How to Make a Custom Moon in Lethal Company | Lethal Level Loader

[sour pier]

ok

If fixed the reverb issue

[sleek saddle]

u need landmine and turret in ur map objects

[sour pier]

how would I add that?

[sleek saddle]

SelectableLevel

[sour pier]

uh

oh

I see what u mean

[royal void]

seems like that's a separate issue actually

[sour pier]

yea

[royal void]

it corresponds to this line:

GameObject gameObject = UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate(currentLevel.spawnableOutsideObjects[j].spawnableObject.prefabToSpawn, position2 - Vector3.up * 0.7f, Quaternion.identity, mapPropsContainer.transform);

[sour pier]

I just took titans

selectable level

and changed a few sthings

[sour pier]

hm

so something is messed up in my scene?

[royal void]

do you have an object with tag MapPropsContainer set up? seems unlikely but good to rule that out

I would've expected it to error out sooner if that's not there

[sour pier]

Im not sure, but that sounds familaer

by tag do u mean the name of it?

[royal void]

nah, there's a specific dropdown on game objects that selects tags that it should have

it may also be named MapPropsContainer, though, I don't recall

[sour pier]

this?

by what u mean by tag?

[royal void]

yeah, that

[sour pier]

yea im not finding anything called maprpopscontainer

[royal void]

that's probably your issue then

looks like on Rend it exists under Environment/MapPropsContainer

you would simply add an empty object named MapPropsContainer and give it the MapPropsContainer tag and then it should work

[sour pier]

oh yea I was messing with rend so that must have messed it up

ty

oh I gotta add it to my moon not rend

[royal void]

yeah

[sour pier]

problem still happens

[royal void]

hmm

same stack trace exactly?

[sour pier]

I just copied and pasted it from rend

[royal void]

I mean the error

[sour pier]

and put it under enviroement

oh

let me double check

[green spear]

What is it used for BTW?
I have no clue why should i have one

[royal void]

it's basically a folder for objects that spawn after generation

[royal void]

ah, yeah, same stack trace

I would suggest checking whatever in the editor corresponds to spawnableOutsideObjects

[sour pier]

alr thx

also there is

this error too

pretty sure its the same thing too

[sour pier]

in my selectable level

should I just remove these things?

[green spear]

Oh

[sour pier]

actually

im dumb

I forget to click save scene

after adding the map prop thing

it works!

[royal void]

oh nice

[warm timber]

hi, It might be a duplicate but, I'm following the video and when I open the level scene, I see this. Is this okay?

I'm keep following the tutorial regardless but wanted to know if pitch black everything even on level scene was something normal.
edit: it was just scene exposure. For some reason it was set to 10.

[green spear]

damn

[sour pier]

im still confused on making a ladder

I split combined mesh

but then then the railing texture disspears

looks like this then

[green spear]

Just find the ladder model in mesh filter

[sour pier]

it still looks like that

nvm I got it

[sour pier]

how do I do that

[sleek saddle]

i didnt know you didnt know this but you do not need to do this

[sour pier]

oh alr thx

what was the object that lets you scan the main entrance

I remember it in the tutrioul

but I forgot what its called

nvm got it

almost done with the moon, only creature spawns left

[outer pendant]

what the heck bro

[sleek saddle]

😭

i reassign them anyway

the only thing you gotta care about

i forgot

the main entrance will be the lowest id

[outer pendant]

@grave lodge are you still having issues with your fire exits?

@sleek saddle for some reason all of hers are pointing to ID 3

[sleek saddle]

ingame?

[outer pendant]

yea, so they all lead to the same exit

[sleek saddle]

off the bat that smells like lethal expansion shenanigans ngl

but down to peep it

[outer pendant]

she's LLL-pilled off my tutorial

[sleek saddle]

yeah but LE does some weird stuff with entranceteleports if its installed

[outer pendant]

ahh mayhaps then

[sour pier]

I think I messed up the fire exits

ok nvm

I dont know what I did to trigger this error again

ughhh

[grave lodge]

Yepp

[grave lodge]

Dont have LE installed 🤷‍♀️

[sleek saddle]

can i get a log of when that occurs

[sour pier]

me or rosie?

[sleek saddle]

rosie

[grave lodge]

mb, ye hold on

[grave lodge]

Do you want the entire log file?

[sleek saddle]

ye

[grave lodge]

Alright, heres that

[sleek saddle]

whats the issue with your fire exits @grave lodge

[grave lodge]

The correct about of fire exits spawn in the interior, but they all lead to the first outside fire exit

& No enemies spawn in the interior

[sleek saddle]

Does this happen without cullfactory

[grave lodge]

ah, let me check

[last finch]

so i followed the video and used nomnom's patcher. seems like more than half the time i try to "launch" the game directly in the unity editor, the menu isn't responsive and i can't click on any of the menu buttons.
when it is reponsive, i'm unable to host a game (which i assume is because it automatically goes into online mode, since it complains about steam).
i have the patcher settings set to not skip the menu though, so why's it causing issues? 🤔

[grave lodge]

Your are right, all the issues are linked to CullFactory

Do you know how id add support to CullFactory?

[sleek saddle]

no clue

You misread ur log btw

[grave lodge]

I tend to do that xD

[sleek saddle]

Your entrance teleport ids are fine, your dungeon id was 3

which is correct

[grave lodge]

Well ig I didnt misread since I knew that, I just didnt know if that was fine or not xd

[outer pendant]

Actually I think I misread that lol

[sleek saddle]

0 - Facility
1 - Facility Large
2 - Mansion
3 - Yours

[grave lodge]

Ohhhh

[outer pendant]

I've been out most of the day so I was just looking on my phone

[grave lodge]

Got it

[outer pendant]

It sometime hangs on clicking playmode a bit, that's par for the course
It shouldn't even be able to go into online mode, but you should always click LAN

Are you using the experimental v5?

of Nomnom's patcher, I mean

[last finch]

it's just whatever is on the main branch

[last finch]

the issue for me is that it doesn't just hang for a bit, it's stuck like that even if i come back to it like 10 mins later

also for whatever reason it's not giving me the option to click online/lan, it just skips directly to the main menu (despite that option not being enabled)

wait

im a fucking idiot

i had faststartup in my bepinex folder this whole time

..........

i forgot i had it load my bepinex folder

[outer pendant]

lmaoooo at least now there's another thing to check for the future

[last finch]

😂 😭

it works so well now after i removed it

can't believe i didn't realize till now

[last finch]

does the mic not pick up audio by default when running the game via unity editor

is there a simple fix for that

[sleek saddle]

probably not

[last finch]

😔

[royal void]

this error would occur if your interior has a DoorConnection with one of the Doorways being null

no idea how that happened, but it definitely doesn't seem like it should be happening

probably something messed up in your tiles or doorways somewhere

I should probably make it warn instead of error when that happens, but it definitely seems like that's a sign that something else is going wrong in the interior

first thing I would check is that all your tiles have empty lists for AllDoorways, UsedDoorways, and UnusedDoorways

those being non-empty caused issues for LC_Office previously

[grave lodge]

Got it

What about Entrance & Exit doorways. Should those be empty too or does that matter less?

