How to Make a Custom Moon in Lethal Company | Lethal Level Loader

[knotty narwhal]

should I put the collider on the parent instead

i didn't think about that one

[green spear]

yes

[knotty narwhal]

damn it

thank you lol

parent or both

[green spear]

i just put mesh for parent

[outer pendant]

Yea try that

[green spear]

doesn't seems to work

the game just ignores my model

like yeah, i can see it, and i can collide with it

but for some reason game doesn't change its sound when i step on it

idk if its only the editor problem or what

[outer pendant]

Either that or the LC system isn't recognizing it bc it's a CSG mesh? Can you try just making 2 boxes, 1 with the metal tag, 1 with catwalk, and see if the footsteps work?

[green spear]

the catwalk tag works

i also found out, that when baking navmesh, the game generates it also on the model

so the game thinks that im still on the ground

[outer pendant]

Yeah navmesh will bake on anything that matches its settings.
Metal must be used internally for other reasons then, but at least this tells us something's up with your mesh for why footsteps aren't working appropriately

[green spear]

yeah, so the problem lays on realtime csg

models made with pro builder works normally

so i guess i have to rebuild my whole model.

[outer pendant]

before you do that

Probuilder has an option to strip its scripts from everything, does csg have something similar that'll convert everything to normal meshes?

@green spear just don't want you to scrap things you don't have to

[green spear]

wdym

[green spear]

Let me check

Seems like maybe there is something like that

OMG, YES THERE IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT

AND NOW EVERYTHING WORKS

geez

youre a life savior

@outer pendant

[outer pendant]

You're welcome! I'm glad my knowledge is coming in handy :3

[green spear]

now tell me how do i change ambient music in my level :P

[outer pendant]

That's beyond the scope of the tutorial

https://tenor.com/view/xd-meme-funny-emoji-gif-15406750

[outer pendant]

tbh I'm actually just doing that for the first time now

[ancient meadow]

@outer pendant Why is this happening?

[outer pendant]

The yellow warnings can be ignored, but idk why it would be crashing on you

[ancient meadow]

the strangest thing possible

[outer pendant]

I'm sorry I can't be of much help here :/

[grave lodge]

I get this error when trying to land on the moon? I renamed a couple things so I wonder if I accidentally messed something up

[outer pendant]

Make sure your scene name in your Selectable Level file is the exact same as the actual scene name of your moon

[grave lodge]

hmm seems like it is the exact same

[outer pendant]

Does your Extended Level reference the correct Selectable Level file?

[grave lodge]

also yes

Not sure whats wrong tbh

[outer pendant]

Hmmm, I know I ran into this at some point, but I can't remember what exactly the issue was

You've got your scene marked in its own bundle?

[grave lodge]

Yepp

[outer pendant]

Do you remember what stuff you renamed?

[grave lodge]

I renamed the scene/folder in the scenes folder, the extended level, the selectable level

iirc

I also

Recreated the selectable level from a different template

[outer pendant]

Do you still have the original SL, and if so are you referencing the new one in your EL?

[grave lodge]

I ended up deleting the original, and I dragged in the new one to the reference a couple times just to check

didnt do anything sadly

[outer pendant]

Screenshot your EL and SL

[haughty lily]

Yeah lol

Oh ok

ig I’ll have to figure it out

[outer pendant]

Just gotta reassign your materials to their objects

[haughty lily]

Yeah ig

[haughty lily]

I thought it was deeper than that so I didn’t bother doing it lol

[haughty lily]

the concept for the conditions is pretty sick ngl

[grave lodge]

ty!

[outer pendant]

Okay, lemme see the scene hierarchy for Assessment

[outer pendant]

Yea everything looks right

Are there any errors when building bundles?

[grave lodge]

Doesnt seem like it

[outer pendant]

So you can route to it but not land, correct?

[grave lodge]

yep

when I pull the lever it says the scene has not been added to the build settings scenes in build list?

in the console

[outer pendant]

Right. Have you been able to land before this?

[grave lodge]

yep

last thing that i remember before it started breaking was the renaming and stuff

[outer pendant]

Oh I see the problem

In your EL you're referencing "AssessmentLevel", but your new SL is "Assessment Level" with a space

[grave lodge]

it says that but the file itself is AssessmentLevel.asset

it just adds spaces every capital letter in the inspector ig

[outer pendant]

Ah dang, so it does

At this point, I would try making a fresh EL and SL, then just copying the settings over. You can copy the full lists (meaning scrap, enemies, etc.) over as well, no need to do them every item one at a time

[grave lodge]

yeah

I was thinking similarly

[outer pendant]

If that doesn't work, I'll call in reinforcements

[knotty narwhal]

Hey sorry this took a while I fell asleep lol. But this is what happens when I apply meshcolliders to the parent mesh

they're non-accessible??

[outer pendant]

Hm. Make sure the mesh is read/write enabled

like if you click the mesh itself, it should have import settings I think

[ancient meadow]

I've corrected the mistake

[knotty narwhal]

I can't seem to find it

there he is

let's try this out

[outer pendant]

What happened?

[knotty narwhal]

The rocks have collisions!!! not the bridges tho god damn it

[ancient meadow]

idk

but I used this and it worked

[knotty narwhal]

I'M ON IT

I am known as the bridgewalker!

[grave lodge]

🤷‍♀️ Welp, seems like it doesnt want to work. I remade the selectable/extended level and packaged the scene into another scene to just see if that was the issue.

[outer pendant]

Well whatever works I guess lmao

[knotty narwhal]

The meshes had to be set as readable and the mesh collider has to be applied to the children

[outer pendant]

WOOOOO

[knotty narwhal]

I KNOW RIGHT!!!

thank you so much for your help I was going crazy

[outer pendant]

@sleek saddle I'm calling in backup, any thoughts?

[outer pendant]

You're quite welcome lol

[sleek saddle]

what does the log say

like if you play it at runtime

[grave lodge]

The unity console logs?

[sleek saddle]

unity or running the game outright

i wanna see the lll logs

[grave lodge]

?

[sleek saddle]

yeahh lemme get back to you on this

can i also see your asset bundle browser window to see like what your bundles should be containing

[grave lodge]

like that?

[sleek saddle]

yeee lemme see the other one too

[sleek saddle]

(two images discord sucks)

[grave lodge]

I did end up changing the scene after sending the image of the selectable level

I fixed the scene name

still didnt work

[sleek saddle]

can i see that

[sleek saddle]

hmm

[grave lodge]

and this

[sleek saddle]

can you upload the bundles somewhere for me

[grave lodge]

alright

[grave lodge]

does that work? I had to send them all separately since discord upload limit

[sleek saddle]

dats chill ye

whats the first file

[grave lodge]

.manifest and .meta

idk what they are used for so I just put them with

[still glade]

You don't need them

Only need the .lethalbundle (s)

[grave lodge]

ah got it

removed it, just to lessen confusion pfft

[grave lodge]

@sleek saddle I have fixed it, it was just a problem with unity it seems. I ended up restarting the program and it fixed itself which is kinda obvious that I shouldve done in the first place xD

[sleek saddle]

sorry that i didnt respond

[grave lodge]

its alright

I had fallen asleep most of the time anyway

[barren plover]

I got a question about water, i try to add water, i use the VowWater material but i got the material like there were no shader, is there something to configure ?

