Wesley's Moons/Interiors/Weathers/Variants/General/Mrov

[gentle grotto]

Is Atlantica

Gone?

[mild steppe]

ngl I'm glad it's updated-

So I can use the moons I liked or fit in my modpack

[gentle grotto]

NOOOOOOOOO ITS STILL HERE

[granite lily]

uh
Toys

[blissful light]

A new interior? I'm shocked O:

[mental sage]

i see

etern?

[dawn sluice]

I second this

I saw it early

:3

[forest coral]

You better get to releasing that new moon bud!!!

[wet elm]

since r2modman is slow as hell wesleys moons still hasn't updated to v50 on there

[gentle grotto]

duh

[dawn sluice]

Manual install maybe

?

[cinder flame]

everyone is shocked

[blissful light]

I can't wait for people to yell at me to tell them how to get to it

[dawn sluice]

Huh

[wet elm]

tbh I thought this was finna release next month💀

[forest coral]

We got Tolian and Starlancer in here now where is @viscid drum?

Lol

[verbal hearth]

does the moon pack include the interior too or do we have to install that separately

[gaunt tangle]

well. as the biggest fan of these moons, i must say.
LET'S. FUCKING. GO!!!

[dawn sluice]

No generic referenced 😔

Crying

[gaunt tangle]

v50 unreleased, fren

[dawn sluice]

Eventually

(Like a week)

(((Don’t hold me to that)))

[gaunt tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-drum-playing-drum-gif-12638875

[waxen lion]

https://tenor.com/view/super-smash-bros-ultimate-everyone-is-here-gif-17099121

[dawn sluice]

Spoilers smh

[vapid lichen]

seperate download

[waxen lion]

I don't even know where I'm gonna put that interior on 😭

[mild steppe]

same-

And idk what moon to download to my modpack lol-

[cinder flame]

oops😅

[forest coral]

You could have just marked it as a spoiler image XD

[wet elm]

Toystore on etern maybe because nutcrackers....

[edgy sentinel]

@granite lily is it just me or can I not find the config for the interior in your main moon modpack.

[granite lily]

It's its own mod

[cinder flame]

@granite lily If I'm not mistaken, it's no longer necessary to use a dll for the interior

[gentle grotto]

pst

[edgy sentinel]

oh, ok

[granite lily]

oh?

[gentle grotto]

did you make your interior with cullfactory in mind

I found a slight quirk

Im on the edge of a tile rn

and If i peek a little bit more

[cinder flame]

LLL can now determine

[granite lily]

oh lmao what

[cinder flame]

use extendedmod

[granite lily]

Ah
I'll have a look at that later
I need sleep lmao

[gentle grotto]

love how it hasnt even been 30 minutes and Im already bug testing

quirk number 2 btw, idk if its possible but this open should turn to close for the chests

[solar scroll]

The issue is most likely caused by your tilebounds or your door portals being off

@uneven cave New interior just dropped 😛

[gentle grotto]

omg

the download

for r2

is long as shit for some reason

[solar scroll]

Oh god you're right💀

[gentle grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/diavolo-requiem-wha-jojo-jojos-bizzare-adventure-gif-15144068

How large is the mod...

[forest coral]

It started off slow but then sped up pretty quickly

[solar scroll]

Mine slowly went to 12% then finished instantly?.. XD

[gentle grotto]

lmao same

[forest coral]

It's faster than Tolian's pack

[gentle grotto]

💀

[waxen lion]

It took me 7 seconds

lmao

[cobalt vessel]

can't wait to make a 50 moon pack

so that all my friends hate me

[wet elm]

r2modman finally updated Weslesy moons to the latest v50 lll port

[hoary rock]

if i do that my 16gb friends die irl

[snow locust]

lets ggooooooooooooooooo

[hoary rock]

just disintegrate

[snow locust]

wait so wes what moons did u have your interior in mind for?

[forest coral]

He went to bed

[mild steppe]

ngl I wanna use these moons but I don't wanna go out of my way to tweak what custom monsters and scrap spawns on said moons-

[snow locust]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[cobalt vessel]

I only have 16gb of ram and I survive so idk

I'm more worried about my friends on literal potato pcs

[cobalt vessel]

it's worth it bro, trust me these are the best modded moons

[mild steppe]

I know they are I think I just don't like them-

mostly I used these guys alot when I first played modded LC-

But I think I just got bored of them or just like a certain few

[cobalt vessel]

haven't played much modded v50, but now that these are out, I'm bouta cook a peak modpack for my friends

[acoustic plank]

Thank god I already did most of the work....

[mild steppe]

but I think it's just me not too exicted about them

[cobalt vessel]

unfortunate I guess

[cinder flame]

good luck

[acoustic plank]

😄

[snow slate]

performance is amazing now

[thorn relic]

what is the cosmocos watcher?

is it just the watcher from the diversity mod?

[snow locust]

custom enemy/hazard, different from diversity

[spark lotus]

Ah brilliant. I stop Lethal Company and I return to great news. Guess I'm working overtime for the Company lol

[thorn relic]

which moons add new enemies?

[snow locust]

Cosmocos

[thorn relic]

oh only cosmocos aight

[snow locust]

i think

[cobalt vessel]

devastation too I think

[snow locust]

u mean desolation?

[snow locust]

yo what moons u think will fit with it

[gentle grotto]

idfk

hold on

let me start the process of knowing

[snow locust]

lol

lookin at the toystore pics on thunderstore..

honestly it could pass for a house as well as a store

[dry kiln]

That's actually what I thought it was at first

[snow locust]

so ig any moon that is either a mansion/house exterior or urban/office exterior could fit well

thank u wes, interior was not expected, but honestly would rather have this than new moons

[wet elm]

I haven't been able to get the interior working in the configs

[balmy elm]

I got it to show up guaranteed in Experimentation with Experimentation:99999 in "InteriorDungeonMoonsList"

[gentle grotto]

toystore is actually my savior

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-toji-jujutsu-kaisen-gojo-satoru-satoru-gojo-gif-8335836734021920844

[balmy elm]

I will say from my first run so far, that the ||Shotgun booby traps|| seem to spawn a bit TOO often, kinda wish it was a bit toned down or a way I can adjust their rates

[gaunt tangle]

||https://i.gyazo.com/519a99d4df2265be23a1bd1fbd556ed2.png|| ok this couldntve been an accident, @granite lily

[gentle grotto]

Ever since Lc Office decided to be Lc Office and be horrifically buggy

[balmy elm]

Wesley be like "Not again"

[gentle grotto]

and CozyOffice decided to be unfinished

I needed an office like- non industrial interior

[balmy elm]

Eh? What's going on with your LC_Office out of curiosity?

[gentle grotto]

Skrimp

kablewy

fps

bye bye

[balmy elm]

Ah

Guess that's why I usually don't have trouble with office cause I turn Shrimp off

[gentle grotto]

I mean

I could use Office

Still

but idk

im weird

[balmy elm]

I'm weird too lol

[gentle grotto]

Office also has some weird

uh

[quartz hedge]

Oh shit V50 released??

[gentle grotto]

Turret mine placement

[balmy elm]

Yeah that's the only thing I don't like about office is turret/mines tend to just be bunched up for whatever weird reason

Mines it's not TOO much of a problem, turrets however is p yikes

[quartz hedge]

and a new interiors mod?

Shiiiiit Wesley you cookin

[balmy elm]

Yes, all of Wesley's Moons are now in LLL alongside with a new interior to boot

[quartz hedge]

I do have a question

how easy is it to construct an interior in blender or wherever you create it?

[waxen lion]

Is it normal for lights to sometimes go off when you go back outside on Asteroid?
I always thought that was a bug but it's still there so is it intentional?

[astral junco]

Pretty sure that would be intentional, as they have the audio play again for shutting off

[waxen lion]

Maybe yeah

btw what do you guys think is the best interior for Asteroid?

