Siren Head

[elder stag]

Every person I met doesn’t have a green tint lol

That is quite literally one of the features of openbodycams lmao

How it’s not green

[ornate atlas]

When it sees you it should jump back into the walking animation

[smoky canopy]

Bet

Any way to make him not spawn over water

Not sure if this is for u to address or the moon creator

[empty wigeon]

@ornate atlas he can just walk in?

[steel badge]

ooo

where did you get these windows from?

[timid mica]

"Ship Windows"

[empty wigeon]

yea

[steel badge]

merci

[ornate atlas]

It's one of the only bugs. I didn't make the hitbox big enough

[empty wigeon]

[silent hearth]

the thumbnail for the mod literally shows that it’s green 😭

[empty wigeon]

it can be not green

although by default I think it is

[elder stag]

by default it wasnt for me

[elder stag]

and?

[empty wigeon]

this has no tint

[silent hearth]

So by default it’s green

[elder stag]

for me its default at what you replied to me and there was no tint

[elder stag]

for me it wasnt

[silent hearth]

Idk how then 😭

[empty wigeon]

it is

[elder stag]

I downloaded the mod on multiple different profiles, never has it been green for me once

[empty wigeon]

his game is just built different

[silent hearth]

Fr

[empty wigeon]

anyways

if you want no tint

just set all the emissive color stuff to 0

[silent hearth]

I might try that tbh

I’ve never been a fan of the green tint that the camera mods have

But I get it cuz the external cam is green as well

[empty wigeon]

well I think they were just trying to match the other cams

yea

I THINK this may be peak ship design

dont ask why I have the lights off

[elder stag]

get cozylights with the lights off

then its peak

[silent hearth]

I should get the ship windows mod

[empty wigeon]

you should

[silent hearth]

I’m trying to be careful with what mods I add now since I’ve hit 150

[empty wigeon]

I have also hit that number

[elder stag]

im hoping I dont reach that number

im at about 100

I want to lower my modlist

but its hard

[smoky belfry]

i hit 200

[hybrid iron]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-suit-meme-man-wearing-suit-meme-suit-slideshow-sparkles-and-champagne-gif-26378137

[empty wigeon]

wtf

[hybrid iron]

modpack runs at 60 fps minimum

so like

why not

i have like 75 moon mods

[wet hollow]

I think my pack is about 135 at the moment, totally levelling out right now though, not seeing many new mods to add

[hybrid iron]

im trying to get to 150 to overcome my sadness of #1202192412227928065 being too op

i need 5 more

decent mods

i got 3 hours of sleep, the rest were used brainstorming mods

[smoky belfry]

my old modpack was almost 300

[wet hollow]

399 scrap items 😭😭

[hybrid iron]

yes. i got 652 from one trip to experimentation with 4 scrap items

op af

[wet hollow]

I'm very picky with scrap mods, love immersive scrap but too many times I've got a scrap mod just for the scrap to have the most obnoxiously loud sounds attached

[hybrid iron]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-cat-filing-nail-getting-ready-bring-it-on-im-listening-gif-17677371

[silent hearth]

also mod author just confirmed it’s green. Your game must be on crack or something lol

[solemn shoal]

ccode

what sounds does he have currently

in the current version

?

?

[hybrid iron]

he will have the classics soon

if thats what your worried about

[swift cipher]

I see a fellow overkill modder 😎 🤝

I peaked at like 281 and then did some cleaning up with mods doing the same thing as others

I got 0 new moons tho

[ornate atlas]

Walking sounds and a spot sound.

[hybrid iron]

Woohoo! i have something in a mod now!

[elder stag]

well all of u are wrong

[silent hearth]

Ah yes the person who made the mod is wrong about their own mod

[hybrid iron]

"oh shit bruh, i just realized i forgot that i didnt add a green hue, that i edited the thumbnail so it was green, and told everyone it was green. shit bruh"

[empty wigeon]

oopsie daisies!

[ornate atlas]

Guys can we stay on topic this is kinda getting out of hand.

I use that mod for normal runs of the game and It's green unless changed in the config.

[elder stag]

grrbel

[hybrid iron]

yes please. sound the sirens

📢

[empty wigeon]

@ornate atlas he stepped on a mine (thanks to hazardsoutside) and he decided to walk upside down

[hybrid iron]

LMAO

[ornate atlas]

That's odd 🤣

[austere parcel]

If he steps on another mine does he go back to normal? Or does the mine also have to be upside down?

[half onyx]

real

[empty wigeon]

wowie

[ornate atlas]

Fear level is working now

I'ma publish that

[lethal aurora]

Hey @ornate atlas I’m having this bug as well last night

[smoky belfry]

would be cool if siren head had a running animation!

[smoky canopy]

Is there a siren sound coming or just the ominous kinda sound he makes now

[steel badge]

Based

[fringe crest]

siren head chases you down now?

and gameplay wise... does he feel similar to a giant?

[wet hollow]

Sirenhead walks on water 🤔

[smoky belfry]

i don't think so

[smoky canopy]

He infact does, but I think that's a map problem, had him floating on the lake at bozoros, along with a giant

[devout folio]

Beehives also float on the lake of Bozoros so yeah

[ornate atlas]

He has mimic mode that will be used later

[echo kernel]

1 - sirenhead just yoinked me out of the ship and just made me float in air, i couldnt turn or anything.
2 - the game didn't load in the next map when i pulled the lever
3 - couldn't leave the game with esc so i had to alt+f4

[ornate atlas]

There will be other sounds that he makes.

[elder stag]

siren head doesent spawn on any moons for me

Im using AC to icrease their spawnrates

even at 500 daytime spawn he doesent spawn

[ornate atlas]

He's registered as a vanilla entity so maybe that has something to do with that?

[elder stag]

im not sure

[steel badge]

which mod adds all these monitors?

[lethal aurora]

GeneralImprovements

[steel badge]

thanks!

[fiery elk]

Awaiting the day when I can have this guy a config that lets him spawn in other places.

[merry comet]

siren head just killed all our crew going through it with the ship when we were leaving 😦

[lethal aurora]

yea it's a bug that we're all facing right now. And I think @ornate atlas is working on it to fix that hitbox

[merry comet]

ooooh ok ok o:

[ornate atlas]

Yup, should be fixed very soon

[topaz drum]

"Sirenhead yoinked me out of the ship" Well... does it say in the logs that sirenhead can't get you in the ship like the giant can't? xD

Is Sirenhead appeased by Loud Ship Horn?

[ornate atlas]

No, he does not react to sound.

[ornate atlas]

It is a bug though so I'ma fix it

[half onyx]

siren head should make this sound when he sees you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvFZjo5PgG0

[ornate atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/whyy-noooo-cat-gif-26020991

\j

[hybrid iron]

https://tenor.com/view/start-running-start-running-heart-start-running-scp-scp-run-run-scp-gif-612418607818209727

4

f*cking

pixels

[devout folio]

So how does tree mode Siren Head function?

[uncut kelp]

it hides like a tree

[devout folio]

Does it move after you touch it or something

Because I did see the Siren Head mimicking a tree and I got close to it but nothing happened

[uncut kelp]

its probably just buggy rn

[solemn shoal]

is there a config for siren head spawn chance he spawns super rarely

and when is the lure update? so he lures with a broadcast and he stands still and waits for the player

[tired topaz]

currently he can only spawn on vow I think

I also wish we can tweak the spawrate for all moons that have giant spawns, or at least let us choose what moon he can spawn in

[neon swift]

What's the current state of Siren Head? What's in? What's missing?

[ornate atlas]

Only missing feature rn is the broadcast luring. Mimicking trees and chasing work and most of the sounds are done.

