Starlancer Moons v3.2.0 / Starlancer Warehouse v1.7.0

[bright eagle]

Once

Sorry I didn’t see I just heard it and saw the giant dot on the map near my friend

[thorn warren]

Idk when you saw it, but it's much better rn

Lol

[bright eagle]

Like maybe 3-4 days ago

[thorn warren]

Yeah it's a helluva lot more developed now

Imma be pushing a config update soon

[bright eagle]

On the website you can do both

[onyx dirge]

In the app you can only include tags, not blacklist em p sure

[bright eagle]

You can

It’s like

Mod contains none of these tags

[bright eagle]

This may already be a thing but any chance we could get some custom scrap in the future like Wesley does? I would be down to model them if needed

[brazen shore]

Audio bug(?) with the dropship on solace

this threw me off so bad lol

[limpid portal]

Known issue, will be fixed in the next update. Just taking a small break so I don't burn out ^^

[brazen shore]

understandable! no worries and enjoy the break c:

[unkempt verge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/FlipMods/NoMusicDistortion/

[brazen shore]

ooo I'll try this in a bit

[limpid portal]

Yea the reason behind this bug was that I somehow moved the music object in the itemdropship lol

[unkempt verge]

That mod is still worth having. Doppler in LC is horrible on some stuff.

[limpid portal]

Understandable, I find it funny tho 🤭

[bright eagle]

It’s honestly kinda funny tbh

[unkempt verge]

Well, that mod doesn't disable it on everything.

[limpid portal]

Oh and this is planned. The asset packs I'm using have some stuff that would be good, and I have at least one original thing in mind

[bright eagle]

If you need any custom things too I’d be down to make some

[crimson helm]

Yeah agreed, I've had the idea for a while for someone to make a random list of moons per quota but this way of quantifying it sounds really good and balanced

[sharp sequoia]

It’d be perfect for your modpack fr

[crimson helm]

Exactly

I've tried to make my modpack be only moons / interiors so it can be used as a dependency

it'd absolutely go in EGM

but I may consider adding it to the base pack too

[sharp sequoia]

oh yes very true

Damnnn I didn’t know about the malfunctions mod, I need it

[bright eagle]

some of them sound more annoying than interesting tbh

[sharp sequoia]

oh I’d disabled some in the config, but I’d keep the random routing error for sure

[bright eagle]

it doesnt sound too hard too

[uneven plover]

hey do you use lll's tagging feature? meltdown in the future is going to do stuff with that so just make sure auralis is tagged with "Snow" and that should be everything you need to do

[crimson helm]

👀 what are they cooking

[uneven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-toy-story-buzz-dab-me-up-dab-up-gif-26395273

dont worry bout it

[lunar pumice]

[green plaza]

Nah I smelled your beta

https://tenor.com/view/staring-black-man-staring-black-men-staring-black-men-men-staring-gif-25096788

You’re, you’re that raw kinda evil

[limpid portal]

Pretty sure it's tagged already, but I'll make sure :3

[drowsy mulch]

Me installing Meltdown and seeing all of my snow maps have indeed melted down

[stone cairn]

wait is that an actual feature? or just memeing

[drowsy mulch]

Meming based on the discussion earlier

[teal nimbus]

Hey @limpid portal
While playing On your moons, eg solace ive noticed that the ambient music stops playing after you enter and then exit facility
Do you have any solution to this or should i give you my way i fixed that on my moon?

[limpid portal]

I can't remember if I tried a fix on it yet, so please do!

[stone cairn]

that'd be so funny if it existed

[teal nimbus]

My method is very primitive
I just put audio trigger that changes my ambient volume back to normal on each doors so when player leaves dungeon he instantly touches the trigger

Works very well fot me

[thorn warren]

What about if they get teleported?

I'd make a check in updates that checks if a track is currently playing and whether it matches either the player being outside or inside, would that just not work?

[teal nimbus]

While being teleported the inside reverb from presets is triggered

So you need to set in there your ambient volume to 0

So when you get into facility the ambient stops

And when you leave, player touches trigger outside and the ambient volume is changed

[thorn warren]

Hmm

If it works, then it's a better method ye

Probably

[teal nimbus]

Its just more primotive

I tired to make outside audio reverb to change ambient volume

But for some reason it doesnt work

Zeekers really should make this game's code more flexible

[teal nimbus]

I used that on my catalyst moon and it works for now

[thorn warren]

Noice

[limpid portal]

Thanks! I'll see if I can figure out something a bit more dynamic as well :3

[sharp sequoia]

This is probably going to be helpful for me too! I’m almost at the sound part

[limpid portal]

Made some really good progress today on the ||interior|| I've been making :3

[fading yacht]

oooooo what stage of dev are you in right now?

[limpid portal]

Still making ||tiles||, but I have most of the basics down

[green plaza]

doc i dont wanna open my spreadsheet anymore

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/holes-that's-too-damn-bad-too-bad-kate-barlow-gif-17131276090252962938

[green plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/wes-fall-to-knees-scream-gif-27602552

tolian just released 2 more god damn moon

I know Wesley is LYING and has like 10 more in the works rn

Im going to have the entire galaxy

I look forward to your cooking

[lunar pumice]

Accurate

[limpid portal]

Still very much WIP, but I'm going a bit bigger with my entrance

[thorn warren]

too symmetrical

or well

symmetrical aint the word

theres like no variety? im not sure what the word is actually lol

[limpid portal]

Still very much WIP

[thorn warren]

Nono Its either perfect now or never

Also doesn't mean I can't give feedback smh :p

[drowsy mulch]

10/10 would walk into this room

[limpid portal]

I'm gonna put one guaranteed rubber duck in the middle and call it done

[thorn warren]

I wonder if you can mess with scrap sizes

[wicked radish]

9.8/10 i would stand in that room for a couple seconds

[thorn warren]

Just one giant duck to rule them all

[limpid portal]

Ofc, but there's plenty of variety planned 😋

[drowsy mulch]

You could with prefabs probably but then that's pre-placed

In reference to scrap size

[limpid portal]

I'm absolutely gonna do that at some point

[thorn warren]

Someone make a bank interior where I get to rob the safe with the big rubber duck

[limpid portal]

Don't stand too long, I foresee this being a popular coilhead hangout

Oh my god can I put a prefabbed enemy in an interior??

[royal cape]

need time

[drowsy mulch]

I think so?

[thorn warren]

Yeah but didn't that cause problems?

[drowsy mulch]

I don't think you can spawn pseudo custom enemies naturally through vents though unlike natural moon spawns

[limpid portal]

If you're referring to the spore lizards kissing I fixed that

[thorn warren]

I'm half referring to that but I mean if it's fixed it's probably okay, just as long as other values like power etc are accounted for when you put the pefab in there

[drowsy mulch]

You should be able to customize the prefabs otherwise though

[green plaza]

Too uniform?

[limpid portal]

In theory it'd be possible with a plugin, but too much work lol. If I ever do put in an enemy, it'd be a single one if any

Now just putting static models and ambient noises, on the other hand...

[thorn warren]

Imagine for example you're making your first minecradt house, you put all the torches evenly spaced etc, uniform is a good word

And yes I did compare this interior to making your first minecraft house

[limpid portal]

Lmao a fair comparison since it's my first interior, but industrial things tend to have uniformity to some degree

[drowsy mulch]

Enemy prefab could work great for specific hazard or unique methods of killing people who fail parkour

[thorn warren]

Not if its rundown with monsters but I see your point

[limpid portal]

Ah yes, the "Pit o' Jesters"

[keen marsh]

payday map in lethal company

perfect

[drowsy mulch]

"The room where a Nutcracker can't walk to you but can still shoot you"

[thorn warren]

Non

It's the "lag pit"

[limpid portal]

...blob pit

[thorn warren]

Ngl someone needs to make a moon thats basically a bank heist, idc if there's no randomness in it

[drowsy mulch]

No interior, just prefab scrap

[limpid portal]

Very fair point here tho, I should break it up a bit, like I did with the lightposts on Triskelion

[drowsy mulch]

Uniformity is a myth by Big Symmetry made to sell two of everything across an axis

[fathom dirge]

wait is this for a moon or a new interior?