[outer pendant]

Unfortunately as you've noticed, the internal water shader is broken in the ripped assets. Until someone figures out how to fix it, or Batby gets HDRP water working, I suggest using this free asset. It's what I'm using for Auralis, Triskelion, and my upcoming moon :)
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/2d/textures-materials/water/simple-water-shader-hdrp-207454

[barren plover]

okay 🙂

[glass forge]

Imagine using water and not liquid cheese

[outer pendant]

Imagine making a cheese moon after someone's dumb joke

:3c

[knotty narwhal]

Brilliant* joke

[green spear]

I've been trying to figure out how audio works and how can i change it

basically i know how to add ambient to outside and all

i also know how to mute audio inside facility

tho i have no idea how to play audio again after leaving dungeon

like, for some reason it stays quiet

any idea to what this two reverb presets are used for?

[glass forge]

Excuse me, this cheese moon is the glorious golden planet spoken of by Sigurd and you will not trash talk it

[empty anvil]

deepfries it

[outer pendant]

Not entirely sure tbh, I haven't used them. I also haven't finished testing my own moon update, but once I do I'll let you know how I went about ambience

[green spear]

Alright

[knotty narwhal]

I’m having a problem

An artistic problem

I’m trying to make my moon look like desert plateaus but it just looks flat and bland I’m so sad

[green spear]

look at the reference photos @knotty narwhal

[green spear]

Alright
Although I still haven't fully figured out the audio stuff I managed to change the skybox to a custom one which looks amazing with my moon and perfectly fits 👌

[grave lodge]

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What do I do about this? Since I kinda need to have it for making rotating objects in my moon

Its a warning, but it doesnt include the rotator in the package, so idk what to do about that

[outer pendant]

Is that a terrain rotator?

nvm bad at reading lol

[grave lodge]

xd

Its to rotate a light just like a lighthouse would is all

[outer pendant]

okay so you need it attached to the object and doing stuff at runtime

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I haven't yet figured that out myself, but try this:

[grave lodge]

oh yikmes

[outer pendant]

In the same folder as your script, try creating an Assembly Definition, then build again. This'll probably just spit out an error telling you that it can't do it, but it's worth a shot.
You might end up needing to make a separate plugin to just apply the script at runtime to your object.

unless @empty anvil knows a better way 🤭

[grave lodge]

from what I am reading.. it is almost impossible xD

oh and I did try that, it sadly didnt work as suspected

[outer pendant]

Yeah asset bundles aren't meant to hold scripts for some reason I'm not 100% sure of.
Idk how much you know about coding, but I guess that's your option if you want that light to rotate ^^;

[grave lodge]

yepp

[grave lodge]

May of figured out a way to do it without scripts

Well

More like I did xD

I just used animations instead

which was a little easier

[outer pendant]

Yeaaaa I thought of that as I was taking my dog for a walk - "Dang, I need to tell her there's a better way D: "

Glad you figured it out though!

[grave lodge]

yepp :D

Finally got it done which is a relief

Just got to work on my next idea when I wake up later wooo

[grave lodge]

By the way, how does your AI Fix mod work? Because I have it downloaded as a dependency for my moon and it doesnt seem to have an affect, interior entities that I have set to spawn as outside entities are spawning in the air with no ai spitting out errors.

[glass forge]

That's.. Definitely not intended

You have it as a dependency, but do you have it added in Unity runtime when you're testing?

StarlancerAIFix typically just assigns interior enemies to the outdoor AI nodes, alongside some few other fixes to make that work

[grave lodge]

Yeahh

I have done that

I was playing via my thunderstore modpack so maybe theres something in there that isnt compatible

Not sure though

Ill test if it works on its own later

[outer pendant]

Pretty much what Nikki said lol
Is it failing to work in the editor or the actual game?

[grave lodge]

Its failing to work in the game

I’m not at my PC rn so i cant find out the issue

[outer pendant]

Kk, do you remember if regular outside entities were spawning properly?

[grave lodge]

None spawned

Ill be able to test in a few

[outer pendant]

kk

[grave lodge]

Yep

They are

[outer pendant]

Very strange. Any other mods besides AI Fix?

[grave lodge]

I mean I have a modpack so yeah a lot

Just hav eto figure out which mod is the incompatibility

[grave lodge]

Do you know of any AI altering mods that would be incompatible?

Actually, let me isolate just the AI fix and the moon

seems to be a mod incompatibility issue

Ill try and figure out which mod so you can see if you can debug

[outer pendant]

I received some spawn issue reports regarding Enemy Fix, do you have that?

[grave lodge]

Ah yeah

Any good alternatives?

[outer pendant]

Not familiar with the mod itself, so I can offer no alternatives :s

[grave lodge]

ah, it despawns enemies after each round to prevent entities from persisting over levels

[outer pendant]

Yea but idk what causes it to glitch out and just not let enemies spawn again.

[grave lodge]

yeah idk, Im going to do some testing to see if I can remove it without issues

[grave lodge]

Is there any general tips for optimizing a moon?

[green spear]

I would say: use light models

Eg: the less detail a 3d model has, the less it weights

If you using any type of probuilder tool to build your level, structures or something

Then make sure, that the faces not visible for the player are not rendering

It saves some memory

Also the less player can see, the less camera can render

So higher fog should boost performence

Lastly, if you making your own 3d models for props etc, make sure to create low poly version of your model and add atributte to your mesh so it would change its model to low poly If player is too far

@grave lodge

[grave lodge]

got it

[green spear]

Another tip
Sometimes if you can, use textures on a 3D models with normal maps
instead to adding bumps or any other details to the mesh itself

[grave lodge]

yee normal maps are cools

[prime wadi]

How would I set up the moon so it would only use a specific interior?

[outer pendant]

In your selectable level, underneath Dungeon Flow Types, put only one element.
0 is facility, 1 is mansion.

For reference, that's Assurance's selectable level data

[prime wadi]

Gotcha. How would I know the Id for a custom interior?

[outer pendant]

That's unfortunately not something you can set up on your side I don't think

[green spear]

it's been a long journey
but after a lot of effort
gate model along with its texture is done
gate of the facility

[prime wadi]

Gotcha

Thank you very much

[slow sail]

looking for some help with this

the lethal company volume profile asset thing doesnt show up

its only 3 when in the video I've been watching they've had more files and so I'm like "did I screw up already?"

[outer pendant]

That's odd. I know it's a pain, but maybe try making a new project, and make sure you follow steps super closely

[haughty lily]

im still having that issue with my materials, somebody said to just reassign them but the objects already have them assigned? im not sure

[outer pendant]

Can you post a screenshot of the inspector window of one of your materials?

[haughty lily]

is this what you meant?

[outer pendant]

The right side is the inspector window. Select one of the materials that you're having the issue with directly and screenshot it

[haughty lily]

thats the problem im having issues with like all of them

and its weird cus all the materials look fine

[outer pendant]

And when you're at runtime they're pink?

[haughty lily]

some are, others are just not there

[outer pendant]

What happens with surface-texture? Pink or invisible?

[haughty lily]

invisible iirc

i'll check again in a sec

yep

but the navmesh seems to have baked properly seeing as how monsters can walk as if its there just fine

i clip through when i try to walk on it tho

[outer pendant]

It's super late so I have to hop off, but I'll see if I can figure something out in the morning. If you're comfortable with it, DM me and send me a zip of the following folders so I can debug it hands-on. If not that's understandable
Might have to do it via google drive or somesuch, unsure

[grave lodge]

Is there a good number for the totals of the enemy weights to add up to?

