sfDesat's Moons and Mods

[halcyon ermine]

more people can help you here https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1169069074572116041

i will and there is no ETA right now

[halcyon ermine]

Celestial Tint [1.2.0]

• Added LethalLevelLoader v1.2 support
• Switched from LevelTags to ContentTags
• Tags have been renamed; Canyon (Legacy: Desert), Tundra (Legacy: Snow) and Valley (Legacy: Forest)
• Updated the wiki
• Adjusted planet rotation
• Adjusted sun rotation
• Refactored code

[true knoll]

sfdesat my beloved

[wraith elk]

man I must be crazy i swear I landed on an Eclipsed Aquatis.. maybe i was dreaming x.x

always good when Aquatis gets love

[halcyon ermine]

i think eclipsed weather got lost along the way. idk when

[wraith elk]

Baboon Hawks spawn max is now 6
:D

Increased Forestgiant spawn weight

D:

Never see me leaving the ship without a stun grenade when them mfers are about

[cobalt shuttle]

Hey, don't get me wrong - I think they're really cool and all (along with the moon, I love it) but could we get a config so we can disable the crabs from spawning? Not sure why this is but when in the facility I can hear them scurrying around still . . . somewhere and it personally is really irksome. I have tried removing them from the enemy spawns in LLL but they are not listed in the defaults for some reason, so I can't remove them. Even having had generated fresh LLL configs.
Not something necessary and I don't want to sound ungrateful, because your work is really good and I'm aware that this is something you must do out of love. I just think it would be great to give users as much control over this sort of thing. Modularity. Something. Blah. Sorry if this comes across badly, I don't mean it to at all.

[halcyon ermine]

thats fair i didnt know you could still hear them inside. I'll adjust them. You cant adjust them using configs because they arent full enemies, just objects moving around

[halcyon ermine]

spikes from celest

[hasty umbra]

will u update your 3 in 1 moonpack too? i didnt get the update

[hasty umbra]

ok thank u

[halcyon ermine]

i will eventually, although maybe i'm gonna deprecate it eventually in favour of something else

[hasty umbra]

ok

[halcyon ermine]

tulip snake express

[halcyon ermine]

Celest [1.1.0]

• v50 support
• Audio
  • Added High Wind sound
  • Adjusted Reverb Triggers
• Creatures
  • Removed Baboon hawks from Outside Enemies
  • Added Flowersnakes in Outside Enemies (weight = 60)
  • Lowered BlindDog weight 60 > 25
  • Increased Outside Enemy Power 7 > 10
  • Added spike traps
• Lighting
  • Reduced sun intensity
  • New Starmap
  • Adjusted sun animation
  • Adjusted Time To Arrive 1 > 3
• New Quicksand texture
• Enviroment
  • Added props
  • Adjusted prop positions
• Improved performance

[hasty umbra]

all these modded moons getting the tulip snakes everywhere now

[sinful bobcat]

I love them, they're like a free shitty jetpack lol

[hasty umbra]

yea just wish they couldnt go inside

when im tryna find loot getting harassed lol

[halcyon ermine]

only Celest for mine. Celest is supposed to be filled with birds

[sinful bobcat]

Smack them with a shovel

[hasty umbra]

ok thats cool, was talking bout tolians moons too lol

[hasty umbra]

completely forgot lol, yea not so bad if u got a shovel

[sinful bobcat]

You can do it while they're on your head yeah

Like snare fleas

[sinful bobcat]

I'm guessing Orion is next

[halcyon ermine]

yup, butlers and mechs lol

[hasty umbra]

sheeesh thats gonna be crazy

[sinful bobcat]

I think rare chance of old birds could fit on Celest imo, thats how i had it set up

[hasty umbra]

celest supposed to be a fairly easy map tho, no?

[sinful bobcat]

Like how theres a small chance of old brids on march and vow

[hasty umbra]

oh right

[halcyon ermine]

aquatis = easy, celest = medium, orion = hard

[halcyon ermine]

could do that instead of the forest giants

[hasty umbra]

idk

[sinful bobcat]

Or have both lol

[hasty umbra]

celest is peaceful environment, idk if old birds would fit in all that well lol

i imagine celest as calm and quiet lol, doesnt have to be ig lol

[halcyon ermine]

i'll test it still. The peace is already broken up a bit by the spike traps and the flowersnakes that jumpscare you

[hasty umbra]

yea whatever enemies you think are best

your the dev

i bet old birds on space station would go crazyyy loll

[sinful bobcat]

I imagine finding a sleeping oldbrid on celest during the day and I think that it would fit pretty well visually

[halcyon ermine]

wowowowowowowoow ||dont spoil the story update||

[sinful bobcat]

Did the transition get removed in celestial tint?

[halcyon ermine]

yeah idk what happened, but i gotta fix it

[hasty umbra]

the modded moons arent supported in celestial tint right?

also is there any config stuff i need to do to see it normally, like change ship windows config or somethimg?

[halcyon ermine]

yes set SpaceOutside to 0

[hasty umbra]

ok

[hasty umbra]

celestial tint way better for my fps than when i tried it last time, whatever you did helped me a lot thanks

[undone wadi]

Any chance we could get a config to override the level tag/celestial tint properties vanilla and custom moons have set? That would be very nice especially for moon creators that haven't or won't implement a Celestial Tint tag for their moon.

I also would love to have a config option to make the sun start in a random position each time so it's not always coming up over the planet every time you route. Sometimes it could start at "night", etc.

[halcyon ermine]

that is the plan, i just need to figure out a good way to implement it. I think someone forked Celestial Tint and wanted to add that, but idk what happened to it

[cerulean jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/bhocolat-gif-24343951

I can see my moment of peace is over

All the moons and inteiors are coming back

[halcyon ermine]

I like that idea. Currently the sun does start "random", but this only is its height and its only picking between about 20° of rotation. problem is that the planets may not look that good at night, but i'll test it

[cerulean jewel]

sf long time no see

[halcyon ermine]

yup. not big changes but small adjustments

[cerulean jewel]

Ive peeked here and there

are the rumors true

do you have...

||crabs?||

👀

[halcyon ermine]

🦀

[cerulean jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-funny-cat-raaaawr-gif-23646515

[halcyon ermine]

you cant kill them though and they dont have a bestiary entry

[cerulean jewel]

I also saw a new beta moon sometime in thunderstore when i was scrolling

[halcyon ermine]

thats old now

[undone wadi]

This is extra dreaming, but it would be cool if at "night" it would transition the skybox to a more colorful space revealed by the light pollution going away

[cerulean jewel]

old as in no longer beta or old as in no longer being developed

[halcyon ermine]

good idea, i'll test it

[halcyon ermine]

its behind the full release

[cerulean jewel]

Ik

Whats the new moon like

[halcyon ermine]

no new moon, only updates

[cerulean jewel]

oh

[halcyon ermine]

it was Aquatis Beta

[cerulean jewel]

I could have sworn...

It started with a D or something

i must be tweakin

[halcyon ermine]

oh yeah. i put that on the backburner and it will stay there for a while longer

[cerulean jewel]

lmao

Orion getting a v50 update?

[halcyon ermine]

butlers and old birds

[cerulean jewel]

Ni-

evil

but

nice

[halcyon ermine]

but it will take a bit longer, because i have to update more than the other moons

[cerulean jewel]

🫡

good work

Ill return when they are all done

[halcyon ermine]

in order

[wraith elk]

Did you ever figure out what caused the infinite sun?

[halcyon ermine]

yeah it should be fixed

[wraith elk]

:O

Pog

[rose roost]

The creature

@halcyon ermine Also, I could hear the crab footsteps from inside the facility

I can hear them briefly when the level is loading and the "waiting for crew" text is still on my screen as if they were on the ship right next to me

[covert pulsar]

Das silly

[wraith elk]

the Crabs are omniscent or whatever

[halcyon ermine]

yeah for whatever reason you can hear them over the entire universe

[trim stream]

god crab

[wind minnow]

For moonswept we had this issue with sound thingd

The mobile turrets gun fire would be global

What does your sound thing in Unity look like

[halcyon ermine]

I think the problem is that it plays the soundclip itself. I should probably make it use an Audio Source

have you tried messing with the Follow Surface option? because i think its not working correctly

[bold compass]

least powerful crab in gaming

[tranquil tide]

did you fix the weird collision with the crashed dropship prop?

yesterday I played on celest and it had like a weird invisible slope going from the actual prop out into nothing

[halcyon ermine]

i'm gonna fix that in the next big update

[tranquil tide]

sick sick

[halcyon ermine]

turns out the Old Birds are very good at killing giants. They kind of make Orion easier, because they kill a lot of monsters and its difficult for them to detect you when in such a large area. I will still add them, just with a low chance

[sinful bobcat]

Because giants don't fight back lol

would be cool if they did

[hasty umbra]

well at least redwoods do

[sinful bobcat]

