Scarlet Devil Mansion v2.2（紅魔館）

[rare needle]

Also I removed DimmingFlashlights from my list cus I noticed it causes an issue where once the color changed flashlights go dull they don't become bright again when charging them lol

[tranquil frigate]

Oh is that a bug only with my colored flashlights or flashlights in general?

I checked their code, it really looks like they messed up the code with literally one symbol

[rare needle]

Yeah it seems to only mess with the colored ones, I can do without it tbh I don't consider the mod a necessity 😆

[tranquil frigate]

Wtf how

[rare needle]

I have no idea

[tranquil frigate]

I'll take another look later. There's like no reason to why that should happen

You right it's not a necessity, but since that flashlight is just a regular flashlight, it should act like one

[rare needle]

Yeah, it could just be the change of color triggers it to bug somehow who knows

[silver hare]

Speaking of the colored flashlights, they seem to be mostly compatible with ReservedFlashlightSlot now, however when I first did the combination to create the new flashlight the sprite disappeared and the flashlight didn't function (though it did go into the slot). Once I dropped it onto the ground and picked it up again it worked as intended, but I ended up having a giant crystal show up in my hand rather than the flashlight which looked kind of funny. I also saw the crystal show up on the back of my playermodel, looking almost as if it's floating in the air - not sure if that's intended or some sort of bug. (Code: 018e4a5a-7ef2-6c6d-21dc-a697c16cfcdf) Other than all that, before you go on break, if you can put setting(s) in the config for the value of the demonic paintings and/or have it refer to FacilityMeltdown for the value before you leave, that'd be great. I know I mentioned it before but figured I'd say it again just in case since I don't think I saw it talked about recently.

[tranquil frigate]

ill be doing these in the next two days. which does include the stuff asked by @silver hare @rare needle @fluid pike

i will probably not add new content besides maybe a few library variants. this is mostly bug fixes and mod compability fixes

[fluid pike]

Thanks a lot

[rare needle]

I never ran into any of these bugs

👀

Are you using a model replacement mod? Probably another issue with ModelReplacementAPI from the sounds of it

If not then idk

[amber osprey]

Lighting situation is good now. 👍 My friend who always inverses in who used to hate the map approves now.

[tranquil frigate]

glad to hear

[rare needle]

Yeah I set it to the Bright preset and it's perfect

The only issue I have is trying to find the Fire Exit sometimes

Cus it's a solid black door and blends in it's so easy to miss it sometimes lol

[rare needle]

Have you considered trying to make the main entrance have double doors btw? ;o

I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to do but I could be wrong ☠️

[tranquil frigate]

the modeler that was helping me out is busy with life atm

so technically easy, but no one to do it

[rare needle]

Ahhhh well I hope you can manage it sometime soon 🙂

I still wonder what a friendly addition could be to make the fire exit easier to find, maybe a light above it or an outline around the door. I keep see a cool dark purple working for the atmosphere of the interior

[tranquil frigate]

making the fire exits look cooler and easier to spot, is on my list

i actually finished what i was supposed to do today, so ima try my hand on that

[rare needle]

I already love the dark smoke underneath it

[tranquil frigate]

and while i do that, i will also add the regular fire exit config, so my dungeon can be used with mimics

[rare needle]

Yeah, I personally removed Mimics after realizing it was unoptimized but I can see a lot of people loving the addition 🙂

It was the fact it was unoptimized paired with my friend group never dying to them anymore

😆

[cinder kettle]

why does this require cullfactory

[tranquil frigate]

my dungeon benefits too much from its speed up

[rare needle]

You should be using CullFactory anyways imo

[cinder kettle]

i do believe it breaks with certain interiors i use though

[rare needle]

You can exclude them, the interiors I use all work with it

[tranquil frigate]

from what i heard, most interiors have been fixed

[rare needle]

I use Office, this one, and Dantors though

[cinder kettle]

hm, alrighty

[tranquil frigate]

a fire exit config was supposed to be easy

but once again, zeekers throws some fun surprises

[opal wigeon]

?

[rare needle]

☠️

[tranquil frigate]

i had my fire exits all figured out

i even set it up so i can easily replace them

by zeeker's fire exits is just one simple prefab with a model, which network spawns the actual teleporting script

that's even more work wtf (for me)

[opal wigeon]

i thought i told you about this haha

[tranquil frigate]

that must have been so nonsensical that it went from one ear to the other

unbelievable, i thought

fiction, i thought

[opal wigeon]

its not that bad

[tranquil frigate]

well ya, but when you wanna support both, well i gotta go back from square 1 to do it right

(2 hours of life down the drain)

i will never forgive zeeks for this

[opal wigeon]

what are you trying to mess with here

[tranquil frigate]

my dungeon fire exits OR the vanilla fire exits (based on a config)

as I do not have the time to setup my doors correctly for mimics, so ill just give them the vanilla fire exits instead

[opal wigeon]

whats zeekers fire exits got to do with this

just use ur own bestie

[tranquil frigate]

for mod purposes, i just said

[rare needle]

She wants to add a config to use the Vanilla Fire Exit for compat with mimics

[opal wigeon]

i dont actually understand the problem here

[rare needle]

She's having trouble getting the config option to work

[opal wigeon]

im asking them 👍

[rare needle]

Ahhh okay okay ^^

[tranquil frigate]

My doors = good, but not mod compatible
Vanilla doors = shit, but mod compatible

Gamers = want both for funsies

[opal wigeon]

yeah but whats the problem in doing that

[tranquil frigate]

My doors = setup correctly
Vanilla doors = setup like garbage
I gotta setup my doors like garbage so it fits with vanilla

Which is 2 hours

I'm lowkey seeething

[opal wigeon]

what about them is setup like garbage

[tranquil frigate]

Half joke, half me being annoyed

Garbage? Well that's suggestive really

But I'm being inconvenienced, so it must be garbage

I don't make the rules here, but thems the facts

[rare needle]

Batby while you're here, how easy/hard would it be for Raphtalia to get the main entrance doors to be double doors? They said they were working with someone on it but they were busy

[opal wigeon]

like outside?

[tranquil frigate]

That's just a modeling issue

[rare needle]

The interior doors for the main entrance lol

[tranquil frigate]

Nothing related to Batby

[opal wigeon]

its as easy and making anything in the dungeon

got me worried for a sec aha

[rare needle]

I mean the one door you already have is perfect, my guess to make them double could be as simple as moving it over a little, duplicating it then flipping the other to be beside the current one

[tranquil frigate]

no offense but if it was easy, i would have done it by now

[rare needle]

Fair

I'm unknowledged here

lol

[opal wigeon]

😭

its not personal

[tranquil frigate]

i would have to stretch the doorway model, which will not look good. so i have to stretch it properly in a modeling software but thats not my expertise

[rare needle]

That is entirely understandable

I love the mansion the way it is dw dw ^^ you've already done so much to make it match the way the vanilla game looks lol

I'd even go as far as to say it's better than the Vanilla mansion

Lol

And the Mansion is the only real good vanilla interior

😆

I've just done so many Rend ruins for higher quotas that having a new interior on Rend really breathes so much life into it tbh

[silver hare]

Yeah, that's probably it then if normal models aren't having that issue.

[rare needle]

Btw with Knight Weight Steal Percentage at 0, what would you recommend setting Knight Weight to? I'm guessing 1 so it's in line with Coil Heads

I prefer it to be a seperate enemy rather than have a chance of replacing the coil

[surreal island]

I saw that Scarlet Devil Mansion now depends on CullFactory. Is that a hard dependency? If I disable it will it break?

[tranquil frigate]

you can disable it and it will still work

[surreal island]

Ok thanks for answering at lightning speed!

