Wesley's Moons/Interiors/Weathers/Variants/General/Mrov

[native valve]

You can pull of animations (object transformations) with LE but I’m not sure how it would interact with sight

Tbf I haven’t tried it yet, by all means it might be doable

[left lodge]

could also hook it up to the button for the lights, make it trigger on a second button press so if you have to turn them on again after a random shut-off he's gone

[native valve]

that seems more likely to work

could be a cool detail if a player is paying attention to stuff like that

[left lodge]

also could have the same effect for the ||dozen or so ones embedded in the sand|| would be good quality pants-shitting fear for someone new trying out the moon to see them all vanish

[native valve]

Mhm

[dense tangle]

Oh sweet, thread already hit 1000

[forest ruin]

Lets goooo

[soft junco]

im trying to get to the atlas abyss moon from the other creator but typing the name in the terminal auto corrects it to atlantica ✊😔

[forest ruin]

Try atlas

smh smh

[soft junco]

didnt help

[forest ruin]

Hmm...
Abyss
Atlas_Abyss
AtlasAbyss
Atlas Abyss
the serial number of the moon

Try those maybe? ;w;

[willow plank]

atlas and atlan are two different planets terminal will know

[willow plank]

then ping wesley for this

the video is good enough

[round dome]

why do you have so many moons my god

[forest ruin]

Yeah just tried out al lthe combinations too only to find out they all go to Atlantica 😭

[soft junco]

im just testing them

[forest ruin]

Very weird

[round dome]

all roads lead back to atlantica, you can't escape

[soft junco]

looking for what to add to modpack

[forest ruin]

Even Atlas_Abyss does and thats connected

[round dome]

maybe this is actually an LLL issue?

[forest ruin]

EVEN ATLASABYSS DOES HUH?

[round dome]

assuming you have LLL that is

[forest ruin]

Wait, its all Atlantica?

Always has been

[soft junco]

i have zero experience in making moons but they might share the same id or smth

[forest ruin]

Yuh, got LLL

[round dome]

i guess until a solution is found you gotta choose one or the other. i'd choose atlantica

[soft junco]

@granite lily

[forest ruin]

Oh well might as well test out flooded atlantica while its a topic

[granite lily]

:|

[willow plank]

i really love your lore items

a little suggestion i do have... on foggy asteroid the red lamp is kinda overtaking the whole view

[native valve]

LOL

https://tenor.com/view/red-smoke-boom-blast-explosion-red-gif-16252733

[granite lily]

It's only a little bright

[willow plank]

lmao

[native valve]

theres an invisible roof on polarus and i wanted to go out of bounds with the jetpack and killed myself lol

either that or its base game and he fixed people being able to go too high

[wicked sand]

@granite lily what if on astroid 13 the remote item could toggle thte lights

also what if the apparatice (or energy core if that's this mod doing that) turned the lights off

[frail crag]

weird I have atlas abyss and I didn't have this issue, tho I still use the old non-LLL version

[forest ruin]

Must be a LLL issue then.

[wicked sand]

in the big wesley's moons pack all moons are free

[round dome]

LLL issue i think

[wicked sand]

it doesn't happen with individual moons tho

[round dome]

does for me

[wicked sand]

maybe it's just a recent issue, because using all of the individual moons won't even let people join

[marsh panther]

LLL recently updated. Give a few days for all devs to catch up ., .

or downgrade to 1.0.7

[forest ruin]

LLL really do be taking the L in LLL right now 😔
Batby will win tho

Can't win the fight, you win the war instead

[gloomy grove]

Batby is developing a tool that lets every single modded moon and interior run seamlessly, including the moons that aren't even using his system, coughs LE coughs bound to be some bugs for big updates

[forest ruin]

Yuh. Do hope that everyone integrates to LLL eventually, since LE is basically dead (right?)

[hasty kite]

A lot of scrap use LE

[gloomy grove]

Mhm, LE dev says he wants to move on

[hasty kite]

Did he not pass the mantle yet?

[gloomy grove]

I don't think so

[waxen panther]

Atlantica is beautiful holy god damn

[willow plank]

welcome to kamino atlantis

[waxen panther]

so true...

[modest willow]

Asteroid caused the game to freeze beware

[void basin]

That's an issue with the most recent version of LLL I think

unless you mean like freeze freeze

[charred hornet]

Whats Asteroid 13 in configs?

like what is the in code name

[modest willow]

Maybe idk

[willow plank]

go to LLL 1.0.7 and it will load fine

[granite lily]

It's just Asteroid

[willow plank]

was it changed?

does that apply on your standalone asteroid13 mod

[cobalt zealot]

Would you happen to have the min/max scrap values for each moon? Trying to patch the prices with LLL rn but can't without LLL changing those values to 0

[charred hornet]

oh fr?

[waxen plume]

This is literally better than the vanilla moons

[waxen panther]

@granite lily I can't go to Atlas Abyss if I have Atlantica installed, since LC only reads the 3 first letters...

Is there a workaround for that?

[cobalt zealot]

^ type "route" before the moon

then the full name

[waxen panther]

ohhhh amazing thank you

Huh it doesn't work

[cobalt zealot]

hm, I havn't tried it recently. I took out Atlas cuz I didn't like it but I definitely did that when I had both

[cobalt zealot]

I maybe also had a mod that helped with that but I'm not sorting through the 180+ list to figure it out

[languid pulsar]

I was playing on Polarus and ||I kept falling through the elevator trying to go back up||

[waxen panther]

o h

[languid pulsar]

Was not fun to experience during an eclipse lol

[waxen panther]

truee

[loud aspen]

just wanted to pop in and say that Asteroid 13 is fuckin incredible

probably my favorite moon out of all the modded moons

[willow plank]

dont trust clemonade hes a super villian

[half spade]

the outside spider on infernis deosnt really do anything; it just runs into a corner and then never moves again unless you hit it. is this just.. what happens when you put interior monsters outside

[willow plank]

thats just what it always has done, same for nutcracker on etern, is because their not normally meant outside

[valid yoke]

nutcrackers can however move outside

when they see you

[gloomy grove]

Same with spiders

They just will only do so if they are hit

Enemies seem to be able to use the Navmesh outside, it's the AI nodes that aren't properly getting set

Which is whats causing them all to get stuck in one spot

hopefully someone makes something like this soon
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1203082292289867806

I'd love to see an occasional functional Coil on Asteroid13

[charred hornet]

LLL issue

Ok just been to asteroid 13 for the first time

https://tenor.com/view/1000-quota-stare-lethal-company-1000-yard-stare-gif-8412969833343799422

yeah I made it the hardest in my pack

I love config

Free-Assurance, 7 6, 250-500 11-16,
Free-Vow, 7 7, 500-750 12-17,
Free-Dine, 7 8, 750-1000 17-21,
Free-atlas 13, 9 9 1000-1250 18-23,

**Intermediate**
250-Experimentation, 8 11, 1250-1750 15-20,
300-March, 10 12, 1500-2000 17-22,
350-Rend, 8 13, 1750-2250 20-25,
400-altantica, 8 14, 2000-2500 22-27,

**Hard**
700-Offense, 9 17, 2250-3000 20-30,
800-Gratar, 13 18, 2500-3250 23-33,
900-Polarus, 14 19, 2750-3500 25-35,
1000-Infernis, 11 20, 3000-3750 28-38,

**Very Hard**
1400-Etern, 13 24, 3250-4250 33-43,
1600-Acidir, 16 25, 3500-4500 35-45,
1800-Titan, 10 26, 3750-4750 38-48,
2000-Asteroid, 13 27, 4000-5000 40-50,```
I love manually configuring everything<3

the first number after the name is outdoor enemies count mostly based on the size of the moon and the # of doors

I made it so that in Easy the only new modded enemies are rolling giants and boombas inside, still those 2 in intermediate but rare chance for 096 and fiend, hard ditches the boomba and moves the rolling giant to daytime, Very hard puts 096 outside during the day as well and gives the fiend a pretty decent spawn chance

LethalLevelLoader the new funny 53 page config (yes I have a google doc backup)

[gloomy grove]

...is Titan set at 1800 cost

That's obscene, I'm sorry, I already barely go to lategame moons that cost more than 700

Kast is 1000 and I almost never go cuz I'd rather buy equipment

[brittle dove]

did the new update break the cost of the moons? They all cost 0 now

[gloomy grove]

@brittle dove LethalLevelLoader issue, you can adjust it with something like AdvancedCompany

Otherwise backport to LLL 1.0.7 until its fixed

It won't be fixed for a few days though

Batby on vacation iirc

[brittle dove]

I'll check it out. Although the last time I tried advance companies with the modded moons, nothing would load

[silent bridge]

How come 👀

(and at which version was it)

[gloomy grove]

Yeah idk, I got no issues with AC

[brittle dove]

I can't check at the moment because I'm away from my computer but it was a couple of days ago. If I try to load into infernis for example, it would stay stuck at the loading screen

[silent bridge]

Unsure if that is even caused by AC 🤔

[brittle dove]

No idea. All I know is that once I uninstalled it I was able to load properly again

I'll check again with advanced and see if the same problem happens.

