Biodiversity - Expanding upon LC's fauna and their relationship with their habitats.

[fathom spire]

I already gave all the coders feedback on their respective entities so i'm just waiting on that

all good all good

check this one tho 🔥

[fathom spire]

like i am ong just waiting on other people's stuff to come in cuz ion got nothing to work on myself :3

i did do some designs last night though

nobody knows what these are so idc about leaking designs

[sage mauve]

Nah nah nah

These are advances.

[fathom spire]

LMAOAOASDJOIFOSADJ

guys we're working i swear .....

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[sage mauve]

Not me, I'm on vacation. ✌️

Monty best boss, he gave me a month of paid vacation.

[fathom spire]

GET BACK TO WORK I NEED SOUNDS

https://tenor.com/view/gohan-whip-study-dragon-ball-study-harder-gif-16626900

[worn python]

Tangrowth if it was cool.

[sage mauve]

No.

[fathom spire]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-big-smoke-gif-26028132

ok :3

[sage mauve]

I'm fine, it didn't hurt me.

[sacred ferry]

i like how i am in all of the screenshots posted

biodiversity hardest worker 💯

[fathom spire]

ong 🔥

[solar junco]

aything new?

[sage mauve]

Eh

Uh

Well...

We are developing Biodiversity. (?

[solar junco]

sounds promisable...

[sage mauve]

Yeah, Biodiversity is a non-linear mmorpg mod where you write your own story.

[solar junco]

waht?

[fathom spire]

TRUEE

[mint dew]

sponsored by rAID SHA-

[tranquil berry]

DOW LEGENDS!

someone need to do a tv channel with the raid shadow legends AD

[fathom spire]

I got some concept art done yesterday, looking to revamp an old abandoned enemy concept

one of the very first ones infact

[solar junco]

did u show them?

[fathom spire]

nah I haven't

If I show it it'll be a spoiler

but I will show this

hot dawg

[solar junco]

u know, if u ask me, the enciclopedya file is a big spiler already

lemme guess

its an spore lizard variant?

[fathom spire]

yeah!

[solar junco]

got em

[fathom spire]

pretty big yeah, but I don't have the actual metrics and mechanics in the encyclopedia

[dull needle]

looks killable

[fathom spire]

have fun trying!

[solar junco]

noooo

dont killl ma boi🥺

[dull needle]

ill just make a patch to remove it from the game 😎

also #1243163303870726164

[fathom spire]

wanna make a weather for me? :3

[dull needle]

i mean, you know i wouldnt say no lol, whats up?

[fathom spire]

I'm fairly certain it'd be simple, but I really don't know how much you can modify thru weather

let's go to dms

[sage mauve]

If Xu says no, she is not capable of doing it. B)

She is afraid of success.

jk

[fathom spire]

100% ong....

[dull needle]

you right

i cant do it

😔

[pure ridge]

OMG IT IS ADORABLE

Lava Lizard my beloved

[fathom spire]

i like to call him "hotdog"

not a dog but it looks like a sosig

[dull needle]

nah monty thinks dogs are hot

freak

[solar junco]

i think teire cold...[

[mint dew]

omg i love him he looks like a ghost-type charmander XD

[solar junco]

he looks covered in mud

no offense

[fathom spire]

ye!!!

chubby lil salamander guy :D

[fathom spire]

he's a little silly yeah

[solar junco]

acording to xiaolan u think dogs are hot

i think hes cold

we are not the same

[fathom spire]

xu xialon eats her boogers in her free time so idc !!!!

[solar junco]

what

ohhh

i still think hes cold

[dull needle]

https://tenor.com/view/yandere-tagged-knife-anime-gif-16524623

[solar junco]

oh jno

hes so ded

[fathom spire]

https://tenor.com/view/dokuro-anime-angel-gif-21215820

this is you btw

[solar junco]

waht the feck

a normal conversation with my friend

[topaz summit]

Dino nuggie

[chilly galleon]

masked variants??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[tight moat]

Guy on the right eats candles

[mint dew]

one of them looks like a bracken inside an employee and the other one looks like it's an overgrown bracken with a mask

kinda cool actually

[fossil wraith]

how is this mod going

[fossil wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-spiderverse-dragon-ball-gif-16710249899645766833

masked?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241183245798998026/1243362804396720302/caption.gif

[fathom spire]

recounting all (somewhat) thought through enemy concepts

[dapper crystal]

That’s a lot of (REDACTED)

[sacred ferry]

secret :3

[dapper crystal]

How's progress coming? No rush or anything just curious

[fathom spire]

pretty decent, not much progress these past few days but people got tests and other stuff going on

we've got two functional enemies, just need animations and some bug testing and we can release

[amber shore]

Ik you probably have like a bunch of people testing but if you needed more bug testers I would be happy to help in some way :) /nf

[fathom spire]

oh of course lmao

I'll probably host a test sesh on xu's server aswell once we have animations

[tall sapphire]

🔥👀

[amber shore]

Oh hell yeah I'll make sure to join hehe

[mint dew]

"dagger"? hm...

[fathom spire]

https://tenor.com/view/spoon-cat-spoon-spoon-cat-cat-apple-apple-cat-gif-254879498273748

[cunning bridge]

You should check out giant specimens! It’s doing exactly what you’re saying but with giants

[fathom spire]

yup! me and xu are buddies heheh

[cunning bridge]

And I’m an artist aswell if you need one :3

[fathom spire]

this mod was actually inspired by giant specimens, and giant specimens is the reason why I haven't concepted any forest keeper variants

[cunning bridge]

[cunning bridge]

The respect you have for xu is awesome

How many bracken subspecies do you have so far?

[fathom spire]

used to have 3/4

but one isn't fully developed, one was changed to be a variant of another enemy, and the other was scrapped

[cunning bridge]

Can you dm me the google docs link I am not scrolling all the way back up

The encyclopedia pls

[cunning bridge]

Are you coding them as we speak?

[fathom spire]

it's all pinned

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lt-DcJXc83IM61sChwVV-Pn_ICMrkxFIqwXS7tsMknA/edit?usp=sharing

[fathom spire]

nah, i'm only the game designer, concept dude and artist

we've got bongo, ccode, darth figo, confusified and marucci on as coders

[cunning bridge]

Your art is remarkable

[sage mauve]

34*

[cunning bridge]

34!!!!

[sage mauve]

Just kidding, ah.

[fathom spire]

LMAO

[cunning bridge]

The only art I can really draw is a shmorpo

[fathom spire]

i'd die trying to come up with 34 designs for brackens lmao

[fathom spire]

thanks bud!

im sure yours is sick aswell

[cunning bridge]

I can show you.

[sage mauve]

But I gave you ideas, like the Mexican Bracken that instead of grabbing your neck he suplexes you or something like that.

El Bracken del Ocho.

[dull needle]

You have 5 people, I'm taking bongo away :p

[sage mauve]

Bongo is the leader of the programmers, so no. [?]

[dull needle]

No shot he is

But also ur not monty smh

Anyway I'll be trading him for that weather u asked monty thanks ;3

[cunning bridge]

So the squad is called bongo squad XD

[sage mauve]

Well, now in this message I am the leader of Biodiversity and we refuse to sell out Bongo for your weather.

