Lethal company variables [Configure everything to your liking]. (formally LethalCompanyVariables )

[native cloak]

Lightning adds a challenge and so does flooded

Foggy just adds fog

And eclipse and rain do nothing

You could remove those 2 if you want

[fast gull]

wait, what does flooded do to the planet

[native cloak]

But keep the rest

[fast gull]

nah kinda funny to leave them in

my only problem was if it became impossible

[native cloak]

It floods up to the ship but you can still sell stuff by holding your breath and jumping when you are running out of your oxygen

[fast gull]

lmao that must be fun

[native cloak]

Stamina recharges underwater on that map for some reason so it's actually doable

[fast gull]

it's not a bug, it's a feature

well not that this issue is fixed

lets see what is the issue with monster spawning

[native cloak]

I honestly like the weather company building

[fast gull]

what is that?

[native cloak]

Just weather in general on the company building

[fast gull]

Now that I think about it

no one has ever flooded the company bulding

[native cloak]

Do you want me to run my bugged version or reinstall it with the code I sent you?

[fast gull]

I should try to announce a bit the mod, it has a lot of cool features but no one realizes xD

[fast gull]

the bugged one

[native cloak]

K

[fast gull]

this was the code right?

[native cloak]

ya

That should have broken spawns for whatever reason even though that is from my working profile

[fast gull]

Do you mind sending your LCV config file?

[native cloak]

The ingame one?

[fast gull]

yea

[native cloak]

Ya, 1 sec. Let me make sure spawns still work on this one

[fast gull]

Don't worry if they dont work, thats what we want

If they work we can't reproduce the issue

[native cloak]

That's not 100% the problem I'm having

[fast gull]

The config file is located in this folder and should have that name

1 if its the first slot, 2 if is the second and so on

[fast gull]

??

[native cloak]

This profile has a mind of it's own. It works but if I send someone a code, it does not let them join and the spawns do not work. In order to get an identical copy of this profile that actually let's people join you, you have to send the entire profile folder from file explorer

It is very strange

[fast gull]

hmm

dont worry about that

i mean

if you have a mod on your local that is not in thunderstore

that might be the issue

[native cloak]

All my mods are in though

[fast gull]

but otherwise I can just check in the console to see what is happening behind the scenes

[native cloak]

K

[fast gull]

The one that ends with Config

Thats the actual save file xD

[native cloak]

Hopefully that works

oh

I see

[fast gull]

I should make an easier way to share these configs...

[native cloak]

If the spawning works I would be very confused

[fast gull]

Imagine if it was all a bad dream

everything works

[native cloak]

Lol

[fast gull]

it just bad luck

[native cloak]

I swear, this specific profile I have is just blessed

[fast gull]

so these were your settings right?

cause that 125 turret multiplier seems weird to me

[native cloak]

If I copy it or make a new modpack, spawns don't work

[native cloak]

Not exactly

[fast gull]

what

can you seend a screenshot?

[fast gull]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I know what is happening

my windows is in another language

[fast gull]

so the decimal separator is detected as a commna instead of dot

[native cloak]

and probabilities are all set to 1

[native cloak]

Lol

[fast gull]

okay now its correct

[native cloak]

Ya

[fast gull]

Okay, I will join march and check if enemies spawn

[native cloak]

If you go to Assurance, you should get an instant enemy spawn or it may take like 10 seconds

never takes any longer (At least with my special version)

March should also be the same

[fast gull]

hmmmmm

[native cloak]

What time?

[fast gull]

8:30

[native cloak]

Weird

[fast gull]

Do you mind starting the game and letting me join

[native cloak]

Ya

It won't let you though

[fast gull]

Do you have the console open?

[native cloak]

ya

It will say some error logs

[fast gull]

Then its okay if it does not let me as long as there are errors

Okay... how can I join you

I might need to add you to steam

[native cloak]

Server name is cooljs2002 and tag is 1234

[fast gull]

I forgot that was a thing

[native cloak]

If that doesn't work, you can add me on steam

319877806

friend code

[fast gull]

found it

and as spected, error occured

[native cloak]

But then if I copy my folder and send the entire folder, then joining works and spawns work

[fast gull]

I wasn't expecting that

Hmm

send the whole folder

I think Im starting to notice the problem

[native cloak]

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/dun6x09xfkalmx8vlirj3/h?rlkey=k3cts7oqw577aeyhqaxxi654o&dl=0

[fast gull]

I will setup to compare the two folders of mods

just by binary comparision

[native cloak]

I don't know why they would end up being different and why spawning only works for my copy

[fast gull]

well the code share does not share everything

there are local configs that are not shared

such as doorstep config

but I will tell you once I check

[native cloak]

k

[fast gull]

these all the differences

[native cloak]

I'll stay in the game with the same tag and server name incase you also want to try joining using my copy

[native cloak]

weird

why?

[fast gull]

I see you shared a version with a different MMHOOK

[native cloak]

I don't exactly know what that means lol

[native cloak]

so do you think that is the problem?

[fast gull]

Im still checking but seems like there are some differences between the profiles

[native cloak]

Also wasn't that the mod I disabled and re-enabled when I was trying to troubleshoot the spawning problem?

then my problem got fixed?

[fast gull]

I dont understand

why you have different HookGenPatchers

they are literally the same version

I dont understand what is happening

I think that mod creates the dlls on their own wich would make sense

but I dont know why iit changes the behavior

[native cloak]

what happens if I just disable that mod. What mods rely on it?