I was thinking of SCP or Bunker

[astral junco]

Foundation

Ya

[uneven cave]

👀

[astral junco]

Also just checked out Tolians Spacestation interior, could also work well for Asteroid 13 though i havent played it on it yet

Teraspace*

[solar scroll]

WesleysInteriors is the mod name, apparently @gentle grotto already found a cullFactory issue 😅

[snow locust]

could anybody tell me the main interior they assign to each of wesleys moons? i dont really know what to put lol

arent most of his moons building exteriors just like facility exterior like in vanilla?

[waxen lion]

I'm literally doing them rn lol, I can send once I'm done

[snow locust]

great lol thanks

[waxen lion]

Problem is, idk where tf I should put the toystore on

[mental sage]

bozoros

uhhhh

[waxen lion]

Ooh Bozoros is a good idea

[mental sage]

uhhhhhhhh

[waxen lion]

as a side interior to the circus

[mental sage]

i cant think of another

maybe fission cause of the jester???

[astral junco]

Etern maybe with masks being dramatic masks and nutcrackers being massive toys, could fit lore wise ish, though I haven’t seen too much of the interior

(For a Wesley moon)

[waxen lion]

Interior Spoiler > ||I just found the shotgun trap and it's fucking genius||

[waxen lion]

Yeah Etern is also a great idea

[astral junco]

Sounds terrifying 😭

[gentle grotto]

Im a hero

[balmy elm]

Ok the ||shotgun booby trap|| doesn't seem to be a problem with larger-sized interiors like Artifice, interesting

It's just smaller ones like Experimentation it's, a bit of a problem at times

[uneven cave]

oh yea if it's happening on the edge of a tile that's undoubtedly bad tile bounds

hopefully not caused by doorways not being aligned to the edge of a tile, because that requires some big changes to that tile

[solar scroll]

Hopefully Wesley sees all these messages when he wakes up 👀

[uneven cave]

but idk if it's noted in any of the wikis or dungen docs that that's a requirement, people seem to forget it often

yee

[balmy elm]

Also the ||Apparatus event|| is funny af

[snow locust]

i did maritopia, solace, etern (cuz shotgun matches with nutcrackers?), argent, artifice, and echelon

[waxen lion]

Here's what I got so far, not sure about some of them tho so I'd gladly take suggestions
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fT5hxOG0OGKubTpnkyTO_Akb_ewHZ0Bw4okDm84ktjQ/edit#gid=2081749144

[snow locust]

cool thank u

[floral remnant]

NO WAY, V50??

CONGRATS WESLEY!!

[waxen lion]

V50 and an interior yeah

[floral remnant]

fuck yeah, MY BOY COOKED

@polar bobcat add this to the pack NOW

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-gif-40123618314459872

[snow locust]

is gratar building like officey looking lol

[waxen lion]

No but it's brown

[snow locust]

oh ok

[waxen lion]

lol

[snow locust]

good enough

[waxen lion]

I'm really not sure on what interior to put on Desolation

[snow locust]

not 100% sure if this good idea, but maybe add small chance for toy store for acidir

since its homey feelin at least from the pics

[snow locust]

idk what the exterior looks like on desolation, so

[waxen lion]

It's Cosmocos but red

[balmy elm]

Oh hey the ||shotgun booby traps can be disabled|| huzzah

[snow locust]

lol yea, maybe castle would be good

[waxen lion]

yeah I just added it lol

[snow locust]

why office for fission

i could see sewer since theres like puddles outside

[waxen lion]

Yeah I removed it, didn't make sense at all

[snow locust]

lolll

fission too small for office anway

office unfortunately is made for 2.35

so anyhting like 1 less than tht is bound to be really small inside

[waxen lion]

I have set an override for office's size at 8

so it's bigger

Because it's too small by default

[snow locust]

actually nvm fission actually isnt that small but there are many that are

[snow locust]

ohhhh but wouldnt that make maps that are like 2.3 wayy too big?

[balmy elm]

Oya figured to see what was going on with the interior + CullFactory and well...

[waxen lion]

I honestly don't know lol, I just stole Mi6k interior's sizes settings lmao

[snow locust]

so maps that are like 1.3 and under size are ok with office if its 8 u think? u tested small maps?

[waxen lion]

I tested Affliction, Offense and Assurance

and they're perfectly sized

[snow locust]

assurance 1 so then should be fine for all, tho idk maybe itd be bad for big maps

[waxen lion]

I literally just have Mental Hospital for 2 moons and SCP for 1 moon lmao

[snow locust]

how come sewer for oldred

[waxen lion]

Well it's almost the same as fission

Fission has radiactive liquid and Oldred has petrol

[snow locust]

true

[waxen lion]

And I also didn't know what else to put there

[snow locust]

fair enough

for moons that no interior fits very well, i just put all of the interiors on at an equal spawn chance

[waxen lion]

I'd like to put Mental Hospital on other moons but idk which one would fit

[thorn relic]

wait does mental hospital work for v50?

[waxen lion]

Yes but you gotta twek the size in LLL's config

[thorn relic]

i have no idea how to use the new LLL config lol

ill look into it deeper later

for now im just waiting for the toy factory interior from this mods interior to function with cullfactory properly

[waxen lion]

Tho I think I'm just gonna remove it from my pack

literally destroys my fps

I don't recommend it in it's current state

[pulsar root]

fps goes down to 3 when i stand on this part of the ship, happens on all wesley moons

[waxen lion]

Also happens with some other custom moons

idk why tho

[thorn relic]

lethal shenanigans is my guess

[orchid sequoia]

Has fps been touched on with the update by chance?

[waxen lion]

Yeah it's better on some moons

[orchid sequoia]

Hot

[balmy elm]

Yeah you effectively need CullFactory to help out with Hospital cause of just how much stuff is in the interior just, yeesh

[waxen lion]

I do have CullFactory

Had 30-60 fps on Polarus

With Factory I had 90-100

idk why it destroys my fps that bad

[orchid sequoia]

Been talking a break from the game for mods to update, what is cull factory?

[thick trail]

adds culling

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1200144261333659729

[marsh panther]

dis v50 update has thrown many wrenches into LQ ; w; .... I am grateful for it, but time to redo my LQ~

[lapis cargo]

You don't use extended mod???? (Also you'll still need dll for custom scripts)

[thorn relic]

i cannot get the toy factory interior with the force config

[woven saddle]

Congrats on v50 update!

[mint lake]

Wooooo!!! lets goooo! and an interior tooo!!!

[gentle grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-joker-gun-long-gif-17532069

Wesley is on my chopping block now

Polarus

• Game says its S+
• Page says its A

Asteroid13

• Game says its C-
• Page says its B

Oldred

• Game says its A
• Page says its S

Infernis

• Game says its S-
• Page says its A

Gratar

• Game says its S-
• Page says its A

Gloom

• Game says its S-
• Page says its B

Fission

• Game says its A+
• Page says its A

Desolation

• Game says its A-
• Page says its A

Cosmocos

• Game says its S+
• Page says its Unknown

Atlantica

• Game says its A-
• Page says its B
  @granite lily

[dark onyx]

new interior part of pack?

[gentle grotto]

nah

[dark onyx]

💪 thanks for letting me know

[high adder]

V50

LES GO

SIR PLEASE

[raw vortex]

Updated the nuke event (on Etern)

I'm sorry, there was a nuke event? Is that something I missed lmao

There's apparently also a ritual event on Junic but we've never found the dagger tbh

[brisk drift]

@granite lily I already suspected it.

But I didn't want to think about it.

But you're crazy.

You didn't just upgrade the moons to LLL.

But you also changed the appearance of Acidir and Polarus

And on top of that a new interior.

I need to pay for your vacation in Miami or something.

