LC_Office / LC_Shrimp

[strong thunder]

logs + pack code (optionally) or i can't do much

[midnight sable]

as a wise sticker once said

[mental shale]

Modlist:

Total:12
HookGenPatcher
BepInExPack
OdinSerializer
LethalNetworkAPI
LethalCompany_InputUtils
Imperium
LethalModDataLib
FixPluginTypesSerialization
JLL(Jacob's Lethal Libraries)
LethalLevelLoader
DungeonGenerationPlus
LC_Office

Dependency strings:

Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
Lordfirespeed-OdinSerializer-2024.2.2700
xilophor-LethalNetworkAPI-3.3.2
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.7.10
giosuel-Imperium-1.0.0
MaxWasUnavailable-LethalModDataLib-1.2.2
Evaisa-FixPluginTypesSerialization-1.1.2
JacobG5-JLL-1.9.7
IAmBatby-LethalLevelLoader-1.4.11
Alice-DungeonGenerationPlus-1.4.1
Piggy-LC_Office-2.2.1 

Mb for didn't posting it earlier

[stuck glade]

https://tenor.com/view/vesuvius-baby-baby-ash-gif-2339947883921805569

hate that

[azure comet]

It's probably Imperium breaking it tbh, why do you have that for a normal mod pack for playing anyways?

[mental shale]

I was playing this mod with my friends, without imperium (just disabled it, more precisely)
And then this bug happened while we had no idea why, so I dragged it into my testing mod, where there's only imperium, office, and any other dependencies

[azure comet]

Maybe they had soft masking errors so stuff was breaking for them?

You should have DiFFoZTweaks incase

[tiny wave]

it wouldnt be soft masking

he'd get the errors too

[mental shale]

I tried but unfortunately it doesn't seems to work

[azure comet]

It's weird cus I've had no issues with LC Office

and this profile is small and I see nothing that would stand out

maybe a corrupted config?

[mental shale]

How do you rebuild the config?
Do you just go to the files and delete them?

[azure comet]

Yeah

[mental shale]

Just to make sure, is the path should be looking like this?
... > Profile > (Your profile) > BepinEx > cache

[midnight sable]

if youre looking for configs its BepinEx > config

[mental shale]

Will try it out, ty

[tawny thunder]

My friend and I had the same issue last night, we downgraded lc office one version and the elevator started working as intended

We did 2.2.0

[queen jasper]

the day has come

i'll be back on <t:1797970380:d>

as always, jacob will be maintaining the mod. he seems busy lately so please don't rush him 🫡

[hot cloud]

work on your game!!!

/pos

[turbid bramble]

Hello,

I have the very same issue in my modpack. I didn't noticed at first because I use many interiors so it is not selected often, but each time the interior is selected, ship landing does not trigger and party is soft locked until restart.

No issue with 1.2.7, it start from 2.0.0 (I tested all versions from this point)

I don't have the issue if I start a fresh profile with only this interior and dependencies so I guess there is some kind of incompatibilty with another mod but I don't find which one (202 mods so it will take a long time to disable one by one and test ...)

Does anyone had this issue and have a clue about it ?

I can provide logs, but didn't find a specific stack trace that could explain the issue, so I kept everything from dungeon generation to the end (around 3000 lines), what is the best way to share it ?

[azure comet]

Have you both tried to regen your LLL configs? Sometimes LLL bugs out and you have to regen the config to make interiors work properly

[turbid bramble]

Yes, I tested it just before downgrading into 1.2.7 and it didn't change the issue unfortunately :/

[ornate forge]

probably best to just copy paste here and let discord send it as a message.txt

either way some more details could help. moon specific? multiplayer only?

modlist mayb

[arctic mist]

Ngl I might try this interior again, is there any issues with it?

the office interior

[spare sinew]

elevator

[arctic mist]

?

[spare sinew]

⬆️

[arctic mist]

oh okay that's fucking halarious and bad

[spare sinew]

it doesn't happen much

but when it happens is crazy

everything else is good

[prime socket]

quantum coilhead goes hard

[turbid bramble]

Finally, no need for more investigations, I find out after more and more testing the origin of the issue was Diversity.

And the mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/v0xx/DiversityNoFloppy/ fix the issue with LC Office so it works now 😄

[midnight sable]

i think the mimics compatibility is a bit broken lol

[spare sinew]

yeah i also talked about this a while back

its just that the walls don't give them personal space so they get angry and remove a bit of the wall hehe

[midnight sable]

[vast grail]

you can remove office from the whitelist in mimic config iirc

[spare sinew]

well yeah but i think the idea would be to have it the other way :3

but yeah for the time being

[vast grail]

eh, sorta both ways, since mimics shouldnt have office included by default in their list of interiors (I believe it's because double-wides used to be much rarer before the rework)

[spare sinew]

yeah, tho i think double wides still are pretty rare

but yeah the idea would be to fix it in some way but idk if its possible

someone said that its on the interior author to fix, idk how real is that

[vast grail]

I think interior authors can fix it but they need to basically make their own mimic asset iirc

[spare sinew]

really??? oh crazy

i know circus facility has that

but didn't know everyone had to make their own assets

[vast grail]

yeah this was it, bozoros has its own mimic
#1196943144009351258 message

[spare sinew]

oh yeah they were replying to a reply to me haha

still sad :c

you would think its just the same door but spawning in a place where it can fit

but its much harder than that

😔

[steel quarry]

So the entire time it was Diversity causing problems? Huh. What'd ya know. Im gonna try this mod later and ill lyk aswell if it also fixes for me, Thank You!

[steel quarry]

Genuienly cannot thank you enough this actually worked! Thank you again!!

[spare sinew]

Update?? :0

[strong thunder]

uploaded a smaller update. no code changes but I added map radars, a warning sign to the metal detector, added some scan nodes, and replaced a lot of probuilder shapes with regular meshes

it's no longer a dark void on v70 ship radar tho :D

[spare sinew]

Yay!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/catto-gif-17643687004817745866

Ty Jacob!!

[strong thunder]

just an fyi on friday im leaving out of town and won't be back for about a week so if there's any game breaking problems please lmk before I'm gone

[spare sinew]

I guess you mean with this new update, but still i think the only issue is the elevator bug hehe tho i guess that one is harder to fix

[arctic mist]

Yea but -

PEAK ITS PEAK

[azure comet]

Btw for those who have issues with the interior never generating

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mattymatty/EntranceTeleportOptimizations/ This mod fixes it

It happens because the id for entrances gets set incorrectly and this mod has a fix for that

It can happen with any interior

[arctic mist]

Ngl I might tweak it to add 6 extra scrap

But idk about the other interiors but I'll figure it out. Since Skelaah's moons aren't in DULL's vanilla plus dungeon generation in LLL

So working on messing with those weight's

[azure comet]

I've seen Slaughterhouse also be affected by it

[strong thunder]

i goofed but you saw nothing

[forest apex]

Hi, enjoy this mod a lot. I'm getting an error though on the recent update that seems to not be letting me use the terminal.

[azure comet]

It's fixed with 2.2.3

[forest apex]

Oh nice that was fast lol

[feral meteor]

@strong thunder If the DLL got reverted then does the updates in 2.2.2 get reverted?

[strong thunder]

no all those changes were to the asset bundle

no features were reverted

just fixes some errors from code trying to refrence unreleased pathfindinglib api that i forgot was included in my project

[floral veldt]

Hello Mr. Cob

I heard from a little birdy that trap spawns are still kinda cluttering in a single spot

doesn't happen as often as before but there's still double turret spots going around

[last wing]

birdy was me hi

[vapid patio]

does shrimp still work

[last wing]

no

hi bsl

[vapid patio]

wsp

should I uninstall shrimp?

[last wing]

prolly, afaik hes a bit wonky rn. theres plans though

[vapid patio]

alr bet

[floral veldt]

desyncs in all sorts of weird ways yea

also hi bsl

[jovial hedge]

the vehicle hangar experience

(unfortunately I have to do it or it would be unplayable)

[strong thunder]

i mean it can happen on any interior given rng + moon hazard spawn curves. there is no interior that doesn't. iasue before was there was like 4 hazard apawns in the whole interior so it stacked crazy. now most rooms have a few spots so that doesn't happen

[strong thunder]

for rn i would. but he will make a return

[floral veldt]

Haven't really had it on vanilla interiors but yeah I suppose it can happen on most

Also I love the sign!

