Weather Registry / Weather Tweaks / mrov

[daring pivot]

look inside

[rare sun]

[nocturne lily]

paco can't be that evil

[rare sun]

Paco is too nice

There has to be some evil

He probably steals lollipops from babies

[nocturne lily]

delightfully devilish

[daring pivot]

[daring pivot]

Their name wasn't written on them, so I mean

Fair game

[rare sun]

True

But yeah try for junior creator wawa

You will prob be eligible to it

[nocturne lily]

i'll look into it

[rare sun]

I could try applying too hehe but i first need a lethal company video

So time to work

[nocturne lily]

u could def do it

ur vid for sleeps interior was good

[rare sun]

Oh ty! :3

It wasnt that hard to make

The hard one was the interior one

Getting all that footage was crazy

[coral ocean]

@drowsy willow

[slow maple]

YOOOO CREATOR

[coral ocean]

YESSSSSSSSSSSS

THIS IS THE MOST EXCITED I HAVE BEEN IN LITERALLY SO LONG

[drowsy willow]

HOLY SHIT YOU DID IT 🔥 🔥 🔥

[haughty ingot]

Noice! 🔥

[thorny salmon]

lmao if its that easy i (or my friends) could also get this role but tbh there is no real benefit at doing that

[thorny salmon]

I made some really stylish(?) things with WeatherTweaks : Blood Moon + Blue and Blood Moon + Snowfall
Blood Moon + Meteor shower (from code rebirth) will also go really hard but this does not work in v73 for now

Also bad news, I had to spawn these manually because when LLLUpdated is installed it's not possible to change the weather using Imperium while being in orbit, it will just force the "None" weather
So I can't test all the things I want, and so I can't update my WT integration for now

@daring pivot if you can look into this when you can Ill really appreciate
I had no specific errors or warnings or any kind of logs, it just does not work anymore

[viral tree]

OMFG the left one is fucking gorgeous

fix your fricking WT morv or I eat your kneecaps

[thorny salmon]

Pretty much unplayable but yeah

[thorny salmon]

No tbf WeatherTweaks seems to work just fine

[viral tree]

oh 🥲

[thorny salmon]

It's LLL that breaks the weather combos

[viral tree]

terrible times to be LC modded fan

[viral tree]

how

[thorny salmon]

idk, something is preventing me to switch the weather properly

[viral tree]

we could have Blue Moon but LLL said "🖕"

[slow maple]

god that's so sick

[viral tree]

actually heck
the moon on "Blue" looks like a black hole

[slow maple]

Blue Moon

[jaunty imp]

black hole weather would go hard tbh

but also blue moon is cool

[slow maple]

yess

[slow maple]

would be really really annoying if not balanced properly but ye

[jaunty imp]

i drop a scrap outside to keep it from hoarding bugs and it goes flying up into the sky never to be seen again

[thorny salmon]

lmao

[rare sun]

Zigzag you gonna make me install blue unironically i cant believe it

[thorny salmon]

Lmao tbh Blue is not even that bad, the ambiance is quite great even if there is no gameplay mechanic

[jaunty imp]

Blue's fine on paper my only problem with it is a personal one

it murders my eyes it's too blue

But it's a meme weather so who cares that's probably the point lmao

[viral tree]

you should play evil blue

I sentence you to 3 quotas on Evil Blue weather

[jaunty imp]

I'm not playing evil blue lmao

oh god

[viral tree]

with 50% broken headphones

https://tenor.com/view/sentenced-judge-gavel-life-guilty-gif-12475856

[jaunty imp]

nah just get a mod to break the spatialisation

like. permanently

I need a moon and interior I hate though and I don't have any moons/interiors I have beef with

[viral tree]

true bestie

join me

let's beef on tr*te

[thorny salmon]

Evil blue ?

[viral tree]

there are 2 blue weathers

evil blue is the same but like... very dark

[thorny salmon]

💀 what

[viral tree]

blackout premium and flashlights don't help that much too

[thorny salmon]

holy moly

[jaunty imp]

i don't mind trite tho

is the only thing

it's fun

[rare sun]

Its too memey for me, thats why i dont use it

[jaunty imp]

Someone needs to make a meme hellscape moon for me I can't be out here existing without a single moon I hate

[rare sun]

Epstein island moon:

[jaunty imp]

Not like that 💀

[drowsy willow]

ayo

[rare sun]

You either hate it, or you were on the list

[viral tree]

it's @robust dirge's nostalgia moon apparently

[drowsy willow]

instead of making moons we shall make an archipelago

[jaunty imp]

Yeah but like. obviously I'm not gonna like that I want a moon that's playable and not built off of smth like that but for me specifically to hate it

[robust dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/nicki-minaj-gif-3934667274774069898

[slow maple]

make your own

make a moon that caters specifically to everything you despise about the game

[jaunty imp]

why would i do that though

that'd result in an unplayable abysmal dogshit moon

and also it wouldn't be the same as if someone else did it

[slow maple]

the perfect way to learn is to fuck up horrifically on your first try

listen to your moon teacher skitts, this is the meta

[jaunty imp]

okay but having that be the moon i'm gonna have beef with is boring!!!!!

[slow maple]

you make dogshit to then make peak

[jaunty imp]

guess so huh

[slow maple]

just look at wesley, he made Etern and then he made Calist

||the horse is red stain on the ground at this point||

[viral tree]

skitts might as well have beef on calist
she fell so many times

[slow maple]

give me what you hate the most in this game and it'll be my third moon

[jaunty imp]

meh I give calist leeway because ||the contrast between the description and reality hit hard||

[jaunty imp]

honestly can't immediately think of mechs/quirks i hate

[robust dirge]

tell me your depest hates and i'll make a moon just for you

ignore monty he wont do it

but i will

[jaunty imp]

I feel like it'd take a lot for me to dislike a moon, I'm lucky I haven't played anything with exceptionally poor/cruel balancing

(other than like. cubatres but it's such a pretty moon and the chaos is fun)

I'd want it to be smth people can still enjoy like trite i don't want it to be totally unsalvageable

just. targeted against me

[slow maple]

give me enemies

[jaunty imp]

Jesters are pretty annoying

i guess

[robust dirge]

7 outside jesters

got it

[jaunty imp]

indoor jesters too

[robust dirge]

wat about outside mines and turrets on top of that

[jaunty imp]

My main beef with jesters is that I have negative sense of direction and getting lost when there's a jester is kinda fatal

[jaunty imp]

sounds pretty evil but i have no beef with landmines

turrets are annoying at worst

idm them

[robust dirge]

what about moving turrets

[jaunty imp]

honestly that sounds hilarious

[robust dirge]

• a mortar that always targets you

[jaunty imp]

make it banana mode as well

[drowsy willow]

😳 KENJI STOP

[jaunty imp]

but don't steamid it to me that'd be too evil

[drowsy willow]

NEVERMIND KENJI, DO IT

[robust dirge]

ok, now making: 69-Mu

[viral tree]

DO IT

[drowsy willow]

lmao

[jaunty imp]

Idk if I want to overlap moon number with kanie tho

or whatever other moon(s) are 69

[robust dirge]

69.1-Mu

[viral tree]

what kanie did to u

[jaunty imp]

idk kanie's fine

Haven't been on it much it's just funni

[slow maple]

outside jesters with raised fire exits and experimentation level scrap count

titan level interior size

[jaunty imp]

oh nyo

But make the scraps super valuable to make up for it

don't want it to be totally unplayable!

