[Ported] Giant Specimens

[thorn sage]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-nervous-sweating-concerned-monkas-gif-15154684

how'd that happen

[calm widget]

no idea

why mod when u can play a car drive with friends

we crashed

[chilly field]

press E

[calm widget]

we spent 5 hours driving

[chilly field]

add a digit

[calm widget]

kawaii

[near portal]

What a cute fella

[magic wyvern]

@calm widget What does the driftwood do?

[calm widget]

A lot, it chases and throws you around, it eats other enemies, etc

[magic wyvern]

It is smaller than the forest Giant? I have not seen it yet.

[calm widget]

No

It's not out yet

[amber parrot]

They are all bigger than Forest Giant.

Forest Giant is small and shy. (?)

He is like the Messi of the giants.

[magic wyvern]

thanks!

[magic wyvern]

Ahh no wonder. I saw it in the config and was curious.

[ebon thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/ميسي-rkh16-gif-21967443

[calm widget]

@dim hull tilteeeeed

i need rigging help agaaain

[dim hull]

Hello!

[dim hull]

What ails you my child

[calm widget]

i kinda forgot a lot tbh, i remember i needed to do some stuff with the knees and elbows tho

watching a 50 minute tutorial for it right now lmao

my problem is that my model isnt a T pose or an A pose, so idk if ill be able to make them working fine

okay i added polearms for knees, elbows and a main controller at hte bottom

[silk zodiac]

MF THROWIN UP DUSES

https://tenor.com/view/peace-peace-out-baronduki-me-gif-25392780

[near portal]

Now that the tree giant Is killable are you gonna make It too?

[calm widget]

i guess yeah

[amber parrot]

The Redwood will take 1000 hits to die. 😩

Or him hitting his little toe on a rock, idk.

[calm widget]

lol

redwood wont be killable

still way too big

the others will be atleast

also @dim hull i screwed up somewhere in making my IK constraints

okay nvm i just had to unparent the bone

lol

[amber parrot]

But my idea of ​​him hitting his little toe on a rock was a good idea, right? ':(

[calm widget]

if i could somehow detect htat it hit its toe, then maybe

[near portal]

Yes that makes sense
I think you Need 21 hit to kill a giant

[dim roost]

will Redwood be able to eat Driftwood?

[calm widget]

probably yeah

the driftwood will run away though

[dim roost]

... really lookin forward to that Giant moon idea if it happens

[full ruin]

like the whole moon is a giant?

[dim roost]

whole moon home to giants

and nothing else

except maybe Baboon Hawks for the Driftwoods to nibble on

waitaminute... what about enemies that dont naturally spawn outside? like the Coil-Head on Asteroid-13, or the [Aaron] on Fission-C?

if that's the case... we're gonna need lotsa particle variants. concrete, metal, blood, mask fragments, black leaves, shotgun shells...

[dim hull]

@calm widget keep in mind that if your resting pose is like that then any movements will be limited by that, so if this guy's gotta raise his arms it'll be more difficult

Well not difficult but it'll look weird potentially

[calm widget]

how would i change the resting pose from here 😭

ofc if you'd like to do it, i dont mind

[dim hull]

You'd have to edit the mesh itself

[dim hull]

Nuh-uh, this is your baby

[calm widget]

but yeah, the reference was like dis, so i couldnt really go too out of the way

[calm widget]

fork

[dim hull]

It's not a huge issue if the animations are relatively limited

[calm widget]

its gonna be a quadrupedal creature

do you think there'll be a problem there?

also what if i just make a new resting pose after i weight everything?

[dim hull]

Hmmm

[dim hull]

Nah nah nah the weighting is what becomes hard with an inflexible starting pose

You want the nodel at rest to be in the most neutral stance possible to allow for good motion

This is why A and T poses are done

[calm widget]

bleh

kill me

[dim hull]

Ok

[calm widget]

but if u kill me

you wont get the driftwood

🥺

[dim hull]

Make up your mind damn

Anyway it won't be too hard to fix

You said it's gonna be quadruped?

[calm widget]

yee

[dim hull]

Gorilla style or more like a typical animal?

[calm widget]

i think gorilla style

i considered recording what i wanted, but thats weird, im not putting myself on all 4s for you

[dim hull]

Anyway

You just need to have the arms further out from the body and less bent

[calm widget]

i can probably do that!

[dim hull]

I know!

[calm widget]

@dim hull how do i make a bone look different to other bones

i wanna make this one look different to the octopuses

[dim hull]

You cannnn

But lemme look up the specifics

[calm widget]

okie

[dim hull]

https://youtu.be/AgCW2oBCdBo?si=A1kObAKEngZqSq7x

For bone color specifically

Cause you can recolor

https://youtu.be/Dw0wssU1DXA?si=9sjOOTqrcFtcdkIK

Here for shape

[calm widget]

sankyu

[unkempt locust]

What about hitting him with a shovel on his nape

[dim hull]

Attack on Titan

[calm widget]

@dim hull what do you think mom

[calm widget]

I need to put a proper credits pin here somewhere, it's insane how much help I've received for this mod lol, I'll organise something proper soon

Oh also, expect a rework for redgiant by the time v50 drops (assuming it takes more than a week)

[ebon thistle]

working with people on a mod is fr the best shit ever,!!! glad people are so interested in this :J

you 100% deserve all the attention

[ebon thistle]

also GAAH THIS MODEL IS SO SICK

[dim roost]

dont hurt him. he just a hungry boi :c

[dim hull]

show from the front?

[elfin flower]

what does he do

[forest mulch]

does the griddy

[elfin flower]

tbh, he should

[chilly field]

let me introduce

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gemumoddo/EnemyInteractions/

[dim roost]

so... for movement. 4 words.
Lanky Kong Walk Cycles

or at least similar

because there's no way you can convince me this critter aint built like a simian

[pliant vault]

bro went to the gym and got some gains

[calm widget]

He do be buff

[calm widget]

No clue what that means

He'll be quadrupedal, like a gorilla

[dim roost]

never played DK64 or watched?

[calm widget]

Nope

I'm not old

[dim roost]

valid. disregard then

[dim hull]

Are his hands upsidedown?

[calm widget]

Someone liked it, yes, by accident

[dim hull]

It's quirky

This limb position is gonna serve you much better for sure

I'd maybe lift the arms a lil more but only if you have not already started weight painting

[calm widget]

Bet

[calm widget]

That's not even possible

[dim hull]

ah ah ah no spoilers!

do not!

[calm widget]

Not even a spoiler, idfk what this guy is talking about 😭

But yes

No potential spoilers here

[twilit drum]

||will old birds attack redwoods?||

is that better

i mean like

[calm widget]

||doubtful||

[pliant vault]

||if they do i can see the red giant ripping it in half, with a explosion||

[calm widget]

||Oh that's probably possible||

[dim roost]

monster movie scene

[pliant vault]

||do feel like the old bird would attack the giant to start the agro mainly so it dont just hunt everything down, but it would be sick||

[calm widget]

These are my current plans, i think i had more but i just forgot about em, but this update will take a while (couple weeks) cuz mainly waiting on LLL which is waiting on v50 to officially drop

[trim flax]

it wont be weeks

[calm widget]

didnt it take like 3 weeks for v47?