[fast gull]

a bunch

I think im starting to understand what is happening

its's not the mod's fault

but other mod that is using it is causing the issue

[native cloak]

Looks like just these for my modpack

[fast gull]

maybe a mod is changing the assembly in a way it shouldn't

[native cloak]

maybe?

It would be one of these 4 though

[fast gull]

hmm what of those mods would need to modify the class...

[native cloak]

LethalThings is the only mod that actually adds new stuff to it

[fast gull]

hold on

what about lethal presents

[native cloak]

Lethal presents just add a chance for enemies to spawn when opening a present

[fast gull]

The problem is not on what they add

but on how they change the code for that to work

im just gonna deactivate all of them and try one by one

worst case, lethal lib breaks it

and I would hate it if thats the case

[native cloak]

Ya, try that

I would but I do not want to break my copy

I can honestly live without Lethal Presents but it would suck if lock doors is the problem, you need lock doors for surviving 10x spawns

[fast gull]

I dont even know if that could be the issue

but seeing that it works once the hooks are generated but not previously

its... weird

it might just be a loading error and method priority

[native cloak]

I think it does have something to do with that, right after I disabled and re-enabled it, my spawns started working again

And

When I made a second modpack to try spawns on a fresh modpack, it was also installed

And spawns didn't work

I bet if I make a brand new modpack and don't add it, spawns and joining would work

[fast gull]

Try to create a profile without any mod that depends on the hookGenPatcher

to be sure

[native cloak]

K

[fast gull]

im trying to see all the differences between the code with the profile and without

[native cloak]

Looks like Lethal Presents is safe

[fast gull]

wdym by "safe"?

[native cloak]

I mean, it isn't on my second modpack that doesn't work either

wait

I just made a brand new modpack

This is everything it has

and spawns don't work

[fast gull]

those are literally the mods I used to test the first time and worked

[native cloak]

ya, nothing

[fast gull]

This is for sure an edge-case

same in-game config right?

[native cloak]

yep

[fast gull]

do you mind sending me that profile code?

[native cloak]

ya

018d797b-6636-e8c3-230a-c42c03d0edb5

[fast gull]

Im glad there is no issue with HookGenPatcher tho

[native cloak]

Do you think it has something to do with my Thunderstore?

[slate wraith]

help

[fast gull]

@native cloak when you test, do you use an existing game or always create a new one

@slate wraithWhat is the issue?

[slate wraith]

i installed mod and monsters are not spawning

[native cloak]

brand new

[fast gull]

We are currently reviewing that issue

Do you have any information on when did it stop working?

[slate wraith]

when I installed the mod and played the game alone, I saw a slime monster

but i played with my friends haven't seen it since

[fast gull]

@native cloakon what map did you test?

[native cloak]

Assurance

[fast gull]

slime or any monsteR?

[slate wraith]

do I need to show the mod lineup?

[native cloak]

but any should work

[fast gull]

We are currently isolating the issue but it does not seem to be a problem of mod compatibility

[slate wraith]

41 expe

[slate wraith]

does that mean the mode is fine?

[fast gull]

@slate wraith What configuration values do you have set for enemy spawning, cap, power and individual probabilities?

[native cloak]

I'm starting to think it's not a bug with the mod but a bug with my Thunderstore

[slate wraith]

how to see that settings?

[fast gull]

Not really, there is a weird issue but there is no problem with any interaction with other mods

[slate wraith]

oh

[fast gull]

those you set in the menu, right before you start the game, in the menu at the left side of the screen

[slate wraith]

i saw this monsters

btw

[slate wraith]

ill check this rq

[fast gull]

@native cloak so vanilla spawns some monsters at the start of the day, LCV is preventing that somehow

[fast gull]

Now if you click on host you should see a menu

[native cloak]

Well then why does my special copy work?

[fast gull]

im not sure

[fast gull]

Hmm you dont have the mod installed 🤔

[native cloak]

Can you screenshot your entire mod folder?

[slate wraith]

what mod?

[slate wraith]

how to

[fast gull]

Wait, are you using Lethal company variables right?

[slate wraith]

wdym??

[native cloak]

You might be in the wrong channel

[fast gull]

@native cloakyour special profile works because it has MonstersPlus enabled

or at least a weird version of it

[native cloak]

But it's disabled in my mod list

[fast gull]

thunderstore being fun and letting it remain enabled

that makes sense because if you share a profile, it detects the mod as disabled

but is still enabled on your profile

[slate wraith]

i need to download lethalcompany mod menu??

[native cloak]

But how does that explain me making a new profile and spawns not working?

[fast gull]

Let me explain, could you share what mods you have?, you can just screenshot

[fast gull]

I just compared to vanilla and it's because what I told you about the spawn curves

@slate wraithIm sorry but your issue might be with other mod as you dont have LCV downloaded

[slate wraith]

what is LCV??

[native cloak]

Mh... so should I even attempt to fix the problem or should I keep it how it is since it's apparently working

[fast gull]

This thread is for Lethal company variables alongside it's management, your issue seems related to other different mod which we cannot determine

[slate wraith]

and i need to another too?

