Lethal company variables [Configure everything to your liking]. (formally LethalCompanyVariables )

[fast gull]

lol

[unreal cairn]

that's awkward

[fast gull]

dont worry, I have done the same a lot of times already

[unreal cairn]

i just always forget that closing console also closes your game

but the good news is its not the problem of your mod

just my brain

so thank you for help once again XD

and sorry for wasting time

[fast gull]

dont worry, glad to help!

[native cloak]

It is

[marble depot]

i was trying it out today, is it supposed to freeze on the black screen after clicking online every single time or should it only be the first startup, because atm, it both freezes when clicking online and when exiting a lobby, for like a good 10 minutes

[fast gull]

Let me explain.

Right now when there are many custom moons installed, Configurable Company will take some time to load due to the large amount of configurations per level that exist, this process takes time because it has to create the menu screen with configuration entries every time the menu loads, it takes a while if there a lot of moons but the game is not frozen nor unresponsive.

There is an optimization update that will come as soon as posible (as much as 2 days or so because Im very busy) that will solve this issues and even add a loading bar so it does not feel like the game is frozen.

For now I can provide the experimental build or as player you can disable some custom moons to accelerate the loading process.

Im sorry for any inconvenience that this problem may cause

[marble depot]

i see, so what is happening is that during the "freeze" configurable company is just creating the menu and i guess the same happens in reverse, so, when you quit, it has to destroy the menu

perhaps then this mod is a lot more complete than what i need it for, my only use for this mode would be just removing a specific mob from all moons

[fast gull]

destroying the menu is instant

but going back to the menu from a game still needs the menu to load

[fast gull]

you can do what you want, among a lot of other stuff, but if you just want to modify that you pretty much can, you could even play with people without the mod in most cases

is just a temporal issue about some optimizations that need to be made

[marble depot]

i'll check it out again after the optimizations have been made, having per save configuration definitively seems nice

[fast gull]

yea, if you receive an update notification via r2modman about Configurable company, it will certanly be the optimizations, with them it should go 10 times faster

[marble depot]

i use gale actually

r2modman is very damn slow and unstable

thundestore has ads, which i'm like, 100% against

[fast gull]

I never had problems with r2modman, anyway if you receive an update notification for the mod in any platform, it will be this update

[marble depot]

nice, i'll be waiting

[fast gull]

alternatively I will post a message when the update is released

im not sure how does discord notify people in threads as I wont be using everyone so.... xD

[marble depot]

ping red 1 on server

[fast gull]

wdym?

[marble depot]

just regular ping

[fast gull]

alright, I will ping you then :)

[flat dagger]

602 hours in lethal company is crazy lol

[fast gull]

who does have that many hours?

wait a second

how tf you know how many hours do I have

[flat dagger]

ur steam info is public

and its linked to ur discord account lol

[fast gull]

I was thinking about it while thinking about it

even tho that seems like does not make much sense

[flat dagger]

i was thinking about it while thinking about it 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[fast gull]

in fact I would say its nonsense

god im to tired

[flat dagger]

I was thinking about it while i was thining about while you where thinking about it while thinking about it

[fast gull]

im trying to finish the update while im still with my job

[fast gull]

recursive thinking

[flat dagger]

lol

[fast gull]

so the update is going pretty good

2k configs loaded in a matter of miliseconds

[flat dagger]

👍

[native cloak]

I don't have that many hours in Lethal but I just found out I hit over 15k hours on Fortnite like 100 hours ago

[native cloak]

another sleepless night

let's go

[fast gull]

thats a fucking lot

I dont even think I have that many hours in minecraft

[fast gull]

this time is due to the incompetence of some people in my job, who has been delaying a critial task for over an hour

[native cloak]

It's actually sooo much that the launcher doesn't even tell me how much. I have to check another way

[native cloak]

must not be that critial lol

[fast gull]

thats a freaking lot

I dont even have that many hours in my life or something

[fast gull]

The problem is, it is, is so critical I had to wake up 2 project managers to authorize all the operations required

[native cloak]

I did the math and that checks out to about 2 years of GAME TIME

that's like 10% of my life and I have only been playing for 7 years

[fast gull]

wow

that amazes me

and im not sure if its even in the good way lol

[native cloak]

It isn't

but it is a fun fact to bring up from time to time

[fast gull]

alright, the update should be finished yet due to how tired I am I wil post it in the morning (around 9 hours from now), if anyone wants to test it out, you have like 5 minutes to request the files before I literally fall asleep in the ground

[native cloak]

I'm good, update should be right before I start birthday stream plus I don't use modded moons.

[fast gull]

two freaking hours for a critical issue that prevented the whole application from loading, insane

[fast gull]

isnt your birthday like on saturday?

[native cloak]

nope, it's on the 20th (Which I guess it probably already is for you lol)

[fast gull]

anyway, would love to play some games w u during the stream, might be fun

[native cloak]

ight, I'll let you know

[fast gull]

it's been for 3 hours now, so happy birthday lol

[fast gull]

perfect

now if you excuse me

https://tenor.com/view/fall-asleep-falling-asleep-sleepy-doze-off-dozing-off-gif-10742301

[native cloak]

you are living in the future lol

[fast gull]

@here @marble depot @storm wagon
Although is not really this mod, Configurable company has been update with all the optimizations. You can expect the update to be available at thunderstore in a few minutes

Here is the changelog in case anyone wonders to know what has changed.

3.6.0

Fixed

• Added a loading screen to represent the progress loading the mod and menu
• Added code optimizations to load 10 times faster

Added

• Seeds now will be saved with the configurations

Modified

• Presets will not default to any specific preset, rather it will remain empty until one is selected

Anyways, as always, I would love if you guys report your issues to the github, or if you want to support my creations, give it a star as I will never ask for money!
https://github.com/TheAnsuz/Lethal-Company-Configurable-Company-API

[marble depot]

nice!

[marble depot]

can lcv control the probability of default map spawn, i want to remove the mineshaft complitely from all planets but i don't see an option to control that

[native cloak]

At this moment no but I think he's trying to make that

[flat dagger]

also making and deleting presets are really weird

it only shows that you made or deleted a preset when u reload the stuff (aka joining and leaving a lobby)

[flat dagger]

also sorry for the ping lol

[fast gull]

yea in still seeing how to make this propertly with custom interior support

[fast gull]

doesnt it automatically appear?

uhu, it should tho...

[flat dagger]

well it didnt for me so uh

[fast gull]

I will check it then

maybe with the update something didnt load correctly

[errant grove]

hello

here it says decimal number, in the Turret Spawn Multiplier

if is not decimal thing

they in the green line says "Whole number range"

In the case of the Turret, does it always have to have a comma? Or how does it work to increase and have a considerable amount without exaggerating too much? Suggested values? I was testing with an integer, 30, and it seemed to work, and it wasn't full of turrets, so I suspect that 30 became 3.0, I think? So I was testing with I think 10.1, but it was also a moderate amount, so I was a bit confused.

[errant grove]

100 worked like....more have appeared so I'm kind of confused

[errant grove]

oh

are multipliers. So 1.5 is 50% more than normal (which is 1), right?

1.5 or 1.5, does it matter, period or comma?

[errant grove]

(also 1.75 also works right)

[fast gull]

Sorry @errant grove I dont think I understand your question.

If the tooltip says its a multiplier it means that rather than appearing that amount of turrets, it will modify vanilla so it... multiplies what vanilla chooses. For the othee thing, using period or comma depends on your language but you cant write a period if your language does not support it so you should not worry about that

bue yea, maybe 30 multiplier can appear 30 turrets or just 7, depending on what level you are and rng

let me know if that answers your question or you wish to know more about how it works

[errant grove]

I wanted to understand how this part actually worked because I was confused

but thanks anyway >.>

[fast gull]

I hope you understand it now, if not, let me know!

[patent sable]

thank you that you added that thing to customize spawns of scrap on planets, did anyone else suggested it or you did it because felt like so?