Also IDK if this is common but sometimes when I load onto a moon with friends, the game crashes for everyone

[silent bridge]

that's not good 👀

how many mods do you have

and what are they

there may be some incompatibilities somewhere

[brittle dove]

Not counting any dependency mods, I got all of Wesley's moons, weather multipliers, open bodycams, late company,ship loot and three other moons by sfDesat

[silent bridge]

1. Weather Multipliers: AdvancedCompany has its own implementation of it
2. LateCompany: AdvancedCompany has its own implementation of it

That may be why but I don't know if I should assume that you have this WITH AC or you added them as alternatives AFTER removing AC

[brittle dove]

Ill disable those and try again with AC

[silent bridge]

yeah those mods are basically useless if you have AC since it has those features within it

[brittle dove]

Oh yea, and the Office interior mod. could that also cause issues

[silent bridge]

It shouldn't but I heard that there were some issues with Office interior currently with other mods. I am not sure what they are as I do not use the mod

Basically, I have no concrete knowledge about the issues that Office interior has with other mods

[brittle dove]

ok, I was able to load in after disabling the mods

[silent bridge]

Congrats!

[brittle dove]

I cant test with friends atm so idk if it will crash if we all try it

[silent bridge]

If you're down for it, I can help test as I have some time to spare. You can give me the profile code for it through DM

[brittle dove]

that sounds good. gimme like 5 min

[silent bridge]

take your time 👍

[brittle dove]

im ready

[silent bridge]

alright

[floral remnant]

atlantica doesnt seem to be spawning many if any enemies outside and inside

[native valve]

outside makes sense cus when i played it a lot of outside enemies spawned just outside but very close to the map floating for some reason lol

[floral remnant]

huh, weird

inside i saw as much as a hoarding bug, but thats abt it

im tryina modify some spawn rates through advanced company to check if its just the default values that are low

also, does the inside actually fill up overtime? or is it only visual?

[native valve]

it's only visual but i'm pretty sure it just disappears after a bit

or after someone ducks their head under for the first time

hard to tell

idk we'd have to ask wesley for the specifics

[floral remnant]

i feel like if it actually flooded inside it would need like... another dependency mood to make that work

[forest ruin]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/squirrelboydev/OopsAllFlooded/

[floral remnant]

yeah, exactly

[granite lily]

I liked the flooding visually but not mechanically so it's purely visual and lowers when you go deep enough

[forest ruin]

Couldve been awesome though if the water went up and down slowly at each interval, kinda like Mario sidescrolling levels where the water rises and falls.

10 second flood, 1 minute shallow

Causes a claustrophobic panic, but not a lethal one.~

[floral remnant]

makes sense! super cool moon btw, me and my friends love it

esp ||the animation at the start where buildings rise from the water||, that's cool as shit

[floral remnant]

oo this is a great idea actually

[forest ruin]

✨ Worst it could do is disrupt communication for a bit, and stamina. And.. possibly also claim a very few unfortunate lives that happen to follow the water up and down for some reason

[round dome]

(polarus spoilers) does ||employee 254 survive? nothing about his last note seems to imply anything went wrong, but i'm curious||

[granite lily]

||The fate of employee-254 is implied rather than directly stated||

[round dome]

man i'm listening to the infernis music again, this is so good

[round dome]

||i'm unsure of the note implies anything though?||

[granite lily]

||The other 3 letters give a few hints and clues as well||

[round dome]

would it be possible to make the gratar lights not only have the red lights be the fog? they still cast yellow lights onto surfaces which looks really weird with the red lights

also i think polarus' inside ambience should be much quieter

and maybe the atlantica ||water should be a bit lower (like puddle height), so it doesn't look like it's high enough to have to trudge through when you don't?||

[sage sky]

when are you planning on syncing the elevator on polarus between players? or the bridges on gratar. or is it even planned? @granite lily

[gentle grotto]

Is anyone else havign WILD lag when loading in on Polarus

[round dome]

i am, yeah

[floral remnant]

worms seem to not be working in atlantica unless you're in the water, weirdly enough

[charred hornet]

Worms are on Atlantica?

Qatar happens if you go in like scoopys sewer on Atlantica? Does the water get confused? Double water?

[floral remnant]

oh im using advanced company to switch around spawn rates

[charred hornet]

Ic

It’s normally what, just dogs?

[willow plank]

so far i seen giants and dogs on atlantica

[floral remnant]

yeah it's dogs and giants

but i feel like dogs are way too common on way too many moons

so i went for the giant + worm combo

but since worms aren't working too well i'll probably just do giants + outside blob

[limpid sandal]

is this normal? lol

[willow plank]

kind of yeah

Bunker Spider spawns on Infernis and Nutcracker spawns on etern outside

[marsh panther]

As @willow plank said, that normally happens. However, without an AI fixing mod of sorts, the inside enemies don't function correctly much outside

if you want them to function, get something like Lethal Escape

[limpid sandal]

yeah he was just chilling in the same spot lol

It'd be cool to get them to work but I dont actually want them to exit the facility

can you get the mod and disable that to make it work like an api for this?

for the ones that spawn outside

[floral remnant]

yeah!

[limpid sandal]

nice ty

[willow plank]

if theres more then one spider they all meet at the same spot, seems like they love that spot huh

also not a bad idea using lethal escape is just a global thing right?

[marsh panther]

I think Lethal escape has a config

and if it does - you can just disable all enemies from going in and out

but having the mod alone fixes their pathing outside (i think... I haven't done this myself)

[modest willow]

I have lethal escape i dont think it patches their pathfinding

[cobalt zealot]

Absolutely in love with these moons

cookin up a little somethin involving them

[void basin]

YO

How are you changing the routing prices per moon?

And btw, have you seen this suggestion post?

#1199474436303245373 message

[cobalt zealot]

I'm using LethalQuantities rn but when LLL gets fixed I'm doing it through that

Also yeah, that idea is pretty cool

Would definatly fit the packk

[void basin]

From the sounds of things, agreed

I really hope someone makes it

I have 0 experience modding but may try my hand at it if its been a few months and nobody's interested

though the LLL dev Batby said they might spend a day or two making a prototype of it

[void basin]

also same

they're stunningly good

[cobalt zealot]

With the functions that the new LLL update has, he's pretty close

Other than the visual appearance its basically there

[valid yoke]

i would think the same thing although i seen issues of the config being ignored

in the github

[desert girder]

The number of nutcrackers on Etern, especially when they all just walk to ship and sit outside of it, really kind of ruins it for me. I think if there weren't so many, or if they were wandering the map like baboon hawks, I wouldn't mind it.

It's a shame that indoor enemies don't really path well outside

[sage sky]

i have lethal escape but the bunker spider didnt move for me and didnt make any damage. essentially it was just a statue i could walk through. i thought its just a visual thing

[marsh panther]

:c - Dunno then.

[round dome]

@granite lily quick reminder of my suggestions here

[lapis cargo]

bug with asteriod-13, i turned on the power switch as the host and my friend's pov stayed like this

[granite lily]

Not sure if I can change the lights themselves since that's more of a dungeon thing
I am going to do something with the indoor water on Atlantica

[granite lily]

Yeah any intractable features outside are desynced, not entirely sure how to fix that yet

[lapis cargo]

the guys #dev-general might know

[floral remnant]

even lethal escape doesn't fix some outside enemy bugs, it's kinda rough

lethal escape also isn't even on v1.0 yet so there's that

[floral remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/based-kneel-dark-souls-gif-24182729

I'm going insane

[tired raft]

The same thing with elevator on other planet.
When you press the button everyone see that you're sinking in the floor.
Such things aren't synchronized

[lapis cargo]

the elevator in LC office works tho?

such things probably can be synchronised

lol

[shell owl]

is spotlight item supposed to be discharging so quickly?

[tired raft]

Of course it can be.
I meant that it's not synchronized yet

[lapis cargo]

oh lol, yeah ik

[tired raft]

I am not a LC modder, but LC Office which was mentioned before uses xilophor-LethalNetworkAPI.
I think it may help 🙂

[shell owl]

accident logs are broken

[sage sky]

@granite lily #1204432295025578014 message ?

[granite lily]

?

[granite lily]

Yeah that's the plan
I know the ether moon has synced interactable features so we're asking how they did it

[shell owl]

for us they just play and play all the time and i dont think its intentional
oh wait is it not your scrap
if its not im sorry

[willow plank]

funniest part was when my friend saw me floating over gratars emergency "plattform" ||that would fall over in a circle|| and asking me if i can fly lmao

[granite lily]

It should just play when you turn it on and stop when it's finished

[torn burrow]

This was a screenshot from an Infernis using MI's interior. I know the orangeish lighting is one of Infernis' unique quirks like Gratar's red lights, but I also noticed a prominent lighting that moves relative to the sun's position that heavily bleeds into the Bunker interior almost like it's trying to light the interior like it would the surface. I thought it may be an issue with the interior specifically, but the bleeding also appears in factory, just far less noticeably. Is this lighting bleed through intended or nah?

