Open Body Cams

[vital steeple]

it does though, yes

also I figured out the issue, it is something incredibly stupid that I never considered (classic)

[steel saddle]

it speens

[vital steeple]

you can also make it not spin and just face the direction you are looking when you place it

[vital steeple]

turns out that when collecting the models attached to a body or mimic, I was including the camera's green flash mesh, so when it was resetting the body cam, it considered the flash to be part of the third person model and making it visible

shouldn't take long to fix now that I know the issue, thank you to everyone that helped me figure this out

[vital steeple]

it's finally fixed

Version 1.2.7

• Fixed the green transition appearing on the player's view when switching from a dead body or mimic to that player. The transition could remain visible until the target was switched again if DisableCameraWhileTargetIsOnShip was enabled.
• Allowed DisableCameraWhileTargetIsOnShip to disable body cams based on whether other targets types (corpses, masked players, and radar boosters) are on the ship.

I think there is still an issue where the green transition can freeze and stay visible in the body cam's screen in certain situations, like if the camera is switched to a player's corpse as they're being converted to a masked, but that's a bug for another day

really took way longer than I would've liked to figure out how to reproduce that issue, sorry to the people that had to deal with that in-game

[tender moth]

@vital steeple You just triggered a thought in my head. Yesterday I posted a message about players having their screen Freeze in a Large Lobby and having to restart with this mod on. Turning it off was the only way to continue. However, you just said that when you start up or reset you grab the model of the player correct?

What I was noticing is that due to lag players were joining my More Company pack as "Player#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9....." Then they were moved, their outfit was changed by the Suit Saver mod, and audio and cameras kicked in with them ideally being beside the clothes rack. However, some seemed to glitch into the wall and have to restart. This is also when their player name appeared.

This makes me think that there are a number of things happening during the Join function that are directly opposed to each other and cause errors.

Would a solution be to only render cameras after the ship has been launched. Or some other work around.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Hexnet111/SuitSaver/

[vital steeple]

What I would recommend for the moment is to enable the debug options I mentioned before, but if you want to continue playing as normal I would recommend enabling both options and keep an eye on the output console

with the second option mentioned in the section about screen freezes, they should not freeze the game, but you should see one singular error printed to the console when the screen freeze would have occurred with the first enabled as well

a player leaving and rejoining does sound interesting, I'll try to see if that's anything significant

you had mentioned you only got that problem once though, right?

[tender moth]

Repetitivly and reliably.

[vital steeple]

oh, then it you enable those options and get me logs according to the instructions in the readme, it should be an easy enough fix

[tender moth]

roger

ill host a big lobby later today in LFG and give it a test. 😄

[vital steeple]

feel free to enable the brute force option as well, even though the readme intends you not to, since as long as you can see the console you'll still see the error, just no screen freeze

[tender moth]

Would "PrintCosmeticsDebugInfo" help any or just. "BruteForcePreventFreezes, ModelDestructionDebuggingPatchEnabled"

[vital steeple]

I think the latter two should be sufficient if I'm correct

you certainly could enable all three, but the game might stutter when anyone changes targets with the former

it prints a good few stack traces which isn't cheap

it would only be one frame though

[tender moth]

Roger, I will keep "PrintCosmeticsDebugInfo" off then for stability. ill also test with and without Cameras On in ship.

[vital steeple]

oh, I forgot to mention, but the option to disable while the target is on the ship will only save you from the bug until the target leaves the ship, then without the brute force prevention it will error spam again

with that option, though, it should prevent any error spam, but if it does error spam still, that would narrow down the cause considerably I think

Ah, I forgot to reply to this before, sorry. By 120x or 100x, you mean increasing the resolution by that factor to make it more crisp?

thing is, currently OpenBodyCams just reuses the bodycam on the big monitor inside the terminal, so it's not really designed to change the resolution for the terminal

I could make it use a separate body cam, though, but currently TwoRadarMaps also does that and I'd have to make a breaking change to swap over

an alternative would be to add an option to TwoRadarMaps to allow you to set the resolution separately, since it currently just uses the OpenBodyCams setting

[vital steeple]

fyi, this should be fixed in 1.2.8

assuming that you had the transition animation disabled, anyway

if not, it may have still been the same issue I fixed, but it would've resolved itself when switching targets

the Unity animation system does some very unintuitive things when it's playing an animation with no properties it controls

made this take way too long to figure out

[knotty pelican]

you fixed it! (?)

[vital steeple]

yep!

managed to get a repro because I ended up landing, killing a bunch of local clients, swapping cameras randomly and then taking off repeatedly to see if anything weird happened

[manic cosmos]

nice!

[vital steeple]

I think the only reason I didn't notice it before was because it shows for a single frame with the camera enabled when the target is on the ship

I don't normally run that setting so I hadn't considered that it could mess with it, but it was a cause that I would've never guessed had I not gotten a repro

[manic cosmos]

a single a frame? I'm surprised you noticed it.

[vital steeple]

the commit on GitHub has more info if you're curious

some other people noticed that, I didn't

I could've noticed it if I was really paying attention, but I had to open the menu in-game a lot so it wasn't very visible

switching between 5 different games on one pc is a bit messy

[oak vault]

I'm guessing this has been suggested before, but any chance we could have the body cams monitor be a ship upgrade?

[knotty pelican]

fun lil' edge case: opening Doom when a bodycam is drawn leaves the bodycam on top of the screen 😂

[vital steeple]

hmm, which mod adds that?

but also, I think maybe there are videos in vanilla that you can play on the terminal? I don't know the commands for that though

it would probably display on top of those as well

[knotty pelican]

it's https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Cryptoc1/LC_DOOM/

[halcyon bear]

As much as I love that mod, it just conflicts with way too many things

[limpid creek]

yeah that makes sense - after all, I wouldn't really want the terminal to change, just to have a HD-er bodycam overlay in the corner it's in without making it bigger in size

it's an understandable limitation tho

[lament raft]

It also ties game speed to a fraction of your FPS. So the speed is never right unless Doom's FPS equals 35 after the divison of your real framerate by the number set in config.

They should've just locked it to 35.

[halcyon bear]

That’s so weird

[lament raft]

Especially considering that Managed Doom, which is what LC DOOM is built on, supports frame interpolation.

[grand plank]

idk if its just me but when i try to switch cams on Cosmocos moon, the game crashes

[vital steeple]

full crash to desktop?

also, that's a secret moon in wesley's moon mod right?

[idle adder]

I'll have to test it soon as well since I've had the moonpack for awhile now. Yeah it's the secret moon.

[grand plank]

yes and yes

[vital steeple]

does it behave differently when you download just the cosmocos mod?

[grand plank]

uhhh havent tried that it was with the full moons modpack

[vital steeple]

(asking because I'm not sure how to get to it if it's secret)

[grand plank]

i think many ppl know now that insym streamed it for a ton of ppl

n wesley full relased it

[vital steeple]

i'm sure they do, including you :^)

feel free to post it in a spoiler

oh nvm, it's in the moons list I guess? my impression was that it was supposed to be hidden from there

seeing if it crashes for me

[grand plank]

kk

[vital steeple]

were you in multiplayer looking at someone else's camera?

so far it's fine for me in singleplayer

[grand plank]

multiplayer looking for someone else

like i clicked it three times on the big screen n then it crashes

i also ahve these on

[vital steeple]

how many players were there? was each click a different player?

[grand plank]

6 total

including me

and yea each click was diff

[vital steeple]

ah, you have DisableCameraWhileTargetIsOnShip enabled, was everyone you selected before the crash on the ship?

[grand plank]

it would show like a huge green bar

n then crash

[vital steeple]

huge green bar on the monitors I would assume

[grand plank]

ye

[vital steeple]

ok good, I would hope that's not still showing up in your camera

hmm

[grand plank]

idk if it was also an interior thing but i had it on facility interior n poolrooms interior n they both crashed the same

[vital steeple]

could be, yeah

[grand plank]

but it was fine on other moons

[vital steeple]

there's some graphics-related segfault that happens on Budapest, I wonder if this could be similar

must be a lot less bad on this map though, since I didn't insta crash on landing

you might be able to find a .dmp file, I think it would be in your temp folder

[grand plank]

does that reset if i reopened the game

😭

[vital steeple]

if you type %temp%\ZeekerssRBLX\Lethal Company\Crashes into your Explorer

I don't believe so, I have a couple crashes from a while back

[grand plank]

kk

yea i have 2 folders

from the 2 crashes

[vital steeple]

if you get the latest one maybe I can WinDbg it

[grand plank]

do i just post it here?

[vital steeple]

sure

should only contain game memory

[grand plank]

oh it said invald file type

want me to dm?

[vital steeple]

discord did?

[grand plank]

ye

[vital steeple]

weird

you can try

you can also probably zip it up

[grand plank]

oo ok

[vital steeple]

it might just be a file extension filter or something silly like that

[vital steeple]

ah, yep, same stack trace as Budapest had

[grand plank]

ooo

[vital steeple]

I'm really not sure what causes it, but I think it's more an issue with the map than anything

my completely untested theory is that two cameras rendering the map in full detail causes the engine to fail somewhere related to shadows, perhaps because of the density of shadow casters or something

0000000b`a66ba270 00007ffb`7df6b561     : 000001d6`61f94420 000001d6`61f80850 000001d5`5f5ead30 0000000b`a66dbc80 : UnityPlayer!SendShadowCullingCallbacks+0x295
0000000b`a66ba690 00007ffb`7df70e12     : 000001d5`b000c2b0 000001d5`b000c2b0 0000000b`a66de420 00000000`00000001 : UnityPlayer!PrepareDrawShadowsCommandStep1+0x261
0000000b`a66ba970 000001d9`5d90a48a     : 0000000b`a66dbd00 00000000`00000001 000001d5`50d08290 00000000`00000001 : UnityPlayer!ScriptableRenderContext::ExecuteScriptableRenderLoop+0x242

this is the top of the stack trace for reference

but the main point is that this is an engine bug, it definitely shouldn't be able to cause an access violation

maybe I ought to dig into ghidra or something to figure out why

[tender moth]

@vital steeple Oh hey! You found the bug. Rock on! Tyvm!

