[Ported] Giant Specimens

[midnight verge]

what if instead of that, they are territorial creatures so pink giants encountering each other would fight each other. preventing them from eating the forest giants.maybe hazards like boulders and trees are falling from the sky as they’re kicked up by the pink giants fight. okay maybe latter idea is bit much, already dealing with increased forest giant spawns. 😅

i’m curious what the other giants are going to be like

btw i tried this mod in VR

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

literally me

[low girder]

1-10 how big?

[midnight verge]

10

🫳

🫴

like that big

[low girder]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-like-a-dragon-millennium-tower-final-boss-looking-up-ichi-gif-26228891

[ebon thistle]

oh my god... i gotta get my vr friend to do that now

FUCK that's such a funny idea

[lime lava]

is big fella finished?

[ebon thistle]

seems like they're mostly polishing her visuals and doing some balance checks/preventing it from clipping into places like the ship, random rock formations, etc

so basically, yeah, just being lightly polished atm

[safe maple]

No I spawned them in

[left granite]

https://tenor.com/view/big-shoe-lmfao-big-shoe-lmfao-gif-21655557

[calm widget]

I've almost got particles fully implemented

[calm widget]

lmaooo finally someone took a video of it

[left granite]

big man literally walked Inside of the ship from the left wall

i love this guy even if he puts me on edge inside the ship, harmless guardian angel sweetheart if you're paying attention to where he is and give him the appropriate space
looking forward to the not-so-lovable ones

[calm widget]

Lol

[minor nymph]

you should probably disallow it from getting so close to the ship- lol

[calm widget]

Yeah it's just a bit difficult to do

I have to mess with the navmesh agent

It being so big is also half the problem

[minor nymph]

Couldn't you just add a collider that only hits the ship?

[calm widget]

Like technically it's not inside the ship

[calm widget]

Oh the model is filled with colliders that should stop it from doing stuff like going through things

But it seems like the real model is considered to be smaller(?)

It's weird

I don't understand it fully either

[minor nymph]

I need to check how it does movement

[calm widget]

I'll be mostly looking at wormAI's code tbh

Cuz that doesn't get near the ship

It does It's movement just like every other enemy too, with navmesh, searches etc

[mortal moss]

wormai just can't climb ladders to ""get on"" the ship

and the worm also typically isn't above ground, big and visible

[empty bay]

Creatures are still able to pathfind underneath the ship though, and the worm tends to avoid it completely

[mortal moss]

i've never seen an enemy go underneath the ship on vanilla moons

[calm widget]

I think you're missing the point

Works can't get near the ship

Whether it's under, next to, or above

They won't attack you if you're near the ship

Because they can't get near it for reasons like party wipe while everyone's in the ship

[safe maple]

are you sure its not because they can't attack you from any elevated surface that isnt the ground

[calm widget]

Yes

Lol

Their path finding doesn't go near the ship

It's that simple

[safe maple]

how near are we talking

[calm widget]

...like, a decent amount

Idk if you're asking because you doubt me or what 😭

[safe maple]

damn I tested just now

it is like- pixel perfect

I never noticed that before

[calm widget]

I've played this game long enough to see that they don't approach near the ship

Try going on assurance

They back off quite far from the ship

[safe maple]

not sure about that

they can get very close but cant touch you as long as you're 2 metres in range of the ship

[calm widget]

Yeah I never checked the red dot's location, just the shaking sound which is practically good enough

[left granite]

on modded moons i've seen them pass under or "get on" the ship catwalks to get to where they're going
but thats also scuffed modded moons where any outdoor enemies converge on one spot for some reason

[calm widget]

Has anyone seen my enemy in any LLL moon?

[left granite]

i saw one on aquatis i'm 99% sure thats not on LLL yet though
i have also seen them on wesley's moons

unless i'm fooling myself HARD and i spawned those experimenting

[calm widget]

Knew it, lethal libs indeed doesn't work with LLL

I've seen people say it works with modded moons like wesleys

But never LLL moons

Now that makes sense to why someone said it didn't spawn on auralis

[left granite]

yee, i did screenshot it

[calm widget]

@trim flax, Lethallibs registers enemies before LLL loads it's custom moons, @rocky sparrow is working on it I think

[limpid whale]

It's always LethalLib 😂

[left granite]

he was an initial spawn too

saw him as the ship flew in

[calm widget]

Yeah that mightve been back when there was one spawning on map start

But aquatis isn't imported afaik

[trim flax]

I hate monomod so much

[livid aurora]

Is the redwood giant supposed to just face the wall next to the titan stairs?

He stood there for the whole game

Maybe he was trying to reach the giants on the stairs but got stuck

Is there a measure in place that'll tell him to find a new target if he can't get to the giant he's targeting?

[valid oar]

let my bro have his vacaition

[zenith knoll]

Holy shit I’d love to have a redwood giant on that moon

[ember mauve]

Does this also apply to scopophobia or any other outside monster mod? Where they don't spawn on LLL moons?

[zenith knoll]

Wait what? Thats a problem?

[ember mauve]

Yeah right here

[zenith knoll]

Damn

So any monsters that use LethalLib don’t work with LLL moons

[ember mauve]

I'm not sure, but it seems like it

That's why I was asking

[rocky sparrow]

@ember mauve @zenith knoll LethalLib enemies don't get added to the list of naturally spawning enemies for LLL moons, but this is not a problem if the enemy has custom spawning logic, which I've heard someone say scopophobia has custom logic for that, which is why that enemy still spawns (I haven't confirmed this).

Anyways, the way to fix this issue is really easy, like one solution would be to just make LethalLib add enemies to moons after LLL has added the moons, and then everything works as expected. Someone could for example make a mod for this as a fix for now, while we are waiting for a "proper" solution.

[calm widget]

Weird, he should be able to climb the stairs just fine tbh, but I havent considered situations where if there's a forest giant and he can't reach em, I'll have to look into it

[limpid whale]

Yeah when I learned they could climb the stairs on Titan I was like "Holy shit big boy comin'" XD

Btw idk if you've considered it

But I 100% feel like they should be able to stomp an eyeless dog dead if they stomp near them lol

[calm widget]

I've considered it, it's just too op

I might make them damage the dog until its like half HP at the most

[calm widget]

We've passed 5k unique downloads 🎉
Shameless plug time! Check out my other cool mod :p https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1212428282931322922

Also I've made some cool blood particles, I'm working on footsteps next and when I'm finished with that cuz I've almost got it fully figured out, I can release a big particles + collision fix + potentially AI improvements update

[midnight verge]

Chef Xu is cooking 🔥

can’t wait to be served my meal

this dish gonna be looking extra garnished

[pliant vault]

"Big boi update"

[calm widget]

Any features that aren't a part of the pinned message feel free to suggest and ill try getting onto it

[zenith knoll]

Or the enemy can just have the “all” string for spawning on all moons

[midnight verge]

LethalLib just got updated, but no clue if changes related to what ur talking about. Nothing was mentioned about the new update in the changelog on TS.

[limpid whale]

It does

I think Thunderstore is just being slow

Github shows it

[midnight verge]

very nice

[ember mauve]

Oh ok nice

[ember mauve]

Thanks

[lilac dragon]

My friends told me they saw 096 on solace (starlancer moons LLL) so

It probably does have custom spawning

[scenic prism]

Must've been terrifying to see them get murdered after

[limpid whale]

Yeah Scopophobia and Peepers would work on LLL moons somehow, but other enemy mods using LethalLib would not

So I think they do something different

[lilac dragon]

They are crazy with it 🥶

[scenic prism]

Wasn't one of them gonna share a how-to for the custom spawn system at some point?