[viscid drum]

The game's risk levels are brokey

[raw vortex]

Apparently typing Asteroid changes the filter type in TerminalFormatter to Tags

What's the name of the mod that helps with terminal command conflicts?

[dark onyx]

dude that was a wesley mod thing 🗿 I thought I installed something weird, time to reinstall cursedscraps lol

[raw vortex]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SylviBlossom/TerminalConflictFix/ This I assume? Or is there a more up to date mod

That didn't appear to resolve it I don't think

[raw vortex]

Is it intended that Cosmocos has such a wide swing in scrap value? To the best of my understanding this means that the total value of all loot on the moon can be anywhere between 80 and 2000, which is an absurdly large range for an 1800 moon and makes it risky because it won't always pay out as much as is needed for the quota

which I suppose might be intended but just making sure

[viscid drum]

Scrap min and max are weird tbh

Im not sure what a min of 80 and max of 2000 does though

[round dome]

WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT

cosmocos last known position was updated

[raw vortex]

I checked and all of the others are a lot more tight of a range which is my main point in asking, but tbh these values might also be screwed in general because some early progression moons like Asteroid and Infernis have ranges of 900-2000

which is extrordinarily overtuned for early moons given their price

[round dome]

scrap value min and max are really weird, i think they hardly work

[viscid drum]

yeah

[raw vortex]

Assuming it works like I think

[viscid drum]

If @granite lily figured out how scrap min and max works reliably I would trust the values set. (And I personally am going to ask how it works xD)

[raw vortex]

first day Infernis

[round dome]

rainy on infernis what are you on about

[raw vortex]

second day

[round dome]

NATURALLY SPAWNING MASK HORNETS ON FISSION?

[raw vortex]

Infernis is 280, Rend comparatively speaking has a swing of 300 to 700 for a vanilla comparison, albeit Rend is more expensive

[gentle grotto]

Fission's Doors are uh

[brisk drift]

They are curious.

[raw vortex]

I'm just of the opinion that these loot values are overtuned in comparison to vanilla

[round dome]

can you still enter the building?

[gentle grotto]

Yea they work

[brisk drift]

Wasn't it like that before in LE?

[raw vortex]

Potentially, but it also wasn't this trivially easy to expose these loot values at that time I don't think

[brisk drift]

Mmm, idk, I don't know what to think, it might be fine, although I like the loot in their moons that way, in the end they tend to be a little more complicated than the vanilla moons.

But it's good to know that information.

[round dome]

what is the log translator?

[raw vortex]

Here's Cosmocos, which is at 1800 and has a loot swing of 80 to 2000. First visit is well over that limit, further reinforcing that the total scrap value stuff is screwed lol, second visit not pictured is at 3992

[round dome]

my gammit, acidir is on version 5.0.0

[round dome]

cosmocos being that valuable makes sense

i think min/max scrap value is just a broken vanilla feature honestly

[raw vortex]

I don't disagree, I'm mainly trying to verify the loot swing that's set even works

[round dome]

i've never really seen it work even on my own moons

[raw vortex]

Then what are they determined by, because so far as I can tell it has some impact

[round dome]

hell if i know

[raw vortex]

My guess is that there's potentially some correlation between the min/max amount of loot that can spawn and the min/max loot value, although I'm not sure to what extent

fourth visit to cosmocos is at 4406

I have no idea what's the deal with that setting then lol

[dark onyx]

I just want to ask, you dont have a mod that scales the value of moons based on quota right?

[raw vortex]

this is out of 34 pieces of loot, a good amount of which are over 150 in value

[raw vortex]

I don't have anything that modifies scrap value explicitly besides FacilityMeltdown which is why the apparatus is so expensive

this is off a fresh save

[dark onyx]

thats interesting

[raw vortex]

In any case I'll probably want to do some personal tuning for my modpack with my friends tomorrow so I'll be looking into this further and seeing what I can find, but in general Cosmocos appears to have a gigantic loot swing in the exact opposite direction of what's shown in the LLL config

I've never seen it go below 3000 and it's hit 4000+ at least twice

[round dome]

@granite lily do you have plans on making unique interiors for any of your moons? a cosmocos interior would go hard

[iron steppe]

can't wait for v50! wonder how the progress is going

[dark onyx]

its out lol

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-you-are-late-gif-24245822

[brisk drift]

Surprise!!!

[jovial beacon]

oh my god wesley I feel like crying from happiness rn

[raw vortex]

It's 100% broken in some way but the min and max values do have an effect, if I set the swing to 1600-2000 (from 80-2000) it "works" properly and Cosmocos now has a loot value of 1304 on my first visit. (still below the set minimum but no longer more than twice the set maximum)

However, none of Batby's custom scrap spawned in this instance, possibly due to (excuse me being an armchair developer here) the internally set value of the loot being too high to be considered for spawning given that Cosmocos needs to fit between 29 and 37 pieces of loot on the map while still adhering to a max loot value of 2000 (which it still failed to do properly as this first generation has 24 pieces)

Artifice itself seems to take advantage of this broken behavior as it has a value swing of 300-700 while it regularly has 1500~ spawn

What this appears to mean is that Cosmocos cannot be set to its default value swing and have it work while also being able to spawn all of the custom scrap, because the custom scrap has too high of a value for that

[raw vortex]

@viscid drum @round dome I'm not sure if this information (excluding the last point obviously since that's directed at Wesley) is relevant for your moons as I haven't checked their balancing but this seems like useful insight

A few points of interest:

• Min/max value does have an effect, but it will break badly if the minimum is set too low(?). In Cosmocos's case it's one of the factors that is causing the moon's value to regularly be x2 the maximum cap
• There's a correlation between min/max value, min/max scrap pieces, and the scrap that can spawn on the map, if they aren't in equillibrium then weird shit will happen and exacerbate the above issue
• High custom scrap prices and low variety in scrap that can spawn on the moon serves to further exacerbate the above two issues, as the game has an exceedingly small amount of loot to pick from when it is trying to obey the ranges properly, because the moons aren't set up with enough variety in scrap. Cosmocos has 17 scrap to choose from, half of which have very high internally set values. Artifice has double this at 37 scrap to choose from, a decent amount of which have low loot values, which are presumably important in allowing the dungeon generator to fulfill the set min/max properly. As a test, replacing Cosmocos's scrap list with Artifice allows Cosmocos to almost properly follow the set value maximum, coming in at 37 pieces of scrap with a total value of 2381 (2141 without the apparatus's inflated value from FacilityMeltdown). Pretty much all of Wesley's moons suffer from this behavior from what I can tell, and proper behavior can be restored by making sure the scrap list has enough low value loot and variety in loot to allow the generator to work properly.
  *This is most evident with custom scrap mods; NeedyCats was regularly spawning like six cats (valued 60-80ish) on Cosmocos with the modified value swing of 1600-2000 but with Cosmocos's default scrap list.
• Cosmocos (and a good amount of Wesley's moons assuming the value swings have any level of correlation) are overtuned for their price in comparison with vanilla moons which can trivialize quotas. We now have a vanilla 1500-cost moon to compare against and can see that Cosmocos on default settings will regularly double or triple the loot value of that moon despite only costing 300 more, which is unreasonably high value. Despite these moons having unique threats such as some inside enemies spawning outside, that doesn't really justify a x2-x3 increase imo.

I realize I'm using Artifice as a point of comparison despite saying above that Artifice itself takes advantage of this buggy behavior, but this seems to primarily highlight that both the selection of scrap that can spawn and the amount of scrap that can spawn plays a big part in the generation, bigger than the min/max value

For my part I'll probably be boosting the prices of these moons to compensate for their increased loot value since building a custom loot list sounds like a pain in the ass if it's just for my small friend group, but from the small amount of testing I did that's what I found

[toxic forge]

For someone that never used wesleys moons before, which are the top 3 moons? and which moons fits the new interior?

[brisk drift]

Determining in which moons the new interior is better is difficult to know.