[royal void]

do you mean tiles that have entrances/exits in them?

[grave lodge]

Below Tile Bounds Override

[royal void]

hmm, lemme try and check

[grave lodge]

this tile doesnt have any but I know some of my tiles do

acutally

[royal void]

those seem like they're meant to be set up, yeah

[grave lodge]

nvm they dont huh

[royal void]

they aren't set by DunGen at generation time

I think this issue would specifically be related to AllDoorways though

[grave lodge]

Yeal

[grave lodge]

I have nothing in All Doorways in any of my tiles it seems

[royal void]

this is the code that sets up the final door connections

all their counts are 0?

since what I'm wondering is if one might have a null as an element

[grave lodge]

yep

[royal void]

not sure how that shows up in editor

gotcha, hmm

you don't Destroy() any of your doorways, do you?

[grave lodge]

No, I dont think so. I dont mess with the c# stuff other than registering a config and extended level

[royal void]

interesting, okay

if you feel comfortable, you could send me a copy of your mod as it stands with that error and I can try to debug it

something weird is going on here lol

[grave lodge]

story of my life with this stuff xD

[grave lodge]

yepp, like the packaged mod or the unity project?

[royal void]

just how it would be for r2modman is good

[royal void]

for posterity, looks like the issue was with a Doorway being in a LocalPropSet which selected to destroy a Doorway after the Tile had its lists populated

[green spear]

Am i able to change global Sky and fog volume while being outside and indoors?

For eg, having two volumes and switching between them

[outer pendant]

I think so? I know you can have multiple volumes with different priorities. If you mean linked to the time, then it'd just need to be a unique sunanimcontainer + animations

[green spear]

No, i mean when im inside facility, the global fog is Turned off and when im outside its on again

[outer pendant]

Ah, idk about turning it off/on, but what I'm trying in my moons (next update, I don't think the live version has this) is switching those global volumes to local and having one for outdoors and one for the dungeon root area

[green spear]

I mean, i could have two volumes, one without the fog

But am i able to switch them while entering facility?

[sour pier]

like wesleys moons does?

[green spear]

I wouldn't say that wesley's moons do that

Facilities had fog inside in each moon i already played

Which I dont like

[outer pendant]

With the method I mentioned, there'd be no switching, you set the bounds of the volumes manually (so for the interior you'd wanna oversize it to allow for larger dungeons)
As far as toggling a volume on and off with the entrance teleport, I don't know. There's some coding that disables the sun whenever you go inside, but that's the extent of what I've seen regarding that

[sour pier]

how do we change the interior? Like wesley does? Im pretty sure tolian has done it too, not like the actual interior, but adding or changing effects to the default ones. Like changing the lighting or adding particlies

[outer pendant]

You'd have to ask them, I'm just the moon tutorial guy lol

[green spear]

So, its better to add local fog?

[outer pendant]

I'm still referring to the main environmental volumes, not a local volumetric fog object

[green spear]

Oh

I was wondering what local does

So by setting it to local i can set its bounds where it generates?

[outer pendant]

Yep. This would also allow you to have special post-processing on your moon that doesn't affect the interior

[green spear]

That concludes everything I needed to know

Thanks

[outer pendant]

You're welcome :3

[grave lodge]

:o

I didnt know that!

[outer pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/in-a-world-of-pure-imagination-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-in-imaginary-world-fantasy-world-dream-world-gif-21430673

[sharp shuttle]

Hello, sorry it might have been asked a thousand times already, but now that I finished my moon and got my lethalbundles files, how do I export the map to thunderstore ? I saw a thing about lem files but I dont have any when building. Thanks in advance

[green spear]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/create/docs/

[outer pendant]

Lem bundles are only for lethal expansion
You'll bundle your lethalbundle files in with your mod following the documentation Danielus posted

[sharp shuttle]

So I put them with the manifest readme and icon then it's good ?

[outer pendant]

Yep, then zip it and upload it. It needs to be .zip, not .7z if you're using 7zip

[sharp shuttle]

thanks a lot that was a quick answer

[valid umbra]

yw

[sharp shuttle]

when trying to dl from thunderstore I get "Unable to resolve to a suitable thunderstore mod"

[outer pendant]

Does it tell you why?

[knotty narwhal]

I'm having a little issue. I want my texture to look like the first picture, but for some reason, when enabling the skybox, it gets much redder and I have no idea how to fix it.

I tried tweaking some settings for the sun but it still keeps that red tint

[outer pendant]

What do you have in your global volume?

[knotty narwhal]

this here?

I'm also unsure if I've accidentally disabled something importing in here

[ancient meadow]

??

[outer pendant]

Lemme see the sky volume instead, do you have volumetric clouds?

[knotty narwhal]

no clouds at all no

[outer pendant]

I see you were already on Horizon Tint, that would've been my next guess lol

[knotty narwhal]

yeahhh lol

it doesn't change anything sadly

[outer pendant]

Disable the components in your volumes until you find what's causing the change

[knotty narwhal]

I tried every component and even Sky Volume as a whole and nothing

I'm so confused

disabling lighting as a whole doesnt even fix it lmao

[valid umbra]

dunno how this works but changing the texture's colour itself to be less red doesnt help?

[knotty narwhal]

it changes every single texture to be redder

[outer pendant]

Try altering your fog colors

[valid umbra]

that does sound very annoying

also might help to know the exact effect, whether its actually making things redder or doing something like increasing saturation etc

[outer pendant]

Oh wait, it might be your exposure compensation in the sky volume

[knotty narwhal]

oh?

[outer pendant]

Whoops, that was Tolian's screenshot

[outer pendant]

What about your post processing volume?

[knotty narwhal]

disabling post processing here fixes it

so it's def the post processing

[outer pendant]

That's odd if it's bloom doing that, or do you have some other post-processing somewhere?

[knotty narwhal]

I don't recall adding any

unless something from LE made its way into LLL

[outer pendant]

Time to disable every object in the hierarchy until you find the culprit :P

[knotty narwhal]

pain

lol

but true

This is insanity

nothing fixes it

I have disabled everything

what kind of stupid setting have I tweaked

[outer pendant]

Did you mess with the scene camera exposure? Top right of scene window camera icon

[knotty narwhal]

I don't have it enabled sadly

[outer pendant]

Smh what have you done then 😔

[knotty narwhal]

I have no idea

https://discussions.unity.com/t/red-tint-on-every-model-materials-after-upgrading-existing-project-to-urp/252493

Looks like this guy has my problem, but no one found the solution lmao

I posted my question in the unity discord, let's hope someone knows

[outer pendant]

Good luck!

[empty anvil]

Check the lighting tab and see if its the runtime shadow color affecting it

[knotty narwhal]

this?

Disabling it removes all shadows but sadly doesn't fix my problem

[empty anvil]

The lighting tab

[knotty narwhal]

There is nothing in here. Is it normal?

