and if you're using LethalLib - switch
#Weather Registry / Weather Tweaks / mrov
arctic grotto
and if you're using LethalLib - switch
👆
stark scaffold
@drowsy willow Is there anyway to disable the message that says, switching weather from [weather] to [weather]
little sedge
lethallib *vomits*
little sedge
<@231002429406183424> Is there anyway to disable the message that says, switchin...
oh that'd be nice
abstract pivot
lethallib \*vomits*
?
little sedge
my only experience with it was kind of sour and it was because i was forking something that was already dependent on it
the entire time i was just wishing i had done things manually because its kind of limited in control
abstract pivot
well there really isnt much in lethallib past the actual registration and patching things ingame to make stuff exist
little sedge
i had weird issues with setting item properties but i dont remember what exactly
abstract pivot
that... might just be a you issue lol
little sedge
i think i ended up having to do something manually in a postfix
raw bloom
lethallib \*vomits*
Whus wrong with LL?
little sedge
i just dont like it
nothings wrong with it rlly
i usually just dont like using apis for anything unless it offers something to the table other than making the process easier
and lethallib just made my life harder
abstract pivot
funnily enough i've still had better weather experience in lethallib than registry, i STILL get reports about custom weather disabling not working 😭, but i appreciate mrov's efforts
abstract pivot
and lethallib just made my life harder
if its anything item related past just registering the item via code, you were probably too inexperienced with stuff to tell the difference of whether it was LL or a general issue
little sedge
maybe
but it just kinda frustrated me because i had no reason to be using it in the first place other than consistency
lol
abstract pivot
you use LLL for items now?
little sedge
i would going forward prolly
i havent done any item stuff again
idk i havent looked into how it works on LLL's side
abstract pivot
huh
little sedge
i would admittedly probably do the whole process manually
abstract pivot
double huh
little sedge
because that is how i like to do things
abstract pivot
well, you're not the first to say/want that 🙃
little sedge
double admittedly
i only used the item api stuff in lethallib
it might have other cooler stuff
that i havent looked into much
abstract pivot
i do love not knowing whether an item is a vanilla item because someone manually added them into the game and i cant check LL or LLL if its their item
little sedge
pay attention to the mods you download lol ?
abstract pivot
i meant as a modder
abstract pivot
i cant just assume zeekerss will never update the item list to add more items
manic cobalt
@little sedge do you know how item saving works in lc
abstract pivot
you can pretend item id's dont exist for the most part
abstract pivot
yuh
little sedge
icic
abstract pivot
there's only a couple that are special and have em, like shovel and knife i believe
manic cobalt
so if that list is in a different order compared to last time you played that save
the items change
manic cobalt
it does
little sedge
ok
manic cobalt
dont manually make items 😄
manic cobalt
LLL has a whole system that awards points based of comparing info and all this other shit
it's hell
little sedge
?
manic cobalt
instead of just saving index # LLL saves the entire list of itemname, modname and author name
gritty lily
I need to figure out how to use LLL to make scrap my mod isnt just gonna make itself
😔
manic cobalt
then if any items between the new list and the old saved one don't match, it scans the list to see if the item still exists
little sedge
are there like
manic cobalt
based on comparing pieces of data
little sedge
extendeditems or some shit
manic cobalt
yes
wicked latch
For some time.
gritty lily
I need to figure out how to use LLL to make scrap my mod isnt just gonna make it...
I mean it might if I will it into existence hard enough
trust
abstract pivot
it might have other cooler stuff
until maybe one day LLL has it all, i use it for ship upgrades, decors, inside hazards (outside apparently dont work but i never verified that), items, shop items and enemies and also used it for weatehrs at some point until mrov wanted me to switch
i still use and depend on LLL for a few misc functions that i dont wanna think about, the registeration would just be all over the place if i used both at once
abstract pivot
i depend on 4 right now
gritty lily
get open lib, solid lib, test account lib, lethal lib, LLL, weather reg
I forgot the others
abstract pivot
LL, LLL, WR, PFL
little sedge
pfl?
abstract pivot
pathfindinglib
abstract pivot
oh and inpututils
little sedge
oh inpututils is nice
abstract pivot
it lets me safely write some async pathfinding, the code just used to be in coderebirth but to avoid duplicating a bunch of patch code that you're not supposed to duplicate zaggy just put it into a lib
gritty lily
LL, LLL, WR, PFL
idk sounds like you need solid lib open lib and test account lib
personally
little sedge
and JLL
gray kayak
where does MirageCore and EnemySkinRegistry fall
abstract pivot
funnily enough solid lib is just old coderebirth code
test account lib is probably coderebirth code copy pasted too
gritty lily
what does that mean
little sedge
make code rebirth dependent on moresuits for april fools
abstract pivot
it means xugpt gets used a lot
abstract pivot
make code rebirth dependent on moresuits for april fools
i deprecate on april fools and leave it that way, 
little sedge
based?
drowsy willow
funnily enough i've still had better weather experience in lethallib than regist...
disabling in what sense? 🥺
abstract pivot
disabling in what sense? 🥺
i wish i knew, i just know a few people have been a bit mad about it not disabling because they dont like meteor shower lol, couldnt get more out of how they disabled it though
drowsy willow
<@231002429406183424> Is there anyway to disable the message that says, switchin...
not yet
but ill add that in next release
severe pelican
Huh, idk I've had meteor shower disabled and it always worked for me
Maybe cause I did so pretty early on
terse silo
thorny salmon
I found something fun
Rain inside the facility
again
The dungeon was demonmae's ghotic monastery
if think there was an error in the console saying JLLcompat something
latent sleet
if think there was an error in the console saying JLLcompat something
You need to send the logs
thorny salmon
yes thanks xu
harsh flicker
The dungeon was demonmae's ghotic monastery
Like, everywhere, or only in those open rooms with the skylight
?
drowsy willow
I found something fun
Rain inside the facility
what moon was this on?
thorny salmon
everywhere
raw bloom
0194a4b7-d0e1-7ff8-f93c-862b9c692874
Why does this error pop up when I reset on Retinue?
harsh flicker
disabling in what sense? 🥺
drowsy willow
This always reminds me of you
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/33571538458...
