Lethal company variables [Configure everything to your liking]. (formally LethalCompanyVariables )

[fast gull]

to be honest cooljs contributed with a lot of ideas and great additions to the mod

[noble jetty]

just, leave some flavour to each moon, let's not normalize coilhead hordes pls 😂

[fast gull]

it could be funny to play with cooljs's settings

and see who's the last man standing

probably him as the veteran on the field but who knows

[native cloak]

I just came along with the idea of 5x spawns since no one else on YouTube have done that yet. Everyone is doing there Ironman challenges or single moon runs or whatever but why stop there

Then I upped it to 10x since it was still kind of easy

[noble jetty]

haha, from what I hear, surely some crazy stuff is going to be fun 😄

[fast gull]

I saw to people do the ironman challenge and didn't seem very hard

it's what we usually do but with more moons in between

[native cloak]

I'd be down when you wake up in a few hours. Sounds like fun

[fast gull]

sadly tomorrow morning im working

[native cloak]

Oof

[noble jetty]

yet, I'm somehow more grounded as I don't stream.

Like, I play with friends who get literally scared at coilheads or scream. That's a different way to play 😄

[fast gull]

and I know from my coworkers that is going to be a bussy day

[fast gull]

I love screaming in the game

even if im not scared

its funny

more when you know your friends can listen to it and adds to the environment

[native cloak]

I ghost record just incase anything funny happens that I can post

[fast gull]

same here

[noble jetty]

haha - no, they REALLY get scared. Like, need to recover even. It adds so much to the experience and I manage to forget how things are coded - which is good 😛

[fast gull]

got 1Tb of video that I wont ever edit or publish

[fast gull]

wow that's a pretty enjoyable experience

wait

I have a clip from the fist time I played the game right when I didn't know anything

[native cloak]

I have to empty mine out often, I only have like 500GB or open space

[fast gull]

https:////www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKDITnnAftQ

[noble jetty]

for me, it is. I lured all friends who HATE playing horror games. And they got charmed by the thrill, somehow. 😂

[fast gull]

the game is addictive

Its also funny wich makes the horror even more inmerse

but yea, dragging your friends into the game is pretty funny

[native cloak]

First time I played, I walked into the fire exit alone, heard the ambiance game sounds and noped out of there. I then waited for my friends to catch up

[warm pine]

oh the test enemy obunga is the red pill! (need a mod to help it spawn, but thats still cool to note)

[fast gull]

wait

really?

[warm pine]

yes.

[fast gull]

the kind of 3d png that follows you arround?

[warm pine]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/nothingbutfemboys/RedPillEnemySpawn/

yes

[noble jetty]

Same as me, the lethalResonance audio mod is really effective, especially in solo

[native cloak]

Oh ya, I watched this a few weeks ago. The panic in your voice at the end

[native cloak]

What does it do?

[native cloak]

Wait what? How does the AI work?

[fast gull]

lmao the probability is the same as the bracken for the obunga

[warm pine]

it jut kinda follows you... it scared me to death though so i got the frick out

[fast gull]

never tried that mod, is it that good for the ambience?

[warm pine]

dont know if it damages

[fast gull]

do you know those garrys mod videos where a PNG just follows you?

[noble jetty]

clever sound design. If you love atmospheric horror, it just sets the right...tone.
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LethalResonance/LETHALRESONANCE/

[fast gull]

I think kinda the same

[native cloak]

Ya

Is that exactly how the AI works?

It just tracks the player?

[fast gull]

yep

seems like it won't stop following you

makes sense that this was added as a joke to follow the trend of pngs attacking you and was just left in the game

[native cloak]

I'll check it out, I will probably not really notice it much since I'll be focusing on other stuff like the 8 crawlers that are charging at me but I'll give it a try

[noble jetty]

lol, you're literally playing LC as it was Quake 3 arena or Serious sam 😄
But hey, that's the beauty of modding and the community 😄

[fast gull]

average 45 day difficulty

[native cloak]

It's funny because I'll be looking for scrap then I hear Thomas the train music intensify

[fast gull]

lol LC with quake 3 movement

[fast gull]

damn that ,I remember when I was revewing a issue with your mod pack, that scared the sh*t out of me

[noble jetty]

I'm going to sneak it in and say nothing to other players.😌

[native cloak]

It is terrifying

W mod honestly

[fast gull]

thats an insane idea

[fast gull]

I even though of throwing it in my custom sounds mod to have more dumper variety

[noble jetty]

is it? Thought it was the rule 😛

[fast gull]

funny as heck

[fast gull]

I might even do the same lol

[native cloak]

I mean that's basically what I do. They are always like "WHY IS THERE 20 SPIDERS CHASING ME!"

[fast gull]

speking of spiders

[noble jetty]

So, you need options and tweaks, uh?
Have a roguelike mode - ALL THINGS RANDOM

[fast gull]

have you seen the arachnophobia mode?

[fast gull]

Isn't the game kinda of a roguelike already? lol

[native cloak]

Like his custom challenge moon idea?

[noble jetty]

Do we already have a randomizer mod?

[fast gull]

I don't really get the idea of what you mean tbh

[native cloak]

A randomize button sounds fun

[native cloak]

Isn't that only spiders or something?

[noble jetty]

yeah, but you know, more in the line of those full randomisers you see on youtube.

Maybe a tiny fast hoarder bug is just gonna be a coilhead with a model swap 😛

[fast gull]

sadily models and animations are tied to the IA

wich would make enemies behave like sticks

[native cloak]

But

[noble jetty]

I'm seeing beehives roll freely in Vow, physically based XD

[native cloak]

You can randomize enemy spawns

[fast gull]

well

gtg

tomorrow a slow and tedious day of work awaits me

[native cloak]

Ight Goodnight and Goodluck

[fast gull]

also with eager to finish configurable company rework

[noble jetty]

anything new got submitted for testing? 😛

[fast gull]

see ya

[fast gull]

wdym

[native cloak]

Assuming beta tests and stuff

[noble jetty]

haha, just wondering if you managed to cook some new version, that's all

[native cloak]

I think the newest one is enemy spawn settings

[fast gull]

right now Im reworking the whole Configurable company api (the mod in wich LCV depends) to add more features that will help development LCV

[fast gull]

yea, there is nothing published yet

the hardest stuff is to make the mod backwards compatible to not break anything for those 100k users that use Configurable company

[noble jetty]

I see. I'm victim of an energy drink, so I'm screwed to stay awake now. Good night and good luck for tomorrow ^^

[fast gull]

good night!

[native cloak]

I'm awake since it's only 4 PM for me

[noble jetty]

midnight here - just wondering, a bit OT, have you got any vids of you playing? I'm curious. Are you the dev of some mod I might be already using?

[native cloak]

I do have a few funny clips and I am not a dev, I don't know how to code on anything.

Hold up

https://youtu.be/BuqM9HWX0vw?si=2a3yoJmY2t-_FnF9 https://youtu.be/pA0y4WmhtCI?si=5Z1oujWi0Yz7i6w1 https://youtube.com/shorts/OP9VwUBb4lc?si=oPVE3Ah7v3DzOgM1

I have more funny ones that are not uploaded like this one

Idk why that one did not enbed correctly

Let me try again

[noble jetty]

Haha, it's ok, thanks for sharing, I'm gonna have a peek rn 😄

[noble jetty]

This could be of help 🙂
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Coomfy/CoomfyDungeon/source/

[fast gull]

scrap amount is easy

sames goes for dungeon size

as those two values are a variable in the code that I can just change whenever I want

But tht mod just had the right method so I can check all the possibilities

[native cloak]

I wonder if you could also add more loot room spawns

[odd dirge]

it has a tracking radius of 12 (idk exactly how far that is but its not very far) and~ without line of sight~ if you enter that zone it will not stop following you, at all.
it also instakills you if it catches up

[hard hawk]

Im having an issue where i cant see the full menu with each variable in my saves. Anyone know how to fix that?