[safe maple]

the crossed out ones are already done?

[calm widget]

the opposite

lol

i know its backwards, but im lazy and this is the changelogs

also forgot one

redacted is the new enemy, but no spoilers here

if i manage to get it all done before the LLL import is possible, i have some other ideas about more enemies

[safe maple]

👀

[calm widget]

speaking of the new enemy, let me know if you'd like a model or smthn for the driftwood whenever you'd like to make a plushie for em, i think they've turned out much better than the redwood giant this time @subtle gale

[subtle gale]

ill let you know

[restive terrace]

I’d want a model 🫣

[calm widget]

sure, ill send it in a bit, doign some last touches rn

[calm widget]

did u want the fbx or just a picture lol

[restive terrace]

For now a picture is fine, tho when i have time i might ask for fbx too

[calm widget]

weighting be like

surprisingly automatic did a really good job

i only have to make a few tiny changes

[subtle gale]

thats my sleep paralysis demon

[calm widget]

should i give it eye balls actually

[restive terrace]

yesss

also i'd love it if you could give it a greenscreen background / transparent one 😅

[calm widget]

why does he look so sad

[restive terrace]

with greenscreen it would be easier to cut out the body

[chilly field]

[calm widget]

ill try giving it a green background lol

[restive terrace]

you could add something different colour too green might be too close of a colour at the edges idk

i love those puppy eyes

[calm widget]

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS

whoops caps

[chilly field]

the green looks good

[calm widget]

wooow you're so rude

are you saying the giant doesnt look good smh

(/j)

[chilly field]

nah the green just looks good

[calm widget]

i should do this again and make it an emote

[chilly field]

the emote that'll replace

[calm widget]

greener green if u need

[chilly field]

i prefer the other green

[calm widget]

time to emote

accidently gave him eyebrows

[amber parrot]

He looks like he wants a hug. XD

[calm widget]

this is what he reminds me of

https://tenor.com/view/crash-gif-20770276

[amber parrot]

Like when after the hug you don't let him bite your head:

[calm widget]

fr

[terse pollen]

in the lc wiki it says that the forest keeper is related to the bracken, is a future forest keeper variation planned to have bracken-ish behaviour?

[calm widget]

what?

N-no he's not?

[gray dock]

The forest keeper bestiary says "Believed to share a common ancestor with rapax-folium"
Nothing more on that

[chilly field]

i mean forest keeper is a plant and bracken is a plant

[calm widget]

That's prolly as far as it goes

#1212451384021221457 Already making a planter bracken anyway iirc

[chilly field]

the first thing i saw when on this thread was "yeah like a yandere"

this thread scares me

[restive terrace]

something like that 👀

[restive terrace]

i think you saw the meme tsundere hygrodere variant 😳

She's friendly tho
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1212451384021221457/1224587774682857492/image.png?ex=661e093d&is=660b943d&hm=81205ae8d772d34a30d93394a2b6eaf9543082856fe8b4b6ac5229200ab0106c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[chilly field]

did they steal my joke?

wait YOU DID

bracken tho

[restive terrace]

i dont even remember writing that lmao

[chilly field]

lmfao

[pliant vault]

I like the eyes, another color that could maybe work could be red

White does hit different which I do like as well

[mortal moss]

v50 spoilers ||do you plan on adding interactions between the giant specimens and the old bird?||

[calm widget]

||yes, later on||

[mortal moss]

epic 👍

[pliant vault]

||if the old bird gets ripped in half and done explodes, I could see it dropping The Big Nut or other metal stuff, giving a reason to explore the map sometimes||

[pliant vault]

When later on arives

[calm widget]

its not my mod's place to add other enemy drops lol

[amber parrot]

¿Is 200 a good probability or a low probability?

I don't mean good by necessarily high, I mean something like...3 trips to Vow, meeting Redwood once.

[calm widget]

you'll probably see redwood 7 out of 10 runs

[amber parrot]

Thank you so much. '^'/

I just needed to check if my girlfriend doesn't get laggy watching Redwood and I didn't know if 200 was enough.

I'm too lazy to edit that and increase it and then decrease it again.

[calm widget]

lol, redwood shouldnt cause any lag itself, its not very high poly

[amber parrot]

It's mainly because my girlfriend doesn't have a very powerful PC.

[calm widget]

thats fair

[amber parrot]

I don't think it's going to be the mod's fault, it's more the PC's.

[calm widget]

yea

good luck tho!

[amber parrot]

My girlfriend has no performance issues when she watches the RedWood. '^'

So, new monster in my modpack.

The only thing, I feel that when I have this mod installed, I feel that not as many giants appear even though the Redwood is not present.

[calm widget]

weird, but when the redwood does spawn, the chances for normal giants boost by 2x

4x* default

you can change the multipler in configs

[amber parrot]

Well, that seems even more strange to me, because we went to Vow ecplisando and the only giant I saw was the Redwood. X'D

But I thought it was normal, because when reading the configuration, I misunderstood that section.

I thought the spawn of giants is reduced by 4x when Redwood appears. 😂

[minor nymph]

o you just remmoved the extra textures?

Have you tried substance painter?

I've heard it's pretty good

[calm widget]

extra textures?

[minor nymph]

hand and feet

[calm widget]

nah i kept them, i just made them the same colour so i can easily change em

[minor nymph]

o

also bth (imo) i think the giants kinda look better with no eyes

[empty bay]

I love substance painter but also money

[amber parrot]

@calm widget I should have recorded this more times and in vanilla moons, but when I have the mod installed, no giants appear except Redwood. Here's an example, although it's in Acidir and I don't know if it's useful, but the map was eclipsed.

Sorry for the ping.

[empty bay]

Could be power level maxing out

[amber parrot]

I thought about that, but I went to maps like Vow or March where giants usually appear with the mod installed and never appear.

But when I have it disabled, the giants are there.

I can keep testing in case I'm forgetting something.

[empty bay]

I think Redwoods could do with having a reduced power level tbh, seeing as they aren't necessarily a huge threat to the player

[viral tusk]

The default weights for the redwood are way too high imo, the weights by default are a lot higher than normal giants on any map

So you'll likely see the redwood vs normal giants

[calm widget]

Buddy

The power level is 1

For redwood

[empty bay]

Ah, well, nvm then

[amber parrot]

But sometimes I don't see either the normal giants or the redwoods.

[empty bay]

I must be misremembering

[calm widget]

Including forest giants? Cuz rn it's the only custom giant

[chilly field]

yeah thats way too high smh

[viral tusk]

I mean it is random, so sometimes you just wont have either. I've had days where nothing spawns till like 8 or 9

[calm widget]

Nou

[amber parrot]

Sorry, just the normal giants don't appear, the Redwood does appear, although I only saw them when the moons were eclipsed.

[amber parrot]

Hmm, maybe, idk, I'll keep checking then.

It seems strange to me especially when I go to eclipsed moons and even if I do a complete run they don't appear.

[viral tusk]

The redwood also eats normal giants so once one spawns you wont find many normal giants around it

[amber parrot]

Well, I'll keep testing. '^'

[viral tusk]

In my testing recently spawns seemed normal, but I lowered the redwood to around the weight of the normal giant

[amber parrot]

What would?

