Lethal Level Loader [Custom Content Loading API]

[unique geode]

😔

[whole mortar]

[hexed mesa]

[unique geode]

RBM does have a lot of rpcs in it's code and I see rpc's that relate to the old netcode patcher so yeah it needs updated

This right here is netcode patcher rpcs

[wet vortex]

not surprising

[whole mortar]

Oh ye that'd probably mess with the scene change

[wet vortex]

i knew it would need some kind of update

[unique geode]

Ye it has a lot of Netcode Patcher rpcs

so dopa will need to recomp the dll and update it to the new netcode patcher

[unique geode]

Wanted to give time for things to cool down before replying after I realized the message you responded to but it wasn’t meant to come across that way. I just genuinely felt bad when I saw some devs were growing impatient and panicking thinking that LLL might not update and stuff. I knew I wasn’t responsible for it but regardless I still felt bad cus I knew devs really wanted to be able to update their stuff and as each day went by I saw more panic and more devs growing impatient and I am really glad that pacoito was able to work out a solution and upload his fork for everyone

[whole mortar]

Thy ship lever be pullable

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

(Seemed fine with other mods compatibility-wise but do let me know if the lever starts acting up)

@random coral SBTweaks patch is not really needed anymore, though keeping it enabled causes no issues (as far as I can tell)

[oak drum]

oh awesome

I knew i wasn't going crazy in his thread when i saw it happen but i didnt clip it

[manic belfry]

ok so i feel like RandomMoonFX is now dead 💀

[whole mortar]

!

I forgor to test with it

Uhhhhhh it's prooooobably fine

[manic belfry]

If the SBT option was true then the lever will need to be pulled 2 times instead of 1

which is not expected if that was not obvious

[whole mortar]

I switched LLL's patch to a transpiler, so you could override it if necessary (by just Postfixing StartMatchLever.Update())

[random coral]

if the base LLL issue is totally fixed then it should just be vanilla and work fine right? I think my patch only caused issues because I had to spam update the lever status because LLL keeps overwriting it. idk why the issue was there in the first place tho

[manic belfry]

o boy

[manic belfry]

no the issue is not there in vanilla

Ill need to test first and if it's really not working as expected ill dm you @whole mortar so i can patch the thing just right lmao

well you know what let me test rq rn

wait, where's the update?

ah ok gale processing

[whole mortar]

All I did was add an extra condition in here instead of doin a Prefix/Postfix from LLL's side

Turning it into

    private void Update()
    {
        if (this.updateInterval > 0f)
        {
            this.updateInterval -= Time.deltaTime;
            return;
        }
        this.updateInterval = 2f;
        if (this.leverHasBeenPulled)
        {
            this.triggerScript.hoverTip = "Start ship : [LMB]";
            return;
        }
        if (!base.IsServer && !GameNetworkManager.Instance.gameHasStarted)
        {
            this.triggerScript.interactable = false;
            return;
        }
        if (CheckLever(this.triggerScript))
        {
            return;
        }
        if (this.playersManager.connectedPlayersAmount + 1 <= 1 && !this.singlePlayerEnabled)
        {
            this.triggerScript.hoverTip = "[ At least two players needed to start! ]";
            return;
        }
        if (GameNetworkManager.Instance.gameHasStarted)
        {
            this.triggerScript.hoverTip = "Land ship : [LMB]";
            return;
        }
        this.triggerScript.hoverTip = "Start game : [LMB]";
    }

CheckLever()'s just

        private static bool CheckLever(InteractTrigger trigger)
        {
            trigger.interactable = NetworkBundleManager.AllowedToLoadLevel;
            if (!trigger.interactable)
            {
                trigger.disabledHoverTip = disabledText;
                return false;
            }
            return true;
        }

[whole mortar]

Also it appears to work

[manic belfry]

wait how did you test this fast

let me download it

[tall kindle]

he has the local build

so

i assume he can test it fast

[whole mortar]

I have it in my testing profile

[manic belfry]

shit

ok one moment

[whole mortar]

Lmao I didn't know it routed to company automatically, but that does make sense

I thought it randomly picked Gordion, but quota did just end 💀

[manic belfry]

ok so yeah it just works

And it works better than before 😳

[whole mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[manic belfry]

So the thing SBT did was really weird

[whole mortar]

LLL was handling it a bit strangely to be fair

Or uhhh

It needed more than one patch due to LLL having both a Prefix and Postfix for the ship lever

[past reef]

This GI option fixes this issue. Probably the game thinks the lever is in a pre-game state?