[calm widget]

Peepers doesn't use lethal lib afaik lol

Dunno how scopophobia does it tho

[midnight verge]

sorcery

[calm widget]

Doesn't really matter, next update is gonna have ground particles, eating particles, the newer lethal lib (hopefully), better animation sync, brighter colours

Stuff like better movement etc maybe, I'm still unsure of how to play around with unitys navmesh agent

Over thr weekend I'll probably learn, either that or I'll be taking a break to play games with my friend

Oh and the update would have more config options for different moons since they'll be available

[midnight verge]

breaks are good. it can be easy to engross urself in a project and burn urself out.

[calm widget]

Oh I don't really burn out of projects

I just act like I do

Complain for a good few hours

And just get back to it

[rocky sparrow]

even then it doesn't get added to LLL moons because the moons haven't been added yet when the enemy is registered to even all moons

[zenith knoll]

So we just have to “add” the moons

Or well load them

[rocky sparrow]

yeah this was a backend fix I made so modders can now specify different spawn weights for different moons (it did not work before).

However, this is still separate from the LLL issue, but it is how I noticed it

[rocky sparrow]

yeah, so the moons need to exist before LethalLib just registers enemies. I would guess this will be fixed in the next few days, but I own neighter project so I can't just decide to fix it without any communication with other people, which is why I didn't fix it also now

[zenith knoll]

Okay so it’ll technically be “fixed” if you just make the moons exist, nice

I can have The Fiend anywhere

https://tenor.com/view/excited-fuego-gif-26833875

[rocky sparrow]

but yeah, so IAmBatby (LLL dev) knows about the issue and so does Eba (LethalLib dev, but doesn't really work on it anymore, so other people will take the place of maintaining it) now I think, so things are gonna be fixed I hope :3

[zenith knoll]

Imma have to find out if there is a config option in some mod to make certain enemies spawn outside

I saw it once and I won’t give up finding it

Right here

Oh wait its LLL im dumb

Wait is that spawn pool just in general or just LLL moons?

The Fiend being outside would be really funny to have

also really scary on forest moons

[ember mauve]

The fiend spawns outside?

[calm widget]

it all pretty much work

particles are looking great

the method i made to copy the colour of the ground is also working well

the update will be sometime tommorow

itll have much bigger configs, better collisions, clean looking particles, and removes any animation desyncs

oh and, it wont go to the player ship, and its available paths are only the paths the forest giant can go to

i would post the update now, but i dont have foot particles textures made yet and im busy rn

FOR TOMMOROW

also cant do LLL moons, thats up to batby or lethallibs to fix

Other than Wesley's moons, anyway know any other non-LLL based moons?

[midnight verge]

ether

sfdesat's aquatis is still using LECore

bikini bottom

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/jockie/LethalExpansionCore/dependants/?q=&ordering=most-downloaded&section=mods&included_categories=690

sorted by moon and whatever depends on LECore

[sudden lichen]

I mean, can't you also just add the enemies manually inside the LLL config for the moon?

[midnight verge]

honestly not many popular LECore moons besides wesley's

[sudden lichen]

Yeah

[midnight verge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/HolographicWings/LethalExpansion/dependants/?q=&ordering=most-downloaded&section=mods&included_categories=690

this one looking through moons that depend on the og lethal expansion

[rocky sparrow]

I haven't used LLL's configs so I don't know

[sudden lichen]

yeah

i personally like it, cuz then you can customise the weight for each moon for each enemy
Which is proly tedious for some but i like being able to balance it like that

you could also just copy and paste if you dont care and want it the same

[rocky sparrow]

huh? I wonder how this works if the enemy also has it's own config?

[calm widget]

prolly overrides it lol

[rocky sparrow]

but does the enemy get automatically added to that list?

[calm widget]

no idea

how the config looks like

eating giant particles

not what i was aiming for tbh, but i like it, thank you @minor nymph for the texutres

[rocky sparrow]

Oh, yeah that actually actually makes sense, I thought they were going to be all different fields

[calm widget]

baka

[rocky sparrow]

:3

[calm widget]

actually update is probably today

I probably missed some stuff but uh

ill just do it today

v 1.5.0 PARTICLES UPDATE!

• Made the teeth glow a tiny bit of a dark red.
• Updated the NavMesh Agent to make it behave like the Forest Keepers obstacle path.
• Updated the NavMesh Agent so it cant go near the player ship/inside, not sure which tbh.
• Added a bunch of configs for different vanilla moons support + universal modded support (I'll do modded moons when LLL gets supported by batby or Lethallib).
• Added Forest Keeper's death particles, Squishy blood particles from the player, Footstep dust particles with different colours for whatever material the RedWood Giant is stepping on.
• Removed animation desyncs when the Forest Keeper and the RedWood Giant spawned on top of eachother (??? yes I know).
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/XuXiaolan/TheGiantSpecimens/

[PARTICLES] TheGiantSpecimens

this is a pretty big update

don't forget to like the mod too

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/XuXiaolan/TheGiantSpecimens/

[chilly field]

ay

particles

[chilly field]

i will in like a year or two

if i remember to

[calm widget]

like it or i tell you off

[chilly field]

do it

[calm widget]

no T-T

whoops i missed a bug

nothing harmful

[midnight verge]

ive been refreshing the online mod list. TS always takes a minute to show the updates. 😔

usually seems to take an hour for me

[calm widget]

takes an hour for everyone

but you'll have to wait for another hour

lol

i just put an actual update

[midnight verge]

😭

[calm widget]

not actual, bug fix

[midnight verge]

got 1.5.0

[calm widget]

That works u can play with ut

U might get error logs about the left dust footstep

Just means I forgot to attach dust to the left foot

[midnight verge]

yeah i saw

[calm widget]

You're specifically looking for 1.5.2 that has the fix

1.5.1 is just a literal version update

Forgot to include the new dll with the fix

[safe maple]

I like how much care and polish there is for just this first guy. Looking forward to following the development as more come out!

[midnight verge]

ok the pink giant dont slide anymore

[calm widget]

I've seen it still slide a couple of times but the chances are much lower

[safe maple]

not sure how I feel about the stomp particles tbh. they feel more like evaporating steam from the way they slowly rise than dust being kicked up into the air, if that's what you were going for

the texture looks good

[calm widget]

I can mess with it a bit

They were a tiny bit rushed but yeah easily changeable

[safe maple]

that's just my opinion

wow the leaf particles interacting with the groud looks great

they are very bright though

[calm widget]

True probably should turn that down

[safe maple]

I think so. It seems to be doing a good job of staying away from the ship except when it teleports in when eating a forest giant

[calm widget]

Teleports?

[safe maple]

slides, teleports whatever. it moves when it catches one

[calm widget]

Ah I see

Hmm I'll try to think of a solution for that

[midnight verge]

yeah i agree its too bright. it doesnt seem to reflect the environment's lighting conditions.

[calm widget]

Will turn down or figure out a way for it to follow the environments lighting conditins

[midnight verge]

not just lighting, but it also seems to disregard the volumetric fog

also in the clip i show, im pretty sure the pink giant is only standing on the ship because it slid there from picking up that forest giant

not coz it walked on there

[midnight verge]

same thing with the stomp particles

this is on rend

like it looks like its rendering on top of the fog or something

[dim roost]

just needs a crunch and some polish in existing areas. Big Red is easily one of my fave entities rn. it's nice having a semi-docile kaiju lumbering around outside

[midnight verge]

yeah a crunch at the end would be nice too..

interesting idea with the eating particles tho.. it falls down as tree chunks and turns red like blood

[dim roost]

autumn arrives early for those dead critters

[zenith knoll]

I want to make it

It naturally doesn’t

[dim roost]

that'd be fucked||, i approve||

[midnight verge]

ive seen someone post a video of a fiend chasing them outside

unless they can exit the dungeon? idk since ive never used the mod.

