Rosie's Mods (RosiesMoons, CozyOffice)

[pseudo thistle]

5 out of around 200 is pretty smalll

[odd sapphire]

Could also trap it in the ||fire exit lock||

[pseudo thistle]

yepp

thats what those are for

not specifically the jester

[odd sapphire]

They’re super cool

[pseudo thistle]

ty!

[odd sapphire]

iirc outside of the two ladder things and the time/day issue on Affliction, there aren’t any notable issues with either map atm, right?

[pseudo thistle]

yep

and an issue that idk how to fix with the monitor & gordion

[odd sapphire]

Yeah

I think it’s due to how the game reads things

Uses the first 3 letters

[pseudo thistle]

I more meant the monitor minimap

people are apparently having issues with switching between people on the monitor

[ebon timber]

did you do something to improve the performance on affliction? it feels a lot better than the last time i tried it

[odd sapphire]

Like when using the switch command? Or the button

[pseudo thistle]

hmm, not that I specifically know of

maybe tweaking fog?

[pseudo thistle]

eithe

either**

[odd sapphire]

Switch command is an LLL issue

Bugged in 1.1.6

[pseudo thistle]

ah got it

maybe its just that idk

[odd sapphire]

It’d be neat if maybe you changed the travel name for gordion to avoid conflict issues?

You could have it be listed as like “Abandoned” so that’s what you type in, but then it says like “Would you like to travel to Gordion Sect-0?”

[pseudo thistle]

Sadly, not sure how to do that with LLL

the string that handles that is both the travel name and the route name

[odd sapphire]

Ah, phooey.

[pseudo thistle]

might change in the future

we'll see

[odd sapphire]

Was thinking maybe they’re different since the list name doesn’t have the numbers but travel name does

[pseudo thistle]

ye, thats just because the list name cuts out the first numbers and dashes before putting the rest of the stuff

^^

[odd sapphire]

Ahhhh

[fierce plover]

Hi RosiePies,

Could you also check the ladder behavior at Gordion Sect-0 outside?

I'm not sure this issue is by conflict with other mod

So please ignore it if it is not reproduced on other players

[sterile flame]

known bug

[fierce plover]

Oh ,there was same report. I got it

Thanks

[simple agate]

Well im getting this messages in the log, when landing on gordion

[pseudo thistle]

Ye also will be fixed

[pale spear]

Is 2 days passing in a single day on Affliction intentional?

[pseudo thistle]

Not intential

Ill fix

[sick rampart]

So I only messed with these a little bit so far but they're pretty nice. I love the flavor text going on with Gordion

[orchid minnow]

played like a few rounds of gordion last night and why was this thumper green is he ill

[pseudo thistle]

xD

very ill

I am getting rid of the custom enemies but the green one is supposed to have more health but less speed

[odd sapphire]

Are you keeping the Queen?

I haven’t encountered the Thumpers yet, but I thought the Queen was cool

[pseudo thistle]

Mhm, only temporarily

I want to figure out how to fully create the enemy first

theres a lot of functionality I want for those enemies

[odd sapphire]

Keeping it temporarily or removing it temporarily

One way you could do would be making it a config setting or something

[pseudo thistle]

Ill be removing it temporarily

not sure how to create a config at the moment

[worldly quarry]

Sad, queen has died

I personally liked it even if it was just a minor tweak, just a surprise to run into a big one

But super excited for when it becomes a fullblown enemy!

[pseudo thistle]

yee totally, I sadly will probably let it rest in the yet to be released area of my code xD

but Ill bring it back and itll be amazing hopefully

[pseudo thistle]

aghh, im trying to figure out prefab stuff

[iron ruin]

Queen? Queen what?

[pseudo thistle]

Xd hoarder queen

[ebon sorrel]

one question could you send me the spawnrate of each enemy in your moons please

?

[pseudo thistle]

pretty sure you can see the default spawn rates in the LLL config, but I can send you a picture

[ebon sorrel]

If you can

[pseudo thistle]

Inside - Spring:55,Jester:15,Nutcracker:50,Masked:30,Blob:80,Girl:25,Flowerman:45,CrawlerGreen:25,CrawlerPurple:10,CrawlerBlue:25
Daytime - Manticoil:55,Docile Locust Bees:45,Blob:15
Outside - MouthDog:35,Spring:35,Flowerman:20,Nutcracker:25,Jester:5,CrawlerGreen:18,CrawlerBlue:17,CrawlerPurple:7

[mossy herald]

is it normal for gordion sect0 to be so fps draining?

[pseudo thistle]

itll be fixed soon hopefully

[mossy herald]

yippee

also i was flabbergasted by the lever in gordion and hoarder queen

amazing features

[pseudo thistle]

tyy

[worldly quarry]

Oh yeah I totally forgot to comment on that when I played recently, but yeah the lever thing is SUPER cool

Discarded/crashed ships too were a great touch since the og release

[pseudo thistle]

yee

[mossy herald]

True

[pseudo thistle]

I realized I could do that and got excited xD

didnt add too much since they are heavy models but ye

[worldly quarry]

Might be a bit of a ligher model if the door was closed by default since you could remove anything inside the ship (though on the other hand, the stuff all crammed inside is super cool)

If the lag is fixed next version it won't matter

[pseudo thistle]

mhm

I removed some stuff in the ships that are inaccessible

[ebon timber]

any chance for an affliction update soon? we've been holding off on going there because of the time bug

[pseudo thistle]

I want to get it out today

Im trying, just trying to figure out how to add items, which seems to be the last issue i have to figure out

[ebon timber]

alright, sounds cool

[ebon sorrel]

Thanks

[neat mauve]

What do I need to type into the terminal to fly to Gordion Sect-0? Tried everything but it just displays this

ok i found the route word to be GordionSect-0

would be neat if the route was just sect0 or smt like that

[pseudo thistle]

Gor/Gord/GordionSect-0

those are routes

[neat mauve]

OK I take my words back

[pseudo thistle]

I was thinking of just changing it to Sector 0 / Sector Zero / the lore name which is Sector Midae

[neat mauve]

Company2 )

[pseudo thistle]

thatd cause issues with routing

[pseudo thistle]

alright thatll be a later update, let me fix some final stuff and itll be up in around an hours time hopefully

[odd sapphire]

pog

[pseudo thistle]

sorry for the wait, they are uploading now

[sterile flame]

how about a more general name like Gordion Restricted Zone?

although sector 0 is still fine

[pseudo thistle]

Anything with gordion in the front seems to cause issues with routing and simulation

for now its Sector-0

in the game

[sterile flame]

oh gotcha

[spark burrow]

When my first and only encounter with the Hoarding Queen before the removal was when the moon was storming and they immediately got struck in front of me lol

[pseudo thistle]

Xd

That’s lucky

[odd sapphire]

lmaooo

[odd sapphire]

Oh that works

[broken hatch]

Hey @pseudo thistle does gordion/sect0 compatible with LQ? Because it seems that it doesn’t register in LQ config

But the deprecated one seems to be registered.

(Not using both at the same time btw, its just that I used the deprecated before and now switching to Sect0)

[ebon timber]

did you fix the time issue? it's not in the changelog

[broken hatch]

Time issue? I don’t think im aware about this

[ebon timber]

for some reason 2 days pass for every day spent on affliction

[broken hatch]

Ouh I thought youre talking about the issue that I’m facing lol

[ebon timber]

nah asking rosie

[pseudo thistle]

Oh no

I forgot

[ebon timber]

forgot what

to fix it or write it in the changelog?

[pseudo thistle]

forgot to fix it

let me send a quick patch

[pseudo thistle]

sadly I dont really know the issue with that

Inside - Spring:55,Jester:15,Nutcracker:50,Masked:30,Blob:80,Girl:25,Flowerman:45,Crawler:60
Daytime - Manticoil:55,Docile Locust Bees:45,Blob:15
Outside - MouthDog:35,Spring:35,Flowerman:20,Nutcracker:25,Jester:5,Crawler:42

These are the spawns if you need them for gordion

[quartz mica]

jesters spawn outside on gordion?