This is what I was told in the Unity server

I'm starting to think that this is how Lethal Company works and I'm trying to change something that cannot be changed

Every moon gets that increase in contrast

maybe I am not meant to change it

[outer pendant]

You are meant only to suffer

I'll take a screenshot later with and without post processing on Auralis to see if I get a similar result

[knotty narwhal]

Yeah, it sure looks like it

[knotty narwhal]

Thank you Chief, I appreciate it 🤝

[golden osprey]

Add another post processing volume that cancels out the red tint :p

[knotty narwhal]

Damn, it is much more exposed indeed

[outer pendant]

Try messing around with this in your global fog

[knotty narwhal]

I mean I don’t mind keeping the high exposure too much, but imo the first pic looks less harsh on the eye

[knotty narwhal]

Alright let’s try this out ::) thank you

[knotty narwhal]

Color Mode wasn't ticked and putting it to Sky color doesn't change anything and Constant color changes the fog's color but doesn't affect my terrain at all

how in the hell am I even supposed to choose a color, it's so hard

this one will do

[outer pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/gg-gif-27092095

[knotty narwhal]

This one?

[outer pendant]

I think there's an object under Systems/Audio that has ambience in its name

[green spear]

yep

[warm timber]

Are there a way to use the water that appears when flooded on my moon so I can use it as sea?

Can't really find it on my own, with what seems to be water being purple error

[outer pendant]

@warm timber This is the pack that me and some others are currently using for water
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/2d/textures-materials/water/simple-water-shader-hdrp-207454

Ideally the actual built-in hdrp water would be used, but currently LC can't render it

[warm timber]

Ah, thank you!

[knotty narwhal]

this is definitely a moment in history. thank you guys so much @green spear @outer pendant

UHHH also huge sound warning

it's very loud

I'm so happy, I've been stuck on this for two weeks

[green spear]

no problem bro

[outer pendant]

Hell yea dude!

You got the colors like you want them?

[knotty narwhal]

the colors no, but I'll cope

I dislike the red tint on my sand texture, but I quite like it on everything else

It doesn't look bad at all in game when I think of it

It's somewhat worse in editor

[outer pendant]

Is it a terrain painted texture?

[knotty narwhal]

is there a way I could add keyframes to change the color of the sun through the day you think?

[knotty narwhal]

uhh

[outer pendant]

Absolutely

[knotty narwhal]

I think?

[outer pendant]

I think you can tint textures in the terrain painter

[knotty narwhal]

oh yes sorry it is painted

[knotty narwhal]

Is there a good resource like a video you'd recommend to learn how to do that? or is it pretty simple

I guess its just about adding keyframes in the sun settings? but I've only ever done that in Premiere Pro, not Unity lol

[outer pendant]

Nothing I can personally recommend. It's pretty much the same as in most video editing stuff. You add a property, then set keyframes. It also has a record function that lets you move to the frame you want to set your next keyframe, and then everything you adjust while recording automatically gets keyframed in

[unkempt gale]

can someone help me to make a custom storylog for my moon?

[mellow beacon]

Hello, @unkempt gale, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[outer pendant]

Just be sure to make a unique animator and animations, otherwise you'll mess up vanilla anims

[outer pendant]

Custom logs aren't yet possible, but they should be coming with the next LLL update

[unkempt gale]

Ahh okayy thank you

[outer pendant]

@knotty narwhal I'm stressing this btw lol

[knotty narwhal]

So it isn’t different from like props animations? I’ll watch a few video on Unity animation and I guess I’ll understand how pretty fast then :)) thank you

Oh

[outer pendant]

I'm pretty sure all unity animations follow the same principles

[knotty narwhal]

Alright I guess I’ll also learn how to do that with videos?

[outer pendant]

lmao

I saw that

[knotty narwhal]

Once I learn how to animate and use particles I’m releasing this bad boy

[outer pendant]

idk how possible that is, but most (if not all) properties you can adjust are keyframe-able I think

"that" referring to what you deleted

[knotty narwhal]

I have an idea on how to do this

From messing around too much

I learned from Spielberg that you don’t have to see something to believe it’s there

[outer pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/madagscar-penguins-kaboom-gif-9833865

[knotty narwhal]

[golden osprey]

The length of the day on your moon should be 22 minutes lol

(not actually though I think that causes some issues)

[outer pendant]

I'm not even sure if/how that setting actually works lmao

[knotty narwhal]

I'd like to make the sun rotate around my moon like 4 times in a day tho

I don't think that'd be impossible?

[sleek saddle]

i guess you could have your default sun be invisible then use animationevents to set a second one to a certain value?

[outer pendant]

It's certainly animatable, but it'd be a lil confusing bc of the time lol

You're also talking about having the source of direct light loop around, yea? Or just "a sun"

[knotty narwhal]

yeah both

day lights night lights day lights x4-5

with the sun actually moving too

[outer pendant]

A tricky aspect is that only one direct light can cast shadows at a time

And as far as I was able to find, the shadow toggle on direct lights is unfortunately non-animatable

My attempted solution was to disable the sun when it got below the horizon, but because the animation was controlling part of it, that meant it couldn't disable when going into the facility which left the inside hella bright

[knotty narwhal]

mmmmmm

and just increasing the speed of the sun isnt doable?

[outer pendant]

For one sun with shadows, it'd be easy. Just set two keyframes to make a full loop and copy paste until midnight. Multiple suns is where you'd run into issues with lighting

[knotty narwhal]

oh I don't want multiple suns

Just the same sun but rotating like 4x faster than normal

[outer pendant]

Oh then yea you should be able to just set some keyframes close together lol

[knotty narwhal]

Alright bet! I’ll have to actually fix my sun first lol

[unkempt gale]

i want to test my moon with my friends how they can play the moon?

[sharp shuttle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/create/docs/

You create a zip file with the files they say + your lethalbundles

and upload it and they'll be able to download it

[golden osprey]

And if you don't want to upload it yet, you can send them all the zip file, and you can all go to a profile -> settings -> import local mod and pick the zip file you made/downloaded

[unkempt gale]

sorry for that question but where can i find my lethalBundle files?

nvm i guess i found them

[unkempt gale]

it says this

[golden osprey]

You make a zip file with the required components here (it doesn't actually need it all for a local file, it's just more simple for uploading later).

To access the lethalbundle files for that zip, go to where the bundles are loaded from the Unity log when you package your bundles (Something along the lines of Assets->Lethal Company->Tools->BepInEx->IAmyBatby LethalLevelLoader [probably missed a step or 2 here])

Then you need to add 2 lethalbundle files to your zip file from here: The one for your mod, and the one for your actual level. You should have named them accordingly

[unkempt gale]

like this?

[golden osprey]

Yep that should be good as long as there aren't any errors in the manifest

You can go to the Thunderstore website and under the Developer tab there is a manifest validator to double check

You can also preview the README and CHANGELOG in that tab but that's unnecessary right now.