[ruby flicker]

ummmm

[hard hawk]

sorry i figured out what was wrong ^^'

[ruby flicker]

the menu didn't even close this time

[fast gull]

how did you manage to enable the menu for challenge moons 0.o

[ruby flicker]

i think a bug happened at first launch

[fast gull]

weird

do you have any mods that affect the interface?

[ruby flicker]

no

[fast gull]

alright

if you find again the issue I would appreciate the logs

[ruby flicker]

ok

[native cloak]

Oh

What is Advanced Company and why is everyone talking about it?

[fast gull]

It's a mod that adds configurations

that blew up more than LCV because Im shit at marketing lol

[native cloak]

Same here lol

[fast gull]

I kinda like the items it adds but the options it provides exist for a long time

My biased opinion is, I dont like a mod that explicitly said that want to replace my mod without having the same features

[native cloak]

Seems legit but don't think it would fit my modpack anyways

[fast gull]

yea its a nice mod with a nice interface

however I wont let it have more options that LCV nor have better features than Configurable company

Im not going the easy way lol

[native cloak]

Lol

[fast gull]

jookes aside for me is an inspiration to aim to upgrade my mod

and not leting other mod replace it

[native cloak]

You'll always be 1 step ahead

[fast gull]

I don't know, I think that mod has a whole team under it

If is not the case, I will still be kinda slow to have the best quality possible

[native cloak]

I just looked into it and is this thing just a mod that's basically just a modpack

I could be wrong but aren't all of these just other mods copied into it?

[fast gull]

yea, the whole idea of the mod is to replace smaller mods that do similar things

[fast gull]

I don't really know, I only knew they aimed to replace LCV but does not have all the things LCV offers and I hate that

but for the other mods, I think they just got the idea of what people want and created a mod that includes it

but taking into consideration for example more company, trying to replace a mod that is like top 1 used without adding nothing to that but extra features somple people might not want... is not a good idea

[native cloak]

Mh weird

I feel like having the mods separated would be better but hey what do I know

Just means you're about to make LCV even cooler

[fast gull]

same though here, having one developer trying to add everything is just not worth and does not let you change a mod for one that might work better or something, it ties you to use that one that mod and you depend on it wich is not that good

[fast gull]

Yea, now I have to compete lol

[native cloak]

Ya

[native cloak]

Lol

I'll keep supplying ideas as I come up with any

[fast gull]

I really appreciate that

[native cloak]

This mod is 1 of a kind and can't be replaced

[fast gull]

Love to see you like it

What do you think makes the mod unique, I might be able to focus more on that and make it even better

[native cloak]

I mean obviously, it's the only mod that let's you customize enemy spawns fully

[native cloak]

Uuuuuh

I would say Everything actually. Ik there are a couple other mods that allow you to edit stuff like scrap, enemies, and weather but this one takes that to the next level

I mean you said your goal was to make everything customizable and you are on the right track with that

[fast gull]

Kinda funny how the best addition for you was the enemy spawning lol

[fast gull]

Thats perfect, I see making it even more customizable is what people might want

[native cloak]

There were actually 0 other mods that did this level of customization, I looked through all of them

[warped ledge]

I agree with this too, it's so great being able to set the max spawn and overall spawn rates of each individual enemy.

Though I wish you could take it a step further and allow for customization per moon map.

And I like that your mod allows for all this within an in-game interface, no need to fiddle with text files outside the game

[fast gull]

Luckly for you, spawn chances per moon is something being worked on

[warped ledge]

Awesome! Will it include modded moons as well?

[fast gull]

Yea, when I started in the game modding, I found it very hard for the users to have to change things outside the game so I decided to create this lol

[fast gull]

I havent tested it since now im focused on updating the interface, but I think it could include them too

[warped ledge]

Nice, gonna look forward to it then 👍

[native cloak]

I'm about to start running 25x enemy spawns now since 10x is easy now

[warped ledge]

Another feature I kinda wish could be implemented would be customizing the price value, rarity, and which moon(s) each scrap items spawn in (including modded scraps).

Cause I sometimes find scrap mods that are interesting in terms of looks, but is either waaay too commonly found or way too rarely found when I play them for my tastes.

Also, why chemical jug only in Vow?

[fast gull]

Hmm, so scrap value and rarity (setting it to 0 disables them) per planet is something I want to do

but might take some time for the same reason of adding custom moons

[warped ledge]

Yeah better to focus on the vanilla content first, just do it at your pace, I'd say your mod's already on the right track

[fast gull]

thanks buddy!

Imalso working on some behind the scenes API and stuff that will allow me to modify even more things

damn what was that syntax

[warm pine]

we love LCV 🗣️📢

[fast gull]

indeed

[fast gull]

never though I would see the name of my mod in a meme template lol

[ruby flicker]

i deleted my modpack and all backups

im refining it into a better one

[ruby flicker]

forum search is so broken

[native cloak]

I would suggest setting a goal for one so you don't go overboard and ask yourself if a mod would fit your modpack or not. That's what I did with my 10x spawns one

[manic cairn]

Really looking forward to the static spawn chance modifier! My friends and I have been playing nutcracker only by setting nutcracker spawn chance by 100000x and modifying the enemy cap, but can't go to vow because nutcracker has 0 chance to spawn there

[fast gull]

spawn chances per moon is a feature Im planning to add :)

[native cloak]

would be huge

[fast gull]

good news everyone, Configurable company is like 95% ready, today morning I finished the real time synchronization

[native cloak]

Can't wait to see this new menu ingame

[fast gull]

Im thinking about releasing a private beta as soon as its finished so people can tell me if there any compatibility issues

[grim lance]

Hi, the setting Max enemies for Bracken, Nutcracker, Baboon hawk are 0 by default, is this a bug? Does this prevent them from spawning?

[ruby flicker]

alr im making my modpack now!

[native cloak]

That would be perfect for @ruby flicker because of his modpack lol

[native cloak]

It shouldn't? I can check in a bit. I mean if it does, you could set them to the default values.

[ruby flicker]

i think i improved performance for my modpack

[fast gull]

Hello @grim lance , It should not be 0 unless another mod modified them, do you have any mod that changes enemy spawning?
As for if 0 prevents spawning, it does

[ruby flicker]

i added 160 mods back in the spam of a couple hours

i need to tone down modded moons they tank performance

[native cloak]

Ya, I don't really run modded moons but maybe having moons after Titan would be cool

image 10x spawns on like SSS moons

[fast gull]

Guys, I must inform you that with the Configurable Company Update, your configurations will be reset as the whole format for saving files changes.

I can make a tool to convert old configurations into new ones but Im not sure how worth is it

[grim lance]

I don't think so going by names and short descriptions, will check again in detail, can your new update help me find the root cause by any chance?

[fast gull]

Dont worry, there is no need to check them individually

Can you check real quick if you can change the settings manually to see if they work correctly after that?

As far as I understand the issue, the values were set to 0 by default for enemy caps, is that correct?

[grim lance]

Sure,
Manually as in the config, launch the game and see if it is saved?
Or in game restart and see if is saved?
Also yes that is correct

[fast gull]

Try to modify the values while in game, restart and check if they are saved correctly

To make sure they save, after changing the values start a game and quit

that will make them save 100%

[grim lance]

testing now

Version 1.9.0

1. Didn't find a config file - so none deleted
2. Deleted save
3. Changed setting of Max cap for bracken to 99
4. Created new save
5. exited and restarted
6. still found no config file - what is it called
7. Cap is still 99

[fast gull]

Configuration files are not located for bepinex

but within the game saves

(This allows configurations to be file-dependant so you can have your first save file with different settings that your second or third and so on)

[fast gull]

So that means is now working as intended (It might not shown the right value due to an error tho)

If you want to copy the settings to import in other profile you can use the button "Copy to clipboard"

[grim lance]

now testing the mod with only lcv (and dependencies enabled) to figure out why the default is 0, random question, I don't have a console anymore, how can I reenable it?