"Fixed a freeze/error spam that would occur if MoreCompany encountered an error while syncing cosmetics."

[vital steeple]

finally had a good play session and my debugging tools caught the issue

[tender moth]

it was annoyingly intermitent.

[vital steeple]

yeah, it's odd that it wasn't happening consistently, I've seen the error joining so many times

MoreCompany seems to be a bit of a mess right now though, unfortunately

[tender moth]

It is probably one of those perfect cases of 3 or 4 things happening at the exact same time but... only sometimes...

[vital steeple]

perhaps, yeah

from looking at the code, though, it should've been happening pretty much 100% to my understanding

anyway, if it's fixed it's fixed

here's hoping there wasn't something else going on too

[tender moth]

Well thats the joy of process of elimination. You got this one. There will always be a new target to shoot at. 😛

[dense dune]

@vital steeple I swear I'm always seeing MoreCompany issues

XD

[vital steeple]

lol yeah

also thanks for showing me that, I guess I brain farted typing the header for that version lol

[dense dune]

@vital steeple new update for OpenBodyCams has a bug that sometimes causes a black screen when loading a save

[ember ingot]

for the host*

[vital steeple]

curious, I was playing on the latest version earlier and I didn't encounter that

is it a screen freeze where if you turn away from the screen it goes back to normal?

[dense dune]

No like I literally load in and can't see anything

Only happens with 1.2.9

Ofc when i tried to get an error in the console the game loaded as normal

LOL

[dense dune]

I will say I don't use MoreCompany so I don't need the fix 1.2.9 has anyways

[vital steeple]

yeah, I can't do much about the bug without a way to reproduce though

got a profile code or a specific conflict for me to look into?

neither I nor any of my friends had any such issue, so it was probably something on your end

[vital steeple]

did you encounter the issue as well? any ideas of the cause?

[dense dune]

@vital steeple perhaps it's related to the DisableCameraWhileTargetIsOnShip option? I loaded into a save I made several times on stream and reproduced that black screen nearly every time

As soon as I downgraded to 1.2.8 I could load it multiple times

and it was fine

Super odd

[vital steeple]

hmm, possible

I'll check

[ember ingot]

was playing with lunxara lol, when she got into her save her screen was black completely while when i joined i could still see her and move around normally

[vital steeple]

oh I see

[dense dune]

I will say it doesn't happen when creating a save

It only happens when loading into one already made

[vital steeple]

no such luck here, seem to be fine with that option on

[dense dune]

I will say I have FOV_Adjust to disable the visor and LCUltrawide

Maybe a conflict?

That wasn't there before? 🤔

[vital steeple]

I was running LCUltrawide as well, but as far as FOV_Adjust, not sure

I wouldn't really think so but you never know

[dense dune]

I'll see if I can reproduce it cus now it's not wanting to for me either

Hate that

Cus I had it happen back to back to back before

Lol

Okay had it happen again

it still refuses to do it while the console is open which makes no sense

[dense dune]

It seems to just be really random whether it wants to do it or not at this point

[vital steeple]

if you have error logging enabled, I'm curious if anything is showing up there

it seems like there has to be

[dense dune]

Everytime I turn on logging it doesn't wanna do it lol that's the thing

It's spiting me

XD

[dense dune]

@vital steeple I got it!!!

[Warning: Unity Log] BoxColliders does not support negative scale or size.
The effective box size has been forced positive and is likely to give unexpected collision geometry.
If you absolutely need to use negative scaling you can use the convex MeshCollider. Scene hierarchy path "Environment/HangarShip/StorageCloset/Cube.000/Cube"
[Error : HarmonyX] Error while running static void LethalNetworkAPI.Networking.NetworkObjectManager::OnDisconnect(). Error: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at LethalNetworkAPI.Networking.NetworkObjectManager.OnDisconnect () [0x00000] in ./Networking/NetworkManager.cs:60
at (wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMDStartOfRound::OnDisable(StartOfRound)
[Error : Unity Log] Releasing render texture that is set as Camera.targetTexture!
[Error : Unity Log] Releasing render texture that is set as Camera.targetTexture!

The 2 errors at the end I believe are regarding the cause

[ember ingot]

congrats

[dense dune]

Yeah it took way too long to reproduce with logging on

LOL

What a bitch

The game was like "Oh you enabled logging okay I'mma work nao"

XD

@vital steeple Got another one

[Error :OpenBodyCams] Attempted to create a body cam before static initialization has been completed.
[Error :OpenBodyCams] This may occur if the save is corrupted, or if a mod caused an error during the start of the game.

That was in the log too

[vital steeple]

the releasing a render texture may make sense, that sounds like a mod conflict though

there's no case in which OpenBodyCams does that on its own

in other words, a full log and profile code may let me figure this out

[dense dune]

018de420-bac2-fe68-dbae-3120bd7fc070

Idk what could be conflicting with it I never had this happen until today after the 1.2.9 update 🤔

[vital steeple]

it's also possible that the warnings about render textures come from LCUltraWide

it does release the render texture that the gameplay camera is rendered to

[dense dune]

True

[vital steeple]

looks like this error was correct, you had something go wrong in LethalLib while loading the save file

if you want to send me the problematic save file I may be able to prevent that black screen from happening tomorrow

assuming it's reproducible

[compact plaza]

i love this mod and generalimporvements to make my ship security even tighter

[dense dune]

It should be I had it happen as soon as I loaded into it

[vital steeple]

<@&1173795317469159444> sorry for ping, but maybe you could use a break from the drama to pin some posts:
#1199570032196333648 message
#1199570032196333648 message

(had just scrolled up to find an old message and figured I'd copy these while I'm there)

[manic cosmos]

This pls ⤴️

[ember ingot]

I'm confused

They're pinned

[silk quest]

can confirm

[ember ingot]

It was pinned a while back even lol

[vital steeple]

a while back as in before I posted that? I think I checked just a few hours before I posted that at the latest

but yeah, they were pinned shortly after at the very least

appreciate it either way

[vital steeple]

I'm not sure if this is the actual save file or some auxiliary data, normally the save files would be named something like LCSaveFile[number], but I'll see if I get anything without the save

hmm, loading into one of my existing saves on your profile seems fine

(and I did ensure that AC is there)

[dense dune]

@vital steeple may have actually been an issue with AC specifically before after redoing my mod pack I can't reproduce it lol

[vital steeple]

hmm

would be nice to know the cause regardless of the state of AC, but if you've already loaded and saved over those files it probably is too late

[dense dune]

Nvm had an issue just now where the screen went black while spectating

and when someone left it fixed but I could see my own cosmetics in first person

[dense dune]

log btw

it said it reset the camera or something like that

[vital steeple]

were you spectating a player while they were on the ship?

[dense dune]

Yeah

it glitched all out then the screen went black

[vital steeple]

ah, I think I know the reason, it was probably watching a corpse or mimic before it got deleted

actually, my theory may be unlikely

not sure what else would cause these stack traces though, so I'll push out an update and see if it helps

going out now as 1.2.10

build number in the version has reached double digits again, I gotta put out a new feature before things get outta hand

completely unrelated and purely theoretical, what price do you think body cams would be worth as an unlockable?

[severe harbor]

I find them more novel than useful generally, so not overly expensive. Somewhere above 400 below 900 imo?

[steel saddle]

its not game breaking but it would help the ship operator know if youre dead or not
but yeah it should be good to be around or less than the teleporter/inverse

its under ship upgrades no

[vital steeple]

not sure I understand the question, but yeah, I'm thinking of making it into one

[vital steeple]

I'm kinda surprised you went so high lol, but I guess for longer runs 400 isn't that much
you think it shouldn't be a bit lower than 400 though? I don't want it to take too too long for people to unlock by default

(but also this would be off by default to retain the usual user experience people expect from body cam mods)

[severe harbor]

Maybe lower is fine, my opinion might be invalid cause I might be used to playing with higher scrap values cause my group gets bored quickly

[vital steeple]

ohh, I see

[severe harbor]

250 sounds decent? Around Signal Transmitter?

[vital steeple]

yeah, that seems fair to me

body cams become more useful in combination with signal transmitter anyway

[severe harbor]

True

[vital steeple]

would be interested to hear more perspectives before I decide on a value for sure, but that seems like a decent starting point

[severe harbor]

Yea ofc

[steel saddle]

OBC should fall into ship upgrades category so im putting the value based on other stuff in there

[vital steeple]

right, yeah

it would be unlockable rather than an equippable, I'm not trying to add equipment at this point

it should be possible to use the functionality in another mod to do so too

[dense dune]

Okay I'll see if it fixes it

[dense dune]

@vital steeple had my screen randomly go black while standing in the ship, asking a friend to switch the camera fixed it but then I was seeing my own cosmetics, is something going on with MoreCompany compatibility still?