[tranquil frigate]

If you want the knight and coil heads to be separate entities, set the Steal Percentage to 0 and the Knight Base Weight to like 20

[granite meteor]

iirc it's for performance reasons (and maybe something about the unity light limit?), if you have a beefy enough build you should be fine

[surreal island]

Yah I was having issues with players not seeing each other and thought maybe I should disable CullFactory since it was the only "new" mod in my modpack. But it wasnt the problem so I'm keeping it haha. I have a beefy PC but the people I'm playing with might like the addition of CullFactory

[tranquil frigate]

i could be super wrong for saying this, but my issues with players not seeing each other seems to always be caused by modelreplacement

[surreal island]

It was a mix of the new LateCompany update and MoreCompany

[tranquil frigate]

ahh, i could see that as well

[surreal island]

I reverted LateCompany and it's fine

[tranquil frigate]

noice

[surreal island]

Just have to tell my friends not to press the big "Update All" button which they are so quick to press 😂

[tranquil frigate]

for real, the button is too enticing

[surreal island]

I always do it too haha

[timid surge]

please report any issues with interiors, I am not aware of any issues with fully released interiors as of now

[main flax]

is there a way to use the demonic painting as furniture and put it on the wall of the ship?

this image isnt real. i just edited it. but yeah i want to be able to do this. 😔

it should work like LethalSnap's polaroid pictures where u pin the picture item to walls

i guess this is the closest i can actually replicate it ingame. (taking a picture of the painting and pinning the picture to the wall 🤣)

[nimble delta]

OH

I just remembered

looking into here

@tranquil frigate It's gonna drive me nuts: ||is there a purpose to the ability of rotating pictures found throughout the interior? Purpose as in: it does more than just rotate for looks||

[main flax]

"The Portraits
Rotateable portaits can be found on tables and dressers. They serve no other purpose. "

thats what it says on the mod page

[tranquil frigate]

I imagined that you could rotate the portraits to mark your navigation path back to the entrance, but then I realized it's too hard to do that

So I want to later switch them to a regular grabbable object so you can grab them and drop them at will

[main flax]

any plans to make the painting pinnable on the wall? 🥹

[tranquil frigate]

No scrap value, just for fun

That one, I don't know yet how easy

[main flax]

ill take it and furnish the ship

maybe u can ask the LethalSnap creator how they did it with their polaroid pictures

[nimble delta]

I swear those didn't exist when i was in there prior.... ; w; ... is it new or did I just never look at a darn photograph

[tranquil frigate]

It's been there for a while at this point

[nimble delta]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thurston-waffles-meow-gif-15637283

[tranquil frigate]

But it's hidden under a drop-down button

[tranquil frigate]

Either A, I would have to figure out a way to place scrap items on surfaces (which is not the same as dropping) which adds a lot of room for issues

Or B, a furniture item appears after selling a painting once or something

Probably b since it's less literally to break shit

[main flax]

the polaroid pictures from that mod are actual scrap items, not furniture

not sure how they did it, but they manage to make it pinnable and they dont seem to fall through the ship

[tranquil frigate]

Ahh really, I'll look at it later then

It won't be part of this patch though, future stuff

[main flax]

understandable, since u do have to figure out how to make it work

lovely interior btw. a nice addition to my modpack. cant wait for my friends to explore it!

[tranquil frigate]

Less that, more that I'm being forced into a 2 week break so if I add code that breaks shit, then I can't fix it for a long while

[main flax]

ah i see

[tranquil frigate]

seeing as i have to redo the doorway model to fit the fire exit, ive been a bit busy

[dusty sparrow]

Cool

[balmy ibex]

praying for the door

[rare needle]

I love this ;o

I hope you keep the black smoke btw I really like that part

[tranquil frigate]

Released the final update for this month (more or less). See here or the changelog to see if your fix requested was fixed.

I wish I could have addressed them all, but time will not allow.

Any fixes from now to till next week will only be major gamebreaking bug fixes

And I require a 5 page, 12 roman font, double-spaced, 1 inch margin explanation directed to my friend, whose staying at my house for his vacation, to why I have to leave him to fix a bug.

Still report any bad bugs though. I added the vanilla fire exit config but I don't actually know it if works with mimics. I could not get the time to test it

[main flax]

i’ll try to do some testing later

[tranquil frigate]

I do what I want

[rare needle]

I look forward to seeing that new fire exit design you showcased it looked sick!!!!

[prisma swallow]

Hey there. Was just curious if there is a certain mod that conflicts with Scarlet Devil Manor since I can't seem to get it to appear on Rend, Dine or Titan even with 99999 values set for 99.9% chance.

[covert tartan]

when is the mod going to offically stopped be worked on

[timid surge]

the update is out, so I assume the break has already started

#1195583267546595389 message

[silver hare]

Thank you for implementing my requests, the update is fantastic overall. I hate to be a bit of a nitpick though, but you set the max painting value too low to match it with FacilityMeltdown, which was the intention. Its default value is 240 and max value 500, and you set the max to 200. Not a huge deal honestly, so if you want to wait on fixing it, that's fine, and thank you for your hard work!

[tranquil frigate]

There shouldn't be a mod conflict that bad. Sounds like a different issue entirely

[tranquil frigate]

The break has started, but the official end is yet to be determined

I theorized this month but maybe I can do one more month but nothing more than that

[tranquil frigate]

Whoops 💀 if I need to fix a major bug, I can add that fix

[prisma swallow]

I play with about 8 people and we have not figured out how to get the manor to show up when playing the game. Any ideas on what could cause it?

[tranquil frigate]

If you post the log, I can see to why

@prisma swallow

[rare needle]

Ayyy I just noticed I no longer get flipped when I enter the fire exits anymore with GI 😄

Love the new Fire Exit design so much 💜

[nimble delta]

It is very fucking impressive now that I just realized this - about to send a bug report-ish in here

your interior generated on a moon where another interior had 9999 weight on it

lol

anyways - "Potential Issue with Huntdown 'Bug Mafia' and SDM's interior?". Console spammed hard when that interior rolled with bug mafia. Gonna force that to happen to see if it consistently breaks.

during my next load, I'mma use the simulate command to show how rare that was-

Forced attempt 1 :Fully succeeded.

🤷‍♂️

The odds

"Enemy does not spawn naturally on this moon. Temporarily adding it to spawnable enemies"? ... Anyways. Your interior rolled a 0.19% chance when attempting to exist (Impressive), Huntdown rolled a 75% chance to make a mission, then made a weight-50 roll succeed, to have me notice this weird interaction.

But the odd part is - when forcing SDM to exist on Experimentation with this very mission... nothing wrong happens

Odd 🤷‍♂️

Whether or not you wanna use this info for some bug report or somethin' - up to ye. Didn't crash anything or cause anything other than error spamming.

I guess I should also state, this is v1.3.6 - not 1.3.7

[tranquil frigate]

Interesting, this is the first time that's it been reported. I'll take a look when I can

And also i gave away my computer to the post office so I actually can't do anything for the next week now

[nimble delta]

it's so specific, it doesn't warrant care unless you got nothing else to bugfix/do o ,o

seems to need the SCP exterior, SDM interior, and roll that huntdown mission

so rare, near impossible to happen for me lol

I still can't believe your SDM got rolled at a 0.19% chance

[tranquil frigate]

It happens

[nimble delta]

that's rare as hell

[tranquil frigate]

Luck of the heavens I would say

God said, get fucked, you gotta another bug to fix

And a bug mafia at that

[nimble delta]

lol

[tired swallow]

You mailed your computer away so you couldn’t use it? You’re really dedicated to enforcing this mandatory break 😂

[tranquil frigate]

Less of that, and more like I have to transfer so much important stuff across an ocean

Ain't got much of a choice

[tired swallow]

👀 ah yes, that makes so much more sense, also oof

[main flax]

btw whats a valid level name to write in mimics config?

[tranquil frigate]

Uhh, you would have to ask the mimics mod to what they use to refer the dungeon

And also, I don't remember what I named my dungeon under the hood

I can maybe ask one of the devs here to look at it for me. But first ask the mimics mod to how they refer dungeons

[main flax]

something about level flows when it comes to vanilla interiors and office interior

[tranquil frigate]

Ahh then that's easy

SDMLevel

Try that

If not, honestly try bugging a dev to look at it for you

For i cannot

Apologies

[main flax]

okay will do when i get home

it’s no biggie. honestly i’m not gonna use the feature in my own modpack, but just wanted to bug test it for you since u did ask for someone to check.

btw fire exits are gonna be generated without any dungeon tiles behind them right? otherwise we might see mimics sticking through the interior

[tranquil frigate]

Ahh that second part, probably not

Fire exits are just regular doorways being turned into fire exits

They will probably be next to other rooms tbh

That's an additional check I can do, but not now

[main flax]

started testing

i have titan weight set to 99,999

prior to messing with the mimics config to add the SDMLevel interior and enabling vanilla exits in SDM, it was getting SDM all the time

but after the config changes, it just shows the other interiors. no errors popping up in console.

yeah i believe SDMLevel was correct

give me a bit.. doing more testing could be issue from something else

[main flax]

do LLL weights override SDM's weights?

[topaz turtle]

Would the mimic mod even work with these custom fire exits?

