Immersive Scraps : New lore-friendly scraps

[stable relic]

Yeah man! Its nice to have people who actually help rather than the ones who solve problems quietly leaving everyone else screwed,

it took us a while to figure out what was causing the problem and how to fix it, now you get to enjoy the spoils!

[uncut sphinx]

i like to make sure to let people now the issues politely so we as a community can help each other and build up

[stable relic]

also we had problems with scrap randomly changing its value, the item type or just deleting itself out of nowhere too. Strange bug but we found a fix for that too if you encounter it! It was really infuriating.

[uncut sphinx]

alright. Tysm

[stable relic]

It doesn't really change much. The config warns of it causing issues, but its never caused us any, ever. We just keep it on permanently. Its in LethalLib. "EnableItemSaveFix"

I figured i'd share it since i might not be around to tell you later and it doesn't have any detrimental side effects

[somber grail]

I realized I misread the entire scrap weight-

I thought it controled the chance the scrap was vanilla or not-

Not what moons they spawn on-

[spice ibex]

@lean plover i think the axe and plunger lost the weapon ability can u check if u have time

[supple shoal]

Xu is aware of the weapons not having their abilitites and said they're gonna fix it this weekend

[spice ibex]

oh good to know thank you

[dreamy ridge]

Would it be possible to allow us within a config to edit the weight and value of the scraps in the modpack?

[lean plover]

Way too many scrap to do that

Just spawn weight for each I'll add

[delicate maple]

inb4 they mean actual weight because of anvil

[woven mist]

lethal quantities should work for this, no? if you want to mess with it that in depth

[dreamy ridge]

honestly I'm trying to find anyway possible to avoid Lethal Quantities because every other issue is see is conflicts with LQ xD

[woven mist]

thats fair

[azure saffron]

Oh? Which ones do this?
I'm currently halfway through config'ing my package through LQ so don't want to waste time if possible lol

[lean plover]

did the plunger bat and axe have animations?

[snow cairn]

plunger was supposed to be identical to a shovel, bat was supposed to deal 2 damage, and axe was supposed to deal 3 damage but have a decent amount of weight and value to it

[spice ibex]

all of them have the normal shovel hit animation on LE immersive scraps

the plunger sound is different tho, its rubbery instead of normal shovel hit

[lean plover]

updated uploaded

you now have real configs

unfortunately i couldnt get weapons working

if someone's gotten something similar to a shovel working before

please reach out LOL

[limpid fern]

Not sure if they work dealing damage n such, but i know the weapons in the FFXIV items can be swung and bonk

[somber grail]

I assume I can disable certain scrap by setting it to be zero?

[lean plover]

yeah

[somber grail]

sweet

[digital prawn]

There's also fireaxe in scoopys which even has a config for the damage dealt.

[rich panther]

Hmm, does the Toy Hammer from Lethal Things work in v50? (ie can it be swung?)
While I know LT tends to be pretty buggy, could ask how that one's handled coding-wise

[snow cairn]

poorly iirc

the hammer was the cause of many issues last i remember and still doesnt work fully

[rich panther]

Oh lmao

I take it LT's had a bumpy ride for v50 so far?

[midnight stirrup]

LT has been working just fine always tbh not sure why people complain so much on that mod

[lean plover]

it can but i couldn't figure out why my side didnt work lol

[supple shoal]

Can you not check the code for the original mod and see what's missing?

VanillaContentExpansion also has a few weapons included

[oak jasper]

i think that would require having the asset bundle first

[supple shoal]

Xu has the asset bundle as far as I'm aware which is how they were able to port it

Lol

[lean plover]

There's no code in LE mods

It was a setting built into LE, which is debately good

[supple shoal]

Ahhhh

[lean plover]

update uploaded

[delicate wraith]

Weapon update?

[lean plover]

Yes actually

[strange radish]

hell to the fucking yeah baby

[somber grail]

wait-

with the new update I can specificy what scrap spawns on a specfic moon?

like

Rend:20?

[strange radish]

does the brick break after making contact with an enemy? and how much damage does it do?

[somber grail]

also I can't throw the brick-

But it might be due to me spawning it in via imperium

[lean plover]

press q

i forgot to add a tooltip saying its q

[somber grail]

OH okay

but yeah I can make scrap spawn in a specific moon now?

[lean plover]

yes

[somber grail]

epic-

[azure saffron]

Anvil is such a meme scrap lol

My fellow crewmember was tag teaming with it all the way from interior to ship to collect it 😆

[somber grail]

fr fr-

[somber grail]

Thoughts on this spawn weight for fancy paintings?

Fancy Painting: Auralis:10, Orion:12, Solace:3, Artifice:21, Dine:12, Titan:11, Rend:19 (a third of OG painting spawn weight)

I have a few more ideas in terms of spawn weight-

With the wine bottle being like a fourth or third of the golden cup-

not sure about the other scrap but mostly it might be a third of the OG scrap it's based on -

like libary lamp being rarer than fancy lamp-

Same goes to broken engine-

but I might rever it being a half and instead be third of their spawn since they spawn mostly rare the paintings -

but I'm gonna focus on doing the other scrap first before I go on about changing more of their spawn weights-

[delicate maple]

is brick damage configurable? askin for a friend that looks, sounds, and acts exactly like me.

[lean plover]

not for next weekend

well

until next weekend

[somber grail]

Ngl I'm glad I asked you about specficing spawn weights on moons and ngl the scrap fits/flows much better now-

[lean plover]

si

lovely

[delicate wraith]

Any chance for the other weapons too?🥺

[lean plover]

ion

[somber grail]

Hey should I be evil and make the vent and garbage bag be similar in weight to metal scrap sheet?

[azure saffron]

Yes :)
Garbage equals garbage

[somber grail]

exactly-

lol

[somber grail]

Vent and Garbage Bag: Triskelion:25, Orion:15, Adamance:16, Offense:65, Assurance:23, Experimentation:88, Embrion:100, Vow:16, March:83

hehehehe

[woven mist]

Embrion 100 is perfect

[somber grail]

that's just basically the weight of scrap sheets -

lol

[azure saffron]

Embrion 😭

Whaaaa

[somber grail]

like no joke

[azure saffron]

Ain't no way

[somber grail]

check LLL-

[somber grail]

Should I set the engine to be a third of the weight of a normal engine?

[somber grail]

idk if it's balanced or not-

Broken Engine: Adamance:10, Offense:27, Assurance:13, Experimentation:30, Embrion:27, Vow:31, March:14, Artifice:10, Dine:3, Titan:8, Rend:1 (third of the weight of a normal engine)

[digital prawn]

I mean that totally depends on all the other rarities you have for each of these moons

[somber grail]

yeah makes sense I feel cause in early moons it's sorta common but later moons are much rarer due to other loot being much more in terms of price-

Like oh let's say bell or 2 and a lamp is gonna be more but won't why a lot-

guess it works

especially since higher ranking moons would have more monsters-

or simply be much harder-

but honestly I'm not sure, I'm just trying to make spawns make sense

like wine and fancy paintings spawning on moons where golden cups and normal paintings spawn on

like here is my config not including me disabling the spawn of the melee weapons that don't work yet

And the brick having a weight of 5:

Fancy Painting: Auralis:10, Orion:12, Solace:3, Artifice:21, Dine:12, Titan:11, Rend:19 (a third of OG painting spawn weight)

Wine: Auralis:18, Orion:14, Solace:8, Artifice:28, Dine:18, Titan:14, Rend:12 (a 1/ 2 of golden cup spawns)

Vent and Garbage Bag: Triskelion:25, Orion:15, Adamance:16, Offense:65, Assurance:23, Experimentation:88, Embrion:100, Vow:16, March:83 (Same as metal sheet aka Garbage is garbage-)