What would be the normal weight?

[viral tusk]

I used LLL to find the default weights of vanilla spawns on all moons and then adjusted the redwood accordingly. For example here is vow in LLL, ignore what the modded monsters have, the weights are set in their own configs

Tho I think I actually kept vow at 100

[amber parrot]

Okay, that helps me, thank you very much.

[viral tusk]

Actually the LLL config does update with the correct weights, disregard that last part of my last message 😅

forgot that vow has a really high weight for the normal giant

[calm widget]

when the redwood giant spawns, forest giants get a 400 spawn weight instead of 100 :p

on default atleast

unless u changed my mod's configs for multipliers

[calm widget]

check you havent made the forest giant multiplier spawn weight to 0 in my configs

[viral tusk]

I knew that, I just forgot that normal giants have a weight of 100 on vow lol

[calm widget]

lel

[viral tusk]

My group loves your mod and are very eagerly awaiting the next giant 😄

[calm widget]

soon! probably

[viral tusk]

We especially had a lot of fun the last session because I finally set the config up correctly to spawn them on LLL moons. Very nice touch to a lot of maps

[calm widget]

noice, yeah the update to LL by @rocky sparrow was a god send, and not just that, this mod wouldnt be here without them :p

[viral tusk]

LL update was huge, finally allowed half the mods we had to function on LLL moons

Sadly it also came with a lot of config work on my end but I think I got everything working now 😅

[calm widget]

lol, thats just a benefit

[viral tusk]

I assume the Modded value in the whistle spawn config works for LLL moons? We haven't found one yet but the weight is low so they're pretty rare

[calm widget]

yeah it should work

[viral tusk]

DIdn't really want to add every moon to the list just to have the same value set for them all XD

[livid aurora]

Has v50 came out officially yet?

I'm wondering if it's worth modding the beta version till then

[rare vigil]

Nope

[dim roost]

Soon™️

[ebon thistle]

omg shoutout :3

[ebon thistle]

SHE'S NOT A YANDERE ;m;

i'll do everything in my power to unyandere the aloe

[elder coral]

So looking at the mangrove's body

Will it walk like a gorilla

Or will it stand upright?

[minor nymph]

afaik it will be quadrupedal

[elder coral]

That sounds scary lol

[minor nymph]

is the LLL thing out yet?

If it is I'll make the ducks on LLL to learn it

[viral tusk]

LethalLib works with LLL now if that's what you're asking

[minor nymph]

wait wha

oh no

apparently LLL is going to be doing something

[viral tusk]

👀

[calm widget]

problem in the next week or so or if v50 drops soon, the code for items enemies etc's done for LLL i believe

[amber parrot]

I'll try again today when I get back from work.

[subtle gale]

that looks awesome

[midnight verge]

bro is looking gigantic and huggable

🤗

[calm widget]

lol

it took me a while but i managed to figure out throwing

[midnight verge]

like it can grab n yeet players or it’s yeeting stuff @ players?

[calm widget]

it grabs players and yeets em

thats enough of working on driftwood for today though

i have some new animations i need to implement

for the redwood

[amber parrot]

Okay, the only thing that changed was what moons it will appear on, I hope it works this time. '^'/

[calm widget]

Glgl

[calm widget]

Teaser animations and a random video in my gallery

Also I'm not the one making animations this time, that's why they're so goooood, all credit to @winged trench :3

[abstract relic]

Will you make his skin less smooth in the future?

[restive terrace]

@winged trench is the goat

[calm widget]

If you're looking for some sort of a more 3d look, then maybe if some texturer that really knows their shit with normal maps etc extends a hand then definitely

[gray dock]

@winged trench That looks amazing

[terse wedge]

Dudes out on a stroll

[winged trench]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-gif-27468005

[amber parrot]

Well, I already saw a normal giant with the mod.

So, maybe my configuration was broken before.

The bad thing is that of the 42 mods that I have, I don't know which one lowers the fps from 60 to 45, although it doesn't matter much, I'm afraid when I go lag and those fps of 45 drop to 15 fps instead of 30. 😩

[calm widget]

Lmao

Rip

42 ain't much, u can send images of em and ill take a lot

(Not phone images :3)

[amber parrot]

Saving screenshots from Steam Deck and sending them to my device didn't work when using r2dmodman, I could only record. XD

Oh, wtf, the quality, what happened to it.

[calm widget]

Hmm I'm not too sure tbh actually

[calm widget]

@limpid whale do you see anything performance heavy there?

[amber parrot]

Well, at least I can play well, I'm just more worried that my friends won't be able to play properly due to fps drops or lag.

So when the fps go from 60 to 45 it worries me because then I assume that they will do worse. XD

[subtle gale]

monke tree

[limpid whale]

LethalExpansionCore and Wesley's most likely

[calm widget]

Oh he also doesn't use LLL fixed

[limpid whale]

Yeah

[lilac dragon]

Bro pulled out the Content Warning camera

[minor nymph]

nah too much resolution

cut it back by like 3x

[lilac dragon]

Never abandoning Wesley’s

[limpid whale]

I'm waiting to use Wesley's

Needs to be on LLL

[amber parrot]

I don't really understand what LLL fixed does.

[lilac dragon]

Nuh uh

[calm widget]

Fixes some bugs before LLL's v50 update, some important ones too iirc

[lilac dragon]

Simply deal with the issues

(I don’t eeven know what the issues are)

[amber parrot]

Well, I never had a problem with LLL, so, I don't know if I'm lucky or I never realized it. 😂

Oh wait, this happens to me.

[calm widget]

Lol

[minor nymph]

sponsored by toyota

[midnight verge]

movement is monkey like

[elder coral]

Thats how it walks!? Thats terrifying dude

[dim roost]

absolutely twisted, just like the concept art. love it

[dim roost]

revamping that crappy Waterwood Giant concept from a little while ago. on actual paper this time, too 🤪

[silk zodiac]

making incredible progress 0-0

[calm widget]

AI might be done actually lol, there's some stuff I still haven't added that I need to add, but if I release the enemy now it would work fine (I don't have the animations ready so not releasing now)

[pliant vault]

||any secret documents we could peek at for how he will work?||

[opal hill]

Is this mod broken with version 50?

[dim hull]

most mods will be

[opal hill]

Ik that but is this broken?

[ebon thistle]

mos def

[sudden lichen]

Our guardian angel

saved us from giants on our way back

[calm widget]

Lol

[midnight verge]

when u blow the whistle, does the red giant go to the location of the player or to the last whistle blow location?

[calm widget]

It starts walking towards the last whistle blow location but loses interest after about going halfway

[midnight verge]

spam whistle blowing intensifies

[calm widget]

oh also, the redwood giant is killable now

just not by players

[wise briar]

[limpid whale]

Lemme guess

Old Birds can murder it

[thorn sage]

old birds are the apex predator

[wise briar]

its obviously hoarding bugs that can kill it

[midnight verge]

what about earth leviathan?

summon em with dune-style thumpers

[thorn sage]

YIPPIEEEEE

[calm widget]

you'd need quite a few but yeah

[calm widget]

nah

the mouth aint dat big

[calm widget]

damn, now i cant tease it anymore

[thorn sage]

what if you made the redwood giant pick those worms out of the ground

😳

[restive terrace]

You said WHAT

[narrow sequoia]

"Mmm... Gummy worm."

