even with standart interior its hard, like it don't has a ceiling that is same height every time and/or that is flat
#Xenomorph
sullen fox
whats the feature?
tawdry lark
the solution would be to detect the ceiling height and if its large enough
could be doable
tawdry lark
whats the feature?
i dont have one in particular in mind
but i guess the venting stuff
sullen fox
i mean i can help lol, going through vents though.... should be easy? 
you'd probably detect and go to a vent, then warp teh agent to another agent
clever parrot
the solution would be to detect the ceiling height and if its large enough
can u copy that from the spider tho?
tawdry lark
i am asking help with the behavior stuff remember
clever parrot
that function
tawdry lark
i am asking help with the ~~behavior~~ stuff remember
networking***
bruh
@sullen fox the feature is already done, now i need help to make it work in multiplayer
potent jacinthBOT
Hello, @tawdry lark, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.
sullen fox
<@514120543046336516> the feature is already done, now i need help to make it wo...
ah... right
you're using xilo's template right?
tawdry lark
skibidi toilet ? yes
sullen fox
tawdry lark
basicaly i'd need someone to explain me (by doing it) how to do that, like what do we need to send to client and what is already handled by unity/zeekee, why doing it like this, whatever information that i would need to know and with a direct exemple that i can see working
sullen fox
that makes sense
basically, zeekers/unity do almost nothing in terms of sending information to clients, your code is what determines that
the way information is transmitted is through RPC's usually
RPC's are split into ClientRpc's and ServerRpc's, where only a server (host) can call a client rpc, and any client (including host) can call a server rpc
calling a client rpc's means that everyone runs the code inside that rpc, it's just a function with the clientrpc attribute after all
and calling a serverrpc means only the host/server runs the code inside that function
tawdry lark
do we have to send data back to client ourself ? like i mean if i do server side function to let say get a random number, do i have to then call a client side stuff to share the value ?
sullen fox
for stuff like random numbers, you'd need to make an instance of System.Random and everyone would make that instance using the same seed
something like using hte game's map seed or smthjn similar
tawdry lark
ye but for the exemple let forget about seed, pure random outcome...
for what i imagine, client dont get any information back from a server thing
so need to use a client one to update them about stuff right (when needed) ?
sullen fox
here's an example
everyone runs this code, everyone now knows that hte nest is created, and whether its outside or not
mossy hill
tawdry lark
wah ?
tawdry lark
oh btw, things almost got terrible for me here at the clinic
sullen fox
tawdry lark
they wanted to take away my laptop (and anyone with large electronic stuff) because, by what they said, it caused electricity problem
id say it was most likely because of the storm
but yea, almost got foocked here
brave orchid
.
tawdry lark
ya guys want update ?
sullen fox
Sure
tawdry lark
time is flying and so is motivation : being stuck on the same thing for so long is rough (networking still), its not the fun part of the work and not the easiest to playtest
tawdry lark
oh btw with the new update : is everything mod related fine or some stuff broke that i should know about ? didnt notice issue so far
sullen fox
I dont remember tbh lol, maybe KillPlayer changed
brave orchid
tawdry lark
ow :v
tawdry lark
im going to retry on fresh base
i just saw that the wiki got nicely updated
and also i just thought of asking... lord chatgpt, maybe bro can help with network aswell lol
tho im stuck updating my unityproject again, i asked for help [here](#dev-general message)
tawdry lark
@sterile badge halp
tawdry lark
oki
brave orchid
clever parrot
Things ain't Goin well are they?
sullen fox
Still waiting on v60... 😔
clever parrot
Sad
Also is that a new alien movie?
The romolus one
Becus I never heard of it🧐
tawdry lark
Also is that a new alien movie?
ye
tawdry lark
@clever parrot and ye, idk why exactly (like how it works), but i can't work with the latest lethal company updated script until the template get updated
tawdry lark
but when i can i will go hard on it like it was when i begun cuse i found new ways to maybe deal with network stuff
clever parrot
Noice
tawdry lark
that got me demotivated (with some other thing) to be stuck at the same step for very long
clever parrot
that got me demotivated (with some other thing) to be stuck at the same step for...
That makes sense tbh
brave orchid
i just watched romulus it was amazing
tawdry lark
i just came back to the clinic so that aint happening soon for me x_x
sullen fox
ExampleEnemy will be updated for v60 tmrw/as soon as I wake up
sullen fox
https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-horderbug-yippee-gif-gif-56580633611590833...
im working on the update rn ^^
lol
it is a tiny bit late but yea
tawdry lark
id like to understand why it was generating errors, i am not familiar with programming outside of an engine
sullen fox
dunno, I'll give it a check when i've updated it
sullen fox
@tawdry lark example enemy has been updated
you'll need to wait for hamunii to wake up to accept the pull request, but u can just use it because its a PR
tawdry lark
yay
muted frigate
Hey guys, I was informed by someone that there is a xenomorph mod being worked on, and scrolling through the chat so far, it looks really good, well done. Is it cool if I could maybe pitch in some future ideas, ever since ive watch romulus, ive been obsessed with Alien.
forgot to say I don't wanna bother you guys if you're in too deep.
also I don't know how to mod, only know how to come up with ideas.
drifting swallow
I am learning how to code just to make alien life cycle
in lethal
like deadass
heady lichen
Do you want to include facehuggers into the mod to? So the Xenomorf wouldnt just spawn like any other monster, but it would have a cycle to go through.
Oh, never mind. I just saw a conversetion about it here (there are a lot of comments in here), but the ideas are looking pretty great. I just hope that this would be brought to reality
( at least LCs reality 😅)
muted frigate
I am learning how to code just to make alien life cycle
That would be sick
you know what, ima just make a massive, fully fleshed out document of my ideas, maybe just release them, and just let people find a way to incorporate it into lc, that way, I can get it out there and maybe some day, have it become a reality
tawdry lark
you can give idea ofc
as for the life cycle, you need to find a good way to implement it without breaking lethal company "flow"
also i cant go watch the new movie for a while so no spoiler :V
tawdry lark
ok big problem, im still unable to get to update my project
i am really out of my element there its so frustrating
i may look dumb (i am) but i really don't know much about this kind of thing
tawdry lark
@heady bobcat i think imma need you again
tawdry lark
i dont even manage to create a new project when following the guides
signal tendon
<@491029255795376158> i think imma need you again
Xilef has been absent for some time now, they've still not updated their entity mods so I don't know if they are gonna be able to help
heady bobcat
I am still alive lol, but yeah school's been rough
tawdry lark
I am still alive lol, but yeah school's been rough
good luck with that
and as for my issue well following the tuto to setup the project just get me to an error so yea
heady bobcat
But what do you mean update your project?
You mean switch the assembly to the enw one?
tawdry lark
i think yea... not very familiar with that stuff and the vocabular
#dev-enemies message <- got this
muted frigate
as for the life cycle, you need to find a good way to implement it without break...
