More Interiors [2.5.0] - Major_And_Skiz

[kind stump]

@fleet cypress What moon are you playing on?

[fleet cypress]

infernis

[kind stump]

Raise it with the infernis Dev, must have redlocustbees as a spawn in the enemies for the moon rather than daytimespawns

[rich cedar]

there is bees inside in infernis

[kind stump]

Ah that would be why

Strange choice of spawns I must say

[fleet cypress]

for some reason rats love to run into landmines

[left hamlet]

for some reason bee hives can spawn inside for infernis bc ig its too hot outside

im pretty sure this was on purpose though

[deft bear]

Yeah, it's intentional.
due to the increase of volcanic activity all sorts of insects infiltrated the facilities to seek refuge
And you can see bee spawn rate was increased in the changelog as well.

[left hamlet]

its easy scrap if its near a fire exit

[deft bear]

bees :)

[crimson oxide]

its a death trap if it spawns near an entrance

[left hamlet]

they would have to be right infront of it to not give you time to run and it would be even more rare on bunker

[nimble patrol]

Oh interesting I didn't know infernis added the bees to Interiors

[hasty crow]

it seems as though the bees don't follow their nest if taken by a hoarding bug tho (havent tested with players)

which is honestly kinda funny

[austere flax]

Hello!
Is it possible to make the bunker less big?

[nimble patrol]

Yes

If you are in config there is a overide dungeon length

Set to 1 or lower

[austere flax]

I tried 0.25 but it was resetted to -1 by the game

[nimble patrol]

Oh hmm did you hit save in the top right in the launcher

[austere flax]

Of course

[nimble patrol]

Also I could give it a look

🤔

I am gonna adjust size next update too

I don't mean for the whole dungeon to generate so massive

[austere flax]

Cool.
The scrap is too rare with current size and my crewmates do not like it 🙂

[nimble patrol]

Ye I am adding configs for that stuff too

[nimble patrol]

here you can also change the limit apparently this one that baty has over rides mine

setting to 1 max might also help limit i will check my self too

[austere flax]

Oh, I have different config.
I think I need to delete it to refresh

By the way, do you know easier way to update config files without losing it's settings?

[hasty crow]

config for LLL depends on what modded moons/interiors you have, it will update whenever you load in a game

[austere flax]

Ah, this is LLL config, I got it. Thanks

[nimble patrol]

Yes LLL config

It is different

[thin coral]

Consider reposting in #mod-showcase for the sewer tileset yall are working on, a sneak peek there would go great, I think :p

[nimble patrol]

will do

[slender fjord]

wanted to say not sure if LLL config is working correctly, even setting the multiplier to 0.25 the bunker is still enormous

i had the same problem where it's just too big to find any meaningful amount of scrap, but i tried a couple different values and it seems to not have any effect

[nimble patrol]

hmm will give it a test

[honest lion]

i tried before setting it all the way to 0.1 and it was still massive on my end too

[left hamlet]

yeah ive heard off LLL config setting not working before

they are still trying to fix these issues

[nimble patrol]

so which settings let me test

@slender fjord @honest lion @left hamlet
can you also tell me which moon if possible

[slender fjord]

IME any moon, all of them had the same behavior including vanilla ones. you could just test on Experimentation

[left hamlet]

i dont mess with the size i personally think its fine

[nimble patrol]

ok i just tested offense no changes it is 113 tiles which is way higher then what i set

[left hamlet]

dayum

[nimble patrol]

default will give 113

it is only supposed to be 45 to 80

so way high

[slender fjord]

yea i kinda figured lol

[left hamlet]

okay im not gonna lie that explains a lot i was being generous

[honest lion]

those settings. also i was using march

[nimble patrol]

recording video so i keep track

if LLL bumps up numbers i might lower to accomodate or overide LLL

[left hamlet]

only things ive changed

[nimble patrol]

gotcha

[left hamlet]

havent messed with bunker flow

[nimble patrol]

ye it should be low on easy moons and high on difficult moons

which it is not doing

[left hamlet]

ah i see

also i always wondered why was this mod called More interiors and not like bunker interior im guessing your planning to make more in the future no offense

[nimble patrol]

you are correct sewer tile is next just delayed cause of IRL so i am fixing bunker instead for now

see for experimentation should be around 60 and that is for factory

can't see it cause of cullfactory but it is this small

[solar topaz]

does dis overide lll config

[left hamlet]

i dont use cull factory because i use camera mods and body cam mods

[nimble patrol]

checking now wanted to know for sure

since i am unsure my self

[solar topaz]

bet

[nimble patrol]

march no changes default 132 tiles

that is way to many

not even 4 person can explore

[left hamlet]

yeah we usually dont

[nimble patrol]

only thing i can do is lower generation or increase scrap but that would make this unbalanced early game

[left hamlet]

if default is 113 and march is 132 i cant even imagine how big titan would be

[nimble patrol]

so i will fix generation

right lol

[left hamlet]

yeah the amount of scrap that bunker has currently is quite balanced with i think like 10% less than facility

but thats because of the scale

[nimble patrol]

someone did mention like long big generations and long moon time as a mod idea lol

basically generating 2 dungeons for 1 moon

[left hamlet]

also can you raise the height of which scrap spawn by a little bit because ive had to go searching through the bumps and hills in the floor for the hit box of items man

[honest lion]

march was funny bc a friend went in a fire exit, i went in main, got snuck up on by a bracken, panic hit it with a shovel, and died. said friend was inside the bunker from 2pm-midnight and said bracken was never seen again because even the bracken couldn't path all the way over to him due to how big it was lol

[nimble patrol]

yeah that is the other issue lol

so massive bracken gets lost

[acoustic cove]

@nimble patrol do you have any more interor plans?

[nimble patrol]

@acoustic cove

[left hamlet]

yo those are fire as hell

that 1st image is simular to the sewer from the scoopy variety

[nimble patrol]

just ironing out the look before i get it and add all the lethal company stuff

ye but you are not gonna be in water area most of time

[acoustic cove]

is that a sewer?

[nimble patrol]

yes

[left hamlet]

im glad your adding more rooms that arent giant ass hallways for thumpers to crush you

[nimble patrol]

scoopy and us had same idea at the same time

[acoustic cove]

i want to mention the fact that the variety mod already has sewers but this might be much better ngl

[nimble patrol]

lol they also helping with water shader

[left hamlet]

fair but i think you did it a little better in some departments

[acoustic cove]

@nimble patrol also is the sewers also gonna be weirdly small like the bunker?

[left hamlet]

the sewers isnt gonna probably be half the map

[nimble patrol]

it should be more tight turns less big open door ways

there are big areas like the one with the pipes

[left hamlet]

yeah or like big hall ways with doors leading to those back areas

like a reverse tent

[acoustic cove]

i want to have the mimic mod compatible but that doesn't work because the interiors being weirdly small

[nimble patrol]

SCP has same issue

[left hamlet]

i think you mean the door being giant

[nimble patrol]

we scaled our doors down where mimic has normal doors that are supposed to match other factory doors

[acoustic cove]

why exactly?

[left hamlet]

interesting

[nimble patrol]

ye we are trying to figure that out too maybe the import from lethal assets messed up objects

it could also be we scaled the door and not the prefab

so it is taking the overall scale but i will have that fixed next update

have it in bug reports folder

[left hamlet]

you could ask piggy who made lc office the mimic mods works great on that interior

[nimble patrol]

ye i just think it is a scaling issue

which is not to bad fix

[left hamlet]

im glad to see new tiles being made this is the 3rd one ive seen with some really impressive tiles

recently added

after this update this will definetely be one of my friends favorites

[misty kite]

the texture style reminds me a bit of TF2

[nimble patrol]

try my best to make it work

[nimble patrol]

ye i agree on that lol

[misty kite]

that wasn't a knock

I really dig the TF2 style

[nimble patrol]

@misty kite yes I agree i like tf2 style too

played TF2 alot

[misty kite]

i've never played 😆

[nimble patrol]

😂

@honest lion @slender fjord @left hamlet
this is setting that actually lower the Generation

the dungeon scaler

not the multipler

[left hamlet]

i see

so this should be the config?