[restive terrace]

Xu do you have pics of the plushies? Maybe i could make them out to be loadingscreens

[calm widget]

if i give you the model will you make a green screen yourself?

[restive terrace]

for the plushies i was thinking i could work around the background and wont need to greenscreen them

[calm widget]

alright, ill send u a pic later, just a bit busy rn

[restive terrace]

yeah no worries, also yes for later background I could make the green screens myself

👀

|| huggy boi ||

[midnight verge]

gigantic & huggable

[calm widget]

lol looks amazing

[restive terrace]

oh wait not huggy enough

[thorn sage]

||WHAT THE HEEEEEEEEEEECK||

[restive terrace]

Had an idea about a the redwood not being able to fit the loading screen - not sure if its going to be one

for reference these images would look like this one (it's in my FNAF themed menu - Foxy)

[calm widget]

noice

[restive terrace]

👀

you could also add some random texts for loadingscreen - they would be randomly selected

[gray dock]

Kinda gives me scp containment breach vibes

[restive terrace]

|| Dont look at poor driftwood - super unpolished stuff, just thought i might drop in this and see what you guys think, esp. Xu ||

[lilac dragon]

Kinda hard to read the text

[restive terrace]

yeah i figured, i'll work on it

[thin edge]

probabaly already been asked but does it work with v50?

[restive terrace]

Giantspecimens? Right now it doesnt afaik cuz it depends on lethallib right?

[thin edge]

oh it does mb I thought it didnt rely on it

[restive terrace]

Most custom enemies are kinda f’d they either use csync which doesnt work for v49 anymore or use lethallib that is i think holding off the update until v50 is officially in place.

[restive terrace]

maybe this one? 👀
#1220909278198497410 message

[sudden lichen]

This is gonna be so sad seeing our boy lose to ||old birds||, i was hoping he was gonna mess them up too
And nothing we can do
Queue the sad attack on titan violin music that played everytime the scouts screwed up

[restive terrace]

I think redwoods gonna be able to take down a few before dying to them

[sudden lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/eren-aot-attack-on-titan-shingeki-no-kyojin-kick-gif-10283568

[sudden lichen]

Please

[pliant vault]

Can't wait to see him rip them robots in half

[ebon thistle]

spoilers

unless this is a redwood only mechanic, in that case you good

[dim roost]

uuuuh question. did the wesley moon internal naming switch to the "Level" format? current config has them set to that

[dim roost]

guessin so since the redwoods are still spawning

[calm widget]

He didn't change his format, LL just started to work better with LLL

[dim roost]

nice

[dim roost]

huh, that one dodged my radar

oh, there were 6 moons pushed

[elder coral]

All I can think of when thinking about Old birds fighting the Redwood giant is Pacific Rim

[limpid whale]

@calm widget time to push that update for your giant mod for V50

LL updated

[calm widget]

V50 would include an LLL update :p

For when I import to LLL

[limpid whale]

Yeah but you said you fixed your mod on the LethalLib end for now for V50 right? Batby pushed the update for LethalLib that fixes the issues with V50

and also the update remains compatible with V49

[calm widget]

My enemy never stopped working

All lethal lib did was make it so they can't naturally spawn on v50, I was still able to do a bunch of stuff on v49 with 0 changes from my v50 code

[calm widget]

I'll consider updating just so it's out

[thin edge]

okay so I was able to spawn in the giant

via chat commands

but it just sits there

and doesent attack giants

it might be due to chat commands, since the mod had issues with dance tools

[thin edge]

had this errors spam

same with the gnomes mod

[calm widget]

Fineee I'll update it in like 5 hours

[calm widget]

@minor nymph just copy paste the new line of sight function in the beta and put it inside of your code, it's not a big chunk, feel free to copy the one in my pinkgiant.ai file as it would be the exact same, it's called rglineofsight or something similar

Copy paste so that you'll still be compatible with v49

I made this change about a week ago but been busy adding stuff to do an update

[calm widget]

okay so sound ranges are kinda fucked rn, just tell me what you think later, and ill rewrite how far/loud they are when i've got time

[thin edge]

bet

[calm widget]

ill be releasing in a bit the v50 compat, just doing some final touches with navmesh

[limpid whale]

💜

[limpid whale]

How's the update coming along?

[calm widget]

decently, im dealing with some issues off LC rn but im working on some new animations in the side of that

[limpid whale]

Ooh

[calm widget]

@coarse hatch can i recruit/steal you for some sounds?

i just remembered i cant release the new enemy, i have no sounds 😂

[restive terrace]

hes a madboi

[gray dock]

The Driftwood would be hilarious on Gratar, just flinging people off the map lmao

[tepid knot]

so the driftwood does that roar thing and damages in a radius and also flings people around?

[terse wedge]

Make sure there would be like a roaring radius affect type thing
So you can at least be aware of the threat range if so
Also itd look cool

[amber parrot]

I would try to help, but I already have work to do with the Biodiversity sounds. 😂

[coarse hatch]

STEAL ME

STEAL ME PLEASE

in a non

sus way

please

[zenith knoll]

Lmao

[coarse hatch]

i added that because i saw someone typing and i was worried lmao

[limpid whale]

@calm widget update soon? ;o

[thin edge]

At this point you should have the modded role for audio lmao

[coarse hatch]

fr bruh. i have one offa wish.com

[thin edge]

Lmao

Nah you can only help xiolin if they give u modded role 🤣

[winged trench]

Man, these animations look sick, who made these? Also, the running animation doesnt seem to loop 💀

Also, i feel like hes roaring a bit too often imo

[feral cipher]

Yeet

[silk zodiac]

Monke

[mortal tree]

Pissin myself when this drops

Is this giant also going to have interactions with its cousins

[calm widget]

He detects people in 30 meter radius, and damages people in 20 feet every 0.4 seconds or so for 2 seconds (not much damage)

[calm widget]

Sure, you want me to dm you the sounds I need or just say em here?

[calm widget]

Heartbroken

[calm widget]

Maybe? I'll try to get it refined but all I can prolly do is release a working redwood

[calm widget]

Yeah ofc

[coarse hatch]

you can do either. it doesnt matter to me :D

[limpid whale]

That's fine, I wanna see the big boy walk around when I play V50

:3

[limpid whale]

I'll be starting stream in an hour btw c;

Just cus I plan to play both V50 and V49 today 😅 so I wanna start a bit earlier

[calm widget]

need a sound for when its spawning, a sound for when it slashes an enemy, footstep sounds for when its walking and then when its running (can be the same but running is a different animation so prolly shouldnt be same), need a scream sound, a sound for eating other enemies (it dips its hand into their dead bodies and eats em), a death sound where it kinda falls over.
tell me if you need any specific animations looking upclose (i dont have eating or death animation currently, but the others ye)

[calm widget]

hmmm alright, you prolly wont see the drift wood then, ill update the mod in like 10 20 minutes

[limpid whale]

Oki ^^ dw when the Driftwood update does push I'mma stream it lol

I'm excited for more Xu giants

[compact plank]

So the whistle I found was apart of this mod eh? Okay, what does it do-?