All good, just let me know what the "flow" of the game really is, that way if you wanna take suggestions, it'll be easy for you, don't wanna burden you with anything, take ur time no rush.
tawdry lark
All good, just let me know what the "flow" of the game really is, that way if yo...
no worries, you are allowed to make as many suggestion and idea as you want
as for the flow i mean that LC expeditions on moons are kinda short and go from pretty calm to dangerous as the time goes. So how can we implement a xeno lifecycle in such low amount of time ?
muted frigate
Don't worry, I can figure that out.
I'll take into consideration the possible problems
ionic heart
Was really nice seeing the xeno walk around
tawdry lark
wdym i have no amination
jaunty ingot
Was really nice seeing the xeno slide around
muted frigate
@tawdry lark Is it cool if I share what I got so far? it's a google doc, I tend to write ideas down. I can answer any questions if needed.
drifting swallow
you know what, ima just make a massive, fully fleshed out document of my ideas, ...
dm me the ideas
once it is done
muted frigate
I gotchu
vocal grove
tawdry lark
oh i remember when i was hosting this gamemode... great times
tawdry lark
stop foockin vanishing from the list dam channel, i am still here >:v
tawdry lark
Guys, this is with great pleasure that i inform you that networking has begun workin
now me and my friend chatGPT are gonna work on converting all my mess
now what does that mean
if i manage to successfully convert my stuff, that will mean that i probably understood how to network, and thus the biggest issue i had
(that mean stuff is going very well)
also, i said that wanted to make the mod available only when i would considere it complete... but since the time i recon it will be better to release it in some way sooner so 1. we can finally have something to speak about and officially make this a serious subject and 2. ease the playtest especially for network kinda bug
tho it would be nice to have at least a definitive model and some simple animations for various behavior
but yeah i could release a proto version with a basic AI that chase and attack when in range + the xeno special ability to vent
the v0.1
tawdry lark
i need to write this down somewhere cuse me brain has not enough ram, and maybe you guys can help...
i am rewriting the code for network, and cleaning it a bit aswell and i found some stuff to fix
Using vents
Xeno can enter any vent regardless if it is occupied
This will open the vent if not already
-> if vent is occupied tho, it should navigate to another free vent right away
--> choosing that vent is determined by the situation
--> if no free vent available... bruh
while occupying a vent it should mark it as occupied
->? this may cause eventuality where all vent are occupied
while exiting it should free the vent
this will also open it
->? this does not follow the vanilla behavior where they are kept marked as occupied... for unknown reasons nvm
tawdry lark
note to self : add a bool isTrapped for when the xeno end up in a situation where it cannot reach any vent
rare case scenario where a xeno is trapped because of a security door :
ability to call for help if there is other xeno, those might be able to free it by smashing (disabling) the fuse box (c; @muted frigate ) or maybe even removing the apparatus (meltdown crisis intensify)
if trapped by a locked door :
ability to attack the door to breaktrough ?
clever parrot
I love the idea of the xeno calling for help and another one smashing the fuse box or taking the apparatus
Tho the hitting the big metal door part wouldn't make sense in my opinion since that is a fully metal Door and there is no way a xeno would be able to open it or even break it
But multiple of em maybe
tawdry lark
you would need a scenario where both are stuck so one beat the other to death to spash the door lol
going to far
signal tendon
I love the idea of the xeno calling for help and another one smashing the fuse b...
Adding multiple xenomorphs to the level while other monsters are around is pretty broken and unbalanced, just pretty much a guaranteed death, so probably a no
tawdry lark
note to self : dont forgor to handle behaviors when outside
muted frigate
Adding multiple xenomorphs to the level while other monsters are around is prett...
Maybe xenos could also target other monsters
tawdry lark
note to self : give ability to xeno tu use elevators if they witness someone using it
royal girder
note to self : give ability to xeno tu use elevators if they witness someone usi...
That will be horrifying if that happens
You go down the elevator, waiting for your friend, next thing you know the Xenomorph runs out
tawdry lark
ow
i didn't imagined a scenario when it will use it to exit other than chasing people
but mmh
i have those behaviour that can be "unlocked"
tawdry lark
maybe if you pissed them off
royal girder
I’m definitely doing that
Also, is this just one type of Xenomorph like Alien Isolation or different types?
tawdry lark
Also, is this just one type of Xenomorph like Alien Isolation or different types...
for now we will try to finalise one lol
but yeah with all the idea for some behaviors, it is more fitting to certain types
but i think this will only be drones and warriors
royal girder
I see okay
Well still this is probably gonna be one of my made mods when I see this available
Xenomorph are like the definition of horror at this point
tawdry lark
im trying to get to a playable pre alpha kind of thing
but i really need animations here
tawdry lark
i have spent a 3 digit number euros on some asset store thing to help making animation look better... butT i need at least some animations to use them
so now i need a final decision of which model to use, the actual one and the low poly ones both need some work
and i dunno much about rigging, but both of them are kinda confusing for me with their hiearchy
tawdry lark
and the animations i need :
- mandatory
- idle
- walking (like casualy patroling)
- running
- close range attack (like just to slap close players)
- will be needed at some point
- sneaking (idle and moving)
- entering and exiting vent
- more attack type (jump forward, ...)
- bonus
- kill animation
- vent attack
probably forgor some
tawdry lark
@signal tendon shall i seek for an animator in #1210315682613436446 or you want to do it ?
also i think you were interested in this @lyric plover, if you agree
i might be able to share the tools i buy for the person doing this, it might greatly enhance the result
i didn't tried with this one, tho it looks like it perfect
kindred igloo
What models did y'all have for this?
tawdry lark
What models did y'all have for this?
currently we didn't settled on one
but the one just above i am testing right know
i think its perfect
a bit skinny but so am i
kindred igloo
but the one just above i am testing right know
Where
tawdry lark
@kindred igloo this one
kindred igloo
Yeah seems decent
tawdry lark
Can it do that for crawling as well?
in what you see above their in no animation involved
kindred igloo
I'm asking if the same effect can be done with the arms at the same time
kindred igloo
Gotcha
So would an animator just animate the character's thighs and let the automatic legs take care of the knee and ankle motion?
tawdry lark
for the stance i need full animation
...i think
im trying to add something to make it look at something
kindred igloo
Like aiming its head at stuff?
lyric plover
Well currently wouldnt be able to do much given Im quite busy with work sadly
tawdry lark
Well currently wouldnt be able to do much given Im quite busy with work sadly
no worries just wanted to see my options
lyric plover
Okay
tawdry lark
thats noice
@kindred igloo if you are gonna start working on something, hit me first so we see how to be sure the animation will be usable for me
kindred igloo
Mhm 👍
tawdry lark
mmh have some hole there
not a big deal for me
@kindred igloo what mods did you worked on btw ?
cedar leaf
tawdry lark
idk how went that stuff you've been doing for this
cedar leaf
Cuz I have like 10gbs of sfx from isolation lmao
tawdry lark
dam
tawdry lark
well if you got sum toime...
cedar leaf
I can cook you up some sounds we just need to talk about what we actually need
tawdry lark
yis
kindred igloo
The lookerrrr
cedar leaf
Best way would be if you have the anims done you can send clips of them to me looping
And I can sync them up
Except like walkin, that would probably be better if its done sfx / step
tawdry lark
well
when i'll have them x)
- Xeno sounds
- Breathing
- Hissing
- ...and you know those sound it makes when being aggressive
- Hurt
- Die ?