[fast gull]

LCV is LethalCompanyVariables, a Mod about modifying the gameplay and tweaking settings

[fast gull]

I mean, monsters plus is making enemies spawn on daytime wich is it's desired behavior

[native cloak]

Since we are actively talking, it put this thread at the top of the #1169056298856362105

[fast gull]

yea I noticed xD

[native cloak]

Lol

[fast gull]

so.. seems like there is no issue after all

just spawn multipliers not being that reliable due to how the game selects the enemies

[fast gull]

I mean

I could just add a setting to force some enemies at the morning and each hour xD

[native cloak]

Please do

[fast gull]

If you click those text a panel will appear with tons of options

[slate wraith]

yes it is

click enemy spawn probabilities??

wait

enemy = monster?

[fast gull]

yes

@slate wraithdO you mind remining me again of what is the problem you are having?

[slate wraith]

the monsters are not spawning

[native cloak]

And make the multiplier work with it. So it spawns 1 enemy but add a new multiplier that let's you customize the starting spawn number. I just realized I don't think this sentence makes any sense but I think you know what I mean. It's 6 AM and I'm tired

[fast gull]

Could you walk us on how you noticed that?

[fast gull]

lol its very early in the morning what are you doing

[native cloak]

I haven't slept

[slate wraith]

I saw a slime monster when I played the game alone after installing the mod, but then I shared the mod with my friends using thunderstone and we played together, but no monsters spawned for 3 days.

[native cloak]

I'm half nocturnal

[fast gull]

I think a "forced enemy amount on start" is a good addition but not sure why a multiplier for it if you can just change that value

[fast gull]

with wich mod

cause you didn't have this one at that time

[slate wraith]

ok

[native cloak]

Because I may not what 10 enemies to spawn at the beginning but more like 3 or 5

[slate wraith]

ill try with LCV

[native cloak]

Imagine if 10 things spawned instantly

[fast gull]

but the issue may still exists

[native cloak]

That would be horrible

[fast gull]

I recommend you to go to the thread of the mod that caused the problem and ask

[fast gull]

so you want like a range of spawns right¿

[native cloak]

I basically want a multiplier for the starting enemy spawn amount. So I can set it manually how many enemies I want to spawn at the start of the moon. If I set it to 3, I want 3 to spawn. (If I set it to 5, I want 5 to spawn.)

[fast gull]

Dammit to make it look "good" I need to implement something in the base mod

[fast gull]

Sorry mate I still dont get it

for example

if I create a new config called "Starting enemies" that accepts a value

and you set it to 2

then 2 enemies will spawn when you enter the moon

isn't that what you want?

[native cloak]

Yes

That's it

And the hourly spawns could also work the same way

[fast gull]

I dont think thats a good idea considering you have x10 spawns

[native cloak]

(With there own values obviously)

[fast gull]

because if you to 3 enemies

x10

every hour

my god

xD

[native cloak]

That would happen?

The starting enemy would get multiplied by the spawn multiplier?

[slate wraith]

still not spawning

im crying now

[fast gull]

i mean I could make it so it doesnt

In fact that makes more sense to not multiply it at all

[fast gull]

What time is in game?, enemies require some time before they spawn naturally

[slate wraith]

7:45

oh

maybe i install lethaldays

to real life time

is this problem??

[fast gull]

hmmmmmmmm

it might be

[native cloak]

Can you make them there own multipliers?

[fast gull]

I could but im not sure if that would be useful

[slate wraith]

how to settings Lethaldays

[fast gull]

if you can just change the value and not multiply it

[slate wraith]

'

In a reasonable amount of time

[fast gull]

you should ask that in its thread

[slate wraith]

where channel?

[native cloak]

Well ya, same thing. 1x5 is the same as 5. Either way works

[fast gull]

or in #modding-general as that not related to LCV

[fast gull]

Ill try to make it a range

but I would love to implement it like this

I hate UI design

[native cloak]

Ooooooh

That's seems neat

[fast gull]

I dont even know how to implement that kind of slider yet

That would require more time than usual

[native cloak]

Lol

I mean you can also just make you have to put in 2 values

[fast gull]

yea

I could

but is not bad to implement the double slider as that might benefit more configs and more developers who use the mod

[native cloak]

True

So going back to the spawning issue I'm having, I basically have a ghost MonstersPlus running spawns?

[fast gull]

yes xD

located inside BepInEx\plugin\ZeroExAlt-MonstersPlus

try enabling and disabling it again

ohhhhhhhhhh

now it makes sense that it changed behavior after you disabled and enabled all mods again

[native cloak]

I honestly don't mind it. It's spawning stuff at the beginning without breaking LCV spawning

[fast gull]

nah the only issue would be that it might go past the enemy cap

I mean you can just lower the cap

[native cloak]

Well sort of

Eh, it'll be a little bit higher that 10x. I'll just have to clickbait a little

[fast gull]

wdym

its still x10 enemy spawns

i mean lower the cap so the result of LCV + MonstersPlus is the true cap

[native cloak]

Well it's actually more than 10x if MonstersPlus is spawning too

I this MonstersPlus spawn cap is 16

I think default is 8

I mean enemy limit

16 was too small of a number for me, I needed it to go to 80 so I installed LCV and now it's a good balance I think

[fast gull]

weird balance you got

but im glat this mod helped on your cruisade with the enemy spawning

[wise charm]

Hello, @fast gull, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[fast gull]

what

[native cloak]

Harder game = more fun

[native cloak]

?