[main flax]

well ill test that too, but my guess is the custom fire exit will overlap the mimic. so i imagine exit door and the mouth will just clip out of the black portal when u open it.

there's an option to change to vanilla exit

tbh i dont think any modded interiors really support mimics that well. office interior used to, but now even that's become borked.

ok finally fixed SDM weight to be constant on titan

lets see if mimics spawn 😮

the vanilla door setting definitely works

hmm

using freecam mod and im not spotting any mimics and even with guaranteed mimic spawn configured

my mimics config:

the entire SDM interior on titan

if there were mimics you would see red blocks

not seeing any of the tiles coz ofc cullfactory is doing its job 🙏 .. which also makes it easy to spot all the scraps, hazards, monsters, and doors

[topaz turtle]

I don't know if I should remove the mimics, since it basically only works on the normal interiors

so we always know the fire exits are real when we're in a custom interior

[main flax]

id like to make something similar to #1190496400123908206 ... but with more conditions for u to spawn at a mimic door when enter through a fire exit from the outside

-rare chance to occur
-alone
-entering that particular fire exit for the first time
-has never exited that particular fire exit before

all those conditions are meant to prevent obvious context clues that its a mimic.. this way the only surefire way to know its fake is by whacking it with a shovel. but if its a rare chance, maybe they forget to do that. 🤫

[silver hare]

Speaking of under the hood, what did you name your flashlights? It probably doesn't matter, but I saw mods such as LobbyControl have flashlights set to not sync by default and figured I'd add it just in case. Honestly, I'm not sure what it means by not syncing since I'm pretty sure you'd want to see other people's flashlights, so if someone could explain, I'd appreciate it lol

[tranquil frigate]

I'm not entirely sure what they mean about syncing in that instance

But the flashlight names one sec

Asset name is "Scarlet Pro Flashlight" and "Scarlet Flashlight"

Display name is "D. Pro Flashlight" and "D. Flashlight"

I'll ask the Mimics mod guy if I need something more to make the mimics work properly

[silver hare]

I've been trying to figure out how to get those flashlights to stay on teleport (without allowing everything) and haven't had any success. I first discovered this issue yesterday when one of them was dropped on teleport despite having it set to allow NonScrap with the GeneralImprovements mod. It doesn't seem like it's customizable with that mod specifically (just none/nonscrap/all) so I've been trying the BetterTeleporter mod but haven't had any luck. It looks like it doesn't use spaces in its config, so I've tried D.Flashlight,D.ProFlashlight,Deco.Flashlight,Deco.flashlight,ScarletFlashlight,ScarletProFlashlight (basically every combo I can think of), but still no success. Not sure what other options I have here really.

[tranquil frigate]

When you wrote "D. Flashlight" did you put a space in between?

[silver hare]

No that was exactly how I had it since it seemed to imply to remove spaces in the config... just tried it with "D. Flashlight" though and still no luck, so perhaps it's a mod conflict. I can try taking out GeneralImprovements just to see, not going to be an ideal solution though

[silver hare]

Yeah, unfortunately that didn't work, I also tried that same list from earlier with GeneralImprovements disabled and still no luck. I do want to note that when getting the flashlight, unlike regular flashlights, it'll show in the bottom right when brought onto the ship - as if it's scrap, though with 0 value. I think that may have something to do with it. If the game thinks it's scrap of some sort, that would certainly explain why the NonScrap setting didn't work on the teleporter in the first place. Still not sure why I can't get it to work manually though, this is kind of weird... D. Pro Flashlight, Deco. Flashlight didn't work either. Maybe BetterTeleporter just doesn't support modded items?

[tranquil frigate]

Can't provide much help unfortunately. However the flashlights are indeed classified as scrap items

[tawdry path]

There is a bug where the target in Huntdown mode turns into an knight. / I used a translator.

[tranquil frigate]

@tawdry path sorry for bug. We cannot look or fix for another week.

[main flax]

Did you get errors in the console?

[silver hare]

Do you think you can change this when you get back then (reclassify it as just a tool), if it's not too complicated? I'd really appreciate it. In the meantime, maybe I'll try learning how to mod the game so I can get some sort of teleporter workaround working lol

[tranquil frigate]

I'll be open to try and have both. It's scrap since it should carry some of the value from the crystal used to form it

[silver hare]

Fair enough, it can always be another config setting. If it is supposed to be carrying some of the value of the crystal, it doesn't seem to be transferring over though. It's possible spawning in the crystal/flashlight with dev tools might've messed something up, I'll have to double check. (I did notice directly spawning in the modded flashlight with dev tools causes it to be non-functional, but I'm assuming that's because it's missing a value it gets from the crystal or something)

[tranquil frigate]

Spawning it with dev tools with not give it good values

[nova wing]

It would be cool if you can set to spawn knights also without the SDM interior

They fit very well with the scoopy dungeon

[main flax]

has anyone tried using lethal quantities to make this work?

[torpid helm]

You can use Lethal quantities for it

[main flax]

wrong thread

#1189848033110798346

[rocky birch]

Thanks

[pulsar plover]

Is it mandatory to have Cull Factory?

[main flax]

why wouldn’t u have cull factory? it’s a great performance boost without noticeable impact to visuals.

it’s just not rendering parts of the dungeon u don’t see any way

[pulsar plover]

Because the last time I reviewed the mod about a month and a half ago, people were complaining about bugs when looking through the windows in the doors or through more than two open doors since it didn't load the environment. I don't know if the mod is currently polished or not.

[main flax]

well that was a month and a half ago

there’s been updates

and it’s been pretty solid

[timid surge]

that was likely before it had portal occlusion culling

[tranquil frigate]

I force the download, but it's not a dependency code wise so you can disable it

[valid scaffold]

It’s polished now dw

[acoustic blaze]

I got stuck on random seed while trying to load SDM on Tolian's Zenit

I've been able to reproduce it as well, it happens every time it tries to load SDM in particular on that moon. Haven't had issues with SDM on other moons though

[tranquil frigate]

Now that is hella strange, there were no other errors either

My break is soon to be over so I can address all the reported issues soonish

[topaz turtle]

Is it possible to disable the custom scraps?

[tranquil frigate]

if you set the scrap's weight to 0, you will effectively disable it

[tranquil frigate]

however why would you want to disable scraps?

[topaz turtle]

I don't really like the crystals tbh

[tranquil frigate]

in that case, this should be fine

[nimble delta]

@tranquil frigate Can I ask if those triangle places are where enemies appear?

I've been meanin' to figure that out

[tranquil frigate]

Yes

You may occasionally hear like a magic ramp-up sound when walking around, that's them spawning on the sigils

[nimble delta]

haven't heard that once yet. Granted I've only been in the interior like 5 times

[tranquil frigate]

Enemies spawning near you in general is rare after all (and they may spawn immediately so you don't even hear the sound to begin with). You have higher chances on this map but it's still a bit rare.

[nimble delta]

You say this when like - the last 2 sessions I waited around like 6 enemies coming out of vents 😅

god do I hate your enemy though.

[tranquil frigate]

Define the hate

[nimble delta]

Even after I limit their maximum to 3 -w -

[tranquil frigate]

They are limited to the same way as Coil-heads

[nimble delta]

ah

still in LQ i've set em both to 3

redundancy

[tranquil frigate]

I get you

[tranquil frigate]

My game plan until the end of v1.3:
Fix mimics
Fix pivot of breakable door pieces
Fix weird ass FlashlightDim bug
Whatever the heck happened to JDS bug
Fix LethalResance bug
Wall placeable paintings not pratical
Grabblable portraits
Huntdown issues
Whatever is happening with GeneralImprovements/BetterTeleporter
Add half crystal (so you can create two deco. flashlights with one crystal)
Whatever happened with Tolain's Zenit

I don't think I will have much conflicts with v50 (besides LLL fixing their stuff). v1.4 is up in the air but until then I will get this stuff done

[formal wadi]

Does this work with v50?

[tranquil frigate]

I can't test until LLL works with v50

[formal wadi]

ohhh ok

[kindred osprey]

think there's an issue with more interiors? they add a green apparatus, and for whatever reason whenever we try to mix one of the crystals with a flashlight it always makes their energy core instead of the colored flashlight. would that be an issue to take up here, or with more interiors?

[tranquil frigate]

Uhh I can take it up with more interiors. Don't worries about it

Except for the whole making flashlights but you actually make a huge energy core thing

Worry about the economy for that one

[kindred osprey]

ok cool. thanks!

[tranquil frigate]

I checked. It's not an issue with MoreInteriors. I believe it's an issue with another mod entirely.

[kindred osprey]

should i grab my mods list then? its over 200, so if itd be easier to not worry about it then its no big deal

[tranquil frigate]

With a mod list of 200, I cannot help you with which mod is breaking everything. That's way too much bro

[kindred osprey]

yeah, i figured as much. oh well, thanks though!

[tranquil frigate]

If you want to narrow it down though, you can use LethalDevMode to spawn in the crystal and flashlight, then start removing mods until you find the one causing issues.

If you remove half the mods each time, you will find the culript relatively quickly

[kindred osprey]

sounds like a plan

well, when i opened the game with lethaldevmode and almost no other changes to do a control test it gave me the decorative flashlight correctly the first time. so i guess whatever went wrong was fixed by either: adding a mod to disable helmet visor, adding lethal dev mode, or deleting some disabled mods

[tranquil frigate]

nah that actually answers my initial theory

which also makes it realy hard to fix

some mod that you have, somehow adds/removes items in the middle of gameplay

which messes up the list of the items and shifts the spawned item (it so happens that the core is next to the flashlight)

but what mod would do such a thing, really hard to find

[kindred osprey]

yeah i noticed they were next to eachother and made that connection, but i wasnt sure why itd offset the items list by exactly one

[tranquil frigate]

cause someone's deleting/adding to the items list

in the middle of gameplay

which is a huge no-no

i can see the modder adding/deleting items when you load up a save. the bug may appear if you load a save, go back to main menu, load up a save again, then creating the item.