[whole mortar]

Nah that wasn't it

But also that setting didn't work properly iirc

[manic belfry]

tbf im just happy that my mod (seems) to still work fine without me doing anything lol
I was afraid i needed to update this https://github.com/ZigzagAwaka/RandomMoonFX/blob/main/RandomMoonFX/Patches.cs#L45 which is not hard but i dont want to touch that
Btw ill test if the Hotreload thing is effectively not needed anymore tonight, so ill let you know

[whole mortar]

HotreloadFix does only just affect bundles after a lobby reload, I dunno how it made RandomMoonFX work 💀

[past reef]

i had no problems with this option enable

[manic belfry]

idk 🗿
In some peoples pack it was not needed but in my pack it was

[manic belfry]

i had this option enabled for so long now but i still had issues because of hotreload being needed in some cases, or because of SBT

[tall kindle]

i made hotreload patch so lemme see if i remember

there were issues with leaving and rejoining (or even just joining) lobbies, specifically on custom moons

where LLL would, instead of initiating a load for the bundles, would try to UNLOAD bundles

so it was basically unloading all bundles despite it needing to load a custom moon's bundles

all HotReloadFix does is check when you enter the lobby what moon you gotta load

[whole mortar]

Ye that's fixed

Now the bundle's just kept loaded unless you open a save that's routed to a different moon

It was in this: https://github.com/pacoito123/LC_LethalLevelLoader/commit/5d16aa15d14ced0d553e39fc21a93acac163cb5a

[manic belfry]

ok ill let you know

[past reef]

Stack trace:
UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject:OnTransformParentChanged()
UnityEngine.Transform:SetParent(Transform, Transform, Boolean)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject:TrySetParent(NetworkObject, Boolean)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject:TryRemoveParentCachedWorldPositionStays()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSpawnManager:OnDespawnObject(NetworkObject, Boolean)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSpawnManager:DespawnObject(NetworkObject, Boolean)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject:DMD<Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject::Despawn>(NetworkObject, Boolean)
Unity.Netcode.DefaultSceneManagerHandler:MoveObjectsFromSceneToDontDestroyOnLoad(NetworkManager&, Scene)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager:UnloadScene(Scene)
<unloadSceneForAllPlayers>d__279:MoveNext()
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)```  Any problems with this error?

[manic belfry]

ok so after a big gaming session with friends, it seems that the lever was 100% not causing issue + it was fixed
And i can confirm that the hotreload patch is 100% not needed anymore besides having prior issues with my pack which is pretty good

you did an amaazing job paco thanksssss😊

[whole mortar]

[whole mortar]

Also this is probably from things despawning after leaving the game or somethin, likely ignorable

[tall kindle]

Paco you're fired

[whole mortar]

sadcat

[tall kindle]

Wheres LLLGamma

[quiet stream]

where's my BiodiversityDelta paco

cmon

[manic belfry]

LLLL first please

[tall kindle]

LethalLevelLoaderLatest that stops being latest after the main one updates would be fun

[fast geyser]

Now we just need SoundAPIitolib

[rain garnet]

I think im dumb
How can i setup so an interior has X weight on every moons ? i tried putting "All:100" but nop

[zealous ether]

Vanilla:X, Custom:X

[rain garnet]

in tag i guess

[zealous ether]

ye

[rain garnet]

ok thanks

[oblique owl]

hi, sorry if this has been asked a billion times, but just wanted to make sure im up to speed. if i want to play on v73, i assume i have to use a forked version thats up to date? and if thats the case, is that on thunderstore/r2 and whats the name of it?

[oblique owl]

is it this fella here?

[orchid lintel]

yes

[oblique owl]

thank you 🙏

[lost pewter]

if i set an interior's injection list like this "Vanilla:0, March:100" would that interior still spawn on march? would the "vanilla:0" override the "March:100" or vice versa?

[wet vortex]

The injection is additive so you will still get 100 on march

[lost pewter]

thank you!

[whole mortar]

It's not additive, pretty sure it just grabs the largest number

[wet vortex]

whenever batby said this i assumed it was additive is it really just grabbing biggest number

[maiden valley]

No

[maiden valley]

This should make every moon except march lack the interior

Im assuming anyways

But no its not additive

Unless I'm thinking of a separate moon override option for interiors

[whole mortar]

Interiors with Custom:15 don't have a weight of 15 on every moon

It only has a weight of 15 if there's no higher value specified (like a specific moon name)

[maiden valley]

Yes but their list only has two values

vanilla and march

[whole mortar]

Oh yeah if it's just those two then yeah

Only weight of 100 on March

Vanilla:0 doesn't need to be specified, it do be implied

[lost pewter]

thank you everyone for helping me understand the values!