[calm widget]

I must've missed the option for the particles to be properly rendered

[silk zodiac]

ngl this mod has gotten more updates in such a short ammount of time then any other mod ive seen

[mortal moss]

why make the teeth glow? that sounds a bit silly

[heady zenith]

Idk prolly cause it makes it look cool or something or visible at night. Sounds like you should look at it first b4 saying it’s silly

[ebon thistle]

thats how the goat works 🙏

[low girder]

https://tenor.com/view/am-ia-joke-to-you-meme-original-video-am-ia-joke-joke-to-you-gif-27389464

[silk zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-shush-shh-ok-bird-gif-17679708

[calm widget]

LOL

[calm widget]

Why not? If they don't look good I can just as easily retract it

[mortal moss]

gwagwa

i suppose

[ebon thistle]

it seems like overdoing it personally, but it might look pretty sick :]

[limpid whale]

Idk how you can stand the Don't Blink mod, it's a good mod but it constantly spams errors lol

I removed it due to the error spam

I'll readd it if it gets fixed

[midnight verge]

i’ve never gotten errors relating to dont blink

[limpid whale]

I got error spam from it when I tried it

[midnight verge]

when’s the last time u tried it?

[limpid whale]

Very recently

I had it setup to only be for the coil head

Cus I don't care about the blink mechanic other than that

And no

it hasn't been updated since.

[midnight verge]

well it prob conflicted with some other mod maybe

[limpid whale]

I doubt it, I think the mod is just kind of buggy

[midnight verge]

test it by itself

[limpid whale]

you have it set to blink normally without it being just the coil head

[midnight verge]

i’ve never encountered any bugs with it

been using it for over a month

[limpid whale]

Like I said

You have it configured differently

So it could be a bug when having it be exclusive to coils

[midnight verge]

i think what, it only reacts to the girl besides the coilhead?

[limpid whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1200901735129022575/1216966476523634698/image.png?ex=66024f5a&is=65efda5a&hm=7e38a899d930f41f25ee8813e20902543dd8d4816306821cf237256ab03281e9&

Was what it spammed

As I said, you configure it differently so you may not get it

That or you have error logs disabled

[midnight verge]

yeah i had messed with the configs but only with the blinking timing, but ended up preferring the default. so it’s pretty much vanilla configs for me. i’ve never messed with the girl.

[limpid whale]

I didn't mess with the girl?

Lol

It's not like I can tell the dev of the mod it's brokey, they're not in the Discord

😆

[midnight verge]

i thought u said u made it exclusive to the coilhead?

[limpid whale]

I did, that wouldn't effect the ghost girl

I have Diversity and Ghostcodes for Ghost Girl Enhancements

[midnight verge]

i recall it increasing insanity when encountering the girl

[limpid whale]

Ah maybe idk

[midnight verge]

and there’s a config to turn that off for don’t blink

that’s what i thought u meant

[limpid whale]

Nah there's a toggle in Don't Blink that has you only Blink while staring at a coil and it disables it happening during regular play

[midnight verge]

ah that’s what u meant. okay.

sorry i misunderstood

[young crystal]

That was my reaction too LOL

[calm widget]

you guys just arent working hard neough

[limpid whale]

Lies

Chaos works his ass off 😂

It's why he always needs that medic bag 😏

[calm widget]

could be working harder

[ebon thistle]

enough*

[limpid whale]

@young crystal do you believe the shit Xu is giving you? Apparently you don't work hard enough even though I know that's not true lol

[ebon thistle]

[calm widget]

um you dont need to take a joke so seriously...

[limpid whale]

I'm messing

😂

[midnight verge]

but he’s not pushing updates every day. he isn’t working if no update.

[limpid whale]

It's hard to portray joking in text though

I figured you would automatically hear my sarcasm by default though? You've played with me enough times and watched my streams enough Xu

😂

[calm widget]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-ugh-seriously-kimi-no-nawa-anime-gif-17778269

[limpid whale]

I'm sorry Xu

https://tenor.com/view/kanna-kamui-pat-head-pat-gif-12018819

[young crystal]

Lol it's ok

[gusty talon]

LC_Office:

https://tenor.com/view/transitions-kinemaster-black-guy-suit-tiktok-gif-25279479

[spiral oasis]

Is this enemy inside or outside

[calm widget]

considering its 70 feet tall, probably inside

[wheat folio]

Will you consider putting the redwood giant inside?

We need more inside creatures

[calm widget]

no

[wheat folio]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gif-17172302651595453543

[calm widget]

particle colours dont work right now, working on a fix, should be out soon

unfortunately due to the way things work, i have to do it manually 💀

if you want me to add a non-LLL moon to the list of dust particles that isnt from wesley's moons, just tell me

[late sand]

Good Luck mate

[calm widget]

I've already done most of the work, rn its just the annoying typing all the names

and thinking of a good colour to assign it

[calm widget]

v 1.5.3 bug fixes

• Fixed particle colours not working for any moon other than experimentation.
• Added Wesley's moons to configs (feel free to suggest next moons to add, has to be LE moons).
• Give feedback on the colours you see from the particles pls and ty.
• I'm running out of ideas and features for this monster, hop on the discord and suggest me some! also like the mod tanks.
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/XuXiaolan/TheGiantSpecimens/

update live in 40 mins or whenever thunderstore decides so

[hollow night]

saw the running out of ideas part

do you mean like specifically for the redwood giant?

or for what the other variants can do?

[calm widget]

redwood giant

[limpid whale]

Sheeeesh

Don't ask me why I'm still awake btw I suddenly felt more awake and now I'm feeling all sleepy so I'm probably finally gonna sleep after I update the mod pack code lol

[spiral oasis]

What’s asyncloggers

Do you mind sharing your mod pack with me? I’m looking for some quality of life mods! Thanks!

[spiral oasis]

It’s okay if you don’t want to tho

[midnight verge]

oh are the particles fixed now? properly lit and affected by fog?

[safe maple]

nah

[calm widget]

Footstep ones are fixed

Unsure about eating particles

[safe maple]

Really? They looked bright when I looked at them earlier

Footsteps

[calm widget]

Footstep particles didn't have a colour before

EXCEPT on experimentation, which made me think it worked

Now every moon has its own particles colour

I'm colourblind tho so tell me if a colour is off

[safe maple]

ah ok yes that was different from before

In march they were green

I think they weren't being affected by the lighting but I'll check again

[calm widget]

Ugh I'm not sure how to get them affected by the environment

I thought it'd be a renderer option but even with allowing all renderers nothing changed

List of colours and what moon they're assigned to

Ignore second tag for the maps, only the first tag matters

Colour was chatgpt'd for the first image cuz idfk

[spice flax]

i respect that lol

[calm widget]

I think it was surprisingly pretty accurate lol

[spice flax]

btw i dont know how your system works and Idk if you are changing the LevelTags list, but that could lead to incompatibility problems. No idea if there is a better system you can use, but I use the first compatible tag in the list. This is the source code for celestial tint https://github.com/sfDesat/Celestial-Tint/blob/main/Sourcecode/NightSkyManager.cs. Line 74 is where I search for levelTags.