Yeah I added the Redwood to Orion spawns

[tranquil tide]

yeah, that was my main concern with them lmao

only reason why places like embrion are hard is cuz there's a bajillion of em, even if they were around 10 on average it'd still be really easy cuz they can't see you from to far away

[tranquil tide]

redwood is perfect for orion yeah

[trim stream]

Imagine old birds on Celest

[halcyon ermine]

that would be spooky, but the tulipsnakes are very good at jumpscaring you because of the high grass

[trim stream]

yeah

[halcyon ermine]

i was thinking about doing that, but idk if i want it as a dependency. I will probably not add the old birds, because they make it to easy

[hasty umbra]

well if u make birds be a high chance then if they kill giants and more birds spawn after the giants die, maybe with a lot of birds itll still be hard

thing is how much space there is to avoid their sight

[sinful bobcat]

I mean idk how many you planned to add to Orion, but Artifice isn't what I'd call easy when there are 6 old birds after you lol

[hasty umbra]

like i think why giants are hard on orion is cuz i think they can see you from a very long distance, whereas birds i dont think so

[halcyon ermine]

i want the main threat to be the giants, i think the hiding and running from them sets Orion apart. The problem is that because of that it is a very big area. Old Birds are very short ranged. So you can easily spot them in the distance wandering around and avoid them. Artifice is difficult because the area is so small

[hasty umbra]

yea agreed

[sinful bobcat]

Yeah true

[halcyon ermine]

they only spawn at the start of the round i think

[hasty umbra]

i didnt know that

[sinful bobcat]

Yeah you can see them sleep when you land

[halcyon ermine]

Orion [2.1.0]

• v50 support
• Audio
  • Adjusted Audio Triggers
  • Added High Wind sound
• Creatures
• Adjusted Outside Creature spawn curve
• Increased Outside Enemy Power 8 > 10
• Removed Hydrogere
• Added the Butler
• Lowered Blind Dog spawn weight 20 > 10
• Interior
  • Reduced Factory size 2.4 > 2.2
  • Adjusted Landmine spawnrate
  • Adjusted Turret spawnrate
  • Added Spiketraps
  • Adjusted min-max scrap, 25-35
  • Reduced max total scrap value 4500 > 4000
• Lighting
  • Adjusted the sun visuals
  • Removed Rainy weather
  • Removed Stormy weather
  • Adjusted colors
  • New Starmap
• New Quicksand texture
• Enviroment
  • Added rolling fog
• Fixed entrance teleport rotation
• Removed Preview video
• Performance optimization
• Reduced Filesize

[sullen olive]

Don't forget to push an update to sfDesat bundle

[steady imp]

read earlier today that they wanted to deprecate it at some point? at least considered it

so i just went and got the 3 moons separately

[sinful bobcat]

He said he'll update it, but he'll deprecate it eventually iirc

[halcyon ermine]

im gonna keep it up for now, but i want to make something to replace it

[steady imp]

FakeNitroEmoji

regardless im gonna stick to separate moons unless you go sicko mode and publish like 10 more at once

[halcyon ermine]

i wont lol

[hasty umbra]

well yea but didnt know they couldnt just immediately spawn in too

btw is there a way to see the total scrap value avg for every moon, vanilla and modded?

[halcyon ermine]

sfDesat Collection [2.1.0]

• 2.0.1 > 2.1.0 Updated Orion
• 1.0.7 > 1.1.0 Updated Celest
• 2.1.0 > 2.2.0 Updated Aquatis

[sinful bobcat]

He ain't called wesley lol

[steady imp]

OH RIGHT AFTER I GET

CMON

NNnhhh

[sinful bobcat]

that's why I waited lmao

[steady imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/815657150138548265/1208538396050325524/ccatacatt.gif

[hasty umbra]

unrelated question: so do none of the lg upgrades work with lll? so its best to turn off until update?

[steady imp]

yes

[tranquil tide]

thats what i been telling everyone!! orion is so fun cuz it actually has props to hide from the giants and loop them

[hasty umbra]

as in none?

[steady imp]

i dont know the details but lll patching pretty much kills lgu so you're better off playing without it for now

just a matter of time until it gets fixed

[hasty umbra]

thank u for the info

[covert pulsar]

lil bit more of a fan of individual ones rather than a pack that has a dozen personally

[steady imp]

its good if you dont keep track of the discord/releases

cause some people have moons in the tens

[covert pulsar]

I'm pretty pick about moons I choose for my friend pack so they dont have 1gb+ extra sitting there of extra stuff

Plus less balancing I need to do if I add extra enemies & scrap

Ye my moon count's in the single digits rn

[steady imp]

lll's dynamic level tags make balancing a lot easier

me personally i like diversity

if a moon is even remotely interesting im getting it

[covert pulsar]

rn it's Aquatis, Orion, Serenity, Transmission, Ganimedes

I'd do Kast too but uhh, that's in limbo

[steady imp]

i remember getting orion back when it was just released with LE

[covert pulsar]

Ye samw

[halcyon ermine]

impressive

[steady imp]

but my first custom map was gm_construct lmao
the one dependent on moon api with no dungeon

[halcyon ermine]

me too

lol

[covert pulsar]

I tend to lean towards moons that are more vanilla and give some dynamic that differs from other moons

[halcyon ermine]

i respect that and fully agree with it

its what i've been trying to do with Explorations

[covert pulsar]

Tulip Snakes were unironically a boon for Serenity

To make the fire exit more accessible for a T1 moon

Key still needed to access it tho

[sullen olive]

Can you tell us what would be replacing it? What would be different?
Or do you want to take the mystery approach?

[halcyon ermine]

mystery approach

[halcyon ermine]

if only it didnt use LLLFixedv50

[covert pulsar]

You can uninstall it and use official LLL

1.2.1 works with it

boarding flight (hopefully) bbl

[sullen olive]

Oh no, he's slowly turning into a Wesley ...

[tropic pilot]

I love this approach

[steady imp]

the exterior spider approach

[sinful bobcat]

My guess would be a sort of campaign where you have to unlock the moons or something

since he also said he's cooking a story update, so that would make sense

[steady imp]

lll does support unlockable moons now 🤔

[sinful bobcat]

Wouldn't be suprised if wesley went that way too

Which honestly, I would be all for

[halcyon ermine]

alright, unnecessary to deduce my plans like that.

[halcyon ermine]

best approach

[covert pulsar]

Rosie and prob Wesley having a field day with the unlockable moon feature

[steady imp]

me leaving a log in a locked shack on a moon that contains a link to a rickroll

[halcyon ermine]

it was the original reason i switched to LLL, because i thought it supported story logs at the time

I have been sitting on a story script for months

[sinful bobcat]

Damn

Really looking forward to that

Will be interesting to see all the different stories all the moon packs will have to offer
It'll be like as if each moon pack is a DLC for the main game

Moon modding is truely at its peak

[sinful bobcat]

I love when stories conclude with the red entering the red

[trim stream]

real

best stories ever fr

[steady imp]

holy shi

[tropic pilot]

The red void consumes

[halcyon ermine]

you should also make something like this

[tropic pilot]

A red void?

can do

[halcyon ermine]

i have more red voids

[sinful bobcat]

oh right I completely forgot about Dryad

[halcyon ermine]

it currently looks nothing like how i want it to look

[sinful bobcat]

Yeah, I saw it when I needed to take the LethalRichPresence screenshot

[halcyon ermine]

the image.png is temporary

[sinful bobcat]

Want to know what the LRP screenshot is? lol

[sinful bobcat]

XD

[halcyon ermine]

lol

[sinful bobcat]

didn't have anything to showcase so

jetpacks

[sullen olive]

Conclusion:
The story concludes with thentering the This place thethat lies within The will attempt tothefromwill end as to if thehas been

[tropic pilot]

The red voids I'm sitting on shall remain hidden for now

[sinful bobcat]

Same with spacestation

[halcyon ermine]

its gripping. especially: lies within The will attempt tothefrom end

[wraith elk]

pretty much why I download Desat moons

which speaking of @halcyon ermine do you have plans for more moons in future? :o

[sinful bobcat]

Am I the only one who love doing this ? haha
https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/29DBa0GcbNzfvd/d1337AauLwbY?invite=cr-MSxqWDMsNDkyNjY5MSw

To infinity and beyond!

Idk why the teleport barrier doesn't exist when using a jetpack tho, would be softlocked there

[hasty umbra]

have u played on tolians budapest

if u have can u tell me where fire exit is

[sinful bobcat]

I did not, last time I tried it, it always crashed when trying to land

[hasty umbra]

lol alright

[sinful bobcat]

idk if that's been patched

[hasty umbra]

works for me on solo

dont know about mp

[lapis turret]

What mod is the jet ui

[sinful bobcat]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/teamdodoco/JetpackHMD/

[lapis turret]

Thanks

[rose roost]

@halcyon ermine got stuck on the random seed screen loading into Orion

here are the three errors thrown in my log when it happened. If you need my full log let me know

For context, since it has something to do with weathertweaks(I use betaweathertweaks in my modpack), Orion was eclipsed when I tried landing on it

[old cave]

Had some desync issues on Aquatis. Visited Aquatis 3 different times over the course of a several hour session, and all three times my friend (client, I am the host) would have a desynced interior. Consistently spawned the Mansion for him all three times, and he would often end up falling into the void below the map. The Mansion was not a valid interior for Aquatis.