And Wesley's top moons are also difficult, all the moons are so good that each top will vary, for example, my top is:

1. Asteroid-13
2. Gratar
3. Desolation

[granite lily]

Imma need to make a list of issues later lmao

Oh and yeah, no clue how the min/max value thingy works

[brisk drift]

Wesley, I hope that after fixing everything important you rest for at least a week.

And don't tell me yes and then secretly be doing 20 moons. (?

[scenic blade]

Thanks for your regular updates Wesley.

Didn't expect such a big mod's creator to be so quick on the uptake.

Also, why did v50 break it in the first place?

Just curious.

[balmy elm]

I found these via generations as well, I can't get the airhorn in the left img

For the right img, I'm unsure if items can potentially generate in the chest that's partially clipping into the wall (I used a mapper to see and no items were in that box thankfully, but figured to mention this in-case there IS a possibility items could end up in the wall cause of the chest placement)

[granite lily]

On the to-fix list

[iron steppe]

oh yeah how impressive are the new loading times :o

[scenic blade]

They're better than in the 49 version?

Were kinda long.

[granite lily]

Could be interesting, I'll put it on the ideas list

[torpid mountain]

...cube... interior......

[granite lily]

what
right
okay
interesting

[granite lily]

oh no

[granite lily]

Yup
Like I said
Forgot about risk levels, gotta set those up properly once I've got time

[granite lily]

WHAT
NO
NONONONO

I swear these cubes

[torpid mountain]

It is manifesting

[dry kiln]

THE CUBES

[granite lily]

No idea
I just.. made it

[oak tree]

Hello! Are there any issues that can't be fixed with some LethalQuantities tuning?

[granite lily]

[V50] Wesley's Moons/Interiors

[brisk drift]

It is evolving into something more powerful. 😩

[gentle grotto]

Devious backshots???

[gentle grotto]

Liar

Toy Factory 10000% matches up with the lore of Fission

[granite lily]

Yeah, I made it for Fission

Sure

[gentle grotto]

Omg

Are you legit

I refuse to believe you “just made toy factory” as a entirely unrelated thought process and mind space from having it be related to Aaron Fission-C

[forest coral]

@granite lily Acidir could use some optimization but all the rest of the moons ran perfect 💜

[mental sage]

i hope it saying interiors up there isnt gonna be a mario maker 2 situation and we get another interior one day.... obviously not anytime soon but

i'll still never forgive nintendo for extra themes and there was only one and they dropped the game after a few months

[valid yoke]

wesley's buildings
(interiors)

[torpid mountain]

Wesley's death traps

Wesley's basement

[mental sage]

Wesley's doohickey thingamabob contraptions

[sage sky]

its confusing:
so in the list of this mod page (https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Magic_Wesley/Wesleys_Moons/) not all moons are listed that are shown here:

and also some moon/(s?) does/do not show up in the terminal? sO i Am ConFuSiOn

[granite lily]

Awesome
Yeah Acidir has always been a bit meh on the optimization, I aim to resolve that one day

[torpid mountain]

This map includes vanilla moons

[sage sky]

oh okay didnt expect that

[lapis cargo]

One day -makes another moon

[granite lily]

I've got plenty of interior ideas right now so..

[granite lily]

Lmao yeah

[valid yoke]

wesleys buildings coming true

[torpid mountain]

The world could use more interiors indeed, since that's where majority of the gameplay happens :]

[valid yoke]

more interiors 2 is getting so old 😔

[torpid mountain]

I think we're really lacking in medieval style Department

There are a bunch of castle moons but there's only one castle interior available rn

[sage sky]

do you just enter this name in the terminal even though it doesnt show up and you can route to it? so which moons do actually not show up? only cosmocos?

[torpid mountain]

I hear that could be an issue with recent LLL version
Do you have TerminalFormatter installed?

Supposedly TF fixes issues with some routing options not appearing

||is very nice terminal UI mod too||

[sage sky]

are you talking to me? i have TF installed. but you guys talked about cosmocos up there in the chat which supposedly doesnt show up in the terminal. so im wonderning

[torpid mountain]

Oh. I thought you had missing moons

Yeah the hidden moons should behave like standard ones like Artifice or Embrion. Haven't heard talk of any extra complicated unlock requirements

[sage sky]

is there a way/mod to just show all moons (including hidden ones)?

[granite lily]

You should be able to in the LLL configs

[sage sky]

do you know what parameters/keywords to look for to find this entry?

[scenic blade]

Doesn't seem to be working correctly for me...

For some reason when you type asteroid, it sets a filter.

[raw vortex]

Cosmocos drops me by like 30-40 frames just by landing there so that might also need some work

[scenic blade]

Instead of prompting you to confirm the choice.

[forest coral]

Ah yeah I'm planning to go to Cosmocos later, didn't get to tonight cus my friends got too eepy lol

[granite lily]

Ah yes
I love my moon pack with 3 asteroids
I'll see what I can do about that lol

[raw vortex]

This is an LLL thing, type aster or ast or asteroid13

[scenic blade]

No, no, no, I typed this.

"Asteroid

Asteroid

Asteroid"

That's me.

[granite lily]

oh lmao

[scenic blade]

I tried to choose the moon.

But it put a filter instead.

[raw vortex]

This may be of interest #1213797469192855553 message

[scenic blade]

Thank u.

[crude cairn]

i thought the moons size would be smaller, thats not the case anymore iguess 😭

[sage sky]

@granite lily do you?

[celest cairn]

how do you remove this filter?

[scenic blade]

type 'filter none'

In the moon list.

[celest cairn]

Thankyou

[scenic blade]

Can't wait to go to all these awesome new moons woth my bf.

I kinda dislike vanilla moon selection. It's either 6 free moons which are samey (Offense-Assurance, Vow-March) or three last ones which are really expensive.

Finally there are cheaper, yet fresh options.

[simple mulch]

@gaunt tangle your pixel art is good! Would you consider making it a mod of some sort? Like displaying the pixel art in the moon list or on a monitor showing the moon your orbiting?

[crude cairn]

what in the scenes

[sage sky]

shouldnt artifice be visible with these settings then?

[granite lily]

You'll need to enable this

[sage sky]

oh its another one of these okay xD thanks

[granite lily]

lol, np

[brisk drift]

Soon.

At home

To install Wesley's moons.

And break the moons.

[granite lily]

If those Oldred bombs still don't kill you

I am going to explode myself

[brisk drift]

Omg, that's the first thing I should check when I get home. 😂

[halcyon creek]

v50

Let's goooooo

[granite lily]

.

[edgy sentinel]

What risk level is cosmocos

[granite lily]

yes

[edgy sentinel]

?

[halcyon creek]

That means it is very dangerous

[brisk drift]

Damn, that means it's too dangerous.

[edgy sentinel]

I’m not sure since it’s hidden but is it S+

[brisk drift]

As dangerous as when a Bracken broke my neck just for existing.

I think he hates my green suit.

[crude cairn]

are u gonna explode into cubes

[granite lily]

It's for you to decide

[granite lily]

I hope not

[edgy sentinel]

You can’t change the risk level?

[granite lily]

Of course I can

[edgy sentinel]

No I mean myself

[edgy sentinel]

You should make it “unknown”

[versed crater]

wait are we baack ?

omg finally

ty for ping

[edgy sentinel]

Yes

[edgy sentinel]

He also released a interior

[versed crater]

ooo

[granite lily]

Oh yeah wait it broke
It'll be Unknown again soon lol

[granite lily]

np

I remember you asking for it a long while back

[versed crater]

does the Wesleys Moons bundle come with the interior

[granite lily]

It's a separate mod

[versed crater]

i see

[brisk drift]

Cosmocos was not Risk: ???

[edgy sentinel]

Please don’t change the others though and use LLL auto assign risk level. I spent 4 hours yesterday changing all the spawn values and everything based on what it was.