[limpid portal]

||interior||

[green plaza]

will it be apart of your moons mod or as its own interior

[keen marsh]

it's for my minecraft server

[green plaza]

Dawg

Ironically enough

Minecraft modding is how I got here

[keen marsh]

same

[green plaza]

I host a modded minecraft server every summer with my slaves- i mean friends

Every year the theme is different but follows my FiF naming scheme

Forged in Fire -> Forged in Flames -> Forged in Fabric -> Forged in Fear

[keen marsh]

i miss those times 🥺

making the custom modpack and playing on a small server

and everyone gives up and doesn't play (or pay) for a few months

i tell them it's closed and hear bitching 😆

[green plaza]

yea

[keen marsh]

classic

[green plaza]

thats why its become a summer thing

[keen marsh]

you've given me a great idea

[green plaza]

plus keeping a minecraft server open long is expensive

[keen marsh]

true

i mean - for me it was something like 7$/month

so not much when working full time

[green plaza]

Yea now that I have more income its gonna be easier

[keen marsh]

and the performance wasn't an issue once

only pregen made my pull my hair

[green plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-staring-stare-looking-staring-gif-24010129

ooo

oh boy

I made my modpacks racist

And heavy

[keen marsh]

i've made a script to check the server's performance and pause the pregen after 5mins of high CPU usage

cause my hosting was ass

[green plaza]

pregen was not a choice, if we did not pregen about like 1000 chunks the TICK OVERLOADS WOULD GO WILD

My favorite part was the ticking entities that once loaded would-

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-gif-949319236308169219

the server

just poof

[keen marsh]

don't remind me

once the TPS went to like 4-5 when nobody played for a week

debugging that was fun

turns out: we've added a mod to generate manure from animals

and every single one of them shat every 10 minutes

there was a chunk near spawn with ~16K items being constantly ticked

fun

[green plaza]

fun

we should minecraft together sometime

Ill have to hit up all my old usual mod makers

I know minecraft is eternal but its not really living rn

hopping the modding community has been doing alright since I last checked in on it

[keen marsh]

truue

[keen marsh]

i've just realized what i've read

wtf

[green plaza]

haha

[limpid portal]

yes

[sharp sequoia]

yes

[crimson helm]

Teach me your ways

I've been trying to set up a modded monthlong event for a community server I host but haven't settled on a modpack yet

And last time I made my own it didn't exactly go well

The biggest issue was balance, a severe lack of direction, and the biome data getting completely set to a different seed in a Biomes o Plenty world despite the worldgen staying the same

[green plaza]

Dawg

Everything requires

Extenesive knowledge of the mod

And the config

[crimson helm]

Yeah, hence why I want to probably go with a premade modpack

I was thinking better minecraft until it turned out to be too vanilla+ with not enough content

and apparently also sucks according to the modding community

but lets take this to dm cause if you're down I'd like to have an extensive conversation

[median gate]

I only want solace, so how do I install it individually?

[lunar pumice]

You can't

But you might be able to disable the other two

[median gate]

Oh okay. Thanks!

[thorn warren]

@limpid portal how do you set up the colour for your terrains on your moons?

im making a footstep dust system where it uses a raycast to the terrain from underneath the feet and grabs teh colour of the terrain

works for vanilla but its error'ing out for custom moons

only tried asteroid and auralis so far

[formal thorn]

wym colour

off what

[thorn warren]

off the material's colour?

[formal thorn]

very suprised that works in vanilla

[thorn warren]

lol, i've never implemented something like that, but yeah it works in vanilla

[formal thorn]

99% of the time thats gonna be like

white

[thorn warren]

it's given me proper colours, how should i be changing it?

[formal thorn]

cuz colour on the material is added ontop of the basemap itself

[thorn warren]

hmm true

[formal thorn]

like .colour has inherintly nothing to do with the actual textures on the basemap

[thorn warren]

shouldnt it atleast give me white though? It's been giving null errors

[formal thorn]

its possible there might not be a renderer on the collider object

[thorn warren]

do you know what i should be using then?

[formal thorn]

I wish I had a great answer for you

[thorn warren]

lol, its alright, ill give it some extra checks, and see what i can mess with

[formal thorn]

In the future you'd probably have an ok time using my custom footstep stuff but even that is highkey messy as fuck because it runs into a unity limitation

[thorn warren]

most of the footstep stuff works fine for my code, just the particles's colour that comes out needs to be done better

[formal thorn]

the issue is that basegame uses tags for thatk inda stuff

which we cant do

[thorn warren]

ah ic

[thorn warren]

@formal thorn theres a good chance only experimentation has a material colour 💀, i think they all have renderers though

[formal thorn]

their all going to have renderers

the assumption that will grill you is them being on the same object

[thorn warren]

ic

[formal thorn]

and yeah the colour stuff will not be fun

[thorn warren]

annoying that i only tested with experimentation at first and it worked lol, doing .material.color on other maps just gives the base 1 1 1 1 for a r g b

[thorn warren]

@formal thorn i found a reason to yell at star

for some reason the snow footsteps just, get put on whatever is on top like my enemy?

inb4 its my fault not his

[sharp sequoia]

Why would you do that Xu?!

[thorn warren]

the giant wanted me to step on him

i fulfilled his demands

[sharp sequoia]

😟😟

[limpid portal]

Batby pretty much covered the terrain stuff for me lol
I don't think that's either of our faults actually, probably a unity quirk or something related to how Zeekers set up the footprint scripting

[glossy plover]

i'm sorry 2???

hol up i only saw 1

[drowsy mulch]

Zenit, Nyx

[green plaza]

Yea

[green plaza]

Also what’s up dude, been looking for you, u alright

[glossy plover]

yeah i'm fine

[fathom dirge]

@limpid portal Do you plan to add compatibility with Sfdesats mod celestial tint?

[limpid portal]

Yep

While I have been cooking up the new stuff, I've also been playing the Mega Man Battle Network collection 🤭

[lunar pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/society-computer-flower-beauty-gaming-gif-17376500

[thorn warren]

my only guess that they're on the same layer or smthn weird like that lol, pretty funny bug though

[limpid portal]

The only one that wasn't already tagged in a compatible manner was Solace, were the other two not working right?

I think someone needs to do some spring cleaning

[fading yacht]

ohhhhhh i love this so much

[limpid portal]

Wait til you see it in a non dev-setup way 🤭

[fading yacht]

i can just imagine seeing a thumper through the gaps in the shelves and trying to stay out of its view

[unkempt verge]

Are we getting drivable forklift too?

[limpid portal]

Here's a better representation that's not cluttered. I'm excited to have a loadable dungeon so I can see how LC's shader looks on it lol

[limpid portal]

lmao I wish

[royal cape]

It looks great

[fading yacht]

will this be compatible with cullfactory out of the box

[limpid portal]

Not sure why it wouldn't be

I'm pretty sure it makes use of dungen door mechanics, so it should work fine

[fading yacht]

there have been a few interiors that weren't compatible due to various reasons and had to be updated, so i was just curious. if you need more info on making everything compatible i would ask zaggy

[limpid portal]

Zaggy can make cullfactory compatible with ME 😤
okie dokie

[thorn warren]

It would be nice if the lights dropped some electric particles occasionally

[limpid portal]

I'll give it a try! Last time I tried to use particle effects it was pretty performance heavy, but that was probably due to the amount of area I was covering.

[thorn warren]

Really? My giant drops like 600 particles every 4 seconds due to dust and I don't think I got any performance issues

[limpid portal]

I had a lot of snow particles on Auralis in the early stages

But yea it should be negligible in this case

[thorn warren]

I think i remember that lol

[teal nimbus]

Aw man..
Hope you use baked light for these rooms or it might lag 😅

[limpid portal]

Baking light bloats file size tremendously lol, but I'll keep an eye on performance.