For ensuring you have the required dependencies, I recommend downloading a moon mod file from the Thunderstore website directly to your computer as a zip file and checking how they have their Manifest file set up. Just make sure it's a LLL moon with no weird stuff (Bozoros or Atlas Abyss for example)

[unkempt gale]

it loads now but ill get this error

[outer pendant]

You might have a mismatch with the scene name expected by the EL and your actual scene name

[unkempt gale]

so i have to rename something?

[outer pendant]

My bad, it's the Selectable Level script. The Scene Name here needs to exactly match the scene name of the moon you're loading

[unkempt gale]

omg my fault i changed the name of my scene thats why

now it loads without error

[outer pendant]

Great! :3

[unkempt gale]

Thank you <33

but my game crashes now everytime i load the moon in the normal game

wtf

now it loads

[outer pendant]

lmao it's very possible that there's something that is occasionally causing the crash. Make sure your terrain is set to Draw Instanced and that if you have a bunch of grass details that their prefabs have shadows turned off

[unkempt gale]

with draw instanced fixed it i guess

[outer pendant]

Nice!

[green spear]

when i paint LC trees onto my ground

they are rotated 90 degrees

so tehy lay on the ground

any way to change that?

[outer pendant]

LC meaning vanilla?

if so it's bc Zeekers didn't paint trees onto the terrains, he placed them down manually (aside from the random spawns)

you could duplicate the tree prefab and adjust its default rotation to work with the terrain painter I think

[green spear]

geez

[knotty narwhal]

Ohh the base game trees? Lmao

He’s motivated that’s for sure

[outer pendant]

There's really not that many trees tbh

The playable areas for vanilla moons are pretty small in comparison to most custom moons

[knotty narwhal]

Yeahhh true

Mine was going to be huge so I decided to make an area the size of a vanilla moon inaccessible

I don’t want people to get too lost or overwhelmed or they just won’t play it

[knotty narwhal]

So, what do I need to do in order to upload my moon? Export both my bundles, put them in a folder with an icon for the mod and that's it?

Do I have to write a manifest too?

[outer pendant]

Yee, and a readme

Changelog is optional iirc

[knotty narwhal]

perfect thank you ::)

[green spear]

release today maybe?

[knotty narwhal]

Lmaoo

I could

It’s all done

But I want to add some Easter eggs to make it stand out a bit

[knotty narwhal]

Ah damn it I forgot to add navmesh

I’m dumb

[green spear]

@knotty narwhal make sure to Bake occlusion area

[sour pier]

moon is stuck on waiting ship to land

doesent say generating world or anything

or the seed

nvm Ig ot it

[knotty narwhal]

Oh what’s that again

I completely forgot about it

[sour pier]

btw i was able to figure out how to change the lighting inside the imterior thanks to tolian. Def really nice to spice up the interior

[green spear]

https://youtu.be/DoHPx5RQ7P4?si=j8pGtrCXqNqSE_80

[valid umbra]

does it really boost the fps from 20 to 9000

[green spear]

Nope xdd
But it does boost performance really well if set properly

[knotty narwhal]

Thank you 🔥 can’t wait to play with 9000 fps lmao

[green spear]

XD

Basically
I recommend not only using occlusion area and LOD's but also to make a huge occlusion portal under the map, so when you're outside facility, the dungeon will be cut also

[royal void]

does that work? I don't know how it handles occludees at runtime

also not sure if dungeon stuff is set to be occludees

I think Unity uses potentially visible sets for occlusion culling, and only bakes that information in the editor, so I wouldn't expect that to do anything, but I may be wrong

[green spear]

Honestly i dont know, but i do it just in case

[outer pendant]

Occlusion portals can be set open and closed at runtime, so it should be able to cull anything across it even if it's newly instantiated I would think. Easy enough to check tho, I'll test it with my interior generation setup and see if it'll cull properly

[royal void]

would be interesting to see, but those occlusion portals are a part of the potentially visible sets afaik

as in, it creates some portals with PVSes itself and then (presumably) assigns some PVSes to the manual occlusion portals as well

[outer pendant]

I'll report back in prolly a half hour with the results

[royal void]

worth noting that the Occlusion Portals documentation says that you have to bake it after creating the component

my guess would be that the PVS portals are created on a grid and then any that intersect an object with an occlusion portal will bake multiple PVSes that are swapped at runtime

[outer pendant]

Yea that makes sense, and corresponds with the test I just ran. However, I think it's still worth having one so that being inside the facility can occlude the exterior. Idk how exactly camera render distance culls, but it doesn't hurt to have one

[royal void]

I don't know that creating one of those actually affects whether the exterior gets culled, the purpose of occlusion portals is to change whether some part of the map is visible through the portal via a script

based on my reading of their blog posts about occlusion culling, I think as long as the game knows that the camera can exist under the map and the backface threshold is set to 100, it should cull all occludees on the surface

[sour pier]

is this in the editor

or ingame?

[green spear]

In editor

You prepare it in editor so in game you have occlusion culling

[royal void]

probably the main way to make absolutely sure that it culls the surface would be to make an extremely large quad block visibility of the terrain just below the surface, then you can use the debugging tools to determine whether it's properly determining the depth

https://blog.unity.com/engine-platform/occlusion-culling-troubleshooting-unity-4-3

[sour pier]

so the performance boost will happen in game is what I am saying?

also could someone help me try to fix my main entrance por favor?

for some reason

I can only enter from the right side

and a mimic spawns half way in height

[green spear]

Yep

[green spear]

Check your collider size and its position and adjust if needed

[green spear]

There is and object that determins where player should be placed after leaving, make sure to set its position correctly

[sour pier]

alr thank you!

so uh

my game goes like this

when I hit the lever

I can still hear and scan

but when i click esc I cant see anything but that screen but I can move my mouse

cursor

i can still exit out

I cant find any errors

I only have these warnins but I always did

[green spear]

@sour pier show me your dungeon setting in selectablelevel object

[ancient meadow]

new moon?

[sour pier]

yep almost done with it

once I fix this issue

[sour pier]

alr

[sour pier]

under which section

[green spear]

:v

dungeon

its size

type

etc

[sour pier]

ohh im dumb you mean the selectablelevel section im stupid

[green spear]

have you modified dungeon generation under systems>dungen?

or something

[sour pier]

yea

[green spear]

what properties did you changed?

[sour pier]

I added a box volume to level generation root

but it worked fine when I first changed it

[green spear]

are you using unity's terrain?

[sour pier]

the only changes I remember doing was changing the entrance teleport, I deleted the one I had and I replaced it with one from rend and combined everything from the tutrioul

[sour pier]

yep everything was working fine before my recent build

[green spear]

do you remeber what changed in this build?

[sour pier]

pretty sure it was only the enterance teleport

I remember adding a new prefab as well, but even when I removed that the issue still happens

[ancient meadow]

Can I see the screenshots?

[green spear]

show me your entrances

[sour pier]

its not very high quality lol

[sour pier]

alr

[sour pier]

thats the one I added

[sour pier]

I am gonna replace the bridge model with a new one I got

I am gonna make it darker and add some fog

[green spear]

how about the name of fire exits?