[slow maple]

it's 100 metal sheet 1 gold bar

myee hehehehe

[jaunty imp]

evil

[robust dirge]

it just spawns 1 scrap worth 2.5k

the scrap is actually a golden fish

find my fishes

[slow maple]

I suppose that's true it could be a single scrap in there

[daring pivot]

Oh whar

I was specifically testing combined weathers for like Snowfall + Solar Flare and stuff and it did let me set it to them with Imperium

[thorny salmon]

ill make a small profile for you

[thorny salmon]

Ok you are right I can't reproduce this on a small test profile that is very weird
It only happens on my dev environment which is made in local
I tried copy pasting every plugins, patchers, and core dll from the test profile on Gale back on my local environment thus updating everything and getting rid of all others not needed mod to have something 100% just like the test profile i have on Gale but nope it was still not working 🧐 🧐
idk what to do, my local dev environment seems to be the culprit but if its really broken why everything works besides Imperium weather switching when LLLUpdated is installed? This seems like a very specific and strange thing to just not not work in this case

I also tried copy pasting the config but nope

Something isnt working in local but its working on gale wtf

[daring pivot]

Thonk

Yeah I dunno

[thorny salmon]

this means ill need to develop and test all my weather combos on Gale instead of locally 😭 🧙‍♂️

Ok im sad now

So, let's transfer the sadness to someone else

@drowsy willow i found an issue
When the weather is blackout, if i remove the weather manually mid-game using code, the weather will not be removed

https://tenor.com/view/hola-smile-hey-zoom-gif-17190918

im not sad anymore

[slow maple]

you might just have to remake it, I had a similar thing where Ogopogo was able to spawn literally anywhere it wanted regardless of if it had water or not and I thought it was a moon issue but once I remade my profile it was all working correctly

sometimes your testing environment just shits itself for no fucking reason

[thorny salmon]

Yeah but I copy pasted everything from gale so it should be the same as remaking it

[slow maple]

and it works on Gale right?

that's what I mean

[drowsy willow]

oh yeah, it does a few intrusive actions that are not reversible 🤭

[slow maple]

silly rovvy

[manic cobalt]

Throw Zeekerss under the bus before me, Weather is by far the most hardcoded type of content in the game and it's a miracle and triumph that any custom weather exists well enough 😛

It's like the #1 thing I would change in the basegame code if I was ever given the opportunity

probably 2nd but still

[slow maple]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

or is my discord tweaking out

I saw a message there and now it's gone

[manic cobalt]

i didn't delete anything

[slow maple]

what the fuuuck discord's making me look schizo 😔

apologies bats

[daring pivot]

Sorry I stole it

[slow maple]

cheeky paquito...

[drowsy willow]

why are you pregnant reacting me

[drowsy willow]

🤭 🤭 🤭

to be fair

I didn't account for the case when someone would want to bring back the sun before round ends

[drowsy willow]

trueeeeeeee

although

I'm now working on a version that replaces whatever-the-fuck-i-have with simply replacing the vanilla array of weathers with mine

[manic cobalt]

I still cosign the idea of completely rewriting it with dynamic il code type shit and requiring any relevant content mod to suck it up and depend on it

[robust dirge]

why not

[drowsy willow]

I'm almost sure no one will really like that idea

at some point I just need to say "oh well" and move on tbh

[viral tree]

Dam

[raven jungle]

Is it possible to change weather while you're landed?

[drowsy willow]

no

at least not without imperium

kiszony what the hell

[viral tree]

[drowsy willow]

[viral tree]

[thorny salmon]

Yep

[thorny salmon]

I'm sorry but everything can be reversed if you know what to do in the code
If you need cached data and reference to do the things you are modifying then you can do that there's no impossible thing

[thorny salmon]

Why you lying like that 🗿 🗿
It is totally possible

[queen shadow]

hello, it is i again, it has been... uh, 2 months? anyways im here to check how the weathering of the registry has been tweaking

morvius if you see his, hope you're doin aight lol

[queen shadow]

same goes for anyone else that sees this ofc

[unique turret]

it's morving time?

[queen shadow]

idk, maybe

I just figured id pop in to say hi

me and my group may be coming back to LC after like a half year break, so i figured ill look at whats been going on here

[unique turret]

morv has been morving all over the place for sure, that's what's been happening

[queen shadow]

siiick

when is morv 2 happening

[unique turret]

2026/07/01 12:11

UTC+0

so a while still

[queen shadow]

incredible

[unique turret]

anyways I'm so hungry I could eat a morv

I think that cannibalism is fine as long as both parties consent

[queen shadow]

certainly one of the takes of all time

[unique turret]

thanks, I'm known for having great takes

[hidden pelican]

that implies morv is human

you are sorely mistaken

[unique turret]

😨

[queen shadow]

Oh damn its beanie

hi beanie, been a while too with you

[hidden pelican]

ive been cooking SPECIFICALLY for you while you were gone

trust me

[queen shadow]

HUH

[hidden pelican]

[queen shadow]

mods, this guy

is based

i should check just how busted my mods are honestly

and also if soundapi ever got that bug fixed that i reported eons ago lol

but i am scared to find out

[unique turret]

I dread(?) people reporting issues with any of my mods

maintaining a generic API though is so nice because I don't have to worry about it breaking on game updates

[queen shadow]

Yeah, meanwhile i was in the middle of trying to migrate from LCSoundTool to SoundAPI

before i realised that SAPI was semibusted and one of the core sounds i was replacing for my pack didnt work

so i just put it on ice, pending fix from SAPI. No idea if it ever did get fixed.

[unique turret]

I have a tip, though it might not apply if you are not a programmer, but usually you can simply just fix something if it's not working and the fix rarely is not that hard

[queen shadow]

I mean tbf i did learn a lot since then, decent chance i could cobble together some kind of fix if the thing in SAPI is still busted.

[unique turret]

by a fix btw I do mean fixing SAPI

[abstract pivot]

yeah go for it, just fix SAPI

as hamunii says this is probably really easy

[queen shadow]

Well i need to first find out if its still busted lol

[unique turret]

it's easy until proven otherwise

[queen shadow]

Imagine if it is truly a nothingburger fix though

[abstract pivot]

yeah no one's ever tried before clearly

[queen shadow]

mhm

trust

[abstract pivot]

i like not looking at any codebase and just assuming something is easy

[unique turret]

with my last message I was mostly just trolling, I did not refer to SAPI fix being necessarily easy, just said that usually stuff like this is a simple fix

[queen shadow]

just vibe code it, works 101% of the time

(it implemented an off by one error)

[abstract pivot]

i know you're joking but hamunii does vibe code 💀

there's a few people in here that do

[queen shadow]

I mean it can work

[unique turret]

it was literally one time

[abstract pivot]

yeah and u can get a totally 100% unperformant mess that you cant understand or touch ever again

[queen shadow]

Usually it can get you on the right track if you truly dont know where to start, but it does involve a lot of cleanup

[abstract pivot]

one times stick forever, and it was a quite a lot more than that

[unique turret]

wtf are you talking about?

