Dantor's Mental Hospital [1.2.2]

[gloomy turret]

it seems to be rather difficult to get them to push me off and some just clip through me

[tropic lodge]

they're only meant to deal damage to you

[gloomy turret]

ah ok

[tropic lodge]

honestly i would not mind a nerf of slower speed in return for actually knocking you off

@dry rose if you're looking to make the moving obstacles a bit more believable/feel more in place, you could turn it into some sort of swinging electrified wire

[dry rose]

That was my first idea but animating a wire is way more difficult, and adding electric vfx too 💀

[sudden ibex]

what's that green bar that gets depleted near the health bar?

[dry rose]

Oh! It's a mod called DontBlink which simulates blinking like in the SCP game. It's such a gimmick but makes coilhead encounters WAY more fun. It also paired well with InsanityRemastered (shame it got deprecated)

[sudden ibex]

i still use that InsanityRemastered

dunno if someone will continue it

there is a forked version but.. not really a successor

[dry rose]

If only he fixed the sounds in the correct folder before leaving...

[sudden ibex]

they said they were going to

but didn't end up doing

i think they are fine having someone else continue the mod but dunno who would

it was a cool mod too

the hallucinations was cool

makes me jump a little when turning back and suddenly seeing one behind me

[broken stone]

A fork fixed that pretty sure just search up insanityremastared and the fork will appear

[dry rose]

Oh thank you! I wasn't aware of it, you made my night ☺️

[tawdry schooner]

wait, what? since when do interiors control scrap amount? Afaik they typically don't unless they manually spawn in additional scrap like more interiors does currently

Nice job on 1.2.0! 🎉

[craggy sparrow]

There is an error

This is what appears in the console when I use https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Dantor/Dantors_Mental_Hospital/ your mod with the map of this developer. I already wrote to him, said that most likely it won’t load from this dungeon with a mental hospital, but the map is cool and they can’t work together

maybe it's a matter of configs? although it didn’t load with standard ones

[hollow lynx]

They work just fine together.

Hospital is even set up to be guaranteed on PsychSanctum by default.

[storm geyser]

failed to spawn mushrooms

[hollow lynx]

The CompanyCreatures ones?

[craggy sparrow]

on other maps everything works well, it’s just that this is a combination of three mods: mushrooms - map - mental hospitel and they don’t bother me together

[hollow lynx]

The issue is with with CompanyCreatures either way. Not with PsychSanctum not working with Hospital as you initially implied.

[craggy sparrow]

I didn’t understand anything, but now it’s loaded

[high cypress]

So a few issues we ran into tonight @dry rose maybe you're aware of these we had it spawning on Rend: Loot generation being lower than it should be, Fire Exit was blocked for me once, a friend reported there was an invisible wall one game, performance issues during the game where Fire Exit was blocked 😦 I really love this interior so I hope these are planned to get fixed soon 💜 the loot spawn rates being lowered when we got the Hospital are probably the worst of the bugs lol

I wonder if the Fire Exit bug and invisible wall could be related to CullFactory and if so compatibility with CullFactory would be amazing

[rapid glacier]

yeah looks like scrap amount generation is using what is default for that moon, bypassing edited values from Lethal Quantities/LethalEditor. I've encountered this issue on Experimentation and Celest

[high cypress]

In my case we use MeteoMultiplier, so it was ignoring the scrap generation that sets per weather but even then with no weather the loot was way lower than you would get with Facility or Mansion layout

So something else is going on

It's like it forces the rng to be the lowest amount the moon can do maybe?

[rapid glacier]

Yeah I while I was testing earlier, I did the Scan command on terminal to see total scrap and when it's this interior, the scrap amount is lower than what I set it to be.

[high cypress]

Yeah it definitely ruins the experience, the interior is really good so I want the problems to be fixed 🥺

[fickle wagon]

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
MentalHospital.MentalHospitalDunGen+SteamValveHazard_Update_Patch.Prefix (SteamValveHazard __instance) (at <e5978b73b5a2421586ab7103c195bebc>:IL_0062)
(wrapper dynamic-method) SteamValveHazard.DMDSteamValveHazard::Update(SteamValveHazard)

[lone solar]

ive seen that valve hazard error too but not sure what broke
so i just keep goin lol

[fickle wagon]

i got it on etern with factory interior

[dry rose]

Hey I'm glad you like the interior so much!!
I wasn't aware of some of those issues so thank you, I will investigate them.
I don't think it's related to CullFactory at all, I might know what's happening 🤔
Do you happen to have any logs of those sessions and a screenshot of the invisible wall place?

[dry rose]

Uh 🤔 do you have the damage turned on at the config? Could you play normally even if that error showed up? There were steam valves?

[fickle wagon]

i have not changed the configs besides the spawnrate and moons for the dungeons

also i removed ac from my game

[high cypress]

I never ran into the invisible wall I was afk doing an ad break at that time my friend had experienced it and when I came back we had to leave lol

I can ask him to send the logs though probably

[dry rose]

Thanks for the feedback guys ❤️
The scrap issue has me puzzled but I think I know what may be happening

[high cypress]

Yay I hope you can get a fix pushed out soon ^^

[slow parcel]

Is the interior supposed to have two different versions of the main entrance now?

Because, maybe this is intended or not, but it feels like sometimes our main entrance bring us to what oculd be one of the Fire Exit preset rooms. If this is intended tho, this is actually pretty cool tbh, because it spices up the interior a bit more!

[storm geyser]

it has 3 iirc

[slow parcel]

We do have a slight issue though with walls quitting renders once we touch that new main entrance area.

[slow parcel]

3 main entrances, or fire exit rooms?

[storm geyser]

main entrance variations

[slow parcel]

Oh okay. If that's the case, then Masa is talking about the main entrance with the office right infront of you, and the patient rooms right next to it. Its a corridor.

[storm geyser]

i didn't get this one yet

[slow parcel]

That one seems to have slight Cullfactory issues but its minor. Can be very disorienting when you go into the interior and see no map at all until you take a step forwards tho

[slow parcel]

4 variants? 👀

[hollow lynx]

THREE

[storm geyser]

i only got the og and some different that lead to a single corridor

[dry rose]

There are 3 in total, yes, the og one and 2 more. Masa is talking about the one which is a long corridor with the reception room at the left and a room with a door next to it

[dry rose]

Uh? Would be useful to have that recorded

[storm geyser]

oh it might be the one i got then

what's the third

[slow parcel]

Yeah, will try to replicate it today. Masa didnt have medal on yesterday

[dry rose]

Reception room at the front with 2 sets of stairs at it's sides

[storm geyser]

oh well i got the same as masa

[slow parcel]

yippee

Thankfully the render problem on your interior isn't as bad as Sleep's School interior though. That one is in a parkour room 😭

Seems like today is cull the cull factory cull day o7

[dry rose]

Is there any rendering problem apart from the main entrance?

Btw talking about that, this is the other main entrance version. it just spawned while I was testing stuff x)

[storm geyser]

oo nice looking

damn does it feel bright without fulldark enabled

[dry rose]

Yeah and that's after lowering the brightness a bit 😅

[slow parcel]

Dunno. As a side topic tho, Masa does remember Masa's friend nagging about the fact that there were too many darn steam leaks

There shouldnt be too many render issues though. We did go decently deep into the dungeon (though we chimped out when a thumper appeared)

[dry rose]

Hahahah yes maybe I should lower the amount of valves a bit x)

[slow parcel]

A biiiit xD though thankfully it isnt as punishing as the factory valves

You can actually find the valve much faster than on the factory

Maybe thats because there might be only one valve location variant tho

[dry rose]

There are... 4 valve variants o.O
Well, most of them are pretty much at the same height now that I think about it so I guess it makes sense

[slow parcel]

Ohhh, yeah that makes sense lol

Put one on the ceiling

[dry rose]

There is one fairly high already, if I put it a bit higher and there is no prop to jump on it it's not possible to fix it hahaha

[slow parcel]

Fair xD

[dry rose]

Mmmm I cannot replicate the scrap issue, I'm increasing the amount of scrap generated with MeteoMultiplier and it works fine

[high cypress]

Very odd cus I remember we went to Rend a few times and the monitor showed a lower amount of loot had generated inside and my friends complained a couple times they couldn't find anything

[high cypress]

I stopped using FullDarkness because Office is already so much darker, same with ScarletDevilMansion

[high cypress]

Have you tried doing a comparison to when you get Mansion layout?

[dry rose]

Yeah 🤔

[high cypress]

Odd

That makes me think for sure it could be something going on when CullFactory Culls the interior then?

[dry rose]

I mean, I guess everything can be possible but I don't really think it's caused by a conflict with CullFactory.
I wish I had the logs to check it! 😭

[high cypress]

Yeah my friend sadly hasn't come online yet

I asked him for the logs

I only don't have the logs cus I was troubleshooting a mod earlier that kept causing my game to fail to reach the main menu sometimes, somehow it ended up being Lethal Doors 😭

[storm geyser]

how does lethal doors even break stuff what

[high cypress]

I just am curious about the game where we had a blocked fire exit and then performance issues when inside the interior during that run

[high cypress]

It probably was a conflict, or it's doing stuff it shouldn't right before reaching the main menu

The game would load to a black screen, you could move the mouse pointer but otherwise it would be completely unresponsive

[dry rose]

Performance issues too? 💀

[high cypress]

It would happen every 2-3 launches

[high cypress]

Yeah

[high cypress]

To make it more funny, I got it even when disabling intro skipper mods and just having GI auto select Online, it would go through the boot animation and then black screen

[storm geyser]

this way you won't have performance issues lun

[high cypress]

LOL

[median yacht]

lol is there a way to fix that?