Wheel: Experimentation:32, Vow:17, Assurance:19, Adamance:12 (Same as Steering Wheel)

Broken Engine: Adamance:10, Offense:27, Assurance:13, Experimentation:30, Embrion:27, Vow:31, March:14, Artifice:10, Dine:3, Titan:8, Rend:1 (third of the weight of a normal engine)

[somber grail]

but honestly Idk what else to do most of the scrap

besides making the squeaky toy have the same chance as a whoopie cushin or airhorn-

And the screw being half or third of the bolts-

but honestly at this point I might take a breather cause I did a shit ton of math and check what spawns on what moon-

So I'm gonna wait or take a break before tweaking more shit

So if anyone wants to give me some ideas or tweak it to be better let me know-

[snow cairn]

me patiently waiting for the time i can beat hoarding bugs to death with a bat

[snow cairn]

i call them lootbugs from deep rock galactic out of habit and on public lobbys in vanilla when i say loot bug you can tell who plays deep rock

[strange radish]

you can throw a brick at them now 🔥

[snow cairn]

true true, but i do miss the silly 3 damage axe and 0 damage plunger

[twilit grove]

Hey @lean plover, small question, how hard (how much efford/time) is converting 12 scrap items from LE to LLL?

[lean plover]

A good hour or two if u dont know what you're doing, not including time for not knowing how to do stuff like configs

[twilit grove]

ok, this will hurt :,]

thx

[lean plover]

Lol

Good luck

[twilit grove]

I'll try to port these 12 items

[lean plover]

Do you have the Unity project?

[twilit grove]

yeah, I think

It's via creative content creator, right?

[lean plover]

Well yeah but you need the Unity project of the mod itself

[twilit grove]

oh...

[lean plover]

If you look at the steps you first need to make an asset rip project, then send the files of the mod's Unity project into the asset rip and so on

Otherwise if u do it manually could take days

[twilit grove]

I see (I don't understand, but well... I'll try)

[lean plover]

Lol, basically you shouldn't do it if u don't have the mod's Unity project

Cuz then u won't have the exact settings and you'll need to remake em

[twilit grove]

kk

thanks

[spice ibex]

wait i so is this LLL or LL now @lean plover

[lean plover]

LLL

[midnight mica]

I feel cheated, the brick cannot be thrown. 😦

I went to Embrion, faced 30 Old Birds.

[lean plover]

press q

[midnight mica]

And my reward was a brick that I can't throw at Monty.

[midnight mica]

Okay, I have to put that command on my Steam Deck.

[lean plover]

ah right forgot you a stream deck user

i used input utils so u should be able to map it to something whatever u want

[midnight mica]

Well, I can put the letter q on one of the buttons.

I have too many buttons. XD

[lean plover]

ye whether u wanna do q or whatever key bind you want

u should be able to do whatever

[midnight mica]

I mean, I can do it from the options that Steam offers.

[lean plover]

i worked hard to make it rebindable just be grateful

[midnight mica]

No.

[lean plover]

so mean

what happened to being nice and helping xu oput

out

[midnight mica]

I'm just going to be grateful that now I can throw bricks, thank you for your incredible dedication. 🙏

Oh, damn, pense que era infinito.

Infinite*

Hahaha, the translator didn't translate the phrase for me. XD

It's karma.

[dreamy ridge]

I could throw bricks but I'm not from Kent so I'll suffer a range penalty

Still love its an option xD does it actually do damage?

[lean plover]

Ye

[dreamy ridge]

How much? :o

[lean plover]

2

One shots a yipee

[midnight stirrup]

pretty sure most people say lootbug and dont play deep rock

[snow cairn]

probably

[strange radish]

fucking hilarious

[dreamy ridge]

LMAO

[delicate maple]

suggestions for the Anvil (original, right?)

1. needs a more impacting sound
2. give it the shaking effect that a dropped jetpack makes

[inland estuary]

which of the new scrap weapons deal 2 damage and which deal 1 damage same as shovel?

[frank hamlet]

Does It @lean plover?

[lean plover]

brick is the only damage dealer rn

[delicate maple]

https://tenor.com/view/hoopla-spongebob-brick-thats-a-lotta-hoopla-lying-down-gif-14529756161893681751

[somber grail]

Some reason immersive scrap items aren't spawning-

I feel it might have something to do with a mod I have-

[lean plover]

?

[somber grail]

idk, probably due to me setting them to spawn on specific moons and maybe doing a mistypo idk

but it doesn't matter since I'm remaking the modpack anyway-

but still I don't know why they weren't spawning at all-

is it cause some vanilla moons use Level?

or just using specific moon names aren't working?

[lean plover]

It's LLL, vanilla moons don't use Levsl here

It all should work except the "custom" keyword

[somber grail]

Yeah then idk why it's not working for me-

Maybe it's due to it being like:

"Vow:12, March:13"

With it having a space between them

[somber grail]

okay did some testing and yea-

Putting moon names and stuff doesn't work at all-

[lean plover]

Uh that's worked for other people

U have a mod incompat somewhere

[somber grail]

that's what I suspected-

okay so far

VEGA and General Improvements I disabled and it's still not working

I'm just confused as you are

I just don't get what mod would be conflicting with immersivescraps-

I would assume it's the new LLL version 1.2.2 but it's happening with 1.2.1 as well-

[midnight stirrup]

whats wrong with custom? isnt that what default value is?

[lean plover]

LLL's custom thing rn doesnt work for enemies, not sure about items

[midnight stirrup]

i see so thats why giantspecimen never are seen on custom moons

[lean plover]

yep, but its on LL now so you should be able to

[midnight stirrup]

do i need to regen config maybe?

[lean plover]

yes

cuz i use modded for LL

not custom

its weird ik

[midnight stirrup]

i just looked back because i did mention it never spawned on custom moons a couple weeks ago

[somber grail]

does that mean-

Experimentation should be experimentationlevel?

or it's just hoping Immserive scraps isn't broken for me

[inland estuary]

the rubber chicken squeaky toy doesn't appear to attract dogs when you pull it out by hovering over it in your inventory like a rubber ducky does 😦

[snow cairn]

@lean plover this is the realest shit ive ever seen can we please get this

[lean plover]

Wut

[snow cairn]

rubber chicken should alert nearby enemies when being pulled out

[rich panther]

Wait you mean to say I can have fill my inventory with chickens, swap between them repeatedly and annoy my friends but not annoy the dog? Sick

[cedar swallow]

man i just want the rubber chicken, wish the config would allow you to disable the rest of the items

[lean plover]

it does?

[cedar swallow]

how? i only see configs for weight

[delicate wraith]

If you set the weight to 0 the item won't spawn. It's spawn weight not carry weight

[cedar swallow]

ohhh got it

i was a bit confused, thanks for the clarification

both vanilla and custom right?

[delicate wraith]

Yup, unless you want the scrap only on vanilla or custom moons

[cedar swallow]

ok, thanks a lot @delicate wraith !

[dreamy ridge]

watching the hoarding bug

take my fucking anvil

and say "YIPPIIE"

is traumatizing

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-sad-crying-rain-gif-3399120

[lean plover]

LOL

spent an hour transporting it forthe yippee to take it

[midnight stirrup]

Are u guys walking with the anvil?

[snow cairn]

just had a crazy thought, what if you could drop the anvil on other players to kill them like the ladder?

[somber grail]

When I get home I might try to play with this mod again

But still idk why specifically stating what moons spawn what doesn't work

[supple shoal]

And ofc they aren't penalized either the little shits lmao

[dreamy ridge]

nah I spam drop and pick up

[dreamy ridge]

IKR

[rustic lynx]

are you supposed to be able to swing the axe and baseball bat?

bc i cant

[woven mist]

I believe the only weapon right now is the brick which you can throw. The others will be later.