[outer pendant]

Not really

The base game doesn't add them up to 100 or anything

Just vibe it out lol

I know that's annoying to hear tho

[grave lodge]

fair, I just dont want it to get in the way of custom enemies

yknow?

if it is too high as a total then vanilla enemies will be the only thing that spawns

im going to go for around 300 for interior, 200 for outside, and 100 for daytime

[outer pendant]

Someone posted something once about how the spawnwithrarity type function works, but I can't remember who or where.
Like I said though, just experiment til it feels right :3

[grave lodge]

ye

Im making assessment way more 'fun'

[haughty lily]

my textures are now working, but hitboxes aren't, i just clip straight through my terrain, any thoughts?

(im using a mesh collider)

[green spear]

Look if you have any other option there

I should be home in around 30 mins so i could try to help you

[haughty lily]

i dont

[green spear]

K, lemme get back home and Ill try to figure out

[green spear]

Also, is your terrain object inside environment objects group?

[haughty lily]

yes

[green spear]

so basically instead of mesh collider you should use terrain collider for terrain

[haughty lily]

oh

how do i give it the hitbox though?

[green spear]

so this is how it looks in my project

ho wait

now i found out

your terrain is a 3D model

not a terrain object in unity?

hmm

thats odd

[green spear]

@haughty lily alright, try to set your terrain model like it was before

and then clear navmesh environment and bake it once again

lastly build your project with asset bundles and make sure to check "clear folders" so it will delete old files and create a new ones

[haughty lily]

yes

[haughty lily]

i tried this and it didnt work :(

(i didnt reply to the other message, but i did try the clear folders option like you said as well)

[green spear]

Weird

[twin bridge]

yo great tutorial, i have a few questions about the bundling:

• is there a reason why 2 .lethalbundles are needed?
• why is the entire folder is bundled instead of just the extended level files? (for bundle size?) i tried just doing extended levels & in my case it was a smaller bundle & loaded fine (i think)
• if i was to create items with lethal lib, how should i do that in this project & manage the bundles so i dont need to load dependancy bundles

[outer pendant]

1. It's the way LLL handles things iirc, but it is needed
2. You can just tag one of the level files, I just figured it'd be more foolproof to tag the content folder and then manually tag the scene, but do it however works best for you
3. I haven't made items yet, so I'm unfortunately unable to answer that question. My thinking on it would be to make it its own extensionless bundle (not lethalbundle) and make a plugin to load the bundle and set the logic to spawn the scrap on moons. If you're talking about items you can purchase, I have even less of an inkling on how to go about that

[kind vale]

Yo orange, in response to your last question if this is a worry for you I would port the items into a separate unity project for the time being

[sleek saddle]

It’s a Unity limitation. AssetBundles that contain scene files can only contain scene files

[twin bridge]

awesome, thanks everyone :)

looks like if I manually bundle the level files I can create items without a dependency on the main bundle.

I would assume that makes the bundles bigger if it duplicates some materials and prefabs the items share with the levels but we’ll see

[onyx trout]

Love the tutorial, it's been a huge help. Just followed the tutorial for now so it's still the default look, but everything works and I feel pretty good about making something now!

Couple questions on just what is possible since I had a few ideas:

Simplest question, is there a/what is the limit on the number of fire exits possible? I don't think I've been to a custom moon with more than 3, so wasn't sure if that was a cap.

More complex one, would it be possible to teleport the player OTHER THAN into the facility, like external warps between areas of the moon? It actually seems like it may be possible without much custom scripting using either the OOB plane or the entrances as a base, but I wanted to hear some thoughts from those with more experience before I looked into it too much.

I think I'm already getting to ambitious with my ideas for my own good.

[haughty lily]

there probably is a way yeah

most likely requires some scripting tho

[outer pendant]

1. Not that I'm aware of, but I wouldn't know for certain.
2. Probably. I know there's ways of setting up portals in Unity, but idk how much scripting it would involve or if it would be doable at runtime for a mod

Essentially that's all the entrances are, portals. The dungeon exists in the same scene 200 units below the ship (in vanilla)

So there might even be a way to use the entrance teleport code to your advantage there

[sleek saddle]

1. Limited by the amount of places in the dungeon that could be forced to spawn

2. Totally, but requires scripting. Would be a prime candidate for a LethalToolbox addition once that’s initially released

[onyx trout]

Yeah I'm aware they just teleport you, that's why I thought it'd fit pretty well as a base to work off of.

[onyx trout]

I was not aware of LethalToolbox, but I looked at it and that's pretty exciting for when it releases. And yeah that'd be a great feature for it, I could see some cool moons utilizing it

And just to clarify with the fire exits, since it's only limited by how many places it COULD be forced to spawn, that's usually a crazy high number yeah? At least for default interiors where fire exits hav many possible locations, including multiple in the same room

[onyx trout]

I may try to see if I can figure this out on my own as I have plenty of coding experience, but not really the modding experience. If not then I'll patiently await LethalToolbox cause that sounds awesome

[bleak lake]

[Warning: Unity Log] TerminalKeyword must be instantiated using the ScriptableObject.CreateInstance method instead of new TerminalKeyword.

How should I handle this Warning

[haughty lily]

ok so for clarity, does the ground neeed to be a terrain? i've been struggling with this shit for a while and i can't figure it out

i turned it into a terrain but i needed to rotate it and couldnt figure it out

[outer pendant]

My Triskelion doesn't have any terrain, what issue are you encountering?

[haughty lily]

the ground isnt grounding

[outer pendant]

When are you getting this warning?

[haughty lily]

hitbox fail

[outer pendant]

You've still got something marked for the lem then, bc when I was testing it I was able to walk around

[haughty lily]

dayum

i thought i did it all

[outer pendant]

In the asset bundle browser, select the lem and you should see what assets are still marked for it

[haughty lily]

oh right

literally nothing that should be effecting the ground is marked as .lem

weird

[outer pendant]

Do it anyways lol

[haughty lily]

fair

idk what i did but it worked

[outer pendant]

Ta-da! 🤭

[prime wadi]

How does one change the sounds something makes when it gets stepped on?

[outer pendant]

Under the tags in the inspector, certain tags change the footstep sounds

[haughty lily]

ok so

for some reason the game stops climbing before getting to the last section of the ladder with 4 sections

it just gets stuck

[outer pendant]

Make sure the ladder top and bottom positions are set correctly and that the trigger covers the whole ladder

[haughty lily]

the trigger does yes but what do you mean by top and bottom being set correctly

[outer pendant]

In the interact trigger component, there's a top and bottom position for ladders controlled by two empty points that you can adjust the transform for

Tbh I haven't really messed with ladders tho, so I'm not 100% on how to make them work properly

[haughty lily]

alright

it looks fine to me

maybe i just needed to click them to actually spawn them in

[outer pendant]

Hm? Is it working now?

[haughty lily]

idk i havent tried it i was about to go to bed

thanks for the help again, gn

[outer pendant]

You're welcome!