[queen shadow]

love how we just yoinked mrov's channel for this btw

"whoops"

[nocturne lily]

Happens all the time

[abstract pivot]

ai gets most of its stuff from like reddit posts and unity docs and forums, anyone is able to do the same to find that info tbh

[abstract pivot]

worth it to be an ass to someone like hamunii 🔥

[nocturne lily]

StackOverflow my beloved

[abstract pivot]

yeah, that, unity docs, reddit forums, the unity discord itself

so many places i usually source from

[queen shadow]

I miss the times when SO wasnt overrun by genAI answers

[abstract pivot]

honestly i dont see that much, maybe im just not looking deep enough

[queen shadow]

Its supposedly gotten better

[abstract pivot]

i'd hope so

[nocturne lily]

I dont remember that, are they marked as ai?

Or bots posing as humans

[queen shadow]

Welp time to fire up LC and see what happens

certainly been a while

[unique turret]

I genuinely dislike it

do you intentionally annoy me just to annoy me?

[abstract pivot]

yes, you're disgusting for your opinions made before, and it honestly takes some pretty large favouritism for robyn to ignore everything that went down in that conversation and lash out at "everyone equally" for what transpired, nobody cares enough to pursue it, but it is disgusting and if i get the chance i dont mind actually being an asshole about it

anyway ill apologise to mrov later about taking up his thread

and i dont care enough to continue this

[abstract pivot]

i think you've missed quite a few updates

including maybe one or two enemies

[queen shadow]

okay look i got no clue what transpired, i assumed this was friendly banter at first but uhhh yeah maybe not the right place for this

but yeah i have missed some stuff recently

[abstract pivot]

you dont wanna know honestly 💀

[queen shadow]

I mean its none of my business so

(sidenote i completely forgot where my LC modding dev folder is ._.)

[abstract pivot]

do you still have gale or a mod manager?

might be able to find it through there

[unique turret]

eh, I'll die on that hill. I also think that everyone who isn't open to changing their mind on something they didn't form their opinion on independently are the issue

[nocturne lily]

Ok im just gonna say

[abstract pivot]

it's true, everyone but you were the issue 😔

[unique turret]

there is certainly some history between me and Xu

[nocturne lily]

That whole thing wouldnt have happened if you just kept that opinion to yourself

[abstract pivot]

its not a thing between me and hamunii 💀

[nocturne lily]

You did not have to tell everyone your stance on it

[abstract pivot]

i still blame @rare sun for being the real catalyst 😔

[queen shadow]

Yeah i still have R2MM but its been ages. Checking my profiles on it rn

[unique turret]

what's the fun in that though? (but yes you're right)

[nocturne lily]

brother still catching strays

[queen shadow]

oh

[nocturne lily]

I'm not gonna start this up again it was just really out of left field

[queen shadow]

oh

maybe its the folder blatantly called LC modding

[abstract pivot]

sounds like the minecraft folder really

[unique turret]

yeah this discord server is not the place for discussion about that topic

[nocturne lily]

You could've just said its not removable and be done with it

And we'd all go along with our day

[abstract pivot]

honestly what really annoyed me from all of that was how the server's top admin/owner responded to it, idk if you saw, it was pretty well hidden

[queen shadow]

honestly at this stage thats probably the best idea even now, i dont think we should be cluttering mrov's channel like this now by bringing that discussion back up.

[nocturne lily]

I did see it, I didnt think it was fair to dish out equal punishment to everyone when there was 1 person very clearly in the wrong

[queen shadow]

Like, the topic should just be dropped. If you guys want to continue theres probably better channels for it...

[nocturne lily]

But i dont have community presence to dispute stuff

[queen shadow]

(even if not here)

[nocturne lily]

So i just let it be

[queen shadow]

Poor mrov is gonna see this and think a bomb went off

[abstract pivot]

we'll stop but if it helps mrov found the whole thing really fucking funny (as a lot of us during that time did but it was still very disgusting)

[queen shadow]

also update, that folder was for LC modding, but it was for my meager attempts at a bepinex script for diagnosing compatibility

crap

[abstract pivot]

oop

[unique turret]

morv knows about me and Xu's relationship so it's not going to be a shock

[queen shadow]

I know i got my other mods SOMEWHERE

real question just remains where

[unique turret]

I'm still annoyed I was never given a proper chance to explain myself

[willow kiln]

Don't you dare drag this on 😭

[nocturne lily]

Sorry crafty

[abstract pivot]

apologies craftonius

https://tenor.com/view/my-apologies-cheese-kitty-cat-sorry-my-bad-gif-1026852287997442026

[willow kiln]

Why is everyone apologizing to me

[abstract pivot]

forgive our insolence crafty

[gleaming idol]

lethal company modding discord has more lore than youd expect. put 10 people in a room and wait to see who presses it first...

i forgot to mention the big red button

[unique turret]

someone should make a LC Modding lore iceberg

[willow kiln]

Within the past week I've learned a lot of you resent each other

[queen shadow]

glory to the R2MM mod cache

i found zip files of my dev versions

no idea how up to date they are

[nocturne lily]

The vicious cycle of modding communities

[queen shadow]

As someone in a few modding communities, i can agree

[abstract pivot]

this past week or so has been hectic, the JLL doc, the LLL doc, the hamunii thing, but it is what it is, you spend 2 years with some of these people you're bound to get some resentment here and there

nothing that can be solved though, afaik im like pretty chill and okay with 99% of people

[unique turret]

lol "the hamunii thing"

[abstract pivot]

i mean if you want me to tell people you're an incest supporter then sure but im not trying to continue that conversation again

anyway this is where i exit

[willow kiln]

When are we releasing the hamunii files

[unique turret]

they aren't real, never was

I might release them though if I'm voted for president

[gleaming idol]

ohh i read all that in the thunderstore moderation and laughed but it all got deleted

[abstract pivot]

||i do actually have a copy of the entire conversation 💀||

[queen shadow]

Bruh ive only been absent for 7 months what the heck

[unique turret]

that's a topic that's not really allowed here btw, so let's not get into it

[queen shadow]

okay i know "only" is a wild thing to say when its 7 months but still

[unique turret]

oh yeah there's nothing bad there

[nocturne lily]

Glad someone has it, I only have a few random screenshots

[willow kiln]

Apologies to mrov, it appears I have perpetuated the conversation

[abstract pivot]

go apolocheese crafty

come on

[unique turret]

technically it's my fault we're talking about this here

[willow kiln]