[fast gull]

Go to edit configs > bepInEx and under the section of "Logging.Console" there is an option to enable it

[fast gull]

Keep in mind that the configuration is now generated, you need to delete it and exit the game without saving a "default one"

[grim lance]

thank you, okay default is now 1 again, so it's a mod

[fast gull]

Compatibility issues my occur but dont worry about it too much unless the behavior in game does not match what you set in the config

[grim lance]

alright thank you, which is hard to test for sadly

[fast gull]

Yea... most of the time to develop is to make sure nothing breaks lol

anyhow If you dont mind sending the profile code to check what could be causing the issue

[grim lance]

sure gladly

dmed

[grim lance]

(for others wondering, the cause was a different mod overriding it, without it saying that it did)

[ruby flicker]

NO WAY THEY ADDED IT

RESERVED SLOTS WITH ADVANCED COMPANY!!!

[native cloak]

Not the end of the world, is the update out right now?

[ruby flicker]

but it removes the equipment slots 😭

[warm pine]

they only add about 4 seconds of load time each for me. so i have like 50

[ruby flicker]

guys i messed up badly

[fast gull]

thank god they understood some people may want to rely on other mods

[fast gull]

the beta is, wich I shared with some friends and test whenever anything breaks

[ruby flicker]

bracken send to to the bracken rooms

[native cloak]

Oh nice

I'm going to try 25x spawns tomorrow and see how that goes

Sounds like a great idea

[ruby flicker]

AC was just deperecated.

[fast gull]

sounds like a bad idea lol

[fast gull]

wait, I just saw that, why?

I know they added a watermark to the game recently but I dont know if thasts enough

[ruby flicker]

the changelog just says "remove my mod" thousands of times over

[fast gull]

seems like the watermark was the problem as the autho didnt like a mod to remove the watermark

[ruby flicker]

new version called 69.69.69 is out hes vandalised the entire page

[fast gull]

to be honest that's sad

[ruby flicker]

yeah

[native cloak]

Wait what happened?

[ruby flicker]

AC is gone now

[fast gull]

Seems like Advanced company pushed a release that added a watermark and some people didnt like it and released a mod to remove it. The author of AC didn't like people removing the watermark and people got mad

[ruby flicker]

someone made a mod to remove the watermark debate happened in the main thread couple like an hour later its gone

gone as in you can't get it from thunderstore now

[fast gull]

oh wow

Half hour ago I could access it though the thunderstore web, now the page does not even exists

[native cloak]

Why was the Watermark even added in the first place?

[ruby flicker]

the title screen watermark i think is what the watermark is

[fast gull]

I don't know, Im not a big fan of watermarks anyways

[remote marsh]

Yeah I'm scrambling to find something to adjust moons and stuff, one of my friends is gonna be super bummed about the equipment that AC offered being now gone

[fast gull]

Well, AC was the only compecente I know about with my mod...

[fast gull]

Im sure mods will come to replace everything AC offered within some time

[remote marsh]

Cause friend in the group that I frequented really liked stuff like the bulletproof vest lols

[ruby flicker]

id use damage scale to make it act like the vest but its permant

[remote marsh]

And yeah I imagine given some time, some of the stuff that was exclusively via AC will surface elsewhere

[ruby flicker]

you can tone down the damage you recive but you don't need an item it always there

[fast gull]

As for the configurations it offered, If you used any of them you can add it to the excel and I will add it to LCV as a replacement

[ruby flicker]

what happened

real shame tbh i liked the portable terminal and perks

[native cloak]

Most of the stuff in AC (from what I understand) were from other mods. I think the bullet proof vest was in Lategame or something (could be wrong but it's out there somewhere)

What were the main stuff AC had? I can go do some digging if you want

[ruby flicker]

perks missile launcher equipment slots portable terminal

i do still have it installed but i don't feel like launching my game again

[native cloak]

Found it

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/malco/Lategame_Upgrades/

[fast gull]

wait

does lategame upgrades have those items from AC?

[native cloak]

Yes

[ruby flicker]

wait since when

[fast gull]

Really?

I never noticed

[native cloak]

AC was just a mod that stole a ton of other stuff from other mods

[ruby flicker]

were the equipment slots one of them

[native cloak]

Yes

[fast gull]

Can relate lol

[ruby flicker]

wait lgu really added all that

[remote marsh]

Yeah admittedly AC did take a lot of stuff from just, other mods lmao

[fast gull]

I know it added things from more company and lethal company variables

[native cloak]

I remember using all of these stuff in my old modpack before AC even existed

[fast gull]

looool I never saw that, thats not even good, that just stealing isn it?

[remote marsh]

Only few stuff that I can recall that's like, maybe exclusively AC is the Rocket Boots (maybe) and the cursed scrap

[native cloak]

Ya, that's why I had a problem with it

[fast gull]

cursed scrap I remember seeing it elsewere playing with my friends

but I know for a fact AC cursed scrap didnt work correctly in multiplayer

[native cloak]

Not even rocket boots, that was from another mod

[fast gull]

I mean it was my competence with lcv but never saw it that way

[native cloak]

I forgot which one though

[ruby flicker]

what mod!!

[native cloak]

I'll look

[ruby flicker]

what about the tactical vest

[native cloak]

Yep

[ruby flicker]

and he didn't gvie credits at all...

[native cloak]

Nope

I wouldn't be surprised if he just stole the source code from other mods

[ruby flicker]

what about portable terminal

[native cloak]

That's from Lategame

Wait

Actually maybe

Don't quote me on that

[fast gull]

I cant seem to find nor the vest or portable terminal in Lategame

[ruby flicker]

i know LCremote terminal exists

[native cloak]

Vest is from a different mod

I'll have to boot up my old modpack

[remote marsh]

What's the Helmet from LGU? I can't seem to find any info about it on the mod page 🤔

[ruby flicker]

like what it does or?

[remote marsh]

Yeah

[ruby flicker]

its really op

[native cloak]

I could not tell you

I didn't use it

[ruby flicker]

it negates ALL damage for a configurable amout of hits

[remote marsh]

Oh sheesh lmao

[ruby flicker]

default is 2

[remote marsh]

So it won't last long against smth like a turret I imagine?

[ruby flicker]

ye unless you set it to a ridiulous number

[native cloak]

I'll just send my old modpack code so you guys can check out everything and find some replacements

[ruby flicker]

ok

[remote marsh]

AC's one at how it handled the Vest was pretty nice balance-wise since it only affected 2 things, it was niche but pretty good at what it does while it lasted

[ruby flicker]

i could show what it did

[remote marsh]

I'll have to play around with LGU and I'm hoping it's pretty configurable cause well, I went pretty thorough with my customization while AC was alive lmao

[ruby flicker]

you can config ANYTHING all the upgrades can be changed and stuff

[remote marsh]

Able to be disabled as well if I preferred?

[fast gull]

Don't want to self promote but you should check lethal company variables xD

[native cloak]

Were there skill points in AC?

[ruby flicker]

yup

[ruby flicker]

xp to buy perks but yeah

[remote marsh]

Coolios, and AC DID have some sort of EXP to for attribute enhancements dynamic yeah

[native cloak]

Oooooh, that's from another mod too

[ruby flicker]

lethal progression... correct?

[remote marsh]

Does Lethal Progression's one carry over to future saves as well?

[ruby flicker]

i have no idea tbh

[remote marsh]

Cause I recall some of AC's perks system does carry over to future saves if enabled

[native cloak]

Lethal Progression is skill points, the ship upgrades are something else I think

[native cloak]

Yes

They do

[ruby flicker]

ill be expecting reddit pages in the lethal company subreddit to be asking
"what happened to advanced company!"

[native cloak]

So was the code actually just copy and pasted into AC or something?

Because that's wild

[remote marsh]

No clue, AC was closed source iirc

[fast gull]

if you have the dll I can tellyou

However I dont really think so, I think the ideas were but the code wasnt

[ruby flicker]

AC's dll?

[native cloak]

@ruby flicker said he had an unupdated version

[fast gull]

yea

[fast gull]

but what happened to the latest release, did he remove the dll from the mod?

[ruby flicker]

he made LLL incompatiable

[native cloak]

I looked at some of the imagines of AC and they look identical to other mods

Like spot on

[fast gull]

can you provide me an example

just because I didnt use AC that much

I didnt like it tbh

[native cloak]

There was a Ship upgrades mod but I don't remember what it was called

Is there a way to check uninstalled mods in modpacks?