[strong thunder]

absolutely can on vanilla. if there's a lot of hazard spawns they are just picking random nodes and there's always chance for multiple to spawn on the same node

[floral veldt]

ig vanilla just has a shit ton more? i'm not sure but I just haven't seen it

not saying it can't happen tho dw

[strong thunder]

idk i have a lot in office now

[floral veldt]

maybe you could check facility's? it's nbd though, just figured you'd be interested in knowing since you fixed it a while back

[strong thunder]

if anything office probably has too many for some tiles. iirc the bathroom has like 8-10. ik some people wanted me to remove some spawns which i haven't done but still might do

[vapid patio]

alr ty

[solemn isle]

Mental detector warning sign is a good change, playing the interior blind it feels a bit cheap

[merry inlet]

Not familiar enough with the size of the tiles, but those nodes have some spawn range. I’m wondering if hazards spawn on all of those nodes then that’s 8 hazards in that tile and they could group up.

For CabIn I think I have 1 node in almost every tile, 2 at most in the bigger ones. I’m wondering if by putting so many in one tile RNG has a greater chance of essentially putting more hazards in that one room.

[strong thunder]

they do have ranges yes. but it's range that i put onto each one and i change sizes accordingly for how i want them to be

[merry inlet]

I haven’t been able to play in a bit though so I can’t say if I’ve seen this issue

[strong thunder]

im pretty sure vodka got a rare chance in generation, brought it up in vc, and monty just posted it without knowing much

[floral veldt]

no I got it once or twice today too

forgor to take screenie but they were landmines touchin eachother in a pretty big room

I mean whether I know how it works or not I'm still gonna point out that it's happening, I figured it would be important information since that's something you wanted to fix ykno

You also said to please point out issues before you left

And I thought "oh since this is happening I might as well inform Jacob"

[strong thunder]

fair ig. but not an issue

[floral veldt]

Uhh ok

Won't report it again I guess

[spare sinew]

how many?

[last wing]

no ive been testing my next moon w office as the focus interior. int size 1.6. its likely something on my side but ill keep in touch ;^)

[spare sinew]

i remember when i had like 13 stacked in the same place

[last wing]

4 people, 2 teams of 2 noticed it as well

[floral veldt]

not that many, only 2

[last wing]

multiple quotas btw

[floral veldt]

it's def better than before, it used to be really bad before jacob came in and fixed it

but it was still happening so I figured id report it yea

but if you say it's not an issue then I won't bother mr cob 🫡

[spare sinew]

found it haha

[merry inlet]

I feel like that’s not too bad. Might all depend on a series of factors like interior size/moon size multiplier and the spawn curve of the hazards. I feel like even in vanilla sometimes I see 2 together. Not often, but I feel I’ve seen it

[merry inlet]

Now that would be fun to throw an egg into

[spare sinew]

i've seen that happen in other interiors too

doesn't seem like an office issue but anothe thing

like the way hazards spawn

[floral veldt]

aur fr? that'd make sense then ye

[merry inlet]

Or a fellow crew mate

[floral veldt]

mrov fucking blew me up today w a key on a landmine the fucker

[last wing]

peak

[spare sinew]

i still remember before the update, playing with friends, seeing like 10 landmines stack, i leave the hallway to find more scrap, come back and seeing the entire hallway black and a body lying two tiles away 😂

[strong thunder]

yeah this is what the changelog fixing it was about. this was a problem lmao

[last wing]

i can find footage of last nights games to show you but i do remember you fixing just this short after you brought up taking over office to me. its likely an edge case w moon trap spawns, tho it does resemble that issue in spades. had an entire hallway w 3 groups of 2stacked turrets going down it lol

i just think its goofy

[azure comet]

You can still get funnies on rare occasion

https://www.twitch.tv/lunxara/clip/MoistLitigiousWaterPJSugar-BJZhoXCWc03Znu55

This was very recent for example

[last wing]

ours was happening like nearly every day so its probably on my side. new moon stresses

[strong thunder]

more pinnacle at it's pinnacle lmao

anyways like i said before I'm leaving for a while so gl everyone

[jovial hedge]

yay!

thank you for taking my petty request

[tiny wave]

BALD Jacob if you leave ill give you a lunxara snack

[strange gorge]

Holy cow office looks like that now?

[jovial hedge]

he put more office per office

[strange gorge]

Does this office the office

[strong thunder]

probably

[strange gorge]

I'll have to check it out

[strong thunder]

i recomend reading changlogs on thunderstore if you're curious about stuff. they're fairly detailed on every change

[strange gorge]

Reminds me of those tesla gates from a certain game, or those body scanners you pass through in airports

Oh swag

I think I will

[strong topaz]

Jacob cooked

[strong sinew]

He really did, before it was super bland interior but now it really looks good, awesome details like couches spawning or abandoned floors and its not overpacked with it, maybe thats why its fitting the game vibe

[velvet token]

I love the apparatus room in the LC Office int. Goated interior!

[strong sinew]

Oh yea the apparatus room is really unique

[ashen belfry]

i kind of miss the way the weird wall map thing in the entrance room used to work, there should be a config option or something to set it back to it's old functionality

[floral veldt]

yeah I'm confused as to how it's supposed to work now

[strong thunder]

at least once i got a hold of the files I'm pretty sure it didn't work at all. there was no script or code for it in the files i had. so if it did at one point how was it different?

[ashen belfry]

im a little confused about the current functionality if im honest

doesnt it just like show what floor the elevator is on?

[strong thunder]

it's the functionality monty and vodka wanted me to give it when we did testing.

colored floor is the place the elevator currently is and the black x-ed out floors are floors with 0 connected doorways

as in nothing generated on that floor

[ashen belfry]

thats not too far off from the original functionality iirc

it just showed what floors didnt have any doorways, blacked out with a red X

but all the floors that did have generated rooms were just colored in with the arrow at all times and it didnt change

[floral veldt]

What it did iirc was just check if anything generated on each floor and X it on the map if it hadn't

[floral veldt]

I don't remember saying that at all huh

atleast for indicating where the elevator is I mean, maybe that was vodka

we prolly don't see the X'd out one cuz they all generate now lol

[strong thunder]

probably

[ashen belfry]

i think the idea of being able to see what floor the elevator is on is fine but i just think that map in particular updating in real time is kind of odd looking because it just kind of looks like a static paper map on the wall

honestly before i figured out the new functionality i thought it was glitched lol

[floral veldt]

I think it'd be cool if instead of just showing the floor the elevator on you made that glow, like it's on a screen or smth? it looks a bit weird when it just doesn't show a floor

maybe I can make you a mockup if you'd like to tweak that going forward? it's totally up to you

[strong thunder]

tbh on default settings it don't really happen anymore since i spent so long trying to make that a less frequent thing. im p sure some alt settings like having only 1 main path it'll happen more

[floral veldt]

ye 100%

[strong thunder]

maybe we add a lil elevator sprite that gets moved with the elevator on the lil board and the colored floors are always enabled or something idk

[ashen belfry]

that would be cool

[floral veldt]

that'd be neat!

I'll still mockup smth tonight if I can

[strong thunder]

or maybe i get new mats for the thing bc i agree it does almost look like a carpet. im p sure it's meant to be a screen or smthn tho bc i think the colored ones were unlit

im not home rn otherwise I'd check more things

monty remind me of this when i have traveled back home

[floral veldt]

will do :3

[ashen belfry]

this idea reminds me of this elevator screen thing from a gmod map

[floral veldt]

noticed one of piggy's other mods has an issue where if the digits go over 3/4 or 4/3 it adjusts in a weird way

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Piggy/LastRunResult/

dis one

no git to report the issue to

but it's a bit of a small oversight, I guess it could be fixed by just making it so the font size adjusts relative to the digit count?

[steep yacht]

I got feedback for the radar zoom mod

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Piggy/RadarZoom/

It would be sick if there was a zoom out multiplier config for radar boosters, in vanilla, when selecting them you can see further away than players, also it would be cool if the config supported decimals

[pale socket]

Maybe enhancedradarbooster?

[steep yacht]

No but this mod overrides it

Unless there is a config in ehnacedradarbooster that I didn't know of

[floral veldt]

I noticed the zoom in this barely makes a difference anymore

kinda sad, unless it's an incompatibility with enhanced rb?