[sour pier]

@green spear

[green spear]

weird

[sour pier]

also everything was working fine untill I changed the fire exit unless I messed something up by accident

that I didnt realize

[green spear]

anything other have been changed in this build?

[green spear]

do you remeber what you have changed?

[sour pier]

not that I know of

[green spear]

try looking at those fire exits

maybe you'll spot something that may lead us to answer

[sour pier]

alr

[sour pier]

fire exits look fine to me

is there a way I can revert back to the old scene or something?

[green spear]

only if you have backup or spaming ctrl + z

💀

[sour pier]

I could maybe spam ctrl z

[green spear]

have you baked occlusion area maybe?

[sour pier]

nah i didnt do the occulision tutrioul since performance on my moon was already really good

and I was lazy

oh snap

[green spear]

try to build your scene once again but make sure to remove old files and also try testing it in game rather than in editor

[sour pier]

I fixed it

[sour pier]

yep I just did that

[green spear]

what was the issue?

[sour pier]

I dont know even know lol

I just built it and prayed the LC gods would make it work this time 💀

[green spear]

maybe there was no issue other than corrupted build for some reason

[sour pier]

probabaly but its weird that happened twice
lesson learned: make a backup scene before any major chanegs

the blue lights do work in the interior

[sour pier]

I will send some in game screenshots later

it looks much better in game with the lighting and fog

[sour pier]

@ancient meadow

its def not amazing, but its my first time ever using unity

[ancient meadow]

look nice

[sour pier]

thx

I made a mistak

the dungeon spawns down there

so you can see the rocks and stuff where the dungeon is

if I move the dungeonroot will issues happen

[outer pendant]

Moving it can conflict with the backrooms mod, but it won't cause any base game errors

[royal void]

it's probably best to only move it horizontally, I believe Batby is planning to make its vertical position automatic

[sour pier]

yea I can move it horizonatally

[sour pier]

whiich thing should I move

[sour pier]

rip I dont really play with the backrooms mod and its kinda dying

[royal void]

probably LevelGenerationRoot, but you can confirm by checking which is the first ancestor with a non-zero local position

[sour pier]

ty

[unkempt gale]

yo my friend is trying to make his own moon but everytime he launches the game in unity he gets this textboxes

[green spear]

Lol

[sour pier]

i think i have icons enabled

[empty anvil]

You can lower the size of 3d gizmos in the topright (if in scene mode), otherwise you can disable them in top-right in game mode

[unkempt gale]

okayy thanks

[knotty narwhal]

I'm having a really hard time with my sun :/

It takes 3 minutes before there's any lights on my moon and I've set every parameter to the prefab ones

it looks like this in the editor, but in game it's like the second pic

wait do i need my direct, indirect and moon to be at Rotation X= 0

nah that doesn't make sense

[sour pier]

I realized that there is no time in my moon

world

like the UI box that tells you the time

also is there a mod that just lets me fly or something

so I can go to the areas i need to test fast

[valid umbra]

i use devtools

or the dev essentials modpack

[sour pier]

is there flight tools in that?

[valid umbra]

kinda yeah

[sour pier]

alr thx

also do you guys know what object is accsoiated with time?

[outer pendant]

In your selectable level, make sure you have "Has Time" or something similar ticked

[sour pier]

ty

[outer pendant]

Was it missing?

[sour pier]

nope

I had it ticked

I did remove some sunlight stuff under lighting

is it that?

[outer pendant]

I don't think so, is the clock missing just in the editor?

[sour pier]

no in game

I dont use the editor cause its broken for me

[outer pendant]

Hmmm, did you alter the sample scene relay in your project? Bc the moon itself shouldn't have anything to do with the UI in this case

[sour pier]

maybe I did how where would I find that?

[outer pendant]

It's one of the scenes, but if you don't know then you probably didn't lol
Are you testing with just the necessary mods?

[sour pier]

nope

let me test that

[sour pier]

yea issue still happens with necassary m ods only

[knotty narwhal]

btw I fixed my issue by just deleting the keyframes and making my own

Buuuut I can't find reliable info online on how long an in game day is

is it 11 or 12 minutes?

[valid umbra]

why do you need to know the time?

im pretty sure most things relating to time use percentages

or graphs

[knotty narwhal]

I want to time an event on my moon at a specific time

Animations use time don't they

[valid umbra]

yeah just use an animation curve or whatever its called and make it percentage based

@outer pendant or @jolly pecan might know further on that

[sour pier]

well I mean when someone is playing the game

its pretty important to know the time

[valid umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-lumine-facepalm-gif-25468307

[knotty narwhal]

but why

[sleek saddle]

no

Audioreverbtriggers

Do the clocc

[valid umbra]

cuz thats how the base game does things afaik lol

[sour pier]

?

[outer pendant]

Why is it always those things

[knotty narwhal]

that's fair, but a curve doesn't help me know when 11:33 in game is, that's all I meant

[valid umbra]

it kinda would, game runs inbetween 8am and 11:59pm, you'd just have to find the percentage that 11:33 is in lol

[knotty narwhal]

I understand what you mean

I just thought using actual time would be easier

[sour pier]

i dont remember really chaning that

[royal void]

if it's a one-time thing, you may want to look at the TimeOfDay class

I'm pretty sure that's what updates the time and spawns enemies according to the time of day

and if it needs to be an animation, you can probably update the animation progress according to the current time and maximum time from that class

[knotty narwhal]

Is there a way to make switches between audio tracks more smooth? Like with a gradual transition between both?

[sour pier]

are u talking to me or binder

[royal void]

binder

the ship triggers are a likely candidate though for your case

[sour pier]

could u elaborate a bit por favor

[royal void]

the game has to know when you leave the ship, so it has some colliders that trigger the player to be considered to be outside the ship

those exist in each moon afaik, not attached to the starting scene

[sour pier]

oh I get it, but I dont see whats the issue with mine

[royal void]

one way that I know of to check that would be to see if any of the ManualCameraRenderer.cams remain enabled when you leave the ship balcony while still facing towards it

can check that with UnityExplorer, none of those cameras should be enabled when you're outside the ship if the triggers are working

can check that by looking at the UnityEngine.Camera class's allCameras field, or just search for all ManualCameraRenderer instances to manually check each camera

[sour pier]

alr ty

I cant even lie im still confused

[royal void]

about how to check it?

[sour pier]

yea

[royal void]

have you used UnityExplorer yet?