[pseudo thistle]

Very very rarely

[quartz mica]

:)

[pseudo thistle]

its around 3% chance

[quartz mica]

cant wait to use that as my scapegoat for when they ask why it was there after i use cc

[pseudo thistle]

xD

[quartz mica]

tbf tho for somn like gordion, costing 2,000+ credits to get there i'd probably play with them instead

[pseudo thistle]

Its 1,750 now

[quartz mica]

oh thats nice

[pseudo thistle]

changed it after I realized ganimedes is only 1200 xD

I wanted it to be higher but not too high

2250 was a mistake

[quartz mica]

still a lot tho so i'd probably still hold off unless i were dead and bored

[pseudo thistle]

def

its still supposed to be one of the most lategame moons

or atleast im trying to make it so

[quartz mica]

thats why i have purely the office there cause like

imagine going through all these moons just to end up in another facility

the office just feels perfect for the company building tbh

[pseudo thistle]

yepp

Eventually im going to make a custom interior

[quartz mica]

ohh? give me the deets whats gonna be in it

[pseudo thistle]

Since Sector-0/Sector Midae is supposed to be a testing laboratory for the Company's tests, itll probably look somewhat like a mix between the office, scp, and facility interior

[quartz mica]

that'd be neat

mind if i share an idea???

[pseudo thistle]

mhm?

its still very early in idea crafting, so I am open to ideas xD

[quartz mica]

a rare room thats like, whats behind the company counter, that works as sorta a storage room from the facility where theres a lotta loot there

[pseudo thistle]

oo interesting

[ebon timber]

https://fixupx.com/ZeekerssRBLX/status/1765184927052726683

a little sneak peak at what the inside of the company building looks like, if it's any use to you

[pseudo thistle]

interesting

[quartz mica]

quite a stretch to assume this is the company building tbh

[pseudo thistle]

it sorta looks like a house?

[quartz mica]

like sure it's probably lc related but like i dont think it has to do with the company building

[silk nexus]

Make the room really big! Cause the monster is the thing that eats the stuff :P

[bronze echo]

Well there's the tentacle monster under it

[pseudo thistle]

maybe some growling and there to be a large void in one side of the room

[silk nexus]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ yea that sounds sick :P

[pseudo thistle]

yee

[terse isle]

I watched a spec video and they said that it looked more like a Mansion tile (minus the tentacles underneath)

It’s very possible that it’s a new interior entirely

[silk nexus]

You don’t need to be the one to do it though, we’re not extracting promises

[pseudo thistle]

It does look like a mansion tile tbh

[pseudo thistle]

Im still early in development with the interior so its always nice to have ideas to use

[terse isle]

The rug is in the middle of the T-intersection - but if it’s a new interior, that could actually be glass that shows you the tentacles underneath

[odd sapphire]

Made me think of Welcome Home, if you know that ARG

[pseudo thistle]

I sorta know of it

[silk nexus]

Completely unrelated, but I think we need an interior enemy or 2 that relates to sound…

And a really massive interior enemy would be cool too

Like how massive forest giants are

[odd sapphire]

tbf it’s very possible that isn’t a teaser

[terse isle]

Actually, if both it and the grate picture above are LC-related because they’re both colored-in, I wonder if it’s hinting at an underwater-style interior

[pseudo thistle]

ooo like a cruise ship interior almost

[terse isle]

It very well could be! A cruise ship would actually be a wild interior concept to have

[pseudo thistle]

it would def

I was thinking of having my next moon look something like this

[quartz mica]

minecraft generation......

[pseudo thistle]

xD

real

but having it be like inbetween a canyon thats very overgrown

[ebon timber]

it could be something else but i don't think it's exactly a stretch to assume it's the company either

[odd sapphire]

Ooooh

[broken hatch]

No worries, but what’s the name id for sect-0?

[pseudo thistle]

In the newest update itd be Sector-0 OR GordionLevel

idk what LQ uses for that

[broken hatch]

GordionLevel?

Interesting

it actually existed in LQ because of the deprecated version

[pseudo thistle]

yeah

[broken hatch]

I think it somehow uses the old one but it doesn’t work when I tried configuring it

[pseudo thistle]

I dont know exactly why it does that

[broken hatch]

Maybe I’ll need to delete the old config and regenerate a new one instead. I’ll start there I guess

Thanks rosie!

[pseudo thistle]

yee

[pseudo thistle]

Hmm im trying to come up with a name for this new moon im making

[broken hatch]

Perhaps Kepler? 😳

[pseudo thistle]

hmmms

[broken hatch]

Hey @pseudo thistle I did delete the old preset from LQ config and tried relaunching the game again, and it did generate a new one under the name "Sector-0" (previously 71-2 Gordion). So, I think it's worth mentioning that for those who wanted to configure the new update from the deprecated ones, they need to delete the old config as it may not be working.

[pseudo thistle]

ah got it

makes sense

[pseudo thistle]

any other ideas?

[quartz mica]

Strath sounds cool, it apparently means a mountain valley which is kinda what the image is

i just looked up valley synonyms

[sterile flame]

since assessment/affliction was inspired by experimentation's naming convention, should this one have a similar name to vow and march?

[pseudo thistle]

was thinking about that

Experiment is well experimenting

Vow is a solemn promise

and March is well marching

marhc makes sense since the main entrance is a bunker

it also has more exits which would be inline for needing to have an escape incase of an attack

Vow im not entirely sure about, not much to explain the 'solemn promise'

[sterile flame]

we don't even know if there's a pattern there

[pseudo thistle]

yep

I personally think all the names have a reason for their name

well Dine definitely does

[sterile flame]

wait what's dine's reason?

[pseudo thistle]

its a mansion map

to dine means to eat

seems related

[sterile flame]

oh?

i found these on the moons of saturn wikipedia

these 3 are numbered in a row

[pseudo thistle]

interesting

thats def something too

[red stone]

Sunder?

[pseudo thistle]

ooo

interesting

[sterile flame]

sunder sounds good

doesn't conflict with anything iirc

[pseudo thistle]

the route would be Sun

dont think anything starts with that

[mortal mauve]

The Moons are they canonically in the solar system or mystery ?

[sterile flame]

someone needs to make a list of all modded moons

[pseudo thistle]

not in our solar system

thistle nebula

unless it contains our solar system I doubt

[mortal mauve]

It's cool you can just say solar system because Sol is the name of our moon.

[red stone]

wait isn't Sol the Sun

[sterile flame]

isn't our moon Luna?

[mortal mauve]

Don't think we're in a nebula just a galatic arm although it wouldn't be observable from the inside

[mortal mauve]

yes darling

[sterile flame]

neat

[pseudo thistle]

Sol is the Sun, our moon and the earth have multiple names

[mortal mauve]

Anyway about the moons mods. I have a lot I'll show you. But I think thunderstore has categories. But that website feels a bit unfinished.

[pseudo thistle]

Luna is one of them though

[sterile flame]

yea

our moon's official name is "The Moon"

i prefer Luna

[red stone]

just, beautiful

[pseudo thistle]

traditionally, moons are greek and planets are roman, atleast in our solar system

other planets, like 22c Kepler are named after the astronomer iirc

[pseudo thistle]

I think atleast

[pseudo thistle]

Except uranus, if it fit the rules itd be named caelus

[sterile flame]

imagine the outrage if it got renamed tho

[pseudo thistle]

fr

[sterile flame]

it's probably too late to rename in a post internet world 😔

[mortal mauve]

This is all moons which are version 1.0 or later ("released") and without any immersion breaking moons such as Peaches Castle. The Disabled moons rely on Lethal Expansion while the enabled ones rely on Lethal Level Loader. For now these shouldn't be mixed. Beneath that but not shown I have all fully released immersive the interiors which are all LLL reliant. Note being released doesn't mean they're run well, are very good compatability, or otherwise stable.