[wet vortex]

how does a moon being locked work

like what is the condition for unlocking it

does it need to be unlocked by another mod

[whole mortar]

Ye pretty much

[wet vortex]

can i do it with CustomStoryLogs without needing another dll?

[whole mortar]

CustomStoryLogs doesn't have moon lock/unlocking stuff

Separate dll is needed

[wet vortex]

dammit

do you know any mod that can do it without having to make a dll myself

[whole mortar]

Technically JLL's Wesley stuff but it's not exactly convenient to use for like a modpack

Other than that I don't think there is one

[quiet stream]

if lunar config allows for changing route words you could always do that and scatted logs from CustomStoryLogs that reveal the route words for each unlockable moon?... maybe

[manic belfry]

Or play with random moons no locking here

[clever bear]

Or play with no moons no more moons

[whole mortar]

Smol update

[whole mortar]

I blundered, forgor to test without DawnLib, I thought I'd handled soft dependency correctly but it might be getting mad due to an extension method

On it though

[whole mortar]

Fix pushed

Do NOT attempt extension methods for soft compatibilities at home

[tall kindle]

LLL depends on DawnLib now, got it, will spread the word

[whole mortar]

💀

[steady ingot]

Lmao

[whole mortar]

[steady ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/por-nuv-gif-2603817387787382387

[soft fiber]

so DL moons will now appear in LLL lists? 😮 (at least in the updated fork)

[whole mortar]

It's more of it'll actually let you land on them 💀

[soft fiber]

oh.. lmao

[whole mortar]

Previously it errored out when selecting a dungeon, for there was no ExtendedLevel being made for DawnLib moons

It is no longer the case

[soft fiber]

ok, so DL moons still wont be registered within LLL.. ok..

[whole mortar]

Oh you mean config-wise?

[soft fiber]

erm, let me check what i mean because ive been trying to do other things to get compatibility with both DL and LLL at the same time, so i forgot what i used to do.

[whole mortar]

Oh wait if you mean finding DawnLib moons in PatchedContent.ExtendedLevels then yeah, they'll show up there

[soft fiber]

yes
LethalLevelLoader.PatchedContent.ExtendedLevels

ah ok, thats good.. for now.

[steady ingot]

Bwaaa

[errant lotus]

is this still needed?

[tall kindle]

For rebalanced moons yws

Yes*

[errant lotus]

welp :,]
this is happening on my modpack now

aaand without Autoscroll now it's looking for BiggerShip :,]

[tall kindle]

WR soft depends on autoscroll what?

This seems like an mrov issue, why is WR also soft depending on biggership

The messages by bepinex are pretty vague so I could be reading it wrong but i think mrov needs to check his soft dependencies/dependencies

[errant lotus]

@slim wind sorry for pinging :,]

[tall kindle]

:p

Don't soft depend on a mod unless you need access to it during plugins awake mrov

I also can't check the mod code rn since I'm on phone and about to head out

[tall kindle]

Ohhh wait I see now

I was reading it wrong, I get it now

Okay yeah I think paco mistakenly made dawnlib a soft dependency, he needs to get rid of that soft dependency and it should be fine I think

Okay mrov also made a mistake I think too

I dont think mrovlib needs an LLL soft dependency

I dont see any code that needs to be ran on plugin awake

[slim wind]

umm what's up

[slim wind]

oh I'd have to rebuild mrovlib the same way I did registry methink

[tall kindle]

Unsure what you mean by that but as long as you can get rid of the soft dependency attribute and it runs then you're fine

[slim wind]

dawnlib soft-depends on Formatter, which depends on mrovlib

[tall kindle]

And it should be fine, I don't see any reason for having that there

[slim wind]

and that might be it, question is: why did it pop up now

[tall kindle]

I dont know if I do soft depend on formatter though?

Ye I dont

It popped up now because LLL soft depends on dawnlib

Which it doesn't need to but u also don't need to soft depend on LLL in mrovlib

[slim wind]

so it should be gone in the next release?

[tall kindle]

Of LLL? Hopefully if I didn't misread the cide

Code*

[slim wind]

I'll fix that on my side when I'm back home, is there anything else to it?