[tidal niche]

Quick question, with sf Desat's lighting setup, how do I stop it affecting the facility and the ship interior? 🤔

[outer pendant]

Make sure you set the SunAnimContainer to use the new direct and indirect lights

[green spear]

another quick question
i recently found out what occlusion area is and what it does

and i also see that i need to bake it for my scene in order for it to work

does anyone here used occlusion area in their map?
because it basically cuts areas from rendering when players camera can't see it

which should boost performance

and really often people likes to complain about performence in custom moons

🤔

[outer pendant]

Put the occlusion area covering your intended playable area, go to window -> rendering -> occlusion culling and you can bake occlusion there

I've also put a large plane with no renderer and an occlusion portal component just underneath my map to prevent the dungeon from rendering while you're outside

but only bake once you have all your occlusion set up

[tidal niche]

Thanks! 🙏🏼 🙏🏼

[green spear]

@outer pendant do you remember how to add your own custom story log to moon?
I already added it to the map, but i have no idea where can i create text for terminal to actually read it

[outer pendant]

Actually, I haven't done it yet. I'm not sure the functionality is fully implemented yet

[green spear]

oh

[knotty narwhal]

I’m really hyped for this, it’ll add a lot more depth to most moon’s lore

[green spear]

it sort of works i guess

i mean, you need to add the story logs object to your scene and set it as you please

you also need to give it an unique ID

and then in extendedlevel you can put this story log

tho, for some reason the text i've written didn't show up

im gonna try to figure it out tommorow

as well as audio problems

since my moon is finally finished

now i have to debug it and im ready to upload :D

[knotty narwhal]

It’s finished?! Congrats! When’d you start? I feel like I’m taking forever

I’ve started Feb 9th

[green spear]

Like over 2 weeks ago

[knotty narwhal]

Insane, I’d like to try it!

[cinder wasp]

i appear to have done something very wrong as i don't have a scenes folder, only a prefab folder, i can't save my project and the skybox isn't working

[outer pendant]

The scenes folder should definitely have come from the rip process in Nomnom's utility

[cinder wasp]

i mean in the folder for my mod, i only have prefabs

gwuh

[outer pendant]

I'm unclear as to the sequence of events here. Did you have a scenes folder at some point?

[cinder wasp]

i don't think i did, no

this is what i mean by the skybox not working also, i set it to the bridge whatever

[outer pendant]

are you following alongside the tutorial, step-by-step?

[cinder wasp]

i was trying to but something went wrong it seems

[outer pendant]

I'm pretty sure I go through the setup of folders and such, did I not? D:

[cinder wasp]

god i wish it was possible to just have a template mod all set up already

[cinder wasp]

you definitely did but i must have missed it, but i can't find where you did in the video if you would happen to know

[outer pendant]

Just checked, start around 12:40

[cinder wasp]

red pixels that look like radiation particles have appeared on the youtube page so i don't think my computer was a fan of me missing the step

[outer pendant]

?????

You're situation is concerning

[green spear]

the scenes folder with all scenes is in the game/scenes

[knotty narwhal]

man. I have just experienced the power of prefabs

turns out ctrl+d isn't the only answer

[outer pendant]

prefabs are great lol

[green spear]

I've expirenced a lot of bugs and there is no way for me to release this moon tommorow.

I still have problems with audio

Turns out that story logs doesnt work

And lastly, since i've baked area occlusion

My moon loads way slower while generating dungeon.

I have no idea what to do at this point.

Also, looking at the direction, where isnt anything causes fps to drop even to 50

From 95

Great.

Any potential reasons?

[outer pendant]

That's strange, can I see your occlusion settings?

[green spear]

I've set it to default 5, 0.25 and 100

[outer pendant]

And if you remove the occlusion bake, your performance increases?

[green spear]

Just level loading

Before i've even find out about occlusion are

My dungeon was generating pretty Quick

Today i've tested my moon on actuall game, not in unity, and loading map takes like 10 s

It doesn't seems much
But imagine having screen freezed for 10 seconds straight

Compare to other maps that takes like 3-4 s to load, my load time seems a bit of

[outer pendant]

Weird, I haven't had that happen. As far as performance in general goes, I don't know the extent of your knowledge. Are you using LODs? If not, are your models high-poly? Are your textures high-res?

[green spear]

Im not using LODs, tho my models are low poly and textures are 1k

[outer pendant]

Show me your terrain settings

[green spear]

Overall performance of my moon seems right

[outer pendant]

Or are you not using terrain?

oh

[green spear]

I do use terrain from unity

[outer pendant]

my bad, I thought you were saying you were having big fps drops

[green spear]

Not really

I mean

I had one weird drop from 95 to 55 while looking at open space

I mean, there was only terrain after all without any models or something

I do have huge terrain around my map like vanilla maps does

But i've set its detail per batch to 8 and also texture quality to 512 instead of 1024 like normally

So idk whats going On

[outer pendant]

Yea that's really weird. What's your dungeon size multiplier?

[green spear]

1.18

I use facility only

🤔

I also deleted turrets from spawnable objects

Only mines are left

So now im thinking

Maybe thats the case?

🤨

[outer pendant]

No, that wouldn't be it. I only have mines on Solace as well.

At the bottom of the occlusion, how big is your bake size?

[green spear]

It was around 3.4-4.1 MB as i remember

[outer pendant]

Can I see a screenshot of what your moon looks like? If you don't wanna share it publicly you can send me a DM

[green spear]

Ill show you tommorow

[outer pendant]

👍

[ancient meadow]

Sounds very interesting

[onyx trout]

May be a silly question, but how did you get the little mini AI navigation window like in the tutorial? It wasn't there by default for me, I was able to do everything it did for the tutorial's sake using my own ways, since I was personally used to those with Unity, but it seems like it'd still be useful to have once I go more fully into making a moon.

[onyx trout]

Also it seems that dayspeedmultiplier doesn't work if I'm right? The day moved slower but also it counted as two days. Unfortunate as I was hoping to see if it could make rather large moons more bearable

[outer pendant]

Not sure tbh

[onyx trout]

Oh strange, I thought for sure I looked there but I must have missed it, thanks!

[onyx trout]

Probably a question for Batby honestly, I just thought it was strange as I was doing some messing around

[green spear]

how do i get rid of purple textures in unity editor?

for some reason my scanner while testing game is ping

same goes with terrain, that has less texture quallity than 1k

and also every water is pink for me

🤔

[outer pendant]

some of the LC shaders are broken in-editor, nothing to be done about it atm

[green spear]

alright

i thought it was some issue on my side

[green spear]

how do i make planet description scroll when there's not enough space for whole description

?

[outer pendant]

I thought it did it automatically? If not then I'm not sure, that should be something that's part of basegame

[green spear]

i thought so xD

but for some reason it doesnt work for me

maybe ill try to add few enters at the end

[golden osprey]

I've seen a number of moons where the monitor text just goes off screen without scrolling. I think Solace falls under that issue as well. Some like Outpost just ended up making the info concise as they did not find an alternative.

[outer pendant]

Yea, it does. Not sure why it doesn't just scroll like in vanilla

[green spear]

Darn

[tidal niche]

so.. I keep falling through the map when I walk against specific parts of the ship from the outside 😰

I accidentally moved everything in the scene on the y-axis once, which might have led to this?

anyone knows a fix by any chance?