[fast gull]

it was planned since.... well, it was always planned and many people also wanted it to be added, so it was a group effort from everyone who liked and suggested the mod

[patent sable]

thank you very much

[fast gull]

thank you for using the mod!

[daring rock]

using this and it's awesome and i'd recommend it to anybody but sadly lost a metiqiously made preset because there's no prompt on "are you sure you want to save" because load and save are next to eachother

https://tenor.com/view/emo-fighting-demons-urges-resist-school-gif-4129496607218615888

and there's generally not a lot of feedback when you do things

[balmy hedge]

I feel you so hard

[daring rock]

restore saved values didn't save me

[balmy hedge]

make sure to save and then save preset so you don't lose stuff

then load to make sure it all went thru

I do that periodically

[daring rock]

yea i do that too

[fast gull]

Id recommend saving important stuff as preset but I also understand your issue, I will add prompts, also you dont need to load everytime

[fast gull]

restore brings back values from the last saved point

[daring rock]

yea makes sense

[fast gull]

but yea no problem, im modifying some stuff of the mod so I can add feedback and prompts

[native cloak]

Ya, it's a little bit weird but you get used to it

[daring rock]

yeah you get used to it but it'd still be nice to have

eitherway ty dev

I was tinkering a lot with my preset because I'm still configuring it to work with my profile and that's why I saved so much

[native cloak]

ya, just always save config first then save preset

[fast gull]

good luck with that, if you are having trouble with any config let me know!

[daring rock]

yeaaa

took a bit to find out but I found out pretty quick

[daring rock]

yeah I'll holler don't worry

thanks

[fast gull]

thank you"!

[native cloak]

Can you send your profile code?

lol, all good

You saved the preset you were using right?

I got an error when trying to import it for some reason

[fast gull]

Unchecked configurations should disable LCV from modifying those settings

this is to avoid modifying modded stuff that you dont want

so you might need to just remove every enemy (set to 0)

I think the tooltip says about why or when you should check/uncheck those settings

[native cloak]

Ya Tolian Moons is hating me

[fast gull]

but yea, pretty much that, everything that can be unchecked is so LCV does not modify vanilla behavior

yea, with the time there are a lot of things, I understand

there are around 2k configurations just for vanilla stuff now... lol

[native cloak]

@fast gull You should make a search bar

[fast gull]

hmmmm, I could give it a try

[native cloak]

That would be more of a config company thing but would be very helpful for searching for key words and stuff

[fast gull]

yea, all of that stuff like feedback, prompts, search bar, is for CC to implement

[native cloak]

I forgot how long Lethal takes to load with a ton of mods lol

Also @fast gull How does LCV determine the label colors for custom moons? Is it just random?

[fast gull]

is an algorithm that uses the name of the moon to determine its color

[native cloak]

oh really? How so?

[fast gull]

well... I dont remember really lol

[native cloak]

lol

[fast gull]

alright I checked it

it bets the bytes from the name and uses them to form a numeric seed that is used to choose 3 values, red, green and blue

[native cloak]

Oh, so it uses the name to determine the rgb?

[fast gull]

yea

[native cloak]

That's cool

[fast gull]

I've used some clever tricks to make the mod compatible with almost all modded content so yea

[native cloak]

Do all of the other config labels also use this algorithm to determine the color or are they just set manually?

[fast gull]

labels that are dynamic generated use it, those that always there are just set by me

so I can choose a color that represent that config stuff

[native cloak]

That's cool

I didn't notice how much was actually put into custom moon support (Since I don't run custom moons) which actually kind of amazes me

Also @strange dragon , I can not find the preset you used for your braken spawns but I'm pretty sure the solution that AMRV gave you is the correct one. Let me know if you are still having issues

[fast gull]

thank you, it was very complex to do but now there is modded support for moons and enemies, adding the thing that you can have custom enemies in custom moons, which by default is not very posible

[fast gull]

yea, let us know if you have any trouble with it

[native cloak]

Ya, custom enemies having config settings for custom moons is huge.

I'm impressed you were able to get that to work

[fast gull]

funny enough that was the easiest part lol

the worst was to have everything loaded before the game loads them

[native cloak]

gotta be fast

[fast gull]

more like, moons and enemies do not load (have their value set) until you enter the game, so I had to come up with a way to have then "loaded" before that and being able to modify them regardless of them being loaded or not

[native cloak]

lol, sounds scuffed

[daring rock]

modding is inherently scuffed

[fast gull]

glad to see it worked!

[daring rock]

oh yeah is this normal

[fast gull]

huh, seems like imgur.com is not enjoying the images

try from the github wiki, it should work there https://github.com/TheAnsuz/Lethal-Company-Configurable-Company-API/wiki/user_usage

[daring rock]

cool thanks

[wispy haven]

So I have an issue with the mod not syncing with other players. Everyone has the mod installed but the prices for items and moons don't sync. Stats dont sync either. Everything works for me as the host. I was hoping to get help on why that's the case.

[fast gull]

That seems weird at first, let them verify their profile just in case something loaded incorrectoy

[balmy hedge]

Looking into configurating stuff again, are there any known issues with the mod? Any holes in the configs (aka stuff that the mod doesn't let you config)?

[daring rock]

known issues is that it's pretty flat but generally it is indepth

technical wise idk

holes not aware of

[fast gull]

if you mean like errors of stuff that does not work, no, everything should work fine at the exception of some visual glitches from time to time

[fast gull]

what you mean by flat lol

[balmy hedge]

I remember shops and stuff used to be desync'd last time I used this, do clients also need to select the variables profile I use manually even if it's the only one available?

[fast gull]

everything is automatically synchronized, no need to share configs at all

[balmy hedge]

oh thats really cool actually!

[wispy haven]

So I tried it again after rechecking profiles and everything and it's still desynced unfortunately

[native cloak]

That's weird

Is it desynced between them too or is it just with the host?

[wispy haven]

well I tested it by changing the speed and stamina and they all have the default values still. Mine stays updated though

same with shop prices

so its synced for them i guess, in the sense that it never changed for them

[native cloak]

Are you using any other mods and have you tried reimporting your own profile?

[wispy haven]

ya the last thing i just tried was remaking my profile by importing

and it was the same

[native cloak]

Mh that's weird

[wispy haven]

i guess i havent tried disabling every mod but lethal company variables

and then turning them on

and seeing which one is the culprit

[native cloak]

Ya, you should try that

disable half of them and start from there

[fast gull]

@wispy haven can you and one of your friends share the console logs?

[wispy haven]

is it the "LogOutput.log" file?

[fast gull]

inside the bepinex folder, yea

[wispy haven]

that should be it

[fast gull]

can you also share the log from one of your friends who does not see is synchronized?

[wispy haven]

thats one that doesnt synchronize

the price of the boombox should be 1

[fast gull]

oh okay

[wispy haven]

and the stats should be different

[fast gull]

can you share the log from the host too?

[wispy haven]

ya

[fast gull]

thanks

[wispy haven]

I'm checking the log and it says the that boombox is still the default $60 on mine 🤔

[fast gull]

Here it says the price is changed

[wispy haven]

oh then nvm. I guess I read the wrong part then

[fast gull]

however seems like for some reason the value for your friends is not receiving the change

[wispy haven]

the thing is that one of my friends was able to see the clock inside the facility a bit back which requires sychronization i think

[fast gull]

how many friends were you playing with?

[wispy haven]

usually 5

though this log was just me testing with one other person

well that last session

[fast gull]

alright, I will try to replicate the issue

might need to ask you a favor, can you open this as an issue in the mod's github?

is just so I can organize it and dont forget

[wispy haven]

ya sure

[fast gull]

thanks :)

[wispy haven]

can i get a link to it, just to make sure its the right one

[fast gull]

yea sure! https://github.com/TheAnsuz/Lethal-Company-Configurable-Company-API/issues

you can also go directly here with the issues button inside the game

[wispy haven]

ah okay, just wanted to make sure it was configurable company

[fast gull]

perfect!

