Pool Rooms v0.1.23

[random fog]

Compatible with diversity?

[eternal sentinel]

yeah

it compatable

[digital geyser]

Fred I finally got to playing inside the pool rooms, was a great experience

[real spindle]

Pushed a new version which takes my hands off the wheel a bit and lets Lethal Level Loader do its thing 🙂
This new version also fixes those initial red errors about network prefab global objectID hash. Here are the notes:

• Added a bit of extra room depth to the entrance outward from the entrance door so other rooms wont be generated on the other side of the entrance door
• All prefabs are now setup to be fixed by LethalLevelLoader instead of my own scripts, not including RandomMapObject spawners
• Improvements to level weight parsing from config
• Dungeon fire escape counts are handled by LethalLevelLoader now
• Improvements to setting up item groups for scrap and adding the custom items

[real spindle]

Hey, glad you like it. Still very much in beta, lots of improvements to make 🙂

[digital geyser]

was just walking around these locker room areas, worried a centipede or the fiend would spawn on me from the dark ceilings lol

Is there like a lifeguard/admin room?

[real spindle]

Good question, definitely needs one

On my list now 🙂

[digital geyser]

that might be a good one to add, and could have lockers that could contain scrap in it

[real spindle]

I would probably make it an end cap room like the saunas

[digital geyser]

I think it would be interesting too if maybe some of the tile rooms would change color

like you walk into one pool room and all the tiles are blood red or green or something

[real spindle]

The rooms themselves need a full details pass for sure

I am just getting the gameplay down right now and the bugs worked out, then I will be adding graphical polish to all the rooms

[digital geyser]

Yeah all that basic beta stuff, I still need some people to play with so i can go deeper in these interiors

🫡 good first run though

[fading cypress]

compatible with LLL 1.0.7 or does it have to be 1.1.4 (newest)?

[real spindle]

1.1.4. I cannot make it compatible with both, I did try tho.

[fading cypress]

alrighto

[real spindle]

I think you pin pointed it? I turned on LethalThings with v0.1.9 and it had the index out of range error as well

[pseudo tapir]

is it possible to confiure what moons it spawns on

[random fog]

yes

[carmine sparrow]

so i keep getting stuck at the random seed screen with this update, but not with the prev one could just be my modpack tho not sure if anyone else has had that

[copper hawk]

@real spindle Remember, you can check out #role-picker and get yourself some colour.

[real spindle]

Hey thanks for the reminder 🙂

[copper hawk]

I'm most definitely not a bot.

[steel folio]

I played this poolrooms mod and the poolrooms were pitch black and i had some interior mods

[real spindle]

I think it is related to using the LethalThings mod with pool rooms since it is the only way I can make it happen, I am looking into it but I need to look into the LethalLib codebase.

[steel folio]

why?

[carmine sparrow]

ooo ok

i mean its fine ill just downpatch cuz that works

so no rush!

also awesome interior! 🩷

[real spindle]

Pitch black? Like it didn't load or?

Lights off?

[carmine sparrow]

might be cullfactory if i had to guess

[real spindle]

After a bunch of messing I think I got the Incompatibility with LethalThings sorted. Pushed V 0.1.11, changenotes:

• Hopeful fix for the incompatibility with LethalThings (Index out of range exception)
• Added tuning for the Interiors custom scrap. Can now set each scraps weight, if it shows up at all, and if it should show up in all maps not just PoolRooms

Thanks to all who are testing and giving feedback and reports. Things are shaping up 🙂

[sacred flume]

What compat issue with LethalThings? :S I never had any issue >.<

[real spindle]

Scroll up, the screenshots with the index out of range. I was getting it too but ONLY with LethalThings turned on. it might have been a mod ordering thing but IDK! I just know it was in SpawnMapObjects which I also was hooking. I refactored and no longer hook that function and I cannot get it to happen anymore.

It was happening to me I would say every 1 in 3 times with LethalThings active, now I cannot get it to happen. Hopefully it is sorted 🙂

[main girder]

Yeah it's not consistent

At all

But hopefully it's consistently working

😛

[sacred flume]

Ow that, is it not linked to the Teleporter Traps? 😛

[real spindle]

Well I don't hook the function anymore which was failing with an index out of range and don't do any of the RandomMapObject changes I was doing anymore so I think it should be good 🤞

[real spindle]

Nope, the teleport traps seem to work fine. I was teleported to the sauna with a locked door 😂

[main girder]

Locked in the sauna with a Lootbug

Sounds like a good time

:3

[sacred flume]

Haha! xD That actually sounds like a horror IRL maybe nice for first 20 mins xD

[devout nimbus]

hi can you please add moon weight by level tags (or enable the LLL config file entry)?

I use over 30 custom moons so with other interiors I'm able to add them to every custom moon using the tag 'Custom:300' inside the LLL config, but the same thing doesn't seem to be working in PoolRooms config.

[sacred flume]

Why would you want all your moons have the same rarity? o.o

[gaunt quartz]

a lot of the rooms feel big and empty, and there's not as many doors. can u add props to rooms so that players have to enter and look around, and make it feel slightly more claustrophobic?

[scenic trench]

When I was playing with someone, the mod was working fine. At the end of the deadline instead of Gordion, we flew back to the planet (had no scrap) and it resulted in infinite loading.

[real spindle]

Yep, I plan on cluttering and adding a lot more detail to the rooms

[real spindle]

Infinite loading, like the "seed" text staying stuck on the screen?

[scenic trench]

Yes, the one i had before. That was fixed by deleting the config and restarting the game

[real spindle]

I am probably going to turn on LLL config soon.

[real spindle]

Might be fixed in the latest

If you are refering to the conflict with LethalThings

[gaunt quartz]

thanks!

[devout nimbus]

with a lot of moons and 11 possible interiors it's easier to just make everything random than to have to decide where to go or what interiors to give to each moon

[sacred flume]

11 Interiors? o.o

[scenic trench]

No idea what the conflict was. When I was playing solo I had the infinite loading at "Generating seed" or whatever. That one was fixed after I saw someone suggest regenerating the configs.
The current issue though was random and happened on 4th day when we went back to the planet instead of Gordion, so I have no clue what could even cause the issue

[bleak panther]

what are all of them

[devout nimbus]

facility, haunted mansion + 9 custom ones

and then there's WIP like ooblterra that's not on Thunderstore yet

[bleak panther]

oh

[devout nimbus]

so will be more than 11 soon

[scenic trench]

Ah, I thought I was on the latest update but it was the wrong profile. Since we both had LethalThings installed I will assume that was probably the cause of the random infinite seed generation and now fixed 😁

[unique sand]

Level?

[real spindle]

The next version will default to using LLL config.

[devout nimbus]

thats helps a lot, thanks

[digital geyser]

lol whats funny is i had just reinstalled lethal things a few hours ago, but i cant remember if i was playing pool before or after i redownloaded it

[digital geyser]

theres Also Hadal, maybe the Halo one, and the minecraft one

I think there was another one too that was WIP but i can't remember

[random fog]

@real spindle hey it seems like the mod doesn’t work with lethallevelloader 1.0.7

[digital geyser]

ye you gotta use latest LLL

[random fog]

I cant its broken

[devout nimbus]

yea I haven't been keeping track of non-thunderstore interiors since for playing they might as well not exist since I can't let people install it from a code

[random fog]

Im experiencing the same issue on it as other ppl where it breaks the console and prevents you from loading on any moon including experimentation

So i gotta use 1.0.7

[digital geyser]

sounds like you got to delete something in your modlist

[devout nimbus]

one of them could be SkipToMultiplayer menu, or you might have a custom moon that has special characters in its name

[random fog]

Yeah but theres also the issue of the lll config being forced

At least I heard it was

[devout nimbus]

yes it is, I heard a fixed version will come out in a matter of hours

[random fog]

Ok cool

[random fog]

you can download the minecraft one

on thunderstore

its still wip of course

[gaunt quartz]

some branching hallways would be really good too, it's kind of hard to get lost in this interior

[real spindle]

It does generate 4 way halls that get turned on and off depending on how the generator generates. Maybe some more variation would help.

Large hallway tiles like the factory flow has.

