Ship Windows

[jovial peak]

either wall window

not sure about the door

[rigid spindle]

what about just the ship walls

[jovial peak]

no

[rigid spindle]

maybe this has to do with the new ship window feature for monsters to be able to have line of sight through it

[jovial peak]

It is

[sullen solar]

Just to be sure... Can I have your modpack code?

[jovial peak]

what im using in the video is literally just this

default shipwindows config

Giants aren't the only thing that can do it, they're just a lot more apparent because of size and AI(?)

silly puppy methinks

[rigid spindle]

so the game does something like LOS + Collision = Successful Player-Monster Collision?
and thats why giants cant grab u through ship walls even when they're clipping through beause normally they dont have LOS
is that what the game's doing?

[jovial peak]

maybe

[tawdry lion]

it does

and as hard as it may look to reproduce, 2 of my friends died this way last night (from the same giant)

...the second one was kinda dumb to stay at the same place but it happened

[clear prairie]

@sullen solar you may wanna check this, it looks like reproduceable steps were discovered

[tawdry lion]

if needed i can use my enemy to draw linecast visualy to see that it is indeed the windows see through feature and the wall are fine

imma do this when im back

[sullen solar]

He stuck

[sullen solar]

After spawning 50 giants on one spot, I was finally able to reproduce this issue

[rigid spindle]

door stuck

[clear prairie]

What are you using for the HP text btw?

[robust spruce]

At this point test needs to drop a mod list

[jovial peak]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Treyotech/Treys_Health_Text/

[clear prairie]

I wanna say it's that but there's some differences

His is green

there's also a line between HP and the number

[jovial peak]

you can change the color in it's config

and add that line

[clear prairie]

;o

I'mma add it then, it looks nicer and more complete than GI's tbh

[jovial peak]

yeah a lot more free to customize it

also includes removing the "HP" and move where it's positioned I believe?

it's why I asked if there's a mod that has an adjustable weight text position since I thought it'd be cute to remove the "HP", put the weight below the health#, and put the little line between them

[clear prairie]

I wouldn't know what RGB Value I would need to make it be a good green like that

lol

[robust spruce]

Try 57, 255, 20

Should be a nice Acid Green

I had that saved in my notes as acid green, but also this also saved as acid green: 143, 254, 9

So idk if I made a mistake with one and you end up with orange haha

[sullen solar]

Anyone wanna test the collisions?

That version seemed to have fixed it for me, but I'm also the one who can barely reproduce the issue anyway...

[robust spruce]

@jovial peak

He had it consistently I think

[jovial peak]

i'll check in a moment

[sullen solar]

Btw... You need to unlock all windows for testing @jovial peak

[jovial peak]

Yeah I just buy them

It, seems better? but I am still able to get grabbed

weird

I guess the Giant, like, moves like ever so partially further into the ship if it's in chase mode

if it's like, standing still hugging the window it doesn't grab

but as soon as it starts moving fast enough or something it grabs me

[clear prairie]

Lol why do the footsteps sound strange? That's not vanilla or LR what is that

[jovial peak]

vanilla

[clear prairie]

Did vanilla get changed?

[jovial peak]

no

[clear prairie]

🤔

They sound way more flat than I remember

[opal sparrow]

those are indeed the vanilla sounds

[rigid spindle]

maybe you've been playing with LR for so long

[opal sparrow]

are u sure its speed ro just ur closeness to the window?

[jovial peak]

I literally like

don't know

but it seems to only grab me when it's moving and not standing still

so I assume it's like, the momentum or something from moving fast making it get pushed ever so slightly into the ship for it to grab me

[clear prairie]

My only issue I have with LR is they keep adding too many sounds, I had to increase LCMaxSoundsFix to 512 just cus of that stupid update for the footstep audio, it caused me to start having the issue where my sounds got stuck behind the player if it was any lower

[sullen solar]

I adjusted the enemy patch.

If this doesn't prevent you from being grabbed by a giant, then I probably won't be able to fix it, as the giant just phases through the wall

[clear prairie]

LOL I disabled LR as a test

and my game uses 1gb less ram

Ahaha

LOL

@shrewd prism optimize your damn mod pls

XD

[rigid spindle]

perhaps they need lil compression. just a lil. 🤏

[sullen solar]

Just buy more ram

[clear prairie]

I have 32gb but still

Why does a sound mod need to use 1gb of ram

[robust spruce]

Personally I download my RAM

[rigid spindle]

i got 32 gigs too, but i worry for my less spec'd friends

[clear prairie]

The game also runs smoother with it disabled

Which is hella ironic

[sullen solar]

LethalResonance basically overhauls every single sound...

[clear prairie]

Oh yeah don't get me wrong I love the mod

[sullen solar]

Or download ram from here

https://downloadmoreram.com/

[clear prairie]

Vanilla sounds suck but still

[rigid spindle]

about this. should i also do the same and increase it?

[robust spruce]

Is that extra 1GB with the asset loader?

[opal sparrow]

LR doesnt add sounds

[sullen solar]

||(Not a scam link, no need for moderation. It's just a joke site)||

[opal sparrow]

LR replaces sounds

dont blame LR

[clear prairie]

Yeah I use Faster Load

LR is sound files, so Faster Load won't do shit for LR

[rigid spindle]

there was a moment where a friend ingame got blown up nearby, but i didnt hear the explosion. is this related to LCMaxSoundsFix?

[jovial peak]

You won't believe the results

[clear prairie]

lol

[sullen solar]

I mean... It does have to load the sounds to replace the vanilla sounds first...

[jovial peak]

(its working)

[opal sparrow]

im talking about teh 512 sound limit thing she had to increase

also the compression in LR is as good as you're ever gonna get

it's already pretty compressed

[clear prairie]

I mean it's just cus it touches so many sounds it basically is pushing the limits of the game

[opal sparrow]

again, those sounds would *already be playing

[clear prairie]

Cus I had it at 256 with no issues before the footstep update

[opal sparrow]

they dont play sounds

they just replace em

you've just never noticed it before lol

[clear prairie]

Then it might be a SoundAPI issue, or it could be the different sizes

[opal sparrow]

@marsh shuttle yeah go fix ur mod definitely sound api

[clear prairie]

Not all of LR's sounds

are the same size as vanilla

[marsh shuttle]

wharg

[clear prairie]

some are larger

[clear prairie]

@sullen solar looks like you fixed it

c;

[sullen solar]

That fix probably causes more issues though 😅

[clear prairie]

lol

[sullen solar]

Literally this:
var canCollide = ___mainScript.isInsidePlayerShip == localPlayer.isInHangarShipRoom;

[jovial peak]

possible

what might it break?

[opal sparrow]

a lot

but cant really say off the top of my head

try getting a dog to go inside

and see if it can bite ya

[jovial peak]

is my mental included

[sullen solar]

That's already broken, so no need 🙂

[rigid spindle]

will that prevent giant from grabbing u from the ship door entrance

[sullen solar]

Absolutely 😅

[jovial peak]

dawg

[opal sparrow]

depends on what the game thinks the the playership boundaries are, so i think so

surprised dog works

is it just a forest giant patch?

[sullen solar]

No, since other enemies also have the same issue, I just patched EnemyAICollisionDetect

[jovial peak]

I presume this is what you mean

[opal sparrow]

icic

[rigid spindle]

how about u got some invisible boxes on the all sides of the ship except for the ship entrance.
if enemy is touching invisible box & player is in ship, no collide.

[clear prairie]

That sounds like a good way to make the ship lag more than it already does

The ship is the most unoptimized thing in the game

😂

[rigid spindle]

thought most of the lag was coz of the camera feed

[clear prairie]

It's possible

[rigid spindle]

i reduced the frame rate for em and get more fps

[clear prairie]

I've been thinking of removing OpenBodyCams cus I'm tired of the lag it causes tbh

[rigid spindle]

i do 10 fps

[clear prairie]

I'm not capping the fps of the cams

[rigid spindle]

good enough to convey info... doesnt need to be super smooth

[clear prairie]

That causes more problems than it's worth

[rigid spindle]

what problems?