[tall kindle]

Nah

[slim wind]

alrighty

[tall kindle]

Just make sure you're able to get rid of that soft dependency without mistake is all

[slim wind]

okie

[tall kindle]

Do you want me to explain why it breaks or u already know

[slim wind]

yeah, I'm pretty sure I get it

[deft crater]

Looks like this for me :/

[unique geode]

Guess I’m not updating LLLU today

I shall remain on 1.5.1 for now

[whole mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[whole mortar]

Noted

[acoustic sonnet]

when I loaded it bepinex seemed to give up at the start and load vanilla 😭

NOTHING in the log

[whole mortar]

If you're starting from a shortcut you need to swap it to --doorstop-target-assembly instead of --doorstop-target

Due to the new BepInEx version

[acoustic sonnet]

nope

starting from gale

[slim wind]

this is fixed in mrovlib v0.3.7

[errant lotus]

gotcha!

[whole mortar]

Well pretty much the only reason it'd start vanilla is if it can't run the executable with the right parameters

[acoustic sonnet]

well not bepinex open it just doesnt load any mods

[whole mortar]

Thonk

[whole mortar]

Can you send log still mayhaps

[acoustic sonnet]

this is the log

thats it

[whole mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[acoustic sonnet]

a first I thought async was just purging the logs but no I disabled it

[whole mortar]

The soft dep is gone

[whole mortar]

What about Player.log/Player-prev.log

There be something else going on

[acoustic sonnet]

ok looks like the log was just buggin out

its fine now 💀

just cleared cache and reinstalled

[whole mortar]

Weird

[acoustic sonnet]

well fine besides the issues everyone else was having

[acoustic sonnet]

maybe me updating bepinex made it have a stroke lol

some bad luck

[tall kindle]

The basic idea of dependencies is so that bepinex can load things in an order, in a cyclic dependency it has no idea what to load first so it just shoots everyone dead, that's pretty much why I imagine

And noice

[whole mortar]

Ye makes sense

I'm guessing it's more relevant if I were to be patching a method from DawnLib or something in LLLU's Awake, so ye

[tall kindle]

Yeah I think so

[whole mortar]

Even then I could probably delay it and patch later

(If I needed to)

[tall kindle]

Yep

[umbral oracle]

Dunno where else to put this, but the most recent version of LLLU softlocks you when you try to land

Well that's just great. We'll send the code whenever Gale gets its shit together

[brisk schooner]

rip

[quiet stream]

read up

i think they're in the process of fixin it

[brisk schooner]

read a book

[quiet stream]

or already have fixed it?

[quiet stream]

give me a good one

[umbral oracle]

019a5fcd-536f-a083-e14d-46f88a083e31

[umbral oracle]

The War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells

[quiet stream]

is it better than the two movies

cuz both of them fucking sucked

or is it a different war of the worlds

[umbral oracle]

...Yes?

The original War of the Worlds solos any and all adaptations of it

[brisk schooner]

Prey, Michael Crichton

[umbral oracle]

Also what other movie, aside from the Amazon one

[brisk schooner]

its kinda dumb but I somehow have two copies of it so it must be good

[quiet stream]

there was an older adaptation that I watched really late at night w my family and it was sooo fucking bad

lemme see if i can find it

[umbral oracle]

George Pal's adaptation?

[quiet stream]

the tom cruise one

[umbral oracle]

Spielberg's is alright, but it literally just. does not follow the original The War of the Worlds narrative

George Pal's movie and Jeff Wayne's musical adaptations are more in line with the original novel than Spielberg and Amazon

[quiet stream]

that was Spielberg 💀

holy what was he cooking

[acoustic sonnet]

ik its not releated but makes me thing of the games, both really good but not releated

[umbral oracle]

It's not that bad,,,

[quiet stream]

idk man it hit a fucking nerve with me 😭

like I stayed up really late w my family watching that and it had the most unlikeable cast, the most boring nothing ending and the most mid art direction

[umbral oracle]

The brother going to fight the martians was fucking stupid but the rest of the movie was pretty grounded in reality

The ferry scene was especially cool

[quiet stream]

i legit went to my room and ranted about the movie for like an hour after that (at like 3am)

it was SDO FUCKING LONGGG

[quiet stream]

god yeah that part was so dumb

[acoustic sonnet]

that sounds like me after watching the newest bladerunner

[quiet stream]

was it that bad? never saw that one

[quiet stream]

its so weird cuz im usually never this dismissive of a product but holy fuck there's something about that movie 😭

[umbral oracle]

Do you know what the novel tripods look like

[quiet stream]

naur

[acoustic sonnet]

I found it boring as shit

[umbral oracle]

They're rlly cool

Practically endorsed by Wells himself

[quiet stream]

REPO

i like these designs a lot though

[umbral oracle]

Another tripod design came before Alvim Correa's by Warwick Goble, but Wells hated it so much that he wrote a paragraph in the novel venting his disdain over it

Let me see if I can find the excerpt

Here it is, lmao

"I recall particularly the illustration of one of the first pamphlets to give a consecutive account of the war. The artist had evidently made a hasty study of one of the fighting machines, and it was there that his knowledge ended. He presented them as tilted, stiff tripods without either flexibility or subtlety, and with an altogether misleading monotony of effect. The pamphlet containing these renderings had a considerable vogue, and I mention them here to warn the reader against the impression they may have created. They were no more like the Martians I saw in action than a Dutch doll is like a human being. To my mind, the pamphlet would have been much better without them."