[nimble patrol]

yes for LLL

[left hamlet]

how many tiles till be on march with 132

like now with this

[nimble patrol]

that is default lol

0.5 scaler makes it 62 tiles

[left hamlet]

okay

ill probably set it to around 60%-80% the default

[nimble patrol]

so keeping it 1 min 1 max and scaler 0.5

[slender fjord]

I have my scalar set to 0 which should make it not higher than the max

[nimble patrol]

the 0.2 0.2 doesn't register

[slender fjord]

Which I had set to 0.25

[nimble patrol]

no apperently 0 does nothing lol

for scaler

[slender fjord]

That's so dumb lol

I'll try 0.5 in a min and give it a shot

[nimble patrol]

👍

[left hamlet]

where do you change this config again?

[slender fjord]

The Lethal Level Loader config

[left hamlet]

okay

[slender fjord]

Just search Level in your mod manager config editor and you'll find it

[left hamlet]

also what has the setting meant lol

[slender fjord]

Yea that config doesn't do anything

[left hamlet]

i thought it was a moon tbh but i cna t find it

[slender fjord]

ok setting this, will see how it goes now

[slender fjord]

it is but that config doesn't do anything, just configure everything in the LLL config

this one

[left hamlet]

yeah i found it

im chaning it now to like 0.75

[slender fjord]

it definitely has affected other interiors, many doors are locked and it seems smaller

will update when i get a bunker because im too lazy to just change the config again

[left hamlet]

yeah im not going 1:1 with majors settings because they seem a little extreme

[slender fjord]

ok yea update, changing the scalar setting to 0.5 definitely fixed the settings not applying, but the bunker is still way way bigger compared to other interiors on the same multiplier

on Experimentation, bunker was like 6 to 8 times bigger than any of the other including the vanilla ones

at least its manageable currently but that was at 0.25, for anyone who sees this i would honestly try 0.1 or 0.15 before increasing it any further

[left hamlet]

well facility and mansion are way more enclosed and have 3 times smaller hallways

[slender fjord]

Yep, I always leave those at default settings because of that

Other interiors just have more square footage on the floor to cover so loot spawning is more sparse

[left hamlet]

bunker feels like it was made for actual tanks to drive thru it lol

[slender fjord]

Tiger 2 mod when?

I want drivable vehicles that can run over brackens

[left hamlet]

maybe one day

[nimble patrol]

ye thanks for the input will adjust the bunker to be smaller

[reef lion]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[worldly bramble]

why the bunker don't spawn?

[bright lark]

depends on many factors. Don't spawn where, what mods do you have (the dependencies), what did you put in teh config?

take an image of how you have the config setup, give a list of your dependencies, and describe where it isn't spawning.

[bright lark]

All doesn't fit here (nor work here I believe). Read the boxed locations

If you want to force bunker to appear, just set the bunker rarity on the top there to 9999

That'll set it to near guaranteed values (Not 100%... you can't ever make it really 100%)

[fleet cypress]

if you do list on the first row make sure to add planets in the second row

name:weight

[bright lark]

^

[fleet cypress]

and what masterkev said for general or like all pool of planets

[bright lark]

Good luck - and report back to with what happened after you've done this. c:

[worldly bramble]

for example i write all: 300?

[fleet cypress]

i send you my config pic in a sec

[bright lark]

I'll leave you to this. I go afk. .u.

[fleet cypress]

the number behind : means how less rare it will be the higher it goes as example 9999999 is 100% and 1 is like 0.0001% to be it

300 is the default to most facility interior spawns to its a 50% to even both out

[worldly bramble]

thank

[fleet cypress]

no problem, just make sure whenever you set stuff like this that even when it doesnt feel like it, it sometimes just needs a few attempts until you have it, unless you put it on 1000-99999 then its more garanteed then normal

[simple yoke]

@nimble patrol
After playing many games with others that come to the LFG chat I have compiled some of their most high priority issues that I noticed them experiencing.
As well as reasons that they dislike or would shy away from the bunker interior.

Substance:

• Often the bunker feels like it has a lot of space but very little scrap. its decor makes players extremely interested and increases their expectations, however I believe its emptiness lets down those grand expectations. They feel loot could be everywhere and find none. (Could you have it more populated by default? How do I fill the bunker more to make it feel full in the meantime for testing?)
• This also seems to apply to monsters. As they seem to get lost in their own section of the bunker and are not seen again. Some players never even run into the bulk of the enemies as they are far off in another direction that the player will never get too.

Navigation:

• Most of the pathways in the bunker seem to trail off on their own and never converge. Players easily get lost and find that there are not enough Looping Pathways or ways to stumble upon a way to Leave. This causes frustration and upset when they have ventured in and spent all the aloted time to finally get a full inventory of scrap and cannot get back. For some less skilled players. They never get back. This has sometimes led to rage quitting. This especially seems more common in lower cost moons. The interior seems to large for the small amount of scrap that generates. ( Would it be possible to have configurations that reduce Branching directions and or the overall generated dungeon scale more so then you have now, or dynamically reduce it based on mood difficulty?)
• Asking further on this, players stated that the bunker seems to have very few Landmarks for figuring your way back. Adding a handful of large respawning decorations that very, would be a great help to others distinguishing the same hallway from others of its like.
• Players also stated that there was a lack of Light, causing further disorientation and confusion. I had seen a member here mention previously that they would love to see various Hi Tech blue glowing machinery, seemingly of Nazi Zombie, Steampunk, old forgotten tech astatic. I believe possibly adding the aforementioned Landmarks and providing them with a light source of some kind would increase player enjoyment, navigation. and retention.

Gameplay:

• Due to its openness, players felt hard-pressed to to find solutions to rampaging thumpers or other hostile enemies. The open nature of the facility creates few obstacles for the players to use to hide or dodge enemy encounter. Giving them a sense of an inability to survive in the environment. (Could you possible have old war relics strewn more throughout the facility like barricades or razor wire that players can duck behind? This also may help with culling. reducing the players rendered vision and improving FPS, this is also a later mentioned problem.)

Performance:

• Players often found the bunker to be a lag=gy area of play. I do not have a suggestion for this one. Your all on your own. 😛

[left hamlet]

yeah if you look up hes working on more tiles and fixing the size of the interior bc he accidentally made it double what its supposed to be

[left hamlet]

here is some tiles hes workin on

[stable minnow]

That’s for a completely different interior

[simple yoke]

That was his sewer correct?

[stable minnow]

Yea

[left hamlet]

yeah i was just showing that bunker is capable to improve

[simple yoke]

Oh yes of course so. If I did not think that I would not be spending time to Test it. 😛
I am excited to see what Major and the More Interiors Team have in store.
It is hard to wait. hahaha

https://tenor.com/view/dont-care-how-i-want-it-now-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-i-need-it-now-i-dont-care-do-what-i-said-gif-21442817

[nimble patrol]

Thanks for input I am hard work at coding and modifications just takes a while since never done code or modding before the fact we got it out in a month is thanks to me being persistent but thanks again.

I have been updating almost every week lol
making all this stuff self learned most of me just reading docs and tutorials

I am thankful people are giving great feedback

[simple yoke]

I also may be interested in expanding my skills into this in the future. To be able to help and submit fixes instead of just reporting problems. If you have time in the future if you would let me pick your brain I would be extremely grateful. 😄

[nimble patrol]

I hope when I get it on the git hub that it would be easier to track bugs and what not.