[clear prairie]

A lot actually, the game generally runs worse if you cap the camera fps vs leaving it uncapped

Cameras in the game just suck

[rigid spindle]

well from my testing.. capping it increased performance

[clear prairie]

It's why Zaggy recommends leaving it uncapped

Probably a weird edge case

[rigid spindle]

i meant ship cams

[clear prairie]

also 10 fps is unbearable anyways

[rigid spindle]

dunno about body cam

[clear prairie]

Rather have no cam on the ship at that point

XD

Which I just disabled them in mine

using GI and LethalPipeRemoval

c;

[sullen solar]

Trying to finish the update, garbage Unity keeps crashing on me.

[rigid spindle]

id like to think of it being like real surveillance cameras (which typically are low fps to save on storage space)

[rigid spindle]

whats the new solution u cooked up

[sullen solar]

I just want to change the windows' layer

From TransparentFX to a new layer

1.3.5 pushed ^^

[rigid spindle]

[jovial peak]

ain't gonna lie

the update that toned down the iridescent

is so peak

[rigid spindle]

how about removing the body cams from the ship monitors, but making it viewable only on terminal.
that way its only a performance hit for the person using the terminal and that's probably not too bad since they're not moving around too much.

i dont have openbodycams, but im thinking of adding it to my modpack in this way.

want the terminal person to feel included by giving them the ability to see other players' perspectives

[chilly lake]

I've already messed around a lot with the FPS inside the ship, it's not easy = (

there are 4 main sources of lag inside the ship i would say, Cameras, Light Sources, Terminal and Shader

You can disable the OpenBodyCam camera for you and let your friends have it if they have a better pc, you can also disable the inside camera with that mod

Terminal isn't a lot of problem, as it only lags when you're using the terminal

About the shaders... there's nothing we can do

General Improvements can improve FPS too if you don't use Better Monitors, just mess with the camera framerate and disable post processing i think?

Althrough, having low fps on camera ship may be unbearable for some people

You can remove the monitor near door with LethalPipeRemoval but the light source remains

[rigid spindle]

dang 29 fps

[chilly lake]

yeah, i cap my game at 30 fps 😅

weak pc

[rigid spindle]

i remember seeing someone suggesting for performance optimization on zeeker's server and bro got hella pushback from random people..
telling him to buy a new gpu or that the game isnt even hard to run 💀

[chilly lake]

i saw that too

poor guy

[rigid spindle]

those random people are cringe

in what world is getting performance optimization bad lol

[chilly lake]

it is hard indeed for only 1 developer to optimize a game, but with time that can be done

[unique oyster]

meanies èé

[tawdry lion]

using the same linecast from ForestGiantAI

if (!Physics.Linecast(centerPosition.position + vector * 1.7f, GameNetworkManager.Instance.localPlayerController.transform.position + Vector3.up * 1.5f, out var _, StartOfRound.Instance.collidersAndRoomMaskAndDefault, QueryTriggerInteraction.Ignore) && ((!StartOfRound.Instance.shipIsLeaving && StartOfRound.Instance.shipHasLanded) || !GameNetworkManager.Instance.localPlayerController.isInHangarShipRoom) && !(component.inAnimationWithEnemy != null))

[rigid spindle]

isnt that intended tho? so enemies can get line of sight of u through the windows.. its just them being able to collide with u through the window that was unintended..

[tawdry lion]

well it is intended cuse they should not be see through object on the ship

that was just to confirm that this is indeed that linecast that pass

in order to check if you can be grabbed

you first need to be detected in his "grab zone" collider, and once inside it check for visibility

that last feature just made for such scenarios

[rigid spindle]

what do u think would be good solution to stop the AI from grabbing through the window?

[tawdry lion]

well, by looking at the way it checks... i have no real idea that doesn't need to change basegame stuff

[rigid spindle]

i was thinking triggers by the windows
enemy touching outside window triggers && player in ship = collision denied
though lunx was bringing up possible performance concerns. triggers wouldnt be that bad would it?

[tawdry lion]

im trying to find a solution that doesn't involve a second linecast

meaning maybe changing the current one

like adding a new layer just for windows ?

ehr i dunno

simplest would be to add said second linecast that check only for windows

cuse i think that if we add a layer it may break thing everywhere

...or does it

i am not sure about how they are working, like its a binary thing ¿ so we could just add a layer and add its binary layer to the giant linecast

[chilly lake]

question

is someone also lagging when transitioning between moons?

[rigid spindle]

test said he put windows in a new layer

Windows are now on their own layer, called Windows (id should be 30)

[tawdry lion]

mh

holup

actual mask is (int)2305

so if we add a layer that is n°30...

need to change it to 1073744129

(if i didn't screw up)

[rigid spindle]

how’d u get that number?

[tawdry lion]

that binary

the binary with the layer N°30 is 1000000000000000000100100000001

= to 1073744129

if u remove the 30th 1 (so the far left one), u get the original 2305

[chilly lake]

it seems that you and Lunxara was partially right, i was testing capping the camera fps rn, when you have many cameras on the ship, capping lower improves performance, but when having only one camera (OutsideCamera/BodyCam for example), leaving uncapped actually improves the FPS and removes some random lag spikes

= )

cameras in this game really sucks

[chilly lake]

HACKERMANS

[tawdry lion]

here the default layers

zeekee named the layer used for the giant "StartOfRound.Instance.collidersAndRoomMaskAndDefault"

that is an INT variable

so if you make a binary number using the given name (that suggest using "Colliders", "Room" and "Default"), u end up as espected with (int)2305

2^0 + 2^8 + 2^11 = 2305

[sullen solar]

If you change that one, the forest giant probably cannot see through windows any longer

[tawdry lion]

with our new layer :
2305 + 2^30 = 1 073 744 129

[tawdry lion]

ye simply change the
Physics.Linecast(centerPosition.position + vector * 1.7f, GameNetworkManager.Instance.localPlayerController.transform.position + Vector3.up * 1.5f, out var _, StartOfRound.Instance.collidersAndRoomMaskAndDefault, QueryTriggerInteraction.Ignore) && ((!StartOfRound.Instance.shipIsLeaving && StartOfRound.Instance.shipHasLanded)
to
Physics.Linecast(centerPosition.position + vector * 1.7f, GameNetworkManager.Instance.localPlayerController.transform.position + Vector3.up * 1.5f, out var _, 1073744129, QueryTriggerInteraction.Ignore) && ((!StartOfRound.Instance.shipIsLeaving && StartOfRound.Instance.shipHasLanded)

[sullen solar]

When I tried that, it didn't work properly.

I mean... It worked, but not all the time

[tawdry lion]

what the hell

wdym not all the time

how

also actually it would be better to simply change the value of collidersAndRoomMaskAndDefault inside StartOfRound script

so that it works everywhere

(in case you do not have the index you think)

public int collidersAndRoomMaskAndDefault = 2305 + Mathf.Pow(2f, LayerMask.NameToLayer("CustomWindowLayer"));

[rigid spindle]

interesting observation. yeah i have multiple cameras, indoor & outdoor ship cam.

[tawdry lion]

@sullen solar how are you testing btw ?

[sullen solar]

That would literally defeat the point of the windows being on a different layer...

[tawdry lion]

yea, i think it caused by hitbox that are used to tell if you are inside or not (for sound effect stuff)

[chilly lake]

i think the lag happens mostly in the end of the transition (old moon going away) and the start of the new trasition (ship reaching new moon)

[tawdry lion]

oh yea... i forgor

[chilly lake]

could get optimized... maybe?