[rustic lynx]

ok

[somber grail]

yeah setting specific planets does not work with this mod for some reason-

[lean plover]

sometime in the next couple days i'll do a bug fix update that should fix the shovels etc

[somber grail]

Epic

[wraith marsh]

problem with new LLL update

[lean plover]

yeah ik

i dont know if newest LLL update is stable enough for me to update this mod lol

theres no fix like terminal formatter afaik

[snow cairn]

its so over

[trail ledge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TestAccount666/LethalLevelLoaderCompanyFixer/

[supple shoal]

It's stable enough and even provides performance improvements over 1.2.2, I'm sure Batby is gonna hotfix the company asap

[delicate maple]

or break it somewhere between arrival and departure

[supple shoal]

lol nah 3rd time's the charm as they say so 3rd fix will fix it fr

[delicate maple]

[safe ether]

can you stop

[supple shoal]

Apologies I edited the message for you ^^ I do think 1.2.3 is stable enough for Xu to update the mod though. I added TestAccount's fix until you get the free time to hotfix things. I typed that message right after I woke up so the way I worded that was my own fault v.v

I'm trying to avoid being too pre-emptive with things. I know Zuri and Lyra have done it enough already, and I don't wanna follow their pattern

@lean plover btw I should ask, what scraps will be broken til you update? I wanna guess the brick?

Cus I know they still spawn

[lean plover]

Idk, it's probably broken config

[supple shoal]

Ohhhh maybe

[sharp quartz]

routing is still borked? LOL

I installed AutoCompanyBuilding, can't be bothered at this point

[supple shoal]

You can't leave the company unless you use TestAccount's mod atm

routing is fixed

[sharp quartz]

wait really?

[supple shoal]

different issue

Yeah

[sharp quartz]

so it's completely broken rn

fucking kidding me

[supple shoal]

No you can route and land just fine

You just can't leave

lol

[sharp quartz]

that's broken lol

[supple shoal]

That's why TestAccount updated his mod til Batby hotfixes it

XD

[copper patrol]

When will it be possible to fight with a baseball bat and an axe?

[lean plover]

soon maybe

[midnight stirrup]

not sure if this is from this mod but maybe?

[lean plover]

ye it is

i havent updated it yet

[viscid valley]

does the shopping cart work?

[somber grail]

that's from lethal upgrades

[viscid valley]

no I mean from this mod lol

[trail ledge]

Shopping cart is from lategame upgrades

[viscid valley]

no

there is one from this game

this mod

i mean

[snow cairn]

me spending 40 minutes trying to figure out why the custom scrap have stopped spawning only to come to the conclusion "its so over"

[snow cairn]

@lean plover is mod just brokey for the time being or is there some solution? with a previous config none of the scrap spawnned and after trying to regen another theres just no config

[lean plover]

its broken rn

will fix when ive got time

[snow cairn]

aight ty

[wraith marsh]

you can downgrade LLL to 1.2.2 until Immersive Scraps updates to support LLL 1.2.3

just make sure to also downgrade every other mod which already updated to LLL 1.2.3 and dont support LLL 1.2.2 anymore

[supple shoal]

I suggest Temporarily disabling ImmersiveScrap for now

Xu is planning to update it when they have some free time

[earnest hinge]

If you really want your scrap to spawn you're gonna need to use Lethal Quantities and get in there and add the weights yourself LOL

I don't recommend since it's so painstaking

[supple shoal]

Tbf the scraps will still spawn but just with a really fucky chance lol

cus the config is dead

[earnest hinge]

really? idk whenever I pulled up LQ for the first time none of the moons wanted to register any of the immersive scraps into the scrap spawns

[supple shoal]

Interesting cus I know some did spawn for me they were just really rare

probably all like a .1% chance or smth

[earnest hinge]

maybe it's invisible to LQ or smthn then lmao

[supple shoal]

Probably the mod is borked atm

Xu recommended to disable it til an update is pushed

[earnest hinge]

all I know is that I never saw any of the scraps until I used LQ to add em to the moons

[earnest hinge]

but mah green lamp </3

excited for the update since it means baseball bat combat

[wraith marsh]

wait. LQ bypasses the problem? didnt Immersive Scrap fail during initialisation?

[supple shoal]

It's the config that is broken

[warped basin]

Is there any weapons included in this scrap pack?

I swear there was a fire axe but it couldn't be swung and I was incredibly disappointed by that

[supple shoal]

so LQ will bypass it cus it basically replaces the config essentially lol

[earnest hinge]

LQ technically can bypass the problem, but you'll need to add every individual scrap to every moon and set their weights yourself

and there's A LOT to add-

[wraith marsh]

thats not a problem. i already did this

[earnest hinge]

yeah same LMAO

worth it, I like the scrap :3

[warped basin]

I also remember a plunger and a big wrench being weapons

But when I found both they weren't usable

Maybe it was another pack?

[earnest hinge]

I'm pretty sure this will be changed whenever the mod gets updated

[lean plover]

porting the weapons means i'd have to rewrite a lot of code for em, i just dont have the time or money to put into making the weapon's work, ill give it a try later maaybe

[earnest hinge]

appreciate the consideration anyhow <3

[warped basin]

🎉

Looking forward to it

Is there any other alternative pack you recommend that has a lot of weapons mixed in as usable scrap?

[lean plover]

not any that i know of

[warped basin]

I want more stuff like the yield and stop sign

Awwww

[lean plover]

there's also supposed to be a flashlight in this mod too lol

though that one never got ported over completely

[supple shoal]

👀

[earnest hinge]

👁️

[supple shoal]

I mean you shouldn't feel bad, the weapon from Scoopy's Mod got broken with V50 and doesn't spawn anymore lol

I ended up removing Scoopy's from my pack cus it was broken in quite a few ways

I'm amazed Dantor's works as well as it does

[narrow flower]

Does someone has a good balanced ImmersiveScrap Config for most moons and could share it? Would like to compare it with mine to create a good balance to play with

[wraith marsh]

what is "good balanced" for you? vanilla like, ez life, hardcore, ...

[narrow flower]

Good balanced like the same scrap object won't appear on every new moon. A possible good rotation between every scrap to spawn would be great. I already put the weapons to 1 so they are a rare spawn. It feels like if all stay at 20 the scrap spawns to often, to be special

[earnest hinge]

I can show what I put in LQ

@narrow flower Aquatis

Adamance

Artifice

Rend

these are just some examples of how I set up the spawns

which it boils down to just setting it up like how vanilla does it, huge pool of scrap, throwing some in specific moons so you'd most likely find them there as for other moons you just wont find it there at all

[narrow flower]

Thats nice will check them out later, thanks :)

[lean plover]

new update out

didnt really change anything, but it worked for me on newest LLL so

:shrug

[earnest hinge]

Oh??

worked as in the scrap spawns are actually set automatically by the mod?

[lean plover]

ye

[earnest hinge]

sweet!

[muted berry]

starting the game, the console says this immediately after loading immersive scraps:

[Error  : Unity Log] MissingMethodException: Method not found: void LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundleLoader.AddOnExtendedModLoadedListener(System.Action`1<LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedMod>,string,string)``` is there a known fix to that?