[calm widget]

||it attracts the red giant to your position||

[compact plank]

Ah ||to eat giants|| cool!

I just found it in the shop one day when i added it, wondering what it came from so, had to see:3

Ty

[limpid whale]

Waiting for that update 💜

[calm widget]

alright alright ill release it

you should notice some new animations for the redwood

[limpid whale]

Let's goooo

[limpid whale]

I hope that means the sliding bug will officially be fixed

:3

Cus it would always happen on Auralis for me

LOL

[calm widget]

i think it did actually

[limpid whale]

Let's go

[calm widget]

well its eben uploaded

had to delay cuz problems

[limpid whale]

Yeah I saw you accidentally uploaded it with a diff name

Lol

[calm widget]

yea was trying out a new method for uploading

[limpid whale]

Ooh ;o

[calm widget]

v 1.8.0 QoL + v50 compat

• Added BMX-Lobby Compatibility for public lobbies.
• Added dependency -> EnumUtils, allows me to setup custom causes of death for when you scan dead players :3.
• Fixed plushie sounds being client-sided.
• Made mod compatible for v50.
• Improved footstep range colliders for shockwaves.
• Reworked all Redwood Giant animations and added a new one with a roar with its own custom sound.
• Added a ship hitbox that prevents giants from approaching it/dealing damage there.
• Almost done making the Driftwood Giant.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/XuXiaolan/TheGiantSpecimens/
currently uploading

[dim roost]

Driftwood gonna be good

[limpid whale]

@calm widget

You broke the plushie

Got stuck on random seed

Lol

[calm widget]

blame unity

ill update rq

[limpid whale]

Looks like it broke all the scraps

DX

[calm widget]

ironically enough it broke everything except the driftwood, that i didnt register

[winged trench]

yeah i just wanted to say, Reddy doesnt move or work at all it seems, same with the whistle

[calm widget]

they should work now!

we

well*

more like in 30 minutes

lol

[limpid whale]

@calm widget did you fix the Giant too?

[wintry minnow]

Wait

[limpid whale]

it's standing there still doing nothing

LOL

[wintry minnow]

is 1.8.0 v50 AND v49 supported

or just v50

[calm widget]

1.8.1

[calm widget]

it should be, is it still not with 1.8.1?

[wintry minnow]

ill just wait a bit before updating

[calm widget]

it works for me in 1.8.1, granted im manually spawning it, ig ill try getting a natural spawn in abit

[wintry minnow]

👍

[limpid whale]

I'll try 1.8.1 in a bit ^^

[silk zodiac]

whats "Added BMX-Lobby Compatibility for public lobbies."?

[calm widget]

its a mod that lets people know when they're looking for public modded lobbies what mods they're missing

[silk zodiac]

ohhhhh BMX's lobbycompat

[calm widget]

yes?

[silk zodiac]

the way you worded it was alittle weird

[calm widget]

the name is in the message you sent me 😭

[silk zodiac]

thought it was a acronym, like lol(laugh out loud)

[calm widget]

yea it is

Bobbie Max Xilo

BMX

[silk zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-face-slap-seriously-reaction-meme-gif-26257470

[feral kettle]

how does the redwood interact with the new outside enemy?

[silk zodiac]

it dont 👍

[empty bay]

Yet

[feral kettle]

do redwoods get targeted and attacked or just left alone?

[candid dune]

Why Gorilla like movement?

I thought he'd be more aristocratic while cactus like this

[dim roost]

joint placements

[calm widget]

You want a top hat or smthn for him?

[viral tusk]

The redwood seems to be spawning on moons where I have the weight set to 0

[coarse hatch]

@calm widget not tryin to like...shamelessly delay your update. but a song of mine recently exploded and ive been kinda busy with music stuff. ill get on it as soon as possible tho

[wet flare]

what does it mean that EnemyAI LoS method got deletos and replaced with a different name? does that actually matter for functionality or will it work on v50 fine?

[limpid whale]

It's already updated for V50.

Someone changed the chart

Cus I updated it earlier to say 1.8.1 and that it was supported

[calm widget]

Is Modded@ set to 0, also any specific moon?

[viral tusk]

I don't have anything set for Modded, just specific maps set to 0. It seemed to work before these last updates

[calm widget]

Can you show your config?

[viral tusk]

The map we were having issues with specifically was Secret Labs

Could it be using the Driftwood config? I haven't touched it and it has Modded@100

[calm widget]

Nope, driftwood config shouldn't be used

Hmm

Send ur mod code

I'll give it a look

[viral tusk]

018ebbd1-2f01-f845-578d-4b02d755311f or my pack LethalCosmos should work

[calm widget]

its a lil strong

[V50 compat] TheGiantSpecimens

[dim roost]

i love it. i fucking love it.

i recommend makin it analyze you a little more before yeeting ya. let em get a really good look at ya

[calm widget]

how dare you ye its all good ofc

[calm widget]

@limpid whale iirc, isnt there some vanilla problem with how the giant targets players? like it takes a while to notice them the first time and from then it always sees the player immediately?

[limpid whale]

In v49 I think so, doesn't seem to be the case in v50

[calm widget]

oh well, wrote my own method for it lol

[limpid whale]

In V50 they also don't camp the ship door as you saw, they instantly walk away XD

Which makes the ship camping fix in FairGiants redundant

[lime lava]

is driftwood basically finished or does it still need work

(besides throwing range)

[calm widget]

it just needs sounds i think tbh

also added an awareness bar that increases the more time you spend around the monster and decreases slowly when they're just wondering with no one around, the monster wont attack unless the awareness value goes up a certain amount

[lime lava]

also uhh

[calm widget]

ah, ill add a check for that

i forgot they can die now

[lime lava]

wait hol on iforgot no spoilers

[lime lava]

v50 spoilers!

||is there any mod that removes the forest giant dead body until this bug is fixed?||

i still wanna use v50 just dont want the bug to ruin the giants

:P

[calm widget]

what does the bug do to the redgiant?

spam logs with error orrr just softlocks the red giant

[limpid whale]

I never had any bugs on V50

[limpid whale]

||There are no dead bodies after the RedWood eats them on V50, only if you kill them or if they get killed by an Old Bird.||

[lime lava]

it uhh softlocks it

it cant move when it tries to eat it when its long gone

[calm widget]

hmmm

[lime lava]

and its body doesnt dissapear

[calm widget]

ill try getting a bug fix for that out

[lime lava]

so it constantly tries targetting something that cant be eaten

[calm widget]

the problem is that it tries to eat a corpse luni

and apparently it cant do that

[limpid whale]

Yeah I got it now

Ye

You just need to add code probs that makes it ignore them when they're dead

[limpid hatch]

holy moly this is fucking sick

gonna love shitting myself running from this thing

[calm widget]

Update might be a bit delayed, I'm taking time off from working on mods or being here for personal reasons, DM if you absolutely need to reach me

[amber parrot]

Your mod is fantastic, rest!

[subtle forge]

Flying giant update when?

[winged trench]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/647377510925074442/855506278926909450/Webp.net-gifmaker.gif

[calm widget]

Also driftwoods been finished, they just need the last of the animations :p

And sounds @coarse hatch

LOL

[limpid whale]

Don't forget to fix Red boi being heard inside of Interiors lol

[calm widget]

Alright ill fix this "bug"

[limpid whale]

Haha

Did you fix the softlock too?

