#Weather Registry / Weather Tweaks / mrov

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drowsy willow
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in the WeatherRegistry config - you have to start a lobby once for all weathers to generate their configs

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alrighty, good to know!

obtuse ocean
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Ohh, gotcha. Thanks!

queen shadow
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Yup that is exactly the behaviour i described a bit above here #1203871322841808906 message

ember island
queen shadow
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Okay maybe not quite the same then. Still, interesting that getting fired fixes so much stuff

rare sun
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Is it possible to disable some weathers in certain moons? I was looking in the config but didnt understand a lot im dumb

drowsy willow
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something must be working incorrectly, fuck

queen shadow
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"As you have somehow broken the weather cycle, your performance has been deemed below standard. Welcome to our disciplinary process."

drowsy willow
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I'll surely - surely - check what's going on when I'll have enough time

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probably next month

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moving out is a bitch

broken gull
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i did some looking around before asking to make sure this info isnt available anywhere else (unless its #1203871322841808906 message) and in terms of scrap multipliers i have no idea how progressing weather conditions mix together. as in if a moon is eclipsed (3 amount, 3 value) and then progresses to another, how does it apply the multipliers?
central config is off this time and has been off i promise

drowsy willow
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since scrap is generated before you start loading

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*landing

hazy dirge
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How could I go about forcing a planet to always have a combined weather? and what exactly causes them to fail to apply?

plucky notch
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This may have been answered before, but is it possible to disable the Combined Weathers and Progressing Weathers part of WeatherTweaks? Didn't see an opton for it in LethalConfig

keen palm
plucky notch
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I don't see an option for it unless it's one of these Debug options. Everything on and below Special Modes is set to false and Difficulty Multipliers are set to 0

sage thorn
plucky notch
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Worked! Thanks for the assistance you two

stark scaffold
nocturne lily
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i think you do need dusted

gray kayak
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yeah u do

rare sun
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Has someone tried blackout in asteroid13??

sullen patio
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oh yeah its awful

rare sun
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But how does it work?

hollow yoke
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it
it makes the moon have a blackout

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is not rocket science brah

gray kayak
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it could be

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we are on an asteroid....

rare sun
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Well yeah but i mean in eclipse asteroid breaks the lights so you cant turn them on, that happens in blackout too?

hazy dirge
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Still hoping to figure out why combined weathers just don't seem to work for me

drowsy willow
hazy dirge
hazy dirge
drowsy willow
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does that planet allow both Snowfall and Eclipsed to happen?

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because that log suggests it's not

hazy dirge
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I did set weights for both those weathers on the same planet too, and it usually had one of those weathers but never both

drowsy willow
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huh

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could you send me your modpack code? i'll take a quick look

hazy dirge
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yeah, my first assumption is other mods interfering because the pack is pretty robust. gimme one second

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0195b47a-1597-4551-4c2a-2545b253675b
here's the code, the planet I'm trying to force this on is Lament

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I'm going to try making a fresh profile with just the planet & the weather mods and see if it works with that

drowsy willow
hazy dirge
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is there a mistake here?

drowsy willow
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i don't know why

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but i can't see weathers being picked for Lament whatsoever

hazy dirge
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I'm trying it now with a tiny profile with just the necessary mods and still getting similar outcomes for some reason

drowsy willow
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that's interesting

hollow yoke
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checking the dependencies of lament

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JLL is one

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so JLL might be blocking weather changes due to hardcoding of it

drowsy willow
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registry would still attempt to change the weather tho

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and it's not showing anything

hazy dirge
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Singular weathers seem to be working perfectly fine there, I even had it give foggy + stormy in this new test profile, but it specifically always refuses eclipsed + snowfall regardless of weights

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so strange

drowsy willow
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fuck

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how

hazy dirge
drowsy willow
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okay, it's fucking broken

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i'll let you know when it's fixed

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god 😭

hazy dirge
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Godspeed my man

drowsy willow
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it's resolved correctly and passed wrong

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i cannot

hazy dirge
spark blaze
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maybe you forgot to watermark one of your methods with the legendary mrov stamp of stability™️

drowsy willow
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that is true

jade field
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#1268919667347427390 message

drowsy willow
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I know what the issue is, will try to have it fixed ASAP

drowsy willow
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success

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it's gonna be fixed in the next update

nocturne lily
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Do you know if triggers can cause weather effects to stop playing? I had a weird interaction happen on Rosie's moon Affliction while stormy. The same thing I mentioned a lot earlier about rain effects being disabled but lightning still striking was happening, but only when getting close to the main staircase (from the top). I believe there is a trigger in that position to either activate dust clouds or change the audio setup

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It being triggers might actually explain why I got it to happen on other moons too

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I'll try to get a video of it happening

drowsy willow
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that could be a thing, yeah

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i'm not sure if it works with disabling the effects, but i'm 100% certain they can enable the effects

nocturne lily
drowsy willow
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oh, interesting

nocturne lily
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in this particular case the weather was showing as unknown before it chose stormy

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so idk if normal stormy causes it as well

drowsy willow
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that doesn't impact it whatsoever

nocturne lily
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ok

drowsy willow
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why is it broken 😦

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god damn i hate it 😂

nocturne lily
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i could ask rosie if there's any specific trigger setup here

drowsy willow
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🥺

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okie

nocturne lily
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so what i'm seeing in rosies thread is that yes, reverb triggers can disable weather effects, affliction disables them so that things like rain don't go through the ceiling

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but even though it has a 2 sided reverb trigger it's disabling on the way out as well

drowsy willow
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hmm

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fair enough

abstract pivot
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the rain should be getting blocked through colliders