[pseudo thistle]

thats quite a bit of them

ik there is more too

[mortal mauve]

If anyone knows more I'd like to add them. There are many more unfinished or comedic.

[sterile flame]

oh thx

[pseudo thistle]

itll be quite difficult to come up with non conflicting names when there are only a multitude of 3 letter combinations that make sense phonologically

[sterile flame]

i also found this in #1194042915840872548 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194042915840872548/1216060888658870383/image.png?ex=65ff03f5&is=65ec8ef5&hm=9b2bdc046ddc91a98f80ee88164a02439e12c0f37f1a9d5e722d618443d0ab82&

in this convo they were talking about making all moons have a different number for immersion sake

i believe affliction and gordion are safe for that

[pseudo thistle]

yep

no 59

[mortal mauve]

This could be useful because my list doesn't show "code" names.

[pseudo thistle]

and gordion goes with base gordion's number so its safe anyway

[mortal mauve]

I used terminal conflict to help with overlapping names of stuff but it fails sometimes frankly. And it shouldn't be required to enjoy the game.

[sterile flame]

true

[mortal mauve]

Conspicuously absent from my list by the way is the Tolian moons pack 1.3.9 version which is 5 high quality moons but these are all sub version 1.0 so I've assumed the actual content isn't considered "ready".

[sterile flame]

iirc the only one that isn't ready is maritopia which is getting a rework

the others are just getting occasional minor bug fixes

[young stirrup]

maybe in the future I'll redo some of the textures on Celestia moon😉

[sterile flame]

👀

[pseudo thistle]

how are the moons holding up, any bugs?

[odd sapphire]

I mean Affliction is infested with them

i'm sorry i couldn't resist

[pseudo thistle]

😭😭

Yes

Well atleast there is no bugs so far of the non-hoarding variety

[haughty forge]

@pseudo thistle how did you change the stats of enemies? i'm trying to make an enemy smaller inside but it causes desync when i try to do it

[pseudo thistle]

Hm

I changed the prefab is all

Made the prefab smaller

[polar atlas]

the main thing I deal with is just fps drops on gordion sect moon, cant seem to raise it above 45 fps meanwhile all vanilla moons are 90+ fps

I guess its like that for any custom moon in general

[haughty forge]

you changed the prefab for the enemy spawn in the moon spawns? or did you place a prefab and modify it?

[pseudo thistle]

You can modify it once placed, but i copied the prefab of the enemyand modified it

[pseudo thistle]

Hmm

Tbh ive been noticing that too

Not entirely sure whats causing it

Any errors?

In the logs

[polar atlas]

I didn't see any errors in the logs unfortunately

[pseudo thistle]

No problemm

[haughty forge]

so you copied the prefab, modified it, then just placed it?

[pseudo thistle]

Yepp

[haughty forge]

dang. can't do that for vent spawned enemies because it desyncs. i'll try and find another solution i suppose

[pseudo thistle]

Ohh if you want to spawn things that way then it’s a bit different

[pseudo thistle]

Alright, the new moon will be called 127-Eve

Now I just need to figure out how to create it xD

[ebon timber]

step 1. choose a name ✅
step 2. do everything else

[pseudo thistle]

fr

step 2 is difficult

step 1 was hard too xd

[pseudo thistle]

127-Eve Teaser

[sterile flame]

looking good 👍

where would this moon place difficulty wise?

[pseudo thistle]

costing around 110 and itll be better than march but moderately less than rend

Rank: B

[pseudo thistle]

Alright the moon is out

xD

Apparently step 2 was easier

[bronze echo]

You're cooking

Got any other screenshots?

[pseudo thistle]

Not yet

I was in a rush

[civic lark]

Oh cool someone figured out you could do pseudo custom enemies before me. What kinds of things have you figured out from messing with that? Currently I've only been able to tweak size, texture/color, speed, and scan name.

[pseudo thistle]

You can change health too

Depending on the enemy you can do certain stuff

Thats about it for me

Ah you can play around with the bones for the enemy too

[civic lark]

Interesting, thanks

[fluid brook]

ROSIE

Please tell Masa that Eve is based on Vow/March assets 🥺

[pseudo thistle]

?

[fluid brook]

Been waiting for a while to see a moon that is basically a third variant of March/Vow basically, but at the same time it's been the idea for Masa's first moon project to begin with coding/modding on LC, lol. Was curious if you took away Masa's burden of the fact the forest moons only have 2 variants while the arid & snow moons have 3

[pseudo thistle]

Ah, yeah Eve is very similar to March and Vow

[obtuse roost]

Eve?

[obtuse roost]

Oh

[pseudo thistle]

Ye, my new moon i uploaded this morning

[obtuse roost]

This looks pretty similar to my moon 🤯

[pseudo thistle]

Rosie's Moons (59-Affliction, Gordion Sect-0, 127-Eve)

[pseudo thistle]

Woawow

[fluid brook]

:0 LETS GO (Masa was gonna download it regardless btw, absolutely adore Affliction and Sect-0)

[pseudo thistle]

Its not necessarily a forest moon though

[pseudo thistle]

Ty!

[fluid brook]

Saw that you had a river in it, so that was mainly Masa's inspiration to ask if Masa's burden was free LOL

[pseudo thistle]

Oo fun

Got it

[fluid brook]

||Do you have a custom mob in this moon? Masa found it amazing to encounter a bigger hoarding bug in Affliction||

[warped agate]

it looks good. I did run into a couple collider issue. On a rock near spawn and a house a little further downstream.

[obtuse roost]

Houses?!

In lethal!!

🤯

[warped agate]

idk if they are specifically houses

[fluid brook]

Not just any house

Our house, in the middle of our street

[obtuse roost]

https://tenor.com/view/madness-our-house-ska-mod-new-wave-gif-16193241

[young stirrup]

looks interesting

[sterile flame]

the ship height is too high for a jump, so two handed items can't be brought inside

[obtuse roost]

Huh oh looks like you’ll have to move everything up a notch

I hate how you can’t move the ship itself

[bronze echo]

I'm not sure how I feel about that text in Sector 0

it kinda feels out of place IMO, maybe a sign or no text would fit better than an holographic text

Apart from that I think it's your best moon and I really like the door system and the visuals of the moon

[sick rampart]

Or mayve have the text looked like it was painted onto the wall while being all cracked and faded

[bronze echo]

Yeah that could work too

[pseudo thistle]

Got it

Fairr

I wasnt sure abput the text either tbh

Ill see what i can do if not just remove it

[pseudo thistle]

Not thatt hard to do

[obtuse roost]

Rotating the ship tho… forget it

[pseudo thistle]

Fair

I just select all and make sure the reverb triggers and ship are not selected

[haughty forge]

oh, do you know how?

[sick rampart]

This was the sort of thing I had in mind since the environment of Sector-0 reminds me of the old portal facilities

[pseudo thistle]

Yee

Good idea

I have ideas to make that work

[haughty forge]

the smallest image ever made

[pseudo thistle]

Shows up fine on mobile xd

[sick rampart]

Yeah this was the only example that showed enough of what I was talking about and of course it looked like it was screenshotted off of the 360 lol

[pseudo thistle]

Youd need to copy both the prefab for the enemy and an enemytype and then have them reference eachother

Then you can reference the custom enemytype to spawn

[pseudo thistle]

All the mods have been uploaded, itll take a bit for them to actually update in the app fully though

[modest lichen]

Getting crashes when trying to load EVE

[jagged terrace]

also getting crashes with eve. seems to work in sp, though

[modest lichen]

Well I'm launching alone so 😅

[wicked rivet]

@pseudo thistle Gordion and affliction are some of the best modded moons ive played! really like the vanilla feel of them, one question tho, any plans to update the footstep sounds? currently its like walking on plastic on all the planets...