👍

[simple yoke]

I am greatful for this. I need my fix. haha

I am not addicted.

[nimble patrol]

LOL me neither right since I was up till 2 am working on rat ai and bug fixes

Also never intended for it to be massive where nothing is found just sometimes code and implementation Don't work as intended since I don't read code well lol

[fleet cypress]

i seen your uniforms in the sand that one time, also why do rats always kill me when running over mines? :(

[nimble patrol]

Oh the set off mines

I haven't experienced that before

[fleet cypress]

i use fairai everyone gets shot or blown up haha

[nimble patrol]

Oh lol

[left hamlet]

yeah thats expected then

[fleet cypress]

yes but why do rats always do that their like sneaky lil shits that run over the beeping mine and all your hear is TRIP BOOOM

[left hamlet]

realistically i dont think rats are heavy enough for millitary land mines

[fleet cypress]

lmao its funny tho

not gonna lie laughing my ass of everytime it happens

[left hamlet]

yeah trying to avoid a mine just to see a rat walk next to you

[nimble patrol]

Initial AI is being improved but yeah it's funny they set off mines with the one mod

[fleet cypress]

i also have a tiny item idea for rats.... you know what im going for

how about some mouse traps

and then when caught we get them as scrap heh

[left hamlet]

i thought you were going to recommend the plague for a second

[nimble patrol]

LOL

[fleet cypress]

nooooooooooooo xD

[nimble patrol]

I have ideas for rats I am currently working on

[left hamlet]

poisonous rats would make them a much bigger threat

[fleet cypress]

would be funny if you had a pet rat

[nimble patrol]

I have something like that in work

[fleet cypress]

doesnt have to be alive just as a thing to put down or something but well the bunker has evolved greatly and i love it

[patent shore]

Boids!

[nimble patrol]

Give cheese and they might help 🙂

[fleet cypress]

i been using this interior the most!

[left hamlet]

it would be cool if they could start hoarding you so you start taking damage like the mini goombas in mario ds or like mosquitos

[fleet cypress]

its almost on all my moons that i have lmao

[nimble patrol]

Similar but not exactly

[fleet cypress]

i havent seen them form a rat king yet is that already there or still work in progress

[nimble patrol]

But I did use same concept from the video

[patent shore]

Ah nice

[left hamlet]

i remember in ratitoue (idk how to spell it) the rats tied the manager up and threw him away if that was a feature it would be halarious

[nimble patrol]

#1196710290457382953 message
This is how close I am with rats right now

They follow a leader
Then I need to add behavior

[left hamlet]

the video wont load for me bc im usually public wifi rn

[nimble patrol]

Ah gotcha

[fleet cypress]

Lol this is like a new game where you play as big rat and collect smaller rats to increase yourself just like in all these .io games

i love it!

also is the Flintlock item from you?

[nimble patrol]

No ?

[fleet cypress]

ah it has pew pew sounds i still dont know where its from since i mostly have your interior on haha

well thank you for all your work you really came far there cant wait for your sewers interior

[nimble patrol]

Here is gif 🙂

[kind stump]

I hate to be that person major but can we have a config setting to disable the rats? Don't get me wrong I'm a rat man, I love me some rats but I know some people would like the interior without creature additions

Bit like how office is with shrimp, shrimp can be disabled

[nimble patrol]

Yes it is in work I haven't updated yet since doing fixes for bugs and testing and improving.
Only showing stuff I find interesting.

[fleet cypress]

imagine a rat with a little ww1 suit lol jk

[nimble patrol]

Private ratatouille

[fleet cypress]

on duty!

would be also kinda creepy having random old disorted sound music play from radio or the box from the desk

not always but random chance to be a short 3-5 second track then you turn around looking at the desk or item and be like "what the fuck"

[kind stump]

Like what the masks do, I swear 180 hours in they still surprise me with the sounds

[fleet cypress]

they do the laugh from it creeps me out sometimes

[simple yoke]

you should keep this rofl

impliment

[kind stump]

I rarely get creeped out by sounds but those ones I never expect

First time I heard it I was taking items down on titan, on the ladder and just heard a laugh behind me

[left hamlet]

Oh this reminds of minecraft animals

[slender fjord]

drank too much yesterday and forgot to mention, i found 1 single bug, the WheelRim scrap item does not appear on the scanner until you pick it up and drop it

ill try to record a video of it happening for clarity. unsure if this occurs with other scrap items

[acoustic cove]

@nimble patrol do you plan on adding more enemies?

[nimble patrol]

Currently just the rats at moment maybe some bugs but not after rats no

Also plan to make rats also a mod that can be used for other interiors and things

[slender fjord]

here is a video example of what i mean

[left hamlet]

Oh yeah this happens to me and it was really confusing when this scrap was added I forgot to address it

[nimble patrol]

@left hamlet Ye the orientation of the scanner node is in the ground so I just need to fix the way it drops
I have that in the fixes log

It is just in the wheel rim

Thanks for the report I think I know most of the issues
Now

[slender fjord]

good luck

[drifting cloud]

Rats man

[left hamlet]

Plague time

[nimble patrol]

Able to just swap models and animation with how I got it setup

So can have it spawn different variations of rats or creatures

These are models I have made the robot forklifts called Lift-O

[left hamlet]

bro has actual lab rats

[fleet cypress]

will they get a tiny hop when running or something?

[left hamlet]

it would be cool if when they run into you with push you back slightly or foward this could make for some dangerous scenarios

like running from a thumper but then the rats bring you to them

[still quarry]

This reminds me of Pikmin

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-4-pikmin-red-pikmin-blue-pikmin-yellow-pikmin-gif-16144474643686347777

[left hamlet]

plaguemin

[pliant oasis]

Thank you I thought I was going insane because I could swear that happened to me as well

[bright lark]

Potential conflict with the SCPinterior generation mod recently?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185926908664348813/1210373979852906506/image.png?ex=65ea539c&is=65d7de9c&hm=2184a92f97b9a7d97cc7fbff83c79310d34d29331b08cc3c72b552ad71f402e7&

SCP and Bunker are both visible

[left hamlet]

its because of LLL

[bright lark]

do I got to nuke LLL config or somethin'?

[left hamlet]

cant or else interiors dont exist sadly

syncing configs and getting rid of old ones that are unused helps

basically if your game isnt 1:1 stuff like this will happen rarely

[patent shore]

make sure your friends and you import from the same code

[nimble patrol]

Oh weird

Lol dungeon fusion

[left hamlet]

its happened before to me its one of 3 things that occur from lll

you can see a different one, both, or see the real one but be stuck falling in the void forever

[nimble patrol]

Yeah I had that happen when files miss match, config not synced and or playing on a wrong version with friends

Would be nice if the r2modman synced all those

Instead of everyone having to share and update profiles

[left hamlet]

yeah i r2mod man is much better but out shined by thunderstore despite thunder being ass

[humble narwhal]

Configs in general for bepinex are pretty scuffed and not very malleable

[formal turret]

when I read it again "MoreInteriors" does it mean you plan to do another interior soon?