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not reverbs

nocturne lily
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i think so too

nocturne lily
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it would be easier than relying on reverb triggers

drowsy willow
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i'll try to have a release ready for tomorrow

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is there anything that needs fixing in Registry/Tweaks?

drowsy willow
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oops, i lied

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WeatherRegistry 0.5.5

  • re-done TextPostProcess transpilers to display override names correctly
  • adding a check to replace spaces in config names
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that is not the forecast update

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i need to do a lot more and test even more to do that properly

stark scaffold
drowsy willow
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exactly what is says

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i've redone the way i patched the vanilla method to change the weather names in more places

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it was in response to an issue posted here 2 weeks ago

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WeatherTweaks 1.1.3

  • fixed an issue with uncertain weathers displaying incorrect names
  • fixed an issue with combined weathers resolving partial weathers incorrectly (thanks, @hazy dirge !)
hazy dirge
paper rampart
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it reset my configs

drowsy willow
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all of them? 😧

stark scaffold
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not mine

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my configs are normal

hollow yoke
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did you load into the game

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loading in is what alters configs properly

drowsy willow
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oh are you talking about the missing descriptions?

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those are connected after lobby load

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so it should be normal

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🥺

stark scaffold
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nope

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I loaded in and they are still there

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I landed also and they are still here

paper rampart
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I had it disabled it on experimentation for a while, and once I loaded up it had solar flare on experimentation

drowsy willow
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OH RIGHT

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that is my fault

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you should be able to salvage it tho

paper rampart
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so how many things reset

drowsy willow
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because the category names changed

paper rampart
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because I have about 30 moons here and every was changed

drowsy willow
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from Solar Flare to SolarFlare 😳

paper rampart
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what about heatwave

drowsy willow
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you should be able to change those names in the text editor

drowsy willow
paper rampart
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so its just really solar flare?

drowsy willow
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Dustclouds and solarflare should be the only ones

paper rampart
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tweaked those

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these aren't appearing anymore

drowsy willow
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what do you mean these aren't appearing?

paper rampart
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they aren't there

drowsy willow
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oh what the fuck

paper rampart
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yeah

drowsy willow
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nooooooo 😦

queen ingot
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always unknown config option doesnt work? or are there any mods interfering with it?

paper rampart
drowsy willow
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does it not work

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😧

queen ingot
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it doesnt for me

drowsy willow
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fuck

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could you send me your modpack code?

queen ingot
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0195bf86-417a-61b9-552d-f01e370aaf56

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i didnt have time to test if other mods break it

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i just noticed it not working as we startet playing half an hour ago

drowsy willow
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thanks, will check

queen ingot
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also i havent used that option on months so i dont know if one of the later updates made it break or if its been something for a longer time

drowsy willow
drowsy willow
paper rampart
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0195bfc3-80ba-022b-b04a-32c1323e1571

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unfished version of my modpack update

queen ingot
drowsy willow
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yes

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since it's one of the uncertain types 🥺

queen ingot
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ah gotcha

drowsy willow
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i don't know what to tell you

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it appeared normally

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even after deleting the configfile completely

stark scaffold
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It did not reset for me

rare sun
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what is this UAHGHHUAHGHHH

jaunty imp
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idk looks like it's weather registry dot weathery on galetry

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perfect conditions for starting a journey

rare sun
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i love when (None (WeatherRegistry.Weather)) in galetry

abstract pivot
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has anyone seen any custom weathers this update? lol

drowsy willow
drowsy willow
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how

thorny salmon
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speeking of galetry, i used the whitelist config to make Galetry in snowy weather and it's peaked

rare sun
# drowsy willow how

What does that even mean 😭, i didn't go there so idk what would have happened

stark scaffold
# drowsy willow

What names were changed and do I need to regenerate my config file

thorny salmon
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ok boys, I'm working on some custom weathers rn, this will take some time but hopefully i can create a ton of crazy weathers like this (if you know, you know 😗)

hollow yoke
thorny salmon
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maybe

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but first im gonna destroy the world

drowsy willow
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oh dear god

azure dirge
thorny salmon
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Yes

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  • another thing
brisk ether
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Why does LethalMeltdown not work on Blackout

drowsy willow
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that is a great question

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does it work on any other modded weather?

brisk ether
placid ridge
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Also that new weather is lookin 🔥
The question is: ||how will the oath to order interact with it?||

thorny salmon
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hehehe good question

rare sun
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i finally tested blackout on asteroid13

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and it didn't happen what i was thinking

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looks the same

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does blackout turn off the lights in the interior too?

toxic wadi
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How do scrap multipliers work with WeatherTweaks weathers? Configs for their scrap multipliers don't generate in WeatherRegistry

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I am hoping it just applies the individual weather scrap multipliers or something so that I don't have to set all of them individually

rare sun
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tho it didn't turn off the lights for me

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i was in toy store

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does it work with blackout?

drowsy willow
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something like "generate special weathers configs"

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there are defaults based on the weights of other weathers in your config, but the defaults are a little wrong

toxic wadi
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Oh that’s what that does

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I’ll try that thx

slow maple
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good morning weather central

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blackout is uniquely evil, thank you mrov

nocturne lily
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rock

rare sun
# slow maple

man really made a bunch of tier list for us to see

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whats the one right of snowfall?