[ruby flicker]

also appareantly AC is still alive in well in there discord
assumily private

i looking at modding general and hes trying to do something with LLL and AC

right here its in modding general

#modding-general message
this is for the person who got the pic

[native cloak]

018de4c6-2cbb-b2f1-7c00-9621696ce726

[fast gull]

What was the problem between LLL and AC 🤔

[native cloak]

I don't think this one has ship upgrades but it should have other stuff like LCU

I did not update anything

[ruby flicker]

100% imported let me see now

[native cloak]

I will keep digging and see if I can find the mod that added the vest and other stuff

[ruby flicker]

its in DM's

[native cloak]

I do not have an old save of this modpack but I can try finding it because I'm pretty sure I exported it as a file

It has to be one of these

Bruh, this one had 163 mods

I used to be just like you @ruby flicker

[fast gull]

lol

[ruby flicker]

i did tone down my modpack a bit

its not almost 300 mods its 171 now

[native cloak]

Lol

I forgot how long this took to launch

Bummer, I can't seem to find it

I'll looks a bit more

[ruby flicker]

@fast gull hows the code looking

[native cloak]

I'm checking the last modpack I have saved

I think it was from a way later version but I might have to dig in DMs to find it

[ruby flicker]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169801857049309357/1211564795602411530/giphy.gif

[native cloak]

Is that the rocket launcher from AC or no?

[remote marsh]

LethalThings

[native cloak]

Ok good

Just making sure

[remote marsh]

Missile Launcher was from AC, which is just an equivalent of LethalThings's Flare Gun

[ruby flicker]

i do like how the gif cuts to black when the bracken got me

[native cloak]

Do you have a screenshot of the launcher?

[remote marsh]

Uh I should have a recording, sec

[ruby flicker]

heres a clip

its long i forgot to cut some parts

[remote marsh]

That's it yeah, sorry for tardiness on my end my video folder's a mess rn

[native cloak]

Ok, I haven't seen that one so I can not confirm or deny if it was from another mod

[ruby flicker]

tbh it should have been renamed "fire work launcher" cuz it aint shooting missiles

[native cloak]

Same here lol

[fast gull]

okay this is just weird

advanced company dll has more company dll integrated

why

[remote marsh]

I remember specifically saying in the old thread that it should be called smth like "Fireworks Launcher"

[native cloak]

So was that just taken?

[remote marsh]

I can confirm that there is a morecompany.dll just, in the same directory that the advancedcompany.dll is just at for some reason

[fast gull]

it has the dll, I assume at least that was just for compatibility but also thats a copy paste of the whole More company

[ruby flicker]

and here he is complaining about copy right...

[fast gull]

lmao

[remote marsh]

Based on the file size, I believe that morecompany.dll is the one that has the console say smth like this:

loading morecompany v100.0
I'm a morecompany replacement :)

[ruby flicker]

also did you know v50 was supposed to come out on feb 10th?

[fast gull]

do you have any mod that you suspect was just copy pasted over AC?

[fast gull]

really?

[ruby flicker]

ye but zeekerss got sick

[remote marsh]

The actual morecompany.dll seems to be around 10,000kb in filesize, while the morecompany.dll that's present in the AC directory is only 8kb

[ruby flicker]

so he might have removed some code

[fast gull]

it might be just to make sure more company does not load

[native cloak]

A few but I don't remember the names of them, I'm currently looking through DMs to find my old modpack

[fast gull]

the original at least

[remote marsh]

Yeah I believe the one that's in the AC directory is ensuring that if the actual morecompany.dll is detected, to disable it and print the specific thing I listed in here to the console: #1193627690960437369 message

[native cloak]

I would check for any similarities between LGU and AC. I do not think the whole thing is copy and pasted but I think some bits may be

[fast gull]

For the code I saw I didnt see anything copied

but It might be just some methods or functions

I dont know

[native cloak]

I may have just found it

Hold up

Let me check it real quick

[ruby flicker]

find anything?

[native cloak]

no

This is the message I found

But this modpack doesn't have anything

I'm checking 1 more

[ruby flicker]

alr

[old pasture]

i think its more like he has planning it for a while now but just released it in january which by that time mods that has its features already been made

[native cloak]

Ya, idk I can't find it

I know there were a few smaller modes that looked identical to the stuff in AC but I couldn't tell you the names. Only things I've seen were the red slots (For helmet, vest, and boots), Ship skill tree, and a few items. I'll see if I can find these tomorrow but I'm off to bed. Please let me know if you think you find these and I'll let you know if that's them or not.

[warm pine]

wait advanced company...

its

its gone?

:(

[ruby flicker]

yeah

[warm pine]

im in denial right now. uuh.... anyway. yes...no... nevermind

[fast gull]

@warm pineFor the discussion we had before, I think you can get the same features with other existing mods

[warm pine]

but what about the items? that was the thing for me

(and portable terminal)

[fast gull]

Not sure about portable terminal

but I heard lategame upgrades and letal quantities have those features

Still, im not sure I never used AC

[warm pine]

lethal quantities is like...modpack balancing i think (you might mean lethal things)

[fast gull]

uhh

yea, maybe xD

[ruby flicker]

the closest mod you can get to the portable terminal is LC remote terminal

[fast gull]

It is almost ready

[warm pine]

Woohoo!

[mental aspen]

this mod is similar advanced company?

[fast gull]

This mod adds configurations for the game, although not all of the configurations are the same

There are some configs that were not on AC and some that are not in LCV (for now)

[warm pine]

your probably going to needa reply to a bunch of messages like that in the next few days

so be prepared lol

[fast gull]

https://tenor.com/view/1000-quota-stare-lethal-company-1000-yard-stare-gif-8412969833343799422

[ruby flicker]

this is getting a bit out of hand

[warm pine]

wdym

[ruby flicker]

to much follows

[warm pine]

betterdiscord is fire. sadly i use the web only because im stupid like that

[potent smelt]

vencord

[fast gull]

@here I just finished porting LCV to the new (closed beta) of Configurable company. I still need to verify everything works correctly with networking and stuff but I might need people to test if everything works okay

[native cloak]

Time to solo run 25x spawns

[ruby flicker]

i need 1000x spawns

[pallid estuary]

@fast gull do you think this mod will affect load times much?

[fast gull]

LCV? Nope, I designed it to be as lightweight as possible

Maybe if you disk has a very slow speed it might take some time to load the "Host" game but once everything is loaded, you wont even notice it is there

[native cloak]

Your PC may explode

[ruby flicker]

the game would prob crash at the loading seed menu

[ruby flicker]

i ran 2 modded lethal company's together to test compatablity and it worked

[ruby flicker]

apperantly AC is back

[fast gull]

Im seeing the changelog and I dont like what is showing

[ruby flicker]

1.1.6 is what sticks out

[fast gull]

I dont know, the whole LLL seems kinda weird

[ruby flicker]

oh its gone again nvm

[fast gull]

I think it's not doing well with LLL

But it is in thunderstore

[warm pine]

im scared lol

i dont want to install it and mess up my whole modpack

[native cloak]

Lol

[remote marsh]

Similar sentiment after seeing the entire meltdown go off

[warm pine]

ive decided not to install it until im positive the creator is mentally stable again

[ruby flicker]

im not updating cuz i don't trust the latest versions

[ruby flicker]

this still works well with AC since it doesn't have some of the features this has such as weather chance control

[fast gull]

yea this mod is completly different from AC

Thats why I dont like it saying that it provides the same features as this one

[ruby flicker]

somehow earth got the dustclouds weather

[fast gull]

If you have the "allow every weather" then its possible

or if you just modify the weather chance of dustclouds

[native cloak]

best weather setting so far

[fast gull]

It even works in custom moons or the company lol

[native cloak]

Stormy Company building is hilarious

[fast gull]

I kinda prefer the flooding

[native cloak]

Flooded kind of easy but looks funny

[ruby flicker]

flooded is more of a pain since i have oopsallflooded mod

[warm pine]

@fast gull i think i found an incompatibility with https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Bobbie/WhimsicalWeather/, when using allow all weather, whimsical doesnt ever appear

[fast gull]

Does it appear on the list of weather probabilities?