[teal nimbus]

Depends on settings of the light

Less detail, less it weights

[limpid portal]

I'm not even sure how I'd bake the lighting actually, tiles are prefabs, and they don't exist in the scene until procedurally placed

[teal nimbus]

🤔

[limpid portal]

Well I'll burn that bridge when I get to it

First thing is to actually get a working version out lol

[thorn warren]

There's always some option hidden somewhere for real time and baking

Maybe not on the light itself, but smthn you'd attach to it

[limpid portal]

I'm not super familiar with baking lighting, but doesn't it bake the scene?

[thorn warren]

I'm not familiar with scenes, but there's likely a way to just bake it alone

[uneven plover]

baking lights is only applicable to scenes (im fairly certain)

[limpid portal]

Rip

If there's performance issues I'll handle them one way or another

[uneven plover]

just have it depend on cullfactory

[formal thorn]

this game doesnt use baking

[native surge]

Does baking lights mean predetermining shadows instead of raycasting them every frame?

[onyx dirge]

UNFH, THAT LOOKS SO SEXY. Frikkin needed a environment like this for certain moons ngl

Masa can openly talk about it now right

[limpid portal]

If no spoiler, you may speak

[onyx dirge]

WE SPEAK

🗣️

[sharp sequoia]

That’s sick MasterLancer, well played 👏

[thorn warren]

I've heard of star, audio, knight, lancer, but MasterLancer???

that nickname implies something...

[limpid portal]

I prefer Commander for my Starlancer rank tbh 🤭

[drowsy mulch]

Master General Commander Captain Starlancer 🫡

[onyx dirge]

Binder's bound by MasterLancer's work

Cometjouster

[lone roost]

tryin to use the sci-fi assets that starlancermoons uses (which is why i'm asking here, assuming you know something about it) yet all the assets are completely magenta

@limpid portal gwagwa

[limpid portal]

Select all the materials, then up in the toolbar, click edit, go to rendering and find the option (nested in there somewhere) for converting selected materials to hdrp

If that doesn't work, you'll just have to manually set each materials shader to hdrp/lit and assign the textures yourself

@lone roost

[lone roost]

thanke!

[knotty marten]

this is amazing, can't wait to see it

[limpid portal]

Thank you! ✨

[thorn warren]

This is subpar, im intrigued

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-why-are-you-the-way-you-are-pissed-gif-5226128

[native surge]

These are some very very big rooms, hopefully they don’t become a pain to travel across :)

[limpid portal]

don't worry, that's just the entrance

[crimson helm]

I feel like this is exactly what the interior space needs

The only thing similar is the SCP dungeon but that's very stylized and concrete

[safe hill]

Really awesome mod, but for some reason the ai fix for it makes enemies have really really low spawn rates and only pickles will spawn as scrap 😭

[eager sedge]

I don't think that's the AI fix doing that?

[lone roost]

are you sure it's the ai fix? i have never seen it do that

[limpid portal]

That's 100% not related to the AIFix lmao, none of its code touches spawn rates or scrap 🤭
Also here's the SLAI thread for future reference: https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1206494982521753620

[safe hill]

my bad reinstalling fixed it lmao

[limpid portal]

One react and I'll post a progress update on the interior

Say no more

[silk tusk]

This is so sexy~ 🥰

[formal thorn]

do cool shit with my dungeonevents u wont

flex on em

[limpid portal]

maybe i fookin will

(probably not the initial release tho)

(also I don't know how to access your dungeonevents if that's actually a think that can be done right now)

[formal thorn]

ExtendedDungeonFlow.dungeonEvents or whatevs

[limpid portal]

ah

Well you know me, I love to test functionalities

[still prairie]

At what point are you in developement? It looks so cool

[limpid portal]

Uhhh probably not too far from an initial release actually. I have a few more tiles I wanna make, then me and my friend will beta test it

[thorn warren]

Someone send a message on this discord, anywhere at all, and I'll ban star!
(/j)

[limpid portal]

.

[thorn warren]

Wow that's depressing

[limpid portal]

u kno how it b

[thorn warren]

The map reminds me of the old old halo corridors and insides lol

Feels like imma find a random weapon in the corner

[limpid portal]

ohhh yea same

[limpid portal]

Found the code, def gonna use it at some point

onEnemySpawnedFromVent(play Airhorn.mp3)

I wonder if that's a mod already

[thorn warren]

If it is, probably not in the way you'd want it to be

[limpid portal]

Probably not lol, though I'd love to see a custom Bozoros interior that has that as a random chance

but a clown horn sound, ofc

[stone cairn]

new interior looks sick 👀

[lunar pumice]

Gives me goldeneye vibes idk why

[lone roost]

the interior seems to have textures on the outside for some reason

[thorn warren]

The interiors out already?

[lone roost]

no i am just pointing it out based off the images

[limpid portal]

Can't tell if this is a silly or if you're comparing it to how vanilla tiles are see-through from the outside

[thorn warren]

is it fine if I copy this thread and just paste it onto mine? I like the wall paper

/j

[fading yacht]

i think the latter

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/fatboy-slim-change-it-up-copy-homework-stealing-gif-12255593

@lone roost you can copy the formatting, that's fine

[limpid portal]

The thing with vanilla tiles is that they're just planes with one-sided materials, which is better in the sense of being able to view the generation in Unity, but I'm not gonna modify these store assets for that since there's no gameplay impact lol

[sharp sequoia]

How hard is making an interior compared to a moon?

In your opinion

[limpid portal]

I'd say it's more complicated bc there's more stuff that you're required to keep track of, since you're now dealing with scrap spawns, hazard spawns, and enemy spawn placements

Also having to learn DunGen basics is its own beast, since the whole doorway system can be finicky to position correctly, especially when prefabs have custom pivot locations

[wicked radish]

@limpid portal did you have problems with your dungeon being fullbright? and how did you fix it

[limpid portal]

Regarding a specific dungeon or the moon?

[wicked radish]

the moon

[limpid portal]

Make sure your sunanim container has the correct direct and indirect lights assigned

[wicked radish]

ok thx

[limpid portal]

And also that you aren't animating the lights "enabled" properties

[wicked radish]

i removed the indirectlighting, then added it back, but didn't assign it in the container

[limpid portal]

I tried to do that at one point so I could have the moon cast shadows and it broke the heck out of the lighting

ahh might be the cause then

[royal cape]

how long till the interior comes out?🥺

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-professor-farnsworth-professor-farnsworth-bender-gif-25198969

[bright eagle]

What about solace grass and flowers

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-professor-farnsworth-professor-farnsworth-bender-gif-25198969

[sharp sequoia]

So true

[limpid portal]

To give y'all a real answer tho
Once I have a decent initial version of the interior, my friend is gonna help me beta test and see how it feels
While I'm waiting on them to be free at that point probably, I'll polish up the moons for update

And then I'll release them simultaneously with the interior becoming the new default for Auralis and a high chance for Triskelion

[weak socket]

I'm excited for the interior

we need more modded interiors

I also never could find an interior that fits your moons themes

[sharp sequoia]

sickk

[onyx dirge]

Hghhh Audio Knight youre such a chef. Can't wait for the interior to come out! <3

[limpid portal]

It certainly helps that it's the same asset pack 🤭
Sometimes imposter syndrome kicks in and I feel like I'm almost cheating using other people's assets, but I have to remind myself that everything around those assets is me, I'm the one choosing layouts, designing the environment, setting things up so that it's a fun and balanced experience, and then I eject the dumb imposter 😤

[onyx dirge]

There are 0 Imposters among us!