[lapis cargo]

i think i saw that lighting bleeding through before in one of wesley's moons yeah

[round dome]

i think it'd be neat if the asteroid 13 lights turned off automatically at like, 6 pm

[willow plank]

he did mention light levels do be different on some corridors

[round dome]

@granite lily after going downwards inside atlantica, the water started infinitely lowering. after i went outside, all the rain effects from it being stormy disappeared.

also all the moons seem to use the christmas dropship for some reason

[granite lily]

1. that's intended for now
2. I know, that's a LE bug as far as I know
3. That's right, this has been changed on LE but not on LECore yet

[rose bramble]

what is the naming for asteriod 13? for custom interiors

[topaz star]

Just use Asteroid for the name. From some mods I use, use these names and weight #s.

• Asteroid
• Asteroid@500
• Asteroid500

[rose bramble]

ty

[rose bramble]

all my custom moons that have custom interiors on are pretty laggy for some reason

[round dome]

other LE moons seem to have been able to fix the weather issue though. also, i thought the water just lowered to keep the same height with you instead of vanishing permanently when you go down a bit

[willow plank]

scarlet and scp use @

[granite lily]

Oh, didn't know that
I'll look further into it then

[round dome]

i've only just seen the population of polarus

i think i know what happened to employee 254

[round dome]

i've just had the worst time on polarus :(

[granite lily]

lol, what happened

[round dome]

mansion + boomba + blob + two nutcrackers + worm + three dogs + giant

[granite lily]

A mild case of chaos

[round dome]

the worst part was at the end when i rode the elevator up. i had two peepers on me and there was a dog next to the ship. i learned the worst way that peepers make noise when close to dogs. but i lived! friend didn't though. got wormed.

[willow plank]

A normal day in Lethal Company

[round dome]

i'm rating polarus 0 stars on yelp

[granite lily]

"The customer service was very rude"

[round dome]

does anyone know any interiors that fit with these moons? currently all i have is dungeon for infernis

main entrance ping for gratar is messed up

[willow plank]

Infernis with Bunker
Gratar with SCP
Atlantica with Sewers/Dungeon/Mansion/Scarlet Mansion
Etern with Dungeon or Office

the second main entrance ping is on the door

[granite lily]

whoops lol

[teal rune]

@granite lily how do you make your moons tho?

[round dome]

@granite lily i think the whirring ambience in polarus should be really reduced. the levi noises are fine, but i think they'd be better if they were interrupting mostly silence

[dense tangle]

Booooo I like it (I made it 🙃)

It is a bit loud though

It's also literally the hum of a fridge, I thought it was funny lol

[round dome]

pfft

[round dome]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-sideye-cat-cat-staring-side-eye-cat-side-eye-gif-14813005665353532624

[rose bramble]

is it possiblet o use this with LCMAXSOUNDSFIX, it causes severe lag for me on custom interiors on modded moons

[hasty scaffold]

is anyone else having a problem where this doesnt load on multiplayer

[lapis cargo]

Lcmaxsoundsfix is causing you lag on custom interiors?

[cobalt zealot]

It could be that some interiors have a unintended trigger for some of the sounds Wesley has (I have no actual idea or skilled information). I had one instance with a friend group on Gratar and Sewer Interior, the announcer guy kept saying lines one after another coming from my friends character

it was either sewer or office interior I don't remember, but the point still stands

[half spade]

feels like (if possible) that the default outdoors music that plays in lethal company should be disabled on maps like infernis that have intro music

[frail crag]

After installing CustomWormTiming idk how I ever lived without it ||considering worms can give you a minimum grace period of like 0.33 seconds b4 instakilling lol|| they're sorta one of the few vanilla things that can be straight up unfair

[vague hawk]

You have 1 second to move before it attacks from ground shake, not .33 seconds 😛

[round dome]

it's random

[frail crag]

ye it's (according to the customtimings guy) ||a range from 0.33 seconds - 2 seconds||

[vague hawk]

Unless something has changed it's never been 2 seconds either for attack after ground shake? I am actually genuinely confused. I don't think any game ever had a kill graceperiod ever be .3 seconds let alone anything below .7 second :S Human reaction isn't even this fast.

[silent bridge]

Sometimes the worm just decides to take its time before it launches to the air (I've experienced it a few times)

[round dome]

wiki says it's true

[vague hawk]

Lol I am on the wiki 💀

[round dome]

https://lethal.miraheze.org/wiki/Earth_Leviathan

[vague hawk]

It's wrong. The audio played before the ground shake is even a second long, .33 second timer after that wouldn't even give enough time for the audio to play and would end up overlapping- this doesn't happen in vanilla?

[round dome]

the audio can loop

[vague hawk]

Overlap I said, not loop.

[round dome]

overlap with what?

[vague hawk]

Ground shake/Emerge audio track.

They would overlap if this was the case.

Never encountered this in vanilla.

[cobalt zealot]

If theres a mod thats been made then i'd assume buddy's atleast looked into it to even both making it in the first place. We're talking about an event that happens within a second, I figured they just had overlap anyways

Why are we even arguing about this

[vague hawk]

Because the grace period isn't .33 seconds, this in turn means that the game is designed to make you fail without any counter. 🙂

[round dome]

it doesn't overlap, it just stops the other audio track. tested it.

[round dome]

it is though?

code says so

[vague hawk]

Okay ^^

If it was .33 seconds for audio to play - I would believe it but .33 seconds for kill, I think is misunderstood by someone. 🙂

[cobalt zealot]

Thats just a fail factor, theres other conditions with the worm chasing that consists of the danger of the entity. You can disengage the chase via gamer skills but if you allow it to catch you then thats your fault

it being a possible .33 is no flaw in my eyes

[vague hawk]

okay sure ^^

[cobalt zealot]

it follows the same "unfair" rules as the Snare Flea

[vague hawk]

Okay ^^

[frail crag]

It has a grace period for targetting and a grace period for emerging. For sake of explanation here, "targetting" is when you hear it mumble, "emerging" is when you see the particles. I think the emerging time can be as low as .33 seconds. I don't know the exact targetting time but it can also be very low. I've personally experienced around a .5 second time between targetting -> emerging -> kill, which was not reactable.

[cobalt zealot]

Thats what I said, why was I tagged?

[frail crag]

Bc you said it was always player fault, but a non-reactable .5 seconds is not something you can physically avoid lol

[cobalt zealot]

but you have the whole chase sequence

[frail crag]

Also I think that only occurs when it targets you but also happens to be randomly beneath you. Usually it targetting you means it takes a sec to get under you, but if it happens to RNG under you before actually targetting it instakills basically

Only counterplay would be a terminal person telling you to run bc you wouldn't know it was under you if it wasn't attacking you yet

[cobalt zealot]

?? unless it spawns under you, sure

I've never seen it just teleport

[frail crag]

Nah they can wander under you without attacking you

[cobalt zealot]

Never had that

[frail crag]

At least I'm pretty sure I've seen/experienced it a few times

I have definitely experienced a nonreactable occurence more than once, and seen it. I've also seen them wander under someone and pass them under on terminal and then they go back and start targetting them

So just puttin 2+2 together there, bit of conjecture but idk how it can be any other way

You're just a lucky one who never had it happen to ya lol

[cobalt zealot]

hell of odds

[lapis cargo]

200+ hours here and never seen the worm not attack when it's under, I was under the impression that while you're close by it makes its chase sound then when it's under you it jumps up, the jump is anywhere between 0.33 and 2 seconds from what they said above which makes sense from my playing around

And you can definitely react to 0.33 seconds of a kill when you're literally being screamed warnings by the chase audio lol

Anyway, as this is not relevant to this thread, please try to keep it down

[frail crag]

Ye idk my fellas, that's just been my experience(s).
Relevant to Wesley's Moons, I'm noticing dropships aren't appearing anymore. Like I'll buy something and it won't drop, and the NEXT moon (if it's vanilla?) it'll drop. Is anyone else having that issue? I figure since I haven't seen anyone else mention it it's probably some other mod conflict.

[lapis cargo]

I havent bought in a while so idk tbh

[willow plank]

the best part about acidir is that it looks almost like the huge hotel from upturned

[forest ruin]

Been experiencing it too, though Masa never got on Wesley's Moons. It was like..
We went: Maritopia -> Ether (Restart because bugs) Ether -> Maritopia -> Triskelion

[frail crag]

Ah, I'm also experiencing on non-wesley moons too it seems lol. Confirmation bias or whatver just from ONLY going to wesley moons like 90% of the time if I'm going to a modded moon.

[umbral sage]

I haven't had that problem, likely is an incompatibility issue. On another note, all of the moons' costs got automatically set to 0 for me. Does anyone know what the price for Atlantis and Asteroid-13 are supposed to be so I can fix it with AC?