[brisk drift]

??? >>>> Unknown

[edgy sentinel]

🙏

[granite lily]

Well have I got some bad news
..
I probably will

[edgy sentinel]

:(

[granite lily]

I base my risk levels on how difficult the overall moon is to me rather than just spawns and stuff

[edgy sentinel]

If you do you should make gloom a very hard moon. It would be good as a S

[granite lily]

Here for instance
Oldred is definitly not A due to the bombs and all the additional hazards
Infernis is definitely not S- (or A as I lowered it but once again forgot to update it on the modpage) it's quite easy to survive due to the terrain shape
And asteroid is definitely not C-

[brisk drift]

Is SS+

[gaunt tangle]

that would require much from me; the first being how to even start thinking how to mod

[simple mulch]

You could use the mod general improvements as a base it adds in a configurable amount of monitors to the ship, which can display various info.

[granite lily]

For those who have tried it, what are the opinions on the interior so far?
Does it play well? or..

[stiff ravine]

What maps have a custom interior?

[scenic blade]

What's LLL?

[uneven cave]

@granite lily I saw earlier there were issues with CullFactory, I'm guessing based on Mick's description that it was related to the tile's bounding box not being accurate

lemme know if you need me to look into anything though

you may already know though, but the doorways delimit the side of the bounding box that they inhabit, so it might be related to that if you have any that don't fall on the edge of a tile

otherwise could just need a bounds override

[granite lily]

Yeah I think I have an idea how to fix that
Cause the connectors do extend the bounding boxes past the doorways

[uneven cave]

oh, interesting, how did you do that?

I thought the doorway defined the connector

in other words, I thought that doorway connectors were purely visual and couldn't affect where the tiles connect

[granite lily]

Well apparently not

[uneven cave]

I'll have to have a look at that, I'm curious

normally I would expect it to just place the tiles so that the coordinates of the Doorway components match up perfectly

CullFactory does have a way to visualize tile bounds that might be useful for debugging this in a release build

gives a pretty good visual indicator of which tiles will have issues

(and just to be clear, this issue doesn't just affect CullFactory, it can cause tiles to intersect and then players can pass through one-sided colliders and get stuck)

[granite lily]

Oh yeah that was one of the issues I had while working on it
I ironed that out though, haven't seen it happen since

[cobalt vessel]

is there something I'm missing about asteroid 13?

why does everyone like it so much

[brisk drift]

Since there's a Coil-Head outside, that map is a lot of fun.

[uneven cave]

yeah, I'm not seeing anything suspicious about the tile bounds after a cursory look too, hmm

[lapis cargo]

it looks nice

[uneven cave]

do you have any idea which tile it was that had the issue?

[cobalt vessel]

ooohhh ok I didn't know that

[brisk drift]

I remember when all my friends died and I had to carry all the objects to the ship and I looked around the whole time while I returned to the ship.

[cobalt vessel]

idk I found it not fun to navigate when I played it and it just felt almost too empty

[brisk drift]

Having only one Coil-Head at the beginning of the game makes it a good experience and not unfair, but it gives you a lot of anxiety.

[cobalt vessel]

maybe I need to try it out again

[granite lily]

Wait I totally forgot to lower the chances of the lights randomly turning off there
It's still like 20% lmao

[cobalt vessel]

it's always been the moon that I've sort of skipped out on playing since I didn't like it

[brisk drift]

DAMMIT

I thought that the time I left the place and the lights were off it was because I forgot to turn them on.

But it wasn't like that, damn. XDD

[uneven cave]

looks like the door socket sizes are pretty small compared to their actual opening, so maybe that's the cause of what Mick noticed?

for example, if I look above it, CullFactory can't tell the next tile is visible:

(there's a config option to make CullFactory treat the entire side of the tile as visible to the next one, but it's ideal not to do that since it reduces the amount that it can cull)

[granite lily]

Maybe
But the actual bounding boxes do collide with each other as they're going slightly past the door sockets

It'll be easier to show once I get home

[uneven cave]

ah huh

I wonder if I can see that then, I was looking at the bounds from the outside

that could make sense, but it would be very odd

[simple mulch]

Wait you made a custom interior 🤯, is it standalone?

[uneven cave]

(DunGen is supposed to make it so that the side of a tile's bounds lines up with a (arbitrary) Doorway component's transform position on that side)

[granite lily]

Yeah

To both

[cobalt vessel]

so hyped to try out an interior from the goat

hopefully you make more in the future too

[granite lily]

I've got an idea for a very unique one

[uneven cave]

perf seems pretty good on the interior even without CullFactory, nice job

[granite lily]

:D

[uneven cave]

not really seeing anything obviously weird about any tile bounds from the inside either, but maybe you're talking about some very specific tile I haven't found

I think it's probably just the door socket sizes and then it'll be all good

[brisk drift]

Okey

[simple mulch]

Toy store is already a unique idea,what moons do you recommend pairing it with? Also what is your other idea?

[brisk drift]

It's time to go to Oldred.

And see what will happen.

[simple mulch]

What why does the mod page say voice acting?

[granite lily]

Gonna be home in ~3,5 hours, I'll show you the chaos then

[waxen lion]

audio logs

[simple mulch]

Right the audio logs, cool new scrap is nice

[waxen lion]

I have the toystore interior set to be 2/3 chances on Etern and and 1/3 on Bozoros

and rare interior on Gratar

[granite lily]

Do you mean for the interior or in general?

[simple mulch]

Gratar is a fun idea

[simple mulch]

I meant the interior but that's all cleared up now

[waxen lion]

Oh idk about the interior tho

I thought you meant the moon pack mb

[simple mulch]

No

I'm guessing its new scrap

[brisk drift]

@granite lily Sorry Wesley, I have to share the news with you...

|| IT ALREADY WORKS OMG, SO HAPPY ||

[granite lily]

The interior doesn't have new scrap
I just see my work as one big project so I'll credit it accordingly

[granite lily]

Omg you almost had me explode there lmaooo

[simple mulch]

Ok makes sense

[waxen lion]

What interiors do you guys think fit Infernis?

[mint lake]

Starlancer Warehouse or Castle dungeon is what I went with but I think Sector 0 and SCP would work too.

[torpid mountain]

Yeah Sector 0 would be pretty cool methinks

[harsh wing]

For the hidden moons is there any tips on the game on how to go to them?

I know that you can do that by typing the name but is there any kind of thing hinting at the name of them on the currently visible moons?

[granite lily]

There's only one hidden moon
And yes, plenty

[harsh wing]

Ok

[jovial beacon]

I personally set castle dungeon as 150, sewer as 5, bunker as 120, scp as 40, poolrooms as 2, liminal pools as 3, school as 5 and thats it kinda

https://ko-fi.com/magicwesley

what a gamer

[lapis cargo]

ah yes, image

[brisk drift]

Nah, nah, nah, if I have any money left over this month, I'll donate €20.

[granite lily]

image

[spark lotus]

Cosmocos entity caught in 4k

[snow locust]

wesley now u gotta convince insym and the group to play these moons and the interior lol

get some nice exposure to the new interior

[gentle grotto]

Mornin

[round dome]

hi cosmo

[gentle grotto]

I’m slightly overusing the hell out of toystore for my configs

[round dome]

you should randomly set the image to cosmochad with no explanation

[granite lily]

Insym seemed interested in checking out the update sometime

[round dome]

insym?