[fast gull]

i meaan kinda

I dont know what It said that message

wait

mod helped

[wise charm]

Hello, @fast gull, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[fast gull]

lol

[native cloak]

Lol

Mod help

[wise charm]

Hello, @native cloak, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[native cloak]

That's funny

[fast gull]

I hope you also found more settings that just enemy spawning that made your game a better experience in the end

[slate wraith]

woah

yay

wow

[native cloak]

I did

[slate wraith]

i fix it finally

i uninstall lethaldays

[fast gull]

congratulations mate

[slate wraith]

and i saw spider

yay

[slate wraith]

ty so much

[fast gull]

You can also modify daytime speed with this mod if you like tho

[slate wraith]

how?/

i dont want so slow

[fast gull]

although depending on your settings client may need to also install the mod

[fast gull]

there is a setting for time speed

you can make it a bit slower than usual

or faster...

[slate wraith]

oh

[native cloak]

Does modifying daytime speed also affect how fast stuff spawn?

[fast gull]

it shouldnt

not because I dont like it

[slate wraith]

im so happy

[fast gull]

but because the enemy spawn is based on a number that goes down every "second"

and changing that would break every single script

[native cloak]

Oh

Well either way, I'm probably not going to mess with my scuffed modpack, I'm even too afraid to enable MonstersPlus again

[fast gull]

you have it on dropbox you should not be afraid

[native cloak]

That's true

[fast gull]

but I ill try to add the settings asap so you dont have to rely on monsters plus

[native cloak]

That would be nice

Might want to check the config for it to see how the spawning works

[fast gull]

wdym

[native cloak]

It spawns an enemy every 60 seconds (configurable) and a few more useful things that I forgot what they do

[fast gull]

ohh yea

I saw how it was coded

seems to just select a number between 1 and 100

and if it can, spawn an enemy based on that number

[slate wraith]

dude

[fast gull]

wich I saw was not configurabgle, each enemy has its own change to spawn and that cannot be changed in monsters plus

[slate wraith]

how to delete this?

[native cloak]

One of the problems I didn't like was how the minimum time was 30 seconds and couldn't be lowered

[fast gull]

To disable the console you must go to r2modman, Edit configs > BepInEx.cfg and search for "console enabled" and disable it

[slate wraith]

i use thunderstone

[fast gull]

I mean it kinda makes sense, spawning enemies each second should not be fun for the game

but I usually tend to allow the user to set any value except if it breaks the whole game

[fast gull]

Is there an "edit configs" button?

[native cloak]

Exactly my thought

[slate wraith]

yes

[fast gull]

Ussers fault if they want to spawn 100 enemies every second xD

[fast gull]

Then is the same

go to the bepinex config and search fo the console enabled config and disable it

[native cloak]

Lol

[slate wraith]

this?

[fast gull]

no

this one

[slate wraith]

false?

[fast gull]

yes

[native cloak]

Yes

And save

[slate wraith]

wow

How do you know so much?

[fast gull]

experience and blood developing mods

[slate wraith]

I've been really struggling with this today.

Friends too

[native cloak]

I also actually learned I could do that from Ansuz a day or 2 ago

Saved me like 5 fps

[fast gull]

xDD

[slate wraith]

wa

sigma respect

[fast gull]

I tend yo just be curious with anything I look, so I just learned all that configs xD

[slate wraith]

you guys amazing

for real

[native cloak]

Lol

[fast gull]

you are amazing :)

enjoy the game!

[slate wraith]

tysm

[native cloak]

I enjoy the game by making it pain 🙂

[fast gull]

i enjoy it by screaming and see al my friends die in the most horrndus situations

and i love clipping that xD

[native cloak]

I tried 100x spawns early today... never again. There were 48 giants by 2 PM and my game was running on a smooth 7 fps

[fast gull]

quality gameplay

[native cloak]

25x is the limit

[fast gull]

It seems weird to me that the game runs so slow, seems like it renders everything when it shouldn't

[slate wraith]

There's one more question I'd like to ask now, but I'll ask later for your time

[fast gull]

@slate wraithDont worry, ask what you need

[native cloak]

Ya that's weird, the game can't even handle 231 giants?

[fast gull]

it should to be fair

its not like they have a lot of polys or a ultra complex IA

[native cloak]

Sometimes I wonder why this game could be so laggy

[fast gull]

because it renders everything

games usually render what is near to you and only if you see it

[native cloak]

I wonder if it's possible to make a mod that does that

[slate wraith]

What time is in your country guys

[native cloak]

Like 7 AM

And I need to sleep

[slate wraith]

12 o'clock at night

[fast gull]

this is what games usually do

I mean the game kinda does that but not that good

[native cloak]

Wish it did

[fast gull]

4pm

[slate wraith]

I was sorry because I thought you guys were answering me even though it was late.

[fast gull]

Cooljs needs to rest and im in a work meeting so i cant be that focused on this

[native cloak]

@fast gull I actually challenge you to beat my solo quota using my ghost MonstersPlus profile with my LCV settings

[fast gull]

u sure?

[native cloak]

Ye

[fast gull]

i have 300 hours in the game

and my longest run was 44 days

[native cloak]

I wanna see if you can beat my first (full solo) attempt on your first attempt

[fast gull]

wait

800 was your first quota?

[native cloak]

No?

880 was my PB

[fast gull]

aaaaaaaa

then what is the record

im not sure

[fast gull]

I mean the one you want me to try

[native cloak]

Just same settings I had set

On the folder copy (since that has the ghost MonstersPlus)

[fast gull]

yea

but i mean

what is the goal

[native cloak]

Oh

[fast gull]

like 500 quota?