[storm geyser]

skipping the intro isn't what breaks stuff, selecting Online is what breaks stuff

[dry rose]

CullFactory?

[median yacht]

yes

is that why?

[storm geyser]

yup

weird tho

[dry rose]

Its because CullFactory but it's my bad, I think I know how to fix it

It's strange that it doesn't happen with the original main entrance tho, maybe I moved something without noticing it

[median yacht]

yeah i miss that old entrance lol

i would get rid of CullFactory but its required now by the Scarlet Mansion

and I love both of these interiors lol

[dry rose]

Dont. I will fix this, no need to remove anything ☺️

[dry rose]

Hahah it can still spawn!

[median yacht]

oh really?? I did not know that lol and awesome! Thank you!!

[storm geyser]

btw dantor

[high cypress]

Lmao btw the glitchy CoilHead AI is too funny

https://clips.twitch.tv/ArtsyNimbleBurritoTwitchRaid-GeS4acHMv6bniNN7

😂

[storm geyser]

could there be a config to change the chances of the different spawn areas for being used?

[high cypress]

Idk if that was from CullFactory too lol, that was the game where we had no Fire Exit

[dry rose]

There are 3 different main entrance variations now, so every time you visit a moon you will get 1 out of 3

[median yacht]

hell yeah!

[dry rose]

I mean, I guess I can do it but it would take a considerable effort. Which one don't you like? x)

[dry rose]

Uh, funny, maybe he is a bit shy x)

[high cypress]

😂

He was trying so hard to Pathfind to us

[hollow lynx]

Even if it was not a requirement, it still worth keeping.

You can just put interiors that have issues in its blacklist.

[high cypress]

Which isn't needed cus Dantor is about to push a compat fix

But yeah sometimes it is

[hollow lynx]

Yes, was about to say that it's better to report issues like that to Zaggy or interior maker.

[high cypress]

I still wonder why it was lowering the amount of loot spawning in @dry rose, is it possible the compat issues were preventing some sections from loading in causing less loot?

[hollow lynx]

If you're talking about CullFactory, I don't think it actually stops rooms from physically appearing.

[high cypress]

Ahhhh

[hollow lynx]

Then again, I don't know how loot spawning is done.

Doubt it needs sightlines or player proximity.

Was there actually less loot, or was it just not visible?

[high cypress]

Less loot

The GI monitor would show it lol

[hollow lynx]

Right.

No idea then, unless it was some buggy version.

[high cypress]

Well hopefully the new update fixes it

🙂

I'll test solo after it's pushed

[dry rose]

No, i dont think so. My theory is that the fix that I still have from the old days before LLL is interferring with LethalQuantities or MeteoMultiplier somehow but I did try to increase the loot with Meteo and it worked so I'm a bit lost on that front

[high cypress]

I wonder if it's random when it does it then, or if it's cus I have mods that add scraps like LethalThings and AbandonedCompanyAssets

[dry rose]

Not sure since I don't have those but I have custom scrap from Vanilla Content Expansion and it works, Needy Cats and different moon related scraps like wesley's and it works :/

[high cypress]

Yeah well I guess we'll find out, could have just been some other mod causing chaos like how Lethal Doors was causing issues on launch

I'll check logs if it still happens

[high cypress]

I had one of my friends send logs btw, nothing from Dantor's

[dry rose]

Even if there are no errors sometimes there is useful info like scrap amounts described

[high cypress]

Yeah I looked and didn't even see that but I can double check

Let me try all logging and see what I can get

I also went ahead and set guaranteed spawn

[high cypress]

Hope the CullFactory fix is coming along well, if I get a borked interior during testing oh well 😅

Looks like SDM ignores the guaranteed setting so ☠️ lemme regen LLL config and see if I get somewhere

Oh nvm I see why

Dunno if this might provide anything useful, I noticed there was 1402 scrap on the monitor though and when I had the SDM layout before adjusting the config there was 2600

Both times stormy

It really could just be rng being rude

Lol

[tacit cape]

anything CullFactory does is purely visual, it can't affect AI or spawns

[high cypress]

👍

[tacit cape]

at least barring an error when loading the interior obviously, but any mod could do that

[high cypress]

Like that was also the same experience I had last night too, it felt like when we had the Hospital layout we had half the loot we normally have spawn

Why though idk

Unless game rng hates us

😂

[dry rose]

Can you share your CullFactory settings please?

[rapid glacier]

Experimentation when min scrap set: 16, max scrap: 24 (Default: 8-12)

per log said 21 scrap to spawn but it only succeeded at only spawning 9 scraps

[high cypress]

Yeah it seems to halve the scrap for some reason, sometimes more than halve it

[dry rose]

Yup, I see. Lunxara's log shows similar behaviour, it says 37 scraps but in reality it spawned 24. I will investigate it further

[rapid glacier]

my speculation is that it only respects moons default scrap amount

[dry rose]

Thanks guys, it's really helpful

[high cypress]

You're welcome 💜

Always good to help get the bugs squashed

[median yacht]

It's all default

[tacit cape]

I did change how tile bounds are determined in the last CullFactory patch, I wonder if that might have anything to do with this?

is that the starting tile?

[dry rose]

Yup

[dry rose]

What did you change?

[tacit cape]

I changed the way it determines the world bounds of a tile when that tile uses automatically-calculated bounds

basically, DunGen isn't consistent about how it deals with scaling the object with the Tile component

I just took a look in-game and didn't notice any issues though, might be helpful to get a seed from @median yacht if they still have the logs

[median yacht]

i don't have any logs now sorry 😦

[dry rose]

Yeah that's what I'm noticing too. I got the same entrance as him and I didnt get that weird culling

[tacit cape]

hmmm

new seed, just got this

looks like this tile's bounds are allowing tiles to collide?

[dry rose]

Interesting

[tacit cape]

seed is 31996771 on Exp with 018e495e-99c9-7421-0287-6aa39b641810

lemme try and free cam this with the tile bounds visualized

[dry rose]

Could be that the upstairs doorways are causing issues because they are facing inwards the tile?

[tacit cape]

ohh

yeah that definitely isn't something DunGen is equipped for afaik

hmm

what are the tile bounds?

oh, interesting, I guess you do have the bounds overridden

it's odd that it's appearing offset out of the tile in CullFactory then

[dry rose]

Hmmm interesting since it actually creates paths normally

[dry rose]

Not on that tile tho. I had it on at the corridor tiles

[tacit cape]

it shows as overridden in UnityExplorer

for the entrance tile

wait

oh maybe it's looking at the wrong tile, one sec

ah, yeah, I was

I forgot that it doesn't know which tile it's in unless I go in the side room

lemme see if I can explain how this works then

to create the tile bounds, it does the following:

1. collect all the renderers in the tile
2. encapsulate them all in an axis-aligned bounding box
3. collect all the doors in the tile
4. based on their direction, modify one plane of that axis-aligned bounding box to be aligned to that door

so when you have a door facing inward on the edge of the tile, that causes it to set the bounds of the side that door would normally occupy to that opposite wall

in this case, it may be causing the size to go negative or something, I'm not sure exactly why it shifts it in the opposite direction otherwise

essentially, I think what you'd really want to do here is create three tiles for the starting area

that way, the starting tile's bounds don't extend upward to where they block the door connections above them, and the stairs still do prevent tiles from spawning in their upper portions

and the starting tile's bounds should be generated automatically in the correct way

[dry rose]

Nah, that's not how it works. I can just move the top floor doorways and problem solved tho

[tacit cape]

hmm? what doesn't work what way?

[dry rose]

I cannot divide the entrance into three different tiles

[tacit cape]

can't you create a set of rooms that connect to those door sockets that only includes those upward stairways?

it doesn't have to be part of the starting tile, it just has to be the only option for those connections

it's the same effect

[dry rose]

Oh, true 🤔

[tacit cape]

also, if you want to look at the code I was referring to [here](#1205741904881516595 message), it's in the TileProxy(GameObject, bool, Vector3) constructor, near the end

it calls CalculateProxyBounds() and then CondenseBounds()

[vast cypress]

just checking, but this isnt supposed to be a part of the generation right?

im thinking maybe another mod is causing this

[cyan hazel]

The mechanical door?

[spiral leaf]

pretty sure the secure door is supposed to be there

[vast cypress]

oh okay

thanks

i was worried another mod was messing with dungeon generation

glad its not 😌

[dry rose]

⚠️ ATTENTION EMPLOYEES A NEW UPDATE HAS ARRIVED ⚠️

Update 1.2.1

• Tweaked Fire Exit chances to prevent them not spawning sometimes (hopefully)
• Removed a fix that could be causing issues when other mods modify the scrap amount generated (needs more testing)
• Reduced max amount of steam valves present at the map
• Fixed a log error related to the steam valves when the interior is not the Hospital
• Solved an issue with CullFactory's mod culling everything at some entrances
• Adjusted some decorations
• Updated README with new pictures and a google form link to report issues

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Dantor/Dantors_Mental_Hospital/

[rapid glacier]

Manual updated to check real quick.

Scrap amount still does not follow LethalQuantities and LethalLevelLoader modified scrap amount from my 2 quick separate tests.