[fickle drift]

The CullFactory is absolutely necessary or I will have too many performance problems when I am in this interior. '^'

[tranquil frigate]

i highly recommend you using it, but you don't have to

[fickle drift]

Ohhh, I understand, thank you very much. '^'

[tranquil frigate]

Mimics compability is a lot harder than it first seemed

[glass walrus]

Wish there was some way for the mimics to be compatible with custom doors

[tranquil frigate]

its more work than its worth for that one unfortunately

[opal wigeon]

it would end up coming to LLL if it happens

[glass walrus]

Would be very cool, I personally like a lot of the custom fire exits people have made. SDM's is sick, would be a shame to not see it to have the mimics

[main flax]

man i wonder if it'd be possible to create fire exit mimics using tech similar to the portals from valve's game.
that way u wouldnt have to require the entire block of space behind the fire exit for the mimic monster.
it could just be flat and interior modders wouldnt have to make sure there's no tiles intersecting with the mimic behind the door.

[tranquil frigate]

The later sentence is already done by the mimics mod

[tranquil frigate]

So the portal thing is completely unnecessary. It's also much much much easier to do a box check for rooms than the portal thing

[opal wigeon]

doing it via rendertexture type stuff means it has more places it can viably spawn tho

[cold spindle]

would be fun if one of the mimic variants actually was just the regular fire exit

that'd definitely get me a few times before i learn

[tranquil frigate]

It's possible but it's up to the mimic mod to whether or not that's worth it.

[opal wigeon]

yee

[tranquil frigate]

Personally I think it's way too complicated since most rooms will have some doorway next to empty space to place a mimic

[main flax]

the most ideal mimics mod in my head would be one where interior modders wouldnt have to do anything extra in consideration for it imo.
the portal thing would help with that. also maybe have LLL interiors allow access to their door object and size so the mimic could adjust itself to fit would be cool too. like basically mimic doing all the work instead of other way around of individual interior modders going out of there way to add support for it.
that way we could see more mimics in more types of modded interiors.

coz as of rn i only know office and SDM having support for mimics

[tranquil frigate]

After making mimics work, I believe that the issue has more to do with how modder interiors like to create unique looking fire exit walls. The second it deviates from the vanilla fire exits, it because practically impossible for the Mimics mod to find out where to place its mimic

The empty space is actually not much an issue factor

[main flax]

ur talking about the walls u see on the inside with the mimic?

[tranquil frigate]

Walls inside with the mimic? I don't understand

[main flax]

oh you're probably talking about the door and frame right?

i misunderstood

[tranquil frigate]

Not exactly, but that explanation is easy enough to understand.

Door/doorway/the wall behind the door different -> mimic cannot find the fire exit to place a mimic

[opal wigeon]

@tranquil frigate just got custom item's correctly saving and loading when modpacks are adjusted 🙂

[tranquil frigate]

nice

makes my life and future life easy

@opal wigeon did you perhaps remember me asking to add an event that calls after the custom dungeon items are loaded?

[opal wigeon]

that should be in now i think

[tranquil frigate]

so I can modify the list or even my items a bit before sending it to SpawnScrap

then nice

[opal wigeon]

mhmm

can you provide more context

incase im misunderstanding

[tranquil frigate]

sure

https://pastebin.com/5FHspHRA
I call this function right before I start the dungeon generation process.

My understanding of what you added, is that I could add my custom items/enemies using LLL, and tell it to load only my dungeon is loaded correct?

I really only need to update the weights of my custom scrap and enemies (and the other weights too) before it starts spawning them

And for it to properly reset next day. That's the purpose of the (last/current)[Items/Enemies]Rarirty variables that I set in the beginning of the function. I can mess up the items and enemies lists as much as I want since I know it will be fixed next day

[opal wigeon]

oh yeah you wont need any of that

LLL's ExtendedItem & ExtendedEnemyType have slots for scriptableobject data classes called Matching Properties

these are what you previously used for your dungeon with all those lists (contentsourcenames, levelnames, routeprices etc.) but built into 1 standerdized so

so you can inject your items and enemies into your dungeon the same way you inject your dungeon into levels

[tranquil frigate]

Ya I saw that before. That's good but I can edit the weights of the item/enemy list too yes?

[opal wigeon]

yeah but ideally if i dont forget to make it work you could actually add those weights to the vanilla extendedenemies

but regardless the way your thinking will be probhapsably viable too

[tranquil frigate]

Well if I edit the weights of the vanilla extendedenemies, since it sounds like a scriptableobject it sounds more permanent

Unless I do my current method where I copy the list, which means my code doesn't actually change that much

[opal wigeon]

which is fine

because you can make the vanilla enemies inject via rarity on your specific dungeon

the same way you would for your custom one

we'll see tho, untested waters haha

[tranquil frigate]

perhaps because i can't see the code, I still can't fully understand what you saying

[hidden cape]

I wonder if an alternative mimic style would be possible by leveraging the doorway system in dungen

so it wouldn't be fire exits but regular doors, would be a bit more flexible

then if a custom fire exit model fits nicely over the dungen doorway the mimic could be scaled appropriately and swing any given custom model door

[tranquil frigate]

i almost wasn't gonna do this, but i had to mess with the mimic renders anyway so i went for it

[glass walrus]

This is amazing

Now you must share your knowledge with every interior maker XD

[tranquil frigate]

i would tell them that its a massive pain

[glass walrus]

I'm sure some would be willing to suffer lol

I may come back for more info in a month or so for my own interior, that is if there's not an easier way by then

[tranquil frigate]

there you go, it works for both doors now

[nimble delta]

That looks FUCKING FIRE

So cool 🤩

[main flax]

my friends are totally not gonna expect mimics in a modded interior

[nimble delta]

True!

Now SCPgen needs to do it :p

[hidden cape]

Perhaps, if I can peep raphtalias

[nimble delta]

👀 ...

you the scp boi? >:o

looking up mod

[opal wigeon]

👁️

[nimble delta]

Omg they are-

Why the hecc are you peeping in here so coincidentally?! 🤣

cough ahem- yes

You should peep raph

:p

[opal wigeon]

@young geyser

[tranquil frigate]

Already showed them

[hidden cape]

I'll probably need to do some tweaks though, probably removing all the atypical spots for fire exits

[nimble delta]

#1181019013409677312 message

🤣

Chain of pinging

triple-ensure 753 sees that fire stuff~ :3

[hidden cape]

And adding a back to the custom model since right now it's basically just a hat that sits on the normal blocker

[young geyser]

yo custom fire exit mimic???

[nimble delta]

Honestly, there needs to be some like... what's the word?... custom-mimic code that custom-interior mod devs can just attach to their mod somehow?... .... I am failing to find the right word for this...

some like - open-ended blueprint to allow that kinda stuff easier

copy-paste, put texture there, disable/enable this or that here - bam.

I love that animation, and would love to see every interior all of a sudden not be safe from mimics >:3

[opal wigeon]

753 hasnt been working on the mod so it hasn't been high priority on my side either

thats not a diss or anything just be like that sometimes

[nimble delta]

yus

But when it gets picked up (hopefully eventually)- think of like... how to do that- #1195583267546595389 message - but all the interior dev has to do is copy-paste a section of code and customize a few things to suit their interior correctly

I request people to put clips of those falling for mimics of this interior when it drops

pls

[tranquil frigate]

The code stuff I asked from 753, if implemented should make custom mimic doors "relatively" easy to setup

[nimble delta]

https://tenor.com/view/its-all-relative-friends-relative-ross-gif-12600962

[young geyser]

there also needs to be custom behavior written to prevent clipping per-map usually though

[opal wigeon]

rendertexture time

[tranquil frigate]

Don't you already do collider check for rooms behind though?

[nimble delta]

[copy paste code start]
[section to modify]
[commented out section of saying "Put custom behavior stuff here"]
[copy pasta end]? o -o

or is it not as easy as copy-pasta somewhere inside the custom-interior gen code? o, o

does it have to be fragmented here 'n there? . ,.

[young geyser]

I try, but I still have to manually exclude some rooms

because not every room has a well set up bounding box

[tranquil frigate]

Ohh I see what you mean. That explains the room checks that I saw

[civic lagoon]

raphtalias?

[tranquil frigate]

I checked again what I did. The code isn't rough but you do have to restructure your fire exit blocker prefab so Mimic can recognize it

[hidden cape]

Could probably use some fixing up anyway, maybe I'll do it as part of the port to v50

[tranquil frigate]

let me know when you start doing that. like i figured out how to do it but it's a couple of weird steps

[hidden cape]

I'll have to get a v50 proj setup but could look into it this arvo

[solid beacon]

is this Yukari's pet

[tranquil frigate]

More like Patchy's

[solid beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/books-flame-fire-burning-burn-gif-17638813

[tranquil frigate]

<@&1173795317469159444> some mod plz pin this plz love you

[tranquil frigate]

love ya

[ruby lodge]

Really wish users had pin perms in their own threads.