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and the ones in "Oh dear fucking lord"

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i guess one of them is the meteor shower

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but then whats the other

slow maple
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I just added the vanilla weathers

abstract pivot
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one of the dear fucking lord is the vanilla meteor shower

slow maple
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@gritty lily you should add them I think

abstract pivot
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as far as i can tell

hollow yoke
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yeah meteor shower isnt a weather type

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in vanilla

abstract pivot
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it's close enough

slow maple
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there's a weather warning

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🤓 ☝️

abstract pivot
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also for default settings this new discord UI is ZOOMED out

rare sun
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so nobody know what are the ones i asked

abstract pivot
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i gave you one of em

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idk what snowfall is i dont play the game

slow maple
slow maple
abstract pivot
slow maple
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hate the square icons

abstract pivot
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that too

slow maple
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you can tell it actually ruins so many fucking server icons

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why the fuck did they do it

rare sun
abstract pivot
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it does yeah lol

rare sun
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how is that flooded

slow maple
rare sun
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i cannot see it

slow maple
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lol

abstract pivot
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also this image has a face in it

rare sun
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oooh

abstract pivot
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oh its top down? lol

rare sun
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omg

slow maple
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Lethal Company Wiki

Weather refers to a multitude of extra conditions that could be affecting any moon, usually adding additional challenges and hazards to the outdoor area of the given moon the Employee landed on...

slow maple
hollow yoke
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imo eclipsed is over-hated

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mostly lack of understanding in depth mechanics

gritty lily
abstract pivot
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flooded, the only weather that has depth to it, is shown in the most 2d way possible 😭

slow maple
hollow yoke
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eclipsed can be really fun

rare sun
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so funny

abstract pivot
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yw

abstract pivot
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actually here's a better one

slow maple
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brown flooded

abstract pivot
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why is this even a thing

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u telling people who've already drowned

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that there's a flood?

rare sun
hollow yoke
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2013 ahh image

rare sun
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most original 2013 movie poster

thorny salmon
slow maple
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it's gonna be peak

thorny salmon
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i wonder in which category people will put it hmmm, but at the same time I think i already know

pallid sandal
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Hello! I tried disabling all weathers but Blackout (setting weight to 0 or disabling the weather itself) but somehow it doesn't work. All weathers are as clear, and the moon won't load. Anyone have this issue?

viral tree
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Try enabling whitelist on all weathers, including blackout
And type all the moons names into blackout's whitelist

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(Splendid gaming idea that I have to test it myself once I get back home greed)

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Mrov, (if you ever read this because I never ping if it isn't important) you should def make eclipse + blackout greed
The potential of increased spawnrates + some mod that changed eclipsed ambient (I would choose terraria eclipse event theme), it'll be peak gaming experience like never before greed

broken gull
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whats the two in i can have fun with weather and play video game?

drowsy willow
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will do

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💀

drowsy willow
drowsy willow
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if Registry can't roll any weather it's setting clear one

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so on some levels blackout must be unavailable

viral tree
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I mean...

pallid sandal
pallid sandal
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I used the Blackout+Rainy etc aswell

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I want to make a modpack based off of that idea

drowsy willow
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oopsie

drowsy willow
pallid sandal
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Players will know it's always blackout, but... Blackout+something? Ah that's a surprise

drowsy willow
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always hide or sometimes hide?

pallid sandal
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Always hide

drowsy willow
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and enable "always unknown" mode

pallid sandal
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Alright thanks

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Last question: Is there a way to add weather combinations?

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I can't see Blackout+Stormy or Blackout+Flooded etc

viral tree
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nope

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that's why I requested blackout+eclipsed 😅

pallid sandal
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And it got added?

viral tree
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not yet

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right @drowsy willow <.<

pallid sandal
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What do you mean?

daring pivot
pallid sandal
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Well I'm hereby officially requesting all Blackout weather combinations!

viral tree
daring pivot
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/j

young dirge
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Morv greed

viral tree
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Morv greed

daring pivot
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Morv greed

azure dirge
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Morv greed

thorny salmon
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Morv greed

fiery wyvern
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Mrov greed

abstract pivot
drowsy willow
hollow yoke
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@drowsy willow before i forget to report this

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apparatusfix is broken and the apparatus doesnt make sounds when pulled and the lights dont flicker

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you also dont get the radiation warning pop up

nocturne lily
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Do you have logs or anything to prove it

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Cus I just put it in my profile yesterday and I didn't notice any problems

hollow yoke
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might be a conflict with something else then

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ill get logs later

drowsy willow
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other things - no

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if you get that happening again, send me a log 😇

hollow yoke
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nvm it isnt happening now

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wtf

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also

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i meant immediately after it being pulled

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not while its in the ship

drowsy willow
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🥺

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it just stops now

little sedge
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this is rlly funny to me

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the apparatus is supposed to stop playing sound immediately when pulled but bc of a soundapi bug or something it wouldnt happen for clients

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i just fixed apparatusfix so it stops playing the sound when you pull it like in the vanilla game

hollow yoke
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the special sound it plays for being picked up when you pull it out of the generator?

drowsy willow
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oh

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💀

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right

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fuck

abstract pivot
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My god

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Isn't this a sound api bug anyway?

drowsy willow
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don't know

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maybe I'm doing a little oopsie and cancelling all sounds immidiately

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rather than doing that after the shutdown plays

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🤭 🤭

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will check when I've got the time

abstract pivot
# drowsy willow don't know

Well I just don't see any way that there's any desyncs between players with the apparatus sound when you're carrying it around, or ever at all

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And apparatus fix is so old and iirc lunxara asked for it that I'm wondering if it's even an actual issue that exists in vanilla LOL

drowsy willow
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oh you're talking about that bug as a whole

abstract pivot
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Yeah like the point of apparatus fix

drowsy willow
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I have no fucking idea how that happens (or even if it's 100% soundapi)

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but sometimes when host pulls apparatus all clients can hear it buzzing constantly

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and - even better - when client does that it's not shutting up at all

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so my mod is a dirty bandaid for that - when in ship, shut up

abstract pivot
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Yeah it's just, looking at the code, I have no idea how it's even possible

