#Mirage

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torpid arch
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truly magic

deft cape
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truly one of the worl'ds wonders

soft hollow
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Cook him lads

deft cape
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i didnt even notice

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6:40am things

soft hollow
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Nah the real 6:40 am things are

deft cape
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just like yesterday y'all suddenly popped in when i was about to go bedge

torpid arch
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it ain't ide, no autocomplete πŸ’€

remote iris
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its 2:40 pm for me πŸ’€

soft hollow
deft cape
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discord ide when

deft cape
soft hollow
deft cape
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why are u not sleeping fr tho

soft hollow
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I got too many projects started

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And not enough finished

deft cape
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damn what a hustler

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should still sleep tho 😭

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also not good for productivity if u force urself to stay up

torpid arch
soft hollow
torpid arch
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😭

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noooooooo

soft hollow
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I preorder my coffin

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My funeral next month

deft cape
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see if you can get it fitted ahead of time

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gotta make sure it fits

soft hollow
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Yep

deft cape
torpid arch
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carrying a dead person is hard

soft hollow
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But then after that I have to get up and start posting on my yt channel again

torpid arch
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or so i've heard

deft cape
soft hollow
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No time to stay dead, I gotta hussle

remote iris
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something new released

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this might be good

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oh wait

amber swallow
soft hollow
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Translate what this is for my small oxygen malnourished brain

deft cape
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thats too much reading for my low attention ass

remote iris
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i think ive sen this before

deft cape
soft hollow
remote iris
soft hollow
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same sleep deprivation speaking

remote iris
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it looks like dat

deft cape
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LMFAOO

deft cape
soft hollow
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But

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Why

amber swallow
deft cape
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wait u said it's new

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this was released december 1st

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πŸ’€

soft hollow
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I gotta leave my house in 5 minutes

torpid arch
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"new":

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soft hollow
deft cape
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im brain dead

deft cape
solemn ridge
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That ui leaves much to be desired tbh

amber swallow
remote iris
remote iris
soft hollow
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That UI makes me feel like I wanna eat a mental asylum

solemn ridge
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Why is the ui for it such a mess?

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XD

remote iris
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i said here ive seen it before

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its the one that lethalcompanyvariabeles uses

solemn ridge
deft cape
amber swallow
deft cape
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u guys are so ruthless 😭

remote iris
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or unreleased moon

remote iris
deft cape
solemn ridge
amber swallow
remote iris
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dawg what is that

soft hollow
amber swallow
deft cape
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YEP ITS IGGY

torpid arch
soft hollow
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WHY IS HE NOT DYING

amber swallow
remote iris
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i remember iggy having a more uhhh humanoid face lol

amber swallow
deft cape
remote iris
soft hollow
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IGGY GET OUTTA HERE, HES STILL ALIVE

amber swallow
deft cape
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somebody shoot this man

torpid arch
amber swallow
soft hollow
deft cape
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mi6k

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he had to post that one

soft hollow
deft cape
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😭

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iggy 😭 😭

soft hollow
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I call it gun on a stick

amber swallow
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iggy did non

remote iris
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i aint gonna finish that lol

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AY MODS

amber swallow
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i force @remote iris to watch JoJo with me

remote iris
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CHILL

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NO

deft cape
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do it

soft hollow
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imma call the Feds

deft cape
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joseph best joestar btw

soft hollow
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Xu

remote iris
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RASMUS

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I TOLD U

soft hollow
remote iris
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JOSEPH IS THE BEST

amber swallow
soft hollow
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You are oh so ever WRONG

deft cape
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@remote iris it's us against the world

soft hollow
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@torpid arch @deft cape go get Chaos and make a jojo mod

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Adding stands into Lethal

torpid arch
soft hollow
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So I can finally rock that spider’s shit

remote iris
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joseph is quirky jonathan is too serious jotaro too and josuke has no manners lol giorno kinda uhhh out of place he dont look like no joestar and i havn't reached part 6

deft cape
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#1209330350426431539 i wish this were a thing LOL

deft cape
amber swallow
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Ringo Roadagain is my fav villain

deft cape
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who the fuck

soft hollow
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Sounds part 7

remote iris
deft cape
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oh thats in the manga eh

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i dont think i got that far

amber swallow
remote iris
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i sent it twice on accident lol

soft hollow
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1v1 me YBA

amber swallow
deft cape
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yea i got no attention span to read

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πŸ’€

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i have next level brain rot

amber swallow
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im at part 9

remote iris
deft cape
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is stone ocean part 6

amber swallow
deft cape
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i was watching that a bit but then got bored

amber swallow
amber swallow
deft cape
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ill wait till it's animated

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i like my anime πŸ₯Ί

soft hollow
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Is is…

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Where have you BEEN

deft cape
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part 7?

amber swallow
amber swallow
soft hollow
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No part 6

remote iris
deft cape
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oh yeah ik i meant ill wait for part 7 to get animated instead of reading it

remote iris
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it got animated like 1 week ago

deft cape
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i still need to finish stone ocean

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got kinda bored mid way through

remote iris
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rasmus kept hyping me for it

deft cape
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probably the worst jojo arc for me

remote iris
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joylne is mid

deft cape
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ong

remote iris
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change my mind

deft cape
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we on the same wavelength

amber swallow
remote iris
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joseph outright rejecting death and also appears in 3 parts lol

deft cape
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wtf a jojo without the jo

remote iris
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yes

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i mean holly exists

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wait dragona aint a jojo

deft cape
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true but she dont matter 😭

amber swallow
deft cape
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fuck true...

amber swallow
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and at the end of kujo theres jo

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so basically kujo is a jojo afterall

deft cape
remote iris
deft cape
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LMAO

amber swallow
soft hollow
remote iris
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BARCH SAVE ME

amber swallow
deft cape
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i cant believe mi6k doesn't think joseph is best joestar

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and thinks joylne is not mid

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😒

soft hollow
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I challenge you to a YBA 1v1 duel

remote iris
amber swallow
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i like josuke8

soft hollow
deft cape
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i dont need YBA to know joseph is best jojo 😒

soft hollow
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Finish part 6

amber swallow
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part 8 is the best

deft cape
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part 6 helped fix my insomnia