[hybrid iron]

oooh really? which ones

sounds

[timber moth]

Great mod! Quick question: does config sync from host?

[ornate atlas]

Yes it should.

[timber moth]

Cool thanks

[ornate atlas]

Testing is going well

lol

oof I screenshotted my screenshot. How did I do that

[empty wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/siren-head-gif-26690253

[twilit dust]

hyped to see peoples reaction when they hear the ice cream theme even tho they never bought anything or the ship horn while inside
or just faintly hearing his noises from inside (if still planed)

[steel badge]

https://tenor.com/view/siren-head-gangnam-style-woop-gif-18640279

hell yeah

one question, how exactly does his hiding-as-a-tree thingy work? yesterday I played a match on vow where he spawned but I noticed him pretty quickly due to his footstep sounds

thought he was a forest giant at first

[ornate atlas]

Currently, it's only enabled if you enable it in the config. Next release will randomize if he enters that state

[steel badge]

okay

so if its not allowed if I understand correctly he instantly roams the map after spawning?

[ornate atlas]

Yes

[smoky canopy]

when are more sounds coming

[torpid elm]

Just let them cook

[ornate atlas]

Soon, I was working stuff out with the netcode. It's mostly fixed now.

[smoky canopy]

Can't wait, keep up the good work fam

[wet hollow]

Patiently waiting to surprise my friends by adding this and locker to our next session

[ornate atlas]

Lol

[ornate atlas]

Just updated to make the state random. If this doesn't work reset the host's config.

Also this fixes a few problems with networking so that he won't desync animations

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Ccode_lang/SirenHead/

just so people know the newest version is 0.9.5

[neon swift]

Was this about released version by the way, or overall progress?

[ornate atlas]

This is about released features.

[tidal egret]

[sturdy creek]

lol

[ornate atlas]

Lol.

[fringe crest]

bro was not letting you slide past him

[ornate atlas]

i'm working on getting walkie sounds to work just to scare people.

[fringe crest]

Nice!!

[fringe crest]

I was thinking, would giving siren head Mirage support be difficult? All that’s needed (theoretically) is to add a filter on top of the audio and make it be able to be heard from further away

[ornate atlas]

I could do that. Rn I'm focusing on getting the main features working though

Got it working. I am aware that the walkie is off I'm fixing that

[ornate atlas]

This happens on a random timer just so everyone knows

Also I'm uploading this now.

There is one small drawback to the walkie system though. Turning the walkie off will not make the sound stop till it finishes. but that's also how monster sounds are for walkies so I'm not too worried.

Also yay 1.0 finally. Only thing I'm working on at this point is adding more randomized audio.

thunderstore is throwing a fit one sec

nvm I'm going to have to upload this in the morning. Thunderstore isn't processing requests right now for some reason

[empty atlas]

I have a friend that died to a giant this way

[smoky belfry]

oh thats creepy

[steel badge]

awesome

can't wait for more trevor henderson entities in lethal company 👽

[loud bloom]

What is the code name for the creature

I want to buff the spawn rate but it doesn’t have the name siren head in game

Also what moons does it spawn on

[ornate atlas]

The name I have it under is "Siren Head"

[ornate atlas]

Vow currently

[steel badge]

Only vow?

Can I change that in the config?

[lilac hornet]

🔥👀

[ornate atlas]

not yet but I believe some mods can chance the spawn chances.

I just tested and LethalQuantities seems to work.
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/BananaPuncher714/LethalQuantities/

Choosing the moons will be a feature though just so everyone knows

[steel badge]

okay thanks

speaking of custom spawn moons

I assume you don't know how to sync more than one moon like "DineLevel" and "AssuranceLevel" through the config either?

because I'm currently trying to do that but couldn't figure that out so far :p

[ornate atlas]

It should be pretty easy. I just haven't messed around with it yet.

[steel badge]

Okay

[lilac hornet]

Is the Siren Head eating animation by dotflare in the 1.0 release?

[solemn shoal]

ccode there will be classic siren head sounds too_

right

the classics

pls

its important

[ornate atlas]

Yes, that's what I'm workong on next after the spawn config release.

[ornate atlas]

Yes, it has been in since the first 0.7 release

[solemn shoal]

nice, would be sick if the siren head could roar in the distancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohm-a2gXAIg u can hear the roaring in here

it sounds like that

its creepy

and maybe he would have an roaring animation

too

[neon swift]

Aren't those already in?

[solemn shoal]

i dont think so

[ornate atlas]

I think the animations are final at this point and I think that we don't need a roaring sound for far away since rn it hides until you get close.

But original sounds are probably going to be used for alert sounds.

[solemn shoal]

the sound in that vid that i sent in here those are important

the first sound

will that be added also??

PLEASE

ADD

PLSSSSSSSS

the first siren

its the classic

btw

if ya didnt know

and its not an alert

idk what u mean by that but

[ornate atlas]

Yes, spinmaster made a filtered version of it so it will sound correct in the game.

[solemn shoal]

yay lets say im far away does it sound quieter

i hope so

[ornate atlas]

Rn it only plays siren sounds when it finds a player

[ornate atlas]

Yes

[solemn shoal]

pls add this

hear me out

if the ship door is open the siren head can grab the player his hand will come through the opened door

and grab you

it would stick his hand

to the ship interior

with an animation

[ornate atlas]

Once again, animations are final rn.

[lilac hornet]

Gotcha! Just wondering cause I had a few issues such as my friend and I being grabbed at the same time while I was under the ship and he was inside

[ornate atlas]

Hmm, that's weird I have yet to see that happen. I'll see what I can do to fix that.

[ornate atlas]

Also on the levels thing I found out that LethalLib defines the level types as a flag type enum so using | to add the enums together makes a compound level type.

[steel badge]

okay, thanks

[ornate atlas]

Or it looks like one of the overloads uses a dictionary

[ornate atlas]

Totally development at it's best. Idk how to define this without defining each individual thing though. Also this is WIP and doesn't include everything I just thought it was funny

[steel badge]

all good

thank you, yeah ive searched for how some mods do this in general but so far wasnt lucky yet

[ornate atlas]

The config is working but I'm gonna test it some just to see if it works.

[ornate atlas]

The config should be released and it should work on both Vow and March now by default

[gritty blaze]

R2mod manager still hasn't registered the update yet 😭

[tiny raft]

go to settings > all > refresh online mod list

got it now

[gritty blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-10567033442484308038

[umbral wadi]

idk if someone already posted this

https://youtu.be/kZsOU4qA5QM?si=c2xSbQSr3fkYSM47

[hybrid iron]

yo peoples. just want to let you know that im trying to spend more time on things other than my computer, i will still be here to make sounds (which is the reason im just saying) yeh whatever, im excited

[hybrid iron]

i have top comment on that video 💀

@ornate atlas i havent tested it yet, so i was wondering if the walkie sounds are all the google drive sounds and wont be used by the physical creature. or if its just some of the radioish sounds. or maybe just that one walkie sound... maybe i should go test lol.

[open loom]

is there a way to make it spawn on all moons with out putting in the name of every moon?

[ornate atlas]

It's just the one walkie sound rn but the next update I'm going to work on more diverse sounds. There is only one sound for each action rn

[ornate atlas]

Not yet but I could add that very easily in a quick patch

so I'll do that

[open loom]

ok

:]

[ornate atlas]

Uploading that patch now.

[open loom]

yipeeee

[smoky canopy]

If mirage support comes can you make it so he only plays back death screams from people he's killed

[ornate atlas]

I just looked at the mirage page and technically it should work rn. I might be missing something though

[tiny raft]

this works ye?

[ornate atlas]

Yup

[tiny raft]

didnt get to see it once 💔

[ornate atlas]

Can you send me the log to see if it's working?