[wispy haven]

okay its posted!

[fast gull]

I see it

[wispy haven]

that reminds me that increasing the facility size desynced as well I'm assuming. It looked like people were going through walls if I had it scaled up. I had to scale it back to 1x. Probably all part of the same issue.

[fast gull]

yea, seems like synchronization is not working for some reason

[fast gull]

Updates for configurable company are coming in the following days for general optimizations, memory management and stability, do you guys have any suggestion to add to the mod's base?

[wispy haven]

Maybe things like being able to adjust the players stamina bar. That and decouple the movement speed option so that you can adjust regular walking speed and sprint speed separately. I can't really think of anything else at the moment though

[fast gull]

those are good suggestions, however I was thinking more about the underlaying mod (the one that creates the menu in game)

but I will keep those suggestions for LCV regardless

[native cloak]

Did you add a search bar? I kind of forgot to make a post lol

[fast gull]

this update I only focused on optimizations, but I can work on that among other small stuff that was asked

[native cloak]

I see

[brittle falcon]

Hi!
I have a question.
If I have finished a monster or a scrap list setting with this mod, and I add a new monster/scrap mod, does that monster/scrap get's automatically added to the list or I have to add it manually?

[fast gull]

Uh, Im not sure I understood you, when you add any new enemy/scrap it gets added to the list of configurations but disabled by default (so the default configuration from the original mod will be used) you jsut need to add that new enemy's value

[untold vector]

Helloo, is there a way to disable this Populating menu updating configs thing, it takes a long while to go away, lags my menu, and doesn't go away for my friends

[fast gull]

Do you happen by chance to have installed a lot of custom moons?

[untold vector]

Yeah

[fast gull]

its just the stuff loading, you can ignore it if you wont modify configurations tho

wdym that it does not go away for your friends?

[untold vector]

I'll send you a clip showing the pov of a friend

[fast gull]

yea, thats perfect

[untold vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1218423050739912704/1292305652957319178/8mb.video-tYH-ffrd3NiS.mp4?ex=67150d2d&is=6713bbad&hm=dd77d1335b702ed6bf0b6353fb497b96def1e4ee764145cf189b428ef2323db2&

for all my friends the pop up remains while in game, but for me it doesn't even if i don't let it finish

[fast gull]

yea, it should just be deleted and the loading canceled

can you share your profile code so I can fix that?

[untold vector]

sure, fair warning they are alot of mods lmao

0192a669-d965-352c-9f50-168b4fde2ed3

[fast gull]

I suspected that when you said the menu lags lol

can you also let me know how much RAM is being occupied by LC?

[untold vector]

around 15-18 gigs

i have 32

[fast gull]

well... the menu lagging with that many mods might just be a limitation of unity's engine for single-thread loading stuff

I will see what I can do for that, the thing that the bar remains in game is definetly something ill be fixing right now lol

[untold vector]

Yeah, but the menu laggin is not really a big deal, it's just like 15 fps, i kinda figured too it was because i had too many mods

[untold vector]

Alr thanks alot

[fast gull]

Seems like I might have a little trouble testing your modpack, I, in no way can open two times the game at the same time lol

[untold vector]

lmao

maybe with only the moons

and interiors

[fast gull]

@untold vector seems like the mod takes some time to load because due to the amount of custom moons, there are a total of 26000 configurations

[untold vector]

jesus

[daring rock]

makes sense

[fast gull]

Im still finding a logical resolution for the menu issue (to avoid unreleased resources) but it should be done in a day or so

[native cloak]

That is a lot of customization

[brave meteor]

is it possible to specify spawn rate changing on moons that isnt the default spawn location for an enemy? for example i wanted to edit the spawn rate of the Hygrodere on Fission-C (a modded moon where Hygrodere's can spawn outside) to spawn more often outside but looking through i dont see an option to configure spawn rates of inside and outside separately, is there any way to do this?

[fast gull]

for now you can only modify the spawn rates where they originally belong, there was a suggestion to implement that but I didnt have time to implement it yet

[brave meteor]

alr 👍 nw

[native cloak]

Wait

Is there an update for Lethal?

[brave meteor]

secondary question, is there any way to override modded monsters spawn rates? ive been trying to disable certain modded monsters on certain maps by setting their spawn chance to 0 but they seem to still spawn

[native cloak]

yes

you have to check the box where the enemy is located to edit it's spawn chance

[brave meteor]

oh okay so if i enable it and keep it 0 itll then use that override?

[native cloak]

Ya, if you check the box and set there spawn chance to 0, it shouldn't spawn them at all

[brave meteor]

okay awesome ill give it a shot, thanks 👍

[native cloak]

ya no problem, let me know how it goes

[fast gull]

seems like cooljs already answered lol

[native cloak]

Ya, I basically know your own mod as good as you except the code

[brave meteor]

orrrrr the enemy just stops appearing in the moon lists i guess that uh makes this harder

[native cloak]

wait what?

[brave meteor]

i swapped from TGS to code rebirth since the monsters are getting ported over

redwood atleast

restarting rn cuz maybe it needs to regenerate configs or something

i got 2 LCV related errors but neither should be related to this

[native cloak]

What were the error?

[brave meteor]

hrm yeah restarting didnt help

[native cloak]

All you did was replace a mod?

[brave meteor]

yeah i uninstalled TheGiantSpecimens and installed CodeRebirth

both contain enemies

[native cloak]

Do both mods have the same enemies?

[brave meteor]

TGS had 2 giant enemies, 1 of which was ported over to CodeRebirth

the TGS enemies are no longer listed and none of the CodeRebirth monsters are listed

CodeRebirth has the ported over enemy, and 2 other enemies

i disabled the 2 other enemies but all 3 i assume should appear in LCV regardless

[native cloak]

CodeRebirth must handle enemies differently

[brave meteor]

thats possible yeah

[native cloak]

Ya, that's something @fast gull would have to look into

wait

@brave meteor is CodeRebirth updated to v55 yet?

[brave meteor]

it updated a week ago so i think so

lemme confirm

[native cloak]

v55 released a few days ago

[fast gull]

lol, you may be the only one then

[native cloak]

so it may just not work in general

[brave meteor]

oh

v65

[native cloak]

that's what I meant lol

[fast gull]

that might be bcs of the update

[brave meteor]

im not too sure then

ah okay yeah ill just wait then

👍

[fast gull]

anyway I dudnt understand your problem

[native cloak]

So time setting is broken currently?

[fast gull]

enemies continue appearing even after marked to not spawn (0 chance)

[brave meteor]

i misunderstood how the spawning configuration worked

they were set to 0 and disabled which i thought meant they cant spawn

but ive been told to actually override it it needs to be enabled

[native cloak]

ya

[fast gull]

but is it working after that?

[fast gull]

or did you experience issues regardless

[brave meteor]

i havent tested yet cuz the monster i wanted to configure isnt listed due to the above issue regarding v65

[fast gull]

what mod is it from?

[brave meteor]

CodeRebirth

[fast gull]

cuz it should detect it, unless the other mod is failing

but I need to check it, is just a guess

[brave meteor]

yeah im not 100% sure myself

[native cloak]

That's what we think is happening, the mod isn't updated to v65 yet and we think it's broken rn

[fast gull]

errors in the console?

[brave meteor]

didnt see any errors other than the 2 here on startup

[native cloak]

can you send log?

[brave meteor]

sure 1 sec

[fast gull]

I need to fix some stuff with CC before updating LCV, might need a few days

[native cloak]

@brave meteor is that the only mod you have that adds enemies or do you have more?

[brave meteor]

i have the Locker one and uhhh black mesa i think adds one

headcrab

lemme check if those are listed

i know i saw headcrab in there

[native cloak]

ya

peeper works

Wait @fast gull question. Does LCV auto update default chances for everything when the game updates or do you have to do that manually?