[outer pendant]

The AudioReverbTriggers outside of the shipnavmesh objects have a bunch of settings in them that control several basegame mechanics. Cross reference your current group with a vanilla one, or just copy over a vanilla set and clear any audio changes out of them

I recommend cross referencing though, so you can see what's different

[sour pier]

never heard of it

[sour pier]

alr thx

I dont remember touching the audioreverbtriggers tho thats the thing, but will still see whats different

[royal void]

it's a mod, a very useful one for debugging

lets you inspect every object and component in the game

[sour pier]

alr let me add it

[royal void]

it kind of serves a similar purpose to the Unity editor, but I find it to be more useful in some situations due to the fact that it uses reflection and can show you private fields and call any functions

[sour pier]

sounds useful, will probabaly install it once I start my next moon, I already want to just be done with the one im working on, im so tired of looking at it now lol

[sour pier]

so when I paste in the audireverbtriggers from vow, it says something about network object it also renames the numbers

also the only changes I see is that I changed the audio to 0

[outer pendant]

Make sure you paste it under the Environment object

[outer pendant]

Try checking the AudioReverbPresets under System against the ones from Vow

[outer pendant]

That's a correct step

[sour pier]

I will check tomorrow, I need to go somewhere but also I had a cube stop casting a shadow

would that make a difference?

in the issue

[outer pendant]

Not for the clock issue

[sour pier]

yep presets is the same

[outer pendant]

Specifically whichever preset has Outside in its name

Quintuple check it lol

[knotty narwhal]

OH

[sour pier]

im just gonna copy and paste it

from vow scene

[sour pier]

alr for some reason when i paste it from vow into my scene even under enviroment, it goes into the wrong posistions and have the wrong names

when i try pasting it in

also when zaggy was talking about it being a 1 time thing, It wasnet a 1 time thing it happened everytime im on that moon

[sour pier]

also how would I add custom music

[royal void]

hmm? I didn't think I implied it was a one time thing, my bad if I phrased it like it was

[sour pier]

u said it here

oh you said if

[royal void]

that wasn't related to the triggers

I was talking to binder about their sun animation thing or whatever they were trying to do

[sour pier]

oh cause the wording of our problems are similar

[royal void]

yeah

[sour pier]

well im still have the problem which sucks I just gotta fix that and then I can finally release the moon

[sour pier]

also if someone could help me with the time issue and the reverb issue that would be appreciated

[sour pier]

ok I am gonna be busy irl but I hope some can help me tmr morning

[ancient meadow]

looks nice

[sour pier]

thank you, do you think it look better than the other screenshots from before

[ancient meadow]

sure

[grave lodge]

the particles are a nice change from just the flat fog, I may implement that into my moons xD

[sour pier]

I can send you the prefab if you do

[grave lodge]

i think im good, I want to see how to do it myself

[ornate wagon]

this looks great

[sour pier]

thank you!

[sour pier]

if someone could help me fix the issue with time that would be much apprerciated 🙏

[outer pendant]

The clock still isn't appearing even with all of the reverb triggers and presets replaced?

[sleek saddle]

Check if ur missing the sky ones

I grab em off assurance

[sour pier]

Im having issues with the reverb triggers now

let me explain

so when I copied and pasted the reverb triggers, they paste fine, except there in different posistions. The posistion is where the ship lands in game. For some reason where the ship is in the editor is not where the ship lands. I have the ship in the right spot in the editor too

[sour pier]

ye I also have that one too

[outer pendant]

For the ship position, recopy it from a vanilla scene, bc that's the only reason I can think of that would mess with the ships landing spot

[sleek saddle]

Nothing can mess up the ships landing spot

im being nitpicky on your wording

[outer pendant]

Bc if your ship navmesh position is offset in the editor, then in game you won't be hitting the reverb triggers that do all the game things

[outer pendant]

[sour pier]

I beleive I have it in the right posistion tho

I also double checked with the one from vanilla

alr I pasted it in from vow now it goes into the same spot where it actually lands

[outer pendant]

you're killin me here lmao

If you run into that in the future, just copy the world transform of the playershipnavmesh in a vanilla scene and paste it onto your playershipnavmesh

[sour pier]

alr ty

the issue still happens 😭 does the cube name matter for the reverb triggers

[outer pendant]

nope

[sour pier]

I might make a new scene and just copy everything over

[outer pendant]

at this point I don't blame you lol, idk what the issue is

[sour pier]

oh wait my audio changes arent at 0, could that be why?

[outer pendant]

possibly, it might be breaking the ART

Also technically it's not that they have to be at 0, they just can't be referencing missing audio clips

[sour pier]

alr

[sour pier]

bruh its still not working /:

[outer pendant]

Re-follow the tutorial to make a basic moon and see if it loads and works properly

[sour pier]

i guess I will do it again but I did follow through it

[sour pier]

lowkey i just give up lol

[valid umbra]

@outer pendant anything in the tutorial that needs changing?

I'm prolly starting g within the next couple days

[outer pendant]

Not 100% sure, but it should still work just fine. I won't know for certain until the LLL update comes out

[valid umbra]

guess ill wait for that

[frail ridge]

uhh I get this error when I try using the terminal:
NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
LethalLevelLoader.TerminalManager.RefreshExtendedLevelGroups () (at <519c156a8dbc4475bcf45d93d9f3cd0d>:IL_0001)
LethalLevelLoader.TerminalManager.RunLethalLevelLoaderTerminalEvents (TerminalNode node) (at <519c156a8dbc4475bcf45d93d9f3cd0d>:IL_01BC)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches.TerminalRunTerminalEvents_Prefix (TerminalNode node) (at <519c156a8dbc4475bcf45d93d9f3cd0d>:IL_0001)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMDTerminal::RunTerminalEvents(Terminal,TerminalNode)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMDTerminal::LoadNewNode(Terminal,TerminalNode)
Terminal.OnSubmit () (at Assets/LethalCompany/Game/Scripts/Assembly-CSharp/Terminal.cs:529)
UnityEngine.Events.InvokableCall.Invoke () (at <10871f9e312b442cb78b9b97db88fdcb>:IL_0010)
UnityEngine.Events.UnityEvent1[T0].Invoke (T0 arg0) (at <10871f9e312b442cb78b9b97db88fdcb>:IL_0049)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.SendOnEndEdit () (at ./Library/PackageCache/[email protected]/Scripts/Runtime/TMP_InputField.cs:3149)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.ReleaseSelection () (at ./Library/PackageCache/[email protected]/Scripts/Runtime/TMP_InputField.cs:4146)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.DeactivateInputField (System.Boolean clearSelection) (at ./Library/PackageCache/[email protected]/Scripts/Runtime/TMP_InputField.cs:4184)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.OnUpdateSelected (UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData) (at ./Library/PackageCache/[email protected]/Scripts/Runtime/TMP_InputField.cs:2161)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute (UnityEngine.EventSystems.IUpdateSelectedHandler handler, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData) (at ./Library/PackageCache/[email protected]/Runtime/EventSystem/ExecuteEvents.cs:106)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute[T] (UnityEngine.GameObject target, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData, UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents+EventFunction1[T1] functor) (at ./Library/PackageCache/[email protected]/Runtime/EventSystem/ExecuteEvents.cs:272)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.EventSystem:DMD<UnityEngine.EventSystems.EventSystem::Update>(EventSystem)

[outer pendant]

I never did get a clarification, or if I did I missed it, is this when you run it in game or in editor?