[vital steeple]

hmm, I wouldn't have thought so, but it's possible

you should enable the diagnostic option and get logs

that should point out the issue

at least if it's causing the error spam like that other log showed

[dense dune]

I could probably send you my current mod pack if you need @vital steeple

018de8b4-44ce-9311-29d5-63b84b3e70d1 there

[vital steeple]

thanks, yeah, that doesn't hurt

the fact it was happening with the previous one is curious though, so I wonder if it may not be a compat issue and I'm not sure what would be going on

the other one might've been a different issue if the log spam isn't happening in these instances

[bold dragon]

i think 200-300 would be fine for an otherwise Vanilla profile. But the price should be overridable by config for modpack creators imo. So I don't think you have to worry too much about balancing it ig

[vital steeple]

oh sure, it'll definitely be customizable

I've added options for almost everything else lol

main thing is to ensure that it has a sane default so that the majority of people don't have to change it

I put in some of the defaults for the camera settings without much thought, and I think some of them are a bit conservative

[bold dragon]

I think it's a difficult call. I know some people who think bodycam should (or even is) vanilla and others that think it's insanely overpowered for the ship guy and makes comms obsolete.

are you referring to the quality settings?

[vital steeple]

yeah, especially the far plane distance and resolution

[vital steeple]

true, yeah, the default will be that it will just be available by default though, so that shouldn't be a big problem

[bold dragon]

at least for res I'd argue it fits the vanilla game res tbh.
You'd set render distance higher now..? I never tinkered with that.. Maybe I should 🤔

[vital steeple]

from my experience, the far plane distance doesn't really have much effect on performance, so yeah, to avoid the line of geometry appearing too visibly I would have liked to raise it

my usual value is 50, but I could probably do higher than that

[burnt moth]

Hey Zaggy! It looks like the change for the radar booster also applies to the teleport, if it's inverse teleported out of the ship and into the dungeon it doesn't have a camera, I like to do a bit of scouting with it to see what dungeon we have and what equipment to bring

Some dungeons are really hard to tell apart from tiles in the overhead camera, LC_Office and Dantor's mental hospital are surprisingly similar

so the little cam helps distinguish

[vital steeple]

wait, which change to the radar booster do you mean?

and I assume this is with enhanced radar booster?

[burnt moth]

Yeah it was the change to disable the radar booster camera whilst on the ship, enhanced radar booster allows you to Inverse Teleport the booster into the facility and when doing so the camera doesn't turn back on 😅

[vital steeple]

hmm, that sounds like an enhanced radar booster bug then

it should be checking whether to enable it every frame, so that would indicate that they're not setting the appropriate flag to indicate that it's inside the facility

I wonder if it's even enabled once it's teleported, though, because when teleporting radar boosters back with that mod it entered some confused state where it was disabled but still thought it was in use

[empty heart]

darmuhsterminalstuff causes the shorthand tp command to not work, even if i disable the tp command in darmuh's config
activate teleporter command still works though

[knotty pelican]

got a cam lockup/screen freeze when returning to ship with some AdvCompany shoes that were unequipped/effect ended 🥲

[latent heron]

I'm having fps drop when i close the ship door with this mod

[vital steeple]

have you confirmed that it's this mod causing it and not in combination with another mod?

[vital steeple]

I'll take a look later, but I'm guessing that means that disabling the command doesn't actually remove the keyword

[latent heron]

No, i just installed it and noticed that, i'll investigate more. Is there a mod that is known to having this issue with OBC ?

[vital steeple]

I don't know for sure, but I feel like I've noticed something similar with GI installed, but I haven't had a chance to look into it

it may be that our patches to fix issues with cameras switching off are conflicting

[latent heron]

I have GI, i'll try disabling it

[vital steeple]

wait where's the rest of the log? :( that error only tells me that one of the cosmetic references was destroyed

if you can reproduce with the diagnostic option enabled and get a full log, though, that would be very helpful

[latent heron]

Yep without GI fps doesn't change when i close the door

[vital steeple]

interesting, okay

can you tell if the fps feels worse even when you're facing the screens?

[latent heron]

you mean with open door ?

or closed ?

[vital steeple]

closed door

@empty heart I'm guessing this line is the issue: https://github.com/darmuh/TerminalStuff/blob/ba32ea8017e1c00ea8f7a4e1a5675e2aa0b39bd5/DarmuhsTerminalCommands/MyTerminalPatcher.cs#L271

it shouldn't be removing keywords unless they were added by the mod in the first place

last I heard, darmuh was refactoring a lot of code, so I don't know if a fix will come anytime soon

[latent heron]

GI = outside:69~ inside (facing screen): 55~ close to screen: 50~ door closed: 42~ door closed(close to screen): 40~
No GI = outside:70~ inside (facing screen): 51~ close to screen: 50~ door closed: 58~ door closed(close to screen): 50~

some numbers are kinda wierd 🤔

inside (facing screen): 51~ this one is really low without GI while the rest is better

[vital steeple]

yeah, fps being low while facing the screens is normal

what I'm concerned about is when you're facing away, although the fact that you're getting 40 vs 50 with the door closed facing the screens seems suspicious

unless GI is putting the external cam on your screens?

[latent heron]

yeah but there was a difference with and without i was close to the door but inside the ship

[latent heron]

it's a repercussion of the closed door fps impact i think

it's at 42 when i face the buttons

and a bit less looking the screen not that much tho

[latent heron]

it does

[vital steeple]

were any of those tests while you were facing the closed door?

directly away from the screens?

[latent heron]

not directly facing the door

[vital steeple]

would be worth testing that, since adding the external cam adds extra load while facing the screens

[latent heron]

facing the the door buttons is "door closed"

No GI facing the closed door is around the same as outside

[vital steeple]

oh I see, hmm

[latent heron]

i'm testing with GI now 2 sec

[vital steeple]

could you send a profile code? I want to check whether the cameras are disabling correctly with your config

it seems to be fine with my testing config

[latent heron]

I don't have a profile code i install manually :/

[vital steeple]

then maybe just the configs for both mods

can hope the problem is isolated to them

[latent heron]

can send you a modlist i'm on a middle of mods fps testing so not all of them are here currently

ok sending configs

With GI facing door closed is 47

so a bit higher

[vital steeple]

wow, it was the configs

hold on, lemme check what's going on

I think it probably has something to do with setting an fps limit

not sure why the doors trigger it though

this for sure doesn't happen unless OpenBodyCams is installed?

[latent heron]

Yes

the door is fine with GI alone

[vital steeple]

very odd, okay

[latent heron]

looks fine with OBC alone too

[vital steeple]

no it is definitely all on GeneralImprovements side

I just tested without OpenBodyCams and it dropped my framerate by half

but I know the cause

[latent heron]

Oh

Okok

Will you talk about it with GI's modder ?

[vital steeple]

yeah, in a minute, just confirming my suspicion

[latent heron]

Ok, Thanks a lot !

[vital steeple]

yeah confirmed

if you want to avoid that frame drop you have to take the door power monitor off

[latent heron]

I also have another bug between these 2 mods but thought it was on GI's side so i asked it there, it's the disable post processing on the external cam that doesn't disable it

[latent heron]

Oh i see nice finding

i'll take it off for now thank you

[vital steeple]

not sure exactly what would cause that, since you can definitely still find that camera with me removing its texture from the main monitors

perhaps the reason is because it's trying to avoid modifying it if another bodycam mod that doesn't create a new camera is installed? idk

I wouldn't think it's anything I need to change on my side really

[latent heron]

Yeah i thout it was on GI side haha

I was using helmet camera before and it was working correctly tho

[vital steeple]

oh, that's curious

it might be something to do with when I replace the texture vs when helmet cameras does

[knotty pelican]

the log was 300+ mb and didn't have anything of value, you don't want that log 🙃

either way, here's a shorter repro log with enhanced OBC logs... it's fully reproducible, just return to the ship with the "light shoes" item with OBC enabled

[vital steeple]

lemme test a fix real quick

do I just need to enter the ship for the curse to wear off?

also, how do I get the shoes?

[knotty pelican]

yeah the error gets thrown as you enter the ship and the curse wears off, it seems

[vital steeple]

ah wait, I found them in the dev menu

[knotty pelican]

they're an AdvCompany item, I jacked up the spawn rate to 99999 on experimentation

they were the only thing I saw

I tested the Bunny Ears (another cursed item) and those seemed fine, fwiw

[vital steeple]

oh wait, I guess what I found may be a diff thing, lemme see if I can find that

would that be under the "Items" menu? and what would the name be? I did a scan of that earlier and didn't see anything

[knotty pelican]

if you didn't have the mod already installed, make sure to join a lobby and leave so the item list updates

they should just be "light shoes"

[vital steeple]

oh huh

[dense dune]

Btw @vital steeple Just wanna state I finally added TwoRadarMaps recently and gave it a try and I love it lol, especially the fact it makes the radar hd XD

[vital steeple]

@knotty pelican I have the latest version installed and I'm getting a null deref in the LiftCurse function, so I think maybe you should test if this fixes the issue on your end:

[vital steeple]

oh wait does it? do you mean the texture filtering option?

[dense dune]

Yeah I think so, I changed it to be Trilinear like with OpenBodyCams but even when it was set to Point I noticed the quality of the radar looks way nicer lol

[vital steeple]

oh that's curious

maybe I should compare, I wonder if there are some other texture settings that aren't transferred correctly

obviously whatever they may be can be options lol

[dense dune]

It could be it's using the texture resolution from OBC, I did set that to 320 XD

It looks good though

[vital steeple]

nah, it just uses the same resolution as the vanilla map

you don't have the FixResolution mod do you?

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/nodelll/kruumys_FixResolution/

I would kinda assume not, but this mod does override literally every camera's resolution in the entire game

[knotty pelican]

error is still there, and that version of OBC has added TONS of retroarch stuff to the install

🙃

[manic cosmos]

Maybe LCUltrawide? set to a higher res?

[vital steeple]

huh???