Maybe, until there is a more widespread adoption of Leveltags, you can copy the current LevelTags list for each moon and put one of your leveltags at the end. And then loop through the tags to find the first compatible.

[calm widget]

I could try that ye, does this support modded moons too?

Also I aint changing it, I'm just making my own because I'd need LLL to access level tags iirc

[spice flax]

oh thats fair lol

[spice flax]

I use LLL so i dont know if it is the same

[calm widget]

Ah yeah you use LLL's level tags too

It's such a minor thing cuz it's only footstep particles that this whole system provides that I told batby until he has something worthy of converting I'm prolly not converting lol

[spice flax]

oh lol. Do you set your tags where LLL would put LevelTags?

or is this completely seperate from what LLL does

[calm widget]

Don't think so, I'm pretty sure LLL makes the tags probably a similar way to how I do it except the tags are provided from the moon descriptions/the creators in some way

[spice flax]

its probably not an issue. I say only fix it if it starts breaking things

[calm widget]

Yep it'll never be an issue programming/error wise

But maybe if someone notices that particles are green on infernis

Then that would be a problem

[spice flax]

thats a problem for the future

[calm widget]

Fr

[young crystal]

That looks... Overcomplicated...

[calm widget]

there's no other real solution lol

[young crystal]

You could use the solution that they use for player footstep sound

Ray cast under the foot whatever it hits get the material index.

[calm widget]

doesnt work

[young crystal]

Wdym?

[calm widget]

lemme find the code i had originally

it worked for experimentation, but zeekers changed up how he did terrain after experimentation im assuming

[young crystal]

Yeah go ahead show me

[calm widget]

i tried a bunch of different ways, the terrain instead of renderer, i tried to get the base material, and a few other things

it was all just set to white

i have no idea where the damn colour is stored

although im having a bit of a different problem right now, my particles stand out a bit ingame, almost like the environment's lights and ingame shaders doesnt affect htem, unsure how i would fix that

[young crystal]

You didn't use layermask for your raycast

Make sure your raycast ONLY hit terain and nothing else

[calm widget]

I could try but it worked for experimentation and no other moons :p

[young crystal]

LayerMask.GetMask("Terrain");

Not sure if the layer is actually called terrain

But yeah that's how you'd get the mask

[calm widget]

Number 25

assuming terrain is hte one with colour lol

[young crystal]

Okay yeah just "Terrain" works

[calm widget]

do you know a solution for this one tho?

more urgent problem for particles imo

[young crystal]

Render queue or simply make your own shader with shader graph to fix it

[dapper pivot]

I read here that LLL and lethallib has some issues when it comes to spawning monsters on custom moons. What version of lethallib is causing this issue as to not use that version until a fix comes out? in version 0.14.2, will your giant still spawn on custom moons?

[spice flax]

I know that the Transparent Workflow doesn't "interact" with the post processing that zeekers applies. Maybe try switching to Opaque with Alpha Clipping if that is your issue

[calm widget]

unfortunately theres never been a fix for the problem of my enemy spawning on LLL moons, it'll be fixed soon hopefully

pester @trim flax about it thanks

[dapper pivot]

So its just a general lethallib issue no matter the version?

Well then

Its ok then

[calm widget]

its not an LL issue, pretty sure its an LLL issue

but yeah

[dapper pivot]

I only have one custom map and that is Orion

No big deal

Do interior monsters spawn just fine though on custom interiors?

[calm widget]

Orion would be great with this guy, hopefully a fix comes soon

[calm widget]

if they're made with lethal lib, also no, but most custom enemies would be doing spawning their own way so probably yes for other enemies

[dapper pivot]

Imagine, a silhouette of that monstracity in the distant

[spice flax]

Idk how you set it up, but if you want the post-processing from Zeekers to apply to your material set this to Opaque

[calm widget]

ugh problem is the material cant be HDRP/lit for my particles

atleast HDRP/lit hasnt worked for me before

[dapper pivot]

Interesting, well the I just checked my monster mods and it seems for the most part good, they will spawn on most maps

Thats good though

[calm widget]

Ill try again but idk enough about materials tbh, not sure which Map i should be putting the texture into

[spice flax]

why not? it worked for me on my particle system

[calm widget]

what did you do for this here?

[spice flax]

i do use Emmision, so maybe that hides any problems

[calm widget]

I'm very confused, do you not have any textures applied?

[spice flax]

No i use it for meteors, which are far away enough to not really need textures and they are supposed to be burning

[calm widget]

ah hmm

yeah my problem rn is HDRP/lit with textures just refuses to work

[midnight verge]

ah i see. definitely will give more feedback on the color. 👍

[lime lava]

uh

[desert totem]

IMO I find the particle colors here to be a bit too.. light? Maybe some darker particles mixed in with the lighter ones would improve it - but just making them darker overall should work

[midnight verge]

yeah xu is trying to figure it out

to have it match environmental lighting and have fog on top of it

coz it will show very clearly through fog

[desert totem]

Ahhhh I see

[ebon thistle]

honestly i feel like you don't need to add more features to the redwood giant :P

it's good as is honestly, you did a p good job with it

[calm widget]

Yeah I just need to fix some stuff with particles, I'm making them look much better right now

[ebon thistle]

siiick

[safe maple]

was the normal map ever applied?

[calm widget]

Wdym?

[safe maple]

is the giant using a normal map atm

if not I think it would look more detailed with one

[calm widget]

Idk what that is tbh

[midnight verge]

its like a thing that uses flat images to create textured detail on surfaces

[calm widget]

Hmm

[empty bay]

Basically an extra texture file that gives depth by giving the illusion of light bouncing off it

[calm widget]

I saw an option to turn the base map texture into a normal map and it changes how it looks, is that good enough lol

[midnight verge]

thats what they use without modeling the surfaces to have extra polygons on it.
so like a brick wall can just be completely flat and then u can use a normal map to give the illusion of brick crevices.

[empty bay]

Without a program like substance painter you'd probably need to make a much higher poly version of the model and then bake it into the low poly version to get a normal map, which is a lot of work

Unless there's ways to go about it differently in Unity that I don't know about

[calm widget]

Damn

[empty bay]

Probably not worth the effort lmao, especially for Lethal Company of all games

I don't think any vanilla enemies use normal maps

[calm widget]

Ah that makes sense lol

[calm widget]

i think the particles are still skipping the filter

[midnight verge]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

(me disintegrating into particles and skipping the filter)

[calm widget]

Old post i know, but how would I set the target to be something specific like a player?

[young crystal]

ChainIKConstraint.data.target = 'some transform'

[calm widget]

I'd access it through code, gotcha

and would I do this if like the player is in range or smthn?

im imagining checking the player's distance from the giant, and if its close enough and theres line of sight, then just step on em

[young crystal]

That or change the weight of the IK depending on the distance

[calm widget]

alright, also where is the Chain IK option found lol

[young crystal]

Import Unity.Animation.Rigging.dll if I'm correct

[calm widget]

do you mean like Using Unity.Animation.Rigging?

[young crystal]

You need the reference of that dll

[calm widget]

huh you're right lol

where does it pop up in unity's editor after that?

[young crystal]

Then using UnityEngine.Animations.Rigging;

Then you should be able to use the components in the script

[young crystal]

Editor?