LogOutput1.log:
-LethalQuantities: 16-24 scrap (Only 12 scraps spawn, 6 failed)

LogOutput2.log
-LethalLevelLoader config: 13-15 scrap 
(Only 4 scraps spawn? 9 failed, probably weird stuff happening there since min default is 8)

[dry rose]

I see on both cases the log shows stuff like:

[Info   : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: V-type engine
[Info   : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: V-type engine
[Info   : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Large axle
[Info   : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Metal sheet
[Info   : Unity Log] No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type: Large axle```
That correlates to the amount of scrap lost. It's weird since there are definitely tiles with those spawn points assigned
Share me your mod pack code pls, I want to test it too

[rapid glacier]

Oh I was able to generate 15 scrap on Experimentation (Higher than default but still failed 4 per log) but 19 was supposed to spawn.

Here's the profile code: 018e4a5f-e2de-c780-78dd-98e739dde843 (Includes Starlancer moons, specifically Experimentation and Solace have edited scrap amount)

so I guess some scrap spawn points are just failing, rather than the interior ignoring modified scrap amount.

[dry rose]

Yep. This was an issue with interiors since... Forever, but I thought I got fixed by LLL time ago so I wonder if there is something more causing that (Is this interior the only one with this issue? 🤔 )

[rapid glacier]

as far as I tested with my bigger pack, only this one and maybe LC office? (Fails less afaik)

[dry rose]

I wonder if I can just slap more spawn points to every tile and call it a day 😅

[rapid glacier]

that might work 😆

[cyan hazel]

Could this also be the issue with @crisp night Bunker? It's so hard to find loot on that interior

[dry rose]

Check the log and look for lines saying "No tiles containing a scrap spawn with item type:"
But I feel like the Bunker issue is just the size which makes the loot too diluted

[rapid glacier]

Bunker spawns the correct amount of scrap, it's just the place is huge

[cyan hazel]

I'll have to check next time I play, You're probably right in that it's a size issue

For the record my group hasn't struggled with loot that much with the hospital

[rapid glacier]

actually correction, bunker actually adds to scrap amount total, higher than what you set it to be (example, you set to 24 max on a moon but it can be 28 max when its bunker)

[dry rose]

Maybe Major did it to lighten the size issue? 🤔

[cyan hazel]

But I also don't have the hospital spawn on early maps at all due to them being small. Offense and up are the vanilla maps that have it for me. And all my modded ones. We never felt like we were short on loot

never checked logs or anything tho

[rapid glacier]

no idea, but I do know more scraps spawns when its bunker than normal, probably to help circumvent the large interior size issue 🤔

[rapid glacier]

problem is, I have like 6+ players on my rare lethal night, so I do these adjustments alot via LethalQuantities 😅

[dry rose]

Yeah, me either, on my runs it spawns the correct amount but I also don't increase the amount of scraps using LQ so... Could be just me not setting up enough spawn points at the rooms in case someone raises the amount

[cyan hazel]

Is the issue only when adjusting the scrap amounts?

I haven't touched those

most of the time we play with 4-6 people

[rapid glacier]

the issue is scrap failing to spawn in due to invalid spawn tiles, not so much setting new min/max scrap amount, we narrow that down at least

so even without LQ, let's say... Rend (Default 18-26), it may only spawn 17 scraps when it chosen 22 scrap to spawn, those 5 scraps failed to spawn into invalid tiles, from what I understand.

[dry rose]

It could be related. If a spawn point can only spawn certain amount of scrap and all of it it's occupied and there aren't more spawn points free... Extra scrap won't spawn.
At least that's my current theory

[cyan hazel]

More spawn points then?

[rapid glacier]

hmm I see 🤔

[dry rose]

That's what I'm gonna try hahah

[rapid glacier]

We appreciate all your hard work, Dantor! 🫡

[dry rose]

Nah, thank you guys for helping me testing

[dry rose]

Bug solved! I was actually right at my first guess with my scrap fix not working but not for the reason I thought. I'm gonna push a little patch to fix it right now

[rapid glacier]

oh nice! what was the exact issue?

[dry rose]

Custom interiors had a little patch to fix the scrap generation because the way the game treats custom dungeons it's weird and it fails to spawn certain stuff. The fix was working fine until I renamed the interior from HospitalFlow to Mental Hospital, which caused the fix to not apply

In the next days I will explore a different solution since (I think) LLL can manage the spawn points without needing this fix if I use the correct stuff, but for now this will work just fine

I'm so happy there is now an "Interiors" category at Thunderstore ❤️

[glass yew]

how did you rename it

[dry rose]

As you told me. I assigned a string to dungeonDisplayName on my extendeddungeonflow

[glass yew]

yeah that shouldn't affect anything 🤔

[dry rose]

It was a misunderstanding of how things work from my side. Since I changed the display name I though it would affect dungeonGenerator.Generator.DungeonFlow.name too, which was the variable that SCP used to implement it's fix time ago

Now in retrospective that was a silly thought but I have a hamster for a brain so sometimes it trips on it's wheel 🤪

[glass yew]

ah

[dry rose]

Dantor's Mental Hospital [1.2.2]

[glass yew]

yeee displayname is just kinda as it says, for display stuff

having an external name seperated from internal name allows you to stylise it differently and can be modified by other stuff eg. translation mods

[dry rose]

Yeah, now I see it crystal clear and makes all the sense but I guess that day I wasn't too inspired hahah
All good

Now that you are here tho, @glass yew. If I refer in Unity Editor to the GeneralItemClass directly instead of GeneralItemClassDUMMY to spawn scrap, would it work? I remember reading a fragment of a convo between you and Badham talking about that and I think you said using GeneralItemClass should work since you updated LLL but you weren't sure so better keep the fix at the .dll just in case
Do I remember wrong?

[glass yew]

i tried to fix it but i don't do enough dungeon development to actually test it

so i had no clue if it was working

lol

[dry rose]

Guess I will have to test it still x)

[high cypress]

I still feel like loot is spread too far apart, and the interior sometimes feels too large, like it doesn't feel like it generates at Vanilla size on Vow for example it feels massive on Vow lol

[crisp night]

mine is a different issue but i am fixing it next update

[silver stream]

I found the problem with my scrap spawn is I was using as a spawn point

It's a spawn area

Each room only needs one scrap spawn

Then make the radius like 15 to 30 depending on size

[pure mulch]

Try lowering the DynamicScaleValue to something like 0.6 and test if that size works for you, if it doesnt keep lowering it

[high cypress]

Will do

[tropic lodge]

@dry rose currently in the doorway of one of the moving obstacle rooms the collision is broken

[silver stream]

Record a vid for him

[dry rose]

Yeah, a video, screenshot or something would help a lot 😅
What do you mean by the collision is broken tho?

[tropic lodge]

you can just walk through it

specifically the one with the two moving things

i don't know if the same issue applies with other variants

[dry rose]

It does. I will investigate it, thanks

[slow parcel]

Seems like someone did it instead of Masa (sorry, forgot to test it yesterday) but that was the exact issue Masa had yeah

[dry rose]

Should be fixed now, let me know if it didnt x)

[slow parcel]

Will do!

[runic vale]

had a brick stone thingy spawn in the middle of a staircase making it not navigateable

also some invisible steam giving me damage

i could hear it but not see it

[dry rose]

The brick stone thingy is basically the main entrance from the other side, on rare times it happens to clip through the dungeon, I plan to remove it tho since it's not seen from the inside.

The invisible steam... either the steam particles were invisible due to some weird desync or... Most possible: The valve was on a different floor but you were too close to the triggering area of effect hence it damaged you. I will see what can I do about it

[lone solar]

mental hospital having ghost sounds nice lol

[slow parcel]

Havent seen any weird things happening so far!

[high cypress]

Btw I ended up changing the steam color back to the vanilla one cus the gas leak texture is still white, even with the fog being green so it looked so out of place 😅

[timber panther]

sorry if it's wrong to ask here but how do I adjust the weight of this interior (or any other in fact) in modded and vanilla moons?

[lone solar]

Its in the config

[timber panther]

dantor's config?

[barren timber]

MentalHospital.cfg

under HospitalMoonsList, with Moon@Weight format

[timber panther]

oh alright thanks 👍

[warm python]

Dantor, did u use majors guide to make your interior? Or did u do it ur own way? Do u have a simplified version if ur mod with thr unity project without any tilesets

[dry rose]

I kinda made a mesh because there was no tutorial when I started, so at some points it's the same as Major's guide but convoluted because I started with the old Lethal Company template before grabbing the properly ripped project with Nonnom's tool

I dont really get your question tho, my project without the tilesets it's just the Lethal Company template :/

[noble solar]

seems the ceiling is missing collision in that spot

[dry rose]

Was it a broken ceiling?

[noble solar]

no im pretty sure it was solid

[hollow lynx]

Are these supposed to be emissive?

[gloomy turret]

hello I have a small request - could you please make it so the doors don't push you out the way when you open/close them?

I don't know the inner workings but something about turning off collision when its open

[dry rose]

Uh... Unless I managed to break it somehow there is already no collision when you open them

[dry rose]

Kinda. I left them as they came by default, looks a bit weird tho

[safe locust]

Mission failed successfully

[gloomy turret]

ah ok I'll double check

nope

still collision

at least the office door has it

[twin night]

is loot supposed to be really rare on this map?

[dry rose]

What about the others?

[dry rose]

Not really, can you send me your logs?

[gloomy turret]

yes they also have collision

[dry rose]

Alright good to know!