[knotty pelican]

I'm still getting the same error from returning to ship with light shoes, and booting that OBC copies a retroarch folder into my plugin folder

no idea what's going on with the version you linked me

[vital steeple]

no that doesn't exhibit the same issue

[manic cosmos]

I see I'm curious now lol

[vital steeple]

I've got zero clue how that happened, all I did was add one hook to the AC compat class

does it come back if you delete it?

[knotty pelican]

I deleted it and reverted to the stable OBC and it didn't come back

hadn't tried the one you linked again since it didn't fix the issue

but i'll try one more time

[vital steeple]

and when you say you get the same error, you mean your screen freezes? because it's worth noting that the diagnostic option will cause it to print a warning even if the cosmetic destruction won't cause issues

if it happens again, could you send a new log file my way?

[knotty pelican]

it didn't do the retroarch thing this time (literally no idea what that was), but it's still locking up at the ship with shoes, yeah

[vital steeple]

ohh, I forgot about Unity's quirkiness, hold on

also I didn't actually notice, but your logs also have the null deref in the AC code, apparently it doesn't check whether the shoe actually has an audio source before trying to play a sound

[knotty pelican]

oh, lemme look, I only saw OBC stuff but I probably missed something

will report that one to AC if I can find it

talkinga bout this? [Error :OpenBodyCams] AdvancedCompany encountered an error in a coroutine: [Error :OpenBodyCams] System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at AdvancedCompany.Objects.LightShoeRGB+<LiftCurse>d__9.MoveNext () [0x00070] in G:\Unity\AdvancedCompany\UpgradeCompany\Objects\LightShoeRGB.cs:51 at OpenBodyCams.Compatibility.AdvancedCompanyCompatibility+<UpdateCosmeticsAfterCoroutine>d__5.MoveNext () [0x00018] in <9f04fb7513b849c6ba212432f28fa05a>:IL_0018 ?

[vital steeple]

all it does is prevent one of the shoe lights from being destroyed, it shouldn't really prevent me from doing what I need

yeah, but hold on

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
AdvancedCompany.Objects.LightShoeRGB+<LiftCurse>d__9.MoveNext () (at G:/Unity/AdvancedCompany/UpgradeCompany/Objects/LightShoeRGB.cs:51)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)
UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine(IEnumerator)
AdvancedCompany.Objects.LightShoeRGB:CurseLifted() (at G:/Unity/AdvancedCompany/UpgradeCompany/Objects/LightShoeRGB.cs:42)
AdvancedCompany.Objects.LightShoes:Update() (at G:/Unity/AdvancedCompany/UpgradeCompany/Objects/LightShoes.cs:138)

use this one, I don't need it to mention my mod lmao

that's what it was in the logs you provided before my compat patch

[dense dune]

I will notice btw for whatever reason

OpenBodyCams stopped glitching in my pack when I reenabled AC Cosmetics compatibility even though I no longer use AC after everything that happened

LOL

[vital steeple]

[dense dune]

My thoughts eaxactly

[vital steeple]

it shouldn't have any effect without it installed

[dense dune]

XD

[vital steeple]

perhaps a coincidence?

[dense dune]

Probably

It could have been some wild conflict before that we got rid of

[vital steeple]

@knotty pelican pushed out an update that fixes that issue in 1.2.11

I took a look through the other items and didn't see any others that destroy themselves unexpectedly, thankfully

[dense dune]

I will say the one thing I did as of note when it stopped glitching was the move from LateCompany to LobbyControl

So maybe LateCompany caused problems

[vital steeple]

could have been errors loading saves then maybe? hard to say

[dense dune]

I doubt it cus it happened during gameplay

It's really hard to say what it was

Lol

[vital steeple]

oh, I thought you were referring to the black screen at load

[dense dune]

I will say with all certainty the issue with the screen going black on loading a save was a bug when using it with AC

Cus that stopped after I got rid of it

[vital steeple]

hmm

that's strange

[dense dune]

Probably a bug on AC's end after the 1.1.2 update tbh

[vital steeple]

I haven't tested extensively with it but I haven't seen that happen when I did

even today on the latest

[dense dune]

Cus I remember 1.1.2 also caused network delays and high ping for clients

[vital steeple]

interesting

well, I guess NotSoEvilDead will probably see if there are any more issues between the two

I've never used it outside testing so I'm just glad I haven't heard about too many issues

[dense dune]

Which was stated to be fixed in 1.1.3, but by that point all the drama and stuff was going down and once the 1.1.4 update came that dropped LLL support I just got rid of it

I'm over the drama at this point though, I usually am after a couple days for most things I don't like to dwell on stuff

[vital steeple]

yeah

I'm not happy about it but it is what it is

[dense dune]

Yeah

[halcyon bear]

I have a quick question. Are the body cams supposed to have a green tint to them on the monitor? I’ve been using this mod for a while and it’s always been green, but someone is telling me that it’s not supposed to be green so now I’m confused

[lament raft]

That's how all cameras look by default. Even without mods.

[halcyon bear]

Ok that’s what I thought

[bold dragon]

defo not an incompatibility between OBC and AC on any version 1.1.2 or going forward.

in another thread someone mentioned limiting fps not being lower performance anymore.. is that true? Recommendations used to be to not limit it for performance but I actually prefer the lower fps feel for cams

[vital steeple]

perhaps they're used to having the emission option set to zero or some gray color?

[halcyon bear]

They said theirs was set to default 🤷‍♂️

I knew they had to be wrong but I’m very curious as to what they did to their game to make it not be green without changing the emissive color

[vital steeple]

it will still lower the frame rate, but there is a method that I may be able to get working to allow it to work without a penalty

the problem is that it can cause flickering, although that's already present but less noticable I think

I have to do a bunch of investigating to find out why it does that

[vital steeple]

it shouldn't be possible for it to not be green without changing the emission color

not sure how they managed that

[halcyon bear]

Yea that’s what confused me

[bold dragon]

oh yea I actually remember you talking about that. So my info is still up to date 🙂 Thanks!

and good luck on investigating that issue!

[dense dune]

@dawn glade

018dfd32-1d5d-1a35-217c-a3e176f0ba92 Mod pack code

[dawn glade]

[Warning:Starlancer AI Fix] Found and removed 36 null MeshRenderers in MaskedPlayerEnemy(Clone) (6) to prevent potential null reference exceptions.
[Warning:Starlancer AI Fix] Found and removed 18 null MeshRenderers in MaskedPlayerEnemy(Clone) (5) to prevent potential null reference exceptions.
[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
OpenBodyCams.BodyCamComponent.ResetCameraRendering () (at <fed76bf13cbe4a0fbfe0a5036cbf37d3>:IL_0086)
OpenBodyCams.BodyCamComponent.EndAnyCameraRendering (UnityEngine.Rendering.ScriptableRenderContext context, UnityEngine.Camera camera) <0x2b63486f4a0 + 0x00052> in <fed76bf13cbe4a0fbfe0a5036cbf37d3>:IL_FFFFFFFF
UnityEngine.Rendering.RenderPipelineManager.EndCameraRendering (UnityEngine.Rendering.ScriptableRenderContext context, UnityEngine.Camera camera) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_000A)
UnityEngine.Rendering.RenderPipeline.EndCameraRendering (UnityEngine.Rendering.ScriptableRenderContext context, UnityEngine.Camera camera) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0001)
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipeline.Render (UnityEngine.Rendering.ScriptableRenderContext renderContext, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] cameras) (at <b8abf62aeac646cea5c5cde032ff9314>:IL_04F1)
UnityEngine.Rendering.RenderPipeline.InternalRender (UnityEngine.Rendering.ScriptableRenderContext context, System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] cameras) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_001C)
UnityEngine.Rendering.RenderPipelineManager.DoRenderLoop_Internal (UnityEngine.Rendering.RenderPipelineAsset pipe, System.IntPtr loopPtr, UnityEngine.Object renderRequest) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0046)

Might be a compatibility thing with Starlancer Mod. Everyone's camera completely froze (probably Starlancer deleting the camera for some reason..?) as soon a mimic (Specifically a player turned into a mimic) leaves/enters the facility (Probably where starlancer does its thing).

Might aswell just be starlancer's fault to begin with.

[vital steeple]

heh, that hook is coming in handy I guess

I think the issue here is that two mods (MaskedEnemyOverhaul and MoreCompany) are deleting cosmetics from the masked enemies, I'll have to hook into a few MoreCompany methods so that I can update those

[dawn glade]

[devout lance]

Best mod! It's perfect!

[vital steeple]

thanks!

[vital steeple]

looks like this is turning out to be way more of a pain than I thought it would be, whatever is destroying these models is doing so in a way that I can't keep it from erroring

[dawn glade]

[dense dune]

There's an option we can toggle until the fix is pushed in the config

But it may cause a performance hit for some

I toggled it

[steel saddle]

@vital steeple my whole game halted except for the audio

other player in the same lobby experience the same too

[steel saddle]

oh yeah same thing happened to me

[vital steeple]

well, after rewriting a bunch of code (it was worth it though, this system is much better than the previous one) it's actually able to prevent the masked enemy objects from exploding everything

still not sure why it wasn't working before, but hey, at least it got me to write some better code

I'm gonna just chalk it up to Unity's system for destroying objects being incredibly stupid

gonna take a while for me to test everything, since this changes how all target status changes are handled

I also have to make this a minor release, so unfortunately my idea of the next minor release including the unlockable option is not gonna happen until next one at the earliest

[devout lance]

Ahh ohhh neat. Hey careful if you do add bodycams as a shop item because shop item desync against host can bring about some issues. You might buy the wrong thing I assume because they're a dynamic list rather than deterministic. BodyCams are very powerful I can see why you would want to make them unlock limited and that would reduce people complaining that they're cheaty.

So just to be clear because I've never tested it you're getting cams on masked fromer friends working? So cool.