[gaunt quartz]

i saw those, but it was more like a mini-room than a long hallway or how the vanilla concrete corridors can join

[real spindle]

Right, so much larger hallways then

[gaunt quartz]

yes

are you able to make certain regions create a "labyrinth" of sorts?

like looping and whatnot

something that someone would have to pay attention to and remember to find their way back

[real spindle]

Right

[gaunt quartz]

and if they were like being chased, they could easily end up in the wrong dead end

[real spindle]

OK, I have some ideas for this. And I definitely agree it is needed. Expect it soon 🙂

[gaunt quartz]

awesome!! 😄

i cant wait

[sudden kraken]

I haven't checked the previous messages but has the incompatibility with Better Spray Paint been resolved? 🥺

[random fog]

probably not

[real spindle]

I have no idea why it wouldn't work with better spray paint. Is there an error log?

[half thistle]

Better spray paint does some funky stuff that breaks all interiors afaik

[sudden kraken]

Yeah it's the most bizarre thing, sorry currently in bed at the mo, not entirely sure what the fix was but positive knibbs or major could give some insight

[cerulean dune]

would be nice if the textures were a bit more degraded (or atleast some more variation so they dont look flat from afar), i get it's trying to be liminal but it feels more like plastic. the water also looks a tiny bit like sand or something

other than that, love the interior!

[real spindle]

All rooms need a detail pass. Still trying to get gameplay down.
The water needs a better surface normal. It is hard to get it to look right with the posterization shader or whatever which makes most of that final detail stuff in the normals look really blocky.

[cerulean dune]

ah, alright!

[real spindle]

If you have any water materials to try I would be greatful 🙂
Kinda wanted the water to look like this

[cerulean dune]

i unfortunately don't

anyways, silly little compatibility idea is to make the water lights red during a meltdown with FacilityMeltdown installed

[real spindle]

Hmm, then the mod would require FacilityMeltdown as a dependency and not everybody wants to have it installed, or would have to know what to generally bind to for events.

[west island]

if you're gonna go this route please make sure it's not too performance-intensive or have some sort of config to use less detailed water 🙏

[west island]

you can make it a soft dependency

[keen oxide]

you underestimate me my friend

[real spindle]

NICE! I will bind that, on my list now 🙂

[keen oxide]

the events are super new so if any are not working as intended throw bricks into my window ❤️

[real spindle]

No problem 😄

[keen oxide]

also ofc all of those events only fire if it's your dungeon thats selected, so no need for any checking and such

[cerulean dune]

turning off the breaker should also turn off the water lights

[main girder]

Tbh, though I wouldn't be against them turning a dim red, like "Emergency power"

[cerulean dune]

this is probably the best interior i've seen in terms of loot density

[main girder]

Agreed! Loot density very well done

[digital geyser]

True, but I also think it's because the design is well done

[finite forge]

is there a way in the config to select every moon including modded ones? i.e. in a similar fashion to how interiors like Bunker used to work:

setting "all" for poolrooms only does all vanilla moons and i am trying to select every single moon

[sacred flume]

all,moonname,moonname,moonname,moonname,moonname,moonname,moonname

[finite forge]

i'm aware of that, i meant if there was a solution besides naming every moon individually

i have a lot of moons

[vast sedge]

wait all doesn’t work for modded

?

[finite forge]

no, specifying "all" only works for the vanilla ones

[keen oxide]

add vanilla:9999,custom:9999 to dynamicleveltags

[finite forge]

not sure if poolrooms supports LLL's config options, at least I haven't figured out how to disable poolrooms own config. setting this value to true doesn't seem to do anything for me at least

[finite forge]

using those tags in the Poolrooms config does not work, just gave it a try. however can confirm every other interior does work perfectly with this.

[real spindle]

Hey @finite forge the next version will give you what you want. I will try to push it shortly.

[finite forge]

you are a legend, thank you

[glacial ridge]

is this a mod or just a fancy lsit?

[real spindle]

Version 0.1.12 incoming:

• Pool Rooms will now defer to Lethal Level Loaders moon configuration by default (generateAutomaticConfigurationOptions). You can turn this off by setting UsePoolRoomsMoonsConfig to true.
• Pool Rooms configuration now supports "Custom" moons. You can still name them individually if you choose but you can include "Custom:100" for example in the comma sep list and it will tell Lethal Level Loader to add all custom moons with a weight of 100. The "All" identifier has had "Custom" added to it as well so by default the mod adds all vanilla moons and now all custom moons.

I am hoping with this we have gotten most of the "deployment" kinks out of the way and I can get back to working on the room detailing, adding new rooms, and that pool noodle weapon I promised. 🙂

[snow furnace]

This mod is really cool and has so much possibility for depth and interesting features considering it’s a blend between liminal spaces and like boiler rooms and empty high school pools, so new rooms that expand on both of its halves and help fill in much-needed variety gaps will be awesome!

[main girder]

Pool noodle should deal 0.1 damage

Very stronk

New challenge: Kill Bracken with a pool noodle

[real spindle]

PoolRooms v0.1.12

[teal pond]

Ok question does this fix the loading issue?

[real spindle]

if you mean the Index out of range compat with LethalLib, was fixed in V0.1.11 🙂

[teal pond]

W

[steel folio]

i heard sounds but pitch black as soon i entered the building, i had diversity mod idk if that caused it

[steel folio]

i fixed it

it was because of diversity i think

i just changed the full darkness config to off

[wanton tulip]

meltdown has its own overengineered api and you can just use BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader.PluginInfos.ContainsKey("me.loaforc.facilitymeltdown") to check on wether to register it so you dont need it as a hard dependency

internal class EmergencyLightsEffect : MeltdownSequenceEffect {
    public EmergencyLightsEffect() : base(MeltdownPlugin.modGUID, "EmergencyLights") {}

    public override void Setup() {
        base.Setup();
        for (int i = 0; i < RoundManager.Instance.allPoweredLights.Count; i++) {
            RoundManager.Instance.allPoweredLights[i].color = Color.red;
        }
    }
    public override IEnumerator Play(float timeLeftUntilMeltdown) {
        for (int i = 0; i < RoundManager.Instance.allPoweredLightsAnimators.Count; i++) {
            RoundManager.Instance.allPoweredLightsAnimators[i].SetBool("on", true);
        }

        yield return new WaitForSeconds(2f);

        for (int i = 0; i < RoundManager.Instance.allPoweredLightsAnimators.Count; i++) {
            RoundManager.Instance.allPoweredLightsAnimators[i].SetBool("on", false);
        }

        yield return new WaitForSeconds(5f);
        yield break;
    }

    public override bool IsEnabledOnThisMoon(SelectableLevel level) {
        return MeltdownConfig.Instance.EMERGENCY_LIGHTS.Value;
    }
}

like that's all that the base red light flashing does

[keen oxide]

u missed my message

[wanton tulip]

idid

[keen oxide]

.

[wanton tulip]

but i feel that flashing red lights kind of has been tied to meltdown at this point

[keen oxide]

naur

[tacit ferry]

Suggestion: Deja vu poster/sign to poolrooms like this one:

U should change platform to place

To the wall

On the poolrooms

U cant pick it up

Btw

I can Make the design if yall want and like a paper model

This would fit to the liminality

[winged crag]

Dang that’s ominous af

[tacit ferry]

Also Something like this to the floor? Somewhere that would Make sense

And rooms like this these have a lower chance of generating - courtyard

Idea

This is from backrooms

[main girder]

Wet Floor signs would be a great scrap exclusive to PoolRooms

[tacit ferry]

This also

Right

And that wouldnt be pickable

[tacit ferry]

Will there be more rooms

Releated to the poolrooms

[main girder]

Idk, I'm not a PoolRooms dev

I assume so lol

[tacit ferry]

Ye

[torpid sundial]

Fits pretty good with the liminal aspect of the game

[eternal sentinel]

I would like to see an actual backrooms interior dungeon, (not like the one that allready exists and is just a area outside the main dungeon)

[fast vector]

That would be pretty cool tbh. Or the already existing Backrooms mod spawns in scrap you can find

[west island]

a dungeon based on the backrooms would be an absolute nightmare for navigation, although i guess some people are into that. office might be close to what you're looking for but i haven't played with it myself

[fast vector]

Well yeah, the backrooms currently in Modded LC is designed to be a nightmare to traverse because its not designed as a interior to explore, but a interior that serves as a trap. If the Backrooms (Level 0) was designed to be a proper interior, it would have different rooms and it would be decorated with random things that no clipped into the backrooms, as well as drawings, crawlspaces & doors

[plucky quartz]

Are other interior mods currently incomparable with poolrooms?