No issues with Celest, which we also visited three times, or Guodan's Crest, which we visited once. We did not visit Orion during our session.

Oh, and the scrap that can be found on the ship on Aquatis had a value of zero during our session.

[sinful bobcat]

Idk if the issue is on your end, but when a Facility Meltdown occurs on Aquatis the moon turns red

[halcyon ermine]

yes? depends how you define a moon

[halcyon ermine]

i saw that, i think im just gonna remove them

[tranquil tide]

yeah they do

[tranquil tide]

you sure? I honestly think it's cool that the ship has stuff in it, elevates it above just being a cool prop

are you not able to assign values to the scrap found on there?

[ivory belfry]

just adding on to this it means you might have your sun named differently to the base game

or you have some other light that meltdown is picking up

in either case you can add meltdown DLL into your project and add a "MeltdownMoonMapper" and it'll fix it (also won't be a hard dep)

[ivory belfry]

thats lethal config?

ok

[halcyon ermine]

i didnt read it i guess

[ivory belfry]

silly :3

[halcyon ermine]

what do i need to do to get it compatible, because my lighting is setup differently. Does it matter where i put the script?

[ivory belfry]

nope just as long as there is one in the scene

you should also add stuff into "outside lights", thats what gets autofilled if there is no moon mapper (and what seems to be breaking)

[halcyon ermine]

ok i'll some things

[ivory belfry]

also im not 100% sure on if it works

it should but yeah

[halcyon ermine]

can i turn the lights off? does it enable them when it needs them?

[ivory belfry]

no but

you can use the "MeltdownEvents" behaviour to trigger stuff on meltdown start

[halcyon ermine]

it works except the texture issues on the smoke i think. Is there a way to fix this?

[ivory belfry]

nah thats an issue with meltdown itself

i migrated untiy projects and it didnt liek that

[halcyon ermine]

ah ok, thank you

[ivory belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-stock-image-gif-27117830

[halcyon ermine]

Celest [1.1.1]

• Added Facility Meltdown support
• Increased amount of OutsideAINodes
• Increased Outside Enemy Power 10 > 11
• Lowered Blind Dog spawn weight 25 > 20
• Replaced Forest Giants with Old Birds (weight = 5)
• 1.2.1 > 1.2.2 Updated LethalLevelLoader

[halcyon ermine]

@barren flare do you have any idea what this means or how to fix it?

[barren flare]

This is my shenanigans with the sun animator

I'm trying to get the corresponding animation clips for stormy weather, eclipse and no weather

by name

Turns out I didn't do this in a try-catch and it fails horribly

@rose roost @halcyon ermine Disable SunAnimatorPatch in the weathertweaks config and I'll let you know when this issue will be resolved

[halcyon ermine]

also idk if WeatherTweaks does this, but the text doesn't scroll for me on the screen with the Level Description

[barren flare]

😳 it shouldn't be my fault, but I'll definitely check it out

for reference: what's your modpack code?

[halcyon ermine]

018f1f63-be1c-766f-be08-23e37a2b5e21

[barren flare]

thanks, I'll look into it

[halcyon ermine]

Orion [2.1.1]

• New info description
• New level description
• Adjusted Risk Level to S+
• Added Facility Meltdown support
• Increased amount of OutsideAINodes
• Adjusted Daytime Creature Spawn chance

[halcyon ermine]

Celest [1.1.2]

• New info description
• New level description
• Adjusted Risk Level to B
• Increased the distance that can be explored, moved colliders
• Adjusted NavMesh

[halcyon ermine]

i fixed the audio problem and the follow surface problem #1212150109375037511 message. read the intallation instructions, because it now requires an audiosource

example:

[hasty umbra]

moonpack will be updated too right, sry just wanna make sure

[halcyon ermine]

aquatis first

[hasty umbra]

oh right my b

[lucid juniper]

Can i ask what about space station

Its pretty decent thing ( concept wise ) but the biggest issue for me seems with the light and occlusion there

Whole interior is bright inside soo much that it kinda ruins the concept of "horror" thing

[hasty umbra]

i think hes working on it, just not sure if its on the top of his to do list

[halcyon ermine]

Aquatis [2.2.1]

• New info description
• New level description
• Added Facility Meltdown support
• Adjusted Risk Level to D
• Increased amount of OutsideAINodes
• Decreased amount of crabs
• Fixed crab audio problems
• Fixed outside items having a value of 0

[sinful bobcat]

Outside items on Aquatis?

Is that new?

I played on it yesterday and didn't find anything outside

[halcyon ermine]

on the ship. and more places

[sinful bobcat]

Oh right, the ship is accessible now

completely forgot

[halcyon ermine]

list of things to do, in order

[earnest comet]

Microsoft to do

[hasty umbra]

wait is there issues between ct and ship windows? one of the todos is ship windows "support"

[halcyon ermine]

that is dont, just a github issue left

[hasty umbra]

ok

[halcyon ermine]

maybe i added a config file for Celestial Tint

Celestial Tint [1.3.0]

• Added configuration options

[frigid topaz]

Huge W

c;

[livid arrow]

@halcyon ermine
Need Crab Rave on Aquatis!

https://youtu.be/LDU_Txk06tM?si=VaJH7PBRLpmPxnPO&t=120

[sinful bobcat]

Make it so if you emote near one it starts to dance

lol

[livid arrow]

They must all gather around you and dance. 😛

Ohh and the boombox

[halcyon ermine]

i also made a config file for ViewExtension

[wanton vessel]

need

[hasty umbra]

what does planet tag mappings config do

[halcyon ermine]

Experimentation@Wasteland, Vow@Valley, Titan@Tundra

https://github.com/sfDesat/Celestial-Tint/wiki/Adding-support-for-Celestial-Tint < for previews

[hasty umbra]

sick

[tulip kindle]

Any chance you'd be willing to make a hazy purple one for Triskelion? :3c

[halcyon ermine]

sure 👍

ViewExtension [1.2.0]

• Added a config file
• Reworked the code
• Updated Github link
• Changed icon

[rose roost]

Will do

[steady imp]

idk if its @barren flare 's wtbeta doing or aquatis but i have this

also aquatis with enemy escape is HELL

[halcyon ermine]

baboon hawks going inside or monsters going outside?

[steady imp]

first one

they are relentless

[sinful bobcat]

Can't you enable/disable each enemy?

[steady imp]

on a completely unrelated note

[steady imp]

i dont wanna lol, its fun

[sinful bobcat]

Ah ok

[steady imp]

but yeah you can

funnily enough

bees are on by default

[sinful bobcat]

I mean, Masked bees can open doors so

[steady imp]

i mean the default bees

[sinful bobcat]

i guess it would make sense with vanilla logic

yeah ik

[steady imp]

its very broken in custom dungeons

[hasty umbra]

are your moons and the vanilla ones already set to the moon mappings that make the most sense

i know aquatis is already set to ocean mapping, not sure about orion or celest

[halcyon ermine]

the moon mapping thing is mainly if you want to change the preview or if you want to add it to a moon that doesn't support it by default. All my moons support it and are already setup, but you can change them to a different one if you'd like

[hasty umbra]

are the vanilla ones set up too?

[halcyon ermine]

yup, so are Tolians (i think), Starlancer (i think) and idk about the others. You can just test it by orbiting the moons

[hasty umbra]

nice

[sinful bobcat]

Solace from Starlancer is not set up

idk about the others tho

[covert pulsar]

Triskelion & Auralis are Audio's other 2 moons if you wanna see if they're paired

[sinful bobcat]

I asked Audio for compatibility with Celestial Tint and he said it will be added soon so

[covert pulsar]

I'd say Tolian & Wesley are at a tug of war for who can upload the most amount of maps but then Dafis makes a surprise reappearance with their wtfsoup of maps

[unreal berry]

Quality > Quantity

[cobalt shuttle]

yar

Tolian and Wesley's moons are pretty good but none of them really feel to fit in that well with vanilla personally

[unreal berry]

Definitely agreed

Actually ive yet to find a modded moon that emulates the style of the vanilla ones

[cobalt shuttle]

There are a couple, but not many. I'll dm you a list of the better ones when I'm at my pc if you want.

[unreal berry]

If theyre v50 compatible go right ahead

[sinful bobcat]

Have you tried Rosies' Moons?