[fast gull]

manually

is the cost for compatibility

lol

[native cloak]

You can't auto set it for vanilla enemies only?

[fast gull]

maybe if I change some stuff

but due to how I have the mod created I can justr update everything from one version to another by running an special version of the mod that extracts everything

not sure it if would be worth, unless updates come daily lol

[brave meteor]

yeah i see ghost knight from scarlet mansion, peeper, and headcrab

i dont see locker now that im looking through

which is interesting

i never really checked cuz ive never had problems with the spawn rates but yeah i dont see it

[native cloak]

weird

is Locker also not updated to v65?

[brave meteor]

i dont think, so but i dont think the other 2 are either but maybe im wrong

[fast gull]

from long ago locker did work weird, I dont think it counts as an enemy

[brave meteor]

oh interesting

[native cloak]

Ya, check peeper and head crab

[fast gull]

like, whoever developed it didn't include it to be an enemy

[brave meteor]

i dont see the diversity ones either but idk if those are normal at all

[fast gull]

diversity ones should work, at least last time I checked lol

[native cloak]

maybe it's included as a trap or something

[brave meteor]

yeah scarlet devil mansion was updated over a month ago so its def not v65

yet the enemy still appears in the list

yeah i bet all these enemies still do work

its just odd how some dont appear in LCV

[native cloak]

weird

so locker and CodeRebirth must handle spawns differently than normal

[brave meteor]

yeah maybe

diversity more than likely does

the monsters from those have very specific mechanics

[fast gull]

I cant be sure

[fast gull]

it might depend on the implementation, maybe some work while others dont

[fast gull]

which mods adds diversity? I though it just replaced existing ones

[brave meteor]

diversity itself is a mod

[fast gull]

sorry, mobs*

[brave meteor]

if i understand the question

[fast gull]

which enemies does diversity add

[brave meteor]

walker and stalker iirc are the names

it also configures existing mobs but adds 2 new ones on top of that

watcher not stalker

close enough

so walker + watcher

[fast gull]

do they work correctly with the update?

[brave meteor]

im not too sure as i havent seen either since v65 came out, ill check

😭

sorry off topic but i saw this while testing and just had to screenshot

cuz wtf

[native cloak]

It's like a floating vent sighting lol

[brave meteor]

not sure if this is really an error

but it spammed this like crazy

[native cloak]

Looks like that moon doesn't have any scrap?

or something

[brave meteor]

just found some

so not too sure

[native cloak]

scrap value?

[brave meteor]

77 red soda

21 flashbang 47 axle

etc etc

[native cloak]

weird

[fast gull]

can you show me the full error? that might be about custom scraps from the level

[brave meteor]

scrap seems to be working fine so idk what the errors about tbh

[native cloak]

that's what I was thinking

[fast gull]

it is about scraps not having a configuration value assigned, although you should not really worry for it

[native cloak]

Would that just make the scrap worth 0?

[brave meteor]

interesting

[fast gull]

no, it would just not modify its value

I kinda forgot how did I implement it lol

[native cloak]

oh

[fast gull]

but should work fine regardless of the problem

[brave meteor]

the full log?

[fast gull]

no need

just that entry

[brave meteor]

not sure how much this helps

the LLL error at the top is interesting

related perhaps

[native cloak]

wait, that moon has a 0.4 scrap multiplier?

that sounds painful

[brave meteor]

eh?

should be default

[native cloak]

That is it's default

[native cloak]

or not?

[brave meteor]

all values are default except i cranked up the enemy power

its extremely busted balance wise lmao

low enemy power, extremely high scrap count

and free

💀

i was gonna set route price to 2k but set to 0 for testing

[fast gull]

thats default for the whole game

[brave meteor]

interesting, so its a separate global value within LC itself?

[native cloak]

I kind of play the opposite. Default scrap and 10x enemy spawns lol

[brave meteor]

im extremely bad so i dont mind busted maps here and there

[fast gull]

that might have something to do yea

[fast gull]

yea, not sure why is 0.4 instead of 1

[brave meteor]

well i got an answer for that

its LC

👍

why have anything make sense when it can be noodle code no one except us sees

and cries over daily

[native cloak]

lol

[fast gull]

looking though the LC code is a pain

[brave meteor]

the LC anything tbh

[fast gull]

although I've seen worse

[brave meteor]

that fucking kitchen texture on mansion is STILL NOT FIXEDDDDDD

its been driving me nuts for so long

[fast gull]

lol, which one

cuz the funniest thing is the map generation, its so scuffed sometimes

[brave meteor]

oh god you havent noticed

lucky

but since ive mentioned it i have to share

[brave meteor]

im sorry

i noticed this like the 2nd ever time i played on mansion

and its been driving me INSANE ever since

theres also a lot of just really poor optimization and bad UVs everywhere

what is this DISASTER

i could go on and on about the endless nightmares of this games behind the scenes lmao

but thats a conversation for another day

[native cloak]

lol

I just never noticed because I never had the time to notice when I got like 50 things chasing me down all the time lol

[brave meteor]

yeah its funny how despite how unbelievably bad the game is in many ways, i still am obsessed with it, both playing it a ton and making mods myself

[native cloak]

What kind of mods you make?

[brave meteor]

most of the issues performance wise most players dont notice unless they get into modding because default game with these issues is still somewhat easy to run on most PCs

model replacements mostly but i worked on an interior for a while as well

the interior is uh... on hiatus again though

for maybe the 6th time

[native cloak]

That's basically what's stopping me from setting spawns to 50x lol

[brave meteor]

okay can confirm the watcher works

just found one and its fully functional

[native cloak]

Does it show up in LCV config?

[brave meteor]

nah

AH FUCK THAT SCARED ME 😭

okay

both diversity monsters work

fuck i forgot how scary they are

💀

i must say seeing this in logs before seeing it ingame was mildly terrifying

so yea all enemies seem to work just some dont appear in LCV config

[fast gull]

wow I never noticed that, thats messed up

[fast gull]

me too lol

some methos and functions give me nightmares

[brave meteor]

still better than undertale code atleast

[fast gull]

for mine, the worst one was minecraft

lc has its issues but thanks to ILCode is pretty easy

to mod at least, the code itself is a mess lol

[native cloak]

@fast gull just to verify. If I have spawns set to 10x and I have starting enemies set to 1 it will spawn up to 10 enemies on spawn right?

or how exactly does it calculate starting enemies

[fast gull]

it should work as you say, but uses the vanilla spawn behavior so I dont know it it changed with this small update

[native cloak]

can confirm, it still works

Is there a way to make the setting support decimals? like you could set it to 0.1 and it would only spawn 1 enemy

[fast gull]

wouldnt that just be the same as setting it to 1?

[native cloak]

I mean if you have spawns set to 10x it would make only 1 enemy spawn at start

[fast gull]

that has been developed so long ago thatI can not remember if it is affected by the multiplier

does the tooltip say anything?¿

[native cloak]

It is, if I set it to 1 and have spawns set to 10, when I land, 10 enemies spawn

[fast gull]

I see

it does not make much sense to put decimals to be fair, but I can do that

open an issue in github just so I remember lol

I kinda forget stuff with how many things I need to change

[native cloak]

or you could make it so if you set it to 1 then only 1 enemy spawns

whichever one would be easier to do

[fast gull]

not being affected by the multiplier seems more reasonable

both are easy

is just to keep it simple so no one complains about it lol

[native cloak]

lol

Ya, I'll open an issue for you

[fast gull]

thanks

[native cloak]

I accidentally just found my first ever message lol

[fast gull]

how lol

[native cloak]

I went to the top and scrolled down a tiny bit

oh also, I ran into another floating vent btw

I also found out that enemies could just go straight throw them when chasing you

[fast gull]

is there a way to go to the top quickly?