Also make sure your on the newest version because the version before the newest does not have the all option.

[solemn shoal]

so does he have an idle animation, because he should stand still and wait for the player when luring?

[ornate atlas]

He does but it is not used. Instead the tree is used rn

[solemn shoal]

it is used?

there are two modes standard and tree

in config??

so its not in standard? why and it should

???????????

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Why

but why is it not used

bc there is a standard mode in config

[solemn shoal]

waht

what

how about the standard mode

there is two in config tree and standard

[raven fulcrum]

There's a config for him now?

based

[solemn shoal]

hey

when will u add the feature that when siren head is walking and its close the screen starts shaking a little?

that would be an amazing feature btw!!

[ornate atlas]

Dk if that's possible with the game setup

[ornate atlas]

Standard just wanders and looks for the player currently. The idle is not planned to be added just yet if ever.

[lethal aurora]

congrats man

[neon swift]

Mirage has an option to enable its functionality for all modded entities, but you can't pick and choose which ones.

[solemn shoal]

why?

if it lures it should

idle

and wait for the player

like what?

[ornate atlas]

It does not lure yet. And it probably won't.

Also please drop it, every time you find one thing about this mod that isn't to your liking you send 50 messages and ping me at least 3 times over it. It's starting to get annoying.

[solemn shoal]

okay jeez that would have been a cool feature and i think many agree

JEEZ

okay fine i stop talking about that

[solemn shoal]

u agree too?

that luring would be greatr

t

great

and sorry ccode

[neon swift]

🤦

[steel badge]

you see, adding in new stuff is not always easy

[neon swift]

I think everyone agrees that every mod being perfect, bug free and having every feature possible (especially when it comes to integrating something that already exists with perfect parity) is great. Doesn't matter who or how many people agree though, it still has to be made for free. If you want it so much, pay for it or make it yourself. Otherwise just be grateful for what you have and be patient fro what's to come. Please stop annoying people before they get staff involved. That is not a threat, it literally happened before with a person who constantly kept asking modders to add stuff.

[steel badge]

theres figuring out how to add stuff, testing if it works in singleplayer, testing in multiplayer, bugfixing, testing again, repeat x100

plus yeah time plays a huge role

[steel badge]

ofc there is great potential for new siren head mechanics but honestly, as it is right now, I am really happy with a bug-free and fun siren head mod

[neon swift]

Damn, that must feel good for everyone who worked on adding him to LC.

[eager mesa]

Brotha got noticed

I used to be obsessed with siren head before it got over saturated

Looking forward to trying this mod

[steel badge]

heh

real

"Siren head x sonic x pomni x baldi in BACKROOMS hiding from GRANNY and playing SQUID GAME with skibidi toilet at 3 am"

[eager mesa]

https://show-more.itch.io/siren-head-resurrection
This went pretty hard iirc

Was one of my favs

[steel badge]

yeah, I mean siren head does have potential

same with backrooms you know

theres this game

"The complex found footage" and I think "The complex: expedition" which really gets across this original backrooms-atmosphere

there are always a few gems

but eventually every popular topic gets turned into 3 am skibidi challenges I guess :P

[solemn shoal]

??

is this real trevor henderson

[shrewd ivy]

yep

[solemn shoal]

thats amazing

and i chose the model btw

🙂

not kidding

this aint cap

[eager mesa]

Ok

[solemn shoal]

cool

[torpid elm]

wow, thats awesome

I'm sure if i hadn't posted that idea thread someone else would've come along and thought of siren head in lethal company sooner or later

but still, its wild to think how far that suggestion has come

massive thanks @ornate atlas for making this a reality

[ornate atlas]

Np, I just thought that it would be a fun idea.

[drifting comet]

is that me, or radio transmit volume destroying my ears?

i mean sound from walkie when siren head is present on the map

it's deafening

[ornate atlas]

I've had some others say that, I'm turning it down in the next release.

[neon swift]

Is the sound supposed to play even when walkie is off?

[ornate atlas]

If you turn the walkie off while it is playing it will finish playing. There is no real way to stop it

[hybrid iron]

you know. i was so excited to check my pings, see what was up. this. this is not the type of ping that i want. thats just plain annoying

[fringe crest]

Cool features do not come out of thin air,

[tired zenith]

I saw in Grims vid Sirenhead can enter into the ship, is that a current bug?

(Also congrats on people putting the mod in videos!)

[hybrid iron]

yes

[fringe crest]

And please keep the tone respectful. The modder is doing this on his own time, and asking “why aren’t you adding this in” (especially when doing so repeatedly) is simply not something that should be asked as people often either do not know how to, or just do not want it enough to bother learning with it. As time is a resource, people can choose how they spend it themselves.

I’m actually a fan of your suggestions (I like making my own suggestions too), but you should NEVER push a developer into doing them. That’s just plain wrong.

.
Since this is a place where people of all ages can join, stuff like this happens, but please keep a certain level of maturity! ❤️

[hybrid iron]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-respect-mission-passed-video-game-mission-complete-gif-17882011

[ornate atlas]

Yea I saw that vid. I'm currently fixing that

[ornate atlas]

With the 1.1.4 version both the loud audio walkie and walking through the ship have been patched. If he walks through the ship tell me because he shouldn't anymore.

Also it's still uploading so just one sec

This should be an easter egg audio

[hybrid iron]

agree

[hybrid iron]

revamped it just incase

ooh new uperdater

@ornate atlas im going to send you the possible secret audio so its actually secret 🤫

[upper nebula]

me and my friend were playing with 1.1.4, I think Siren either walked in the ship and grabbed my friend, or grabbed her from the corner outside

seemingly is able to grab/walk in the ship still :(

[tired topaz]

I didn't have this problem when using him yesterday, very strange

[upper nebula]

i just checked to make sure i updated too and yeah, idk why she was grabbed but

[fathom charm]

He's blasting off! :3

Haha, what's going on! >_<

[smoky canopy]

can i put all here? @ornate atlas

[solemn shoal]

ok

[hybrid iron]

yo i saw you had the gieger counter, im strill trying to figure out wtf that even does

[smoky canopy]

Leads you to apperatus

[fathom charm]

When you're getting closer to the apparatus it'll the pointer will go more towards the middle and right. If you're not it'll stay in the middle. It's an item from FacilityMeltdown.

[hybrid iron]

Ooooooh

i cant type

[ornate atlas]

Apparently there is a incompatibility with the rocket launcher 🤣

[ornate atlas]

Yes

[odd void]

siren head'ing off to space

[empty wigeon]

uh actually I think its just explosions

thats basically the same thing that happened to me when he was upside down after stepping on a mine

[lofty bison]

Hi, dunno if this was already asked by someone (i didn`t find anything about it using the Search function), or if it is already in, but could you please add the three note oddity to the sounds?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LhYpBW-Mu0

[ornate atlas]

Yea ig that's true. I'll have to look into it

[hybrid iron]

i made my own version of that

its a combination of that

and some other melody i heard once

thats really familiar but i cant quite remember what its from

[lofty bison]

cool!

[solemn shoal]

yo

that idea

is

good!!

[solemn shoal]

thats nice but maybe high pitched would be a little better

but thats good

[hybrid iron]

@solemn shoal i also hope you read this message

[solemn shoal]

im sorry it was just an suggestion

[hybrid iron]

thats not the point of the message

[solemn shoal]

ik

ok i get it now

sorry

[neon swift]

Sounds nothing like three note oddity tbh.

[hybrid iron]

i said i made my own version. i still think the original would be cool too. but it cant really be unique if its just the same thing

also the 3 note oddity sounds like the first 3 notes of lavender town

which is cool

[neon swift]

You also said it was a "combination of that" with something else.