[frail ridge]

editor

[outer pendant]

Go to the root of your assets folder, find the LCPatcherRuntimeSettings. Pretty sure you don't have your bepinex location set up correctly.

That's the error that occurs when LLL isn't present I think

[frail ridge]

okay

[frail ridge]

alr im there

you mean that?

[outer pendant]

Yep. Click Open and make sure you have the plugins I showed in the video

[outer pendant]

all the files are in each one?

[frail ridge]

pretty sure

maybe its one of these other settings?

[outer pendant]

No, that looks fine. I'm gonna tag in @empty anvil and @sleek saddle for this

[frail ridge]

alr

well I fixed part of it

I turned that on and now I dont get the error anymore, but now my moon simply doesnt show up

[outer pendant]

Double check that the scene name in your SelectableLevel matches the scene name of your moon exactly
Then make sure you have the SL in your ExtendedLevel

[frail ridge]

yep I have them

[outer pendant]

I'm truly confused

[frail ridge]

i fixed it

I reinstalled unity and all the other things

and then dragged the old files to the new project

sorry about allat

[outer pendant]

Lmaoo well at least it got resolved

[frail ridge]

yeah fr

tysm

[outer pendant]

You're welcome ^^

[sour pier]

how would I add my custom music?

and play it in the interior?

[sleek saddle]

look at the -1 usepreset audioreverbtriggers

[sour pier]

ty!

[green spear]

Alright
On what are we standing at rn?
Am i able to port my moon, or still everything is WIP and I should wait?

[sleek saddle]

for v50?

[grave lodge]

I assume thats what they are talking about

[sour pier]

how does one copy something from a vanilla scene

when I click split mesh it really breaks it

[late ravine]

Feeling a little lost on how to add water volumes to drown myself in. looking around the discord skimming other water discussion has maybe misled me. any guidance appreciated, but please ping me as i am likely going to fall asleep https://youtu.be/2ScTFCcareM?si=GnSnXyTVuVQJlfg- i should look at the vanilla ones tomorrow... likely tired ^^

[green spear]

Yep

[sleek saddle]

you dont need to change anything

youll wanna adjust how you do stuff for LLL but nothing required initially and nothign crazy

its mostly scriptableobject type stuff

[knotty narwhal]

How should I proceed to play a specific sound to all players at a specific time, a bit like the event on @jolly pecan’s Gratar (totally @ you for no reason 👀)

[outer pendant]

You could hook into the sun animation maybe?

[knotty narwhal]

You can do that?

I didn't know animations could include sounds!

[outer pendant]

You can animate a lot of things lol

[knotty narwhal]

Man. The more I learn, the more I enjoy creating stuff in Unity

[knotty narwhal]

all of Zeekers' animation sounds are based on triggers, not a specific moment in the animation 😠

they play when triggered and that's it

I'm unsure how to do it then

[sour pier]

ask lethalmatt

he did that with bozoros

[knotty narwhal]

trueeeee thank you

[sour pier]

and once you know how plz share with me 🙂

[knotty narwhal]

lmao alright 🙂

[cinder wasp]

for some reason all my terrain is shiny, anyone know how to fix that?

[sour pier]

I would reccomend just looking up "unity how to fix shiny terrain"

[cinder wasp]

it's only shiny ingame, so none of the results from a search help

[valid umbra]

Pretty sure you can just use AnimationEvents

There's a guide for them in lethal wiki's custom enemy section

[outer pendant]

Pic?

With an editor screenshot for comparison please

[cinder wasp]

i accidentally deleted all my terrain it might take longer to get back to you than previously expected

[knotty narwhal]

[late ravine]

may i ask how you set up water to drown? is there an additional volume you add? im not sure how vow and march do it and i looked around.

[outer pendant]

Look in Vow for the KillTrigger objects

[late ravine]

only instant? no drowning?

oh theres cause of death in the inspector

theres tons of things in the inspector im still processing mb*

[outer pendant]

oh sorry, go to March and look for quicksand triggers, they have an "Is Water" checkbox

I got confused lol

[knotty narwhal]

My god @valid umbra I just realized how everything works I’m an idiot sorry. Everything is about % not time

I’ve been bashing my head on my desk all day when you already told me

[valid umbra]

ye lol

[knotty narwhal]

My question now is: will the ship's door always close at 100% or sometimes a little under or over?

[cinder wasp]

some new terrain but the issue still applies, but it's shiny in the editor here (probably was just less visible on the other terrain) increases in shininess with normal scale size

[knotty narwhal]

Okay. My sun animation works fine in editor but as soon as I try in game it just doesn't do anything past a certain point

it gets stuck on a random %

it's like the game just doesn't care what I do lol

[outer pendant]

Try lowering the smoothness of the texture

[outer pendant]

Did you make a custom animation or did you just modify a vanilla one without duplicating it? >_>

[cinder wasp]

Smoothness is controlled by diffuse alpha channel

[outer pendant]

Show me your texture properties in the terraint Paint Textures area

[outer pendant]

Go to your diffuse texture and let me see the import properties

[knotty narwhal]

o no

💀

I probably did exactly that 🙂

[outer pendant]

Well check first before I yell at you

[knotty narwhal]

You can yell at me

[cinder wasp]

unsure of what you mean

[outer pendant]

Nah I wanna save my voice for certified yellings

[knotty narwhal]

I modified the base SunAnim

[outer pendant]

BINDER

[knotty narwhal]

i screwed up

[outer pendant]

This is coming out of your paycheck corporal

[knotty narwhal]

damn it !!!

[outer pendant]

this stuff

[cinder wasp]

i do believe i have no idea where to find that

[knotty narwhal]

Alright how do I fix my mess now

[outer pendant]

Okay actually, let me see the terrain material you're using in Paint Textures

[outer pendant]

Just duplicate your modified version, rename it, replace the default one in your SunAnimContainer

[cinder wasp]

this?

[outer pendant]

Why is that different than the one above lmao

and no, it might be in terrain settings?

I'm using the extra terrain tools from Unity so mine looks a little different than normal

[cinder wasp]

i gave it a name

[outer pendant]

I meant it having a slider

but dw about that

just find the overall terrain material

[cinder wasp]

perhaps i should get that

[outer pendant]

Let's solve this first 🤭 cart before the horse and all that

okay, click on the material to go to it, then go to its inspector

also tick Draw Instanced

not having DI enabled can crash on loading the moon

[cinder wasp]

gwa

[outer pendant]

That's what I wanted it to be, that's normal lol, don't worry

okay go back to your grass terrain layer and click on the image of the texture

it should take you to where the texture is in your project, then you can look at its import settings

[cinder wasp]

this should be it? it's the ForestFloor texture from the base game by the way

[outer pendant]

??? why would it be doing this then lmao

wait

in the texture painting, have you tried reducing the normal scale?