[calm widget]

the unity project* where you edit the prefab and stuff

basically this

like did you apply this component to the root bone?

or just the prefab itself

[young crystal]

It doesn't matter really if you set up the root and tip transforms

Though since you're doing legs it would be more adequate to have one for each legs

[calm widget]

true

how does someone download dlls like this lol

[young crystal]

It's in the LC game data folder

Where you normally imported all your dlls from

[calm widget]

ah ic

so its not included in Assembly Csharp?

or the coreModules

for unityengine

[young crystal]

Nope but it's part of the unityengine namespace

Just referencing the dlls is enough. No need to do anything else

[calm widget]

im assuming you mean this btw

[young crystal]

Nope

[low girder]

^

[calm widget]

oh

[young crystal]

This

[low girder]

^mhmm

[calm widget]

oh Unity not UnityEngine

okay found it

pixel when did you ever rig something

[young crystal]

Yeah dll is named unity but the namespace will remain unityengine

[low girder]

smh, new modders these days

[calm widget]

uhuh

[young crystal]

Oh also pixel

How is it going with you?

Been a bit since then

[calm widget]

?

oh wait i think i put it in the wrong place

whoops

okay this should be fine

ignore the hintpath

ill fix that

[young crystal]

You do it through MSbuild..?

[calm widget]

ignore that screenshot

lol

[young crystal]

Oh okay okay

I simply just right click on references and select the dll

That's how I do it lol

[calm widget]

Eh im just ofllowing the example enemy format mostly

[young crystal]

I mean if it works it works

[dim roost]

so... what's the max value for spawnrate? totally doesnt wanna guarantee a red guy on Etern

[calm widget]

probably 9999?