[left hamlet]

im pretty sure they arent planning to do bunker for the rest of the year

[nimble patrol]

@left hamlet @formal turret I am gonna add more tiles to bunker but yes there is sewer coming

#1196710290457382953 message

[left hamlet]

yeah bunker has an okay variety but it in dire need of some more tiles

[nimble patrol]

#1196710290457382953 message

@left hamlet

This link I showed a tile being worked on

[left hamlet]

damn i didnt even see that

[nimble patrol]

Like a ware house or a ammo supply area

[left hamlet]

that is some crazy ass geometry

[nimble patrol]

Ye that is me cutting it down this one should have over head catwalks

[left hamlet]

like the stair room

[nimble patrol]

Trying to make a medium room between the big room in factory that has the slide and drop in the middle

[left hamlet]

they could be a hangar with a tank or plane or something

oh a slide

that could be like the bomb converyor belt in half life 1

[nimble patrol]

Ye I thought about having hanging axles and engines are car parts

From chains

[left hamlet]

yeah a workshop feel

[nimble patrol]

Ye exactly want to make it fit the workshop feel

[left hamlet]

lol i just told my friend that theres going to be a new sewer and he is so excited to replace the scoopy one bc of the parkour

[nimble patrol]

Also since we have tons of car parts now makes sense lol

Axles Engine Wheel Metal sheet

[left hamlet]

yeah the parts could be from military jeeps tanks and jets

[nimble patrol]

Yeah was looking into that

[left hamlet]

though they would be heavy as hell

[nimble patrol]

LOL

Yeah

Will try and make it spawn closer to front for this one

Since they would have to have it close to entrance for it

[left hamlet]

💀

[nimble patrol]

You would need a full team to carry it lol

Plus some

[left hamlet]

yeah a team of forklifts

[nimble patrol]

Yeah was gonna put a forklift model in there somewhere too

[left hamlet]

a missle scrap would be fire though or maybe like a rusty grenade

[nimble patrol]

Yep have a armory/army shooting range in the works too

Would be a small room

[left hamlet]

oh yeah i was just thinking of army base rooms and you already got barracks and the cafeteria

[nimble patrol]

Yeah had a bunch other rooms planned but would be slow to roll out after sewer is done

[left hamlet]

there could also be a war room like this (yes the left one is tf2)

[nimble patrol]

LOL
Had a Idea for a PA room with radio equipment where you can broadcast voice throughout bunker

[left hamlet]

dude my friends would use that to say the dumbest shi

thats like the scp secret lab messaging thing

[nimble patrol]

Yeah but it would be a one time thing like a last resort to tell people to get out or something since it is old system and can't be used more then once lol

Or to say something dumb and waste it lol

But still workshoping ideas

[left hamlet]

i though the radio scrap did that tbh

never actually tried it

[nimble patrol]

I tried but I might figure it out after I tinker with it

I only got it working with you can speak into it but can't hear out lol

[left hamlet]

wouldnt be the opposite for the radio

these are all really good ideas though they would all probably take a month to implement im glad to see this mod devloping in to actual more interiors instead of just one more interior

[formal turret]

Oohhh another sewer let's gooooo

And sheesh didn't see the new tile but excited for it!

[patent shore]

A four handed scrap would actually be so cool though

[muted niche]

Hello, correct me if I am wrong, but was there not an issue with the map in where the bracken would cause fps drops sometimes?

I just wish for confirmation

[proper moon]

i dunno about that but do u have any pathfindinglagfix mod ? might help a lil bit ?

[muted niche]

I do, I currently tying to keep my game lag at a minimum thats all

That is why I am asking

[drifting cloud]

Saw a rat in Masa's house today

Couldnt help but think about the rats here

Rats man when

[nimble patrol]

i have put in bugs list but it is not consistant

👍

i have tested alot but i only happens with certain seeds like 1 out of 10 times i have seen it

working on bug and config stuff

[simple yoke]

@nimble patrol

Found some weird rat render inconsistencies. As well as the earlier reported scrap being unscanable on the ground, it seems it is on shelves as well.

[acoustic cove]

@nimble patrol how come the rats don't have a bestiary?

[simple yoke]

The rat becomes a ghost sometimes when I look at it. 😛

[fleet cypress]

prolly work in progress

[bleak chasm]

the bunker scraps seem to not have spaces in their names, and also rarely spawn even outside of bunker

[fleet cypress]

thats intended

it was like voted for

[fleet cypress]

sounds like the mechanic scp secret lab has

[bleak chasm]

which part? the lack of spaces or spawning outside bunker?

[fleet cypress]

the spawning outside bunker is less on other interiors

since people complained there was to many bunker items everywhere

[nimble patrol]

@simple yoke @acoustic cove ye thanks for letting me know I have that already in stuff to update 🙂

This is rough draft

For bestiary log

[drifting cloud]

The expanded rat lore

[bright lark]

I require the word "crazy" to be put in there.

Anywhere in the log. >:p

(I don't actually, but it'd be a reference)

[nimble patrol]

Gonna also have paper logs for the different interiors too.

So I will be doing creatures and
Mechanical like the systems in place or how to handle the creatures.

Skiz Co-Dev will do info about the interior like the sewer and bunker
Possible other docs

Similar to the manual clip board but maybe like a journal book or old paper to fit the style of the interior

[drifting cloud]

Major

Will you be adding the 'Rats Man' in the future? 👀

[waxen spoke]

Will there be config or compatibility for rats to spawn in other interiors? Including modded?

[nimble patrol]

The rats will also be a separate mod for other places that want to use it

[bright lark]

Is crazy gonna be added to the bestiary log

It's extremely important. Game-breaking even (/s)

[nimble patrol]

will see

[plush bear]

major can you explain interior size to me?

Do interiors themselves keep a 1x tile count? and thye cannot go below it?

[analog drift]

interior size isn't 1:1 with tile count. tile count isn't really exposed to users at all

[nimble patrol]

Yes from me experimenting with it. It is a combination of stuff

• Dungeon Length mine is 7 - 11
• Dungeon Multiplier mine is 1

Archetypes

• Branch Count mine is 5-6
• Branch Depth mine is 4-5
  With what I have been doing in editor

And if adds them like this

• Getting dungeon length of 7
  Plus
• Branch Count is 5
• Branch Depth is 4
• Multiplier is 1

7 + (5x4)x1
27 is what min is

But you can also inject tiles
Which adds a plus 1
To total

[plush bear]

Hmmm, seems pretty in-depth

I was attempting to see if I could add method to my mod that hard limits the sizes, LLL merely clamps one factor of the multiplier but it appears that different interiors set up many layers to how it is calculated

27 min as in 1x? or 27 min as in 0.01x?

[nimble patrol]

Yeah which is why I have hard time to get correct size

Yes 27 tiles with a 1x multiplier

And it you do like march moon which is a 1.3 x multiplier it adds to the total

March moon would be
7+(5×4)x1.3 = 33

So I think what I should have done from the start is make the smallest minimum size then let moons handle the multiplier

But it is a lesson to learn lol

[plush bear]

yeah, I'm probably going to add a feature that ties the moon multiplier to the scrap, just a shame that when I have a bunch of interiors it ends up being that this interior is 4 times as many tiles as another which just makes its inconvenient to get scrap out of

[nimble patrol]

Yes but another thing is the actual size of rooms is different from tile sets
And also each flow can have multiple archetypes
Like you can have multiple 5 branch count and branch depth
So it would be difficult to balance all maps

[plush bear]

ic... so larger rooms are "more tiles"

[nimble patrol]

No larger rooms are still one tile but longer to explore for walk end to end

Like the one room from factory with the slide and pit is one tile

It equals about 6 of the small tiles

From factory

In size

The maze is also its own archetype in the factory

[plush bear]

so different archetypes has their own set tile counts?

[nimble patrol]

Yes

Maze I think is 7 -12
But the room tile size is small

[plush bear]

yes

so yeah tile counts have ratios then so I should only consider multipliers, 1x is different per interiors and I don't believe I could make a formula that can make that consistenet hm

[nimble patrol]

It is alot of min and max values lol

[plush bear]

yeah

from my understanding LLL can allow you to theoretically limit the total multiplier? I'm unsure there are a lot of variables

[nimble patrol]

Yes the multiplier can limit

Can reduce to

[plush bear]

but there is how many multipliers?

the LLL one is the same as the one in say your config?

because I am unsure if that still respects the moon multiplier or if it overwrites it

[nimble patrol]

7 + 5x4 x 0.8 =23

If you change multiplier it can lower overall tiles

[plush bear]

7, 5, and 4 are in Dungen and 0.8 is then the only multiplier?