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To desync

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It's so simple

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It's just "when grabbed, rpc disable the sound and other stuff"

drowsy willow
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I'll try to check if I can repro it today tbh

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because it was happening with just the Lethal Resonance and dependencies installed

abstract pivot
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Yeah if it's a sound api issue I think it's worth just turning on soundapi logs, sending it in the thread, waiting for a fix and deprecating afterwards, cuz vanilla should be okay

drowsy willow
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if

abstract pivot
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cus vanilla should be okay

little sedge
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not in lan

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i think soundapi is just cursed tbh

abstract pivot
vestal socket
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uh what does this mean

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eclipsed > none

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also can i change how many weather conditions are on a moon?

lofty silo
vestal socket
lofty silo
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It says its changing to none in your screenshot, unless i’ve been reading these wrong the whole time

vestal socket
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when i went into the moon

lofty silo
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What weather did it start as

vestal socket
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eclipsed

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but it at the same time said it would change to eclipsed

hollow yoke
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when you have a changing weather

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the first weather that its starting at says that

vestal socket
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alr

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am i able to change how frequent weather is or whatever

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or have more than 2 weather conditions on a moon

toxic wadi
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Are there known incompatibilities with WeatherTweaks's always unknown weather? I have it set to true but it still displays the weather.

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I am stupid. This needs to be set to true. I thought it only applied to uncertain weather instead of unknown, so I turned it off.

rare sun
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is the weather/weather really a 50/50? i always get the first one, maybe my luck is weird but really

rare sun
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does someone know if this mod is compatible with weather registry and other weather mods?

lofty silo
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it is

rare sun
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😮

rare sun
lofty silo
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Yep, I use both together just fine

rare sun
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ty yoiled

drowsy willow
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😅

drowsy willow
little sedge
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so it just doesn't run before 8am or something

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but its such a non issue

drowsy willow
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it's happening because I streamlined the old system to use one logic

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so now it correctly does the "change" at 0 time to the first weather

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I'll get working on all the stuff next week

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probably

vestal socket
lilac rivet
vestal socket
rare sun
rare sun
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And maybe heatwave and solar flare too

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But never cloudy

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Thats just too much

vestal socket
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ngl not enough

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we might have to add cloudy

rare sun
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Omg

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You crazy man

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The other day i got eclipsed + flooded + rainy + stormy

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And playing a bit it appeared on the screen

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Meteor shower

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That was fun

drowsy willow
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oh no 💀

harsh flicker
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In terms of combined weathers, is your plan to just manually add ones you like, create a tutorial/template mod or something so people can register their own, or is it to make that a thing in WeatherTweaks where people can make their own in the config?
Or any combination of those?

silent goblet
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I didn't see a separate listing for your declutter mod so I hope you don't mind me asking in here.
Is it possible to use declutter with unlock to auto-position items, but only once at startup? Nobody's made the item equivalent of FurnitureLock (yet!) and your combo seems really close. :>

drowsy willow
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I have a lot planned for that mod(s), but I sincerely don't know when I'll be able (and willing) to work on them again 😅

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I'll save your suggestion for that tho 😇

silent goblet
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understandable! good luck greetings

harsh flicker
exotic wharf
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Hey Mrov would it be possible to add a option to not override the map screen? I'm using a mod that randomizes and hides the moons, and the screen is supposed to say redacted, but with weather registry, shows the normal screen

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Or if anyone knows of a mod that removes the text all together and overrides this mod that would be nice too

drowsy willow
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mods can disable that patch in Registry

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i don't recall which one of route Randoms worked with that patch 🥺

thorny salmon
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You can use RandomMoonFX, you'll still see the screen text but the moon will start automatically you will not have time to do anything

drowsy willow
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that is a solution

queen ingot
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i miss mrov's old mod wich simply hid the terminal info wich worked perfectly fine with ExtraTerminalCommands wich had a simple random command too

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now everything is just weird if you realy want everything to be random und unclear

drowsy willow
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you can check if it still works, but i'd rather make my own routeRandom thing that fix that 😅

queen ingot
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why cant i find it anymore when i look for it myself

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even if i enable deprecated it just doesnt show up

exotic wharf
queen ingot
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it works just fine

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  • ExtraTerminalCommands for the random command
queen ingot
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AnimatedPlink whats with orion wrong

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vulcan-9 also

rare sun
exotic wharf
queen ingot
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i think the answer was simply that he wont update it anymore

drowsy willow
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but if there's interest for it I can modernize it

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and make it less bad

exotic wharf
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A config to change exactly what the map screen does read would be nice, but I like the red Redacted tags over the info anyway

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I didn't see any errors from it so it can't be too bad right?

rare sun
queen ingot
exotic wharf
queen ingot
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i think it should atleast not be deprecated until its confirmed broken

drowsy willow
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fair enough

rare sun
toxic wadi
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How does weathertweaks’ scale none weather work? From the description I thought it would make moons have None weather 50% of the time regardless of the weather pool, but it didn’t seem to work that way

little sedge
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the blood filling the screen

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i might make a plugin to add it back

nocturne lily
little sedge
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oh okie good

brisk ether
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does this mean i get less scrap

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because its a decimal...