[tawdry lion]

uhm, well from my experience it happen everytime u walk through the door

[chilly lake]

ship door?

[tawdry lion]

yes

[chilly lake]

ship shaders

[sullen solar]

I just patched OnCollide method in Forest Giant AI and cancelled it when the Linecast returned true.

The Linecast was a copy of the one in the OnCollise method, but with the layer specifically set to the windows layer

[sullen solar]

Oh... And I spawned 50 giants as I cannot reproduce otherwise

[chilly lake]

everytime you walk out/in of the ship, the shaders change and some things in the ship starts/stop being rendered

[tawdry lion]

why don't you patch it so it does what i just said : use another layermask int ?

[sullen solar]

Well, that would probably result in the same thing

[tawdry lion]

i think you should try like this, and instead of using giant, just draw a linecast from outside the window to the player

(to begin with)

i did this with my enemy

Vector3 start = eye.transform.position + eye.transform.forward;
Vector3 end = GameNetworkManager.Instance.localPlayerController.transform.position + Vector3.up * 1.5f;
if (eye.gameObject.GetComponent<LineRenderer>() is not LineRenderer line)
{
    line = eye.gameObject.AddComponent<LineRenderer>();
    line.material = DEBUGLINE;
    line.startWidth = 0.1f;
    line.positionCount = 2;
}
line.SetPosition(0, start);
line.SetPosition(1, end);
RaycastHit hit;
if (Physics.Linecast(start, end, out hit, StartOfRound.Instance.collidersAndRoomMaskAndDefault, QueryTriggerInteraction.Ignore))
{
    Debug.Log($"Blocked by { hit.collider.gameObject.name}", BepInEx.Logging.LogLevel.Fatal, true, false);
    line.startColor = Color.red;
    line.endColor = Color.red;
}
else
{
    line.startColor = Color.green;
    line.endColor = Color.green;
}

so just change the start origin and add the linerenderer to something else (the player ?)

oh fuck the line material...

damit

well it will be pink

also obviously change the layermask and use your own log

[sullen solar]

Yeee, for now I'll just keep the current fix.

Gonna check that linecast later

[tawdry lion]

k, but just wdym by not working all the time ?

sry if i look like i am too much trying, i just wanna help and understand ;_;

[sullen solar]

Idk. Probably because I spawned 50 giants.

Maybe some of the were pushed into the ship?

The linecast did block some grabs, but not all of them.

That was enough for me to just go a different route 😅

[sullen solar]

Awesome... Seems like I'm allowed to revert the layer change from 1.3.5 as the windows are now invisible in my main modpack 🤔

[opal sparrow]

whaty layer were they

and what layer are they now

u can put the parent in the layer that u want, then put the actual mesh in anotehr layer as a child too

[sullen solar]

TransparentFX vs Windows (Custom layer)

Parent is on Layer Room

[opal sparrow]

can you even add your own layers to the game?

i'd assume the rendering process would ignore them

[sullen solar]

Worked in my testing modpack 🤷

[sullen solar]

1.3.6

* Hopefully finally completely fixed overriding celestial tint skybox
* Hopefully fixed all errors with shutter switch
- Reverted change regarding the Window layer

At this point, I'm adding "Hopefully" to all my changes, because they apparently like to break 😒

[shrewd prism]

wakes up to LR complaints yeesh yall it’s compressed as much as I could. As far as the performance stuff it’s actually likely related because if we want it compressed so it’s smaller than your computer uncompresses it to use the sound. If we update the mod to just be uncompressed raw the performance would increase but the file size would likely be over half a gig

[glacial temple]

wat

[sullen solar]

[rigid spindle]

u took the blame first

then bongo took the blame next

bingo bango bongo

[robust spruce]

what if you released an uncompressed version on the side as a test?

[shrewd prism]

I’ve thought about doing this, sadly unless @glacial temple has the original WAVS it’ll be a bigger file size with no audio enhancement from zero compression HOWEVER it would likely be more performance friendly and a space HOG

We’ll put some thought into this

Also, any thoughts about this @rose flax ?

Wait this isn’t the LR thread, I just responded in auto pilot, yall head over there for LR conversationsss

[glacial temple]

lel

[rose flax]

I could patch together a wav file version of my mod using the old versions of it, and then compare the performance between uncompressed and compressed

Overall, I actually have no idea whether uncompressed files will make it easier on the performance

[unique oyster]

I had the issue where items land under the glass many times

[sullen solar]

Pretty sure that's a vanilla bug 🤔

There are mods that fix this

[chilly lake]

...

why the material is different for both windows?

[rigid spindle]

🤪

🤫

🙈

[sullen solar]

Pretty sure the difference is just the lighting 🤔

[chilly lake]

i said material because i use the No_Refraction, but that window is acting like a No_Refraction_Irisdescence

only that window

[sullen solar]

Oh 🤔

Hmmm...

[chilly lake]

is that another consequence like the reverted texture from doors?

[sullen solar]

Probably not related

Can you land and check the other side of that glass?

[chilly lake]

ok, let me open the game first

assurance from inside

outside

notice that the terminal text disappears

[sullen solar]

That means it's using REFRACTION_IRIDISCENCE for some reason 🤔

[craggy salmon]

does CT still work with vanilla if u make it vanilla mode

[sullen solar]

I'm using Celestial Tint on default values (Vanilla Mode deactivated) in vanilla lobbies without problem 🤷

[plain bolt]

i have this funny interaction with this and the easter egg
when u throw it toward the windows it just went thru it 😂
@sullen solar

[craggy salmon]

oh bet thanks

[frank schooner]

its pink at an angle

[glacial temple]

I think that's intended

[sullen solar]

Iridescence is intended - Unless you disabled it in the config

[frank schooner]

ty!

[iron urchin]

Hhey I had a really weird desync with my friends while playing

They could not see the windows and instead saw a bunch of pink suits on the rack that said "left window", "right window", etc.

But I was the host and I could see the windows fine

[sullen solar]

I currently have no idea what's causing this...

Can I have the log from your friend?

[iron urchin]

Um um I don't think I have it,,

Idk how to get the log either

[sullen solar]

Different game, but the steps are the same:
https://h3vr-modding.github.io/wiki/installing/troubleshooting/log_file.html

[hushed ivy]

Had a desync issue

This is the profile code if you need to do further diagnosing
01903650-2f60-ebb6-09ab-8d10a4468159

But that's when disconnecting, will have to see again if I can recreate the error

[hushed ivy]

sorry, false flag, it's not Ship Windows causing the issue

[little gale]

@sullen solar 👁️
Only mod present is the latest release of ShipWindow

[sullen solar]

Yeah... You can also grab items through it 😅

[little gale]

Aye teehee.
Oh crap sorry, didn't realise you where aware. Checked the GitHub issues and didn't see this listed.

[quartz mortar]

Any reason why the mods been deprecated now?

[fluid granite]

TestAccount continued it for a while now - use that one

[quartz mortar]

Oh okay, shoulda read the read me my bad 😅

[chilly lake]

we do a little trolling

[fading agate]

MASSIVE amounts of trolling indeedd..

[fluid granite]

Do it!

[sullen solar]

:3

[clear prairie]

Now push the update

lol

[chilly lake]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-gooo-fornite-fornite-dance-won-win-gif-22141548

[sullen solar]

Pushed 🙂

[winged flower]

impossible

[pliant crane]

this may be mentioned elsewhere in the 3355 messages, but is there a way to have more than just custom moons have a custom skin in space or maybe set it to where moons with them do them and ones without default to the giant planet underneath

[sullen solar]

That would be a question for Celestial Tint, which I do not maintain...

#1198736199297286196

[pliant crane]

😭

[safe hull]

are we ever gonna get ceiling windows?

[rigid spindle]

might as well make it a glass ship

[plain bolt]

can we get a bigger ship instead

[rigid spindle]

how about instead of making the ship bigger, u just make the people smaller. then the ship will appear to be big.