[nimble patrol]

Yep

[plush bear]

h

so if I have it clamped at 0.5 multiplier then experimentation and titan have the same size multiplier?

[nimble patrol]

The moons have there own multiplier that they set

Hmm

I can test I have only tested with experimentation with the LLL multiplier

I know titan is 2.25

[plush bear]

Because from my understanding the clamp limits the moon one rather than the objective one?

[nimble patrol]

Oh gotcha

[plush bear]

there is a SelectableLevel and RoundManager multiplier afaik

[nimble patrol]

Yeah lol so many multipliers

[plush bear]

selectablelevel is moon specific, roundmanager is interior specific? unless i have it the other way around, I talked with batby

[nimble patrol]

Oh I haven't messed with the round manager so I don't know that one

[plush bear]

If the clamp is 0.5 and the moon multiplier is 0.5 then do you think this would be
7 + 5x4 * (0.25) = 12?

or would it just be 0.5 since they are one in the same

[nimble patrol]

Yeah i think 0.5 would be the right one

[plush bear]

damn 😔

[nimble patrol]

Ok just tested with the 0.5 it does Lower it on titan but titan then adds to it
7+5x4x0.5x2.25 =29

So I think I know what I should shoot for with mine try and find max tile size

Then work downward

[plush bear]

hmmmmmm so the moon multiplier is considered?

and also would you consider there to be a mininum of max multiplier? could I have it be a 0.01 multiplier? could I have it be a 1000 multiplier?

like could I have a moon that has just the entrace room or will it shid?

[nimble patrol]

it might break according to the length if it is 7 -11 It needs a min of 7 so it may not generate

will just get stuck at seed screen

[plush bear]

hmm

I'll test it, I've been able to get tens of thousands of scrap to generate before so maybe I'll just unbreak stuff again through witchcraft

[nimble patrol]

lol

[plush bear]

major do you think there is any way to directly alter the tile counts even with multiple mods? if yours is 7 + (5x4) = 27 but then the multiplier is applied, is there any way I can access the formula and have that be configurable? I'm just trying to see if I can create a mod that has the ability to standarize interior sizes between on another as most are faaar larger then what you would expect with vanilla interiors

Because you can of course change the multiplier but I'm looking for a way to alter the base amount

[plush bear]

mista major where did you get the tile assets from? was it free?

[fleet cypress]

from what i remember he said it came from a pack of unity or from vrchat i think

[plush bear]

yoinking assets from vrchat is nutty

ok yeah thank god for the unity store, I have at least now found really good materials

[fleet cypress]

i remember he took some assets from sketchfab or whatever it was called, it sometime has some free stuff in there

[plush bear]

I think that was probably items?

[fleet cypress]

items and scenery

[plush bear]

oh?

[fleet cypress]

like theres uniforms in the sand thats from sketchfab i believe

[terse acorn]

is there any way to force the bunker's default scrap to stop spawning? i've set up custom scrap for each moon but when Bunker spawns, a bunch of the bunker specific scrap spawns anyway and highly inflates the scrap total for the map

I don't necessarily want to remove the scrap itself since I use the scrap elsewhere but I wanted to remove the extra spawns that bunker creates

[heady rune]

maybe its in the lethal level loader thingy

[nimble patrol]

It was called synty assets
https://syntystore.com/

[nimble patrol]

Yes I am working on config for army type scrap and other things
Adding 2 new tiles and bunch more config options

Gonna add interactive crates to open
And other Tweeks like
Dungeon size modifiers

Sorry for being slow on updates
Been 2 weeks since last update

[plush bear]

Thank you

[nimble patrol]

But friend working on sewer set hot sick so I am just making Tweeks and improvements

[plush bear]

Did you just use premade assets from the military pack for the bunker or did you somehow find whole rooms?

[nimble patrol]

Yes premade assets yes

For the rooms we made from premade stuff and design them our self

[plush bear]

I see

[nimble patrol]

armory / shooting range

[plush bear]

so one of you made that

[nimble patrol]

yes

[plush bear]

Ok, I just suck at using blender and don’t really know how to make the room itself

[nimble patrol]

individual parts and put together by moving them

pre made assets are fine

[plush bear]

I’m really really bad at starting simple so the first interior I want to do is very organic and smooth looking

[nimble patrol]

since most game devs don't do everything from scratch
but you can just takes longer

yes i getcha

bunker would have taken till march or april before first release

kind of like other interiors people i helped with

[plush bear]

Yeah, I can more or less just steal the room designs from my friends Minecraft mod but I will need to rebuilt it to not be blocky

[nimble patrol]

ye exactly

[plush bear]

I found a good texture pack for like $7 but I would still need to make the rooms

The images is reference for the architectural style

[nimble patrol]

Ah gotcha like the look 👍

[plush bear]

Im going to try to keep the ground like mostly flat for nav meshes

[stable minnow]

Reminds me of Scorn

[wheat osprey]

Is the gramophone from the base game or more interiors?

We got some weird issues with it on the bunker interior and I wasn't sure if it was one of the custom scrap added by it

[plush bear]

nuh uh different artist that is Beksinski

[nimble patrol]

The gramophone that you order in the ship is from base game the rusted low poly one is from the bunker items

[wheat osprey]

Yep, that's the one then. It was weirdly shimmery (?), constantly popping in and out of existance

[wheat osprey]

I got a vid, lemme link it

[nimble patrol]

hmm it shouldn't do that ?

i tested a bunch had no issues

[wheat osprey]

I thought of cull factory, but it doesn't cull items AFAIK, so idk what could be causing this

[nimble patrol]

Cull factory Culls everything tho
Even players have culling in standard lethal

I don't have nothing culling the gramophone

So that is a strange issue

@wheat osprey thanks for the report will test

[hot zodiac]

That's not the formula. For every tile on the main path, it "tries" to insert x amount of branches with y length. Every single tile. So the formula is closer to 7 x 5 x 4 x map size * 1.5 = 210 tiles.

[hot zodiac]

Of course it will never reach 210 tiles even at it's minimum, since DunGen will not care if the branch paths are complete. So let's assume every branch is only 25% as efficient. 7 x 5 x 4 x map size x 1.5 x 25% = 52 tiles

This is the minimum numbers as well on Experimentation

Something you may want to try is, using the lines section in the DungeonFlow, give the first 0.3 length the high branch count and length you listed above, and the later 0.7 length much smaller branch count and length.

Well actually all that is assuming that you were using local branch. Jumped the gun there my bad. Are you using local or global branches? @nimble patrol

[nimble patrol]

Local branch

[hot zodiac]

Then the formula I said above is accurate

[nimble patrol]

Ye but what you said before is interesting haven't messed with global before

[hot zodiac]

Global can help you limit the branch count (thus the map size). But I don't know if that increases as the map size increases. I can look at it real quick

[nimble patrol]

Oh yeah for sure I gotta give it a test too

[hot zodiac]

Ya only the main path is affected by the moon/dungeon size.

Global branches can help you limit, but it won't increase as the map gets bigger. If that works for work then it works for you but making sure you know.

[nimble patrol]

I will stick to the local I think since that way I can have multiple archetypes and sections of the bunker

[hot zodiac]

Fosho good luck. I know we all have it rough

[fleet cypress]

hey major love your new target range work, it looks amazing!

if there was variants of these targets, maybe there was a few who have bullet holes

[nimble patrol]

Ye I am gonna have some variation working on getting a bullet texture that I can randomize

Have plans for more FX to add more stuff to tiles

[fleet cypress]

very nice!