[native cloak]

Just get a higher quota than 882

[fast gull]

wait

you want me to beat your personal best on my first attempt? xD

thats insane

[native cloak]

Yes

[fast gull]

im not even that good i just play vanilla

ironic, I made mods and play vanilla

[native cloak]

That was my first full solo attempt. I mean I tried a couple solo runs but I never pushed them

[fast gull]

ohh I understand

[native cloak]

So you could probably beat my quota. Easiest tip would be just go March the entire time and leave before Giants spawn

[fast gull]

nahh

titan

[native cloak]

You can try

Titan's spawns are so bad at 10x that I profit more off of doing March runs

And March doesn't have Ghost Girl

[fast gull]

ghost girl is easy to avoid

just never look at her

[native cloak]

Not when spawns are 10x

It is bad

[fast gull]

I tell you, doesnt matter ghost girls, giants, dogs...

my problem is always the centripede

[native cloak]

Solo makes that easier

And 10x spawns has trained me to look up and spam scan more

[fast gull]

Im missing my custom sounds

no more markiplier hoarding arround

[native cloak]

You have Markiplier hoarder bugs?

[fast gull]

I have a lot

[native cloak]

I mean you can add your custom sound mods to the modpack

[fast gull]

i have multiple types of enemies so maybe one hoarder is markiplier, other is normal...

and that will almost every enemy

[native cloak]

It doesn't change anything and shouldn't break the modpack

[fast gull]

nah its just funny to hear someone die to a nokia for example

[native cloak]

Send me that mod

[fast gull]

aahaahah

Its local, Its not on the thunderstore

[native cloak]

Oh

Sadge

[fast gull]

not sure if I can upload it as there is jester's song that might have copyright

[native cloak]

Lol

[fast gull]

wait, freebird has copyright

and people upload it

[native cloak]

Well either way, feel free to replace any custom sound mods in the modpack. I do not think those will break MonstersPlus

[fast gull]

if some sounds break with custom sounds im gonna be mad

[native cloak]

They won't break but might become choppy in game due to the 200 enemies

[fast gull]

alright

so anything to take into consideration? I always play vanilla

[native cloak]

Get in the building, grab as much as you can, and launch the ship before 8 spiders spawn

[fast gull]

so health, stamina, items... is that stuff the same?

[native cloak]

And use the enemies command

[native cloak]

Yes

There are 2 new items in the shop that could be useful. I personally suggest getting the remote radar but it has very small battery time

[fast gull]

Oh, about your config

You might wanna check out hydraulics power

[native cloak]

Hydraulics power?

[fast gull]

yea

[native cloak]

What's that?

[fast gull]

maybe door hydraulic power

[native cloak]

Oh

That

[fast gull]

okay I renamed it

[native cloak]

I have that set to 50

[fast gull]

oh I see

this is higher than the usual

[native cloak]

Ya

It helps with the 20 dogs that spawn

[fast gull]

yea thats what I though

[native cloak]

Also March flooded is not bad at all, you just lose access to 2 fire exits

[fast gull]

you have the weather chances low tho

that should not be a problem

[native cloak]

Ya but it still happens sometimes

And that's basically everything I learned

Stun grenades are probably insanely broken for this but I never used any

[devout girder]

Why are forestgiant still born outside

[native cloak]

It's a bug

[fast gull]

Yea I am fixing it rn

Dont worry it should be fixed in today's patch

[native cloak]

It won't be for me due to my special broken modpack but ya

Lol

[fast gull]

I meean, but less giants should spawn

[native cloak]

Oh yaaaaa

True

[fast gull]

I dont think you can change the probability in MonstersPlus right?

[native cloak]

That's actually huge

[native cloak]

Nope

But it would be waaaaay lower than 20 spawning

[fast gull]

Wait i noticed something funny

I think spawn chances work correctly

except the giant, is for some reason ignoring the value

[devout girder]

I'm a Chinese and this bug puzzled me for a long time, so I spent a lot of time looking for this forum👀

https://tenor.com/view/panda-angry-mad-tantrum-cute-gif-15745177

[fast gull]

So look, in march the giant is not even detected to spawn

[fast gull]

Dont worry, glad you found it

[native cloak]

Oh?

Weird

[fast gull]

This change may require more work that I anticipated

@devout girder Do you mind checking real quick if other enemies spawn correctly with their probabilities?

[devout girder]

Eyeless dogs seem to have this bug too

[native cloak]

Pretty sure any outside mob

[fast gull]

omg I just noticed

[native cloak]

I had this problem too

[fast gull]

no outside enemy is detected

fuvk

[devout girder]

What should I do. I don't seem to see any other problems

[fast gull]

Dont worry

This is all the info I needed

I will notify as soon as the fix is ready

[native cloak]

Do you think if MonstersPlus updated, my ghost copy would break?

[fast gull]

🤦 I know why they are not working

[fast gull]

You can just enable monsters plus and it will take the same effect

other thing is the update itself breaks the compatibility

[native cloak]

Lol, easy fix though right? (Me knowing nothing about coding)

[native cloak]

What?

[native cloak]

I would if I wasn't scared

[fast gull]

yea it should

[fast gull]

If the monstersPlus updates and something they add is not competible

[native cloak]

Oh compatible with LCV?