Well it was over and then I started saying stuff

[unique turret]

fair enough

[queen shadow]

ANYWAYS

hows the weather

[abstract pivot]

as punishment, you gotta update lunar config NOW

idk someone tweaked it

[willow kiln]

Never

[abstract pivot]

wow, unbelievable

[queen shadow]

wheyyy

[willow kiln]

The sky is red, the moon looks suspiciously close, and it's raining ash

[queen shadow]

aw hell nah

is this real

[gleaming idol]

Day 3 surviving australian bushfires

[queen shadow]

yeah ok so ive been able to test my stuff, and basically the best way to summarise it is "nothing ever happens" aka still the same issues from before i went on a 7 month break

weather continues to be epic though

[harsh flicker]

mfw i just wanted to see how the v73 updates were comin along

[queen shadow]

yeah hi

[harsh flicker]

[queen shadow]

sidenote, i do wonder if LC is gonna see somewhat of a renaissance once big Z returns from the dark place and he works on updates again

[slow maple]

saying the JLL doc and the LLL doc makes it sound sooo much worse than it actually is lol

[slow maple]

i really do hope so

im helping get some people into moon making but apart from that idk if there's too much brand new stuff coming out

[jaunty imp]

don't forget the legendweathers doc /j

[queen shadow]

I mean id love to work more on my sound stuff, but im in the same boat as the resonance folks with having to just keep stuff on the shelf till we can use it

[unique turret]

I just read the JLL docs and related lore and holy hell there's so much I don't know about the community

[queen shadow]

it sounds like a rabbit hole

and not one i should look into

[slow maple]

TRUEEE

[queen shadow]

there exists a doc for everything

[slow maple]

it is very unfortunate

@abstract pivot btw if SoundAPI is looking for maintainers Bongo should maybe announce it proper and pin it on that thread

cuz otherwise I doubt anyone will know

[queen shadow]

Im just curious as to whatever happened with 2.1 that allegedly fixes the issues

lol

[unique turret]

what issues are there btw? I'm curious

[abstract pivot]

yeah ill let em know

[queen shadow]

main one affecting me is that ship thruster sounds dont get replaced atm - iirc the resonance folks have a list of other issues somewhere too

[abstract pivot]

yeah its not as bad, it wasnt that nice to hear some stuff i never knew bout how some people felt about me in the JLL one but im sure its a bit exaggerated

[abstract pivot]

i was helping bongo look into that one a couple weeks back iirc, bongo also talked to zaggy about ways to manage to replace that, so there is progress if that helps

[unique turret]

mm I see, sounds like fun issues (not)

[slow maple]

I feel like batby also should do that, but unsure if he wants to

oh hi batby

but ye I think it'd help (both SoundAPI and LLL) with getting maintainers/contributors if it was announced somewhere that they were looking for some

[queen shadow]

That does help, thank you! Because its uh... been just over 7 months since i brought the issue back up, and from what i know the resonance guys reported it even earlier 😅

[slow maple]

if they don't wanna do that thats also fine tho lol

[queen shadow]

thankfully not too much has happened on the LC side in those lasz 7 months other than the V70 additions which dont affect me much

[manic cobalt]

To be honest I think it's hard to invest a ton of time into LC stuff when Zeekerss is completely uninterested in the modding stuff

among many other reasons but that one applies to modding in general so

[queen shadow]

Yeah i get that, its why i ended up taking a break too

LC just kinda stagnated in our group, so i put it down for a while aswell seeing as the modding stuff was also basically on hold

[slow maple]

I feel like that only hurts the community when a change happens in basegame that completely fucks up everything on the modded side

but I see what you mean yea

I personally don't care but I also make smaller stuff so thats probably why

[manic cobalt]

So much stuff could be easier with a fraction of effort

I'd wager mrov has probably spent 100-200+ hours on stuff that could otherwise be done with a day of changing the basegame code

[queen shadow]

Yeah hats off to all the modders still here who keep stuff going

[slow maple]

hmmm yeah..

[patent briar]

Yeah, massive respect for putting up with all this and making awesome mods regardless

[slow maple]

fr!!

[viral tree]

fr!!

[drowsy willow]

and its predecessor:

[abstract pivot]

honestly too lazy to properly set that type of thing up for myself in dawnlib but im probably at a few hundred myself too on just that

[drowsy willow]

https://wakatime.com

install the plugin, set it up for 3 minutes and it just works 😅

[abstract pivot]

yeah but they kept emailing me about it 😔

it might've actually been running ig ill check

i have a feeling considering i've been working on multiple projects for the last 10 hours that this timer is not very true

it's also why i kinda stopped relying on it, didnt feel right

[patent briar]

You spend two thirds of the time I played LC making that mod. Holy shit, hats off!

[drowsy willow]

hmmm that's weird

are you sure you have that installed in vscode rather than visual studio?

[abstract pivot]

oh apparently i did uninstall it?

then what the fuck did it track last night for 10 minutes

💀

[drowsy willow]

volleyball

[abstract pivot]

ill readd it but it kinda sus

[drowsy willow]

you can check per-editor time on the main page

[abstract pivot]

yeah it was vsc, weird, it also tracks private git repositories, ig that makes sense lol

[drowsy willow]

oh yeah, it does

[haughty ingot]

This is so fucking valid..

[azure dirge]

he has a fine fixation. quite literally a game changer

[drowsy willow]

other than 3? 4? checks for a specific weather type in the game, the enum is not really used tbh

it's so weird

[abstract pivot]

and its like, only foggy lol

maybe eclipsed too

the rest of the weathers handle themselves standalone

which is nice, he probably created foggy at the very start

[thorny salmon]

yeah, just this lmao

[abstract pivot]

doesnt it also check for eclipse to mess with the variables?

[thorny salmon]

not even, eclipse is a MonoBehaviour

it changes variables in OnEnable

[abstract pivot]

it really do be self contained except for foggy then lol

i did see a rainy reference somewhere while i just checked myself

but eh

all of it can be done in their own classes rather than teh enum checks

[drowsy willow]

there's one for foggy and one for rainy

I don't know if there's more

[abstract pivot]

its mostly .None's, which im sure there are better ways to check if there's no weather already lol

[drowsy willow]

yeah 😅

given the fact that many places in the game use a bool field and then another one to define the type (in terminal nodes and in selectable levels) it could've been done like that

[manic cobalt]

Even then a tiny bit of extra effort in how weather prefabs are managed in the basegame code would be really nice too, no?

Abit easier for you to completely overhaul but still

and the arbitrary weather values

[stark scaffold]

umm

@drowsy willow

what is this...