They try to be vanilla looking moons

[unreal berry]

I thought they werent updated yet

[sinful bobcat]

They are

All LLL moons should work

[unreal berry]

Will check them out thanks

[cobalt shuttle]

Personally the newer versions of rosie's make them feel worse off than they were in earlier versions.

Newer releases have tanked performance and Eve has a ton of interior foliage garbage.

[unreal berry]

Im like 90% sure that the doors Rosie has blocking the entrances on her maps are broken in VR

So I cant use those moons unfortunately

[cobalt shuttle]

That sounds unnecessarily mean oop.
I mean to say that along with the sfDesat trio legacy versions of Eve and Affliction are really fun

[unreal berry]

Thats what im running right now

Mostly waiting on Infernis to be updated because thats by far my favorite modded moon

[sinful bobcat]

Infernis is so good

I like its ambiant music

[unreal berry]

That and its custom scrap

The lanterns are dope

Just the entire atmosphere wesley crafted for that moon is crazy good

[sinful bobcat]

true, I miss wesley's moons

[unreal berry]

Its the best of his collection imo

[cobalt shuttle]

Aye, it is.

The ambient sfx on the other moons along with the outside monster spawns feel super intrusive. Least noticeable on infernis.

Though yeah, it's part of their whole lore thing they have going

[unreal berry]

I have to agree

Infernis strikes a nice balance with the outdoor enemy count and the environment it has

[barren flare]

the rain sound is missing inside?

it's my wrongdoing (I don't know why lol), I'm gonna get it fixed

[steady imp]

the rain vfx disappears

[barren flare]

yeee

[steady imp]

it had aaaaaaaaaaaa i think none->rainy

[barren flare]

it's my oopsie moment

[steady imp]

or stormy

yeah

[barren flare]

alright, I think I know why, I'll look at it

[steady imp]

love the weather changing system btw

[turbid plaza]

Is there any bugs for these moons?

I know the crab one got fixed

[cobalt shuttle]

You can check the Issues tab of each moon's repo.

[turbid plaza]

Ah k

[cobalt shuttle]

https://github.com/sfDesat

[turbid plaza]

Okay seems like Orion and Celest are good besides the island moon having issues with compatibility with better spray paint which I think is the 2nd mod I know having issues with that mod-

Making hope for a fork of that mod-

[latent flax]

did the crab thing get fixed so that their sounds arent everywhere

[cobalt shuttle]

Aye, it sure did!

[latent flax]

good, means i can re add aquatis with no worries

and does celest have any issues that anyone knows of?

[covert pulsar]

Not that I can think of

[latent flax]

cool cool

[crimson geyser]

are those moons v50 compatible?

[covert pulsar]

Only moon I needed to axe is Serenity just cause it runs into an issue where eventually my unity client crashes from running out of memory

I'm unsure of which mod is causing Serenity to do that, I have a couple of reasons as to what it might be but unsure

Cause the interior at base only spawns Jester and that's it

So I also wonder if it's me doing something like introducing Hoarding Bugs to an interior that has a 0.9 map multiplier size that's causing it

[jaunty lintel]

huh

[covert pulsar]

I speculated incorrectly on what it might be now that I look back at it in retrospect, apologies

[jaunty lintel]

i just dont understand the message lol

[covert pulsar]

I'm thinking it's one of these:

• Due to its 0.9 map size, it's causing some strange behavior with some of the enemies that I forcefully added to the map with LQ (prob the most likely)
• Some functionality with vanilla v50 added and/or LLL 1.2.0 causing a conflict since it's technically built around an outdated build of LLL just hotfixed for v50

[jaunty lintel]

and/or LLL 1.2.0 causing a conflict since it's technically built around an outdated build of LLL just hotfixed for v50
wym by this

[covert pulsar]

Uh I might need to actually get a log and show what's going on

[jaunty lintel]

no

im just confused what that message means

[covert pulsar]

It probably would be appropriate to say I'm kinda grasping at straws as to trying to figure out what's causing my problem in Serenity since this is what I'm trying to do:

• Use LLL v1.2.0+ since the mod itself depends on LLLFixedv50
• Rebalance and change what enemies appear on the moon, such as Tulip Snakes, Butlers, etc. over what it currently provides

I'm trying to consider any sort of factors that I've introduced to see what might be causing something on the moon to eat up so much memory that unity just, crashes (which makes me go ???)

[jaunty lintel]

Use LLL v1.2.0+ since the mod itself depends on LLLFixedv50
i dont blame you but this is why i hate that that mod existed

because this isn't true

nothing that mod did was put into main LLL

my wip version of LLL was on v50 weeks before that came out 😛

[covert pulsar]

Hmm

I wonder if it's something that LLLFixedv50 did then that Serenity is built around, and since now it's absent, that's where some of my problems is originating from

[jaunty lintel]

no mods are built for LLLFixedv50

?

[covert pulsar]

Ah true...

I'm just, confused at what exactly is going on regarding this moon

I kinda wanted to add it into my pack cause I think it's a pretty neat vanilla-like addition but there defo is something going on and I think it's probably to blame with me introducing something that was never intended for the moon to begin with

First step I shouldn't be going about is assuming as to what it might be, especially since LLL isn't the one that's causing something

[rocky sundial]

i think the ocean moon texture on celestial tint should have little islands visible from orbit

[covert pulsar]

Would be a fun lil detail

[halcyon ermine]

@tulip kindle thoughts on this? i called it Argon. Let me know if you'd like some changes

[fleet pilot]

Any chance you're cooking up a earth-like planet too?🥺

[halcyon ermine]

i'll try. Currently the closest one is Rocky https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sfDesat/Celestial-Tint/main/Screenshots/Rocky.png

[frigid topaz]

This is really nice ;o I like it a lot

[fleet pilot]

Black Mesa technically takes place on earth so Plastered is waiting for that one 😄

[halcyon ermine]

earth-like will have to wait. The current system I have is not really setup for it. I will change the back end and then come back to it

[fleet pilot]

No rush, glad to see you're working on one 😄

The colors are perfect for Black Mesa too

[hasty umbra]

bro ct is so cool, the base game should definitely have something like it

[tulip kindle]

Sick! Aesthetically I kinda wanna see it a lil darker, but I also know realistically the sun is gonna make the top layer pretty bright 🤭

[hasty umbra]

is this for triskelion

[tulip kindle]

Yee

[hasty umbra]

coo

[turbid plaza]

Is there any bugs with your moons rn?

In terms of multiplayer?

[tulip kindle]

Not particularly. I can't remember if it's in the current release, but Auralis' water isn't working like I want, but that doesn't really have an effect on multiplayer itself

[turbid plaza]

in terms of function or just appearance?

[tulip kindle]

Function, I tried a change and it didn't take well, but I'll be working on updating stuff today

[turbid plaza]

ah k

[hasty umbra]

i like that u added this cuz it fits with Cosmocos as well

and tolians Nimbus a little too

[halcyon ermine]

cube.

[turbid plaza]

what is this bug? from LLL?

or just testing/debugging

[tropic pilot]

😨

[turbid plaza]

Am i able to set the crabs to spawn on another moon?

[turbid plaza]

Also I wanna set one of your moons to hidden mainly to act as a surprise or when a routing malfunction happens (malfunction mod)

[halcyon ermine]

no thats not possible, because of the way they are designed

[halcyon ermine]

in the LLL config there is an option for it

[turbid plaza]

ah okay that makes sense

[turbid plaza]

I know but mostly I was thinking lore/immersion wise-

So far I feel orion and aquatis would work well as hidden moons

[halcyon ermine]

thats fair and i agree with it, but i wont do that as standalone mods.

[turbid plaza]

yea LLL can do that for me in config settings-

though that seems like a pretty useless mod

lamo

[halcyon ermine]

you mean lll?

[turbid plaza]

yea-

I can set so far (only custom moons i'm sure of) as hidden-

[halcyon ermine]

i think you can set vanilla moons to hidden as well. And LLL is very crucial in a lot of things, but most things that players wont see directly

[turbid plaza]

ah k

[halcyon ermine]

ladder

[sinful bobcat]

Hey since you're supporting SpaceShipDoor
May ask if it'd be possible to fix the teleport zone so it works with the jetpack?
Because right now if you're using the jetpack and you fall, you'll just fall for eternity

[halcyon ermine]

i could try, but no garuantees

@jaunty lintel is there a way to know if a moon is loaded. I want to disable the spaceprops that i instance. And is there a way to know if a moon is unloaded, because i want to re-enable them.

Edit: fixed it

[tulip kindle]

a̶̎͝n̴̑͆ŏ̵͘m̵̆͝a̵̽̕l̸̐̀ỷ̴

ď̶͜ê̶͝t̴̑͂é̷̊c̴͒̚t̶̹̉ē̷d

[sullen olive]

Oh that would be a fun way to enter a level.
When falling from the ship and you reach the 'teleport zone'. Maybe instead of teleporting the player to safety. Just trigger the lever pulled event, and load into the level.