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maybe i should pull it out rn

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i cant sleep

remote iris
soft hollow
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Part 6 middle is atrocious

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I’ll give you that

deft cape
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oh thats where im at

amber swallow
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part 6 is depressing

soft hollow
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But it’s ending and thematically makes Joylne my favorite Joestar

deft cape
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i guess i just gotta push through that boring part

amber swallow
soft hollow
deft cape
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yea i probably will

soft hollow
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You must accept your gravity

amber swallow
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thats white snake

soft hollow
amber swallow
deft cape
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this guy is the random character

Tonio.webp
amber swallow
remote iris
deft cape
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i wish i could bawl my eyes out like okuyasu

remote iris
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bro i saw okuyasu's skin getting ripped off lol

deft cape
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and scratch my skin until it builds meatballs

remote iris
deft cape
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wait i forgot about that...

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i thought it was supposed to be one of the new main characters or something

soft hollow
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I’m like

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Blacking out

remote iris
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solution: sleep

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dawg u can do uberman sleep and become as productive as no sleep lol

soft hollow
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Sleep is too long

remote iris
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do uberman then

soft hollow
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Don’t know what that is

remote iris
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one of thse

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deft cape
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fuck it's already 7am wtf

remote iris
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all of thse are uberman sleep

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oh wait

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only on

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e

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i meant top oh well

deft cape
soft hollow
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I’m back from my coma

torpid arch
soft hollow
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@deft cape sometime near 6-7pm est are u free

amber swallow
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@deft cape what language you speak?

soft hollow
amber swallow
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language

soft hollow
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Ah

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C#

remote iris
pseudo trout
solemn ridge
pseudo trout
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Men, I spent a lot of time doing that UI you make me cry

solemn ridge
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I'm sorry 😭

soft hollow
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Me personally

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I would allow that level of disrespect

solemn ridge
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I dun wanna make man's upset or cry though

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Lol

pseudo trout
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I would appreciate to know why you think it looks ugly

soft hollow
pseudo trout
solemn ridge
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It's not so much I think it's ugly just sort of messy, which isn't your fault I'm just used to how clean and simple AC's ui was XD

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It's probably wrong for me to compare it

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I apologize

pseudo trout
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yea AC UI looks good, however does not allow the dynamic nature of this mod

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nono, I appreciate the feedback really

solemn ridge
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It was certainly not my intent to make you feel bad

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XD

pseudo trout
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lol

solemn ridge
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I hate upsetting people πŸ˜†

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You should ask for Mi6k's feedback too though their comment was much worse than mine ☠️

pseudo trout
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Alright xD

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@soft hollow Why do you hate my interface so much :(

soft hollow
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Legally speaking I never said I hated it

solemn ridge
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I will definitely say I don't hate the ui

soft hollow
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But if you want feedback

pseudo trout
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my man think he's saul goodman

pseudo trout
solemn ridge
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I just spoiled myself during my time using AC

amber swallow
soft hollow
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These red sharp outlines on the rectangle boxes on a blurred black background is abrasive feeling

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pseudo trout
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I though it was more of a problem with the layout than the palette itself

solemn ridge
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Yeah I can agree with you there, I also think the ui might be a bit better if it were centered

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With the save file text and stuff on the top left instead

soft hollow
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But just to showcase my point look at what I consider a sexy UI

remote iris
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might look better idk

soft hollow
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LethalConfig

pseudo trout
soft hollow
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The duller red makes the rectangle feel less sharp and cutting from the background

solemn ridge
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LethalConfig hurts my eyes if I look at it for too long tbh

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The red is like really bad to stare at

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But I do love it's ui

pseudo trout
amber swallow
solemn ridge
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Yeah I 100% overexaggerated earlier when I said the ui was awful btw XD I do agree the outlines are a bit too sharp of a red though and I think the placement of the ui would be better if made centered otherwise it's fine tbh

soft hollow
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I’m struggling with ui myself

solemn ridge
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That's more my OCD speaking though regarding the ui placements

soft hollow
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I’m making a stream overlay

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Shit sucks

pseudo trout
solemn ridge
remote iris
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WAIT @deft cape I STILL HAVE SHREK IN THE MODPACK IF U GET THE TV YOU'LL SEE SHREK 😭

twilit monolith
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"Are you real?"
"Own a musket for home defense, as the founding fathers intended-"

lilac saffron
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Another question, will voice recognition be for all enemies or only masked?

buoyant skiff
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All.

lofty sorrel
lilac saffron
lofty sorrel
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What previous question

amber swallow
lilac saffron
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Here

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@lofty sorrel

lofty sorrel
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Ah then no, pretty sure all enemies other than Masked will remain largely as they are

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Could be wrong, Barch would give the most accurate answer ofc, but that's as far as I know

remote iris
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@deft cape also school moon kinda dont work

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so imma remove it

deft cape
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yeah it'll be for masked enemies only. all the extra computing is expensive so there shouldnt be that many enemies that does the behaviour predictor stuff

deft cape
lofty sorrel
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I played a full round on my multiplayer pack alone earlier just to make sure there weren't any obvious issues, and I realised that in my many reloadings of the game yesterday to try and fix LethalQuantities I had Mirage recording my voice while I was talking to myself and to my friends about economics, so the things I heard in that game were not what I expected

remote iris
deft cape
deft cape
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id be down on monday probably

remote iris
deft cape
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oh nah im gonna join u guys sometime

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cuz my friends are kinda shy

remote iris
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than ur friends

lofty sorrel
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"You've got to be fucking me" came up in multiple different tones, meaning I musta said that a lot. "You won't earn any money from the slop", "Yeah and you won't earn any money!", "But we'll save so much money not having to pay a worker", "Okay thank god it didn't work", "Or if this works", "Okay that doesn't work at all?", "I'm gonna screaaaaaaamm", "It's happening in singleplayer now as well", "I tested it two hours ago and it worked fine", "I didn't change anything...", "That doesn't look like working...", "Missing dungeon flows..." many iterations of this, "Let's see what the log says...", "Fuuuuck", "Ah MAN", "What changed", and then just a whole lotta coughing. Also idk what happened with this file:

deft cape
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ill just join u guys instead sometime

deft cape
remote iris
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ay its an honor to have the man himself barch joining us later

amber swallow
deft cape
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🫑

amber swallow
remote iris
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DAWG CHILL