[steep yacht]

It does for me

I have enhanced RB and it works like in the readme gif

[floral veldt]

do you use Universal radar?

[steep yacht]

Yes

The mod has been working for me since v69

Even with radar edits it worked fine

[floral veldt]

that's super strange

I wss trying it today and it wasn't even zooming out for me

[steep yacht]

Maybe a mod you have is causing conflicts

[floral veldt]

probably yeah

[steep yacht]

I have a py script that decompiles all plugins I have in a profile, and then I just do a search through all the files (in vs code) for the mods that change certain things
#1359237844035703056 message

It narrowed me the list of a bug one time from 250 mods to 12 mods and other time to 10 mods or something like that

Maybe you can find what mod changes the zoom if you do something similar

[midnight sable]

the zoom works for me, but i noticed the furthest zoom out setting is pretty much what vanilla is now

i know theres a config but its confusing to me. all the default values are 1

[floral veldt]

yeah

[midnight sable]

[floral veldt]

does LC Office add a wrench scrap?

[spare sinew]

Yes

[floral veldt]

i just lost hp to this fucker getting struck by lightning inside 😭

it stops striking it after I pick it up thankfrully

[spare sinew]

Ye a few scraps are bugged

Pretty sure Lc Office scrap has that bug with all the scraps

[floral veldt]

death

[pale socket]

I thought it was just coins but it looks like is every scrap from lc office.

[floral veldt]

found a seam

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/kFGg4rojASIYNEXDT?invite=cr-MSxlU2gsMjYyMzg4OTQx

died like immediately after

[pale socket]

So enemies can't open doors from lc office?

[strong thunder]

afaik they very much can and have been

[pale socket]

it's just large doors, maybe increase the hitbox for the left and right.

[solemn isle]

Coil-Heads and Butlers struggle to open doors in general. With Coils it is by design, they usually get stuck on a door long enough that they enter recharge before opening it. Butlers should open doors fast but have a janky hitbox, hence things like Mineshaft cheese

[pale socket]

hoarding bugs. centipedes and sometimes nutcrackers

coilhead still open vanilla doors after enter recharge

[floral veldt]

it's happened with thumpers there for me tho

[strong thunder]

if you're talking about our test sessions that got fixed a long time ago

[floral veldt]

Oh yeah you're right, the one time I experienced it outside of that was with a spider

[pale socket]

If you could change large doors hitboxes to make easier enemies open it. Doorfixes has the same problem: it tried to change vanilla doors hitboxes and all entities are unable to open it. It looks like if enemies try to open the door through the left/right side will just keep running. Coil-Heads needs 17s to open a door but even if they enter recharge mode they will still open the door.

[ornate forge]

shrimp.... i miss him

[velvet token]

Is that door problem ⬆️ planning on being looked at? Just curious since the interior is pretty cool

[strong thunder]

the two enemies being shown in the two clips are enemies that have issues opening vanilla doors anyways. if there is a door issue i'll look into fixing it but what was shown seems like standard behavior for coilheads and butlers so i'm probably not going to bother at least rn.

[velvet token]

Ahh okok

[pale socket]

Hoarding Bugs, centipedes i tested as well. Samething

[floral veldt]

Spiders have issues as well

[velvet token]

well these messages seem to say that all the monsters have trouble with that door lol 😭

[floral veldt]

iirc a few don't

nutcrackers and thumpers don't seem to

unsure what that really seems

[pale socket]

Nutcrackers just sometimes. It seem like it's when they try to open the door from the left/right instead of the middle

[strong thunder]

PathfindingLib update is coming but I want to add some extras first. It's something I'm working on between other things.

[pulsar gorge]

Question LC_Office is working right? last i left off i had desync issues with the elevator

[floral veldt]

doesn't anymore

whole thing's been polished up a ton

[pulsar gorge]

k making sure

Glad i loved this interior

[pale socket]

I never had desync issues with elevator

[pulsar gorge]

I once entered the elevator closed the door to go down the elevator door closed but did not go down

and i got stuck in the elevator

What about shrimp?

[floral veldt]

Shrimp is still broken, and it's been separated into its own mod

[pulsar gorge]

Ya i was there when he got separated

[merry inlet]

RIP Shrimp

https://tenor.com/view/the-upturned-shrimp-makesweet-my-beloved-zeekerss-gif-6296684955692238076

[midnight sable]

shimp will hopefully return some day..

[velvet token]

What about a shrimp redesign. To be more monsterlike but only visually.

and bugfixes lol

[exotic socket]

then it would be a separate monster

it looks the way it does right now because it's a direct reference to the upturned

[strong topaz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1196943144009351258/1212192006227623997/mad_shrimp_disease.gif

I miss the wind up flashlight thing with the name I forgor

[astral cairn]

Dynamo Flashlight?

[strong topaz]

Yeargh

last I checked it was borked, suffered from that freaky weight bug

a whiiiile ago, imagine it may be worse now.

This and abandonedcompanyassets, devastated with the discontinuation

Sconeys was updating that but somethin' happened and they've been gone a whiiile

[merry inlet]

Didn’t LethalLib get an update to validate the weight of items registered through it? Did that help with that issue?

[floral veldt]

yuhuh

it did

the patch thing, not whether it worked or not

[toxic stream]

@strong thunder i want a refuund on my elevator

[strong thunder]

i want to refund my eyes after seeing the coilhead model replacement

[toxic stream]

yo chill on me

[strong thunder]

elevator update is coming soon i just have some extra things that aren't finished yet i decided to add

but the blender is p funny

[strong topaz]

https://imgur.com/OTndNJr

[sonic mango]

the perfect excuse for me to learn how to use jll!!! (i really like elevators)

[strong thunder]

i did some testing tonight and got new things working in game. tomorrow I have some more i want to do, we'll see how that goes.

[strong thunder]

lc office update is unrelated to the jll elevator component

[sonic mango]

yeah! I meant that I kinda wanted to learn how to use jll scripts for moons, and now even more with the elevator component

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scratch-gif-26163158

[floral veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/james-charles-suspicious-meme-dexter-gif-16862144012666500782

[prime socket]

it turned it into and blender

[toxic stream]

not sure but it's really funny

also i'm not really complaining about dying i can tell it's quite hard to handle things in an elevator

[strong thunder]

i find myself in an odd situation where i've finished everything on my checklist for what i wanted in this update but somehow it feels like i've not made enough content for the update somehow

[sonic mango]

don't be hard on yourself!

any new content is always good!

[merry inlet]

I’ve done that a few times. Sometimes you just gotta update even if it feels like a small one. That doesn’t necessarily make it bad.

[midnight sable]

any new content at all is appreciated, youve already added a ton to office

that said, it would be cool to see halt back at some point

[azure comet]

I think if you crossed off your check list then you've done enough to push an update Don't pressure yourself to feel the need to add more content we love the hard work you do and appreciate it whether it's a smaller update or a larger update

[pulsar gorge]

agreed there

[strong thunder]

ig i'll just upload it as is then.
the pathfinding lib stuff won't really be noticeable until other mods update to support it but it's there.

Ik zaggy was also going to release a standalone mod patching masks to implement the api that i used in testing to make sure my implementation works. Whenever they upload that to thunderstore I highly recommend downloading that with office since it'll allow masked to use the office elevator like they can the mineshaft elevator.

in the mean time i think xu might've been implementing some of that to some CR enemies?

or maybe im spreading lies and misinformation. who knows really

[spare sinew]

You should make it a dependency then, i think that would be the best!

Whenever it comes out

[strong thunder]

i would've if the mod was out

[pulsar gorge]

Im scared using elevators at this point have fallen thru them before XD

[spare sinew]

I mean when the mod comes out you could make it a dependency

[azure comet]

Oh yeah did you manage to fix the issue of the Apparatus despawning after a lobby reload?

Didn't see that in the changelog

[spare sinew]

Yippeee new update!!

[strong thunder]

honestly no, but i also double checked it's getting registered and everything correctly didn't see a problem or end up changing anything. also never heard that being a problem for that item?

[azure comet]

Hmmm, well we got one on Asteroid 13 the day I reported the issue, had to reload the game cus I think we started running into invis players and such and it just wasn't on the ship anymore lol

[strong thunder]

could you have left before it saved?