[rare sun]

Thats zigzag's doing

Every possible weather in one iirc

[drowsy willow]

oh, absolutely

[manic cobalt]

the world if lc had a rewrite which utilized some form of content interface that allowed content to be easily and consistently associated with other content

[drowsy willow]

imagine

crazy thoughts

[slow maple]

like that'll ever happen

[gleaming idol]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-open-door-just-got-here-gif-16323444

[keen palm]

Except flooded

specifically to hate on flooded and exclude it for spiteful reasons

[rare sun]

blizzard also not there

and foggy

[thorny salmon]

wooo wo wo dont say that, im gonna fix this soon

[gleaming idol]

🤫 thats a good thing, its the only weather i have disabled

[rare sun]

:3

[gleaming idol]

The end of the world except you cant see it (foggy = aids)

[rare sun]

I loves me some foggys

Me when foggy + toxic smog + blizzard + black fog

The foggiest of them all

[gleaming idol]

heh.. black fog completely breaks brutal company for me... toxic smog... betterfog mod 🚬 and then foggy...

foggy...

https://tenor.com/view/eye-roll-duh-whatever-dwayne-johnson-the-rock-gif-17895415

[rare sun]

And blizzard

Bro didnt mention the best fog one

[gleaming idol]

and yes i use blizzard......

daa daad daaa o-overwatch

[rare sun]

:0

[slow maple]

literally

wish it impacted gameplay in a way that wasn't fucking ass

[gleaming idol]

Right?

[rare sun]

Why do i tend to disagree with public opinion?

Is my opinion that bad

[gleaming idol]

noo cheese noo... foggy is jus a special case !

someone needs to just make a mod to install the fog monsters from abiotic factor into the foggy weather 👍

[slow maple]

I think the worst part about foggy is how the thickness of the fog doesn't sync between players

like even when you get a good fog density (because it does vary) your friends might get a fucking horrible one

so even when it's good it can be fucking awful lmao

[gleaming idol]

is that actually true? I have been using the better fog mod for so long i honestly forgot how insanely thick the fog is in vanilla

thats fucked up...

[slow maple]

this info might be wrong but what I know is:

foggy weather has 2 variables, one that determines its minimum density and one that determines its maximum density. these two values are dependant on the moon. regardless, each time you roll foggy weather a density between those two values is chosen

but that density isn't fucking synchronized between players

[rare sun]

mrov moment to fix it :3

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265636854431219772/1297946528643809385/silly.gif

[gleaming idol]

I've played 2 other games a bit that can be modded through thunderstore. risk of rain 2... i never had desync with it, even with an absurd amount of mods. valheilm, i did have desync with this upon the confusion of different bepinex versions listed on nexus, but did manual modding for most of this due to texture mods. but lethal company...

https://tenor.com/view/anime-tears-gif-22270923

[rare sun]

#modding-general message

:3

in short, the way mp is done in lethal company makes desync more common

[thorny salmon]

Wtf

[daring pivot]

Isn't it seed based?

-# (I hope it is)

Yeah it's seed based

Or no I'm dumb that's for the weekly challenge thing

This one is for foggy though

[abstract pivot]

ye if its not synched its probably like some sort of moon issue or smthn

[abstract pivot]

as in the moon has extra fog or there's people with machines or mods that are affecting the fog, etc

[slow maple]

last time I remember this happening was on vow lol

[abstract pivot]

maybe hardware of perspective then, not sure

but foggy variables are 100% synced

[slow maple]

literally no idea then

erhm WR issue! 🤓

[abstract pivot]

i can live with that

[slow maple]

well that's a relief atleast

[abstract pivot]

@drowsy willow WR is fucking shit up again smh, cool easter egg though

[drowsy willow]

foggy variables aren't actually synced anywhere, they're just the same at both ends

[slow maple]

DON'T ACTUALLY REPORT IT

[drowsy willow]

cool Easter egg

[drowsy willow]

what happened

[abstract pivot]

same difference, it's actually a pretty cool easter egg though

[slow maple]

nah i was telling how foggy weather fucking sucks and makes me wanna kill my shelf with a big axe

[abstract pivot]

you're missing something really funny that happened which is why i pinged mrov, ill dm you

[drowsy willow]

oh, that

[abstract pivot]

it IS a pretty cool easter egg though

i will find this funny till the end of time

[slow maple]

https://tenor.com/view/reference-captain-america-avengers-understood-gif-7991943

[abstract pivot]

i typed gordion to route to the company

and then it sent me there

and i typed conf by instinct before realising and it errored

lol

it didn't brick the terminal

but you might be missing something in there lol

[daring pivot]

conf

[drowsy willow]

hmmmmmm interesting

[abstract pivot]

Oh also forecast is clearly broken atleast for company moon LMAO

It did not have allat weathers

Is this the bug with them counting weather's that blacklisted em?

[drowsy willow]

forecast ignores weight-to-weight weights and blacklists, yeah

i am planning to fix it

[abstract pivot]

clearly harmony forgor

[drowsy willow]

oh, that

the thing is

when i switch it to check for the Instance (the field) it dies

lol

[abstract pivot]

lowkey i was trynna figure why this turtle was being crushed by a rock and got stabbed from its right

[drowsy willow]

LMAOOOOOOOO

i did not see that EVER

[abstract pivot]

btw do you patch OpenMonitors in any of your mods?

[abstract pivot]

i was really confused until i saw it was weather tweaks lol

[drowsy willow]

yeah, i'm almost certain i do

let me find it

[abstract pivot]

thx

open monitors + weather tweaks + terminal formatter is causing a method to not run and im trynna find out who i should blame

[drowsy willow]

me

[abstract pivot]

you're not stopping it from running in vanilla are you?

[drowsy willow]

i'm stopping this in weathertweaks

so i guess not

i'm just unpatching those two patches in openmonitors

[abstract pivot]

hmmm okie

i dont see why that would stop my method from running then, ig ill have to log some more lol

[drowsy willow]

terminalformatter? maybe?

god knows

[abstract pivot]

apparently if i get rid of any one of those 3 mods its fine, but ill see if terminal formatter + open monitors also causes it

[drowsy willow]

in TF i've got prefix patches on Terminal.LoadNewNode

[abstract pivot]

hmm it's moreso a monitor issue

like the shipTravelCoroutine method

[drowsy willow]

and that method contains the TextPostProcess call that OpenMonitors patches

[drowsy willow]

hmmmmm

[abstract pivot]

TravelToLevelEffects

thats the one that im patching, and doing stuff after

haha i guess it'd break if someone edited that wait for seconds but that surely wouldnt happen

[drowsy willow]

surely

[abstract pivot]

lol it really needs all three mods for it to break thats hilarious

ill check rq if its actually my patch not running anymore

[thorny salmon]

hey @drowsy willow , does WT support Weather A > Weather B > Weather C > Weather D at different times and chances?

[rare sun]

:0

[drowsy willow]

It should

[thorny salmon]

Nice thx

[drowsy willow]

the progressive weather is simply an array of weather-time-chance objects

so it hopefully works as intended

[thorny salmon]

yep i know that but i wanted confirmation

[viral tree]

From the screen to the ring to the pen to the king

[rare sun]

Wheres my crown

[viral tree]

That's my bling

[viral tree]

Goobnight

[rare sun]

No more goobing around

[viral tree]

No

[rare sun]

Im getting called out

Too much goob

[viral tree]

[rare sun]

[viral tree]

But I love to goobgoob

Anyway, goon bite

I mean goonight

I mean goon

I mean

-# (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH)

I'm back

[rare sun]

I mean gooning

[viral tree]

[rare sun]

Gooning at night

Goodnight kiszony!!! Sleep tight!