                    foreach (PlayerControllerB player in StartOfRound.Instance.allPlayerScripts.Where(x => x.IsSpawned && x.isPlayerControlled && !x.isPlayerDead))
                    {
                        if (HasLineOfSightToPosition(player.transform.position) &&
                            (Vector3.Distance(player.transform.position, CollisionFootL.transform.position) <= 30f ||
                            Vector3.Distance(player.transform.position, CollisionFootR.transform.position) <= 30f))
                        {
                            ChainIKConstraint chainIKConstraintLeft = GetComponentInChildren<ChainIKConstraint>(LeftFoot);
                            if (chainIKConstraintLeft != null) {
                                chainIKConstraintLeft.data.target = player.transform;
                            }
                            ChainIKConstraint chainIKConstraintRight = GetComponentInChildren<ChainIKConstraint>(RightFoot);
                            if (chainIKConstraintRight != null) {
                                chainIKConstraintRight.data.target = player.transform;
                            }
                        }
                    }
``` @young crystal what do you think?

oh wait i dont need to get Component, LeftFoot and RightFoot are already the Chain lol

Honestly cant tell if its working or not

[calm widget]

alright changed it up again

                    var closestPlayer = StartOfRound.Instance.allPlayerScripts
                        .Where(x => x.IsSpawned && x.isPlayerControlled && !x.isPlayerDead)
                        .Select(player => new {
                            Player = player,
                            Distance = Vector3.Distance(player.transform.position, transform.position)
                        })
                        .OrderBy(x => x.Distance)
                        .FirstOrDefault(x => HasLineOfSightToPosition(x.Player.transform.position));
                    if (closestPlayer != null) {
                        ChainIKConstraint closestFoot = GetClosestCollisionFoot(transform.position);
                        if (closestFoot != null && closestFoot.data.target == null) {
                            closestFoot.data.target = closestPlayer.Player.transform;
                        }
                    }
                    else {
                        ChainIKConstraint closestFoot = GetClosestCollisionFoot(transform.position);
                        if (closestFoot != null) {
                            closestFoot.data.target = null;
                        }
                    }

        public ChainIKConstraint GetClosestCollisionFoot(Vector3 position) {
            if (Vector3.Distance(position, transform.position) <= 30) {
                if (Vector3.Distance(CollisionFootL.transform.position, position) < Vector3.Distance(CollisionFootR.transform.position, position)) {
                    return LeftFoot;
                }
                return RightFoot;
            }
            return null;
        }

@young crystal do you think I could use Chain IK to avoid dogs and baboon hawks?

[calm widget]

v 1.6.0 CHAIN IK UPDATE!

• Honestly I dont know what it means really nor if it actually works, but now the giant kinda prefers stepping on you if you're close by.

• Footstep particles are MUCH cleaner, same with Particles after eating the forest giant.

• Slightly increased RedWood Giant speed of a default 1.5 to 2.0, it is also now a config option

• Made it so that the RedWood Giant doesn't go too close to the ship and doesn't target forest keepers close to the ship, also a config option.

• Other changes I forgot about because I'm silly but trust me there's a few more lol.

• I'm running out of ideas and features for this monster, hop on the discord and suggest me some! also like the mod thanks.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/XuXiaolan/TheGiantSpecimens/

[limpid whale]

I mean if you're running out of ideas don't you still have other ones to make? :3

[calm widget]

yeah but thats work

i gotta make the model

[limpid whale]

Lol

[calm widget]

• it's very likely that when i do start working on the driftwood giant

i wont be touching the redwood giant

unless its for config options

[limpid whale]

My friends love the Redwood giant btw, you should have seen Despa last night going "How's it feel?" When one grabbed a Forest Keeper 😂

[calm widget]

lol

maybe i should've updated earlier

the footstep dust is like 100x better rn

[limpid whale]

Haha

[calm widget]

oooh theres a bit of a horrible bug

whoops

[limpid whale]

Hotfix inc?

[calm widget]

yeah i just had to change a variable name

lol

ill reupload

oh i forgot to make blood splatter particles

bleh

[limpid whale]

😂

You can do eeeetttt

[calm widget]

yeah i just gotta update first lol

I dont think i've uploaded an update in the lkast big versions where I haven't had to make atleast one hot fix a minute later

[BETTER PARTICLES] TheGiantSpecimens

[limpid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/kanna-kamui-pat-head-pat-gif-12018819

[rocky sparrow]

This is why I never update my mods 😎 /s

[calm widget]

dw, i just found another collision bug

:p

kill me

[rocky sparrow]

💀

[limpid whale]

Hey at least that fix will come with the blood particles

:3

You got this I believe

💜

[calm widget]

yeah its up on thunderstore whewnever thunderstore decides

imma go sleep with @rocky sparrow now

[limpid whale]

👀

[calm widget]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-gif-5295116536817772197

[rocky sparrow]

wah

owo

[limpid whale]

Xu's into catgirls ig no wonder Xu likes playing with me on stream 😅

[calm widget]

theres a bit of a difference but maybe generalised i just really like cats and sub categories are included

[limpid whale]

😛

Nyan

^w^

[forest mulch]

why is it every goddamn time i click on this thread its 50/50 between actual discussion or this stuff

[limpid whale]

LMFAO

Idk

😆

Hope you've been well though Bongo

[calm widget]

99% of the time its related and important, I try to compliment hamunii every chance possible tho

For reasons

[limpid whale]

👀

[forest mulch]

i mean like my ear is no longer giving me pain. absolutely no motivation though (mostly school and dumping all the drafts in the single week i was away 😭 )

[limpid whale]

Oof

[safe maple]

the particles look better for the most part but my god do they stand out

is it possible to turn down the saturation and/or the brightness of the colors to compensate for not taking in any shading info

[young crystal]

Yes you can

[dim roost]

... there a way for Big Red to continue to ignore you with this Chain IK thingie?

askin for a friend..

[wet flare]

Does this mod spawn more normal giants when there is a redwood one, or would it be same amount of normal giants

[dim roost]

once redwood is spawned, more regular tend to spawn. what good is a monster eraser if there are no monsters to erase?

[wet flare]

Because If there’s so many normal giants it doesn’t matter that there is a redwood one, I’m gonna get obliterate by all the normal giants that the redwood hasn’t gotten to yet

[gray dock]

I always lead them to a redwood giant, really fun way to counter them imo

[calm widget]

Yes but it's a config option

[calm widget]

How would you avoid, it's not like I can have a negative weight can I?

[calm widget]

if you're talking about footstep dust then they're kinda meant to stand out but for forest keeper's particles, they're dark and the saturation isnt high, im not too sure what more to do tbh but ig ill keep messing with the values

also which is better?

[safe maple]

I meant just the footstep dust. I didn't test the forest keeper particles if they were changed

[calm widget]

ill record a video and see what people think

[safe maple]

Its just to me they looks really out of place because of how saturated they are

[young crystal]

simply create an empty transform and offset it's position from the enemyies to avoid. THen use that as a target,

[calm widget]

ooh interesting, yeah that sounds easy enough

[calm widget]

what do you think btw?

[shell glade]

Personally hate how normal maps look in lethal company but y'kno

it is what it is

[calm widget]

yeah i unapplied them to take a picture of the old one and reapplying and honestly unable to get the same result as the first screenshot 😂

[safe maple]

its difficult to see the details from that angle and you won't be seeing the whole thing like that in game

[wet flare]

Oh so it can be the same amount of giants as usual

[calm widget]

ye

[wet flare]

Cool I’ll give it a try then

[shell glade]

Normal Maps + That Rancid Filter LC applies are just not the cleanest combo
Just makes everything look like baked vomit but I am also a hater even if I did make the textures loolll

[wet flare]

I like the right one more

[valid oar]

@calm widget congrats! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7zKaRixhM&ab_channel=TheViperian

[calm widget]

oh damn noice

its a bit unfortunate, looks like it was recorded like a week ago lol

so misses out on a lot of changes

plus uh didnt really showcase the giant at what it can do at all 😭

no im not promoting it, you are

[valid oar]

ay advertisement is advertisement

[calm widget]

aint no way

my comment got removed

💀

[shell glade]

We really out here thinking this isn't just a content farm channel oops

[calm widget]

it kinda is, but idk what content they'd get from a 30 second review

[calm widget]

also after trying it ingame, kinda sucks 😭, we're just sticking to the current one

LC doesnt do too well with details

[safe maple]

I shall take your word for it

[calm widget]

also does the model always look as dark ingame as seen in the video or was that fixed?

i could try making things "brighter"

i think they look slightly better ingame, but without the sun they're still kinda dark

[chilly field]

how about 2's color but 1's texture

[calm widget]

im not even joking when I say that I couldn't replicate 1's texture after that screenshot 💀

I'm like 90% sure my angle in that screenshot was godlike

[chilly field]

a

cuz 1 aint red its just sandy

nor is it pink

[calm widget]

yea i wanted to go back and change the colour and just could not get hte textures how it was before