ahahhahaha what is that
harsh flicker
New mrov scrap idea mayb
harsh flicker
As a bonus, always spawns in anytime it detects an error from weatherreg
drowsy willow
As a bonus, always spawns in anytime it detects an error from weatherreg
new flooded variant
harsh flicker
plays the music and vibrates around ofc
harsh flicker
new flooded variant
Ohh?
drowsy willow
from the amount of Registry errors 🤭
harsh flicker
Swap sun for giant 🥺 in the sky
lilac rivet
blackout + meteor shower is fire
severe pelican
Blackout seems like a great way to make any weather much more dramatic
Me likey
Kinda sucks not being able to see inside without a flashlight tho lol
slow maple
blackout + meteor shower is fire
it looks like old meteor shower lol
hollow cargo
Update : Cleared cache and deleted configs then reinstall weather tweaks and lethal elements beta fixed it
drowsy willow
alrighty, thanks for the follow-up 😅
slow maple
everyone tell mrov to eat breakfast
abstract pivot
no
drowsy willow
everyone tell mrov to eat breakfast
I ate breakfast
severe pelican
I ate breakfast
This is so peak
steady marten
lilac rivet
I ate breakfast
gritty lily
bros the tweaker
severe pelican
lilac rivet
i stole mrov's breakfast
uneven carbon
Yo what can i do against this error?
I didnt copy my whole log.
Also my friends are having massive fps issues with this mod :(
drowsy willow
Yo what can i do against this error?
I didnt copy my whole log.
Also my frien...
what is WeatherGains?
you could remove that mod since Registry does the same thing
as for the lags: I'd need more details - is it constant/on specific weather/moon/interior?
uneven carbon
as for the lags: I'd need more details - is it constant/on specific weather/moon...
i gotta ask them
uneven carbon
what is `WeatherGains`?
its a mod thhat is like weathher multiplier
obsidian schooner
its a mod thhat is like weathher multiplier
Weather Registry already adds a WeatherMultiplier for scrap 
uneven carbon
my keyboard is double typing
uneven carbon
Weather Registry already adds a WeatherMultiplier for scrap <:concern:1195990025...
ah xD
My friends says: consistently and everywhere
for the fps problem
dense nymph
So somehow I had a goof in my config, I'm guessing since I had poked around in there, I had copy pasted or dragged some text but the point is:
Rainy weather should have been by default (I did not try to change this):
WeatherToWeather weights = None@100; Rainy@60; Stormy@40; Flooded@30; Foggy@50; Eclipsed@20;
But I ended up with:
WeatherToWeather weights = None@100; Rainy@60; Stormy@40; Flooded@30; 40; Flooded@30; Foggy@50; Eclipsed@20;Foggy@50; Eclpsed@20;
This causes the terminal to stop working. I think specifically because flooded twice, but it could be the 40. Anyways the point is an error catch might be a good idea, even if this I'm sure was my fault. Though it is very edge case, and might not be worth the effort, but now you know that can be an issue.
drowsy willow
So somehow I had a goof in my config, I'm guessing since I had poked around in t...
hmmm, i thought i had something catching those types of errors - I'll check that later, thanks for the find!
shy remnant
hello, i got this error when routing to assurance, what's happening?
drowsy willow
hello, i got this error when routing to assurance, what's happening?
hey, that shouldn't happen - what's your modpack code?
and can you reproduce it consistently?
shy remnant
I'll try to see if it's consistently happening
shy remnant
hey, that shouldn't happen - what's your modpack code?
Also, I did my modpack manually sadly, I don't use a mod launcher
Sorry it might be inconvenient
shy remnant
it seems to be happening semi-consistently
shy remnant
what are your steps to reproduce that?
I simply just go to assurance, start the moon, and then it happens
The seed and moon loads, but the doors won't open
And so I'm just
Stuck inside the ship
Unable to get out
(Didn't test with an inverse teleporter though)
drowsy willow
that is wild
ancient depot
@drowsy willow I have a bug to report
Moons with hyphenated names like Asteroid-13 and Fission-C seem to not work when registered under the blacklist for weathers and the hyphened part of the name gets deleted from the config 🤔
drowsy willow
i'm pretty sure it's intentional - it should either work as fissionc or fission
ancient depot
i'm pretty sure it's intentional - it should either work as `fissionc` or `fissi...
Yeah but it doesn't
Asteroid13 also doesn't work
drowsy willow
hmmmmmmm
ancient depot
Yeah we got Snowfall on Fission despite it being in the blacklist and it was awful cus you can die to acid you can't see
lol
drowsy willow
lmao
ancient depot
Yeah, hopefully you might have an idea for fixing it cus I know it's not intended XD
drowsy willow
hmmm fuck
drowsy willow
Yeah but it doesn't
those names (case-insensitive) will resolve to fission-c
i have honestly no idea why it didn't work for you
😥
ancient depot
i have honestly no idea why it didn't work for you
So wait they have to be lowercase to register?
Interesting
drowsy willow
they don't
those are the names on my end
whatever you put into the config it gets lowercase-d
abstract pivot
They have to be uppercase, do it how central config does it 
drowsy willow
They have to be uppercase, do it how central config does it <a:nod:1054618766450...
lmao
that's an amazing idea
make it random-case and blame users
abstract pivot
ancient depot
They have to be uppercase, do it how central config does it <a:nod:1054618766450...
Central Config is such an abomination
abstract pivot
Also just take a modpack code and test it
All you'd be checking is the config value anyway
drowsy willow
i shall check then
abstract pivot
No point doing ur own testing if you get me
ancient depot
i shall check then
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drowsy willow
i mean - those will be the same values in registry
ancient depot
drowsy willow
but i'll debug that on the profile
drowsy willow
Moons with hyphenated names like Asteroid-13 and Fission-C seem to not work when...
which weathers are supposed to be disabled on those two moons?
ancient depot
which weathers are supposed to be disabled on those two moons?