Furthermore, we respect human rights and Bongo is not for sale because it is not possible.

[fathom spire]

confusified hasn't done anything yet 🥲

neither has marucci, but that's because they're still learning

[fathom spire]

LMAO I FORGOT

[sage mauve]

Monty, you should be called BioMontsity.

[fathom spire]

i mean, the github's his i think

[fathom spire]

shush

[cunning bridge]

Ocho is eight in Spanish

[dull needle]

Then ur not getting it :boo

And I'm taking bongo away anyway heh

[sage mauve]

Yeh.

[cunning bridge]

Bracken the eight?

[sage mauve]

We have lawyers.

[dull needle]

And I have his consent, ez

[fathom spire]

if by lawyers you mean me crying and bitching on xu's vc then yes

[dull needle]

Lol

[sage mauve]

It is in reference to a Mexican series called "El Chavo del Ocho" in English it would be The Guy from Ocho or something like that.

[dull needle]

Afaik bongo doesn't do much for ya anyway

Or atleast that's what he's told me

[sage mauve]

Bro, next to my house I have a law office. 😭

[cunning bridge]

Oh nice

[fathom spire]

he's literally the lead coder for honey feeder and every single critter wdym 😭

[dull needle]

@drifting valve

[fathom spire]

if he doesn't do much it's just cuz i dont like bothering him every 2 seconds to do work, but like... he's got a lot of stuff he does

[dull needle]

He keeps telling me he's done nothing for bioD

So idk

[sage mauve]

Monty is weak to Xu, S1ckboy will have to negotiate with Xu.

This is like a Pokémon battle.

[cunning bridge]

STAB moves are recommended

[dull needle]

S1ckboy too busy with exams :p

[fathom spire]

that's his perception

cuz like, apart from enemies he was also working on the spawn mechanics

[sage mauve]

Yeah, Bongo has completely altered reality, don't believe him. :p

[dull needle]

Icic, hard worker

What else? How much work has he put in?

[sage mauve]

Bongo made Wesley's cube a functional enemy.

[fathom spire]

he's coded about half of the behaviors for honey feeder and make basic roaming ai for a critter

and also implemented the spawn mechanics, though according to him they're not fully polished

[cunning bridge]

Wait bongo works with Wesley like the magic_wesley

[dull needle]

No it's a joke

[fathom spire]

it was a joke but yeah we do mean magic wesley lmao

it's just that the one enemy bongo's doing doesn't have a model so it's njust a white cube

[fathom spire]

what's left for honeyfeeder code is attack AI, making the hive disappear, acid attack and implementing the spawns for the nest

[sage mauve]

This.

[fathom spire]

i just don't like bothering bongo to do stuff cuz I assume he's busy most of the time, so progress is slow-ish?

[sage mauve]

And implement the sounds that I made.

[fathom spire]

oh, yeah that too

[sage mauve]

I'm excited to see what my favorite Honey Feeder sound will look like when it's all implemented. :³

(when Honey breaks his jaw)

[dull needle]

Good, he's super busy, don't bother him, ever again

:3

[fathom spire]

[sage mauve]

I already saw how the Ogopogo sounds were a success. 😂

A headache, but my great success.

I already want to see how The Aloe chases them.

[fathom spire]

you already do gross stuff like kiss him n shit let me make him code for a bit

https://tenor.com/view/spoon-cat-spoon-spoon-cat-cat-apple-apple-cat-gif-254879498273748

[dull needle]

I dont smh where'd u get that idea

[fathom spire]

sure,,,

[sage mauve]

That cat is in paradise.

[cunning bridge]

Do you intend on making honey feeders befriendable?

[fathom spire]

they're already pretty friendly!

[tight moat]

This has gotta be one of the most "Chat does he know?" messages in here

[dull needle]

Him having respect for me is unheard of

[fathom spire]

literally shut the fuck up 😭

[dull needle]

Exactly

[fathom spire]

eat a rock

[dull needle]

Exactly

[fathom spire]

"Exactly" 🤓

[drifting valve]

:3

[fathom spire]

isn't it 5am for you, little man

omg it's my birthday where you aree

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1167636036281708615/1226255621699932220/ezgif-1-ed4a8cd86d.gif

[drifting valve]

6 actually champ

/j.

[fathom spire]

yeah i looked it up

it's 7:38 rn for ya

39

39

39

i meant 39

!!!

[fathom spire]

when do you think you'll have free time to finish up the critters?

i'll be working w a buddy to do sfxs

[fathom spire]

most will just use the same template as the one you've already made

[sage mauve]

Go to sleep or I'll tell Monty to throw a brick at you.

Bruh, I thought it was on the Biodiversity server, not the thread. XD

[drifting valve]

wharg it's the morning

[drifting valve]

not this weekend

maybe next one

[sage mauve]

But on Fridays-Saturdays you have to sleep more. (?

[fathom spire]

yibee yuuhuu

[fathom spire]

LMAO ME TOO

[worldly cipher]

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting/s/HFSu6nw5Ko

For some reason this just fits

[fathom spire]

irl baboon hawk 👁️

[worldly cipher]

Right!

[sacred ferry]

i posted this once in the biodiversity server LOL i love birds dude

[cunning bridge]

Got the silliest baboon hawk variant idea

[tight moat]

Chat I think it killed him

I think the hawk variant killed him

[cunning bridge]

I am making its art

[cunning bridge]

I’m an artist

Ok so I spoke to Monty and have brainstormed an idea for a butler variant called the chef

[dawn flicker]

oh ye i know that it was really cool!

tho i was thinking it could be better if its a butcher (?)

[cunning bridge]

In beginning of the day it chooses a kitchen to call home

If you take an object in the kitchen though he go apeshit .He would be armed with a rolling pin and rarely a comically loud frying pan. If any monsters enter the kitchen he attacks them until they leave. Except for butlers He will stare at players until they leave the kitchen and thieves will get chased out of the kitchen. If you give him something he protects you as long as you’re in his kitchen

[tight moat]

Butch 'er? I hardly know 'er!

[dawn flicker]

works greatly with the Pan Bracken lmao

[cunning bridge]

Should be easy to code the first part since it’s just spider programming

[dawn flicker]

the fanfiction pan holder bracky

[cunning bridge]

What?

I hope people like my idea

I spent whole day thinking

[dawn flicker]

i do like it!

[cunning bridge]

I will return with baboon hawk variant

[dawn flicker]

||we have one solid butler variant so far||

[cunning bridge]

Aren’t you a coder?

Wait sick

[dawn flicker]

nope ._.

i do understand it somewhat but havent really tried coding

im doing everything else tho

lmao

[cunning bridge]

Nice r u artist?

[dawn flicker]

i wouldnt call myself that but i do some stuff around it

like modelling and i make custom menus

but i suck at drawing/texturing

for BioD i made 1 model, a couple of concepts, organized stuff and made sfxs for one prio entity

and made some rough sketches for my concepts lol

[cunning bridge]

Am artist 🙂

[dawn flicker]

Nice! Looking forward to your arts about the chef and hawk variant :3

[mint dew]

objection: i want b e e g s p o o n

but actually i rlly like this idea

only problem i have is factory layouts

[cunning bridge]

How w about we give him a ladel

[cunning bridge]

Oh good points

[mint dew]

perhaps he's reskinned as a construction worker on factory layouts and inhabits storage rooms?