[native cloak]

Apparently

[fast gull]

I didnt understand that

Oh yes, it is, I just found it lol

[fast gull]

wow, so long since I updated that text lmao

[native cloak]

It just doesn't have collision for enemies

but it does for players

[native cloak]

lol

[fast gull]

yea, those vents are next level weird

wait, you are playing the latest version with only LCV, right?

[native cloak]

They are like Bigfoot sightings lol

[fast gull]

is there anything in top of the console like this?

[native cloak]

basically yes

[native cloak]

I'll close game and check

like top top or do I have to scroll a bit?

[fast gull]

it should be almost at the top

[native cloak]

yep

[Warning:Configurable Company Variables] Unexpected index for patch SpawnScrapInLevel_Transpiler#260 Got 426 but was expecting 425: A mod (or game update) has patched/modified the same method as LCV and may cause conflicts under certain circumstances
[Warning:Configurable Company Variables] Unexpected index for patch SpawnScrapInLevel_Transpiler#268 Got 455 but was expecting 452: A mod (or game update) has patched/modified the same method as LCV and may cause conflicts under certain circumstances
[Warning:Configurable Company Variables] Unexpected index for patch SetNewProfitQuota_Transpiler#29 Got 37 but was expecting 79: A mod (or game update) has patched/modified the same method as LCV and may cause conflicts under certain circumstances

[fast gull]

thats very weird

[native cloak]

And I only got client side mods

[fast gull]

I got the source for the update but those methods seem to not have modifications

[native cloak]

I mean, do those settings still work?

[fast gull]

i have no clue

been so busy with the Configurable company update that I haven't checked

but as for what the other user said yesterday, there seems to be a bunch of stuff not working

[native cloak]

I'm putting this under feature request because I don't think it's a bug

[fast gull]

sure, no problem

[native cloak]

There, made it. You can rename it to whatever you want

[fast gull]

nah, it is perfect as it is

[native cloak]

I also didn't really add a description so it's just there as a reminder

[fast gull]

no problem

[native cloak]

oh also, how much do you know about v65 so far and how much can I spoil? I got a small config idea

it's nothing game changing

[fast gull]

I have not yet played it, just saw the source code

and yea, not much has changed, thats why its so weird so many things broke

[native cloak]

ya, so you know what's been added though right?

[fast gull]

not at all lol

[native cloak]

Ok, then I will keep this suggestion listed as a spoiler. ||Can you make it so you can modify the luck multiplier for this?||

[fast gull]

not sure when will I be able to play

with the updates to the mods, my other things to do and my friends all away, I might need some time lol

[native cloak]

lol, I'll wait to add it to the github

it isn't anything you will notice while playing the game though

you would only see it in code

[fast gull]

oh

yea, I already have a config for that in mind lol

I have already made some research on how it works lmao

[native cloak]

Sounds good

Really didn't want to spoil anything but I had a suggestion for it.

[fast gull]

Something very much awaited is coming with the next release of configurable company too

(I dont know how to make it look good so if no one complains thats how it is goint to look)

[daring rock]

nah this looks good

way better than anticipated actually

[fast gull]

thats good then

[sterile flame]

Hi can someone help me? The configuration does not seem to do anything regarding store prices and starting credits out of sudden.

Also the config load is veeeeery slow but thats due to huge amount of moons.

[fast gull]

some configs not working is due to the latest update for lethal company

the update is coming soon but I need some time to finish fixing everything

[fast gull]

for this issue is as you said, there are a lot of things you can configure and having a lot of moons may slow down the loading

[sterile flame]

The thing is, my amount of moons is still same as it was in march this year and the loading wasnt that slow. Might be cuz the moons got updated? Or Lethal company updates just screwed it over.

[daring rock]

probably LLL or lethal update

[sterile flame]

Anyway thanks, good to know there is a bugfix planned, does enemy configuration atleast work?

[sterile flame]

Always LLL ...

[fast gull]

its because the mod got updated to have configs for every item + enemy on the moons

[fast gull]

should yes

[fast gull]

in this case is not really LLL, other than more features in LCV, however im planning to allow "disabling" modules so loading does not take that long

[sterile flame]

Understandable, thank you!

[fast gull]

Everything should be fixed for the update, let me know what issues did you experience to verify that everything is ready to be updated!

[fast gull]

@here LCV has been updated to fix older issues and be compatible with the latest version of the game! If you encounter any further issues let me know to fix them ASAP

2.7.0

Added

• Randomizer now produces more coherent and balanced values

Fixed

• Synchronization issues regarding compatibility with other mods
• Randomizer errors
• Compatibility with v65
• Beehives and apparatus x2 value
• Floating vents (attempted, can't reproduce the issue anymore)

[sterile flame]

Credits are still not changed by the config but i suspect that might be other mod interference for some reason.

Imma let it load up and check it again just to be sure.

[native cloak]

Can't wait to break it

[sterile flame]

It is working!

[fast gull]

yea thats weird

[fast gull]

then perfect!

maybe it didnt update correctly the first time

glad to see everything works fine (for now)

[fast gull]

you might as well be hired for betatesting lol

[sterile flame]

Yeah its my fault, i probably loaded old preset or something.

[fast gull]

no worries, let me know if you have any futher issues!

[native cloak]

I'm very good at breaking things so if I'm unable to break it then it's good lol

[tight idol]

huh guys, might ask a stupid question. where can i config everything ?

the mod is not appearing in thunderstore "edit config" and either the LC menu

[fast gull]

inside the game, right after clicking "host" you will see a button at the top left corner of the screen

is an in-game config menu rather than a bepinex config

[tight idol]

huuuhhhhhh

[fast gull]

if you have a lot of custom moons it might need a bit to load

how many do you happen to have?

[tight idol]

around 6 differents packs of moons ? xD

i might have 30 moons approx

[fast gull]

thats not very much but neither to few

you should be able to check in the console how is the loading progress (amount of configs yet to load)

[tight idol]

i have to wait everytime to get everything working ?

[fast gull]

Just if you want to modify something

if you just want to play and dont modify anything, you can hit play and ignore the load

[tight idol]

ho ok

[fast gull]

modifications are saved

you just have to modify anything once (each save file has its individual configuration)

losing the game or deleting the file does not remove the configurations

[tight idol]

there is something im afraid, is that my crew will complain that the menu will lag a bit , but all i will say is to just quickly click or just join me , because iam always the host xD

also what happened to HD lethal ? did he removed the mod ?

[fast gull]

I tried to make the menu less laggy, how much fps is it going (should be at least 60 for what I tested)

[fast gull]

though it was just deprecated but barely used it

[tight idol]

i have 20-30 fps average on menu

i just checked but yeah it got deprecated

that unfortunate ,this by far one of the most efficient way to gain some fps

[fast gull]

anyway Im working on something so you dont have to load everything, just the settings you want to modify

[fast gull]

never knew HD lethal company increased fps

there are some performance mods but I would not recommend anything that unlimits the fps

that will just break your GPU

[tight idol]

it didnt increased that much but it made some of my crew Poopi specs to gain some fluidity

i have around 200 mods in my modpack and we all have 50 fps at best xD

and some of us have some tank of a pc builds

[fast gull]

hmm, maybe @native cloak can help you with that, I investigated a bit for performance

but I think is mostly a problem with the game, is not very optimized, at least memory wise

may I ask what are your pc specs?