Then as the level loads, tp that player high into the scene, and let him fall from space all the way to the surface

If they have a jetpack they would be able to stop the fall, and probably get into the dungeon before the ship is done landing

A parachute item would also be cool to provide a cheaper alternative when using this entry method

[stray solstice]

just saw this, no idea if you fixed it but it'd just be making the audio source a 3d sound by turning the slider and making sure that the graph ends on 0 no matter what the range is

[halcyon ermine]

i did exactly that

[stray solstice]

lovely

[halcyon ermine]

sound cool, but is to difficult to make probably

[stray solstice]

it might sound fun, but painful for lobbies that arent solo lmao

[steady imp]

has anyone had dungeon desyncs on orion?

[steady imp]

3/3 landings 2 players had dungeon desyncs

FakeNitroEmoji

[sullen olive]

Ehh, i don't think it's any more painful than it would be without that feature.
After the first time, any player can pull the lever, so a troll will be able to load the level before people are ready, regardless.

Or how else would it be painful for lobbies? If that was not what you meant?

[rose roost]

@halcyon ermine @barren flare I did some testing on my own and the endless seed screen happens when loading into Orion even with SunAnimatorPatch from betaweathertweaks disabled. Had the same issue on a fresh profile as well, here's the log:

[rocky sundial]

gordion doesn't have the company texture in celestial tint

[frigid topaz]

Set it in the config

[stray solstice]

i generally just like jumping off and moving around, what if i accidently trigger it etc or someone else does

[sullen olive]

Well, Icarus flew too close to the planet and now we need to land the ship and go on a recovery mission.
I'm thinking it would be a separate mod, and not a feature in SpaceShipDoor.
So if you think that an accident like that would be a pain, just don't install that mod then

[halcyon ermine]

Celestial Tint [1.3.1]

• Added new tag: Argon
• Added config option for ShipDoorAccess (allow the door to be opened in orbit)
• Added config option for DebugLogging (if false, CT will not display anything in console)

[fleet pilot]

Does this mean SpaceShipDoor is no longer needed?

[halcyon ermine]

yes, its a custom implementation

[fleet pilot]

Nice 😄

[frigid topaz]

Another huge W from you sir 😄 keep up the good work

[frigid topaz]

Gonna be so cool if you get this working, will remove the need for SpaceSunShine c;

[barren flare]

I'm gonna fix it ASAP

[barren flare]

[03:01:13.1482021] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks GameInteraction] Setting weather for 41 Experimentation to None
[03:01:13.1482021] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks GameInteraction] Setting weather for 220 Assurance to Stormy
[03:01:13.1482021] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks GameInteraction] Setting weather for 56 Vow to None
[03:01:13.1482021] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks GameInteraction] Setting weather for 61 March to None
[03:01:13.1482021] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks GameInteraction] Setting weather for 20 Adamance to Stormy
[03:01:13.1482021] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks GameInteraction] Setting weather for 85 Rend to Stormy
[03:01:13.1482021] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks GameInteraction] Setting weather for 7 Dine to None
[03:01:13.1482021] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks GameInteraction] Setting weather for 21 Offense to None
[03:01:13.1482021] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks GameInteraction] Setting weather for 8 Titan to None
[03:01:13.1482021] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks GameInteraction] Setting weather for 68 Artifice to None
[03:01:13.1482021] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks GameInteraction] Setting weather for 44 Liquidation to Stormy
[03:01:13.1482021] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks GameInteraction] Setting weather for 5 Embrion to None
[03:01:13.1482021] [Warning:WeatherTweaks] Weather data for 43 Orion somehow not found, skipping

oh, it's bad bad

[frigid topaz]

I take it this issue doesn't happen with WeatherTweaks stable at least?

[barren flare]

this is method from Beta, so no

i'm working on a fix rn

[halcyon ermine]

i think i figured it out

[frigid topaz]

Ayyyyy

[barren flare]

I'm pretty sure i've fixed the issue - let me know if you'll still get it

[rose roost]

I'll test later today and will let you know

[halcyon ermine]

Celestial Tint [1.3.2]

• Added config option for DisplayShipParts (enables some ship parts that where disabled in orbit)

[fleet pilot]

Since you figured that out. Does that mean you know how to add things to orbit?😉

[tired basin]

it would be great if this mod could do what spaceshipdoor and spacesunshine does

[fleet pilot]

That's literally what he just added in the last two patches🙃

[tired basin]

its missing ladder and floodlights tho

[fleet pilot]

Are you on 1.3.2 and have the config option enabled?

[tired basin]

i see it hasnt updated on r2 yet

[fleet pilot]

That is why then😂

[tired basin]

thanks for the troubleshooting

anyway thats a great update, feels good to remove 2 mods

[halcyon ermine]

Yup a side effect of another project of mine

[fleet pilot]

I can't wait to see what you cook up🤩 if you need a tester you know where to find me😁

[lucid juniper]

Waiting for parkour course on orbit 🤙

[stray solstice]

Next tutorial is gonna be in the background of one of those minecraft parkour spirals except its sf's parkour course

[ivory belfry]

🙏 i cant focus without it

[turbid plaza]

is there issues with sfdesat's moons?

[ruby wyvern]

i love celestial tint

is just that it relies on LethalLevelLoader

and is networked, which means, no vanilla support

i hope the maker makes a option to be vanilla only which does not use that dependency

[halcyon ermine]

i think i could do that

[ruby wyvern]

please do

people want vanilla support

im going to try to do it as well to not use LethalLevelLoader

also i noticed another thing, when the ship changes moon, there's no animations, just goes blank outside, maybe someday in future this could be improved

[halcyon ermine]

there was an animation, but it got broken so i'll try to fix that as well

[ruby wyvern]

thanks! i tried but i have no idea how to parse the level names differently from LethalLevelLib

ill wait for the update

[halcyon ermine]

Celestial Tint [1.4.0]

• Removed dependency on LethalLevelLoader (it now works standalone)
• Fixed some debug messages getting displayed

[ruby wyvern]

yay!

ill wait for thunderstore's update

[tired basin]

is it supposed to be so blurry

[halcyon ermine]

do you have viewextension and if so what distance did you set it to?

[tired basin]

i think its default 1500 or something

i changed to 2500 but there is no difference

[halcyon ermine]

can you try 400? i'll upload a possible fix if that doesnt work

[tired basin]

still blurry

[halcyon ermine]

Celestial Tint [1.4.1]

• Added config option for VanillaMode (add the vanilla planets outside. Illusion may break when using ShipDoorAccess)
• Fixed screen getting blurry

[inland monolith]

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[sinful bobcat]

So looks like updating resets the config

I need to type all my moons with planet tags again

[halcyon ermine]

😳

[halcyon ermine]

send a code

[fleet pilot]

This is why I have a text file with all my config settings in it. Highly recommend

[halcyon ermine]

i wont update the configs anymore. only gonna fix the compatibility issue if its fixable

[sinful bobcat]

I should probably do that

[fleet pilot]

For everything that's long but LLL I have the config in another file somewhere. For LLL I just use a spreadsheet 😂

[sinful bobcat]

Yeah I already had a spreadsheet for the interiors, will do a file for my other configs now

[fleet pilot]

It's saved my ass quite a few times😅

[inland monolith]

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[halcyon ermine]

remove spaceshipdoor and spacesunshine

[halcyon ermine]

what do you mean with darmuhsTerminalStuff? does the terminal break?

[inland monolith]

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[halcyon ermine]

226 mods damn

[inland monolith]

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[halcyon ermine]

i dont have any issues. can you see if there is still a problem when removing the two space mods?

[inland monolith]

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[halcyon ermine]

what is your LLL version? 1.2+?

[inland monolith]

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[halcyon ermine]

is LethalLevelLoader and LethalLib on the latest version?

[inland monolith]

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[halcyon ermine]

that is the issue i think

[inland monolith]

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[halcyon ermine]

use CT1.1.12 if you dont have LLL1.2

[inland monolith]

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[hasty umbra]

no look at general at the bottom in the config

[sinful bobcat]

?

Bruh I see now

There's a duplicated field in r2modman that doesn't get shown in LethalConfig

[hasty umbra]

yea lol

i just copy and pasted it into the empty one at the top and deleted the text at the bottom one

[halcyon ermine]

try disabling immersive visor

The blur happens because of a depth of field effect. If ViewExtension is set very high for example or maybe Immersive Visor changed some things

[rose roost]

@barren flare It works now

[barren flare]

YIPPEE 😇

[rose roost]

YIPPEE

[turbid plaza]

How is it fixed?

[tired basin]

i still have the blur as well and i dont have immersive visor

[rocky sundial]

didn't work, have it as Company@Company

[frigid topaz]

It needs to be

Gordion@Company

[rocky sundial]

[dark marsh]

how can i find the internal moon name for PiggyLcOffice?