[weak socket]

the thing about using an asset pack

theres a reason that pack exists

to be used

by people like you

[idle tree]

Most of the assets in the base game arn't even zeeker's. Don't feel bad about using an asset pack XD

[onyx dirge]

Indie dev gaming tbh

[drowsy mulch]

Kitbashing is an art I tell you

[limpid portal]

✨💙✨

My GF wants me to make a pirate game. Nothing on the market gives her what she wants 🤭

[thorn warren]

i read that wrong the first time

good thing i dont ban on first sight eh?

[limpid portal]

Lmaooo I had that same thought at first and I was like nah, no one else will think that

[lunar pumice]

That’s why I started but never completely finished a Dragon Ball fighting game

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518885952345866250/807042062653980682/image0.jpg?ex=6606087d&is=65f3937d&hm=fcc82d75a6a0964a119bd2f2fb1dbf7f0d84526e8ae77ec63dc5ee6af4fffbe4&

[bright eagle]

I have been learning modeling and the thought of making an interior caused me to get burnt out

I was going to make one everything from scratch

Then I realized how much work that would be

[lone roost]

the free asset pack is a free asset pack for a reason

[native surge]

Like sea of thieves or something different?

[limpid portal]

Fr fr

[limpid portal]

Sort of, but no big open multiplayer (safer seas exists, but she's run into some stuff locked behind high seas)

[thorn warren]

sorry, i didnt see this earlier, this aint imposter syndrome, this is protagonist syndrome, you're sicker than we thought 😆

[limpid portal]

I'm gonna dropkick you lmao

[crude flicker]

Any possibility of making individual downloads for each of your modded moons in the future instead of it only being available through the current bundle?

[limpid portal]

Since its possible to use the LLL config to hide the moons, my current plan is that I will not be releasing them in standalone form.

[crude flicker]

I see. I personally prefer having the option to only download just the moons I'd want on my mod list to save up load times and disk space.

[limpid portal]

I understand where you're coming from, but my moons are comparatively lightweight, clocking in at just about ~100mb for 3 moons

[crude flicker]

Yeah, I'd say that's still a reasonable size. Thanks for answering 😃

The new interior looks great btw, gonna be looking forward to it. Is it also going to be bundled in or be posted separately as its own thing?

[limpid portal]

Thanks! It'll be its own mod and my moons will have it as a dependency so that Auralis and Triskelion can have it as the default interior

[weak socket]

will it have a default interior size or will it be based on the moon its put on

[limpid portal]

Probably just based on the moon. That might lead it to be pretty big, but I'm not sure if there's a way to enforce a limit. If it ends up being mansion-esque in its overall size per multiplier, I'd like to set it to dynamically set the dungeon size to 75% of its set value to prevent it from being hilariously large and empty as can happen whenever moons have large mansion sizes

[weak socket]

are you gonna have size settings in the configs?

[limpid portal]

I'm not sure what you mean. I haven't finished up everything yet, so idk how that would be done

[weak socket]

like how the office interior has this config setting

[limpid portal]

Ahh okay, I'll look into that

Okay so, none of these are shadow-casting lights which means there should be minimal performance hit to them, but I wish there was a better way to make something glow besides the crappy emissive map (which doesn't actually glow)
I put like 7 tube area lights around to the big things and each small thing has a rectangular area light for each of its little modules (4 in total)

if anyone has a better glow solution, I'm all ears lol

Well actually the tube lights look better than rect, so I've swapped those now

Being able to rely on bloom would look nicer ofc, but not every moon maker is gonna set up post processing

[royal cape]

looks great

[thorn warren]

Technically with emissive map, if you make it a real time and give it a script that changes the emissive value, the nits or EV0 through two constants, it'll glow and dkm

Dim*

Doubt the performance hit would be noticeable

[limpid portal]

Yeah, I meant actually emitting light tho, my bad

[thorn warren]

Hm

I might be wrong but I assumed emissive was emitting light

Atleast from my tests

Hmm well kinda

You're probably right

[limpid portal]

big increase in emission on the right

[thorn warren]

Yeah I see what you mean

[limpid portal]

It'll do for now though, it's a unique room

[thorn warren]

Tbh you could make a small object, parent it to a spot light or whatever and use that

[limpid portal]

This is my current solution, not sure if it's in-line with your suggestion

actually lemme test spotlighting it

[thorn warren]

Yeah just try different lights rather than just area

[twilit bronze]

are you making an interior?!?!?!?!??!

[limpid portal]

bruh, you're late 🤭

[twilit bronze]

is it out?!??!?!?!?1

wtf did i miss

[limpid portal]

nonono lol

[twilit bronze]

oooooo i cant fucking wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this looks amazing

[thorn warren]

I'd give it a birdie on a 5 par course

Like it's good, but it's not an eagle

Definitely not an albatross either

[limpid portal]

Well I'm not great at golf, so

[native surge]

Yeah we don’t know what that means

[limpid portal]

I tried some other types, but tube area lights seem to work the best for this purpose (at least in Unity, we'll see how everything looks in LC later)
I moved them around so they're illuminating flat areas instead of the corners for better light dispersion, and I decreased the range on the smaller objects so they aren't illuminating the floor through themselves as much

[limpid portal]

I know the scoring, I was just being silly :P
Birdie/Eagle/Albatross are 1/2/3 under par respectively

[native surge]

Ohh!

Interestinggg

[native surge]

Are those fire exits in place of normal doors? Or is there something special about this room…?

[limpid portal]

It's just the way DunGen needs to be set up lol

They are fire exits

but not guaranteed or anything

[native surge]

Hrm :/

It definitely looks like they have something in them :P siick

[lunar pumice]

Wait Albatross is actually a golf thing??

I thought they were joking

[limpid portal]

Yee

[lunar pumice]

pfffft

[lone roost]

i have 75mb for one, gwuah

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-wasted-fomo-yeah-gif-15155881

[crimson helm]

The biggest open secret of game dev (and general media) to me is that assets are used everywhere

They exist to be used, and a lot of people apply them probably much more than most people realize

so I wouldn't worry at all about using them, since its how they're applied that makes or breaks whether something is good and all of your stuff absolutely kills it

[cedar scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/igourney-alert-gif-10012647

I love it, i know im a nerd and such but anytime i see this style of interior I immediately think alien. It looks amazing so far

[weak socket]

My opinion on this mod

[drowsy mulch]

You can set up a local volume that has a weaker bloom effect for that tile, or multiple smaller but stronger volumes on each tube.

[limpid portal]

True, my main concern there would be if someone did have PP already then it'd throw it out of whack. There's no perfect solution probably, but I'll keep at it :P

[limpid portal]

Ripley my beloved

[teal nimbus]

im sure ill use it

especially in my new map in near future 😅

[limpid portal]

Alright y'all, I've got one more tile I wanna make, then I'll finish setting up the scrap/hazard/vents and see if I can get it working in game 👀

[thorn warren]

Inb4 it doesn't work

[limpid portal]

Well it won't be shared until it does, so you'll never know

[thorn warren]

I'll get a hint when you provide 0 updates within 24 hours

[limpid portal]

@thorn warren you might be happy to hear that I've randomized whether the various lights are active or not to further decrease the uniformity of the tiles

[thorn warren]

thats nice, did you attach a script to the lights for this?

[limpid portal]

Nope, just using the DunGen local prop set to randomly pick whether a version with the light is on or off is placed. In addition to removing the light, the off version also has a different material for the bulbs so that it doesn't have any emissive properties

[thorn warren]

oh nice

[lunar pumice]

lmao it still isn’t done

Was able to get a custom logo made and integrated last night though

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1163987150094737438/1219903110701650000/image.png?ex=660cfe4e&is=65fa894e&hm=2cc1df52fe298246a6fcca3c871ad09cfb153f54fdba7c204177146b1f15337e&

[weak socket]

Bananaaa

[limpid portal]

Several bugs on my part, but I've loaded it in game!