Need to know if I should remove any before I try

[fast vector]

Havent seen a issue yet. Cant say much about MinecraftStronghold or LC_Office though since Masa doesnt have those installed, but every other interior hasnt clashed

[plucky quartz]

Alright

[last swan]

This is such a good suggestion

[winged crag]

Yeah, especially considering the whole “returning to the same area on the same moon but a different inside” gameplay loop

[eternal sentinel]

yes

[golden ruin]

anyone else here use this interior on Magic_Wesley's Atlantica?

[lilac turtle]

it doesent load on it

[golden ruin]

does for me

[lilac turtle]

oh fr

must have been an update or something

[golden ruin]

if it still aint workin for ya, i can screenshot my settings

[main girder]

It loads, but for me it was kinda buggy visually due to Atlantica's gimmick

[golden ruin]

hm. looked fine to me, but eh

[timid jewel]

I wonder how does the mod oops all flooded look on this interior

[random fog]

It would be better to just use a diff backrooms level at that point

[fast vector]

Perhaps, though it wouldn't be out of the blue to still have level 0, and have random moments where you just clip through into another section of level 0. Personally would definitely say Level 0 deserves more attention, being the classic level where everyone gets stuck, and most dont survive.

Higher levels have less and less population, so also less signals and hints of people that have been around.

[last swan]

Hello, I just wanted to leave some feedback

Most of this interior is absolutely amazing

The sauna rooms and being able to open some lockers are really nice touches

the only thing I found a bit weird was the color of the water, it seemed a bit too vibrant for Lethal Company imo

[real spindle]

On my list of scrap items to add 🙂
Thanks

[plucky quartz]

having a hard time trying to get this to generate on modded moons

anyone know the correct config i should do?

[eternal sentinel]

i found a devious little fella

Mr shrimp in the poolrooms

[fast vector]

Awww, Shrimp thinks they're a actual shrimp creature!

[eternal sentinel]

yes

very smort

😄

he a good boi

i fed him a case of beer

[fast vector]

He's a shrimple shrimp

[eternal sentinel]

yes

i touched a snol and dieds

me send 20 mb clip

of the snol that biter my toe in the pool

(very sads)

10 years later of bad wifi uploading

(this is the part where you wait 10 years for my 20 mb file to upload)

[fast vector]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-issues-gif-13031152103567454559

[eternal sentinel]

now devide 10 years by how many humans could live duringf hat time and thats how many times this would happen before you see the clip

wait a minute

never mind, i think it will upload in 12 secconds

he bit my toe

im sueing

[fast vector]

Oh hey you use the same suit Masa uses

[eternal sentinel]

can i kidnap you and maker you play my modpack with me

i promist there is no zip bombs or virusus

i checked myself just like how i checked the minefield back in nam and lost 45 of my regenerrating legs

@fast vector hellow?

you not respond in 45 years

anyone hhome?

[last swan]

45 years = 4 minutes

[eternal sentinel]

nah

thats just 4 minutes in businessdays

kniow what

thats it

im kidnapping you

[last swan]

https://tenor.com/view/depression-falling-down-gif-26367565

[eternal sentinel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816379286852337675/1207792647377526885/wwwww.png?ex=65e0ef8e&is=65ce7a8e&hm=027536fa0ebdfaaae1f757a60c85be884292a943079921bb2eedd0fc725ae336&

[teal pond]

😦

[real spindle]

Water doesn't slow you down... yet 😉
The idea around this is, when it does, there would be some alternatives/jumping puzzles to get around the water to speed things up, or the water would be considered something to avoid if you need to move quick. I doubt the hindrance will be substantial, and sure I can add a config for it.

[last swan]

awesome

[winged crag]

Haha awesome

[real spindle]

That mod is going to play weird with PoolRooms which already has elements of "flooding" and will probably have future mechanics around that.

Sign will be different depending on which was spawned

[tacit ferry]

No offense but i think that some gray or white, ye prob white texture would fit better than the blue and Green just an idea

Or white

Not just pure white detail to it also just an idea

Like its not bad but everyone got their own styles

And I respect that so this was just my suggestion

This is my opinion and ye I understand if u dont wanna change it but Just an idea

[real spindle]

But who brought pickles to the pool!

[real spindle]

I was thinking about making it random colors perhaps haha

[tacit ferry]

I dont like that idea

Maybe a config

And u can choose the color

[gaunt quartz]

it's slowly turning into

[real spindle]

Here is my concept, the strong orange color here

[tacit ferry]

Maybe it could fit idk

[last swan]

nice

looks kinda like the gmod missing texture areas

[real spindle]

I do think the color is TOO intense

[tacit ferry]

White or gray

Is good

[real spindle]

OK OK!

[tacit ferry]

?

Is it

[real spindle]

rip my head off why don't you 😉

[tacit ferry]

What

[real spindle]

I will change it

I am just kidding

[last swan]

nah I like the random colors

[last swan]

ye, perhaps

[tacit ferry]

I said that bc u said this

[last swan]

a little faded would fit great

[tacit ferry]

Idk

Maybe

[real spindle]

too white?

[tacit ferry]

Nah

Thats nicd

Nice

But some detail to the White would be nice yk

[real spindle]

OK, I am prepping to release this as V 0.1.13 shorly

[tacit ferry]

Like more realistic touch

To the white

[real spindle]

All rooms will get more details over time 🙂

I put a fair bit into the bathrooms now I need to give the others some love

[tacit ferry]

Cool

[tacit ferry]

Looks nice

[real spindle]

There is also blue?

haha, I love color 😉

[last swan]

I do like the colors

they fit the liminal vibe really wel

[tacit ferry]

I know that blue and White both so there is a chance that the blue generates or white

?

So randomly blue or white

U know what I mean

Like there is a chance that the bathroom will either have those as that blue or the white

When u enter

[outer fractal]

Damn you’re working fast and good

Well done!

[tacit ferry]

Does this give me nostalgia cant tell but looks amazing

Its liminal and thats good

[last swan]

gonna post this suggestion one more time

doesn't need to be "Deja vu area" or "alert an mta employee" but seeing a poster telling me the area shouldn't feel familiar would be super freaky to see

[tacit ferry]

Yeah

In fact that poster is also in One backrooms game

I Remember

[real spindle]

V0.1.13 Pushed to Thunderstore, should update for you soon. Changelist:

• Wet floor sign scrap
• Bathrooms (Male and Female [Random])
• Pool Area art and design pass
• New Labyrinth tunnel room type

PoolRooms v0.1.13

[tacit ferry]

Gonna try out that update in Morning I'm so tired

[sudden kraken]

The Valve Source Hammer editor vibe

[vast harbor]

Hey, so I've noticed I'm getting stuck in "random seed" when I load this interior. Is there anything that is known to cause this?

[teal pond]

Looks dupe

[real spindle]

Any information in the log output?

[vast harbor]

I ended up figuring it out. It required me removing and readding something? its strange

It seems to work fine now at least

[real spindle]

I see, interesting. Well good to hear it works fine now 🙂

[vast harbor]

I'll try to get info if it happens again!

[real spindle]

Cheers!

[hollow salmon]

oohhh yesss more tiles

[steel folio]

yeah...

...

[steel folio]

vhs reshade fits this mod

this looks creepy

does it

[vast sedge]

Is this #1207737548869337179

[steel folio]

its the vhs one ye

[pseudo tapir]

what do i put as the configs to make this appear on custom moons ?

@sudden kraken

[sudden kraken]

Add the custom moon to the config, it gives an example

[pseudo tapir]

cheers

[limber cave]

u setup manual weight for each moon or have them having a default weight

btw we should be able to set it to 0 please ;_;

also, i am not sure on what UsePoolRoomsMoonsConfig setting does

[pseudo tapir]

neither i had a malfunction trying to understand it

[west island]

if set to false, the LLL config will be used instead of the PoolRooms config

[limber cave]

which... i don't want

i mean it should be true by default i think

[pseudo tapir]

no its false by default

yoyoyoy

does anyone know where i put the code on r2modman

to get the mods

[sullen nimbus]

Settings > Profile > Change Profile > Import/Update

[nocturne pasture]

@real spindle Would it be possible to update the LLL dep to 1.1.6? poolrooms is overwriting my version in my modpack

[real spindle]

Yep, no problem

[real spindle]

0.1.14 pushed, updated LLL version to 1.1.6

Changelog:

• Updated LLL dependency to 1.1.6
• Minimum value of MaxGenerationScale set to 1.0
• Added a Nav mesh obstacle component with carve to all tile blockers just in case two rooms are close enough that nav mesh would be generated between them when it shouldn't since its a wall

[nocturne pasture]

Woohooo!