- Vents
- Enter and exit
- Crawling noise through wall
- Footsteps
- If possible by category like metal, stone, ...
alright imma try to replace the old model for this one, here we go broke everything :V
cedar leaf
- Xeno sounds
- Breathing
- Hissing
- ...and you know those sound it makes wh...
Yes it is possible
tawdry lark
do that when you wish
and for the theme part, it has been long since idk how well you can make those
but i think i saw that you were able to produce great result
cedar leaf
I want to revisit my themes but Im a bit overloaded currently 😅
tawdry lark
no worries
cedar leaf
I’ll get back to it soon tho
tawdry lark
just would like to see some of your creation since
cedar leaf
You can always go to Seichi :p thats been one of my biggest work thats out rn. I’ll be updating that moon soon, and more will come ^^
cedar leaf
Yeah I’ve been cooking up moons, only 1 out but thats like 3 in 1 moon lmao (it has 3 seasons to it)
And I have 4 more in the chamber but they are not finished yet
(+2 inc) and ngl I actually want to make an Alien moon later too
tawdry lark
oh bOI
i'd like to be part of that alien moon if you dont mind, id enjoy touching moon and interior stuff
idk where i could help beside making some scripted element on the moon
cedar leaf
#1238292999969181787 - Snowichi is on DustClouds weather and Scorchi is on eclipsed. Been cooking up a huge update and still am with some peepos.
cedar leaf
i'd like to be part of that alien moon if you dont mind, id enjoy touching moon ...
Yeah we can get back to it later ^^ I’ll let you know when I can start working on it
tawdry lark
hyped
cedar leaf
idk where i could help beside making some scripted element on the moon
Thats perfectly fine
If you can do like scripts for some random hazards and some other stuff we can think of
tawdry lark
oh yeye that should not be hard
kindred igloo
I think the main thing this low poly model is lacking would be a good texture
Needs some painted highlights perhaps
tawdry lark
huh ?
wdym, explain this to an ignorant soul like me on the topic
@kindred igloo like before i hurt myself trying to use that model for nothing
tawdry lark
<#1202705355105116192>
also btw this mod is not out yet ? ;_;
cedar leaf
I mean model should be fine. Dunno about the texture, maybe we could ask someone to touch it up?
tawdry lark
i myself never was the kind to complain on graphics
cedar leaf
And note that the material of it will be different ingame
tawdry lark
f
kindred igloo
also btw this mod is not out yet ? ;_;
I need to make some more shaped keys, but I've been lazy lol
Might tonight
warm whale
this is sick
tawdry lark
Alright guys, big bad news
All the nice looking thing i showcased above (head look, tail, feet IK), are gonna be hard to add them into my mod dll
All of those work using scripts from the asset store, and like all script you can't just have them with the asst bundle
So me myself i believe it is doable, like they are just script
but this is now out of my skills to figure out how
If you know people that can help with this...
that was nice to play around with those tool, was refreshing to take a break from the ai
ill be so sad if i cant use them :c
cedar leaf
@sterile badge do you have any idea? 
sterile badge
To use scripts in asset bundles, you need to reference the scripts from DLLs similar to how you reference your own mod's DLL, and just remember that you'll then need that dll with those extra scripts for your mod to work. So, just figure out how to compile the scripts yourself, or find out where their dlls are if they are compiled already
tawdry lark
To use scripts in asset bundles, you need to reference the scripts from DLLs sim...
problem is they are not compiled, and i am confused as how to do it since some of them reference the editor
so if someone competent would agree to look at this ill add him to the pat everyday list
for now the solution i will try to do is the looooooong process of looking though all those script and rewriting them in a way that works x_x
sterile badge
problem is they are not compiled, and i am confused as how to do it since some o...
yeah, I don't really know how since I've never done that, but if you just find the source code, you could create a new C# library project targeting netstandard 2.1 and just move the source code there and then just compile. But yeah, idk if that's stupid or if there's a better way to do it because I've not really messed with Unity stuff
tawdry lark
yeah, I don't really know how since I've never done that, but if you just find t...
ive seen that there is a way to compile stuff durectly from unity
through assembly definition
...hold up tho, if it is really possible
would this not be like a better way to do mod ? :v
sterile badge
...hold up tho, if it is really possible
would this not be like a better way t...
like creating your mod directly inside Unity? It's surely an option
I personally though don't wanna touch Unity as it's big and slow and bloated and kinda unstable
sterile badge
ive seen that there is a way to compile stuff durectly from unity
but yeah that sounds like the best option then if you can figure it out
tawdry lark
I personally though don't wanna touch Unity as it's big and slow and bloated and...
assembly definition exist so unity doesnt have to recompile everything that is not in the same assembly so it should be faster
i mean thats what i think i understood when trying to figure out my issue yesterday ;_;
sterile badge
I see, though personally at least I have no issues with just a separate C# project that I can work on without needing Unity which is super nice
sterile badge
I see, though personally at least I have no issues with just a separate C# proje...
and for the having the mod's dll be in Unity, it's simple to automate copying it over and stuff. So I can't really see any benefits to it, other than probably not requiring Unity Netcode Patcher to replicate what Unity does without building the mod in Unity
sterile badge
but the setup for people that dont know much should be simpler
Hmm, possibly? But it requires them to install Unity Hub, make an account, activate a free license, install the right Unity editor version, and then they have set up stuff. Well, they'll still need a code editor
tawdry lark
right, that was just a thing that came to my mind...
but i dont care about this anyway lol, me want to find solution to my problem ;_;
sterile badge
haha, ye
tawdry lark
im ready to pay people that would try to help, and add big bonus reward if they succeed o-°
grave maple
The idea sounds very cool, will there be like... the eggs as well as perhaps "scrap" / items sellable to the company?
tawdry lark
The idea sounds very cool, will there be like... the eggs as well as perhaps "sc...
this is an idea we thinked about...
i imagined it like it would be one single egg at a nest location
that if taken would make the xeno enter mad mode like the hoarding bug
grave maple
this is an idea we thinked about...
i imagined it like it would be one single eg...
Would it be similar to how mask works? A chance for it to open and yeet the hugger in your face while carrying it.