[modest willow]

no clue i just set them all to 200

[vague hawk]

Asteroid is a free moon and Atlantica is 130

[rose ginkgo]

I'm trying to get the custom dungeon mods (Scoopy's, MoreInteriors, SCP, etc) working on the Wesley maps and can't get them to work. The only one that does work is ScarletDevilMansion. Any clue why that's the case / possible fixes?

[round dome]

how do you have their configs set?

[rose ginkgo]

The config for the dungeon mods are set to "all" for which moons they can spawn on. LLL is left mostly default.

[round dome]

what rarity do you have them at?

[rose ginkgo]

I set all to 300 equally

They all load on vanilla maps just fine, but not modded. I keep trying to tweak the config to no avail

[round dome]

maybe try downgrading LLL to 1.0.7? you'd have to downgrade moreinteriors to 2.1.0 and downgrade SDM to 1.2.1 aswell. the most recent versions of LLL are rather buggy, especially with LE moons

[rose ginkgo]

Will try that now, will get back to you

[rose ginkgo]

do you know if I'd need to downgrade Scoopy's as well?

[vague hawk]

Scoopy no you wont need to.

[round dome]

nah

[rose ginkgo]

or LC Office

[round dome]

office and scoopys are fine\

[rose ginkgo]

Thank you all for the help!

It worked I believe, got 4 different maps with some testing, seems all better 🙂

[round dome]

your welcome! make sure not to accidentally update them again

[shell owl]

is asteroid more of a mansion-based or a faiclity-based map
just wondering

[round dome]

facility based i think

[forest ruin]

Feels like it

[shell owl]

yeah but when i and my friends played it we encountered quite a bit of mansions

[granite lily]

Facility has a higher chance than mansion
I believe it's 220 facility and 80 mansion

[sage sky]

is it planned to optimize polarus more? its the laggiest one when loading in. it takes so much time :D

[granite lily]

Eventually, got my hands full fixing the desyncing issues atm

[sage sky]

okay, that's also a good topic to work on. Thank you

[rose bramble]

Nvm I was wrong

But for some reason

Wesley’s moons are all super laggy with a custom interior on it

For me

No zingers moons

[willow plank]

Not for me, i would assume your PC might not be strong enough or you run to many moons for your rams to handle or something

[rose bramble]

Nah it’s not that

A mod conflicting

It worked fine before

And I have a pretty decent pc

[willow plank]

most moons are over 1gb thats why i assumed that, heh in the end i still wait for zeekerss to optimize the game more

[rose bramble]

before it wasent like that tho

there is def a conflict

cause it only happens when there is a custom interiro

[thorn plume]

do the moons have cfg for setting up the price?

[rose bramble]

no but you can use advanced company or lethal quantities

[thorn plume]

how do u use advanced company to change them? they dont seem to show up on the list

[balmy elm]

Load up a save (new or existing) once so that any modded enemies/scrap/moons get populated

[rose bramble]

you need to host the world with the mods at least once

[rose bramble]

yea

[balmy elm]

Then just go back to that preset and edit it accordingly

[thorn plume]

ah that makes sense. I will try that. Thank you so much!

[balmy elm]

np

[valid yoke]

is comocos out yet

[round dome]

not yet

[gloomy grove]

@granite lily You're gonna wanna see this for sure
#1194042915840872548 message

Might have a fix for your Spiders and Nutcrackers and other unholy creations soon

[rose bramble]

do all moons here use lethal expansion core?

[rose bramble]

still having issues, when ever I use any moons from wesleys moon, with a custom interior, there a big framerate deduction

[balmy elm]

iirc yes all 7 use LECore

[hasty kite]

everytime i try to land at asteroid its just a waiting for crew message

[keen elm]

what are the internal names for Wesleys moons

[rose bramble]

there name

[keen elm]

ok

[rose bramble]

lll when tho

[keen elm]

are astriod and atlantica supposed to cost 0 or is my modpack tweaking

[modest willow]

They are infact not supposed to be 0

LLL is i think wat caused it but idk

[keen elm]

do i need a ladder

to cross this

[lapis cargo]

There should be land usually

Sometimes the bridges get sunk too

[keen elm]

oh

nooo my items

[keen elm]

not gamebreaking or a prominent issue but coil heads outside of asteroid just group up in one area and walk slowly while being observed
only noticable with escape company though

[gloomy grove]

This is why they don't spawn on Asteroid outside by default iirc. However this will be fixed soon by @blissful light

[keen elm]

Wow nice

[gloomy grove]

For now, you can watch the Coils hit the griddy or whatever the cool kids say

[keen elm]

Lmfaoo

[rose bramble]

do the moons have plans to move over to LLL?

[hasty kite]

still have this issue

everytime i try to land at asteroid its just a waiting for crew message

[jovial beacon]

sooo

with the ai fix out, it seems like Etern has become a tad bit harder

[gloomy grove]

Makes sense

But I think that's a good thing considering it's a 750 cost moon

Nutcrackers also have a relatively low spawnrate

[halcyon creek]

AI fix?

[granite lily]

I'll probably end up doing some balancing because Baboon Hawk army + Giants + Working Nutcrackers = pretty much impossible later on in the day

[lapis cargo]

the problem with etern wasnt just that the AI was messed up tho, didnt the moon spawn infinite nut crackers lmao

[granite lily]

.. that too

[gloomy grove]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1206494982521753620

Says Starlancer but works on any moon

Also yeah, spawning more nutcrackers than intended probably should be fixed

[lapis cargo]

every moon in that pack has a unique feature ---> every moon in that pack has a unique bug

[gloomy grove]

The joys of making unique things

[granite lily]

With the AI fix I'll probably end up giving the new moons their own inside enemy outside as well

[lapis cargo]

it is very funny- albeit also very creative, i do genuinely enjoy these moons lol

[gloomy grove]

I'd personally like some new moons to not have special enemies outside

Gameplay gimmicks are more fun

I also haven't used Atlantica or Polarus yet

Atlantica because of the Atlas Abyss LLL conflict, and Polarus because I really don't need another cold moon in the difficulty spawn of Rend/Dine/Titan

I honestly feel dropping Polarus at Dine difficulty was a mistake, but that's a personal preference

[lapis cargo]

i thought that conflict stops atlas from working lol

oh well, its fixed now anyway

[gloomy grove]

It does

And I like Atlas

So I won't install Atlantica

[lapis cargo]

lol, fair

[granite lily]

If that's still an issue, I'll probably end up changing the name to something else

[lapis cargo]

nah it got fixed

batby came back a few hours ago and knocked out a few bugs lol

[granite lily]

Oh lol

[gloomy grove]

Fix ain't uploaded yet so it ain't fixed for me

:|

Jkjk

[granite lily]

Did you guys know that Etern is Area 51?

Me neither lol

[modest willow]

I infact did not

[marsh panther]

is this legit?...

[gloomy grove]

[granite lily]

According to gamerant it is lmao

[marsh panther]

oh so you didn't upload it there

[lapis cargo]

lmao

[marsh panther]

wait- I feel like that already goes against some shit to upload it 'n not even use the darn text from where it was originally uploaded to

I almost got gaslit into thinking what I recalled from the damn page was wrong

[lapis cargo]

I dont think theres any problems about making an article about a mod

[modest willow]

You made the mod

[marsh panther]

there is when they don't just copy 'n paste the descriptors the dev themselves used . -.

[modest willow]

How?? did you not know???

[marsh panther]

It's a knockoff map - true easter egg. 5% of the time, the outside changes to a knockoff etern where a sign that says "area 51" is crudely nailed above the main entrance. With many signs saying "Stay away, government property" and "aliens don't exist here"

[granite lily]

I don't know, I think I just skipped over that bit of lore when I was writing it
Glad gamerant corrected me though

[gloomy grove]

[modest willow]

XD

[marsh panther]

Hello internet, and welcome to Game Theory - where today we discover the hidden lore of Etern. Now, if you know Among Us-

[gloomy grove]

Oh wesley, what's your planned spawnrate for Asteroid13 Coils

so I can go ahead and plop it into AdvancedCompany

Since I have to alter every moon I have installed individually

--;

[marsh panther]

AC took the rarities of mine o ,o

the darn coilhead has like 40+ probability

which is insane .- .

although now that I think about it, I also recall a distinct lack of landmines

[gloomy grove]

Nah I'm referring to outdoors

[marsh panther]

is that on purpose?

[granite lily]

It's going to depend on how coilheads wander and how long it takes for one to find a player

[marsh panther]

outdoor coilheads? Are you nuts ._.

[gloomy grove]

And also AC takes my rarities, I'm moreso saying I have to alter them in my pack

[gloomy grove]

Yes

[granite lily]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-grin-smirk-bad-gif-19562077

[gloomy grove]

StarlancerAIFix makes it possible, so it must happen

:3

[marsh panther]

Nonononono

[gloomy grove]

Just like the outdoor Spiders and Nutcrackers

[marsh panther]

See- that's humanity's issue

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should >:x

[gloomy grove]

Okay but for Asteroid13 you absolutely should

[marsh panther]

https://tenor.com/view/sogga-big-floppa-floppa-approve-gif-22537201

[modest willow]

You fool you think coil heads are a problem

Jesters my friend

[marsh panther]

I put coil heads over jesters

[gloomy grove]

Honestly outdoor Coils aren't that bad when the only other enemies are dogs and Masked

Just gotta be aware of your surroundings

[marsh panther]

if it wasn't for forest keeper's existence, Coil heads would be the #1 worst enemy in the game.