[warm pine]

uuuuh....i didnt check, i can after school though. i found that issue like a week ago but forgot to report it

[warm pine]

no

[ruby flicker]

would it be possible for a starting weather picker and moon

[fast gull]

I will try to add compatibility but not sure how possible it is due to how it is implemented

[fast gull]

wdym

[ruby flicker]

experimentation always starts foggy for me an option to choose starting weather could fix it

[fast gull]

ohhh

it always starts foggy due to how the game works

as the first day the seed is always 0 I think

[ruby flicker]

it starts at none but i guess the game likes experiment to start as foggy
i hate foggy

[fast gull]

I think you can already change this with the weather options

[ruby flicker]

how?

[fast gull]

If you modify the chances, it will modify the starting weather

At least that was the result I got while testing

[native cloak]

ya

just change something by like 1% or something and it should change it

[ruby flicker]

bracken outside is creepy

i will try to change the weather by 1% i hope it changes to what i want

oo forgot about the big interior moniter

[fast gull]

I mean you can just disable foggy or lower it a lot

[native cloak]

You know what's more scary that 1 Braken outside? 12 Brakens outside

[ruby flicker]

somehow it became ecplised now

[native cloak]

Try lowering eclipsed by 1

[ruby flicker]

still ecplised ill turn it off completely

[native cloak]

try setting it to 1

[ruby flicker]

now its flooded

which i want

so weird why it does that

[native cloak]

These are what I have mine set to, They work pretty good

[ruby flicker]

wait base game aint 50%?

for other weathers

[fast gull]

its not a percent

its shown as a percent for better understanding

but in the game they are weighted values

(aka percents but instead of going from 0 to 100, they go from 0 to the sum of every number)

[ruby flicker]

oh ok

ill test it again

[ruby flicker]

so do config's overrite varaibles

[fast gull]

eh?

[ruby flicker]

like enemy spawn weight configs

[fast gull]

I mean, I didn't understand your question at all to be honest

[ruby flicker]

do config files for enemy spawns override LCV

[fast gull]

Which config files?

LCV should have priority over other configuration mods

[ruby flicker]

like the config files for certain enemy's like scoppobia config to change spawn chance

[fast gull]

Hmm, pretty sure LCV will override them yea

but to be honest it depends on how the mod implemented it

in your case, Im pretty sure LCV will get the value set by that mod and let you modify it afterwards, so setting it to default respects the values set by the original author

[ruby flicker]

ok

[native cloak]

Ya, I'm pretty sure LCV just multiplies whatever the number in the config is

[fast gull]

I subestimated the amount of time it would take me to update the whole ConfigurableCompany API wiki

[native cloak]

Lol

No rush

All that matters is it's good

[fast gull]

I've been fixing and writing for the past three days like crazy, I need to document a lot of things ;-;

[native cloak]

Sounds fun

[fast gull]

437 modifications (like 120 different files changed with more than 50 completly new) I need to document everything for like three different wikis xDDD

[native cloak]

Oh wow

[fast gull]

Now that I finished Configurable Company renovation, I will focus on adding the requested features for LCV

[last isle]

With the latest update of "ConfigurableCompany" the mod menu is taking the whole screen instead of the neat place it was taking prior to it:

[ruby flicker]

i like the new menu

[rose sable]

Yea its nice

[fast gull]

Yea, it is intentional as the new menu provides with more options than the old one

Don't you like it?

[fast gull]

THanks

I received a lot of critics about it xD

[native cloak]

I love it

[jaunty shard]

here's my profile code, I guess there's probably some mod that's conflicting? 018dfb7d-2f68-d012-2528-d8cb6677ebf2

[fast gull]

Ill check as soon as possible

[last isle]

I personally found it easier/more intuitive in the previous version 😅

[fast gull]

I understand your position, I sometimes though the same, however sadly I had to decide between simplicity or functionallity and I prefered to make it bigger and easier to see and also add new features

[last isle]

It's not just the change that's throwing me off, it's the fact that you need to select an existing save instead of being able to select the parameters and make a new save out of it like you used to, and being able to easily see which parameters were applied to which save on the side while selection each was very handy when I had a save setup for testing a certain mob spawn for example

Regardless of my current criticism I'm appreciative of your hard work obviously 🙏

[fast gull]

Now you can do almost the same but you need to close/open the menu but I understand what you mean and Im trying to figure out how could I allow to change the current file while in the menu

I appreciate the feedback tho

[last isle]

Yes I feel like it slows the flow down by having to open and close it when juggling with a lot of saves, I personally didn't have any issue with the old design so I hope my feedback isn't just "please go back I'm scared of change" 😅
I can try to test it further on my ultra wide in a bit to give you more actionable feedback through bullet points, screenshots/short video clips if you'd like 🙏

[fast gull]

Don't worry, I understand as the decision to change the menu was based on the idea of updating the mod to avoid obsolescence, I will still continue to improve the menu and the interface is subject to change at any point

But for example two changes I already think are important are to allow to change the currently selected save file easily and improve the visuals of the borders, the layout might change too but the features are likely to stay

If anyone does not like the new menu you can send your feedback or even a draw on what you would prefer, I will take every opinion into consideration

[jaunty shard]

ok so I went through my profile and disabled and re-enabled each mod 1 by 1, I think the culprit is lethalExpansion

[fast gull]

That's weird, lethal expansion was competible the last version i checked lol

I will look it up however

[warm pine]

i accidentally clicked this like 10 times without thinking

sorry if that sent you something 💀

[native cloak]

Lol

[fast gull]

What?

[warm pine]

the tell the dev to update the mod button

it interacted like a button

[fast gull]

ohhh

no, its just a desription

[warm pine]

oh lmao

[fast gull]

so mods that done use it (aka the ones that didnt update their mod) show that message

[native cloak]

It would have been funny though

[fast gull]

I though of making something external sync but I tought it was a bad idea

[native cloak]

For obvious reasons

I may have just clicked it because it clicked like a button

[fast gull]

yea, its just a button to switch pages

It would make more sense if there were actually more than just one page xD

[native cloak]

LCV+ leaked

[warm pine]

any new options or just the delicious new layout

[fast gull]

the update was just for the API

and I still may need to update more things

because people dont like the interface that much

but im already developing LCV update

Still, I had to relax so im rn chilling lol

[native cloak]

Lol

I like the new layout but also I haven't played around with it too much to have much Feedback

[warm pine]

i didnt even see the menu update at first, and for some reason seeing if lcv is on the side of my save select screen is the main way of telling if i accidentally launched vanilla even if there are much better ways to tell 💀. so i checked back and realized

[fast gull]

Yea, I think maybe the change was to big

[warm pine]

i love it doe :D

[safe tundra]

For me, i dont actually get a settings page anymore, i had to roll back to the previous version to get it to appear

For ConfigurableCompany, that is

[fast gull]

The new settings panel is harder to see at first, appearing at the top left when you click "host", do you mind checking if that appears?

I will just update the layout to make it more visible, at least for now

[safe tundra]

Nah, it doesnt show up upon updating

[fast gull]

ow wow what

Can you see anythink in the console?

Ill get into it right now, can you send me the profile code?