[fluid brook]

Unity crash ;w;

[fluid brook]

Was getting the same issues yeah

[odd sapphire]

so uh

this water isn't water

[pseudo thistle]

oops, I forgot to readd some tags

[pseudo thistle]

Where is that btw?

[pseudo thistle]

Rocks missing collision?

[odd sapphire]

Yep, right where the drop ship lands

[odd sapphire]

||In the cave||

[pseudo thistle]

hm, I swear I added water triggers everywhere

ill see what i can do

[odd sapphire]

Moon looks awesome though!

[pseudo thistle]

ty!

[pseudo thistle]

weird, I cant find it

[pseudo thistle]

not sure why it is crashing hm

[pseudo thistle]

I think its because water fluctuates and the water material was higher than the water trigger

[odd sapphire]

Ahhh

[pseudo thistle]

Question, how do you like the new sign on Sect-0?

[wicked rivet]

Beautiful

[pseudo thistle]

Thanksss

I hadto custom make a texture and use it as a decal xd

[bronze echo]

Yeah it's way better, really like the change !

[iron ruin]

@pseudo thistle do you plan to add compatibility with sfdesats mod celestial tint?

i also have 2 bugs to report one is just a visual preference

first this staircase has to be jumped https://outplayed.tv/media/gxbwyL

the other is that the main entrance doors on eve are bigger then the standard lc doors

[modest lichen]

Btw just letting you know it's raining inside the cave, maybe there's a way to make it so like on Experimentation the cave part is like "an interior" and there's no rain?

[pseudo thistle]

Odd i thought i disabled that

Ill fix it

[clever lark]

I really like the new map Gordion but it seems to be a real hit on my fps

[pseudo thistle]

Maybe the water

[modest lichen]

Speaking of water, I'm not sure if Gordion can get flooded?

[pseudo thistle]

Flooded weather doesnt work?

[pseudo thistle]

Tbh thats intended mostly to match with the catwalk its on

I can make it the original size to see the difference

[clever lark]

Interesting, hopefully something can be done about that, this seems like a moon that I would add to my main modpack. Feels like a moon that would fit in the vanilla game

[modest lichen]

I didn't stay long enough so I'll have to test again

[pseudo thistle]

npp

[pseudo thistle]

yee agreed

glad you like it too

[tired isle]

Perfect tbh

I was leaning towards preferring no sign, but having it super faded works even better

[pseudo thistle]

tyty

[blazing lantern]

Same was really excited to try the new map to, the other 2 are great!

[whole kettle]

127-Eve are you sure you know how to make a map or not

@pseudo thistle

[pine heath]

wait

does this use a custom interior?

[whole kettle]

no it look like someone that doesn't how to use unity editor to make a map.

[bronze echo]

why you so agressive about it though

[whole kettle]

cause she doesn't test her map before upload it

1st try two collision problem on the map

that good tho

[pseudo thistle]

1. I was in a rush while making it
2. I was half asleep while making it

Whats the issue?

[whole kettle]

collision problem

[pseudo thistle]

Rock collisions? Since thatll be fixed

[whole kettle]

and what about getting throught the map

and die because i no clip throught the texture

[pseudo thistle]

Where?

I cant fix the issue if I dont know where it happens

[whole kettle]

in the cavern

[odd plover]

how do i prevent crashes when loading the planet??

(eve to be specific)

[pseudo thistle]

thats an issue that will be fixed next update

apparently I broke some terrain settings and it caused crashes

[odd plover]

oh ok

[odd sapphire]

I explored all over the cavern and didn’t notice this— you might have to point out the specific spot

[whole kettle]

it was on a rock inside the cavern that i go throught it

[pseudo thistle]

okay, then all the rocks are fixed, right now im trying to figure out weather issues

the update will be soon

[pseudo thistle]

Alright the updates have been posted, the rocks and sounds are fixed aswell as some other issues ive seen from my own testing

[pseudo thistle]

oops I forgot about this, Ill put a hotfix up

[whole kettle]

🤣

[haughty forge]

playing a moon roulette, first moon i land on after updating it is gordion sect-0 with a hazard of S++

[quartz mica]

equivalent of goings straight to ganon in botw/totk

[pseudo thistle]

Xd

[lethal quest]

what the-

[pseudo thistle]

agh heightmaps are weird

Ill fix it eventually xD

[pseudo thistle]

youll probably be able to see the same issue in the fire exit rooms if you are right next to the metal walling

[lethal quest]

ah ok

its trippy but cool

maybe someone could make a hidden passage with that effect

[gloomy oracle]

does anyone know where the affliction entrance is

never figured that out

ive just been killing hoarding bugs to sell

[fluid brook]

Its uhhh, at a building

[modest lichen]

Just wanted to report that the scanning node for the Ship on Eve is still at the original place

[pseudo thistle]

Awh i knew i forgot something

[modest lichen]

No worries!

[south furnace]

Current problem. Host and one player sees Eve on the moon screen, while the rest of the lobby sees Sector-0. This seems to be causing a desync in the interior generation.

The desync is also vice-versa. When host routed to Sector-0, Eve showed up for the rest of us, but he and one other player say Sector-0

[pseudo thistle]

So from one side its sector-0 and the other its eve? Or does it land on the same moon but have different interiors

[south furnace]

It lands on what the host saw. But the interiors were desynced.

[pseudo thistle]

odd, I dont know what could cause that issue

[south furnace]

Host rebooted his game and it fixed the issue, but I figured it was worth the mention, since it was only with those two moons.

[pseudo thistle]

got it

ive had interior desync on a couple moons that arent mine

so I wonder if its just a quirk

What are you using to configure the interior/moons? If you are at all

[fluid brook]

Hmm.. something's wrong here

So when Masa's friend was going down on the ladder they uhh... got on the opposite end instead. They couldn't let go of the ladder too, and we lost our 400 credit golden shovel because Masa had to tp them into shi, which in turn, all the items clipped through the wall and couldnt be reached anymore

Going up was fine though. But going down seemed to create that situation.

This was on Eve, at the double ladder area where you go up a ladder, get on roof, jump on slightly higher roof then climb the long ladder up to the top of the cliff

[pseudo thistle]

weird

It was working when I was testing

welp

[fluid brook]

Maybe it works but both sides are available? Didnt test it, just a theory ofc

[pseudo thistle]

maybe, sometimes the ladders just break since I accidently mess with stuff

[fluid brook]

Yuh. Masa's saying that specifically because Masa's friend was able to climb up from the correct side

Just.. not down xD

[pseudo thistle]

yeah

Its also since the ladder is tilted it becomes buggy

Ill probably straighten it to see if that fixes

[fluid brook]

👌

Love the map though, glad its finally available!

(We ran through the map and then ran out once we touched the interior for 0.1 second because Herobrine appeared)

(Herobrine is a 1% chance to spawn for us)

[pseudo thistle]

ye, im ready to start making the interior for Sect-0 for the next batch update for the moons

right now im configuring my modpack xd

I also have herobrine in it

its very "fun" trying to configure everything

[fluid brook]

OH SHIT, You're making custom interiors now? :o

[fluid brook]

Ughh.. yeah so much work @.@

[pseudo thistle]

yeppp was the plan for a bit ago but I think im ready now after that third moon !

[fluid brook]

So inspiring <3

[pseudo thistle]

tyty

[fluid brook]

Actually, since you are making a Sector-0 interior, Masa just got a suggestion in mind.