[green spear]

set your ship navmesh to 0 0 0 first

then adjust rest of the map

bake env

build your bundle

and try again

[tidal niche]

thanks, hope it works 🙏🏼 I'm going insane trying to fix this

damn now I'm getting yeeted 100000 meters into the air

[green spear]

you've set the ship navmesh to 0 0 0, right?

[tidal niche]

yup :/

[green spear]

have you adjusted the terrain position after that?

[outer pendant]

go to a vanilla scene, copy the ship navmesh, paste it in your mod scene

That'll give you the exact location the ship will land and you can fix everything around it

oh and if you have any terrain too close to the ship that I cause you to break through bc of collision

I actually had this problem on Solace at one point

[tidal niche]

I did that too already 😰

but I might just try to put terrain further then

[tidal niche]

I have, hmm 😕

[cinder wasp]

i've started again from scratch and things are going much better

something odd i noticed is that the sky is grey instead of black but i presume this is hopefully just a matter of different settings

[outer pendant]

Doublecheck the hdrp settings shown in the vid, they have to be set correctly for things to render properly

[cinder wasp]

not sure where hdrp settings are shown

[outer pendant]

Should be right after running the patcher in the vid

[cinder wasp]

checked and yeah, i did that correctly

hmm

[outer pendant]

Well as long as things are rendering it should be fine

[cinder wasp]

I'M LIKE A GOD

locusts don't render properly either i can't believe you would skip over such a critical thing in your tutorial

oh god. now i have to actually make a moon

[ancient meadow]

Any ideas yet?

[cinder wasp]

five ideas, some being significantly less possible than others

sierra will be real, it will just take time and maybe a nap because im sleepy

[knotty narwhal]

what’s your idea with Sierra?

[golden osprey]

Yeah this is sick. Batby and Knight are awesome for making this come true.

[haughty lily]

so uh

my moon is bascially finished, but,

i tested it while it was rainy and the quicksand just doesnt spawn in

i have my terrain have decal layer 2 visible but for some reason the quicksand just isnt there

i sweeped the whole map and couldnt find any

[haughty lily]

well ignored it for now, but i tried playtesting it by importing it as a local mod, but it just doesnt show up

is this how you're meant to format it?

[haughty lily]

oh

[haughty lily]

i did this but now no custom moons are showing up in the terminal

[ancient meadow]

rewatch the tutorial

[haughty lily]

i dont think he mentions how to upload to thunderstore in the tutorial

[cinder wasp]

sand and pipes

[cinder wasp]

i love the tool to make the abyss

[cinder wasp]

oh no i'm messing with paint holes

[cinder wasp]

i already did that 👍

[haughty lily]

i have everything except for changelog but im pretty sure that should be fine?

lmk if i need changelog

[ancient meadow]

Celestria.lethalbundle and CelestriaScene.lethalbundle

31:32 - 32:58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnZG5464ZcE

[ancient meadow]

it's not compulsory

[cinder wasp]

copied this chainlink fence from assurance but for some reason i can only move its collision and not the fence itself

actually basically any props i copy i can only move the collision of

[valid umbra]

you shold get a changelog

[prime wadi]

that's because they're in a combined mesh

[cinder wasp]

well, is there any way i can un-combine the mesh or something?

[prime wadi]

look for the mesh filter where it says combined mesh

then hit the bullet point next to it

and look for the mesh which has the same name as a game object

[cinder wasp]

not sure i fully understand

[empty anvil]

If you used my tool https://github.com/nomnomab/lc-project-patcher?tab=readme-ov-file#how-can-i-split-the-combined-meshes-that-i-can-find-in-scenes

[cinder wasp]

ah, thank you!

[prime wadi]

oh i didn't know that was out 💀

mb chat

[cinder wasp]

it would appear this has mutilated the fence

[empty anvil]

lol what the hell

[cinder wasp]

it also made this one specific pipe inside out

[empty anvil]

Hmm yeah it isn't perfect, but it worked with most things I tried it with #1199473521265475745 message Might just be some meshes are more specific than others I dunno

[cinder wasp]

i suppose i'll have to use quicksand instead of fences for now

[empty anvil]

wait

On vow there is already a split fence you can use

The rest of them are combined lmao

[cinder wasp]

oh

sick

[empty anvil]

I think I see why it goes funky for some meshes, if the mesh itself has submeshes, that are meant for that same object (instead of submeshes elsewhere for other objects) it doesn't carry them over. Not really sure how to solve that atm, but I'll add it to my list.

[cinder wasp]

also whenever i move my camera near these twin silos they vanish, this seems to be a lod thing but i don't know how to disable the lod

[empty anvil]

Yeah that is another case of the real asset having submeshes and it doesn't convert properly

[cinder wasp]

would you know how i would go about disabling the lod to sort of avoid this though

[cinder wasp]

oh aha i can just extract silotwinslowdetail

[green spear]

some of the mesh from vanilla is combined
if you want to uncombine it, just go to the mesh filter of this object, click the 3 dots icon on the right and selects option to split mesh in the scene

[cinder wasp]

already solved it

[green spear]

👌

[cinder wasp]

SIERRA IS REAL

[outer pendant]

Nicely done! :D

[knotty narwhal]

WOAH this took like what, a day??

[cinder wasp]

roughly yeah. still very wip though

[empty anvil]

[knotty narwhal]

Insane, let’s goo

[cinder wasp]

i've got it working* ingame so let me get some screenshots real quick
*nothing is spawning other than invisible unmoving locusts and i have no idea why

[knotty narwhal]

Bird

[cinder wasp]

great idea, i should add some baboon hawks here

[knotty narwhal]

Big bird

[cinder wasp]

screened shots

[knotty narwhal]

Damnn that’s really cool

[tidal niche]

does anyone know how to extend the range of foggy weather? it's just cut off in the middle of the map 😅

[cinder wasp]

lighting > local volumetric fog > volume > size

[tidal niche]

for the foggy WEATHER effect? 🤔

because normal fog works fine 🥲

[cinder wasp]

oh, then i'm unsure

[tidal niche]

hmm thanks regardless 👍🏼

[outer pendant]

you cannot, unfortunately

[tidal niche]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[outer pendant]

it's instantiated at runtime when you load into the level, and it's hardcoded to be in the same position with the same settings (including the bounding volume) every time

[tidal niche]

well thanks that saves me hours of worrying about it at least

I take you dont have foggy weather for auralis then?

[outer pendant]

I do, bc it'll obscure the heck out of the ship area, but I might make a plugin that extends foggy weather bounds, it's just low priority lol

[tidal niche]

gotcha! yeah I understand it would be cool but honestly does not have that many cases where it's needed

[mortal zephyr]

Late reply, but if you're still having issues with Mesh Colliders, make sure to check this box under your mesh asset model settings!

Was super annoying but none of my meshes had collisions until I discovered that trick.

In general, good to avoid mesh colliders, but if you need em, this is the way!!