While the company would pay a decent price for it, I can imagine them being ethically similar to how Wayland works lol
tawdry lark
if it fesable maybe have some kind of interaction yes
im thinking maybe if you plan on taking it you will need to watch it while carrying it and if it start being active you'd have to spray some weedkiller on it to make it stop
grave maple
Would be cool...
tawdry lark
I may be cooking with my issue...
tawdry lark
OH BOI
is workin
editor only thing ? yeet those
cool UI ? fuck it
private variable ? dont care lets hard code the value i need
assembly definition ? now its mine
...just need to hand copy past 76 float value now x_x
tawdry lark
im going to commit unalive
tawdry lark
@cedar leaf @sterile badge @summer cloud @sullen fox @rapid tendon
i foockin DID IT :V
now give me 2 more day for the tail and the legs... x_x
tawdry lark
what i had to do is not pretty
rapid tendon
lmao
tawdry lark
some value got hard coded
some script are fully commented lol
ill try to see if i can remove those without breaking everything
cedar leaf
letsgo
tawdry lark
wait you did all that for head turning?
i did all that to make some asset store script work in game
all those many script had well looking user interface in editor
sullen fox
icic
tawdry lark
wait you did all that for head turning?
but its not that simple, it is way more polished
sullen fox
ic, okie
summer cloud
ayy nice good job
tawdry lark
and now i should be able to make the legs IK and the tail simulator work with less pain
but later i spent the whole day on this, i knew there was a way
tawdry lark
@sullen fox here idk if you saw that, this is what i want to bring
sullen fox
Ah dynamic footsteps
Lemme know when u get a script for that workin
I'll steal if
It*
tawdry lark
I'll steal if
i dunno if i even have the right to share those since they are paid tools tho :v
sullen fox
Hmm link it
tawdry lark
Hmm link it
sullen fox
Geez u spent that much on it?
tawdry lark
in any case i got to "fix" it and then depending on the amount of parameter i want to modify it might get heavy on the hard coding value
tawdry lark
Geez u spent that much on it?
those are tool i use for all my unity project
is not just for this mod haha
sullen fox
Ic
tawdry lark
they are good investisment
and i took them when in sale
i still miss a few i want actually
@sullen fox mmmh look at this juicy terrible thing
sullen fox
Lol disgusting
tawdry lark
yea
but it works
i dunno why when i tried referencing stuff like usual it was always null or empty
kindred igloo
have there been any ideas on how the xeno AI is gonna work? Mechanics?
tawdry lark
ofc
so much that im still unsure of which to go for
im trying to rethink of a good way to store "suspicious event"
like mainly noises
rapid tendon
<@514120543046336516> mmmh look at this juicy terrible thing
oh god does it not store the weights somewhere from the editor?
so you can just load them in xD
less hastle in other projects you will want to use it in later
tawdry lark
oh god does it not store the weights somewhere from the editor?
i tried
was null or empty for some reason
ill try again, but for now at least i know it can work
tawdry lark
Guys !
@cedar leaf @sterile badge @summer cloud @sullen fox @rapid tendon
My baby first steps !
(well not really actually but the new version of it)
sullen fox
Nice
sterile badge
Nice! (except I can't see the video because internet is being slow lol)
sullen fox
It's just the enemy pathijg and breaking a bit but in an intended way
tawdry lark
It's just the enemy pathijg and breaking a bit but in an intended way
nah i just doesn't have animation anymore
so when he vents he just... continue
sullen fox
Oh I just meant u don't hide the mesh lol
sterile badge
put down the hottub streams quality
lmao, well it definitely isn't me watching that, maybe someone else on this wifi...
tawdry lark
lmao, well it definitely isn't me watching that, maybe someone else on this wifi...
no you're the one streamin it owo
sterile badge
owo
summer cloud
oooo nice gj, the finished result is gonna be so sick
kinda love how goofy it looks gliding through the vents and the walls tho lmao
tawdry lark
kinda love how goofy it looks gliding through the vents and the walls tho lmao
its so foony being chase by this rn
doing tiny steps
cedar leaf
tawdry lark
2 days, 2 plugin
1 left
this one difficulty was figuring out that the script initialised too soon after my enemy spawned and didn't receive the updated reference
royal girder
YO! I’m excited for these baby steps to become toddlers
tawdry lark
jaunty ingot
After the normal alien is done perhaps you could try a outdoor queen alien
kindred igloo
Feel like if there's a xeno queen it should specifically be summoned by pulling a xeno egg (valued and collected like an apparatus) out of a xeno interior
kindred igloo
I think we just call that an immigrant
rapid tendon
just have the face hugger infect the actual player and have it hatch on the next moon they go to 😄
tawdry lark
idk if i spoke about that subject here
butT
as we said a long time ago, it would hard to add a xenomorph life cycle within lethal company environment
we definitly can't make it lore accurate
i got an idea that may allow to add that feature of being "infected"
if you get infected (for reason we have to define), youre not gonna randomly burst a new problem
instead, if you happen to die while being infected, only then it can come out
or maybe if you get low health
like injured state or dead = say bye bye
that would also only happen in the followings days, not the one where you got infected
lastly we have to think about an eventual counter to that, what do you do if you know you are pregnant ?
do we have a way to prevent the fate
maybe just a simple % chance of it happening that would decrease over days
there i'd like people thought on this
kindred igloo
I think it would be like
"Facehuggers can only spawn while the moon is being generated"
after being facehugged, an employee will be on a timer that is randomly between like 3 and 4 minutes
at the end of that timer a small xenomorph explodes out of them
they die as a result of this of course
facehuggers despawn and can't appear indoors after like, 3pm
tawdry lark
the scenario im trying to avoid is for people to endup like they know they are gonna die
need a counterplay
kindred igloo
the counterplay is not getting facehugged
tawdry lark
this anwser while being obvious is problematic
kindred igloo
nah it's just like a snare flea
tawdry lark
snare flea either you are saved or you die
kindred igloo
right and the facehugger would also be able to be shoveled off by a teammate or something
tawdry lark
not a timer with no hope
people are gonna end up just suiciding in a hole or idk so the problem is solved
kindred igloo
that's a couple minutes they could be spending getting PROFITS for the COMPANY
rapid tendon
even if, the window of time are short
cough cough snare flea random chance to infect when knocked off the players head :3
as then it makes it like are they infected?
kindred igloo
god my math brain is failing me right now
rapid tendon
what math ya trying to do
kindred igloo
if 11 minutes irl equates to 16 hours in-game then how long is an in-game hour in real time
rapid tendon
about 41 seconds
tawdry lark
16 / 11 lol
kindred igloo
= 1.4545...
kindred igloo
about 41 seconds
oh ok
rapid tendon
but bascially i multipled the 11hrs by 60 to get it into minutes to make the math simpler
kindred igloo
11/16 = 0.6875
(0.6875) x (60) = 41.25
rapid tendon
that works too i guess lmao
kindred igloo
math do be like that
anyway
3 minutes IRL is... like roughly 4 hours in-game
so if you get facehugged at high noon then you're probably good until about 4pm
tawdry lark
oh yea 11/16 oops
tawdry lark
i have some issue with the tail
idk why it doesnt detect collision on mesh collider
russian xeno warning
kindred igloo
ah yeah that's not surprising
since you can throw eggs and fleshbangs through those floors
tawdry lark
since you can throw eggs and fleshbangs through those floors
oh really ?
i dont really know how to fix this beside adding my own box collider on every tile lol
sullen fox
im pretty sure railings are "TRIGGERS" and the mesh colliders do not have TRIGGER turned on so you dont phase through them, but the top of the railings have an edxtra collider iirc that ISNT a trigger
tawdry lark
im pretty sure railings are "TRIGGERS" and the mesh colliders do not have TRIGGE...
i tried logging the collider yesterday and im not sure about that
but i installed the whole game project like in the audioknight tuto so i can see everything
ill look at this later
sullen fox
oki
kindred igloo
i dont really know how to fix this beside adding my own box collider on every ti...