Since the Company is pretty much the same area, what if there is a way to find a secret small interior within the company to try and get extra scrap from if youre too low as a last resort? It could be pretty interesting 👀

[pseudo thistle]

ah it would, but im not sure how to overwrite vanilla moons if it is even possible

Once and if I figure it out itd be a fun idea thoughh

[haughty forge]

probably not possible, and maybe questionable, because you might technically be including the entire vanilla moon files

[pseudo thistle]

yeahh

although I feel like it may be loosely possible

loosely as in causing many compatibility issues xd

Alrighty time to get started on this interior xD

After some water and a tiny break pfft

[red stone]

not sure but maybe you wont need to overwrite? try checking https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1206843955115982879, it's able to put interactable objects in the company

[pseudo thistle]

Ive seen that ye

[whole kettle]

[Error : Unity Log] Scene 'GordionLevel' couldn't be loaded because it has not been added to the build settings scenes in build list.

[pseudo thistle]

does it happen consistently? Like everytime you go to the moon?

[whole kettle]

yeah

[pseudo thistle]

agh, genuinely no idea

[pseudo thistle]

Just quickly asking, does the moon work for you? Since this msg seems like it does but im not entirely sure.

[haughty forge]

it seemed to work

[pseudo thistle]

odd

[haughty forge]

there was a hygrodere outside n stuff

[pseudo thistle]

Yeah

This Scene error is so confusing

It prevents people from landing on the moon

There could be an issue with a duplicate bundle?

If they have both the mod with all the moons and just the gordion moon

doubt it though

[modest lichen]

Are roaming bees normal on Eve ?

I'm wondering if their hive spawned in the water or something 'cause they've been roaming around the map even though I didn't touch any hive

Also there seems to be an issue with Affliction as the ship doesn't seem to want to land:

[broken hatch]

howd you get that compass at the top of your visor there?

Looks cool

[modest lichen]

Thanks! I'm using "Solos Ring Compass TWEAKED" By HectorAlligator: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/HectorAlligator/Solos_Ring_Compass_TWEAKED/

[broken hatch]

wew.. might wanna try that out

although, it might be incompatible with immersivevisor

in terms of it's alignment.

[modest lichen]

Hm, possibly, I actually meant to try ImmersiveVisor as I was wondering if I should add it to the ModPack I'm making or not 🤔

I'll give it a little test for you if you want

[broken hatch]

sure!

The latest version of immersivevisor is quite stable now with the rain effects but you can roll back to the previous version where the rain effects arent introduced yet if you want more stable

[modest lichen]

Seems to be working fine so far

[broken hatch]

Sick af!

and that was quick lmao

I havent get a chance to install it yet

thanks for testing it tho.. and if you feel like immersive visor is better than the vanilla ones, try using it i highly recommend.

[modest lichen]

You're welcome!
I like it actually! The only small issue I have currently would be that it seems like it disables the "Physical VisorRim" and replaces it with a black mask. The physical one had a neat side effect of having the light being reflected on it depending on where it was shining, which made if feel more like an actual helmet than just a "black bar" kinda sfx applied

[broken hatch]

Yea you need to enable it inside the config file if you want physical visor rim instead. So far the mod maker is still figuring out on implementing that

[modest lichen]

Unfortunately I don't see it 😅

[broken hatch]

I think thats the one

iirc

tbf im not sure what it does exactly nor have tested it

lemme check

im currently downloading the compass now

[modest lichen]

I just tested it and turning it to false just disables the VisorRim entirely (it disables the mesh by default no matter which setting I think)

btw, don't wanna "spam this channel" we can switch to the following appropriate topic as I just asked the author of the mod about it:
#1191113181653905423 message

[broken hatch]

Was tryna say the same thing

lmao

[broken hatch]

ouhh

[modest lichen]

So ye, sorry for deviating from the subject, here's a quick link to the latest message "on topic": #1212942407306313788 message

[whole kettle]

It happened on all of your map

[modest lichen]

I'm able to land on EVE tho

[pseudo thistle]

Agh idk

Must of misplaced a node

So some people are able to land on some moons and others arent

On the same version???

I swear I tested every moon too

I was able to land on Eve yesterday

Let me check the other two

[fluid brook]

Masa was able to as well

All moons work for us

[pseudo thistle]

@modest lichen, @whole kettle, @fluid brook Can you all list the versions you are using & if you are using the singular moons mods or the rosie's moons mod

[fluid brook]

1.0.5
Rosie's Moons

[whole kettle]

Found out the problem it was AC

[pseudo thistle]

Oh, odd

[modest lichen]

I don't have AC

[fluid brook]

Dont have AC

[modest lichen]

same here

[pseudo thistle]

huh

idek tbh

[pseudo thistle]

its not giving you a different error than this right?

[red stone]

i use AC v1.1.18 and all works fine no error

[pseudo thistle]

T-T

Idek how this happened

[red stone]

@pseudo thistle okay i was guilty of using an older version of affliction because i liked the queen, but now i moved to use Rosie's Moons v1.0.5.
Eve and Sector-0 is fine and all, but I also can't land on Affliction.

1) it starts with a short spam of Failed to create agent because it is not close enough to the NavMesh
2) then

ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: data
  at UnityEngine.AI.NavMeshBuilder.UpdateNavMeshDataAsync (UnityEngine.AI.NavMeshData data, UnityEngine.AI.NavMeshBuildSettings buildSettings, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] sources, UnityEngine.Bounds localBounds) [0x0000c] in <adf06e45d93c42328787a65c0eca6390>:IL_000C 
  at Loadstone.Patches.RoundManagerPatches.GenerateNavMeshAsync (Unity.AI.Navigation.NavMeshSurface navMeshSurface, RoundManager roundManager) [0x00082] in <8ba7181bf0b64d9a90b40f03eba5d0d1>:IL_0082 
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::SpawnOutsideHazards>(RoundManager)
  at RoundManager.FinishGeneratingLevel () [0x0002d] in <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_002D 
  at LethalLevelLoader.Patches.OnGenerationStatusChanged_Prefix (RoundManager __instance, DunGen.GenerationStatus status) [0x00029] in G:\Unity\LethalLevelLoader\LethalLevelLoader\General\Patches.cs:317 
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::Generator_OnGenerationStatusChanged>(RoundManager,DunGen.DungeonGenerator,DunGen.GenerationStatus)
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) DunGen.DungeonGenerator.DMD<DunGen.DungeonGenerator::ChangeStatus>(DunGen.DungeonGenerator,DunGen.GenerationStatus)
  at DunGen.DungeonGenerator+<InnerGenerate>d__94.MoveNext () [0x0046b] in <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_046B 
  at UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) [0x00026] in <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026 

(Filename: G:/Unity/LethalLevelLoader/LethalLevelLoader/General/Patches.cs Line: 317)

3) and lastly a spam of both
"SetDestination" can only be called on an active agent that has been placed on a NavMesh.
and
"CalculatePolygonPath" can only be called on an active agent that has been placed on a NavMesh.

looking at #2 Loadstone says its Unity.AI.Navigation.NavMeshSurface navMeshSurface, RoundManager roundManager

[pseudo thistle]

hmm

[sterile flame]

i think something went wrong while formatting this description 😅

[pseudo thistle]

😭😭😭 okay

Maybe one more update beofre i work on the interior

[pseudo thistle]

omfg, I didnt bake the navmesh

Okay, well, an update will be out soon

[civic lark]

Mood

[pseudo thistle]

Its funny because the reason that happened is because of 1 symbol

[pseudo thistle]

alright I updated them

Affliction should be fixed

& I readded the hoarder queen since I dont think it caused any issues

[pseudo thistle]

Gordion interior Teaser :o

[red stone]

another peak

rosie on the grind

@pseudo thistle have you thought of the hazards/difficulty of the interior already?

[pseudo thistle]

Sorta, what do you mean?

[red stone]

like falls, mazes, smokes, etc

[pseudo thistle]

ah, yeah havent got those yet

If you have a suggestion xd

[red stone]

something that wont make it too easy, because MoreInteriors and SCPDungeon dont have stuff like fall

[red stone]

what's the general theme or what are some tags, maybe even lore, just some info to base off from so we users can suggest with a direction

[pseudo thistle]

Fairr

[red stone]

im not really deep into LC lore so i barely know much about the company

since gordion is or was(?) once the company

[pseudo thistle]

Okay, well there will be 3 themes, Warehouse, Office, and Laboratory. And Sector-0 used to be a testing grounds for creating biological weapons and working with gene splicing.