Snowfall and Blizzard
ancient depot
Weird, well we definitely got them
drowsy willow
that's from your log
ancient depot
🤔
drowsy willow
lol it's weird
ancient depot
I will say I fixed Asteroid14's name cus it was renamed to Hyve, and I changed Fission to FissionC but Asteroid13 wasn't changed at all
drowsy willow
i'll fix that because that is definitely not intended to happen lol
so asteroid13 will work
lol
ancient depot
Yeah
Glad Wesley changed the name of Asteroid14 to Hyve so I can just change the name to Asteroid
ancient depot
Noice
drowsy willow
i'll see if i can fix anything else today
cause i've been delaying working on weather stuff for 2 weeks
and it felt good 🤭
tame briar
Just to be clear, the default value here is for vanilla, right?
ancient depot
Just to be clear, the default value here is for vanilla, right?
Yes
gray kayak
Other than that vanilla doesn't use weights
raw bloom
Plz fix this bug with WeatherTweaks
Makes savescumming impossible since the game softlocks you in the ship (Aka the door never opens)
drowsy willow
what makes your logs so long wtf
raw bloom
Log levels
drowsy willow
I'm gonna check what's happening when I'm back home
raw bloom
The error should around the very end methinks
drowsy willow
Plz fix this bug with WeatherTweaks
could you send me the modpack code for it?
i have no clue how that is happening tbh
drowsy willow
@raw bloom 🥺
drowsy willow
WeatherRegistry 0.4.0
- added
WeatherMatcherandLevelMatcher(not fully implemented yet!) - changed
WeatherSyncto allow syncing multiple weather effects (thanks, @abstract pivot !) - fixed an issue with WeatherRegistry disabling JWeatherOverrides (thanks, @pine thunder !)
- fixed an issue with Orbits compatibility patch (thanks, @lilac jolt !)
drowsy willow
okie!
raw bloom
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mystic oxide
When landing on gloom
The ship door didn't open for me so I was stuck in the ship
downgrading fixed the issue
ancient depot
downgrading fixed the issue
Disabling WeatherTweaks will likely fix it for now as well
Which is what I would recommend since the update for WR fixes broken compat with JLL
real hemlock
updating to 0.4 causes coderebirth, lethalelements and mrovweathers to not load at all
ancient depot
updating to 0.4 causes coderebirth, lethalelements and mrovweathers to not load ...
Really? I didn't see any errors
real hemlock
something along the lines of "missing dependency weather registry" idk it's odd
manic cobalt
do you have weather registry
real hemlock
yeah
manic cobalt
are you sure
real hemlock
it'd be pretty hard to update a mod that's not in my modpack
everything works fine when i downgrade to 0.3.16
manic cobalt
you'd need to post full log
manic cobalt
very weird
wicked latch
[01:43:56.9604707] [Debug : BepInEx] Skipping loading C:\Users\blahblah\lethal-company\profiles\Disposability Beta\BepInEx\plugins\mrov-WeatherRegistry\WeatherRegistry.dll because it's not a valid .NET assembly. Full error: Format of the executable (.exe) or library (.dll) is invalid. Hahaha
real hemlock
idk what any of that means y'all 🔥
manic cobalt
mirage is cooked in that log too
wicked latch
So it could probably got corrupted during download.
manic cobalt
i'd wager maybe it's somehow corrupted download ye
would have to clear the pack and wherever your mod manager caches downloads
real hemlock
clear the pack as in remove everything?
wicked latch
As in clear anything that might have a cached version of the corrupted file.
gray kayak
Can corroborate with it probably being a faulty download
Not getting said issue on my end
wicked latch
There are couple of logs here and there that have a couple of invalid assembly instances and people seemed to not care and let it run, lol.
real hemlock
I know nothing about anything i just download mods and run the game
wicked latch
Then I guess download again til you stop having that log, lol.
real hemlock
thanks
made a new profile, same exact issue i'm just gonna downgrade cause i have no idea how to fix it otherwise
wicked latch
ancient depot
<:Hmm:803387883720933396>
It seems like the latest WR also stops one of Bozoros' dll's from loading
wicked latch
What
ancient depot
wicked latch
Okay, it fails the patching.
ancient depot
Ye
wicked latch
Just saying it stops the dlls from loading makes it seem targetted, lol.
real hemlock
mirage is cooked in that log too
found this while looking for people with the same problem so seems it's fine then?
real hemlock
if what you said was true wouldn't making a new profile have to fix the issue there
you gotta excuse me if I sound dumb I have no idea how any of this works lol
wicked latch
if what you said was true wouldn't making a new profile have to fix the issue th...
Maybe, maybe not.
I would do a manual download and see if it is infact the mod that is the issue.
daring pivot
Not quite, but it does make weather-related stuff not work
All the other stuff I said there does work, but I still gotta update the reference to WeatherEffectData.ApplyWeatherEffects()
daring pivot
Just saying it stops the dlls from loading makes it seem targetted, lol.
Also I was referring to the error itself making the .dll stop loading, but I forgot I had it in a try catch, so at least it errors out after patching other stuff 
drowsy willow
is it broken for anyone else?
abstract pivot
i've seen it broken for a couple of my friends
drowsy willow
FUCK
ornate cosmos
oh god, is bozoros enabling weather separate from the weather API as well? gonna have to add it to the list of mods to check whenever weathers are ready to behave like vanilla for OpenBodyCams per camera weather
still holding off on improving that feature until the weathers stop existing in the menu but I was hoping to only have to make compat with weather registry
daring pivot
oh god, is bozoros enabling weather separate from the weather API as well? gonna...