[azure comet]

I mean I saved the lobby manually with Lobby Control before we closed it out, so it should have saved the item

[strong thunder]

i dunno. if someone else reports it again with the same item i'll probably look into it more in depth but for now it's fine. it gets registered along with all the other office scrap the same way so none of them should theoretically have saving issues unless they all have saving issues. which afaik they don't

[azure comet]

Actually, is it because I turned off the custom scraps? I noticed they kept floating before so I disabled them and I wonder if that for some reason triggers the App to not save lmao

I'll have to turn them back on since the update contains some fixes for them

and see if that's what causes it

[strong thunder]

shouldn't be no

here's an excerpt of the code related to this.
basically when office scraps config is enabled it pulls all extended items from the bundle and registers them (once registered through LLL they get saved correctly n everything)
when office scraps are disabled it just loads the apparatus item from the bundle and registers only that

[azure comet]

Ah hmmm

[strong thunder]

hence why i said it should pretty much be all or nothing

[velvet token]

Thank you for the update!

[strong thunder]

omg the real sigurd

[tiny wave]

ye anyone who uses CRLib can use my SmartAgentNavigator to allow their enemies to roam similar to vanilla enemies and also use pathfindinglib for elevators etc

i used zaggy's implementation for the masked stuff a while back for it

[arctic mist]

So is the elevator spin bug fixed??

[ashen belfry]

bug report (spoiler maybe?): ||the sakura soda says web cola when you hold it||

[pale socket]

Large Doors still have broken hitboxes.

Snare fleas have problems with large doors too. (no opening in 10s)

[pale socket]

The monsters get stuck trying to open from the left or right side.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/itsmeowdev/DoorFix/ This mod tried to change doors hitboxes and the monsters behavior almost the same way with large doors from lc office

[white flicker]

Meow meow!

[autumn karma]

[white flicker]

Meow meow!

[azure comet]

This mod does not work properly and hasn't for a long time

It should be deprecated in all honesty cus it blocks monster pathing and causes other issues

[pale socket]

yes, i know, i'm trying to say that large doors cause enemies behavior in the same way as doorfix

I was the one who reported to be deprecated

[pale socket]

is it a bug with mimics?

[floral veldt]

no, mimics would actually generate a fake fire exit there I assume

[pale socket]

its not desync issue. Since everyone got the same layout.

[floral veldt]

yup

what tile was this?

[pale socket]

a regular corridor, first floor

[strong thunder]

just posted an update hopefully fixing this (i made sure it worked on a couple enemies) + fixing apparatus item saving

also updating the github bc i think i forgot to do that last night

[floral veldt]

fuck yeah

[ancient dove]

I can't tell if it's related to the above image from Leubes, but I'm going to guess a blocker is missing here?

[floral veldt]

oh huh yeah, it is

[arctic mist]

Da mimic

[jovial hedge]

bor forgort the blocker

this is so sad

[strong thunder]

oh yay a screenshot that acutally shows me what tile it is lmao

[strong thunder]

actually turns out that door did have it's blocker set. it just also had it's connecter set to the blocker object deleting both lmao

[jovial hedge]

oopsie

[strong thunder]

posted update fixing that blocker on that tile

[jovial hedge]

hoorah!

we rejoice

[strong thunder]

apologies for that. i did testing to make sure my blockers and stuff seemed right. i guess i didn't get specifically that doorway in testing and it was the only one messed up

[ashen belfry]

bumping this because i dont know if you saw it

[strong thunder]

oh no i did not. i'll try to remember for the next patch (will wait in case there's something more important since i already did 2 hotfixes today)

[ashen belfry]

alr sweet

[sturdy dawn]

Hey, uhm...
Is this a CodeRebirth or LcOffice issue?
Jimothy is trying to use the elevator, but apparently it can't, so it's calling it constantly, going to the 2nd floor and calling it back again

[jovial hedge]

jimbo paths pretty weirdly so id wager its him

he doesnt seem to move like alot of other enemies, he drags around alot

i mean I think he uses the same system but

obv

but something with his nav stuff feels different

for example dogs turn around really fast

meanwhile he kinda does a slow slow turn

[strong thunder]

I know this conversation was already had in CR thread but I will explain here so people who didn't see that know. I tested using a build of zaggy's unreleased mask mod and made sure the current version of LC office implements the api correctly and it does. Masks with that mod could navigate the elevator just fine.
Meaning it's likely a CR issue. We speculated for a while possible issues and their fixes but haven't done any testing yet.

[pale socket]

Are mimics still spawning in LCoffice?

[strong thunder]

Pushed an update. implemented something for a future pathfindinglib update. (currently won't be used)
fixed pillar walls not removing navmesh & optimized them a bit. (enemies could get stuck in some situations)
one of the new items had the wrong name.
and i added links for some enemies to unstuck themselves from the elevator roof + masked can now choose to climb the elevator ladder to get you

[floral veldt]

yay! nice

[strong thunder]

or on that last one i said masked but any enemy able to climb ladders

[velvet token]

Thank you for the update!

[spare sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/catto-gif-17643687004817745866

[astral latch]

bypassed the metal detector with awesome generation

[velvet token]

I just found out about the metal detector. What's the gimmick? Like how am I supposed to pass it without getting electricuted if I'm holding metal

[spare sinew]

Its like a real metal detector

You put metal in the metal place

[velvet token]

You can do it? I tried it and it just hit the floor

I'll try it agian when I encounter that inteiror again

[spare sinew]

Mmm, if not i remember there is a "glitch" that you can just pick up the objects behind the bars

[strong thunder]

the metal detector is the apparatus tile. pulling the apparatus disables all electronics in the interior including the metal detector

[velvet token]

OOOhhh okok

[midnight sable]

oohug.. i crave. Shrim.

[merry inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-shrimp-bounce-the-upturned-gif-6058557510059893224

[strange gorge]

Played upturned somewhat recently

I really like Ik's theme

Phone theme is good too

Shrimp is the dog ever

[midnight sable]

https://youtu.be/j-vL4gJs1Vw

[floral veldt]

zeekers music awesome

[strange gorge]

Very true

Seeing the progress from first roblox game to now is crazy

[arctic mist]

does office have it's own stinger??

[strong thunder]

unsure actually

I've heard a few people say modded interior stingers don't work anyways without an extra mod that fixes them but im unsure on that

[pale socket]

Wesley interiors and generic interiors has stingers

[astral latch]

Every time I entered the office interior with the Revisit Stinger mod, it always played the basic facility stinger. So, there is no stinger, to the best of my knowledge, or it's bugging out.

[floral veldt]

probably

[strong thunder]

yes i am one of wesley's stingers lmao

[pale socket]

Do you know why mimics no longer spawn inside The Office?

[spare sinew]

They do

Not in a good way

[floral veldt]

Yes

They spawn, they just don't look convincing cuz they don't fit the actual doorways

[pale socket]

ah

[spare sinew]

Almost all interiors can have them

But only a few work great

[livid python]

not those with custom fire exits I'm pr sure

demonmae's interiors mostly (except for D.U.L.L's)

[spare sinew]

Ye true

Circusfacility works tho hehehehe

Bit thats bc pacoito added compatibility

[pulsar gorge]

Mimics and the rubber rooms :0

[spare sinew]

idk if they work there

but tbh is kinda unnecesary haha

[solemn isle]

The demon doors kinda fill that role for Rubber Rooms

[ashen belfry]

rubber rooms already has fake fire exits though lol

[spare sinew]

Thats why im saying its kinda unnecessary

[solemn isle]

Oh true, I forgot it has both

Doors in Rubber Rooms be giving me trust issues

[pulsar gorge]

XD

[pale socket]

Is this a problem with your scraps?

[astral latch]

So are enemies able to ride or use the elevator in LC_Office?

[solemn isle]

It can be a bit janky but they all should be able to ride it. I believe Masked were recently given the ability to use it as well

[astral latch]

Well, from what I tested with just LC Office and LethalDevMode. Not a single masked used the elevator when they saw me going up it. Nor used it on their own. (The elevator pathfinding thing works completely fine for the playzone interior. But I heard it worked for LC_Office. But it didn't.)

[velvet token]

what moon did you test this on?

[strong thunder]

modded enemies implementing PathfindingLib's update can ride the elevator.
This doesn't currently mean vanilla masked tho zaggy was going to release a masked mod to allow them to. idk the status on that

[tiny wave]

jimothy can, and thats all that matters

(and other cr entities ig)

[merry inlet]

Good job Jimothy!