[green spear]

Zeekers needs to remake some of its code of the game so the modding would be more clear and also map making will have more options

[sleek saddle]

not really, it's something i can add in future lll updates

[green spear]

Maybe, but it would be easier for everyone if he change his code to be more flexible

Hard coding is a bad habit as a game dev

[sleek saddle]

forsure but stuff like this in particular is pretty low priority

[green spear]

[outer pendant]

I just don't understand why I can't find the code where the fog gets instantiated

[green spear]

Spaghetti code

[outer pendant]

I've gotten pretty good at untangling the spaghet

at least when it comes to finding when something happens

[sleek saddle]

I'd love to talk to Zeekers about some super light but incredibly benefical changes he could make

would also love to be hired

[green spear]

@sleek saddle as i remember well
LLL doesn't allow for custom scripts right now, right?
Because i was trying to figure out how to add story log to my moon manually
Occasionally I've encountered some prefabs to add custom terminal word, to generate action that should happen etc but I didn't managed to make it work, especially because I found another scripts that contains all the word scripts inside list and I'm sure it's dependent for everything to work

[green spear]

Pov: you can't contact zeekerss

[sleek saddle]

no lll allows custom scripts

[green spear]

Oh

🤔

[sleek saddle]

he's responded to a message i've sent before which was neat

[green spear]

Oh

[sleek saddle]

if he wants to reach out to the modding community about communication and changes i'm probably the person who would middleman that i think

[green spear]

Tbh im not even surprised why he doesn't want to hire anyone
After all, he is just 21
Literally 1 year older that me
For someone so young its a nightmare to even start small company, not to mention the costs to run it legally

[sleek saddle]

Oh no I totally get it

I do think I would be a pretty strong candidate if he does look though

[green spear]

Too bad he isn't here

[sleek saddle]

same age, pretty much same location, heavy experience in the codebase etc.

[sleek saddle]

he is he just doesn't respond

[green spear]

Oh
Never saw him online or smth

I thought he isn't here

Normally i would expect mods to give him special rank or something lol

[green spear]

You guys are from the same country?

[sleek saddle]

Yeah

He's From Australia, WA, I'm From Australia, Melbourne (Was actually born in WA funny enough)

[outer pendant]

The Upside Down

[sleek saddle]

I'd be down to move if required though (Not just for LC)

[outer pendant]

no wonder LC is so terrifying and silly

[green spear]

Damn
Kangaroo fighters

[green spear]

No way bro
Can't even search him up on the users list

Nvm

Found him

[whole spindle]

kinda wild how australian LC modding is alongside zeeks being aussie

[sleek saddle]

frl

[haughty lily]

Wait whaaaat bat your from Melbourne that’s crazy

I’m in some Victorian suburbs

[sleek saddle]

yippeeee

[haughty lily]

i double checked that everything was right and it's still not working

i double checked that everything had the right tags and bundles and whatnot

idk what could be causing this

[green spear]

Alright
I guess tommorow Ill try to figure out how to add working story logs for custom moons

If i get it to work then i try to even create tutorial

[cinder wasp]

i noticed starlancer moons contains all the scenes and stuff in the same prefab, how does it do this? currently i have bundles for the extended file for my moon + the scene but when i make multiple moons i want to know so it can be optimized

[outer pendant]

When you say prefab do you mean lethalbundle?

@cinder wasp

[cinder wasp]

oh yeah sorry

i dont know how i said prefab

[outer pendant]

np, I just put each extended level into StarlancerMoons.lethalbundle and each scene into StarlancerMoonScene (or w/e it's called lol)
But this also became the reason why I initially had to use duplicates of the enemytypes and spawnable map objects

[cinder wasp]

got it

[grave lodge]

Any idea why the screen is so tilted?

All the objects have no rotation

the camera is rotated idk how i managed to do that

[green spear]

I have no idea, but this happened to me too

Click on the axis box on the top right

For eg X

To make camera perfectly aligned to that axis

Should fix you

[grave lodge]

it did wooo

[tidal niche]

You set up local zones for fog and sky by changing 'global' to 'local' in their respective settings and then adding a box collider, correct?

[outer pendant]

Correct. Whenever the camera is in that volume, those settings will take effect
If you have overlapping bounds (say one local and one global) set the priority of the local one to override the global

[tidal niche]

holy shit after 3 days I finally figured out what caused my map glitch problem

[outer pendant]

What was it?

[tidal niche]

🙃

in sky/general volumes

[outer pendant]

ohh interesting

[green spear]

there is no way to add story logs

all i found was 2 files

one for all terminal keywords

and other for view command that actually shows storylogs

i guess LLL should have overwrite those files in order to add new entries or something

other than that i can't see any possible way

[cinder wasp]

functionality is broken currently i think

anyways is there any way to change the range of shadows on certain moons?

[green spear]

in the sun properties

[cinder wasp]

epic

[green spear]

there should be shadows attribiute

[cinder wasp]

found the shadows attribute but it doesn't seem to have a setting for range

[green spear]

show me

[green spear]

need to see whole

[green spear]

try to search up in diffirent tabs

like volumetric etc

[cinder wasp]

searched every tab, can't find it

[outer pendant]

Shadows should be in your sky and fog volume settings

[cinder wasp]

it is, thanke

[outer pendant]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-dance-dance-party-disco-cat-gif-22344448

[sleek saddle]

wooo

congrats homie

[outer pendant]

Thankee~ 💙

[knotty narwhal]

Well done!!! you deserve it ✨

that said, I'm having a bit of an issue lol

Unity wants me to have a mesh filter on my grass to use the "paint details" tool on my terrain. But I have no idea what to put inside that mesh filter and I can't find anything online :/

if I put nothing, Unity tells me its missing a mesh instead of mesh filter

[golden osprey]

If you're painting grass or trees on terrain, from what I've gathered you need a model (mesh filter). The function is specifically for adding 3D meshes that you can brush onto the surface as far as I know. I think the main distinction with details is the meshes can only have 1 texture while trees can be more complex.

[knotty narwhal]

Oh I see, I haven’t had issues with trees tho, perhaps my grass is more of a tree than grass??

[golden osprey]

If it has more than 1 texture it won't play nice is the main difference I've seen. Haven't played much with grass specifically

[knotty narwhal]

It has only one texture tho mmm

I guess I just don’t understand mesh filters

[golden osprey]

Yeah sorry I can't be much help. Hopefully Mr. Niche Internet Microcelebrity has a better answer

[knotty narwhal]

Lmfaooo thank you a lot anyways haha

[outer pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/space-jam-remark-resemble-foghorn-leghorn-gif-14871302

[outer pendant]

I'm unclear as to how you have a mesh renderer with no mesh

Are you using LODs per chance?

[knotty narwhal]

Wait what do you mean?

[knotty narwhal]

uhhh I should shouldn’t I?

But why is it asking me for a mesh filter? What is that?

[outer pendant]

Unless I'm misunderstanding something I don't see how this would render anything, even a plane has a mesh filter: Plane on it

[outer pendant]

up to you

If your model is low-poly enough, no need for an LOD system

Post a screenshot of everything related to your grass prefab

[knotty narwhal]

That’s pretty much everything there is to see

My tree prefab is pretty much exactly like this except with an LOD, why is it working?

[outer pendant]

LODs use mesh filters as well

There's nothing nested inside your grass prefab?

[knotty narwhal]

I’m sorry I’m not really used to the Unity language lol, what do you mean by nested?

Like there’s no mesh in it?

[outer pendant]

If you put something under an object (giving it a parent/child relationship) that's what I'm referring to as "nested"

like if you open the prefab

[knotty narwhal]

Oh yes sorry

[outer pendant]

are there more objects inside?