[gentle grotto]

Content creator

Hero

[round dome]

ah

[granite lily]

lmao

[gentle grotto]

Wesley I’m sure you have a nice long list of bugs, fixes, and tweaks to make

May I add slightly more to that list

[granite lily]

It's not very long atm
so
Sure :D

[gentle grotto]

For the toystore traps, is it intentional for it to be so obvious (you hit the scan node for it a whole tile away)

[granite lily]

You need line of sight to scan them but yea

[gentle grotto]

I feel like it should be more like current traps like landmines

Where even if you have LOS of it you cannot get the scan node until you look directly at the object and then acknowledge it

[granite lily]

Maybe, could decrease the scan range a bit

[gentle grotto]

I’m just saying, I play with a couple of idiots but they can at least see a giant red clickbait circle on their screen

[granite lily]

Lmao

[granite lily]

Anything else?

[lapis cargo]

you can also change it to be green and trick em to go to it

they wont follow a giant red clickbait circle but they'll follow a pile of cash that looks like a bomb

[granite lily]

That might confuse people more than it kills them
But that would be hilarious with a proximity mine or something like that lmao

[primal dawn]

ya maybe not green because that changes the vanilla precedent i would save that that for something that is trying to look like scrap 👀

[snow locust]

what does the possessed walkie do

[round dome]

plays voice clips when you use it, lore stuff

[spark lotus]

Mine turtle for Atlantica lol

[snow locust]

oh ok thanks

[gentle grotto]

Uh the risk level stuff, fission’s doors,

[granite lily]

Those are already on the list
That it?

[brisk drift]

Man.

[lapis cargo]

if we're talking additions, i want my name on a honorary list for cool people near the entrance of that interior

[brisk drift]

I love the interior of Wesley.

It's going to become my favorite.

[waxen lion]

I noticed Infernis looking a bit different near the right fire exit, like I remember it having very bright orange fog there

[granite lily]

Yeah I'll add it behind the entrance

[lapis cargo]

easter egg for the unity explorer folks heh

[granite lily]

I did do some lighting changes so that's probably why

[round dome]

the radioactive orbs on fission seem to be far above the interior with it set to toy store

wait whar

there are radioactive orbs in the correct places

but also ones above???

[brisk drift]

|| Top 10 best hazards in the universe. ||

[round dome]

oh my god that's so good

@granite lily ||finding jester boxes around the|| toystore interior ||as you can with nutcrackers would be cool||

[thorn relic]

||i imagine it eould be funny if they were a trap like object jester box that pops and a skull just bites anyone nearby||

[frosty viper]

Waaait interiors ?! are you making interiors now 👀 other than the special normal onces ?

[toxic forge]

how exactly is last know position of cosmocos supposed to work? is it just a place to visit like an easter egg or?

[mental sage]

its basically the start of the quest to find cosmocos

[toxic forge]

but its super dark and you cant go anywhere?

[granite lily]

Yeah
It's not a real moon

[round dome]

this can't be good

[balmy elm]

Yeah actual full-fledged interiors, there's 1 currently

[frosty viper]

That is very dope!

[balmy elm]

Ye is a p fun interior, I'm just awaiting any issues it currently has with CullFactory to be ironed out

Then I'm gonna happily add it to some moons, I'm thinking at least Rend & Dine to start with and from there see what ones I have downloaded already

[hoary rock]

so to start the whole cosmocos thingy arg i just have to land to known position and go from there?

[granite lily]

It's a source of information

[lapis cargo]

Oh god cosmocos is locked again?

[granite lily]

Lmao
Only hidden

[lapis cargo]

Thank god

I do not play the game enough to figure out cosmocos's stuff and starlancer's moon

[hoary rock]

i was wondering what it does until i read its not implemented first lmaooo

only read the tooltip after 3 interactions

wait where is the clock

[amber edge]

Was getting some weird log spam "Set destination to target player B" on Etern using custom interior "Warehouse" not sure if that's normal or not or another mod, here are my logs just in case

[hoary rock]

is being unable to see the clock on asteroid a feature?

im also having heavy rubberbanding inside the ship

[round dome]

i think cosmocos should be locked

[hoary rock]

only on host

[oak tree]

@granite lily Didn't you make a kofi?

[hoary rock]

ok this is probably unrelated to wesleys

[glass shoal]

Its good to see interiors from wesley sama

I wish i wouldnt have forgot how to do mapping , i have tons of ideas, and learning the basics again sounds like pain 🥲

[granite lily]

yea

[granite lily]

It's not that bad

[hoary rock]

oh i see it on junic

[oak tree]

I donated $5, it ain't much but that's what I can give!

[brisk drift]

We have to pay for a vacation to the Caribbean for Wesley.

Or we have to pay for his vacation in a chocolate factory so that when he returns he can make another interior.

👀

[granite lily]

Wow
Thank you ❤️

[brisk drift]

Btw, Can you pass the link to your Ko-Fi? I want to keep the link so I can donate to you when I can.

[granite lily]

It's on any modpage near the very bottom

It's kinda hidden lol

[brisk drift]

I can't find it, this is version 2.0 of Cosmocos, "Find Wesley's Ko-Fi!"

YA

I found it.

[granite lily]

You need to find the secret code first lmao

[spark lotus]

Is the secret code "Cube"

[granite lily]

It wasn't so secret after all

Gonna do an update later
Cull factory support incoming

[hoary rock]

hello how are you

im under the water

please help

[oak tree]

There's too much raining woo

[oak tree]

You're welcome!

[hollow prawn]

floor window

[granite lily]

Lol what

[hoary rock]

just junic things

[oak tree]

About the scraps conversation I've seen earlier in the day, though it'd be funny

[hoary rock]

day 3 was also flooded we decided to go to march instead lmaooo

[granite lily]

hmm
Maybe I should have it be a little lower then lmao

[hoary rock]

i have the uhhhhhhhhhhh

something something flooded fix

but i think it wont affect junic?

typing asteroid for some reason brings this menu up??????? what is this even

i can route to it with the full name but wtf

oh

well

so no clock on asteroid is a feature?

[granite lily]

Will be fixed in a minute here

[granite lily]

I don't remember
Probably lol

[hoary rock]

you can aslo see a tree clipping when landing on junic

wasnt able to check the other moons yet

except the last known position

||the only thing i heard was gratar ||

[granite lily]

Tree clipping happens a lot

[patent gust]

What's the interior mod?

[hoary rock]

toy factory

also the metal detector is just GOLD

[hoary rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/963663155140108328/1237466793568768080/5rKgiwh.mp4?ex=663bc042&is=663a6ec2&hm=50165810514b91977a5f053c423aa4a20189dd7748a61678ef612b846ace202e&

[patent gust]

Is the interior already released?

[hoary rock]

yes

its a separate mod

[patent gust]

Oh, it's called WesleyInterior

I was looking it as Toy Factory 😭

[teal ice]

Yay, i'm so happy these mods were ported from LEC to LLL

[tropic gorge]

We are BLESSEDDD todau

All of wesley’s moons are V50 now

Along with a new interior

As well as the new hidden moon from starlancer

[edgy sentinel]

@granite lily have you updated the moon risk levels? Or are you waiting until later.

[granite lily]

Next patch

[brisk drift]

There don't seem to be many problems after the port. '^'

That's nice.

Imagine launching the moons and them being broken and full of cubes. 😂

[granite lily]

I'd be more worried about the latter

[west birch]

This is so many moons, amazing 😂 is there a list of the default interiors for each moons?

[hoary rock]

simulate command 👀

[west birch]

simulate only gives the percent right? not the weight?

Cause I may wanna add custom interiors to them. I don't know how to get the base weights

[spark lotus]

simulate also provides the weight

[waxen lion]

It gives both if you have TerminalFormatter

Actually, you can choose which you want in LLL's config

[west birch]

Thank you 😄

didnt know, will check

[spark lotus]

Speaking of LLL

How does the config exactly work

Trying to figure out how to custom add specific interiors to certain moons

[sage sky]

we got the infinite waiting for crew (players)/random seed (host) when trying to land on junic

[waxen lion]

Moon:Rarity in the interior section

Make sure to enable configuration for said interior

[spark lotus]

Where would I locate the internal names of the moons?