Oh not really
I have a bunch of objects that enable/disable + an event that's invoked depending on specific weathers
Pretty similar to the JLL weather stuff I believe
ornate cosmos
oh huh, I see
are the global things? or do you have some that follow the player?
the ones that I'm really concerned with are the ones that follow the player
or disable/enable based on whether the player is inside or outside
daring pivot
Just global
daring pivot
I'll keep that in mind in case I get the idea of an effect following the player around though lol
drowsy willow
i'm finally awake, i'm gonna fix all of that stuff ASAP
i'm so so sorry for that
the mrov release strikes again 😭
ornate cosmos
I'll keep that in mind in case I get the idea of an effect following the player ...
yeah stuff like that ideally is an index in the weathers array and has effectObject as the thing that follows the player, since I mimic the vanilla logic in a clone to make things appear on the body cam
daring pivot
Oh I do turn off some vanilla weather effects though
Or at least I did during Bozoros' snowy theme
ornate cosmos
do you do it in a way that I can't be aware of?
daring pivot
Turned rainy into snowy, technically
drowsy willow
😳
ornate cosmos
if you're setting the current weather enum or telling weather registry about it it's probably fine
drowsy willow
how are you achieving that?
daring pivot
Oh no, not actually changing it into snowy
I just mean I turned off the rain particle container and had a separate particle system for snow lol
drowsy willow
oh, just visually changing rainy?
daring pivot
Made sure to toggle it back on when leaving though 💀
ornate cosmos
that's exactly what you shouldn't do afaik
drowsy willow
are you using an override for that (in JLL or in Registry)?
daring pivot
Yeah probably not ideal
ornate cosmos
is your particle system a child of the rainy one?
still not ideal if so because I can't know that it's been created, but still at least that will disable the snow when the player goes inside
daring pivot
It's not currently present on the map anymore but it was just a particle system covering the whole map
ornate cosmos
oh god
daring pivot
are you using an override for that (in JLL or in Registry)?
Neither 
drowsy willow
ornate cosmos
the poor physics system
drowsy willow
Neither <:beevil:1174730104249798787>
could you? 🥺
ornate cosmos
as long as it's a supported feature in weather registry or jll and those features work like vanilla weathers I should in theory be able to support them fairly easily
daring pivot
the poor physics system
Yeah it was pretty rough for performance actually, I've made the confetti particles during Eclipsed a lot less intense than what they used to be (which also cover the map in a similar way)
ornate cosmos
although I haven't looked at JLL to see how it does it, I may be in for a fun time with that
daring pivot
*could you?* 🥺
I'll keep it in mind for future stuff 💀, turning rainy into "snowy" like that was just for the Winter theme
drowsy willow
i know for sure that JLL has something to center the effect on player
let me find it rq
ornate cosmos
uh oh
it has something for that
as in it is implemented its own way?
I'm scared
daring pivot
Thatch
drowsy willow
😥
daring pivot
https://github.com/JacobG55/JLL/blob/main/Components/AttatchToObject.cs
Oh this might just be for regular objects, not sure why it would be used instead of parent/position/rotation constraints though
ornate cosmos
the method is fine
drowsy willow
to quote nikki: "I figured out, Jacob has a script for keeping it centered on the player"
i know less that y'all about editor stuff
ornate cosmos
but I have to add soft compat for this and make my own component to mimic that behavior for any target if I want that to look right on a body cam
pain
drowsy willow
but I have to add soft compat for this and make my own component to mimic that b...
😣
ornate cosmos
might just scrap the weather feature at this point, it seems like too much of a maintenance burden
it's a shame but I really don't want to have to reimplement every mod's bespoke weather system
drowsy willow
that's completely fair
daring pivot
By weather feature you mean displaying weather effects on the bodycam, right?
ornate cosmos
well maybe saying scrap is extreme, but we least I don't intend on supporting systems that duplicate vanilla functionality instead of using the vanilla system
if weathers in registry work like vanilla code and stop existing in menu I can at least add a whitelist
ornate cosmos
By weather feature you mean displaying weather effects on the bodycam, right?
yeah
the ones that move and toggle based on the local players position
daring pivot
Yeah would really depend on how the weather is being handled
ornate cosmos
also worth noting that JLL's component above doesn't work for spectated players
daring pivot
I haven't seen what Blackout weather looks like on the bodycam actually, I'm curious now lol
ornate cosmos
blackout should be fine, I wouldn't expect it to need to follow the player
there are global effects and local ones in vanilla
drowsy willow
blackout only has global effect
drowsy willow
Thought it could be a fog type effect following the player
that was an idea to prevent the custom pass that Zeekers uses to show outlines of things behind the lights
but i gave up on that lol
WeatherTweaks 1.0.2
- fixed the mod breaking with WeatherRegistry
v0.4.0(thanks, @daring pivot !)
daring pivot
I must now figure out how to handle weather changing with how I've currently got it 💀
drowsy willow
the overrides?
daring pivot
Yeah I can probably just run them but reversed to "undo" them, and then run the normal one
daring pivot
I probably should just add WeatherRegistry as a proper dependency instead of working around it 💀
Although the stuff I'm doing isn't like a full on weather replacement though, at most it's changing sky volume to a different one
Issue is fireworks show mainly, which does depend on weather lol
drowsy willow
I probably _should_ just add WeatherRegistry as a proper dependency instead of w...
mayyyyyybe you should 🤭
daring pivot
But yeah it's stuff like this
The fake "Rainy" from the winter theme was one that specifically disabled a vanilla thing (not shown there)
I was thinking of something dumb for Flooded too, having the two water fountains be the only source of water lmao
Just clear sky, absolutely no rain, but flooding nonetheless due to those 💀
Will probably scrap that though
daring pivot
mayyyyyybe you should 🤭
Oh also I'm doing this for Blackout btw, I don't think I specifically mentioned it in here but the Ferris wheel doesn't spin at all lol
Atmosphere's great
daring pivot
Makes that fire exit even more inconvenient lmao
real hemlock
I would do a manual download and see if it is infact the mod that is the issue.
this fixed it, thanks!
drowsy willow
When landing on gloom
this should be fixed now
wicked latch
You're still cursed with WeatherTweaks, I see.
drowsy willow
yeah
this time it's because i changed parameters in the function tweaks uses and didn't fully test that
not because its existence is cursed
thank god
wicked latch
Well, I made another LGU release with new stuff.
Sooner or later, I will see reports about it.
drowsy willow
the circle of life 🤭
drowsy willow
``0194e7af-905a-66a1-5985-366a9b36c727``
i cannot replicate your issue 😳
this is weird
raw bloom
You have to land on a moon that has a WeatherTweaks weather and restart the lobby
In that instance, it was None > Foggy on Titan
IIrc
raw bloom
Idk then
drowsy willow
that is really weird 😭
wicked latch
Have you tried disconnecting?
I'm seeing a couple of errors from LLL when disconnecting, lol.