[lean plover]

hmm

thought i fixed it, weird

gimme a second to redo the fix ig

[muted berry]

I redownloaded, will try it again

I see you updated it a few hours ago

this version I used was from yesterday

[lean plover]

oh lol

[muted berry]

hmm

I think it works now, can't find any red text regarding immersive scraps

[lean plover]

oh nice

[somber grail]

yeah this mod doesn't work anymore for me-

Config doesn't work nor do they spawn now-

even downloaded the new update too for it

[lean plover]

show console

if theres no errors then it works

[somber grail]

ah okay

here

[Error : Unity Log] Exception: Method static System.Reflection.MethodBase LethalLevelLoaderCompanyFixer.Patches.EventPatchesPatch::TargetMethod() returned an unexpected result: null
Stack trace:
HarmonyLib.PatchClassProcessor.RunMethod[S,T] (T defaultIfNotExisting, T defaultIfFailing, System.Func2[T,TResult] failOnResult, System.Object[] parameters) (at <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_010D) Rethrow as HarmonyException: Patching exception in method static System.Reflection.MethodBase LethalLevelLoaderCompanyFixer.Patches.EventPatchesPatch::TargetMethod() HarmonyLib.PatchClassProcessor.ReportException (System.Exception exception, System.Reflection.MethodBase original) (at <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_0045) HarmonyLib.PatchClassProcessor.Patch () (at <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_0095) HarmonyLib.Harmony.<PatchAll>b__11_0 (System.Type type) (at <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_0007) HarmonyLib.CollectionExtensions.Do[T] (System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable1[T] sequence, System.Action`1[T] action) (at <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_0014)
HarmonyLib.Harmony.PatchAll (System.Reflection.Assembly assembly) (at <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_0006)
HarmonyLib.Harmony.PatchAll () (at <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_001B)
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[lean plover]

looks good to me

thats not my error lol

LethalLevelLoaderCompanyFixer

[somber grail]

what;s worse if I try to use LLL 1.2.2 it won't gen the immersive scrap config-

[lean plover]

yeah i kept being asked to update so

:shrug

[somber grail]

go figure even with 1.2.2 and the config generated after using the new one it won't spawn at all-

[lean plover]

thats just ur luck

[somber grail]

even weirder I made a seperate profile for this-

So gonna quick clean up chached mods and see if that fixes it -

[lean plover]

also it's supposed to actually say a bunch of stuff if the items do get config'd right

so u might really have a mod conflict

this is supposed to be spammedl ike 40 times

after my mod loads

[somber grail]

then idk what's conflciting cause the test modpack has the bare minuim-

[lean plover]

hmm

ill have to check into it more later

i cant rn dont got time

but im not sure what would cause this

[somber grail]

yeah even I'm confused-

I assume the LLL update broke it and using previous update won't work no more-

or the curse of making this mod passed on to you- idk at this point lol

[lean plover]

just downgrade immersive scrap too lol

[somber grail]

okay but first I'm gonna test with immersive scraps downgraded then LLL-

news-

immersive scraps only works with LLL 1.2.2 but has to be 1.0.2 of immersive scraps

I'm just not gonna use immersive scraps at this point ngl my brain is too tired to use it or try to tweak it -

Hopefully when LLL updates to 1.2.4 it get's fixed

[lean plover]

#1241786100201160784

[severe steeple]

Does the mod even work? 0 new scrap found in the 4 hours game session

[trail ledge]

yeah it works saw some last night, want version of the mod and what version of lll you using?

[severe steeple]

1.0.3 mod and 1.2.4 LLL

[trail ledge]

strange

what moons you go to

[severe steeple]

Vanilla

[trail ledge]

hmmm

may have to wait for a patch for 1.2.4

that may be it

[severe steeple]

Gotta wait for it then

[trail ledge]

vanilla content expansion and more scraps are good alternates

both work

[supple shoal]

Vanilla content expansion does have some bugged scraps though

That prevent leaving a lobby and won't delete from the ship when failing the quota

I just dunno which all of them do it

[trail ledge]

Will test later

Will spawn then in latet

[lean plover]

pushed the update

with the weapons

and fixed config

[earnest hinge]

OOOOOO

👀

[somber grail]

[earnest hinge]

FINALLY

it showed up on r2

🙏

[earnest hinge]

YOU CAN JUST-

[lean plover]

yeah lol

[earnest hinge]

thank god I made bricks one of the rarer scraps accidentally 😭

[royal wadi]

That’s one mighty throwing arm

[earnest hinge]

anyways that aside yeah the weapons work wonderfully :)

now my friends can shut up about the fact they can't swing an axe 😭

[earnest hinge]

noticed that they deal double the damage of a shovel 👁️

even the plunger LOL

[lean plover]

Yep

[royal wadi]

The extra damage the plunger deals is purely psychic

Mentally scarring

[earnest hinge]

entirely the damage from the strength of a man insane enough to wield it

[spice ibex]

i can finally chop xu's own giants with their own work(port) axe

[lean plover]

Don't do dat

That's mean

[spice ibex]

aight then ill just spawn 100 yippees with axe while using symbiosis mod
keeping my hands clean

tho theres gonna be infighting among the yippes....

[snow cairn]

iirc the axe was meant to deal roughly 3 damage or so, the baseball bat dealing 2 and the plunger dealing 1 like the shovel in the original immersive scrap mod
How much damage does each weapon do now?

[spice ibex]

its all flat 2 currently

[sharp quartz]

3 damage seems way broken

Balancing wise lol

[earnest hinge]

and not the bomb brick?

that thing just one shots a dog LOL

although tbf it's like kinda hard to do that sometimes since the radius and fall off damage is harsh

small radius, and extreme falloff

[spice ibex]

well, thats why there are weight and rarity config

[earnest hinge]

right!

[lean plover]

it doesnt

and the radius is fairly big, u can throw it pretty far lol

[spice ibex]

the dog prolly got bit by some baboon before the brick

[delicate maple]

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-drum-playing-drum-gif-12638875

[strange radish]

THE BRICK EXPLODES??

[delicate maple]

nah. just the air combusting

[earnest hinge]

threw it too hard myb

you can visibly see me figure out how to throw it LMAO

[strange radish]

literally the brick doing anything else would've made more sense wtf 😭

[strange radish]

LMAO}

[delicate maple]

https://tenor.com/view/getlit-blazekik-kik-meme-gif4kik-gif-1778728320613035878

[earnest hinge]

I HEARD YOU COULD THROW IT BUT LIKE I NEVER KNEW HOW THAT WORKED

[lean plover]

??????????????????????

i literally

told u about this

when i released

[earnest hinge]

thought it was broken 😭

[lean plover]

it

fucking idiot

[earnest hinge]

LOL?

[lean plover]

you ASKED ME FOR THIS

[strange radish]

you told me you could throw em not that they exploded

[lean plover]

i told you they do what the gif did

cmoon

post that gif

i dare you

[strange radish]

you're a fucking idiot xu 😭

[lean plover]

you're the idiot

post the gif

[strange radish]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/451580047959261184/1116303047296024667/youtube-video-gif.gif

this?

[lean plover]

no

its uhh

whatever generic keeps spamming

[strange radish]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1129971919555412019/1149511078972231810/IMG_4111.gif

[lean plover]

that little guy who bounces back and forth

[strange radish]

this?