[cunning bridge]

We give him wrench and call home the engineer

[amber shore]

omg I need this guy actually

[mint dew]

HE SETS UP TURRETS FAHAH XD

[cunning bridge]

Puts mines in storage rooms

[cunning bridge]

Thank you

[mint dew]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-engineer-gif-23869806

[mint dew]

yunno would would be goofy? cooking pot
he just... cooks you alive
body is unretrievable via teleporter

[fallen furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/kirbo-gif-24123417

[mint dew]

yeah XD

[fallen furnace]

Turn you into scrap?

[sacred ferry]

we already got a guy who makes mines planned teehee :p

[cunning bridge]

I thought maybe he would set up different things like stoves and stuff and if you give him stuff to cook he leaves you alone

[mint dew]

so u just gotta let him cook

[cunning bridge]

Exactly

You know that scene in ratatouille

Where the guy breaks a bottle to shank a rat

[sacred ferry]

theres a rat controlling him as opposed to the hornets like the regular butler

[cunning bridge]

That’s the chief

[cunning bridge]

YES

THREEE RATS pop out

[mint dew]

OH MY GOD

GENIUS

[sacred ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-movie-jerma-lore-mystery-of-the-mayan-treasure-pier-rats-gif-16375444

[mint dew]

well rats seem a lil unimprovised

make em smaller

give em wings

make them spin from ime to time and play a distorted version of freebird XD

okay im tryna think of a way for the weapons to work

the two melee weapons we have rn are unique: knife is essentially 1.8 minecraft pvp and shovel is hold button and release

i feel liek both the pin and the pan would be too similar to the shovel

[dull needle]

For this mod? Weapons?

Keep in mind anything not following the knife or shovel design would be too hard to make for these guys :p

[worn python]

I know there's the Lock Dagger but

is it really necessary to add more weapons? lol

[mint dew]

well i mean like

if not a weapon then an item

bc butler drops knife and it'd be weird for a butler variant not to drop anything

[dull needle]

"It's not a weapon it's just an item that looks, acts and is a weapon"

Lol

But yeah I agree

The butcher knife can just be a bigger knife

I don't see the problem with thar

[mint dew]

hm

okay here's the pitch
butcher knife = knife... but t h r o w

(-able)

[dull needle]

Throwing is finnicky in this game

I dont recommens

[worn python]

I have too much TF2 PTSD flashbacks.

hell no

[mint dew]

WAIT ok i have an idea
rolling pin/frying pan is a slower shovel, BUT it stuns enemies like stun 'nade

(only enemies that can take damage tho, if u bonk an old bird with a piece of wood it aint gonna reeze in its tracks)

[dull needle]

Can't make a slower shovel

Roll with the current speed

[worn python]

a weapon that stuns is cool in concept but you're going to need a different downside

[dawn flicker]

shush

go away

[dull needle]

You can make it stun enemies sure, you'll just probably be breaking custom enemies and having to do a lot of custom code, which isn't too bad

[worn python]

I do not like the idea of using something that's slow :)

[dull needle]

Alright, u can struggle without my advice :3

Won't offer it again

[dawn flicker]

.-.

[mint dew]

yeahhh that's fair

[mint dew]

close range AND shovel speed

[worn python]

hmmmm

how close are we talking

[mint dew]

so if you perfectly time it, u can effectively... "parry"
as in your enemy freezes and u beat them up

but if u miss then uhh tough luck

[dawn flicker]

tbh what Xu said its partially true

[dull needle]

Partially true my ass

I've done what they're trynna suggest and more smh

Anyway go on

[dawn flicker]

aight so

by partially i meant mostly, but braindamage after learning so dont mind me- BUT we indeed have some thing we'd like to do for playeranimations

[sudden hedge]

I mean couldbt you make it so the frying pan has low base damage but the longer you hold it in wind up the more its damage ticks up until it reaches a max damage value to give an illusion of it being slower without it being slower or is that not feasible with this games code

[dawn flicker]

and yes it is true that it is harder to do

[mint dew]

So in summary:

• dropped by chef
• rolling pin/beeg spoon/frying pan (idk which one)
• knife hitbox and shovel speed
• if u hit an enemy with it it gets stunned like stun grenade
• if enemy can't be damaged, it doesn't get stunned
• doesn't work on giants

[dull needle]

That's feasible, just might be a bit hard

[dull needle]

That's a helluva lot of work for a weapon

A lot more work than u think

I'd rather make an enemy from scratch tbh

[dull needle]

Also, player animations are super finicky and making ur own will end up being super awkward

I know cuz it's included in CR

[dawn flicker]

ikik

[dull needle]

U haven't seen it :p

[dawn flicker]

thats why we still havent touched that part

[dawn flicker]

havent seen it, but saw talks about it i think

[worn python]

I assume the bulk of the work would be related to recognise what enemy has been hit and if it should be stunned

[dull needle]

Yeah, after being implemented it's still super annoying with some unavoidable problems

Plus you'd be doing a lot of animating

[dawn flicker]

anyway the custom weapons as Xu said should follow shovel/knife

[mint dew]

mhh fair point

[dawn flicker]

if we do indeed make custom animations at some point we will think about implementing these ideas

its still good that you guys leave ideas we can polish out later maybe

||tho we have like [cant say the number cuz Monty will eat me alive] approved idea tbh so we kinda polish those rn||

[worn python]

does that mean I can spout my nonsense and it may have a chance?

[dawn flicker]

yup

[worn python]

(tbh I don't wanna overflow yall with ideas, sounds like there's already a lot on the plate)

oh HMMMMMM.

[dawn flicker]

bro you dont even know 💀

[worn python]

I can probably guess how many ideas you lot have looked at and thought "that's cool"

although it will be the next significant tenth 😂

[dawn flicker]

these are just the prio entities lmao

[worn python]

...OK maybe nearest significant hundred

😂

[dull needle]

Yall yap a lot but not do a lot 😭

[cunning bridge]

Say hello to my (official) chef art

[dawn flicker]

we all have other stuff going on too lmao + irl stuff

i literally work for you too (even tho i havent made much of an impact yet)

[dull needle]

Alright buddy I'm still waiting to cash in on that work u need to do for me 😔

[cunning bridge]

His name is Horacio

[mint dew]

El Cocinero™

[cunning bridge]

Meaning?

[mint dew]

The Chef

(™)

[worn python]

ooooh, that's one portly fella

[cunning bridge]

Oh ok thanks

[worn python]

what would he have inside? maggots?

[dawn flicker]

i gotta roll my moon out, compress my menus filesize somehow

[cunning bridge]

RATS

[mint dew]

someone suggested rats like ratatouille

[dawn flicker]

also i also wait for you to do the stuff for my moon lmao

[worn python]

...you missed the opportunity to call him Linguini.

[dawn flicker]

there are rats in an interior mod

[cunning bridge]

Horacio the Italian chef is better

[cunning bridge]

We will make our own rats

[worn python]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-so-you-have-chosen-death-chosen-death-lord-of-the-rings-gif-15767548

[cunning bridge]

I will make rats

[worn python]

genetically altered rats maybe?