[quiet stream]

yeah that design's a little too stiff

also we're uh

flooding the LLL thread

bugeyed

mb!!

[umbral oracle]

LLL is rotting, there's not much to talk about it anyways

[umbral oracle]

Bump I guess

[umbral oracle]

Just to say, ironically we instantly got reminded of The War of the Worlds when we saw R.E.P.O.'s semibots for the first time lol

[tall kindle]

Go to #general-chat

[quiet stream]

yeah let's not flood the thread

there's like, actual issues going on

[quiet stream]

you say as paco's actively working on fixing issues!!

[umbral oracle]

I forgor about LLLU Idk what I was thinkin'

[whole mortar]

[Error  : Unity Log] ArgumentOutOfRangeException: 'minValue' cannot be greater than maxValue.
Parameter name: minValue
Stack trace:
System.Random.Next (System.Int32 minValue, System.Int32 maxValue) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_001D)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::SpawnScrapInLevel>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::GeneratedFloorPostProcessing>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__133.DMD<RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__133::MoveNext>(RoundManager/<LoadNewLevelWait>d__133)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <c39a522eee05469b8171a6cfeb646c59>:IL_0026)

One of your scraps has gullible values

I know not which

[crisp galleon]

Paco please fix

Fix all our problems

[orchid lintel]

paco can my be greater than

[whole mortar]

[whole mortar]

I should mention this can also happen if a scrap has the same number for minValue and maxValue, since the upper end is exclusive

To have a constant value, maxValue would need to be set to minValue + 1

But yeah erroring out during that step (item spawning) is not ideal, hence why it stops you from landing

[topaz sparrow]

my friends keep getting this error when we load onto a moon. loading works fine in solo

modpack code if necessary: 019a6a69-2d2c-f2e1-a976-f1ddc6b9305b

just hoping to see if theres a fix to this. we had plans to play today

[whole mortar]

Thonk

[whole mortar]

Can you send the full log? There might be something else going on before that

[topaz sparrow]

let me get it from my friend rq

[whole mortar]

Ye

[topaz sparrow]

should be it here

[whole mortar]

I shall inspect

[past reef]

you don't need slimetamingfix since you have butteryfixes

[topaz sparrow]

oops okay

[whole mortar]

VeryLateCompany should also be replaced with LobbyControl, though I don't think it'd be that causing that specific error

[topaz sparrow]

noted

[topaz sparrow]

any update on this?

[whole mortar]

Something causing the round seed to not be set for clients for some reason, not sure

[topaz sparrow]

odd

[whole mortar]

Likely some mod incompatibility, but I know not what could be doin it

[whole mortar]

Somewhat experimental update, but it's been fine during testing

[open wind]

Is the dependency on the original LLL intended, or should it be disabled/uninstalled?

[crisp galleon]

I think it’s fine. Pretty sure LLLU overrides LLL stuff so they can be used together fine

[whole mortar]

Ye it's just set as a dependency to show it'll work with both installed

You can disable/uninstall it

[open wind]

Okie

I was wondering because I manually uninstalled the original LLL but then the LLLU update reinstalled it automatically

[willow epoch]

Was told you guys might want to know that latest update seems to break bigger lobbies

This update LethalLevelLoaderUpdated will be updated to: 1.5.6 breaks it

Works: 019a7e8f-f5ad-38bb-1c7c-a86066d470a6

Dont work: 019a7e79-b9fb-47cf-ba49-7ba73e33fd97 you HAVE to be more than 4 in lobby for it to break and wont land the ship

[river verge]

did you ever find a fix to this?