[lean plover]

yeah

but i think there was a brick

to him

it was a gif with an exploding brick anyway

and i said i'd do an exploding brick

[strange radish]

i remember none of that lmao

[lean plover]

brick's been out for like a couple weeks

ur fault for not knowing when i told u

[strange radish]

it doesn't bother me cuz ion even use this mod but i'm just wondering why you made it explode

[lean plover]

cuz

[strange radish]

yeah i don't use this mod bestie, sorry

[lean plover]

why not

[lean plover]

u literally asked me to add it lmao

[woven mist]

Now we need to be able to do this with the brick

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-brick-tennis-brick-cat-throwing-brick-gif-2447827467746304024

[strange radish]

yeah but this uses LLL so i never use it

[earnest hinge]

what's wrong with LLL

[supple shoal]

Nothing lol

[strange radish]

i just don't want it unless I'm using interiors or moons

i have nothing against it lmao

[supple shoal]

I originally started using LLL because I added WeatherTweaks by @charred mirage to my pack, Interiors and Moons came after that

XD

[strange radish]

just wouldn't include it in my modpack unless I have 2 or 3 mods that justify it since I like to keep my modpacks relatively small

[earnest hinge]

fair

[strange radish]

oh did weather tweaks require LLL before?

[supple shoal]

It always has yeah

Well

Not anymore

But it did

[lean plover]

weather tweaks started out kinda as a fix to LLL's horrible weather desyncs

[strange radish]

ye I remember that

[supple shoal]

It stopped after V50 dropped cus he updated it to support vanilla V50 to fix Weather desyncs before LLL updated

[strange radish]

that period of time was... rough for LLL

i think it was the last time I tried actually playing w custom moons and interiors since desyncs were horribly common

it's p much fixed now, right?

[supple shoal]

Yeah LLL has the Weather desync issues fixed natively now

[strange radish]

nicee

[supple shoal]

But WeatherTweaks is still nice to have

Vanilla weather rng is just so meh

[earnest hinge]

I'm not a moon hoarder but like so far for the few moons I use I haven't had much of any issues

[strange radish]

i use weather tweaks currently yeah

used beta for a while but then I got some weird weather desyncs on it for some reason

so i switched to just weather tweaks

[earnest hinge]

vanilla weather is just kinda whatever sometimes, BetaTweaks makes it far more interesting combined with weather multiplier

[strange radish]

but now every time I go to a moon it's eclipsed

[supple shoal]

I haven't had any issues with the Beta one

[strange radish]

so i might just go back to beta

[supple shoal]

The only time I got weather desyncs in my group for some reason

is when having AlwaysHearActiveWalkies in my pack

[strange radish]

it seems to bypass my weather configs from LCV cuz I dialed eclipsed down a ton thru it

[supple shoal]

it would cause people to get weather desyncs

and cause other problems

Why? Idk but it did

[strange radish]

wacky asf

[earnest hinge]

this mod annoys the hell out of me as host because I pick up the walkie once and now it acts like I always have it equipped

[supple shoal]

Yeah I don't recommend using it anymore

[strange radish]

also i did not ask you for an explosion I only asked to make it throwable

i still think it's funny though don't get your panties in a twist

[supple shoal]

It has bugs and the dev can't really fix them because they don't play LC anymore

[earnest hinge]

aw </3

[strange radish]

it just makes 0 sense 😭

[supple shoal]

Maybe they'll return eventually and fix it but for now yeah

I'd remove it

[strange radish]

yeah I had some issues in the past w it

[lean plover]

omg you dont have to be all about making sense, its a throwable brick that deals 1 damage and easily kills the player by self destruct, and dont tell me what to do, ill twist my panties if i want to

[strange radish]

honestly i don't see why always hear active walkies isn't a vanilla thing

[supple shoal]

I mean

[strange radish]

mimimi panty twisterrrr

[earnest hinge]

honestly

[supple shoal]

I'm sure @tawny sundial could probably implement a fixed version of it into LethalFixes

If he wanted to

[earnest hinge]

👁️

[strange radish]

i'll focus on the areas I wanna focus on and you can cry all you want ♥️

[strange radish]

isn't it oriented more towards bugfixes though?

[supple shoal]

Cus it should be a vanilla thing

[strange radish]

might be wrong though cuz i haven't looked much into it

[supple shoal]

Yeah but he also adds features missing from vanilla as well

[strange radish]

yeah 100%

[strange radish]

ooo that's cool

[supple shoal]

Like he implemented a unique version of VoiceHud for example

[earnest hinge]

the voice activity indicator being up is great

ye!

[supple shoal]

mhm

[strange radish]

one thing i've been wondering abt lethalfixes is if it also adds a fix similar to PathFindingLagFix

[tawny sundial]

nah

[strange radish]

ok cool i can keep that then heheh

[earnest hinge]

I never seen it anywhere in the thread so I kept it in case

[tawny sundial]

I actually noticed that when playing last night lol

[earnest hinge]

YEAH

[supple shoal]

But yeah I can very much see you implementing a fixed version of AlwaysHearActiveWalkies into your mod

If you feel like looking into it

Cus that mod is unfortunately broken in so many ways

x.x

[celest arrow]

The only time that wasn't rough for LLL was the 1.0.7. Everything after is a rollercoaster of one desync or game locking bug after another lol

[tawny sundial]

If I did it'd definitely be a config option like the inverse teleport spike trap safety is

[supple shoal]

But it is a feature that should be vanilla

[supple shoal]

Ye

[earnest hinge]

^^^

[supple shoal]

That would be perfect

[earnest hinge]

perfectly okay with that

also, is it just me or are people's voice through a walkie a little too loud?

[supple shoal]

Not for me

You just have to adjust their volume sometimes in game, for me once I adjust volumes it balances out

It means they're likely a bit too loud when actually speaking too if they're too loud over the walkie

[earnest hinge]

hm, I wonder if it's related to me loading up a save again and everybody's voice suddenly gets much louder

[supple shoal]

Possibly

[earnest hinge]

that applies to walkies too?

[supple shoal]

Yeah

[earnest hinge]

I need to use em more, definitely not picking up on that as of now

[strange radish]

ye, i think it's good now though

[strange radish]

oh? like the push to talk thingy?

[tawny sundial]

well i think the always on walkie would be caused by this https://i.1a3.uk/1716390673.png

[supple shoal]

Yeah you can see your voice indicator when speaking now rather than just when using PTT

[strange radish]

oh that's really neat

[tawny sundial]

cuz it returns false so it'd never disable the walkie talkie after you use it once

[strange radish]

ye I had that happen a few months back

[supple shoal]

I like it more than I did the actual VoiceHud mod lol, it feels a lot more native because it doesn't do those small flashes constantly

[earnest hinge]

does this even happen to clients?

cuz I never had anyone mention that they could hear people through a walkie even though they didn't have one

[supple shoal]

That explains why if I had a walkie off I could always hear people globally speaking at a really low volume with that mod

I'd love to know why it also causes desyncs though, cus it did cause weather desync issues

[earnest hinge]

It did??

[supple shoal]

For my group yes

[earnest hinge]

what a weird mod to cause an issue like that 😭

[supple shoal]

If we had it installed sometimes clients would have the Weather desynced

But after removing it it hasn't happened since

[earnest hinge]

and thats not even fixed by weathertweaks?

[supple shoal]

Nope

Happened even with WeatherTweaks installed, it was probably breaking a transpiler or smth if I had to guess

[earnest hinge]

goodbye alwayshearwalkies 😔

[wild kindle]

https://github.com/n33kos/AlwaysHearActiveWalkie/issues try posting an issue and see if he'll respond

[trail ledge]

what happened?