[lament raft]

I don't think body cams are "very powerful" considering that using terminal for watching over radar is better.

[vital steeple]

it has been working, it just has issues alongside MoreCompany and MaskedEnemyOverhaul currently that I'm resolving

[vital steeple]

you get the best of both worlds if you use the PiP :^)

[lament raft]

Which is off by default, and for a good reason. Keeps monitor/terminal balanced.

[devout lance]

Oh heh heh heh I also use Touchscreen and TwoRadarMaps

[dense dune]

TwoRadarMaps is amazing, especially after moving away from AC, it fixes the vanilla radar desyncs from late join mods

[lament raft]

Touchscreen deserves being an upgrade even more than body cams.

[dense dune]

On top of providing QOL features

All of zaggy's mods are essential honestly

Prove me wrong XD

[lament raft]

Bodycams aren't. More of a preference.

[silk quest]

no... its ESSENTIAL

you actually explode if you dont have it installed

[vital steeple]

well, an attempt was made to upload version 1.3.0 to Thunderstore, but the server didn't respond with whether it succeeded so I'll have to wait a bit to see if I need to troubleshoot with the janitors

[dense dune]

Thunderstore has been having a bit of problems

[vital steeple]

oh, the version shows up on the changelog for me but not the main page

hopefully it didn't get borked

[dense dune]

Well worst case you reupload

Lol

[vital steeple]

that would make sense lol I had to make 3 attempts before it said I already uploaded it

[lament raft]

It's up for me.

[vital steeple]

oh nice

ah yeah, now I see it

nice

gonna need this version put through its paces, it's possible it'll introduce new issues with cosmetics/equipment/models

I'm hoping that it will have only fixed them though

[grand plank]

soooo does anyone know if turning this off fixes the crash on the Cosmocos moon

[vital steeple]

turning that off would probably cause it to crash sooner

the thing is, the same crash to desktop has happened with Budapest as well, so I think there must be something in common between the two that causes issues

I think I had heard that Budapest can crash even without OpenBodyCams but that OpenBodyCams makes it happen more often, and I wonder if that's also the case for Cosmocos

I get the feeling that the issue isn't on OpenBodyCams' side at least based on that, but I may be wrong

[prisma creek]

so many updates ahah

i think budafest also recommends that to be disabled when target is on ship

[vital steeple]

right yeah

it did prove to help there a bit, although I would imagine it's still crash-prone

[prisma creek]

well i also disabled that for a different reason

cuz its hard to monitor people when you have more than 8

specially when they start to go back to the ship

at least we can see who is in the ship and who is still out quickly

[vital steeple]

oh yeah, that's true, I hadn't thought of using it as an indicator for that

[devout lance]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Coppertiel/MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork/ ?
There are claims the original is abandoned, modder left the discord

[vital steeple]

yeah, I'm referring to the fork

although I think the same issue would occur with either

[lament raft]

Could TargetTransitionAnimation be extended to turning radar on and off?

[bold dragon]

Is there a bug/incompat where every time you land the camera is turned off or displaying a black screen until monitors are toggled off/on once?
I'm using the option where it turns off when the target is on ship and with enhancedRadarBooster installed if that matters.

I mean it's a minor issue but I haven't encountered that when I started using OBC I'm pretty sure

[vital steeple]

if you mean showing the animation when turning it off and on, that's tricky because the screen turning off is purely a visual on the screen, so the animation wouldn't really be able to finish fully without showing the cam again

[vital steeple]

that may be a new issue in 1.3 if you're in that, I'll check

[bold dragon]

Hmm, not sure but I think it was already happening in prior versions.

[vital steeple]

hmm, curious

so the way to reproduce this would be for me to turn that option on, get two clients in a game, land the ship, then switch to a player and make them leave the ship?

and in that case the screen doesn't turn on?

[bold dragon]

yup, that's pretty much what I'm observing. It will only turn on after turning all monitors off and on again using the red button.

[vital steeple]

it does work on my end, that's odd

I wouldn't think there would really be any possibility of conflicts with that feature, but I wonder if some other mod is somehow doing that

it may also be some combination of config options, so if you're able to either send me a profile code or narrow down the cause between config and mod conflicts, that would be helpful

[bold dragon]

018e0678-5a2b-c9fc-8474-942f1fc250f6
Beware that log is from a 90min session. I already removed like 60k lines of loaforc soundapi debug for all our sanity. I don't see anything other than OBC's info log about cosmetics tho

[empty heart]

i also have this issue, no clue what's causing it tho

[dense dune]

He was still in here just a couple of days ago ;~;

Kind of sad to see HomelessGinger left

[devout lance]

The torch must be lifted and carried by the next hero. Who will it be.

[dense dune]

Coppertiel has the fork

[devout lance]

Oh right I was mixed up though another one left heh.

[dense dune]

@vital steeple just wanna state we had no issues tn using the new version of OpenBodyCams 🙂

[vital steeple]

nice! glad to hear it

I was hoping nothing new would surface, we'll see if something sneaky comes up but I feel like with the lack of reports it's probably solid

[dense dune]

Yeah!!! 🙂

[dense dune]

@vital steeple loaded into a new save and couldn't see anything but the sky from Ship Windows, and this error got thrown

Seems like some conflict with Diversity happened somehow?

Lol

@dawn glade Can you make this error out?

[dawn glade]

Oh it has nothing to do with Diversity. Those errors shows up on loading a save.

[dense dune]

and the save corrupted too yay XD

Oh I think I see what happened

[dawn glade]

Looks like it tried to create an object/prefab (Guessing it's the camera) before the actual object gets to load or assigned and it tries to create it but it's not loaded yet.

My best guess

[lament geyser]

I'm semi new with GeneralImprovements so was anyone here familiar with if it conflicts with OpenBodyCam or should it be fine?

[vital steeple]

the error message is one my mod prints if a static method fails to be called when an early method at the start of the game fails to run

[vital steeple]

when you see that error, you need to look earlier in the log, that unfortunately tells me nothing about what happened

there was probably an error from another mod during StartOfRound.Start

[vital steeple]

it explicitly supports GeneralImprovements, check out the readme

[lament geyser]

Me when I'm blind (thank you tho)

[ruby sierra]

Question @vital steeple

Is there better performance / issues when using 0 (native) fps and something like 12-30 set fps for the camera

[lament raft]

0 is default and always been better so far.

[ruby sierra]

So you get worse performance limiting the monitors fps

[lament raft]

Yes.

[vital steeple]

you can potentially get better average frame rates by lowering the limit below 30, but it also makes your frame times very inconsistent which can also feel like worse performance

it's something you'll just have to test really

[lament raft]

You can see that effect on Office cameras by the elevator.

[vital steeple]

indeed

[lament raft]

Frametime graph becomes all spiky. Doesn't feel good even with VRR.

[vital steeple]

it's worse there since there are two cameras that start their frame timers at the same time

[lament raft]

Ah.

[ruby sierra]

I love office

its so buggy

[vital steeple]

yeah, I've been wanting to run it consistently for a while, it's really cool

[dense dune]

Yeah I figured out what the problem was and fixed it lmao

[vital steeple]

I see, that's good

[dense dune]

Yes ^^

[dense dune]

@vital steeple so I hit a snare flea with a shovel in solo and then it vanished, then started spamming this error, is that something that needs fixed with PathfindingAI fix?

Cus I just watched the log start scrolling that error after and I had to quit out of the game to see where it started XD

[severe harbor]

As far as I know there isn't a fix for the issue, but the lag caused by it is nullified by PathfindingLagFix

[vital steeple]

yeah, I could implement a fix to prevent it from spamming the logs with PathfindingLagFix, but I'm currently busy with other things

it's really not a problem though

except that it's annoying and perhaps reduces fps slightly

[vital steeple]

Discord is out here hiding my own thread from me, wow

get necro'd

(mod is not dead, but I've been quite preoccupied)

[lament raft]

Yeah, they disappear when there hasn't been any activity for a couple of days. Stupid.

[compact plaza]

i really hate that feature because it just makes it harder to find it and forum search is case sensitive and you need to have EVERY exact letter capital or not to find it

[steel saddle]

with and without tworadarmaps
is it possible to hide the monitoring while in orbit ?
its kinda distracting cuz others cant see the moon name

[lament raft]

Is a bug.

[keen tulip]

do you have Diversity installed by chance?

because there's a conflict between Tworadarmaps and Diversity's bracken room config option that causes that

[lament raft]

I have that off and it's still like that.

[keen tulip]

oh really? turning mine off fixed it

[lament raft]

I have Bracken Rework off, which should disable everything Bracken related.

Okay, you're right.

I don't know why it affects that even when Bracken Rework as a whole is off. But yeah, disabling Personal Space fixed that.

[keen tulip]

@dawn glade dunno if you're aware of this bug but just thought I should @ you in case you didn't

[steel saddle]

oh it was diversity ?

🤔

oh yup i disabled the personal space and it doesnt overlap anymore
ty @keen tulip @lament raft
i guess i can just try snatchinbracken in this case

[lament raft]

Personal Space is buggy right now anyway, from what I remember.

[steel saddle]

what kinda buggy ? aside from the overlapping text thing

[bold dragon]

Everyone will freeze when the player in his personal space gets the cutscene. Also bracken will be bugged after, basically glued to someone's back and unable to kill.

[steel saddle]

i havent experienced the freeze part, but the latter i think that happened sometime ago

[vital steeple]

any idea if that freeze happens without OpenBodyCams? the monitoring text getting stuck is likely unrelated to that, but that freeze may be something I need to look into

[dense dune]

That's a bug with Diversity, not OpenBodyCams

Just disable Personal Space for the Bracken

[bold dragon]

Hmm, I couldn't tell. I never used Diversity 2.0 without OBC installed.