[limpid whale]

Honestly even though it's not a bug it is funny, cus before they could be right outside and you'd only hear them when outside

[calm widget]

Ye

[limpid whale]

Let's goooo

[calm widget]

Well I didn't test it but probably

I can give you the dll fix if you'd like, it won't have sounds for driftwood and the driftwood will get softlocked after killing a dog or baboon hawk or masked, but it would function normally with the player

[ebon thistle]

have people found it annoying? i thought it was really cool, and helped the interior and exterior feel more connected

[viral tusk]

I kinda like it too, just wish you didn't hear it everywhere

[ebon thistle]

oh you hear it everywhere?

thought it was only at the entrance for some reason

[jolly canopy]

Its everywhere, it would be super cool though if you could hear him from the enterance inside though as an actual feature

[minor nymph]

@calm widget a good way to do this would be to "fake" it by having a collider check if the player is close enough to the entrance's position, or even checking distance to the position of the entrance and then playing the sound on a loop in they're within that distance

lets people have that cool effect and not get annoyed hearing it literally everywhere

cuz I mean...

it's not as if you can see him walking, so there's no reason to link the two if you can't visually see him

[thorn sage]

that's a pretty smart way of making it into a feature lmao

only thing i think might be weird is

if you step in/out of that range, it'll just start/stop too abruptly

so probably need to soften the volume over a distance instead of completely muting the audiosource

[empty bay]

Scale the audio volume inversely to the distance

I should be sleeping, you didn't see me

[thorn sage]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chuni-sleep-gif-20108376

[limpid whale]

Btw @calm widget when you update the mod please fix the issue of the switching sound for the whistle and the dropping sound for it being global

Drives me nuts hearing that key sound across the whole map when someone has one

Lol

[pale flame]

how would i figure out like certain names for different monsters?
like the herobrine, fiend and other mobs
is there a certain place i can find it at?

[calm widget]

y'all are overcomplicating it, im just gonna reduce the distance which the player can hear the giant's footsteps 💀

theres no such thing as allowing the player to hear it while they're in a certain collider afaik

[calm widget]

maybe, i've thought about it

[thorn sage]

pretty sure the distance between the interior's entrance vs the outside entrance is different for different moons isnt it?

[calm widget]

it shouldnt

according to batby atleast

[thorn sage]

not to mention the issue of it still abruptly being on/off if they enter/exit the range

o

well if batby says so then it's true

since he's the moon guy™️

[calm widget]

well

the moon devs currently can set otu where the interior is

by default its 200m

[subtle forge]

Wait, that was actually in your mind? xd

[calm widget]

and batby thinks LLL should be the one handling that rather than the moon dev

[calm widget]

ye ofc

[thorn sage]

tbh easiest way to handle all cases is to just mute the audio if the player isn't outside as well LUL

[thorn sage]

yea makes sense

shouldn't be an implementation detail that matters for like 99.999% of cases so LLL handling it would be nice

[calm widget]

ye

also like, i dont really care if you heard 0.3 seconds of a footstep because you decided to enter the entrance and wanted to hear the last 0.2 seconds of hte sound

[calm widget]

The state of my projects.
Hotbarrd: finished.
Giantspecimens: waiting on animations and sounds.
RatchetnClank: waiting on assets, just started.
ViralCompany: waiting on the last bit of ffmpeg code to actually record clips and merge etc, still needs a TV asset that takes camera etc.
Leshyscompany: hasn't started

Would be funny if I just disappeared wouldn't it

Anyway relevant threads.
#1208964227835109407
#1212428282931322922
#1225176368585638008
#1227244944599683254
#1226517126920274051
Oh and #1195454016021340322, I need to port that when v50 updates.

[gray dock]

That would be hilarious
||please don't||

[calm widget]

I wont, probably, depends on how some dms go later today :p

[amber parrot]

Are you sure you're resting? 😂

I feel like every day I wake up to go to work, I see that you have a new project.

[calm widget]

Well technically I finished my enemy ai for driftwood today

And fixed the camera in viral company

[amber parrot]

No work today.

[calm widget]

And made the github project and set up the stuff for ratchet n clank

[amber parrot]

No more*

[amber parrot]

Omg.

[calm widget]

Lol you're lucky I share a pc with a brother, I'm not able to code even if I wanted to

Otherwise I'd be doing it rn

[gray dock]

Clearly Xu is on break with DonutDay

[amber parrot]

Maybe your way to rest is to do more things. (?

[calm widget]

Oh no not at all

I'm running a fever rn

I'm just a lil addicted to going 120%

Especially since my holiday lasts another 5 days

I'll get everything ready in 5 days

[amber parrot]

Get well soon!

[calm widget]

I like being unreasonable with the schedule so it looks like other people are the burdens (/j but like all current projects are onhold indefinitely until I get more assets)

[minor nymph]

Dum dum that's why you'd code that

[minor nymph]

They don't stop instantly when you leave the range, you'd have to use AudioSource.Stop() to make it do that

[calm widget]

Muting audiosources for the localplayer is a thing?

[minor nymph]

No, you reduce the distance for the audio source that you're currently using for the giant and then you could use the player's audio source to play the giant footsteps sound but muffled more using audio editing, that or create an audio source at the entrance and play it through that

There's a lot of ways to go about it

For example for the flash bang sound effect (the actual boom) I play it from the player that the gnome collides with

Basically turning the player themselves into a flash bang lol

@calm widget

[calm widget]

Hmm

The first method feels like it wouldn't work multiplayer

But maybe I could set up an audio source at main entrance

[minor nymph]

Loop for every player in the game

Would be how id approach it

Cuz it doesn't matter if it's synced

[calm widget]

But wouldn't they hear the sounds from ezchother if the audio sources are played from them?

[minor nymph]

Well the players have multiple audio sources, one of which plays only for them

It's like

Helmet audio or something

Cuz otherwise everyone would hear multiples of the motifs sounds and everything

Notifs*

But personally

I think audio source at the door is much better method

That way no need to worry about distance or anything

[calm widget]

ahhh

[calm widget]

Ye I agree

[minor nymph]

Just set the distance you want for the audio source, create it

Boom

Done

Have it loop the sound on a set duration

[calm widget]

God no, looping based on a timer will never work

Animation events

They're the way to go

[minor nymph]

You can link it like that?