[earnest hinge]

goodbye as in I'm removing it from my modpack

it's bug been bothering me too much

[trail ledge]

I mean what bug lol

I assumed it had one

[earnest hinge]

idk if it happens to clients but whenever you're the host and pick up a walkie, for the rest of the game, even in death, the game will think you have an active walkie in your inventory and you'll always hear anyone that speaks through a walkie

[trail ledge]

never seen that BUT I havent used a walkie in ages

we either had headsets or lethal phones

[earnest hinge]

headsets? unless you mean like a discord call or smthn I never heard of that

[trail ledge]

AC

[earnest hinge]

lethal phones is smthn I kinda wanna try sometime

[trail ledge]

head slot walkies

[earnest hinge]

ah that makes sense

never used AC

[trail ledge]

lethal phones is broken atm

[earnest hinge]

aw

[trail ledge]

it at base works but under the hood breaks modded ai

[earnest hinge]

not like it matters too much, just use reserved walkie slot 👍

[trail ledge]

dont use the reserved slots but when I make a non AC version of my pack when releasing I will

we still just use headsets or no walkies at all

[earnest hinge]

I only use the flashlight and walkie slots

and a 5th normal slot

no weapon or utility slots

[sharp quartz]

I was testing a bunch of mods and found that I kept getting garbage over and over. Not sure if it's just bad RNG or something. Spawn weights should all be the same

[lean plover]

Uhhh.... rngesus?

They're 100% cirrecy

Correct

[delicate maple]

what moon is this?

[sharp quartz]

Experimentation

[sharp quartz]

that'd be my guess lol

[delicate maple]

hmm, dunno then. i have a similar problem but can only reproduce it on wesley's moons. whenever i leave the game and come back to the save, whether just a rejoin or a game reboot, a small handful of scraps will be all i find on them.

tons of groan tubes, tons of cats, and a sprinkle of the custom scraps pertaining to the moons

[sharp quartz]

I have a decent chunk of custom interiors but I don't use any custom moons other than Atlas Abyss

[somber grail]

yeah I still can't use specific moons still in the config-

[lean plover]

Uhh show logs

Pretty sure u can

[somber grail]

k let me try on a seperate profile-

But gotta clean chache incase an old version is causing issues-

[Error :LethalLevelLoader] Removed: 31 SpawnableItemWithRarities From CurrentLevel: Experimentation Due To Invalid Properties To Prevent Errors.

Found it

but it might be due to impreium

I'll remove and see if that does it

[lean plover]

Dunno looks like my scrap registered properly

[somber grail]

I set it on experimentation really high-

[lean plover]

How high

[somber grail]

might be due to it being very high I assume-

Experimentation:10000

yeah i feel it might be that as I'm testing it

[lean plover]

Yeah dunno that didn't apply from what I'm seeing in logs

No wait it did say it registered

So idk

[somber grail]

wait-

I set alchol to 1000-

it's reading it seperate and keeping the OG spawn weight-

It's working-

but somehow it's reading it wrong-

making it not spawn in at all-

that's my theory at least-

but idk if it's just how LLL works-

but I have to get your opinion on it

[lean plover]

Hmm

[somber grail]

?

[lean plover]

That's weird

You sure u saves the config?

[somber grail]

I did,

It says Experimentation:10000

[lean plover]

Hmmm

I'll look into it later

Try doing 300 and see if it keeps 300

[somber grail]

ah okay gonna try if it's a limit or not

still persists

but it's on start up so I assume it's either like that on start up-

Or it's something else

[lean plover]

Wdym still persists

What still persists

[somber grail]

I'm thinking that it's not setting the weight for the specific moon-

But that's on start up I'm gonna check if it actually spawns in

yeah not working

[charred mirage]

well, no

it was just a side effect

[lean plover]

That's why I said kinda

[charred mirage]

I made it cause I wanted more weather variance

😅

alright

I made the mod a full month before LLL issues tho

[lean plover]

So wheres the variance buddy

[charred mirage]

hehehe

yeah

[lean plover]

Yeah u made it a month before, took me a couple weeks to make meteor shower mhmm

[charred mirage]

I made it in early January

iirc

and the LLL desyncs were a February issue

so, umm

yeah

a month before

[lean plover]

Icic

[somber grail]

I still don't understand why setting a specific moon in the config of Immersive Scraps doesn't work-

[snow cairn]

You can kind of do it in LLL already if you know what you're doing

[exotic girder]

any alternative for a walkie mod now ?

and is walkieUse still usable ? i saw aniema saying to avoid it

[supple shoal]

I think @tawny sundial is looking into integrating a fixed version of AlwaysHearActiveWalkies into LethalFixes so my suggestion is be patient ^^

[exotic girder]

what about walkie use by renegades, no issue related ?

[supple shoal]

I mean I'd use ReservedWalkieSlot instead personally

But that mod works fine

I think Aenemia saw an "issue" with it because it throws an ignorable error on startup

[exotic girder]

i heard some of the reservedSlot mods can cause desync is that fixed ?

[supple shoal]

Yes

[exotic girder]

even for the flashlight one ?

[snow cairn]

usually the desync is caused by mismatching config

other desyncs are a vanilla issue, mainly being flashlights being turned on or off when they arent supposed to be

but i think that was fixed

[supple shoal]

Yeah

[exotic girder]

good to know, any knew shotgun fix mod recently btw? didn't play for 2month

[snow cairn]

what fix are you looking for? hitreg or despawning?

[exotic girder]

both lol

i mean, only if those issue are still in game idk

[snow cairn]

I think for an all in one theres a certain one i cant remember the name of

but i use 2 mods, 1 that allows purchase of shells and shotguns while preventing despawn and the other changing how the shotgun hitreg works

[exotic girder]

could you tell me the name of those?

or the all in one, idk which is more stable

[snow cairn]

HexiBetterShotgunFixed is mod for the shotgun rework giving it a pellet system instead of the vanilla jank hitreg
BuyableShotgunPlus is what allows purchase of shotguns and shells and a despawn fix (i think)

Cant remember how reliable either of these are but i remember them being solid

[exotic girder]

yea i used them back in the days but was thinking that they are outdated now

[exotic girder]

what about ShootableMouthDogs ?

[supple shoal]

Redundant

[supple shoal]

I use them both

Highly recommend

[exotic girder]

do you guys use snatchinBracken?

i don't understand if i should enable Allow Distance Until Auto Kill

[wild kindle]

do the weapons on this mod use the shovels hitbox

[strange radish]

most likely

[earnest hinge]

I think there's something funny going on with the weapons

they do like two hits in one causing instant kills on crew members 😭

[supple shoal]

Custom weapons do double damage

so instead of it taking off 1 hp like the shovel

it takes off 2

[royal wadi]

Team killer self report 💀

[earnest hinge]

No I understand but like, it's like you're smacking them twice with one swing, means that that double damage is going at them twice and kills them instantly

I'm not sure if it only applies to hitting crew members I haven't gotten to test it much on entities just yet

[earnest hinge]

like who hasn't hit their teammate with a weapon at some point 💀

[royal wadi]

I know I’m just playin’lmao

[earnest hinge]

slacking off at the company building yknow

:)

[royal wadi]

I haven’t been lucky enough to find anything but the plunger and I don’t recall having the chance to try it on enemies either

[warped basin]

Missing asset bundle? The emotes seem to work fine though

[lean plover]

emotes?

[warped basin]

Idk why I said emotes, ignore that part

I was sleepy at the time I suppose

[somber grail]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SillySquad/CentralConfig/

found a mod that fixes this mod-

only downside I have to set what weight for each mod not by moon but the scrap itself

[lean plover]

this mod's config isnt broken afaik :p

only custom and vanilla work rn, i know why the rest doesnt work

[somber grail]

yea-

But at least this mod works as a temp fix and easy tweakin

[earnest hinge]

LQ has existed for awhile yknow

although I am interested in CC, idk when I'll give it a try though

[somber grail]

Yeah-

Only issue I'm having RN is scrap being up to 100s of dollars for experimentation for no reason-

But it's mostly rare scrap prices so either the two times I tested I got super lucky

Or it's something else. I'll check when I get home from the mall (which I'm gonna go to in a bit)

Like 9 scrap worth 1000

[earnest hinge]

since you can't do specific moons yet yeah I'd look for an alternative to help

[somber grail]

It works but I'm still confused on the pricing of said scrap-

[earnest hinge]

plus, setting weights on the mod config doesn't entirely let you see how the chance is like for that scrap since weights are different overall, but at least with scrap there's more consistency unlike entities per moon

[earnest hinge]

some scrap pricing kinda confuses me but it's weight to scrap value is what keeps it in line kinda??

because the broken engine is easily worth over 100 and a wine bottle is too

[somber grail]

Yea-

I legit got like an 188 dollar ring on the first day (but as said I didn't get the chance to test more)

[earnest hinge]

probably some balancing I gotta work over on my part in LQ tbh

[earnest hinge]

wait wedding ring?

that's unrelated to the mod then

maybe the scrap value multiplier on the moon was set to 1 instead of 0.4?