[vast sedge]

this is my all time favorite interior

[real spindle]

PoolRooms v0.1.14

[eternal sentinel]

wait a minute

isnt the poolrooms supposed to have sunlight in it magically with no visible source

yet the mod is the darkest map ever

[last swan]

Depends on which level of poolrooms in the lore I think

[timid jewel]

Yup

[limber cave]

ayo

also WC door audio play twice

probably is intended but could use some tweaking

the coridors are huge, and the fact that they dont connect to each other like the map suggest is bigoof

[noble hare]

Damn half the map is an excel sheet

[sturdy atlas]

I do like that orange and white though, gives developer room vibes 😄

[noble hare]

reminds me of the movie theater bathrooms

[real spindle]

Yea that in an unfortunate generation, I will tweak the labyrinth tile to not do this sort of thing as best I can

[limber cave]

happened twice in a row so i assume it is fairly common

was on rend

[real spindle]

It is a common piece used in the "tunnels" section of the flow

[limber cave]

apart from that, it feels great to enter through the main door and see somewhat a logic patern

[real spindle]

On the map it also doesn't show that a lot of those corridors have blockers

[limber cave]

probably should either have different tile depending on the connexion (shaped like X, T, L, I) or make so that its always open if there is 2 next to each other even tho they are not directly connected in the dungeon generation

thats a thing those interior need actually, some form of navigation that is not just a line with a dead-end everytime

[real spindle]

Yep, will improve in the next version

I JUST found a flag I forgot to set all along that will generate more connections, not just dead ends as you say

[limber cave]

ow owo

[west island]

i think this interior could use some props or variations in color, just something to make navigation easier

[devout nimbus]

yea or huge multi-story rooms that would help as landmarks, sort of like the Facility's super-long room with a conveyor, that room with 2 lockers and a hole in the middle, or the big L-shaped warehouse with a set of stairs going down

maybe a giant swimming pool or a cafeteria that could only generate once

[fervent sandal]

Love the mod, it's been great having some extra variety. One suggestion though
In the config the default weight is set at 100, but without context on the other weights for interiors that doesn't mean much. Is 100 a really low spawn chance, or nearly guaranteed?
If we could get the weights of the other, non-modded interior spawn chances that'd be extremely helpful

[west island]

type 'simulate <planet>' into the terminal, that will tell you the dungeon chances for that planet

[devout nimbus]

1. the default interior weight is 300
2. use the simulate command in terminal, for example simulate vow
3. you can override the weight for every interior on any moon using the LethalLevelLoader config

[limber cave]

oooooh u just made me remember a thing i had to ask...

why can't i SET IT TO 0 >:V

i am manually setting weight for each moon

[limber cave]

i dont want to have to add to the string to make every moon i dont want pool manually 0 ;_;

[west island]

if you don't list a moon it will not spawn there

[limber cave]

uh

[real spindle]

Will fix, thanks 😉

[limber cave]

"and a moon doesn't have an explicit rarity weight."
it means i have to add them to the string and specify 0

right ?

or am i becoming dumb ¿ o-°

[west island]

that's for if you add a moon to the list but don't specify a weight

by default if you don't list a moon the interior can't spawn on it

[limber cave]

yea right, but how i do is i add the moon i want it to spawn on, so every moon i don't would be great if i could avoid putting them to shorten the strong

[real spindle]

That is true

[limber cave]

wah

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[west island]

you only need to add the moons you want it to spawn on

[limber cave]

ooh i get it

[real spindle]

If you use one of the keywords like "all, vanilla" etc it will add all those of course. You can see which moons were added in the startup log.

[limber cave]

this mean if i added the moon in the string without a weight

[west island]

yep

[limber cave]

damit

still, why every dungeon mod have there setting different ;_;

like some u must write vow300, some vow@300, some vow:300
some dont allow custom weight (yet)

i've made this to generate the string for me (was tired of doing it everytime)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v9jYgZ5S89hRUzOC-72beafA4jORjfkh7YMc4_dyLsc/edit?usp=sharing

[trim juniper]

where did you get this data? (particulary the weights for facility and mansion)

[limber cave]

older version of LLL use to show the weight in the console

[unique sand]

What is that crypt moon?

Interior sorry

[limber cave]

thats how i named the castle from scoopys

[trim juniper]

oh ok, thanks

[limber cave]

i may rename those later when LLL will actually ask for a readable name

its not fully automated (like adding moons), but else u can change the value in each moons tab, it will be changed in the global one and generate the string

[last swan]

Beautiful spreadsheet

[limber cave]

thx c:

[last swan]

Consider adding something like this?

[limber cave]

oh yea that one visually scared me away

u mean add the visual thingy ?

@last swan

[last swan]

yeah

[last swan]

It'd be nice to have a bunch of small pie charts in one, but i dont see that being possible while keeping the colors the same so maybe add a stacked bar chart like this

[limber cave]

im on it

[last swan]

sick

[last swan]

I tried adding more visual improvements like colored lines, but if you have any other suggestions for how to make it more readable lemme know

[limber cave]

it's yours ?

[last swan]

yeah, its the interior rates for my modpack Easyidle's Quality Moons

[limber cave]

oh nice great job too

[last swan]

oh thanks!

Btw, I got info about lots of the moons default interior rates like these

if you need them for your sheet

[trim juniper]

is there any way to manually configure the facility and mansion spawn rates

[last swan]

not that i know of

those are what the mod devs set them to

[limber cave]

i think i had found a way but i didn't tested

[limber cave]

u mean moons i don't have ?

[last swan]

I was meaning for the rates of the two vanilla interiors, but it looks like you have all yours set

[limber cave]

yup

i had to do math to find both starlancer ones

[noble hare]

can there be a config for the size multipler or size box for this interior since it keeps being way to large on easy moons

[west island]

wish the minimum could go below 1, though

[devout tree]

Hello, I cannot get PoolRooms to show up at all

UsePoolRoomsConfig = true, Moons = All:100, Guaranteed = true

Nothing else in my pack besides LLL and a custom moon I'm working on

[west island]

if you use the simulate command what does it say

[devout tree]

would that just be "simulate [moon]" in the terminal?

[west island]

yeah

[west island]

that's really weird

maybe all:100 is breaking it

try putting all in the box and then setting the general rarity to 100

[real spindle]

PoolRooms v0.1.15

[noble hare]

What mod is that, that would be very useful

[devout tree]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LethalMatt/Bozoros/

[gilded bobcat]

instead of using All:100 you have to type each moon manually. Here is what I did

Experimentation:250,Assurance:250,Vow:250,Offense:250,March:250,Rend:250,Dine:250,Titan:250,Kast:250,Etern:250

[noble hare]

Yeah I did that for another interior and it worked

[noble hare]

Is this the mod that shows the rarities?

[devout tree]

this is a moon I'm building

LLL is the only other mod i'm using

[real spindle]

It's odd because "all" is just a macro for including all these:
"Experimentation", "Assurance", "Vow", "Offense", "March", "Rend", "Dine", "Titan", "Custom"
Custom gets handled differently using LLLs manualContentSourceNameReferenceList instead of manualPlanetNameReferenceList

[noble hare]

It looks pretty cool

What command it for interior rarities then?

[devout tree]

simulate

[fast vector]

Oh hey, Masa's gonna be testing that out today with a friend! :D

[noble hare]

Great to know

[keen oxide]

It's very much my fault because everyone got it wrong but that's not how manualContentSourceName works which is why

if you want an "all" you'd just want to use "Vanilla" and "Custom" in dynamicleveltags

contentsourcename will never have custom

[real spindle]

Cheers! I will change this 🙂

[west island]

in the next update can you also change this setting to have a lower acceptable value, like 0.1 or something

[real spindle]

Sure sure

Sounds like people are finding the "optimal" tuning for pool rooms. I would love to hear what numbers people like the best.

[noble hare]

yes thats the issue which is common with most modded interiors

the default is not too large though to where i have to walk a mile to find scrap

[west island]

scrap distribution is actually quite good on this map yeah

still pretty large though

[noble hare]

i find 1 scrap like every 2 or 3 rooms which is better than most and theres no lag

[real spindle]

I am still tuning the main path depth and branching path depth

I am also finding it too large... I don't want it to be too easy tho..