Usually happens when you have another guy with ya.
drowsy willow
oh maybe the lan version makes this work
let me check for sure
exactly the same
i have no idea how that happened tbh
raw bloom
Maybe whatever this was fixed the issue
drowsy willow
your issue happened before that update tho 😭
I really don't know
If it happens again, let me know
drowsy willow
gray kayak
woah
drowsy willow
new weather 🤭
obsidian schooner
Wat
gray kayak
is the weather really bad headache inducing smear frame motion blur after images type shit
mystic oxide
this should be fixed now
Tried to land on Gorgonzola with another modpack and got the same problem
I don't have weather tweaks in this one
mystic oxide
What I meant is that the same thing happened. The ship door didn't open
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drowsy willow
and that popped up while you tried to land at Gorgonzola?
mystic oxide
Yeah
drowsy willow
alrighty, i'll try to replicate that
drowsy willow
i did replicate that, let me check if my fix works
it's working normally
WeatherRegistry 0.4.1
- fixed an issue with negative index being called in an array (thanks, @mystic oxide !)
stark scaffold
@drowsy willow I think the new update removed the playerlight, once we updated we dont have our own light and its pitch black inside unless there is already a light source
drowsy willow
if it did i'm gonna be really surprised, since there's nothing touching that part of the game
do your logs suggest that happening?
stark scaffold
if it did i'm gonna be really surprised, since there's nothing touching that par...
I dont know, I was playing with a big lobby I will do some real tests later.
raw bloom
<@231002429406183424> I think the new update removed the playerlight, once we up...
I seem to not have this issue myself
stark scaffold
It got fixed after we restarted the game
raw bloom
Holy shit, my first blackout moon
It's been ages since I've installed MrovWeathers, and I haven't gotten blackout since up until this point
daring pivot
Power infrastructure's been reliable 
raw bloom
They're doing their best
gray kayak
the Stormy+Rainy+Flooded+Eclipsed
raw bloom
ancient depot
Ew Sewer
daring pivot
Ewer
raw bloom
Yeah, sewers are often gross
raw bloom
Cool Ig
ancient depot
It's all the parkour sections, it's just crazy with that
raw bloom
That could be improved upon yeah
ancient depot
I might give it another chance whenever Batby updates the interiors but I'm not keeping my hopes up for that to be anytime soon tbh
raw bloom
I'd argue CozyOffice is worse in similar aspects to the Sewer
(The problem is that its gimmick is near identical to the Mineshaft... and I don't like vanilla Mineshaft, lol)
ancient depot
Hmmm what are your issues with Cozy Office?
It was created originally before Mineshaft btw so dunno if I could say it's gimmick is similar
raw bloom
Barely any scrap in the office section of the interior. I'm not good with directions, so it's kind of agonizing having to go into the basement and try to find my way back in an already huge enough interior
ancient depot
Fair
raw bloom
Still better than LC Office though, which is why it made its way into my modpack
ancient depot
I hate Mineshaft just cus it breaks on any moon with more than 2 fire exits imo
Gets annoying to get 15 fps gameplay and know it's cus Mineshaft failed to generate a fire exit
raw bloom
That kind of goes for all interiors
raw bloom
Gets annoying to get 15 fps gameplay and know it's cus Mineshaft failed to gener...
Wtf
I haven't had issues with Mineshaft generating fire exits
raw bloom
Back when I was using Dopadream's Titan, I didn't have issues with it even then
I don't have issues with it either on MapImprovement's Vow
...Yeah. Just what I needed on blackout March.
ancient depot
It might be when a moon has more than 3 then, but even then Mineshaft generates odd with 3 fire exits where you'll have one that can put you face first with a Hazard and stuff
drowsy willow
It got fixed after we restarted the game
happy to hear that!
drowsy willow
It's been ages since I've installed MrovWeathers, and I haven't gotten blackout ...
oh, really? 😅
did you set the weight really low? 🤭
raw bloom
6 weight
They’re in the rare events category in my modpack
Category as in specific weights that are exclusive to certain things
E.g. meteor showers and infestations being increments of three
I’m basically using Blackout as a replacement indoor fog because indoor fog fucking sucks
raw bloom
6 weight
The fact I have WeatherTweaks make Blackout even rarer due to just how many custom weathers are in the weather roster
So uh
I might need to increase it a bit somehow I guess
abstract pivot
if its not 0 weight its not rare enough
raw bloom
-0 🤑
drowsy willow
🤭
ebon current
At some point my modpack broke and now almost every single moon has weather on it every day after the first, even on fresh saves. Anyone have any ideas?
I've tried changing the difficulty multipliers and such to no avail.
Note: I don't think this is an issue with the latest version of tweaks or registry, the modpack was having this issue before I updated them to 0.4.x and 1.0.2
Here's my import code: 0194f20a-30e8-59aa-21cf-6ca8334f8e93
Log
drowsy willow
Is registry working now?
it should be working normally
pulsar monolith
Ok awesome
drowsy willow
let me know if it's not 🥺 🙏
drowsy willow
At some point my modpack broke and now almost every single moon has weather on i...
i'll check that in detail later
ebon current
Thanks! I appreciate it
pulsar monolith
So I don’t think it’s your mod I think bozoros and the pikmoons need an update
daring pivot
So I don’t think it’s your mod I think bozoros and the pikmoons need an update
OH I forgot the Pikmoons .dll also includes my goofy weather script, it's currently unused though so the error shouldn't affect anything there 
Bozoros does need updating though, still working on it
drowsy willow
I've changed the WeatherController function in a way that doesn't require any code changes, I just didn't expect someone targeting a different function 😅
daring pivot
LOL
drowsy willow
well, that's my fault then lol
daring pivot
I've changed the `WeatherController` function in a way that doesn't require any ...
Also why is the parameter for WeatherEffectData.ApplyWeatherEffects() an array now? I thought it'd have every weather it combines or sequences through but I've just had it contain a single value
Or is that a planned future thing maybe
drowsy willow
well
it's an array for people wanting to enable multiple effects at once
tweaks does it DIFFERENTLY because why the fuck would i make it work good 😭
drowsy willow
oh, absolutely
instead of everyone syncing that shit by themselves it's always good to have a centralized way of doing it
MrovWeathers 0.0.4
- fixed an issue where turret lights would be disabled during
Blackout - added foggy weather overrides (moved from
WeatherTweaks)
WeatherTweaks 1.0.3
- moved foggy overrides to MrovWeathers
as always: let me know if it works correctly 😇
drowsy willow
MrovWeathers 0.0.5
- fixed the placeholders not working in the config (thanks, @little sedge !)
raw bloom
You somehow managed to break Foggy.