[cinder wasp]

with normal scale at 0, there's still some little shiny spots, mostly at edges

better image

[outer pendant]

Okay, two things to try:
Click on the color tint and see if altering the alpha channel there does anything useful
If that doesn't work, in the import settings of the grass, untick "alpha is transparency"

[cinder wasp]

can't find an alpha channel in color tint, and unticking alpha is transparency didn't work

[outer pendant]

did you click apply?

[cinder wasp]

yep

[outer pendant]

Where is this located? I'm not seeing it in the assets

[cinder wasp]

Assets > LethalCompany > Game > Textures> Texture2Ds

[outer pendant]

Yeah that doesn't exist for me lmao

Just to check, if you remove the grass layer, the shininess goes away?

[cinder wasp]

gwuh

unrelated to the shininess, quicksand doesn't seem to be appearing

[outer pendant]

set decal layer 2 in your rendering layer masks at the bottom of terrain

[outer pendant]

also does this affect it?

[cinder wasp]

yeah, that seems to remove the shininess

[outer pendant]

okay so something's real weird about that texture

[knotty narwhal]

@outer pendant I duplicate the controller right

[outer pendant]

set alpha source to none

[knotty narwhal]

this bad boy

[outer pendant]

Yes

[knotty narwhal]

got you

[cinder wasp]

nope, didn't work

[outer pendant]

Might just have to use a different texture fam, idk what else to try

You can ask in dev general if you haven't already and maybe someone there will know

[cinder wasp]

so sad

[cinder wasp]

anyways i'm unsure of how to do this

[outer pendant]

It's in terrain settings

[cinder wasp]

found it, thanke 👍

[sour pier]

what is the thing that plays the default vanilla ambient music?

is it the reverb triggers?

[outer pendant]

Idk exactly where it is, but it's weird hardcoded stuff that's not easily changed on our end iirc

Our = Moon-creators

[sour pier]

oh okay so its not possible to remove, or even just disable it or something?

im trying to add my own music but this overlaps

if its complicated its fine I will just add other background noise

[outer pendant]

I don't really know the process tbh

[sour pier]

alr thx

[knotty narwhal]

well my animations are sadly still very buggy

[sour pier]

how do I stop fog from entering the facility?

and

one of my 3d models, when I export them, just dont appear

only part of it does

in game

this is in the editor

but the part that isnt the rotor doesent appear for some reason

actually nvm I think I figuired it out

I messed up with the animations

but i still have the fog issue and idk how to fix that

[sour pier]

btw i got it fixed

[sour pier]

how do I stop playing the sound effetcs when I get into the interior?

[sleek saddle]

entranceteleport

audioreverbtriggers

[sour pier]

alr thx

also im kinda confused how to set up node

liek this eyeless dog wont move

does it have to be touching the terrain?

the node?

or should they be below the ground?

I think its an issue with my nodes

these are what my nodes look like

oh wiat

wait

I Think i forgot to bake my enviroment

thats why

[knotty narwhal]

it's really weird. On some runs the animation just doesn't play and sometimes it plays way too early. Sometimes it's super fast and sometimes super slow

it's very inconsistent

[grave lodge]

After adding the physically based sky from sfDesat package it seems that my planet thing in the sky is more affected by fog than I would like, is there a way around this, I dont necessarily want to get rid of the fog rendering on the material since that makes it look a bit strange.

[outer pendant]

You could try putting a local fog volume around it set to overwrite with a less dense value

[grave lodge]

ooo, good idea

never thought of that

Ill see how that looks

[sour pier]

were u able to figuire out this issue?

[grave lodge]

Does anyone know of a way to prevent lightning striking in certain areas?

I currently have a temporary fix but it still tries to strike lightning, playing sounds and stuff

[valid umbra]

the place where you setup the area for lightning, is there any option about masking or something similar?

[grave lodge]

Not sure what you mean

[valid umbra]

hmm i havent setup a moon yet so idk how it looks, but can you show me how you add lightning onto the moon?

[grave lodge]

Ah, I dont think there is a thing that nessecarily adds lightning, I think it is hardcoded in

same as foggy weather

only works for a certain area, unless im wrong

[valid umbra]

I'd have thought there'd be some sort of area object that had a center for the affected areas in lightning, im not too sure then

@sleek saddle would prob know

[grave lodge]

Fair

Ill see, im going to probably work on other stuff and test while I wait for a response

Right now I have a collider below the roof to stop lightning from striking xD

Actually, I may just forgot to set the colliders right

since im noticing that there isnt an actual collider on the roof of the cave area

[sleek saddle]

idk

[grave lodge]

Np, I think I figured it out

[cinder wasp]

development of fray is going decently well i believe

[sour pier]

looks really nice

also what controls the footstep sound?

[cinder wasp]

whatever the floor is tagged as

[sour pier]

in terrain?

[cinder wasp]

for any object, just using terrain as an example

[sour pier]

alr ty

[knotty narwhal]

wtf this is so cool looking

I need this so bad

[knotty narwhal]

I just can’t fix my animations so I thought I’d try it in the actual game because I’m going crazy by lol. I kinda can’t figure out how to export my bundles tho

Either im extremely bad with Unity (highly possible), the editor is bugged and doesn’t show the animation properly or the way sun anims work is stopping it from working

[sour pier]

love the vibe

[grave lodge]

odd

can I see the photo of the hierarchy in your scene that includes where the sun stuff is?

[knotty narwhal]

My sun anim controller and animation aren't the default ones btw

In the editor, the whole animation works wonderfully, but in game, it's different and inconsistent

[grave lodge]

Id personally say, try creating custom animations

I havent tested my stuff in game yet so it might just be a general quirk

[knotty narwhal]

custom animations?

Like I should give up on the sun anim and just create a whole animation?

I guess this would work better wouldn’t it

I’d have to see how that works

[grave lodge]

Uh so basically

What I personally did is copy the sun anim controller

And their animations linked

since I dont really know how to add conditions myself

It allows you to do some more things

For me, I added a stormy ambience with the overcast condition and an eclipse ambience with the eclipse condition

It allows for a bit more customization and might work better since you are targetting the animation directly

[knotty narwhal]

Ye I did that

But weirdly enough it just don’t work

Perhaps there’s a setting I haven’t found that’s messing me up

[outer pendant]

They should automatically get pulled in, but try marking them for bundling just in case

[knotty narwhal]

Well the animation is there and happens

It just doesn’t happen as seen in the editor

It’s very buggy and inconsistent

I could record a side by side

If you want

The problem I’ve been having these past hours is the animation just stopping 3/4 of the way there

I have also noticed that copying the animator and animations gave me these warnings of duplicate assets. I didn't mess anything (so far) and I was wondering if I should address it or it's alright

[sour pier]

my moon keeps crashing when I try to land

at the very end is the info

the thing is is that im not seeing any errors

[outer pendant]

Should be fine I think but you can mark them for bundling in your non-scene bundle and it'll prevent that, and a side-by-side wouldn't help me in particular for debugging lol

[outer pendant]

Likely culprits are either you have some high amount of grass or similar that's casting too many shadows, or your terrain isn't marked Draw Instanced in the terrain settings