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U RUINED MY MOMENT

deft cape
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πŸ€“

remote iris
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😭

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NOT U TOO BARCH

amber swallow
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πŸ€“

lofty sorrel
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I did notice that there's like 100 files that are basically empty, and they're all like 1 to 50Kb, whereas clips with stuff actually happening are usually like >80Kb

deft cape
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why do i relate to that so much 😭

deft cape
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will be using a better voice activity detector in the future

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rn im just using dissonance's built in one

remote iris
deft cape
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better voice activity detection fixes it anyways (so far it seems) πŸ˜›

remote iris
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still prob uses waaaay less performance

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like its a basic ahh feature

deft cape
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better vad so far looks pretty minimal in cost

remote iris
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barch from what u remember how old do u think i am

lofty sorrel
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14

remote iris
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ill say after barch answers cuz like a lot of people get my age wrong lol

deft cape
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i feel like ur in ur early 20s or 18/19

remote iris
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WHAT TYPE OF GUESS IS THAT LOL

deft cape
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πŸ’€

lofty sorrel
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I know kids, I'm gonna be a TA soon

deft cape
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crazy

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wait TA for what

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economics?

remote iris
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ppl say im 17 or somethin

lofty sorrel
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Lmao no, just general teaching

amber swallow
deft cape
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17 was the lowest id think u are, didn't expect 14 LOL

lofty sorrel
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Puberty will do that

deft cape
remote iris
lofty sorrel
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#Puberty will do that

remote iris
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#debby is right

oblique galleon
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#general-chat or

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#off-topic-memes

torpid arch
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πŸ₯Ί

abstract shale
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yo, my friends gets host does not support mirage when he tries to join me

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what can i do

remote iris
abstract shale
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okey

remote iris
abstract shale
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his computer crashed so idk

ashen sage
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The 200 credit loss after the death screen (that doesn't do nothing even when changed) can be fixed? Or disabled?

deft cape
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set EnableCreditsPenalty to true, i accidentally left it to false as the default, meant to change that

remote iris
abstract shale
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yes

lofty sorrel
abstract shale
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yes

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great mod

uncut sierra
lofty sorrel
uncut sierra
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played with mirage last night.. DeleteRecordingsPerRound = false, MuteLocalPlayerVoice = true and AlwaysMuteLocalPlayer = false. In addition with all the interior enemies = true.
It doesn't seem like I EVER hear voices while spectating people. There were many instances where they were calling out (and they iterated that they heard a voice) for someone and I never heard anything at any point.
These were all for regular enemies (not masked.)
I'm wondering if some of my settings conflict in a way that causes a problem. While alive I never heard my own voice (good), and mirage worked fine. But while dead I just never heard anything.

Also looking for some clarification. When an enemy mimics a person, would we all hear the SAME voice clip, or just ANY voice clip from that same player?

Additionally, is there any effect whether DeleteRecordingsPerRound = true or false, in regards to what voices are played? If recordings are deleted every round, is it clearing all recordings prior to, or just getting rid of ones that are stale? Meaning would we hear recordings from earlier in the night or not?

lofty sorrel
# uncut sierra played with mirage last night.. DeleteRecordingsPerRound = false, MuteLocalPlaye...

Not hearing voices in spectator could be a bug, but in regards to everything else:

Every voice clip will be the same no matter which player hears it, with the exception of having your own voice muted.

DeleteRecordingsPerRound will delete all of the recordings you've ever had. There's a folder in the steam folder with every voice clip. This will be emptied after every "round", which misleadingly doesn't mean per moon just per hosted session. So if you have that ticked to delete per round, it will have started recording from when you joined, and deleted when you left (or might delete when you join another game, I'm not sure specifically)

uncut sierra
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thank you. appreciate it

lofty sorrel
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Dev will probably fill in any gaps I missed when he's around

deft cape
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debby is correct, you should be able to hear voices while you're spectating

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just in case, could you send your config so i can double check? @uncut sierra

uncut sierra
deft cape
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config looks completely normal, could you send me your logs as well?

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if you still happen to have it at least

uncut sierra
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don't have that, but next time we play i'll make sure to save it

remote iris
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bro football is so annoying @deft cape its because im used to doing what people say lol and this gives me a huge annoyance lol

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rasmus and the others like her tho

wispy fable
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Mirage does not use AI I assume, right?

remote iris
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But it will in 2.0

wispy fable
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oh

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okay

buoyant skiff
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If by AI you mean machine learning, then no. Not yet.

flint edge
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i have a question, should i disable the MaskedEnemyOverhaul mod when im using Mirage mod?

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will it clash or something?

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or it can work both ways

buoyant skiff
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Use MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork.

flint edge
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ahh i see

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what is the diff btw?

buoyant skiff
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Description explains it.

flint edge
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okey ii

amber swallow
remote iris
buoyant skiff
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Wrong thread?

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So, are spawned Masked supposed to copy me 1:1 when I play solo? I mean consmetics and the like.

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Or is that MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork's doing?

remote iris
buoyant skiff
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I'm not a mod and that's mostly down to OP, not mods.

remote iris
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so it copies a random player and since ur the only

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its always u

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thats mirage btw

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i mean they both do that but since ur using meof im guessing u have the compatiabiltiy config on and since that will give control to mirage then its mirage doing it

deft cape
deft cape
soft hollow
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they updated to 2k and 4k textures that move outside

remote iris
# soft hollow

Ngl 2k looks better cuz stars are bigger and less performance cost

soft hollow
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yea

remote iris
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By 2k i mean the 2k config in the config

solemn ridge
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@deft cape maybe it's good that your mod disables the credits penalty by default atm lmao I can't trust my team to not get themselves killed and make us not lose money it seems πŸ˜†

soft hollow
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Im beginning to consider turning off penalty

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The difficulty is already hard enough

lofty sorrel
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Consider #1207572302678589451

soft hollow
lofty sorrel
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I'll consider it considered

solemn ridge
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Ugh why does it need CSync?