[dawn flicker]

Rats as in critter variants?

[cunning bridge]

Linguini to skinny to fit rats in him

[dull needle]

You'll have to resend me files and let me know what u want, cuz I don't remember being given models etc lol

[cunning bridge]

Good idea

[dawn flicker]

smh baka Xu gimme a min

[mint dew]

technically mask hornet variants but design-wise idk

[dawn flicker]

oh i've got an idea for that

or well tbh i havent really read up on what you guys talked about

just came in to shoo Xu away

[worn python]

I think there could be potential inspiration from the Rake from In Silence, at least in design, with it being a massive ass cryptid rat

[dawn flicker]

but like if the chef dies instead of bees, rats would come out?

[mint dew]

TL;DR:

• chef, butler variant
• resides in kitchen
• frying pan for a weapon
• if u steal anything from his kitchen he steals your life and chases you out
• if u give him something in the kitchen he protecc u
• if u kill him, rats instead of mask hornets

[mint dew]

yup (ratatouille)

[worn python]

Territorial Butler, basically?

[mint dew]

hmmm that could be cool, def looks like a critter variant

[dawn flicker]

gosh i love tl;drs

[dawn flicker]

yeah seems like it

and i kinda dig the concept

[mint dew]

original post:

[mint dew]

only problem we have: no kitchen on factory

[dawn flicker]

no issue

[mint dew]

im thinking he just makes soup in a room with a death pit XD

like he uses the death pit to make a soup pool XD

[cunning bridge]

Exactly

[worn python]

I don't think that's really an issue, you could replace the kitchen in this case with one of the store rooms

[cunning bridge]

Yes

[mint dew]

baboon hawk x butler but chef and he can protecc u

[dawn flicker]

more leaks

factory and mansion exclusive monsters are a thing for this mod

[mint dew]

ohhhhh sick

well thats good, then

[cunning bridge]

Speaking of baboon hawks heheheeheh>:)

[dawn flicker]

well implementation is another thing, its all good in idea

but we will need to figure out how to actually do it

[mint dew]

doesnt that go for everything ever

[sage mauve]

El Bracken del Ocho is also a good idea. 😎✌️

[dawn flicker]

based

[cunning bridge]

BEHOLD THE HAWK VARIANT

CHIRPO!!!!!!!

[mint dew]

yo????

[dawn flicker]

what can it do?

😮

[mint dew]

looks kinda like a platypus + a toucan
i love him :)

[mint dew]

guessing that it lays eggs and u can yoink them for $$$

[sage mauve]

Another leak: maybe in a week I'll start working on the sounds of another variant.

[cunning bridge]

It is in symbiotic relationship with normal baboon hawks

[dawn flicker]

YOO

[cunning bridge]

It eats metal

[dawn flicker]

ahh im just messin witcha you good take your time 😛

[dawn flicker]

uuh symbiotic relationship nice

[worn python]

redwood giant has a rival in the metal eating competition- /j

[cunning bridge]

The baboons bring metal to the chirpo and the chirpo eats it

It then lays these very heavy eggs

It can’t fly because it weighs 140 pounds

But it jumps

If it feels it’s in danger it jumps

And if you’re under it when it lands

You will fucking die

[mint dew]

ah gotta love LC logic

if 140 pound creature lands on u u die (ok makes sense)

but if someone drops 4 cash registers on me from the titan staircase ive never felt better

logic™

[mint dew]

by "metal" i assume like conductive items or smth?

[cunning bridge]

Stop signs, keys , yield signs and of course axles and shovels

If you hit chirpo the hawks go apeshit too

[mint dew]

so... hard-coded?
mmh...

[cunning bridge]

As I said metal

Do not ever give it the funny egg

[mint dew]

objection, your honour

shotgun

does it consume it and just get blasted XD

also knife does it stab itself

[cunning bridge]

It eats it and then shoots instead of squawking

Knife it just eats

It like breathes shotgun blasts out of its beak

[mint dew]

"mmm scrap metal!"
"oo this one looks yummy"
"mmmmmmm"
"..."
"..uh oh"
"hACHOO--"

i love it XD

[cunning bridge]

Yes

The egg would be an item you can get from baboon nests

It’s heavy but worth it

[mint dew]

worth it as in how worth it (range?)

also kinda just sayin somethin buuuut
what if the chirpo had babies that followed it around and could fly
so if u steal egg via jetpack, they madly chase after you

[cunning bridge]

120 minimum

Literally a massive metal egg

[cunning bridge]

Chirplets

[dawn flicker]

yeah so this was a lie @dull needle imma resend it to you once im actually back to modding

[dull needle]

Lol

Ight

[cunning bridge]

I’ll make the rats too while I’m at it

[cunning bridge]

The chirplets: when you don’t sell your egg within three days

[fathom spire]

I'm keeping any weapons out of this mod cuz they're either gonna be broken or complete ass

especially guns

balancing is harde

I'd also rather have more creative ways of killing enemies

rather than have a player click a bunch of times or smth

using your environment to your advantage is one of the things I like the most in this game 👍

[dawn flicker]

thats true

one of my issues with mods is that they make the game way too easy

hence why my custom enemy i want to make will be a pain in the ass

[fathom spire]

one of the reasons why tin turret is scrapped currently and will be reworked eventually

it created a weapon bloat issue snd I just wasn't fucking w it

[dawn flicker]

yeah for the tin turret i have an idea

but it wouldnt drop a weapon in the end.

anyway peeps heres a lil spreadsheet for all concept we have right now, not all are approved but they have potential

[worn python]

if anything I just prefer enemies dropping scrap at most

adding weapons is usually a can of worms not worth opening

else there'd be case like the Shotgun and Knife, where one is infinitely more valuable than the other.

[dawn flicker]

I mean yeah they should be balanced

They are harder to balance than enemies imo

[worn python]

Knife is more so a niche weapon imo, that can destroy one particular enemy more optimally than a Shotgun (Forest Keeper)
Shotgun is just crazy good.

[worn python]

I agree so much with that

[fathom spire]

back on the topic of weapons btw

I'm not so interested in things that do damage, but functional items/tools are very interesting to me

so I'm not opposed to those at all if they're linked to a certain enemy or smth

[fathom spire]

the fucks this supposed to mean lmao

glass house ass comment as usual!!!!

nah but yeah any weapons that would deviate too much from how those work would be a bit of a pain to implement

melee weapons atleast

including the anims if I'm not mistaken

since I recall mods that add player anims tend to clash (like piggy's revolver item) or smth

might be wrong though I'm not knowledgeable about this stuff :3

[fathom spire]

kinda like vile vending machine but 100x more aggressive

[dull needle]

Yall so allergic to advice, I should stop giving it

[fathom spire]

YOU LITERALLY DID NOT SAY ANY ADVICE

YOU LITERALLY JUST SHAT ON MY TEAMS CODING KNOWLEDGE 😭

[dull needle]

???

If you wanna look at it that way then u can ig :p

[mint dew]

lock dagger?

[mint dew]

wax soldier bayonet is scrapped too i assume?

[fathom spire]

nah

cuz I managed to nerf it into not just being a better shotgun

[mint dew]

oh?

