How to Make a Custom Moon in Lethal Company | Lethal Level Loader

[sour pier]

oh crap i forgot to change the terrain settings, ty

yep that was the issue

[outer pendant]

Good!

[sour pier]

also is it possible to use occlusion rendering? to increase performance?

[outer pendant]

For the exterior yea, just place an occlusion area around your intended playable space, then bake it

[sour pier]

thank you I def need it on my moon or else it will lag badly

[knotty narwhal]

@outer pendant do you think there’s a way I could do this with my sun? Like an actual ball in the sky instead of a 2D image?

Woah could this prevent my sky from being this affected by my global fog?

[outer pendant]

To both questions: I have no idea 🤭

[knotty narwhal]

[knotty narwhal]

Perhaps you know how to export the bundles then

[outer pendant]

I covered that in the tutorial, did I not???

[knotty narwhal]

Oh shit

[outer pendant]

Or are you talking about to upload to TS

[knotty narwhal]

I may have forgotten that part from the video my bad

[knotty narwhal]

I can’t find it, weirdly

The export part I mean

[outer pendant]

.

[knotty narwhal]

Oh well kind of yes

I wanted to try it in game so I guess it’s the same steps yes

[outer pendant]

Just put the bundles where all of your other mods go

Set up a profile in r2modman, settings > browse profile folder > put bundles

[knotty narwhal]

Oh so I just copy the files?

[outer pendant]

Yup

[knotty narwhal]

There’s no export tabs like in premiere pro

Got it

[outer pendant]

You can look at any other LLL mod for reference, mine at least just has the icon, manifest, readme, changelog, and the bundles

v simple

[knotty narwhal]

Perfect! Thank you :))

[sour pier]

could someone help me fix the issue with my outside ambience playing inside the facility?

[knotty narwhal]

like that?

or I'm about to mess stuff up

[outer pendant]

don't remove them, just mark them in the bottom right like you did with the scene file, but put them in the "lethalwilds" bundle

[knotty narwhal]

Ohhhhh

[outer pendant]

you can adjust the rolloff in the audio source so that you can only hear it in the playable exterior, but I haven't quite figured out the best way to disable and then re-enable the ambiences

[sour pier]

oh alr

so when you leave the facility the noise will stop playing?

[outer pendant]

Setting the rolloff to be shorter would make it so you can't hear it from inside the facility

[sour pier]

how would you do that?

wdym by roll off?

[outer pendant]

In the audio source at the bottom

[sour pier]

so do you change the volume rolloff to custom?

how did u adjust your curve

[outer pendant]

Just lower the max distance

[sour pier]

oh ok ty I appreciate the help

[knotty narwhal]

both of these right

[outer pendant]

I overlooked a couple of things actually, you'll need to make sure the spatial blend is set to 3d for those settings to apply, and you'll need to have Min Distance set to just below Max distance to that the sound doesn't vanish as you move away from the game object itself

[outer pendant]

Yeppers

[sour pier]

alr thx, I just changed my noises to cut based on how a lethal company player would play

actually ur way worked

ty!

[outer pendant]

You're welcome :3

[knotty narwhal]

well my game instantly crashed lmao

[sour pier]

is it fine to have multiple moons under 1 project?

[knotty narwhal]

oh I forgot about the occlusion thingy, could that be it

[outer pendant]

That's what I do

But there's extra considerations that need to be... well, considered lol

@knotty narwhal

[sour pier]

and what are those, currently I am doing that without any issues

[outer pendant]

In editor I think there's no issues, but in game you have to have unique references for any scriptable object due to the way LLL works for now

[sour pier]

oh alr

[outer pendant]

That was me helping someone else with the same thing

[sour pier]

alr ty

[sour pier]

so If I have certain enemies spawning on moon A, they cant spawn on moon B unless I create a duplicate and select those enemies?

[outer pendant]

Yee

[knotty narwhal]

It’s marked draw instanced and I don’t really have much grass

[outer pendant]

Hm. Any logged error?

[cinder wasp]

once v50 comes out, how will the projects be updated to v50?

also, how do i find the textures that basegame moons use for terrain?

[knotty narwhal]

Very weird

[outer pendant]

Make a backup of the project and re-run Nomnom's patcher. Textures you should be able to find by looking at the materials on the terrain meshes

[cinder wasp]

thanks!

[outer pendant]

Strange, the stuff I mentioned above is usually the cause of crash-on-load

[cinder wasp]

OH I FOUND THE CAUSE OF THE SHININESS I THINK

it's the lack of a mask map?

[outer pendant]

Are you testing in a sterile profile (with just the necessary mods)?

[knotty narwhal]

Yes

I have the four dependencies and view extension

[outer pendant]

Oh? Are you able to adjust a coat mask slider somewhere?

[knotty narwhal]

Maybe I messed up my files somehow

[cinder wasp]

not that i can see, but setting a mask map to something other than none causes the shininess to vanish

[outer pendant]

Interesting

[outer pendant]

Let me see your selectable level

[cinder wasp]

shoutout to TexturesCom_Nature_Moss_512

i sure would like to actually see my project some time

[ancient meadow]

Night?

[cinder wasp]

heavily forested

[outer pendant]

You could try increasing the indirect light's intensity

[cinder wasp]

that is! a very good idea

hope i remember to set it back later

[outer pendant]

oh if you just want it for the editor

wait, in scene view or while playtesting?

[cinder wasp]

scene view

playtesting takes years to load so i just build the project and load it ingame for playtesting

[outer pendant]

Sorry, by playtesting I just meant playing in editor in this case

but if it's just for scene view, in the top right of the scene view you can click the camera and override the exposure

[cinder wasp]

👍

ough

[outer pendant]

lmao

[knotty narwhal]

I'm so sorry, I've been working on this moon for so long that i forgot what this is 😭

[outer pendant]

Bruh 😭

You need to go rewatch the tutorial lmao

[knotty narwhal]

Yeah frr it’s been too long

I’ve been on this moon for 2 months lmao

And it doesn’t even feel complete or good imo

[golden osprey]

I mean it looks great

[outer pendant]

Once it's playable, getting it out into the world will help it become better

[knotty narwhal]

Yeah true..

I think I’ll stop adding stuff and just post it as a beta version so I have a way to get instant feedback

[knotty narwhal]

@outer pendant

[outer pendant]

Hm, not really seeing anything weird. Try removing the leveliconstring. I'm pretty sure that gets sanitized at runtime, but I could be wrong. If that doesn't do anything (which it probably won't) try backing up and deleting the description. Maybe it's too long? I don't know all the break-cases 🤭

[knotty narwhal]

Alright let's try this out! thank you :))

[knotty narwhal]

Why'd my navmesh only generate on the ship? The boundwalls are out of the way too

I'm having so many issues it's kind of discouraging 😅

Idk what I'd do without you Knight

[outer pendant]

Did you accidentally disable the navmesh surface on your environment object?

[outer pendant]

Did you disable the visualization in the bottom right of the scene view?

[knotty narwhal]

à

I think I should be able to see it, right?

[outer pendant]

mmk is your terrain nested under the Environment object?

[knotty narwhal]

Wait it has to be?! lmaooo

like that?

[outer pendant]

yep

the navmeshsurface can't generate navmesh on an object that it's not connected to :P

[knotty narwhal]

true...

but it's still not working sadly

I don't know why

[outer pendant]

did you rebake it?