- The, "Weather will be changing to Foggy", pop-up appears, despite it being on its own.
- When you restart the lobby with Foggy, you get softlocked trying to land. It seems to be the same softlock bug I've been reporting about for a while now, at least judging from the error in the console.
I'm pretty sure this is related to Tweaks, not Registry.
??
Why the fuck does it say Foggy > None now 😭
ebon current
Suggestion for MrovWeathers: Make Cloudy disable your clock when outside (if it doesn't already). I had a run where I went outside when it was cloudy, and my clock didn't work, then another where that didn't happen. Presumably, one of the runs was bugged (or another mod disabled the clock and I wasn't aware of it), but I thought it was cool when I believed it was an intended feature lol
ebon current
ebon current
Thank you 
Its a heavily modified version of https://github.com/yfeng997/markov_chain_visualization?tab=readme-ov-file
I'll get it forked and uploaded at some point so anyone can play with it, just would rather iron out the bugs first
and it'd be nice to make the importer actually use the weatherregistry config file
latent sleet
i love this
abstract pivot
That does look amazing
Question is, does weather registry actually work with its own intended system 
stark scaffold
What is this
drowsy willow
Question is, does weather registry actually work with its own intended system <a...
it does 😭
ebon current
What is this
It's a markov chain visualizer. A markov chain is a system where each node has a set chance to go to each other node. You can use it to imitate things like weather, where if it's cloudy it will be more likely to rain the next day, where a sunny day may not be likely to rain the next day
The way Weather Registry / Tweaks gives each weather a weight to transition between weather systems is effectively a markov chain, so I used an existing visualizer to view my configs for WeatherTweaks. I had to make a ton of changes to the code to make it actually useable.
Here's an example of a very simple markov chain
The visualizer also doubles as a simulator, so if you run it for a while you can get a sense of how often each whether will appear in a given run (assuming every planet can get every weather, which isn't true obviously). Using it, I discovered I'd set ToxicSmog to be far more common than I thought, as it was appearing about as much as Stormy when I thought I tweaked it to be way less common
The visualizer also moves nodes around by weight, you can see that None, Cloudy, and Rainy all drift to the center pretty quickly (usually you have to jiggle the simulation a couple times for a close-to-perfect graph, it just happened to get it first-try in the video above)
prisma trout
i keep getting this issue
then the ship refuses to land
i recently changed my weather weight configs but
not sure why that would break the game like this
drowsy willow
hmmmm
that's new
what's your modpack code?
and what moon are you trying to land on?
prisma trout
0194ffc6-0406-b8cb-d26c-e3a84d334535
experimentation
idk if iv just fucked my registry configs or smth
prisma trout
also got this from trying to take off from offense
didnt let me spawn back in
after the ship automatically took back off and went into orbit
and for some reason
despite having celestial tint on
ever since I updated registry and mrov weather
it stopped working
strange
obsidian schooner
0194ffc6-0406-b8cb-d26c-e3a84d334535
Billboard is the issue
try disabling it and try landing
idk why, but that mod affects a LOT of other mods
obsidian schooner
Billboard is the issue
I mean, it may not be the problem, but there have already been reports where the bug was that mod, so it already has some questionable reputation.
prisma trout
Billboard is the issue
iv had this mod on for so long without issue?
why is it suddenly causing issues now
prisma trout
I mean, it may not be the problem, but there have already been reports where the...
its a bug that can be caused by a lot of things, but usually the cause is different each time
prisma trout
try without it
still the same issue
the second i disable registry
everything fixes
weary venture
have you tried disabling lethalelements modded enemy patch?
weary venture
i cant really find the issue
got an error from your modpack that mentioned mirage, lethalthings, and like 3 other mods
dont remember them
would try to help but your modpacks too big for me to try to troubleshoot
prisma trout
got an error from your modpack that mentioned mirage, lethalthings, and like 3 o...
yeah just common errors
they dont mean anything
kinda like gmod lua errors
i think its registry though, or at least something related to it, or somehow iv fucked up its config
because it seems to work just fine without registry installed
upon further testing, it might specifcally be mrov weathers
not registry itself
prisma trout
upon further testing, it might specifcally be mrov weathers
it is mrov weathers
works with just registry
the second i add mrov
it breaks
restive pilot
@drowsy willow
You heard about the issue of other clients in multi not able to see changing weathers?
drowsy willow
You heard about the issue of other clients in multi not able to see changing wea...
the WHAT
restive pilot
the WHAT
Did I say something
But basically it'll say "Weather changing to dust clouds" while I see the normal weather change
drowsy willow
😳
drowsy willow
But basically it'll say "Weather changing to dust clouds" while I see the normal...
is it happening for everyone in the lobby/only host/only clients?
what weather was this on?
restive pilot
what weather was this on?
Any weather
Only Clients
Basically if the weather Changed
They only saw
Dust Clouds
harsh flicker
Dust Clouds
Is this a Dusted moment 
restive pilot
Is this a Dusted moment <:KaguyaStare:1208657571498561586>
Literally smashing my skull into the floor
restive pilot
is it happening for everyone in the lobby/only host/only clients?
Also every client
That wasn't host
nocturne lily
i'm having an issue with transition weathers, specifically the one with both rainy and stormy. sometimes when i land it removes the rain effect but keeps the lightning effects. i got it to repro on sector 0 but it happens on any moon (specifically in the first landing of the game being open)
code: 01950654-0725-6fba-1e4f-0949ee40bfa2
drowsy willow
i'm having an issue with transition weathers, specifically the one with both rai...
hey, thanks for reporting the issue!