I keep thinking maybe I the level is too boring haha. Like seeing the same too much.

[keen oxide]

More of a long term goal but i'd love to see what we could open up if we messed with dungen itself via patching

[noble hare]

the original pool rooms would be way too big

if you need ideas for tiles im sure people have some

[west island]

i sort of agree, like i said earlier in this thread adding some random props and color variants could do a lot to spice things up while also helping navigation

or just more landmark tiles

[noble hare]

the map isnt boring though fr its overall a vibe but still scary from how dark areas can be with the reflective water being the only light

[real spindle]

yep, some more DunGen controls would be nice. SDM is modifying the generator in some interesting ways I believe.

[noble hare]

if the map was like 10-25 percent smaller if would probably be on par with the default facility spwn rates

[real spindle]

All rooms will get more details over time which should help. The hallway / labyrinth sections will get brass pipes and such

[real spindle]

What I am going for TBH

[west island]

looking forward to it 👍

[noble hare]

is there an apparatus spawn or nah

[real spindle]

The latest has been reduced in size and there will be more connections between branches now. (in the version released a couple hours ago)

[noble hare]

im guessing not since a lot of the tiles are small

[real spindle]

Yes, Pool Rooms always generates an apparatus

It is deep, always at the end of the maze

[noble hare]

me and my friends have only been on it like 4 times and they already like it more than some of the others

[west island]

it is definitely ahead of the curve in terms of playability, all it really needs now is some more variety

maybe some new mechanics like drowning hazards

[noble hare]

yes this is one of a few interiors ive seen not make the tiles way too wide and long

which isnt a bad thing for areas that arent the damn main hall way

[leaden steppe]

Maybe a deep pool that you need to cross, but if you stay you drown?

Or maybe a platform that you need to jump between planks and if you miss you fall deep and you drown (maybe automatically death)

[noble hare]

other interiors like sewer and mental hospital castle have annoying long as hell parkour but if you did a room with just a short jump like in the dungeon or facility interior it would be fine

[fast vector]

Can't believe the majority these days say that parkour is annoying 😭

[noble hare]

in hospital its not that bad because the room rarely appears but in sewer its annoying as hell

[old gyro]

thats because they keep dying to it, and thats why its good to keep those things

[noble hare]

i have had many friends who still die to the facility parkour 🗿

[old gyro]

Very good, that means it works its "Lethal" enough

[lilac turtle]

then ur group is bad

sewer parkour is easy bruh

[runic pine]

it's an interior dungeon?

[timid jewel]

Yes

[night pumice]

i like parkour so much i always flex on the dogs when leaving the upper fire exit on kast by doing parkour around light poles and pipes

[real spindle]

PoolRooms has a parkour section, has anybody died to it / Should I make it trickier?

[old gyro]

from my experience, jumping on the side on the wall seems pretty easy even with heavy items, you just gotta take some little distance, run and jump and you are safe, the facility interior as example has it harder with its random location of the metal piece in the middle, maybe ya could add more things to block you from jumping and having it harder to get across

[west island]

it's fine as is

[covert bramble]

my group hasn't been able to see it tbh

it only seems to spawn on vanilla moons

no matter what I change in the config

when I've had it on

All, Paid, or Custom

[west island]

i think due to an issue the macros dont work

you need to list planets

[real spindle]

Next version will have the change to hopefully fix this

[fast vector]

Wow chat didnt update until now lmao, it was ohurs behind and Masa was answering a already answered question 😭

[noble hare]

thanks for the negativity

[lilac turtle]

they call mr Mr. Negative

from spiderman

[real spindle]

PoolRooms v0.1.16

V0.1.16 pushed:

• Changed "all", "custom", "modded", and "vanilla" configMoons to use dynamicLevelTagsList which should fixing the interior spawning on Custom moons
• More art details
• Reduced the dungeon main path length and branching lengths a bit
• Detecting teleports out of water and stopping the water splashing behavior when noticed
• Added radar rendering blockers on hallway blockers and to mask out 4 way and labyrinth non-traversable areas

[noble hare]

very nice

[noble hare]

damn this is nice as hell i was a little iffy on the pipe room but this one is really good

i wanna go find this now

[eternal sentinel]

Is this mod compatable with "oops all flooded"

it floods inside the building is what "oops all flooded" does

(on flooded moons)

[noble hare]

not sure but it worked with atlantica which has water all over the ground floor inside

[real spindle]

I guess it depends how they add water to the rooms

Should be compatible

[eternal sentinel]

i think they use the normal flood water cause it rises up like normal

[noble hare]

i had a flood mod on the sewer interior before and both waters co existed

[eternal sentinel]

fix this series of jumps from being possible. It too safe up here.

real question is, why the walls not go up to the celling, and why they be short?

[errant knot]

Isn't there a couple of spots in the Facility layout that's easy to get to and somehow the Jester can't nom you?

[noble hare]

yeah the shelfs in facility and the dressers in mansion

which are a lot easier to jump to but this safespot is still a problem

[real spindle]

NICE! Actually I was thinking about allowing this to be a thing and let the monsters get up here as well with nav connections... Maybe not?

Since all those meshes up there are non-colliding it probably felt pretty broken 😉

[noble hare]

Good because on interiors don't really work with enemies like thumper or jester since they are relentless

You could also put scrap spawns up their to fill the empty space and have a reason to check

This is reminding me a lot of the Traitor town water slide map

[night pumice]

i kinda like the idea of having a safe space that is not normally somewhere accessible

but like

make it so that it's not too strong

so that like maybe you get up there but can't do anything once there

[noble hare]

Doesn't work with thumper he will just run back and forth and jester will wait for you to come down or run to anyone who enters the building at 30 miles per hour

Kinda why they added the thumper bitting people on railing

Actually now that I think this could be used as an area to regain stamina if your escaping thumper

[last swan]

I wouldn't worry about that, the vanilla jump rooms let some monsters cross over them

Maybe do whatever navmesh type is present there to have the same monster accessibility

[noble hare]

I don't think monsters can do this

[fast vector]

Maybe a more natural way to get up there from somewhere in the room? Enemies could behave like Mansion where they need to get up but can cha cja slide down to you once they are upstairs

You could put scraps up there and maybe even have enemies sometimes spawn there to get the drop on you (especially if you place a vent somewhere up there)

[noble hare]

Easier to make an enemy fall down than make them get up without making them fly

[fast vector]

LC definitely would have benefitted from a jumping animation lol

[noble hare]

Thumper don't got legs 😶

[fast vector]

Yet bro is faster than all legged entities 🤨

[noble hare]

He does push ups I guess

[fast vector]

He pushes up really hard for a jump

[noble hare]

That would be scarier than the hunter from l4d

[fast vector]

Big if not trueee

[plucky quartz]

im a fan of the save spot think you should keep it tbh

[noble hare]

tbh yeah each interior ive played has atleast one

[quaint basin]

I'm truly gonna play this mod someday, have you done any stable release ?

It's hard to follow within this channel

I assume your versioning is Major.Minor.Patch so there's no stable yet

[ruby lava]

isn't it stable already?

[quaint basin]

If it is, the convention is not respected, not a terrible deal though

[noble hare]

does mimic work with this mod because it isnt added to the whitelisted interiors

[old gyro]

you mean not listed in the enemy pool?

[noble hare]

like can it go on this if its compatable

[real spindle]

The mod is in beta (IMO) while I finish all the content I want in it for a V1 release. It is very stable, just not feature complete.

[real spindle]

When you say mimic I think the masked enemy

Since PoolRooms has all the features of Level1Flow, it should work fine

[quaint basin]

I see, very nice

[noble hare]

i mean the mimic fire exit mod

i know the masked work because one chased me out of the building on pool rooms back to the ship almost catching up

[gray arch]

Reminder that #mod-showcase exists and that you should post in it

[real spindle]

OHH! The fire exit one... Hmmm. Probably not since the wall blockers in pool rooms are larger, not just a size of a doorway and the configuration is probably different.

[keen oxide]

yeah mimic dev expressed interest in working with me to figure out a way to cross compat it in the future

[real spindle]

V0.1.17 pushed, Changelist:

• Added collision to the props and trusses above the wave room, and it isn't so safe up there anymore...
• Pool lights turn red when pulling the apparatus
• Added some more extra/random details
• New long room
  Have a great weekend 🙂

PoolRooms v0.1.17

[twin pivot]

anyone got a recommended poolrooms config they use for interior chance rates

[keen oxide]

was the lights turning red via the lll event?