[knotty narwhal]

NVM

I turned off gizmos

[outer pendant]

ah okay

[knotty narwhal]

My man. Thank you for this 🙂

should my whole moon be under environment btw

[outer pendant]

Auralis for reference

[knotty narwhal]

oh wowww

So that's a very big yes

you do not want to see my hierarchy

it is hell

none of my objects have parents

they're let loose

[outer pendant]

it's probably legally required to be censored

[knotty narwhal]

time for a little cleanup

[outer pendant]

Big advice is to get organization going early

[knotty narwhal]

yeahh

I think my switch from LE to LLL made me give up

but hey I guess I found something to do for the next hour

[outer pendant]

Go listen to Audio Knight on Spotify and get to organizing :P

[golden osprey]

Does this include scrap as well?

[sour pier]

Screenshots I know ur cooking

[outer pendant]

I believe so, I have all of mine duplicated

[sour pier]

That’s crazy I finish my moons on 1-2 days and if i have been working on this moon for 2 months then it will be fire 🔥

Personally, this might sound weird, but I like “mid moons”,since it will be more consistent with unless I can just remove the vanilla moons

[knotty narwhal]

It's mainly just that I haven't worked on it every single day or for more than 1-2h a day

[sour pier]

Well even 20 min a day is a lot

[golden osprey]

Gotcha ty!

[golden osprey]

I was actually requested to make one of my moons more in line with vanilla visuals (alongside some realism with textures) so I ended up spending a lot of time making my textures dirtier and worn down and then finding a balance between dirty and clean.

Personally I like how unique moons can be, and with modding in mind it's up to the modder to make what they want. I will say realism and fancy visuals do appeal more broadly though it seems.

[outer pendant]

alternatively

"my moon my design"

[golden osprey]

Added just now to the appendix :p

I'll spare you the context but in this case I agreed with the feedback and I'm generally happy with the end result

[outer pendant]

Fair fair

[knotty narwhal]

I didn't expect this to actually take an hour

what a pain in the ass

[sour pier]

so do I have to select every enemy again manually

so I have 3 different moons in my project, I need 3 different folders and reselect every enemy? in the respective folder?

[outer pendant]

Unfortunately yea

[knotty narwhal]

oh man the navmesh is perfect

[sour pier]

alr thx

any thing else i gotta change?

[knotty narwhal]

time to try this out

[outer pendant]

Pretty much just any basegame scriptable object you reference. Mapobjects, enemies, scrap, and anything else that fits that criteria

[sour pier]

If I just copy my projects and keep 1 moon each project and delete the other ones, would that work?

[outer pendant]

honestly both of those might not have had anything to do with it, as borked as your hierarchy was lol

[outer pendant]

I guess in theory yea

[sour pier]

alr will try that

[outer pendant]

oh my god Unity has Vertex Snapping

This could have saved me hours

[sour pier]

how come I cant see fog on vanilla moon scenes

my moon is going to be very simaler to experimentation so i just want to copy the scene and add/remove props

[outer pendant]

I'm not 100% sure about vanilla scene stuff

[sour pier]

alr I will just copy everything needed then, hopefully it will work fine

but im still confused about the prop structures

how you have the slip the mesh

cause when I do that, the model gets all broken

[outer pendant]

Select the object, right-click the mesh in the inspector, and there's an option to split the combined mesh

[sour pier]

yea when I do that, the mesh gets all messed up

man why are the vanilla scenes so unorganized 😭 is that how zeekers made it, or just how the asset ripper works?

[outer pendant]

The scenes are Zeekers' setup lol

And idk why it would mess it up for you

[sour pier]

this thing right?

before:

after splitting combined mesh

since when did experimentation have a whole interior 💀

[valid umbra]

Always

It's experimentation

In the name

[outer pendant]

Hm. @empty anvil is there any way to prevent this?

[empty anvil]

Nah, the model splitter isn't perfect, especially for a bunch of the models as they are weirdly submeshed more than normal so it gets confused on what the mesh actually is. So currently, no, if it doesn't work for something then it has to be handled in some other way manually.

[sour pier]

yea I just wont use those models then sadly

[sour pier]

is there a way I could spawn scrap outside?

[outer pendant]

Not yet I think

[sleek saddle]

ehh

you can

if you put the spawn scrap setup the dungeons useo n the surface

it should see it

but itll cut into the dungeons pool of scrap

putting the actual prefab from the assetrip outside should work too right?

[grave lodge]

Nope, it ends up breaking the value

[sleek saddle]

ohhh

that makes sense

[grave lodge]

Not even 'value: 0'
It turns into like 'value: ' without anything

[sleek saddle]

yeah

cuz its itemproperties is not the right oner

ill have to think about that

[outer pendant]

Oh? I thought I remembered you telling me it wouldn't work for w/e reason lol

[sleek saddle]

it might

i forget things ngl

[outer pendant]

It'd be easy enough to test if anyone wanted to. Just make a barebones interior with no scrap spawns, put some scrap spawns on the surface and see what happens

[grave lodge]

I have scrap spawns for affliction's exterior, it works Ive noticed

[sour pier]

if you could share how that would be appreciated

or is it what audio knight just talked about

because artifice showed me just how much fun outside scrap spawns could be

ecplised, old birds, and nut crackers would go hard

and then i could also randomly generate props such as buildings so every game will feel fairly fresh

[grave lodge]

@sour pier this is basically how i did it

[sour pier]

alr ty

yo i might try this then, basically artifice, but way bigger and randomly generated

and then allowing for hazards and traps soawning outside

[sour pier]

if I were to click run game in unity editor, would that let me see if props could generate?

[outer pendant]

Yeah it should be just like playing the actual game

[late ravine]

might be another basic lack of unity experience here. but after changing some light settings in my scene and building, the light didnt update in-game. is there a separate button for building lights or do i have to do something special? does it have to do with hdri sky being set to dynamic?

what i did was lower the temperature in emission components of SunWithShadows, and Indirect*

[outer pendant]

The sun properties are actually controlled by the sun animator. If none of the basegame suns fit your needs, you can copy the sun animator and related animations and adjust them from there (make sure to set the new stuff to reference the copies, otherwise you're just changing basegame stuff again and it won't work

[late ravine]

i do have a SunAnimContainer (followed your setup video) and it seems to already point to the things i edited. clearly i am missing something tho ^^

[late ravine]

in case i misinterpreted, what is the sun animator? do i need something different ^o^ (disregard the renames, that was to be sure it was referencing mine)

Will try to come back to this later in case u reply. i have to do something

The daylight is how i want in the editor scene but when i build it looks like march lighting, to reiterate u_u does the game not use the sunanim thats in the scene?

[outer pendant]

If your sunanimcontainer is referencing the animations that were ripped from Lethal Company, they'll just get replaced by the game at runtime. So you need to make your own copies, ideally in your mod folder for organization ofc

[late ravine]

oh yeah its that simple

appreciated

[sour pier]

im still kinda confused how I would do that

[grave lodge]

You should be able to create an object with Spawned Synced Object script and choose your scrap prefab. OR if you want the scrap to be out of a pool like it is for normal scrap spawns, use the Random Scrap Spawn, find the item group you want to spawn and either set the item spawn range or check mark 'Spawned Items Copy Position'

The second method is what I use

[sour pier]

ty!

personally Im probably going to use the first method since my moon wont even have an interior

well at least its not going to be accessible, is it possible to just have it just not generate?

or is that going to break everything

[grave lodge]

Not sure

Woo, very fun

I can delete the ones that I wont use and extend them and everything

Should work nicely

Oops

Wrong channel T-T

[sleek saddle]

Red power marble looking mfer

[grave lodge]

xD
it actually does a bit pfft

[sleek saddle]

we gonna make it out of the jaffa factory with this one

[sour pier]

Would anyone else know?