[waxen lion]

For most of them, you just type whats shown on the terminal

[spark lotus]

This applies to Wesley's moons?

[waxen lion]

Yes, although for Asteroid-13 I just type "Asteroid"

[spark lotus]

Alright got it

Thanks

[waxen lion]

Same for Fission-C

Just "Fission"

[spark lotus]

Got it

[hoary rock]

i love when lethal starts playing its ambient to make me not hear shit on last known position

[worthy viper]

Is the new interior playable enough to include? Or should I wait a bit until some bug fixes? There were some posts above that showed weird textures/glitching happening with cullfactory.
Either way, love that the moons are back

[granite lily]

Cullfactory fix is coming in a bit

[waxen lion]

I wish it would be posible for moon makers to disable vanilla music

I just hate when there are two songs playing at the same time on Infernis or one of Rosies' moons

[polar bobcat]

You should make it more visible
You can also add a donate link to your thunderstore “team” so a donation button appears in the mod manager

[west birch]

@spark lotus Fission is "Fission-C"

[waxen lion]

Just Fission works

That's what I have

[west birch]

I just configured my interiors and just Fission didnt work

like 5min ago

I believe it was made this way cause there's another moon called "Fission" in Expert moons

[cobalt vessel]

you made the not so serious configs right?

[waxen lion]

ye

Hold on I'll try it in game

[solar scroll]

On the moon with the flowers, they do snap at you when they clip through the ship on takeoff. They don't do damage however so that's good

[cobalt vessel]

are you able to use LLL's config for all of them?

[cobalt vessel]

hmmm ok, is dantor's usable? i know it says it's broken on there, but i thought i heard some people mention a fix in the other chats

[waxen lion]

You're actually right mb, I actually copied the names from @void basin's sheet and assumed it was right

I just tested it

[west birch]

It works fine in my modpack at least

[waxen lion]

Dantor nukes my fps

[cobalt vessel]

mostly talking about the size of the interior

[west birch]

Cool! Glad I'm not crazy!

[void basin]

Uhoh

[granite lily]

lmao yeah

[void basin]

Is something broken?

[waxen lion]

Fission should be named Fission-C for configs

[west birch]

I think it's pretty big and doesnt scale a lot with the planets. I have it on a hard moon so I don't really know about other problems

[void basin]

Fixed

[waxen lion]

I tested it on Eve and it was too big, even with a dynamic scale of 0.5

and I had 40 fps

[cobalt vessel]

oh hm, ill look to see if there is any fix for that

because i love the interior, but yeah it is way too big

[cobalt vessel]

wait i just saw someone mention another scale issue on eve with another interior so that may be an eve issue

[waxen lion]

Nah I put Poolrooms on Eve and it's fine

[west birch]

I have this on a planet with a multiplier of 1.2x and it's fine

[cobalt vessel]

oh wierd

[waxen lion]

That's weird because I set it to be smaller and I find it big

[west birch]

It is big, but doesnt lag and I have 35-45 scraps on that planet so it's fine.

It certainly is bigger than supposed to

But works well with the rest of my config

[cobalt vessel]

yeah i was wondering if there was a way to fix that

[waxen lion]

I'll probably just wait until it is updated honestly

[cobalt vessel]

same unfortunately

[west birch]

I would assume that if you crank down the values in "size", "DungeonMinSize" and "DungeonMaxSize" it would work. It has an effect for sure

[cobalt vessel]

idk bro im just tryna assemble a modpack for my friends

[west birch]

Same tbh, I just like fiddling with configs

[cobalt vessel]

i do too, but my friends want a stable and enjoyable modpack and it's hard to mess with configs and still make it balanced and shi

[waxen lion]

It certainly is a long process

[west birch]

Some of my interiors are on one planet only and 100%, if it lags we just stop going on it for the rest of the night. That's how I can stress test

[waxen lion]

I've spent more time to configure my modpack than to play the game

[cobalt vessel]

especially since i had literally perfected it for v49 as soon as v50 released

i dont feel like fucking around with configs for hours at a time anymore

[spark lotus]

Noted

[cobalt vessel]

btw scarlet mansion is the only configurable in my LLL config that is in this image, how do i fix this

[waxen lion]

When you go into a save all the interiors get added to LLL's config

[cobalt vessel]

ooohhh ok

[round dome]

as i left, the asteroid 13 lights turned off and on again

[forest coral]

He's pushing updates for his moons right now that provide optimizations and fixes so this may be fixed if it is a bug

[cobalt vessel]

ah shit, terminal is breaking

i have terminal formatter installed btw

[round dome]

yes i know i am reporting a bug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[forest coral]

Ik lol just letting you know the new update he just pushed may have this fixed already

Make sure to test

[waxen lion]

Nice changelog

[round dome]

seeing the polarus elevator move with someone else on it is beautiful

[lapis cargo]

My favourite type of changelog

[hoary rock]

i thought them turning off and on randomly was a feature?????

[round dome]

they turn off as you leave, but they turned back on for me

[hoary rock]

oh

[lapis cargo]

The janitor came early

Make sure to say hi

[forest coral]

He told me on stream he was working on some optimizations and performance fixes earlier, but he was also tired when I ended so the changelog probably indicates he forgot what all he did lol

[cobalt vessel]

please help

[granite lily]

You know, just as I was writing the patch notes
I realised I completely forgot about the risk ratings..
Anyways, patch notes for today

[lapis cargo]

I thought u didn't remember

Liar

[quartz hedge]

Don't let ur smoke alarm go off, cuz ur pants might be on fire

[granite lily]

That was Acidir

lmao

Changed something there, can't remember what

[hoary rock]

you're going to hell for this low key

payforhim

[cobalt vessel]

nvm fixed it

[cobalt vessel]

i blame you for making showmoons price lll

[granite lily]

I forgot I put it on 20 for testing

[hoary rock]

im testing

apparently

[lapis cargo]

20 for testing? Did u just sit for an hour

If it ain't 100 are u really testing

[granite lily]

I mean

yeah

[hoary rock]

i told my friend today to watch the outside coilhead while i go get the scrap (it was foggy)
when i came back my friend hasnt moved and the coilhead was gone

this moon is pure nightmare fuel

[granite lily]

lmao

[west birch]

Was my mod the problem? 😂

Most people use TerminalFormatter nowadays, I did keep my mod up to date tho since it's really simple and doesnt modify terminal nodes. If it breaks I'll fix it 👀

[granite lily]

Praise the almighty orb

[cobalt vessel]

yeah it was lmao

[sage sky]

@granite lily what could cause this? #1204432295025578014 message

[waxen lion]

Look at your console if there are any errors

[granite lily]

^

[edgy sentinel]

@granite lily did you add the new risk levels because its still showing the old ones

[waxen lion]

He forgot about them
#1204432295025578014 message

[raw vortex]

What's the internal name of the interior so that I can disable it in CullFactory till it's fixed?

ToystoreFlow?

Or was it fixed in the update?

[novel cargo]

it was fixed

[raw vortex]

👍

[valid yoke]

wesley's city's

more interior mod name

[north flax]

If I put asteroid 13 into the scoopy mod thing

is it "asteroid-1310"

[waxen lion]

just put "Asteroid"

[north flax]

Or

Just asteroid10

like that?

[waxen lion]

Hmm actually, since scoopy has the number next to the name I'm not sure

It's Asteroid for the other interiors but idk if it will work for scoopy

[north flax]

Should I uh

[waxen lion]

Yeah it should

[north flax]

Use LLL

[astral junco]

Shouldn’t Scoopys interiors work if you use the LLL configs?