[bleak chasm]

whenever i set BunkerLengthOverride to 1, the game crashes whenever the bunker generates

[nimble patrol]

Yes I found that out the other day too so only adjusting the LLL stuff works at the moment

[bleak chasm]

so it goes

[nimble patrol]

@bleak chasm setting the scaler to lower makes it less smaller

In LLL config that works

[bleak chasm]

so if i set the scaler to 2, it'd be half as big?

[nimble patrol]

No 2 times

0 does nothing

[bleak chasm]

do you mean makes it less big?

[nimble patrol]

0.5 is half

[bleak chasm]

rather confusing

[nimble patrol]

It will make it half the exploration
Like
80 rooms is normal with scaler set to 1
40 rooms is half with with scaler set to 0.5
160 rooms is double with scaler set to 2

I am fixing the standard amount to be less
Overall
Like 40 to 60 rooms for starting moons like assurance experimentation vow

Cause I didn't understand all the math when making the first upload lol

And why I got varying sizes outside testing in unity

[nimble patrol]

current amount of tiles

with player reference for scale

2 of these aren't in yet and aren't complete

[nimble patrol]

comparing sizes to standard lethal tiling yes our are much bigger

so i think i understand why the pacing exploration is off even better now

[bleak chasm]

something odd i've noticed, nothing in the bunker seems to use the game's shader

also, the bunker is SEVERELY lacking in loot

[plush bear]

Oh that makes more sense? So the bunker contains 3 archetypes?

[nimble patrol]

which version are you on it is using the HDRP shader same as game is just textures are low poly and not high res with triplanner to add detail
🤔

i updated textures and loot in 2.5.0

[bleak chasm]

most recent version, 2.5.0

[bleak chasm]

really doesn't feel like it

[nimble patrol]

@bleak chasm yes it is same shader just flat textures with a surface noise so it is not super detailed

not much i can do to enhance detail other then making new models or adding textures on top

it is same shader but different textures

is the big difference

hope this helps understand

it is also a pre made asset pack so doing own models would take till another 2 months to get completed

wish is could be faster

took zeekers more then a year and a half to get lethal company where it is

[thin coral]

Lol, having a vision takes time sometimes, i don't blame him

[nimble patrol]

Thanks to everyone for checking out the mod and giving feedback. I am definitely improving with the code and design going forward

❤️

[fleet cypress]

thats great to hear

[dusky karma]

My favorite interior still

[nimble patrol]

can add more stuff with the skeletons and bodys

😂

dead drunk

gonna see what i can make with them and add randomly

will see if i can find ones with cloths

[glacial maple]

might not be something you wanna do, but an indiana jones thing where i still some gold drip from a skeleton then like the room opens to a pit of spikes or smtyh could be cool

[vale hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-thinking-meme-hmm-finger-on-mouth-gif-5982947770194854266

[versed marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-issues-gif-13031152103567454559

[dusky karma]

https://tenor.com/view/calaca-insana-skull-insane-skull-jijijija-jijija-gif-4512035026220832473

[serene yacht]

any idea why desync is happening?

people will follow me in main entrance and fall to there doom because no map, or have regular interior

[humble narwhal]

too vague to tell from a description, a log & modlist may help narrow things down

[fleet cypress]

could place them at very dark areas lmao and then make em in a wave pose

[nimble patrol]

Ye they are gonna be random and won't appear all the time

[fleet cypress]

spooky

[jade sable]

@nimble patrol am i able to set "all" in the config instead of "list"?

[nimble patrol]

Currently all doesn't work next update should be better
List is only option

Experimentation,Assurance,Vow,Offense,March,Rend,Dine,Titan

[jade sable]

am i able to put all/vanilla/modded in the list atleast?

oh alright

[nimble patrol]

That is not set up only list

Copy the moons I put then adjust the slider for rarity

[jade sable]

👍

[nimble patrol]

Wish I didn't have to work
so I can finish the updates faster

[jade sable]

🫡

[nimble patrol]

Yes working on updating and fixing bestiary for rats
Thanks for the report 👍

I know it breaks it currently

[winged coral]

Rats chewed through the terminal wiring and messed up the hard drive

[nimble patrol]

LOL

😂

[winged coral]

It's like an SCP cognitohazard?

Scanning the rats causes rat-like activity to manifest around you

Even when there are no rats

[still quarry]

ah ok sorry

[nimble patrol]

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   <-(..~)    (   |_o|~-~'~_.~
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               _   
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Want to have this on the text log file lol

[pallid bear]

Those images looks like concept arts for game Scorn

[plush bear]

No, they are concept art for alien

[pallid bear]

Perhaps

Tho, very similar style

[bright lark]

IT WAS THE RATS???

Holy shit this entire time I thought immortal snail broke it

[plush bear]

I feel Giger's art is more mechanical, Beksinski's is a bit fleshier and more abstract

Giger's art also has an odd sexual tone to it

Which is probably why the xeno's head is phallic and the facehugger does its thing

[vale hearth]

It will Fit well with the Xenomorph mod in the works 👀

[plush bear]

the hm?

[pallid bear]

@plush bear are you Polish? 🇵🇱

[plush bear]

Like 1%

[pallid bear]

darn

[dense zenith]

what should i put here for bunker to spawn on all moons?

[versed marsh]

All moon names.

The description says what you need to do.

[dense zenith]

was hoping someone would say "all" would work like it does on every other interior

[versed marsh]

#1196710290457382953 message

[nimble patrol]

I should have that fixed next update

[nimble patrol]

testing of new tiles and skeleton props

real close to update just need to fix code for rats and adjust the tiles a little more
and fix the config

they died playing go fish 🙂

Upcoming Update Estimated (March 2nd - 5th)

• Rats improved
• Log for Rats and bug fix
• Config to turn off rats
• Config for moons improved
• Scrap Adjusted
• Scrap can be found by opening crates
• New Tiles and Interactables
• Skeletons and behaviours
• New Scrap Items
• Performance Fixes

Bugs being Fixed

• Rat Logs
• FPS drop
• AI pathing

Thanks for being patient

will do a post when it drops

[winged coral]

TY

[dusky karma]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-25720883

[bleak chasm]

will the stupidly big size and lack of scrap be fixed

i can't get it to be a decent size even using the LLL config

[solar topaz]

So does new tilies include sewers

[nimble patrol]

Yes will be fixed

[nimble patrol]

we are doing more finishing touches before they are put out doing best to get it done
Since a friend working on tiles got sick but doing best to get what I can done

[waxen spoke]

As a finishing touch do you think you will implement any terminal doors or parkour rooms? To keep with the challenges of the vanilla facility level.

[nimble patrol]

Ye I thought about adding unique stuff even for the bunker like a PA system. special bulkhead doors. And like collapsible hallways. But got shelved till we get current bugs and issues fixed I definitely want to continue small updates here and there

Only main limiter is me just learning how to code and implementation

[waxen spoke]

Hell yeah! I'm surprised to hear such crazy feature ideas, I thought you guys were mostly focusing on patching now since your moving on to that indie game project.

[nimble patrol]

That is the ultimate goal but I didn't say we will stop forever on this.

[kind stump]

Can't wait for this update, the new tile looks fantastic! 🤩

[waxen spoke]

Small idea, will you ever add a table with skeletons playing cards?

[nimble patrol]

It's in the works lol

[solar topaz]

Bet hope he feels better’s

[simple yoke]

@nimble patrol

@hot zodiac The developer of Scarlet Devil Mansion has interesting config options that adjust dungeon size and difficulty based on lobby size. This could be a good solution for your current scrap distribution and map size reduction concerns.