[golden osprey]

You could in theory just make a custom dungeon that's super tiny and won't spawn scrap and have that ship with your moon

[sleek saddle]

if you don't have an interior you'd need custom code

[sour pier]

True

[sour pier]

Nope lol🤣

[sleek saddle]

if you don't have an interior you should need custom code

😛

[sour pier]

True

All I need is to bring scrap spawns onto the surface

[sleek saddle]

i mean yeah but then you have a whole ass dungeon running aswell

[sour pier]

I will just make it really small and disable enemy spawns there

[sour pier]

is there a way i could disable the ecplised shader and fog?

[knotty narwhal]

well my moon still crashes

Maybe my grass really is making it crash

[outer pendant]

Make sure your grass isn't casting shadows

[golden osprey]

Out of curiosity, trying routing to a different moon first, land on that moon, and then go to your moon and see if that works

[knotty narwhal]

Oh true I’ll try that

[knotty narwhal]

How does one do that? I tried messing around in the terrain settings but i can’t find

[outer pendant]

It'd be in the mesh renderer of the grass prefab

[knotty narwhal]

My shadows still show up in the editor. Do I have to place all of them back or they won't cast shadows in game?

[outer pendant]

?? you've changed the actual prefab and it's not propagating?

[knotty narwhal]

Yeah

oh wow okay nvm it just took a bit

thanks unity

Now I need to bake the occlusion or something

[outer pendant]

lmao

[knotty narwhal]

okay I tried but idk how lol

I just don't know how to resize it

[outer pendant]

make sure gizmos are turned on, then select the occlusion area and small handles should appear on each face

[knotty narwhal]

DAMN IT i keep forgetting the gizmos

What are all those blue squares that spawned everywhere

[outer pendant]

navmesh

probably

[outer pendant]

Oh, I think that might be occlusion

[knotty narwhal]

oh it is!@

why do these exist tho

i've never baked it lol

I think my navmesh may have drank too much

[outer pendant]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[knotty narwhal]

Wait what the hell you’re right

[golden osprey]

So good news, you got it to work. Bad news, I don't know why that issue actually happens and I'm having the same issue lol

[outer pendant]

No relevant logs from either of you?

[golden osprey]

I'll see in a sec. Shifted my focus for a bit to just finishing the map before I pinpoint the exact issue

[golden osprey]

[Warning:LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: Cube (25) Has Missing ReverbPreset
[Warning:LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: Cube (30) Has Missing ReverbPreset
[Warning:LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: Cube (17) Has Missing ReverbPreset
[Warning:LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: Cube (18) Has Missing ReverbPreset
[Warning:LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: Cube (28) Has Missing ReverbPreset
[Warning:LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: Cube (29) Has Missing ReverbPreset
[Info :LethalLevelLoader] Restoring ReverbPreset: SmallRoomReverb In AudioReverbTrigger: shipWindTrigger
[Warning:LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: shipWindTrigger Has Missing AudioChange AudioSource
[Warning:LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: shipWindTrigger Has Missing AudioChange AudioClip
[Warning:LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: shipWindTrigger2 Has Missing AudioChange AudioSource
[Warning:LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: shipWindTrigger2 Has Missing AudioChange AudioClip
[Warning:LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: Music1 Has Missing AudioMixerGroup
[Warning:LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: Music2 Has Missing AudioMixerGroup
[Warning: Unity Log] LadderTrigger is disabled! Netcode for GameObjects does not support spawning disabled NetworkBehaviours! The InteractTrigger component was skipped during spawn!
[Warning: Unity Log] LadderTrigger is disabled! Netcode for GameObjects does not support spawning disabled NetworkBehaviours! The InteractTrigger component was skipped during spawn!
[Warning: Unity Log] [Dissonance:Recording] (02:43:51.630) BasePreprocessingPipeline: Lost 960 samples in the preprocessor (buffer full), injecting silence to compensate

Mine was easy, just gotta fill in those presets it seems

[sleek saddle]

most of these don't like matter matter btw

i do be yelling at you abit

[golden osprey]

Oh yeah they're totally empty in Vanilla scenes it seems

Prob the audio changes then

[outer pendant]

Possibly, report back if it fixes it

[golden osprey]

10-4

[unborn marsh]

going to try this tomorrow for nom noms

also will use this for the moon that comes along with my interior

[golden osprey]

Doesn't seem to fix it, though the log for the non-wind-trigger cubes now have an extra line. I'll keep messing with it. To clarify this is a project with multiple moons, but I have swapped out all the selectablelevel prefabs with duplicates.

[outer pendant]

And it just crashes right after?

[golden osprey]

Yep no other lines

[outer pendant]

You have the terrain set to draw instanced?

[golden osprey]

Nope, testing now

Yep that did it

Thank you QA engineer Audio Knight

[sleek saddle]

gpu instancing my beloved

oh also @warped sandal this is where you'd wanna be if you wanna spread your gospel of static renderers

[warped sandal]

m, thanks
Basically, setting your non-moving objects to static gives a nice boost in performance for little cost. On my machine at least, I saw a 20-25% fps improvement, but ymmv of course. Static objects can be culled more aggressively by Unity, and can have their meshes batched together to reduce draw calls and data transfers to the GPU

[golden osprey]

I actually did that already, completely arbitrarily without knowing the benefits, but good to know it's useful and I'm not just obsessive

[warped sandal]

Yeah, it's definitely a notable difference. The base game moons don't appear to be set to static, which puts a decent amount of extra strain on the system

[golden osprey]

More like base lame moons 😎

[sour pier]

Looks really good

[golden osprey]

Not sure why but my builds seem to break now? Didn't mess with file structure prior to this issue. Temp has "unitystream.unity3d.tmp" which I'm assuming isn't quite the right file, though no idea where the proper one would be then. Going to make a copy of it and remove the .top extension and hopefully nothing breaks.

[sleek saddle]

multiple scene files in a single bundle? @golden osprey

[golden osprey]

Yes

[sleek saddle]

cant use variant labels doing that

for insanely niche reasons

build without the variant label and rename add the extension manually

(or release as two bundles)

[golden osprey]

What exactly do you mean by variant labels?

[sleek saddle]

myassetbundlename.lethalbundle

[golden osprey]

Not sure what weird thing I did to get things working before then. It definitely doesn't like it now after getting building to work. I'll probably swap to multiple bundles though since that's more user friendly anyways.

[grave lodge]

Woah

Thats very useful

[knotty narwhal]

I’m starting to think that I didn’t correctly set mine to draw instanced

[sour pier]

like multiple moons in 1 project?

also how tall is a player in lethal company? I want a cube where I can compare to player height

[golden osprey]

Yeah that's what I meant.

Also the custom moon tutorial shows you how to make a player height reference cube

[sour pier]

ye I remembered it
also that is debatable, it being more user friendly
#1210653206225363018 message

[golden osprey]

I meant that publishing multiple packages could be more user friendly - I don't plan to mess with my actual workflow. And by user friendly I mean users of the mod(s) won't have to set unwanted moons as hidden or worry about extra storage space. With that being said everything is magically working right now so I'm not worried about it.

[sour pier]

ah ok

[golden osprey]

Okay so my workaround doesn't seem to be as effective as I thought. I would like to maintain multiple scenes in my project for workflow, but I seem to not know enough about asset bundling/the package manager to do that.

[knotty narwhal]

How do you guys find some test subjects to play test your moons lol

I’d do it with my friends but they have no LC knowledge

[grave lodge]

I'm guessing to rip v50 assets I switch my steam to the beta and then use nomnom's asset ripper?

[valid umbra]

dont forget to update but i think so ye

[grave lodge]

Got it

ive done that, so woo

yep it worked!

[valid umbra]

noice

[knotty narwhal]

@golden osprey were you the one having shiny terrain issues? Because I think I’m having this problem too

It looked good in Unity but its terrible in game

[golden osprey]

Nah I meant this one. Don't have the know how to quite get it. I can still work on things but I think it isn't updating assets I change in the bundle when building.