[whole mortar]

Do you happen to have a log of this? Preferably one from a client's

[willow epoch]

I do not no, i will get one later if i can when we play again

[leaden plinth]

v1.5.6 also breaks something in our profile. typing "moons" in terminal doesn't work. v1.5.5 works fine. I couldn't figure out what mod is in conflict with the v1.5.6.
our profile: 019a8d14-5e12-ed5f-13e8-d27eb0fc9bf0

Stack trace:
LethalLevelLoader.TerminalManager.RefreshExtendedLevelGroups () (at ./Patches/TerminalManager.cs:120)
System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke (System.Object obj, System.Reflection.BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] parameters, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_006A)
Rethrow as TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.
System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke (System.Object obj, System.Reflection.BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] parameters, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_0083)
System.Reflection.MethodBase.Invoke (System.Object obj, System.Object[] parameters) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_0000)
TerminalFormatter.Nodes.Moons.GetNodeText (TerminalNode node, Terminal terminal) (at ./Nodes/Moons.cs:70)
TerminalFormatter.TerminalPatches.LoadNewTerminalFormatterNode (Terminal __instance, TerminalNode node) (at ./TerminalPatches/ReplaceText.cs:59)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMD<Terminal::LoadNewNode>(Terminal,TerminalNode)
Terminal.OnSubmit () (at <83220f1fc337491eba19b3618ec61339>:IL_0104)
UnityEngine.Events.InvokableCall.Invoke () (at <c39a522eee05469b8171a6cfeb646c59>:IL_0010)
UnityEngine.Events.UnityEvent`1[T0].Invoke (T0 arg0) (at <c39a522eee05469b8171a6cfeb646c59>:IL_0049)```

TMPro.TMP_InputField.ReleaseSelection () (at <34a16a0b0f624a15b30cd8fbba9e4e1e>:IL_001B)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.DeactivateInputField (System.Boolean clearSelection) (at <34a16a0b0f624a15b30cd8fbba9e4e1e>:IL_00B0)
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[whole mortar]

Weird, do you happen to have the full log? I'm wondering if something broke before that

I didn't touch anything that would affect the terminal moons listing between v1.5.5 and v1.5.6

[leaden plinth]

The log is quite long - we do have a few mods installed.
The last stable version of the profile was on November 8th: 019a8e80-6089-b604-89bb-58ad67069ff0
Since then, several mods received updates. After updating all of them and downgrading LLL to 1.5.5 it's working again.
Log is with LLL v1.5.6.

[whole mortar]

Thonk

You have LLL 1.4.11, 1.5.4, and 1.5.6 in that log

[Warning:   BepInEx] Skipping [LethalLevelLoader 1.5.4] because a newer version exists (LethalLevelLoader 1.5.6)
[Warning:   BepInEx] Skipping [LethalLevelLoader 1.4.11] because a newer version exists (LethalLevelLoader 1.5.6)

Should get rid of 1.5.4 wherever it is, it might be causing the preloader to not run properly or something

[Error  :   BepInEx] Failed to load patcher [LethalLevelLoader.Patcher.LethalLevelLoaderPatcher]: An item with the same key has already been added. Key: [LethalLevelLoader.Patcher/LethalLevelLoader.Patcher.LethalLevelLoaderPatcher, BepInEx.Preloader.Patching.PatcherPlugin]

[leaden plinth]

v1.4.11 is from LLL and 1.5.4 is from LLL Updated

[whole mortar]

Yeah but in addition to 1.5.4 you have 1.5.6 in the profile

So it might be messing with things

[brisk schooner]

yea, that's wierd but bep will deny loading lower versions of the same mod so while its a good question of why/how I'd say its fairly unlikely to be the root cause of problems

[whole mortar]

Thing is I had to do a preloader specifically for FixPluginTypesSerialization, since it serializes the first occurrence of a dll it finds and ignores the rest, regardless of which one will be loaded later

[brisk schooner]

well that's weird behavior for sure

[whole mortar]

So it's skipping 1.4.11 (as intended), but then likely serializing 1.5.4 (which is not loaded), then 1.5.6 is left unserialized

Had to do that to allow 1.4.11 and >1.5.0 to exist in the same profile

[brisk schooner]

I have no idea how it manages to do it so wrong

I thought BIE used Cecil to inspect assemblies so nothing but the final loaded version ends up in the domain

[whole mortar]

This is before BepInEx

Or uhhh

FixPluginTypesSerialization runs at the preloader stage

[brisk schooner]

FPTS is bringing assemblies into the domain?

explode

[whole mortar]

Not actually loading them, just checks the profile folder and lists all plugins in there

But if there's two of the same dll, it'll only work on the first one it finds

[brisk schooner]

Oh okay so its a resolver and doesn't discriminate properly? BIE is a resolver that also doesn't discriminate properly. I understand that

[whole mortar]

Here pretty much: https://github.com/xiaoxiao921/FixPluginTypesSerialization/blob/master/src/FixPluginTypesSerialization/FixPluginTypesSerializationPatcher.cs#L17