[astral latch]

experimentation (I used lethaldevmode to spawn in the masked enemies)

[astral latch]

Ohh! Got it.

[pale socket]

Anything about this?

[unborn saffron]

I was sidetracked on a rabbit hole of reverse engineering off-mesh links since pacoito encountered a crash on Bozoros related to them, but last time I looked at that stuff I had an idea to make the elevator traversal a little more natural that I'll try now

If it looks good, I'll probably release it today

oh @strong thunder I haven't kept up, is the fix out for those non-carving obstacles we saw last time?

[strong thunder]

that waa part of the same update that implemented the new method you added in the update

[unborn saffron]

oh nice

then testing should be a lot easier 🫡

there's somethin funny going on here

[unborn saffron]

hmm, I'm gonna have to come back to this later, but for some reason it looks like my masked calculating what should be a direct path from the inside of the elevator to a node on the top floor is getting a path going to the bottom and then back to the top, I wonder if there's some timing issue with the animation from bottom to top

it's causing him to get stuck in a loop of riding the elevator to the bottom and then to the top again

[strong thunder]

i could look at that thing at some point and probably fix this

[strong thunder]

this is what i was telling you about in testing before. i thought that's why you wanted me to implement that new interface thing for you to change logic slightly

[unborn saffron]

oh no I mean it's working properly for him to get in, the issue is he rides up and down repeatedly when he's in, even when his destination is far from the elevator

so as far as I can tell it's an issue I wasn't aware of before, I'm hoping it's something that doesn't require API changes but we'll see

[unborn saffron]

@strong thunder I haven't confirmed yet, but it's kinda looking like the off-mesh link to enter/exit the elevator at the top isn't connecting? do you toggle it in the animation?

[strong thunder]

the top floor should work i've seen them get on/off the top floor normally

[unborn saffron]

where is the link? is it on each floor or the elevator itself?

[strong thunder]

but yes the elevator link does get disabled after the door shuts. it's to prevent enemies from boarding when the door is shut / while it is moving

[unborn saffron]

yeah I would've assumed you would've noticed if it wasn't working, but I can't seem to get a masked to path onto the elevator directly

[strong thunder]

elevator it's self

but again it's disabled while moving so it shouldn't be rebaking anything

[unborn saffron]

I'm trying to find it while it's at rest at the top floor but Find("StartRoomElevator").GetComponentsInChildren<OffMeshLink>() isn't working

even if I include inactive

the AI definitely knows how to get on and off on the bottom and middle floors though

crawler with no smart pathfinding also can't enter

[strong thunder]

can crawler even go on elevator links?

[unborn saffron]

uhhh

not sure

you mean the vanilla elevator area type right?

looks like it should

area 10 is enabled in its mask

looks like the B position is too far in the doorway of the elevator for how the navmesh generates at the top floor

I shifted it outwards a little and the crawler went in immediately

also random observation, probably need some NavMeshModifierVolumes here for the blockers

[unborn saffron]

(I suppose it could be seed dependent, I'm running only LC_Office on seed 58566823 on vow)

[unborn saffron]

roaming actually seems to work quite well with that link fixed

[unborn saffron]

I released da masked mod along with a little improvement to the roaming in PathfindingLib, hopefully that link can get fixed up soon

[merry inlet]

Amazing icon! https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zaggy1024/SmartEnemyPathfinding/

[autumn karma]

I like the icon too

It's great

[unborn saffron]

lmao thank you

I was feeling incredibly lazy

[solemn isle]

So uh, how the vending machines work? I saw the “restocked vending machines” note in the changelog, and I was not around for the previous time they were functional. I cannot seem to figure them out, how do I interact with them?

[ashen belfry]

you need a coin so you need to have the scraps enabled

[solemn isle]

I have tried to do that, I went up to vending machine prop with a coin and spam clicked all over the place. Is it only certain props?

[ashen belfry]

its only the one in the entryway area to the right

[solemn isle]

Ah, thanks

[floral veldt]

there's multiple vending machines??

[spare sinew]

Yeah

But they look kinda different iirc

[solemn isle]

There are vending machine props that can spawn in tiles like the break room and large computer office

[pale socket]

Sorry to bother you, but are you going to fix the navmesh problem with the elevator on the 3rd floor that Zagster reported to you?

[unborn saffron]

I'm sure he will when he can

perhaps in the meantime I can make a quick mod to fix it in the prefab if I get a chance

[livid python]

LC_Office yet again forgotten...

[unborn saffron]

life more important than vibeo game

[livid python]

And you're wrong here

What can be more important than company? Bills? Wife? Children? Groceries? J*b? Blaaahh
We love the company

[exotic socket]

SIGURDS DAD IS MORE IMPORTANT

GRAHHHHHHHH

[wheat spire]

SIGURDS DAD DIED IN THE VENT

[floral veldt]

I'M SIGURDS DAD

[exotic socket]

YOU DIED??????

[floral veldt]

I DID BUT I'M BACK

[solemn isle]

Somehow bio-monty returned

[spare sinew]

He was chilling in liquidation

[pulsar gorge]

They are immortal its a fact

[strong topaz]

@velvet token

[velvet token]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[ornate forge]

is shrimp back

[spare sinew]

😔

[merry inlet]

No 😭

[strange gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocked-shocked-cat-shocked-meme-shocked-face-gif-6329997493175349435

Me when I'm caught eating shrimp

(I can't stop chewing)

[jovial hedge]

hi greenits

[strange gorge]

Hi beanits

[spare sinew]

Hi bothnits

[solemn isle]

I got a bit of a weird issue: I use ItemWeights to give scrap custom value ranges in my modpack, but I cannot give the Sakura Soda its own value because it appears to have the same internal name as the Web Cola. Could this please be changed? It is both inconveniencing and a bit confusing.

[pale socket]

I tried to use a lockpicker on one of the glass doors

[19:04:26.7308224] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LockPicker.GetLockPickerDoorPosition (DoorLock doorScript) (at <31f0351006d541aeb5ae92a12fc7161b>:IL_0000)
LockPicker.ItemActivate (System.Boolean used, System.Boolean buttonDown) (at <31f0351006d541aeb5ae92a12fc7161b>:IL_00CE)
GrabbableObject.UseItemOnClient (System.Boolean buttonDown) (at <31f0351006d541aeb5ae92a12fc7161b>:IL_005C)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::ActivateItem_performed>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputAction/CallbackContext)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.Utilities.DelegateHelpers.InvokeCallbacksSafe[TValue] (UnityEngine.InputSystem.Utilities.CallbackArray1[System.Action1[TValue]]& callbacks, TValue argument, System.String callbackName, System.Object context) (at <dbb0ce7b96144bd8bcbcb8b0d765f970>:IL_001B)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.LowLevel.<>c__DisplayClass7_0:<set_onUpdate>b__0(NativeInputUpdateType, NativeInputEventBuffer*)
UnityEngineInternal.Input.NativeInputSystem:NotifyUpdate(NativeInputUpdateType, IntPtr)

[19:04:26.7323430] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException while executing 'performed' callbacks of 'Movement/ActivateItem[/Mouse/leftButton]'
[19:04:27.0898958] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LockPicker.GetLockPickerDoorPosition (DoorLock doorScript) (at <31f0351006d541aeb5ae92a12fc7161b>:IL_0000)
LockPicker.ItemActivate (System.Boolean used, System.Boolean buttonDown) (at <31f0351006d541aeb5ae92a12fc7161b>:IL_00CE)
GrabbableObject.UseItemOnClient (System.Boolean buttonDown) (at <31f0351006d541aeb5ae92a12fc7161b>:IL_005C)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::ActivateItem_performed>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputAction/CallbackContext)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.Utilities.DelegateHelpers.InvokeCallbacksSafe[TValue] (UnityEngine.InputSystem.Utilities.CallbackArray1[System.Action1[TValue]]& callbacks, TValue argument, System.String callbackName, System.Object context) (at <dbb0ce7b96144bd8bcbcb8b0d765f970>:IL_001B)
UnityEngine.InputSystem.LowLevel.<>c__DisplayClass7_0:<set_onUpdate>b__0(NativeInputUpdateType, NativeInputEventBuffer*)
UnityEngineInternal.Input.NativeInputSystem:NotifyUpdate(NativeInputUpdateType, IntPtr)

[floral veldt]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/l4vye8GiJSGb8ajIH?invite=cr-MSxTbm8sMjYyMzg4OTQx&v=50

that fucking elevator that I hate

[strong topaz]

brother got coiled so hard

[floral veldt]

father jake pls fix 🥹

[spare sinew]

"jaaaaaaaaaaacooooooob?"