[sour pier]

wait you have the v50assets and scenes?

Ect

[grave lodge]

Yeah

I made a new project and ripped the assets

[sour pier]

Bet

[knotty narwhal]

no way I fixed my shiny terrain

[sour pier]

I cant build my moon

[unkempt gale]

Ill get this error and the tools dropdown menu is removed from my unity

[outer pendant]

Did you put custom scripts into the project, or when does this occur??

[outer pendant]

Did you resolve this? Usually the thing that prevents bundles from building properly is something like having the exact same file in multiple folders, like when I tried to use an audio clip that I had in two separate folders, but was referencing both in one scene

[knotty narwhal]

I tried finding the answer on google but I can't find anything: is there a way to make an object emit a sound that you can only hear if you're near it?

[outer pendant]

Make the max distance in the 3d volume settings of an audio source small and set the spatial blend to 3d

[unkempt gale]

everytime i click on the project on unity

it wioll show me this safe mode warning

[unkempt gale]

and i didnt put custom scripts in

[outer pendant]

Was this after following the tutorial?

[unkempt gale]

yep

its the first time after i guess 2 weeks i created my moon thta the safe mode pops up

[outer pendant]

@empty anvil could this possibly be remedied by deleting the library folder and letting Unity rebuild it?

[outer pendant]

Oh so this popped up out of nowhere then. Hm.

Did you introduce any new assets or make any project changes before this happened?

[topaz nymph]

Hi all, nomnom mentioned this would be a good place to ask. We are looking to pull the disco ball (or something similiar) into the Lethal Casino mod. Any idea of the best way this could be done? It could be a prefab that is imported in and then is animated and run with a script we create. (I would assume most of this has already been made, but it just needs to be spawned in a different location (in the casino) and then another light switch to control just the one in the casino would need to be added. Let me know what you all think 🙂

[outer pendant]

Is Lethal Casino an interior?

[unkempt gale]

Sorry i forgot something this happened after i clicked on build and then selected the "initscenelaunchoptions" and i couldnt click on play because it tells me compiling error

[outer pendant]

If you ignore and don't go into safe mode, does the project work?

[empty anvil]

wouldn't hurt, should try that first

[unkempt gale]

yeah but my scene is all pink

and as i said before The tools dropdown menu got removed and only the lc project patcher is installed as packet

so the assetbundler is removed and idk why

[empty anvil]

Well did you do what audio suggested

[unkempt gale]

he means this folder in the project Folder right?

[empty anvil]

Yes. Close Unity and delete that folder. Then reopen Unity

[unkempt gale]

sure give me a minute

[empty anvil]

It's going to take longer than a minute

[unkempt gale]

yeah probably ^^

still got the safe mode warning
no tools dropdown back
scene is still pink

[outer pendant]

I'm really not sure in this instance. I don't understand how it would suddenly corrupt itself like that

[unkempt gale]

yeah idk it just happened after i clicked on build

[outer pendant]

When you say "build", you mean in the asset bundle window right?

[unkempt gale]

yeah

and then i got the compilinmg error then i restarted unity and then the tools dropdown menu was gone and the asset bundle in the package manager too

[unkempt gale]

is there a way to get my scene into a new project i created one and it works totaly fine

ahhhh i was so close to finish it only the lighting setting was missing

[outer pendant]

Without being able to access the tools in the toolbar, unfortunately the only way to migrate to a new project is make a new project and copy everything over. You'd need to set scripts and stuff back up tho

[unkempt gale]

i did that

and

it was the same

like The safe warning Pink scene

etc

[outer pendant]

Sorry I wasn't clear, you should only copy over your mod assets, not all of the packages and stuff, just your moons and whatnot

[unkempt gale]

can say specific folders like Only the assets folder

oh im dumb i guess you mean the assets folder

[outer pendant]

I guess specifically if you were following the tutorial's organization, it'd be the "Mods" folder and whatever asset store stuff you imported in

[unkempt gale]

It will be Just The mods folder never used The Asset Store

[outer pendant]

Yea if you do that you should largely recover what you have I think. Like I said you'll probably be missing scripts, but it's better than nothing

[sour pier]

nope:(

[sour pier]

oh wait actually I might have the same exact file in multiple folders

is there a easy way to figuire that out?

[topaz nymph]

Hey sorry, got caught up with something after sending that this morning.

It is a building we spawn in on the company moon with everything inside it

The “LethalCasino” mod on thunderstore

[knotty narwhal]

How did I even do that?

The moon just doesn't load anymore lol

[outer pendant]

check your level scripts and make sure the scene name matches

[knotty narwhal]

Is having a scene inside a scene normal? or like I'm just dumb and I don't know how this works

also is it cap sensitive

[outer pendant]

uhh

I have no idea how you did that lmao

[knotty narwhal]

Yeah. I wish I knew

how the hell did I manage that lmao

[outer pendant]

For the scene name in your SL (or EL idr which) I would err on the side of caution and cap-match

[outer pendant]

oh wait

that's a unity bug, not a game log

uhhhhhh

yea find out how you did that bundle-in-bundle thing

maybe you made a variant in the assetbundle window?

[knotty narwhal]

Is this how it normally looks

o boy I messed something up real bad that's for sure

Okay yeah I don't think that folder is supposed to be there?

oh god I'm creating an inception

I can't move the poor fella out, he's stuck there

I'm so sorry 😭

[outer pendant]

Yea I'm not sure what to do there
@sleek saddle ?

[grave lodge]

Well, I tried testing my moon & it crashed on land

Not sure why

There isnt any errors

[grave lodge]

I could send the logs, but i really dont see anything thatd be an issue

[outer pendant]

@grave lodge make sure terrain is set to draw instances and if you have a bunch of grass or other similar small details, disable their ability to cast shadows

[grave lodge]

Got it

The terrain might be the isue

Yuppp

Called it

ty!

[outer pendant]

Yw, if it's not instanced it's the problem 99% of the time 🤭

[grave lodge]

Got to keep that in mind pfft

Noooo

I thought using the paint holes for the terrain would work for making buildings go into the terrain without having weird clipping issues

but it only seems like it removes the collision

:((

[outer pendant]

?? Like, the holes disappear at runtime?

[grave lodge]

Yeah, atleast visually

They function as holes but still have the texture painted on

Comparison

What if I do a weird fix

I paint the areas with a invisible face texture and then paint the holes so even if it renders itd be an invisible face

Idk xD

[outer pendant]

Uhhh maybe? I have no idea lol

[grave lodge]

xD

Well, i'll see if it works xD

[outer pendant]

Report back!

[sour pier]

same thing happened to me

[grave lodge]

Yeah, i swear I clicked instanced but we all make mistakes xD

[green spear]

Guys, its been a while since i've been here
I have a new moon already started on a old version of asset ripper and LLL
Should i port my moon to newer version or something or just continue to make moon on that specific version?

[grave lodge]

cant make a blank texture for terrain layers :((

I have no idea why the holes are being holes

[outer pendant]

The newest version of Nomnom's patcher can re-patch in place. Just make sure to back up your existing project

[grave lodge]

Had anyone found a way to make holes in their terrain?

Since apparently the paint holes thing doesnt work at all

Alright

So i came up with an idea, I am going to make the terrain a mesh & then manually remove the faces I dont need to make holes

[outer pendant]

Oh you have terrain2mesh?

[grave lodge]

nope xD
but ill figure it out

[outer pendant]

oh lol

there are some free methods but Batby said they're finicky

so let us know if you figure it out, you can make a tutorial 🤭

[grave lodge]

if only the paint holes thing actually worked T-T

Trying something that isnt what I said xD

Figured it out!