Now that that's accomplished, it's just tweaking and polishing :D

[brazen shore]

starlancer is COOKIN

[limpid portal]

Still things to iron out, but WORKING DOOOOOORSSSSSS

[onyx dirge]

OMG YES YES YES

[silk tusk]

it looks sexy, and now I can't help but wonder if they can somehow be made to temporarily lock

[lunar pumice]

AYYYYY

[silk tusk]

Imagine a door concept where you can lock it from one/both end(s) to distance yourself from an enemy that can open doors fast

[limpid portal]

I might actually have some spawn in with the same mechanics as the big doors in the factory and have the access pad be red

[silk tusk]

🥰

I'm thinking of like.... friday the 13th(?) gameplay mechanics of how some doors with a key or a board can be locked up

[onyx dirge]

🥺 holy shit Masa didnt even have to suggest it, you just did it yourself!

[silk tusk]

and an enemy can bust through eventually, and it destroys the functionality of locking it temporarily again

that's a mod idea for somebody

randomly spawns like... lock-bars on some doors on one side

[limpid portal]

Yea that'd be a bit tougher 🤭

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-i-did-saw-that-coming-saw-it-coming-foresight-gif-14337702585479083289

[silk tusk]

yeh - for your doors I was thinking of keycards spawning instead of keys, and depending on the card - you either use it to lock it temporarily, or use it to unlock a door

but I suppose you'll just use the default key for your doors 😅

[limpid portal]

Was already planning on keycards actually

[silk tusk]

o:

[limpid portal]

just needs a model swap really

[silk tusk]

are you going to be the first to use a different item to unlock a door? :3 a consumable one actually

[limpid portal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silk tusk]

although I guess there once was that mod that used shovels to bash doors open

but I mean used in a "Key" sense

[limpid portal]

I might be one of, if not the, first to put out a moon mod, code mod, and interior mod

[lunar pumice]

Stonks

[limpid portal]

From there I gotta do some custom scrap for my moons and an enemy mod

[silk tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/gravity-falls-books-grunkle-stan-gif-20607279

[lunar pumice]

This is how the fire exits in Gordion Sector-0 work

They’re really cool

[silk tusk]

Ooo?

[lunar pumice]

It’s a little hard to explain

But there’s a power panel outside and a shutter dool

Open the panel and flip the switch, the door opens

With a narrow room that has the fire exit at the end

There’s also a panel inside the room

[thorn warren]

How do monsters interact with these doors?

[limpid portal]

It uses the basegame interact trigger, so it should function normally

Haven't done any extensive tests yet

Good thing to keep in mind tho

[native surge]

The interactivles are synced?

[formal thorn]

Skull Crusher

sorry

[formal thorn]

If it’s using lll all that kinda stuff should be synced

[limpid portal]

Is that stuff released???

[formal thorn]

On ts no

On git ye

Public release of his fork of LL running his moon and dungeon

[idle tree]

My hype for Oobl can barely be contained

[onyx dirge]

Batby and Skullcrush running dem torches on your statement xD Also Desat made a code right?

please dont throw bricks at Masa you know what Masa means with 'code' 😭

[idle tree]

No interior.... yet

Space Station Soon

[queen ruin]

we need more Alien representation in this game

I mean COME ON

[lone roost]

looks very big

[onyx dirge]

#1208886415027343360 😩

[queen ruin]

✅ They work for a mysterious company to retrieve cargo
✅ They have to deal with monsters on foreign planets
✅ They use a computer terminal on the ship
✅ All the workers are just as expendable as the next crew

[limpid portal]

ye

[onyx dirge]

redsun

WHERE IS OUR ModelReplacementAPI EllenRipley Character Player Avatar From DeadByDaylight with Jiggle Physic 🗣️

[limpid portal]

||Red Sun over PARADIIIISE||

[queen ruin]

They also put Ripley in Fortnite

If Fortnite can do it, so can we

[onyx dirge]

||IM FUCKING INVINCIBLE||

[limpid portal]

Thy pt th mmstrcf nda sod

[onyx dirge]

Which model is better 🤔

[queen ruin]

Ripley spam

[keen marsh]

dbd mentioned 😧

[queen ruin]

Her likeness is... weird in Dead by Daylight

[keen marsh]

dbd is weird in general

[onyx dirge]

chief mind telling me what you are doing on that mountain dew?

[keen marsh]

eww wtf

[queen ruin]

She kinda looks like Jeanie from Ferris Bueller's Day Off

[onyx dirge]

Oh wasnt that updated?

[queen ruin]

This might be gross to some, but I think I have to side with Fortnite on this one

I can hear all the boos and hissing

[keen marsh]

you know what? i agree

[keen marsh]

this convinced me

[onyx dirge]

This is what Masa remembers atleast from DBD, but hey, isnt there a Alien Isolation Ripley?

[limpid portal]

sir, gaming

[onyx dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-xbox-xbox-series-x-xbox360-xbox-series-s-gif-24697188

[queen ruin]

respectfully, sir, I am a pro gamer and refuse to be treated as a second class citizen

idk if you guys were referencing something or not

its late

i'm tired

[quartz mason]

Someone is cooking 👀

[wicked radish]

looking good

[lunar pumice]

afaik yeah

(I’ve only tried it on singleplayer lol)

[pale mantle]

The most underrated part about this interior is the actual versatility of it's theme. Out of all interiors, this fits on the most moons, vanilla or modded. excited for the release 🔥

[teal nimbus]

Where do you model your tiles?
You can do it in unity

?

[limpid portal]

I didn't model anything, these are free on the asset store

[teal nimbus]

Oh :(

[limpid portal]

You can use pro builder to do basic modeling in Unity tho

[limpid portal]

Just in case I misunderstood, putting the tiles together I did in Unity, but I didn't make any 3d models

[teal nimbus]

you think im able to make tiles in unity with tools like probuilder?

[limpid portal]

Not sure lol, it depends on how complicated you wanna get

For most applications I'd still recommend a blender -> unity workflow

[idle tree]

Looks amazing 🔥

This the equivalent to the apparatus room?

[limpid portal]

It's one of two "unique" rooms, but I haven't implemented any apparatus mechanics yet

[idle tree]

Will the unique rooms serve a purpose? Something inside them?

[limpid portal]

Eventually :3

[lone roost]

looks like something The Combine would make

[vocal turtle]

@limpid portal

I believe Lethal Quantities is lying to me.

Auralis still has Forest Giants spawn correct?

[vocal turtle]

It still does it was lying to me!

While were at it. What is the spawn weight for the Forrest Keeper on Auralis?

[limpid portal]

I think 60 but I'll check later

[limpid portal]

75

[limpid portal]

Interior status update: After beta testing with my friend, we found some desync issues with the doors and he gave me some good feedback on both the visual and mechanical design of the tiles. In addition to taking my time to give y'all a good first release, I'm also somewhat waiting for the next LLL update to drop before I push any more updates myself. Big changes are happening, some that I'll be able to take advantage of, others that will require certain changes on my end, so it's best for everyone to not rush ahead here :3

[lunar pumice]

👍

[steep sand]

the moon indoors for my friends was facility while i had mansion (Solace)

[sharp sequoia]

Desync problem 😭

I think LLLFixed fixes that @steep sand

[steep sand]

does it work with LLL moons?

[sharp sequoia]

Yes, it pretty much fixes current issues with LLL until the next update, especially desync issues

[steep sand]

awesome! i'll try it out

[sharp sequoia]

At least I’ve never had any desync issues since I’ve added LLLFixed

[steep sand]

seems to still have weather desync

[lone roost]

LLL fixed doesn't touch weather, weathertweaks fixes weather desync

[steep sand]

ah alright, thank you!

[sharp sequoia]

Modded lethal is desync simulator

Wait @lone roost what mods have you made 🤯

[lone roost]

harvest moons

[silk tusk]

oh um

just remembered

even though I should've randomly pointed it out like a week or so ago- the dropship music is very far off the actual dropship in solace .- .