[plain bolt]

😭

[deft cedar]

why was mod depcratged?>

[glacial temple]

Changed ownership and developement
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TestAccount666/ShipWindows/

[rigid spindle]

ship windows died so ship windows could rise from its ashes

[deft cedar]

did the original creator say anything that happened as to why?

[wide talon]

got bored and moved on

[plain bolt]

#1203500753939988532 message

[deft cedar]

ty

[sullen solar]

That has been done already :3

[sullen solar]

Was literally thinking of trying that xd

[fading agate]

NO FUCKING WAYYY GGHG H G YOU FIXED IT LET'S GOOOO

[rigid spindle]

https://youtu.be/siNmvT5nEkg?t=308

ship windows moment
got em real good 🤣

[opal sparrow]

i dont think that was ship windows

the t-rex code is currently so meh i wouldn't be surprised if it didn't have a safeguard against people in the ship

[rigid spindle]

could be, but t-rex wouldn’t have seen him and aggroed onto him if there weren’t a window there lol

it’s such a comical moment tho

lethal players having gotten used to monsters clipping through the ship and not being afraid

[sullen solar]

That didn't look like the T-Rex aggroed through the window 🤔

[sullen solar]

So... Been thinking about the ceiling windows a little...

The only place I could imagine them is here:

Or just have a small one in the middle

[elder thunder]

Just make the whole ship 1 big window

[fading agate]

why not this spot?

but your spots also work nicely

[opal sparrow]

whats the point of a ceiling window

[plain bolt]

watching your locked out/in crewmate get eaten my the mask

[slender cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-jim-smiling-sneaky-peaking-gif-21893020

[sullen solar]

There's a lamp being annoying

[fading agate]

ahhh shit

[fading agate]

what's the point of a window

:v

[opal sparrow]

whats the point of ur existence

[fading agate]

to explode your pancreas with my mind

[safe hull]

You can see the time from inside of the ship by looking at the sky
You can see your friends trying to hide from giant sontop of the ship
You can see your friends inside getting eaten by a mouthdog while you enjoy your safety up ontop etc.

[opal sparrow]

i can accept the last one, the others are just stupid 😂

[wide talon]

sometimes less is more

[sullen solar]

Nothing is forcing you to unlock all windows

[wide talon]

thats the beauty of modding

[rigid spindle]

yeah that last one is the only good use for ceiling windows

[fading agate]

why does it need a functionality though most of the windows are already just aesthetic in the first place

[rigid spindle]

then the ultimate aesthetic is a ship made entirely out of windows

[opal sparrow]

^

its just too many windows

[safe hull]

well you can decide what windows you want and what windows you don't want no?

[opal sparrow]

yeah, but u gotta consider that this takes time to make

if most people want it, then go for it, and if no one wants it and he still wants to make it, then still go for it, im just giving my opinion lol

[safe hull]

yeah same here, just a suggestion that I always thought about when I discovered this mod

[rigid spindle]

perhaps the real windows we wanted are the eyes to the soul

[opal sparrow]

i dont get it

[sullen solar]

[rigid spindle]

i’m just speaking gibberish

[safe hull]

just make every enemy a window

[sullen solar]

This ☝️

We need that

@opal sparrow, do it

[opal sparrow]

i unfortunately have better things to do with my time

[unique vault]

okay I think its a goofy suggestion but could you possibly make windows breakable?

so whenever something like a dog gets in you could smash a window with a shovel and jump out and wait for it to leave

on the next moon that shutter will be permanently closed until you buy a new window at the terminal

stuff like that

[sullen solar]

Would be funny, but I think the windows cannot be hit due to the layer they're on :/

[unique vault]

maybe a button could be added then to "simulate" glass breaking

like a flip switch but instead of a switch it's a model of one of those tiny metal emergency hammers used for breaking glass

[hearty wedge]

Can’t you just change that?

[opal sparrow]

Pretty sure even without changing window layer you could include it in layer overrides for box collider

[unique vault]

If it's possible, the glass floor would actually become massively useful

You could potentially get rid of a dog by breaking it

I think it's big enough to fit a dog through

[chilly lake]

If this becomes a feature, i would be glad if could be disabled in config, i don't want that

[plain bolt]

the company wont allow u breaking their properties

[fluid granite]

spoiler tag!

[little gale]

Oop there we are

Didn't considder that people may have avoided the trailer

^potential v55 spoiler if you have not seen the trailer

[sullen solar]

Information for everyone:
Mod updates may take a while since my mainboard is broken

[low escarp]

Hi ! I love this mod, so cool. Can we just turn off the voice of the guy telling the windows are being closed or opened ? The switch seems just able to close or open the windows. Thanks !

[granite arrow]

you can look in the config

[fluid granite]

I dont think there is a config for that

Probably intended that way, but I guess Testy could add that in the config

[low escarp]

Thanks ! I hope it works

[glacial temple]

there's a config

How do I know?
I have it disabled
(Sorry Wesley :,])

[fluid granite]

Rip Wes

[fluid granite]

Alrighty good to know

[plain bolt]

every speaker guy being disabled ever : 🥺

[slender cosmos]

you dare silence the might of G.A.R.Y.???

[clear prairie]

How dare you silence Gary

😦

[fervent charm]

is anyone else having an issue where the space_HDRI skybox becomes low res when used with celestial tint?

[clear prairie]

Btw @fluid granite does vanilla mode fix the lag issues in V55 with Ship Windows?

I wanna guess it's the networking stuff causing problems

[sullen solar]

I didn't notice anything like that...

You could try adding this mod though:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/veri/ShipWindows_4K_Skybox/

That will make ship windows use a 4k skybox

[chilly lake]

I did notice it, but never bothered me

The skybox override in celestial tint is a bit worse and the stars at the sky doesn't shine as the original would

But yeah, small details

[sullen solar]

Just to inform you guys...

Updates may be delayed since my mainboard is broken.

Not sure when I'll be able to get a new one

[little gale]

No sweat. It's great that you've been maintaining the mod nonetheless.

Thankfully it seems to be working well with v55 already and there aren't any major bugs.

Good luck with getting it replaced.

[rigid spindle]

is it me or does it seem like a lot of modders on this server get their computers borked?

[red charm]

I mean building assetbundle is cpu heavy

[fluid granite]

is it?

[rigid spindle]

how to make unity take a chill pill and not cook cpu? 😩

[opal sparrow]

idk i didnt notice my usage change at all when i build lol

[strange saffron]

😭😭😭 nooooo

[sullen solar]

You sure? My CPU totally isn't under load

Also... Congrats to me for being able to start Unity?
Yesterday it crashed my pc like 3 times ._.

[safe hull]

fellow dsherman

[chilly lake]

beatiful

[sullen solar]

Perfection

I should make it stop render through windows so you wonder where it is or why there's someone flying at high speeds :3

[latent echo]

i updated Celestial Tint and changed some code https://github.com/sfDesat/Celestial-Tint/tree/main/Sourcecode. Some name changes and I moved the CheckSceneState() to a different .cs file. ShipWindows is giving some errors when in-game

[sullen solar]

Thanks for the info ^^

[sullen solar]

My new mainboard is supposed to be delivered thursday :3

[fading agate]

WOHOO

[unique vault]

mr desat sir my 71-gordon is using desert planet by default

and admance too

[red charm]

hmm, can you do some optimization to call FindObjectsOfType only once via transpiler?
https://github.com/Test-Account666/LethalCompany-ShipWindows/blob/27ccb5a75e76a3e7721c6c3e104ed1841d5ff23d/ShipWindows/ShipWindows.cs#L428

Currently that method takes 6ms and with your patch it takes 12ms, so that's why lag spikes happens when you walk in or out of ship

[opal sparrow]

why not just... use the list of enemies cached by the game already?

there should be one in roundmanager or startofround's instances

@red charm i could be tripping but wouldnt that just work^?