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Lol

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But yeah I'll add it

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I'm just sick of dependencies piling up

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🀣🀣😭😭

lofty sorrel
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It used to use CSync AND EasySync

solemn ridge
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Oh god that's worse

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Is the mod stable btw? I see it's made by the same dev as TakeThatMaskOff

lofty sorrel
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FacilityMeltdown also uses CSync

soft hollow
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Me when I got 40 cosmetic mods and 12 depenacies in my 160 mod modpack

lofty sorrel
soft hollow
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I trust the modmaker

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they made Arachnophobia

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which to be fair

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was buggy as shit

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but now its ok

solemn ridge
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Oh that mod sounds interesting

soft hollow
solemn ridge
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No

soft hollow
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Damn

solemn ridge
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I'll add it though

soft hollow
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It makes Spiders actually sickening

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It is also a very good way of balancing spiders if u want

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Can edit their speed and damage

solemn ridge
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I've gotten used to boxing them now

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I usually do 1 hit, run back a bit

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hit again

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rinse and repeat til they're dead

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ShovelFix has also been a great addition to my list, once you realize that it always prioritizes the left of you rather than directly in front of you in vanilla the vanilla shovel mechanics feel really inconsistent and annoying

soft hollow
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I thought shovelfix had issues with it

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Yea isnt ShovelFix and DoorBreach incompat

solemn ridge
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Yeah if you use DoorBreach they're not compatible

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but I've never used DoorBreach

soft hollow
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I like doorbreach so sucks for me

lofty sorrel
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I have a great mod replacement for doorbreach

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Find a key

soft hollow
solemn ridge
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They both work

soft hollow
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@solemn ridge question

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Do you use LCUltrawide

solemn ridge
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I do

soft hollow
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Im debating if I should use that or HDCompany

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Do you have experience with either

solemn ridge
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LCUltrawide is the better option

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HDLethalCompany touches a lot of things that it shouldn't which tends to cause issues and sometimes incomptabilities with mods

soft hollow
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btw Im going only on base resolution

lofty sorrel
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I just remembered something my friends brought up, @deft cape if I were to put my own .wav file in the Mirage folder of the game directory would that be picked up and potentially used by creatures ingame? Or is there a nebulous naming convention or smth

lofty sorrel
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There is some sort of limitation, maybe sample count? But I had some 0-2 second clips I there in there and they played. I had a 7 second clip that wouldn't play, so either there's a clip length exception or some form of filesize/samplecount exception

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Tried to find the answer myself in the sourcecode but I honestly can't read wtf is going on, there's so many references to so many different things

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More likely a memory or upload limit tbh

deft cape
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oh i know what ur running into

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ill explain later since im on my phone rn

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but it's something i plan on fixing, it's just not a big deal for 99% of people so i never prioritized it

deft cape
solemn ridge
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Yeah I added the mod Debby suggested

solemn ridge
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Btw @deft cape I noticed after people put a mask on they still do the arms out animation when walking up to you, and my friends could see them wearing the mask even though I couldn't lol. I think that might be a weird compatibility thing with MEOFork though cus that didn't happen when I used to use AC still and had AC control masked spawns

deft cape
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idk if there's in incompatibility since i dont use it, but even if both mods remove the mask texture and arms out animation, it should still work

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so not sure what's going on

solemn ridge
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Yeah I just disabled those features in MEOFork and had Mirage control them so could be some situations where the settings being off for one mod causes weirdness

deft cape
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only thing i can say is to try the other way around, and if that still bugs out then lmk

solemn ridge
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I'm thinking LethalCompanyVariables looks the most promising right now

deft cape
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i know less about what mods to use than you πŸ˜›

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i tried lethalquantities with debbie's help for the config, but it's still not as user friendly as i'd hope it is

solemn ridge
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LethalQuantities is just too messy for me to consider

autumn glen
solemn ridge
solemn ridge
autumn glen
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i dont know how to read :3

solemn ridge
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LOL you're all good

deft cape
# lofty sorrel There is some sort of limitation, maybe sample count? But I had some 0-2 second ...

alright so to explain why the longer clips don't work, this is what's currently happening:

  • audio clip gets streamed/played
  • imitate delay starts immediately after starting the audio clip
  • next audio clip gets played after the delay is over, and if the previous audio clip is being played, it gets stopped

the reason i never bothered fixing it is because in 99% of cases, audio clips are smaller than the delay anyways, so it's not really an issue.
i was already planning on fixing this in a later update when i get time to rewrite some of the audio networking logic.
but to recap, it's not due to memory limit issues or anything, in fact when i originally tested networked audio, i used ram ranch as the test to make sure larger audio files work properly

https://youtu.be/sERA_TdZx1s

YouTube
qwbarch
mod test
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so in a future update i'll fix that part and audio files that are larger than the delay will work again, but it's just not too big of a priority for now

lilac saffron
soft hollow
lofty sorrel
remote iris
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almost there...

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remote iris
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also will mirage work with this?

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i mean u said it uses the mic before it goes through the filtering of the game and everything

buoyant skiff
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Means it will work then?