I think this would also be a good idea for @lyric carbon as well. 😄

[hot zodiac]

@nimble patrol i do, the code wouldnt be the worst thing in the world to implement if you are interested, but I do admit that it would be annoying at first

[nimble patrol]

I will give it a look

[hot zodiac]

Though it wouldn't inheritly fix the scrap distrubution problem, it would only help map size problems for different parties

[nimble patrol]

Will have to check after work

Oh gotcha

[hot zodiac]

Ill dm you the code, but it is a little spicy

[nimble patrol]

Yeah I would imagine it would be a lot of setup lol👍

[simple yoke]

This is sick as hell btw

[lyric carbon]

I'm pretty happy with the current size of the mental hospital but thank you!!

[serene yacht]

It's fucking huge, rough on solo or even duo

[lyric carbon]

I dont want to make this thread about the Mental Hospital, if you want to discuss this please let me know on my thread or DMs when was the last time you played it and if possible send me logs after visiting it

[serene yacht]

Yesterday I'll see ya over there

[chilly dew]

Okay good. Phew

Aesthetically it does the job but goddamn it's massive, scraps (and exists) are so hard to find and vanilla game stamina just doesn't cut it

[analog drift]

Also while I can't implement it right away I wouldn't mind looking at this

[drifting cloud]

ICBM chamber

omg actually.. Masa might be cooking with that.

What if the Bunker had like a ICBM planet buster chamber that if activated could unlock access to a moon? 🤔

(In lore the moon couldve been protected by a shield or perhaps the moon was so dangerous that it had to get mega nuked before scavenging)

And maybe for the non extra moon enjoyers, they could well, experience nice view of planetary kaboom (and maybe get like a scrap reward or just immediate progress on the quota)

[dusky karma]

I need to make the bunker smaller

but setting the scale to 1 crashes

and the scale to 1.25 is still massive on offense

Nvm Im fucking tweakin

[dusky karma]

Nvm im not tweakin

Weirdly enough

I went to go change this setting

changed it to 1.25

launched the game

tested the size

felt no difference

exited the game,

checked config

it reverted to -1

[minor pagoda]

you used decimals

I think you cant do that

[winged coral]

Yeah integers don't accept decimals

[dusky karma]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-gif-18854081

but

but

sigh

Ill try 1 again

Is this a skill issue or can any of you set size to 1 and not crash

Nvm im stupid

I thought the multipliers were based on the -1 scale but i was way off

2 is way too small

[versed marsh]

It's not a multiplier. It's an override.

[nimble patrol]

Working on update It can get done fast enough

[nimble patrol]

Ye working on that future coming update

[dusky swallow]

Idk if this is already a known issue or if there is a solution but uh..
https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/1Zq3xe_D9R3cb1/d1337y1CB1kD?invite=cr-MSxlUGgsMTkxNzQ4NTczLA

[dusky karma]

had this issue when i fucked with bunker size

[dusky swallow]

Instantly fixed when put back to -1

[dusky karma]

yea

If you change it to anything above 1 it should be fine

because anything from 0-1 is actually breaking the map

[dusky swallow]

Gotta admit though the map is making my computer chug right now

[pallid bear]

I love ass moon

[junior zodiac]

Can I change it to 1.00001?

[sleek sierra]

Had an issue; slime wasn't getting locked behind door, and also my framerate was dropping massively when encountering a spore lizard for some reason

I wanna see if I can replicate, can anyone recommend a good cheat mod to spawn stuff? GameMaster seems to cause a lot of issues

[bleak chasm]

dancetools

[dusky karma]

cant do decimals

[nimble patrol]

Yes I am fixing the issues currently taking a while to do update since want little bugs as possible for next patch

also thanks everyone for the 1 million downloads looking to make improvements and finishing this mod so it looks great

[fast cipher]

is "all" not accepted in BunkerMoons = ?

[tacit summit]

materials fighting

[nimble patrol]

It is not at the moment I am doing a big update that I am working on for that.
currently list is only working option

[waxen spoke]

@nimble patrol
Mr major I have an unusual question about interior mods, is it possible for interior mods to have configs that change the texture used on specific assets?
For example enable the config and a poster will have a different appearance, sort of like a lore friendly config.

[nimble patrol]

Yes you can have it change material I am pretty sure haven't tested myself

[lone mango]

I'm surprised this wasn't added already - but do you think you could add a config option for army themed scrap to only spawn on bunker interiors?

[simple cipher]

is that not how it is atm?

[lone mango]

It might be, if so then it doesn't show via LethalConfig

[simple cipher]

no, i mean like, army scrap only spawns in the bunker

if that's not the case already then it's just extremely rare on other interiors or a mod conflict because i don't remember ever seeing that. major would be able to give a more definitive answer

[lone mango]

Oh nono, I've gotten army scrap on every interior afaik

Or at least the vanilla interiors

[nimble patrol]

yes it mainly in the bunker but it is like 0.1% for others

i am tweeking the config i have been working on making it a awesome update i feel bad it has almost taken a month tho

i am pretty sure i made it 1% for other places

but i was gonna only be bunker initially

[candid socket]

Seems like that for me

[nimble patrol]

yes am adding that too

[small estuary]

Yeah I’ve been meaning to request that for a while now lol

[drifting cloud]

The Rats Man

[fleet cypress]

i wondered can rats damage you?

[proper moon]

was planned no

when the big rat comes

[nimble patrol]

Ye still working on the rats and everything but currently the rats don't damage you and can't be damaged

[fleet cypress]

alrighty!

[languid raptor]

is there an option to disable rats?

[solar topaz]

hows progress been a while since an update

[thorn jewel]

Why are scraps so rare in the bunker interior?

I always only find like 5 scrap total in the entire day when I'm in the bunker

[proper moon]

its beeg thats why,

i deal with it by raising the scraps on said moons with bunker interior

[versed marsh]

Wide open spaces do be like that.

[nimble patrol]

they aren't rare just the bunker is massive you can't get all the loot sometimes but next update i am working on should fix that issue

[nimble patrol]

yes i am working on a option too i am fixing lots of stuff and adding new stuff for next update sorry for the update taking a while

[nimble patrol]

progress is going well rats are looking nice and the new tile set and features are going well

[solar topaz]

bet

[candid socket]

Rat King when?

[small estuary]

[tribal hearth]

I would do this but I don’t make it guaranteed

So it would buff others

[naive carbon]

are there any known compatibility issues?

[nimble patrol]

the rats can form a pack and can look at and interact with the player also will be able to attack back if aggro and help if given cheese to find scrap and maybe more

[patent shore]

Beautiful

[tacit summit]

Might I suggest instead of a snap back to original position, have some some of ease back to it

[nimble patrol]

yes i am tweeking it this is the first iteration

before the head would collapse back into the body

[tacit summit]

Got it

[vast crypt]

Bonk

[tacit summit]

YOU

YOU HAVE ART IN YOUR NAME

[vast crypt]

Yes

[tacit summit]

https://tenor.com/view/toes-goblin-toe-gobblin-pikablu-running-gif-14044570

I have a question

[vast crypt]

Sure

[tacit summit]

Are you good at art?

[vast crypt]

Not particularly. I did pixel art for a MC resourcepack for a while which was ok but I'm not a great artist in the traditional sense.

The name is more of a play on LucasArts the now defunct game company

[tacit summit]

Ah okie dokie

[vast crypt]

Gonna begin trying out my texturing muscles again. As i try to make my own custom interior soon

[tacit summit]

Lemme know when you get that working

[candid socket]

First time was a joke, but now I think it's actually doable. Rat king when? lol

[tacit summit]

I have a server for interior mod devs

[vast crypt]

That might be helpful. Trying to follow the tutorial by Major_And_Skiz when i realized recently there is a better way to rip DunGen I believe

[candid socket]

Would you mind shooting me an invite? I might be working on an interior in the near future

[nimble patrol]

not trying to set a date but will ping when done

[candid socket]

My group pleasantly awaits being disgusted lol

[tacit summit]

Only once it's actually in development in unity

Once you get dungen working to be specific

[fleet sail]

was shot through a wall by a turret, might want to look into that

sadly don't have any other information to give, sorry

other than it being in the bunker, mb

[nimble patrol]

👍

[fleet sail]

oh yeah another one as well that i just remembered, masked enemies that spawned via vents seemed to be stuck in front of them

was using MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork if that matters

wait this wasnt from your mod, i was thinking of the sewers

that's scoopy's, heh

[nimble patrol]

yeah no worries thanks for the reports

[latent hollow]

why is it called more interiors when theres only one?