[red charm]

that also should work

but probably would be better to not call EnableEnemyMesh again

[clear prairie]

@sullen solar

[hearty wedge]

also just while we're here, in LockWindowsWhileRouting you can safely use StartOfRound.instance.levels instead of the findobjectsoftypeall. helps for performance and will filter out invalid levels like liquidation

[sullen solar]

And that would still give me hidden moons like Embrion?

[hearty wedge]

oh dude

hidden moons arent like

programmed in

[sullen solar]

I'm unsure what this is even for tbh 🤔

[hearty wedge]

without LLL the terminal just shows a serialized string that zeekerss writes moon names in manually

[red charm]

it's for optimization

[hearty wedge]

hidden moons just aren't in the string

(but yes)

[red charm]

vanilla disable enemy mesh when door is closed

[hearty wedge]

LLL had to do a bunch of stuff to make the moon list dynamic and data based

[opal sparrow]

which doesnt always work and i dont actually know exactly how i should be setting up an enemy for this to work

[sullen solar]

Oof 😅

[sullen solar]

It just took me 3 hours to insert my new mainboard ._.

Wish me luck that my PC boots

[rigid spindle]

🫡

[sullen solar]

So... I either connected the power button wrong, or my PSU just died 🤔

[sullen solar]

Got it to boot, but now I get the CPU error code...

Nice

[sullen solar]

After messing around a bit, I think I found a bent pin in the CPU socket.

I'm gonna bring my PC to a tech store to fix it

[unique vault]

any hope for a front window to be added?

between bunkbeds and the monitor

[chilly lake]

Glass ship when

Aren't there enough windows?

[unique vault]

personally id rather have a window at the front (above teleporer buttons), and one to the right

and no more

I feel like the left window is the least useful

the only moon that uses it properly is vow

[sullen solar]

If I'm going to add it, it's going to be after the rewrite

[unique vault]

👍

[chilly lake]

I use them for aesthetic, if it looks good when added then i will use

[sullen solar]

Me too. Main reason for why I needed those door windows xd

[chilly lake]

Glad you solved the door inverted texture, it triggered me

[winged flower]

Bring back the inverted door texture

[sullen solar]

Good idea! I should also make a wesley mode that turn the ship into a cube :3

[winged flower]

😨

[fluid granite]

i need cube player model too

[chilly lake]

i need to know what the fuck i did

[opal sparrow]

life support

[sullen solar]

Going to sleep now. Good night everyone \o

Except for @opal sparrow, I wish them a ||great|| night :3

[opal sparrow]

Good

[chilly lake]

Beta spoiler: ||The fox can pull players with the tongue through the window and the player gets stuck with him trying to pull someone from the wall||

It happened 2 times but it was funny

[sullen solar]

So... PC works again

Just took me 2 hours to get into my OS because Windows decided to be a bi****

[fading agate]

WOOO

NICE DUDE!!

[weary summit]

Return of the king

https://tenor.com/view/the-return-of-the-king-lord-of-the-rings-ro-tk-title-card-gif-22191928

[rigid spindle]

u unbent the cpu pin?

[clear prairie]

What?

His old mainboard died

Oh I see what you meant

[rigid spindle]

ye i was referring to this

[weary summit]

beautiful moment

with ship windows and #1257820464516960348

[sullen solar]

#Unknown?

[opal sparrow]

press it

[sullen solar]

It didn't let me 😦

[opal sparrow]

its teh random colours thread

[sullen solar]

Uuu, I'll test the random color mod today :3

[rigid spindle]

dont read the chat message 😱

[sullen solar]

Cosmiic was a naughty boy

[turbid olive]

This happens when you load into a save and it removes the red switch for the shutters, ofc it's version 55/56

[sullen solar]

@turbid olive, fixed in 1.5.0

@clear prairie, 1.5.1 should also fix (hopefully) the stutter issue

(Yes, I forgot to do it in 1.5.0 xd)

[turbid olive]

😋😋

[red charm]

Did you change the patch of enabling enemy mesh?

haven't looked at code

[ripe stirrup]

Was just playing today, and we couldn't see enemies through the front door windows when they were closed, at least. Wasn't sure if that was a known issue or something

[clear prairie]

🤔

@sullen solar

[clear prairie]

He might have not sure

[ripe stirrup]

Hmm, yeah I noticed it was updated like 8 or 9 hours ago, and me and some friends just got finished playing, and we had noticed that

[clear prairie]

That would likely explain why enemies can't be seen through the front doors if he changed it

[ripe stirrup]

if that is correlated at all

[clear prairie]

But they need to be seen or else the door windows are pointless

lol

[ripe stirrup]

Hahah yeah

[sullen solar]

I just removed it. Didn't really see a reason to keep it 🤔

[red charm]

yeah, that's why enemies are now invisible while ship doors are closed

[sullen solar]

Hmmm, guess I misunderstood the purpose of that patch

I'll re-add it, but will try a more performance friendly way than before

[sullen solar]

@ripe stirrup, @clear prairie, enemies should be visible again in 1.5.2 😅

[toxic turtle]

mod not working

[turbid olive]

it is working

use the newest version

[toxic turtle]

not working for me

ofc i have the newest version lol

[turbid olive]

are you playing on v50 or v55 with the new version?

[sullen solar]

Please define what isn't working.

A log and the version would also be very helpful

[chilly lake]

Blud just dropped a bomb and disappeared 💀

[toxic turtle]

looks like its incompatible with https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Hamster/LethalPipeRemoval/ again

[chilly lake]

May you explain what exactly is incompatible, yesterday at night i was playing fine with both mods

[toxic turtle]

both this mod and lethalfashion works when disabling lethalpiperemoval

[chilly lake]

What did you enabled on LethalPipeRemoval configs

If it was the light mode, it may break with many mods

Also, you use a mod manager?

Just get the logs and send

[sullen solar]

ShipWindows is incompatible with the low light mode.

Everything else seems to work just fine - Even on delete mode

[ocean dragon]

Noticed that I could interact with the CC through the window of the ship during my last session, not sure if that's been reported

[chilly lake]

It's already know i think, you can interact with objects from the outside through the window, you can even grab the hive through the window if you want

[ocean dragon]

I see

Weird bug

[chilly lake]

(Safe way to get multiple hives outside of the ship when pulling the lever btw)

[turbid olive]

even enemies like forest giants can see you through them

[sullen solar]

That is intended 🙂

[rigid spindle]

i can see you through your window

[clear prairie]

What did you have disabled?

I use them together

[chilly lake]

it probably is low light mode

[pearl echo]

It seems like this mod breaks this mod: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/badmods/WaffleHouseCompany/

[sullen solar]

Do you mean the flickering light?

[pearl echo]

No, I mean that the waffle house doesn't replace the company

[sullen solar]

It does for me 🤔

[pearl echo]

These are my logs from using both at once. The waffle house didn't replace it.

[sullen solar]

No idea what the issue is... It works in my Test-Modpack, so I don't think it's a ShipWindows specific issue 🤔

[pearl echo]

only happens when i enable shipwindows

and im only using these mods and bettersaves

[sullen solar]

I can see that. That also happens to me, if I only use ShipWindows and this mod.

But at the same time, the mod works just fine when I use my Test-Modpack

[pearl echo]

🤔

[sullen solar]

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
WaffleCompany.Patches.RoundStart.SummonWaffleHouse (StartOfRound __instance) (at <4f7e9f26c6144c80a145b9972cf84040>:IL_021D)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMD<StartOfRound::openingDoorsSequence>(StartOfRound)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::FinishGeneratingNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager)
RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__125.MoveNext () (at <0b5b829887344817a21214132ea92eef>:IL_0342)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

Just found this error

[hearty wedge]

Waffle House code is extremely unsafe

[pearl echo]

damn

[manic talon]

i will fix waffle house code later today

ik i did a bad job with the code lol. i am new to unity, didn't think so many people would use it

[rain gust]

Do you have a thread for your moon? You should make one so you get the modder role 🙂

[manic talon]

no. i can make one

[rain gust]

Make one, then if you need help with stuff there's the new development thread for moons https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1263331414271594538

[manic talon]

thanks. i made one. did i do it right?