[fast gull]

yea

[native cloak]

I could also just not update it

[fast gull]

@devout girderIssue is already fixed, I will publish the changes today so in about one-two hours you can play with the version without bugs

[fast gull]

thats right too

[native cloak]

Just until you get your version up it'll hold

[fast gull]

wdym

[fast gull]

Oh also im experimenting with a new tool I developed to asist me injecting code into the game so maybe more things can be added

[native cloak]

MonstersPlus will work for now until you get your starting spawns set up and working

[fast gull]

Oh right, sorry I forgot about that xD

[native cloak]

What kind of things?

[native cloak]

Lol

[fast gull]

Well until now some modifications required me to see the source code of the game in IL (is an intermediate language before binary) to modify it and that is just painful and can cause a lot of compatibility issues but this tool lets me inject code without even needed to understand the IL

so I can just change most of the behavior of the game faster

[native cloak]

Oh

Well anyways I think I am finally off to bed, it is now 8 AM. If you need anything just ping me and I'll see it when I wake up probably at 4PM since I'm half nocturnal

[fast gull]

Dont worry, you should rest a bit lol

[fast gull]

@here New update

1.8.1

Fixed

• Fixed soft crash when a planet did not have weathers
• Fixed outside enemy spawn probabilities not applying

[ruby flicker]

can we get a option to select the scrap rarity

and what scrao can and can't spawn

[slate wraith]

How do I save items on my ship if everyone is dead?

[native cloak]

Let's go

[native cloak]

This is the one I use https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Kirpichyov/SaveShipItemsOnDeath/

It saves all of your scrap but makes them sell for less

Default value is set to 50% but you can change it in the config

[native cloak]

@fast gull Weather is not synced between players btw

[slate wraith]

If i set value to 100% its all can save?

[native cloak]

ya

[fast gull]

hmm, can you share a config screenshot of your configs?

[slate wraith]

If I set it to 50%, will only 50% of random items be saved?

[fast gull]

afaik it saves all but lowers the price by half

[native cloak]

same settings as the one from last night

[fast gull]

The only modification was to avoid a soft crash, kinda weird that broke synchronization xD

[native cloak]

lol

[slate wraith]

I want to save all set value to 0%?

[native cloak]

0% would make all of your scrap worth 1

100% would not change spawns

[ruby flicker]

i added even more mods

[fast gull]

are there even more mods to be added?

[native cloak]

Also, I saw an enemy spawn out of an already opened vent

[fast gull]

that might be due to monsters plus

[native cloak]

I thought it was impossible to spawn stuff out of already opened vents

[fast gull]

@native cloakDo you have any profile with just LCV to check what is causing the synchronization issues?

[native cloak]

I have one that only has LCV and enemy scanner

[fast gull]

I think the issue is more with when they spawn rather than how many

[native cloak]

Ooooh

This one should work

[fast gull]

Do you mind helping me with the weather issue?

[native cloak]

ya

[fast gull]

As the mod does not sync on LAN

[fast gull]

Thank you very much!

[native cloak]

add me on steam

[fast gull]

However I would need you to enable your console and change the mod version to a debug one

[fast gull]

what was your friend code?

[native cloak]

319877806

[native cloak]

Ight

: )

console is now on

[fast gull]

This is the debug version

[native cloak]

Modpack only has LCV and ScanForEnemies

[fast gull]

You need to replace the original file with this

[fast gull]

that's perfect

[native cloak]

ight

[fast gull]

if you need help locating the original file tell me

[native cloak]

I found it

do you want me to host?

[fast gull]

yea

[native cloak]

k

same settings I ran before right?

[fast gull]

in the console will appear red lines about weather

[fast gull]

Yes

[native cloak]

k, 1 sec

[fast gull]

I would need to test with the weather override in both enabled and disabled mode

@native cloak tell me whenever you are ready

[native cloak]

Ya, sorry had to copy setting on a new save

[fast gull]

no worries

[fast gull]

let me join and check my values

[native cloak]

I invited

[fast gull]

oh wait

I forgot to show the seed

[native cloak]

oh lol

[fast gull]

okay that is weird

[native cloak]

ya

[fast gull]

okay let me check something else

[native cloak]

k

[fast gull]

did you have set 50% to all chances?

no right?

[native cloak]

no

[fast gull]

well I found the issue xD

let me check one more thing

[native cloak]

I think I know why

It isn't setting that for other people that join

[fast gull]

yep, is that

but the config is synchronized

if that broke, everything should be broken

and it isnt

do you mind enabling the "hide weather" config option?

maybe everything is broken but no one noticed yet

[native cloak]

I mean spawns are decided by the game so it didn't affect that

[native cloak]

oh ya

1 sec

[fast gull]

alright let me join and check

you should not be able to see the weather in the terminal

[native cloak]

Yep

They all say unknown

[fast gull]

well that works

hmmm

okay I need to enable debug for the API

dont worry you dont need to

[native cloak]

k

[fast gull]

gimme 1 min

[native cloak]

k

I'll keep the lobby open, I'm going to use the bathroom real quick

[fast gull]

okay

[ruby flicker]

do modded moons not get the weather

[fast gull]

they should yes

but for a more reliable mode I suggest you set the weather override

[ruby flicker]

there we go

[fast gull]

hmm

is that what you wanted to do? xD

[ruby flicker]

yes

[fast gull]

lmao

I dont even think custom moons can implement the DustClouds weather

[ruby flicker]

so what does dustcloud even do

[fast gull]

like foggy but les fog

but the planet must have the "behavior" or nothing will happen

[ruby flicker]

was there a config to allow planets to have more then 1 weather?