[hybrid iron]

yes

its the same type of tone with a different melody

[neon swift]

Just saying that what you made and TNO aren't really related IMO.

That melody is something else. Don't know the name.

[solemn shoal]

i agree

[hybrid iron]

@ornate atlas i made some new walkie sounds with some HAUNTING messages

some of these make fire beats though on god

[ornate atlas]

Oooh, those all sound so good!

I'ma figure out what they say later lol

[hybrid iron]

none of them are jokes, i was tempted to put like "one time, i stepped on a land mine, and it SPUN ME RIGHT ROUND BABY RIGHT ROUND" but i didnt

[ornate atlas]

That would be hilarious just as a development reference.

[hybrid iron]

you know..thats true. ima make a few funny ones, like 2

[hybrid iron]

ok, i made these 2

you can hear something in the back of 11

[ornate atlas]

Lol I hear it.

[neon swift]

This was probably already asked, but thread search moment. Anyway, does adding custom moons to Siren Head's config work, or do I need to go through LLL's config?

[ornate atlas]

right now you would have to go through a different config. I'm probably going to work on this later to make it work though

[hybrid iron]

did you ever get to figuring out what they say, because now i dont even remember 💀. i know what they say, but not which ones say what, except for 11 and 12

[ornate atlas]

They were too fast for the direct translators I tried but I could probably hand translate them with an audio visualizer.

idk if the timing is right because what I got out of it is this. this is only a few letters of what I got but still doesn't look right

actually nvm there is a E at the begining

this is audio 11 so I'ma guess it was Explosion for the first word?

lemme retry and see if I get that this time

[ornate atlas]

I'm assuming this because of the 9 character count?

[ornate atlas]

figured out the problem. My audio editor put a gap in the O after the L so yes it is explosion. I'ma just figure this out silently now.

[hybrid iron]

its odd that they were too fast, because i didnt speed them up at all after generating them, i just changed the pitch

[ornate atlas]

also the n and one of the Os have an extra . on the front when you listen to them

[hybrid iron]

ok maybe i shouldnt change the pitch. let me try this again lol

i remember all the things, so yeh

it appears that my translater is using more than just the dots and lines

or actually

the / seperates each word

nevermind

[ornate atlas]

Yea I figured out the weirdness that made it untranslatable the encoder your using sometimes puts a .. instead of a - which makes lots of stuff not work

but that's also only at the beginning of a letter so it's easy to know hen that happens

[hybrid iron]

i made a "few"

these should be translatable

some of them are pretty fast.

the one guy in the team who understands morse code:

[ornate atlas]

lol

I think I got it down for translating the others. 11 and 12 are both funny.

[hybrid iron]

should i change the morse code translater so its better, or should we just put the issues with it in the description of the mod if you add them

[ornate atlas]

The new ones look perfect in an audio editor. Also if they slow it down they should be able to translate it by sound only. I'm not really worried at this point

[hybrid iron]

THE MOD GOT FEATURED IN A MITHZAN VIDEO

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-woooo-yeah-baby-gif-24480925

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Miqzr5itG4

@ornate atlas im pretty sure this mod is going somewhat viral

[ornate atlas]

Yea, we're almost at the 200,000 download mark also.

I'm working on getting the random sound system working rn

[hybrid iron]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1ti-ka-l-penguinz0-charlie-reddit-gold-excited-gif-18542260

X2

[fossil mango]

Hey

Soooo I wanna report something that happened to Mithzan

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxPH-LT-PCXD36lUY8pKOzclXSeMYRlfQq?si=YCqWo8ohymFAdk_b

[eager mesa]

Siren head was walking sideways for me

[steel badge]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-rave-dancing-dancing-crab-gif-16543314

[eager mesa]

like at a 45 degree angle

[ornate atlas]

Yea, I need to handle that better should only kill one at a time.

[ornate atlas]

Hmm, that's weird

[eager mesa]

Kevin Hart

[ornate atlas]

I got the random audio working finally

but I need to update the assetbundle and then we will have random audio

[hybrid iron]

WOOHOO! just making sure you still have the link to the drive.

[ornate atlas]

Yup I do.

[eager mesa]

mr siren

[hybrid iron]

@ornate atlas 🤭

im so excited for the sound update

[ornate atlas]

Lol

[hybrid iron]

bro just completely ignored my last message. 🤦‍♂️

[gritty radish]

No screenshots on the mod page or description of what the monster actually does?

[hybrid iron]

thats true, but for now development is more important i feel like. i could probably write a short description sometime soon though

its basically a giant, but cooler. with walkie talkie interference, and tree mimicking

[empty wigeon]

currently

its just a giant

that makes noises

lots of noises

[hybrid iron]

and tree

actually

no im lying

[empty wigeon]

erm

[hybrid iron]

every tree is normal

[empty wigeon]

a giant is also a tree

kinda

[hybrid iron]

no

[empty wigeon]

so really

[hybrid iron]

every tree is normal

[empty wigeon]

every tree is normal

[hybrid iron]

none of them are siren head being a contortionist, thats false info spread by government lizard people

[eager mesa]

only time I saw siren head he was walking at a like 30 degree tilt

[empty wigeon]

peak

[eager mesa]

didnt really do much do to being to far

[empty wigeon]

i know when he uh

is affected by an explosion

he kinda goes crazy

[eager mesa]

it was 8pm
we were 100 under qouta
2 players left
1 was bringing hopefully enough scrap
2? giants a dog baboon hawk siren head on stormy march coming from a far fire exit

shit kept striking the objects over and over again

[hybrid iron]

thatll do it

[eager mesa]

got doube teamed by the dog and giant had to drop something
but turns out it didnt matter literally was the EXACT number for qouta (they still went and got the extra item because why not) \

was nuts

doesnt sound real but It is LMAO

I was just laughing watching siren head walk funny like I mentioned

[empty wigeon]

yeah

when he gets exploded

by anything

he just starts rotating in random ways

i dont know why

[eager mesa]

ah probably lightning strike then

also in terms of moons other than the defaults I personally have him on these modded

[ornate atlas]

💀

[ornate atlas]

Modded moons don't work rn in that config. You need to set it up in a different config for modded moons.

[ornate atlas]

Can you give me the link to the video? I'll tell them it was you.

[eager mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cam-cat-glare-stupid-idiot-gif-12343508348826719727

[thorny heath]

Not sure if these are known issues because I'm too lazy to scroll up, but

• the siren head can grab you through the ship
• the siren head kills you even if you get teleported out of its hand

[ornate atlas]

Yes these are both known. The teleport one is being fixed soon

[ebon dune]

So in the config you can specify which moons he spawns on, if I put "All" like other modded enemy's will he spawn on every moon?

[hybrid iron]

https://youtu.be/_Miqzr5itG4

[ornate atlas]

Yes

[wide prawn]

Which config is it that we're supposed to use to get Siren Head on modded moons?

[ornate atlas]

You need another mod that configures moon support currently

I got the assetbundle updated and am doing some testing to see if the sounds sync.

[hybrid iron]

https://tenor.com/view/chime-colourbass-dubstep-jamming-dance-gif-25599593

[wide prawn]

Ok, thanks. I guess I'll just stick to vanilla moons for now. This sounds too complicated for me, haha.

[wet hollow]

I use LethalQuantities, bit intimidating to wrap your head around at first but I like it for tweaking things for custom moons

[ornate atlas]

New release is out with the new sounds. Using this with older versions of the game will cause audio problems and possibly crashes.

[elder stag]

V50 is out?

[neon swift]

No.