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I'm going to use it either way because lack of any noise suppression is annoying.

remote iris
buoyant skiff
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I only know of one and it's not good enough because it's controlled through keys without any actual info.

fading tusk
remote iris
copper ridge
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Are there any plans to make the masked support model replacement API?

remote iris
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he's focused on the things he annouced that he will do in the 2.0 version

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i mean this btw

lofty sorrel
copper ridge
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understood

torpid pecan
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Idk what to even say about this lol
I think this was a larger desync issue cuz the fella joined late n stuff
What we had was...basically...from my pov, anytime he spoke in game, i couldnt hear him, which is a common bug
But
His voice was then replaced with random voice clips of stuff he said earlier, as if he was a mimic when he wasnt
We had no mods that would let you play as a mimic or messed with voice chat really
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1086036554046242896/1213654510933639251/HarveySkinwalker.mp4?ex=65f642d8&is=65e3cdd8&hm=cf34aaff222f6d10c5e80085fa61d66edfa63f482120dbdcbd63b3b9cad01d64&

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Like i tell him to talk to me about Gold, and you can just barely hear in my other friend's mic echo he responds correctly
But from my pov he stays silent and then stats babbling about a plushie, from when he found on earlier

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it was really funny and one of the weirdest things i have seen in the game

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i think its just a fluke from a desync tho, cuz we had other desync issues during that run

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its like those randomizer mods for games that replace dialogue with other random dialogue

remote iris
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lol

remote iris
torpid pecan
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when we was in the facility it was driving me crazy
"Hey bro, i think we should go cuz its getting late"
"I found bottles"
"Huh!?"
"There's a bracken btw"
"Huh"
"I think we should invite him"
His random dialogue was confusing me

remote iris
lofty sorrel
torpid pecan
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i dont think i have the logs unfortunately

torpid pecan
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in which case, it proly has nothing to do with mirage

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cuz some of his sentences in isolation seemed coherent

remote iris
#

barch is finally back

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les go

deft cape
#

yeah honestly if it does come from desyncing bcuz of another mod, i got no clue how to fix that

deft cape
torpid arch
deft cape
remote iris
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barch the mods dont allow anything that aint about mirage and lethal company and stuff so uhhh we gon have to do those chats somewhere else

deft cape
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😭😭😭

remote iris
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we cant farm messages 😭

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were growing extremely quick

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even without updates

deft cape
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yeah ever since the viperian vid

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im surprised it's suddenly spiking that hard

remote iris
deft cape
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LOOOOOL WTF

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voice actor material

remote iris
#

because it becomes louder

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when the bracken is closer

deft cape
#

yea i mean whoever it was recorded from

remote iris
#

i keep seeing a dude called chance in the vc thinking its u

lament mica
remote iris
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i saw him aswell

deft cape
torpid arch
#

i'm gonna change mine to mess with you 🀭

remote iris
#

we need some updates

deft cape
deft cape
stuck coyote
#

There's this weird bug that seems to only occur when mirage is installed. At the end of a round it'll always say 200 dollars were deducted, but the money stays the same

solemn ridge
stuck coyote
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gotcha, thanks

solemn ridge
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It's not a bug

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πŸ‘

fading tusk
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which mod?

buoyant skiff
#

It's a mystery.

solemn ridge
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I go to see what she was calling my name for then I walk into her being dragged away by the Bracken XD

deft cape
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yo how is the bracken able to look like this LOL

image.png
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what mod is that

solemn ridge
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Might be cus of Diversity idk lmfao

fading tusk
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do you guys have some kind of mod that changes the appearance of the bracken?

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like PlayerBracken mod

solemn ridge
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No

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I prefer the vanilla appearance of the Bracken

buoyant skiff
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That just looks like typical ragdoll stretching when being dragged by Bracken.

fading tusk
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your friend was using the glowstick suit?

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i think i can see it properly now

amber swallow
deft cape
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Mirage v1.1.0 is released:

  • Rewrote the config syncing logic. Thanks to Owen3H (author of CSync) for their config syncing implementation.
  • DeleteRecordingsPerRound has been slightly reworked.
    • Setting this to true is unchanged (recordings get deleted after the lever is pulled, per round).
    • Setting this to false now only deletes when closing the game.
    • Default value is now set to false.
  • MuteLocalPlayerVoice is now set to true as the default.
  • EnablePenalty is now set to true as the default.
    • To clarify, setting this to true is the vanilla behaviour.
    • This will likely be removed in a future update, as it's a relic of the past back when Mirage had different goals.
solemn ridge
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Unexpected update πŸ˜„

deft cape
#

was just a quick update to fix the config syncing (since the modding wiki's example is broken), so it sadly doesn't really have anything else that i was planning on adding just yet

granite musk
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was hoping for a v2.0 instead UAHGHHUAHGHHH broiled

deft cape
#

v2 isn't happening for awhile πŸ˜‚

granite musk
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its okπŸ˜‚ take your time

remote iris
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We farmin downloads with this one πŸ”₯

deft cape
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lmfaoo

bright junco
deft cape
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yeah, only when you're alive though

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so if you're spectating you'll hear your own voice mimics again

bright junco
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ill turn it on then i really enjoy hearing myself its so dready haha

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knowing somethings out there

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its funny when i micspam some silly sound but hearing it from something thats not me is terrifying

deft cape
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oh if you want to hear yourself you'll want to set it to false

bright junco
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yep

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i will

buoyant skiff
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Others still hear it though, right?

bright junco
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yea

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it just enables you hearing yourself

buoyant skiff
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Wish it checked which players are close enough to hear and used voice of someone who isn't.

bright junco
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yeah i was actually just thinking about that as a suggestion

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but i was trying to formulate it in my mind first

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like checking for the mimicked player being on line of sight or by distance

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if you distance yourself from a friend youd hear them and get lured

deft cape
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someone suggested that already but i don't plan on adding that for quite awhile

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don't really want to look at doing distance checks when i'd rather focus on v2's stuff rn

bright junco
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aah

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v2 sounds so great..

deft cape
#

stay tuned for progress updates 🫑

maiden tusk
#

btw I've noticed that you can hear the mimicked voice from very far away

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is it something to do with the sound distance being too high?

deft cape
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i tried to copy the exact settings that the game uses for player's voice chats

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doesn't seem to be enough though unfortunately

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so it's something i'll look into (probably next week), after i get a bit of work done for v2

bright junco
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maybe a volume slider would do enough

deft cape
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nah ill have to explore another way on making the audio being thr exact same as player voice chats

meager quarry
lofty sorrel
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Idk how he's gonna quantify that one