[fast gull]

at the same time?

[ruby flicker]

ye

[native cloak]

imagine mods that add custom weather

[fast gull]

nop, that is not possible

however a mod can implement a "custom weather" that is multiple weathers at the same time

[ruby flicker]

cheating the system

[fast gull]

if they take the effort to implement it correctly, it will show up in the configuration

seems like the weather variables decided that they wont sync

[ruby flicker]

i refined and updated alot of mods

it went from 9 to 4

[fast gull]

@native cloak I will need you to join my lobby

[native cloak]

k

That's a lot of bad weather

[fast gull]

yea my friends complained about the same yesterday

xD

[native cloak]

lol

I'm used to worse settings anyways

[fast gull]

so the values are sent to the clients

so why are they not registering now

okay can you host real quick?

[ruby flicker]

hahaha oh lord

[native cloak]

ya

[ruby flicker]

seems modded enemys show up here too

what is red pill btw

[fast gull]

Yea, if mods implement their enemies corretly they will show up

[native cloak]

My LCV disappeared?

[fast gull]

lol

I never saw that before

Ohh it might be due to the debug version

[native cloak]

It'll probably be fine

[fast gull]

that might break some things

[ruby flicker]

theres a debug mode?

[native cloak]

I mean that is a lot of red

[fast gull]

is a version of the mod that I build diferently

[fast gull]

dont worry about that

however you might need to restart the game

[native cloak]

nope

I just checked the console, everything set correctly

[fast gull]

give me 2 min, I need to make a call

[native cloak]

k

[ruby flicker]

liquid laberinth likes to make its splash screen a warning instead of a normal log

funny

[native cloak]

I can't tell if that's intentional or if it's asking for help

[ruby flicker]

it also the mod that adds a randomly spawning employee head

infact the mod allows you to pick of a recent head so if your friend dies to the girl it says Friend's head

replace friends with there username

[fast gull]

Okay this should be the last test to do

I have a slighly idea of why is broken

[native cloak]

k

[fast gull]

okay now it synchronized?

what

I didnt change anything

[native cloak]

huh?

[ruby flicker]

only thing worse then a bug is the bug happening randomly

[fast gull]

do you mind restarting the lobby?

[ruby flicker]

dust cloud is experimentations weather

[fast gull]

the kind of bug that only appears when you are not watching it

the schrödingers bug

@native cloakdo you mind restarting the lobby without the hidden weather?

[native cloak]

ya

[ruby flicker]

is it possible to add a smaller varaible changer mid game cuz some things will update when the ship launches

[native cloak]

Oh nice, it's back

[fast gull]

wdym?

now it is syncing

[native cloak]

nice

Do the chances round up?

[fast gull]

they always round down

[ruby flicker]

like changing weather varaibles ingame

mid*

[native cloak]

nice

[fast gull]

Okay i will test with the release version

if somehow that works

without any changes

Ill be mad

[fast gull]

the problem is that due to how the game is programmed, changing values mid game is not all that possible

[native cloak]

lol

[fast gull]

I mean, to be able to have different settings for each save file it was already hel

[native cloak]

do you want me to change or no?

[fast gull]

now it is not syncing

im gonna become the joker

[ruby flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[fast gull]

oh

I understand what is the issue now+

[native cloak]

Well that's good

[fast gull]

Soo

the configurations for weather and monsters are dynamically generated

problem is

they are generated when you open the menu

if you never opened the menu, they will never be created

thus never synching

[native cloak]

oh

[fast gull]

okay should be an easy fix

[native cloak]

well that's good

[ruby flicker]

what is opening the menu the bars like level generate

[fast gull]

yea, opening the menu is when you click host and all the settings become visible

@native cloak Do you mind checking real quick if this is correct?

[native cloak]

right

1 sec

sorry

[fast gull]

no worries

you are already helping a lot!

[native cloak]

Doing 2 things at once lol

[fast gull]

Alright everything should be okay for now

at the exception of decimals

I need to make numbers not depend on the language of the computer running the game

buff updating this will break configurations for non-english speakers

Now it works

:D

[native cloak]

Ok, I'm fully back, no longer multitasking

[native cloak]

pog

[fast gull]

Dont worry

everything should be fixed

[native cloak]

Nice

Update tonight?

[fast gull]

I had to update also Configurable company

So both of the mods will update but not tonight but after the release version copiles

[native cloak]

Nice

[fast gull]

I hope making no more tests does not break anything lol

[native cloak]

I'm not going to be playing with anyone else tonight anyways so I'm not worried about updates lol

[fast gull]

if you do you can just tell them to open the menu before joining you

that is a workaround until the update comes

[native cloak]

ight

Let me know if you need help with anything else, I'll be up for a few more hours since I'm half nocturnal

[ruby flicker]

so an update is coming

[fast gull]

@ruby flickerYea we fixed the bug about weather not syncing

But until the mod is updated, a workaround is to ask your friends to open the panel with the configs and then enter your game

[ruby flicker]

my friends aint online rn😭

[native cloak]

What all can we expect for the next patch?

[fast gull]

wdym

[native cloak]

What are you fixing/adding for the next update

obviously weather fix

but is there anything else?