[knotty narwhal]

I’ll be able to check in like 45 minutes when I get home, I’m in class rn oops

but this is probably the problem, I think I didn’t create any parents

Maybe that’s the problem

I’ll try

[outer pendant]

That's not a problem in and of itself

But I'm thinking you have an object inside that's actually holding your mesh

[knotty narwhal]

Oh yeah

It’s like
grass1
-> default

I think I’m starting to understand what went wrong lol

[outer pendant]

The terrain painter requires that the root prefab its referencing have a mesh filter component, so if you make an empty parent object and put an object with the mesh under it, then try to use the empty parent object as the reference, the painter doesn't know what to do

[knotty narwhal]

you’re god damn right, I shouldn’t do stuff when I’m sleepy

I’ll try it out when I get home lol, thank you

[outer pendant]

You're welcome! Mr. Niche Internet Microcelebrity did, in fact, have a better answer 🤭

[knotty narwhal]

Lmaoo, big fan big fan!!

[onyx trout]

pretty sure at least 50 of these views are me

[outer pendant]

I'll take 'em regardless

[knotty narwhal]

The grass is real!!!! this is wonderful, thank you Captain Starlancer

this is starting to look really good

time for some bushes and shrubs

[golden osprey]

"starting to" as if it wasn't one of the coolest looking maps being worked on already

[barren plover]

Hi, i got a question, maybe it's more a unity issue.
I want to duplciate the snowcabin from level5Rend. I copy and then paste it on my map, but i'm unable to move the house from it position, only props can. Do you have an idea of why ?

[outer pendant]

You'll have to split the combined mesh (part of the tool that Nomnom implemented). The main mesh for the cabin is Cube.009 under Snow Cabin.
If you click the "in Scene" one, it'll decombine all meshes that use that mesh filter (which in this case should lead to the same result, bc nothing else uses the Snow Cabin's mesh)

[barren plover]

Thx ❤️ it work 🙂

[golden osprey]

Starting to see from experience how StarlancerAI began development I think. But since someone did all the hard work for me, I think I'll be able to create some absolutely devious things : )

[outer pendant]

I'm happy it's become such a desired tool in moon-makers' arsenals :3

[barren plover]

I got one more question, i've looked at the way the bridge fall is done, is it possible to add custom scripts like this on our map with ServerRPC and ClientRPC that will be used by the game ?

[outer pendant]

If you know how to do it, then sure. Any custom scripts would have to be referenced in an accompanying plugin though, the bundling process can't include it

However I do not personally know how to do it yet

[valid umbra]

Why can't you include it in the bundle?

Idk about custom moons, but I've made custom scripts just fine on my enemies end?

[outer pendant]

Hm, maybe I'm misremembering what I was told. The way I understood it was that, if referencing a script that's in a scene when its built, you'd have to activate said script with a plugin bc the scene wouldn't be able to build it into LC's c-sharp assembly, thus leading to a missing script reference in the scene

[valid umbra]

@sleek saddle would probably know, maybe it just works different with enemies, cuz I can just make a custom script, attach it to my enemy, and use it like other scripts

[knotty narwhal]

@outer pendant Would you happen to know how I can put terrain details on top of each other? right now they won't be placed on top of each other and are evenly separated

[outer pendant]

Uhh do you have access to a scatter/spacing value or anything?

[knotty narwhal]

yea

I thought putting it all at 0 would make them spawn on eachother?

[outer pendant]

Ah, they're already zeroed lol
Try deselecting everything but the one detail type you wanna place

Worst comes to worst you can just manually place the detail, which for special cases is probably the right call regardless

[knotty narwhal]

that doesn't work sadly

[knotty narwhal]

truee, but I'm trying to make a whole forest with very dense grass

so that's going to be quite the pain, especially since I have to rotate and resize every single grass object

I can also cope with the fact that we can't always have what we want

[outer pendant]

Ah, have you messed with the density scaling settings?

[knotty narwhal]

For each detail type?

[outer pendant]

Yea, if you go to edit them

[knotty narwhal]

it just makes some types less likely to be placed, but nothing about putting them on top of eachother, at some point it just reaches a max

are we talking about this?

[outer pendant]

Right, I was moreso seeing if it'd give you an effect

I was actually just about to mention that lol

[knotty narwhal]

well haha it's alright it looks fine, I just thought some more density might look cooler

[outer pendant]

Go into the package manager, search the unity registry, and download terrain tools, it'll give you some more advanced options to play around with

[knotty narwhal]

I'm pretty sure I have that already sadly

[outer pendant]

Rip

[knotty narwhal]

waiiit

do I?

yeah i do

shid

[outer pendant]

Then perish

[knotty narwhal]

I shall, thank you masterlancer

[knotty narwhal]

definitely an upgrade fr fr

[golden osprey]

Btw captain knight, just finished uploading the beta build for my moon. Still gotta touch it up in various ways but wanted to go ahead and thank you for helping me get it up in the first place

[knotty narwhal]

WOAH

this is sick!!

drugland!

[outer pendant]

Yoooo I love it

[golden osprey]

Thanks!

(I hope he hangs it up on the big space fridge)

[knotty narwhal]

How should I go about making events and triggers?

(Tough question I know)

But every tutorial I’ve found doesn’t apply at all to LC

Unless I’ve missed a document about that somewhere?

[outer pendant]

you'll have to make use of the InteractTrigger script

depending on what you're trying to do, check for anything in vanilla that might have it set up like you need

[knotty narwhal]

Oh vanilla has triggers and events? I don’t even know where lol

I can’t think of anything other than the bridge on Vow

[knotty narwhal]

Can the InteractTrigger script be activated with just a player walking by, without any button press?

I think I should just mess around by myself a bit

[outer pendant]

Yep, go look at Experimentation in the entry area

[knotty narwhal]

No wayy

[barren plover]

Hi, i got one more question 😓
I've generated my .lethalbundle file, it in unity playmode, but when i put the profile folder in r2mod at this location : \BepInEx\plugins\IAmBatby-LethalLevelLoader\LethalBundles but i dont see my moon in the "real" game

am i missing something ?

[cinder wasp]

ladders are really buggy for me. i copied them from vow, but for some reason players immediately warp to the top when interacting with them and fall off high up the ladder if they climb down

[outer pendant]

Did you make both bundles, one for scenes, the other for everything else?

[outer pendant]

@grave lodge was it you that dealt with ladder weirdness?

[grave lodge]

Yeah

Sorta

Idrk how i fixed it

I just copied over ladders from working stuff

[barren plover]

Is it the lethal bundle ?

[cinder wasp]

i'll try that, but one more question

how do i extend ladders?

[outer pendant]

yes, mark your Extended Level(s) as one lethalbundle, and then your scene(s) as another one

[barren plover]

What do you mean by activate the script ? For the test, i've made a script that rotate an object over time, in unity it work, but in real game it dont

[outer pendant]

I don't really know the method, sorry ^^; try asking in dev general

[barren plover]

Np, thx for your time ❤️

[knotty narwhal]

ain't no way, the garage door has a 3% chance to close?!

also why the hell does the building have a useless interior

[outer pendant]

Leftover dev junk from testing probably

[knotty narwhal]

i guess I can just copy his huge red trigger

I'm unsure why there aren't any audio reverb triggers outside the doors. Does interacting with the doors themselves change the audio?