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It wouldn't really tell you much either

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Even if it's 50% done, that doesn't mean you have an equal time to wait foe the release as the time since he started, all depends on how much he gets done on any given day

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Being one human etc etc

lofty sorrel
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Cause dev is now gone and unassociated with TH, but I think someone's continuing CSync development?

torpid arch
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l m a o

buoyant skiff
lofty sorrel
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But not on TH?

buoyant skiff
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Yes.

acoustic fox
#

what's TH

lofty sorrel
#

What's the purpose for Sigurd uploading it then?

lofty sorrel
acoustic fox
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oh, usually ppl abbreviate it as TS so I got confused

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but anyway, why CSync deprecated :/

lofty sorrel
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Oh true, idk why I'm saying TH

oblique galleon
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thats the one people need to start using

acoustic fox
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is it a trustworthy fork

buoyant skiff
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It will be 1:1 copy essentially. Not so much a fork, but a mirror.

lofty sorrel
#

I see I see

lament mica
broken mango
#

When are you able to tweak what modded monster can use the voice feature?-

lilac saffron
#

rip yuzu emulator

obtuse sorrel
#

anyone knows if theres a way to make masked copy modded 3d custom model suits instead of the base texture used for them?

safe sundial
#

currently?

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no

deft cape
deft cape
deft cape
deft cape
deft cape
broken mango
lament mica
deft cape
#

Oh not for the recordings I mean, that's only for the final output

obtuse sorrel
deft cape
#

Yeah it's quite unfortunate, I wish it's supported as well πŸ˜”

remote iris
deft cape
#

Isn't that role more for sound engineers

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I only write code πŸ˜›

remote iris
deft cape
#

Damn u right

solemn ridge
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@deft cape you know I'm surprised with all the features BarchLib has that you haven't implemented UniTask and NAudio into it just to reduce dependency amount lol

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Tmw my mod pack contains 18 dependencies

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☠️

deft cape
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but you'd still have the dependencies

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either way

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it doesnt change anything

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difference is if every mod bundles the same dependencies, you have more to download instead

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for barchlib it's mostly f# stuff so nobody is gonna use it anyways, so theres no point splitting it up, but for unitask/naudio, it's a common enough dependency that mods should be using a shared distribution anyways

errant sundial
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suggestion: keep track of who was in earshot of a voice line and avoid replaying that voice line to the players that previously heard it

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or weight it lower in the RNG

deft cape
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i was going to add something like that in v1.1.0 but didn't end up having enough time to add much

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but next update i'll add an option where you can have it play only audio that it hasn't played before, and once all recordings have been played, they'll be added to the available pool of recordings to play from again

uncut sierra
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I noticed that a lot of the audio clips are super short and might not even contain anything (maybe a weird blip or something.) I'm assuming these noises would get played and count as a voice line.. which a player might not even realize is anything at all.
so it could essentially be TWICE as long between actually hearing someone's voice. Any way to mitigate that through detection of peak volume in a clip or maybe even minimum audio length requirements?
Requiring > half a second clip might cut out simple responses such as "Yeah", but would definitely cut out a single mouse click sound or similar.
Just theorizing

deft cape
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this is a result of voice activity detection having a lot of false positives.
in v2 i'll be using a much better voice activity detector that appears to be pretty accurate so far (haven't tested it yet): https://github.com/snakers4/silero-vad

deft cape
timber notch
solemn ridge
#

The perfectly cut scream too

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XD

deft cape
#

"AHHH-"

solemn ridge
#

XD

dark talon
#

Mirage doesn't have anything to do with which player is mimicked unless it's the spawn mechanic upon death, correct?
Cause with Skinwalkers + MEO it seems like a player putting on a mask will have its mimic mimic some random player which might not be the one who put it on.
Wondering if it's the same with Mirage or if putting on a mask somehow triggers the upon death spawn of Mirage.

maiden tusk
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it depends I think since mirage either disables natural spawns for the maskeds and instead turns a dead player into a masked once they die (which I guess includes putting it on) or it just copies a random person once a masked spawn naturally if that is enabled

buoyant skiff
#

And if you do, did you enable its compatability feature?

deft cape
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don't use MEO though, use MEOF with the compatibility config enabled

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oh wait agitatio just said that lmao

dark talon
#

Yeah, I'm long time user of Mirage in my personal pack. The observation of putting mask on leading to wrong player mimicked is from another pack I'm maintaining that I didn't switch over to Mirage yet. It was with Skinwalkers + MEOF

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But I'll switch it over to Mirage now πŸ‘

deft cape
#

well skinwalkers wouldnt do anything for who to mimic since it always plays random voices.
when you're talking about it mimicking the wrong player, you're talking about, e.g. the player's suit not being the same right?

dark talon
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wait a sec

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it's on video

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be aware it's German tho πŸ˜„

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the guy putting on the mask had a DOOM helmet cosmetic but his mimic that's then teleported to the ship has the cosmetics of the player it's about to devour xD

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teleporting happens at around 55:40

deft cape
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now thats odd, sounds like an MEOF bug

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@round swan pinging so u can double check

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im pretty sure last i tested mirage it copies it fine though, so yeah just make sure you enable the compatibility config so mirage can handle who to mimic instead

dark talon
solemn ridge
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I've had no issues using them together ;o

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Most expensive can of Coca-Cola btw

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XD

deft cape
deft cape
sterile spindle
dark talon
#

that and they always roll within a range

alpine flame
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i dont think they do, there's a value range for every scrap item tho

solemn ridge
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I use MeteoMultiplier

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So weather changes values

maiden tusk
#

custom planets modify scrap value too if the modder set it up

solemn ridge
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AHAHAHA Bruh

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I just had a mimic come sprinting and grab me while I was on a ladder

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☠️

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Bruh tf this one was on a mission

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It's in the damn wall

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LOL

deft cape
#

that looks like a modpack icon LOL

solemn ridge
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Haha it really does

deft cape
#

actually never knew scraps had dynamic values though, TIL

fading sapphire
bright junco
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the range isnt usually very big for things like big bolts (32, 36)