[sullen solar]

I'd recommend also sending the link to the mod 🙂

[rain gust]

Probably should add your mod too XD

[manic talon]

sweet thanks

[hearty wedge]

Hope you didn’t take any offence 🤝

It’s weird stuff to do modding wise in the first place so at it’s best something like that is gonna be odd code anyway aha

[manic talon]

Not at all. Im very glad you said something. Im guessing its because i didnt null check like anything

[pearl echo]

i think selling scrap to the waffle house is funny

especially when the monster gets angry

[gentle void]

truckwindows addition when

[ripe quail]

im assuming this is a bug, you can throw eggs and drop items through the window

[sullen solar]

This is known, but unlikely to get fixed

[hearty wedge]

Why

[sullen solar]

It's because of the Windows' layer.

They are set to TransparentFX to allow monsters to spot you and allow you to trigger vision-based monsters (Like the Shy Guy)

[hearty wedge]

so just have the collider on another object

[sullen solar]

How would that collider differentiate between items and monsters?

[opal sparrow]

you should decomp and see the raycasts that monsters do

[hearty wedge]

you can either yoink some code off @opal sparrow that I suggested to manually ignore collisions between two objects or if you want to be cheeky you could two meshes with like one of their faces deleted so raycasts shoot through the backface fine

Or maybe it’s simpler and i forgot

Multiple options forsure

[opal sparrow]

yeah, im guessing u dont even need to do either, there's likely a suitable layer

have u tried the following layers:
default, collider, room, railing and vehicle?
those are the layers that items use

[sullen solar]

Pretty sure all of those are also used for enemies

[opal sparrow]

just mess around and find out

[sullen solar]

So far, the Railing layer is the most promising.

Doesn't fix the ability to put items inside windows though

[hearty wedge]

Im in bed so i cant wrap it around in my head properly but i think a option would be to have the mesh collider be two meshes with a missing face on either

Cuz raycasts can’t shoot through backfaces and you can layer per way

[sullen solar]

Well, guess the Railing layer is the way to go.

Thanks @hearty wedge and @opal sparrow

[distant fractal]

it would be funny if enemies could see into the ship

imagine just opening your shutters like window blinds and peeking out and just seeing an old bird stare at you as you close the shutters again

[sullen solar]

They can see you through the windows 🙂

[distant fractal]

o

[viscid moat]

could someone tell me why the mod isnt working?

BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
TestAccount666-ShipWindows-1.6.1
mrgrm7-LethalCasino-0.5.4
x753-Mimics-2.6.4
Bobbie-UniTask-2.5.0
Bobbie-NAudio-2.2.2
qwbarch-BarchLib-1.0.2
qwbarch-Mirage-1.8.1
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Nips-Brutal_Company_Plus-3.5.1
Jordo-NeedyCats-1.2.1
Sligili-HDLethalCompany-1.5.6
anormaltwig-LateCompany-1.0.16
notnotnotswipez-MoreCompany-1.9.4
CapyCat-Solos_Bodycams-1.0.5
sunnobunno-YippeeMod-1.2.4
Lordfirespeed-OdinSerializer-2022.11.9
xilophor-StaticNetcodeLib-1.1.1
EliteMasterEric-Coroner-2.0.0
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.16.1
Evaisa-LethalThings-0.10.6
EladNLG-EladsHUD-1.3.0
FlipMods-TooManyEmotes-2.1.25
sfDesat-Celestial_Tint-1.5.2
mattymatty-AsyncLoggers-1.6.3
Coppertiel-MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork-3.3.0

modlist

[fading agate]

did you check behind the terminal?

[distant fractal]

the window is behind the terminal

and your configs might have just disabled it unless you buy it from terminal, i personally make it all instant unlock

[distant fractal]

💀

[fading agate]

that's not usually where the terminal is

[distant fractal]

that got me dead bro

[fading agate]

I mean like, behind here

[distant fractal]

oh

well just check

if you have it

[viscid moat]

nowhere

[fading agate]

weird, can you check the terminal's store?

[distant fractal]

disabled in configs

and that ^^

[distant fractal]

type window or door

[viscid moat]

all mods are enabled

[distant fractal]

no like

[distant fractal]

maybe you disabled insta unlock in the configs

nvm

probably broke it somehow

[viscid moat]

I mean

[distant fractal]

try landing and see if the door opens

[viscid moat]

only 3 configs too

• many mods didnt load too

[distant fractal]

preeetty sure you broke it somehow 💀

[viscid moat]

lmao

[fading agate]

oh if there's only 3 configs try closing and opening the game back up?

[viscid moat]

tried that multiple times

lmao

[distant fractal]

yeaaaah smth broke on yo end 👀

[fading agate]

i'd say just try making a new profile w the same mods then, no idea why your configs would delete themselves like that

wack

[viscid moat]

like using the code?

or how

installing mod by mod again?

[distant fractal]

try either one

[viscid moat]

i just copied the plugins folder

[fading agate]

that'll most likely do the same thing

do either code or mod by mod

[viscid moat]

oh i got the game location wrong

[ripe quail]

when playing with vanilla compatibility, why is this a feature?

[craggy salmon]

just turn off window 4 and it wont be much of an issue

tho i do kinda see your point

i personally dont use this mod when i play in vanilla lobbies anyway

[ripe quail]

I only use window 2 (or maybe 1 I forgot)

[craggy salmon]

then enemies seeing through them wont really be a problem

[ripe quail]

no

but the items are

and it's still kind of bad

[craggy salmon]

just dont drop items near the window lel

[sullen solar]

You can drop items into the wall anyway. I don't really see an issue.

You can even drop items through the ship's roof

[ripe quail]

I'm trying to prioritise compatibility between a few of my modpacks, and Ship Windows is in one of them, so I'd appreciate it if the vanilla compatibility worked

[sullen solar]

Well, that will come in the rewrite of ShipWindows - Which will take a while

It is not a big deal since you can just hide in a different spot on the ship and grabbing through the windows is your own decision...

(I'm unsure if grabbing items through the windows is even still possible in the latest version)

[ripe quail]

it is

[fallow locust]

who voices these windows

[slender cosmos]

magic wesley

[chilly lake]

here i am to give testy work again

some friends said that the skybox was just void, i was confused and asked them to take a print

here it is

i asked if the config had SPACE_HDRI and they said yes

(it happened after i asked them to disable UnlockWindow1 & EnableWindow1)

apparently it was only a client-side problem, as the host could see it normally

[sullen solar]

@chilly lake, did he change the "Override Celestial Tint" option?

[chilly lake]

Nope

We don't use celestial tint, so the option is disabled too

[sullen solar]

Something went horribly wrong on his side then 😅

I've never seen that without Celestial Tint so far

[chilly lake]

I asked for the logs but didn't have any error relates to Ship Windows

[harsh lava]

What does the non-deprecated add that the old version doesnt have?

[harsh lava]

Ill check tmmr, its 8:30pm for me

[chilly lake]

Monsters can see through the window, a window at the door and well, version compatibility?

A new shutter as well

[sullen solar]

Actual support, a new window, more features in general

[chilly lake]

That made me remember, shutter doesn't save his position between save files

[sullen solar]

Yeah yeah... I'll fix that eventually 😅

[slender cosmos]

@clear prairie

[clear prairie]

Ik he dmed me the preview lol

[lyric dust]

Would you be able to add an option where the shutters tie into the ship shutter hydrolics? So the shutter switch will close the door and all the shutters, but only until the hydrolics hit 0?