[hybrid iron]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[ornate atlas]

I'm talking about version of this mod. If a client has the wrong version installed it might not work well.

[hybrid iron]

@ornate atlas is the (not edited discord message) in?

[ornate atlas]

Not yet.

[hybrid iron]

epic

[steel badge]

[solemn shoal]

Suggestion: can you make it so that u can see sirenheads steps on the ground when the siren head walks, the footprint would have depth and be shaped like siren heads foot, there would be a config to turn this on and off, and a config when the footprints would dissapear

[neon swift]

Do vanilla outside entities have footprints? I don't recall.

[solemn shoal]

nope but there would be an config, just an idea

[neon swift]

I just don't see why Siren Head should have them if nobody else does. Would make sense to add them to vanilla entities first, as a separate mod even. And later add modded entities support to it. Then again, even player only has footprints on snowy planets.

[hybrid iron]

yeh

footprints should be its own mod

not part of this

[neon swift]

Would be nice to have as a separate mod. Sand on sandy planets. Mud on regular planets during rain.

[lofty bison]

I just got killed by siren head who went inside of the ship. Is this a bug or intended?

[eager mesa]

bug

[ornate atlas]

Newest version? It should be fixed

[solemn shoal]

Suggestion: can u make a new ability for siren head, he can break the ship with realistic breaking physics, might not be possible yet but someday? and ofc there would be fire and smoke i guess if the siren head breaks the ship and another suggestion too: the siren head can grab the ship when its flying so then the player is in a deadly trap, he would then pull the ship down and ye

prob not possible yet, but maybe in the future

?

[ornate atlas]

Not probably going to be possible at all. That would take A LOT of work

[solemn shoal]

these both would be a deadly trap

maybe in a year? like u cant never know

but okay

[solemn shoal]

i believe that

i would go through pain if i would do that

bc well my coding skills are at 0 level

but amazing mod!!

[solemn shoal]

suggestion, there would be a very low chance, that the siren head could grab his hand through the fire exit if the player opens it and then eat the player? how does that sound, maybe only if he is close to the fire exit, because it would look weird if someone sees the siren head teleport

and there would a siren head roar sound maybe, because the sound would scare the player

inspired by mimic mod

and i guess this wouldnt be so hard to make for you maybe idk

what u think of this idea? i think its neat

[ornate atlas]

This would be hard to pull off in a manner that makes sense. I'd have to do some weird crap with the doors.

[lunar cliff]

So I just had this wonderful experience carrying a conductive item while modpack testing. Siren Head was camping the door, we got struck by lightning, then he began spinning erratically 360 degrees with me still in his hand. X.X I didn't think I could get sick from Lethal Company but hey... life finds a way

[fathom charm]

i would like to report some... interesting bugs? :O

[solemn shoal]

but new attack moves would be sick, it would give it more variety so, like 70% chance to the eating thing to happen and 30% to other attack moves happen like slam the player with his foot, or grab him and throw the player into the ground/smash him

it would give variation

i think this is a W idea, and i love the eating thing but variation would be sick

Suggestion: new attacks (1. attack: the siren head would have a 30% chance to do this attack than the eating mechanism, the siren head in this attack would grab the player and slam him into the ground or into the wall with force, the player would have a 55% chance to not die and be on low health, and a 45% chance to die instantly from it. 2. attack: the siren head would slam his heavy foot on the player, this would kill the player with an 100% chance, it would take like 5 seconds before the siren head's foot is slammed into the ground because he is heavy and he cant do it that quickly, so it also seems realistic. I might have more attack ideas too, so the eating thing would have a 65% chance of happening and the slam with the feet would have a 10% chance of happening and the smash attack (1.) would have a 25% chance of happening.

Dotflare and ccode what yall think of this idea?

i think my idea is pretty neat and the chances would also be configurable

[solemn shoal]

nah

chatgpt

lol

is chatgpt enough smart for coding

bc i could try to make entity mod with it

[fossil mango]

Why though

[ornate atlas]

Yea, for some reason explosions hate him. I'm trying to figure it out.

[ornate atlas]

Dang he shouldn't be able to go in the ship now. The others are that he's confused because of the terrain. The ship entering will be fixed I've been trying to fix that for a long time

[ornate atlas]

You could try but you will still need coding experience to compile it...

And you need to know how to use unity for an assetbundle

I pushed a quick fix right now that should fix him going in the ship. I just removed the ship as a walkable area for him in his AI which I probably should have done before.

[native hill]

hello

is it possbile to make him unscannable?

[half onyx]

hell no he barely can make a mario clone

[fathom charm]

Definitely not. It's a good place to ask advice on how to learn things in order in terms of subjects from beginner to advanced
It's also a nice thing to ask for examples to have an idea on how you want to code or provide code you couldn't come up with.
There're enough tutorials on YouTube to get you started too! ^^

[eager mesa]

no

[torpid elm]

agreed

It's a useful tool but it'd be extremely painful trying to get it to do a full project

Easier to just understand and make the code yourself, and use it for repetitive / already planned out things

[fathom charm]

The only problem here, are you ready and motivated to take up a few hours of your time to learn lol.
Trust me, it's harder than it sounds like... 😂

[fathom charm]

Nice! Should be a good temporarily solution! :)

[ornate atlas]

I could push a separate assetbundle if you want that.

[native hill]

idk what that is but if you can get it to work that would great

[half onyx]

a few hours..

also you should make it if you scan him in tree mode he is agroed

[ornate atlas]

That's a good idea

[native hill]

that's why I didn't want scan to work because its too obvious, but this is definitely another solution

[fathom charm]

A few hours EVERY day! :3

[hybrid iron]

@ornate atlas hold up, you never told me you made a subnautica mod :D (you wouldnt need to because thats literally so invalid in every conversation ive had with you, you probably dont even know i like that game) but im assuming you made the speed module mod

[ornate atlas]

Yup, I still need to finish the crafting recipe though lol

[hybrid iron]

lol. i saw that while searching for cc2 and i had a hold up waitaminute moment

[true tusk]

sorry if this is a recurring question, can't search for words within this thread

will the sirenhead appear on any moon if i change its Level value to All?

[open loom]

yes

[true tusk]

ty

[open loom]

np

[lunar cliff]

Regarding Siren head's tree form, are there any plans to give him proximity activation of a kind instead of LoS? I often find myself just walking by him without him activating because he's frozen looking in another direction.

[native hill]

Agreed its easy. Another thing I think would be cool do add are tree variants that look very similar or exactly like Siren Head in his tree form. Especially since atm he is very easy to spot and avoid

[ornate atlas]

I could do that pretty easily.

[ornate atlas]

Not sure how to do this atm but maybe

[native hill]

I believe some trees are generated like the boulders

[fiery elk]

@ornate atlas
Can confirm I was eaten by siren head in the ship running your newest update.

lies 😛

[fathom charm]

Oh well.. :3

[solemn shoal]

it would be a good feature if the siren head could grab the player because then it would be more scary and challenging, like if the player is in the ship and if the door is opened

if he could reach the player

he can only pick the player when he can reach him

that would be cool

with an custom animation ofc

he would reach his hand through the opened ship door

[eager mesa]

He isn’t meant to go in the ship in the first place

[ornate atlas]

Now he's just clipping the whole ship instead of the roof. This might take a while to fix lol

[fathom charm]

xD

[torn goblet]

You may be able to implement the same stuff that @terse bay did to keep their Giants out of and away from the ship

That is if Xu doesn't mind helping you fix the issue 😅

[terse bay]

lol, idrc, its not a complex change either, you just have to mess with navmesh settings in unity

[terse bay]

area mask is where your enemy cant go, i blocked it off from going to the playerShip, in certain scenarios it still will, but it will heavily go against choosing to go to playerShip unless specifically following a path by you to go there

then go agent type, agent settings

and press area

these are my settings

just set the playerShip to something high

@ornate atlas

[ornate atlas]

Omg, thanks so much I'll have to do this later

[terse bay]

The settings are compatible with forest giant movements so you should try to follow these values lol

[torn goblet]

I mean it already looks like the Siren Head moves around similarly to a Forest Giant

[ornate atlas]

These changes are implemented now. It should work now.