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but perfumes can be like 70 or 120

dark talon
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Rubber duck is 2-100 xD

soft hollow
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@deft cape dawg when you have free time we should play together, im getting tired of balancing and testing by myself, i need some lab rats

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πŸ’œ course only when and if ur free

remote iris
#

Today btw

soft hollow
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I might be a tad bit late but I’ll be there

remote iris
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Also barch sleeps at this time so yeee

remote iris
soft hollow
#

God bless EST

remote iris
#

Im gmt+3 aame for my friend but he has daylight savings time and i dont

soft hollow
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EST is the only correct timezone fight me

remote iris
soft hollow
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Haha

amber swallow
quasi falcon
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will this work with skinwalkers installed

buoyant skiff
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No. You don't need Skinwalkers with Mirage.

remote iris
# soft hollow Haha

Wait u didnt clarify ur modpack or mine cuz idk maybe u wanna test ur modpack and ill happily do so but we have to ask barch aswell

willow lily
lilac saffron
#

mir ag.,,,

soft hollow
remote iris
round swan
amber swallow
remote iris
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@soft hollow i would appreciate if u send the code rn so we dont have to wait 10 mins later or tell me the name if u released on thunderstore

bright junco
deft cape
soft hollow
#

im awake

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and home

deft cape
#

send modpack

soft hollow
#

sir yes sir

#

018e1036-a3e0-ecac-c0b0-dc8c21efcb60

remote iris
#

Was making dinner

#

Lets do it

#

im importing the modpack

deft cape
#

same

soft hollow
#

ngl dont remember how I left the modpack, probably stable

remote iris
#

look in steam

amber swallow
remote iris
#

stuck at 100% rn will tell u when it loads

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ITS DONE

amber swallow
remote iris
#

oh wait u have less mods than my modpack lol

deft cape
#

progress update: sadly still not much i can say, i've been pretty stuck πŸ˜‚
still figuring out some technical stuff, but i might be able to implement the improved voice activity detection and real-time voice recognition soon

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improved voice activity detection will most likely only come in v2 though, i don't feel like adjusting things to make it work in v1

maiden tusk
#

can't wait for it

amber swallow
meager quarry
#

does mirage have an asset bundle?

remote iris
dark brook
solemn ridge
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QualityCompany, I just disabled almost every feature of it cus they're almost all useless lol

buoyant skiff
#

They're not useless. They just exist in other mods that you use.

solemn ridge
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I'm pretty sure it's needed for the sell features and the latency meter stuff

buoyant skiff
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It has 3 main groups of features. You use HUD one. Second one is monitors that you use GI for. And third is terminal commands. So no, they're not "almost all useless".

#

There's a difference between calling something useless and it having no use for you.

#

And you constantly keep bringing up the networking feature that has like one conflict and is easily disabled.

upbeat olive
#

is this mod not working ? because my friend cant hear himself in spectate when i hear him we were in discord testing a modpack

deft cape
#

@upbeat olive whats ur config like?

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as long as AlwaysMuteLocalPlayer is set to false, you should be able to hear yourself during spectate

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@upbeat olive is this set to true for you? if it's already false then there might be some sort of mod conflict somehow

upbeat olive
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one second

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i believe its default

lyric kestrel
#

Does this mod still need push and talk to store voice data?

upbeat olive
#

@deft cape

buoyant skiff
upbeat olive
#

these are the mask mods i have

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and this

lyric kestrel
#

Yeah so it works like skinwalker but voice synced version?

torpid arch
lyric kestrel
#

Well it's time to say goodbye to skinwalker

deft cape
deft cape
# upbeat olive

hmmm it's supposed to work then, sadly i dont have time to debug what could be causing it to not work, but with your config you're supposed to be able to hear your own voice during spectate

#

could you drop your modpack anyways? i'll try and take a look in a couple days when i have time

upbeat olive
#

yes

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018e1d5d-17f7-2ea6-c42e-4ba42561e0d2

lyric kestrel
#

Now it seems like what I expect now so time to switch

deft cape
#

good time to switch since it's pretty stable rn

lyric kestrel
#

Also skinwalker is not update for a long time

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So I think I will use this mod - which is still updating and improving : D

deft cape
#

if you haven't seen it yet, check out what's gonna come in v2 as well πŸ˜„
#1200695291972685926 message

edgy axle
#

also because you can customize the interval of voice imitations

#

by the way, when exactly do voices get imitated?

deft cape
#

you mean how the timing works?

edgy axle
#

yes

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something like when the player starts talking, with a chance?

deft cape
#

right now as soon as the audio file is starting to be fetched, the timer already starts, and as soon as the timer ends, the next audio clip will start

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and if a previous audio clip is still playing, it'll get cancelled

#

i'm gonna change this behaviour later on though

#

so that it'll only start after a previous one finishes instead

deft cape
lyric kestrel
#

AI will become a thing so we have to make a server for AI to calculate voice data?

deft cape
#

nope each client will calculate whatever's needed for their own voice mimics

#

potentially will be able to offload computations to other pcs that are stronger, but oeis and i still need to figure out the implementation details for that to work

lyric kestrel
#

So each client will have their own AI model

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And will train in the background?

deft cape
#

yep

#

and it only trains your own

lyric kestrel
#

Interesting. So if I didn't misunderstood anything I guess client can choose use recorded clips or use AI generated voice clips?

#

Otherwise if host using AI and client is not using that. would cause some problem?

deft cape
#

oh it wont be AI generated voice clips, it's still going to be using the voice clips that's saved like it is now

#

difference being that it'll try to pick the correct one based on context

lyric kestrel
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I thought it was AI generated voice XD. I was praying for those people who have potatoe computer

deft cape
#

and if you have a bad pc but your friend has a good pc, one of our goals is to make it so that work can be offloaded to the other player instead

deft cape
#

the tech isn't quite ready for training/using your voice on the fly

#

maybe in a couple years it'll be way more advanced but for now this'll have to do

edgy axle
#

will language be a problem though?

lyric kestrel
#

And also there's another question

#

Well @edgy axle asked my question

deft cape
lyric kestrel
#

Will this become "English" only?