[safe tundra]

Sure! 018dfc57-a963-936f-4c45-d303c1106b1d

might take a while cuz the touhou models tho, i can remove those and re-send the code if you need

[fast gull]

Don't worry

[safe tundra]

they wasnt even enabled when i opened the game anyways but ye

[fast gull]

I already imported the project, let me open the game with the console and I will fix the problem

[safe tundra]

yeah, i got this in my log, dunno if thats normal for it

no red warnings tho rly, besides morecompany and lethalthings doing something

[native cloak]

That's weird

[fast gull]

hmm, I dont have the warning logs enabled

But never saw those yellow lines

[safe tundra]

lmao

yeah i got no clue

[fast gull]

That should not affect the display but I will look into it regardless

[safe tundra]

alright, no worries
For now i'll just use the older version

[fast gull]

Alright

Keep in mind that configurations are not compatible between versions

I mean, nothing will break, just that configurations will reset upon changing from 3.0.0 to any other version

Seems like some mod updated a class and forgot to modify one variable that directly affects the load of configurable company lol

Wait no, my bad, what I just said is completly false

[fast gull]

@safe tundraFound the issue, seems like the menu is somehow being added to the Personal assignments mod lol

[safe tundra]

Hmmm
Employee assignments is bugged, it always popups in the main menu on top of the screen with the thing saying its out of date when its not

and the creator hasnt updated for a while

[fast gull]

Well, the issue is related to them calling that panel "Canvas"

[safe tundra]

so i imagine your new LCV uses a similar popup system and conflicts
Yeahhh

[fast gull]

So doing a lookup for the scene canvas returns that canvas instead of the correct one

[safe tundra]

honestly i might just turn that mod off
cuz i heard the assignments are sorta buggy anyways

[fast gull]

it really uses the same system of the old lcv, the only difference is this one searchs for the scene canvas while the other gets another object from the menu

[fast gull]

I will post a fix anyway

[safe tundra]

Alright sweet, nice one

[fast gull]

@safe tundra Just uploaded the release with the menu fix, tell me if any other issue occurs!

[safe tundra]

alright ty! i will try in a min

[noble jetty]

yup, same here. Wonder why it hasn't been patched yet.

And yup, also came here to check if I was the only one with LCV disappearing completely after the update.
Glad it got fixed (I'm about to test rn) 🙂

[safe tundra]

Yep! works fine for me!

[fast gull]

It should work with any mod even if they change the canvas for any reason

[noble jetty]

no issues so far, fix works for me as well ❤️ - and I'm happy there's only 2 icons per row instead of the 3 we talked about 😄

[elfin pine]

Hey, I have a question. With this mod, can I force Masked enemies to spawn on every moon? I'm looking to replace Skinwalkers and Masked Enemy Overhaul mods, because for some reason the masked are able to walk through the ship doors.

But Mirage only has natural spawn + the spawn chance on a corpse

[fast gull]

Currently you can make masked spawn on every moon by changing the settingsyea, but you can't set the value for individual moons (for now)

[fast gull]

Just a remainder for those who are interested in the development of the mod, you can look up the current feature being worked on and formally suggest your own here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b-4zDakbTEjvyTS-qmPLkjE4tKIJpX6CDYSbLuKvM0Q/edit?usp=sharing

[ruby flicker]

noooo rip interior chances

player shield seems cool!

[ruby flicker]

can't wait for max hp amount hopefully it works with lethal regeneration when its out

[fast gull]

Im trying to see if I can find an alternative (already have one in mind but I havent done any tests)

[native cloak]

👀

[native cloak]

Can't wait to get back to Lethal, I've been busy with other games. Once I'm done suffering, I'm beating my 1.2k quota run solo

Obviously with 25x spawns because funny

[fast gull]

I just discovered a tool within bepinex that will allow me to almost do everything. Im testing if that would allow for interior checking

[native cloak]

oh wow

LCV about to get crazy

[fast gull]

ladies and gentlemans, I happily announce that after a lot of testing, I can guarantee that I am capable of modifying every single stored variable and information for every enemy in the game, even modded ones

[warped ledge]

Nice

[native cloak]

This is huge

[fast gull]

Guys I have a quality of life question that will affect the rest of the mod

hypothetically, if you had the option to modify some values per level, would you rather have those settings grouped by type of variable or level. for example

by variable

Some variable

• Planet A
• Planet B

by planet

Some planet

• Config A
• Config B

[native cloak]

I think by Planet

[pallid estuary]

took me a little to understand but I think by planet seems easier on eyes.

[fast gull]

Perfect then :)

[fast gull]

Hey!, what mod do you use to load custom levels? Let me know to add compatibility

[native cloak]

Um

I think it's called Level Loader or something but I could be wrong

[prime warren]

LevelLethalLoader is the predominant custom level and dungeon loader

Let me know if you need anything

[empty willow]

The mod just doesn't seem to be working. Like all the changes are saved and it has worked before but right now it just isn't changing anything. Quotas, spawns, values, nothing's working.

[native cloak]

are you clicking the save button?

[empty willow]

yep

[native cloak]

Can you send me your profile? Ansuz is sleeping I think

I'll see if I can figure out the problem

[empty willow]

yeah hang on just a moment

[native cloak]

@empty willow I know what is causing your issue, LethalExpansion is.

You can disable it but it would remove one of your scrap mods

Or you can edit the settings in the LethalExpansion Mod Menu, Stuff like enemy spawns and weather should still work with LCV but any other settings that overlap with LethalExpansion will be overwritten.

[empty willow]

but like
quota was staying default earlier as well

[native cloak]

Maybe not all things get overwritten?

If you don't want to remove your scrap mod, I would just make sure all of the settings in LethalExpansion and LCV are synced

Maybe Ansuz will make LCV compatible with LethalExpansion but until then, this should work

[warped ledge]

By planet (moon) would be better I think

[warped ledge]

Most modded moons seem to use Lethal Level Loader, but Wesley's Moons right now uses Lethal Expansion Core

[empty willow]

alrighty
thanks for the help!

[fast gull]

Your mod does pretty good at allowing compatibility so no worries :)

[native cloak]

No problem, here to help

[fast gull]

some values cannot be overwritten as lethalexpansion hard types them, adding compatibility risks breaking it with other mods. I will try to add it in some other way with the update

[prime warren]

https://tenor.com/view/autism-creature-yippee-creature-yippee-autism-woo-gif-10988973615622974862

[fast gull]

perfect, thanks

Oh, one last thing @prime warren Yesterday while checking compatibility I saw certain moons that created mutliple instances of same enemy types (for example adding a MouthDog enemy type twice), it not a compatibility issue but that might not be good when there are a lot of moons and the same things are instantiated multiple times.

Anyhow seems like this issue happens in certain moons so might be an issue with the assets the developer uses. Just to take into consideration

[prime warren]

can you please elaborate

[fast gull]

Okay, here is an example, I checked random moons that used LLL, some of them are for some reason instantiating existing enemy types (Celestria moon adding every vanilla enemy type to the game again). I've checked it by registereing every time a new enemy type instance is created

[prime warren]

oh

dont worry about that

working as intended

they should all be getting destroyed when you enter a game, no?

[fast gull]

Okay, just making sure, the class intantiation was not the same as the one the vanilla loads. for example Celestria Giant enemy type was different (instance hash) from Vanill Giant enemy type

[glossy ether]

this is just an average titan run

[prime warren]

hm

now that is odd

[fast gull]

Let me make sure about that, regardless that might produce an issue because if the game updates the enemy type, those wont get updated

[prime warren]

correct, they shouldnt exist

[fast gull]

I will notify right when I check if they get instantly destroyed or something

[prime warren]

LLL's core design goal is to make content development as close to 1:1 as vanilla possible so custom LLL moons use enemytype scriptableobjects in the same way vanilla levels do, but I replace the reference and destroy them based on matching asset names in startofround-ish

in theory anyway

[fast gull]

Alright, even tho the hashes do not match, they seem to be destroyed right after the game starts

So the only other question I have is if the enemy types just get swapped by the vanilla ones thus vanilla changes applying or if they are considered separate instances

[prime warren]

they should be the same

[fast gull]

Alright

I will notify you if I see anything else, thank you

[manic cairn]

Try DamageScaling mod, you can just set received damage to 0.5 and basically your hp is 200

Does anyone have a similar issue where the weather doesn't sync with vanilla players? For example in my PoV offense is rainy but other players are normal

[fast gull]

weather options require all players to have the mod

Doesnt a small tag in the tooltio say it?

[manic cairn]

No, I didn't change that option at all

[fast gull]

Oh

You didnt change the weather override either right?