[solemn isle]

Still looks like a masterpiece compared to the Wesley’s Art Gallery elevator

[floral veldt]

both look great, they're just different aesthetics

or do you mean jank wise

bugeyed

cuz in that case yea

[solemn isle]

I do think the Art Gallery elevators are a little ugly, just boxes with a marble texture and a tacky floor selector. Jank-wise though yeah, they speak for themselves

[livid python]

Entities should not have ability to enter the elevator
If they're on their respective floor, they should stay there lol

[wary flare]

Enemies should call the elevator back down if you're attempting to run from them

[autumn karma]

Give entities a jetpack instead so they can chase flying players as well as change floors

[wary flare]

-# I wouldn't know anything about such a mischievous scheme: ||https://www.twitch.tv/doinkytoboinky/clip/RacyTriumphantBottleEagleEye-tChcVrBCJ72peBAb||

[spare sinew]

Give entities a teleport button so they can instantly teleport to you

Oh wait, thats the harbinger

[wary flare]

Teleports Locker onto Mineshaft upper floor, refuses to elaborate, teleports away

[floral veldt]

entering the elevator is totally fine, i just don't think any of em except for masked should be able to call the elevator

that and I don't think enemies should freak out from being in the elevator

...while they're outside the elevator

[wary flare]

Only reason Coilheads freak out is due to some parenting fuckery with PlayerPhysicsRegion, it's a vanilla thing

Like not correcting player line of sight to account for the change in position or somethin iirc

[wary flare]

But also counterpoint: it's really funny for them to do that

• I can see like the Bracken being able to push buttons too

[floral veldt]

wasn't that fixed by smth?

[floral veldt]

100% yeah

[wary flare]

ScienceBirdTweaks fixed it for mineshaft elevator I think

[floral veldt]

I also don't think it should happen when the enemy's not even inside the elevator, that's the main thing

[wary flare]

But not for PlayerPhysicsRegions in general

[wary flare]

It doesn't matter if the enemy's inside or outside the elevator, the player lost line of sight with the Coilhead so it started moving around like it wasn't being stared at

With how fast it moves around it can do some pathing fuckery like that

Dunno I'd have to look at how the elevator's set up to see what it did exactly

[floral veldt]

ye thats what I mean

it lost LOS so it moved towards vodka and just kinda

got on the elevator

even if the door was closed

odd stuff idk

[floral veldt]

o yee you right

[pale socket]

Hoarding bugs still are unable to open large doors from your interior.

[azure comet]

???

[pale socket]

Double doors

[azure comet]

Ah

Tbh that's minor though since those doorways are custom, if it's only an issue with hoarding bugs it's probably more so an issue with their AI

[pale socket]

I dont believe so. Its just a hitbox problem or something like that.

They tried to open on the left/right side

[azure comet]

Yeah I was gonna say something with their ai or hitbox

I've seen them get stuck against a lot of odd things before

[spare sinew]

Lots of interiors have that issue

I haven seen it in vanilla interior

[azure comet]

I think since it's usually specifically with Hoarding Bugs though it doesn't really fall on the fault of the interior

Just a hitbox problem with some of the unused door assets that some custom interiors use and the hitboxes of hoarding bugs

[pale socket]

The only vanilla interior I've seen that enemies are struggle with is the mansion.

[sacred ibex]

Hey there, it has been a while! What i noticed is that shrimp and suits don't work well together and that also shrimp has a problem with spawning itself or atleast refusing too, due to the v70 enemy spawn problem so i assume, it needs to be updated to work again ^^

[spare sinew]

Shrimp doesnt work

Hasnt worked for a long time

[merry inlet]

We should have a funeral/memorial for Shrimp 😔

[midnight sable]

he'll be fixed one day... right?

[jovial hedge]

shrimp for sale at this hour?

how convenient.

https://tenor.com/view/mr-incredible-shrimp-truth-shrimp-shrimp-truth-shrimp-of-truth-gif-1862074793508121424

[jovial hedge]

is that a manul

[midnight sable]

i think so lol

[jovial hedge]

jumpscare

[midnight sable]

[floral veldt]

I OSHR8P

[jovial hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-incredible-mr-incredible-turning-car-mr-incredible-meme-the-incredibles-meme-mr-incredible-shrimp-gif-697236978373051997

[floral veldt]

I DO I DO I DO I DO I DO I DO

[jovial hedge]

WAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE (tea kettle whistle)

dink

plink

tink

hooh, close one

i am going to parallel park

[spare sinew]

needs the context

[midnight sable]

https://youtu.be/H51NLWnyxwg

alright shrimp family who wants some shrimp

[spare sinew]

thanks for the contexts cobalt!!

[midnight sable]

[merry inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-its-so-beautiful-gif-15644547

DISCORD FOR THE LAST TIME STOP SENDING GIFS TWICE!!! I AM TIRED OF HAVING TO DELETE THE SECOND ONE!! WITH EACH GIF YOU DOUBLE, I DOUBLE YOUR SUFFERING!

[spare sinew]

i found out why it happens

if its on mobile, when you click on a gif and it like doesnt send, so you click it again and it does send, the first time that you thought didnt work actually did send

https://tenor.com/view/oso-lunaistabby-luna-tabby-cat-gif-15027269540619359771

[merry inlet]

I’m pretty sure I am literally just tapping once

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26017314

Eh, maybe you’re right

[jovial hedge]

whos up shrimping it

[merry inlet]

I just tried with that gif and it did act like it didn’t send but it really did

Odd

[spare sinew]

:3, when you click on it it usually sends you back to the chat, the thing is sometimes is not doing that so you think you didnt click it

shrimple as that

[jovial hedge]

I LOVE SHRIMP

[spare sinew]

shrimp delicious

we need shrimp pleas

[merry inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-upturned-shrimp-makesweet-my-beloved-zeekerss-gif-6296684955692238076

[jovial hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-shrimp-animation-pixel-gif-6901986208266401917

hooh, close one

[jovial hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-upturned-shrimp-kill-blood-evil-gif-15196648424815408994

oh.

thats gore. of my comfort character.

[merry inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-funny-my-crush-gif-3428194

[midnight sable]

shrimp just like me fr

[spare sinew]

the same

no difference

[solemn isle]

I have had this happen a few times now in the main entrance tile, and the item is either impossible to get or needs very scuffed methods. Could this please be fixed?

[floral veldt]

I've had ghost girl spawn behind that door, too

it's kinda jank

[uneven tree]

Is Pathfinding lib broken? Every time my game goes to load it, it crashes

[jovial hedge]

downgrade to v72

v73 is broken

with mods

it crashes and doesnt work really

[uneven tree]

Thank you!

[solemn furnace]

Does anyone have a video of the old Ambush entity?

[jovial hedge]

long time no see mr riker

[solemn furnace]

YOO

[spare sinew]

Search it up on youtube!!

[floral veldt]

you mean halt?

[jovial hedge]

you were there for me at the beginning vro

have you seen my latest stuff?

[solemn furnace]

Oh yeah

No i didnt, lemme peep

[midnight sable]

https://youtu.be/U5RiUIWwrzQ

@solemn furnace

[feral meteor]

@strong thunder Sorry to bother you. I think that LC Office is broken in v73. I don't know if more is needed but a recompile with the new version of netcode patcher might fix it. Take your time.

[strong thunder]

yeah office is the only thing i did post a recomp for v73 for yet i think

[sturdy dawn]

yup, LC Office is broken in v73

the elevator is not working

[strong thunder]

has pathfindinglib updated? i was waiting for that since it's a required dependency but haven't been actively paying attention either

[sturdy dawn]

hmm, I think yes?
Last version was 6 days ago

[spare sinew]

yeah pathfinding was updated a while back

it works in v73

[strong thunder]

oke I'll make sure to do that soon then but im tired for today

[spare sinew]

oh yeah take your time

ty!