[rare sun]

Just here to say im sorry mrov

[drowsy willow]

what happened cheese?

[thorny salmon]

cheese was the one who originally found out the issue i reported to you yesterday, the one when you said

[drowsy willow]

🤭

[rare sun]

Progressive weathers try not to break the entire game challenge impossible 9999

[drowsy willow]

that is true

[thorny salmon]

hope youll find a fix my friend

[drowsy willow]

i hope so as well

[rare sun]

I also hope 🙏

[bitter hound]

Is there any way to turn off the Combined and Progressing Weathers in their entirety over having to manually turn each one off in registry?

[azure dirge]

does tweaks even properly work in v73 rn, @drowsy willow ?

[rare sun]

Deleting weather tweaks

Thats its sole purpose

Weather registry doesnt create those

Is weather tweaks

[thorny salmon]

the answer is yes for combined but no for progressing

im actually waiting a bit to release my tool because of that

[azure dirge]

hmmmmmmk

[bitter hound]

I meant like is there a confg option for disabling it, as I do like what Weather Tweaks does to Weather chances

But seems like there is nothing so I'll just remove tweaks for now

[rare sun]

weather chances?

[bitter hound]

Difficulty scaling with player count and quota I mean

[rare sun]

oh

yeah having weather tweaks just for that is not really worth it

only way would be to deactivate every combined and progressive weather

so sad that not many people enjoy weather tweaks

when it has been like the hardest thing

[bitter hound]

I want to like the Combined and Progressing Weathers but combined are not my style and progressing is so cool but has issues

[rare sun]

what issues?

the transitions are non existent because of how the game is made

combined weathers are cool i like them

there can be some really cool combinations

blood moon + forsaken is the most beautiful thing i've seen

[bitter hound]

Some Weathers are uhhhhhh

A bit broken when transitioning

[rare sun]

and blackout + black fog is nightmares

dont even bother pairing it with hallowed

true nightmare

[rare sun]

yes the transitions are non existent

ther have been reports about issues with pregressive weathers spawning weather when they shouldnt be

but mrov is looking for a fix

[bitter hound]

My issue is I suck at the game and some combos just wipe my team so fast

[rare sun]

oh yeah

[bitter hound]

Alright, I'll give Weather Tweaks another shot someday

[rare sun]

you can adjust the weight tho if its too hard

[rare sun]

haha im not saying to give it another try, it just saddens me :c

[bitter hound]

No no I like it, I feel like if I had more time to play with Weather Tweaks in multiplayer I would like it more, the content I've seen with Combined Weathers is so unbalanced but cool as hell

[rare sun]

whenever zigzag mod comes out you will have a more balanced experience hehe

[patent briar]

If I put in combined weather like this in Weather Registry:
Foggy + Rainy@30,Foggy + Flooded@25
They should have the WeatherToWeather/Moon-based weight applied correctly, no?

Or is it sth. like:
Foggy + Rainy@30 Foggy + Flooded@25
or Foggy+Rainy@30 Foggy+Flooded@25

Also, what is this Uncertain Weathers section for in Weather Tweaks? Does it do anything different to the Uncertain Mechanics section?

And last question, how does the Difficulty Multiplier from Weather Tweaks work?
Thanks to anyone who can answer these question ^-^

[thorny salmon]

I can only answer for the first question, it's weather separated by ;
And i actually dont know if combined weathers will be recognized at all, but maybe yes

[viral tree]

Combined weathers are as a separate weathers in WeatherRegistry

[drowsy willow]

1. Registry uses ; as the entry separator, so it's gonna be Foggy+Rainy@30; Foggy+Flooded@25 and so on
2. Uncertain Weathers can switch the whole module off, Uncertain Mechanics select the possible types of uncertainty

[patent briar]

Ah, I see! Thanks a lot ^-^

[drowsy willow]

3. Multiplier settings work as follows:

• Length multiplier is added for every quota fulfilled
• Player multiplier is added for every player in the lobby

Those two are capped by the "Max multiplier" setting

Scale Down Clear Weather checks for amount of weather conditions possible on a given moon and reduces the chance of clear weather based on that

[patent briar]

I see, though, to which weather is it applied in what way?

I currently am trying to set up a configuration where all the weights total in 1000, allowing me to more concretely influence the chances for all weathers

[drowsy willow]

oh, for that you might want to set those multipliers to have a maximum of 0

[patent briar]

I am not entirely opposed to trying out to combine it with my system, mayhaps, for that I'd like to know to what weathers they are applied in what way though ^-^'
But it might just end in that, yeah

My current assumption would be that all weathers but "None" have the multiplier applied?
Then after one quota with one player, all other weather would be multiplied by 1.06

[drowsy willow]

yeah, the multiplier is 1 - (DifficultyMultiplier + PlayersMultiplier)

although i might've broken that

[patent briar]

And it also applies to all weather tweaks and modded weathers, correct?
Cloudy also included?

[drowsy willow]

yes

[patent briar]

Awesome, thank you! ^-^

[drowsy willow]

although

fuck

i'm checking the code now and it might not actually work like that

oh no what have i done

[patent briar]

[drowsy willow]

this is where the calculated difficulty is passed

and the weights are applied

turns out it's not 😳

but yeah, that's how the difficulty is calculated

it only applies to the clear weather

so there's less of it

[patent briar]

I sadly don't quite get it but if I undertand right, you are saying that the multiplier only decreases the chance for "None" but does not heighten the Change for the other weathers

[drowsy willow]

that is correct

I can see that it would be better to scale UP all weathers (except clear one) rather than bring it down

the tweaks do be tweakin

[patent briar]

X3

But indeed, that'd be nice ^-^

So, the intended behavior will be that the multipliers are added onto each other and then taken times all weathers but "None". Would be cool if I could exclude Cloudy for example from that because (from what I have seen when testing) cloudy doesn't really do anything other than have multipliers applied

[thorny salmon]

lmao 😭

[rare sun]

Morv Mrov!! Does wtw weights makes it so only those weathers can get chosen? Or is it just a bigger chance?

[drowsy willow]

"11 months ago" is a cherry on top

[drowsy willow]

it overrides the default one

[rare sun]

:0

[drowsy willow]

so it's just a bigger (or could be lower!) chance

[thorny salmon]

did you find something in your goulash btw? 🥺

[rare sun]

Okiii

[drowsy willow]

i am working on this right now

[rare sun]

Im curious too hehe

[drowsy willow]

the pain is real

[thorny salmon]

damn

🗿

[rare sun]

I spent like 30 minutes crying at the multiple progressive weather thingy

100% true

[rare sun]

You can do it!!!!