Theres a setting in project settings that renders terrain holes or not

[outer pendant]

Oh nice, what's the setting for anyone else that wants to do so?

[cerulean ember]

I set my SunwithShadow's temperature to 7000k，but the game kept reseting it to 4400k, any idea which script is doing this?

[knotty narwhal]

Iirc you have to enable terrain holes in the HDRP asset or some like that

I had to do it too since I have caves

[grave lodge]

HDRP > Rendering > Terrain Hole

[outer pendant]

The vanilla sun animation has its own color and temp keyframes

[cerulean ember]

Thanks, after reading your previous comment, I found out the animator was causing all of this. gonna have to remake one

[sour pier]

bet i actually needed that for something

[green spear]

Alright, ty

[unkempt gale]

so i tried this and it was not possible the scene was even more buggy and i couldnt even move a thing so ill do it again from the beginning

or

could it be possible

because of version 50

?

[knotty narwhal]

I dreamt that I fixed my issue. I was pretty disappointed when I woke up lol

[outer pendant]

I'm not sure, but at this point it seems like remaking it would be quicker than continuing trying to debug

[unkempt gale]

yeah might be true but i guess ill wait for LLL update for version 50

[leaden shell]

what are SpawnDenialPoints?

[outer pendant]

Not 100% sure tbh. It's likely in the code somewhere and maybe prevents enemies or random map objects from spawning in its immediate area.

Of course, it's also possible it's a placeholder tag that wasn't fully implemented

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[leaden shell]

ok thanks

ill put them near areas where i dont want enemies to spawn

[cerulean ember]

@outer pendant I was pulling my hairout trying to find where the ambient music was coming from in the game, then I found out via reverse reference search that the game spawns a sound manager on launch and the outside ambient music is in there. But I can't access it in my scene, any idea how to deal with this? it kept overlaping with my current ambient music

[outer pendant]

It's unfortunately a hard-coded thing ATM, I'm not sure how to change it on the moon-creator side

[cerulean ember]

Ah thanks, I just found the script for it, its also played randomly, making things so hard to test lmao

[knotty narwhal]

Can’t loaforc’s sound api do what you’re trying to do? Not saying I know how by any means, but I think it can @cerulean ember

[leaden shell]

i categorize my gameobjects in my scene and it would just be stuck on seed screen and won't load it

all of the scan nodes work like they are would normally, but the door won't open

[outer pendant]

Sounds like a bug with your selectable level, maybe your map objects. Make sure nothing says "missing" or "none" in it

[leaden shell]

the selectable level is the problem, i'm trying moving the bushes and rocks out of the prefabs and just be on their own

also forgot to mention i deleted couple of prefabs that seemed unimportant, so maybe thats it

[cerulean ember]

How exactly do I publish my moon to thunderstore? I've only been building it directly into my game

[green spear]

Build your moon, take your lethalbundle files. It should be yourmoonname.lethalbundle and yourmoonnamescene.lethalbundle

Then you need to create manifest.json file and readme.md

You can create those by online creators, those are free

Lastly make icon for your mod

[cerulean ember]

Ahhhh TY SO MUCH

that should also include all my custom scraps right?

[green spear]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/create/docs/

[green spear]

Yep

If your moon uses it, then you should pack it up too

I don't know how LLL handles custom scrap rn

Just need to ask other

[green spear]

Here are the details of what your package should include

[cerulean ember]

Amazing, thanks

[green spear]

Np

[sour pier]

did figuriue it out?

[leaden shell]

no

[cerulean ember]

Is it normal for items just clip in ground like that? feels like my box collider is not working

[royal void]

do items even use colliders?

my understanding is that they pick a location to fall to based on a ray cast and then animate falling

I believe you need to set up your item to have a position and rotation offset

[leaden shell]

still trying diffrent things, but nothing works

[sour pier]

do you have something called MapPropsContainer

or something like that

[leaden shell]

i just added this, and it didn't change anything

[sour pier]

make sure u saved the scene

then built bundles

[leaden shell]

i saved, rn i'm disabling all of the rocks and bushes, because that's where it started to happen

[leaden shell]

it worked before

after disabling all the rocks and bushes it works now, but i still want these

[leaden shell]

i've fixed it i just used broken models that somehow prevent from entering the level

[cerulean ember]

Anyone have a guide on how to install/use the Unity explorer? I've tried the BIE 5.X Mono, and the thunderstore version none works, also the Editor version kept giving out errors due to name mismatch

[cerulean ember]

LMAO I did not know unity explorer had to be used in the actual game, I thought unity editor was sufficient

[unkempt saffron]

Does anyone know what causing the dungeons to be more dark than the outside? Because on my map it seem to be less dark than on vanilla maps and it's kinda anmoying

[green spear]

Perhaps your global light and fog settings

Try changing it to a local
In your global lighting and fog object you should find a dropdown menu where you can change its way of rendering from global to local, then you just need to add a box collider and adjust the position of boundaries

Try if it works

If that's not the case, then you need to search further

[unkempt saffron]

That was this! thanks! :)

[knotty narwhal]

I still haven’t figured it out lol

My map just won’t work at all

[knotty narwhal]

There doesn’t seem to have any actual folders in my files

I can create more but I can’t go back

[golden osprey]

Had same issue. Batby explained a fix here #1210653206225363018 message but I got very busy and haven't gotten to delve into it. I'm also not that knowledgeable in asset bundling in the first place. Theoretically Audio Knight should also know how to manage this.

[leaden shell]

I still don't know why this error occurs, but I managed to fixed by moving 'Plane' out of 'Environments'. The game cannot generate nav meshes on the thin side of the 'Plane'.

[golden osprey]

Oh? Let me see if I actually have something like that

[golden osprey]

No dice unfortunately. Going to see if I can get it working by not building the main mod lethal bundle and then building it later or something

[golden osprey]

Okay might have it

Batby was right just didn't comprehend what was meant at the time

[cerulean ember]

I realized all my custom scraps for my moon disappear after a reload while the vanilla scraps stay, how do I fix this?

[sour pier]

is there a easy way to figuire out duplicates in folder

since i still have the issue

[hot furnace]

at 14:00 it says to create terrain
If I already have terrain I can just use that and it wont matter id assume right

[golden osprey]

Yes as long as it is set to "Draw Instanced" in the terrain settings

[hot furnace]

its a blend file how would I turn it into terrain?

[golden osprey]

Oh that's what you meant. Idk if you can turn models into actual terrain because Unity terrain is a very specific object with distinct properties from regular models. With that being said, you don't really need terrain on a moon, so you can use your model as is. You just won't be able to manipulate it in the same way as terrain.

[hot furnace]

I dont intend on changing anything about it on unitys end

I dont think it bakes a nav mesh tho so uhh

[golden osprey]

The environment object is what lets you bake the navmesh. Any child object of the environment will have a navmesh baked onto it.

[hot furnace]

oh oops

[golden osprey]

If you take your Blender model, add collision to it, and have the Environment from project setup parented to it, you'll be all set when you bake the navmesh

[hot furnace]

in the console lethal level loader says it loads my stuff
no errors in the console
trying to type moon name into the terminal just makes it say data corrupted or overwritten
any idea what I managed to mess up

[unkempt saffron]

Is there one of the global lighting needed to make the default light in the dungeon? Because now the dungeon is completly dirk when there isn't lights

[green spear]

I have no clue

[outer pendant]

I've never seen that happen before lol

Are you testing in a sterile profile?