[storm geyser]

@dry rose had a brick wall clipping through the stairs and making just a huge invisible wall over half the staircase

[dry rose]

Ah, those damn windows -.-
Thanks I will fix it on the next update

[slow parcel]

stupid window, you make dantor look bad!

https://tenor.com/view/courage-courage-the-cowardly-dog-gif-7197837

[slow parcel]

Err.. getting Mental Hospital errors spammed in the logs and a borked game thats eternally stuck in trying to get a seed going.

Stack trace:
MentalHospital.MentalHospitalDunGen+SteamValveHazard_Update_Patch.Prefix (SteamValveHazard __instance) (at <797b98f88ddf49499a0c2afde0019254>:IL_002F)
(wrapper dynamic-method) SteamValveHazard.DMD<SteamValveHazard::Update>(SteamValveHazard)```

^ Being spammed

Figured to point it out though Masa's modpack is having a lot of errors in general rn so unsure what's actually going on atm. Mental Hospital error has been a common occurence tho in the last 6 attempts

[dry rose]

Can you share the modpack? With the configs as it caused the issue

[sinful patrol]

#1205741904881516595 message

[lost birch]

bean_yipee

[spiral leaf]

Do you happen to run Bozoros in your pack? Disabling it after the new update remedied those issues for me

[dry rose]

Does Bozoros affects the steam valves somehow?

[zenith tree]

is there a good moon that will go with this?

[storm geyser]

also dantor this happened again but this time on a corridor :c

[spiral leaf]

Not sure, while looking for an answer I learned an update just dropped that fixed a pretty large oopsie involving LLL so I'll be sure to let you know if that resolved it

[slow parcel]

Masa will later. May have found the issue, though Masa is tired as hecc rn. Long day @.@

[slow parcel]

Oh did it? Masa thought it might be LLL maybe

[spiral leaf]

Today's patch for Bozoros seems to have fixed it though!

[dry rose]

Yeah I think it happens when there is a corridor next to another corridor with a window. I gotta work on those windows

[wooden loom]

@dry rose now that this interior is finished due you plan to make other interior mods?

[storm geyser]

not finished until windows are fixe >:c

[high cypress]

How about the invisible wall we ran into on that one staircase?

Lmfao

[storm geyser]

same thing

[storm geyser]

^

[high cypress]

@dry rose bls fix

[dry rose]

Yes 🫡

[high cypress]

I love your interior so much this needs fixed 💜

[dry rose]

Not finished yet. There is no apparatus yet and I have plans for more rooms, but answering your question: I don't think I will make another interior, at least not in the short term 😅

[high cypress]

How close is the Apparatus room to being completed btw?

[dry rose]

Hopefully not too long

[wooden loom]

man the amount of detail your putting into this interior is crazy!

[gaunt spindle]

i think you can see outside the window above the main entrance door into out of bounds

[gloomy turret]

yep also experienced that

[tacit cape]

just had a mimic walk straight through some shelves in an L-shaped room and kill me

rip me

[severe kernel]

@dry rose
This Mental Hospital was lacking Pins.......

Also....

With my newfound power, I would like to see you stop me from tasting the walls now! MUHAHAHAHA

[dry rose]

Oh!! thank you so much
I will make some walls extra tasty as an appreciation

[severe kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/sparkle-eyes-eevvee-amazed-gif-12566593

[ivory perch]

Hello, I think there is a bug with the mod right now. When i pull the lever to go on a planet, the game get stuck in the phase when it show you the seed number. I tested the mod alone and it works so it's definitively a conflict with another mod of may modpack but since I use 80 mods, i dont really want to try one by one :)
Is there already known conflicts with other mods ?

[ivory perch]

Nvm i found the problematic mod, it was "LethalLevelLoaderFixed" which i dont need anymore.

[tall latch]

The last sentence of this is so real.

[dry rose]

I'm seeing more reports of the game getting stuck on loading, did LLL or any relevant mod got updated recently?
If someone gets stuck on seed please share the log

[tawdry schooner]

fyi might be related to csync when it's about getting stuck after pulling lever but no generating/seed overlay displays
edit: causing issues when you have 'multiple mods' like LLL and LLLFixed

[dry rose]

🤔 I see. The interior spawned wasn't the hospital, it was the vanilla map but looks like the steam valves are causing issues. Do you have the green fog and/or damage enabled? Are you using Diversity too?

[hollow lynx]

Disabled. No Diversity.

[dry rose]

Alright, thank you!

[neat lance]

got spammed with these :O it happened when i pulled the lever and after the "random seed" message appear

im playing in 49v, havent updated yet

[neat lance]

^^^ it seems like one of the mod updates made this happen, will do a check for which later

[foggy oyster]

dantor how do you make 2 entrances to an interior

[dry rose]

Thre are 3!
Hmmm basically I created an empty tile at the start, connected to the rest of the dungeon with a special doorway and assigned the 3 entrance tiles that special doorway, then I reduced the spawn chances of the entrances to 0.01
Since the only way to generate the dungeon is to use that special doorway it's guaranteed to spawn at least 1 entrance, but since the chances are really low it's very unlikely to spawn more entrance tiles randomly

[foggy oyster]

so theres a chance to have a random entrance tile randomly in the map?

[dry rose]

Technically yes, but the chances are so low it would be really really difficult to get another entrance randomly

[foggy oyster]

now i want to see this happen

[woeful moth]

Does disallowing repeats on the entrance tiles not work with that method for some reason?

[foggy oyster]

yeah why wouldnt you just make the chances zero instead of having a really low chance?

[dry rose]

Probably I already did that too, can't remember. But it's 3 separate tiles, even if the repeating is disabled there is a slim chance to spawn a different unused one

[dry rose]

Then the dungeon doesn't generate x)

[foggy oyster]

ohhh

i get it

because you have to have at least one

if chances are zero theres no entrance

makes sense

[woeful moth]

Ahh fair. My suggestion to Rosie was to put all the different tile variations in one tile and group them under a local prop set. Guaranteed one entrance, guaranteed to pick only one variation

At the same time the slim chance of another entrance spawning could be a fun quirk of the interior

[dry rose]

Tried that but it doesn't work well. Even if you put the doorways into a group under a local prop set the dungeon tries to use the doorways from an unused variation resulting on paths connected to the void or potentially a dungeon with a main entrance connected to nothing at all

[woeful moth]

Weird, that seems counterintuitive lol

[dry rose]

Yeah right? It limits me a lot, I don't like it

[woeful moth]

If I ever figure out some other way to go about it I'll let ya know :3

[dry rose]

I would love it ❤️

[dry rose]

Does it happen EVERY round or just sometimes?

[neat lance]

every round, also i do not have hospital assigned to experimentation (so you cant get hospital interior here)

i forgot to check which mod conflict was causing that, ill check later :P

[dry rose]

Appreciated

[neat lance]

few hours tho im outside atm :(

[neat lance]

did some testing, apparently it's not one of those mods :P

[neat lance]

seems to be the same error as this one

currently binary search to find the mods (oof...)

and in one run i got this instead of the spam, the game is still stuck in the "seed" screen tho:

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
MentalHospital.MentalHospitalDunGen+RoundManagerPatch.SetItemSpawnPoints (DunGen.RuntimeDungeon& ___dungeonGenerator) (at <797b98f88ddf49499a0c2afde0019254>:IL_0006)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::SpawnScrapInLevel>(RoundManager)
RoundManager.GeneratedFloorPostProcessing () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0009)
RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__115.MoveNext () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_013C)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

however i reset the save file and the spam is back

[dry rose]

Yeah, the thing is that I cannot reproduce it on my end. And there is people who get the error sometimes but not every time, I'm a bit lost

[neat lance]

do you want my modpack?

[dry rose]

Yeah

I will try it later

[neat lance]

018eb94f-7167-6584-1836-8ba9fb8b20e0

tell me if you are on thunderstore, which you'll need the file instead :P

[dry rose]

I use thunderstore, yes

[neat lance]

oki, a moment

you should have

• 110 mods
• head to emblem config and check if it's modified, to make sure the configs did got exported (should see a bunch of string in LoadingText, one of them is "Howdy! I'm Flowey the Flower!"), there's more config that's modified but if emblem one works then other should be fine

[severe kernel]

@dry rose
Interesting steam valve error. Stopped interior generation and hung on seed load.

Also, failure to generate Hospital dungeon interior outright.

[17:39:14.3909599] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
MentalHospital.MentalHospitalDunGen+RoundManagerPatch.SetItemSpawnPoints (DunGen.RuntimeDungeon& ___dungeonGenerator) (at <797b98f88ddf49499a0c2afde0019254>:IL_0006)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::SpawnScrapInLevel(RoundManager)
RoundManager.GeneratedFloorPostProcessing () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0009)
RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__115.MoveNext () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_013C)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

[17:39:14.3909599] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
MentalHospital.MentalHospitalDunGen+RoundManagerPatch.SetItemSpawnPoints (DunGen.RuntimeDungeon& ___dungeonGenerator) (at <797b98f88ddf49499a0c2afde0019254>:IL_0006)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::SpawnScrapInLevel(RoundManager)
RoundManager.GeneratedFloorPostProcessing () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0009)
RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__115.MoveNext () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_013C)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

[severe kernel]

I can reliably reproduce this error while generating Hospital on Experimentation.

Modpack code.
018eb9a7-a7e6-ee9f-075b-185ff54eb192

[dry rose]

No idea which mod could be causing it, right?

[severe kernel]

sadly not at all no.

I will disable it for the initial release of SC and then I will help debug

I just need to get this darn pack out the door. 😛

Was doing my final tests yesterday and somehow we never got the hospital gen. It is 100% broken in my pack.