You fix it by not making the tail drag because xenos don't really drag their tails
Try turning off gravity for the tail see how it looks
tawdry lark
You fix it by not making the tail drag because xenos don't really drag their tai...
it does in alien isolation and it does add to the feeling
lets imagine we have the floor collision working tho, if i remove gravity it will behave kinda like a trail depending on the xeno speed
i dont want it to be animated by hand
tawdry lark
verticaly or horizontaly ?
kindred igloo
Probably horizontal for slow movement and definitely b vertically when chasing
tawdry lark
well
it will inherit the whole body motion
so if the xeno does have his hips moving up and down with its run animation, the tail should get a similar motion
butT i need animation ! D:
right now i really need a walking and running animation
and maybe an idle
tawdry lark
i dont have blender and if i wanna make animation i could directly in unity
butT
im not good at those
kindred igloo
Yeah that's fine
tawdry lark
especially here i need like a accurate xeno running animation to see if that motion works for the tail
idk who proposed to do those recently
should i go look for someone in #1210315682613436446 ?
kindred igloo
Wouldn't hurt
arctic void
yoo that's so cool!!! i think the model should be a lil smaller tho on account of its head clipping thru the doorframe XD
(unless it's canon and it just uses its acid to clip and the wall magically resurrects itself)
kindred igloo
It's probably going to hunch over for actual animation
arctic void
ah k
tawdry lark
yoo that's so cool!!! i think the model should be a lil smaller tho on account o...
yeah the animations will correct that
summer cloud
loving how detailed and high effort you're going with this
gonna be a very popular mod once it's out for sure
tawdry lark
loving how detailed and high effort you're going with this
thanks ;_;
kindred igloo
Mhm mhm mhm!
tawdry lark
owno
tawdry lark
i am trying to make something, but due to how zeekee made thing its harder than it should
so if anyone could show me how to patch something ill appreciate
talking about this bit in PlayerControllerB
private bool NearOtherPlayers(PlayerControllerB playerScript = null, float checkRadius = 10f)
{
if (playerScript == null)
{
playerScript = this;
}
base.gameObject.layer = 0;
bool result = Physics.CheckSphere(playerScript.transform.position, checkRadius, 8, QueryTriggerInteraction.Ignore);
base.gameObject.layer = 3;
return result;
}
whats wrong with it?
apart for the layer switch not making sens to me
tawdry lark
whats wrong with it?
well, that makes it impossible to change the player layer
cuse this shiat is gonna revert it
rapid tendon
ah but changing player layer can break other scripts in the game
you wanna be careful changing layers of things
but ye you could prefix patch it as a bool
oh wait
its a return function
tawdry lark
i just want to quiclky change a player layer to make him yeet through the floor
rapid tendon
ye but have you checked when that function even gets used by the game?
aka would it even be an issue
rapid tendon
did you add a delay before setting it back?
tawdry lark
i dont set it back
tawdry lark
talking about this bit in PlayerControllerB
```csharp
private bool NearOtherPlay...
i mean i would when im done, but this crap is not letting me
rapid tendon
aka im asking when you trigering you code to change back
you triggering it after the player stops falling?
tawdry lark
when my player enter a collider i change his layer and put it back once it exit it
tawdry lark
i just chcked when the base game uses that function
its all the time by what i witness
rapid tendon
well it triggers it all the time if the player isnt marked as in SpecialAnimation
num2 = (inSpecialInteractAnimation ? 0.06f : ((!NearOtherPlayers(this)) ? 0.24f : 0.1f));
tawdry lark
mh
rapid tendon
so you wouldnt need to patch if you mark the player to be in specialAnimation
tawdry lark
in special animation is used when being grabbed or something ?
rapid tendon
but if you still want to i can tell you how to do it
I think its used for bracken snap
not sure i could check
tawdry lark
like to see which option would be more likely to break stuff
rapid tendon
its used for RedMechAI to grab the player
same for ForestGiant
its used by 30 functions in the game
tawdry lark
my goal is to make the player fall through the floor like if there was a hole
rapid tendon
and 36 functions set it
tawdry lark
oof
rapid tendon
PlayerSpawn animation uses it too
so the solution seems to be just set the player to be in special animation before throwing them xD
tawdry lark
lets hope no other mod is having this attribute as a core thing
rapid tendon
[HarmonyPatch(typeof(PlayerControllerB), "NearOtherPlayers")]
public static class NearOtherPlayersPatch
{
static bool Prefix(PlayerControllerB __instance, ref bool __result, PlayerControllerB playerScript, float checkRadius)
{
// Your custom logic here i just reimplemented the orginal function to show how it would look
if (playerScript == null)
{
playerScript = __instance;
}
__instance.gameObject.layer = 0;
__result = Physics.CheckSphere(playerScript.transform.position, checkRadius, 8, QueryTriggerInteraction.Ignore);
__instance.gameObject.layer = 3;
// Return false to skip the original method
return false;
}
}```this is how you would patch it if you still want to do that
that patches it to do the exactly same thing like i said in the comment in there
only difference is where the return is set
which is __result
tawdry lark
and where should i put that
rapid tendon
in your own mod dll
as its a class it can go into a new class or just below everything in any class and its be treated as a new class
tawdry lark
nothing more to do, just add a script like this and boom ?
rapid tendon
well you need to Harmony patch initialise it still if you aint doing that already
tawdry lark
im not
rapid tendon
but like i said the better solution be the specialAnimation
tawdry lark
i dunno anything about patchin
rapid tendon
how does your mods awake() look like
the .dll one
as if you using a template it might already have it pre done
tawdry lark
the plugin script ?
rapid tendon
i guess ye
tawdry lark
private void Awake()
{
Logger = base.Logger;
Assets.PopulateAssets();
Xenomorph = Assets.XenoAssets.LoadAsset<EnemyType>("Xenomorph_EnemyType");
var tlTerminalNode = Assets.XenoAssets.LoadAsset<TerminalNode>("Xenomorph_TerminalNode");
var tlTerminalKeyword = Assets.XenoAssets.LoadAsset<TerminalKeyword>("Xenomorph_TerminalKeyword");
// Network Prefabs need to be registered first. See https://docs-multiplayer.unity3d.com/netcode/current/basics/object-spawning/
NetworkPrefabs.RegisterNetworkPrefab(Xenomorph.enemyPrefab);
RegisterEnemy(Xenomorph, 9999, LevelTypes.All, SpawnType.Default, tlTerminalNode, tlTerminalKeyword);
Logger.LogInfo($"Plugin {PluginInfo.PLUGIN_GUID} is loaded!");
// Required by https://github.com/EvaisaDev/UnityNetcodePatcher maybe?
var types = Assembly.GetExecutingAssembly().GetTypes();
foreach (var type in types)
{
var methods = type.GetMethods(BindingFlags.NonPublic | BindingFlags.Instance | BindingFlags.Static);
foreach (var method in methods)
{
var attributes = method.GetCustomAttributes(typeof(RuntimeInitializeOnLoadMethodAttribute), false);
if (attributes.Length > 0)
{
method.Invoke(null, null);
}
}
}
}
okay ye you would need to initalise Harmony in there
tawdry lark
and how is it done ?