[hot furnace]

yea its brand new

[outer pendant]

Post some screenshots of whatever errors/weird messages pop up when you can

[hot furnace]

this is literally all I have

and maybe this but this could be unrelated

[outer pendant]

Yea that error is an unrelated base game thing

It says it's loading the scene lethalbundle, but what about the other one?

[hot furnace]

huh

[outer pendant]

You need two bundles. One that has just your scene(s) marked for bundling, and the other has your extended level(s) marked for bundling

Or selectable level

I'll check in a min

[golden osprey]

PETRICHOR V?!?!?!

This is so hype

[hot furnace]

oh do I have to add the uhh asset bundle to the extended level? It didnt mention that in the tutorial unless I somehow missed it

im not super experienced with unity so I thought when in the tutorial the folder got marked it would do eveyrthing inside

[hot furnace]

does bro know

[golden osprey]

Oh I know

[hot furnace]

currently the textures are uhh yea

and its all white

even tho in blender its fine

but im gonna worry about that later

[golden osprey]

Yeah things can look off between modeling software, unity editor, and actual in game tests

[hot furnace]

the voices

[golden osprey]

It's good timing that v50 basically is adding ||Stone Golems|| for moons like this

[hot furnace]

oh true

[golden osprey]

Ayoo

[hot furnace]

not naming it titanic plains btw

using its internal name

[golden osprey]

Fair enough

[hot furnace]

because that will make it annoying to type out with titan probably

no textures + I fall through the map

real

in blender the textures are real but unity is like nuh uh

[golden osprey]

In terms of enemy equivalents, we have:
||Golems|| = ||Old Birds||
Eyeless Dogs = ||Blind Vermin||
Manticoils/||Tulip Snakes|| = ||Blind Pests||
Hydrogeres = ||Gups||
Maaaaybe Circuit Bees = ||Jellyfish||
Hoarding Bugs = ||Beetles||
Leviathan = ||Worms||
Maaaaybe Baboon Hawks = ||grounded Alloy Vultures||
Giants = ||Parents||

[hot furnace]

real

gonna setup the enemy pools once I fix the major issues of uhhh:

• textures not working
• navmesh not working
• no collider

[golden osprey]

Did you try adding a mesh collider to your "terrain" model

[hot furnace]

oh I have dementia

I meant to do that but didnt

now I just need textures + nav mesh to bake onto it

does unity not like more complex blender nodes

because thats what I have

[golden osprey]

Nav mesh should work when collider is on

After baking*

[hot furnace]

I tried it again and it didnt appear to bake

[golden osprey]

Not sure about Blender specific stuff, I only did Maya

[hot furnace]

wait do I have to set a mesh in the mesh collider even tho I added it under the model so true?

[golden osprey]

Just to make sure, you have the nav mesh visual setting checked on right? And the terrain is grouped under the Environment?

You shouldn't need a mesh as long as the collider is added as a component to your custom terrain prefab thing

[golden osprey]

Is the blue navmesh visual underneath the surface a little bit maybe? Sometimes it clips underneath in some models

[hot furnace]

I dont see nothin no matter the angle

im so confused why the textures wont work tho

I know unity can be crabby about shader nodes in blender but i feel like this really isnt that much

[golden osprey]

Are there bound walls overlapping the entire map maybe? Also you could maybe toss in a basic cube with collision and see if the navmesh work on it just to test your baking and narrow down where the issue is

With the texture I'm honestly not sure. Make sure your model is set to HDRP/Lit maybe

[hot furnace]

how can I make sure it is

also bounds walls are fine I moved them out

[golden osprey]

It's going to take me a bit to set up Unity and show you, can you send me a screenshot of the details panel with your model selected?

[golden osprey]

Ah okay, now I remember. Do you have any materials set up by chance

[hot furnace]

yea

in blender

I also realized the model has so much stuf below it that its gonna clip into the facility but I can easily fix that later lmao

[golden osprey]

So no materials imported to unity yet like the one selected here?

[hot furnace]

yea its just the blender file no materials
you can click this little arrow and it shows all the meshes + materials but they dont have stuff on them for some reason

[golden osprey]

Hmm, this is really out of my area of expertise in a couple ways, but one last thing rq

So with those materials, they need to have HDRP as their shader (as seen at top). From there, you will likely need to add in textures manually (base map is your albedo/main texture). But if your actual textures aren't showing up either I'm not sure how to go about this.

[hot furnace]

they all hav ethis

[golden osprey]

Dang, that's about as much as I got then with experience in these issues unfortunately

[hot furnace]

normally I would just create new materials in unity

however that wont work

due to how weird risk of rain does there textures

I have to make some jank blender node setup

to attempt to make the textures actually apply properly

[golden osprey]

Yeah dealing with specific game assets and getting it to transfer properly gets into some weird stuff that I'm not really familiar enough with Blender to know about

[hot furnace]

In theory it should just work

[outer pendant]

idr exactly how I did it in the tutorial, but select your ExtendedLevel, mark it as one bundle, select your scene, mark it as another bundle, and then they should auto-bundle whatever they respectively need

[hot furnace]

I got that part working now yea

[sour pier]

nope

the asset bundling part was the most stressful part for me in the tutrioul lmao

[hot furnace]

To make it functional it’s just

• fix textures
• fix nav mesh not baking

So close

[sour pier]

whats wrong witht he navmesh?

[hot furnace]

it just doesnt bake

[outer pendant]

is your terrain nested under the Environment game object, and is it in the room layer?

[sour pier]

also make sure ur bound walls arent covering your terrain that happened to me once

[hot furnace]

they arnt covering I checked

[hot furnace]

yes and yes

it is a blend file like I mentioned so do I have to do something silly

[outer pendant]

Do you mean an fbx? Isn't a blend file a blender project?

[hot furnace]

should I have exported it as an .fbx? ever time ive modded in unity ive always been able to use .blend files just fine

[outer pendant]

I didn't think unity took blend files, but every asset I use is an fbx

before that tho

if you click on your mesh, make sure it's read/write enabled

if that doesn't work, then try the fbx export instead

I'll be away from my pc for a bit, so good luck!

[hot furnace]

where do I check that

[outer pendant]

Clicking on the asset itself, not the game object, should bring up import settings in the inspector

[hot furnace]

it didnt have readwrite so I reimported it as that

and made some other changes

but now the ship doesnt even bake

the arrows appear but none of the blue stuff that normally appears on it

[sour pier]

okay

my unity editor is messed up

the whole scene is just black

I also cant select anything either

ok so I just doubled clicked somewhere but my camera is super weird

cant change my fov

like my thing is so weird

I am in a different viewer or something

very much need help this is so bizarre

fixed it

[outer pendant]

Idk about the black scene, but top right of the scene window you accidentally changed to iso

[sour pier]

I did a full reset in the layout window

[outer pendant]

Click iso and you'll change back to perspective

[sour pier]

what is iso, also it wanst a black screen, just a weird perspective

ye it was the iso, I freaked out lol

[outer pendant]

Iso is short for isometric, it's a style of camera view. All good?

[sour pier]

yep thank you

if anything great, my dungeon generation is going great, my interior is starting to look good

[hot furnace]

ive deadass spent so long trying to make my mesh actually collidable and bake the nav mesh

[sour pier]

what was the issue with the mesh?

[hot furnace]

I still dont know

its not fixed

[sour pier]

what is ur goal?

[hot furnace]

???

[hot furnace]

wdym

[sour pier]

I can try to help but I don’t get what the mesh isn’t working

[hot furnace]

I fall through the floor

and it also doesnt bake the nav mesh

[sour pier]

Like your terrain?

[hot furnace]

yea

[sour pier]

Maybe try remake it, does the navmesh only not work on that terrain?