The warehouse areas will be similar to LCOffice sorta, the office space will be unique imo, and laboratory might look a bit like SCP

It starts in the warehouse area

[sterile flame]

wow that's a lot

[pseudo thistle]

^ Yep

[red stone]

any images you can share like similar

[ebon sorrel]

This interior Will be available also for other moons?

[red stone]

ofc

i think dungeons are built like that

or is it possible to make it tied with the moon?

oh wait maybe it is since wesley does?

[pseudo thistle]

Itll be tied to the moon but probably configurable

[red stone]

OHHH

i have a cool idea

since its where biological weapons (creatures?) (went rampart?), maybe add some rooms that have a hole in their floor?

[pseudo thistle]

ooo

[red stone]

i havent seen this one yet with current interiors like, obviously destroyed by a creature

like ripped apart

[pseudo thistle]

ye

I could make a couple things for stuff like that

[ebon sorrel]

At what point are you in developement

?

[pseudo thistle]

very early

[red stone]

prolly just started

ah

[pseudo thistle]

^

[ebon sorrel]

Ok ahah

[pseudo thistle]

I started yesterday

[ebon sorrel]

No probl

[pseudo thistle]

Thats just the entrance room

[ebon sorrel]

It already look fire

[red stone]

an idea for the horror design maybe is something like from alien isolation, like some sort of nest or growth

maybe in the lab or somewhere logical for them to nest in

[pseudo thistle]

ye, good inspiration for the laboratory areas I think

ye

[red stone]

oh it would be good for the apparatus room too maybe

[ebon sorrel]

It looks like a factory

The First room

[sterile flame]

are you going for an infested or an abandoned theme?

or both?

[red stone]

another hazard could be falling boxes (so something similar to being killed by a falling ladder) in the warehouse, though this would be a custom hazard so don't think much about this unless you know how to do it. Dantor may be able to help you as their Mental Hospital dungeon has this moving hooks that can knock you off as hazards.

smokes you can definitely implement because your interior has pipes and is similar to the factory

for the maze room theme, can't really think of something except for heavily infested/growth
i think i went too much with alien theme

[red stone]

pipe rooms similar to factory too maybe judging from this

[red stone]

another hazard idea could be lethal doors (since you have switch controlled doors outside gordion), maybe you can add faulty doors that open and close repeatedly that kills on closing contact

similar to that one lethal ship door mod

[pseudo thistle]

interestingg

[odd sapphire]

yoooo

[odd sapphire]

These ones specifically

[pseudo thistle]

Ye I eventually found the collision issue aswell as the water issue

[odd sapphire]

Rad

[clever lark]

Btw unlike Gordion, Eve runs pretty well on my machine

And it has earned a spot on my modpack

[pseudo thistle]

Gordion is still laggy?

[clever lark]

Not laggy, fps drop

[pseudo thistle]

Ye that is what i meant sry

[clever lark]

Inside the ship it drops at best 60 fps at worst 40

Outside drops to 70 and 60

which would be fine

If it were not for the fact that it is without any weather effects or monsters spawning

[pseudo thistle]

Yeah i understand

[clever lark]

Then again, it is not your fault most likely, because I have a decently big modpack with 96 mods

[pseudo thistle]

Question

[clever lark]

yes?

[pseudo thistle]

Compared to sector 0 gordion, how laggy is the company building

[clever lark]

Let me test, I have not taken that in mind

[pseudo thistle]

Yeah, im just wondering if it could be height maps

Since that would be an easy fix

[clever lark]

While at it, what are the stats of Sector 0?

Like spawn weights, size, etc

I am specially curious about power level

Ok so I am on the planet and the fps seems to be better, as to why? I am not sure

It is currently 60-68

I expect it to drop soon once mobs start to spawn

Ok so here is the comparison

Sector 0 is consitently between 55 and 60 inside the ship, outside its 70 to 90. As for outside its 70 to 90 give or take. (Obviously it will go even lower once creatures spawn)

Gordion at first seems similar to Sector 0 but after a couple seconds the fps stabelize and stick to a consistent 69 to 75. As for ouside ez 100 to 115 fps.

On other modded moons I do not get these fps drops, actually, I would even say some are better than vanilla

[pseudo thistle]

odd

ty for the stats

[red stone]

the fogginess inside sector 0 is also still present

i'll try someone get a video or maybe a clip when possible

[solemn plinth]

@pseudo thistle

Do you have your interior weights for Facility and Mansion listed anywhere? I used Simulate on LLL to get most of the values. However, I am missing some for Shattered Company's generation sheet as some would not reveal themselves.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fmx6bCUXNcNZoq1NoyNLNFAHlbpo55fHy1gVilsUNhM/edit?usp=sharing

[pseudo thistle]

fac300 mans15 iirc

[solemn plinth]

for all maps?

[pseudo thistle]

yeah, as a roough estimate

[solemn plinth]

tyvm

[pseudo thistle]

gordion will have a custom int soon though

[solemn plinth]

If you have time when working on them later, could you let me know what they are exactly if you are unsure for any of them.

[solemn plinth]

Ohhhhh I am excited.

If you set it up as a dungeon flow with "list" spawn customization I will make sure to add it to a lot of the facility/dead civilisation map types. 😄

[ebon timber]

you can set LLL to show the weight values and use the simulate command to check

[solemn plinth]

I have it set up to do that, for some reason, some moons would default to the percentage system instead. All the other moons showed values.

[red stone]

this was on a clear weather, but it's all the same for any weather

does anybody else have this experience? not sure if it's just my modpack

[pseudo thistle]

Ive had it

Idrk how to fix it

There isn’t a local fog in the dungeon area

[red stone]

welp, ig it's an added difficulty to the moon itself

[red stone]

@lethal pulsar is this the same behavior as that of what you experienced with Maritopia?

[lethal pulsar]

yeah

[fresh venture]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/21PSivCv7bTeoU/d13377VPmZVM?invite=cr-MSxGdVcsMjE3NTIwOTU1LA

[haughty forge]

they kinda just do that

[worldly quarry]

Yeah I've seen that on most modded moons, manticoils LOVE to go silly mode

[broken hatch]

Thicc queen

[bronze echo]

Do you think you could smooth out the terrain? It is the only thing I don't like about affliction and it's that the terrain is too steep everywhere

even the ground elevations are a bit steep

idk if you get what I'm saying

[pseudo thistle]

Yeah ill take a look

[pseudo thistle]

Its just like navigation thats the issue? The steep terrain limits the player right?

[bronze echo]

Well I was more talking about the look of it but yeah it also impacts navigation

[pseudo thistle]

ah, the furthest ill go is fix the navigation since steep looking terrain is sorta the point

the moon thats in the sky is literally ripping the planet apart basically

making parts of the terrain more steep and stuff

[pseudo thistle]

Figured it out, its the global fog but I cant really do anything about that. It also works well with the custom interior im making so thats good

[terse isle]

oooooooooo

[red stone]

now that's a real hazard

[terse isle]

I like that it looks like a remixed version of the default facility using Gordion assets as well

[fluid brook]

||100% using it for Desolation if the red fog is gonna be reoccuring||

[pseudo thistle]

ye

[pseudo thistle]

It will, in the entry room it has fog above

[fluid brook]

Lets gooooo

[hybrid fern]

Lmao I've seen this happen on Vow too they just bug out in general sometimes

[pseudo thistle]

manticoils are odd little creatures xd

[hybrid fern]

Yeah they are XD

[hushed aspen]

Hello! I've got an error happening with this mod.
Is this the right place to ask or should I head to the support forum instead?