rapid tendon
there multiple ways this is one
Just the Harmony var and the patch function is all you need
after that it will look for any Harmony patches in your mod
tawdry lark
alright thanks
rapid tendon
but you should try setting the specialAnimation and see if that works
rapid tendon
ye the __result only used if you want to affect a functions return value
tawdry lark
im cookin sum acid blood fun
rapid tendon
xD and what happens if there nothing below it?
tawdry lark
pepsi
rapid tendon
drinking some rn
rapid tendon
the game already has blood decals 😄
tawdry lark
so what, i just taint them green ?
rapid tendon
yep
tawdry lark
a
rapid tendon
make a copy taint
so base game can keep using the orginal and you use the modified copy for your alien 😄
you should be able to do all of that in code btw make a copy of it and taint it
tawdry lark
but you should try setting the specialAnimation and see if that works
well it doesn't lol
tawdry lark
@rapid tendon i patched the method to put back the previous layer instead and it works really well
i hesitated to rewrite it to use overlapshere instead of checksphere to remove the layer problem, but im unsure about performances
summer cloud
how often is it being called? overlapsphere really isnt that bad for end performance as long as youre not calling it every frame or something
and even then its probs not gonna be noticable unless youre on a super low spec machine or youre doing something truly heinous
rapid tendon
how often is it being called? overlapsphere really isnt that bad for end perform...
its every frame
well its not exactly every frame but based on this condition so pretty much every frame num2 = (inSpecialInteractAnimation ? 0.06f : ((!NearOtherPlayers(this)) ? 0.24f : 0.1f)); as it was in Update() or it was LateUpdate() dont remember now its base game thing
summer cloud
what are they trying to accomplish? reading up in the thread now but a physics check like that that often seems like something that'd be unnecessary in most cases
rapid tendon
what are they trying to accomplish? reading up in the thread now but a physics c...
they are not the ones running it base game is
and its switching layers constantly making his custom logic mess up
summer cloud
i hesitated to rewrite it to use overlapshere instead of checksphere to remove t...
hmm I read this as them planning to switch to overlap sphere to avoid the layer switching problem altogether, wasnt sure on the use case or how that would fix it exactly tho but was trusting their judgement
rapid tendon
hmm I read this as them planning to switch to overlap sphere to avoid the layer ...
I belive he trying to accomplish a throw style thing that ignores floor collisions to make players fall to floors below and so on
tawdry lark
xeno hurt -> xeno bleed acid -> acid do hole on floor -> stoopid player fall in hole
im changing the player's layer to the vain shrouds one which collide with pretty much nothing
effect is workin nice
hoping for no side effect
kindred igloo
I don't think burning a hole in the floor is gonna be viable ngl
tawdry lark
I don't think burning a hole in the floor is gonna be viable ngl
wdym viable ?
kindred igloo
like
lotta effort to make it work for a gameplay effect that might not even be that good in practice
tawdry lark
i needed a pause from the usual ai + i still miss animation to go on
and well its working
tho now i need qualified people to do :
- acid blood particle effect
- acid splash decals
- one gigachad shader guy to visualy fake the hole
i've looked for some shader tuto but i just dont have any base knowledge to follow them
and i believe LC is using HDRP... thingy... that is not making life easier
but yea its a fun lill gimmick i wanted to try my hand on
summer cloud
hmm I've done a hole simulation before for a ground slam ability in my personal project that causes the ground to split apart
I'll take a look at that and see if that could work similarly for your purposes
all it does is use an intersecting mesh on another mesh and says "hey dont render the part where they intersect"
tawdry lark
I'll take a look at that and see if that could work similarly for your purposes
to precise the imagined thing :
since we cant just do a hole on any mesh, we want to fake it so...
i thought of it like a 2 part prefab : 1 cylinder and 1 plane
the plane sit ontop of the cylinder and will be used as a window that will render the cylinder interior
bonus point if the effect works when a player is in the hole
if i really keep this idea of acid splash hole but cant have visualy fake hole, it'll probably be like a puddle that was deeper than you thought
summer cloud
you essentially just wanna create a window in the mesh then, which can be done by using the stencil buffer
tawdry lark
you essentially just wanna create a window in the mesh then, which can be done b...
anything that you think might look good for the gimmick
very first step is yes to not draw a part of a mesh
and then if possible add something else so we dont see the unity void
this is what it looks like right know
insert blood.jpg in your mind
summer cloud
ooo very nice, very smooth
tawdry lark
ooo very nice, very smooth
yea, definitly better than trying to teleport the player down
kindred igloo
shame it's not convenient to make like
a decal on the bottom
climb up with a ladder
summer cloud
with the stencil the hole should be visible both ways
kindred igloo
even if the drop goes down like 2 floors?
tawdry lark
ye just need to add logic to find if there is a floor below, if not then the hole will have a set depth
kindred igloo
acid blood boring its way down through 18 feet of reinforced concrete structure
summer cloud
even if the drop goes down like 2 floors?
yeah it just cuts out a part of the mesh and doesnt render it, so the hole will be there as long as you can see it
tawdry lark
even if the drop goes down like 2 floors?
if we want to make the hole dig more than one floor, i think we're just gonna put another hole instead of one long
kindred igloo
no no you misunderstand me
tawdry lark
if we want to make the hole dig more than one floor, i think we're just gonna pu...
goal of that is to be able to render a fake interior for the hole, but to not render it in the middle of a floor
well if we manage to make something with this, its noice
imma sleep... tomorrow mornin i will finally leave the clinic i am in since january
...to go to a specialised structure thing that is kinda the same but will help me more...
i am worried about the network quality over there tho, i really wish i will still be able to do my things
tawdry lark
oh yea that would work
rapid tendon
inside my room 4G speed
thats better 4G speeds than i get in my room
tawdry lark
thats better 4G speeds than i get in my room
butT at least you have wifi/cable
rapid tendon
butT at least you have wifi/cable
my room has no signals comming in xD
and my cable actually broke a few days ago and im lazy to fix it as its a 30m run
tawdry lark
how are you workin/playin then ?
rapid tendon
playing i get 5000+ ping as im grabbing wifi from the corridor by risking one of my devices on the floor for someone to hopefully not step on 🙂
tawdry lark
i cant even watch youtube in 144p ;_;
tawdry lark
i hope i get moved to the 2nd floor, they got acceptable ping there
summer cloud
oh jeez that sucks i'm sorry, yeah hopefully you can get moved or they can do something about it being so garbage
tawdry lark
;_;
tawdry lark
While i am stuck here, maybe some people could work on the animation and sound i need ?
sullen fox
Nice
tawdry lark
well
its still shit
butT !
if i share connection while my phone is literraly outside the window
now i need to find solution to protect it from weather and see if battery will hold
not including said phone cuse im taking the picture but u see
arctic void
what in the nine hells
tawdry lark
oh it is the bathroom window btw
kindred igloo
....is there lead in your paint?