[fathom spire]

if I made it into a shotgun with less spread it'd be broken asf

[mint dew]

that's fair lol

what is it now? (or is that too many spoilers)

[fathom spire]

it's still the same thing lmao

just nerfed in an (i think) interesting way

[dapper crystal]

Nerf: It's comically large and you have to turn sideways to go through a door

Lmaaaooo

[cunning bridge]

No ladel? 😦

[cunning bridge]

Working on coil head variant

[ocean verge]

coil head variant idea :)

what if its kinda like a reverse coil head but it only moves if its being looked at on the monitor or terminal

[tight moat]

Hellish for solo players because you're always the player being monitored

Well I guess you could turn it off

[ocean verge]

well like I meant someones looking at it on the monitor

not just when its on the monitor

only problem is it wouldent be a problem for solo players

[tight moat]

I think from a code perspective it'd probably just be "whenever the spoilhead is within X distance of the monitored player" instead of needing to track if like

someone's actually on the cameras and also looking at the screen

[mint dew]

ooo i actually really like that
if we're going with a tech-styled coil head, i think it'd be funny if it distorted walkie-talkie speech
imagine the panic that would ensue XD
(also said coil should prolly be a bit slower to compensate)

also i have a jester variant idea

not fully certain of how it would work but

essentially kiiiinda like jester, but it'd have a music disc that you could yoink as scrap and also to make it stop being angy

[ocean verge]

what if instead of making it not angry when you take the disc, it makes it angry

and the disc is worth alot

[tight moat]

what if it doesn't change how angry it is at all

but rather the music it plays is the main tool you use to protect yourself

and by taking the disc you make the monster entirely silent

[mint dew]

oo that could be cool

i also had an evil jester idea
where the jester is scrap (a tattered music box, two-handed, costs quite a bit)
however, a while after you pick it up and if there's a player close enough to it, it starts winding - whether you're inside or outside
imagine how chaotic this'd be - you drop it off at the ship and everything is calm and tranquil and then the guy on camera duty starts hearing a music box behinds him XD

[dapper crystal]

That’s when you grab it and Yeet that sucker into the nearest lake

Quota be damned

[mint dew]

and to calm it down, everyone gotta get inside the building or outside the building depending on where it is

Chaos™

[worn python]

I have a daft idea for a Jester variant based on this stupid image, mixing in ideas of the usual "Treasure Monster" trope with its valuable scrap:

The Jabber

(Insanus-Pugnus)

The Jabber would function almost identically to a Jester, except when it decides to "wind up." Instead of winding, the Jabber would ready its devastating punch, lowering its box to face forwards. After 3 seconds, the Jabber will fire out its punch, killing any player that stands infront of it. If it misses, it enters its Popped State, chasing after any player closest to it in an attempt to punch them to death. In its Popped State, the punch is 1.5 seconds quicker, however it will immediately retreat at astonishing speeds if it successfully lands a hit on the player, then revert back to Box State.

Unlike the Jester, it can be killed. It can only be harmed if it is in its Popped State. At 1 HP, the Jabber will enter its Berserk state, where it will permanently remain in its Popped state. When killed, it will drop its Pugnus Head, a relatively high priced scrap item.

Silly Stats (open for suggestions):
Jabber:
- 2 Power
- 1 Max Spawn
- 12 HP
- 0.95x Door Opening Speed
- 1.25x Stun Multiplier

Pugnus Head:
- 30 lbs
- One-Handed
- Approximately worth between 75-100 credits
- Conductive

Estimate Jabber Spawns:
Assurance - 2
Offense - 25
March - 10
Adamance - 12
Rend - 0
Dine - 6
Titan - 30
Embrion - 95
Artifice - 3```

wall of text sorry 😅

[mint dew]

Jabber
Sigurd's Danger Level: 81.5%
Scientific name: INSANEUS PUNCHUS
this thing is CRazy!!1! ithink, its's like a spec ies of the Jestr because it s a box with legs,,. but it als;o had a GLOvE like a frickin BOX-er!! (haha get it? bcause it's a box and it also punches u and knocks yo,u dead?/?.?) it also doesn't have a FREAKING SCiENTIFICC RECORD!! AGAIN!!!! my advice is just run, run away from it. Ddesmond tried to fight it with a shovel and punctured its glove and it went eVEN MOR APE!!!!111 again, run just run theres''' no hiding from it

[dawn flicker]

81.5%? thats almost garanteed death lol

[mint dew]

you're right

81.48760955464652%

to be fair jester's level is 90% so

[dapper crystal]

We take those odds

[chilly galleon]

1. this is not how Sigurd talks
2. Desmond would not fucking do that

[solar junco]

wait, is this mod gonna include monster records too?

[chilly galleon]

Unless what you were going for is Sigurd getting his brains scrambled with a good WHACK

Desmond still would not fucking do that

He's like the nerd computer wizard brains guy he is on terminal most of the time and i don't think Sigurd ever writes about Desmond fighting like anything at all

[solar junco]

is this mod gonna include custom monster record yes or no?

[chilly galleon]

why are you asking ME?

[solar junco]

idk

[chilly galleon]

i don't know

[solar junco]

im askin anyone i can find

lol

[sage mauve]

Are you referring to the bestiary descriptions?

And the best thing is to ask the Biodiversity team.

[mint dew]

1. im trying
   20 idf remember every LC lore character bro XD who else would fight? richard's a weanie, so maybe jess i guess?????

[sage mauve]

Although better to Monty or S1ck.

For some reason they ask S1ck more questions. XD

Monty is jealous of S1ck, fr fr.

[dawn flicker]

Bestiaries will be made for the entities yup

[dawn flicker]

dont bring it up... hes gonna be in my face all day long again

[tight moat]

why not just like

[dawn flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-pokemon-sigh-gif-cute-gif-15306698

[tight moat]

make a new character

[dawn flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/eddie-murphy-shut-up-secret-smile-gif-11832281269076636762

[fathom spire]

i am... smh

[tight moat]

Swunk?

[fathom spire]

Swunk?

[cunning bridge]

Well mines a fucking garden gnome but ok

[tight moat]

S-One'CK

[dull needle]

Monty jealous of most people because most people are more capable than him

It's true

He said it himself

[cunning bridge]

Anyone is capable if they try

[dull needle]

He doesn't try

That's the difference

Trust me

[sacred ferry]

i got one ive thought of withthat sorta idea where youd have to look away from it :P

[fathom spire]

i literally do

?

i'm not a capable person

🤷

i just, like, draw

and direct

[fathom spire]

damn alright

woke up with a finger up your ass i see

[dull needle]

Dms

[dapper crystal]

Xu bully

[dawn flicker]

Baka Xu

[dull needle]

I would never

I only insult friends 😔

Now this sickboy guy is probably the greatest modder I know, would never insult him

[dawn flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-surprised-pikachu-face-face-gif-15329743

[dapper crystal]

Is that true sickboy, are you immune to the hate

[dull needle]

Immune to hate? Or underlying message? Who knows

[dawn flicker]

oh god i've just gained "trust-issues" trait

[dapper crystal]

Lmao

[dawn flicker]

most likely the latter

[dull needle]

Lol

I'm kidding

[dawn flicker]

nonono

i understood the assignment

[sly sail]

much more than me being in the team, being an "idea guy" and not really being active or giving ideas atm

[dawn flicker]

dont worry about it.. you gave us great ideas!