[pseudo thistle]

This is the right place, whats the issue?

[hushed aspen]

I'm using the full "Rosies_Moons" modpack. When trying to land on 59-Affliction, my game is stuck at "Waiting for Ship to Land", doesn't even start loading the moon. When checking the command line it shows:
[Error : Unity Log] Scene 'AfflictionLevel' couldn't be loaded because it has not been added to the build settings scenes in build list.

Other modded moons seem to work fine.

I think this started happening after I added this batch of mods to my profile:
CSync, Arachnophilia, MelsEnemyPack, Crest, Outpost31

List of things I tried:

• Starting a new save
• Launching a different moon first before visiting 59-Affliction
• Removing the aforementioned mods and cleaning mod cache
• Reinstalling Rosies_Moons

Profile Code: 018e6217-1331-91c7-3ab3-a447e3d1099a

I would very much appreciate your help 🙇

[pseudo thistle]

Aghb not entirely sure

Thats one of the bugs thats got me very confused

People tend to have the issue and then not sometimes

Its very localized for some reason

@buoyant karma

They might be able to help ^

[buoyant karma]

Rosie have you tested Affliction recently?

[pseudo thistle]

I have

Like i said it happens for some and not for others 🤷‍♀️

Have no idea what the issue may be

[hushed aspen]

Strange. This didn't happen before and Affliction was working fine

[buoyant karma]

Hm. I think that error is usually a problem on the creator's end

[pseudo thistle]

Unless i messed up the upload

[buoyant karma]

Try downloading the live version and testing it

[hushed aspen]

I'm using the up-to-date version in my profile, if that's what you mean?

[pseudo thistle]

Yeah

[pseudo thistle]

I will have to when i get home

[hollow badger]

Hello, can i quickly ask what string I use to set interiors for Sect0?

[pseudo thistle]

Uhhh sect-0 maybe

Unless interiors use scene names, then use GordionLevel

[hollow badger]

I think they work with whatever you type into the terminal

[pseudo thistle]

Alright

Then Sect0

[hollow badger]

Great, thanks!

[hushed aspen]

Update: I've just tested out if the mod works on its own... and it does!
So whatever it is, it must be some kind of compatibility issue, as creating a new profile with the code I sent before results in the same problem.

No idea what could be causing this error to occur though, as mentioned it used to work fine previously with this exact profile

[odd sapphire]

Might have something to do with load order

[worldly quarry]

Sector-0 was what worked for me by the way

Tried Sector0 and it didn't work, didn't try Sect0

[hollow badger]

I'm just worried about including the 0

from the LLL description I think Sect will work

[worldly quarry]

try Sect0 since I didn't try that yet, I did all my work through just the LLL config and Sector-0 was what worked

[hushed aspen]

Oh? How do you do that in R2Modman? I was under the impression there's no way to change it

[red stone]

isn't load order based on the names

[pseudo thistle]

See im not sure

The bug is random almost

Ill explain when i can

[odd sapphire]

You can’t change it yourself

[pseudo thistle]

alright so in Unity testing with the moon, I usually am able to go to it once and then it bugs out with that error, but most of the time it doesnt do that when testing, but apparently people have been having issues and idrk why so

[hushed aspen]

Damn...
So it's either re-assembling the profile from scratch, or waiting for the bug to fix itself if that don't work...

...or not play with this package, which isn't ideal :(

[sterile flame]

the outside blobs on sect 0 rly makes you use some odd strategies 😅

[pseudo thistle]

xD

[sterile flame]

somehow the blobs on this moon are more oppressive than the coilheads

at least coils can't get to u inside the ship

[quiet whale]

does this moon not allow modded scrap to spawn ?

[pseudo thistle]

Welpp

Thats an issue

[quiet whale]

127-Eve Large axle:94,V-type engine:80,Plastic fish:28,Metal sheet:83,Big bolt:89,Toy cube:18,Laser pointer:3,Bottles:67,Remote:16,Cookie mold pan:13,Toy robot:2,Magnifying glass:4,Stop sign:29,Tea kettle:24,Gold bar:4,Cash register:3,Clown horn:43,Airhorn:34,Candy:3,Red soda:2,Yield sign:8,Gift:24,Flask:42

Experimentation: Large axle:80,V-type engine:90,Plastic fish:12,Metal sheet:88,Laser pointer:4,Big bolt:80,Bottles:19,Ring:3,Steering wheel:32,Cookie mold pan:5,Egg beater:10,Jar of pickles:10,Dust pan:32,Airhorn:3,Clown horn:3,Cash register:3,Candy:2,Gold bar:1,Yield sign:6,Homemade flashbang:22,Gift:17,Flask:42,Old Book:6,Xiaomi:10,Wooden Chair:12,Cone:35,Magnet:35,Wooden Crate:35,Wooden Table:10,Armor:13,Car Key:7,Axe:13,Game Boy:10,Mario Glove:10,Marios Hat:10,Mario Painting:10,Marios Shoe:10,Marios Star:10,Poison Mushroom:10,Poltergust 3000:10,Redstone Torch:5,Cirno Fumo:30,Arson Plush:5,Cookie Fumo:1,Toimari Plush:4,Hamis Plush:0,Dirty Arson Plush:0,Maxwell:2,Glizzy:100,Revolver:10,Gremlin Can:6,Toy Hammer:10,Gnarpy Plush:3,Boink:12,Cup Noodle:8,Freddy Fast Bear?:7,Nokia 3310:15,Moai:8,Froggy Chair:18,Eevee Plush:13,Death Note:3,Uno Reverse Card:5,Weezer Guitar:6,Cat:13

taken out of LLL config

[pseudo thistle]

Got it

Hmm

Do other modded moons work

I assume so i am just checking though

[quiet whale]

let me check

im trying to see if it works on a single moon ?

i dont think it works on any LLL moon

wtf

@alpine halo why dont custom scrap work on modded moons in LLL

[pseudo thistle]

Scrap is registered per moon not moon per scrap is all i believe

For LLL at least

[quiet whale]

actually i think the issue is becaue i have both of these

well even with LLL uninstalled and just fixed it didnt work

[pseudo thistle]

I think this is the case then tbh

[quiet whale]

well even with just fixed version + config reset

it dont add modded scrap on any moons

[pseudo thistle]

Is fixed suppose to do anything with the scrap loading?

[quiet whale]

no

but i had two of the same mods

so i thought it could cause issues

one is a fork with fiixing of falling through the floor and some other things

[pseudo thistle]

Got it

Well, yeah i think its just the way that LLL does things

Maybe itll change in the future since it’s still in development but idk

[quiet whale]

i guess i have to do it manually

add scrap to the pool for all maps

[pseudo thistle]

Mhm

Suggestion to use LQ because LLL configs are a bit buggy sometimes in this current version

[quiet whale]

LQ ?

[pseudo thistle]

Lethal quantities

And iirc you can put global scrap weight values in LQ

[quiet whale]

hmm okay

[pseudo thistle]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1213985212686532638

Just a suggestion ✅

[quiet whale]

people say in there that LLL overrides it anyways

so it seems pointless atm

[pseudo thistle]

LLL overrides if the setting to override is turned on

[quiet whale]

he said he had it set to off

the setting per moon

[pseudo thistle]

Yeah

[quiet whale]

can i set moon prices in LQ ?

since thats important for my group

[pseudo thistle]

Yep

[quiet whale]

ok

i will try it

[pseudo thistle]

Theres also a web browser you can customize settings in

[quiet whale]

i have used this mod months ago

in a way earlier state

[pseudo thistle]

Yeah

[quiet whale]

oh sick

[pseudo thistle]

Its a lot better now imo

[quiet whale]

how do i use the web browser ?