[charred nymph]

they do, thru Jeb. Haven't announced it tho

/Jeb Pin <message id>

they can moderate their own slowmode, too

[tranquil frigate]

let me test this then

[tranquil frigate]

based

thx

[charred nymph]

:3

[tranquil frigate]

999sec lets go

[charred nymph]

If you're the thread owner you can do it

you should be fine if slowmode is back off

[dim basin]

@tranquil frigate Good now? 🙂

[tranquil frigate]

test

i just had to restart discord

[dim basin]

Good good. Jeb won't pin their own announcement now.

[main flax]

solid pinned message 👌

[weak stag]

Sekibanki coilhead updated to now be "TouhouEnemyModels", and now has Satori as the nutcracker.
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/BeanCan/TouhouSekibankiSpringManCoilHead/
It will be interesting to see if they do others like a Lootbug Marisa, it'll synergise very nicely with your mod

I tried Flandre Ghost girl but it didnt seem to work

[tranquil frigate]

saw the video of it

pretty cool

Oh and they replaced the spring head replacement too

well I got some free time, see if i can learn from them

[tranquil frigate]

2-3 weeks later. i can say that pinnable portraits, while certainly possible, is too much to add and maintain for such an unimportant item

Unless... I simplify it to only the ship's hull

Let me try this Lol nope not gonna work easily not worth it

[amber osprey]

Or what if it were a purchaseable furniture item with the same model?

[tranquil frigate]

i thought about it, but it would be confusing to why you can pick up and sell the floor portraits but not the wall ones

sure you can contribute it to being a game, but i don't like that answer when i can compromise a solution

[rare needle]

The Flandre mod works but is incompatible with the Diversity revamp that's probs why

[weak stag]

i dont even have that and it wasnt working for me, so idk whats causing it

i dont have any other ghost girl mods besides what....i assume Lethal Resonance messing with the sounds (?)

[rare needle]

I doubt it'd be that lol

DiFFoZ has showcased the mod working though so it does work

[rare needle]

Do you have Symbiosis?

I know I used to have that and learned it causes a lot of strange issues and conflicts

Thanks to @forest lark

Well nvm I doubt it's that mod

Hmmmmm

[weak stag]

I do have it

[rare needle]

I see nothing in it's code that touches the ghost girl but

Who knows

LOL

[weak stag]

My list is:

[thorn heron]

wait what

why where

[spiral pawn]

anyone know if this works with LethalLevelLoaderFixed?

[tranquil frigate]

I don't know how LLLFixed works but I don't see why not

[acoustic blaze]

Yes it does

[spiral pawn]

omaigod im gonna play it now then

[spiral pawn]

tried using lethal level loader fixed just now and hm..
How'd you get it to work?

[acoustic blaze]

I have LethalLevelLoader disabled, and LethalLevelLoaderFixed enabled

[tranquil frigate]

I'm not sure if I'm going crazy but is that just a black screen?

[spiral pawn]

uh yeah, I can't see. but I'm "ingame"

This is when I start a new save

I can jump around and stuff but its literally a black screen, can't see pause menu either so I gotta alt + F4

[tranquil frigate]

Try whatever they said

[spiral pawn]

I also have that disabled already

[acoustic blaze]

Modlist?

[spiral pawn]

How can I copy paste the list quickly?

or should I just snip

[tranquil frigate]

You should also provide the log

[spiral pawn]

Would that be logoutput.log?

[acoustic blaze]

do you use r2modmanager?

[spiral pawn]

I'm using r2modman

[tranquil frigate]

Yes

[acoustic blaze]

in settings

for mod list

[spiral pawn]

I think this is the log

Dependency string list

BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
notnotnotswipez-MoreCompany-1.8.1
KoderTeh-Boombox_Controller-1.2.4
Evaisa-FixPluginTypesSerialization-1.1.1
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.7.3
Sigurd-CSync-4.1.0
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.15.1
Zaggy1024-OpenBodyCams-1.3.0
Badham_Mods-CirnoFumoScrap-2.0.1
coderCleric-Poltergeist-0.3.1
Scintesto-Monster_Plushies-1.2.8
x753-More_Suits-1.4.3
BunyaPineTree-ModelReplacementAPI-2.4.1
doppelwrangler-Commando_Suit-1.0.0
SethC-RiskOfRainItems-0.2.7
FlipMods-TooManyEmotes-2.0.11
doppelwrangler-V1_and_V2_Suits-0.4.0
Pee_John_Labs-Lethal_Master_Chief-0.1.0
Pee_John_Labs-LethalIsaac-1.0.0
randomPMenjoyer-Limbus_Suit-1.0.4
FEB-SCP_Suits-1.1.0
Kittenji-Dont_Touch_Me-1.2.1
no00ob-LCSoundTool-1.5.1
Clementinise-CustomSounds-2.3.2
LeagueOfSlaves-LobotomyJester-1.1.0
NotAtomicBomb-TerminalApi-1.5.2
darmuh-suitsTerminal-1.0.6
AinaVT-YippeeScrap-1.0.7
LethalAPI-LethalAPI_Terminal-1.0.1
Caigan-Archipelago_Scrap-2.1.0
APLC-APLC-0.5.21
Pooble-LCBetterSaves-1.7.3
Nikki-NikkisCosmeticKingdom-2.0.0
Jordo-NeedyCats-1.2.1
Lordfirespeed-OdinSerializer-2022.11.9
fumiko-CullFactory-0.9.3
IAmBatby-LethalLevelLoader-1.1.6
Alice-ScarletDevilMansion-1.3.7
xilophor-LethalNetworkAPI-2.1.6
Piggy-LC_Office-1.1.23
Refract-LethalLevelLoaderFixed-1.1.0

These're the latest mods I got, the scarlet devil mansion and lc_office

Should I try disabling LC_Office and LethalNetworkAPI?

[tranquil frigate]

[Info :LethalLevelLoader] LethalLevelLoader(Fixed) loaded!!
[Info :LethalLevelLoader] Transpiling GenerateNewLevelClientRpc
[Error : HarmonyX] Failed to patch bool RoundManager::SpawnRandomDaytimeEnemy(UnityEngine.GameObject[] spawnPoints, float timeUpToCurrentHour): System.Exception: Cannot assign method return type System.Boolean to __result type UnityEngine.GameObject for method bool RoundManager::SpawnRandomDaytimeEnemy(UnityEngine.GameObject[] spawnPoints, float timeUpToCurrentHour)

That's where it failed

[spiral pawn]

So the loader was able to start but had an error I'm assuming?

[tranquil frigate]

The loader failed bad trying to load

[spiral pawn]

I don't really know how to read these properly so I'm just wondering what it means

o

do I have to be on ver v49?

[tranquil frigate]

Were you on v50?

[spiral pawn]

mhm

[tranquil frigate]

Well that explains it

Lll doesn't work yet for v50

[spiral pawn]

ah, ok. So I can run it on v49 then.

[tranquil frigate]

Yuh

[spiral pawn]

gonna try it on v49 then.

If it works, then yay. I can run it with Archipelago/Multiworld Randomizer runs :o

[granite meteor]

Archipelago takes a bunch of games and spreads their items across the other games right?

How does that even work for Lethal company

[weak stag]

Is this the correct way of writing it?

[tranquil frigate]

Looks like it yes

[lost rampart]

Does the knight and jester already spawn using the special spawn logic by default from this event, or would I need to change this config?

[tranquil frigate]

If it's default, you don't have to change it. It already has the special spawn logic

[tranquil frigate]

My answer

[lost rampart]

Gotcha, thank you

[tranquil frigate]

im trying to get this update out with the mimics combability and other small minor changes. but after this update and the v50 fixes, it's gonna be slow updating

ill keep it updated to the major updates (for as long as I can), but expect major updates to this mod to be slow

[rare needle]

@weak stag I figured out what was causing the Flandre model to not work

Disable the dress girl patch in TooManyEmotes

With Diversity it's flat out creepy btw

XD

[main flax]

diversity dress girl really gives me the chills...

😨

[weak stag]

Oh NICE

[lean trellis]

Is anyone else having issues with the devil mansion?

[teal stone]

Its not compatible rn with v50 from what me and friends tested it

[tranquil frigate]

I was told of the existence of v50 experimental build, so I can start the updating process

[lean trellis]

Woo!