[minor pagoda]

because there will eventually be more

[latent hollow]

are they working on any others rn?

or have specific plans for themes?

[minor pagoda]

idk what they are doing

but they made some progress on a sewer interior

[latent hollow]

any screenshots?

[minor pagoda]

yeah but I dont have em

[latent hollow]

do you know where they're at?

[minor pagoda]

here

but you'd have to scroll up alot

[minor pagoda]

@latent hollow

[stable isle]

i like your version a lot

that looks super fun

[violet mica]

oh is the bestiary fixed? (like does it affect it)

oh wait it's still WIP

[nimble patrol]

ye beastiary still bugged

working on improving it

[drifting cloud]

Darn rats stealing the logs

[winged vine]

Hi! Sorry to bother

How does the rarity work? if I get it right 300 is 50% right?

[humble narwhal]

Rarity is relative to whatever other dungeons and rarities are present

[winged vine]

What you mean?

[thorn jewel]

Relative to what the total is

[humble narwhal]

There really needs to be an explainer on how weighted random works somewhere

[thin coral]

Think about it like a raffle, the more raffle tickets the higher the chance, but the more participants the more spread out the raffle tickets

[winged vine]

I tried looking it up before asking but I couldnt really find it

[thin coral]

What you're essentially doing is giving the interior more raffle tickets

So it increases the chances of it being picked or winning

[winged vine]

Right.. how do I know the current amount of tickets already in the pool taken by other maps?

[thin coral]

But you're not guaranteeing or giving it a straight %, you're just giving it more tickets

Uh

Dunno tbh

[winged vine]

Darn

[thin coral]

Usually people configure all their moons at once to know that

[humble narwhal]

Usually it's 300 for the "default" dungeon and like 10-20 for the secondary dungeon

Not exact though

Like Titan has 300 for facility, 70 for mansion iirc

[simple cipher]

type "simulate <moon name>"
in the LLL config there's an option to change the simulate command to show the weight for every interior on a specific moon

[winged vine]

I'll try that

[nimble patrol]

Oh just saw this yeah it works like tickets system i think only way to know is either simulate or look at console when moon is loading

300 is default for facilty so the adding another interior with 300 will make it 50%

[fresh copper]

i saw the rolling giant just clipping through closed bunker doors without opening it. is that an issue on ur end or on their end?

[nimble patrol]

it is a possible syncing issue i have that as know issue written down

cause the door should prevent enemys from clipping thru with out opening it first

but i haven't messed with rolling giant to know 🤔

[solar topaz]

think of it as a pie chart actually
use this tool it really helps

https://www.meta-chart.com/pie

[hasty crow]

no think of it as a weighted chance

[solar topaz]

Nah the pie chart method is elite

one lf the founding fathers of lethal company interiors told me to think of it like that

(scoopy)

[simple yoke]

@nimble patrol

A couple requests.

Would it be possible to register your rats as enemies that can be used on other levels? I would love to use Lethal Quantities to add rats to other thematic moons.

Also since you have some of the Tunnel interiors already made for Bunker. Would you be able to make a seperate mineshaft/excavation interior with minecarts, pickaxes, shovels, smelters, forges, anvils, gunpowder...... Etc

I think this interior would fit a lot of maps such as Ganimedes, Sierra, Atlas Abyss... Etc

[nimble patrol]

ye that could be possible i am finishing up the AI for the bunker map and other updates but ye that is the plan to also make the rats there own enemy mod

oh like a mine shaft interior that could be possible

[simple yoke]

Yes please!

[simple yoke]

Apparently, someone beat us to it. haha

I did not know this existed.

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1216035483185053797

@patent shore Keeping me informed. 😛

[elfin forge]

@nimble patrol can you make a elevator interior :O

[dusky karma]

you mean like the office?

[elfin forge]

Like LC_Office yeah

[runic wren]

Maybe make a hotel interior that would be really

[nimble patrol]

had idea for hotel like interior

but not huge fan for elevators cool idea

[fresh copper]

ikea interior based on that one scp

[elfin forge]

:(

[fresh copper]

turn that frown upside down

[plush bear]

I mean if your artist is down for a challenge, I don't believe anyone has done work for a fleshy/living interior

[elfin forge]

):<

[nimble patrol]

[nimble patrol]

it is mainly because it is not fast enough for the game time verus ladder and stairs

[elfin forge]

idc, coolness

[nimble patrol]

yeah it is cool i will admit the office does it decent

[elfin forge]

so you'll make one :>

[nimble patrol]

it will be considered for one

[elfin forge]

maybe stairs and a elevator for the hotel one so the elevator will help with big items and would only work with apparatus in

[patent shore]

I thought someone was working on a dependency mod that'd let you add elevators to interiors

[elfin forge]

Where

[green urchin]

Ive tried different combinations to make Bunker only spawn on Outpost31. However it hasnt spawned there yet, while it will randomly spawn on Aquatis despite aquatis not being on the list.

[tacit summit]

Check to see if there is another config effecting it

[ebon carbon]

I was thinking of making Hotel Cortez from AHS, but it seemed almost like a reskin of the mansion

[thick rampart]

what about the Overlook from the Shining?

[simple yoke]

Variety is great

[ebon carbon]

I agree, but the amount of time it would take to make an experience that basically already exists didn't seem worth it

I've hardly had time to touch this game lately

[lone mango]

Maybe the hotel from The Upturned? 👀

[plush bear]

isn't major and skiz doing the sewer/maintenance tunnel first anyway?

[humble sapphire]

Oh a liminal hotel interior could be cool

[stable isle]

oooooo coolcool

[nimble patrol]

Will be working on update and patch with the up coming V50 update coming soon

[analog drift]

@nimble patrol have you seen whats in it

[nimble patrol]

No i haven't yet i need to take a look

[analog drift]

you in particular will prob be happy

[nimble patrol]

oh nice

looking forward to checking it out

[nimble patrol]

I like what I seen in the beta looks cool

[simple yoke]

@nimble patrol
Alright... This is a MAJOR oversight! How does this Bunker not have any pins!!! I am shoook! Shoook I SAY!

[nimble patrol]

Oh thanks 👍

LOL

Oh I also saw the interior category on thunderstore I will add it next upcoming update

[solar topaz]

Next update when man been so long 😭 my moon pairs so well with the interior too

[nimble patrol]

i am thinking sometime this month

[solar topaz]

I hope 🙏love your work

[nimble patrol]

ah thanks so much i am just doing some cool updates to come

[solar topaz]

Is true sewers coming in the next update

?

[nimble patrol]

will check on that my friend is the one doing stuff on that

[simple yoke]

@nimble patrol

What is the bunker length set to by default?

[nimble patrol]

-1

If you want to adjust overall how big the bunker gets you have to change a setting in LLL config

The dungeon scaler

But I am fixing the bunker with next update will have better generation

[dusky karma]

but like

what is -1 equal to

Because 3 is a smaller size bunker than -1

in my testing

[nimble patrol]

Hmm it shouldn't work like that but I am fixing it

🤔

[tribal hearth]

it doesnt generate for some reason for me

ok now it did lmao

joethumbsup