[dense dune]

Literally just told you it is a bug with Diversity specifically, the dev of Diversity is even aware of it and working on fixing it.

Has nothing to do with OBC

[bold dragon]

I know that. That's what I was literally replying to Arterra / adding to the conversation before and why I chose to ignore your reply since I think Zaggy was specifically asking if there's any correlation with OBC which I could not know.

[vital steeple]

I suppose it's likely it's a full freeze rather than a main camera freeze then

that's good if it's unrelated

[dense dune]

It's not really that you freeze, more so when someone gets grabbed you can't move for a bit, but you can jump and still talk to people near you lol

It's really janky

[vital steeple]

ah, I see

[bold dragon]

yup

[vital steeple]

that makes sense, the animations that lock the player are slightly buggy anyway

[vital steeple]

also, with regard to the name showing up with Diversity, that looks like it might actually be best fixed on my end, or at least would have to be fixed by implementing compatibility in Diversity

the terminal map is probably setting the text and visibility for the main monitor's map

I'll look into patching Diversity to make the error text show on both maps which will also fix that

[dawn glade]

If there's something I can do on my end please let me know

[dense dune]

Yeah it only happens with TwoRadarMaps when the Bracken Personal Space is enabled I found out, it is funny having the player name show up when in orbit but also becomes annoying quickly 😂

[vital steeple]

the complete solution on your end would be to instantiate your "ErrorText" GameObject for both the main map's ManualCameraRenderer and the TwoRadarMaps.TerminalMapRenderer, and then apply the changes to the correct map text in your MapCameraFocusOnPosition postfix

however, I'm thinking it's best for me to implement support via patches from my side instead, since I want to keep options open to allow more than just the two map renderers in the future (and compat on your side would break if I did that), so to that end I think it would just help to have the code that instantiates the "ErrorText" object in its own function which is passed its parent transform

[dawn glade]

Ahh gotcha gotcha

[flint wagon]

Is this mod still incompatible with CullFactory?

[lament raft]

They were incompatible?

Zaggy works on CullFactory too.

[flint wagon]

Yes, OpenBodyCam was unable to render the facility when CullFactory is enabled.

Not sure if this is still the case though

[vital steeple]

that was a long time ago, it definitely should not be happening anymore

(the issue was not with OpenBodyCams to be clear)

[silent depot]

Do you have any plans to give a config option to only have body cams on radar boosters?

[vital steeple]

sorry to have replied late, I wasn't at my PC and wanted to make sure I didn't forget to add this to my to-do list

[vital steeple]

is that to make body cams a little less op? what are your thoughts on it as a buyable upgrade instead? that's the next big feature I have in mind after I finish work on other mods

[ancient dragon]

yes making it an upgrade for those who want to is great

[silent depot]

I like the cams but they become a little too present. My group likes to keep it vanilla and they had talked about if the radar boosters had cameras it would be interesting which reminded me of the funtionality here

just that there isn't a way to isolate that functionality

[vital steeple]

ah I see, fair enough

it's on the list, so I can see myself adding it with the next version when I get to it

[devout lance]

I'm not very fussed about making huge new mechanics buyable features for balancing purposes. There are so many mods which really cool features but obviously cheating a little bit. I try to balance this with difficulty raising mods. But hey reserved item slots made them all configurably buyable. But like do I expect touchscreens, better teleporters, extra door buttons, to all do it. Eh. I guess even ship windows did so...

I use this mod in both public and private lobbies, I'm sure that'll never change, it makes me smile too much.

Though I'm not really looking at it nearly as much as the map.

[vital steeple]

yeah, it'll be optional, off by default

[flint wagon]

Anyone else experiencing the body cam being blue?

This happens randomly and fixes itself randomly...

Can make a screenshot tomorrow

[vital steeple]

probably a conflict, would be good if you get logs and a profile code

[vital steeple]

do you have immersive visor?

[compact plaza]

i think its immersive visor the 3. versions are super buggy for me

the spectate on latest was pure blue and crashed my game

[vital steeple]

huh, crashing the game is curious

[dreamy lantern]

OBC being blue ❌
Mirror mod being blue 💁🏻‍♂️✨

[distant leaf]

Is there any way to have the exterior camera enabled, instead of the interior one

[vital steeple]

not currently, no

I think it might be better to ask GeneralImprovements to do something like that, because if I start swapping camera textures around other than the body cams, I'm not sure if it might break something

[distant leaf]

I just switch from Helmet Cameras and the performance increase is so nice. I just asked because by default with that mod the small monitor displays the exterior camera. I didn't know if it was possible

I also don't play with general improvements 😕

After looking at what it does looks like I have some trimming to do in my pack😅

[vital steeple]

worth noting that I believe you may not be able to switch what camera the small monitor displays without the BetterMonitors option enabled in that mod

if Helmet_Cameras does replace the small monitor, though, maybe I can get away with doing it too, hmm

[celest horizon]

@vital steeple Wanted to run on V50, test mods :с

[vital steeple]

it was working for me earlier today, so I'm guessing that's probably not the initial issue

[celest horizon]

I got scared and left xD

I'll wait for the official release and then I'll look for errors

[dense dune]

OpenBodyCams works fine on V50

[celest horizon]

it means the problem is somewhere else

with GI or something else

[dense dune]

Not GI

stop always assuming GI

LOL

[celest horizon]

then I do not understand

[dense dune]

GI is fine with V50

[lapis mason]

I have been using helmet_cameras and noticed that getting turned into a masked didn't show the perspective of the masked.
Now reading this thread I see that players turned into masked are not able to be viewed on camera

Wouldn't that make more sense, and be a nice feature if the camera was able to show the perspective of the masked players?

Then the ship person may even not realize that they're talking to a masked. And that the player has been killed

[vital steeple]

hmm? where did you get the impression that doesn't work in this mod?

that's been a feature since near the beginning, although a vanilla bug prevents clients from always seeing the perspective of a player converted by a masked enemy

it works when a mask converts them

[lapis mason]

I have read a part of the beginning of this thread. But gave up and assumed. I was kinda asking more than stating

That's cool, I'm going to be moving my modpack to this mod then

[vital steeple]

ah, early on in the thread would probably be before I had implemented that feature

it's been a long time since then, so I actually don't even remember if I launched with that

[ember ingot]

@vital steeple you implemented cameras for this mod right?

im trying to setup a camera in unity, not sure what layer i should be putting it in, im assuming Enemy

or Player, but dunno

[vital steeple]

you mean the Camera's GameObject's layer?

[vital steeple]

I don't know if that matters, I don't recall if I changed the layer for mine

[ember ingot]

hmm

[vital steeple]

what'll matter more is the culling mask of the camera component

[ember ingot]

icic

[vital steeple]

lemme check my code though

[ember ingot]

Can I ask if you know any good tutorials for the camera or how to make it show on a "monitor"?

[vital steeple]

yeah, I just create the camera on the default layer

[ember ingot]

gotcha

[vital steeple]

as far as tutorials, couldn't tell you really

I just looked at how it was done in the base game

I would recommend looking at the map screen or another camera in the ship

the material has a RenderTexture that the Camera renders to

[ember ingot]

alright ill give that a look, I saw some items with rendertexture before hand like from Lethalthings just havent dabbled too much into it yet

[vital steeple]

things get tricky when you start trying to get the custom post-processing to work on your camera

it honestly doesn't even work quite right with OpenBodyCams, I still need to do some more investigation

[ember ingot]

ugh yeah, i couldnt even get the ingame post processing on my particles let alone trying to make it on a camera lol

[vital steeple]

but if you're not using the posterization filter and you're not concerned about the fog being accurate, you're probably okay

[glossy island]

is there a way to still show the outdoor camera when using this with GeneralImprovements?

[vital steeple]

not without BetterMonitors in GI, currently

I wanted to see if GI would implement camera swapping with the default model, but I think I'll be adding that to the next release for v50 instead, either by making it possible to show the exterior camera when the target is invalid, or also turning the disable internal camera option into an enum to select what to show on the small monitor

gonna take a bit of cooking though, since I also have to keep from changing the behavior of API users

ok my phone decided to autocorrect me into making no sense, that was cool

anyway yeah, it's planned, I've just had CullFactory in the oven for a while

[glossy island]

ah

[dense dune]

@vital steeple you'll probs need to redo your MoreCompany patch

[glossy island]

I've already got a PR up for it, just gonna double check it still works though

[dense dune]

Okay can you check ModelReplacementAPI's too?

[glossy island]

actually im now confused cuz the existing version of OpenBodyCams seems to work with the new morecompany but it didn't when I tried it a few weeks ago

[dense dune]

Lol odd

[glossy island]

seems to be working so 🤷‍♂️

[vital steeple]

iirc what I saw on your branch a while ago was an issue with MoreCompany being built in debug vs release, though I may be wrong

what changed?

[glossy island]

a bunch of the cosmetic code

[vital steeple]

it doesn't look like the relevant stuff in the chat patch changed though, so yeah, I'm guessing the issue was with you building in a different optimization level when you tested it

I'll have to make it not sensitive to that though, at the time I didn't know that the compiler liked to generate variables for conditionals in debug

[ruby sierra]

Assuming everything is working on v50 chief? @vital steeple

[vital steeple]

the last time I tested it was actually in the beta previous to the one the stable release is based on, so I'm not entirely sure

I would think it works, but I'll have to update it to handle the new suits

[ruby sierra]

ok

Assuming you have to test all 4 of your mods for v50

[vital steeple]

gonna be working on it for a bit, I'm hoping to add a few features

chances are my mods are still working, but yeah, I will

[ruby sierra]

ok

[vital steeple]

yeah, OpenBodyCams seems fine in v50, will add the tag

PathfindingLagFix is also still necessary and compatible

[real agate]

My OpenBodyCams seems to give me a blackscreen

[vital steeple]

it could be a conflict, do you have logs?