We believe in you

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-kiss-lunaistabby-kitty-cute-cat-gif-702362695713301435

[thorny salmon]

I also believe in mrov's magical soup

but unfortunately i cant wait forever so im sorry if i release the tool before you find the fix

[rare sun]

:0

[drowsy willow]

fair enough

[rare sun]

🥀

[thorny salmon]

btw i want to apologize for all of that, like thats because of me that you are going into the goulash rn whereas me i just wanted to have fun with combined weathers😔

[drowsy willow]

hey, don't worry about this 😅

[thorny salmon]

yeah i know, but this is the real pain for you, as you said

[drowsy willow]

going through tweaks' code would give everyone such pain

🤭

[patent briar]

Oh! I saw your showcase a few days ago X3
Nice project but poor mrov indeed

[drowsy willow]

this is the goulash i've made myself almost 2 years ago

[thorny salmon]

that is indeed true, i tried myself but i didnt understood what was going on 😳

[drowsy willow]

and i can't fix it for the life of me

patches upon patches

[thorny salmon]

yeah😴

[drowsy willow]

i've managed to reproduce this error again, and i really don't know why it happens

i'll check in the scene itself if there's something re-enabling this mess

[thorny salmon]

😭 holy, if you are at the point where you need to check the scene then i guess its sooo over

[drowsy willow]

there is nothing in the code that pops up

which means neither Tweaks nor Registry is doing it

🙂

[thorny salmon]

hmm idk if i need to take this positively or not

[rare sun]

:0

[rare sun]

were you able to recreate it with base tweaks, or zigzag's mod?

[thorny salmon]

we managed to do it with only tweaks

[drowsy willow]

019a260e-714f-1704-5974-18a16f0d2652

[rare sun]

then how can it not be tweaks or registry...

unless one of the weather mods... :0

[drowsy willow]

what i meant by that is: it's not enabled by tweaks and/or registry

[thorny salmon]

wait, could it be imperium?

[rare sun]

zeekers moment?

[drowsy willow]

which suggests either me not covering enough edge-cases or vanilla deciding to enable it themselves

[drowsy willow]

fuck i don't know

[rare sun]

or maybe imperium yeah

[drowsy willow]

time to check!

[rare sun]

imperium already messed with a few things when i was testing

bugging out fog

[thorny salmon]

thats is true

[drowsy willow]

the way effects are handled are separate from the "current planet weather"

oh no it didn't happen now

[thorny salmon]

what

[patent briar]

@drowsy willow I took the liberty to make a small pull request for changes to the Read Me so that others like me won't have to ask you about these things again :3

[thorny salmon]

ive managed to reproduce it without imperium, but i admit this is a bit uncertain since it's hard to replicate exactly without like waiting 10min for the time to pass

[drowsy willow]

ohno

[rare sun]

yeah its really really specific scenarios

sometimes it works without issues, other times it breaks with the first day

the curse of progression

you cant progress without taking a few steps back from time to time

https://tenor.com/view/cat-moo-cat-moo-gif-8734802779884778845

[drowsy willow]

i wanted to find a solution

but that's not really gonna happen 😅

time for a hack

[thorny salmon]

what kind of hack? 🧐

[drowsy willow]

not sure yet

[rare sun]

redoing the entire code from 0

[drowsy willow]

i would rather die

[drowsy willow]

WeatherTweaks 1.1.6

• fixed an issue with progressing weather effects persisting between days/saves (thanks: @thorny salmon, @rare sun !)
• fixed an issue with difficulty multipliers not being applied (thanks, @patent briar !)

[rare sun]

https://tenor.com/view/fridge-meme-good-ending-black-man-opening-gif-17099877077400562986

[thorny salmon]

Let's gooooooooooooooooooooo 🙌 🙌 🙌 🙌 🙌 🙌 🙌 🙌 🙌 🙌 🙌

[patent briar]

Hell yeah! ^-^

[drowsy willow]

1 MILLION?

🤭

[patent briar]

Holy moly. Deserves it though! 🔥

[thorny salmon]

😊 ggs

[thorny salmon]

how to fix the goulash? change 1 random line that does random things https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherTweaks/commit/6070f94f462acc10505ba689145a9dd884180c96

im actually still surprised this worked

[drowsy willow]

we did not test that super thoroughly

but it seems to be working lmaoooooo

[thorny salmon]

well yeah, i hope nothing else breaks but i wasnt able to reproduce the issue and same for cheese

so yeah i guess its working 🥸

[slow maple]

CONGRATULATIONS ROV!!!

[drowsy willow]

thank you 🤭

[slow maple]

tweaks was a must have back then and it still is

[drowsy willow]

this should not ever have happened lol

[slow maple]

i looove it

[drowsy willow]

😇

[slow maple]

youre stuck with wt

FOREVER!!

[drowsy willow]

😥

[rare sun]

you gotta try zigzig new mod too

monty you gotta try uhmmm forgor the name

[slow maple]

combined weathers toolkit?

[drowsy willow]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1432472876237455572

[rare sun]

yeah yeah i meant to say you gotta try impending storm

that shi is fire fuego

[thorny salmon]

lmao 1M download chad vs 0 download sigma

[drowsy willow]

that scares me

NOOO

[slow maple]

lemsmile

[viral tree]

I'm so proud of you 🥺

[ancient depot]

Congrats morv, you’ve more than deserved it ^^

It’s about to get a ton more downloads too now that Zigzag’s toolkit is out. I’ve been waiting for that to release

[rare sun]

its amazing

lunx you gotta try impending storm :3

its my fav creation

and of course a "end of the world only" stream hehe
-# /j

[thorny salmon]

lol its literally unplayable for real

[rare sun]

died in godmode

[viral tree]

Died in the ship

[quiet agate]

is there somewhere i can read abt the hybrid weather selection algorithm in registry

[patent briar]

Would be curious how that works as well. Vanilla is purely random as I remember

[drowsy willow]

happy to explain

[quiet agate]

yeah the weather itself is random but the amoutn of moons that arent clear has some logic to it

[quiet agate]

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-bounce-gif-4494413053043569714

[drowsy willow]

hybrid algorithm:

1. selects levels to have a weather (same as vanilla)
2. uses weights to determine which weather will be picked

[quiet agate]

ahh okay it makes a lot of sense

thats sick i love that its an option

[drowsy willow]

yeah, it was requested by a few people 😅

[quiet agate]

@patent briar u can read abt that here btw https://lethal.miraheze.org/wiki/Weather its fairly simple but kinda interesting

[quiet agate]

💪

[patent briar]

Oh hell yes, thanks a lot!!

[quiet agate]

("weather choice" at the bottom)

[patent briar]

This sounds extremely smart. Is none in the vanilla pool for weather options on a planet that will have weather?