[ruby flicker]

did you awnser about the scrap selector varabiles

[fast gull]

for this one no

But if you want to know when to expect something added, if for example a version is 1.X.0

it means something new is added

if it is 1.X.1

[native cloak]

oh

[fast gull]

or ends with another number that is not a 0

i means its to fix things and maybe do some balancing

[native cloak]

That makes sense

[fast gull]

I though of that but im not sure If I would like to add individual scrap rarities and chances, not because of the work but because the options would be very cluttered with no big benefit

Although some other settings for scraps would be nice

[fast gull]

So this update will just be fixing this issue

and later ones I will add more settings

But I think all the process is kinda slowed down due to the Event API being under development too

[native cloak]

oh ya, true

[fast gull]

but dont worry the event api will make worth the wait

[ruby flicker]

not any of that just a selector of what scrap you want to spawn or not and if only 1 scrap item then the left overs will be that

[fast gull]

so like lock some scraps from spawning

[ruby flicker]

ye

and another scrap item will take the place of the vacent ones

so if only gold bar active only gold bars will spawn

[fast gull]

Pretty funny to make only fart cushions spawn with x4 price

[native cloak]

I would end up dying to a dog with my 10x spawns

[fast gull]

that's the neat part

[ruby flicker]

would it be hard to add something like it i think if you do it should be in a seperate tab like "Scrap Settings"

so i can disable tattered metal sheets have fun

[native cloak]

These 2 mods are hilarious in 10x spawns. You don't understand how often I hear a distant fart sound

[fast gull]

The mod already supports multiple configuration pages although I prefer to put everthing in the same page so other mods can have their own page

[fast gull]

Oh about that

yesterday I was testing the event api with some friends

and after evertyhing worked correctly we wanted to play some time

[ruby flicker]

how do i change pages

[fast gull]

and we went to try your mods

it was funny as heck

[ruby flicker]

mine?

[native cloak]

Ik

[fast gull]

there should be two arrows

[native cloak]

same settings and broken MonstersPlus too?

[ruby flicker]

for me it just says lethal company varaibles thats it

[fast gull]

Cooljs ones, he asked to play with them and I though it could be funny

[fast gull]

yea

except it wasn't broken

it didnt work

[native cloak]

oh, so no early spawns?

[fast gull]

but was fine we had other issues

[native cloak]

lol

[fast gull]

as none of us even knew what were the mods

also the push mod is soo busted

i remember dying just by my friend pushing me

[native cloak]

The extra monsters probably got you

[native cloak]

lol

[fast gull]

oh and the crawler with tomas the train music

dying while laughting

[native cloak]

Ik

It is so funny when you step into the building and just hear that get closer

[fast gull]

it was an experience in all senses

[native cloak]

Imma actually try re-enabling MonstersPlus real quick. In theory, it shouldn't break anything

[native cloak]

It is terrifying and so much fun at the same time

also if you used any walkies, now those are hilarious

You can hear sounds come through the walkies

For example, you can hear someone dying to Freddy if they have there walkie on

[fast gull]

I remember hearing freddy killing my friends in "vanilla"

[native cloak]

lol

[fast gull]

but yea, footsteps and sounds from the walkies, its pretty funny

[native cloak]

"vanilla"

[fast gull]

yea, sometimes we try some simple mods as the freddy or monster reskins

[native cloak]

Did you guys make it to Titan?

[fast gull]

nope

we spend all the money in walkies and lanterns

and that new hacking tool and other stuff

[native cloak]

Titan ups the funny moments by like 10x

[fast gull]

lol

[fast gull]

I didnt even remember that we could lock doors

[native cloak]

locking doors is only way to survive

There is no way you are killing anything with a shovel in 10x spawns

[fast gull]

i mean

most of the monsters we encountered were immportal

the slimes, rolling giant...

and crawlers

lots and lots of crawlers

[native cloak]

Ya, Crawlers and Spiders spawn a ton of the free moons

They spawn less on Titan

I normally just try locking as many enemies in rooms as I can so I have less enemies to worry about

Most the time it doesn't really help

You can also lock your friends in rooms with is kind of funny

[fast gull]

Well I didn't know that I could do that

now no one is safe

[native cloak]

and keys are infinite

[fast gull]

wait

what

[native cloak]

ya

[fast gull]

I swear I used one once and it dissapeared

[native cloak]

I have a mod for it

[fast gull]

I guess but still I saw it dissapear

maybe I just got schizo

[native cloak]

lol

I will also take any mod suggestions but I'm pretty sure the modpack right now is a good balance

Also I just re-enabled MonstersPlus and it fixed my modpack

Here's an update code
018d7e06-95a9-264c-1fd5-5dd2b42209ec

This version also changes the Rolling Giants AI

It now Should Only move or move more when you are looking at it

So it's like an inverse coilhead

[fast gull]

Yesterday we saw it moving when he wanted

im not sure how that works

[native cloak]

Ya, That's why I changed the AI to InverseCoilhead in the config

So it's less confusing how the AI works

wait nvm

I lied

I set it wrong in the config so it defaulted

It defaulted again

I think it may be having some compatibility issues with LCV

But I will look into this

[fast gull]

what is defaulting?

[native cloak]

Rolling Giant Config

[fast gull]

Is that an in-game config?

[native cloak]

no

It is probably just a bug with Rolling Giants

I will make sure though

[fast gull]

I mean, if it has nothing to do with the in game menu then none of my mods should interfere with it

but kinda weird that i does not update

check if you need to write it all caps or something