[sly sail]

i still want to go further with my ghost girl variant(wont spoil it here for the moment in case it goes somewhere)

i myself want to get the idea out of my head and onto some modeling/image

but my PC doesnt run blender and not a good artist

[dull needle]

Technology is quite an annoying limitation

[sly sail]

dont know if my ghost girl variant will go somewhere, but will ask monty if i can give a hint at what it is(still needs a lot of work and time to concept i believe, is a pretty vague/early idea)

ok, main man monty told me i can say something bout it

[fathom spire]

[sly sail]

but it can still change a lot

this ghost girl variant(which wont be a girl) has something to do with tech and software

that's as much as i'll say

[dull needle]

Ghost boy

Wait

Danny phantom???

[sly sail]

not really

[dull needle]

Damn

[sly sail]

another thing i can say is that it doesnt have a physical body(like, not something you will be able to really see indoors)

this variant idea got its roots on another concept that i believe ham said

then i just got a lil bit of it(but not much, just a bit of the ghost and tech direction)

and the tech ghost variant got into being something(at least for the moment just a concept)

[mint dew]

"tech" ghost? makes me wonder if it'll interfere with walkies/sig. transmitters/teleporters somehow

[sly sail]

wont be saying no more, but i think that looking at it like this, it may dissapoint a lil bit at this point of the concepting

[dawn flicker]

we lack spider concepts

just sayin

[sly sail]

yeah, its one of the least concepted entities

we also lack snarefleas i believe

[tight moat]

Coconut crabs should be a spider variant

[sly sail]

but they are not arachnids

[tight moat]

I guess

[sly sail]

they got 10 legs, when arachnids have 8

although they are both arthropods

lil question, how many legs do hoarding bugs have?

[dawn flicker]

for that at least we have an approved one tbh

[sly sail]

something is something

[dawn flicker]

for spider we had my idea which is cancelled lmao

tho some of its features im keeping for another spider variant for sure

[sacred ferry]

i got one in my head but idk how exactly to make it function less like a snare flea with more steps lol

[dull needle]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-that-just-sounds-like-slavery-with-extra-steps-slave-rick-morty-gif-18016642

[fathom spire]

me recruiting people for biod

[dull needle]

Release bongo wen

Hes busy enough we can barely hang out 😔

[sudden hedge]

Outside spider varients that are daddy long legs as big as giants with long spindly legs

(and probably a config toggle to enable ro disable spider enemies for the arachnophobic)

[dull needle]

I have a spider enemy I was planning on making actually hmm....

[dawn flicker]

make my giant lol

[dull needle]

Wut

[fathom spire]

when he's able to finish the work he's got I'll release him

[dull needle]

Oh definitely when I get back into giant specimens

[dull needle]

Just the critters?

[fathom spire]

not even critters I'm talking like spawns and honeyfeeder

[dull needle]

I can give you a generic critter class

If they're literally just critters

But also deal

[fathom spire]

I switched bongo's job from feeder to critters so he'd have less work to do but he's still in charge of feeder

[dull needle]

Alright alright

[fathom spire]

a few are gonna have slightly different AI but generally they're all close enough to each other to where you can reuse the same code and just change a few values

[dull needle]

Yeah you don't need bongo for that, the generic class would do most of the work at the minimum, that's alright then

[fathom spire]

yeh

don't know who'd be able to handle that but I can reassing jobs whenever possible

and if I get no one I'll just STEAL from your people

[dull needle]

:p

They're loyal, probablh

Also I don't have many coders lol

[sage mauve]

Please make it compatible with arachnophobia mode.

[dull needle]

🤔 it won't be visually disturbing as a spider but I can maybe try?

[fathom spire]

then I'll snatch you in exchange for concept art and bullying tokens

[sage mauve]

(btw, if the mod is just the spider, I probably won't install it, but if it comes with other additions, then it may be)

[sage mauve]

Ohh, okay..xD

[dull needle]

Lol it'll be part of code Rebirth like most of my other ideas

[dull needle]

Oh noooo

As long as its not bongo

[fathom spire]

LMAO

[sage mauve]

Scorpions and mites are also arachnids. Although I don't have that much phobia of those two cases, maybe some people have a more generalized phobia.

[fathom spire]

if there's no bugfixes I won't bother you w bongo until we're ready to launch another batch or are having issues w implementing current batch enemies

[dawn flicker]

i want to run away from a very scary spider tbh

like i want to have an actual heartattack from it

[dull needle]

Ready to launch another batch? As in the same thing with honey feeder?

[fathom spire]

batches are the release system we're going with

[dull needle]

As long as he's not being set to do something time consuming it'll probably be fine

[dawn flicker]

as long as Bongo is fine with it ^^ he's not your property guys :p

[dull needle]

Hes my property

U can ask him

[dawn flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

[dull needle]

@drifting valve I choose you!

:3

[drifting valve]

wharg

[sage mauve]

Bongo, please don't betray us, we will be disappointed. 😭

[dull needle]

It's not a betrayal, it's realigning to the correct side :p

[dawn flicker]

your name's color is very telling

which side you're actually on

[dull needle]

I'm colourblind

[dawn flicker]

bruh i forgot

its red

you are on the dark side

[sage mauve]

Damn

I had a hard time understanding what colorblind was in English.

The name seemed so literal to me that I thought Xu saw in black and white or something, lol.

But it means "Daltonismo" in English.

In Spanish it refers to the person who studied that genetic alteration.

[dull needle]

Lol

[dawn flicker]

Xu has red and green (?) colourblindness

the red im sure about

[dull needle]

Ye

[dawn flicker]

yay! there we go i know my babe :3

[dull needle]

Lol

Unless babe can mean differently you should probably call me smthn else ;3

Am loyal

[dawn flicker]

my heart 😭

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-pokemon-kaiaghost-gif-21256649

[tight moat]

zamn

Xu got her lil boo thang and she won't quit it

[dull needle]

My what now

[pure ridge]

average London resident

[final canopy]

I beg your pardon.

https://tenor.com/view/pardon-gif-11652090

[mint dew]

i mean, spiders are the most... lame entity in LC imo
like, they're just irl spiders but bigger
u cant really make concepts for something that exists irl

tho a spider that shoots web would be fun

[dull needle]

Jester is a jack in the box

[sage mauve]

Coil-Head is the mannequin at the mall closest to my house.

[fallen furnace]

Old Birds are militarised robots

Butlers are British

[fathom spire]

Roses are red

[dapper crystal]

Monty is blue

[still cloud]

how did the test sesh go?

[final canopy]

Imagine if there was a spider variant that could climb on the ceiling and the walls.

Maybe it could even be a future feature for the bunker spider in a future update.

[worn python]

yall are lacking spider concepts?

uhhh

uhhhhhhhh

idk put a spider outside, make it a scorpion that burrows outside, boom. spider variant.

Bunker Scorpion or something 😂

[cunning bridge]

Jumping spider

[fathom spire]

test sesh got moved to this saturday (june 1st) since I forgot last saturday was my birthday :]

[mint dew]

happy late bday :)

[fathom spire]

thank yous !!!