[lunar pumice]

iirc already fixed the the next update

[stone cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/lenny-eyebrow-flirt-smile-gif-5516050

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/hehehe-lenny-face-wink-gif-15082383

[ashen walrus]

classic lenny face

[lunar pumice]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[limpid portal]

Aside from some tweaking of values, I've got the interior pretty much how I want it for now :3
Still gonna wait until the next LLL update to release it, that way I can bundle in the extended dungeon flow and have the default values a bit easier for me to tweak

[teal nimbus]

looks awesome

[hot yew]

Oh I love the variety in tile shapes, lots of circular/rounded edges, the one corner tile that bevels but also does a hard turn, and you’ve even got a straight-up triangle!

That’s really really cool

[limpid portal]

Thank you for the kind words! This asset pack has been incredible to play around with 🤭

[hot yew]

I can’t wait to see it in action! You’ve got a great eye for unique designs and having an interior with unique shapes really helps it stand out. Even if it was just a bunch of boxes which technically you can say it is since it’s a warehouse haha, if it provides a visually-interesting space to explore, it’s still worthwhile!

[limpid portal]

I can't take all the credit design-wise, my friend has a degree in game design and has tossed me a few ideas and sent me some Metroid Prime screenshots that were great inspiration 🤭
I hope you'll enjoy it!

[limpid portal]

Figured out a mistake I made when bundling the textures for the dungeon, so doors are pretty now

[thorn warren]

you know what

i just figured it out

its not the textures that are the problem

things look too flat for the textures you're using, atleast from the pictures they look like they're just walls without any depth to em

[limpid portal]

I see where you're coming from, especially with those pics. Here's a hallway showcasing some of the improvements I've added, like occasional missing doors and pops of color, as well as the walls having some depth to them I think

[onyx dirge]

Metroid Prime being a inspiration is actual FIRE. Such great art design coming from that fame tbh.

Can't wait for the next LLL update to see this. This is a MEAL and a half 💜 and it makes Masa very excited for the future aswell

[limpid portal]

Thanks Masa ^^

[onyx dirge]

Thank you for spreading love on your work and sharing it with us all. :'D

[gilded flare]

THis is fire!

I've always wanted some custom moons with custom interiors!

[thorn warren]

Horrible, absolutely terrible

(I have to balance the force from masa complimenting it)

[onyx dirge]

youre next.

[limpid portal]

maybe not for initial release, but I'mma see if I can get these working for big doors

[onyx dirge]

Hghhhh we love em big DOORS ‼️

Ship mommy interactions

🗣️

[limpid portal]

Beeg

[onyx dirge]

Blue

[nimble bloom]

the size of the rails make it looks scaled up, or am i just crazy

[limpid portal]

The railings are the same size as on Triskelion

It big

[keen marsh]

it big & thicc

[limpid portal]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

At some point I'll tie in an event to that room

These particular generations are on Experimentation btw, so that's a vanilla global fog effect

[limpid portal]

I never really thought about it, but I don't like this vent

[drowsy mulch]

LethalPipeRemoval can get rid of it I believe

[calm otter]

chaos gonna grab u from the vent

[limpid portal]

I meant more as a fear, like Arterra said

[drowsy mulch]

Ah gotcha

[limpid portal]

Idk if anyone has gone to Auralis when it's eclipsed, but it looks amazing

[drowsy mulch]

Top 10 vacation destinations fr

[limpid portal]

It's terrifyingly beautiful

[gilded flare]

It's beautiful until you see a Bracken grab your friend off in the distance

[limpid portal]

Then it's gorgeous

[gilded flare]

My first memory of Auralis was returning to the ship after the radio sudddnly went static to see a blood trail and the mangled corpse of my crewmate. The outdoor bracken claims another soul.

[onyx dirge]

We've been super anxious about eclipsed auralis trips because its hard enough LMAO

We almost went to it though on a older Auralis version because a certain friend likes just going to a eclipsed moon and screwing us over without telling 😭

[limpid portal]

The view is worth it lol

[onyx dirge]

Will have to consider it then huh? 😩

[limpid portal]

I love how it never got pointed out that, despite what my readme says, StarlancerMusic was in fact not compatible with Yoshify's Disc Jockey boombox mod by default. When I release my next batch of updates, the readme will be correct ^^;

[unkempt verge]

Will they always show up on the list or only when you enable vanilla songs in DJ?

[limpid portal]

As of the current release they only show up with the vanilla tracklist enabled.
And I thought I had fixed it earlier, but turns out that, of course they're showing up in DJ, I have it with the DJ-friendly folder structure. So now I'm set back a bit cuz they're not injecting into the vanilla tracklist like I want, but at least I found some progress earlier with having it work for both

[thorn warren]

take it as a sign that no one used it maybe, also i might make a jukebox furniture item later if im bothered enough that u can just feed .wav's and stuff to, it doesnt seem difficult

[stone cairn]

why does it conflict with discjockey? 😮

[thorn warren]

Less that and probably how discjockey works to begin with <-- my guess

[limpid portal]

It's not that it conflicts, it's just when I released it I was mistaken regarding my mod integrating into DJ if it was present. The goal is to have the songs be present regardless of using DJ's vanilla tracklist option.
The first step is to have the songs set up in the mod under a Custom Songs folder so that they're visible to DJ by default. Easy, done.
The second step is to have the songs inject into the vanilla AudioClip[] musicAudios so they appear on the boombox for people that don't have DJ installed. Using an assetbundle (as in the current release) made this also easy, BUT what I want to do is not use an assetbundle, bc unfortunately DJ can't read the files from inside an assetbundle.
Loading local files into the musicAudios array is the roadblock I've run into

I've spent enough time on this unfortunately. I've been planning to change the audio format of the songs, so next update when I replace them I'll just edit the readme with a note of how to get the songs to appear if using DJ
Bums me out a bit bc I wanted that innate functionality, but it's not as important as the other dishes I've been cooking

[mystic radish]

Hey @limpid portal
Would you be interested in looking into adding achievements that are specific to your moons using this?
#mod-showcase message

[limpid portal]

Ooh that sounds like an interesting idea. I don't have anything implemented yet that's achievement worthy, but that gives me some ideas 👁️

What do y'all think about achievements that require death to unlock? Like, dying in a manner unique to the moons

[mystic radish]

I think it'd be better for achievements to be, well achievements
Something we need to work for and feels great to accomplish

because I just see myself dying on purpose to get them all lol

[quartz mason]

drown 100 times

[limpid portal]

Fair fair

[thorn warren]

That can be base game

[limpid portal]

I was thinking more like ||freeze to death in Auralis' water||

[thorn warren]

But I am doing something like, die to the giants feet

Witness the giant being eaten

Etc

[mystic radish]

Yeah original deaths could be cool

[royal cape]

something new

[quartz mason]

gold and glory:
get shot by a nutcracker while standing on an extension ladder with an inventory full of gold bars

[limpid portal]

New mod idea: Having 4 gold bars in your inventory acts as body armor and reduces incoming damage by 25%

[royal cape]

it's kind of easy

need something a little more complicated

[quartz mason]

and live

[ashen walrus]

yeah sure reduced damage, but good luck trying to outrun it with all that weight lmao

[sharp sequoia]

oh wow I need this!!

A ton of ideas came to my mind

Is it hard to implement @mystic radish ?

[mystic radish]

idk I didn't made it lol

[sharp sequoia]

oh

my bad lmao

oh yeah lmao it's max

[steady carbon]

@limpid portal Triskelion is gonna have 2 interiors that will work on it really well it seems, the one you're working on and I think the new Interior @tepid raptor made for Sector-0 would work really well too 😄

[limpid portal]

Nice!