[somber grail]

OH SHIT I think that's it!

It's automatically set to 1 for all of them

I remember seeing that

[earnest hinge]

yeah you don't wanna do that 💀

[somber grail]

I assume 0.4 is for all or most moons?

[earnest hinge]

all

unless you want to make a moon much richer in scrap value

[somber grail]

Ah okay still weird it's like that+

But I assume it's an issue of it generating

[earnest hinge]

It'd be an interesting kind of moon to set the value mult to like 5 and put only 5 gold bars that can spawn in a massive facility LOL

idk if that would break something tbh

[somber grail]

Okay yeah I finally fixed the scrap multiplier

Only thing is that I'm not sure about the broken engine having a higher spawn weight on low tier moons but I set it to be not too OP-

Like a weight of 9-

[earnest hinge]

broken engine has such a high value LOL

I should rebalance the scrap spawns on the moons again since I know how much value each ones are

but I'm lazy atm 😭

[somber grail]

oof yeah-

Mostly I just set the engine to be like a 10th of the weight of the normal vanilla engine on each moon-

[earnest hinge]

suitcase too

but tbf

they're like 3x heavier

[earnest hinge]

sounds good yeah

[somber grail]

yea

though I might change painting to how I originally did it as a third of a normal one isntead of half-

but I feel when I add more scrap into the pool of the moons that won't matter-

like only did 6 of them

[earnest hinge]

I think fancy painting is like just a little bit more than the vanilla one

I should list out the scrap values for myself at some point...

[somber grail]

here's what I did/written down for the ones so far-

Broken engine: v-type divided by 10

Jerrycan: same as chem jug

Screwdriver: third of big bolt

Wine bottle: third of golden cup

Fancy Painting: half of normal painting

Car battery: same as steering wheel

[earnest hinge]

will make it easier to see which ones I need to nerf the spawns of

[earnest hinge]

this looks like the way to go about it 👀

[somber grail]

yeah so I might make bucket half or the same as the damn dust pan lamo-

And idk about the tools being the same as flask and the tool box a third of it-

so bucket on spawns on experimentation rn lol

or would when I put it in

oh wait I did-

I just forgot

but I feel the tools (Clamp, Wrench and Hammer) should be the same as flask ngl-)

[dusky igloo]

@lean plover

[Bug]
All weapons use the shovel animation.
weapons like the hammer cannot be aimed or swung correctly.

Possible disable these items as weapons and or add a new weapon swing animation.

[Feature Request]
Config entries for Scrap Weight (lb), Min Value, Max Value.

[supple shoal]

This isn't a bug it worked like this with the original mod too, the only thing that's truly bugged atm is the hammer animation XD

[dusky igloo]

Any one-handed items were not weapons in the original mod. Only the 2h Fire Axe, and the Plunger were weapons. All other one-hand items were not classified as weapons because it would cause this problem. It is only a bug atm in this version as Xu applied the same animation to the One-Hand items.

It needs to be replaced or removed.

[supple shoal]

The only weapons in the mod rn are the Hammer, Plunger, Fire Axe, and Baseball Bat. The Hammer needs to be fixed and excluded yes Xu is aware of this the other 3 are fine and were weapons in the original lol

[earnest hinge]

Nah the Wrench is also a weapon now

but the three, axe, bat, plunger, are all good yeah

[lean plover]

All weapons do use the shovel animation, I aint animating shi lol, I was just too lazy to make the hammer too handed and align it etc

[supple shoal]

Hope you fix it soon XD

[sharp quartz]

I finally got a chance to try out this mod. Friend died from a Bracken trying to get an Anvil out, had to avenge his death, almost died by the charger giant from GiantSpecimens, that one’s a 10/10 scrap lol

I think its default value should be higher though, it was around 250 and with how heavy it is it should be like 500 so everyone kills themselves trying to get it out lol

[earnest hinge]

a value config would be interesting

[rich panther]

Hammer iirc was never a 2h weapon in the original, not to mention current model for it is too small to actually use it as a proper weapon tbh

[lean plover]

Yeah prob

[strange radish]

definitely

i think it might be immersive scraps that causes all loot to just be REALLY high in value

[lean plover]

Is it?

[strange radish]

everytime i've played w these item prizes are off the roof

[earnest hinge]

not all I feel but just some end up being surprisingly high 😭

wine bottle is crazy

[strange radish]

even vanilla items

[earnest hinge]

definitely not a immersive scrap problem if vanilla items are high value

[strange radish]

then i got no idea LMAO

[lean plover]

Uhh meteo multipliers moment?

[strange radish]

nah, i don't use meteo multipliers

only thing I have that could mess with item values is uuuh

[lean plover]

Da fak

[strange radish]

wednesday fix

x

but it's not wednesday

so

[lean plover]

Tf is a Wednesday fix

[lean plover]

??? What yhe hell is double loot Wednesday lmao

[strange radish]

i think i recall like, the game being able to tell what day of the week it is

and having stuff like loot spawns and facility sizes change depending on that

might me tweaking though

[delicate wraith]

Yeah I was wondering, is this an actual thing in the vanilla game?

[strange radish]

i remember something along the lines of double loot wednesdays being a thing

[tired wren]

I feel like double loot Wednesday and half facility Friday is a joke

[strange radish]

OH it was that mod

funny

[strange radish]

maybe sorta probably most likely

[earnest hinge]

LMAO

[sharp quartz]

are you guys aware that the hammer is beyond broken functionally, in terms of being able to take out giants with ease

I know you guys mentioned animation errors, but basically the bat and hammer hits multiple times per swing and can one shot a lot of things

[trail ledge]

thats why I ended up removing it in LQ

[earnest hinge]

that's what I mentioned before too

[lean plover]

Hmm ic

[tired wren]

I would rather have the hammer just not be a weapon since the default animation looks awkward with it

And I'd think the only weapon that should deal extra damage is the Fire Axe

While the other ones do the same as a shovel

[delicate maple]

least it has an animation. look at the wrench 🙂

[trail ledge]

wait does wrench not have an anim?, have tested it after the LLL port

[tired wren]

The brick blowing up is funny but I think it would be more balanced if it just damaged one thing instead of having an AOE

[tired wren]

Psychic blast

[trail ledge]

imma just disable the weapons from this mod lol

[delicate maple]

yea wrench does psychic damage

[tired wren]

Sucks since that's my favorite part of it

[trail ledge]

dam that was my fav modded weapon

it had so much weight behind it

[earnest hinge]

okay but like the plunger, axe, and bat work pretty nicely, it's just those two problem children 😭

actually wait no there's that double swing bug

[trail ledge]

ah good, will prob disable axe as I already have scoopy's fire axe

[trail ledge]

dam

[earnest hinge]

scoopy's fireaxe looks so out of place LOL

[trail ledge]