[north flax]

Thats what I was thinking

[waxen lion]

Yeah you could do that too

[hoary rock]

They do, I'm using lll for them

[novel cargo]

Simply best way to find out is just try all the options

simulate command from LLL works wonders

[waxen lion]

It's better to use the interiors' own config when possible instead of LLL's

So you don't have to put everything back in everytime you regenerate it

[raw vortex]

@granite lily To add onto the stuff I said yesterday, I discovered that even just toggling on Custom Configuration in LLL on Cosmocos (and maybe on your other moons, I didn't check) SEVERELY messes with the scrap that can spawn on the moon. Cosmocos, with the setting disabled, was regularly spawning 3000-4000 worth of scrap, with the option enabled in a freshly generated config (so no changes) it's down to 1800.

This is possibly something you should look into as that doesn't seem like intended behavior at all and prevents players from making changes to the routing price, enemy weights, etc. without kneecapping the moon. I still feel like Cosmocos is overtuned but I can't compensate for it if I can't edit the moon without ruining it lol

This may also be of interest to Batby since it makes it sound like the default settings aren't populating properly, but I'm not positive this is actually an LLL issue

[bold dragon]

i'm fairly certain they don't, because they haven't been updated since LLL 1.2.0, unless i just did something wrong, but i was able to get the LLL config to work for everything that has been updated since 1.2.0

[bold dragon]

this is something i was worried about, i wish there was an option to only change some aspects of a moon without changing others, like the routing price for example

[raw vortex]

LethalQuantities can probably do it without all of the baggage that LLL brings along with it when enabling custom configuration, but I haven't tried

I'm also not terribly interested in trying because it's redundant with LLL assuming everything works properly

[bold dragon]

i didn't try either out of fear that it would change things i didn't want to change, which is apparently the case for this pack at least. i'll check out lethal quantities at some point

[raw vortex]

LQ has checkboxes on the web config so it only explicitly modifies what you check off

It should work fine in this case

[bold dragon]

alright, thank you for the recommendation

[wet plaza]

Is it just me or does Cosmocos not appear anymore on the terminal? like, is it now a ''hidden'' moon? or is it just a TerminalFormatter mistake?

[thorn relic]

its a hidden moon

[pulsar root]

BUG: Some fire exits on Fission teleports you to the main enterance. Also the main exit door model is larger it looks kinda off.

[round dome]

it's always been a hidden moon

[patent gust]

Talking about hidden moons, is there a way to show them in the terminal?

[wet plaza]

Oh it always was???

dang my memory's been lying to me this whole time

[waxen lion]

No it never was until the last update

I clearly rememeber seeing Cosmocos on the terminal with the "UNKNOWN" grade

[patent gust]

If I install Wesley moons, it’s gonna make the game a bit heavy? I have like 70 mods and I don’t know if the whole package can affect the performance

[waxen lion]

Amount of mods don't affect performance

Only affects boot time

[patent gust]

Oh ok

[dark onyx]

if you want a slightly faster boot time you can always add this to https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DiFFoZ/BepInEx_Faster_Load_AssetBundles_Patcher/

it'll be faster to boot after first time load up of a modlist

[valid yoke]

egg

[wet plaza]

egg. can u tell me what mod makes the health bar HUD like that? With the purple, stamina and health bar being straight

[valid yoke]

eladshud and insanity display

[wet plaza]

Thanks

[vapid lichen]

apologies if the following has been addressed but I decided to see what the default interior weightings were for wesley's planets so I could start configing them manually and i noticed that mansion has been wiped from existence when I simulate all of the moons

and acidir just throws 0 all around

I do remember polarus having weightings for mansion by default, can't remember the others off the top of my head.

[waxen lion]

the simulate command works fine for me

[vapid lichen]

hmmm. Maybe imperium is at fault here. I'll try a different profile.

Not blaming imperium just yet, but new profile showed showed the right values. Ty, I'll see what's the culprit.

[patent gust]

It really works?

[waxen lion]

Yeah

A lot of people use it

[patent gust]

Alright, I'm gonna test it, thank you

[vapid lichen]

remaking LLL config fixed it, simple as

[forest coral]

@granite lily got some pretty bad lag on Cosmocos earlier when exiting the facility to head back to the ship, unsure why tbh

[shrewd rover]

What interiors does this mod add?

[novel cargo]

Just Toy Store currently

[patent gust]

Looks like I can't go to Atlas Abyss because Atlantica takes the name of the moon 😭

[waxen lion]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SylviBlossom/TerminalConflictFix/

This will fix that

[raw vortex]

FYI turrets can shoot through this directly in the middle of my camera

just smoked one of my friends from a hallway behind it

[forest coral]

Yeah I told Wesley about this on stream earlier 😅

[raw vortex]

wish I could've clipped it because it was hilarious but my shadowplay was off for some reason

[lost burrow]

Aw, did the ||Jester in Fission|| get its outdoor spawn removed by chance with the reworks? Haven't seen the goofy lil' guy in a while.

[forest coral]

He still spawns, we had one yesterday although he couldn't aggro on us

[lost burrow]

Ah alright. Guess I've been (un)lucky then.

[raw vortex]

Is Fission-C's toxic liquid supposed to be particularly deadly? I stood in it for a while and it did little damage.

Few more things about Fission, it spams this rapidly both on landing and leaving

And the toxic pools around the ship don't appear to fill up over the day like they did on v49

[balmy elm]

Surprised my friends with Toy interior and they had a blast with it

[forest coral]

Was wondering what moon spammed this in my logs yesterday

lol

[raw vortex]

Actually it seems to happen when you have one of the notes on your ship and you land/go into orbit

it specifically references ThePlan1 which is this one

[forest coral]

Weird

lol

[lapis cargo]

Whay is this lore 😭

Some AITA reddit story

[valid yoke]

is this still etern?

[raw vortex]

Is the outside coilhead on oldred supposed to look like it's covered in oil? Doesn't seem like it recolored the legs properly

[brisk drift]

He wears shorts.

[gentle grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-going-to-beat-you-to-death-i-am-going-to-beat-you-to-death-cover-yourself-in-oil-troll-gif-19810288

[dark onyx]

👂 🗣️

[raw vortex]

sound warning please holy fucking shit

[gentle grotto]

um

get down?

[granite lily]

Lmao what

[raw vortex]

there was a second coilhead and it looked completely normal so I don't know what the fuck is up with that

[granite lily]

I did not change that lol

[gentle grotto]

woah

Please

do

I love the idea of oil covered coilheads

You ever think of doing varients of enemies like https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1212942407306313788 has

[brisk drift]

I approve of oil dipped coil heads if they look like they are wearing shorts like in the photo. 😂

[granite lily]

lll configs are entirely generated and managed by lll, not much I can do about that

[iron steppe]

oilheads

[granite lily]

Only when exiting?

[raw vortex]

Actually while we're at it, I landed on Cosmocos first thing with my friends earlier and we all dropped to 40 FPS

[granite lily]

Lmao

[raw vortex]

and stayed that way

[granite lily]

I mean yeah
Still need to do some performance stuff there

[forest coral]

Yeah I almost wonder if an enemy was having a hard time pathfinding or something idk

[granite lily]

This will change back to how it was eventually, same with the oil geysers on oldred
And it should still rise over time

[granite lily]

Maybe
Brackens are known for that lol

[forest coral]

Yeah I will say the first 2 games I died to fire exits that had a Bracken camping outside of the door

lol

[valid yoke]

brackens i hate brackens!

[forest coral]

They hate you too c;

[valid yoke]

they really do

[granite lily]

I love brackens, they're such good friends

[valid yoke]

nuh uh they suck!

[granite lily]

I don't see any other creature watch my back while I'm busy

[valid yoke]

nuh uh he trying to be sneaky

[novel cargo]

is that a gun

[valid yoke]

gun where!

[valid yoke]

your teammates!!

[granite lily]

Of course, my teammates
Which are..
Not there most of the time

Brackens are way more reliable

[gentle grotto]

man

[valid yoke]

no! they kill you!!

[gentle grotto]

FUCK PUFFERS!!!!

[valid yoke]

NOOO