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unless its really a divider

little sedge
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why would it be a divider

little sedge
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unless the default value in vanilla is already that low or something

nocturne lily
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what sky volumes do combined weathers use? I did a test on a modded moon (Hadal Laboratories) to see the difference between 3 different weathers and it seems a little weird, i'll post pics

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stormy + rainy

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it's looking like combined weather uses the clear weather volume

stark scaffold
#

For some reason it says clear on some moons then it rains

little sedge
stark scaffold
#

no

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adamance

little sedge
#

lol wtf

stark scaffold
#

it happened with other moons

little sedge
#

r u sure it wasnt uncertain

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like clear? specifically

stark scaffold
#

yes it was clear

nocturne lily
#

Uh

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Do you use darmuhs terminal stuff

toxic wadi
queen shadow
# nocturne lily Do you use darmuhs terminal stuff

Out of curiosity, how would that relate to the issue jori described?

(i use DTS myself with the moonsplus viewer enabled and the weather list works fine - thats the only thing that immediately comes to mind with DTS)

nocturne lily
queen shadow
#

Ohhhhhhh

nocturne lily
#

Sometimes I've been tricked by it cus the moons page will be on and it doesn't update when you go back to orbit

queen shadow
#

yeah that might do it

nocturne lily
#

So moons page will say 1 weather and then when you route to it it will be different because the page wasn't updated

queen shadow
#

It would still say the weather on the moon info/description screen behind the ship lever though

nocturne lily
#

Mean it more for routing to another moon

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Cus I tend to not look at the confirm screen unless the moon costs money to route to

drowsy willow
#

WeatherRegistry 0.5.6

̵̃͂
̴͋͆H̵͂̐á̷̓p̸̓̀p̴̔͆ý̴ April̕'̶̐͆s̶̅̃ ̵͂́Ḟ̴ools!

hollow yoke
#

not you too

rare sun
drowsy willow
#

have fun 🤭

raw bloom
#

Is WR fine rn

#

or is it like

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unusable

drowsy willow
#

literally nothing changed

nocturne lily
#

misinformation

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how do you explain this mrov

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(idk if this server blocks zalgo text)

daring pivot
#

Weather registers Accept

silent goblet
#

That's just my heart rate when a mimic is waiting for me at the top of a ladder

drowsy willow
#

the text speaks for itself

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😇

keen trail
#

What did the April fools thing even do

nocturne lily
#

afaik nothing

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it was just funny readme and changelog text

slow maple
#

it killed my wife and children

keen trail
#

Oh that sucks, sorry to hear. Maybe weather multipliers might help you mourn

nocturne lily
#

Fuck that I'm going back to MeteoMultiplier

silent goblet
#

Every month at the quarter moon, there'll be a monsoon in your lagoon

vestal socket
#

the roof is leaky plink

ancient depot
#

Mrov made it rain inside just to spite you peepoGiggles

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God this gives me memories of the amount of times I broke WeatherTweaks lol

silent goblet
#

FirstTime?.meme

ancient depot
#

lol

rare sun
#

It rains, it pours, it rains, it pours

drowsy willow
#

oh no how

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💀

#

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

can you trigger that happening consistently?

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fair enough

#

if you get any info, lemme know 🥺

nocturne lily
#

i could try to test it

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it's just none > stormy?

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or none > rainy

drowsy willow
#

or none>rainy

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don't fully know

nocturne lily
#

oh

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there isn't a none > rainy

drowsy willow
#

so it was the stormy one 😅

nocturne lily
#

i'll do it on experimentation

nocturne lily
drowsy willow
#

the best bugs 🙂

nocturne lily
#

weather changed to stormy inside and particles were not showing up inside

silent goblet
#

For next April Fools you should make it so Stormy is replaced with Starmie and it plays the original red & blue gym leader music with lightning replaced with Starmie noises

drowsy willow
#

i had the perfect april fools idea for this year

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didn't have enough time to do it tho 😦

silent goblet
#

bummer.. but you're ready for next year :>

harsh flicker
#

and 0x scrap value

slow maple
lilac rivet
#

oh god..

drowsy willow
#

but it's nice

sage thorn
#

quick note on Blackout weather: I know turret lights were patched out of Blackout a while ago, but I think the lights on mines are still being affected. I guess there's still the sound effect but not sure if this is intended behaviour

drowsy willow
#

landmine lights should be working normally 😳

#

are they not?

rare sun
#

Hi mrov! Just wanted to say i still am only getting the first weather in the 50%

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I really dont know if it is a bug on my end or am i that lucky/unlucky with it

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Ive tried alone and with my friend hosting

drowsy willow
rare sun
drowsy willow
#

no worries

rare sun
#

here it is!!

#

sorry for the wait

wild swift
drowsy willow
#

well, yes

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but in my (limited) testing landmine lights always worked normally

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which is why I'm a bit confused

wild swift
#

in my testing it didn't seem to be working (turrets worked fine), I can give it a shot with just your mod in a bit

sage thorn
drowsy willow
#

OH NO 😭

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I'll get that fixed

wild swift
#

sweet, spike traps also lose their lights atm

drowsy willow
rare sun
drowsy willow
drowsy willow
#

me not being able to read

rare sun
rare sun
drowsy willow
#

i was calling max(0,0) and wondering why it was returning 0

rare sun
#

Oooh

drowsy willow
#

and the thing i was supposed to do was max(0,1)

rare sun
#

Oooh xD

drowsy willow
#

and since Random.Next is not inclusive

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i have done an oopsie

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bad

rare sun
#

So that will get an update?

rare sun
#

Still an amazing mod

drowsy willow
#

i've already pushed it to github, will see if i can get anything more done today

rare sun
#

Okokok

rare sun
#

hey is this gonna make the scrap value lower?