[granite lily]

99% chance for outside coils on asteroid
1% chance for jester

[gloomy grove]

That said, I'm evil and putting Coils outside on Orion

that is gonna be brutal

[lapis cargo]

wasnt it said that jesters dont work outside yet?

[modest willow]

Idk

[granite lily]

Haven't tried yet so idk

[gloomy grove]

I believe they function with AIFix but are incredibly oppressive and unfair

[marsh panther]

Jesters outside were awful last I had that done in some event mod a few months back

[gloomy grove]

So they're not recommended

[marsh panther]

Basically, if you didn't go inside - you're screwed

door doesn't even stop it

[modest willow]

I mean with lethal escape i made it so jesters are only 6% fast

not the bullshit 18 :/

[marsh panther]

If whoever gets the jester to work outside works on the AI, have it somehow deem players in the ship with the door shut as non-targets and will close if no players are detectable outside

because if they go through the darn ship door - it's worse than a forest keeper, and that's bloody impressive

[lapis cargo]

yeah "apparently" jesters dont work

[modest willow]

oooooof

[granite lily]

Makes for a good scare though lol

[modest willow]

Right

[gloomy grove]

[marsh panther]

I had them function prior to update 47 - I'm glad they're broken rn

[gloomy grove]

That actually makes a lot of sense

I wonder if they function if someone is inside

Like, will they stay popped open while there's a player inside

[marsh panther]

That's what it was prior

[gloomy grove]

Since they likely check "Are all players outside? If yes, close"

[marsh panther]

it was literally unfair >~>

[gloomy grove]

But if someone's inside and someone triggers an outdoor Jester... 👀

[lapis cargo]

probably funny zeekers code

[marsh panther]

I personally would've just made it to where if it can't pathfind to a player in 30 attempts, close

[modest willow]

So they pop realize nobodys inside and are like

https://tenor.com/view/clown-mcdonalds-thumbs-down-i-dont-think-so-gif-19692223

[granite lily]

If it takes a while for a coil head to find a player on the surface
I might just spawn one right of the bat

[gloomy grove]

Just place one on the moon as a Prefab

Don't even spawn it

Just put it in the ship

[granite lily]

lol, I'll have it spawn somewhere random along the edge of the map

[modest willow]

Huh

[granite lily]

?

[modest willow]

Landmine on my ship

[granite lily]

oh LOL

Well.. don't get on top of the ship

[modest willow]

Saw it floating in the air as i was landing XD

[granite lily]

I wonder if that could happen with a turret

[modest willow]

Probably

had a turret on exp in one of the train carts

im at the company

due to a poison effect i got sent there

also

My friends never gunna know >:)

[gloomy grove]

oh god

[modest willow]

I dont know if it works yet

AC i have it set so monsters can spawn there

I changed it so they have a higher chance to spawn

[silent bridge]

Console is spamming this error whenever we play Acidir

[granite lily]

fun

[silent bridge]

Sometimes, Forest Giants also just get stuck in place like this. Even if I try to provoke them by being on their line of sight, they don't move

[granite lily]

Yeah I'm just going to throw a wild guess here and say that those 2 issues are related lol

I'll fix it for next patch

[frail crag]

Did you do anything to affect the giant? I had a similar laggy log spam when I tried the kill everything mod. Took it off bc of that (and giants just stand there and don't actually despawn lol)

Also I'm lovin the outside nutcrackers on etern with the fix, never really seen too many - baboon hawks on the other hand....
But I have the motion sense giant mod so it between giants/nutcrackers it turns the outside into red light green light, very fun

[granite lily]

That sounds like a really interesting challenge actually

[frail crag]

The giant hide areas are also great places to hide when the nutcrackers are chasing and get them back to patrolling. Hard to blame that article bc it really does feel like breaking into area 51 with a bunch of nutcrackers marching around patrolling

The baboon hawks cramp it a bit tho, like I said. I don't think they should be totally removed per se, but I've seen like 10+ of them lol

[granite lily]

lol
most of the rock piles don't have any navmesh in them so they should protect you from pretty much everything

[granite lily]

Yeah, I've seen baboon hawk armies of like 10 camp the ship
So they're definitely getting their spawnrate lowered next patch

Instant death

[frail crag]

Yeah... it's rough. I wish the yelling at them thing people thought worked bc of the bestiary entry actually did work at dissueding them from attacking. Because without that they just bully.

[granite lily]

Giants might be unfair at times but an army of baboon hawks is way worse

[cerulean aurora]

Someone has the codename of the Asteroid13?
I wanna set a custom dungeon in there

[granite lily]

It's just Asteroid

[cerulean aurora]

Thx!

[cobalt zealot]

uhh? what do you mean?

I've seen plenty people talk about this but I don't have the issue?

[stoic quiver]

Hi, does anyone know where cosmocos is?

[cobalt zealot]

in development

[lapis cargo]

Not released afaik

[stoic quiver]

hmm

[forest ruin]

Cosmocos is somewhere in the void. Try a bunch of unorthodox moon names maybe, or try some things out with a certain scrap you can find on the Wesley moons 🤔

https://tenor.com/view/muhahaha-muhaa-evil-evil-laugh-duck-gif-18128094925251931977

[stoic quiver]

if cosmocos is not released yet
why is it on the list

[cobalt zealot]

because its planned within the series of moons

[stoic quiver]

hmm

makes sense

it's a bit mysterious

[forest ruin]

Cosmocos

The cryptid of moons

[silent bridge]

No

I don't have mods that modify the giant in any way

[granite lily]

I mean.. where is Cosmocos?

[granite lily]

What is the most underused enemy on modded moons?

[silent bridge]

Let's see... I haven't seen a spore lizard one just yet

But I guess that is for a good reason

(and maybe blobs)

[frail crag]

As masa has mentioned, a full spider (maybe + lootbug) planet would be cool. Maybe a moon with ||multiple ghost girls? if that is even possible to code in||

[granite lily]

I had multiple brackens at one point, surely it's possible

I wonder if that's still the case on Acidir

[frail crag]

might be a lil cringe to have multiple ghost girls or brackens but it can't be worse than ||the asteroid||, and tbh when the vibe is immaculate I don't think people mind. Like, coilheads on average kinda suck and can be quite unfun but having a full coilhead moon with ||lore and springs and coilheads in the ground and coilhead sfx as ambience noises and it's really spooky and cool|| makes it get so wack that it flips back to being ok again. the "rule of cool" frfr

another example of that is atlantica during flooded weather. Normally flooded weather is just poopy but ofc on atlantica with ||the buildings sinking slowly along with the rising water|| it's craaaazy cool

[forest ruin]

Snare Fleas

[lapis cargo]

Gross

[forest ruin]

Because you know, they physically couldnt be around

[lapis cargo]

Spore lizards are not really used, but that's cuz they don't really do much

[granite lily]

Gameplay wise Spore lizards are more of a scare enemy
I do really like the concept of Spore lizards tho

[jovial beacon]

I shat myself hearing the coilhead ambient noise on asteroid thanks

[granite lily]

LOL

[jovial beacon]

oh man xD

it genuinely did scare the shit out of me

it was such a surprise

[granite lily]

Now imagine that mixed in with real coil heads lol

[jovial beacon]

okay no I did what I wanted to do and I completely regret it, I got chills down my spine

I made the siren head spawn on asteroid

via LLL configs

do not do that, friendly advice

[granite lily]

Lol what

[cobalt zealot]

siren head good?

saw the mod post but no information

[jovial beacon]

its lacking a few animations and some sounds but it gets the job done I'd say

putting them on asteroid was like, straight up horror

can giants spawn on asteroid?

i forgor what default config is

[granite lily]

Only dogs and masked

For now

[jovial beacon]

for now 💀

[frail crag]

That reminds me, a fren I was playing with had "feedback" lol.
He was disappointed the spring scrap didn't also make a boingy sound when you dropped it. Maybe not that it should make the exact same coilhead sound, but if I recall it sounded pretty different from "their" springs.

[jovial beacon]

anyway, overall

im so surprised you managed to make such a simple concept as an asteroid

work so well

its crazy

[vague hawk]

Animations broke from when I tried it

[hasty kite]

everytime i try to land at asteroid its just a waiting for crew message

[forest ruin]

Siren Head is in early dev but got early released p much

[rose bramble]

Plans to move to LLL in the future?

[round dome]

Snare fleas, spore lizards, jesters, earth leviathans, ghost girl, maybe brackens.

Well, jesters and ghost girl for reasonably balanced moons atleast.

[rose bramble]

Brackens

[round dome]

Honestly, the most overused enemy on modded moons seems to be turrets.