[ornate atlas]

Also thanks for the help!

[terse bay]

All good, good luck :p

Just as a precaution I removed my enemies abilities to detect the target if they're in x range of the ship lol (x being configurable)

[torn goblet]

Had a funny bug where we had a Siren Head spawn stuck in a tree on Vow lol

[ornate atlas]

Yea, it causes a funny bug on my side also because it can't route to the player.

[terse bay]

You can remove the route using IsInHangarShip player property

My problem is that my giant sometimes slides across the ground after grabbing something

No idea why

[ornate atlas]

Yea, ik I was planning on fixing that today.

[ornate atlas]

I solve this by setting the agent speed to 0 and then resetting it back to it's normal value when the animation is done.

[terse bay]

Hmm the thing is it's not using its navmesh to move

It's like its being pushed

[ornate atlas]

Hmm, that's weird

[terse bay]

Yeah cuz the speeds already 0

[twilit dust]

Just a random thought, could the game think that the giant is till on the ground after being grabbed

So the giant could still be walking around technically, pushing redwood?

[terse bay]

No and no, the pushing is insanely fast

I've considered that it's the colliders but i disable those

So dunno

[ornate atlas]

Just an update on development. I'm working on fixing some bugs that have been found then I'm going to put some easter eggs for you guys

[half onyx]

cool

[terse bay]

https://clips.twitch.tv/AveragePrettiestLampDuDudu-4TJO7S2ZWI_RWKaw this clip shows the problem pretty well at the start

although it was this problem that actually give him a fright and a good show 😂

[torn goblet]

Mago showing face cam? ;o

[terse bay]

Ye

[torn goblet]

When did he start doing that? He was a PNGTuber lol

[ornate atlas]

Just fixed a few bugs that I was aware of and made his AI make more sense. Even if you are behind him in tree mode now he will be able to detect you at a certain distance.

[near nest]

i noticed he gets stuck walking in place a lot, like this for an example

terrible video lol but you know what i mean

[torn goblet]

What moon even is this?

[near nest]

Experimentation

its happened on a few moons that i have noticed

if i get around to it, I will do some better videos

[open loom]

will there be support for the drop ship sound siren head makes to change if a mod changes the sound maid by the normal drop ship?

[ornate atlas]

Yea, it's an AI problem. He doesn't know how to navigate to you on the ship or in the Air so he just walks in place. Might fix it eventually.

[ornate atlas]

No

[open loom]

ok ty

[smoky belfry]

was wondering if config shovel can be edited mid game or not

[terse bay]

Out of curiousity, how did you stop the AI from trying to navigate into the ship, or is that just a thing that normally happens, it can try and bugs out because it obv doesn't fit

[ornate atlas]

Honestly I did exactly what you said and after some testing found that that happened. I assumed it was normal but apparently not

Ig I also changed the size of the agent to fit better but I don't know if that has anything to do with it.

[solemn shoal]

heyy

do you think that i will get a lot of views if i do a youtube video of this mod

and good mod btw

[terse bay]

Prob that, I kept mine to the forest giant sizes

Which did mean that it moves around into places ut shouldn't but I never had any stuck issues

Ig I should increase the width w bit

[ornate atlas]

I don't know. Depends on how popular your channel is. I'm not going to stop you though

[lilac hornet]

possible

[torn goblet]

@ornate atlas Is there anyway to adjust the spawn weights for making SirenHead spawn on custom moons, he doesn't seem to wanna spawn on custom moons

[ornate atlas]

You can with other mods. I've seen multiple but I've only got lethalquantities to work

[torn goblet]

I'd love to be able to have weights be configurable in the actual config for the mod though, @terse bay would Ccode be able to use your code for that?

[terse bay]

He can but I don't imagine his code is vanilla exclusive?

[torn goblet]

I mean the way it's set up right now is the mod doesn't have adjustable spawn weights, you can only add moons SirenHead can spawn on but on Eve and Sector-0 SirenHead refused to spawn

I'll try changing it to just be Modded and see if it works ig

[terse bay]

You sure you had the right internal name?

[torn goblet]

Yes

[terse bay]

Just to be sure, what did you have

[torn goblet]

Your giant spawned fine

Just Siren Head wouldn't.

[terse bay]

My giant has a Modded@weight section so it'll always find somewhere to spawn in any moon

[torn goblet]

Before this was set as Vow;March;Eve;Sector-0 which are all the right names.

Could honestly just be a problem with how the config works

It also doesn't have adjustable weights

[terse bay]

What's the moon's name in thunderstore? I'll check rq

[torn goblet]

Which could also be the problem

[torn goblet]

I know the internal names are right because interiors setup properly for it

😆

[torn goblet]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/RosiePies/Rosies_Moons/

[terse bay]

Does sirenheads config work elsewhere than March and vow?

[torn goblet]

I've seen people get him to spawn on Experimentation and Assurance but idk if they use the config from the mod

[terse bay]

@ornate atlas please make an actual config

I just read your plugin.cs 😭

[torn goblet]

Help them out with it ^^

[terse bay]

I can, I just need a reply when they're not busy lol

[torn goblet]

^^

[terse bay]

anyway for now you cant do modded moons, you can do VanillaWhatever;All

[torn goblet]

Lame

Hopefully an update comes soon

[ornate atlas]

The library is set up weird. Idk if it manages modded moons and I haven't done much research into it. Sorry for the bad code.

[torn goblet]

You're fine Xu is willing to help you set up a proper config ❤️

[terse bay]

its nothing insanely bad, you just havent actually made a config folder lol, usually thats what people do instead of including it in plugins

that and the SolveLevels function, you can just see how i do it here:
https://github.com/XuuXiao/GiantSpecimens/blob/main/Plugin/src/Plugin.cs
From lines 129 to 164

does remind me, i should make that a function lol

[ornate atlas]

Yea I just used DnSpy on LethalLib because their documentation is bad. I didn't see that they had a custom dictionary input overload. Also the enum parse function was a great idea that you used in your code. I think I can write a better config now using what I've seen.

Thanks so much for helping so much.

[terse bay]

:p

[craggy lodge]

question whats all the current mechanics from the enemy

its just the sounds when chasing and it pretending to be a tree ye?

[topaz drum]

Would be funny if the Mirage/skinwalkers mod(s) would be applied to Siren Head with a surreal distortions and loudness, and even more freaky if it only copied voices of dead players.

[terse bay]

prolly would have to be something on mirage's side lol

@umbral wadi get to work

[umbral wadi]

hmm i think it'd be better if siren head implemented the distortions and whatnot instead, although if the goal is to only copy dead players, i would have to add support for it from my end

[topaz drum]

The latter could be a really nice feature.
Distortions would be nice I also have an idea for snare-flea-style-muffled player voice clips for Door Mimics. Making mimics both a bit easier if you have time to wait around and a bit more confusing and intriguing.

[radiant sonnet]

lol you haven’t tried it before have you

[torn goblet]

@ornate atlas Is the update with the new config coming soon?

[terse bay]

I overhauled how my mod registers enemies, scrap and shop items completely (using methods to make it pretty and efficient), config logic is still the same, feel free to copy it @ornate atlas

[umbral wadi]

perhaps ill add even the filters from mirage's side, but i probably wont be touching this stuff until v2 is done

[ornate atlas]

Yes, I have a testing version done rn.