its not like theres a million settings

im trying making the whole body glow a tiny tiny bit

just to see if that would make things look better

interesting

I think i made it glow too much but it actually works

[midnight verge]

damn u got featured along side skibidi toilet 🔥 🔥

[calm widget]

not only did i get featured for 1/4 of the time of skibidi toilet and none of the giants features were featured

but he deleted my comment

😭

[midnight verge]

honestly i’m fine with the texture and color of the current pink giant imo

[valid oar]

wait is it the creators who block commenss or is it yt

[thorn sage]

i dont think viperian did it

youtube itself deletes a ton of comments

[valid oar]

cuz one time yt blocked my comment 4 times

[thorn sage]

^

i tried responding to viperian's video and my messages were always hidden from others lmao

[midnight verge]

yeah sometimes i post comments and they straight up don’t appear

[valid oar]

yt actin up

[thorn sage]

yt just doodoo

[calm widget]

maybe it wasnt him true

also no one mentioned titan's footstep colour being "saddle brown"!?

still a bnit too glowy but i actually like it

[midnight verge]

is that the actual color name? lol

[valid oar]

what if you make it pulse might be a tiny bit laggy tho

[calm widget]

dont think its one of those things i can make pulse

[midnight verge]

i haven’t tried the new update yet.. did u manage to solve all the post processing stuff relating to the particles?

[calm widget]

not really, the footstep particles look a lot better tho

also i like this

[midnight verge]

ooh i do like the new look

[calm widget]

wtf

these guys only exclusively wanna spawn on the stairs

[midnight verge]

honestly i don’t know how the game decides the spawn points of monsters outside

inside its the vents, outside it seems random

[calm widget]

yeah its random but its funny how the game exclusively decided 4 spawns ion a row is the stairs

also nah couldnt really fix it

[midnight verge]

oh well. maybe some day in the future.

[calm widget]

yea

for now ill push an update for the slightly better colours

now im really unsure of what to add though, ill implement the damaging of dogs and baboon hawks but after that...

[midnight verge]

someone also suggested this, but i think a deep crunch sound should play when a forest giant gets eaten (disappears)

[calm widget]

@low girder @bleak shale if you guys wanna make it ill add it

[midnight verge]

what’s the sound file format these guys use?

[calm widget]

.wav i believe

[dusky lark]

.wavs are pretty big files. I think they changed to .ogg to save lotsa space now.

[calm widget]

yeah but since i dont do many sounds like they do, i use their .wav's

i think thats what sashimi meant

[low girder]

Loud and clear🫡

[calm widget]

also footsteps damage baboon hawks and dogs now

[low girder]

We provide WAV since it’s the highest quality. However the audio format Xu decides to go with is purely xu’s discretion. Wav files aren’t too bad if you just have a few

[calm widget]

not a lot and it wont kill em, but itll get them pretty low

v 1.6.3 ENEMY DAMAGE UPDATE!

• Footsteps can damage baboon hawks and dogs now.

• Colours feel smoother and the giant is easier to look at.

• Mostly QoL changes.

• I'm running out of ideas and features for this monster, hop on the discord and suggest me some! also like the mod thanks.
  https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/XuXiaolan/TheGiantSpecimens/

gonna upload the update now

it'd be nice if i could get people like insym or psycho to play the mod, that'd be peak

Alright... time to start working on modelling the next enemy

[dim roost]

so i grew inspired

||Waterwood Giant Forest Keeper||

[midnight verge]

ooh ok

[calm widget]

forgot to respond to this, i wont put it as an option purely because I actually haven't seen much of the effect itself

lol

plus just imagine how when you're walking over leaves you try to walk over as many crispy leaves as possible

[dim roost]

hmm, kk

[calm widget]

the giant doesnt change his route, all he does is just, slightly move his feet towards your head if you're nearby

[dim roost]

will certainly add a bit more risk with mob drops. .u.

[midnight verge]

🥞 👈 u when red giant treats u like burger king foot lettuce

[calm widget]

this is gonna take a while lol

[midnight verge]

😮

and after all the giants are added in.. new feature: u can turn into these giants when u bite ur finger kek

[calm widget]

😂

Sounds like control company should just add animations to player models that do that

[dim roost]

little idea for dry boyo here. after the main body is done, maybe apply some asymmetry with its branches and shape? something to add some "jag" to it

[midnight verge]

slap some branches on the back too

so back side isn’t so flat and featureless like red boy

[wet flare]

Somebody should add a titan monster mod

Imagine a titan chasing after u on Titan map lol

[restive terrace]

IM ACTUALLY LOVING THIS

[restive terrace]

eyy letsgo

cant wait for its mechs

[safe maple]

Doesn’t look too bad

I like his face

[ember mauve]

Will this one pretend to be a tree?

[dim roost]

thanks. thought an aquatic one would be fun to brainstorm. also needed something to bust boredom at work, so probably wont go beyond a sketch

[dim roost]

iirc, it'll eat other enemies (aside from default giants), but if it grabs you, it'll straight up yeet you off into the distance (which could kill you)

thing about the pretending to be a tree idea, if you memorize the shape(s) it makes, as well as the color scheme, it wont be nearly as deadly anymore

hmm, may have another idea for a giant sketch... in name at least. i'll think about it later

[midnight verge]

The Bepis Giant

[ember mauve]

It could definitely be a threat if you're running from something and you don't pay attention

[dim roost]

true, but i believe part of the vision would be that it's less stealth, more charge.

[ember mauve]

Ah I see

Main thing is just I would like to see more situational threats in the game

Like the locker

[dim roost]

heck that thing. i love it

[ember mauve]

Same

[restive terrace]

swamp tree

Swampwood Giant

[silk zodiac]

if you some how kill the red giant the left one could be a body

[ebon thistle]

WOOOOO LETS GOOO

[dapper silo]

name consideration: driftwood giant, pretty awesome concept tho ngl !

[calm widget]

My guy, driftwood giant is literally taken

By this thread's owner

😭

[dim roost]

funny nuff, im the one that suggested Driftwood after Leafless was revealed to describe all 4

[dapper silo]

oh is it? I don't remember seeing that, sorry. I just know about the 4

[zenith knoll]

🇾🇴🇴🇴

Thats awesome!

[lilac dragon]

Lmao why tf

[lilac dragon]

Yea it very much is

[lilac dragon]

“- I'm running out of ideas and features for this monster, hop on the discord and suggest me some!”

Yea it really doesn’t need anymore it’s basically as finished and polished as it can be

Great work

[shell glade]

This actually looks pretty good, glad the textures are more visible 🤣

I tried to show my stream the textures I had done but the giant was just a silhouette in broad daylight haha

[shell glade]

Don't do the branches. I gotchu on that part and the cleanup/rigging.

Just make it T-Pose and the rest I can do real easy

[calm widget]

Okay good thing you mentioned that before I made them, in terms of T-pose ill try my best? I'm trying out the skin modifier lol

[dim roost]

so Redwood aint spawning on any of Wes' moons, even with a value of 9999. sure you have the naming convention correct?

[trim flax]

its very possible this mod is incompatible with lethal expansion moons

havent looked to confirm it but

[desert totem]

Not true for me, I've had Redwood spawn on Junic and Oldred at least

That was at least a couple days ago though

[dapper silo]

seconding this, but with desolation instead. edit: I loaded up the game but im having trouble getting the redwood to spawn at all, even on experimentation or vow

[shell glade]

I've had it spawn on Atlantica

[dim roost]

hmm

[valid oar]

Ive also had it spawn on etern

Sent pics prob thr first pics of the giant

[dim roost]

how come i cant get it to spawn... unless it's required to have ALL moon names in the spawn chance coding...

[calm widget]

Hmm

Thats weird... I'll boot up the game in a bit and check the spawn weights

And by a bit I mean half an hour

I'm making food

[trim flax]

@calm widget it prob wont work on any le moons

[dim roost]

current spawn weights for me are:
ExperimentationLevel@0,AssuranceLevel@250,VowLevel@1000,OffenseLevel@250,MarchLevel@1000,RendLevel@500,DineLevel@500,TitanLevel@500,Modded@500,InfernisLevel@9999,PorcerinLevel@9999,EternLevel@9999,Asteroid13Level@0,GratarLevel@0,PolarusLevel@500,AtlanticaLevel@500,CosmocosLevel@0,JunicLevel@9999,GloomLevel@500,DesolationLevel@500,OldredLevel@500

just added back the few that i deleted (the ones with 0 weight)

ill be giving it a test as well

[trim flax]

.

[calm widget]

I managed to see spawn weight before tho

[trim flax]

and it actually works on moon tho?

[limpid whale]

Lmao @calm widget I actually saw a Baboon Hawk try to attack a Redwood earlier

It was funny

😂

[calm widget]

Hmm but why would it have a spawn weight and not spawn

[trim flax]

wym by spawn weight

[calm widget]

Like .rarity

[trim flax]

in the lethal expansion selectablelevel?

[calm widget]

I checked the outside enemies .rarity fir my enemy

Just checked the roundmanager.instance.iutsideenemies and checked for enemy with my giants name

Hold on lemme find the code

[calm widget]

maybe i put in the names wong for wesley's moons and didnt notice, but its shown me spawn weight on asteroid13 in a couple others iirc

[trim flax]

very suprised by this

hmm

[calm widget]

the worst part about testing spawn weight in wesleys moons

is having them in the testing pack and adding a straight minute to loading time

[trim flax]

when are you registering your enemy

[calm widget]

https://github.com/XuuXiao/GiantSpecimens/blob/main/Plugin/src/Plugin.cs

not 100% sure when this happens

this is how it was for example enemy

[trim flax]

no fucking clue how you’d get your enemy in a le moon ngl 😭