[dry rose]

What's SC?

[severe kernel]

Shattered Company. My modpack.

It will be releasing today if I can stop being picky.

[dry rose]

Oh, right

[untold light]

help

[neat lance]

@severe kernel @untold light do you mind sending the mod list over so i can cross compare which mod is causing problem? i think it's one of the bigger titles hmm

[severe kernel]

#1205741904881516595 message

[severe kernel]

@dry roseI think i know the problem. i think a mod broke LLL and somehow a fragment of Mental Hospital gets loaded and broke. I have to redo all that I have been doing to figure it out and trace it back.

[untold light]

yeah i think i fixed

i just disabled LLL and kept LLL Fixedd and it worked

[neat lance]

ooooo

[dry rose]

So something has an incompatibility with LLL and it somehow it affects the hospital? 🤔
I wonder if I can fix that...

[tacit cape]

I wonder if materials like these decals on the wall can be rendered in the normal pass instead of the transparent pass? (Assuming that's what's going on here)

I think that should make the fog stop rendering behind them

alternatively, if they need to have alpha blending, I would imagine there's a way to render in both passes, using alpha testing for the main pass

[tacit cape]

huh, I guess looking at it in UnityExplorer it seems like the surface type isn't set to transparent, so I'm not sure why those seem to ignore the fog

[inland lotus]

Is anyone else struggling to find any loot in the hospital? Whenever it spawns theres close to nothing in it. From my experiences

[high cypress]

You're probably having it spawn on moons that spawn low amounts of loot like Vow for example

[inland lotus]

Ah ok

[high cypress]

I recommend lowering the size of the interior too the default is a bit too large

I recommend setting it to 0.5

[inland lotus]

Alrighty thank you

[silver stream]

It's also entirely possible that the person who made the interior didn't set up scrap spawn correctly though we couldn't know unless someone asked directly

[high cypress]

It is set up correctly Dantor fixed this a while ago

[warm python]

i realized something, Just dont place custom interiors on vanilla moons, or elsa u will hardly ever find loot

[silver stream]

My interior mod I made works fine on vanilla moons

[carmine raft]

scrap on the interior is notoriously hard to get perfected unfortunately

[silver stream]

I've gotten pretty close myself

[dry rose]

I don't know the overall consensus but to me, as a player, I dont have issues finding good amounts of scrap into this interior, I can play it on Offense, March and beyond just fine

[viscid flame]

Have terminal doors been added?

[dry rose]

Yep, and breaker box and steam valves too

[viscid flame]

Oh hell yeah

Did you make it green?

I hadn't played in 2 months due to FFVII Rebirth sucking my life

[dry rose]

Yeah and it can also damage players if they stay in for too long, both things can be disabled tho

[viscid flame]

Okay perfect 🙏

[cyan hazel]

I have no issues on your interior

[maiden yacht]

i am stuck at showing seed

018ec96b-1069-2356-cb8a-1ed83e5ed991

link to mod pack

happens on experimental and i don't have the map set for experimental

[dry rose]

I guess you mean Experimentation 🤔
Could be coincidence but I think most if not all the people reporting that issue was on Experimentation

[empty lintel]

are turrets supposed to spawn in entrance room?

I noticed it started to happen on some maps ever since I moved from LLL to LLLF

[tacit cape]

if you get stuck on a seed you should note the seed down so someone can reproduce it

[vocal kestrel]

pst

@dry rose

i need some help

[dry rose]

There is always a chance even on vanilla games. It's just bad luck

[dry rose]

How may I help you?

[vocal kestrel]

Im writing descriptions on all the interiors for my expansion pack, and my brain is overheating at this point, i couldnt come up with a 3rd feature point

any suggestions for that final bullet point

[dry rose]

Vanilla factory feels or 3 different main entrances are two of my favourite features of this map, for example

[maiden yacht]

doesn't matter happens every time

[maiden yacht]

weird considering i have map on experimentation disabled

[tacit cape]

I see, your phrasing made it sound like you had encountered it only once

it's important to make that clear so that the developer doesn't have to waste time with "what if"s

[gaunt spindle]

multiple entrances maybe

[warm python]

trying to create a vanilla interior is hard for me, i am trying my best tho

i gotta add a apperatus, breaker box, and doors

[calm ferry]

Hey, I just got a bug if i add the mod to the modpack, if i add it the terminal just break, nothing appear or work, just the 30Credits and thats it

Nvm, Its the lethal level loader that get installed with it

[dry rose]

Maybe I should remove LLL from the dependences and use LLLFixed instead?

[merry bone]

bad idea, LLL will be updated soon

[lost birch]

lllfixed (the newer one) got taken down tonight

cause of the similarities to the og lllfixed

[dry rose]

Tbh I'm a bit lost about the current situation so I dunno what are you guys using

[lost birch]

rn there's nothing im pretty sure

except lethallevelloader beta which is currently in testing

so just wait for lll to update

anything else you dont need to care about im pretty sure, the v50 patch that was taken down was pretty much the same as the v49 version so i suppose it would just run your interior w/o issues

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1228961224126103632

[exotic salmon]

Don't stress about lll right now @glass yew is cooking, the guy above is mostly correct batby could inform you better though

[timber panther]

yeah just wait till og LLL gets updated (soon enough)

[merry bone]

i dont know if the mod works well with this version of LLL, but i'll give it a shot

is there a way to make the interior less enormous ? on experimentation, mental hospital can be VERY large

other interiors like poolrooms scale correctly

[dry rose]

You can adjust it's size on the mod config

[merry bone]

i know that, but even with small values the interior is big

i'll show you

[swift kraken]

Noticing this as well on v50, the interior is absurdly huge even just on experimentation

[merry bone]

for example, i changed the DynamicScaleValue from 0.8 to 0.2 and even like that the dungeon is enormous

both screens were taken on experimentation

so

1. i configured the interior poorly
   or 2. the new version of LLL breaks the interior

[cyan hazel]

So I've been experimenting with the scaler while helping with Black Mesa. It seems to be inverted to what the config says, try .9 or 1

mind you this is in v49

[high cypress]

The interior has been fine for me

If you wanna fix the size though

I recommend this

[merry bone]

gonna have to test both configs tomorrow

wait

[merry bone]

this wont work

[high cypress]

It works for me, the Interior is the same size as it was on V49 for me on Eve

[merry bone]

my dynamicscalevalue is even lower

[high cypress]

🤔

It could be because Rosie's Moons have yet to update to V50's changes though

[merry bone]

youre using LLL of the fixed version ?

[high cypress]

Dantor probably just needs to update the interior to account for V50's stuff, it's likely not a LLL issue

[high cypress]

Normal LLL

Fixed is deprecated don't use.

[merry bone]

weird, rosie's moons wont work for me at all

even if i use normal LLL

[high cypress]

They work for me

🤷‍♀️

[merry bone]

strange

[high cypress]

But don't worry

Rosie is pushing an update soon

[merry bone]

yep saw that

[pale verge]

danny's menthol hospital

[glass phoenix]

Can confirm it's bugged, I have the same config as @high cypress and the interior is still gigantic

I just ran trough the interior for 1min and 30 sec and didn't find a single scrap

[high cypress]

Yeah it's cus it needs updated for V50's stuff probs

[high cypress]

@dry rose I hope you come back to modding soon and update the interior to fix the size being so huge

[honest hemlock]

Yeah I notice I'm having trouble finding scrap as well, I'm also using identical settings to Lun's

[dry rose]

Looks like LLL got updated and it should fix the size issues. Did anyone test it yet?

[glass phoenix]

Just ran for 2 minutes, only found a single scrap

On Eve

with these settings

Also, this interior is nuking my fps

[dry rose]

Partially fault of the size

[dry rose]

I don't know what size is Eve by default

[glass phoenix]

Here's Poolrooms with Eve

Yours is definitely more gigantic compared to that

[dry rose]

Indeed

[glass phoenix]

So is it something that you can fix on your side?

[dry rose]

Most probably, but if the bug is on LLL side I would prefer for him to fix it so we all get an universal solution instead of a little patch on my side that could mess with LLL in the future if it gets fixed

Would be cool to mess with the config before that, in case it's just a matter of tweaking numbers

[tacit cape]

do you have MapTileSize hooked up yet? I would argue that's a better value to adjust than the clamping

[high cypress]

It's not a bug on LLL's side, your interior is using outdated logic for the scaling settings so they don't work

[dry rose]

Oh but there was a bug that allegedly got fixed in the 1.2.2, could be that the logic is outdated on top of that, yes.

[dry rose]

No but sounds interesting, I have to look into it yet

[high cypress]

Yeah that was a different bug, but yeah the config settings you use according to Zaggy no longer work cus that was changed in V50

[tacit cape]

oh, I doubt Dantor hasn't adjusted to that yet

it was a combination of a change over to properties in LLL and some commented code that got fixed in LLL 1.2.2 (iirc, maybe the prev version)

[dry rose]

I didn't update my mod in a few weeks so it must be that. I'm taking a break from modding until I find the will to continue

[tacit cape]

ah, okay, never mind then

it should just be a matter of assigning your config values to different fields in ExtendedDungeonFlow though

MapTileSize is also a new field in there that you could add at the same time

(no rush though, I know how that feels)

[warm python]

how do we change it?

[tacit cape]

from the coder's perspective, you just have to change the names that you assign your config's values to

if you look at the ExtendedDungeonFlow class, you should be able to see (if your LLL is up to date) that some of the fields are marked obsolete, there are equivalent properties that are now available

in developer mode, it prints messages telling you what to change, iirc

[frozen merlin]

hiii so uh I have those settings and yet the interior do not spawn, any ideas why ?