[round dome]

i wonder why eyeless dogs live on asteroid 13. there's no food and probably not even an atmosphere, how did they even get there?

[granite lily]

This lore unfriendly issue will be adjusted

[floral remnant]

i was thinking the same thing for atlantica

since the place floods often, they'd either drown or die of starvation due to lack of food

[lapis cargo]

you're right

why do we even have monsters in infernus

they should just burn

get rid of all monsters in all moons

i dun like em

[dense tangle]

not sure what else would work in atlantica

[round dome]

so it goes

maybe the dogs would move into the bunker, they've probably got oxygen generators in there and they can feed on the bugs that occasionally show up there

[forest ruin]

You wouldnt like the answer but

Baboonhawks

Either them or Snare Fleas

Centipedes like moist areas from what Masa gathered

[frail crag]

imo the giants look like they fit in way less for atlantica. lil too big to look right walking around the little land bridges. Dogs on atlantica are fine because they clearly just burrow when it floods and then unburrow again when it's drier... like earthworms lol

[floral remnant]

worms tbh

[floral remnant]

not like they don't also walk thru the bridge in vow just fine

[floral remnant]

my thoughts exactly!

[forest ruin]

Worms would work if they dont actually need the player in order to jump up lol. Atlantica's environment design is too much based on pillars and spires above the water

Worms need large flat surfaces, like deserts. Places that feel endless, which look like they can become a playground for worms

Speaking of worms...

[floral remnant]

yeah, they also break with atlantica's level design

[frail crag]

dis is tru, but also the atlantica land connecting bits are even more narrow at some points than those bridges which can make it look sorta strange. Also just for gameplay purposes giants in such an open space with few places to go doesn't mix super well, but it's not a big deal either way.

[floral remnant]

since they only appear at the bottom where the water is

[forest ruin]

Yeah

[floral remnant]

tru true

[forest ruin]

Masa would say snare fleas & spiders tbh, or baboonhawks 'perching' on the spires

Atlantica DOES have enough roofs for snare fleas

[round dome]

sunlight kills snare fleas

[forest ruin]

Wot

It.. it does?

[round dome]

its in the bestiary 👍

[floral remnant]

yeh

[forest ruin]

Huh, that's like the one bestiary Masa never checked out it seems 😅

Snare Fleas at night

[floral remnant]

i honestly can't think of many enemies that could realistically live outside in atlantica that would also work with the moon design

[round dome]

i don't think atlantica even has outside enemies?

other than manticoils

[floral remnant]

it has like 78 chance for dogs on the AC menu, so idk

[forest ruin]

If it was more riverside Masa could guaranteed say like, Roaming Locusts & Spiders. Baboonhawks are a maybe but their design does feel very forest-y

Without looking at the bestiary, ofc

[round dome]

maybe hygroderes, the water's coming alive

[forest ruin]

Maybe

[floral remnant]

yeah! i actually config'd it so hydroderes spawned outside thru ac

they get stuck on the cliffsides though

also, outside ai clumping

[round dome]

#1206494982521753620 fixes that

[forest ruin]

Masa doesnt have any configs like that tbh, playing more off LethalEscape & SLAI

[floral remnant]

i saw, yeah!

hopefuly more moons support it

[agile oak]

Every moon should support it already

[floral remnant]

oh sick

[round dome]

if by support you mean having enemies spawn outside by default, maybe

[agile oak]

If it doesn’t that means there’s a navmesh issue

[round dome]

if by support you mean the enemies being able to be outside then yeah all moons already should

[floral remnant]

installing that shit frame 1

[round dome]

[agile oak]

Install it and let us know if it works!

[crude pumice]

Do these moons support custom dungeons? I feel like I don't ever see them spawn

[round dome]

i wonder what enemies fit outside on gratar

[round dome]

they do, you might just be unlucky or not have custom dungeons set up to spawn there

[crude pumice]

I set my dungeons to spawn on free moons, so far I've only gotten infernis to use maps like office or bunker

[round dome]

asteroid 13 might not though unless the config for a dungeon is set to all, because asteroid has numbers which might conflict with the rarity choice

[round dome]

none of these moons are free

except asteroid

[crude pumice]

💀I don't know what's causing that then

All of the moons are free for me, I don't have a mod that would change their price

[forest ruin]

Masa will 200% stand by the opinion of making the Earth Leviathans part of Polarus tho

[round dome]

they already spawn on polarus

[forest ruin]

The environment SCREAMS Earth Leviathans, the ambience screams Earth Leviathans, the blood writing at the mainn etrance at Etern screams Earth Leviathans

A-

OH.

Oh dear..

[round dome]

LLL's versions above 1.0.7 break the pricing of LE moons

[crude pumice]

Ah alright ty for telling me

Would the new version also be causing the dungeons not being used?

[forest ruin]

Do the Earth Leviathans work on Polarus?

Like as in, do they burrow out?

[round dome]

i dunno. if you use more interiors, scoopy's variety mod or scarlet devil mansion though you'll have to downgrade them a version.

[floral remnant]

im trying to get on atlantica to test the ai fix and it's giving me this

[round dome]

considering i watched my friend die infront of me with an "OH NOO-", they definitely do work

[floral remnant]

also im stuck on this

[forest ruin]

Good to know LOL

[round dome]

looks like it's an issue with the dungeon

[floral remnant]

it should only have the two default dungeons

i have more interiors and LLL installed but not it shouldn't be in atlantica

[round dome]

what version do you have LLL and more interiors on?

[round dome]

try downgrading LLL to v1.0.7 and more interiors to v2.1.0, the most recent LLL version breaks LE moons a bit and the most recent more interiors version is made for the most recent LLL version

[floral remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/can-we-get-this-fact-checked-fact-fact-check-wierzba-gif-16789599576515530468

soul crushing

[crude pumice]

I'll try it but I think I might just be unlucky, especially with the config issues I've been trying to fix 😭 ty

[polar bobcat]

Yea newest updste shits itself

[vague hawk]

In all honesty I've dropped LE right now just in case no one takes on continuing its development 😛

[round dome]

i've fortified gratar with boombas and shockwave drones

okay maybe the boombas were a bad idea ow

[vague hawk]

Outside? @round dome

[cobalt zealot]

100% I've been spreading awareness

[round dome]

yeah

[vague hawk]

Boombas have no outside.ai 😛

[round dome]

with #1206494982521753620 they do

[vague hawk]

I thought that only applies to Tresk and Auralis?

[round dome]

nope

would be a little dumb if it did

[cobalt zealot]

I guess this means I'm changing the Immortal Snail spawnrate...

[round dome]

oh my god, the army

[vague hawk]

THORLAR! 😄

[vague hawk]

I mean it's named after the moonpack, easy assumption to be made. Will look into this then alongside "NavMeshInCompany" and when SavageCompany doing a little collab of chaos :3

[round dome]

just make sure not to go too wild with it

[vague hawk]

Should be fine with tame ai, want to see how this makes Coilheads behave outside :3

Thanks for info @round dome

[lapis cargo]

it applies to every moon, ever

all it does is just change an enemy's AI from inside to outside, or other way around

[vague hawk]

Yeah Autumnis said, also checked source - gonna have some fun with this :3 tehehee

[round dome]

its horrifying being chased to the elevator on polarus by a very angry nutcracker

i got snuck up on by one without hearing it at all till i got shot so i'm reconsidering having nutcrackers outside on polarus

[vague hawk]

Uhmmm it works xD

Apparently I am safe in Casino 😄

[round dome]

they're scared of gambling

[vague hawk]

Fiend deffo but Coildhead seems to like the slots xD

[oak tree]

well probably because the mod doesnt count for a casino to be on the company moon

[vague hawk]

No it's just because the floor is off the ground, so they can't find a path to you. 👍

They have no issue pathing through the wall where slot machines are ^^

[oak tree]

yeah

I know

Im saying the navmesh mod doesnt count on the casino being there

[round dome]

coilhead likes the slots because people are too invested by the machines to turn around

[vague hawk]

Ahhh! Coilheads secret weapon, the slot machine! 😄

[blissful light]

Starlancer is but my
✨Brand ✨

[lapis cargo]

nice goin star

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pikachu-clap-clapping-clapping-gif-gif-13465728489229726846

[floral remnant]

A CASINO??

[floral remnant]

is that an octopus?

[vague hawk]

Yeah LethalCasino! They just released the Roulette table too, Bar and stuff still to come :3

[floral remnant]

holy shit, that's insane

are there any known issues w it?

[glacial adder]

does anyone have a list of the facility/mansion weights of all the vanilla moons? im trying to config my interiors based around that

[blissful light]

Not exactly the weights, but this might help

I think if you just multiply by 3 you'll get the correct weight number

[glacial adder]

tysm

[vague hawk]

Bit of a lag spike when you turn the JukeBox On (it's on by default, just if you turn it off then back on) But other than that, works good! Wish they had a Github or was in Discord 😛

[frail crag]

Is anyone noticing a missing texture on modded moons where the sun should be? Curious if anyone running LethalExpansionCore has this or if it's just a LE issue.