[manic cairn]

Yes

Weirdly enough I also encountered the issue when joining public rooms, even though I'm not the host

[fast gull]

Do you have any other mod that can modify weather or is related to it?

[fast gull]

One question for those who use the rolling giant mod, have you ever seen it in custom moons?

[manic cairn]

I don't think so

 'NotAtomicBomb-TerminalApi',
 'Evaisa-HookGenPatcher',
 'Evaisa-LethalLib',
 'Toskan4134-LethalRegeneration',
 'RickArg-Helmet_Cameras',
 'Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils',
 'hesukastro-LCRemoteTerminal',
 'Jamil-Corporate_Restructure',
 'AMRV-ConfigurableCompany',
 'AMRV-LethalCompanyVariables',
 'LethalAPI-LethalAPI_Terminal',
 'SoraYuki-ShowAmmoCount',
 'TheSecretDev-Unlimited_Scan',
 'taffyko-NameplateTweaks',
 'CTNOriginals-CrossHair',
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 'Hardy-LCMaxSoundsFix',
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[native cloak]

I don't play custom moons

[ruby flicker]

oh thank god for a second i thought this post got removed but it was shoved to the bottom of my followed feeds

[pliant lintel]

I am not sure why the weather de-sync issue happens, me and my friends get the different weather
Ex) when I get stormy my friends don't get any weather

[manic cairn]

yeah, the solution is to make all players have the mod, but I think the main appeal of LSV is that it works with vanilla players

[pliant lintel]

Then I assume everyone has to have mods like weathertweaks then

[fast gull]

@pliant lintel @manic cairn Do you mind sending me the profile codes to check the issue?. I also need the configuration for LCV

[fast gull]

what mod is LSV?

[pliant lintel]

Steam or LethalC?

also that happens even when I didnt touch any variables

[fast gull]

the profile code of your modded profile

[pliant lintel]

oh

[fast gull]

hmm that is weird, if no settings are modified LCV just skips that feature

there might be a compatibility issue with sonething perhaps

[manic cairn]

My bad, I mean LCV 😅

[fast gull]

oh lol, dont worry

However keep in mind although LCV works with vanilla players, some options wont

[manic cairn]

Sure, here it is
018e284c-9f63-304a-ff45-ba1fb8f67a61

[fast gull]

I will also need the configuration (you can export it with the "copy to clipboard" option)

[manic cairn]

I'm using r2modman as of now, this does't export the configs?

[fast gull]

is it correct that LCV is disabled? or is a profile issue?

[manic cairn]

Oh yeah I have it disabled due to that issue

When I enable it, the weather in my PoV is out of sync

[fast gull]

For now the configurations from LCV are not exported with the profile itself, this is something that ConfigurableCompany needs to address and is currecntly being worked on

[fast gull]

Alright, I will enable it and check

[manic cairn]

Ah I see, so it's in the game

[fast gull]

Yea

[fast gull]

thanks

So your weather options were fully set to default, right?

[manic cairn]

Yes, I didn't touch any weather settings

I actually have a save data that can reproduce this

When LCV enabled March will be normal for me, but when I disable it, it will be flooded

[fast gull]

Right now Im testing the issue with a friend and we both see the settings correctly

Can you provide me with the save file?

[manic cairn]

Not sure how to export individual save data, So I'll just give you the whole thing

Use save data 2

[fast gull]

you just need to send the LCSaveFile2

but yea thats okay

[manic cairn]

Ah okay, thanks a lot

[fast gull]

Alright yea, seems like a synchronization issue with players without the mod

This might be a regression, I will fix it with the next release. For now you can force synchronization by setting No weather chance to 0

@pliant lintel @manic cairn Let me know if this fixes the issue (temporarly, I will drop a hotfix for it)

[pliant lintel]

Oh alright, I'll try that, thanks

[fast gull]

Dont worry by setting it to 0, if you dont use the use weather override you wont need it

[manic cairn]

Okay, thanks!

[fast gull]

you will still have planets without weather :)

[manic cairn]

Okay that really worked if I'm the host, but If I join another room with LCV on, my weather is out of sync

[fast gull]

That's because it sets it to default when you join a server expecting the server to send the configuration

so it only works if the host has the mod

[manic cairn]

ah okay

[amber pewter]

I'm going to sound like a right noob now but can anyone tell me how to open the mod in game? I can't seem to find it in my game and have installed it the same way I have with all my other mods

[fast gull]

right after you click "host" you will se a button on the top left corner of the screen

keep in mind this button wont appear in the challenge moon

[ruby flicker]

doesn't death penalty work without others with mod installed it just doesn't show the amount you configured

[fast gull]

it requires others to have the mod

limitations of the game

[ruby flicker]

oh

[warm pine]

is it normal for it to spam this

[ruby flicker]

hell im remaking my modpack again

[fast gull]

yea dont worry is just during the loading phase

[native cloak]

@fast gull

[pliant lintel]

Question: Idk if im misunderstanding but if i set "Inside enemy power multiplier" to 0 will the enemies spawn no matter how high the power is?

[fast gull]

0 will block spawns, you should set it high for that (setting it to 300 will for sure let every enemy spawn always, you can set higher value too)

[pliant lintel]

oh alright, thanks for the answer

[fast gull]

no problem!

[fast gull]

cant hear the audio but seems someone got betrayed

[pliant lintel]

now that i can spawn a lot of dogs naturally

i can feel more pain ahhaah

[fast gull]

seems like a fair scenario

maybe @native cloak does like it too

[ruby flicker]

i love setting quots to 131

[ruby flicker]

forest giant on offense!

[native cloak]

Easy

[fast gull]

This is peak. Someone made a web about how to use LCV. I really love the dedication

Just a remainder for everyone here that you can suggest changes in The development excel and also know what is currently being worked on!

[ruby flicker]

oo nice

[native cloak]

This is huge

[fast gull]

@wintry eagle Do you mind pinning the excel in the thread? Thanks!

[wintry eagle]

Done 🙂 Easiest that way to find among the pings.

[fast gull]

Understood, thank you :)

[safe tundra]

Is it normal that the clock desyncs?
For me, when i host and change the daytime speed, for me it will say the correct time, but for everyone in my game it would show the vanilla time, leading to them rushing back to the ship too early and not being able to tell what time it is as it then stays stuck at 12

[fast gull]

What are your clock settings

as it needs to be synchronized, thus if clients dont have the mod, there will be desycn

[safe tundra]

we all have the same mods and configs
We set the daytime speed to 0.8 or whatever on the save file config in game, hit save, loaded in as normal

we have no other mods that affect the clock

[fast gull]

Hmm

[safe tundra]

or wait

actually

Would this mod surely not just use the in-game time?

it seems accurate when we used "Fixed" mode for the time

thats the only conflict i can think of

[fast gull]

So the problem happens with the balanced setting, right?

[safe tundra]

yes
I will try with fixed today and see what happens

[fast gull]

The update should be ready this week

Any features you want to be added may be included so make sure to anotate your suggestions

Also the whole mod is changed, old issues may no longer exist and new issues may ocurr (if you think some mod may have incompatiblity, send a message and I will tell the compatibility with it, enven tho, any mod should be compatible)

[ruby flicker]

what will the update contain

[fast gull]

compatibility with custom levels and enemies and individualized settings among other things, also some suggestions are added, corrected issues and new config types that you might like

[ruby flicker]

very cool

[safe tundra]

Tried yesterday
i think the time was synced, we set it to 0.8
When the time hit 12, it rolled back to 8pm, and then when it hit 12 again it left as normal
Is that intended?

[native cloak]

W

[fast gull]

uh, when it hit 12pm it rolled back?, that does not seem normal

Ill look into the issue

[safe tundra]

I mean it worked in the sense we got extra time lol

[golden swallow]

Does anyone here know if this mod breaks vanilla compatibility?

[ruby flicker]

no i tested you can join or host vanilla lobbys with this mod but if a option says client synchronize it needs everyone for that setting to work

[golden swallow]

Thank you! You mean a variable that's configurable in-game with this mod will indicate that?