[twin sphinx]

the mod is currently bugged with V50, the size of the hospital can't be changed but maybe thats also a bug

[cyan hazel]

Until this mod is updated, do everything in the LLL config instead @frozen merlin @twin sphinx

[twin sphinx]

Ight

[frozen merlin]

aight thanks !

[blissful umbra]

Sweet!

[warm python]

alr ty

[merry bone]

even when setuping the config in LLL, the interior wont spawn at all. idk what im doing wrong tho

[glass phoenix]

Did you enable content configuration for that interior?

[merry bone]

yes

[glass phoenix]

Hmm, I use Mental Hosptial own config. Not sure if it actually works with LLL config

[merry bone]

i dont know, i just saw this post

[glass phoenix]

Sizing is not working either way so this interior is not really enjoyable atm

[cyan hazel]

I see it in my game using the LLL config, do you have the option set to "all" instead of "list" in the mental hospital config?

[merry bone]

theres no "all" or "list" option in the mental hospital config, can you clarify ?

[cyan hazel]

Sorry I have it confused with another, here's what my config looks like

[glass phoenix]

You can do all@99999

or any other value you'd like

[merry bone]

it worked, thanks

[fiery sandal]

@dry rose Not sure how soon youll be able respond, but apparently my interior is breaking such like yours did on Rend w/ one main entrance and fire exit being 'blocked'

Its not consistent apparently

[dry rose]

How did you set up the Fire Exits on Unity?

[fiery sandal]

That SpawnEntranceBTrigger has a SpawnSyncedObj to spawn the entrance B trigger prefab that vanilla uses

& the FireExitDoor obj has a global prop same as vanilla

everything else is just meshes and mesh renderers

oh and that light ofc

[dry rose]

1-1, right? Batby said you should let it like that but I slapped a 1-99 and called it a day. As far as I know it works so... Give it a try I guess

[fiery sandal]

Oh in the dungeon flow?

rn its a 1-1

But why would that break the main entrance?

& LLL should override that based on the number of exits anyway

[dry rose]

Oh, my comment was about the fire exits. Tbh I don't remember what was the issue with my main entrance and how did I fix it... Maybe I messed up the entrance tile chances and thats why sometimes it was broken (because it didn't spawn) I can't recall it

[fiery sandal]

Got it

It might be the moon anyway

I dont think I gave the fire exits different ids

[fiery sandal]

Which the bugged moon was summit, one of mine

Im going to do some testing

[vocal kestrel]

Dantor

how is it going

[fiery sandal]

Anddd rend apparently

[twin sphinx]

is the sizing bug fixed?

[dry rose]

not yet

[twin sphinx]

ah

thats oki

aside from that though

the interior works?

[merry bone]

you can fix it by configuring the values in LLL

instead of the mental hospital config

[high cypress]

Does that work? I thought it wouldn't because the config for this mod uses outdated stuff and didn't support allowing LLL configuration

[cyan hazel]

Using the LLL config should work. It's what I do in my pack

Dantor just is using the outdated variables in his config, but using the LLL config should set them correctly

[high cypress]

Okay that's good, especially since Dantor isn't interested in updating the mod to remove the deprecated entries, Scoopy's is in the same situation

[cyan hazel]

He'll update just give him some time. Using LLL will work in the meantime

[high cypress]

Ye ik he plans to update

Scoopy's definitely won't though since Scoopy left the modding scene

[cyan hazel]

Yeah that's unfortunate, i wonder if he'd be willing to pass the project to someone else

[glass phoenix]

Scoopy said he'd come back after v50 tho

Fixing things and adding new stuff

So there is a possibility

[twin sphinx]

ah neat

[glass phoenix]

Can I know what size values you set it to?

[hybrid maple]

yes it works

[twin sphinx]

Sweet

[wispy lichen]

So doing this fixes no loot spawns?

[dry rose]

The loot spawns just fine, the issue is that the map is so big it's difficult to find any scrap cause it's too spreaded, so... Yeah, reducing the size should help

[wispy lichen]

Alright cool thanks dawg

[cyan hazel]

I just copied the default values from Dantors config

The scale value is the thing not being automatically applied. It should be 0.8 in the LLL config

[honest hemlock]

Can vouch regarding the loot issue, loot very much is possible to find, just not good quantities due to size

[merry bone]

@dry rose might add that the interior will override the max loot value on a moon

i had 18 items on experimentation, which can have up to 12 items

[dry rose]

That sounds strange since I don't touch any of that at all. Are you sure you are not using any mod that change the amount of scrap? Like those weather mods that increase the amount based on which weather are you in?

[merry bone]

impossible, its a modpack made to test interiors and moons

[dry rose]

Any idea if Zeekers changed the max amount on v50?

[merry bone]

doesnt seems like he did

[tawdry schooner]

You can use TerminalFormatter to get a detailed list of what scrap spawned.
Keep in mind that bee hives are added on top. I don't know if Mental Hospital has an Apparatus at this point but that would also come on top. On experimentation potentially also shotguns from nutcrackers.
Tbf 18 still seems too much tho..
I'm not sure if MoreInteriors spawns in more scrap in other interiors.. I do know that it spawns in additional loot in its own bunker interior with the latest version which is why I'm running version 2.0.0 I think. Again TerminalFormatter scan command could help identify that

[merry bone]

the mod does that now ?

really nice

[tawdry schooner]

yup. it's a config but it's enabled by default

[meager shell]

Does anyone know if using lethal quantities for dungeon size will work similarly to this?

[tawdry schooner]

yup, best way to do it imo

[meager shell]

Ok cool I may just not touch LLL and keep using quantities

Everything seems to be working okay between the two

[untold light]

wait, so do i use lll's config for this interior, or do i use the one with the mod itself?

[dry rose]

Use LLL's config, the one in the mod itself doesnt work

[untold light]

alright cool

[untold light]

can you make the base size smaller so that even the lowest lll setting for this interior isn't like an endless maze?

I set it to the lowest size and it's still WAY too big

[tacit cape]

what are your settings to achieve the lowest size?

[untold light]

as low as the numbers in LLL go idk

[tacit cape]

the lerp rate option doesn't work the way the config's description claims, so it's possible your config was having no effect

[left raptor]

Wait, this mod's configs don't work?

Is this an issue with all other LLL dependant mods?

[dry rose]

The size part its the only thing it's not working, the rest of the config file should be working as intended. It's only an issue with this mod since I didnt update it to v50 yet

[left raptor]

Ah, got it

[high cypress]

Do you plan to update it soon? Even if you don't plan to add Spike trap support and stuff you should still probably remove the deprecated config stuff lol

[dry rose]

I plan to update it but I don't know when, I'm not in a good spot right now to deal with modding so I'm taking care of myself first

[high cypress]

Yeah your own health always comes first c;

[untold light]

ah ok take care if yourself and your health first :)

[knotty bay]

Hey, I just had a bug where there was an invisible wall next to stairs
I went on the side of it, went downstairs but couldn't go back up T-T

[median yacht]

this working ok with v50 and latest LLL?

[keen saddle]

yes

[clever gorge]

Wasn't there a moon this interior woked really well with ?

[quiet pike]

Yeah, only thing not working well is modification configs for the interior sizes

[inner fiber]

Tolian hospital moon

Psych I think

[clever gorge]

Very nice!

[knotty bay]

I changed the scale of the mod with lethal quantities
Did it break because of that ?
I put it at 1.5

[safe locust]

You want to change the size scaler to 0.8 in the LLL config

[knotty bay]

Ok, I'll try
What about Lethal Quantities ? Do I remove the config for this interior ?

[keen saddle]

if you are already using LQ skip any LLL config as LQ is way more powerful. 1.5 is very big for this interior, but it also depends on the map size. i prefer 0.5 factory size for 1.5 map size.

[knotty bay]

Ok thanks
I thought I just use 1,5 for every interiors like vanilla ones

[keen saddle]

im pretty sure vanilla factory size multiplier is 1.0

[knotty bay]

On Lethal Quantities they're at 1,5 by default
Thought it was the default setting

[high cypress]

@dry rose if you would be interested in it, @delicate marsh has shown interest in wanting to update your interior for V50, I recently had to remove it from my pack due to us discovering it seems your interior has an asset that may be corrupted that fails to load sometimes and causes the game to crash when pressing Online. Badham was unable to produce this with a smaller mod pack so it seems like it becomes apparent in larger packs such as the one I use with my group 🥺 I figured I would let you know ^^

[dry rose]

Which asset is it?

[high cypress]

Maybe you can recognize it from the stack trace DiFFoZ found in the crash dump

It's very undescriptive unfortunately and it took us forever to narrow down that it was your interior XD

Was lots of Trial and Error

[buoyant tundra]

When/if you come back to this mod, would you consider adding more environmental stuffs to the interior to make it more unnerving to explore? Something like heart monitor SFX and rare dying/zombified patients quietly gasping and groans in pain?

[dry rose]

Would be cool

[scarlet agate]

I heard you play with the config on this?

Like you get the "tile failure" bug where it never finishes loading?

specificially with the min/max and lerp settings for the size?

@dry rose I wanna humour you

This is 1000x size

[dry rose]

I can hear your computer screaming in agony

[scarlet agate]

It really not that laggy tbh

the normal facility was probably the largest I got and that was smooth somehow

[scarlet agate]

how beeg is this interior usually?