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oh wait im dumb

#

it literally says amount

rare sun
viral tree
slow maple
#

hes nasty. he spilt the doodoo sand on 'im!!!

hollow yoke
#

@drowsy willow so i tried doing a blackout only ironman challenge, additionally using sciencebirdtweaks' setting that makes it even worse and not being allowed to use light sources for help navigating
and im not even gonna lie, i didnt find it that bad at all to navigate moons, and part of that is because ive memorized the lethal company maps so well, but also, i think the brighter ship lights kinda ruin the challenge a bit, because you can, for example, barely see the light reflect off the bridge on vow, and you pretty much have just no problems if you know the maps well enough
the only one that was actually difficult to navigate was offense, aside from embrion, embrion is genuinely fucked with blackout and not being allowed to use a light

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that all is to say, maybe consider making the ship lights less bright..? i know for most people that would make it even more fucked, but at the same time, moons like adamance would actually feel like theyre effected

raw bloom
#

No

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Do not do this

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Blackout is already bad enough for casual players as is

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and this would just make it worse

#

Just because you have an easier time playing it doesn’t mean other people (Like me) do

hollow yoke
#

its not that, its the fact that the light is so bright it made it easier often times

raw bloom
#

Still, keep it where it’s at

#

Especially since entities can apparently lurk in the dark occasionally

#

I will genuinely stop using Blackout altogether if the ship’s lights get, “nerfed”

rare sun
#

guys guys, lets just ask for a config on the lights intensity

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imagine blackout with not even ship lights 💀

rare sun
#

gloom concern

hollow yoke
#

ok so

#

this is considering playing without light sources:

experimentation is basically the same
assurance is decently challenging but has a simple map layout to memorize, fire is borderline unusable
vow is the same as assurance, both entrances can be used, especially since you can see the bridge
offense is the most fair actual challenge
march has two unusable entrances
adamance is basically the same
rend is hard if you dont know the map, but if you do its fine, just dont fuck with fire
dine isnt too hard, the ship lights bleed through mountains and you can line up an entry into main
titan is basically the same
embrion is borderline unplayable, might as well be blindfolded at that point
artifice isnt hard, just line yourself up to the main entrance walking backwards while observing how far the ship is

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also let me just make this clear
i dont want blackout unplayable
but its very evident you probably shouldnt be able to see vows bridge, as well as various other things

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the fire exit closest to main on march is perfectly visible

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the lights bleeding through dines mountains

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various things like that

rare sun
#

i think its a balance bc if you didnt have a flashlight you really are not getting anywhere, making it possible to see far away things makes it easier to play

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bc for example if you are new to the game you really arent getting anywhere with blackout

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it could even be harder than eclipse

harsh flicker
#

Blackout also persists indoors
Making it interior dependant too
Some become harder than others

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Byeah by default i think its fine as it is
A config for no ship light as well could be fine though

drowsy willow
#

to make it challenging, not unplayable

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i'll think about doing a light intensity slider or an option to disable them altogether

obsidian schooner
#

We've just got a weather desync :,]

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let me get the logs

drowsy willow
#

😟

hollow yoke
#

mrov dies

#

(real)

obsidian schooner
# drowsy willow 😟

in short, the desync happened only on one moon after lobby reload, but after that moon, everything managed to fix and sync itself for all players

wild swift
#

anyways next sciencebirdtweaks update will probably include something like this, if intensity is 0 it'll disable the floodlights, also I optimized the material darkening down to like 5-20ms so it can run realtime 🎊 (no more lag spike)

hollow yoke
#

buh?
you aint sciencebird smh

wild swift
#

we're in the same minecraft modding group lol

wild swift
#

We do a little optimization 🤏

hollow yoke
#

vow is a maybe

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dine is also a maybe

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despite the fact i do enjoy dine more than the average active player, i dont visit it too often

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so im not fully accustomed to the layout

wild swift
#

I will make the floodlights throw negative light

wild swift
# wild swift We do a little optimization 🤏

Technically it takes longer, but the application of materials stage is batched over a few frames so you don't actually notice it, the finding lights / filtering is still linear though so might look into batching that as well, wasn't really noticable though so didn't bother.

nocturne lily
#

break every light source in the scene

drowsy willow
wild swift
#

It'll be released with under sciencebirdtweaks for now, but I'm totally down to look into merging. It gets a little funky cause I added a trigger on apparatus removal that triggers a blackout for lighting but not the sun / ship floodlight increase, so in a case like that sciencebirdtweaks either has redundant code with yours or yours would need to be more modular. Same goes for the blacklist which has config support in our version. I have a few more ideas to improve performance in the mean time as well.

Here's the current code if interested
https://github.com/Science-Bird/ScienceBirdTweaks/blob/main/ModPatches/MrovWeathersPatch.cs

https://github.com/Science-Bird/ScienceBirdTweaks/blob/main/Scripts/TrueBlackout.cs

drowsy willow
#

oh, alrighty

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i'm fully down to merging that (and possibly even doing Super Blackout or Total Blackout as a separate weather altogether) into mrovweathers

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so you don't have to do those crazy hacks 🤭

hollow yoke
#

modded weather is so unexplored.. i cry

drowsy willow
#

but no time, desire or skills to pursue them 😭

raw bloom
jade veldt
#

if only it did that instead of crushing you

raw bloom
#

Sorrow crushes you?