[ruby flicker]

yes if it says in blue client synchorize everyone needs it installed but vanillas can still join but it won't effect them

which would prob cause credit desync

[golden swallow]

Ok that's awesome. Thank you for your helpfulness!

[safe tundra]

And again today, for my friend specating, it hit 12 but for me it was only 8pm or so

[native cloak]

Do you both have the mod?

[safe tundra]

yep
We always use the same mods + configs

[native cloak]

That's weird, I never had any issues with that

if I were you, I would try trouble shooting to see if it's caused by another mod

[safe tundra]

Set to Fixed, 0.75 speed
Do you use the ShipClock mod?

[native cloak]

I do

[safe tundra]

thats the only other clock mod i have

[native cloak]

Ya Shipclock shouldn't mess with anything

do you by chance also have LethalExpansion?

[safe tundra]

LECore

[native cloak]

mh, I don't think that would break anything but try disabling that

[fast gull]

There is a known bug with weather (fix in progress) where you need to set no weather chance to 0 if other playera dont have the mod

[fast gull]

wait, if he has the mod too and the time desyncs, there might be something wrong in the profile, check if importing the profile again fixes it

[safe tundra]

they always import to a fresh profile every session with the most up to date code, and they never mess with the profile
We got it again today

this time we had ship clock off too

The pack we're using: 018e5eb0-67fc-1abf-4281-69849c2b0e0d

not sure what other mod could be messing with the clock or HUD

And cuz of this, when we went back to the ship (first day), and left, it still said 3 days and took a good 2 mins or so before it brought up the report and advanced to the next day

but yeah we was in orbit for a while confused why it hadnt done it yet

[native cloak]

He means you try and import your own profile again

I had an issue a while back with my profile where a mod was enabled when it wasn't and because of that, I had some issues

[safe tundra]

hm
i've heard of that, and for some reason old config files leftover from mods you uninstalled can still do stuff (???)

i have no clue how that works honestly

[native cloak]

Ya

Try re-importing your profile and see if the issue still happens

[safe tundra]

Will do

[native cloak]

It's just one of the easiest troubleshooting solutions and should always be taking into consideration just incase so we know it's not a profile issue

[fast gull]

what, the time stays even after launching the ship? That should not even be possible by how the game works lol

Still, the new version is almost ready so I think would be better to check if that issue still occurs with the newer version as I modified how the time works

[safe tundra]

Yep
We was in orbit, but it waited until more time passed
I assume until my desynced extra time hit 12

[safe tundra]

Alright

[fast gull]

Normally the game starts a countdown when you use the lever to abandon a planet, after some seconds it triggers a method to reset time and other stuff for the next day

There must be something that is modifying how the reset works

[fast gull]

Also you have a really nice party at the ship lol

[fast gull]

Assurance

Still assurance

[warped ledge]

How big did you make the map size multiplier on this one? 😵‍💫

[fast gull]

x10

I was testing the new update, somehow even a x10 is instant load

(the new LCV update, not LC)

[fast gull]

God there are too many configurations to test for the update

[last isle]

Do you need help testing?

[fast gull]

I might, my betatester disappeared :(

[ruby flicker]

what happened

[fast gull]

Nothing to worry about, humans being humans lol

[last isle]

Well, let me know if you do!

[native cloak]

@fast gull Just got a new PB for Duo Quota on 25x spawns

1.7k

also managed to kill 2 nutcrackers back to back

first time

[fast gull]

Thank you :)

[fast gull]

thats pretty high to be fair

[native cloak]

For vanilla, not really but for 25x spawns, that's crazy

[fast gull]

My lord, if AC had options, now this has like three times that

I need to check if Configurable company can handle this many options but after that, the update is pretty much ready

[native cloak]

Huge

[fast gull]

@here Let me know what you prefer.

• Update the new version as a "beta", meaning it contains the updated version but not every configuration that was in the previous version exists (due to internal project problems)
• Wait for the full release with every configuration
• Quick fix containins the legacy configurations (may procude unexpected behavior)

[native cloak]

I would just wait for the full release then fix any problems people run into

[warped ledge]

I'd prefer to wait for the full release

[fast gull]

Alright

Also sources tell me the game will update next week

[noble jetty]

OMG. Reliable sources?
Yes! But also, no! Everything's gonna break T_T
Tons of old abandoned but working mods will need to be discarded.
There's really so much that can be improved, networking handling included. Fingers crossed T_T

[ruby flicker]

can't wait for v50

[fast gull]

Dont worry, most of those legacy mods will be inherited by new developers, also most of the things wont break. And keep in mind that old abandoned mods are also bad because newer mods need to maintain compatibility

I dont know what will the new version add but I dont think it will break many thing

[fast gull]

Still WIP But I can count the LCV update has a total of +-327 individual settings (This value represents individual configuration values and depend on the mods you have among this one)

[ruby flicker]

wait we get to edit moons now?

[fast gull]

Who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[prime warren]

when do you change stuff

[fast gull]

It depends on what mods are installed

with LLL, I decided to prioritize LCV settings but let the live settings from LLL override it

might change depending on what users want as the standard behavior

[prime warren]

yippeee ❤️

next update should be better to work with as a whole

[fast gull]

wdym?

[prime warren]

next lll update cleaned up some stuff up and doing item and enemy stuff now

and porting a lot of le stuff

so should standardize a lot

[fast gull]

the only complain I might have is that some moons add enemy types that are just the vanilla ones so that messed up my code a lot

Not sure if you modified something about that

[prime warren]

that used to be an issue before 1.1.0 but should be working now 🤔

[fast gull]

wait really? :D

[prime warren]

can you describe the issue a lil more

[fast gull]

Of course

To dynamically detect the enemy types I use the Awake and compare enemy names

however the result was that a lot of custom moons added the vanilla enemy types, some more than once

so during the pre-game the enemy type of the moon (and the one in the spawn rarities) did not match the ones from the game

[prime warren]

ah

[fast gull]

not sure if I explained it correctly lol

[prime warren]

no you are

awake on scriptableobjects can be inherintly unsafe without validating the data little in this context

[fast gull]

yea, sadly hashes are not actually deterministic

[prime warren]

object comparisons should work

[fast gull]

anyway I found a workaround, was just wondering if you modified something about it

[prime warren]

nahhh thats

[fast gull]

didn't check, however the main problem is with SpawnableEnemyWithRarity

and with large cache size, but that should not be a problem

[prime warren]

so basicially lll is designed to mirror the vanilla workflow as much as possible, which uses all the same scripts etc.

this means custom moons use the same SelectableLevel script in editor which needs the same spawnableenemywithrarity etc. at runtime i scrape vanilla for all its unique content and swap in the real references asap

but scriptableobject.awake invokes when i load in the assetbundles w/ the "fakes"

[fast gull]

Makes sense

When do you replace the stuff, right away when you load it from the asset bundle or later in the game?

Cause I noticed the gameobjects from the invalid enemy types are only destroyed after the game starts

[prime warren]

cant be when i load it from assetbundle

cuz i cant access the real stuff until we enter the ship scene

and i have to load on main menu to register network stuff

[fast gull]

Yea, its sad that selectable levels load after the game starts

Makes sense but damn that made things hard

[prime warren]

we've looked into ways into solving that 🤠

just not priority

[fast gull]

my way of solving it lo

[prime warren]

once lll is standerdized tho i do have all the vanilla stuff in lists you can access

[fast gull]

I tried to force the load but unity refuses to load them correctly

[prime warren]

whats that string in assign

[fast gull]

the planet name

[prime warren]

whats that for

[fast gull]

used as ID

[prime warren]

sorry king

gotta change

translations will break that

only slightly consistent thing is the object name

[fast gull]

ffffffffff

Didn't even noticed about translations

I can still work with it

isn't more consistant with the prefab?

rather than the object name?

[prime warren]

the planetprefab?

[fast gull]

yup

[prime warren]

no mods change that

and for some vanilla moons its 1 prefab used between multiple moons

[fast gull]

alright

Still, I can modify the SelectableLevel class, I might add an internal ID with a preloader

As this is only really used for vanilla moons, dynamic moons are checked thanks to LLL