[hot furnace]

its a blend file

becasue its external terrain

i think im just gonna make a new scene and start fresh

[unkempt gale]

why some terrain textures got removed from the assets?

[sour pier]

Hmm

Did u add the mesh collider properly

And click convex

[sour pier]

In blender try baking ur terrain into a height map,and then use that height map in unitys terrain system

[cinder wasp]

any specific steps to make a project using thee tutorial video use the v50 version of LLL?

[cinder wasp]

that's troublesome. every un-combined mesh in the scenes was obliterated when the project patcher was re-run

the meshes that survived have been scrambled

ah yes. door. how does this even happen

[outer pendant]

Replace the old LLL dll with the experimental one and add this to the project alongside the other plugins https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MaxWasUnavailable/LethalModDataLib/

[cinder wasp]

what's it for?

[outer pendant]

New LLL dependency

[cinder wasp]

should i add it to tools/plugins/bepinex too?

[valid umbra]

Just download it

On thundersrore

[cinder wasp]

that does not sound like adding it to the project

[outer pendant]

Yes, put it alongside the other project plugins from the tutorial

[valid umbra]

Misread whay you were trying to do lol

You could alternatively toggle ignoring references

[cinder wasp]

is there any way to fix all the meshes being mulched

[spark ferry]

hi! idk if this has been asked elsewhere already but is it possible to add new tiles/rooms to existing facility/mansion maps using nomnom's patcher without needing DunGen or is DunGen needed for the new tiles/rooms to work/be recognized?

[outer pendant]

probably not, you should have saved the split meshes somewhere in your own folder :B

[outer pendant]

I'm not sure how that would work tbh, but all I cover here is moon-making, not interiors. You can try asking in https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1206155878647078912, but as always I won't guarantee you'll get a useful response

[spark ferry]

ah i see will ask there thnx thnx!

[cinder wasp]

what the hell are you doing why are you orange

[grave lodge]

New materials & stuff were added in LC v50 so it messed up materials & stuff

I had the same thing happen xD

Unless you arent in a v50 project

[cinder wasp]

i am

[grave lodge]

yeah, then thatd be why

you can just simply change the material

Its material.001 that is changed iirc

should just the material over when selecting

[valid umbra]

@outer pendant imma start this in a bit, anything i should know that isnt in the videos?

[outer pendant]

Check the pinned comment, make sure you click "Draw Instanced" on your terrain settings, and if you wanna put down a bunch of grass or other foliage, turn off their shadows in their mesh renderer

[valid umbra]

bet

[outer pendant]

And ofc feel free to pop back if you have any questions

[valid umbra]

ik @dry kettle loves making scripts that add to stuff as well, i wonder if anyone's made a list of stuff like that anywhere

[topaz nymph]

@outer pendant Im about to take a swing at replicating the disco ball again for lethal casino. Do you think you might have a second to look at it with me?

I figured you would probably know best about pulling it and then replicating it in a mods scene

[outer pendant]

Unfortunately I have some chores to take care of, but you can post and I'll reply when I can!
You should just have to pull the prefab of the disco ball into your scene and it should work though, unless I'm misunderstanding your goals

[topaz nymph]

Oh ok, good point. I just have to pull it into a different project. Are prefabs able to be pulled into a different project?

[outer pendant]

right-click on the prefab and "Export package"

then you can pull it into a different project no problem

[topaz nymph]

Oh dang, that would be alot easier then draging over all of the dependents wouldnt it haha

that is what I was starting to do

[outer pendant]

good thing I caught ya 🤭

[topaz nymph]

Lol, trying to import it into the folder where I wanted to created 999+ errors

Odds are it might be easier to do by hand, because it is trying to take over a TON of scripts I dont think it needs

[outer pendant]

Oh when you export it, remove any scripts from the process. You can compare as needed to replace the scripts, or get the NG Script Recovery tool

But yea you don't wanna overwrite the scripts from one rip to another

[topaz nymph]

Yeah makes sense

[valid umbra]

@outer pendant

how do i get the whatchamacallit out of my eyes

the navmesh

[outer pendant]

bottom right of scene window

[valid umbra]

ty

[outer pendant]

ye

[valid umbra]

lol i like how a big part of the tutorail with doors and moving stuff around is invalidated by adamance

cuz that stuff is actually done well now

i didnt have to touch the doors and move em where they should be

ah, except the spawn blockers >:3

oh lol adamance doesnt have a story log

[outer pendant]

that's progress for ya 🤭

[valid umbra]

@outer pendant

do you know where i can find always refresh?

[outer pendant]

top right of scene window

[valid umbra]

pog ty

[outer pendant]

np

Heading to bed soon, so you'll be sans-Starlancer for a while :P

[valid umbra]

its alright, class starts in like an hour for me anyway lol

[outer pendant]

Terrain To Mesh is 50% off at $22.50, which could boost performance for some moons
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/terrain/terrain-to-mesh-195349

[golden osprey]

Sometimes with the assets I grab, I think that moon development is an expensive hobby, but at least I'm not into Warhammer or Legos or something super pricey like that.

[topaz nymph]

@outer pendant Yeahhhh... this discoball is not going to well haha

I cannot get it to port over to a different unity project

Original:

Transfered

[outer pendant]

you should turn off gizmos so the object is actually visible 🤭

[topaz nymph]

Lol im not really sure how to do that

It looks like something with the materials didnt get transfered over right

[outer pendant]

Just to make sure, you're in Unity Version 2022.3.9f1?

but they don't look all that different, your version just needs some smoothness taken off

[topaz nymph]

Yeah, the version is all good. I'm just not sure why it is glowing so crazy

It seems like all of the settings are the same too

It might just have something to do with the rendering options in this project

Bc the lighting is very harsh in our project but not that way in game

[outer pendant]

very possible

Did you set your project up using my moon tutorial?

[ornate wagon]

when trying to use AssetRipper on the folder with the lethalbundles in it

[sleek saddle]

oh sorry you misunderstood

i was vague off an assumption

download assetripper the program

not nomnom's tool using it

[topaz nymph]

We did something else a while back. Probably wouldnt hurt to do it another way now... But it works and we host it on github lol

I meeeannn its in there but something is a bit off lol

[outer pendant]

Even if you're not making a moon, I'd recommend using my tutorial to set up your project just so it has close parity with actual LC

[topaz nymph]

Yeah this issue with that is that we set it up in february when we first made lethal casino

So re-setting it up would probably break alot of stuffs

[outer pendant]

Have you used nomnom's patcher to rip your assets?

Or have you just been using regular AssetRipper?

[topaz nymph]

Yeah I used nomnoms patcher to have a working project of the actual game

[hot furnace]

shiny

shiny object

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[topaz nymph]

I cannot for the life of me figure out why it is so damn shiny lol

[hot furnace]

nuh uh its funny

keep it shiny

I need my shiny object

[topaz nymph]

Odds are it probably doesnt look like that in game. I should test

[hot furnace]

probably

[topaz nymph]

Because if it doesnt look like that in game, then it is fine. I just have to make it drop from the ceiling and turn off all the lights in the casino with a press of a button and then play disco music lol

[cinder wasp]

if i place an old bird prefab object, they're always active when the scene is loaded, and also tend to get stuck in this animation upon spawning which prevents them from doing much

[outer pendant]

Good to know lol

[grave lodge]

Try placing a oldbird nest prefab instead

Seemed to work alright for me

not sure if the old birds activate though, ill check

[cinder wasp]

where is that located?

[grave lodge]

LethalCompany > Game > Prefabs > EnemyAINestSpawnObject > RadMechNestSpawnObject

[cerulean ember]

Oh nice good to know

[grave lodge]

Any idea if its possible to have terrain settings be a default?