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I thought they kill you via dissolving

#

Oh wait no you're right

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Rain World

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Show Artificer this and they'd probably kill two Dozers with one spear

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Oh, "Wither the soul"

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That's why I thought they dissolve you

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LIKE WITHER THE LETHAL COMPANY MOON? Awesome

ashen mulch
thorny salmon
hollow yoke
#

immersion breaking

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F tier 😈

raw bloom
thorny salmon
#

But its difficult to make an original weather without going to deep into the non-vanilla friendly content miaoudeux

ashen mulch
#

I can't wait for Majora

slow maple
#

I think if you stretch the meaning of weather you can do a lot though

ashen mulch
queen shadow
hollow yoke
#

offense with x3 eclipsed effect 🔥

queen shadow
#

i mean theres a few mods that already do multipliers so thats nothing new. I was thinking moreso something for immersion/subtlety.

e.g. scaling rain intensity, with default being a middle ground

  • Drizzle
  • Rain
  • Cloudburst
queen ingot
#

cloudburst with double the amount of quicksand CatPraise i love quicksand

queen shadow
rare sun
#

different fog intensities too would be cool for a variation

queen shadow
#

Mhm, stuff like that - doesnt need to anything revolutionary really.

queen ingot
#

well i actualy didnt say that as a joke lol

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i still wish there would be a realy good quicksand moon

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most are kinda meh

queen shadow
#

Fair honestly

#

quicksand just kinda gets eh after a while

hollow yoke
#

people just hate weather in general

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doesnt matter if its foggy experimentation

queen ingot
#

foggy is just the worst

queen shadow
#

Vanilla weathers are just meh in general

hollow yoke
#

most people just automatically remove the idea of playing it from their brains

#

even if its easy weather on an easy moon

rare sun
#

i love lc weather, i just wished they give you smth for going there

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smth like weather registry that makes scrap have more value

hollow yoke
#

i only really wish there was a slightly better reward for eclipsed moons

rare sun
#

yeah or a reward for going to them

hollow yoke
#

but even then, when you know how eclipsed works in more technical aspects

rare sun
#

that would be cool

hollow yoke
#

eclipsed is only really bad on like 5 moons

rare sun
#

bc if they just make the game harder with nothing in return whats the point going there

queen shadow
#

What im saying/thinking with my idea is basically; id ideally want weathers to not be a "fully going or not going at all" thing, but be more dynamic overall

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Purely for immersion; you could land on a moon and you'd hear rolling thunder in the distance

hollow yoke
#

fun fact
theres evidence in the code zeekerss originally was going to implement a system where more players = more weather on moons

queen shadow
#

With how weather2weather weights can work atm, you could reasonably have a system where a drizzle eventually develops into a whole monsoon over the course of multiple days

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or vice versa as it lowers in intensity

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Mechanics wise i have a pretty decent idea of how i could implement it with current system in registry/tweaks, but it would be a lot of effort

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(essentially every single weather would be "silently progressing" - throughout the day it either chooses "increasing" or "decreasing", which then determines weights for next time. This could allow a storm to build up and die down dynamically at random.)

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The more im thinking about this the more i want to actually make it...

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bruh

harsh flicker
#

Which combined with scrap multipliers proportional to the danger makes it quite fun
People tend to always go for whatever weather they can for the scrap multipliers, and the rest of the pack balance like moon prices accounts for it

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Weather is always like a risk-reward thing that is somewhat predictable but still random in its changes

rare sun
#

i wanted to ask if there was a plan to add transitions between weather, i love the weather>weather but its a bit immersion breaking to have it change out of nowhere like flipping a switch

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its just a minor thing but would be cool

queen shadow
drowsy willow
queen shadow
#

do also consider the hail mister funny weather man

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i saw that

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👁️

queen ingot
#

cant hide from the lurkers

drowsy willow
#

missclick

queen shadow
#

lol

rare sun
drowsy willow
drowsy willow
#

which is something i'm not skilled enough to do

rare sun
#

yeah i thought it wouldnt be that easy

drowsy willow
#

and it's on my to-do list for a year at this point

rare sun
#

but not even a fade in and out transition?

queen shadow
#

some other random ideas that came to mind;

  • Wind Gusts / Tempest, occasional bursts of wind that push you around kinda like Blizzard in lethal elements but without the snow
  • Proper Dust Storms that severely impair visibility, maybe also reduce stamina or make other sounds less loud due to the sheer noise
drowsy willow
#

skyboxes are using bool toggles

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meaning: during the start of eclipsed weather its code switches eclipse to true

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and it happens instantly

queen shadow
#

you come back reinvigorated with ideas

drowsy willow
#

because that phase should only happen before ship doors open during landing

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so the change is never visible to the player

rare sun
#

oooh i see

drowsy willow
#

i've unfortunately decided to "improve" on that idea

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and it's something i don't have the expertise to fix

slow maple
drowsy willow
#

i think i've tried doing those transitions already

#

let me find it

rare sun
#

or the change may be minimum

slow maple
#

I've gotten really thin fog before in vanilla

rare sun
#

i just know that you cant even see the floor when landing on a foggy moon

queen shadow
#

Vanilla fog is static from what i know/recall

rare sun
#

but never noticed different fog variations

drowsy willow
rare sun
drowsy willow
#

good luck playing that shit with some kind of epilepsy/visual triggers

rare sun
#

epileptic but insane

queen shadow
#

yeaaa

drowsy willow
#

there are variables to influence it's "density"

#

but that's it

#

always the same

#

and the fog object doesn't even stretch to the whole map!!!!!

rare sun
#

im a gd player so that wouldnt affect me XD but i can see people suffering with it

queen shadow
#

but yeah morbius ive given you some ideas now, be it for weathertweaks or mrovweathers, so have at it lol (at your own discretion)

drowsy willow
#

i feel better completely abandoning this idea then getting even one person slightly hurt by it

#

honestly

rare sun
#

sad that it isnt an easy implementation

queen shadow
#

We've grown used to the sudden transition as being an LC quirk

slow maple
rare sun
#

"kid dies of seizure after playing best mod ever made Weather Tweaks" we do not want to see that on the news

slow maple
#

fog is either thin or thick and that's decided by density, no?