I only have it on gloom

[earnest hinge]

fair

[trail ledge]

as a rare find since its 4x damage

[lean plover]

what double swing bug

sounds like a vanilla bug if its not one of hte 3 main weapons lol

[earnest hinge]

it's like, in one swing you're actually doing two

[trail ledge]

im pretty sure they do double damage on purpose

[earnest hinge]

I'll properly get footage of it when I play again

[earnest hinge]

nono

they do

and that makes it a total of 4dmg in one swing

which can just instant kill a player or baboon hawk

[trail ledge]

based, just gonna make them rare then XD

[earnest hinge]

it'd be funny to do that if it was a little more consistent of a "bug"

[trail ledge]

still hope its patched along with the other weapons

[earnest hinge]

yeah

[trail ledge]

also hope there is a scrap mod eventually that ads usable scrap

like a gas mask that makes you see better in gas leaks

[somber grail]

Why are all the immersive or cool stuff experiencing bugs?! 😭

[earnest hinge]

they're not gamebreaking tbh, just minor inconviences

[somber grail]

I know but I still don't know why I can't set even specific scrap for certain moons in immersive scrap's configs -

But I think it's me not wanting to use immersive scraps due to stuff not working before in the old version or not wanting to tweak it and just have all that work undone all the time.

[rain cypress]

oh i actually encountered that too where I killed a mask in one hit with the axe, after the fact i did testing and then the fire axe was doing 2x so i dunno why it was i guess ‘doubleswinging’ during the session

[earnest hinge]

You can get around that by using Lethal Quantities

[earnest hinge]

yeah, you can also just hit a wall and audibly hear that you hit it twice

althought I think thats only heard if another player does it, as you cant hear it on your end

[somber grail]

Oh yeah-

but I think it's just me not wanting to configure stuff like that anymore

[earnest hinge]

cant confirm yet

[earnest hinge]

valid

[somber grail]

Yeah but I do have a nice small modpack and I wanna take a break or not tweak too much.

As I did before and it wasn't fun

Especially with mods that broke shit in 150 or so modpack

So 60 is better maintainable

[earnest hinge]

so far the things I've done to make sure LQ doesn't break anything is just avoiding touching map size multiplier and entity specific configuration (not to be confused with entity spawning)

[trail ledge]

Ive been able to stabalize 200 rn

but it was a PAIN

[earnest hinge]

things just naturally break when you have that many mods tbf

[trail ledge]

Is taped together but it works now XD

just need a better pc

[earnest hinge]

LMAO

mood

[trail ledge]

Runs OK noe but mc cpu and ram need an upgrade

[somber grail]

Indeed a mood which makes me glad I'm keeping it just vanilla plus with some new features for the 2/3 friends I play mostly with-

Only custom are like Wesley's Interiors and Needycat mod

[earnest hinge]

yeah those two specifically are what modded lethal loves to munch on

[trail ledge]

oh lol the pack is being called "Ultimate company" for an idea of how crazy it might be

[somber grail]

Lamo-

But I do wanna add custom moons to the pack but we barely play

But I think it's due to me deleting saves when updating said modpack+

So I'm gonna try not doing that anymore unless it's something super major. Or bugs out with old saves

[trail ledge]

I took my bois break from the game to make the pack

when its done their break is done

[earnest hinge]

I have a bad habit deleting saves when I update the modpack lmao

[trail ledge]

You guys keep consistant saves?

[earnest hinge]

I'm desperately looking for any way to reduce the chances of something breaking

[somber grail]

Yeah I know one person wants to play tomorrow but ngl I might go ask people who haven't played in a while

Mainly so 2 or 3 won't be so boring

[earnest hinge]

I don't but I do have a small group I play with that likes to keep em

[trail ledge]

I do plan to keep one as I have cosmentic and furniture save

dont have LGU or AC upgrades saving atm

[earnest hinge]

yeah I'm just tryna get my modpack to a point where I can be satisifed with it and stop updating it every day LOL

finally reached 100 mods total, and only 3 of em are moons

[trail ledge]

that will never be the truth for me as when I see a new good content mod I cant resist

[earnest hinge]

LITERALLY

#1169056298856362105 whispers to me to check it out

[trail ledge]

I just added 4 new interiors on top of the 24 I already had

[earnest hinge]

Oh I couldn't do that many until I get a pc that can run cyberpunk high settings 💀

[trail ledge]

also got like 100 moons now(I use selenes choice for 15 per quota)

[earnest hinge]

oh wow

I'd kinda wanna try that pack ngl

but my internet speed is pitiful atm

gonna take an entire evening to download it

[trail ledge]

yup lol, also making a NON AC version for peeps who dont wanna use it

[earnest hinge]

I just rather never touch AC seeing how many mod creators don't support it

[trail ledge]

Dont support dont mean it dont work well but yeah that why I made the 2 versions

tho the non AC one will recieve less support tbh

[trail ledge]

also 40+ new enemies

no goofy ones

[somber grail]

Lol-

Ngl I should probably add a custom enemy mod back in or two but I'm waiting until VEGA ai support

[trail ledge]

I like the idea of vega but just too powerful for me

[somber grail]

I use it due to me just not being SUPER pro good at the game or not having many people to play with much -

[earnest hinge]

the way I wanna balance vega is just allow only one person to have it

[strange radish]

that's what I thought, I thought it was very funny but it's also not "Immersive" at all lmao

[strange radish]

I recall someone told ya but every weapon in IS has a double swing issue where it detects two swings per singular swing, that coupled with dmg increases causes stuff to be able to one shot bhawks and players

I don't mind it much, but it's pretty game breaking lmao

[delicate maple]

keepitkeepitkeepitkeepitkeepitkeepitkeepitkeepitkeepitkeepitkeepitkeepitKEEPIT

[strange radish]

make a config GRAAAH

cuz ik you love configs Xu

[lean plover]

Fym make it a config

This sounds like a base game bug

[rich panther]

I wouldn't be surprised if it is a vanilla bug but I can vouch that weapons like the bat has a chance to OHKO hawks despite the x2 multiplier, there was one time it didn't which made me go hmmm

Vanilla still has that fucking dreadful inventory bug which still makes me go zzz if my friend wants to play specifically vanilla

[strange radish]

it has not happened with any vanilla weapon ever

also i'm messing w abt the config lmao 😭;

[lean plover]

Not something I can control then, the weapons are a copy paste of the normal shovel

[strange radish]

most strange

[supple shoal]

They can't be

[strange radish]

i mean

most intriguing

thats what i was thinking

[supple shoal]

They do 2 hp per hit instead of 1, and deal a critical hit on other players

[lean plover]

There's literally no such thing as a critical hit

And yes, it's a copy paste except the 2 damage on enemies

[supple shoal]

Well the weapons kill players in 1 hit lol

[lean plover]

Shovel damage on players is inconsistent to begin with

I've seen shovels 1 shot

[supple shoal]

lol

[strange radish]

i'm sorry but, like, when?? have you seen this happen???

like it's literally never happened to me

[lean plover]

?

shovel damage being inconsistent?

always?

[strange radish]

no like people getting 1 shot by shovels

i consistently kill my friends cuz im an ass hole and i've never seen it happen

also isn't it like

insanely late fo ryou

go to sleep

[lean plover]

its 5am

sorry im healthy?

smh

[lean plover]

i've seen it happen a couple times, especially when u got a bunch of random ass mods, maybe shovel hit force affects it? vanilla doesnt have anything with more than 1 hit force so it might be a more consistent thing with more than 1 hit force

[strange radish]

girl, the time you wake up at is just as important as the amount of time you sleep

you're not healthy for waking up at 5 am 😭

[strange radish]

hrm

[lean plover]

dunno, 5am is pretty healthy