[worn python]

Jumping Spider eh? Not a bad ideaaaa, what about a Jumping Scorpion- 😁

[mint dew]

ok: a spider that basically just like... shoots webs as mentioned previously (maybe even swings around, yes i am indeed copying spiderman XD)

[chilly galleon]

Hear me out

[mint dew]

spider could also reel u in if u get hit by its string

[chilly galleon]

Hear me put

[mint dew]

?

[chilly galleon]

I have the perfect spider idea

[mint dew]

oh?

[chilly galleon]

Look at this part in the bestiary entry of the bunker spider

Bunker spiders, of the genus Theraphosa, are the largest arachnid found in the Thistle Nebula and the second largest ever discovered.

SHOW US THE LARGEST SPIDER

He's not actually in the Thistle Nebula but who cares lol

[mint dew]

but second largest in the thistle nebula

[mint dew]

ye exactly
but beeg spider does sound goofy

[chilly galleon]

Something bigger than the bunker spider would have to be outside tho

That's kinda cool

Big ass outside spooder

[mint dew]

bunker tarantula

[chilly galleon]

Bunker spiders are already descendants of tarantulas

[mint dew]

heyyy i have an idea for a spider

Muffet.

thats it no more context goodby-

[chilly galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-ultrakill-gif-25859663

[mint dew]

agreeable

[cunning bridge]

Jumping pseudo scorpion

[mint dew]

ok so what entity has the least variant/which entity needs more variants most deperately?

[fathom spire]

i mean, spiders have no variants

we don't need variants desperately per say, but that one has a distinct lack of anything

[dawn flicker]

Imma make a concept for it soon tbh

I have arachnophobia and arachnophilia at the same time smh..

[fathom spire]

NOT A FUN THING TO ADMIT ALOUD S1CKBOY

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-big-smoke-gif-26028132

anyway

anything y'all want me to read up on?

like any concepts and such

i've been taking peeks at the thread but I haven't actively read much of what's going on

[sage mauve]

We don't need Bunker variants.*

Who needs those variants, nobody...

If they approve a variant of the Bunker Spider, I will leak all of Biodiversity's work. 👊

[fathom spire]

you heard the man, people, no spiders!!!

[worn python]

I made a Jester variant but ehhhh it's more or less a joke variant at best

#1212451384021221457 message

[fathom spire]

oh the punching one?

[worn python]

yes

[mint dew]

i also have a goofy jester variant that i think im too incompetent to check

so uh: a big box, two-handed, very valuable, but very heavy

however: it has a wind-up key on the back

the longer u hold left click, the more you wind the box

when you stop winding it u, the box drops from your hands and pops into a jester

the amount of time it remains in popped form depends on how long you wind it

whch means if u manage to time it well, u can lure it to the ship and get a buncha $$$

but if you fail, then, well...

[fathom spire]

that sounds quite fun, I like it

We've got a jester variant I could tweak to include that + its intended function

[dawn flicker]

theres no shame in that

👀

[mint dew]

no... but there is blackmail potentia-

[mint dew]

also had a similar idea but instead of you winding the jester, it's literally just jester that doesn't move and acts as scrap until you pick it up.
after a while it winds and then pops
depending on whether it's outside or inside, you have to get inside or outside

[dawn flicker]

im immune to it if its out in the open :p

also who would blackmail a cute lil pika?

[mint dew]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-maniacal-gif-gif-26150314

[worn python]

so what I gathered, Jester + Immersive Scraps' Anvil, but the Jester activates if interacted with instead, and briefly becomes an enemy.

yknow what, could merge this idea with the Jabber, since both achieve a similarish goal of being a "treasure enemy" of sorts.

[fathom spire]

Jester entity that's an item that does something to the player after a timer, noted

the other jester entity we have is the maker, let me fetch it rq

could definitely adapt this dude to have the item idea

just have it pop its legs in when grabbed

main function is that it creates hazards (mostly just land mines)

[worn python]

Have you ever thought about making custom hazards specifically for The Maker?

[young saffron]

damn this sooks fire

[young saffron]

its me

[fathom spire]

yeah lmao

smoke bomb was one of them, higher explosion radius land mine

and it'd probably be compatible with stuff like boombas and other custom hazard mods

The Maker being able to be picked up and moved, taken to the ship as scrap could work really well

especially cuz the main issue w it is that it can render certain paths unusable if it happens to activate while on a doorway

[worn python]

Hmmm, I did think at one point of a """Bunker Spider""" variant that isn't really a variant but more so a Boomba variant that essentially did a similar thing: setting up hazards in its perimeter.

The Maker sounds far better than my idea 😂

[fathom spire]

that is unless you get a stun grenade or a blank and throw it at the land mine

heheh thanks!! it was mainly @sly sail 's idea and I reworked it slightly

[worn python]

I suppose instead of landmines since those are almost instant death, it could place down weaker variants of landmines that can still deal tremendous damage, but have counters

[tight moat]

Claymores would work

[worn python]

such as bouncing betties, that float up in the air, but only deal damage to players who are standing up or are above the betties

[tight moat]

Laser sensors you can hop over

[worn python]

I did not think of Claymores lol

[fathom spire]

oh oh frag grenades

[sly sail]

we talking bout jester boi who leaves mines around?

[fathom spire]

yeah!

[worn python]

yes

now they're adding landmine variants

[sly sail]

the first idea for it was for it to spawn more entities, either present variant/vanilla or non present variant/vanilla

but it didnt really fit what we are currently doing(only 1 variant of each entity allowed per day)

so we changed it for it to spawn mines and maybe some other hazard?, just mines atm

[fathom spire]

I did rework that one into a separate entity

[sly sail]

did you?, which one is it?

[fathom spire]

I wasn't thinking of that idea when I did it but it's basically the same idea

[fathom spire]

check the dev server rq

[sly sail]

ok

[fathom spire]

i think it'd be fun to play a game of chicken with it though

like, landmines would be fun, atleast as a low chance spawn for what it makes

cuz otherwise you could just tough that shit out and never drop the maker

just tank the dmg on your way back and you good

[worn python]

don't landmines instantly kill if you are in its blast radius?

[fathom spire]

yeah!

[worn python]

ohhhhh boy

[sly sail]

maybe maker could have different mine variants with different effects?

[fathom spire]

yeah we were discussing that

[sly sail]

i mean, maybe venom thingy(as we have some entities with venom although none confirmed i think)

or flash mines

[worn python]

I suppose each landmine the Maker spews out requires a different action per player

[sly sail]

maybe depending on distance walked?

the less it walks the more deadly ones(one shot mines)

[fathom spire]

frag landmine, air pressure bomb, mustard gas (?)

[sly sail]

so you dont have it still and potentially killing you with a mine

pepper spray?(not a full flash, but pretty blurry vision)

[fathom spire]

I'd prefer it be a little fun roulette thing, where you 100% have to make sure you drop it before the trap does

otherwise you can just outplay it by checking how much you walked, being able to get low damage bomb and just going your way

[fathom spire]

wdym?