[drowsy willow]

not really, no

the weather options for a given moon (SelectableLevel.randomWeathers) usually contains only the non-clear weathers inside

[patent briar]

So, either has weather or not in vanilla- no chance to be picked for weather and not have it

[drowsy willow]

there are some mods (like ButteryRebalance) that add it there as well

[patent briar]

I see

[drowsy willow]

yeah, that's correct

[patent briar]

Thanks a bunch, I might consider hybrid now

[quiet agate]

hybrid seems pretty peak

[drowsy willow]

that was one of the things i wanted to change with weighted weather selection

but it could cause issues like: a clear weahter doesn't have a 50/50 chance, but vastly smaller

[patent briar]

Would fit pretty well for a vanilla-like modpack and absolve me of managing chances for no weather at all in my config

[drowsy willow]

which is not for everyone 😅

[quiet agate]

exactly what im using this for rn 💪

[patent briar]

So, in vanilla, the chance for clear weather is quite low

[drowsy willow]

if you enable Debug logging for Registry it will give you detailed info of weights used

[quiet agate]

btw if i leave this as the default will all moons have weight 50 or would i need to write something like All@50;

[drowsy willow]

as i've said: it's 50/50 (because it rolls if the moon will have weather) and after that it's equal chance for every weather

[quiet agate]

just trying to get a hybrid setup that works identically to vanilla so i can use it as a template

[drowsy willow]

yeah, All@50 will work

[quiet agate]

win

[patent briar]

I see

[drowsy willow]

wait a moment

no

[quiet agate]

blank field for weather-to-weather is fine right?

[drowsy willow]

@quiet agate you can just leave the default to 50

and leave level weights and w2w blank

yeah

[patent briar]

Now I get it, then I will stick with weights only; Gives the most control

[quiet agate]

u mean leaving it as moonname@50 will set all moons to 50 weight?

[drowsy willow]

nooo 😅

[quiet agate]

OH

[drowsy willow]

you have a Default weight slider on top

[quiet agate]

I GOT IT

im being silly

yeah

u right

thankjs

[drowsy willow]

that will control every moon if level weights and w2w are blank

[quiet agate]

win

[drowsy willow]

@quiet agate ^^

to confirm if it's set correctly 🤭

[quiet agate]

ooh yeah ive noticed this before

it has a big fancy table

[drowsy willow]

🤭

[abstract pivot]

lol

[drowsy willow]

is that save loading?

[abstract pivot]

looks like it

[drowsy willow]

this says: in the save there's no data for Oxyde, i'm setting this to have no weather

[abstract pivot]

ic, well im hoping that the moon loading being from a different lib isn't breaking any of it

[drowsy willow]

if you're setting your levels to be in StartOfRound.selectableLevels it should be good 👍

or whatever it was called

[abstract pivot]

yeah it is, when do you check that btw?

[drowsy willow]

probably in Terminal.Start

let me check that rq

yup

[abstract pivot]

okie good to know, was that a postfix or prefix?

oh its a postfix lol

alright

[drowsy willow]

yeaah

[patent briar]

@drowsy willow does the filter/blacklist also work for relational weather weights?
If i have w2w from cloudy to rainy but rainy is blacklisted on Rend, does the blacklist still apply?

[drowsy willow]

filter overrides weights

so the weight would still be registered, but it's not gonna be used if the weather is not possible

[patent briar]

Hell yes, thank you!

[viral tree]

[drowsy willow]

how

why

what

[rare sun]

XD

[viral tree]

I think I know why

level filter is empty

[drowsy willow]

but it will never be picked because those conditions (rainy and eclipsed) are not on gordion

[thorny salmon]

i think it does not matter, it will be picked if the chance is rolled no matter what

[drowsy willow]

not really how tweaks work

if all partial weathers can't exist, it will never be rolled

[thorny salmon]

yes but what if you enable special weather configs?

[drowsy willow]

it only makes them visible

[thorny salmon]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

then how kiszony managed to make it work

[viral tree]

filtering option (OFF) (blacklist)
level filter - empty

[drowsy willow]

if that works i'm gonna be amazed

i'll check when i have the time

[patent briar]

Had that happen as well today with None > Eclipsed which is meant to be disabled

[thorny salmon]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[patent briar]

(I do not yet have installed Combined Weather Toolkit btw.)

[rare sun]

Install it

Right now!!!!

Lethal rebirth 3.0!!

[patent briar]

X3

It is on the roadmap but no priority rn

[rare sun]

If you need help just tell me :3

I contributed to a few combined weathers

My fav are the multiple progressive weather

Such a underdog mechanic

Best one hehe

[patent briar]

I'll be sure to let you know for that then. Help for that could be needed :3

[worldly sleet]

always unknown does not work

[thorny salmon]

did you saw gravitational freeze hehehe?

thats literally your idea but renamed

you got awesome ideas my friend

[rare sun]

Ty :3

Which one was gravitational freeze?

I think there is way too much potential on multiple progresive weathers

I really happy mrov was able to fix it and you for making it so easy to use

[thorny salmon]

hot to cold

there was thermal shift which was your cold to hot idea

now there is the other one

[thorny salmon]

Progressive weathers are so soooo cool indead, but just having 2 effects is sometime not that cool
having multiple ones however, now thats peak

thats why i really want to implement my evolutive weathers idea, i think it would help when dealing with weathers that despawn too violently

[rare sun]

Yippeee

[rare sun]

If you manage to do it it would be so fkn peak

Game changer

Progressive end of the world

Starts clear

Ends with everything

A real tick bomb

[thorny salmon]

lmao so cool

[bitter hound]

End of the World with more End of the World
Truly the peak of gameplay

Can we just fill the skybox with blood moons if it's End of the World, or use whatever the fuck was going on in [Bozo](#1362461184468455424 message)

[thorny salmon]

for the skybox, it's already the case but you cant see it due to black fog (if you have it installed at least)
for the sun/moon size, it will depend of the sun size of the moon you are on, so it can vary

[thorny salmon]

If some user want to have combined weathers added into their game, i legit see no reason for them to not have Combined Weathers toolkit, with the default weathers and a bit of weight configuration you can have something very cool
And thats exactly what i wanted of WeatherTweaks when i first started using it, but in reality this was too limited
Like, heres what i was able to configure with just some small edits in all the available configs, im sorry but thats so sooo cool 🙌

Yeah im not hiding the fact that i made this for myself in the first place lol 😂 but mrov was not really working on WT anymore, so i just had to make it

[rare sun]

:00000

Really glad you made it public

Best feature ever

[thorny salmon]

🙌

its not a secret, everyone knows that i m the one playing with WR the most and creating all sorts of different situations where it would break mrov's mods

so making it public means that now random users can find all these problems, which will like multiplies all mrovs problems by 2 hheheheee 🥸

[rare sun]

100%

[thorny salmon]

be prepared as what mrov is cooking, ill break everything again i swear

[rare sun]

Also guysssss i got cloudy :0

[rare sun]

Mrovs foods are so goods

[thorny salmon]

what is that pic?

🧐

[rare sun]

Beanie new moon

[thorny salmon]

[rare sun]

Hehe, thats how the weather is where i am rn

[thorny salmon]

AH

dayum

[rare sun]

IM ON IMPENDING STORM

My creation has become real

Now its stormy

[raven jungle]

We got Rainy > Cloudy > Rain here today

[viral tree]

Bro you're not in Jamaica, stop lying