Why would your phone need to be outside to connect?
tawdry lark
Why would your phone need to be outside to connect?
idk what is the building made of but heh, i got internet now
now i hope im not gonna forgor it there for a maid to accidentaly yeet it
rapid tendon
Why would your phone need to be outside to connect?
you know its a multi story building its same when you enter some stores how your signal goes bye bye
but alot of the major stores now relie on those signals for tracking stuff so they typically install internal transmiters that grab the signal from outside and spit it out inside
main reason is all the metal they use in walls and so on
kindred igloo
Fair nuff
rapid tendon
but ye for @tawdry lark i would recommend trying a signal booster
but then ye multiple people will benefit from it..
probs making the connection slower if more people connect
so probs a separate router that lets you accept an wifi connection and share it on a new SSID be good but idk if there is a commercial option for that
aka phones can do it but i mean something with better antennas for longer range
tawdry lark
but ye for <@177826384696049664> i would recommend trying a signal booster
butT im still hospitalised... kinda
tawdry lark
I made a post in mod collaboration to hopefully find peope to help get this to a publishable state
cedar leaf
butT im still hospitalised... kinda
I hope you'll get better! 
brave orchid
.
tawdry lark
If you did it on a github
sullen fox
Smh
tawdry lark
ok fixed
i tried using animations
i dunno what the hell i touched that messed up the whole thang
tawdry lark
im starting to think ill need to make this a paid job to have animations x_x
tawdry lark
I would offer to do it if I had more freetime
Skibidi hippity hoppity hot
Free time you have now alot
tawdry lark
damn
tawdry lark
guess imma go again with ugly ass placeholder animation made my me
hard hemlock
i have a blender export ready for the xeno model ripped from alien isolation 😄
hey guys sorry to pop out of nowhere, im just new here and recently had the urge to create a xenomorph mod
cool to know lotta people are into porting the xenomorph into LC as well 😄
hard hemlock
this is so cool!
cedar leaf
That looks kinda fire how high the vert counts on that bad boi tho?
hard hemlock
gonna have to check once im home 😁
my idea is different from the alien isolation xenomorph though, idk if it sounds too extra or what but
im assuming very high given its a direct rip from alien iso 🤣
kindred igloo
my idea is different from the alien isolation xenomorph though, idk if it sounds...
What's your idea for how a xeno would work in LC?
hard hemlock
sorry for the info dump but its gonna be like this
kindred igloo
You're not allowed to apologize if I'm asking you directly for it
That's not how that works
hard hemlock
Xenomorph Mod
first stage - landmine esque xenomorph egg
spawns a facehugger upon explosion (spawns 1 but very rare 2-4) (oobworld egg thingy style)
second stage - jumps on players and functions like a snare flea latch into player (oobworld spider + snare flea)
infects a player then dies after 5 - 20 seconds
third stage - player dies and a chestburster spawns and runs away (bracken scared ai)
fourth stage - transforms into a xenomorph and functions like a bracken, also clings to ceiling like a snare flea. scared by shotgun shots and can die from multiple shots and will priority players who has a shotgun, when shot will drop an acid blood entity (damages), and attacks like in alien isolation (mimic inspired code maybe)
hard hemlock
You're not allowed to apologize if I'm asking you directly for it
thank you, its an unhealthy habit i understand
any thoughts? like i know it sounds like a lot of mumbo jumbo but gave much thought about how it keeps the lethal company monster design
kindred igloo
Seems to make sense to me
Would fully grown xenomorphs not be able to spawn naturally in this case then?
hard hemlock
Would fully grown xenomorphs not be able to spawn naturally in this case then?
very rare versus eggs which can be very common
kindred igloo
Gotcha
hard hemlock
i think the random infection counter where the facehugger dies can create tension, having no idea whether the facehugger died from a shovel slap or successfully infected a player 😁
at least through the eggs system, xenos can be present whether on low tier moon via eggs or on high tier/eclipse moon
i think oobworld mod has this purple egg thingy plus spiders which do exactly what those facehuggers should do
kindred igloo
I'm glad the general agreement is that the xeno would be a stealth killer
hard hemlock
I'm glad the general agreement is that the xeno would be a stealth killer
riight? as should be. super excited to even contribute just a little for the community
hmmm should we try ripping the dead by daylight xeno model?
kindred igloo
Well so
cedar leaf
kindred igloo
Any high poly model is gonna look kinda ass in LC so while, yes it'd be cool to have a primo model like that, we'd also wanna intentionally butcher the quality of it
cedar leaf
I really should start working on an alien moon (and potentially an interior too later)
hard hemlock
this anwser while being obvious is problematic
will the egg system fix it? since the counter is to just not get close and activate the eggs or shovel slap the facehuggers while theyre on ur face
kindred igloo
If either Isolation or DbD have low LOD versions of those models, that would be perfect
hard hemlock
Any high poly model is gonna look kinda ass in LC so while, *yes* it'd be cool t...
ill try to intentionally butcher the quality, and aside that i have another model in mind... half life 1 avp mod drone model
kindred igloo
That might end up too low quality? Idk how good it is
hard hemlock
either that or ill try to low polify the alien iso model when i get home
hard hemlock
I really should start working on an alien moon (and potentially an interior too ...
omg imagine a sevastapol moon
hard hemlock
That might end up *too* low quality? Idk how good it is
ill give it a check later
cedar leaf
omg imagine a sevastapol moon
It is on my to-do list anyway :p
kindred igloo
ill give it a check later
I was referring to the half life 1 version btw
Idk what it looks like
hard hemlock
yeah ill send the half life 1 version later then try to low polify the alien iso model
or maybe to make it easier, just pixelify the textures
hard hemlock
It is on my to-do list anyway :p
exciting! what else is on ur to do list?
cedar leaf
exciting! what else is on ur to do list?
Im gonna drop new content soon, but main focus is going to shift towards learning interiors. I think I pretty much know every in-and-outs about making moons. You can try out Seichi for reference until I finish the rest of them. 😛
But I’ll be putting out more moons later on too that are still on my to-do list
hard hemlock
Seichi?
cedar leaf
Seichi?
Japanese themed moon with a bunch of unique features if I can pat my own shoulders a bit 
hard hemlock
ohhh! sounds sick! ill save it for later
cedar leaf
Can you send me the blender file of that Xeno btw, I’d like to check out some stuff about it on sunday (thats when Im back at my pc)
hard hemlock
sure! gonna send that later plus a bunch of other stuff as well
cedar leaf
Lovely!
kindred igloo
or maybe to make it easier, just pixelify the textures
nah nah nah lowering the poly is also gonna help, trust
cedar leaf
Vert count is something that is more important. If its to high res of a mesh its gonna tank performance
kindred igloo
mhm
tawdry lark
wha is happenin over here
@hard hemlock we need to discuss the ideas, but youre hired cuse of that motivation
hard hemlock
<@224697617370710026> we need to discuss the ideas, but youre hired cuse of that...
gee! thank you! i appreciate it
and sure! im up for discussion anytime! my work can be flexible sometimes i can be very busy, sometimes very free. just let me know what needs discussed 😁
tawdry lark
and sure! im up for discussion anytime! my work can be flexible sometimes i can ...
first, do you have skills that may be usefull for the production of the mod ?