I say conflict, but more likely it's another mod that isn't compatible with v50 if it's that

[real agate]

I don't know how to besides screenshotting but the thing is, this blackscreen is really weird

[ruby sierra]

How about Nutcracker fixes?

[real agate]

I'm actually on the ship when I load in and I can technically play if I wanted to, but it's basically like playing blindfolded

[vital steeple]

if you go to your BepInEx folder there's a LogOutput.log file

yeah, that's about what I'd expect

[real agate]

This?

[vital steeple]

huh, is this an instance where the screen was black? I don't see any evidence of it in the logs

[real agate]

it'd probably be easier if you booted up the code yourself "018eda3d-1433-cdb8-554f-cef30731ef1e"

The pack is probably broken in a multitude of ways rn, but I do know that enabling bodycams causes the blackscreen

[vital steeple]

it's not really necessary anymore, vanilla v50 fixes the hitreg issues and Matty is making a mod that fixes shotgun safety and ammo count desyncs

I'll deprecate it in a bit

[vital steeple]

true, lemme try it

it looks like you have LethalLevelLoader, though, and I don't think it's compatible yet

that might be part of it

I would expect that to explode quite spectacularly on v50

[ruby sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/miles-morales-running-away-from-miguel-gif-8592191035656891047

[real agate]

yeah, atm I'm just trying to find issues with the mods

[ruby sierra]

hold

[real agate]

so everything can get sorted out faster

[ruby sierra]

what about people who will still play on v49 because they are weirdo who cant cope with change

[vital steeple]

they can still use it

[ruby sierra]

ok

[vital steeple]

it's discontinued so it'll be marked as deprecated, but that doesn't stop people downloading it

@real agate yeah you have an error from Scarlet Mansion as well, that'll need to be updated once LLL is updated

will check if the black screen is OBC's fault though

[vital steeple]

looks like the black screen is caused by the aforementioned LLL/custom interior errors, but I can still avoid causing the black screen

Unity's deferred destruction strikes again

[vital steeple]

since I'm planning on making the front ship body cam into an unlockable, I wonder if anyone has ideas for how such a device could look on the ship, or even if someone would want to take a stab at modeling and texturing one?

I'm not much of a 3D artist, so if I were to make something it would be a bit of a programmer art abomination

it's not totally necessary for it to be a physical object, but I'm thinking it would be nice for people to be able to see it to know that bodycams are unlocked when they join a game (in case they have disable on ship enabled etc)

[lapis mason]

As in an external camera that shows what is on the front end of the ship?

[vital steeple]

ah, no, I'm referring to the body cam that is already enabled by default after installing this mod

I specify just because there's a couple mods that add body cams of their own through dependency on this one, and they will be unaffected

[lapis mason]

oh, I see.
As a feedback, I've turned that camera off in config. As i found it to be not very usefull

[vital steeple]

which one, the internal ship camera?

[lapis mason]

It shows you the same thing you could view by just turning around. And if you did notice something coming up on that camera, then it's probably too late to try closing the door

[vital steeple]

indeed

[lapis mason]

I would like that monitor to display the outside camera, that is showing a view from above the door

[vital steeple]

that's on my todo list for next update

[lapis mason]

That was the view i got when i was using Helmet_Cameras. And i find the current internal ship camera quite useless.

An unlockable might be to replace that camera, with the external door camera

And the next unlockable after that could be a camera on the roof of the ship, that rotates and monitors 360.

[vital steeple]

I'm not trying to make a whole array of camera unlockables lol

I'm going to make an option to customize which camera stays, and make an option to disable the body cams until they are unlocked via the terminal

[lapis mason]

Another idea i just had. What if there was a camera as a 'ship decoration', so you could reposition it using B, and attach it to where you prefer?

[vital steeple]

I can see myself potentially giving an option for a camera on the opposite side from the door, but that's not a near-future thing, and I don't think I'd want to make that an unlockable as well since adding unlockables to this game isn't really very pretty

I think that would be restricted to the inside of the ship, so it would still not be terribly useful

at least without hacking the ship building mode

it's a possibility, but definitely not a priority given that I'll probably have to mess around with unlockables a bunch before I can get that working smoothly

I'm not a big fan of the fact that unlockables use sequential IDs, so I don't think I'm gonna use the vanilla system for this

I don't want my body cam unlockable to suddenly transform into some other mod's unlockable after that mod is installed

so in other words, I'm not looking for more work rn, just looking for anyone interested in making a model

[lapis mason]

hmm, i think Lategame Upgrades could provide an API for other mods to add upgrades through that mod. That would probably be the most elegant way to handle upgrades inside other mods

[vital steeple]

LethalLib has an API for it already, but it doesn't solve the sequential ID problem

[lapis mason]

going through lgu would allow the upgrade to list using the new store interface and to have upgrade levels and stuff

[vital steeple]

I prefer the simplicity of vanilla unlockables personally, so I won't be making something like that

if someone wants to make a dependent mod that implements a bunch of extra cameras as unlockables, that would be cool, and I'll help them do that

if they're external cameras, though, there's really no reason it needs to be implemented in/with OpenBodyCams, players won't be able to see themselves on external cameras

oh wait

@woven pumice is the goat, I just realized SmartItemSaving solves the problem of mapping unlockables after mod lists change

(sorry for the ping, but you deserve the praise lol)

[ruby sierra]

Yo

TwoRadarMaps still good in v50

Im gonna assume so

[vital steeple]

indeed it should be

I haven't noticed any issues

[crude parrot]

just to verify, there was a bug with morecompany (before v10000) causing the body cams to stop working, right?

this mod hasnt been working properly for me for a little while, but i dont think i use anything else that would conflict (except generalimprovements which iirc these two mods have special handling for)

[vital steeple]

v10000?

also, I played with body cams on v50 with MoreCompany just yesterday

do you have logs?

[glossy island]

the latest morecompany has v50 as v10000 instead of v9999 (so v50 lobbies are shown separately from v49)

[vital steeple]

I see, I never noticed it increased the version number

[glossy island]

it never used to that was added in the latest update

[vital steeple]

but you say it was previously v9999?

I'm confused

[glossy island]

well it doesnt visibly increase it on the main menu but yeah

[vital steeple]

huh

does that mean that buttery is referring to the last update for MoreCompany that was intended for v49?

because that one never had any issues that I was aware of

[glossy island]

so basically all old versions of morecompany changed the game version to v9999 (so morecompany lobbies are separated from vanilla) but with the latest update it made it so the morecompany version increments with the game version (so v50 = v10000). So they'd mean v50 with the latest version of morecompany

it's dumb but one of the only ways to separate modded lobbies from vanilla

[vital steeple]

right, it makes sense

perhaps a bit problematic if people need to detect the version in other mods though I imagine

[terse storm]

hi

mod broken in 50

[vital steeple]

no it's not

you probably have another mod breaking everything

[terse storm]

ah ok

[crude parrot]

sorry i missed the posts yesterday

i meant morecompany v1.8.1 vs 1.9.0 but forgot the version numbers

and the answer seems to be yes

the mod works again after the morecompany update

so i suppose my issue is resolved

[vital steeple]

hmm, I didn't think I had any issues with MoreCompany 1.8.1 and OpenBodyCams together, that's odd

only thing I can think of is that issue with the release bytecode, but I don't think that actually ever went out

[dense dune]

@vital steeple so not sure if this is a vanilla issue or a TwoRadarMaps bug, but a friend couldn't use the view monitor command earlier because it got frozen for them on someone who left the lobby, I figured I should mention it though

[vital steeple]

you mean the switch command stopped working?

any logs?

[dense dune]

@ocean dragon if you still have the logs can you send them?

[vital steeple]

bunny ears in body cam ?!

next up, tulip snakes appearing in the correct position on the body cams

[manic cosmos]

[dense dune]

When update?

;o

[vital steeple]

not for a while probably, although I think it's likely I'll have the tulip sneks working on sundayish

I'm gonna be implementing the ship upgrade for this update and hopefully a few slightly overdue fixes

and maybe some extra little features that I won't mention for fear of breaking promises

I'm not in any rush to push out an update since it already works with v50

[vital steeple]

nice

[vital steeple]

I have a choice between three options at the moment with regard to the body cams ship upgrade which I'd like to take a poll/get thoughts on:

• 1️⃣ Have body cams from game start by default with only a soft dep on LethalLib, which would allow the mod to still function client-side
• 2️⃣ Make body cams a ship upgrade by default only if LethalLib is already installed, which makes my life easier by not requiring me to install LethalLib and the MonoMod patcher when setting up a test environment
• 3️⃣ Body cams ship upgrade by default, with a LethalLib hard dependency

[compact plaza]

will it still function as client sided in the 2nd option?

[vital steeple]

it would, yeah

but only if LethalLib is not installed, or if you disable the upgrade manually

[compact plaza]

alr im voting 2 then

[hardy hemlock]

this mod just has a hard time working for me, it works fine for 1-3 days but after that it stays black

not sure if this warning is relevant:

[14:03:23.1049046] [Warning: Unity Log] Max shadow requests count reached, dropping all exceeding requests. You can increase this limit by changing the Maximum Shadows on Screen property in the HDRP asset.