[hasty umbra]

lc office not a moon

[dark marsh]

oh sorry i misspeled

i meant sfDesat´s moons

[hasty umbra]

orion, celest, and aquatis

[dark marsh]

that´s the internal names you can put on interior list?

[hasty umbra]

yep

[inland monolith]

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[river urchin]

isn't the blur because of diversity??

[inland monolith]

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[river urchin]

idk but when I disabled the concussed and blinded effect from steam, my gf stopped having it

[inland monolith]

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[river urchin]

Diversity is broken rn

a lot of its features bug easily

[inland monolith]

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[river urchin]

bracken's personal space can sometimes break and make a player invincible for the rest of the session

[inland monolith]

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[river urchin]

That's interesting, still don't know if i'm going to re-enable them cause the blinding effect works half the time lol

[inland monolith]

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[river urchin]

Idk, for us, the blur was always accompanied with a slight red filter so I just deactivated both to be sure

[peak garden]

Yeah the effects breaks all the time. Permanently blind, or permanently blurred vision and breaking the UI, you have to launch the game again

[tired basin]

for some reason i still have the blur

[tired basin]

the blur got removed when disabling viewextention and removing cfg

then activate it again

so its fine now

[tired basin]

is it a moon or for celestial tint 😮

[halcyon ermine]

neither?

[tired basin]

new scrap

[lusty bridge]

Bah

[frigid topaz]

@halcyon ermine so there is a bug with the DisplayShipParts setting, after landing on a planet and going back in orbit they don't reappear again

[halcyon ermine]

Celestial Tint [1.4.2]

• Added a incompatibilty warning with SpaceSunShine and SpaceShipDoor
• Fixed a bug where DisplayShipParts wouldnt appear after landing

[frigid topaz]

👍

[maiden egret]

is it possible to delay the teleportation while jumping off the ship when in space? doing freefall might be fun 😄

[steady imp]

no moon would ever top this

[ruby wyvern]

yeah i removed them both once i found out it has the same functionality

[turbid plaza]

Is the crab breaking the bestiary fixed?

[steady imp]

o

[steady imp]

they do have value apparently but i dont see it

[lusty bridge]

😭😭

[cerulean jewel]

Baboon bitches

https://tenor.com/view/packwatch-gif-22219180

Aquatis is literally the perfect vacation nightmare

The baboon hawk buff is the most cruel thing Zeekers could have done

I love that there is no other danger but the babooon hawks and maybe a giant

[halcyon ermine]

it shouldnt

[halcyon ermine]

maybe, i'll look at it

[turbid plaza]

Well I used the pack version-

I might check if it's fixed in the standalone version-

If not then probably is broken in the pack-

[halcyon ermine]

the crab doesnt interact with the bestiary

it says that its added to it, but it is not

this is the best i can come up with

Thistle Nebula (solar system or galaxy)

No Service - Vow, March, Adamance (referred to as the "Green witches")
(gas giant) Big Grin - Experimentation, Assurance (Exp and Ass are twins), Offense (broken off from Ass, asteroid moon)
(white dwarf star) - Dine, Rend (exact same entry)
Gordion - possible planet

Unkown - Embrion, Titan, Artifice, Liquidation

[latent flax]

heheheh ass (im very mature)

anyways uhhh my friends really loved the crabs

all i wanted to say

[turbid plaza]

this is what I mean't by bug-

So I might not use Aquatis until that's fixed-

[tranquil tide]

Not an sfDesat moon exclusive issue as far as I know

beastiary breaks on one of my packs too and there are no custom moons in it

[rocky sundial]

do you have moreinteriors or sentinel?

[tranquil tide]

nope!

I have no LLL things lmao

[marsh lark]

I'm fairly certain that's not an sfDesat issue though could be part of it

My theory is that at some point the bestiary entries overflow with new entities or unloggables and this breaks it

It's a wee annoying but nothing too game breaking

[split olive]

there used to be a travelling animation when routing to a moon, is that gone with v50 or is it a specific config setting?

[hasty umbra]

i think thats diversitys cut scene?

[split olive]

Nope, not diversity or it's cutscene mod. The animation was very simple, just the ship moving in closer to the moon, or at least the illusion of it.

Now it just turns pitch black

Maybe this was part ShipDoors?

I'll test this

[peak garden]

I still have one, I dont use ShipDoors but celestial tints

[hasty umbra]

i have no idea what that is then

oh u mean celestial tint

nvm

[split olive]

Sorry- yes, forgot to mention, this is about celestial tint!

[hasty umbra]

yea thats getting fixed soon i think

[fleet pilot]

I'm pretty sure it broke when updating to v50, I'm sure it'll be added back at some point

[split olive]

Ah, I see. Thank you very much for the clarification. Appreciate it!

[wraith elk]

will work on the spacestation moon continue?

[halcyon ermine]

yup

[wraith elk]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-gif-8902759962099812595

Space is cool

[sinful bobcat]

This error keep getting spammed on Celest

Code : 018f4ae6-14cf-21ad-3e62-4d28c10d7e19

[halcyon ermine]

this is not spacestation moon btw ^

[tranquil tide]

PEAKK

[halcyon ermine]

only the real OG's now what this is

[stray solstice]

Is that orion before whatever destroyed it

[halcyon ermine]

something like that, but i think it was the first upload of Orion

[stray solstice]

Ooooh

Why did u go from this to the flat orion lmao

[halcyon ermine]

i dont think you understand how wildly different every upload was at the start lol

it has gone through a lot of changes

[tranquil girder]

Orion-A

[halcyon ermine]

0.1: is the oldest working version

0.2: this was the next update

0.3: another itteration lol

0.4: hmmm this one might be the best, maybe ill change the current version

0.5: never got the sense that you are in-between massive buildings back

should i change the current version, so the sense of that scale is back? The feeling that you are sandwiched in-between massive torn-down buildings?

[marsh lark]

I haven't played on Orion in a while but I felt like the surrounding massive towers already achieve that effect pretty well 🤔

[clever night]

I would love to have a Orion overhaul some elevation changes and maybe fire exists in the abandoned buildings would be nice! It's a dangerous moon with lots of outside monsters having buildings to hide from worms and giants would be cool

[clever night]

I personally really like the 0.3 iteration, reminds me of WALL-E

[marsh lark]

I find 0.3 too empty, and aimless in terms of aesthetic: like the buildings are placed for the sake of it

Modern Orion has this distinct feeling of oppression from the huge and imposing structures that surround the play area

[untold totem]

i forgot what celest’s old version looked like

but i remember it being pretty good

i was suprised when it was changed

[lapis turret]

Is it normal for the animations not to work for celestial tint?

[regal grail]

A giant field of trees & flowers, with a bunker to the north, south-east & west. I liked it but my friends got lost there a lot. They heavily enjoy the pathing of new celest in comparison.

[sinful bobcat]

I honestly think that Orion is perfect as is

[cobalt shuttle]

It is really good as-is, but as is pretty apparent the older generations are practically different maps.

I have the fondest memories with 0.4, it having reached a point where it felt much more fleshed out

Though I really do miss that feeling you got being between the giant ruined buildings on 0.5

Really do not think Orion needs changing again, but maybe instead we could have a new moon that uses a layout derived from 0.4 but also has ruin placement to bring back the uniqueness 0.5 had.

[sullen olive]

With the new LLL feature of multiple scenes per moon.
All the versions of Orion could have a low chance of being loaded

And if you think that 0.4 was peak, then that scene could have a higher chance than most

Going off of the pictures above. I like how 0.1 and 0.3 looked

other than the unfinished-ness of 0.1, it would be cool to be like:
It's rare to find an area on Orion that was preserved this well.

[tranquil tide]

yeah same

I think the only thing i'd change is maybe putting a building or two closer to the path to the facility

if people complain about it being like, two flat or whatever

[stray solstice]

i think its too flat

im complaining

waawaa

/s

[covert pulsar]

0.2 is the earliest iteration I've seen of Orion, back then when there was hardly any custom moons lols

[halcyon ermine]

sfDesat collection has been deprecated

Spacestation has been deprecated

and thank you for everyone's input on Orion

[tranquil girder]

... why?

[halcyon ermine]

you can still download it. Just no more updates. https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/sfDesat/sfDesat/

[tranquil girder]

i just like having em as one singular mod XD

[halcyon ermine]

My moons will also not receive an update for a while so it wont be outdated

[tranquil girder]

good good good

[hasty umbra]

wait so we should just download the individuals now?

[sinful bobcat]

He answered just above

[hasty umbra]

yea but i dont wanna miss an update in the future cuz i dont have the individuals, even if it will be a while until theyre updated again

when the time comes for new updates, and the collection isnt updated, we will have to download the individuals anyways, so ig ill just do that now

[hasty umbra]

is spacestation deprecated cuz your developing it more now and it will cause a lot of bugs if the experimental updates were to be public?