But then when it's actually about to patch the assemblies, it sees that it's already patched one named LethalLevelLoader so it skips it, even though the already-patched one will not be loaded by BepInEx

Since it goes by alphabetical order, IAmBatby-LethalLevelLoader goes before pacoito-LethalLevelLoaderUpdated, so it would not serialize stuff properly for my version

[brisk schooner]

Oh so its not a resolver issue but its the same thing where it just takes the first one it finds, okay

[whole mortar]

I do just remove it in here, a bit goofy but works: https://github.com/pacoito123/LC_LethalLevelLoader/blob/LethalLevelLoaderUpdated/LethalLevelLoader.Patcher/LethalLevelLoaderPatcher.cs#L28

[brisk schooner]

BIE's resolver also just takes the first one it finds for its domain resolver function and doesn't use the version or anything to discriminate so its a similar problem

[whole mortar]

That is to say uhh, I have no idea where this third LLL .dll file is but depending on its location it can end up being the serialized one

Even if it doesn't load

[leaden plinth]

So I created a new profile using the code, deleted LLLU, and reinstalled it with the newest version. It seems to be working now, and I can also type in moons in the terminal again. Maybe the profile was just messed up. Also, I thought that downgrading a mod would uninstall the previous version and then install the selected one.

[whole mortar]

Yeah downgrading should uninstall older versions, not sure why there was just a bonus third .dll file in the profile

[brisk schooner]

B O N U S

[random coral]

if this hasn't been reported yet, seems like the lever still has some issues when taking off in the updated LLL

[whole mortar]

Oh wha, I have not noticed that, is this with just LLLU?

[random coral]

that video isnt, but recreated with just this

[whole mortar]

I'll look into it, but at least it doesn't actually seem to cause anything lol

Probably somethin I goofed with the lever changes

[random coral]

ye no prob lol it's just silly. maybe I was too quick to axe SBT's lever fix

[whole mortar]

It should be easier to patch (if needed), I switched to a transpiler that just calls this function here to return early: https://github.com/pacoito123/LC_LethalLevelLoader/blob/LethalLevelLoaderUpdated/LethalLevelLoader/General/Patches.cs#L773

Actually I can probably just add a condition that checks if ship is landing/taking off to that

[zenith flax]

uni pretty much done

@whole mortar now is officially a developer on LLL

(sorry for the delay)

[whole mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[zenith flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/899981160829046794/1437028050343690350/G5GrmtqWcAAgtSV.gif

[whole mortar]

I have not prepared an LLL release to deprecate the updated fork, it was unwise

[zenith flax]

I mean i took like a whole month to do this I don't think your under fire for not being able to get it into main within minutes 😛

[rough escarp]

This truly was... the lethal level loader

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-tyler-gif-22297480

[steady ingot]

Congrats!

[jagged drum]

Also congrats and yippiiiie for LLL ^-^

[granite sundial]

yayyy congrats

[crisp galleon]

Nice 🎉

[acoustic sonnet]

imo this should be a feature in LLL, https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/AutoScroll, like the only thing that didnt make it from LE

[quiet stream]

it should be. I use it so much I just made it a dependency of my moons lol

[olive bear]

honestly a good idea 🤔

[whole mortar]

Mayhaps

I'd change up the implementation a bit but it would be a nice feature yeah

[tall kindle]

yeah i've been writing an implementation on the side as well, i thought this was a vanilla feature lol

[whole mortar]

Gotta wait until Zeekerss adds a comically long moon description for it to become a vanilla thing

[crisp galleon]

Wasn’t this an LLL feature at one point? But it broke and was never fixed? Idk, I’m forgetting what Batby had to say on it now. It was a long time ago.

[hexed raptor]

pretty sure it was part of LE

[crisp galleon]

Oh yeah! Maybe that’s what it was

[slim wind]

it never was, that was a part of LE

[hexed raptor]

Titan is the only moon right now with a description too long

but it's still at-least one

[tall kindle]

@zenith flax this is probably pretty old implementation by now but i wanted to ask about your interior global props override code

from my understanding of vanilla code the following is true:
factorySizeMultiplier comes from the level
mapTileSize comes from the interior

factorySizeMultiplier / mapTileSize is supposed to give a consistent size of interior on said moon to balance some interiors having physically bigger tiles than other interiors

[tall kindle]

@strange rock i'd also appreciate if you could fact check me here, but i remember this being a thing that was discussed back when people were talking about dine or rend generating facility or mansion and them not being a similar size and this being zeekerss' solution to that

[strange rock]