I literally can't get LEcore to work for some reason to check, so I've just stuck with LE for now

[granite lily]

Welcome to the new LE version

If I fix that on LE, it'll break for LECore and visa versa

[hasty kite]

everytime i try to land at asteroid its just a waiting for crew message

anyone know why or a fix

[brittle lotus]

do u have a modded interior set for there?

[proper rapids]

Why is Polarus taking literally 1-2 mins to load?

I love the map but it took us 3 legit 1 min and 14seconds to land

[rose bramble]

trying to use etern with the mental hospital is very laggy :?

[deep jolt]

Why One Is sooo big?

[waxen panther]

Will it be somewhat hidden/hard to go to?

[tropic gorge]

oop

[sudden gulch]

price

[crude cairn]

can someone give me default price for each wesleys moons ty 😭

[thorny narwhal]

i just tested and they are all free

u can edit that stuff using mods like lethalquantities

[oak tree]

no they arent

[vague hawk]

They're not free, just issue with LLL/LE both being present.

[thorny narwhal]

oh

ig not then

[swift summit]

What I had done was make a fresh save, using just the moons and wrote down the prices outside of company, then went in and edited prices in the config

[marsh panther]

They're free with just LLL currently to me

Unless you mean LEC

[modest willow]

i have both LLL and LEC and the moons are 0 i had to set them my self so i think LEC does count

[balmy elm]

Yeah problem with 0 cost is present on both LE & LECore moons, I used AdvancedCompany to adjust the route pricing

[agile oak]

Does it persist even when using AC?

Sometimes the route pricing visually shows up to be different from what it actually is…

[balmy elm]

I tried it with Aquatis and set the route pricing to 1, and it deducted 1 correctly

[agile oak]

I love how AC just fixes everything

Well a lot

[valid yoke]

would it be possible to add a exterior moon view to all the moons you make this is the titanic mod that adds a new planet model outside

[granite lily]

Infernis/Etern/Acidir should have one but I'm almost certain that it's broken

[thorny narwhal]

i use infernis for the mental hospital interior im sure they liked their enviorment

also the moon is fire

i like the pushable staligmites

[lapis cargo]

do you make your moon icons btw?

or well,the better question is, how do you make em?

[valid yoke]

they are idk how this dude who made the titanic one made it work

[granite lily]

I used paintdotnet to slap something together

I'm no professional pixel artist but they work lol

[granite lily]

I'll look into it eventually

[lapis cargo]

they're pretty good :p

[granite lily]

Thanks :)

[soft junco]

i want coil-head heads sticking out from the ground on asteroid be compatible with coilhead stare mod

[granite lily]

That would be creepy

[tropic gorge]

GOD i love paint.net

that’s my main software i use to make stuff

[frail crag]

Idk if you'd be willing to look into this as idk how many still use LE but I just checked and the guy who made the vulcan map just seemed to figure out a way to have the textures work on LE and LEcore.

[granite lily]

Yeah, I could copy the textures/materials over from LE to my project which would sort of fix it
But I'm not sure if I can fix the sun actually functioning on both versions

[granite lily]

To all who read this, which one of my moons is your favourite and why?
Just curious

[lapis cargo]

i really liked asteroid 13 and atlantica, asteroid 13 is really beautiful when it works

and atlantica's bridges falling etc is really unique

[forest ruin]

Honestly, kinda fell in love with Infernis because it looked like it belonged to vanilla a lot but also had its unique red color compared to the usual bright orange/brown/yellow/white that most planets seem to default to. Acidir is also great because it actually defines itself more as a mansion, and the witchcraft based scrap is amazing, making Masa really want to see like the Witch from Left 4 Dead there, or another Witch/Wendigo/Harpy esque creature. Asteroid 13 absolutely NAILS the horror vibe. Masa is very unsettled while in that moon its crazy (also the reason why Masa may or may not have played that moon the least because Masa is a coward ;w;)

Its a hard choice though for sure, but quick thoughts make Masa think of Infernis, Acidir and Asteroid 13. They are all amazing though, none of them are bad <3

The biggest thing that Masa loves in general about your moons is the uinique theme that plays at the start, the fact that it HAS a unique thing revolving around them, both mechanically and environmentally, and the best touches, imo, that it gives the interior something as well. Your moons give interiors personality, so its like a 2 in 1 deal.

[granite lily]

I do really like seeing the combinations of new interiors and the stuff I put inside some of the interiors

[forest ruin]

Gosh yeah, its very nice to see the mish mashes.

Masa does have a question though. What are your future plans, other than Cosmocos? 👀

[granite lily]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[forest ruin]

How mysterious!

[tropic gorge]

If i had plans to make a moon

It’d be cool for it to have events that happen throughout the day

Like say it’s a moon that’s deteriorating

Throughout the day, parts of the environment/ground would crumble and collapse, actively changing the moon’s terrain as time goes on

[polar bobcat]

Tbf LLL was the one that broke things this time

From my understanding

[void basin]

Acidir probably in terms of detailing

And the routing between the building and ship + fire exits reminds me of vanilla in a good way

Really hard choice though to be honest, they're all great for multiple reasons

[valid yoke]

all

they all are nice infernis for the lava etern for the ambient sounds acidir for its enviroment waiting to go to the rest but they will be good

[topaz star]

I really like Atlantica feat. all exits start sinking around 5 and submerges later. I use either the diving kit from LGU or flippers from AC to make it out while its late. Then watching them prop back up when looking out the ship while taking off.

[valid yoke]

was infernis supposed to flood with lava when i launched 1 time or was that a bug

[willow plank]

• Infernis pretty much for the atmosphere, the ambient, music, and environment design, its just great to look at it, and then feeling how you have that constant sound of the volcano rumbling, and with the particle effects, damn man!

• Gratar -- Turrets may be a pain in the ass, but hell is that lore stuff cool! its like a secret treasure island, that has lore treasure hidden from the "game code like style" which is pretty neat

• Atlantica - I love Bioshock, and i love everything that makes it similar looking, having water halfway is maybe mean to most, because of either boomba, mines or teleporter traps, but it gives you a cool flooded feeling, or a general point of "oh this planet surely hasn't been touched for a while"

• Acidir reminds me way to much off a combination with Upturned the beginning and rend/dine, it gives me a feeling of its being real, also its a rare map that is found darker then usual

• and my last favourite one on my list is Asteroid13, I hate coilheads to a passion, and combined with lethalresonanse, boy is this all scary! walking around finding the light source of someones attempt of a civiliation save attempt, and them boom, its a monster world of coilheads, and inside, what awaits you? not the fake coilheads, but the real one! Bam!

[valid yoke]

etern is prob my most fav because the sound of sizzling and the ambient sounds of the monsters like a faint jester or coilhead tricked my friend into thinking there was a jester

[forest ruin]

Not gonna lie, all these unique moons deserve their own unique creature imo

[edgy sentinel]

Atlantis gets messed up with atlas abyss

[lapis cargo]

Shouldn't anymore

Iirc

[frail crag]

Pretty much 100% agree with Masa here on the moons. I'd also add that Atlantica+flood (or storm) looks amazing and I can't wait to see how that plays with a big team, though I haven't had the chance yet. Nor have I had a chance to play with a big team on Asteroid so I'm curious how that might work ||do coilheads already spawn outside there btw?||

For the old 3 moons that I've actually had a good chance to play on, Infernis is probably the best designed overall in terms of vibe/atmosphere/variety(from the base game)/gameplay. The outside map itself is so well designed to make it feel bigger than it is, so it's still small enough that it's not a huge trek to get to the facility through any of the entrances. Idk why but every game with all my friends on Infernis has been extremly chaotic and memorable. I have high hopes for Etern given the outside patch too with all the nutcrackers.

[deep jolt]

Gratar i like the bridges

[frail crag]

Also ty I would very much appreciate if you would try! 🙏
For whatever reason me being unable to get LEcore to work with my pack means I can't check to see if the sun texture works on vulcan with LEcore, but according to the patchnotes it works on both.

[languid pulsar]

My friends love asteroid's atmosphere

[frail crag]

Also the LE dev says it was the coilhead host fix that messed with the textures somehow, idk

[languid pulsar]

Unfortunately we haven't tried any other moons yet due to our potato pcs lol

Asteroid was dropping me to 5-10 fps which didn't happen when I was testing it a couple days ago

So I'm assuming a mod was causing lag

Gonna try and look into it

[frail crag]

shot in the dark but do you have the motion sensor mod? I noticed that one caused a lot of lag, presumably due to the optimization of the model for the device

[arctic fable]

My most favorite is probably Asteroid, it feels so unique. I also noticed no one mentioned Polaris probably but I really like it. Especially fire exit routes behind the ship, love those icy corridors.