hard hemlock
well i have simple knowledge about modelling and animating in blender, willing to learn other fields outside my expertise though
tawdry lark
well i have simple knowledge about modelling and animating in blender, willing t...
well i am in deep need of animations
so even if they are not amazing the'll do for the development time
hard hemlock
also i do audio mixing too! tried doing a chestburster death sfx
tawdry lark
i do need sound too yea, and on that subject you are free to give sounds idea for eventual feature that i didn't do
hard hemlock
well i am in deep need of animations
ill do my best to provide, no promise it'll be fast though, is it okay?
hard hemlock
i do need sound too yea, and on that subject you are free to give sounds idea fo...
since we're doing alien, any thoughts about using the alien isolation model + animation instead?
as a placeholder maybe?
tawdry lark
ill do my best to provide, no promise it'll be fast though, is it okay?
no worries
tawdry lark
since we're doing alien, any thoughts about using the alien isolation model + an...
well i am already using a model, and alien isolation one is probably too much for LC
hard hemlock
well i am already using a model, and alien isolation one is probably too much fo...
how about the hl1 avp mod alien?
hard hemlock
im assuming ill only be animating the hip and up since the legs and tail are done ingame?
legs with the walking, tail with the physics
right?
tawdry lark
im assuming ill only be animating the hip and up since the legs and tail are don...
you have to animate everything except the tail
legs system should work along animation
and head will be overriden when needed
also no root motion unless specified
tawdry lark
will try a set of animations
would love a moving one mate
tawdry lark
no u
tawdry lark
that foockin thumper came to annoy me when i test the xeno vent kill
tawdry lark
@umbral pike Any update mate ?
umbral pike
Currently doing the retopology but I won't be home for the next week so can't do anything more.
tawdry lark
Guys i am getting sick of networking stuff
even tho now i think i understand how its done
i mean the process to translate what i have done to work with rpc is so confusing, i am affraid to broke what is working
and its also very annoying to test
sullen fox
Eventually you'll get so good at it you never need to test it (what I've done for my last couple entities)
But you'd need to have written your code with rpcs to begin with for that unfortunately
Just keep in mind u can't do a serverrpc inside a serverrpc and a clientrpc inside a clientrpc
Which is why u can't do clientrpc's inside, let's say, HitEnemy, you have to do a serverrpc that calls said clientrpc
Or just have all the local code there since everyone runs hitenemy already
tawdry lark
what id love right know is a private session with someone to help me translate some of the stuff so maybe i get the hang of it
and yeah should had done this since the beginning but i was so terrified by it back then
summer cloud
break down what you know you need to sync and what you don't, often you'll find after thinking about it you don't need to sync some things you thought you might, and you'll save yourself more work and confusion in advance
tawdry lark
@sullen fox @summer cloud what do i use if i need the server to know which player requested a server rpc ?
sullen fox
Just add a parameter
tawdry lark
yes but what kind
sullen fox
For players index in the startofround.instance.allplayerscripts areay
Array
Feed it the players index
tawdry lark
and how do i check what is the local player index ?
sullen fox
and how do i check what is the local player index ?
You can do Array.IndexOf(array, localPlayer)
And that returns the integer index
tawdry lark
alright ill test that
tawdry lark
im making very tiny baby steps with network
i started rewriting from scratch
1 method at a time
kindred igloo
🫡
tawdry lark
@umbral pike I summon thee
tawdry lark
@sullen fox your right im getting better at it
had a hard time "translating" some code cuse it cant be done the same in multiplayer
sullen fox
Mhm
Eventually you get so good you don't need to test multiplayer
My latest thing, shockwave gal, is completely networked and I didnt need to test anything, it only broke once because I accidently made a server check when instantiating an object that the client didn't know about
summer cloud
yeah its a lot scarier sounding than it actually is
the only thing that catches me out now is calling my RPC in a base game method chain that end up being called from a RPC without me realising/checking whilst I sit there wondering why my RPC call isnt working
tawdry lark
well im back to the point where i need animations
and it looks like my frend has dieded
brave orchid
using [this one](https://www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-models/character/sci-fi-charac...
i thought we were using troodon's model
tawdry lark
i thought we were using troodon's model
he has a model available ? also troodoo said hes busy
brave orchid
Ok
tawdry lark
Xeno is almost in a publishable v0.1 state programming wise
only need is the animations and some sounds
kindred igloo
Oh swag
tawdry lark
only need is the animations and some sounds
which i have none
tawdry lark
oh
tawdry lark
using [this one](https://www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-models/character/sci-fi-charac...
its this
tawdry lark
never had an official one
quartz canopy
Also could you dm the animations id need to do?
tawdry lark
i might have someone but im unsure about his disponibilities
tawdry lark
if he is its with another model anyway so for this one your good
tawdry lark
ill pm you that
brave orchid
how close are we to it being ready?
tawdry lark
how close are we to it being ready?
didn't touched the project since last time because i cant go forward without anims
brave orchid
Why does it keep removing this from my chats
tawdry lark
idk if @umbral pike is still intrested in the project, he didn't answered my pm
nvm he dont have time for this, so still looking for someone to do it
brave orchid
are you following?
yes
clever parrot
hows it going?
quartz canopy
nvm he dont have time for this, so still looking for someone to do it
send me the anims i need to do
tawdry lark
send me the anims i need to do
you have the model and all ?
tawdry lark
Isnt it the one above?
it is, we might have to see if the hiearchy is right tho, cuse i changed and renamed some stuff
tawdry lark
i cant export it from unity tho
quartz canopy
Its all good
brave orchid
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tawdry lark
yeye still alive
royal girder
Why does it keep removing this from my chats
If nothing happens in the thread for awhile it archives for a bit until someone says something in the thread, that’s why some people say random stuff to keep posts alive
royal girder
Ye ye
And I have zero idea on how to disable it
Prob an admin thing I’m gonna be honest
brave orchid
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cedar leaf
drowsy mulch
Hi, how is this Mod going?
quartz canopy
I was gonna do some anims for it but havent gotten back to the project
cedar leaf
I was gonna do some anims for it but havent gotten back to the project
I hope you’ll do cuz iirc thats what the project needs only for Foxynn to be able to work
quartz canopy
I know, i been busy in terms of uni work
I just need to change some of the bone higherarchies first which takes ages
Ill have a crack at it this weekend
cedar leaf
I know, i been busy in terms of uni work
Completely understandable, life comes first as always ^^
brave orchid
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tawdry lark
since i'm kinda done with https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1300938706852642932 and that @quartz canopy proposed to do some animation, i should be able to work on this again soon™️
spark stirrup
the motion tracker mod would honestly pair so well with this
severe river
how is the mods progress going?
severe river
thats awesome, i cant wait
junior fable
spark stirrup
cant wait to make lethal isolation a thing
junior fable
quartz canopy
Very well we are almost at release
severe river
give us a sneak peak pretty please 🥺
cedar leaf
no sneaks , no peaks 
tawdry lark
well
there is nothing new to show since when i paused this project to work on the cabinet
im waiting the release of that last one to proceed
tawdry lark
owno u didn't
junior fable
severe river
😥