I walked around with some friends for ~10 mins and only found 3/19 scrap

[cyan hazel]

Did you set the clamp to 0.8? That's not being applied automatically on the current version. You have to do it yourself in LLL or CentralConfig

[scarlet agate]

oh?

is that what happens if you don't clamp it?

[cyan hazel]

Yeah it becomes huge

[scarlet agate]

and that is the scaler yeah?

[cyan hazel]

Yup!

His default is not being applied since he is using an outdated field

[scarlet agate]

ic

[weary fable]

Sorry to ask, how do you do that in LLL exactly?

[cyan hazel]

Change the DungeonSizeScaler from 1 to 0.8. It should be the only size option for mental hospital with 1

[weary fable]

This one?

[cyan hazel]

Yup!

[weary fable]

Thanks a lot for the help

Do you think i could do this with scoopy's dungeons?

[cyan hazel]

You can change the size with any interior. It'll just be trial and error to get the size how you like it

[icy prairie]

this could be a sick way to play if we turned timers off or increased them drastically

[scarlet agate]

What is the smallest this dungeon can be?

or is there too many tiles that MUST spawn for it to be small

[warm python]

Plz

Come back

[high cypress]

@dry rose Please let @delicate marsh take on updating the interior 😦 I miss this mod and really need it to come back honestly

[twin sphinx]

Agreed

This mod was absolutely baller bro

[warm python]

Fr

[twin sphinx]

If I ever make an interior

I want it to purely have Nutcrackers and Barbers

I wanna make mine sorta batshit insane, probably free and really good loot

DarkFedora's Interior

Or maybe

a set of interiors that can be enabled and disabled at will

Wait

does monster spawns depend on moons or interiors

[distant gale]

The moon decides monster spawns

[twin sphinx]

FUCK

I'd have to make

a moon

[distant gale]

Not as hard as it sounds tbh

[twin sphinx]

Oh?

Can you explain the process?

Im curious

[distant gale]

I mean I've made one and am porting another currently. The biggest thing is just learning Unity, but I learned by doing

AudioKnight has a really good moon making tutorial to start you off

Making a good moon isn't super easy but just listen to feedback and put in the time and you'll get there

[twin sphinx]

Alrighty

Thank you so much Nikki!

Is there somewhere this tutorial is located?

[distant gale]

https://youtu.be/dnZG5464ZcE?si=NjV5eHNj0XykV8j4

[high cypress]

Got to play with Starlancer today, Starlancer is a treat lol

[twin sphinx]

I forgot to ask but is there any way to add custom assets as well? like Spongebob's house for example

[warm python]

yea

any 3d model

[twin sphinx]

But how though

Just, insert a downloaded model in the unity moon project

[warm python]

Yep

[final glen]

Maow
Not sure if this is just me, the setting of LLL seem to not giving the correct result for this interior, me have set only the Psych Sanctum moon to this interior specifically, and the result, the other interior in me pack seem to spawn in instead, or worst, just back to vanilla factory. Other interiors with the same setting with the moon me have set seem to work just fine. (´・ω・｀)

[swift kraken]

I think this interior is just entirely broken at this point

I think in v50 you could get it to generate with some hassle, but I couldn't get it to work at all in 56

[final glen]

Alright, so might be some other interior mods that not working as well, me just got another 2 mods that got some weird result, such as Pool Room and Secret Labs.

These 2 seem to able to spawn on some vanilla moons (´・ω・｀)　Hm..

[cyan hazel]

What are you setting the weight to? 99999?

[final glen]

Yes, 9999 actually,

And for some reason, this hospital doesn't like when set to "dine" moon, it will turn dine into Factory instead.

[cyan hazel]

If you are using LLL to set the weights, the Mental Hospital config (not the LLL one) needs to look like this

[final glen]

Will give a try (´・ω・｀)

[untold blade]

Nico helo

[final glen]

(´・ω・｀)

[buoyant tundra]

Mental Hospital just broke for me. The modpack I was using was working like 5 hours ago >.> but now every time I load it up the console freezes at Mental Hospital and crashes.

I probably updated something that makes it incompatible, but I think until/if this gets updated it'll be an interior I've gotta put down. 😦 was one of the few interiors I feel could work with vanilla focused modpacks too. Lost bunker and this in just a couple weeks.

[distant gale]

If I had to guess, it's likely the LLL update

[full sail]

multiplayer or solo?

[buoyant tundra]

Back then I was testing solo, but when I came back I couldn't even load the game. The console just froze on Mental Hospital and crashed.

[full sail]

May be hit or miss, I'll also keep my eye on it. I just loaded in solo, but I'll be playing multi with it tomorrow.

[tender prawn]

le dot

[hollow sinew]

Any chance of this ever getting updated or someone else taking over?

[untold blade]

I mean this seems like it's in a good place.

My only issue with it is that it's very hard to find scrap because it's too spread out.

[vast cypress]

there are mods to adjust the spread/size of dungeons
not entirely sure what they are or how to use them, but i’ve seen other people on this server talk about it

[lament stag]

If I edit the moons list, will the default rarity be turned off?

[lone solar]

yes

[lament stag]

So if main dungeons are 300, does this mean the values for the 3 vanilla interiors are equal to 300 total?

Like example:
87 weight
155 weight
and 142 weight equals 300?

[graceful island]

Wdym by "if the main dungeons are 300"

[graceful island]

Oh I see

[safe locust]

No

Whatever the main interior is for the moon uses 300

[graceful island]

It depends on the moon itself

[lament stag]

so the one with highest odds

[safe locust]

I think you can find the values on the wiki

[lament stag]

Only odds

[graceful island]

In LLL you'll see the Facility, Mines and Mansion interior weights per moon, or yeah on the wiki
But if you set Dantor's weight to 300 you'll potentially have ~40% chance I'd guesstimate

[lament stag]

without knowing the total weight of all interiors' total, I won't be able to find out how much weight will do

[safe locust]

I mean if the largest number is 300 you can kinda work the rest out

[lament stag]

Reminder what LLL is again

[graceful island]

So with this, experimentation is set to 300 in LLL afaik
So 300 = 98.68% for Experimentation only though

[graceful island]

LethalLevelLoader
It's how the moons are loaded (usually) when playing modded

[lament stag]

Oh neat. I'll look into that thanks

[safe locust]

You’d already have it if you have Dantor’s

[graceful island]

Yeah pretty much every custom moon/interior uses LLL

[safe locust]

Every interior does

And nowadays 99% of moons do

[graceful island]

And that'll pre-generate the default weight values for each moon

[lone solar]

these are the vanilla dungeons

[graceful island]

Do you have the weights on hand too? 😂
May as well bombard Bonbon with a tidal wave of information lol

[safe locust]

iirc LLL leaves the Factory variants unused

[glass yew]

if the vanilla ones are requesting them then they are being used

[graceful island]

It uses 3Exits for March and leaves the XL Facility blank yeah

[glass yew]

(or any mod ig but)

[safe locust]

Ahh

[lament stag]

So I could just technically take whatever the value of all the moons are and stack em together then

[graceful island]

Not really
You're better off looking at it per-moon

[glass yew]

yeah total is every weight combined

oh ya what kyozo said tho

[safe locust]

Yeah every moon has diff numbers

[lone solar]

or u can launch the game, type "simulate moonnamehere" without the "" and see the whole value

in the terminal

[safe locust]

Yeah that’s the easiest

[glass yew]

very glad i thought of that feature 😄

[safe locust]

I love it haha

[lament stag]

Goodie. Thanks lads

[graceful island]

So if Exp has 300 for Facility, 150 for Mineshaft and 3 for Mansion it'll have 66% chance for Facility, 33% chance for Mineshaft and 0.66% chance for Mansion

Add MentalHospital at 300 and everything changes according to the new total

[glass yew]

yup

[graceful island]

Go Batby 📣🙌

[glass yew]

everything changing is why people would want to use a weight based solution like this 😄

[graceful island]

Wdym?

[glass yew]

because then interiors don't need the context of what other interiors are doing

(all of this applies to items and enemies too)

weighted randomisation allows you to just give a rough ballpark of how rare you want it to be in the overall selection without needing to know what's already in the pool

[graceful island]

I mean sure, but they could be arbitrarily given any kind of value that takes that out of account completely
E.g. overall % given for each interior chance instead of a weighted "ticket" kinda system

But that's just not how LC is coded in the first place

[glass yew]

you can't give overall %

because what if 5 interiors ask for 40%

[graceful island]

Oh I guess so 😂

This is why I could never be a coder

I'd fuck shit up for sure

[glass yew]

everyone fucks up

[graceful island]

Then you have a total percentage of 200%, and it can just take from that pool of 200, almost as though there are 200 "tickets" in a pool for it to choose from

There, simples (/s)

[glass yew]

and that's weights 😄

[graceful island]

Hahahah I know

[glass yew]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-gif-10487976503085012594

[lament stag]

Last question, whats the diff from these?

[graceful island]

Variants on the default Facility, Level1Flow is the normal facility, 3Exits has 3 exits (specific to March in vanilla, as it has multiple fire exits on the surface, but pretty sure it still works when utilised in modded - but will often put the fire exits all clumped together on the interior) and ExtraLarge is scaled to be extra large - unsure if this is actually utilised in vanilla but according to LLL it's unused

[lament stag]

Thanks

[unborn egret]

does this beaut of a interior still work on current version?

[graceful island]

Sure does!

[unborn egret]

ahhhh yessssss

[lament stag]

Got 108 on titan, which is about 18,6%. However, after playing for a good while with friends nothing has happened.