[real spindle]

Sure is!

[keen oxide]

and its working all g?

[noble hare]

yes we needed longer hallways so many corners and turns

[real spindle]

yep

[keen oxide]

yipeeee

[cerulean dune]

the lights turning red is cool, but it's not really noticable because the water is lit at all times

[real spindle]

If anyone has a better water shader I am all for changing it. I wanted to use the official Unity water but it is turned off for Lethal Company.

My background is using Unreal and it is so easy to author incredible surface shaders like water there, but in Unity it is hard to do for whatever reason. I tried to find a guide on it and nobody seems to know how, the water shader I use is the closest thing I could find with actual waves, depth fade, etc

[quaint basin]

I can start making a shader if nobody has better. I've been working many times with GLSL so I think I can do that if needed

Have you thought about doing vertex displacement on the water ?

[real spindle]

it already does that

[quaint basin]

Oh nice

[real spindle]

The surface is subdivided and the verts move up and down using a couple of signal functions. I will post the link to what I used...

[quaint basin]

Do objects generate vertex displacement as well ?

[real spindle]

https://github.com/flamacore/UnityHDRPSimpleWater

[quaint basin]

Oh ok ok nice

It's quite old now it seems

By shader you mean surface shader right ?

[real spindle]

yep, but it is the only one I could find :p Remember, this has to be HDRP compatible. It also needs to look like pool water, not ocean water like most shaders

[quaint basin]

Yeah I see

Hdrp has to be hlsl

I guess it's not that different for simple shaders

[real spindle]

Well I would be very grateful for the help, and you would be in the credits / on the github contributers list if you wished

Project source can be found here:
https://github.com/rfsheffer/PoolRooms

[snow furnace]

I have little Unity knowledge or context at the moment, so my apologies if this isn't helpful for what you're actually trying to look for, but in doing a quick search would something like this (specifically picking apart and dissecting the way the pool scene uses its HDRP parameters) be helpful? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehVTtcPUxW0 https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/WaterScenes

[quaint basin]

Oh you have a repo ? Nice, I may also contribute on other points.

[quaint basin]

This water is ocean water

Pool water is much smoother

I don't know if any water in this collection will work. You should try tho

[timid jewel]

You know speaking about water and red lights

https://youtu.be/N2HaGYHHztw?si=95pbeJHsXl5aiart possible chance to have red water and maybe full on red lights? On eclipse moons

[quaint basin]

Hmmm

The scratchy wall thing sounds like a "i got no idea, anybody ?"

[snow furnace]

Oh huh, even the water in the pool section?

[quaint basin]

Oh I'm not sure

You should look at it

[snow furnace]

I know that the SCP interior mod has it set up to generate the Heavy Containment interior tiles when you've gotten a certain distance away from the entrance, so it could perhaps be a similar thing here, where you have a rare chance to come across the fleshpools if you go deep enough into the facility

[quaint basin]

The cool thing with pool water is that you can make it highly interactable since their area is small

To optimize it, you can disable all it's simulations when the player leaves the surrounding rooms

[real spindle]

We can't use this water because it is the Unity HDRP water which requires a project setting Lethal company doesn't have on by default

When I first started this I was using the pool water from the Unity sample and found out it is just invisible in game... because Lethal Company doesn't have the setting set I assume.

[keen oxide]

well...

it's not impossible

i don't think

[quaint basin]

So you need GLSL level shader ?

Or HLSL ?

I started your repo btw, I'll fork it once I get my PC back.

Starred*

[real spindle]

It depends what the flag means. By it being on it might packages a different combination of shaders to support the water features at worst

[keen oxide]

sure but we can package those shaders ourselves in the assetbundles if it doesnt

(and warm them up if necessary)

[real spindle]

The feature in question

[real spindle]

Hard to say if the work is worth it. The posterization might also make the surface look just awful. But it does look very nice in the editor.

[ebon seal]

Question: is it normal for the pool rooms to be extremely dark? even with flashlights it was very hard to see anything. I'm not exactly sure if it was caused by the dungeon itself, or the fact it spawned on asteroid-13 (the pitch black moon with the coilheads)

[real spindle]

Must be "asteroid-13 (the pitch black moon with the coilheads)"
Since this moon must not have a skylight like others?

[ebon seal]

maybe. i'll test it on another moon and see if the behavior changes

[main tendon]

I cannot describe to you the amount of pain I feel while carrying the life preserver. Please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD make it not take up the ENTIRE SCREEN.

Ps this was kind of said as a joke, but also kind of not… 😉

[sturdy atlas]

oh my

this interior is perfect for 096

perfect mood and everything for you to randomly come across this dude

[old gyro]

that looks so creepy my god

[quaint basin]

Agreed lol

My mod will allow to show ranks and changd monster visible names, I think you will even be able to get it creepy through the scanning lol

[main girder]

I love this

Best feature 10/10

Walking across that beam with a Wet Floor sign blocking your vision, less fun, admittedly

[cerulean dune]

what map is that?

[main girder]

Maritopia

[cerulean dune]

looks like vow

[hollow salmon]

Also is there any discussion about spray painting compatibility on this interior?

cause I can't seem to spray on any of the walls

[half thistle]

@real spindle have you enabled decals in the unity project you use for creating the asset bundle? You'll need to in order for spray paint to work

[keen oxide]

@gritty salmon might b nice to turn on by default

[gritty salmon]

Is it not? It's enabled in the pipeline asset the tool assigns when I checked

Or is this some other setting for decals?

[half thistle]

Pretty sure that's right, did my last SCP build on it and haven't gotten any bug reports about it

Batby prob just wasn't sure it was already on

[gritty salmon]

I see I see

Cool looking mod btw

(to whoever here made it)

[gray arch]

thanks

[main tendon]

#1206390977674354738 message welcome to the gang

[faint hatch]

Sounds like fun😂

[teal pond]

Oops all flooded conflicts with poolrooms this is a stormy day btw

[worthy mist]

Lifebuoy hold position is absolutely brilliant!

One ask though. If you can, please fix hand interaction icon being stretched when hovering over custom doors.

[wanton tulip]

ive noticed that myself its not related to this mod, i think its more your resolution/monitor shape? idk what causes it exactly though

[worthy mist]

I know it's not related to this mod directly. It affects other LLL dungeons too. However, I've seen it fixed in Scoopy's for example.

[half thistle]

It might be that you're using the texture instead of the sprite (or vice versa I forget which one works), I had the same issue with my doors

[wanton tulip]

i havent done stuff like that yet lol, i just noticed it when playing with friends

[half thistle]

Oh right you aren't pool room Dev, got mixed up browsing lol

[dapper lion]

what's actually conflicting here, OopsAllFlooded can make stormy/rainy weather also flood the interior but as a small chance

[ruby lava]

Have you already thought about the idea of making the lifebuoys useful ? like, you could throw it at someone drowning in water or mud to save them

[ivory wing]

Does loot ever spawn in bathrooms? I’m about to just stop looking in them at this point 😭

Getting this interior on atlantica is pretty funny though. a whole ocean world and what do they build underneath? a damn swimming pool

[west island]

yes

[full sigil]

is there a config file for this

i cant seem to find it

[random fog]

there is

[full sigil]

Whats it called

[full sigil]

Thnx

Idk why it didn’t generate. Gonna try again

[random fog]

are you loading a save

[teal pond]

Oh nvm then XD

[devout tree]

you know what would be funny

something that tickles the brain

a "Pool" room

(billiards)

[real spindle]

PoolRooms v0.1.18

Hey everyone, pushed V0.1.18. I hope this improves loot distribution and fire exit placement, it seemed to be a fairly decent improvement in my testing:

• Art improvement for the entrance
• Long lockers will no longer always have an openable locker door
• AI pathing improvements and fixes
• Fire exits will now only show up in a couple "room" types, no tunnels
• Loot distribution changes

My overall goal for the loot is to get it feeling like the Factory interior. It is getting there.

[main tendon]

Pog

[normal quartz]

Ahh ohhh so poolrooms doesn't have similar objectives to backrooms, which I assume is more of a cursed banishment realm? Instead it's a dungeon? Or are both dungeon tilesets.

Anyway I don't know how lethal the pools are in poolrooms but if they are swimmy deep then please consider the diving kit seen in lategame_upgrades and flippers found in AdvancedCompany being relevant. Thx for the hard work and content!