[sullen solar]

I could look into that 🤔

[lyric dust]

I'd appreciate it 😁

[shell snow]

all fun and games till giants constantly aggro onto you because they can see you through the windows

[sullen solar]

They can even grab you through the windows, if you disable the EnemyFix :3

[hidden cargo]

Speaking of that, I was grabbed by the kidnapper fox through a window while having the fix enabled

[chilly lake]

Would you believe if i said that the problem was NilsHud? 😅

[nimble shadow]

I always get this error code

any idea why?

[sullen solar]

I think I know why, but it's not breaking anything, so it shouldn't be an issue

[daring hearth]

hi! i noticed in the latest version when buying the floor window, placing/moving furniture on it is extremely off! it either doesn't wanna place, or goes through the floor. i don't remember this being an issue in the previous versions though

[gentle void]

Do you use GI? I think GI overhauls the placement system, maybe there’s an issue with it

[fading agate]

i don't use GI and have had this issue

[shell snow]

yeah this is one of the reasons i uninstalled this mod, it is a problem

[sullen solar]

Please update to the latest version, @daring hearth and @fading agate 🙂

@shell snow, please report bugs next time. Otherwise I cannot fix them

[shell snow]

also is there a way to make it so monsters cant see you through the windows?

[sullen solar]

The only way currently is to close the shutters

[winged flower]

Alert, closing the ship's shutters

[sullen solar]

@shell snow, guess this is what you want?

1.8.0

+ Added config option to change enemy + window behavior (Defaults to false when vanilla mode is enabled)

[fading agate]

thanks bestiee

[shell snow]

YESSSS

am glad u can play in vanilla without the enemies seeing u through windows now lol

[sullen solar]

I personally liked the extra challenge, but oh well xd

[shell snow]

it gets annoying when 2 giants constantly camp the ship because they see you through one of the windows for .1 seconds

[shell snow]

i dont think the settings is uhh... there

[sullen solar]

Works fine for me 🤔

[shell snow]

it aint there for me lol

even after i redownloaded it

[craggy salmon]

u have to delete config then regen

[shell snow]

alr

its still not there

[sullen solar]

You don't have to do that...

[sullen solar]

Are you sure 1.8.0 is already available in your mod manager?

It usually takes about an hour or two.

You tested it 20 minutes after I uploaded that version 🤔

[shell snow]

its there now 😄

[rain gust]

I would love for there to be some workaround for this. It's the only issue I have with the windows, giants get pretty campy unless you have a good hiding spot in the ship

[jovial peak]

You close the shutters

Then you turn the new option to allow enemies to see through the windows off

3rd secret option is turning off all windows in the config

[sullen solar]

I think I should make the ship fully transparent, if you disable all windows :3

[rain gust]

Glass ship mode when?😂

[jovial peak]

https://tenor.com/view/tole-tole-tole-tole-cat-vro-vro-gif-15477731157546004638

[sullen solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1029457821420507219.gif?v=1

[opal sparrow]

Make the windows breakable if u can /s

A mod of mine needs my enemy to break the glass :p

[sullen solar]

Imagine bringing an engine into the ship and it just shatters

[opal sparrow]

Looool

I more so mean just add a function that:
A. destroy(window);
B. Starts up a particle system for Window shattering.
And C. Maybe creates navmesh under it so that enemies can go through it

And I can call that function when I need to :3

[sullen solar]

If you do B for me, I might be able to do that 🤔

[sullen solar]

[opal sparrow]

For now just make a dummy particle system that gets called and I'll replace it when I call the function, don't forget to make that particle system a parameter

Make sure the position is the centre of the window pane

[sullen solar]

Sure

<t:1723058374:R> though

[opal sparrow]

That's fine

I'm in no rush

[sullen solar]

I noticed since you still haven't uploaded the unity files 😦

[opal sparrow]

You're completely right, dm me like tonight or in 14 hours and I'll upload em

Tonight as in 4 hours, just depends on when I'm on pc next

[snow talon]

i dont suppose theres a config setting to disable the new voice lines entirely is there?

for the sell counter anyways

[wide talon]

would like this as well

[snow talon]

i dont mind wesley's voice but its odd hearing one other than the company's lol

[snow talon]

my current workaround has been replacing the audio file with this and having the setting that makes it rare turned on

[serene plank]

thirding this sentiment. Was very jarring to randomly hear and I couldnt even understand what was being said

[craggy salmon]

fourth

[craggy salmon]

yea lol, i thought he was saying polar every time. tho i know now from the text above hes saying alert

#1203500753939988532 message

[little gale]

Wesley we hate your voice

[wide talon]

it's true

but seriously though, like i get it, it's a cute little thing, i dont think modders shouldnt be allowed to put in fun stuff like that, but i wish it wasn't forced on users, especially for something that is not related to ship windows

[clear prairie]

How do you guys dislike the Wesley easter egg?

This is such a weird thing to complain about I love it

[rose flax]

Wesleys voice doesnt really fit

[clear prairie]

😦

It's an easter egg so I like it tbh

[craggy salmon]

i also hate lethal easter egg scrap that explodes and kills me

worst scrap in the game

[clear prairie]

Lmao they were so funny during the V50 beta XD

https://clips.twitch.tv/AuspiciousOpenSproutMoreCowbell-U-4zrH-VavZMPzxZ

https://clips.twitch.tv/WimpyLitigiousWerewolfAMPEnergyCherry--LsXM9fGE7bam2DA

V50 beta eggs were amazing

LOL

[craggy salmon]

did they only launch u like that in beta

[clear prairie]

Yes

I kinda miss them doing that tbh

It was so funny

LOL

[sullen solar]

Like this, @clear prairie?

[clear prairie]

LOL

Are you making a mod to restore it?

🤭

[rose flax]

Homeboy almost landed ontop of the company building

[clear prairie]

Lmfao it was fantastic

Wasn't expecting the mad lad to make an EasterEggSettings mod I'm looking forward to this

XD

[sullen solar]

The explosion I just got was so strong, it even made HDRP throw an error 💀

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDShadowManager.PrepareGPUShadowDatas (UnityEngine.Rendering.CullingResults cullResults, UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDCamera camera) (at <b8abf62aeac646cea5c5cde032ff9314>:IL_0025)
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipeline.PrepareLightsForGPU (UnityEngine.Rendering.CommandBuffer cmd, UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDCamera hdCamera, UnityEngine.Rendering.CullingResults cullResults, UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDProbeCullingResults hdProbeCullingResults, UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.DebugDisplaySettings debugDisplaySettings, UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.AOVRequestData aovRequest) (at <b8abf62aeac646cea5c5cde032ff9314>:IL_0161)
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipeline.ExecuteRenderRequest (UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipeline+RenderRequest renderRequest, UnityEngine.Rendering.ScriptableRenderContext renderContext, UnityEngine.Rendering.CommandBuffer cmd, UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.AOVRequestData aovRequest) (at <b8abf62aeac646cea5c5cde032ff9314>:IL_0315)
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipeline.Render (UnityEngine.Rendering.ScriptableRenderContext renderContext, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] cameras) (at <b8abf62aeac646cea5c5cde032ff9314>:IL_04C9)
UnityEngine.Rendering.RenderPipeline.InternalRender (UnityEngine.Rendering.ScriptableRenderContext context, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] cameras) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_001C)
UnityEngine.Rendering.RenderPipelineManager.DoRenderLoop_Internal (UnityEngine.Rendering.RenderPipelineAsset pipe, System.IntPtr loopPtr, UnityEngine.Object renderRequest) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0046)

[Warning: Unity Log] Render Pipeline error : the XR layout still contains active passes. Executing XRSystem.EndLayout() right now.