[tranquil frigate]

Still making progress on fixing my dungeon for v50. I am accidently finding bugs for it that's preventing me from finishing it (but at least I am contributing to the v50's stable update)

[thorn heron]

wait holy shit

why am i just now finding out about this

[tranquil frigate]

Cause I've been pranked for 2-3 weeks and not been able to release it

[thorn heron]

oh damn

[tranquil frigate]

1 week of negotiating with Mimics mod bro to get an api up, then almost the second i am given the final test version, v50 releases now I gotta wait for LLL

[opal wigeon]

yippeee

[tranquil frigate]

It's a journey

[main flax]

can’t catch a break can you 🤣

[timid fox]

Is there a outside looking of the building?
I suggest put the building at March, since there is a lake and sometimes foggy😋

[tranquil frigate]

ya about that, we have something special in the work (in curtesy of someone very cool)

it will probably release the same time the v50 patch comes out

[valid scaffold]

👀

[potent hinge]

@timid fox you're the creator of the TouhouCompany mod, right? The one with the model/sound replacements for enemies.

v0.9.3 seems to not be working at all

Gimme a minute and I'll give a log

NVM, opened an issue on the github: https://github.com/BoredBean/TouhouCompany/issues/5

[tranquil frigate]

not me sorry

i just make this dungeon

[tranquil frigate]

Lol I cannot read, you weren't even @'ing me

[potent hinge]

Sorry, I put it here because they sent a message here yesterday

[tranquil frigate]

Nah you chill

[timid fox]

Like I write in README, discord is not a good option to contact me.
Espicially, in someone else's post.

[copper wadi]

From what me read, this still not work on v50, correct? (´・ω・｀)

[raven haven]

It doesn't not work on v50. From what I understand, they are waiting for Lethal Level Loader to update, since this mod was made with that, and won't work without it.

[copper wadi]

Me tried with the test github version and the dungeon didn't show up as well, so only waiting then... _(:3 」∠

[tranquil frigate]

Basically what Leaf said. I don't necessarily need LLL v50 but I'm not as free as I used to be. I don't have the time to make it work without LLL atm so I'm just waiting for that to update

[copper wadi]

Oki (´・ω・｀)

[raven haven]

LLL updated 33 minutes ago.

Seems that some interiors work right away. I haven't tested this one yet, but just letting anyone paying attention know.

[timid surge]

this one will need an update

[tranquil frigate]

Great news, the update is basically ready and hot

[rare needle]

Let's gooooo

[tranquil frigate]

But LLL boi has to fix some code so my default dungeon loading parameters save properly

yall can wait one more day

[amber osprey]

🎉

[tranquil frigate]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Alice/ScarletDevilMansion/
update out

this update is just so the mod works, besides a change to the deco flashlights to make them more worthwhile, there's no changes yet

let me know if it breaks. if no, i can go back to updating the mod bit by bit (like actually adding the mimics compability)

[karmic jackal]

yippee!

[tranquil frigate]

oh ya i can make polls

lets try this

answer however you like

i will be finishing the v1.3 series with the mimics patch and of course adding the v50 elements

v1.4's focus will be the answer to the poll above, but it just won't be as fast as it was before

[dim oasis]

No more planetary weight configuration options in the cfg file?

[tranquil frigate]

Oh I forgot to mention, use the LLL config now for that

[dim oasis]

Thanks.

[lean trellis]

Is there a way to change where the dungeon Spawns?

Config didn't show nothin

[granite meteor]

It's in LLL's config now

[frozen topaz]

Only one who voted for a new prop? Shame. Anyways, how hard would it be to have the little rotatable paintings be occasionally be replaced with a fumo?

[lean trellis]

Ah

[tranquil frigate]

Best I can do is add mod compatibility with the fumos mod, but that would probably confuse the player on what's a prop and what's loot, probably not a smart move

[frozen topaz]

Fair enough

[glass walrus]

Does this version of SDM have the mimic compatibility you were working on?

[tranquil frigate]

not yet, i need to make sure if the v50 patch is not completely busted (and it also updated to LLL v1.2 which is also asking for more potential issues)

but it looks like there's no issues yet? so I will get the mimic thing in soon

[glass walrus]

Take your time, no rush. I was just curious 🙂

Excited for what you cook up in the future

[tranquil frigate]

oh i don't feel rushed or anything. i want the mimics thing out (for the past 2 weeks)

[glass walrus]

You killed it, it looks so good🤩

[covert tartan]

I think adding more tiles would be better, i still feel like it plays a bit to much like the manor, adding some more unique rooms would be nice

[amber osprey]

Have felt some lag in the SDM. Party members have had the same too. Not sure what the circumstances that cause it are since it isn't constant its just occasional small spike. Didn't have it before v50

[tranquil frigate]

It's possible that it's an enemy inefficiently pathfinding around the mansion

I get them too, and usually it's cause I spooked a braken or something

If I am given some consistent pattern to when it happens, I should be able to solve it (or at the least force a pathfining mod dependency)

[cerulean ether]

@tranquil frigate any chance clients spawn different items than what you expect when combining flashlights?

I'm being blamed cuz my scrap is spawning lol

[rare needle]

Yeah when clients converted a flashlight with TheGiantSpecimens installed it turned into a redwood heart

[cerulean ether]

Which I cant see being my fault somehow lol

[tranquil frigate]

sounds like a fault with TheGiantSpecimens

one sec

[tranquil frigate]

well to be exact, not exactly your fault your fault, but an unexpected consequence

[cerulean ether]

Hmm

Do let me know what I need to change from my side

[tranquil frigate]

ill go sniffing your code with dnspy

[cerulean ether]

It's on github :3

[tranquil frigate]

i find dnspy easier with finding specific lines of code

btw

how do you add your items?

[cerulean ether]

Oh actually it's a bit too updates on github so might be a bit not what you expect, not sure

I register through LL

And the heart spawns through similar code to lgu, spawning the network object after the Redwood dies

Among a couple other things like setting the price etc

[tranquil frigate]

@cerulean ether i can say that it is in fact, not you

[cerulean ether]

Yay

[tranquil frigate]

but another mod, to which i have to ask the original dude's mod list

but if you would look here

you notice your heart is next to my flashlight?

[cerulean ether]

Mhm

[tranquil frigate]

something is moving the item list by one index, which is messing up my index caching

someone's mod

[cerulean ether]

Ah icic, yeah I wonder what mods doing that

@rare needle ig send your mod list

[tranquil frigate]

and the mod is inserting the item into the list AFTER someone creates a flashlight

you know actually, that may be fault now actually

[cerulean ether]

Lmao

[tranquil frigate]

nonono wait

nm, i was thinking about scrap

the scrap list gets moved around of course, but i cached my item in the regular global items list

which should never be touched after the Initiation phase

anyway

@rare needle the list now

[rare needle]

018f18ab-c77c-6ea6-061f-de321582748a

Keep in mind I disabled TheGiantSpecimens

[tranquil frigate]

it wouldn't be that mod, i had a similar bug complaint a while ago

its someone's mod, but i gotta look for it

[opal wigeon]

huh

do you

[cerulean ether]

Inb4 it's LLL

My first guess was a problem with LL and LLL since I still use LL but dunno

[tranquil frigate]

i cache it after the flashlight creation is called once

which is way way way after StartOfRound etc.

and i cache it in the global item list, which is never affected in theory

and if it is affected, it should be appended at the end list

but someone is inserting their item multiple times, after the first StartOfRound

AKA

someone's in trouble

[opal wigeon]

is it offset up or down

[tranquil frigate]

offset up

[opal wigeon]

it shouldn’t matter for this problem but

Ok cool

I gotta check but i think i remove two things from the list on SoR awake

I should keep that in mind just incase

[rare needle]

Lmk when you find the problematic mod

[rare needle]

You could test uploading the version you have ported to LLL and I could help you find out

Or send me a beta build you have ready you consider stable enough to test

[cerulean ether]

I havent ported yet, I'm studying for exams lol

I'm pulling a whitespike on this operation

[tranquil frigate]

First time you run the game

[06:13:45.1693610] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 0: Binoculars
[06:13:45.1693610] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 1: Boombox
[06:13:45.1693610] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 2: Flashlight
[06:13:45.1693610] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 3: Jetpack
[06:13:45.1693610] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 4: Key
[06:13:45.1693610] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 5: Lockpicker
[06:13:45.1693610] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 6: Apparatus
[06:13:45.1693610] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 7: Mapper
[06:13:45.1693610] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 8: Pro-flashlight
[06:13:45.1693610] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 9: Shovel
[06:13:45.1693610] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 10: Stun grenade

Second time you run the game

[06:14:40.9692646] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 0: Binoculars
[06:14:40.9692646] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 1: Boombox
[06:14:40.9692646] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 2: Jetpack
[06:14:40.9692646] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 3: Key
[06:14:40.9692646] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 4: Lockpicker
[06:14:40.9692646] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 5: Apparatus
[06:14:40.9692646] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 6: Mapper
[06:14:40.9692646] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 7: Pro-flashlight
[06:14:40.9692646] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 8: Shovel
[06:14:40.9692646] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 9: Stun grenade
[06:14:40.9692646] [Info   :ImoutoSama.ScarletMansion] 10: Extension ladder

you may notice that the flashlight

has been gaslit from existance

the question i have is, how do i detect which mod

[cerulean ether]

lmaoo

[rare needle]

I would guess it's a scrap mod no?