[halcyon ermine]

i wont update the individual moons for a while so the latest sfdesat collection version will remain the most recent

[halcyon ermine]

i am putting spacestation down a different road. It wont be released as standalone for now.

Spacestation has very deep story ties to Freedom, so its difficult to update without revealing story aspects

[sinful bobcat]

So you've actually been updating it on your side

[halcyon ermine]

oh yes

[hasty umbra]

so i should uninstall spacestation then?

[halcyon ermine]

Do what you want, but I’m not going to update it for a while

[hasty umbra]

ok, so it will be updated eventually ill keep it then, just wasnt sure if it was gonna be gotten rid of and put in a new collection instead or something 👍

[halcyon ermine]

It won’t be updated for a very long time, if that is the only reason you want to keep it

[hasty umbra]

thats ok

as long as it comes before 2026 lol

[rocky sundial]

would it be possible to add a none preset for celestial tint? no planet, just space?

[cyan cosmos]

desat whats up with your... new mod

[hasty umbra]

yea is it a moon or something?

[cyan cosmos]

cant launch after loading it, access must be denied or something

[hasty umbra]

lol

must be wip

[cyan cosmos]

mod named access denied, bricks pc. I dont know what I expected

[warm stone]

is there a replacement for the sfdesat pack? says its deprecated

[hasty umbra]

still works

[warm stone]

coolio

[hasty umbra]

its a bit misleading but its just cuz it wont be updated anymore

[warm stone]

rip

[hasty umbra]

the individual moons will, but not for a while

[cerulean jewel]

I dont

[untold totem]

well that's new

[cerulean jewel]

Understand

why you deprecated sfdesat moons

[untold totem]

my assumption

the space station's going into it

[untold totem]

also it's weird to have Dryad in the modpack sfdesat posted

bc it's not even done

[cerulean jewel]

but he said he wont update it for awhile

[untold totem]

it's just a bunch of hills and like 4 jetpacks

with the main and emergency exit assets right next to the ship

[halcyon ermine]

no comment

[wraith elk]

This reminds me of the topic of a bigger ship.. a distant dream 😿

[wraith elk]

Ferris wheel :o

[tranquil tide]

apparently they're not gonna be updated for a while

deprecrated just means there won't be any updates anytime soon, no?

[untold totem]

The deprecated label usually means it’s something that’s

A) Out of order/not being maintained anymore, such as the InsanityRemastered mod

Or

B) Replaced by something else/is now Unnecessary, such as LC API or Runtime Netcode RPC

[tranquil tide]

yeah i have a hard time justifying it too

[untold totem]

if sfdesat’s moons is deprecated, it may fall under that latter definition of it being replaced

Probably with a different version, though we won’t really know when that version will come out

[tranquil tide]

no i think he literally said he wouldn't be updating them for a while

[tranquil tide]

.

[sinful bobcat]

He also did say that it will be replaced

He actually already replaced it

with "Freedom DLC"

[tranquil tide]

ohhh

i'm all for more sf lore, fuck yeah

[livid arrow]

@halcyon ermine

Feature Request.
Empty space Tag, and/or Debris Field Tag.

Needed for moons like "Last Knows Position Of Cosmocos" where there is no actual Moon to land on. As well as moons that will be a Space Station in the near future.

[marsh lark]

good idea actually

Debris Field could work for things like USC Vortex too

[halcyon ermine]

i could look at it

[tranquil girder]

shame that mod is trapped on LE :[

[marsh lark]

yeah...

but hey, means the spaceship niche is open :D

[halcyon ermine]

I want to hear your opinion. I am working on something called Freedom, a story expansion to the game. It features new places to explore, a full story line (build on the base game), new enemies (hopefully), new weapons (no promises) and more. Its a very ambitious project. This means that it will take a long time to make, weeks if not months. So to prevent a complete drought I could release some parts earlier and drip-feed more bits over time. The problem with this is that I have already made everything that doesn't involve the story. So if I pre-release, you will see/experience an uncomplete/untested story most of the time. During this period I could even go back to older parts and rework them. It's a lesser experience than if you saw everything for the first time. It will include game-breaking bugs and badly designed places that take away from the immersion, which is a priority in this project. On the other hand, I don't want to make a complete drought and testing can speed up development significantly.

Vote in the poll below

[stray solstice]

i think you should release things even if it feels a lil dry and stuff like that, itll build up a bit of hype and it'll give you motivation to work on it and tease things without getting the urge to quit in the middle

[wanton vessel]

interesting

[stray solstice]

im also doing something very similar and planning on releasing small bits over time for #1234940026874368170, woulda asked you to come help work on it if i knew you'd be interested in a big project 🤭

[stray solstice]

unmarked? how so?

[halcyon ermine]

as like a beta mod (calling it XIASGFAODIFSK or whatever), so most people wont know what it is and i can release the finished project to thunderstore seperately

[stray solstice]

ah

[wind trail]

I like the idea of keeping it unmarked as you put it. Those who want to seek it out and help will find it and will probably be more willing to cooperate with bug fixing and feedback.

[halcyon ermine]

Celestial Tint [1.4.3]

• Fixed interior lighting
• Improved planet simulation

[lapis turret]

Dose this fix planet animations?

[tardy grove]

Is there any way to use the ship windows skybox with the moon objects from this mod?

[halcyon ermine]

The people have spoken. I'll release chapters that slowly expand and unravel the story. If I release a chapter that doesn't mean that part is completely done. I will probably still make changes to older chapters. teaser:

[stray solstice]

that looks lovely, the interior?

[latent flax]

oh shit new interior

[halcyon ermine]

no

[latent flax]

oh shit not a new interior

[halcyon ermine]

way better

[stray solstice]

Looks super cool tho

Lmk if you need any help with stuff like enemies

[latent flax]

bro is making an exterior idk

looks neat tho

[jolly flame]

@halcyon ermine Celest seems to have some wonky navmesh business with the landed ship. Eyeless Dogs literally cannot get on board, and instead just run under the ship harmlessly with their models clipping halfway up through the floor, totally unable to attack a noisy player inside.
Any hope of this getting a fix soon or are you focused on other works?

[sinful bobcat]

Maybe a Hub?

Like thered be a ship in each hole and they would send you to a different moon

[halcyon ermine]

it'll be a minute before any updates

[jolly flame]

😭

that's okay, Celest is awesome, one of the finer custom moons in all the ones I've come across, still earns its place in my lore-fitting quality-centric modpack

[livid arrow]

@halcyon ermine
Why?

[stray solstice]

#1198736199297286196 message

read from there

[mellow vine]

Are crabs breaking the bestiary?
I ask because rats from MoreInteriors did it before and they are very similar. I'm seeing this again now. I guess it could also be some custom enemy. Since I don't think I had scanned any besides crabs tho..

[halcyon ermine]

they shouldnt, because they dont interact with the bestiary in any way

[mellow vine]

Alright, thanks. Then it's probably some enemy ig. I'll have to keep looking

[latent flax]

not sure who this goes to so sending this to both you and rosie but in cozy office on celest, my crew is getting this despite me being able to go through perfectly fine

like the fire exit isnt blocked at all and im able to go through but my crewmates are

[lusty bridge]

CozyOffice

[latent flax]

ah k

[tardy grove]

why does that happen?

[lusty bridge]

😅

Absolutely no clue

It started happening when I ported from v49 to v50

[tardy grove]

did you check it out with unity editor?

[lusty bridge]

So im just going to remake some things and hope it works

[tardy grove]

my first idea would be that the tile itself didn't generate but fire exits are hard to not spawn since there is usally a lot of valid nodes for them

[lusty bridge]

sadly not

The main entrance & all fire exits generate, just not all work

only 1 exit works from what I recall

[tardy grove]

hm, is it built into vanilla to give that message? Do we really know what it means?

[stray solstice]

It means the inside fire exit couldn't find an outside fire exit to match itself to

[wraith elk]

@thorny anvil I dont think this should happen xD

[distant fern]

bit late to the party, but i dont think its cozyoffice.

I had the toystore on Aquatis, had the same issue, blocked entrances/fire escapes, me as the host, it worked fine, but my friend had all entrances blocked, except one... they went into that one.. and fell through the floor.

I knew id read something about blocked entrances/exits but only found the chatter here just now.. ive played cozyoffice and wesleys interior on other moons fine.

so as far as i know,
Toystore on Aquatis doesnt work as mentioned above, seems more like an aquatis thing...
toystore on experimentation works
cozyoffice on adamance and etern works.

[lusty bridge]

it is cozyoffice, but maybe toystore has the same issue idk

[lusty bridge]

its known iirc

[distant fern]

i d k, but its weird it only happened on aquatis both cases.