I can't reproduce it locally using your modpack code - what steps did you take to make that happen?
drowsy willow
i keep getting this issue
i've dug deeper and found this:
i have no idea how the fuck is that even possible
i think i know:
stark scaffold
i *think* i know:
Hats wrong with that?
drowsy willow
None is listed twice
stark scaffold
Oh
drowsy willow
i'm confirming rn if that's the error
stark scaffold
Also when formatting do I do it like this,
None@100; Cloudy@200
or like this
None@100;Cloudy@200
drowsy willow
both are correct
i prefer the first because it's easier to read
but both are parsed by Registry, so it's a matter of preference
stark scaffold
but both are parsed by Registry, so it's a matter of preference
And does it have to end with a ;
So like
Nons@200; Cloudy@100;
drowsy willow
i'm pretty sure they don't need to end with semicolon
abstract pivot
i'm pretty sure they don't *need* to end with semicolon
How the heck do you separate without a separator
drowsy willow
i split the string on semicolons
if the string ends with ; the last result will be an empty string
so it doesn't matter
drowsy willow
GOD NO
abstract pivot
I was like "how the fuck is he doing that"
abstract pivot
But simplification 🤓👆
drowsy willow
it's not gonna be simpler 🤭
drowsy willow
i've dug deeper and found this:
i've found and fixed the underlying issue
drowsy willow
Any weather
that's really weird, i'll try to find a fix for that today
prisma trout
i *think* i know:
Okay so I did fuck up my configs Ty so much for spotting that 🙏
drowsy willow
Okay so I did fuck up my configs Ty so much for spotting that 🙏
it's gonna be fixed in the next update, thanks for the find 😅
prisma trout
Wahooo‼️
nocturne lily
hey, thanks for reporting the issue!
I can't reproduce it locally using your mo...
To repro on my end I did:
1: open the game
2: start a new save
3: go to the first moon that has Stormy > Rainy
4: land the ship
If it wasn't repro on your end with those steps, idk what would be causing it
drowsy willow
To repro on my end I did:
1: open the game
2: start a new save
3: go to the firs...
oh, i've changed the weather myself 😳
i'll see
drowsy willow
WeatherRegistry 0.4.2
- (hopefully) fixed weather effects not enabling correctly on progressing weathers (thanks, @nocturne lily !)
- fixed weather effects re-enabling themselves in an infinite loop (thanks, @abstract pivot !)
- fixed config resolvers not ignoring duplicate entries (thanks, @prisma trout !)
nocturne lily
# WeatherRegistry 0.4.2
- (hopefully) fixed weather effects not enabling correc...
i don't think it worked
might be a conflict on my end
whole spear
[23:09:21.4536973] [Warning: Unity Log] Couldn't create a Convex Mesh from source mesh "Sphere" within the maximum polygons limit (256). The partial hull will be used. Consider simplifying your mesh.
[23:09:21.4827235] [Warning: Unity Log] WeatherRegistry.ImprovedWeatherEffect must be instantiated using the ScriptableObject.CreateInstance method instead of new ImprovedWeatherEffect.
[23:09:21.4867270] [Warning: Unity Log] WeatherRegistry.Weather must be instantiated using the ScriptableObject.CreateInstance method instead of new Weather.
[23:09:21.7029240] [Warning: Unity Log] WeatherRegistry.ImprovedWeatherEffect must be instantiated using the ScriptableObject.CreateInstance method instead of new ImprovedWeatherEffect.
[23:09:21.7039252] [Warning: Unity Log] WeatherRegistry.Weather must be instantiated using the ScriptableObject.CreateInstance method instead of new Weather.
Not sure if that's important
whole spear
Always good to check
nocturne lily
it's kinda inconsistent
sometimes stormy > rainy works fine and other times it disables rain until you go inside and come back out
prisma trout
Ohhhhh
prisma trout
it's a config called moonsplus
Shit is that the one that’s incompatible with constellations?
prisma trout
Something I have conflicts with the mod
Cause I used to use it
Then it suddenly broke
drowsy willow
it's kinda inconsistent
that's even worse 😭
eager field
Shit is that the one that’s incompatible with constellations?
yeah anything I make should be compatible with eachother. If you run into any issues i'd appreciate a bug report (with logs)
prisma trout
Shall do big mans 🙏🙏
prisma trout
yeah anything I make should be compatible with eachother. If you run into any is...
There is one incompatibility iv been aware of for a few days but iv been hesitant to report it because I think I caused it by fucking with configs too much
Since I couldn’t narrow it down to any mod causing it
In hindsight I probs should have reported it straight away cause then other people coulda helped me narrow it down
eager field
no worries, I mean if it's lethalconstellations there's a lot of room for configs causing errors
feel free to post in my thread about it -> https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1327068908129095700
drowsy willow
i don't think it worked
I think I know why it's happening - I'll confirm that later
the weathers are a menace 😅
eager field
mrov be honest, is vanilla weather more cooked than the terminal?
eager field
Fair enough lol. The combo weathers are fuckin sick tho
drowsy willow
😇
subtle vapor
Two questions:
- Eclipsed **> **Foggy, what this symbol mean
- What are the scrap multipliers for weather like this
wicked latch
Starts on Eclipsed, some time later turns foggy.
Scrap multipliers, @drowsy willow is the expert here.
subtle vapor
Starts on Eclipsed, some time later turns foggy.
Will it be only Foggy or Eclipsed + Foggy and is there any option to customize time when the weather change?
wicked latch
From like
6 months ago.
It would be only foggy.
I don't know if that was changed in the meantime.
Mrov would be the config expert as they're the one creating it.
subtle vapor
okay thx. I'm waiting for his anserw
red stone
Two questions:
1. Eclipsed **> **Foggy, what this symbol mean
2. What are the sc...
eclipsed to foggy
drowsy willow
Two questions:
1. Eclipsed **> **Foggy, what this symbol mean
2. What are the sc...
- Eclipsed>Foggy means weather changing throughout the day: starts Eclipsed, transitions to Foggy
- Default scrap multipliers for the combined/progressing weathers is calculated based on the scrap values set for the weathers included (so in your example it's gonna be calculated based off of
Stormy,RainyandEclipsed
drowsy willow
Will it be only Foggy or Eclipsed + Foggy and is there any option to customize t...