[tight idol]

welp if he have time i would like if he can show me what is wrong in the modpack just in case

do i give link ?

hold on

[fast gull]

start a game and when you see your fps go down check how is the CPU, GPU and RAM

that can give you a hint on the problem

[tight idol]

welp the menu is still loading

[fast gull]

a picture of the specs should work

[tight idol]

it takes a while xD

[fast gull]

what does the console say lol

[tight idol]

ho wait

console closed

LMAO

[fast gull]

wait, the game is running and the console is closed? 🤔

[tight idol]

i gotta hurry i gotta go sleep very early xD

yeah it seems

i will relaunch

[fast gull]

dont worry, you can just come back when you can

[fast gull]

the console should say the time it needs to loads config and the amount of them

it starts go be slow after 20k configurations

[tight idol]

console closed

again

im posting the link of the "test" version of my modpack if buddy need to check something ^^
0192cfb4-cca0-b6e7-0561-9c1e43818f77

[fast gull]

can you check the logs?

seems very weird that is jsut closing the game

[tight idol]

i relaunched again the console didnt show up

[fast gull]

wait

do you have your console disabled in the configuration?

from thunderstore (BepInEx.cfg)

[tight idol]

i think not, everything related to console is never touched by default

[fast gull]

mind checking in?

its the only think I know that could affect

if its on and the console is closing... Im blind

[tight idol]

huhhh

how tf did it disabled everything ?????????

i swear i never touched this

also for the spec =

Graphic card is a 4060

welp im in the menu and the console is just...empty

[fast gull]

you might need to see % per core rather than the whole processor

[fast gull]

nothing about loading or from Configurable Company?

[tight idol]

no

just this

im not letting here for too long btw just in case XD

well i can no longer stay, goodnight for those who will sleep too x)

[fast gull]

no worries! we can resume solving the issue next day

[native cloak]

Oh ya

I'm currently not home but you got my modpack I'm pretty sure

Everything should be the same so you can see all the performance mods in it

@tight idol here is my profile code I use for 10x spawns so it has a ton of performance mods you can look into 01921144-99db-b82d-be23-655556ed54f9

Idk if the code still works or not, I can't really check rn

[granite urchin]

@fast gull I'm currently trying to modify the sell value of a couple of scrap items that do not appear on the list. I attempted to add them myself into the config, but it flat-out ignored them. Any reason why the mod would do this, and any way to get the mod to recognize these entries?

(For reference, the items are Ganimedite and Pure Ganimedite from the moon 2 Ganimedes. I think they do not show up because they are not supposed to appear naturally, rather they appear from another scrap, Ganimedite Ore.)

[granite urchin]

I'm also running a much older version of the mod (2.4.1) since running any newer version in my 200+ modpack would cause hangups when it attempts to generate the config (gets stuck at like 17% for some reason), and on v64 of the game still.

[native cloak]

Ya, it's most likely not getting picked up by LCV because of how the mod is implementing the scrap.

[native cloak]

That is weird, can you send console log when you try this?

[granite urchin]

Yeah, sorry for the delayed response, I'll do so now

@fast gull This is what it's at when I press "Host" and the game is slowly populating menu and updating configs. I also wanted to add that this process in 2.4.1 is rather slow, but it does eventually get done if I wait long enough (if I need to edit the variables for any reason, I can just go in without waiting for it if I don't need to change anything), but in the versions after, the process is much slower and eventually doesn't seem to progress any further after a certain point. Either that, or I'm not that patient to let it sit and figure it out for that long of a time.

As of sending this, I've been in-game for about 10 mins and it's now finally hit 20%, which I don't think I've seen it reach before.

UPDATE: Over 25 mins later, it's now only at 33%. This will very likely take over an hour to accomplish. The console has not updated either, it's stayed the same, so what's below is still accurate after this update.

[native cloak]

How many moons do you got?

[fast gull]

Maybe the developer for that mod did not add them as scrap or created them in a non-standard way, if so, LCV might not be able to recogenize them, make sure the mod is functional with the game update just to be sure

[fast gull]

Im working on a fix for that, the loading does not like to load more than 15000 configs... I need to rework the system so it can take a while

[granite urchin]

Several. All of Wes' and Rosie's moons + interiors, plus Ganimedes, Kast, Egypt, and Ooblterra. Kast and Egypt don't add their own scrap, with the exception of Egypt's Tomb interior adding its own Apparatus, but that's like one or two things.

[fast gull]

This is due to the large amount of custom moons in the modpack, LCV has a lot of configurations per moon so the more moons, items and enemies, the more configs it generates, slowing down the load, this is why I need to implement that rework

[granite urchin]

Makes perfect sense to me. Obviously, I made my modpack too fat and it's finally catching up to me.

[fast gull]

Can you open an issue in github? just to have the information so I can test after the implementation if the load is instant again

[granite urchin]

Just open an issue regarding slow config load times with larger modpacks?

[fast gull]

in both of ours defense, LC nor unity are known for being efficient lol

[fast gull]

yea, the important thing is that I need to have your pack code and info about the mod, so I can test the update with your modpack to make sure it works fine

[granite urchin]

Which one of your repos is LCV? I see a number of them, including ConfigurableCompany, but I do not see LCV in there.

[fast gull]

this is an issue with configurable company, report it there

also LCV has no public repo, instead report issues in the configurable company repo

you can get a link to the repo in game by clicking the issue button

[native cloak]

lol

[granite urchin]

Okay, new issue added.

Now I need to sleep

[fast gull]

no worries, thanks for the report!

[native cloak]

wait, there was another update?

v66?

[fast gull]

maybe is to rollback special things from the aniversary

[native cloak]

v67 now?

[safe tundra]

Halloween update

[fast gull]

for the source seems like its a bit to late

checks for 31/10, but is already 2 november lol

[lethal needle]

Is it possible to disable/hide/remove store items and prevent the spawn of specific scrap with this mod?

[native cloak]

You can prevent certain scrap from spawning. I have no idea about disabling store items though, I don't really mess around with store item settings.

If you can't, you can however make the shop items you don't want to be sold very expensive

[ruby quail]

I hope this hasn't been asked already, but I have a ton of moons and thus have a very long load time every time I go to the main menu.

If I don't need to make any changes to variables, do I have to wait for it to finish loading before loading any saves? Or will it just use the last used variables?

[native cloak]

If you aren't changing anything, you don't have to wait

You can just load up a save

[ruby quail]

Thank you. That saves a ton of time

[native cloak]

It will use the last used variables set on that save though

[ruby quail]

Right

[native cloak]

floating vents still exist btw

They make 0 sense

[fast gull]

men there are so many weird and heavy errors that I have 0 time to fix all lol

still havent really understood why the floating vents

[native cloak]

No one has lol

[native cloak]

@fast gull

[fast gull]

wish I had time to look at it

I estimate to be completly busy at least until monday/tuesday

[native cloak]

I'm about to add a ton of suggestions to the github so sorry about that

[turbid knoll]

whenever i try and change the moon prices to 0 and go to route to one it still says that its worth the amount of money it was before

i get this message in the logs

[Warning:Configurable Company Variables] Route confirm node (levelID: 9) does not match current hash. Current one will be used

[native cloak]

Did you check the box too?

[turbid knoll]

the box?

[native cloak]

Ya, when you set a value for the moon route, you also have to check the box

[turbid knoll]

ooooh, yeah i did

[native cloak]

Oh, then in that case, it's probably another mod that's messing with it

[turbid knoll]

thats what i figure is probably the case but im mostly sure that i have no mods that would affect it (probably)

[native cloak]

What I would try is disabling half of your mods and try narrowing it down to one mod

Because it works for me

[turbid knoll]

thats actually a good idea, i do a similar thing when i make minecraft modpacks lol

[native cloak]

Ya lol

And you have the latest version of LCV right?

Because there was a bug with it that has been fixed

[turbid knoll]

ill make sure

yup i do

[native cloak]

So ya, it's most likely another mod messing with something

[turbid knoll]

yeah

[turbid knoll]

it was moonswept

[native cloak]

so you got it working now?

[turbid knoll]

yup

[native cloak]

nice

[native cloak]

Ya, sorry in advanced but I may or may not have made like 8 more posts for new features. Some of them are stuff you were already planning on adding and some aren't. I just decided to add them all in one place to hopefully help.