#

Oh

edgy axle
#

great, great

lyric kestrel
#

Hope there will be Traditional Chinese version

deft cape
#

mandarin is supported

#

cantonese, sadly i don't think it works

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at least not in the current model that we use

lyric kestrel
#

I'm Taiwanese

lilac saffron
#

Is arabic supported?

deft cape
#

lemme check the list 1 sec

lilac saffron
#

Aight

deft cape
lyric kestrel
#

But mandarin from china had quite different with Taiwan version

lilac saffron
#

Nice

deft cape
lyric kestrel
#

It may work...Cause I see lots of Taiwanese people talking about this model and how to use it

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So I guess it will work?

deft cape
#

oh interesting, were you looking at links just now? if so can u send it? i just wanna take a look πŸ‘€

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unless u mean just from personal experience

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the accuracy for it is pretty damn impressive to me, it's ignoring my keyboard presses, while letting my voice pass (as expected)

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so for v2 you can expect to finally get rid of the annoying keyboard sounds if you're on voice activity

lyric kestrel
#

https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/AI_Art/M.1689866228.A.CBA.html

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[εˆ†δΊ«] openai_whisper / faster-whisper /webui

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whisperθˆ‡faster-whisper

#

Most of Taiwanese using this model to add CC to their video

deft cape
#

niceee very good to see

lyric kestrel
#

And they had point one issue that faster whisper is add Simplified Chinese CC while recognize Traditional Chinese

#

But I think that won't be a problem cause you are using it to choose which voice clips to use

deft cape
#

yeah

#

since it's not like players will see the transcriptions

#

it'll be fine for that at least

lyric kestrel
#

The most difficult thing is - how to compare which clips to use

#

Like if I said : I love you
How to let AI reply : I love you too
And not let it reply : I killed a mask

deft cape
#

so when the ai trains, it's trying to learn how you answer to certain phrases, so if someone says "i love you" and you respond in a certain way, it'll respond with that voice clip more often

#

at least that's what i understand from what oeis explained, cuz this part is his work

lyric kestrel
#

Sounds really cool

deft cape
#

of course when you play for the first time, there'll be no data so it won't really know what to pick

#

in that case it'll just have to be random until it's learned more of how you normally respond

lyric kestrel
#

So when 2.0 is out maybe this mod will become the largest mod that Thunderstore never had XD?

#

Like 125mb or smtXD

maiden tusk
#

what is the rough eta of this update do you think?

#

must be pretty far off right

deft cape
#

the ai stuff will have to be an optional package because of how huge it is

deft cape
#

but it's really hard to say

lyric kestrel
deft cape
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pytorch itself is like 2gb iirc

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in total i think rn it's like 3-4gb

lyric kestrel
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Holy moly

deft cape
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fun fact: thunderstore doesn't even support packages over 2gb rn so i have to wait for mythic (the owner of thunderstore) to add support for it

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thankfully for me i've got plenty of time to wait

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since it's not gonna be for awhile before v2 will be ready

lilac saffron
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lyric kestrel
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But every time you update for mirage it mean everyone have to redownload 2gb or more of that right?

deft cape
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but all the main code will still be in mirage

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basically i'm just making it so that if the dependencies are found, you'll be able to use the ai features

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if not, then it'll be auto disabled

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so it avoids the need to redownload a couple gb every update

lyric kestrel
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I thought I have to pay 2000 NT dollars every month to change my disk

deft cape
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πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

lyric kestrel
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Mirage : installed
My disk : AHHHHHHHHHHH why master why!!!

deft cape
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thankfully that won't have to be the case πŸ˜„

lyric kestrel
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Yeah and also while 2.0 drop in June(I hope so). It'll be my last summer vacation. So I would enjoy it for 2 months XD

deft cape
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why's it your last summer vacation πŸ‘€

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but yeah hopefully it'll be ready by then

lilac saffron
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No more summer vacation for me I graduate this year

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And I don't know what I'm gonna do

lyric kestrel
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Yep I will graduate from college too

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After my summer vacation I have to join army for 4 months

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And after that I have to get a job

deft cape
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ohhh

lyric kestrel
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So hope it will drop soon XD

remote iris
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@deft cape also barch 2-4 GIGS πŸ’€

lyric kestrel
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But yeah I will be patient just take your time

remote iris
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dawg this is gonna be as big as my gmod mod collection

deft cape
remote iris
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an update will take 10 mins to download lol

deft cape
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it'll be separate so the ai stuff will rarely ever need to be updated (probably only need to touch it if oeis and i decide to switch models)

remote iris
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also u have to make the best decription since if u wanna change that ur updating lol

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yea most likely reason to update the package would actually be the readme..... 😬

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LOL

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cuz i doubt we'll change the voice recognition model unless there's a much better one in the near future

remote iris
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that's not from voice recognition though

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the improved voice activity detector is really small

remote iris
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seems my suggestion is never happening 😭

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lol its fine

deft cape
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yeah just cuz the improved voice activity detector is hella good already, sorry 😭

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the thing is like 2mb

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so it's really tiny

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just not adding it to v1 yet cuz i don't feel like rewriting stuff for it

remote iris
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i made my mic have a noise gate and the mics of my friends block enough noise plus noise suppression mod

deft cape
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each person having a noise gate would be ideal, but since it's meant to remove sound (from what i can tell at least), it wouldn't fit in mirage anyways

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since for mirage you want it to play the same audio that was recorded

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so in this case, a better voice activity detector just makes more sense

lilac saffron
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What's a noise gate?

remote iris
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which is why i add a noisesuppression also to block audio while im talking

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background audio*

deft cape
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i guess technically if i just do a filter for that db level and only record if it's higher, then that's better than the current voice activity detector for sure

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buuuuuuuuuuuuuut

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this is working really well so no point

remote iris
lilac saffron
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if i did a naive implementation that'd be so terrible

lilac saffron
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Sometimes though the things that trick me fe are the little things like the keyboard and what not