[strong thunder]

I posted the updated version recomped for v73 netcode + some minor feature changes and dependency updates. I also did the things Zaggy wanted me to do with minor changes to the offmesh link and they seem to get on/off the 3rd floor easier.
I also added SmartEnemyPathfinding as a dependency so masks can use the elevator. Even with my changes to the elevator link the ai still gets a little derpy sometimes so if it bothers you you can just disable the mod and it works fine without (except masks not using the elevator obv)

[jovial hedge]

thank you for cooking jacorncob!!

[floral veldt]

great work mr cob

[spare sinew]

Amzing cobnob!!!!

[livid python]

Appreciate it john cob

[pale socket]

Perhaps making the navmesh shorter will solve the problem. So entities won't try to open the door by the corners

[tiny wave]

Shorter or extending colliders would work ye

[livid python]

scoopy's dungeon used to have that problem

[spare sinew]

"used"

[pale socket]

And for some reason some entities are getting stuck on these spots.

[misty orchid]

"this is the third time i've been called up to the third floor this week and this elevator still isnt working"

[pale socket]

Maybe you will need to make a custom mimic like Scarlet Devil Mansion

[jovial hedge]

pretty sure this was already brought up and the answer was no

but i could be wrong

[livid python]

people still play with mimics?

[pale socket]

why not?

[floral veldt]

i do

[floral veldt]

ye idk it's a good mod

I'd disable mimics for office tho

iirc this has an interior blacklist

[pale socket]

Idk how hard it is to make custom mimics, but I hope Cabin devs can do it.

[sturdy dawn]

I'm pretty sure it needs the source code and a custom model to do that.
It'd take more time that the dev of this mod have

[floral veldt]

it has to be made by the same person who makes the interior iirc

[pale socket]

I know

[spare sinew]

Yeah, interior dev has to make them

Hard part is that mimic compatibility has to be in mind when starting the interior

Trying to add the compat after is way harder

And , i was gonna say most but actually is everyone, dont want to spend time adding that compatibility

One option would be a complete rewrite for them that enhances the compatibility

But thats also not really all that realistic

Not even mineshaft has compat

I love them, but its sad that it only works on a very very small amount of interiors

[dire vine]

[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object '') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object '') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object '') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object '') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object 'BreakerSwitch1') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object '') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object '') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object 'BreakerSwitch1') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object '') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object '') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object 'Cube (1)') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object '') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object '') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object 'BreakerSwitch3') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object '') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object '') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object 'BreakerSwitch2') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object 'PowerBoxDoor') is missing!
[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object 'Cube (1)') is missing!```

Can someone tell my why lc office is getting those missing scripts on gameobjects?

[strong thunder]

tldr in remaking it i had to rip a ton of assets from one untiy project to another that already had missing assets ripped from a different game entirely. it does nothing in game, it does not error or cause problems, just shoots a warning when loaded. you can ignore it.

[steep yacht]

Uhh so this happened
https://www.twitch.tv/bertogim/clip/BlushingJoyousTapirGingerPower-J18R2VTyUGE7x1pQ

[azure comet]

LMAO pretty sure Science Bird Tweaks fixes this

[steep yacht]

i have it

[azure comet]

Ah so it doesn't work for the LC Office elevator then

[pale socket]

Its only for mineshaft elevator

[pale socket]

which mod that changes the spectator screen?

[wary flare]

Ye it's a problem with PlayerPhysicsRegions in general, but it do specifically be fixed for Mineshaft

[steep yacht]

advanced features i think

[worn lava]

Does anyone know what mod has been causing the coil heads to not have lighting?

[floral veldt]

camera thingy only displays viewmodel stuffs

[floral veldt]

NEVER EVER GO TO OFFICE TITAN

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/lvKcosLIi1VBUtCPE?invite=cr-MSxISnUsMjYyMzg4OTQx

insane shit LMAO

i joke but this was actually kind of cool generation

[stuck glade]

Jesus christ

[solemn isle]

My biggest issue with this interior is how huge it is, I constantly have to play with it in my modpack

I need to shrink it as much as possible without just breaking it

[glossy sluice]

is this can with meltdown?

[spare sinew]

is this uhm

this works with meltdown yes!!

[valid jackal]

Please for the love of god make some tiles smaller 😭

This is Experimentation

With a map tile size divider of 1.5

and +6 scrap added to its spawns, like Mineshaft

This is almost impossible to loot well

[floral veldt]

Yup. It generates obsenely big

I only run office on moons with 1.0-1.25 interior size

[solemn isle]

Make sure to change the random size multipliers to both be 2, the default is 2 and 3, and 3 makes very large interiors

Also set it to have 2 main paths rather than 1 (done in LC Office config), the generation is different and tends to be smaller

[jovial hedge]

agreednits

[solemn isle]

With these settings I find the interior behaves itself a lot more, though sometimes it is comically small

[floral veldt]

it's damn good on vodka's Kuromori imo, but that's cuz it's tiny

[floral veldt]

I do use 2 main paths instead of 1 ye

the other settings you mentioned are configurable where?

[valid jackal]

But there are three floors

What would be the point of the third if there's no path there

Is there any other way to keep it small while retaining all 3 floors

[solemn isle]

It can still generate 3 floors

[spare sinew]

you can have 3 floors? i thought it has like impossible or extremely rare

[solemn isle]

2 main paths just makes them smaller

[spare sinew]

yeah i thought it was that way

[jovial hedge]

you need to stop letting me eat entire floors

[solemn isle]

It is pretty common on larger interior moons

[feral smelt]

its called a config option

hehehehe

[spare sinew]

didnt know it had that option

[solemn isle]

You change them with a config mod like Lunar or LQ

[floral veldt]

it was very rare before Jacob took over

[spare sinew]

i always saw it as like 1 big floor, one medium and one with like a hallway or nothing

[floral veldt]

nowadays almost every time you go to the office there's 3 floors

[spare sinew]

:o

[feral smelt]

tho I usually keep main branches to 2

[floral veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-5-gif-364825635715824204

i hate configing so fucking much

goddammit

[spare sinew]

yeah devs should have those things configured for every user instead

https://tenor.com/view/zhouzhou-orange-cat-cat-with-orange-sleepy-cat-gif-14937184825975080647

[floral veldt]

cheese we're all grabbing you by the base of the neck and ripping your vertebrae out of your body dude

[valid jackal]

Lol we just figured out how spawn curves work, and mind you we're only on Experimentation still

We still need to figure out how hazard curves work

[floral veldt]

I hope you are enjoying that, god knows I wouldn't

[spare sinew]

not if i do it to every single one of you first

[floral veldt]

I'm sure your shit will be peak

apple

[feral smelt]

nonono, we should kidnap little gremlins and teach them game balance so they can do it for us in our basements

[valid jackal]

We are weirdly enough

[spare sinew]

spawn curves are so crazy

[floral veldt]

too late you're already dead

[valid jackal]

It's cool to see our craft come to fruition

We're just worried it'll come out subpar though in actual gameplay

We're dreading playtesting Experimentation tonight lol

[feral smelt]

im being real I'm not even gonna both changing spawn curves

imma just work around what each moon already has

and organize them that way

[spare sinew]

what i just do is copy the default curve and just use that for the moons

[feral smelt]

that would make it so much worse wtf are you talking about

moons have defaults already

[valid jackal]

In relation to the Office, 2:2 seems to be the best for it
1-2 generates very small offices, and 2-3 generates offices almost impossible to loot

[feral smelt]

I dont need to change them

[spare sinew]

wait what

did i understand it wrong

oh WAIT

yes i misundertood hehe

yeah im NOT touching that omg

scary

[feral smelt]

and like, I dont really have a reason too tbh

unless I really need to nerf

something

[valid jackal]

Would you like to playtest CC Experimentation with me and Purple tonight

If we finish it in time

[floral veldt]

im going to sleep in 30 mins so prolly not :[ sorry

[spare sinew]

goodnight dr minecraft

[valid jackal]

Aight

[spare sinew]

sleep well

[valid jackal]

Ya

[floral veldt]

good night queso good night zygarde

the doctor

[valid jackal]

Good night Mont y

[spare sinew]

Minecraft

[midnight sable]

real

[spare sinew]

fake

[midnight sable]

https://tenor.com/view/chat-cat-fromage-goatplaybanjo-gif-14222499703250118481

[valid jackal]

Wanna know how much we hate the sapsucker

Eyeless dogs now have 15 hp and baboon hawks have 5 hp

Giant sapsuckers in return have 10, and can only deal one damage against entities

So now eyeless dogs and baboon hawks actually have a chance to win when fighting against a sapsucker

[valid jackal]

We're also accommodating the baboon hawk's hp increase by lowering their spawnrate; we're not that stupid

Oh yeah to the dev the power unit and Upturned apparatus scan nodes overlap

Might wanna fix that or smthn

[misty orchid]

the ultimate apparatus

[warm patio]

Interesting change to make. Can make gameplay feel more varied too if you can just get lucky or try to get enemies to target the sapsucker

[valid jackal]

We mainly made the change because in no way modern day dinosaurs can consistently take on modern day mammals; they're just too brittle for that now, and thus the vanilla sapsucker's game design reflects Zeekerss' hellbence on making the entity as uncheesable as possible

[warm patio]

X3

Yeah it does make sense

Do you mind a DM @valid jackal ?