[fast gull]

Glad to hear that everything works fine, make sure to open a github issue for compatibility and inform about the issue with the mod developer

I see @native cloak is very good at bugtracking lol

[fast gull]

perfect, hopefully I can work at everything at once, currently im busy with something, later I will be updating Configurable Company to make sure there are no more lags when loading the game, then I will resume work on LCV

man, I need a team or something xD

[native cloak]

lol, if only I was smart and new how to code

[fast gull]

omg xD

to be fair most of that was already "planned"

[native cloak]

I think I had more ideas too but I forgot them, I kind of had a brain wave

[fast gull]

you are very helpful just by helping others with issues with the mod

[fast gull]

yea no worries, suggest everything that you want and I will handle it dont worry

[native cloak]

I've learned a bit just from being here

[fast gull]

well, I thank you a lot for the help :)

[native cloak]

I mean, I'm basically awake whenever you are asleep so it works out lol

[fast gull]

thats also true lol

[zenith vigil]

Hey, how does global weather probability work when i can also change it on each planet? For example what happens if i put rainy weather in global to 40 but 80 on experimentation?

[fast gull]

the global setting is a weight multiplier, both values are used (unless disabled) and the final probability will be the result of multiplying them

[zenith vigil]

So by default global settings sets the weathers weight to 50% and if i set rainy at 100 in global that means rainy weather is 2 times more likely to occur on every planet?

[fast gull]

yea, kinda

although weights are not directly percentages

consider them as the relative proability from which the total is the sum of all the weights

not sure if that makes sense 😅

[native cloak]

ya, it's a bit strange to explain but I get it

[native cloak]

I found out that increasing stamina on 10x spawns is just more fun

[fast gull]

does it not break with x10?

[native cloak]

Nope

Well, I only increase stamina to 5x

So it still recharges, just slowly

[granite urchin]

Yeah, because it only increases the capacity, not the regeneration rate, that stays static.

[native cloak]

ya ik

[hazy crest]

It would be nice to have the option to set up enemy's hp and whether or not to kill enemy

at least this kind of mod that exists has a lot of issues

such as not working at all, having unnecessary features that can't disable even if they work or don't work sometimes for no reason

[fast gull]

yea, changing regeneration rate was kinda tricky

yet if you want it added, open an issue suggestion, just so I dont forget xD

[fast gull]

open a suggestion in github to track it, it has been planned for a long time but didnt have time to implement it

[fast gull]

I mean... LCV has a lot of features to be fair

[granite urchin]

Not me, I got LGU to upgrade that, and it feels like I earn it that way.

[fast gull]

thats a good synergy

altrough I meant as a feature of LCV

[native cloak]

I think I already did but I can't remember

[native cloak]

@fast gull do you think it's possible to add support for modded traps to LCV?

Or do custom traps act weird?

[fast gull]

hmmmmmmmm

modification is posibble, im not sure about the detection

[native cloak]

That's what I was thinking

I can send you a few mods that have custom traps if you wanna look into them?

[fast gull]

wish I had time

due to personal stuff I have 0 time to work on the mod right now

[native cloak]

I see

[native cloak]

I'm looking for mods that add custom traps and turns out CodeRebirth does but it requires WeatherRegistry which just desyncs weather and for whatever reason CodeRebirth just can not function without it. I wish I knew how to code so I could just make my own traps.

[lethal needle]

That's weird

WeatherRegistry works fine for me

[native cloak]

It doesn't play nice with LCV weather settings

[fast gull]

try disabling LCVs weather customization

or changing its mode maybe

[fast gull]

also is never late to learn, I would help you if you need too

[native cloak]

That probably would fix it but I can't customize chances on WeatherRegistry

[native cloak]

There would be a ton of dumb questions

and probably the same question like 14 times

[fast gull]

raise a compatibility issue, but seems more of a problem with that mod, what does it do exactly

[fast gull]

everyone has to start at some point, not a big deal

[native cloak]

I think it's used for custom weather or something. I don't really know the purpose of it.

[native cloak]

I mean I have a few ideas but I just have no idea how to start.

[fast gull]

hm, might need to look at it

[fast gull]

start by hello world lol

[native cloak]

I was kind of thinking of a type of teleporter item that you could pick up but also drop anywhere. So kind of like a teleporter pad. You step on one, and it teleports you to another one

So when you land on a moon, you could carry one over to the facility entrance and basically have fast travel from place to place.

And it would be considered a shop item/equipment so you would lose it if you left it.

[fast gull]

so a scrap item that you lose on exit and lets you teleport and carry items?

[native cloak]

Kind of

You wouldn't lose it on exit if you carry it back to the ship

Obviously there would be a few problems with this the biggest one being balancing.

For balancing I was thinking I could make each telepad weigh like 50 pounds or something

And for the cost it would be like 200 each (400 for both)

Idk what should happen if there are 3 telepads though

Like I guess it would just teleport you to a random one or something?

[fast gull]

that would make them useless lol

[fast gull]

random or one after the other

[native cloak]

It would save you trips back and forwards

[fast gull]

yea but carrying it back would just not be worth

[native cloak]

Nvm, someone picked up the project for me and it's actually looking really good

[fast gull]

you mean like somone was doing it already or is a commision

[native cloak]

I made a post to see if anyone wanted to pick it up and it got picked up very quickly

[fast gull]

oh, thats cool then

[atomic quail]

Question, we started using this mod again since it allows you to customize the experience which me and my group love, but theres a issue where it just sits on the menu updating configs in the top left and it goes quite slow, now we do have a large 150 mod pack and what not so i expect some issues, but this was never this slow on the older versions we used several versions back.

[fast gull]

thats because the new version has a lot of configurations, like for each moon you have there are around 100 or more settings for enemies, items and stuff

so if you have a large modpack with a lot of custom moons, it can take a while to load

even so, you dont need to wait for it to load if you dont need to modify anything

[native cloak]

oh, I didn't know you were still awake, I was about to jump in lol

[fast gull]

dont worry, today most probably I wont be able to sleep

today is coping day lol

[native cloak]

lol

[atomic quail]

Good to know, though untils its done i cant setup the custom settings like we had before lol, kinda wish we had a simple version like the old one for just changing Scrap spawns, quota and the days to pay back.

[fast gull]

Im working on a fix for all the performance, you can still modify that stuff, modifications will remain even if the configs do not finish loading

so you just need to wait for it to load if you need to change anything, otherwise if you already made your modifications, you dont need to wait

[native cloak]

welp, about to run some modded 10x spawns with a few other people to test out the early release of the Telepads

[atomic quail]

Ya we dont have any of those lol, no button in the top left at all currently while its loading.

[native cloak]

If you wanna join

[fast gull]

hope it goes everything okay!

[fast gull]

I meant, wait for it to load, make your changes and start the game, next time you want to host a game you dont need to wait and the modifications will be applied regardless

[fast gull]

I really cant

I still have a lot of stuff to take care of

[atomic quail]

Gotcha, thx for the help.

[fast gull]

hope it helps, let me know for any other issues or questions

[native cloak]

Wait, anyone know how StarlancerAIFix works?

[fast gull]

also you can always modify the value manually from file if you dont feel like waiting lol

[fast gull]

the developer perhaps lol

[native cloak]

fair

I want it for the telepads but I don't want enemies just using the doors to leave

[fast gull]

not sure if you can change it in the config

[native cloak]

ya, there wasn't a config for it

[fast gull]

though if you already have a telepad mod, you dont really need other mods that add a bunch of random stuff

well, gtg, I still need to learn like 3 years of electronics in a month

[native cloak]

lol, good luck with that

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/j9oAh4ldHWgyTflt8?invite=cr-MSxMYTMsMjI5OTY0ODMzLA

[atomic quail]

So we have our config but we want to change some stuff with it, is there any way to change it without reloading the config info again?

[fast gull]

not sure I understood you

[native cloak]

No

You gotta wait for it to finish loading before you can edit any configs

[atomic quail]

It was after we had made the configs and wanted a slight change without the wait, i did find where the info was saved but it seems editing it there does not fix it as it must load it either way lol. Will just wait for that performance update you mentioned before.