[pseudo thistle]

When you load into the game itll give you a config file named presets.json and then you drag and drop it into the website and you can configure stuff

[quiet whale]

also is the spawn logic vanilla or does it follow what the moons have set

like LLL does

i see

[pseudo thistle]

Itll let you customize spawn curves (LLL does not) and the weights of enemies (same as vanilla/LLL)

[quiet whale]

yeah im asking if it follows the logic the moon creator set

by default

[pseudo thistle]

Ah yeah

It does

[quiet whale]

perfect

[pseudo thistle]

Itll memorize most original values

[quiet whale]

its not telling me what scrap spawns on the moon

[pseudo thistle]

Click the check mark first

[quiet whale]

nvm

im dumb

yeah

i just noticed ty

[pseudo thistle]

Ye

[quiet whale]

woah thats sick

this is so much nicer workflow

[pseudo thistle]

It def is

[quiet whale]

well still

its not spawning modded scrap ?

wait it is

i lied

[pseudo thistle]

Oop xd

[quiet whale]

im not sure why i dont see it on the list

only in the category thing

[pseudo thistle]

Not sure

Ohh

[quiet whale]

wait no

that means i can add it to the list myself

its not spawning it

its the same scenario

[pseudo thistle]

Maybe look in global settings since most item spawning mods use global spawns instead

[quiet whale]

how do i do that ?

[pseudo thistle]

There should be a spot called Global in the moon list area off to the left

[quiet whale]

oh

at the bottom

im blind

[pseudo thistle]

Yeah

[quiet whale]

well

that seems weird

its all empty

[pseudo thistle]

Well idrk then

[quiet whale]

let me try and see if it spawns on eve now

just to test

[pseudo thistle]

Okay

[quiet whale]

but i have a feeling i need to do it manually in both mods

[pseudo thistle]

If you have Eve customization on in LLL then itll want the LLL configs

[quiet whale]

i deleted LLL config

so its back to default

[pseudo thistle]

Got it

[civic lark]

I'm positive I've gotten at least 1 specific modded scrap on LLL Moons, and I don't recall specifically configuring it. Redstone Torch on Bozoros (hi matt) when it first came out

[quiet whale]

didnt work

[quiet whale]

might be included in the maps file

for scrap that can spawn

[civic lark]

I mean that'd be super weird since they're completely unrelated mods

As far as I know the scrap pool for that moon consists of silly clownish items

[quiet whale]

this is a setting

in LQ

[pseudo thistle]

Pretty sure that might just be because the Herobrine mod ensures redstone torches spawn on all maps equally i think

[quiet whale]

the global tab is all set to disabled

by default

[civic lark]

Gotcha, so it’s a bit of a scrap mod issue at that point

[pseudo thistle]

Those configs change when you change the preset json

[pseudo thistle]

Tbh im not entirely sure

[quiet whale]

ah

[civic lark]

Hopefully Batby's LL to LLL integration stuff makes things better in the future, but idk if there's much moon devs specifically can do for this

[pseudo thistle]

Yeah

[quiet whale]

yeah its not the moon devs fault i was just clueless about it

[civic lark]

Btw Rosie were all your enemy subspecies placed down as prefabs on the moon scene?

[pseudo thistle]

The hoarding queen is a prefab enemy

[quiet whale]

hoarding queen huh

[pseudo thistle]

The other ones that i removed were prefab enemies that were referenced in copied enemy types and then referenced in the enemy spawns

[pseudo thistle]

Affliction easter egg enemy

Xd

[quiet whale]

yeah ima just configure LLL to my liking

[pseudo thistle]

Fairr

[quiet whale]

im having some issues with LQ that i cant be bothered with

lol

[pseudo thistle]

Np

[quiet whale]

ty though

[pseudo thistle]

Whatever works

Yw

[civic lark]

Double check to make sure the thumpers and such don't have desync. From what I've gathered from other moons using Subspecies, placed prefabs are safe but referenced enemies that spawn naturally get desynced

[pseudo thistle]

Yeahh thats a reason i removed them for the time being

[civic lark]

Oh they're gone, alright then

[pseudo thistle]

Plus i want to make them into actual enemies using LL code

[civic lark]

Gotcha sounds good, just checking in because you were the only one left I didn't talk to

[pseudo thistle]

Npp

[civic lark]

There does seem to be an enemy skinner mod in the works, though the fun stat changes don't seem to be supported yet - just the models/textures/sounds and stuff like that

[pseudo thistle]

Interestingg

[quiet whale]

im not sure if its working now even with custom scrap set

i have to reload a few times and see if it eventually picks something else

yeah its just spawning vanilla scrap

even though i put Large axle:94,V-type engine:80,Plastic fish:28,Metal sheet:83,Big bolt:89,Toy cube:18,Laser pointer:3,Bottles:67,Remote:16,Cookie mold pan:13,Toy robot:2,Magnifying glass:4,Stop sign:29,Tea kettle:24,Gold bar:4,Cash register:3,Clown horn:43,Airhorn:34,Candy:3,Red soda:2,Yield sign:8,Gift:24,Flask:42,Arson Plush:5,Cookie Fumo:1,Toimari Plush:4,Hamis Plush:0,Dirty Arson Plush:0,Maxwell:2,Glizzy:10,Revolver:10,Gremlin Can:6,Toy Hammer:10,Gnarpy Plush:3,Boink:0,Cup Noodle:30,Freddy Fast Bear?:0,Nokia 5,Moai:0,Froggy Chair:0,Eevee Plush:0,Death Note:4,Uno Reverse Card:3,Bracken Plushie:20,Bunker Spider Plushie:20,Coil head Plushie:20,Comedy mask Plushie:10,Hoarding Bug Plushie:20,Jester Plushie:5,Tragedy mask Plushie:10,Weezer Guitar:6,Page:16,Page:16,Page:16,Page:16

it meihgt be because of weight though

let me try lifting some weight to an extreme degreee

[hushed aspen]

Update on that issue:
I've reassembled the profile I've sent one mod at a time. Affliction works fine now. I'll see if the bug happens again tomorrow when I start configuring the modpack

[pseudo thistle]

Odd

[solemn plinth]

@pseudo thistle
Do your moons have any exterior enemy spawns?
I have not seen them on Lethal Quantities.

[bronze echo]

They are not shown on LQ

[solemn plinth]

darn

I won't edit these moons at this time then.

[pseudo thistle]

ah thats sad

Ill send you the exterior enemy spawns for each

[solemn plinth]

Woot!

[pseudo thistle]

Affliction

• Daytime: DocileLocusts | 45, Manticoils | 25, RedLocusts | 20, HoardingBug | 10
• Outside: MouthDog | 34, ForestGiant | 24, SandWorm | 18, BaboonHawk | 24, SandSpider | 30, HoardingBug | 70
  Eve
• Daytime: DocileLocusts | 35, Manticoils | 45, RedLocusts | 15
• Outside: Flowerman | 12, BaboonHawk | 35, HoarderBug | 40, MouthDog | 3
  Sect-0/Gordion
• Daytime: DocileLocusts | 45, Manticoils | 55, Blob | 15
• Outside: MouthDog | 35, SpringMan | 35, Flowerman | 20, Nutcracker | 25, Jester | 5, Crawler | 42

[solemn plinth]

I wonder why Lethal Quantities does not pick this up.
I also wonder what will happen if I plug these values in. 😛

Guess we will find out. haha

[pseudo thistle]

Its a quirk of a fix I put I believe

Next LLL update Ill fix it

[polar atlas]

👏🏼

[pseudo thistle]

Tyy

Its been making nice progress

[alpine halo]

depends how much c# you know 🤠

[pseudo thistle]

xD

I plan to learn

But at the moment id rather keep it be as it is

It feels fine as it is with its difficulty

[red stone]

the thumping platform

imagine 2 thumpers sandwhich you

locker enemy mod might work too, haven't tried yet

[pseudo thistle]

Yikers xD

You can jump down its just very hard to see

Hazards, scrap, and vents spawn down there

[red stone]

VERY INTERESTING