drowsy willow
# drowsy willow

@raw bloom i'm gonna CC you here since you've asked a few times about transitions for weathers

slow maple
#

it's just for whatever reason not synced properly? from what I recall? i could be wrong

drowsy willow
queen shadow
drowsy willow
#

i would not want to get someone seriously injured

drowsy willow
#

let me be

queen shadow
#

yeah okay

rare sun
#

it would be cool to have a bigger visibility range on foggy, a variation like that would be cool

drowsy willow
queen shadow
#

Im still actually considering the weather intensity variants mod idea

#

like

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i like getting immersed

drowsy willow
#

that wouldn't be that hard to implement honestly

queen shadow
#

hell i consider myself a Cloudy weather enjoyer

drowsy willow
#

just testing to hit those variables just right would be time-consuming

queen shadow
#

i wouldnt mind some extra alternatives that are functionally like Clear weather but with different ambience

gray kayak
#

im gonna crowd control you here

drowsy willow
rare sun
#
  • Earthquakes: the ground (and player camera) shakes from time to time making you drop your items and debri may fall off of buildings damaging you, trees could also fall and hurt you
#

i just come up with this idea

#

xd

queen shadow
#

baller

drowsy willow
#

problem solved

gray kayak
#

get content creatored

queen shadow
#

guys is this foreshadowing

rare sun
queen shadow
#

Exactly!

gray kayak
#

When do we get tsunami

queen shadow
#

magnetic storm (ig its kinda the same as a solar flare honestly)

rare sun
# drowsy willow 🤭

i live on a very high seismic activity so i always had the thought of an earthquake "weather" for LC

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tho now that i think of it maybe it would be better as an event like meteor shower

queen shadow
#

I was actually curious

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is there a way to like do a custom system like the one meteor showers use

queen shadow
#

because some progressing weather transitions, if done with e.g. that kind of EAS warning, would work even if they were jarring

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(in general i think there should be more events that have those kinds of announcements. Obviously shouldnt be too frequent or it gets annoying/obnoxious, but meteor showers are so ridiculously rare)

rare sun
#

earthquakes, maybe the tsunami too

#

the heavy dust clouds you mentioned before

queen shadow
#

Ever since zeekerss added it, i was thinking how a short term eclipse would work way better like that.

#

A real life solar eclipse doesnt last an entire day either, even on other planets.

rare sun
#

some of them could work better as an event than a weather itself

queen shadow
rare sun
#

😮

queen shadow
#

e.g. halfway during the day you get a thing warning you for it, and when it happens it actually gets properly dark

#

and stuff spawns on surface for like an hour or two, then it gets brighter again as the eclipse passes. The enemies stay though.

rare sun
queen shadow
#

dude that would be actually scary

queen shadow
rare sun
#

me with ship door when that happens

queen shadow
#

Well ya got your ideas now

#

imma commit the heinous act of falling unconscious on a horizontal surface covered in soft material

rare sun
#

i just come up with the best idea ever, imagine if there was a weather that made the water on a moon start to rise more and more, making it harder to traverse as the day goes

#

🔥

queen shadow
queen shadow
#

-# if its not... uh, thats what flooded does. It raises the water level as the day goes on (or on adamance, lowers it as the day goes on)

rare sun
queen shadow
#

such a real idea

rare sun
queen shadow
#

carbon copy

rare sun
#

subtitles

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creator contest

queen shadow
#

basically, addressing the message to you aswell

raw bloom
rare sun
#

that sounds ancient

queen shadow
raw bloom
#

Except for the epileptic flashing

rare sun
queen shadow
#

british broadcast channel

#

nothing wrong with that, eh

raw bloom
#

No…

queen shadow
#

anyhow gn yall

rare sun
#

goodmorning

#

what time is it for you?

#

i love asking that question

#

i would love a super eclipse weather/variation, it works the same as eclipsed but doubles the spawn of monsters and the moon takes a purpleish color

#

i dont think that has to be that hard to make

drowsy willow
#

i have used an ancient term non-ironically

#

my youth days are over

gray kayak
rare sun
#

you have now achieved unc status

queen ingot
drowsy willow
#

😳

rare sun
#

im putting the scrap value multiplier at 10x tho

drowsy willow
#

scrap multiplier = spawn multiplier

#

good luck 🫡

rare sun
slow maple
wild swift
drowsy willow
#

that's a genius idea

#

holy shit

hollow yoke
#

add granny

loud heart
#

The lights

wild swift
#

Good question, about a week or two probably? Releasing it under ScienceBirdTweaks so depends on other stuff from the update being ready to ship

loud heart
#

Sweet

sage thorn
#

yeah, we're mostly onto testing and bugfixing now, so hopefully within the week 🤞

queen shadow
#

and at that point i had been up for about 19 ish hours so i was absolutely tired

rare sun
queen shadow
#

-# I also had my driving license exam that day, which i thankfully passed...

rare sun
rare sun
#

i just got a clear weather but when i went it was eclipsed :c

#

and i didnt see a ?

#

maybe im blind but ye

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im 80% it didnt say "clear?", bc when the doors open it looked clear but when the ship landed it changed to eclipsed

rare sun
sage thorn
#

yeah I've had that happen on occasion as well, seems pretty hard to reproduce for me at least

rare sun
#

what is this what

viral tree
ember island
#

I had a run recently where every single day was eclipsed

#

reloading the save fixed it and now that i disabled unknown/uncertain it didnt happen again, but i also was not able to reproduce the bug before so idk

ember island
#

progressing weather is also bugged

drowsy willow
rare sun
drowsy willow
ember island
#

i disabled progressing weather now

#

will see if it happens again

drowsy willow
#

the "all eclipsed" bug?

#

do you have a log from that session?

viral tree