[lone solar]

wdym by nothing

[lament stag]

We havent gotten the map at all

[lone solar]

check the config and up the chance

[lament stag]

3rd time and we finally got it

[dry rose]

Hey guys 😄

[high cypress]

Holy shit you've returned from the dead

@hardy citrus

[hardy citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-returned-avatar-avatar-returned-air-bender-when-the-world-needed-him-most-he-returned-gif-15429387738187107040

[deft juniper]

Dantor?

[lone solar]

[hardy citrus]

so... we back then? like fr?

[safe locust]

[sinful patrol]

is it really happening? 🥹

[acoustic trout]

Unreal....

[knotty rose]

Dude. Yes.

[mental abyss]

Omg

No way

Finally we'll be able to play the psychological asylum in v69 ?

[dry rose]

So happy to see so many familiar faces ☺️

[dry rose]

I'm working on a patch so I hope so!

[mental abyss]

Yay !

[hardy citrus]

Rubber Rooms is nice, but it leans on present horror. Mental Hospital's eerie but standard nature is super nice on its own way

cannot wait to return

so long as that issue with the game crashing when selecting Online or LAN is fixed

[dry rose]

I didnt have a chance to try rubber rooms yet but the other wesley interiors are super cool and original so I'm sure that one is going to be great too

[dry rose]

I think I will need some help with that one. Seems a bit elusive, I have never got it and neither any of my friends. I read it's some corrupted file on the assetbundle but thats weird. Some logs with the error would be appreciated

[tacit cape]

one thing I would suggest keeping an eye out for to fix in this new update, if you have any textures that appear to be showing up through fog more visibly than they should, make sure that their materials are opaque/alpha clipped where possible, or switch their shader to decal (doesn't need a projector renderer) so that the fog affects them as it should

I noticed that happens a lot with the decals at the tops of walls, as well as some other things iirc

glad to see you back!

[hearty sundial]

another big issue is the dungeon size and scarcity of scrap in this interior. I really love the aesthetic, but sometimes even on moons with a small size multiplier, one might not find any loot at all...

[dry rose]

Yep, that's what I'm currently fixing, I finally implemented the MapTileSize thingy and it seems to be reducing the map size by a lot, its gonna be configurable but I'm trying to find a nice sweetspot for the default value

(Also I'm adding an Apparatus Room, finally)

[knotty rose]

Ooohhh niceee

also quick question, how big is the interior in terms of file size? You could follow some of S1ckboy’s advice to cut down a bit if you haven’t done so already #dev-moons message

[dry rose]

⚠️ NEW UPDATE! ⚠️

• Reduced map size across all moons and added new config to control its size, if you were using LLL to control the map size it is recommended to disable the custom content on LLL to check the new base value unless you know what you are doing
• Added the first version of the Apparatus Room
• Added ambience lights to all main entrances for better clarity inside the map
• Reworked some scrap spawn points (I will iterate more on this)
• Reduced the amount of max steam valves in a map
• Fixed an issue that would crash the game on landing if there were no steam valves spawned on the map
• Fixed an issue that would spawn steam valves behind some walls

(I also recommend deleting the old config file and let it regenerate a new one)

[knotty rose]

Oouughh my STARSSSS

It’s a WONDERFUL day

[hardy citrus]

@high cypress

[hollow lynx]

we are so back

[slow thorn]

omg, where have you been haha, glad to see you back

[deft juniper]

[mental abyss]

Apparatus room hell yeah !

[twilit ledge]

Welcome back goat, excited to try this one for the first time!

[high cypress]

I also would assume the boot up crash is also fixed 🥺

[sinful patrol]

IS IT ALREADY OUT? 😮

holy fucking shit

[mental abyss]

Bro is cooking very hard

[dry rose]

Unsure, I would need people to test if it's still happening and if so I will need logs. It works fine on my end everytime but 🤷‍♂️

[dry rose]

Yeah, I have been working silently for a bit x)

[hardy citrus]

hmm, is using the mod's config required for spawn weights?

[dry rose]

Not sure if I follow you. The mod comes with default spawning chances, if you are using other mod to tweak the chances I'm not sure how it would behave

[hardy citrus]

i just know there's been syncing issues in the past when devs rely on their own configs for spawn rather than LLL's

[dry rose]

As long as everyone uses the same config values it should be fine

[hardy citrus]

we shall see. i wouldnt mind being wrong

i'll test later using LLL

[honest hemlock]

Spicy to see this shamble from its dusty grave

[slow thorn]

check dms

[normal beacon]

wer are so back

the goat has returned

[mental abyss]

wer

[deft juniper]

wer

[honest hemlock]

wer

[twin ibex]

can we use LLL

[dry rose]

Unsure, try and tell me

[glass yew]

@dry rose congrats on the update!

Someone can correct me if im mistaken but enemy weight config should be fine if it desynced cuz iirc only the host actually uses it

i suppose other mods relying on it to be correct might be a little off though

make sure you check out ladyraph's DunGen Plus if you haven't, some cool stuff in that

[dry rose]

I checked it the other day when we talked 😉

[glass yew]

Also not on PC so can’t check but just make sure you also have a license associated with the project that aligns with however you feel 😄

[high cypress]

I also hope you manage to downsize the interior sometime soon, 53.5mb is a lot and there's some guides now on optimization ^^

[glass yew]

53.5mb is not a lot

you don't make things

[warm python]

5 seconds in someone already asking to reduce the file size 🤣

[scarlet cypress]

Entered, got some loots, died, skill issued myself out of the mod. Very very good design, environments and the placement of objects looks very realistic, overall great.

I rate it I wish i had better navigation skills/10

[high cypress]

Oh I never said it was a lot not at all, just we have interiors now that are around 15 mb lol

and iirc Dantors reuses a lot of Vanilla assets, so the reused Vanilla stuff could be optimized. Custom assets probably not

[scarlet cypress]

50mb is still not a lot ya know

[high cypress]

Yeah I agree, and I wasn't complaining or saying it was a bad size

[scarlet cypress]

As someone who uses limited data packages i don't mind it unless it's like 200mb.

[high cypress]

I just feel like it could be around the same size as Slaughterhouse, cus Slaughterhouse is literally an interior using assets from a diff game for example and Nikki got it to be almost 30mb. 53.5mb is completely fine I was just trying to say I imagine there's some assets that could be optimized eventually

[glass yew]

no you we're saying it was a bad size

[high cypress]

Wasn't intended to come off that way

[glass yew]

I just feel like it could be around the same size as Slaughterhouse
I say this objectively and respectfully but these feelings are honestly pretty worthless

you can't feel optimization

[scarlet cypress]

No need for perfection here really it's serving it's purpose pretty well.

[high cypress]

Yeah

[scarlet cypress]

As a gt 1030 user the frames weren't bad either and if the custom scraps take more space, then the realistic look and placement of it means it's space well taken

[high cypress]

Does it have custom scraps now?

Anyways I apologize for poorly wording things, I've just seen some interior devs go nuts with making their sizes really small lol wasn't trying to say 53.5mb is a bad size it just feels like a lot compared to how small a lot of the new interiors we're getting nowadays are. But I also have to remember it's one of the og interiors as well

[scarlet cypress]

Look at the bigger picture

10 mb is low, 50 is still considered low, it's under 100mb even above it i can consider low

[high cypress]

I'm happy to see Dantors finally return

[dry rose]

No it doesnt 🤔

[high cypress]

I didn't think so based on the changelog Big Nose just kinda confused me

XD

[dry rose]

I'm having flashbacks of when the bundle was around 250Mb 💀

[high cypress]

Oh man it used to be that large?

[dry rose]

Some spawn points are "realistic" in the sense they spawn on top of shelves or counters but many others are pretty random and scattered all around, you must have luck x)

[high cypress]

Yeah compared to that it's hella optimized now then

LOL

[dry rose]

On the first months, yeah hahah

[scarlet cypress]

I don't mean scrap spawn, i mean the look of the place is realistic

Placement of shelves and other objects

I won't say this as a criticism, but compared to vanilla interiors it's little over designed but that doesn't make it worse, it just makes my stupid ass scan everything thrice because of those moments when your scanner doesn't scan something for some reason, and that im rather new and need the scanner to tell me what is scrap and what's not

[dry rose]

😂 Nah, it was mainly my fault not knowing even the most basic stuff. I'm still a newbie but I got some help

[dry rose]

Aaah I see! Oh yes, I spent a LOT of time on that, my favourite stuff about making interiors tbh

[scarlet cypress]

Time well spent

It looks amazing

[dry rose]

I can see how on the first runs it can be confusing not knowing what's scrap and whats decoration, it will get better, I promise

[scarlet cypress]

Anymore interior mods coming from you?

[dry rose]

I have one in mind but I'm not sure if I will get on it, for now no. I have plans for this one yet

[scarlet cypress]

Dang really

Good luck then

My first attempt was ruined because of a lethalthings mod's scrap teleporting me back inside and i rage deleted the mod.

Since then I've configured a lot of the game's aspects to fit solo play so im gonna get back into this mod again.

Also, favorite room of the map: Manager's Office.

Feels so safe and comfy, with a hint of approach doom as i know i cannot staying in there forever.

[dry rose]

Lmao, that teleporting trap is a curse

Oh really? I would have never imagined anyone having that one as their favourite, mine is probably the Surgery room

[scarlet cypress]

No it was a globe item

[scarlet cypress]

Either I didn't get in deep enough, or saw it and forgot