[outer pendant]

Yep

They switch to a preset

Idk yet how to manipulate it correctly to get my ambience to not stop working tho

[knotty narwhal]

yeah me neither

I'm guessing I should assign sounds to these triggers too?

on top of the ship

uhh

[outer pendant]

You can do whatever you want to do :P experiment and explore the possibilities

[knotty narwhal]

yippeee

these two triggers were there by default tho

[outer pendant]

Yep

[knotty narwhal]

Will it screw something up if I absolutely destroy that huge one

[outer pendant]

Possibly

If you really wanna get rid of it, I'd test deactivating it first

But there's probably some reason Zeekers set it up like he did

[knotty narwhal]

true true, I think I'll keep it, but I'll change its sound

orrrr I'll create a new one

in case I screw it up

anyways i'll try stuff

[knotty narwhal]

awh hell nah

what the hell is even that

[outer pendant]

what did you do???????

[knotty narwhal]

I just put a custom ambience sound 😭

i did not put this

[outer pendant]

ya done goofed

[knotty narwhal]

for real for real

this fits on Bozoros, not my moon 😭

[tidal niche]

certified bozoros moment 😂

[royal void]

is that video recorded with the remade posterization shader, or has there been an assetripper update that I don't know about to make shaders work?

[cinder wasp]

OOH WAIT YOU'RE MAKING EMBER TWIN?

[knotty narwhal]

[ornate wagon]

LMAO that's really funny

Where tf did that air horn come from

[grave lodge]

ah so basically, you have to tweak stuff with the ladder trigger & its children

Then add more ladder meshes

be careful though since apparently ladders that are diagonal work weirdly

[cinder wasp]

i've seen it with my own three eyes, yeah

[grave lodge]

yepp

[cinder wasp]

unrelated the combined mesh uncombiner seems to obliterate most hanging lights which is very rough because they are very useful as they are lights

why does it always obliterate the most important props

[grave lodge]

Using the hanging lights in the dungeon tile prefabs might help

just disable the power off stuff

[knotty narwhal]

I'm going mad, this still isn't solved

this god damned goofy airhorn is still destroying my ears

Maybe it somehow can't find my sound?? and plays the first sound it can find?

[green spear]

show me all your reverb triggers

[knotty narwhal]

for this one

they're all broken so I guess fixing this one would fix all of them

[green spear]

Try setting any reverb preset

Eg outside

[green spear]

Changing properties of one object doesn't affect other
You need to copy values and paste them manually as far as I know

[knotty narwhal]

Oh yea I know, I meant like knowing the issue I'll probably be able to fix everything else

[knotty narwhal]

but sadly, 🎺

it didn't work :((

I'm so confused

[green spear]

Try to look around your scene
Maybe there is a audio object that plays this sfx once? @knotty narwhal

Also show me your audio reverb presets
It should be in systems

[knotty narwhal]

what's the point of all these triggers?

[outer pendant]

Look in the ripped assets for the airhorn sound, right click it, find references in scene

[green spear]

Around your ship you have triggers that changes reverb of sounds and also you can make them trigger wind sounds or play any sound you want honestly

[knotty narwhal]

why was this guy making the sound lmfao

I must've messed around a bit too much

this is so stupid

good news: no more airhorn!

[outer pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-horderbug-yippee-gif-gif-5658063361159083327

[knotty narwhal]

This is really weird, no sounds are playing

I've tried vanilla and custom sounds

I'm so confused

[outer pendant]

Do you get any errors?

[golden osprey]

Load bearing airhorn drum

[green spear]

im so confused rn

what does weather values do?

after update of my moon where i added few SFX's, adjusted environment and changed weather values, it crashes everytime you try to land on it

i have no clue what's wrong

[green spear]

2 hours of debugging and still no result

._.

[outer pendant]

Some of the weathers use the weather variables to set certain parameters, like flooded weather uses them for min and max flood height (or something similar), but foggy weather doesn't use them at all for some reason
Did you revert the weather changes?

[green spear]

nope

[outer pendant]

Show me your variables

[green spear]

im not even sure if its weather thing that crashes or smth

[outer pendant]

Probably not in this case

just for the sake of certainty, look at a vanilla SL and change the None variables to match (unless it's already matched)

[green spear]

vanilla doesn't use none

tho, i had that before and there was no issue at all

[outer pendant]

Hm, pretty sure I have it too

Does it give you any errors when you crash?

[green spear]

nope

[outer pendant]

Lovely, one of those

OH OH

Did you add details to your environment?

Like grass and stuff

[green spear]

i thought maybe LOD's causing crash but now i deleted all of those components and still no result

[green spear]

nope

[sleek saddle]

Gotta sleep and cant help but make sure terrain gpu instanced and material used is too

[green spear]

terrain is fine

[outer pendant]

Go to sleep you koala

[outer pendant]

You might have already tried this, but disable stuff in your hierarchy in chunks until the game stops crashing

Much easier than just throwing ideas around

[knotty narwhal]

Where are the Outside Hazards at in the hierarchy? I have none set but if they try to spawn I get stuck on random seed

Since there’s nothing set

[sleek saddle]

SelectableLevel

[knotty narwhal]

Perhaps I deleted it by accident because I can’t find it

[sleek saddle]

(Not in the scene)

[knotty narwhal]

Ah

[outer pendant]

Outside hazards? Or outside objects?

[knotty narwhal]

uhhh

I forgot damn it

I think objects

[outer pendant]

Are you trying to place things in the scene marked as hazards or anything?

[green spear]

one thing that bothers me a lot is that i can run my moon in unity editor

[outer pendant]

Yea the discrepancy there is unfortunate

Update on my tutorial's stats

[green spear]

btw

tf is this

[outer pendant]

uh

particle system I think?

[green spear]

how about that

[outer pendant]

Ignorable

Just a byproduct of being able to play in the editor

[outer pendant]

Also ignore

[green spear]

yeah

so

im clueless rn

hm

[outer pendant]

Just focus on this for now

[green spear]

lethal lib got update

[outer pendant]

Don't update project plugins

Unless necessary

[green spear]

alright

[golden osprey]

Anyone happen to know why a local post processing volume would work fine when placed into a scene but not when it's a component of a prefab (assuming the same position and blend distance)?

[knotty narwhal]

nvm that wasn't the solution

arghj

[outer pendant]

Are they duplicates of something that you're using elsewhere?

[knotty narwhal]

I'm sorry I'm not sure I understand

[outer pendant]

Like how I explained with enemy duplicates, anything that's referenced more than once across all of your bundled SLs has to be unique.

[knotty narwhal]

Well the problem is that I don’t want any outside objects

I don’t understand how I could accidentally duplicate it :((

[outer pendant]

Did you accidentally leave the list with an empty element?

[knotty narwhal]

Perhaps

[outer pendant]

bc I don't have any outside objects on my moons

So that sounds like the most likely cause

[knotty narwhal]

this is the problem isn't it

[outer pendant]

99% probability

[knotty narwhal]

damn it lol, thank you

[outer pendant]

np :P

[knotty narwhal]

I think in your tutorial you kept it to none incase we wanted a spawnable object, I just forgot to completely remove it

[outer pendant]

I should have emptied it out, otherwise it would've locked up like yours

[knotty narwhal]

meh no worries it's more of a skill issue on my part lol

[green spear]

i can't

still haven't figured out the issue