[steady carbon]

How close is your interior to being released btw? ❤️

[limpid portal]

Pretty much done, just waiting for the next LLL update :3

[steady carbon]

Ahhhh 😄

[limpid portal]

Yeeee it's shaping up to be a banger

[mystic radish]

I wonder if we'll get the LLL update before v50

[ashen walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/speedrunning-intense-gif-20525448

batby:

[steady carbon]

Yeee I've seen the previews so I was hoping it was gonna come out soon 💜

[formal thorn]

Really depends

I almost want to wait for v50 slightly because next lll will require authors to make some small changes

[limpid portal]

I somewhat agree, I just wish we had a concrete v50 release date

[formal thorn]

Either way I need abit more time to get everything setup the way it needs to for the future so in chillin

[ashen walrus]

with the way zeekers made lethal company so far. i wouldn’t be surprised if he’s caught up trying to fix whatever new bugs that came with the new content he added.

[formal thorn]

That applies for most devs but ye

[mystic radish]

He did share that he has a list of things he wanted to be fixed before the release so yeah

[limpid portal]

As long as he doesn't make SLAI irrelevant :'3

[weak socket]

I have a question

Are there ever any bugs you have to fix yourself in your code for a mod to work

But your mod breaks in a game update

Cuz the bug you had to fix got fixed in the main game?

[formal thorn]

possibly yeah

[weak socket]

Is that something you're worried about with v50?

[formal thorn]

yeah

[weak socket]

Ya know, it's cool being able to talk to you

I'm not used to being in communities and being able to directly interact with people who make cool things

[formal thorn]

haha 😭 i do be just a guy

modding communities are great because its a good gateway into mixing users with devs I think

[limpid portal]

He's just a chef, he puts his chef hat on one head at a time

[thorn warren]

How many heads does batby have???

[limpid portal]

||That's classified||

[fading yacht]

less than infinity and more than 0

[limpid portal]

The other concerning bit about my statement is how many holes his hat has

[steady carbon]

@limpid portal Big boi looks so silly on Solace but I love it, it looks even stranger when he spawns on Triskelion XD

[limpid portal]

lmaoooo I love it

Triskelion is definitely an immersion breaker there 🤭

[mystic radish]

btw wasn't there supposed to be a Solace update that added grass ?

[limpid portal]

Yep, that'll be the next update. I got sidetracked with the interior and now that v50 and the next LLL update are on the horizon I figured maybe I should just wait and release everything together at once

[mystic radish]

Any other changes will be made to Solace's visual?

[tepid palm]

i like adding them as a low spawn chance on auralis. Me and friends always get excited whenever one spawns in and messes up all the normal giants for us as we're heading down that long path to the ship

[limpid portal]

I tend to adjust lighting and fog elements here and there, but the only other major thing besides grass is that I dirtied up the landing pad

[limpid portal]

omg I love that! Such good theming there

[tepid palm]

anywhere where there is giants i tend to add them with a lower spawn rate

[weak socket]

I honestly wouldn't use that mod cuz the design is too goofy

[thorn warren]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-anime-cry-gif-27049074

yeah same

im sure the creator probably put 0 work on the design, probably stole it off of some sketchy website

[sharp sequoia]

That’s so true Xu, I hope I never even talk with that creator

[ashen walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/shujinkou-btr-bocchi-the-rock-anime-pat-gif-27042350

it's okay Xu. maybe not everyone likes it, but i think there's a good amount of people who do. just look at your download count. i love your mod and appreciate the effort put in it. im honestly impress by how many firsts you've done for such an ambitious mod.

[thorn warren]

damn, thats nicer to hear than you think 😭, anyway ill leave before star kills me for getting compliments in his thread

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/shotgun-shocked-deusvult-gif-20969895

[vocal turtle]

🤣

[steady carbon]

@limpid portal does ghost girl spawn on your moons at all? I'm gonna guess she probably spawns on Auralis lol

Just adding the custom moons she can't spawn on to my ghost codes config lol

[limpid portal]

She's a very rare spawn on Auralis and Triskelion (weight of 2 lol)

[steady carbon]

I'm surprised you didn't give her a higher spawn chance on Auralis since Auralis tends to be in line with T3 planets 😆

[limpid portal]

I figured she's too much of a nuisance with all of the giants and dogs that can spawn that making her too common would just be unfun

[steady carbon]

Haha fair

[limpid portal]

I try to somewhat balance my moons for people that don't wanna spend time configuring everything 🤭

[tender ember]

ayo??? how does starlancer work with custom enemies?????
i though lll was broken

[limpid portal]

Use LLLfixed for now

[tender ember]

i am using it, i thought it had the same issue

until i saw enemies on auralis lol

[steady carbon]

She coming for you

[limpid portal]

@thorn warren come get your child

[tepid palm]

He proceeded to step on all the baboon hawks and mess them up

which was pretty funny

[thorn warren]

i should probably get around to allowing them to damage baboon hawks

dunno why but i've been pretty lazy about writing 2 lines of code for that 😂

[tepid palm]

HE DOESNT

then what killed them

[tepid raptor]

oh?

[tepid palm]

do they kill each other??

[thorn warren]

it only checks for dog afaik

[tepid raptor]

Weird, I wonder why it murdered the baboon hawks then xD

[tepid palm]

it proly didnt
i never saw them die, i saw a pile of their corpses at his feet

[thorn warren]

odd, i wonder how that happened too

i might as well code it in now lol

[tepid palm]

my best guess is my friends did kill them, and then a surviving one ran off with the bodies and placed them in his nest, which also happened to be where the giant was stomping

since we got sell bodies on

[thorn warren]

hmm i wonder if it'd be better to disinclude some enemies rather than include all enemies

[tepid palm]

uhh... depends
If you're basing it more off vanilla, than disincluding makes more sense, since vanilla likes to hardcode certain enemies to interact in certain ways
Personally tho, i prefer it when enemies have more kinda general behaviour that applies to all, it leads way to more emergent gameplay and dynamic stuff which i like

Like a player being able to lead any enemy they encounter outside, such as ones from lethal escape or ones that are coded to spawn outdoors like in Starlancer's moons, to a redwood giant to try and have him step on them

[thorn warren]

good enough condition for me

oh i should probably check if the enemy is dead

[sand lion]

the lighting issues are sometimes bright lights that flicker when inside the facility

i forgot if it happens on vanilla interiors or not

[limpid portal]

What moon and what interior have you noticed it on?

[sand lion]

but its probably not an interior issue since it only happened when on your moons and happened way too often to not be a moon thing

[formal thorn]

Could be a light limit

[sand lion]

SDM and Sector-0's interior, on trsikelion and solace

[sand lion]

it might be tbf

[limpid portal]

While working on the warehouse I discovered you can only have 64 area lights on screen so depending on generation it could be down to the interior

[sand lion]

so prob a bad interior+moon mix?

[limpid portal]

Possibly. Tri and Sol aren't very large dungeons tho

But try those interiors on a vanilla moon please

I don't wanna chase ghosts rn 😭

[sand lion]

sector-0 is very large

sdm is somewhat large ig?

[limpid portal]

Oh right, I forgot for a sec that dungeons have a size themselves

[sand lion]

never happened on rend and rosie's moons

lemme try with just your moons and the interiors

[limpid portal]

Rend has a small dungeon multiplier, try it on March

[sand lion]

oke

[limpid portal]

Warehouse has a lot of potential light generation and I've managed to have it not flicker on Auralis, so I feel like it has to be interior-related

Maybe I should come up with a better name lmao

[sand lion]

was probably due to the light limit

i can't reproduce it anymore even on your moons

[limpid portal]

Yaaaay not my fault :3

[sand lion]

for sdm it was prob due to default size bright preset + what we already had in the ship

...and sector 0 because of how insanely large it is

[limpid portal]

Well in other Warehouse news, I'll be peeking at the breaker box and big door stuff today

[tepid raptor]

Its fixed btw

I cut down the size a ton

Its actually manageable now xD

[limpid portal]

Sector-0 be like:

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-shrink-gif-21264124

[tepid raptor]

xD

Shrinking

It shouldve fixed both the audio and scrap issues though

[vocal turtle]

@limpid portal
I cannot remember if I asked this already. What was the spawn weight for the Giants on Auralis?