[fast gull]

the loading is for the menu, you dont need to wait if you made configurations, they are applied the same moment you enter the game from the file

[granite urchin]

Speaking of, how's optimizing that loading process going? I'm still needing to wait like a half an hour to wait for my entire config list to load in order to change one minor thing. (But at least it actually loads!)

[fast gull]

I have to refactor the whole mod to change how it works, I have already designed the new system but I dont have much time rn to work on the implementation and testing

[fast gull]

I have so many questions I dont even know if I want answers

[ruby flicker]

shadow realm...

[native cloak]

Lol, the Telepads had collision when the first beta dropped so they acted very weird and you could clip through walls basically anywhere and enemies would get stuck on them. So putting a telepad in a storage container (like a shopping cart) acted very weird.

[vestal hazel]

Greetings. I have a question about the mod.
Do I really need to wait until the config is updated in the main menu or will it use the non-updated one? Because having to wait 5 mins for it to generate stuff is... unsatisfactory.
1a) Is there a way to limit what it tries to update?
1b) Is the default config the one that is used until the config is generated?
Because I mostly need only the spawn n enemies inside/outside, everything else is nice, but secondary.
I haven't actually found any other mod that would spawn enemies at the start without issues, and normal lethal's difficulty has become too boring
Thank you.

[native cloak]

If you aren't changing anything then you do not have to wait but if you are planning on editing the starting spawns, you do have to wait for it to load at least once.

[vestal hazel]

oh okay thanks

[native cloak]

Lowering the amount of moons in your modpack should reduce the time though

[fast gull]

as Cooljs said, loading is only for the interface, if you have setup your configd and settings you cn just hit play and it will use the previously saved configs

[vapid flower]

https://tenor.com/view/pushing-cart-on-my-way-shopping-cart-im-off-to-school-school-supplies-gif-14894978

[fast gull]

If you are experiencing high loading times, mind sharing your profile code? Need to test for the optimization update

[native cloak]

Mine takes longer than normal but I don't have custom moons so it doesn't take that long if you want mine

[fast gull]

i need a modpack that has at least 20000 configs

[native cloak]

oh

[peak briar]

Hey, this mod works slick, nice work. Using it to create a pseudo-campaign config for me an my friends.

Is there a way to change the cost of things like the teleporter/suit colors/furniture? I may be blind.

[daring rock]

they should be under store items

[peak briar]

Hmmmm, don't see them. Only see items you can hold in your hands (flashlights, jetpacks, etc)

[fast gull]

placeables dont have a setting yet, I missed it

open a github issue with that suggestion so I can add it and not lose track

[fast gull]

to everyone using the mod, have you ever found in the need to translate stuff?

[daring rock]

you already require some sort of english capacity to even find about this mod so not really

and at most there will be one non-english group which will have an in-house translator/configuration maker

nothing wrong with adding translation though

[fast gull]

I mean, a translation is a lot of work currently, so maybe just lowe priority

other than that, as I had the need to fully rework the interface, do you guys want any style in particular?

Ive tried to keep the vanilla style but maybe I should stride away

[native cloak]

up to you but I'm sure whatever style you go for, it will look great

[daring rock]

I got no preference

[fast gull]

I mean, a lot of people said that the current style was ugly lol

so better no one complains after I change it lol

[native cloak]

I see, I got used to it

[fast gull]

Which one do you prefeer?

[daring rock]

this is tough

[fast gull]

this might be a bit biased but regardless of the style, I will most likely add animations too

And just to clarify, this has to be done as a rework of the whole mod to make optimizations to the whole process as a lot of people are complaining about performance

[daring rock]

hover animations seems a bit flat but otherwise looks slick

[fast gull]

I mean, is just a hint that you are hovering the item by increasing its size, nothing special

[daring rock]

true

[fast gull]

I dont think the "open menu" is relevant enough to have colors or complex animations lol

[ruby flicker]

i thought the server name said TulipSeek for a second 😭

[fast gull]

how lol

[ruby flicker]

idk..

[fast gull]

it was a message for everyone, to see how you prefeer the look and feel of the new (still in development) menu

[balmy hedge]

ah this is soo pretty

[pliant lintel]

ong fluent design referenc

[fast gull]

Need opinion, I dont really like the colors, yet I cant seem to find a palette that highlights enough the pages and keeps the LC style

[daring rock]

looks fine

maybe up the contrast in the colors

[lethal needle]

Hmmm....

Made a simple edit of the screenshot

The lighter one with black text is the "selected" section

The same, but without the yellowish borders

[fast gull]

Love the mix of colors, I might incorporate something similar but less border (for the style)

[native cloak]

I like it too

[ebon badger]

i tried to paste from clipboard and all it did was change the status of if these boxes were ticked or not.

i spent like 2 hours editing only to have it not work

[fast gull]

im sorry to hear that, however if those checks were marked that should mean it worked, unless you saw any errors in the console

if so pleasle let me know to fix the issue

also, if you want to save your stuff you should use presets, as they are saved with your profile

[ebon badger]

can we vc

[fast gull]

vc?

also, for everyone that likes the mod, due to the required redo of the mod it is time for in depth suggestions, for example redesign the UI, as this new release will improve performance on the menu, loading, unloading and a lot of optimizations saving and synchronizing values

[daring rock]

seems fine

i got no ideas though

[native cloak]

Idk, maybe subcategories so it's easier on the eyes? For example, instead of drop downs you could make it take you to another page.

[fast gull]

I was about to implement something similar

instead of navigating up or down, you navigate in and out if parts, you can enter a category or go back to the list of categories, you can too enter and exit sections, then there you will see the different configurations

[lethal needle]

Maybe you could add "global" spawn rates for objects/enemies to the config

Dunno if that's possible tho

Or allowing to globally disable store items/scrap (at the user's risk of course) by changing their price to -1 or something similar

This is the closest mod to AC's preset configs, and I would really like to see those being implemented. There's literally no mod for doing that stuff (in a user-friendly way)

[fast gull]

there should be something like that already

maybe not, there are a lot of things and I didnt keep up with everything I implemented lol

[fast gull]

I like to hear that, however must say (I kinda didnt like that mod) that this mod provides a lot of things AC was unable to allow due to how it was implemented

[fast gull]

you should be able to dissallow stuff with the checkbox but will add that too

[lethal needle]

Afaik, the checkmark currently enables/disables the price change of items and scrap, not their availability

[lethal needle]

Yep, your mod actually has way more configs than AC ever had in that regard, like the battery duration of any rechargeable item for example

I know that comparing both mods may not be exactly comfortable for you as a developer, sorry about that

As an user, it's kinda hard not to do so, especially when there are little to no alternatives for quite specific functions :c

[fast gull]

oh, then I might need to add that feature, sorry

[fast gull]

I mean, those ones are easy to add, but things such as moon configurations, and things from inside moon & interiors is something that required a lot of work due to how the game loads them

[fast gull]

Its okay, AC is a special case bc he was throwing my work to the ground

[fast gull]

its okay, if you want any feature let me know I will add it happily (when I have time lol)

[ebon badger]

also as in voice call

[fast gull]

it was a bit late here due to timezones, but sure next time, glas to help

[sinful bane]

good afternoon. I ran into a problem, some of modded monsters don't show up in the spawn list. For example, Locker from zealsprince's mod. What do I need to do to make it appear? Sorry for my English

[fast gull]

sadly the locker is a special case as it seems to be created weirdly so LCV does not find it as an enemy, you might need to talk to the developer of the locker about it

[native cloak]

There are a few monsters that are implemented differently

So some of them don't show up

[fast gull]

in most cases it becase the developer did something weird, for example I think the locker is considered a map trap

[fast gull]

do you know of any othe case?

[sinful bane]

thank you very much, guys. I will look for a solution

[native cloak]

Ya, my modpack has a few but I don't remember which ones

[native cloak]

Oh, I don't think CodeRebirth monsters work either

I don't have that added though