[lusty bridge]

not sure

[fleet pilot]

That's caused by some mod you have that modifies the position of the ship clipboard. He's working on a fix👍

[thorny anvil]

as much as it is a bug, I think this is hilarious lmao

yeah looking at it 😛

[reef geode]

hey ehm, why is the mod including all the moons deprecated ? ;_;

[wraith elk]

#1198736199297286196 message

[reef geode]

oh ok thanks

[mellow vine]

I just tested this cause I had the opportunity on a new save and I think crabs not touching the bestiary is exactly what's causing it. When scanning the crab you still get the message pop-up about stuff being sent to the terminal and then when you try to open the bestiary it index out of bounds errors, ig because there's no bestiary entry for that ID, and then the entire thing breaks.

[reef geode]

well... looks like moons are broken :c
when playing with my friend, we had dungeon desync when landing on aquatis and orion. so i know moons will not get updated for a long time, im just reporting stuff

[distant fern]

#1198736199297286196 message

yup, which is what i said xD

[reef geode]

a

[sinful bobcat]

Ae you guys playing with the moonpack? Beause I played with it a lot since it last updated and dind't hve any desyncs

Unless you are saying that it is the latest LLL update that broke it

I didn't play with 1.2.3 yet

I have Bunker on Aquatis , Sewer on Celest, and Scarlet on Orion; didn't have a single desync

[distant fern]

i was using just aquatis + orion
i d k what the issue was, all i knew is it was on aquatis and people reporting similar, the interior used was working fine elsewhere.

[empty needle]

Is it normal that when orbiting the Company moon it looks like this from above? I thought it was supposed to be covered by clouds like in the preview for the Company tag (2nd pic).

[twilit tiger]

i cant go to orion with my modpack 018f9d8e-aa4f-bcc9-61f1-40113ca17b67

gets stuck on seed generation

[clever night]

True, I've always gotten the wasteland moon for the company as well!

[warped kernel]

any way you could expand aquatis' borders a bit? its possible with certain mods to run out into the ocean and fall out of the world and into the floor barrier, tp'ing yourself back to the ship in the process

or what happened to me a bunch was a giant specimens' driftwood giant can yeet you out of the border of the map at a few places bc the ocean floor doesnt extend that far

[shadow valley]

Just wanted to share that i always get this error when i depart from a moon of yours no matter if its Aqua, Celest or Orion. This error pops up after i got my xp and summary of the level and i get always like teleported into the middle of my ship afterwards.

Note: Also no custom interiors seleceted on this moon (i have installed some but theyre not activated on those moons)

• Moreinteriors
• Scoopys_Variety
• Poolrooms
• ScarletDevilMansion if that helps....

[frigid topaz]

@halcyon ermine So it seems setting ViewExtension above 1500 causes Celestial Tint to become really blurry, I had to change it to 2500 for the new update for Rosie's Moons due to the changes she did to Affliction 🥺

[lusty bridge]

I wonder if there’s even a fix for that hmm

Might just be a quirk of high render distance

[tawdry stone]

Hello ! Can someone help me with some errors I'm getting please ? 🙏
Is this error a big deal or not ?
[Error : Unity Log] [Celestial Tint Loader] AssetBundle is not loaded. Unable to replace prefabs.

[real bone]

Hello, @tawdry stone, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[tawdry stone]

Is my message deleted ? I got a message from "The Company" x)

[hasty umbra]

can u use celestial tint in vanilla public lobbies when u turn on vanilla mode?

[halcyon ermine]

I just want to say that i'm stepping away from Lethal Company. Maybe I will return someday, but that is not a promise. As for what can happen to my mods:

EDIT: I am changing what can happen to my mods. Forks are now only allowed after contacting me personally. Then you are allowed to upload a fork as long as it wont be monetized and there has been reasonable change (no reuploads, unless specified). Sourcecode is on their respective github pages.

[hasty umbra]

thanks for your moons

@wanton vessel idk if ur interested in taking any of this on, but pinged just in case

or @tropic pilot lol idk if u would either

so sry for ping

sorry to bug u after ur done with lethal but, do u know answer to this?

[hasty umbra]

.

[tropic pilot]

/jeb pin [message link]
iirc

[halcyon ermine]

yes you should be able to

[hasty umbra]

what was Freedom dlc anyway

[fleet pilot]

Best of luck to your future endeavors ❤️

[hasty umbra]

@boreal hill maybe now u can manage windows and celestial tint lol

[frigid topaz]

@wanton vessel maybe you might be interested in taking up the moons?

[hasty umbra]

.

[wanton vessel]

yep

[weak flax]

another one bites the dust

[hasty umbra]

tolian will eventually own the whole moon industry lol

[wanton vessel]

then i'll get to it soon

[weak flax]

neither can i

I have no permissions except a fancy cool color

[wanton vessel]

@halcyon ermine do you mind?

[halcyon ermine]

I consider them almost done myself. Some things i had left to do:

• Aquatis: Lay planks near scaffolding
• Aquatis/Orion: Footprints
• Celest: Investigate Navmesh dogs on ship
  I dont remember if there are Freedom elements still on them.

[wanton vessel]

do you have unity project?

it would be nice to get the original files

[gaunt ingot]

Take care ❤️

[halcyon ermine]

its 10Gb+ when stripped down to essentials, I have just one Unity project with everything in it

[wanton vessel]

my project with all 16+ moons weighs 140gb😂

[wanton vessel]

It would be nice if you could throw me this

[frigid topaz]

@hollow gust Maybe you might be interested in Forking ViewExtension?

I remember you wanted to implement a few changes to it if possible

[hollow gust]

I don't really see a need to, I doubt it'll break

[frigid topaz]

Fair

I just remembered you wanted it to not increase view range inside interiors

lol

[hollow gust]

well, CullFactory already does what ViewExtension does in a better way, it just has to be configured

so I'd rather people just configure CullFactory to do what they need, or add an API to it for mods that want to change the view distance per moon

[boreal hill]

If there is interest I will upload a unity package.
That would be nice 🙂

[frigid topaz]

You could add an API that would work ^^

[hollow gust]

the downside is that it has to be configured before it does what the mods that depend on ViewExtension needs, but for modpack authors it works

[frigid topaz]

Yeah

API would work though cus I know @lusty bridge needs extra view range setup for Affliction cus of the rings on the planet hovering it, the downside is it causes some things to become blurry most noticeable when in orbit

So having an API where a specific moon can setup it's own view distance

That would be amazing

[hollow gust]

if the view distance needs to increase much past what it already is with ViewExtension, I'd say it's likely she needs to come up with a different solution

there are downsides to increasing the view distance

[frigid topaz]

Yeah the blurry stuff started when I upped it to 2500 from 1500 lol

It's almost like the game has a bit of a distance cap in some way

[halcyon ermine]

that is the depth of field

[frigid topaz]

Oh lol

[hollow gust]

I would assume that means that some floating point error in the depth buffer is causing it to think that things are closer than they are, and that wouldn't surprise me

[halcyon ermine]

in the calculations for the depth of field for the helmet it overcompensates when the view distance is far and also blurs the distance

[hollow gust]

the worse aspect would be if things start z-fighting

[frigid topaz]

I was wondering why Celestial Tint became ungodly blurry when increasing ViewExtension XD

[hollow gust]

oh, it's blurring distant objects? that's weird

[halcyon ermine]

no, everything beyong a certain distance

[hollow gust]

curious

[frigid topaz]

I think it's defaulted at 1500 since that's the max you can do before DOF goes brrr from what I'm understanding

[halcyon ermine]

no i chose that randomly, i noticed the problem when i tried adding meteor showers to CT

[frigid topaz]

ahhhh lol

We're all gonna miss you btw bud, ty for all you've done 💜 it's a shame to have to see both you and Veri step back so close together but I also get it

[hollow gust]

generally, it's better to attach a sphere to the camera (probably by copying the position in LateUpdate()) so that it follows the camera and appears to be at a far distance

the reason being that distant objects appear to be stationary, and if you simulate that it will work as an optical illusion for the same thing

you also end up with less geometry compared to modeling a planet or whatever in the sky

[frigid topaz]

I will say the same DOF problem occurs with CullFactory and ViewExtension disabled for what it's worth

lol

if I mimic the settings

[hollow gust]

you mean with CullFactory enabled?

[frigid topaz]

Yeah distance culling set to 2500 has the same thing

[hollow gust]

I would've assumed that would be the case, far plane distance is far plane distance

[frigid topaz]

ye

[stray solstice]

rip, it feels like it was just yesterday i was inviting u here 😔, come back and hangout whenever :p

[steady imp]

ah damn, quite sad to see you leave the modding scene, still thanks a lot for the moons you've made and good luck with your future endeavours 🫡

[south bloom]

thanks for your contributions to lc modding, sf desat. 🫡

[tranquil tide]

thank you for everything man, take care <3

[barren flare]

take care @halcyon ermine 🫡

thank you for being a big part of this community 😇

[jaunty lintel]

Wish you the best my friend, I'd suggest having this on a README on your mod files too. Not good longterm to have this kind of message in a discord server as it can be lost