Cuz it doesn't need to be synced since you can see it

[calm widget]

Animation events is just "if you're in this frame, run whatever number of different functions you want"

I can just grab the main entrance audiosource/make one and just play that in the same Animation events as my normal footsteps

[calm widget]

Yeah but what if they die, change states, someone notices and "suggests" it'd be better to change it

Plus loops are annoying to get right in terms of one footstep and another making the sound

Rn the sound itself isn't synced cuz who cares about which stomp sound is played

[minor nymph]

True, personally I wouldn't be so worried, but is your baby cx

If you think you can do it then go for it

[calm widget]

Yee ofc, if I can setup a loop, I'd be easier to setup an animationevent

[minor nymph]

I still need you to show me that when I get to taking on the skulk again

[calm widget]

Yeah it's honestly super easy, it's one of the few things u can code in 2 hours, or setup in Unity in 30 seconds

[lime lava]

ngl i think cactus giant will shoot darts or something

from their back

[pliant vault]

i could see him rolling at people and when rolled over your body will be stuck in the cactus on his back

wonder since the cactus seems pretty big i wonder if the red giant will struggle to eat him

[dim hull]

too sharp to eat

[empty bay]

He just wants a hug

[calm widget]

I'll need an "eat then throw and scream" animation I guess 😂

[dim hull]

Tom and Jerry youch scream

[calm widget]

@hollow garnet @fallow dirge was completely right

i needed a boxcollider on the mainbody

now the old birds target the giants

now to make em take damage and run away on the other hand...

i'd probably just have to add a new state and make the animation from Any to running away or something tbh, maybe ill make em attack the old birds back

[hollow garnet]

nice!

[calm widget]

ugh the missiles themselves dont cause damage, they just make the forest giant open a burning container

and it checks how long its been burning and kills it

[hollow garnet]

that's kinda more cinematic tho

the old birds can fire as many missiles as they want

[calm widget]

so i just gotta let my giants tank through all the hits 😂

[hollow garnet]

yee xP

can you share or send me your code btw so I can work on implementing it to general indoor enemies?

[calm widget]

lol, there is a radmechmissile class, maybe i can do some detection thing for the missile

[calm widget]

sure

        ThreatType IVisibleThreat.type => ThreatType.ForestGiant;
        int IVisibleThreat.SendSpecialBehaviour(int id) {
            return 0; 
        }
        int IVisibleThreat.GetThreatLevel(Vector3 seenByPosition) {
            return 18;
        }
        int IVisibleThreat.GetInterestLevel() {
            return 0;
        }
        Transform IVisibleThreat.GetThreatLookTransform() {
            return eye;
        }
        Transform IVisibleThreat.GetThreatTransform() {
            return base.transform;
        }
        Vector3 IVisibleThreat.GetThreatVelocity() {
            if (base.IsOwner) {
                return agent.velocity;
            }
            return Vector3.zero;
        }
        float IVisibleThreat.GetVisibility() {
            if (isEnemyDead) {
                return 0f;
            }
            if (agent.velocity.sqrMagnitude > 0f) {
                return 1f;
            }
            return 0.75f;
        }

and ofc adding the interface to the enemy itself

[hollow garnet]

as a component, or more code?

[calm widget]

code

[fallow dirge]

oh it looks like you can make any object have some IVisibleThreat component if it has a collider and then return any old transform to target with the missiles perhaps?

with the GetThreatTransform() function

[calm widget]

interesting

[fallow dirge]

so perhaps @hollow garnet should create a component to attach to any colliders on indoor enemies that can return the first parent EnemyAI component

[calm widget]

yeah true it does just look for a collider and u can make it any collider technically

my problem is now making my giants get damaged by missiles

[hollow garnet]

honestly I'm wondering if my beta code was fine and it was purely the collider missing

[calm widget]

it should be

cuz this was my old code as well

all i did was add the collider

[fallow dirge]

how did you set it up?

[fallow dirge]

(audio knight that is)

yeah that seems about like what I was thinking

you would want to attach that to every object of an enemy that has a collider on the Enemy layer

then... I think that should do it?

[calm widget]

hmm i gotta figure out how to make it detect the explosion now and damage it accordingly =_=

[hollow garnet]

Oh the IVisibleThreat methods don't search for the colliders automatically? I thought Xu was saying they didn't have any colliders on the enemy layer and they added one to it

Easy enough tho

[fallow dirge]

there has to be a collider on an object in the Enemy layer alongside the IVisibleThreat component

so depending on whether those enemies have a collider on their base object with the EnemyAI component, it may not have worked

[hollow garnet]

ahh okay

[fallow dirge]

so if EnemyAI.GetComponent<Collider>() == null or EnemyAI.gameObject.layer != 19 it won't work

unless you put the IVisibleThreat on a Collider child of the EnemyAI

[calm widget]

quick question, do you know what tag if any the radmechmissile's are given?

[fallow dirge]

oh idk, I haven't looked at them

and you mean the layer?

[calm widget]

nah, tag this time

[fallow dirge]

oh not sure if they would have a tag

[calm widget]

im trying to see if i can detect a collision through OnTriggerEnter

yeah might just have to compare name instead then

[fallow dirge]

you can probably search for the prefab with UnityExplorer if you switch to the HideAndDontSave scene

[calm widget]

true, ill give that a look in a bit

[hollow garnet]

@fallow dirge would I need to add the component and assign all of the variables within the for loop?

like this more or less?

[fallow dirge]

yeah, that looks about right to me

[hollow garnet]

just to rubber-duck rq, this would check the layer the collider exists on, then if it's the enemy layer, it'll add the component to them and assign all of those variables (the instance ones of which are on the EnemyAI prefabs already so it's just grabbing it from the base)

[fallow dirge]

assuming my theory is correct anyway

[hollow garnet]

mmk, I'll send it to my guinea pig @limpid whale then 🤭

[limpid whale]

Lol

[fallow dirge]

oh one thing I see wrong in the class though

[limpid whale]

Well Xu needs to push the Giant update first though

[fallow dirge]

Vector3 is a struct, not a reference type, so it will be copied into your class and never change

[hollow garnet]

if it works I'll make it a little less general, cuz rn it would be adding it to every enemy even if they had it

[fallow dirge]

(speaking specifically about agentLocalVelocity)

[hollow garnet]

idk, that's how Zeekers coded it lol

[fallow dirge]

wait where

[calm widget]

the only softlock that happens is with my redwood trying to eat a dead giant lol, you should be fine testing whatever star wants to test

i got my stuff working mostly anyway

[hollow garnet]

here's the snippet from the forest giant AI

unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean

[fallow dirge]

ah you are

[calm widget]

agentLocalVelocity isnt a thing afaik

[fallow dirge]

I'm referring to your agentLocalVelocity field, that will be a copy of the velocity at the moment you created the component rather than it changing

[calm widget]

i had to change it to agent.velocity

lol

[fallow dirge]

it's a thing in AudioKnight's class

[calm widget]

ah ic

[fallow dirge]

but because it's a struct Vector3 type, it's copied on read

[hollow garnet]

ohh

well here's the thing right below the snippet I posted above

so I just copied it over :B

[fallow dirge]

I see

[calm widget]

yeah thats directly from zeekers code right?

[fallow dirge]

zeekers did a silly

[hollow garnet]

ye that screenshot is the forest giant AI

[fallow dirge]

that condition will never change

[hollow garnet]

so really visibility is always 0.75? :P

[fallow dirge]

probably yeah

[hollow garnet]

well I'm not gonna risk changing it atm, I'll just keep parity with existing code in this case

[fallow dirge]

I wonder if that ref exists in the code that Zeekers wrote, because that might have been an attempt to make it work but it's not how it works

[hollow garnet]

unless there's a surefire way

[fallow dirge]

the surefire way is to delete the field lol

you're assigning agentLocalVelocity = agent.velocity, but you can just do if (agent.velocity.sqrMagnitude > 0) in GetVisibility()

[hollow garnet]

oh duh

[fallow dirge]

but yeah, if you want to mirror the vanilla behavior perfectly, you could just remove that if statement instead

up to you

[hollow garnet]

I think I'll just do that since there's no apparent risk of breakage.