[vital steeple]

the body cam screen is black?

and everything else is fine?

you'll probably have to send a full log from when that happened, because I doubt the max shadow requests was the issue

[hardy hemlock]

i did look through my logs and this mod isnt mentioned, or any warnings that felt relevant, but i will try to notice when it stops working and report back

[vital steeple]

yeah, please do

hard to say what could have gone wrong, it's possible it wouldn't show up as an error in the body cams

if some other mod broke the loading process then there's nothing OBC can do to recover

[dusty glacier]

I have the same issue. When i load in everything is just black. Sadly i also dont have a log beccause i just turned mod off and on again and then it was fixed

[vital steeple]

hmm, that sounds like a corrupted save then

if you loaded and saved your file without OpenBodyCams it may have reset something that wasn't loading correctly. Chances are you also erased some information about your save, but if you don't notice what changed then I'm sure it's fine

[vital steeple]

also, I have a change that hopefully fixes the issue in the next update so that you can still load into a save and then exit and save over it, but OpenBodyCams will probably still not function in that same situation

[real agate]

^^^ thought this may be relevant, but my OBC started working again recently and I've got no clue why. I used to get that same issue but it went away a couple days back.

[vital steeple]

model not final, but it's looking good in-game!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229569360662888459/1235048871118377030/image.png?ex=6632f464&is=6631a2e4&hm=ccdd615e9cc764d7e93773b7923eada9d93c087886541e3a40f4c9da4245968b&

[steel saddle]

what is that antenna for

[vital steeple]

the ship upgrade to unlock the body cams in the next update

[somber mica]

oh nice

[digital wharf]

Can you replace the CAMERA INSIDE SHIP with an outboard camera?

[steel saddle]

u can

[vital steeple]

I'm going to be adding an option for that in the next release hopefully, although it's a bit tricky because of the camera culling

[vital steeple]

currently, I believe the only way is through BetterMonitors in GeneralImprovements, so you can't do it with the vanilla monitors yet

next update it'll hopefully be set up so that it can show the camera the body cam is replacing when the camera gets disabled, as well as being able to swap the original cameras

[vital steeple]

final (?) model is in!

[ruby sierra]

Nice bong Zaggy

Very exotic

[vital steeple]

I might adjust the intensity of the normals on the base to make it look less stark, not sure yet

[vital steeple]

lol what the

[ruby sierra]

Lmao

Also

This is the 18th time I will ask you this question

[vital steeple]

uh oh

[ruby sierra]

Between unlimited fps, and capping it to 30 fps

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-funny-cat-raaaawr-gif-23646515

Which one do you advise still

[vital steeple]

unlimited

[ruby sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/insane-cat-cat-meme-insanity-losing-grip-gif-180836453624345115

[vital steeple]

I think I'll always recommend unlimited even if I manage to get a better method working for framerate limiting, since it'll still affect frame timing consistency

but you can use 30 or less if you want more average framerate

[ruby sierra]

Now

I see you’ve done the camera work for the black mesa interior

[vital steeple]

yea a bit

[ruby sierra]

A. Does the OBC settings affect those cameras

And B. What framerate are those camera running on

[vital steeple]

1. no
2. yes (unlimited)

we experimented with reducing the number of cameras rendered per frame, but it seems like either the runtime didn't like it, or CullFactory setting visibility of a bunch of renderers each frame was making it unhappy

either way, didn't work out so they just render at the game's framerate

[formal sinew]

oh no, black mesa gonna break my game then im on a laptop 😭

[vital steeple]

the cameras are only active when you're close to the security room and looking towards them, so it'll essentially only be briefly when you're entering the facility or purposely looking at them

[formal sinew]

ok cool, although the map is so huge itll prob break it for me itself anyway, unfortunately

[vital steeple]

yeah, it's definitely quite taxing in general

[steel saddle]

@vital steeple a bit of scuff text at the start of a run
its gone after u landed and the days after tho
happens when i have tworadarmap and diversity

[vital steeple]

that used to be an issue between TwoRadarMaps and Diversity, I may have forgotten to work on that

uh oh

lemme check if I said anything about that before

[steel saddle]

well i def reported it back on v49 😂

u fixed it and then it appeared again on v50

nvm i cant even read my own convos

[vital steeple]

#1199570032196333648 message

I think I forgor to do this

I'll check when I'm at my PC

[dense dune]

I thought it was just a bug when the personal space is enabled in Diversity? Not really related to TwoRadarMaps itself

[vital steeple]

I forget exactly the mechanism by which it was making that visible, but it's probably related to that feature, yeah

it adds some text to the radar map, but I'll have to look through the code again to figure out why it placed the vanilla text there

[dense dune]

It only ever happens when I have personal space on, @dawn glade has said he plans to fix it lmao

[vital steeple]

right, but if you check what I said in the linked message, I had said I preferred to fix it

then I apparently promptly got distracted and hadn't written it on my todo list

[dawn glade]

You're going to patch Diversity? Cause that's really an woopsie from my mod not yours c:

[vital steeple]

maybe I'm thinking of a different issue, I haven't looked at this in a long time

what are you looking to do on your side?

I'm thinking of the issue of the warning text not appearing on my second map, but I forget if that was actually linked to the issue of the text showing up

[dawn glade]

If you look the ss closely it says monitoring: 'username' while overllaping the moon text when in orbit.

The monitoring should be turned off which is not the case

[vital steeple]

I meant what fix you had in mind

I haven't looked at the issue in a while so I don't recall how to fix it

@dawn glade just refreshed my memory, the issue specifically occurs in your MapCameraFocusOnPosition postfix from what I remember. The tricky thing is that you (currently) specifically have to assume there is only one radar map added by TwoRadarMaps, which may or may not change in the future

also, to implement support on your side, you'd have to find the map text clone I make in TwoRadarMaps and instantiate your text onto it and update the enabled/active in that function for the specific map instance

the map text could probably be found with GameObject.Find, but I would tend to say it's better to do that through a soft dependency so that it's not dependent on the name

oh god why is that audio replacement on the ship speaker on by default

I've had to disable my audio so many times because of that thing

[steel saddle]

its there to give u terror

[vital steeple]

@dawn glade if you wanted to fix the issue of the player name appearing, you could probably just insert a

if (__instance != StartOfRound.Instance.mapScreen)
    return;

at the start of your MapCameraFocusOnPosition() postfix
I'd also suggest caching the error text, since MapCameraFocusOnPosition() is called every frame and calling Transform.Find(string) is probably a bit slow

would also be cool if the error text was instantiated on a prefix of Terminal.Start(), but that's just a convenience thing for me so that I can make my TwoRadarMaps initialization duplicate your error text after it's created

after you're satisfied with the changes on your end, I could add a compatibility patch that makes the error text show up on the second map

[dusty glacier]

What mod are you using for the monitors?

[vital steeple]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1199836228858675330

it's the UseBetterMonitors option

[dusty glacier]

Oh ok thanks.
I used this mod before but i never have seen this

[clever knot]

that's from general improvements

shows scrap on the moon when you are landed

anyone have suit mod recommendations for this? looking for a pack of vanilla-style suits without 3d pokemon models etc

also any cosmetics mod ideas in addition to more company would be appreciated

[brittle verge]

equipmentcompany is a personal fav of mine, doesnt have any compat issues w the cams either as far as ive found

[clever knot]

perfect, thanks

that'll do well to just add things to the pool of cosmetics

[tardy salmon]

SimpleCompany is a good one also

[crude parrot]

+1 for equipment company

[silk quest]

@vital steeple Random question. How come you set the default FOV to 65 when the game's default FOV is 66?

[vital steeple]

it was kind of an arbitrary decision, I'm not sure if I checked the exact FOV value for the gameplay camera

1 degree makes hardly any difference though, the camera position differing makes it more different than that could

I considered making the FOV something higher like 70, but I think 65 looked right to me

[silk quest]

I totally get it, I was legitimately just curious.

[vital steeple]

there's a good chance I just eyeballed it and then forgot to revisit it lol

[silk quest]

I've tried 70 and it just looks weird to me after playing at the default for so long.

[vital steeple]

I can imagine

it's rare for me to be okay with such a low FOV, but I've gotten used to it in Lethal Company somehow

although I haven't checked how Unity measures it, it may differ from the usual measurement

[silk quest]

I agree. Most other games I play at 100.

[crude parrot]

default fov is 66 but it also changes to 68 when sprinting

[vital steeple]

huh, I just realized during testing that MoreCompany cosmetics don't seem to show on corpses? is there any mod that changes that?

or at least they don't show up on my end, hopefully nothing's broken

[clever knot]

do you use anything for custom suits, Zaggy?

[clever knot]

also, any obvious candidates for what could cause the monitor to turn off (go blank with the base background from GeneralImprovements)?

works fine after i use the in-game buttons to turn the monitors off and on again

[vital steeple]

depends on what you mean by custom suits, I have support for ModelReplacementAPI at least

[vital steeple]

I think that may be the GeneralImprovements option to display the background on the unused monitors, I have to look into that still

(thanks for the reminder though, I almost forgot to look at that)

[clever knot]

I meant more basic things like https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/schtics/AdditionalSuitsXTRA/ - something to get a few more suit colours in for larger lobbies

Although I guess I should simply test a few of these mods to see if there's anything odd

[clever knot]

also I'll test this with a lobby tomorrow with ShowBackgroundOnAllScreens set to false

[vital steeple]

I would expect that those would just retexture the vanilla player model, that should be perfectly fine

[clever knot]

cool, i'll report back tomorrow then

with both the background and the retextures info, for your convenience

and yeah, thanks for making the mod, most importantly

it's much more pleasant than original helmet cam mod our group ran before

[vital steeple]

I'm just glad to see people enjoy it

thanks!

[silk quest]

@vital steeple A thought I just had after reading the discussion between you and Shaosil earlier. Is there a way that you can reduce the "mirror" effect of the body cam screen if you happen to be viewing your own camera? Like you know that effect that happens when you put two mirrors face to face? Would there be any performance improvement to doing so?