[worn python]

for example, one would require a player to crouch to avoid a jumping mine, another would require to look away avoid being flashbanged

[sly sail]

maybe maker could also stop in different ranges of the player depending on which mines he will spew next?

like it will get pretty close if it has a flash/pepper spray/push mine

and a lil bit further if it has an instakill or big dmg mine

or mustard gas

so maker doesnt get affected by the worst mines(buddy knows what it's making)

[fathom spire]

S-mine (frag mine): Less damage, higher explosion radius, little knockback

Vacuum bomb: Less damage, similar radius, does higher knockback

Gas mine: No damage, higher radius, slower detonation time, no knockback (basically #1224095029396635750 but a landmine)

[fathom spire]

oh you mean to avoid them

yeah probably!

i thought you meant different actions would trigger different mines

which i'm not as fond of as an idea

[quick matrix]

What about Venus Flytraps?

[worn python]

yeah that's fair lol

[fathom spire]

like a grabby trap?

[sly sail]

vacuum bonb wouldnt atract you? like, it would suck you in

[quick matrix]

Like a small bear trap that doesn't hurt too much and a human sized killer one.

[fathom spire]

it's what the irl bomb type's called

[fathom spire]

yeah I was thinking that, that's fun!

[sly sail]

yeah, just looked it up

[fathom spire]

I do wanna see about doing mines you can avoid by doing different things though,

[sly sail]

so multiple explossions

[fathom spire]

cuz most of these what you gotta do is just get really far really fast

with the gas one being the only one where you need to wait fo the gas to disipate

[sly sail]

could we make this have a soft dependency with lethal things so "maker" could spawn boombas?

[fathom spire]

I do like that the vacuum bomb can be used to boost yourself if you're smart enough

[sly sail]

like, pretty rarely

[worn python]

frag grenades do sound interestin for the Maker to drop, since it sounds more like a timed hazard that the player just has to avoid

and plus the possibility of additional damage via shrapnel 😂

[fathom spire]

yeah i'd like lt compat

[fathom spire]

yeee

the extended radius is to simulate the shrapnel

[sly sail]

maker loves explossives it seems

[fathom spire]

he's a little freak

[sly sail]

although it could also make bear traps

it would get you stuck to the trap for 1 sec maybe?

[fathom spire]

I'll drop the concept for what it looks like inside since he's not gonna be visible ingame

[sly sail]

not sure how to balance it, havent played in a while

[sly sail]

he's not enslaved or anything, he likes being there

he likes to tinker and stuff

he also work with the music's rhythm, hitting the metal and using he's tool at the rhythm of the music

i liked the music aspect of the jester, so i also wanted it to have something similar

therefor the radio monty suggested

[quick matrix]

I always had a idea of a enemy that just runs up to a player and forcably hugs them.

[sly sail]

that's potentially aloe

but dont think its pretty exact

[worn python]

what a silly creature

nothing bad will happen to them at the company building

[sly sail]

i also thought of having a tbh creature inside the box, but that also works

https://tenor.com/view/tisming-out-tisming-out-tbh-creature-gif-12713749494755209377

[fathom spire]

bored so I colored him in hehe

[fathom spire]

he simply escapes

built different

[worn python]

what an absolute silly guy

actually HMMMM

[fathom spire]

peepers sorta do that if you think abt it

[fathom spire]

yeah!

when he works on his machines he puts this song on

https://youtu.be/qaC0vNLdLvY?t=83

[worn python]

should I try to revisit that spider concept that I scrapped, since the idea was to have it be a tech spider similar to the Replicators of Stargate in design, but the "nest" it would make is instead made of either hazards like landmines or turrets... or make barbed wire

[fathom spire]

oo

did you know there's a mod that adds the replicators?

[worn python]

funnily enough, yes I did

[fathom spire]

i assume you do but just askin

yee

[worn python]

bit sad that it's left behind, kinda hoped that someone would pick it up but oh well

[fathom spire]

hopefully someone will in the future!

[sly sail]

love how this mod idea is going, from 3-5 ideas to a full mod soon(not every variant will be in at first tho)

[worn python]

I'll give the spider variant a shot tho

hmm

[sacred ferry]

robot spider that created barbed wire webs goes hard

[cunning bridge]

Same

[worn python]

Trench Arachnid

(Spiculum-colligerus)

Off-shoot project of the Coil-head, Trench Arachnids were created to quickly bolster defenses inside and, like its name implies, trenches. They resemble the extinct Pholcidae family, but with many components of the Coil-head, with its legs and body being re-used and repurposed. Their abdomen is made up of two Coil-head torsos, a large spike at the end of the abdomen resembling a scorpion stinger and a singular spring that is attached to the body.

Trench Arachnids behave similar to their non-mechanical counterpart. As soon as they spawn, they will create a nest somewhere in the interior, instead of creating spider webs, it instead creates barbed wire. Barbed wire differs that it does not slow the player, but hurts them instead for 10 damage per second, it can be removed by hitting it with a shovel. If spotted during its nesting state, it will freeze as usual, until the player looks away, where it immediately darts away.

When the Trench Arachnid has completed its set up, it will lie in wait elsewhere in the facility. If a player spots it this time, it will engage its chase state, with its abdomen now repurposed into a scorpion stinger. Eye contact aggravates it, causing it to move at significant speeds temporarily, however this only has a small chance to happen. Likewise to its humanoid counterpart, bright light stun it for a long time, and it struggles with opening doors.

Nerdy Stuff:
- Power Level: 3
- Max Spawn: 1
- Cannot be Killed
- Stun Multiplier: 3.45
- Door Speed: 18
- Attack damage: 50

Nerdy Spawns:
- Experimentation, Assurance: 0
- Vow: 6
- Offense: 35
- March: 12
- Adamance: 3
- Rend: 64
- Dine: 7
- Titan: 56
- Embrion: 28
- Artifice: 82```

tl;dr Bunker Spider + Coil-Head that puts down barbed wire, looking at it when it is chasing has a small chance to make it move at x4 speed.

[cunning bridge]

Skull for scully, fish for smoe and heart for valentine.

Let’s hope this poll turns out good y’all have 12 hours

[fathom spire]

I imagine it'd make more sense if you could cut the barbed wire w a knife instead of hitting it w a shovel to get rid of it

[worn python]

I thought it would be really difficult to handle in terms of gameplay so I let the shovel get rid of them as well for now

[sage mauve]

Okay, seriously, when you are going to talk about spiders and show images, please put spoilers.

[quick matrix]

Bruh

[sage mauve]

This time it doesn't matter much to me, but it may make me phobic at other times. XD

[fathom spire]

yo please can you spoiler spider stuff?

lydion's arachnophobic.

[cunning bridge]

:)

[fathom spire]

you're new so I don't blame you but it's important you do

[cunning bridge]

||Scully is a hoarding bug sized spider||

That is not hostile

If you kill him tho

Poison

[cunning bridge]

Wdym spoiler spider stuff?

[mint dew]

||like this||

||because arachnophobia||

||the command is /spoiler||

[cunning bridge]

Oh ok

[worn python]

optionally you can spoiler like this:
||spoilered message||

||spoilered message||

[tight moat]

||like so||

[sage mauve]

Thank you all for understanding! :3

[mint dew]

flyswatter so u can beat the everliving hel out of the spooders

[worn python]

☹️