Like I dont want to check Draw Instanced everytime since I forget half the time

I dont even remember a lot of the other settings for the terrain xD

[green spear]

Idk, try to make a terrain prefab maybe XD

Idk if it would work, but go ahead

[grave lodge]

I made a terrain data that is just the simple settings without any extra stuff and copied it over for new terrain datas it seemed to work

[sleek saddle]

scene templates exist

click new scene in top of unity, its got a cool menu

[grave lodge]

Woo

[leaden shell]

how to get v50 assets? i started making my mod before v50 (v47 or v49)

[valid umbra]

If you mean in the Unity project I made a pr with Eva's unity template, just check that pr and download it, should be v50

There's prolly better ways though

Like ik xilo has a template, dunno what it has on it though

[sleek saddle]

wha

why are you still using unity templates

[valid umbra]

Wdym

[sleek saddle]

what do you use from that template

[valid umbra]

oh the csharp assembly stubs probably

that's likely just it tbh

it doesnt really have much in it

[cerulean ember]

wait there is a template?

[valid umbra]

its not really a template, just something you can use with a blank state

but theres prolly better options seeing what batby's saying

though there is an example enemy template

and an example scrap template

[sleek saddle]

u dont need stubs cuz nomnom rip gives you the whole thing

[valid umbra]

Oh but I'm assuming there's no setup gitignore for the rip that'll ignore the important stuff? Though ig that wouldn't take more than a few minutes

[sleek saddle]

naurrr i dont think so

cool thing to ask @empty anvil

😛

[valid umbra]

@empty anvil do my work for me :3

[empty anvil]

I guess it would ignore the main sorted rip folder (Game I think), what else would need to be ignored

[valid umbra]

Assets, dlls, uh idk tbh I just follow example enemy's stuff

[empty anvil]

I can poke something tomorrow. Probably nab the default unity gitignore when running the patcher/add a button for it, and append it with custom stuff

[leaden shell]

i used nomnom's lethal company project patcher

[valid umbra]

i misread what you were asking for anyway lol, nomnom's patcher was what you needed

[leaden shell]

yeah but the v50 stuff

my moon cannot run on v50, thats what i want fix

i runned the patcher again but still

[sleek saddle]

you gotta wait for lethallevelloader update

[leaden shell]

ok thanks!

[empty anvil]

added it to the patcher, there is also a utility button for it in the foldout 👍

[valid umbra]

Yaay

[valid umbra]

@dry kettle what would be really cool is making a mini weather script, where it takes a particle system, creates sort of an umbrella with a specified radius, and it depending on what "weather" you specified it does things like lightning, rain, both, maybe fog.
I'll try making it in a few days if you aren't interested

I wanted to make my giant summon lightning bolts but for some reason some vanilla stuff was just corrupted so I couldn't properly copy the setup

[scenic sparrow]

I need help, i'm trying to use nomnom's project patcher but the log is FULL of errors, i can't even run the game in the editor, what do i have to do?

[mellow beacon]

Hello, @scenic sparrow, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[spark ferry]

hi noob question here, if i edit a dungeon tile prefab, moon prefab, or any other prefab and include that in the zipped bundle to be uploaded to thunderstore, will the modding framework recognize that it's an edited prefab and replace the original or do i have to script it to replace the original? or is this what LethalLevelLoader supposedly does already?

[sleek saddle]

moon prefab?

[spark ferry]

whoops that's not the best example cuz the moons aren't prefabs, but yea any gameobject prefab hahaha

[sleek saddle]

not your examples

but if your SelectableLevel references enemies in its spawn pool lists

LLL will auto replace those yeah

and stuff like that

oh actually

i misread your question

no

LLL does the opposite

if you reference content from the assetrip, LLL will replace that reference with the real thing

[spark ferry]

ohhh so if i want to for example edit the Level3Vow scene or the 4x4BigStairTile prefab for something more simple to start modding rather than create new moons/interiors, then i shouldn't use LLL yet?

[sleek saddle]

probably yeah

your free to make an edited version of a vanilla level and make that like custom level though

[spark ferry]

that's true i guess hahaha

thnx thnx!

[leaden shell]

can anybody help? enemies on my map doesn't attack (and everybody can see the dress girl)

[sour pier]

Ayo

[unkempt gale]

somebody got from the v49 project the grass terrain asset?

[sleek saddle]

@outer pendant heads up looks like moon devs will need to adjust their foggy variables

for v50

[outer pendant]

Yea, var1 and var2 correspond to min and max fog distance for foggy weather

[golden osprey]

Gotcha thx moon overlords

[green spear]

Only?

[outer pendant]

That's my understanding yeah. There's still no way to adjust the size of the fog volume

[raw oriole]

@sleek saddle Is there any way to swap vanilla moons in the latest update? And if there isn't, where would be a good place to patch that wouldn't completely bork what LLL does lol

[sleek saddle]

are you a programmer homie

[raw oriole]

ye

not a unity one though, this has been quite a learning curve lol

[sleek saddle]

anything after StartOfRound.Awake() should be fine but ill say maybe RoundManager.Awake() Postfix just to be sure

can get a list of vanilla levels in LethalLevelLoader.PatchedContent.VanillaExtendedLevels

and then you can play with ExtendedLevel.SceneSelections

which is the assocciated string scenename, int rarity used for each level

[raw oriole]

baller, alrighty, thank you lol, i'll start messing with that then

[cerulean ember]

how do I update the LLL in unity again? do I just use that video and rip everything one more time?

[green spear]

i swear to god

does anyone knows how does the mesh of shipping containers looks like?

[outer pendant]

The item drop ship?

[green spear]

no

ship containers that are present at the company

[outer pendant]

Ohh

[green spear]

red and blue

i can't find this shit in mesh list

and im not really into splitting it from combined mesh 💀

[outer pendant]

Why not?

[green spear]

sometimes splitting something from combined mesh doesn't work

eg: shipping containers loses its rubber

[outer pendant]

Ahh gotcha, if you want I'll link you to the ones I use on Auralis

[green spear]

those aren't vanilla ones?

[outer pendant]

Nope

[green spear]

dang it

[outer pendant]

Auralis was made before splitting combined meshes was available lol

The asset is free tho

[green spear]

sure, you can link me it

[outer pendant]

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/environments/industrial/free-shipping-containers-18315

[green spear]

thanks

[green spear]

can't test my moon in game

cause

everytime i try to launch lobby

even in LAN

💀

wth

[green spear]

also, my moon doesn't load again

geez

[sour pier]

Oh yea thats annoying

where is 3d hdrp

[sour pier]

ty

[green spear]

@outer pendant can you show me in free time how does your extended level looks like?
I can't get my moon to exist at all and I have no clue what went wrong

[outer pendant]

This might sound silly, but if you recently re-patched, make sure your moon prefab isn't missing in your Selectable Level

[ancient meadow]

How does it work?(extended mod)

[outer pendant]

It's sort of like the root of your mod, where you can gather up everything. If one isn't bundled, LLL will create a temp one for you at runtime

To me, it's a nice way of only needing to mark one thing for a bundle (besides the scenes)

[ancient meadow]

I'll try this later

[green spear]

What are content tags

[outer pendant]

Ways to dynamically inject your mod into other content. Like say you have an interior you only want to appear on snow moons, or a scrap item you only want to spawn on forest moons, etc

[jolly pecan]

Gonna add all the wrong tags to my moons
Infernis is definitely a snowy moon

[outer pendant]

ur a butt

[green spear]

hm

[green spear]

wdym

[outer pendant]

Sorry, Planet Prefab

[green spear]

ah

[ancient meadow]

I thought it was the forest moon

[jolly pecan]

No it's the ocean moon

[green spear]

alright, my moon now loads