[rare needle]

I will say, maybe the rotation shit in GI? It does make flashlights spawn crooked from the dropship when enabled

I did switch it to false after posting the pack earlier for that reason but 🤔

[tranquil frigate]

i think i found the cause of the issue

i think it's LLL having a weird interaction with some mod

[rare needle]

My guess is

TheGiantSpecimens then right?

Cus when I disabled it everything worked as normal

@cerulean ether you did theorize this same thing too

LOL

[cerulean ether]

again

not my mod

lol

in the chain of blame, my mod is just the victim

[rare needle]

I just dunno of any mods that touch the flashlight

[tranquil frigate]

I had someone dm that they had an issue where their loot would completely change everytime they loaded into a ship

[opal wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-juice-cry-cat-kitten-tears-gif-15751834

[tranquil frigate]

They unloaded LethalModDataLib and apparently it fixed?

I don't which mod is exactly is at fault, but I can say that it's not GiantSpecimen

[opal wigeon]

If they unload moddata lib itll unload both our mods lmao

that issue is me doing something wrong to trigger an issue with moddatalib

[tranquil frigate]

well, that would then lead back to you

LLL boi

back to the computer

after your nap tonight

[karmic jackal]

😳

[cerulean ether]

for now, temporarily, would SDM have to change the way it spawns the flashlight?

[opal wigeon]

naur

prob fixed within 24 hours

[rare needle]

Oh now that you're here

I did have a bug with LightsOut where items from ImmersiveScrap like the Lamps and Lanterns would be permanently off after dropping them in the ship and they wouldn't turn back on after picking them up

So yeah something for you to fix

Weather boi

[karmic jackal]

😳🥲

[rare needle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Glitch/NoPropShadows/ I guess this exists til you do fix it

Lol

Assuming it still works

[karmic jackal]

OH IT'S XU'S MOD 🥲🥲

[rare needle]

Yup

[cerulean ether]

:3

[karmic jackal]

I use different methods for disable and enable

could be it

don't know tho

Will check Monday

[silver barn]

Had this yesterday aswell, flashlights turned into shovels, and overall loot on the ship changed to other loot (though the value didnt change)

[rare needle]

It'll be fixed soon, Smart Item Saving is being integrated into LLL in the mean time use SmartItemSaving

[silver barn]

Thank you :3

[dim oasis]

Does ScarletDevilMansion spawn monsters now?

[tranquil frigate]

It has always spawned monsters? Do you perhaps mean a much earlier version?

[dim oasis]

Version 1.3.8. I waited at ScarletDevilMansion until night and couldn't see the monster either

There's a strange log ：[Warning:CullFactory] A MeshRenderer in SM_MayorEntrance_FINAL_32x24 Tile(Clone) was unexpectedly destroyed.

[tranquil frigate]

Hmm, maybe there's a bug or something with your mod list

Oh you can ignore that, CullFactory will hate me for that but you can ignore it

Can you send me your mod list and I will be able to take a look tomorrow

Maybe it is my fault but I can't really know right

[tranquil frigate]

Oh just all the basic ones hmm

[dim oasis]

Just the basics, that's all.

[tranquil frigate]

I'll check it and I'll report back. I haven't had anyone report bugging enemy spawns yet

Maybe the enemies got locked behind locked doors by bad luck? Well I'll see

[dim oasis]

I've only changed two things.

[tranquil frigate]

Oh? What are those changes?

[tranquil frigate]

Ohh Titan ya

I need to find a better solution but, Titan is so big that with the 3 different paths, it's possible that enemies take forever to get to you

Maybe that's the issue but I'll check

[dim oasis]

Love you and thanks for sharing the mod

[cerulean ether]

Damn no one confessed to me for my mod creation

[teal stone]

This concern me lol is this ok?

[nimble delta]

Probably scary

[lost rampart]

well im thoroughly spooked

[dim oasis]

Put a Discord link in your README!

[cerulean ether]

Will do for the next update xd

[dim oasis]

I'm very sorry, monsters can spawn normally. The cause of the problem is a problem with my game archive

But sometimes it says:Max shadow requests count reached, dropping all exceeding requests. You can increase this limit by changing the Maximum Shadows on Screen property in the HDRP asset. Is this because the map is too big?

[tranquil frigate]

Are you using Advanced Company by chance?

[tranquil frigate]

Ya that issue, I'll fix it somehow one day eventually i hope

[dim oasis]

thank you

[tranquil frigate]

highlighting this poll again, but im pretty sure the result is set in stone

[cerulean ether]

I wouldn't mind helping making a new enemy if you're ever in the mood for it, it's pretty fun

[alpine goblet]

@tranquil frigate sup, quick question : are the paintings considered as apparatice ?

[tranquil frigate]

They are not, they are unique

But they can trigger Meltdown if you have that mod and you toggle the config

[alpine goblet]

good to know

thanks

[rocky mural]

meltdown's config or sdm's?

[tranquil frigate]

Sdm's config

Since my painting will spawn an enemy by default, you can choose whether or not the painting

• triggers Meltdown and an enemy
• just Meltdown
• just spawn an enemy

[tranquil frigate]

I already hired someone to make an enemy model and animations, sorry

I noticed that a lot of people want a new enemy, but I won't be able to do that and new tiles at the same time

So at the least I will make an enemy variant

[cerulean ether]

Daym, moneyh, I can't wait to see how it turns out

[dreamy smelt]

So, I wanted to try out the mod, but when it was loading I noticed this error

[tranquil frigate]

What the hell

[dreamy smelt]

Didn't think much of it, but then if I load any save (even new) it's just black screen

[rare needle]

This shouldn't be happening

[tranquil frigate]

Ya what they said

Can you provide your mod list?

I'll give it a look

[dreamy smelt]

It's kinda hard, I instal every thing manualy

[tranquil frigate]

That's fine, if you take a screenshot of your mod folder

I can at least give it a look and see why

It may be faster actually to give me the full log, if you still have it

[tranquil frigate]

I think it's the auto translator mod but I'll give it a proper look later tonight

[dreamy smelt]

damn

[tranquil frigate]

That mod also seems to break other mods too

I don't think I can fix my mod to make it work with the auto-translator mod (I think it is literally translating the text in my code)

Super sorry

[dreamy smelt]

yep, it was the auto-translator! Everything is fine without it

[tranquil frigate]

Pushed small update. Fixed a few bugs but more importantly added the spike trap

[tranquil frigate]

Pushed the mimics compatibility update and an experimental fix for the max light warning spam

That fix also seemed to cause a weird lighting issue with Mimics' hole weirdly enough (when my dungeon is active), but I'll take it over the warning spam

[thorn heron]

my face when

[rare needle]

@tranquil frigate Got sent into the Shadow Realm and got this error

this as well

and this LOL

it keeps going

Reverting to 1.3.9 fixed it idk why 1.3.10 is brokey

[trim dove]

I've found a bug that is caused by the latest version of SDM, when I try to create a lobby, it gets stuck in this screen, no input whatsoever works and cant quit the game (aside from alt+f4), making the game unplayable. Disabling SDM fixes this issue and reenabling it breaks it again.

[rare needle]

I got sent into the Shadow Realm entirely I think it breaks if you don't use Mimics atm

[trim dove]

also worth mentioning, during this state the console is heavily spammed with

[19:58:09.2702691] [Info   : Unity Log] soumdmanager: True; False

[trim dove]

interesting

do you need to have it enabled or just installed?

[rare needle]

Idk I downgraded it, my friend theorized it was trying to request the Mimics API though

We'll find out once @tranquil frigate sifts through my log

[timid surge]

oh wait was it the classic shadow count thing? that happens even with CullFactory? that seems a little worrying potentially

it shouldn't be possible to render that many lights with CullFactory except in long hallways I would expect

[tranquil frigate]

What the heck did I forget one sec

[young geyser]

guess you're forced to use the Mimics mod >:)

[rare needle]

Lol

Tbf only reason I removed it is cus my group just never died to them anymore

[young geyser]

I lowered the spawn rate a bit so now they're more of a surprise

[median hazel]

is this gonna be a quick update, wondering cause my friends and i play in an hour

[tranquil frigate]

entirely a coil flip

if you don't see me posting that it's fixed, assume it's broken

[median hazel]

noted, thanks

[tranquil frigate]

unless you have mimics installed :)

[median hazel]

imma just wait then 🚶‍♂️

no offense to mr mimic mod im just not a fan

[tranquil frigate]

understandable, but v1.3.9 is still good

[median hazel]

oh ok, noted

[tranquil frigate]

no wait, hold your horses

maybe we're back

[median hazel]

🚶‍♂️ ↪️

im listening

[tranquil frigate]

this is probably the fix. just had to make a separate .dll

well ain't that my fault

@young geyser i still believe that a class is the best approach, but it would require future developers to make and load a separate .dll if they want to soft depend on Mimics

well, i figured it out and it's really only an annoyance, but I can see it being a potenial problem

well i'll think about later for the time being

[young geyser]

Surely you just don't have an if(loaded) somewhere or something and you can still have all the mimic-referencing code as long as it isn't called, right?