Like I believe you but it conflicts with what I know

[calm widget]

Lol, I'm gonna boot up and check the spawn weight, I don't see why it would get "registered" but not at the same time

[trim flax]

Because the LE SelectableLevel’s shouldn’t exist when LethalLib does its stuff

[calm widget]

hmm thing is i've had people mention having my enemy before

it cant be that my custom config overrid that

huh maybe the way i wrote my config isnt working

i just checked the spawn weight in a random moon, Etern, and it said 0

[lilac dragon]

I’ve seen screenshots of it on etern

A Wesley LE moon

[calm widget]

yeah but i just checked its spawn weight rn with default config, 0

[lilac dragon]

[calm widget]

ah i see why

two things

no wait

Hmm

imma regenerate my config

it wasnt right

man i cant see shit in my logs

[dim roost]

alright bootin up my game to test

[calm widget]

its all sand spider AI null spam

what did etern break with sand spiders

[dim roost]

only spiders that spawn outside are on Infernis

[calm widget]

ah wait that's starlancerAI fix making the error

Okay im kinda seeing the problem

[dim roost]

eh?

[calm widget]

okay so

the thing with modded moon spawn stuff

you wont* need LLL downloaded (because it changes what the level names are and i use their level names unless @gray dock changes them to how LLL formats the names), and you'll need to wait for lethal lib to update and fix the spawn stuff bugs lol

also wesley by that i mean changing moon names like "154 Etern" to "EternLevel", same format as vanilla 😭

I'll push an update out in a bit actually, i need to use wesley's assigned names lol

pls fix the formatting wesley

[limpid whale]

I imagine this will happen once the move to LLL comes

[calm widget]

LLL already does it automatically

but LE and LLL have different moon loading times, so my enemy doesnt work with LLL but works with LE

@trim flax fix this ya bum

[limpid whale]

😆

Batby might already have it fixed in the new release that's coming 🔜 but who knows

Soon emoji being whenever it's ready, Batby said no etas

[trim flax]

#dev-general message

[calm widget]

in terms of the naming, I blame wesley

but other stuff i blame you 😭

[limpid whale]

Lol you've awoken Wesley now

[gray dock]

lmao
yeah I'll change that eventually

[calm widget]

deserved

Now i gotta figure out what numbers all his moons use and add that to my config :deadge

[gray dock]

I wrote them down in my post

[calm widget]

oh wow they actually are

okay good ty

[calm widget]

exp has 50 weight, pretty low, vow should have higher but no guarantees unless you change your config, they do work afaik tho, im fixing the modded spawns rn

[dapper silo]

When I was having that issue I set both to 999 and let the time go to night, but tbh I mightve just messed up somewhere

[calm widget]

weird, coulda just been really bad luck

[mortal moss]

i think the spawnrates for wesley's moons might be incorrect. it has them as [Moon]Level instead of just [Moon] which is the internal name for wesley's moons

[calm widget]

its actually [number Moon] but LLL changed it to [Moon]Level which made me put it as such but yeah next patch fixes it

just waiting on a lethal lib update too

[mortal moss]

lethallib got an update just a bit ago i think?

[mortal moss]

i don't think the numbers are part of it either

[calm widget]

nah they are

[calm widget]

theres a different update im waiting for, but turns out itll be tmrw or later so ill just upload my update now

[mortal moss]

based on other level based things, just [Moon] seems to work?

[calm widget]

based on Wesley's names and my experiments, No.

[mortal moss]

also would [Moon]Level@0 work to prevent it from spawning somewhere?

[mortal moss]

what's the updated spawnrates then so i could just copy paste it in?

[calm widget]

ye but not Level, number [Moon] lmao

[mortal moss]

i was just giving a generic example for any moon

[calm widget]

Modded@0,ExperimentationLevel@50,AssuranceLevel@100,VowLevel@200,OffenseLevel@100,MarchLevel@200,RendLevel@200,DineLevel@100,TitanLevel@200,46 Infernis@100,76 Porcerin@200,154 Etern@150,57 Asteroid13@200,147 Gratar@100,94 Polarus@150,44 Atlantica@25,42 Cosmocos@200,84 Junic@150,36 Gloom@200,48 Desolation@150,134 Oldred@100

anyway heres the config values you need

[mortal moss]

thank

76 porcerin feels wrong, because that's not acidir's name anymore

[calm widget]

blame @gray dock

😭

not me

[mortal moss]

so it goes

[gray dock]

I take full responsibility

[mortal moss]

also, does the redwood have custom colors on the moons?

[calm widget]

responsibility usually entails fixing it 😂

[calm widget]

ye

but i need to update that too

lol

[mortal moss]

ooh, are there any screenshots?

aw

[calm widget]

update will be up in like 40 minutes

[gray dock]

I take half responsibility

[calm widget]

#blameWesley

[calm widget]

thats what i thought

[gray dock]

lmao
I didn't know it was that much of an issue
I'll fix it eventually

[midnight verge]

who will take the other half 😮

[calm widget]

the issue comes from how LLL, LE and LL interact

a lot of L's I know

basically this is the order of stuff, LE, LL, LLL

when I need it to be, LE, LLL, LL

you wouldnt need to do anything if it was LE, LLL, LL

but yeah

lets just hope it doesnt become LLL LE LL

or LLL LL LE

[midnight verge]

cmon ur doing this on purpose arent u

🥹

[calm widget]

maybe the last 2

[gray dock]

LoL

[calm widget]

LLL and LE you already know, LL is LethalLib lol

[gray dock]

I can only imagine how funny a redwood giant on gratar would look

[midnight verge]

so that bot in #thunderstore-releases gets the update first before the actual thunderstore page shows it? 🤨

[calm widget]

you can manually download the update

[calm widget]

they fit decently well

also they can cross the bridges

[mortal moss]

was the atlantica water changed to actually work?

[calm widget]

i dont know?

#1204432295025578014

[mortal moss]

oh

forgot this wasnt the thread

[gray dock]

They are like half the size of an island lol
Aesthetically they do look nice there

[mortal moss]

seems the redwood giant makes purple stomp particles on etern's very yellow sand

[trim flax]

which

[calm widget]

I'm not the one who choose the colours 😂

[calm widget]

lethal lib

[trim flax]

which problem

[calm widget]

just an update that fixes some spawning on specific moons logic

like if you dont have Modded in your LevelTypes, you cant add modded Moons to your list, and .All's spawn weight overrides everything else etc

hamunii's working on it but its 11am so i let her sleep

[trim flax]

ah easy

but yeah the stuff i do is intentional and won't be fixed, unfortunately

i understand the problem it can cause though

[calm widget]

you're not touching the problem with LL loading before LLL?

[trim flax]

oh i meant me changing level names

[calm widget]

oh no im for that

like theres a good 50 50 Wesley just hates name conventions

[trim flax]

nah its LE's fault

it uses the planetname which is for display purposes to make the selectablelevel asset name

without any santisation

[calm widget]

Oh

why'd he not speak up for himself 😭

[trim flax]

oh no its still wesley fuckup

but its le on why it matters

wait no

its not wesley fuckup

im tired

forgive me

[calm widget]

lol

you know the uno meme of pulling 20 cards?

[gray dock]

forgiven

[calm widget]

"Port moons to LLL or make another 20 moons" Wesley:

[trim flax]

were waiting on a programming problem for wesley ports

#1218363571554226287

[gray dock]

More like

[faint needle]

just encountered this guy with a friend for the first time, so fuckin cool

he ate two giants

wonder what the next guy [forgot his name, think its mangrove] is gonna be like

[limpid whale]

Lmao it's funny seeing you say this, with the image right above it

😂

[gray dock]

LOL

[limpid whale]

Wesley out here causing comedy without even meaning to 😆

[calm widget]

Someone make a real video showcasing this mod 😭

[limpid whale]

Give it time I'm sure Viperion will

[calm widget]

He gave me 30 seconds of a model showcase of the old textured

LOL

It was a pretty bad showcase tbh

[limpid whale]

lol

[shell glade]

I showcased it on my twitch stream if that counts haha

[calm widget]

I'll take that

I'll find it later and clip it 🙏

[shell glade]

I'll try to get a good look at him next time we stream some lethal company

[vocal flower]

Look who I found :3

[zenith knoll]

Big boi

[limpid whale]

Why does your fog look like that?

Also idk why you'd try to attack the Giant it's harmless

It only attacks other Giants

[vocal flower]

WeatherTweaks mod

[limpid whale]

WeatherTweaks doesn't do that for me 😦

[vocal flower]

I know, but it seemed fun to try anyway. You never know! :3

[vocal flower]

Tbh, I am not even sure if it is WeatherTweaks.
The funny thing is that the terminal showed "None" and then I come across a semi-fog which is half none and half foggy.

[limpid whale]

lol

[restive terrace]

@calm widget seems like this will be coming sooner than expected (theres still a lot of work to be done, but still.. theres a lot of progress with #1219082379025715220 on the horizon 😄 ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oHQQ_Jj2nA

[limpid whale]

Perfect, now we just need one that goes with the Lethal Resonance main menu theme

🙂

Btw I hope you can migrate your SCP Intro mod to Bongo's API at some point, I think that would be so cool 😄

[restive terrace]

Im pretty sure @low girder will work on it once Emblem is already in a desired state. Since they have their own audio + artist army 😄 but if they'd like me to make it I can also make it for them 😄

[restive terrace]

yeah I've been wanting to do it 😄 but I've got these themes to work on currently and IRL stuff xd but I'll be switching to that API sooner or later

[low girder]

artist army is wild, theres like 3 of us and one of us just did music and dipped

[restive terrace]

oh didnt know.. 😮

[main forge]

Is there any issue with brutal and the giants mod?

[calm widget]

Not afaik

[main forge]

Coo

[calm widget]

You forgot how nirmal vanilla looks like?

[limpid whale]

That isn't normal Vanilla fog on March

Vanilla fog on March makes it so you can't see shit