[floral remnant]

atlantica, it's very different from any moon I've seen before and the flooded interior is a sick addition even if it's purely visual (wish it was an actual mechanic though)

also love the scrap

and the sinking bridges and shit

tbf I've only tried atlantica and etern but atlantica's my fave aesthetically

[floral remnant]

yeah idk if it's possible but maybe making it so atlantica always has a rain related weather effect with a low chance of clear would be cool

all in all, these moons are insane and i love them, and i love how you make the interiors feel unique to each of them without actually changing the generation

must be the ambiance that makes em feel so different

[waxen panther]

Hey Wesley how much do you charge hourly to teach moon making lmao

I'm so desperate, nothing's going great lol

[cerulean aurora]

Do you run LLL and LE at the same time?

[waxen panther]

Not using LECore is the best way to destroy your game

[edgy sentinel]

it dose

[lapis cargo]

the latest LLL update addressed that/is addressing it and just hasnt released yet

[edgy sentinel]

when will it release?

[lapis cargo]

i coulda sworn it was supposed to be this morning, but maybe later, depends on what batby wants

[strange tapir]

Honestly they are all amazing! For my favorite I am split between Infernis and Etern! They are both so much fun to play on gameplay vise! Love the FireExit paths on Infernis and Etern has very fun monster spawns. Atmosphere-vise my favorite is Asteroid13 tho, awesome visuals and scary atmosphere

[charred adder]

Asteroid 13 and Acidir for me

I like Polarus as well for the ice jump parkour

[edgy sentinel]

for some reason the moons wont work

[proper rapids]

#1193461151636398080 message

I think it's like 5am for him right now, in his terms he wanted to release yesterday (which is still today for me sitting at 7pm)

[vague hawk]

Bro was getting cooked by the sun and stuff, said a little delay might be probable 😛

[cobalt zealot]

Gratar. Ambience, Beauty, PERFECTION

[hot otter]

Aquatis: Water/ocean vibe

[high stone]

Etern: Woohoo! I saved up enough money to get to a good moon!

After killing five mimics outside, solo run, taking like two minutes: jeez, this place is insane

Enters building: coilhead

I really wish moons difficultly scaled with player count

[gloomy grove]

Infernis. Incredibly atmospheric, first time I landed I was in shock at the quality. And then, spider. I own real life tarantulas, so more spiders always good

[frail crag]

Just LE, because isn't LLL incompatible with LE?

[cerulean aurora]

sadly it isn't

[frail crag]

lmao

Well I wasn't able to get it to work when I tried a while back

[gloomy grove]

is running LECore and LLL with relatively few issues and bugfixes coming soon

[frail crag]

That's sorta the other thing, I keep hearing about all these LLL issues and since ||wesley's maps are the best|| and don't use LLL, I haven't had much motivation to spend the hours it would take to bugfix my pack and get it to work with LEcore/LLL

• I still use some of the LE features

[hoary rock]

so you're not using lecore?

[frail crag]

no, just lethal expansion

I also-also think there's a mod or two I have that might be straight up incompatible with LEcore, while everything I want and have currently works with LE. Only issue rn is that minor texture error which if wesley will try and fix that would be super awesome and I will be very grateful. ( 🙏 )
But if not, or if it's not fixable, it's not a huge deal.

[hoary rock]

that sounds pretty weird if they're not like really recent releases

cause that theoretically shouldnt be possible

[frail crag]

We ball, apparently

[hoary rock]

well rn its a wait fest for both LLL and LECore

[high stone]

I do think the in-facility smoke of infernis could use some improvements. Texture normally clips through geometry and looks sharp on the edges

[frail crag]

I agree. It's a really cool idea to have the smoke, but it can look a lil sharp sometimes

[charred hornet]

1. Is there a way to remove the ambience and maybe particles?
2. Is it normal to find 10 gold bars back to back on gratar?

[high stone]

Idk about the specific stats of gratar

But the announcer narrating my actions to monsters that dont understand it somehow still makes my skin crawl

[frail crag]

To add to this tho it's probably not easy to have something that looks real nice that doesn't annihilate performance

[charred hornet]

actually I think I ONLY saw gold bars and big bolts

This is the rarity pool
Maxwell:100,Big Nut:44,Big Screw:44,Iron Gear:44,Crankshaft:40,Steel Gear:29,Hammer:30,Iron Ingot:25,Copper Gear:32,Gas Tank:32,Spotlight:18,Big Red Button:22,Steel Ingot:21,Robot Arm:11,Accident Log 1:7,Accident Log 2:7,Accident Log 3:7,Accident Log 4:7,Large axle:4,V-type engine:8,Metal sheet:5,Big bolt:25,Gold bar:2,Blahaj:28,Pinya:10,Yippee:15,Landmine Placer:0,Ouija Board:14,Arson Plush:15,Cookie Fumo:0,Toimari Plush:0,Hamis Plush:0,Dirty Arson Plush:0,Maxwell:0,Glizzy:15,Revolver:15,Gremlin Can:15,Toy Hammer:8,Gnarpy Plush:15,Red Amogus:8,Orange Amogus:8,Yellow Amogus:8,Green Amogus:8,Cerulean Amogus:8,Indigo Amogus:8,Purple Amogus:8,Pink Amogus:8,White Amogus:8,Black Amogus:8,Brown Amogus:8,Weezer Guitar:12,Cat:300

[granite lily]

no and no

[granite lily]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1206366132475404381
Someone had a similar issue

[charred hornet]

LLL maybe?

[gloomy grove]

Almost certainly an LLL issue, yes

I noticed some scraps bugging out on 1983 Pizzeria when LLL config was set to true

I have no clue what causes it, but it's worth reporting to one Batby

[edgy sentinel]

I keep getting this

[gaunt tangle]

anyone else see Acidir almost always having a weather effect? (i.e. eclipsed). over the numerous solo runs i've done, it feels like i only ever see it clear 10% of the time

[tropic gorge]

Yeah

Honesty no idea why

[edgy sentinel]

not fixed

[languid pulsar]

Nah, we were playing with backrooms mod, multiple weather effects, and some client stuff like aeioucompany

We were also using FairAI, snatchin bracken, and lethal doors but those haven't lagged us before

But yeah I'm gonna look into it tonight

[proper rapids]

it should be fixed when it comes out "in the next 5 hours or so"

[dusty night]

Hey, is there a mod that lists all the moons you have in the terminal properly? Included the modded ones? For whatever reason they dont show up on my moon list, they are definitely in the game though.

[steep zodiac]

chatgpt totally fucking wrote this

[loud pine]

Is it just me or is etern like incredibaly laggy with almost any custom interiors? Just in general its really laggy for me

[vague hawk]

The custom interiors tend to have way more detail etc, lods probs need optimising more too and such with shadowcasters. There's a culling mod, works with most of the interiors and sure they're working towards getting it sorted for the new interiors that just dropped too! 😄

[loud pine]

I'm using the office interior will the culling mod and still get heavy amounts of lag unfortunately ;-;

Even vanilla interiors i get lag, just more noticeable with modded ones

[vague hawk]

What kind of custom scraps you running?

[edgy sentinel]

I keep getting an error when I try to land on polorus

[languid pulsar]

So using most the mods from last night, i was still rocking 5-10 fps on asteroid

non-modded moons were fine

i got the log to come back and whenever i was on Asteroid this was spammed the entire time

Non-modded moons wouldnt have this spammed, and didnt lag

Im gonna unistall all mods except for asteroid and see if it still appears/lags

which i expect it not to since I was testing asteroid a couple days ago and was chilling

[noble osprey]

waiting to see update, I need this info too 😄

[languid pulsar]

grabbed a snack, testin now!

[marble plank]

Isn't that from shadows of objects?

[languid pulsar]

Unfortunately I have 0 idea!

Not smart enough lol

[marble plank]

have you tried running with CullFactory?

[languid pulsar]

I could try that mod again, havent used it since I'm normally the ship guy

Tho i had tested asteroid without cull before and ran it fine

I used asteroid and control company to test #1206494982521753620

I lag when controlling the enemies but walking around as a person normally I was fine without lag

Which is why im preplexxed im running at such low fps

[marble plank]

Let me test it out with my beefy 111 mods

[languid pulsar]

hehe

[marble plank]

160 fps

mind you that's with increased render distance

[languid pulsar]

you also prob have a better pc than me hehe

[marble plank]

probably but on average my laptop gets like quarter as much with an RTX 2060 Max-Q (which is a pretty weak GPU) and R7 4800HS (a terrible CPU when it comes to single-core performance)

So that would mean I would get at least 40 fps

let me demonstrate on experimentation if there's a difference

[languid pulsar]

so far experimentation ran buttery smooth for me

only running asteroid and its dependcies

[marble plank]

experimentation actually runs worse for me

[languid pulsar]

gonna hop over to asteroid

asteroid runs buttery smooth too

it must be a mod

[marble plank]

What mods were you using?

[languid pulsar]

boutta send a screenshot

so yall are fine

so which of yall arent

[marble plank]

Aren't you using a mod manager?

[languid pulsar]

Nope!

prefer to install manually

And I'm aware it makes my life harder lol

[marble plank]

Why do you have all LE, LECore and LSDK?