[main tendon]

They are not deep. It’s an interior

It is very cool you should try it

[jade flint]

No matter what we try, we get interior desync with this interior constantly even after wiping out our lethal level loader config and having everyone have the same copies of everything 😔

[lilac turtle]

just wait for LMM

lethal mod manager

[worthy mist]

Think default size multipliers are a bit high. Multiple levels with interconnected rooms and loot spread out all over the place.

[modern shale]

Can't spray paint work on this interior?

it's ten times harder to find the way to entrance compared with vanilla interior.

[ashen patio]

Should be priority tbh lol

[wanton shale]

so LECore is not compatible with Poolroom?

[sudden wadi]

I have both LECore and Pool rooms, no problems so far it seems

[wanton shale]

i have all the interiors and seems like sometimes i get stuck on generating seed only when LEcore is enable

my problem is that i can't find which interior is getting generated when it freeze, like i can't see it in the console like before

[sudden wadi]

Are you using https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1214224631108608070 ?

[wanton shale]

Fixed ? let met look

[wanton shale]

oh nice i will try this, are u using it ?

[sudden wadi]

Yup! fixes the interior desync issue. If you are having issuea with weather desync I also recommend WeatherTweaks

[wanton shale]

never had an interior desync issue for a while, but does that fix the infinite freeze when generating seed sometimes?

[sudden wadi]

Maybe? The fix had a bug where that would happen every time in multiplayer and that was fixed. So hopefully your issue is also solved by the solution

Or at least thats my thinking

[wanton shale]

thx ill let you know

btw, is LECore still better than LE (compatibility wise ?) i just saw that LE got uptaded a week ago

[sudden wadi]

Not sure, I just use LECore

I only have one map that uses it still

[wanton shale]

i'mm just waiting for wesleys moons, ether, peter griffin and bikini to get updated to LLL but authors doesn't seems to want to :x

[sudden wadi]

Aquatis for me, but that's technically already done. He's just waiting on a LLL update. I was debating on adding Wesley's but I honestly just wanna cut LECore from my pack

[wanton shale]

oh yea aquatis too, glad to hear that its comming soon but yea wesley's are very cool too

do you know what types of issue can LECore cause ? especially when used with AC

because i have some small desync sometimes (scrap desync) and wondering if it could be the culprit

[sudden wadi]

I don't use AC so no idea

[wanton shale]

not only with ac then, why do you want to get rid of it?

[sudden wadi]

LECore? Because it's sorta redundant with LLL

[keen oxide]

moons that use lecore need lecore

[sudden wadi]

I know, but he was asking why I wanted to remove it from my pack (I think anyways🙃 )

[wanton shale]

yea like what type of issue can LECore create

[sudden wadi]

Also can't it cause minor compatibility issues? Or not anymore? Thought I saw someone say that on here

[wanton shale]

btw since you are here, since new update of LLL is there a way to know which interior is getting generated ? like before i could see it in the console but not anymore, unless im blind

[sudden wadi]

Use the simulate command in the terminal. for example, "simulate vow"

[wanton shale]

ain't no way

[sudden wadi]

Nevermind I misread

That gives you all interior chances

Not sure how to tell in console tbh, was wondering that too @keen oxide

[wanton shale]

ok so i tested with LLLFixed, still have the "infinite generating seed screen", it would really help if i could knoww which interior is causing this. @sudden wadi @keen oxide

Maybe linked to fire exit on some map ? "[Info :LethalExpansion(core)] Updating fire exit count from (1 - 1) to (1 - 1)"

[sudden wadi]

What interiors do you have, I have most with little issue

[wanton shale]

all of them i think, office, Scarlet, scoopy, scp, more interiors, pools rooms, mental hospital, minecraft stronghold

all of them work i could play on each one of them, but sometimes i get stuck on generating seed

[sudden wadi]

Do you have School? Not sleeps that released today

[wanton shale]

never heard about it but will check

[sudden wadi]

The only one that I don't have of these is minecraft interiors

So could be that

[wanton shale]

i tried without it and still happen :x

[sudden wadi]

School (not Musical Sleep's) has only one fire exit inside and I think that is causing the majority of the dev's issues but I didn't see him on here

[wanton shale]

what's musical sleeps ? an interiors ?

[sudden wadi]

Might be caused by another mod then, not interior

[sudden wadi]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1208505128383160400

The dev is Musical Sleep, he's in this chat I think

[wanton shale]

seems cool

[wanton shale]

the thing is that before adding new interiors (office, poolrooms, minecraft, and mental hospital) i never had tihs issue

[sudden wadi]

Is it a specific map that has the loading issue? All these work for me (minues minecraft I don't have it)

Also is your loading issue in solo or multiplayer?

[wanton shale]

not specific i tested on like 4 different moon, including vanilla ones

[wanton shale]

tested in solo

[frosty spade]

lol

[sudden wadi]

Are you using AC? If so try 1.1.1

[wanton shale]

Yea, AC 1.1.1 ?

[sudden wadi]

Yup saw someone recommend it in the LLLFixed chat. You could also try diabling AC and seeing if that fixes it. AC would my next guess for whats causing the issue

[wanton shale]

yea you might be right, thx for the tips will try that

also last question

having a weird anoying bug, everytime i open the terminal, i have to retype my favorite animal, is this a known bug or what?

[sudden wadi]

favorite animal?

[wanton shale]

you know like when the first time you play the game, type your favorite animal then your role dynamics in a team

[sudden wadi]

Is that a AC thing? I don't use AC 🙃

[wanton shale]

no its vanilla bro but you might have forget it lol

[sudden wadi]

LOL I have terminalFormatter so I don't think I see that

[wanton shale]

normally you would only see it the first time you start the game ever, i used to redo it when i delete my save folder, but normally when you do it once it stay "registered" until you delete the save folder again

now i have to redo it literally EVERY time i open the terminal im getting crazy lol

[sudden wadi]

not sure tbh

[wanton shale]

will search this on an other sub

thx for your time dude

[flint aurora]

is there way to properly rescale dungeon to be smaller? i mean it's too easy to get lost even on experiment

should i reduce these values?

or it's just min and max, and not scale?

[warped forum]

Why is Poolrooms doing this in the config when I enter the Facility on a moon with no poolrooms spawnrate? 🤔

[Info : PoolRooms] Client Player '0' Teleporting...
[Info : PoolRooms] Found Client Player! Broadcasting!
[Info : PoolRooms] Client Player '0' Teleporting...
[Info : PoolRooms] Found Client Player! Broadcasting!

[sudden kraken]

Hate to be asking if this is obvious or not, but has the incompatibility been ironed out with BetterSprayPaint? That was the only thing stopping us from playing with this dungeon

[worthy mist]

What's the incompatibility?

[sudden kraken]

I'm not entirely sure, but what happens is that if you have BSP and friends join, they get stuck in a black smokey screen upon loading in. There was a fix that other interior modders applied that fixes it, although I'm not exactly sure what they did, scoopy, major and knibbs can all provide the details

[hollow salmon]

Isn't spray painting vanilla itself isn't compatible with this interior?

[sudden kraken]

I've not played but there's a detail layer in the tiles that needs to be enabled for spray paint

Maybe not the tiles, i'm not familiar with game terminology with engines

[hollow salmon]

Yeah I'd love for them to prioritize enabling the spray paint for this interior

cause I get lost so easily in this, it's a whole maze

[shy storm]

Hey

Poolrooms are kinda large

like

way too large

even with these config settings

Im on Titan with these settings

shits massive

even with like a crew of 8 idk how we could clear this

is this just a me thing or does anyone else feel that way

[night pumice]

i think the rooms are big enough that it's less of a problem

and i think this size fits titan

[west island]

i agree, that's probably good for titan. if you want it to be smaller on easier moons you'll need to turn down mingenerationscale

[shy storm]

oh shit, does it allow values less than 1

[west island]

on latest version yeah

[shy storm]

PEAK

[night pumice]

"from 0.1 to 10" .-.

[shy storm]

mb gang, im so sick my eyes dont work

[cosmic hatch]

What exactly does this do

(Like what exactly does it mean. I get the idea that it uses its own config. Just what does that entail)

[fading cypress]

If set to false this config will be ignored and LLL's config will be used. So any changes you make in there have no effect, gotta do it in the LLL config.