[tranquil frigate]

well what happened was, since I have to create a class based on a MimicsAPI base class, it forces it into becoming a type

a type that cannot be determined when you do this
var types = Assembly.GetExecutingAssembly().GetTypes();

and everyone calls that for the NetcodePatcher

[young geyser]

oh hmm

[tranquil frigate]

I have a solution in mind, sure more annoying for me, but it doesn't require a separate .dll

BUT

Im the only person using the mimics api so you won't bother anyone else :)

[lean trellis]

So...\

[tranquil frigate]

in English for yall

update in 5 minutes

[lean trellis]

If I don't have mimics itll be ok?

[tranquil frigate]

da thing

[lean trellis]

Huh

[median hazel]

awesome

cant wait to have this interior back on the list

[rocky mural]

least obvious mimics ad

[tranquil frigate]

pushed fix

apologies for the code tomfoolery

[median hazel]

yippee

[rare needle]

Why is it saying page not found?

Lol

[tranquil frigate]

it got rejected for some reason

ill be back

[rare needle]

☠️ You got this

[tranquil frigate]

not trying to bit-mine your computer i promise

[rare needle]

Haha

[tranquil frigate]

alright we back

@median hazel the mod should be up

[median hazel]

hooray yippee hurrah

[rocky meadow]

So I think I saw in here that in order to edit the weight for this interior, you have to do that through Lethal Level Loader but where do I do that? I have it like this but I still don't get the interior.

And weirdly enough, the circus interior has a ridiculous spawn rate.

[tranquil frigate]

uhh good question uhh

@opal wigeon you know what's happening?

[opal wigeon]

not sure

aicidir in the config worries me tho

[rocky meadow]

That was just me copy and pasting from the other config.

Should I remove it to see if that does anything?

[opal wigeon]

i mean more like

are you using acidir

[rocky meadow]

No. I don't think Wesley has ported those yet.

Or whatever the plan was.

[opal wigeon]

not sure

[rocky meadow]

I also never assigned this. Looking in both configs for circus (I don't know why there's two of them) there's nothing there.

[rocky meadow]

I fixed it. The reason why the circus flow was so high was because the config in for the Bozoros moon was set really high. And for Scarlet Devil Mansion, I noticed the config was not updated (SDM still had the dungeon spawn weight config option) so I uninstalled it, same with Lethal Level Loader just in case, and installed it back again and edited the configs accordingly.

[tranquil frigate]

My config doesn't do anything anymore, but hey if it's fixed, then it's all good

[rocky meadow]

Yeah, when I said "edited the configs accordingly" I meant LLL's. The config for yours didn't have any dungeon spawn weights or anything.

[tranquil frigate]

Ohh okay, makes sense then

[rocky meadow]

Thank you for trying your best to help, though! And big fan of the interior. Well done on it!

[tranquil frigate]

Just doing God's work

Spreading the influence of Touhou

[rocky meadow]

🫡

[granite meteor]

Amen soldier

[nimble delta]

So I'm assuming in LLL - I gotta transfer the dungeon weight config from the old config into LLL's "Dungeon Injection Settings - Manual Level Names List"?... and instead of "Rend@200", gotta make it "Rend:200" .,. ..... time to quickly learn how to replace in a line . ,. ... but I suppose also this means just because you add the mod now - doesn't mean anything in it is activated until you go into LLL's config and enable it huh?

[glass walrus]

Yup! Manual Level Names List is where you want to put it, and make sure you have content configuration enabled in the LLL config

[nimble delta]

Do I just need to enable content configuration, or do I need to also enable Dynamic Dungeon Size Restriction? Or does the scarlet config override that section and not need to be enabled?

[glass walrus]

You just need Enable Content Configuration set to true. If you want to adjust the size of SDM you can enable the Dynamic Size Restriction, but you don't need to

[nimble delta]

I love how there's an injection setting specifically for mod names

If I just typed "Wesleys Moons" in there, would it put scarlet devil mansion on the pool of all wesley's moons?

oh but it'd put the same rarity on all the moons that mod adds...

better to individualize it via. level names instead

[glass walrus]

I honestly wouldn't recommend using LE with LLL, will just lead to issues. They're not really compatible, Wesleys Moons should be ported over to LLL soon. As for if Wesleys Moons works in the Mod Name Injection, I honestly have no idea. You can test interior chances at the terminal using the simulate command

[nimble delta]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-guy-gif-24111092

Wesley uses LE right now? ._ .

oh - it uses LEC. Heart nearly dropped 🤣

I'd be like "Why the hell would they change to LE when they were transitioning"

[glass walrus]

Still not really compatible

[nimble delta]

I mean LE is nuked

LEC should function with LLL - should it not?

[glass walrus]

If you run into issues with LLL, I would first assume it's caused by having LEC

[nimble delta]

Yeh - not like I can even use wesley moons atm o- o... they're transitioning afaik so it'll only be a matter of time

I just wondered where the LE comment came from outta nowhere 😅

[nimble delta]

... @glass walrus

Do I need to set the weight manually - individually - per level eue

[opal wigeon]

LEC isnt supported anymore either

if it works it works

if it doesnt it doesnt

[glass walrus]

If using Level List then yeah

[nimble delta]

Is there no base weight somewhere.... default weight? e-e

[glass walrus]

For the tags list you could do Vanilla:300

[nimble delta]

Could I do "Modded:20" and that'd make all modded moons 20 weight?

[granite meteor]

iirc, in v49, enabling any LLL config while using LEC would brick the terminal

No idea about it working with v50

[tranquil frigate]

we have some hallway renovations under way

[thorn heron]

Hot

[frozen topaz]

Always wonder how people manage to design these things, unity feels really unintuitive to me.

[weak stag]

Marisa lootbug in SDM looks so funny

[tranquil frigate]

hehehe

its so scuffed thats it perfect

[weak stag]

@timid fox you do good! 👍

[frozen topaz]

Eh

So weird that I can use stickers from elsewhere but not emotes from elsewhere anymore

[weak stag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1226670728019972218/1235072493463802017/MarisaLootbug1.mp4?ex=66330a64&is=6631b8e4&hm=1094a4b9f1dbbd0fdf97e1844a933422bcc5de3579670080ba2fad3986245cd9&

I must get footage myself of them on the sdm

I was also horrified to find that she has a chance to have a different appearance as well

[frozen topaz]

Peak comedy

[weak stag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1226670728019972218/1235054741285765223/YuyukoWorm.mp4?ex=6632f9dc&is=6631a85c&hm=408c6d64c6b409a4fa3e26a89d73e47be4b1d483577ed8eb7305f085559462f1&

too much touhou

[cerulean ether]

lmao

[celest kernel]

It's beautiful

[weak stag]

https://tenor.com/view/nue-houjuu-ufo-undefined-fantastic-object-nue-houjuu-gif-24855541

Its him!!

also
@tranquil frigate Do you have plans to make any other mods?

[tranquil frigate]

just this

[weak stag]

Ah i see
I've been considering taking a shot at doing a former hell/animal realm interior or something with some friends
How much experience did you have with modelling, unity and proc. gen prior to this? And how tricky have you found it?

[cerulean ether]

Modding is fun, I'm about to start an interior with no experience myself, dunno about lady raph, but I've had 0 experience with anything related to code and modding and I'm doing great, just takes some time

[tranquil frigate]

It's real real hard and tedious, but the result payoff is real good

I had an advantage with the Touhou-ish 3d assets that I already had (they were from previous game jams I've done)

[weak stag]

omg Xu
Thats awesome actually, i just tried the new giant out last night with a friend, we loved it

[tranquil frigate]

Which without, this mod would be never possible

As I have no modeling experience. Which means you would have to be decent at making 3d assets

[weak stag]

ooohhh, i see
I know someone who's offered to work with me on it and does modelling, she's the one who got me into touhou actually
Shes quite a nerd for like japanese architecture as well which would help alot with the interior i would wanna go for

[cerulean ether]

Modelling is probably the most tedious process for me so I'd definitely take that help if you're being offered it!

[cerulean ether]

Also ty 🩷

The payoff is indeed nice, seeing people play the mod

[weak stag]

10/10 would get yeeted into quicksand again

[cerulean ether]

Hahaha that's amazing

I gtg for a couple hours but I highly recommend u go for it, its pretty fun to mod (imo), and ask anytime you need help with anything, people here, atleast me, love helping

[weak stag]

Alright, sure!

[tranquil frigate]

simple jump puzzles added
also changed the dungeon generation a fair bit

update in a fat minute

[tranquil frigate]

the gist of the dungeon generations changes are the following:
each main path has an preset "entrance" tile
bigger tiles are generally rarer
branching paths are much shorter
obviously two new jump puzzles/death pit to make hallways more scary

overall, the dungeon should feel smaller, let me know how the changes feel

[rare needle]

@tranquil frigate Why so many dang turrets now?