[hollow garnet]

Since IVisibleThreat is an interface and not actually a component, is there a way check for whether or not it already exists on a creature?

Zeekers has this section in the radmechai where he does IVisibleThreat visibleThreat = default(IVisibleThreat); and then uses it later in ((Component)((Component)RoundManager.Instance.tempColliderResults[i]).transform).TryGetComponent<IVisibleThreat>(ref visibleThreat)
but idk how to go about it

[fallow dirge]

(default(IVisibleThreat) is probably just the decompiler being funny since that's equivalent to null)

I think you can just GetComponentsInChildren<IVisibleThreat>(), but as far as the speed that may end up being quite a bit slower than getting a component class

no idea how Unity implements finding component interfaces

if that doesn't work, you can just check whether there's a Collider present with an IVisibleThreat alongside it

but really I would probably just make a whitelist of enemies to do this to

you don't want to do that to custom enemies if they aren't intended to be targeted

[hollow garnet]

fair actually

Maybe a static string array with the names of indoor, killable enemies since that's all I'm looking to do?

(though for beta testing it'd still be all encompassing just to try and hook Xu's giant into it)

[calm widget]

assuming my giant doesnt already implement what you're trying to do

[hollow garnet]

Well as of current release it doesn't

[calm widget]

thats true

okay it cant detect collisions from missiles

so lets just detect explosions based on how close they are

[hollow garnet]

So it's a good test since it's a custom outdoor enemy that doesn't (currently) have an IVisibleThreat component that Lunx can easily get to spawn on one of the new v50 moons

[calm widget]

mhm

[fallow dirge]

hopefully the detection of missiles isn't too costly? I think it might be good to instead hook into whatever does the explosion effect to deal damage to your enemy, since that way you don't have to poll anything

[calm widget]

maybe, i'd have to learn hooking and that but we do have a good guide on it from @rocky sparrow (im assuming this is patching)

[fallow dirge]

yeah, probably could just be a Harmony postfix I assume

(I haven't looked at the missile code though)

[hollow garnet]

if (threatColliders[i].gameObject.layer == 19 && threatColliders[i].GetComponentsInChildren<IVisibleThreat>() == null)
Would threatColliders[i] just be the actual collider component and that'd be why you'd run GCIC rather than just GC?

[fallow dirge]

the result of GetComponentsInChildren() shouldn't ever be null

also wait what is threatColliders?

[hollow garnet]

I figured it'd be best to grab all the colliders and then iterate through them, no?

(ignore the gameObject on the right side of &&, meant to remove that)

So I think I understand. GetComponentsInChildren() returns an array, hence it won't ever be null, so what about singular GetComponentInChildren()?

and actually maybe I should still use gameObject, if I could then remove the recursive aspect of InChildren and have it just look alongside itself

This is mostly pointless since, as you suggested, a whitelist would be best, but I'd like to know if my logic tracks at all

[hollow garnet]

Test was a negative, but that might be because of the missing collider. I was hoping that it'd somehow work anyways, but I'll just wait til I can test it on indoor enemies myself when the LLL update drops

[fallow dirge]

that can be null, yeah

also, for that logic, I would use TryGetComponent() as Zeekers did, I'm not entirely sure whether GetComponentsInChildren() works with interfaces

[hollow garnet]

come over to the AIFix thread and we'll stop cluttering Xu's thread 🤭

[lime lava]

coding make my brain hurty

[hollow garnet]

sameeee

[calm widget]

Turns out explosions do make a force, I just had to override the hit enemy method, I'm stupid

[restive terrace]

eyy no longer on a break from DnD 😂

[calm widget]

I still am btw

[calm widget]

:C

you'd need about 50 missile direct hits to kill the redwood

he's probably the only 3 digit hp enemy

[winged trench]

goddamn it takes a while to kill the big guy

[silk zodiac]

make his body sellable XD then your weight is like 999 or smth

[pliant vault]

I was worried that he would die somewhat easily, glad he gonna be beefy

[abstract relic]

Make it so we need 4 players to grab it lol

[silk zodiac]

solo players be boned lmao

[dense iris]

Wait

There’s missiles now?

[empty bay]

v50

[dense iris]

Cool

[viral tusk]

Did you ever figure out if there was an issue with setting the weight to 0?

[viral tusk]

I figured it out, the update made a new config, the old one was GiantSpecimens and the new one is TheGiantSpecimens, Probably should put somewhere that you did that, I can't believe I never noticed🤦‍♂️

[calm widget]

i got really tired and had to use my autoclicker

300 hp is a lot of clicks

ignroe the fact that the particles come out of the feet, i'll figure a fix for htat later

I might make a heart for each giant as a scrap droppable once you kill em

[dim roost]

😮

[calm widget]

unity fucked up my scripts again, gotta re-apply everything

[terse wedge]

me when i die

[livid aurora]

Does the redwood interact with the old birds in anyway?

Besides them just shooting the redwood

Can he fight back?

[feral kettle]

from what little ive field tested and observed, they kind of ignore eachother

[calm widget]

ye he'll fight back in the new version im writing rn

[livid aurora]

Awesome

[lime lava]

is he gonna throw hands or smth?

or just stomp

[sudden stratus]

Redwood Giants sometimes spawn inside of the Art Warehouses

Which makes them unable to move

[calm widget]

will fix with the next update

but also if normal forest giants spawn there, would they be able to move? kinda curious if thats just a vanilla L

[sudden stratus]

Not sure

They are the same size as Old Birds so if Old Birds can spawn and enter the warehouses so should normal Giants

[calm widget]

true

my latest change prolly fixed em

[hushed fox]

where did your green color go 😭

[calm widget]

le retirement

now you dont have to be so scared of me

[hushed fox]

never has been🤭

[hushed fox]

i wish i could retire before 75 lol

[calm widget]

unlucky

[calm widget]

same

[restive terrace]

No green Xu 😮

[calm widget]

I was never green

Cuz im colourblind

[gray dock]

Just get some new eyes from the eye store

The newer models should have color integrated

[calm widget]

Oh fax

[restive terrace]

i thought you were colourblind for red shades

[hushed fox]

update the drivers

and restart the system first

maybe it's gonna start working

[restive terrace]

did you try to unplug your eyes and replug them?

[gray dock]

Delete System32

[midnight verge]

nah there's an easier fix. just gotta add the colors back into ur eyes with food coloring like an eye drop of each colors.

[restive terrace]

maybe left out a ; in the code 🤔

[amber parrot]

Can I get the green color myself? It's my favorite color. [?]

[calm widget]

Red green

[calm widget]

Apply for mod

[lilac dragon]

/j

[lilac dragon]

You can get vomit green if you become a gameplay modder

[calm widget]

Lol

[lilac dragon]

Can you read that image

[restive terrace]

pst! it says 69

[calm widget]

Nada

[lilac dragon]

Clueless emoji then

[amber parrot]

I just create sounds. 😩

[pliant vault]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

[calm widget]

Create sounds for me wen

Driftwood is finished, I just need sounds :3c

[dim roost]

👀