[valid jackal]

Sure

[valid jackal]

Sapsuckers will spawn on every moon to reflect their invasive nature as per the bestiary too

But they'll be rare on certain moons though, i.e. Rend and Titan, so you don't go in everywhere expecting to get some eggs

[spare sinew]

hiiii

hey people!

so uhm

how broken is shimp

[livid python]

shrimp is kil

[spare sinew]

is it known why some people can use it without the game like imploding?

the only time i used it, it didnt even let me open the game

[merry inlet]

Shrimply

Idk, it spammed errors in previous versions but seemed functionally ok. I’ve heard it’s worse in multiplayer I think, and I imagine that’s especially true now that the networking stuff has changed

[sonic mango]

I mean, it's broken but that does not mean the game is not going to work

[spare sinew]

i got a blue screen warning on my pc telling me, if you proceed, your entire block will explode

[sonic mango]

It will just... Start spamming shit and maybe crash, depending on circumstances

[spare sinew]

then we can still use it fine

if we dont get those crashes

[merry inlet]

That was probably a weird coincidence.

[sonic mango]

No, it won't work eitherway because it has the networking outdated

And the ai was broken before V73 so

[floral veldt]

it spammed errors, got stuck a ton (ran in place) and its "angry mode" didn't show for clients

[spare sinew]

so if you were to play on v72 it would have worked?

[sonic mango]

No

[azure comet]

No

[spare sinew]

okiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[floral veldt]

It hasn't worked in like a year lol

[spare sinew]

well context: please read #help-and-troubleshooting , i had a bad sleep so im like, i dont feel like explaining that

but the guy says shirmp working fine

and idk xD

[sonic mango]

maybe he thinks the log spamming, the getting stuck, desync all over or not do anything is part of the enemy

[merry inlet]

If they’re single player they probably wouldn’t noticeably see desync

[floral veldt]

yes

[spare sinew]

XD

[spare sinew]

maybe yeah but baby shim also had issue before unity upd

i mean idk for me it would just crash the game entirely

idk how others can join a game

impressive

[merry inlet]

Tbh I don’t remember when I tested it. Might’ve been several versions back where it was kind of ok but now it’s worse

[sonic mango]

could be anything, from a beefier computer to different graphics card, or simply randomness tbh lmao

[wary prawn]

very

[spare sinew]

ty

[wary prawn]

no problem

[spare sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-group-chat-dead-chat-xd-gif-11830707118005268792

[primal sail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-shrimp-animation-pixel-gif-6901986208266401917

[jovial hedge]

thwip thwap

[primal sail]

pawht piwht

meow

[white flicker]

🐱 Meow!

[stuck glade]

Will uh

Shrimp ever come back?

[midnight sable]

at this point, i wouldnt count on it

[primal sail]

Congratulations @tiny wave, you have been appointed to add Shrimp into Code Rebirth

[stuck glade]

damn

[tiny wave]

I'm ok

Tis Jacobs job

[primal sail]

Congratulation ok, you have been appointed to add Shrimp into Code Rebirth

[tiny wave]

I'm ok

[primal sail]

You've introduced yourself already

[tiny wave]

I'm not sure I did

[primal sail]

Congratulation not sure I did, you have been appointed to add Shrimp into Code Rebirth

[tiny wave]

I'm

[primal sail]

Congratulation , you have been appointed to add Shrimp into Code Rebirth

[livid python]

Congratulations @tiny wave !

With pride, I hereby annouce, that YOU have been appointed the duty to fix, code, and add Shrimp into Code Rebirth

[floral veldt]

im pretty sure jacob's only supposed to handle LC office

[tiny wave]

he mentioned to me ages ago about rewriting the shrimp AI, so as far as im aware, he's the one meant to be doing it

[floral veldt]

cr tho

every good is in cr so it should go in cr!!

cmon code it cmon

https://giphy.com/gifs/chiikawa-hachiware-rZmWH1k7ESg3ccoUeP

[tiny wave]

Here's the thing... The enemy's concept is ass gameplay wise 😔

I remember talking to Jacob that it should probably be heavily changed

Perma eating scrap is so bad

[misty orchid]

it is
zeekerss himself considered it bad

it was an original maneater idea at one point but zeekerss knows that giving up the main objective to survive is bad

now making it so that a DIFFERENT thing pacifies shrimp, that would work

but obviously that's not what shrimp intended

[merry inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-upturned-shrimp-makesweet-my-beloved-zeekerss-gif-6296684955692238076

[livid python]

https://tenor.com/view/the-upturned-shrimp-makesweet-my-beloved-zeekerss-gif-6296684955692238076

[misty orchid]

but to be fair, the shrimp was the way he was in the Upturned because in that game, furniture (his main gimmick) was expendable.

[floral veldt]

yeah lol

[livid python]

best solution: lets swap duck entity with shrimp CR

[jovial hedge]

maybe you have to do a 500 step minigame to play with shrimp, and that pacifies him!!!

[primal sail]

I think Shrimp should give you something back sometimes

[jovial hedge]

wait

chewy touy

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chew-kitty-silly-eating-gif-13017001213853077398

[midnight sable]

i dont really see how his mechanics could be changed and still have him somewhat faithful to the upturned

scrap is like, the only thing you can "give" to him in lethal

besides shop items

[jovial hedge]

i was thinking you can let him chew on your scrap for a bit

and take it back

could come with the downside of slowly depreciating its value, but never making it totally worthless

and then if you do this shrimp would follow you and eat monsters

(occasionally)

[floral veldt]

unironically peak, i hate that thing

[floral veldt]

spawns extra scrap that's super low value that's upturned themed and you feed it that instead maybe

[jovial hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-writing-fire-his-writing-is-fire-is-this-fire-hold-up-gif-15400153686296022809

[floral veldt]

you can still feed it normal scrap but the special ones pacify it more

[exotic socket]

why not like

when shrimp is in the spawn pool it spawns scraps that have basically no value and are heavy or smth

and you throw those at him to pacify him

[stuck glade]

Oooo Shrimp convo

https://tenor.com/view/the-upturned-upturned-shrimp-stare-zeekerss-gif-2346546185426551296

[exotic socket]

and the actual good scraps are a last resort if u run out of things to throw at him

[spare sinew]

yesss please

or maybe those scrap are really low value

like no more than 10

[exotic socket]

broken chair/empty box lookin

[solemn isle]

Null Fight from Baldi’s Basics in LC 🔥

[floral veldt]

pretty much what I said, ye

it's not a bad idea

[vague acorn]

is shrimp still dead

[stuck glade]

I asked this before and I think it is

[vague acorn]

shit

[stuck glade]

start here

[vague acorn]

you'd think by now someone would make a fork of it

[stuck glade]

i know

[floral veldt]

enemies are tough tbh

[misty orchid]

idk why you'd want shrimp anyway

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1336036521932751023/1477720584514437270/caption.gif

i want halt back

-# for many reasons that's a joke

[midnight sable]

both is good

[primal sail]

I almost did, but then I remember that I have no clue what I am doing

[vague acorn]

shrimp

they were annoying in hindsight since they actively made the team lose scrap buh still

[misty orchid]

he's cute but

it's a bad mechanic 🥀

[spare sinew]

I dont think is thaaaat bad

Could be improved

Kinda like the fiend

[stuck glade]

Wait a minute

Why are we complaining about it’s mechanic?

Maneater eats scrap too…?

[spare sinew]

Yeah was thinking the same

But maneater eating is kinda rare

[stuck glade]

I only just remembered that