[torn goblet]

Let's goooo ^^

[ornate atlas]

Thanks for the help, I never would have figured that out.

[torn goblet]

Can't wait to make Siren Head spawn on Eve, Solace, and Derelict Zone

[ornate atlas]

I completely redid the solve levels function and now for some reason it doesn't spawn on modded moons if I set it in the config despite getting the registered message in the log with no errors before or after. I'm testing with infernis because it works in your mod. I'm using "InfernisLevel" in the config. P.S. if you want to check my code it's in the config-overhaul branch

[torn goblet]

Just Infernis should also work btw, adding Level to moon names is optional and I started removing it from my configs after the Office mishap I had with Eve 😆

[ornate atlas]

I tried that to at one point. idk what I did wrong

[torn goblet]

Are you also applying the weight?

ie:Infernis@150 or something like that?

[ornate atlas]

yes

[torn goblet]

Hmmmm

Well a way that should get him to spawn guaranteed would be setting weight to 99999

[ornate atlas]

Lemme try that quick. He's not showing up in the spawnable list on that planet though either for gamemaster

[torn goblet]

That's really strange, I wonder if it's a small line of code or something that's missing compared to Xu's lol

[ornate atlas]

Probably lemme check again

I don't see what I did different. I'll try and figure this out tomorrow.

[terse bay]

Sorry, I slept a bit

The problem here is that over the next week or two

Infernis etc will hop onto LLL

So I switched my method

That's guaranteed to work

To one that works when u have LLL in your pack

Because LLL changes the names to something more friendly to use

46 Infernis is what you would need to put iirc

It's a couple commits back that I changed it when I overhauled my configs

[ornate atlas]

I have LLL installed though. Ig I'll test with the number though

And adding the number didn't seem to do anything

[torn goblet]

Do LLL moons like Solace or Eve work?

[ornate atlas]

Haven't tried yet and I'm probably going to go to sleep soon so at this point I'm just going to try tomorrow.

[terse bay]

Uhh yeah try tmrw

If you've committed I can check your github

Also to mess with my enemy I use devtools or the dev essentials modpack, def the best option

Config overhaul, almost missed that message

[ornate atlas]

Yea sorry It kinda got buried.

[terse bay]

You've changed a few minor things here and there in the code itself, I would recommend just having a copy of purely the exact same system except changing any @ into : and any , into ;

Like the way you so your foreach and before that is slightly different, it could be the problem, I'm not too sure since I can't see the problem immediately myself

Ugh I just remembered, I havent regenerated my config in a while so this might not even be working for me, I'll have to test that (tho pretty sure it does)

[ornate atlas]

Also I just confirmed that using your version of the parsing function doesn't work either. It seems to be a problem with the enemy register function

[terse bay]

are you using the latest LL?

cuz for me, everything works just fine

[ornate atlas]

Yes 1.15.0

Also maybe it's a thing with LLL loading after my mod

Because LL can't interface with it

[terse bay]

no thats supposed to happen iirc

[ornate atlas]

hmm weird

[terse bay]

            foreach (string entry in configMoonRarity.Split(',').Select(s => s.Trim())) {
                string[] entryParts = entry.Split('@');

                if (entryParts.Length != 2)
                {
                    continue;
                }

                string name = entryParts[0];
                int spawnrate;

                if (!int.TryParse(entryParts[1], out spawnrate))
                {
                    continue;
                }

                if (Enum.TryParse<LevelTypes>(name, true, out LevelTypes levelType))
                {
                    spawnRateByLevelType[levelType] = spawnrate;
                    Plugin.Logger.LogInfo($"Registered spawn rate for level type {levelType} to {spawnrate}");
                }
                else
                {
                    spawnRateByCustomLevelType[name] = spawnrate;
                    Plugin.Logger.LogInfo($"Registered spawn rate for custom level type {name} to {spawnrate}");
                }
            }

can you try this one for partsing

parsing

your function is slightly different, just wanna see if its something to do with this

you can change the @ and , though

[ornate atlas]

I did this already

[terse bay]

hmm

[ornate atlas]

I copied it from your mod to see if it worked

idk

I'll try disabling my devtool mods to see if that's interfering

[terse bay]