Will it be only Foggy or Eclipsed + Foggy
only foggy
is there any option to customize time when the weather change?
no
prisma trout
for some reason I dont think my weather weights are really working
ill get some proof in a sec
cause i know what i just said is like no help lmao
prisma trout
1. Eclipsed>Foggy means weather changing throughout the day: starts Eclipsed, tr...
what if the scrap value multipliers are set in central config and not registry?
drowsy willow
what if the scrap value multipliers are set in central config and not registry?
first of all, don't
second: i think the CC values will be used
i don't really care about that tho
nocturne lily
second: i *think* the CC values will be used
can confirm
CC will turn off registry's modifiers in config and use its own
drowsy willow
if i may ask: why are you using CC for that
is it better to use?
what's a feature that makes it better than registry
like genuinely 😅
nocturne lily
only reason i can think of is that it's LQ and LLL config combined and made easier to use
drowsy willow
fair enough
nocturne lily
i'm drawing some parallels to apple products lmao
nocturne lily
na
drowsy willow
i can die in peace
nocturne lily
CC feels like an apple product
nocturne lily
yeah its convenient and easy to use but it really doesn't get along with much else
drowsy willow
that's a really good description, ngl
gray kayak
is mrov an android
prisma trout
if i may ask: why are you using CC for that
it just happened to be the one i started using first
abstract pivot
huawei
prisma trout
and
too deep into this modpack to swap everything over
plus it has a lot more configuration options for specific niche things than LQ and LLL
i try to use both since i found registry after CC
but registry is weather specific
so id rather just deal with the issues of both together
rather than having one
CC is a pain if it gets wiped though
like
just now
keen palm
How do i edit the combined weather
prisma trout
half my weather configurations for enemy and scrap configurations just got wiped 
cause i wasnt paying attention
drowsy willow
half my weather configurations for enemy and scrap configurations just got wiped...
😳
like on its own?
prisma trout
nono
i had to temp disable a mod
aka
lethal elements
and ofc i have the setting on in CC
to refresh configs on each launch
to get rid of dead entries
was a mild oversight and I cant roll back now because iv only just noticed
rolling back would undo all the changes I made the last 3 hours
drowsy willow
to get rid of dead entries
yeah, that's why i don't do it in Registry
drowsy willow
it's fucking you over really badly when you disable something 😔
prisma trout
i use registry for weights
nocturne lily
prob why LLL doesn't do it either
prisma trout
since CC doesnt touch weights for whatever reason
at least I dont think
it might do actually
nocturne lily
at least with LLL you can tell what was disabled because it removes the comments in the .cfg
drowsy willow
since CC doesnt touch weights for whatever reason
the technology is not there yet
drowsy willow
at least with LLL you can tell what was disabled because it removes the comments...
that's just how bepinex works: it removes all comments when it loads a config file
nocturne lily
yeah and i honestly appreciate it more than just remove dead entries
prisma trout
yeah no weights
but essentially these configs I had for weathers on lethal elements weathers
drowsy willow
prob why LLL doesn't do it either
i remember when LLL was doing this:
nocturne lily
jesus
prisma trout
more config grinding
drowsy willow
just got wipeddddd
😭
prisma trout
i remember when LLL was doing this:
woah
nocturne lily
i can see why it doesn't anymore
drowsy willow
the thing with the numbering there
it was in a different order for every moon you've changed
nocturne lily
i just noticed it jumped from 1 to 10 😭
prisma trout
for some reason I dont think my weather weights are really working
back on this
i swear first day
drowsy willow
so your configs weren't used when the moon list changed
prisma trout
with weather tweaks rather
i assumed
thats what this meant
may have been wrong
anyways
well that means my weather weights are working fine on the first day
but the next day they go out of whack
keen palm
Is it right for the weather tweaks config to only have enabled weather, default weight and moon weight?
drowsy willow
but the next day they go out of whack
enable this in Registry config and check your logs
keen palm
just checking before editing the weather
drowsy willow
Is it right for the weather tweaks config to only have enabled weather, default ...
that's the default, yeah
prisma trout
enable this in Registry config and check your logs
will do boss
prisma trout
you can enable all options in Tweaks config:
what does this do
okay looking at the full weather list
i might just have
really bad luck
drowsy willow
what does this do
that enables all the weight/scrap/filtering options for all tweaks' weathers
prisma trout
cause overall it seems to be none
prisma trout
that enables all the weight/scrap/filtering options for all tweaks' weathers
oh god no
thats a headache i dont even want to go near
i have limits to modpack madness
im just happy i have a somewhat stable modpack which is coming up to about 300ish mods
drowsy willow
drowsy willow
no logs
prisma trout
but
drowsy willow
😭
wicked latch
drowsy willow
my mistake original gangster
drowsy willow
<:pepepoint:635681108805287936>
👀 💀
prisma trout
i use mrov weathers, elements, cc, tweaks and registry 😝
drowsy willow
do you have this enabled in tweaks config?
and do you have debug logs enabled in bepinex config?
prisma trout
let me go take a gander
prisma trout
do you have this enabled in tweaks config?
defo dont have this enabled
wait
i might do
oh yeah i do
drowsy willow
🥺
prisma trout
*and* do you have debug logs enabled in bepinex config?
i believe so?
yes i do
this right?
i use gale so
its a little different layout wise
prisma trout
would you like a code my good sir
prisma trout
honestly
cause it could just be a gale launcher issue
after migrating over from r2 to gale, maybe the config options iv set didnt reapply for logs?
thats just a guess off the top of my head tho
drowsy willow
oh lord the download speed
prisma trout
another user why i use gale
wayyy faster
mb for taking so long, was changing menu stuff cause i was seeing if resonance emblem was worth using
but it just has insanely poor menu peformance, like 4 - 6 fps
im stuck on an older version of lunxaras menu, cause it seems im the only one who prefers the orange menu scheme
may be a little biased tho
cause i made everything i possibly could orange
subtle vapor
only reason i can think of is that it's LQ and LLL config combined and made easi...
What is LQ?
drowsy willow
267 mods 💀
prisma trout
267 mods 💀
yummmyyyy
subtle vapor
So if I have CC na Weather Registry which weathers will be used?
drowsy willow
So if I have CC na Weather Registry which weathers will be used?
if you have both, CC scrap settings will be used
prisma trout
iv been working on it ever since lethal company got a modding scene