[clear prairie]

LOL

Yeah it seemed stronger than the V50 beta one

That is funny

[sullen solar]

I'd never :3

[clear prairie]

Haha

[wise bridge]

Blurry?

[sullen solar]

Do you have a mod that increases the view distance?

[wise bridge]

yeah

[sullen solar]

That's likely the reason

[viscid moat]

does the mod work with v60?

[glacial temple]

yes

[viscid moat]

thx

by the chance do you know if mirage works with it too

[glacial temple]

idk

[sullen solar]

Mirage seems to work just fine 🙂

[viscid moat]

okay thanks

[rose flax]

Floor window has a gap, pls fix

[sullen solar]

Wait until he finds the other gap 💀

I'm trying to fix it, but I probably need a new model for that window

@fluid granite, want to make a model? :3

[fluid granite]

I think this one can be fixed easily

[sullen solar]

Are you sure about that?

[fluid granite]

90%

[sullen solar]

Well, get ready...

I'll send you a video in a few minutes

[marsh ermine]

deprecated mod?

[little gale]

The original is depricated Look for the new one from TestAccount, they're maintaining it now.

[sullen solar]

Seems like I broke the door texture again guys 😅

[clear prairie]

How?

[sullen solar]

And I may have broken the shutter switch

[clear prairie]

Bad Testy

[sullen solar]

By just recompiling the AssetBundle in my v61 project 😅

[clear prairie]

Strange, Something must have not migrated over properly

lol

[sullen solar]

Oh really? Are you sure?

[clear prairie]

Btw I think I was wrong, the floor texture when you have the floor window still seems to use the material from ship room metal

[sullen solar]

Not even sure what you're talking about

[clear prairie]

Rip

[sullen solar]

Wait till you see this 😅

[clear prairie]

It's an issue @jovial peak pointed out, the floor texture's global texture is normally Mat Ship Floor ((With Ship Colors btw)) but with the floor window it uses the ship room metal one instead

Probably an issue from when Veri still maintained the mod that you just never caught

[clear prairie]

You can manually readd them though right?

[sullen solar]

Pretty sure I'm not touching any materials though?

Just the model 🤔

[clear prairie]

[sullen solar]

Actually, that's a lie. I am touching the poster materials xd

[hearty wedge]

some materials got offset

dunno why

patcher thinks b is c and g is h sometimes etc

[sullen solar]

Actually... I am touching materials 😅

I'm guessing the submesh warning isn't good?

@clear prairie

[clear prairie]

Glad it was an easy fix

[sullen solar]

I didn't fix anything...

[clear prairie]

Oh?

[sullen solar]

I just showed you my setup

[clear prairie]

I wonder why it uses the wrong material when the Window is there then

Weird

If only I had more knowledge on Unity

[sullen solar]

Textures work again ^^

Shutter too

[clear prairie]

Yay

[sullen solar]

@clear prairie, floor texture also has been fixed by removing the excess materials

So... Just wait for the next update xd

[clear prairie]

Noice

[sullen solar]

Not sure what's going on with that door though...

[clear prairie]

Lmao

[gentle void]

What mod is that for the pikachus lol

[sullen solar]

That's part of @fluid granite's Seichi

[fluid granite]

[sullen solar]

[sullen solar]

🙂

[safe hull]

is the whole door just a glass pane or what am I looking at

[harsh lava]

What abt the mini-cruisers, and do they act as an rc

[quartz sierra]

I'm using the FurnitureLock mod to control the layout of my ship, but I can't get it to reliably store the position and rotation of the Shutter Switch. Everything else works perfectly (for both mods). I'm not sure whether there's anything I can do or if it's the result of the switch itself being configured differently than other furniture in some way.

[sullen solar]

The mini cruiser doesn't drive, but you can honk with it xd

It's from one of my mods called TestAccountVariety

[sullen solar]

This is a known issue and will be fixed eventually

[obtuse charm]

Hey, so for some reason none of the ship windows are showing up on a new save even though I disabled unlockable mode. Here's my log file and dependency strings.

[sullen solar]

Disable LethalPipeRemoval and try again

[lone latch]

@sullen solar Hi! Sorry to bother you a little with a topic that has nothing to do specifically with this mod, but would you mind perhaps updating this mod? Montior Labels
Something like you did with Ship Windows. I think this mod is very important but it hasn't been updated since v56 and it seems the original author is no longer active. Please! 😦

[sullen solar]

I'll have a look, but cannot promise anything

[half urchin]

@sullen solar , small issue, the window lever does not save position when leaving and entering a save

[tribal chasm]

Also, could it be possible to make its default position next to the window?

[sullen solar]

This is known and will be fixed eventually ^^

[sullen solar]

Which window? There are 4... 3 of them could have a switch next to them

[tribal chasm]

The og mod had it next to the window near to the terminal

[mental light]

Yo @sullen solar crazy idea. What if we made it (or a version) compatible with this mod?
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mborsh/Wider_Ship_Mod/

👀

[sullen solar]

Eventually, probably

[gritty pecan]

this needs a little polishing before that

[harsh lava]

is this host-sided

[hearty wedge]

no

[harsh lava]

damn

if theres a way to you should

[hearty wedge]

no

[harsh lava]

make it host sided

maybe like just

grab the default scale tool

and expant

[hearty wedge]

yeah that cant be done on the host's side

[harsh lava]

dang

i really wanted wide ship

[hearty wedge]

then download it 😄

[harsh lava]

but i cant join vanilla lobbies with it

and ppl cant join me

[hearty wedge]

that do be how mods work

[harsh lava]

clientsided mods:

[hearty wedge]

not to nitpick but in most communities client side mods refer to mods that work that can work on just individual clients

"host side mods" that people use sometimes in this community are very rare to be possible tbh

[harsh lava]

i mean

brutal comp is a thing

its very big addition

[gritty pecan]

I don't remember if I checked it tho

[hearty wedge]

stuff like brutal company can only exist because the few select things you can make a "host sided mod" for is by changing what answers the host gives out when a client asks them a question

[harsh lava]

would there hypothetically be a way to make suit mods host-sided so anyone can use them

[hearty wedge]

no

because you can't give clients new things

[harsh lava]

dang

[jovial peak]

use this texture that doesn't actually exist for you

[harsh lava]

fair

but shouldnt they atlesat be able to see what suits are which so they can wear then to see on ur end, they just wouldnt see it themselves

[hearty wedge]

no

the list of suits is not something that's just synced between all clients

each client has to add each suit

in that order

for it to be synced

[harsh lava]

oh ok

[harsh lava]

what about yesfox mod?

[sullen solar]

YesFox mod just spawns the Fox, which is a vanilla monster that has been disabled

[harsh lava]

so is it host-sided?

[sullen solar]

Should be host-sided, yeah

[harsh lava]

ok

are any of these vanilla incompat?

[sullen solar]

Please, have a look at the description and tags of these mods.

They will usually tell you that

[harsh lava]

i did

[sullen solar]

And what do they say?

[harsh lava]

i filtered for must have "client-sided" cannot have "server-sided" but some are still incompatible

[sullen solar]

To get proper help with that, you might want to ask some questions in #modding-general or smth

[harsh lava]

okidokie

[quartz sierra]

I'd kill for that integration. Might even be willing to toss you some beer (or coffee) money in exchange, if that's something you're open to. I tried it with my crew... we liked it, but we like the windows more!

[opal sparrow]

im waiting for that function that lets me destroy the windows so i can hook onto it

[mental light]

Same ngl

[chilly lake]

for some reason, black and stars skybox isn't working, idk the reason

it doesn't throw any error

0191d48d-e3df-052a-b794-ab6cc89613de

[sullen solar]

Thanks for the info. I'll have a look

[plucky estuary]

Was just about to ask about that. Same problem here

[tribal chasm]

Does closing the shutters make the enemies not see you?