[limpid portal]

@vocal turtle

[vocal turtle]

Ty so much!
I lost my note of it!

[limpid portal]

No prob :3

Might change it next update tho since there's new enemies in v50

[stiff pendant]

oh yeah

[vocal turtle]

Roger

[stiff pendant]

the new ||old birds (mechs)|| seem like a nice fit for Auralis

[weak socket]

wuh

absolutely not

how tf are you supposed to get back to the ship

those things have better sight than giants

you cant hide even with buildings around

[stiff pendant]

the trees?

[weak socket]

they have rocket boots plus rocket launcher

how are you supposed to hide behind a tree before you're exploded away with rockets

[stiff pendant]

ah about that, apparently the rockets are designed to shoot around you, not directly at you

so if you stand still, you don't get hit

[weak socket]

hm

i dunno if thats reliable

clip i found on yt

[stiff pendant]

true since that guy is on this moon

well mechanically it might a bit rough, but aesthetically i'd say the ||mechs|| fit auralis pretty well

especially with that new starlancer interior coming out

[weak socket]

maybe rare chance for like

1 to spawn

[limpid portal]

spoiler

[weak socket]

cuz they do kill giants

[limpid portal]

100%, got it

[stiff pendant]

they do annihilate other creatures

[limpid portal]

but nah, I might make it super rare if I put them there at all, but I have a different, un-created moon in mind that they'd be perfect on

[idle tree]

Has anyone tried spawning one inside? Does it break the game / do something differently?

[stiff pendant]

gotcha

[weak socket]

.>

[limpid portal]

The moon I have in mind would have an extremely difficult exterior

[stiff pendant]

now you have my attention 👀

[weak socket]

||old birds|| make any exterior extremely difficult

[keen marsh]

please 🙏

[keen marsh]

AYO

don't add them everywhere 😭

[limpid portal]

do you want a ||military installation moon with turrets and landmines placed outside||

[stiff pendant]

jesus

[keen marsh]

bruh

[stiff pendant]

that sounds incredible

[limpid portal]

Solace > Easy
Triskelion > Medium
Auralis > Hard
NewIdea > Hell

[stiff pendant]

yoooo post auralis

[keen marsh]

oh shit

[limpid portal]

Inside loot would be baller as hell ofc

[keen marsh]

make titan 3x higher ||with oldbirds|| 🤭

[stiff pendant]

does that mean auralis is getting nerfed?

[limpid portal]

and it wouldn't be as jetpack cheese-able as Auralis

[limpid portal]

god no

[weak socket]

auralis and triskelion are perfect

[stiff pendant]

ah, but it's currently better than that new vanilla moon despite being cheaper

[weak socket]

100% best modded moons

they fit the game very well

[stiff pendant]

scrap value i mean

[weak socket]

and play well

[stiff pendant]

not general difficulty, that's fine the way it is

[limpid portal]

Auralis will get some optional exterior mechanics at some point (same with Tri and Sol)
I saw some reports that the new moon is hidden? What's its cost?

[stiff pendant]

||1500||

from my testing, the scrap it gives is:

[keen marsh]

and the scrap is absolute baller

[stiff pendant]

||1800-2400||

more or less

but auralis is still better atm

[limpid portal]

I see, so like 10% less than Auralis on avg then

[stiff pendant]

yeah

but double the cost

[limpid portal]

Yea if that's the balance Zeekers wants for vanilla I'll adjust it

[stiff pendant]

gotcha

[limpid portal]

Since modpack makers and other modders can adjust it themselves if they feel it's too high

[stiff pendant]

true

tbh i have a feeling zeekers might tone down the price of the hidden moon

to like 1000

because jumping from 700 to 1500 is a bit much for most people

[limpid portal]

I've considered a bump to 1250 for Auralis, but 1k would probably be a good all-around number

idk how difficult new moon is obv, but Auralis is risky and I think that justifies a more moderate price

[weak socket]

extra

[stiff pendant]

extremely

[weak socket]

its almost impossible to survive

[stiff pendant]

new moon is rough if you don't have jetpack

there is no counterplay against those ||mechs|| right now

besides standing still for the rockets i guess

somehow zeekers did it

he made a moon harder than any modded moon out there

by adding a single enemy

[limpid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-jojos-bizarre-adventure-good-grief-anime-gif-16726675

time to get to work

[weak socket]

well

technically there is

they're easy to hide from

[stiff pendant]

depends on the map

[weak socket]

and if you get good enough

you can use their rockets agaisnt them

[stiff pendant]

that's a good point

[weak socket]

by giving yourself a speed boost

[limpid portal]

...can they die?

[weak socket]

uh

no idea

i think worms can kill them

but that might be it

[stiff pendant]

only when eaten by worms yeah

[limpid portal]

damn

[weak socket]

dunno if they can be stunned or not

[stiff pendant]

worms still at the top of the food chain

[weak socket]

havent been able to test

[stiff pendant]

i've heard they can

[limpid portal]

I had a great idea but maybe I can still implement it elsewhere

Can they be stunned?

[weak socket]

no clue

[limpid portal]

It would make sense that they could

[weak socket]

i'll have to test that with my gf when we play tonight

[stiff pendant]

allegedly yes

i have no idea for how long though

[limpid portal]

Well while I make no promises whatsoever, if I do get around to that hell moon I will look into implementing
||A mounted gun battery that can stun enemies that it hits but you have to lure them into position||
But that's something I do not yet know how to do, so do not get too excited

[stiff pendant]

custom programming? 👀

[limpid portal]

I think what it would involve is ||setting the stun timer to decent value and triggering the function when a raycast hits an enemy, also producing an explosion particle effect||, but that's just off the top of my head

[stiff pendant]

well whatever it may be, i just hope the balancing process goes smoothly

bcuz i'll be honest the biggest threat of these new ||mechs|| is the fact they constantly camp our ship

it's why jetpack is so necessary, to get away from them as fast as possible

[limpid portal]

It'd be easy to prevent that on a custom moon, just set up the environment in such a way that having a different navmesh type makes sense so that you can justify them not venturing too close

However if they see you that'd still pose a problem

The mechanic I want would have like a 10s cooldown as well, but the big trick would be client synchronization

[stiff pendant]

well, the issue is that if they spot you, they immediately ||fly high into the sky and then attempt to land on on you, dealing 70 stomp damage||

these bozos are overtuned as heck

[limpid portal]

well damn

||put an umbrella over the ship||

[stiff pendant]

trueee

also nerfs jetpack but oh well

[limpid portal]

Worth 🤭

But yea that sounds tough

[stiff pendant]

well, ||the stomp itself is easy to dodge. but the issue is that the mech is now directly next to you||

[limpid portal]

I'd probably hand-place them on HellMoon and not let them naturally spawn

[stiff pendant]

sounds like a plan

they already ||spawn immediately at the start of the day (inactive), and have a chance to activate later on during the day, similar to enemies spawning||

[limpid portal]

interesting, hopefully the retain that behavior as prefabs

[stiff pendant]

it's a bit bizarre bcuz if the enemy power cap is already full, those things can't turn active, despite their models arleady being in the map

oh btw they have a power lvl of 3

[limpid portal]

What I could do in that case is ||set the power level to 6 and place 3-5 of them so that only 2 could turn active, and also hand-place every enemy with 0 natural spawns||

[stiff pendant]

that could work

also i just wanna mention that the forest giant is kind of a pushover now

||dogs and baboon hawks now attack the giant, while the giant doesn't even fight back||

literal bullying

just something to keep in mind for future balancing

[idle tree]

That's very interesting, wonder if he will later

[stiff pendant]

yeah i'm wondering if its passive behaviour is a bug

[limpid portal]

||Well the giant can't die right? Do they stun it???||

[idle tree]

It can now

[stiff pendant]

uhhh

well

||https://youtu.be/f6qc0_7GgfA?feature=shared||