i also use devtools, this is a pretty weird problem

send the logs as well just os i can cross reference

idk if it matters but my function's also private

                if (Enum.TryParse<LevelTypes>(levelDef[0], true, out LevelTypes levelType))
                {
                    spawnRateByLevelType[levelType] = spawnrate;
                    Logger.LogInfo($"Registered spawn rate for level type {levelType} to {spawnrate}");
                }
                else
                {
                    spawnRateByCustomLevelType[levelDef[0]] = spawnrate;
                    Logger.LogInfo($"Registered spawn rate for custom level type {levelDef[0]} to {spawnrate}");
                }
``` this line of code is different with the `levelDef[0]` where i just use `name` in its place

[ornate atlas]

Same, it's not specifically set to that though

[terse bay]

does it set the rarity for vanilla moons?

[ornate atlas]

Yea you set the name to that value earlier though

[ornate atlas]

Yes

It works fine for vanilla but not custom

[terse bay]

ig ill try cloning and seeing if i can get it to work

do you know what version of C# you're using?

[ornate atlas]

.net fremork 4.7.2 is what I use because it worked for subnautica modding which is how I learned C#

[torn goblet]

Isn't it recommended to use like .net 8 atm? that could be why there's issues but not sure, 4.7.2 is really old ;o

@terse bay would know more about this than me

[terse bay]

https://lethal.wiki/dev/initial-setup

try installing the things on here if u havent already

[ornate atlas]

But the framework and SDK are different so 4.8 was release a year ago for the framework

[torn goblet]

Ahhhh

[ornate atlas]

I'ma migrate to .net 7 and see if that helps

Apparently there is an app made by microsoft just for this purpose

apperently unity uses .net core 2.0 and .net 7.0 is cursed.

Their versioning is weird

nvm it's just fussy 7.0 works

I'm test this in just a sec

[ornate atlas]

Now netcode patcher crashes

[ornate atlas]

Something with my postbuild is weird now but I should be able to get it working manually now

Nvm It's just throwing an IO exception on the plugin DLL itself.

Weird as heck

[ornate atlas]

Lemme see what version of .net lethallib uses

ok good to know

[ornate atlas]

Something odd is that netcode patcher only suports .net framework. I'm to the conclusion that .net framework is the only version that works

So it's not a problem with the library

It's just being weird

So at this point by every tutorial I've seen this project is set up correctly so idk why it doesn't spawn on custom still

I'ma try a LLL map later

[outer cave]

I can confirm that on the current version the Siren Head does spawn on LLL maps. You just have no control over it in the config

[solemn shoal]

for siren head? if yeah then a forest would be sick a realistic one

[ornate atlas]

I'm talking about a newer update that's still in dev that gives more control.

[ornate atlas]

It works rn if you use "All"

[ornate atlas]

For the new update that I'm going to release rn there is a new config so make sure to regenerate it. There is a problem the LLL that makes LE moons not work for spawning for some reason but LLL moons work fine

Now people should be able to put a list of moons in the config in the format used in the config

LE moons excluded for some reason

But you can set spawns in the LE config also so it's not that big of a deal

[half onyx]

does this work with new version?

[outer cave]

Bruh it's been out for not even an hour

[half onyx]

It could just work out the box potentially

idk

im testing some mods right now and they work

[outer cave]

It seems like a lot of things are compatible

[half onyx]

ikr

[outer cave]

This might be a big ask but is there any way we could have seperate level configs for each AI? I feel like some maps would be better with the tree AI than the standard

[outer cave]

I also seem to be having issues with getting the Siren Head to spawn on LLL moons, do I need the word Level after each moon name? Like AquatisLevel ?

[outer cave]

It seems like the config isn't working at all, I've tried all variations on Titan:300 TitanLevel:300 and it won't spawn

[torn goblet]

try 99999

[outer cave]

I'll try that

[outer cave]

Took forever to get Titan with an eclipse but TitanLevel:99999 doesn't seem to work :/

Sadly nothing

[terse bay]

i think its vow and march exclusive from the last time i looked at the code lol

[outer cave]

Yeah that would break the config XD

[torn goblet]

It was updated though

[terse bay]

maybe

[torn goblet]

@outer cave

[outer cave]

I did that first thing when I updated

started with a fresh one

the defaults were VowLevel:100MarchLevel:100

It's also so painful that it's not a comma separated list 🙃

[ornate atlas]

You shouldn't it just worked for me

[ornate atlas]

That should work

[ornate atlas]

It should work other places I've seen it work

[ornate atlas]

It should be semicolon separated. That's why it's not working. I'll fix that in a bit.

[ornate atlas]

It should be compatible from what I can tell

[ornate atlas]

until then just add a semicolon between

sorry abt that

[chrome geyser]

Can you just put "All" in the config or do you have to manually add each moon and its spawn weights?

[half onyx]

Yes it works

[ornate atlas]

all with a spawn weight works

[ornate atlas]

nvm it's semicolon by default in the newest version. Please regenerate

[chrome geyser]

So All;100 ?

[ornate atlas]

It seems that using v50 nothing spawns when using lethallib because the patch isn't compatible. so this mod is waiting up on an update to another mod to work on the beta branch

[ornate atlas]

Yes

[chrome geyser]

Thank you 👍

[outer cave]

I'll try that out, thanks so much😁

[chrome geyser]

Dosen't seem to work for me not sure why

Tried march eclipsed and some other vanilla planets a few times dosen't seem to spawn

[outer cave]

@ornate atlas Not gonna lie I'm a bit confused, is it a semicolon separated list? Or is is a semicolon instead of a colon like MarchLevel;100

The regenerated one has them separated by semicolons

[ornate atlas]

This one is correct

[outer cave]

The vanilla moons need Level after their names like TitanLevel:100 and it needs to be a semicolon separated list MarchLevel:100;TitanLevel:100.

LLL moons don't tho

Finally got it all working in testing

Orion:100 works

Out of curiosity, how does the tree AI work?

doesn't seem like it goes back to a tree after you wake it up which is sad

[chrome geyser]

ohhh I was putting MarchLevel;100; no wonder

only a semicolon for seperating moons

[lunar cliff]

If set to tree it'll spawn as a tree 100% of the time then wake up once disturbed. It won't go back to being a tree and walks around.

If set to Standard it'll spawn as a normal enemy and walk around.

If set to random it'll either spawn as standard or tree

[outer cave]

I'm more disappointed that it doesn't go back to a tree when I loses/after it eats a player

[lunar cliff]

Understandable. I personally prefer them just walking around tho.

I tried spawning in 3 around Gloom with their AI set to tree but activated none of em

Tree AI seems to be weird-ish and sort of unreliable, could just be me tho

[outer cave]

Yeah it did seem a little janky in my small amount of testing

[ornate atlas]

Yea, sorry that's probably confusing

[ornate atlas]

Just an update on development. I'm waiting on the lethalib developers to fix their roundmanager patch that makes this mod not work on v50

[elder stag]

Is it confirmed that the dev is working on a fix?

[ornate atlas]

Nope but they have to or a whole lot of enemy mods won't work anymore.

I could write my own system probably but lethallib makes the custom spawning work because the level loader is written in it

But all levels are missing spawns now with lethallib

[elder stag]

I believe batby is working on a fix

He is going to integrate ll with lll

Making it lllll

[ornate atlas]

that might work but lethal lib already has plans to add a level api. Things are gonna get more complicated soon lol

[terse bay]

they do not

i think

[ornate atlas]

I thought I read something about that somewhere, I probably misread though

[torn goblet]

Lmao @ornate atlas poor Siren Head in V50

He's beyond broken

@terse bay I wanna guess this is related to the same thing that breaks your Redwood on V50 probs, the removal of the LOS code

[empty wigeon]

what's visibly broken in that image?

[torn goblet]

Look at him

LOL

[empty wigeon]

isnt that his tree pose

i dont really remember what it looks like

but he is disfigured

[terse bay]

Prolly is

[ornate atlas]

That's a feature that's been there lol

Did Lethallib get fixed? lmme check

[ornate atlas]

How did you spawn it. I'm just a little bit curious

[ornate atlas]

It seems like the new update might have fixed it maybe but I'm going to have to do more testing

[terse bay]

You'll have to replace the current function you use to check for line of sight

Personally I just copy pasted the one in v50 and just renamed it and used it in my code so it's both v50 compatible and v49

[ornate atlas]

Yea, that's a good idea, might do that.

[torn goblet]

Did you push the update Xu? It was funny watching your big boy just stand there all lost lol

He'd just stand there looking back and forth

XD

[terse bay]

hmm i guess i can post the update with v50 compatibility, ill post it later tonight, depending on if i get done with adding the animations or not for the new giant

[torn goblet]

Okiiii

[torn goblet]

Okay yeah I can confirm Siren head does work but he just walks in place cus he needs the new code lol

Honestly the Tree spawn I never saw before

So it was weird lmao

[outer cave]

Tree is kinda cool, only starts chasing you when you get real close. Got me once or twice in fog lol

I just wish it went back to the tree AI after it lost the player, it just roams after chasing someone sadly

[ornate atlas]

Are the spawns working again? Just wondering cuz last time I checked it was broken.

[torn goblet]

Yeah they spawn with the new LL update cus it fixes V50 compat

But walk in place cus the LOS code was removed as Xu said

[ornate atlas]

I'll fix that later today. (Why would LOS be removed that makes no sense 😭)

[torn goblet]

Idk I think Zeekerss rewrote the code, since @terse bay said there's new code instead and the new code works with both V50 and V49

[terse bay]

no clue buddy, he added a parameter and decided the name needed changing 💀

which technically is true

cuz the new parameter allows you to make "eyes" in dynamic places

[ornate atlas]

That's helpful, but idk why he would need to rename it.

It doesn't really matter at this point though so whatever

[terse bay]

yeah you'll have to either use a different method name depending on what game version, or just make a v50 only compatible version, or just copy paste the method onto your code

[torn goblet]

I think the Shockwave Drone is completely busted in V50 btw

It doesn't even spawn in

[terse bay]

no github for that, cant help wont help

[torn goblet]

Yeah

I think it has a thread in the server though

[elder stag]

is this working fine witht he new LL update, or was that screenshot just the tree pose?

[elder stag]

do u have any mods to spawn in enemies?

[ornate atlas]

That was the tree pose, the AI has a problem though that I'm working on rn

[elder stag]

bet

[ornate atlas]

v50 compatability now complete

[elder stag]

bet is the update out yet?

On ts

[ornate atlas]

Yes 1.4.3

[torn goblet]

@terse bay Now we need GiantSpecimens update

🥺

[terse bay]

Maybe in like 4 hours, I won't be on pc for a bit

[torn goblet]

Okay ^^ as long as I can test out the update tomorrow I'm happy lol

[terse bay]

Though I'd still prefer to release everything I planned on releasing together, I.e. New enemy + achievements + LLL, but ig I can try and see if I can get new enemy done by end of today

[torn goblet]

Ooh

Starlancer has also been working on trying to get old birds to attack your Giant XD