[cosmic hatch]

Ah

Thank you

[fast vector]

Looks like we are slowly getting a 2nd variant of every interior type lmao. First school, now the Poolrooms, and in the far(?) future the sewers

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/theMenagerie/LiminalPools/
This just dropped which is why Masa mentioned it. Will be checking it out rq though if its not just a copy paste of this mod.

[primal cedar]

ok so wait.

[steel folio]

it doesnt work

i putted to guaranted generation still doesnt work

i was in the corrent moon

is it a scam

[primal cedar]

In the LLL config it says "the content creator said no editing here" but in the pool config it still has the use poolrooms config

bit confusing but alright

also yeah the guaranteed toggle doesnt work

[steel folio]

so thats a scam prob

fake mod

i guess

[primal cedar]

idk what you're talking about dude but ok

[worthy mist]

Are you talking about PoolRooms?

[random fog]

liminal pools

i think

[primal cedar]

ohhh wait

[worthy mist]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1216979536931979395

[primal cedar]

ok so guaranteed on either dont seem to work for me....

[random fog]

can you show your config

idk which mod you're talking about

but

show it

[primal cedar]

eh its not that big of a deal

its not like guarantee is that important when i can just set the spawnrate to 9999

[random fog]

guarantee doesnt work when you use a list of moons

thats why I wanted to see the config

[primal cedar]

ah then probably thats why

[night pumice]

no, just a default settings LLL issue.

[keen oxide]

?

[night pumice]

if you don't change things in the mod stuff breaks

like with all being vanilla only and other stuff

some where enabling guarantee is deprecated

[keen oxide]

No idea what your trying to say ngl

[worthy mist]

[night pumice]

tbf idrk if its like default stuff or things in some tutorial or outdated stuff

but it always shows up everywhere

[keen oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-cat-blinking-cat-funny-cat-funny-cat-blinking-gif-27202865

[shy storm]

I’ve read their message like 5 times, scrolled up read the conversation, waited an hour, came back, tried to reread, and I don’t have any clue

Wait

https://tenor.com/view/parasyte-lock-in-locked-in-serious-meme-gif-13189278796605253304

I understand

They are saying in most if not all interior config settings the option to “Guarantee interior spawn” does not work with the new versions of LLL and is an outdated config setting

I think

[night pumice]

yes

[worthy mist]

Works on my machine. 🤷

[shy storm]

We love that

[worthy mist]

Nevermind, it doesn't.

Guess I was just lucky all this time.

Or Liminal Pools one is borked.

Nevermind, it just doesn't work with list.

[teal pond]

Does this other Poolrooms work?

[night pumice]

go to their thread

[teal pond]

Ah ok

[tender pawn]

both should work, originally guaranteed spawn for the other one didn't work but now I've set them up to have similar spawn chances they seem fine

[lilac turtle]

how do we combine both interiors

[primal cedar]

combine?

[last swan]

I'm guessing they're talking about the other poolrooms interior that released recently

that one is a lot more focused on the liminal wide empty part, where this one's more focused on the pool aesthetic

[sudden wadi]

This is a planned feature on the LLL page I'm pretty sure. I was thinking this would be one of the perfect use cases for the feature

[primal cedar]

wait

combining interior tiles is a planned feature????

[sudden wadi]

Maybe I misunderstood

Generation Of Multiple Dungeons In A Single SelectableLevel

^this is what I'm talking about

[primal cedar]

that sounds like what you said so

that would go extremely hard

[sudden wadi]

Could be like two separate interiors technically

multiple dungeons could be taken literally

[west island]

two separate interiors is for sure planned, combined dungeons may be planned

[half thistle]

Technically already possible through tile injection in Lethal Lib I think (but I don't think anyone has actually done anything like that before)

So probably untested and would require fitting the tiles

Surprised no-one has made an expansion mod for the vanilla interiors

[sudden wadi]

Was thinking this the other day

[half thistle]

On paper it seems like a fairly simple thing

[last swan]

I was thinking this just the other day

[last swan]

Oh wait I didn't see this

Guess I'm a clone

But yeah that would be such a cool mod

[half thistle]

Someone aughta take up the mantle to make it

[serene spoke]

Wanted to report that we cant spray paint on anything in this interior

Walls and floor cant get painted

[fast vector]

Poolrooms are too wet

[sudden kraken]

I'm aware there is a detail layer that needs to be enabled for spray paint to work

[steady lily]

Second this.

[distant ridge]

it literally works, i use it with this mod too

I have march set to be 50/50 between the two

[plucky quartz]

hey is it this mod or the hosptial which dosent work with cull factory?

and if so do i just type in "poolflow" into the blacklist or is it named something else?

[quick holly]

I don't know of any CullFactory issues with this mod

I tested it in an early version soon after it released and it seemed to work just fine

[plucky quartz]

alright

do you know of any interiors that DON'T work with cull factory or nah

[quick holly]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1200144261333659729

[real spindle]

A fix for the spray paint is in, I have pushed version 0.1.19 🙂
Thanks to @fierce fog for this, we both have a pools addiction apparently 😉

[hollow salmon]

Yoo finally spray paint!! 😭🥹

The amount of times I get lost in this is very concerning so this is huge

[cerulean dune]

any fix for the comically large size yet?

[west island]

i feel like the size isn't really that big

and you can just turn it down in the config if you want

[cerulean dune]

it is as big as a titan facility on experimentation even after turning it down

[worthy mist]

Titan facility on Experimentation? What?

[normal quartz]

The word experimentation isn't capitalised; he means the verb not the noun.

And titan version of facility dungeon is bigger than on free moons, listed differently when data scraped but I think you know that.

[worthy mist]

None of the words are capitalised.

And it's not a verb in this case because they said on experimentation.

[worthy mist]

Not only is it bigger than vanilla interiors, its also harder to navigate.

[normal quartz]

on is an abbreviation for upon which is an abbreviation for upon doing. Titan is a proper noun because it's preceded with "a".
You should try speaking German, as it has multiple redundancies that helps avoid ambiguity since English seems to frustrate you.

[normal quartz]

Is this supposedly an intentional generation logic difference or just consequential of the size, it seems like a redundant claim, or are you just referring to the threat content within?

[worthy mist]

English doesn't frustrate me. What does is your English.

[worthy mist]

Help me regain some sanity. You meant Titan sized Facility on Experimentation, right?

[normal quartz]

If you think titan was an adjective due to lack of capitalisation then reasonably experimentation would be a verb. But like you I'm also sure it's Titan.
But let's see eh lol

[worthy mist]

No. You're the only one who would think that Titan and Experimentation could be anything but nouns in that context.

If you didn't know, moons dictate interior size.

[normal quartz]

I know. And I'm starting to think you're right.

[quick holly]

pretty sure they were just saying that the interior size on Experimentation was like a vanilla interior's size on Titan lol

[normal quartz]

Yeh

Changed my mind

[worthy mist]

That's what I gathered, but initially asked for clarification. Anyway, enough of that. I'll stop here.

[real spindle]

@here Regarding the dungeon size, the multiplier changes the length of the main path I believe, however there are numbers I control which define how many branches there are, how long they are, how long the main path should be at baseline. Do we all think these numbers should be halved?

[primal cedar]

yeah probably should be smaller

[cerulean dune]

yeah that's what i meant 👍

[real spindle]

It's funny, the numbers I started with were very small (before I realized) then I upped them to the facility numbers but that made the level HUGE so I reduced them and now I am reducing them again. Maybe the pieces in facility are generally smaller so larger paths are fine?

After building an interior of my own I have a lot of respect now for the work that went into Lethal companies facility interior. It would have taken Zeekerss a bit of time to get it working the way it does.

[keen oxide]

legit tho right? not to disrespect any custom dungeon dev but i think all the custom ones really show how much iteration time his dungeons have

the consistency is taken for granted i think

[real spindle]

Yep, 100%
Talented guy, zeekerss

[native badge]

great layout, lovin playing it, but i think the scrap spawns are a bit scarce in my opinion and it feels like the loading time on it is the highest out of all interios i got. great work nevertheless!

[real spindle]

Thank you 🙂
The scrap spawning should improve once I push the reduced dungeon size change and the loading time should be quicker.

[real spindle]

PoolRooms v0.1.20

[lilac turtle]

will you ever be adding new rooms

[ember lance]

I usually don't care for the overdone "liminal space" stuff but damn I can't lie you captured LC's style really well with this interior, it feels like it fits the game so well i can't get rid of it haha

[real spindle]

haha, thanks 🙂