Yes

interiors set mapTileSize

moons set factorySizeMultiplier

factorySizeMultiplier is divided by mapTileSize (and then there is a flat 1.5x from RoundManager.mapSizeMultiplier which never changes)

and that gives you the final dungeon size

[tall kindle]

yeah, and im assuming that division is done to account for interiors having different physical tile sizes between eachother

[strange rock]

before v50, mapTileSize didn't exist

because manors were so much larger than factories, rend and dine had 1.2 and 1.3 factorySizeMultiplier respectively

which would create tiny factories

meanwhile titan (which was 2.35 factorySizeMultiplier) would create absolutely colossal manors

v50 set manor's mapTileSize to 1.5 (factories use 1) which roughly translates to "each tile is 50% larger than factory tiles" and thus the length was reduced to ~67%

and also set rend and dine to 1.8 factorySizeMultiplier

so rend generates the same size manor as before and dine is actually a bit smaller than previous

anyways about the only other thing worth mentioning is that mineshafts have a mapTileSize of 0.9 (which i presume is because the cave tiles are so tiny)

but because the industry tiles are so massive and take up like 40% of the interior, mineshafts have the same problem manors used to have and are way larger than the other interior types on whatever moons they're assigned

[tall kindle]

lol

[strange rock]

im not sure if zeekerss made a mistake and intended for a 0.9x multiplier (in which case, mapTileSize should be 1.11111etc) or if he just thought "the cave tiles are smaller" and never checked the final results

but mineshafts are huge as a result

[tall kindle]

that's silly, but okay, i've got the right understanding then atleast, so that's good to know, and also reassures me that what im about to say about this LLL implementation seems correct

[strange rock]

anyways tldr all of this is correct

[tall kindle]

:3

the part where im wondering about batby's implementation of his globalprops overrides list is the following:

if (propOverride.globalPropID == globalProp.ID)
{
  globalProp.Count.Min = globalProp.Count.Min * Mathf.RoundToInt(Mathf.Lerp(1, (Refs.DungeonGenerator.LengthMultiplier / Refs.MapSizeMultiplier), propOverride.globalPropCountScaleRate));
  globalProp.Count.Max = globalProp.Count.Max * Mathf.RoundToInt(Mathf.Lerp(1, (Refs.DungeonGenerator.LengthMultiplier / Refs.MapSizeMultiplier), propOverride.globalPropCountScaleRate));
}

LLL has this code prefixing on .Generate, but there's a couple issues here
first is that I'm pretty sure this code assumes that the moon creator sets LengthMultiplier, which they kind of do but at the same time they don't, especially because LLL divides LengthMultiplier by the RoundManager's MapSizeMultiplier

base game overrides LengthMultiplier before .Generate with the following:
factorySizeMultiplier / MapTileSize * mapSizeMultiplier
which changes LLL's formula to actually be:

Mathf.Lerp(1, (factorySizeMultiplier / mapTileSize), scaleRateOrWhatever) on the lerps

so what I'm guessing the intention was, is that in a moon with a larger interior, the global props could extend and increase, but i don't think the math works out in that favour

i believe to achieve what you want in this global overrides thingie, you'd need to like, just set the lerp to be between 1 and factorySizeMultiplier

[zenith flax]

so i think this was maybe the thing scoopy asked me for very early on then realised dungen had a built in solution for the problem

hence why it might not be a great solution

but yeah iirc the intention was to scale global prop min max based on how the dungen might be getting scaled

because generally if someone expects 30 of a given prop to spawn on a 1x map they probably want 60 of said prop on a 2x map etc.

[zenith flax]

buttery explained the specifics but just incase the vibe wasn't explicitly clear a lot of this stems from a majority of lethal being designed with only the facility dungeon in mind, so responsibilities that should have been owned by interiors end up either completely or partially responsible by the moons instead

[tall kindle]

That makes sense, I was just trying to say I think the math formula used in LLL is accidently incorrect because variable names are misleading

But it's good to know dungen has it's own solution for this

[flint nexus]

Is the dungeon size multiplier config working in LLL. I tried to set restrictions but see no change when using imperium to test see the effect.

[whole mortar]

It is not at this moment

[flint nexus]

thanks for letting me know

[carmine ibex]

Hey all! I'm just now setting up LLL in 2022.3.62f2 following Audio Knight's tutorial. I'm not seeing any of the LLL scripts when I try to go to RMB>Create>LethalLevelLoader>ExtendedMod so I'm not sure if I'm missing a dependency like DawnLib or if something else is missing from my project set up.

[tall kindle]

click on LLL's dll, and untick validate reference

and keep repeating it for every dll that errors about missing a reference (unless that reference is listed in thunderstore as a hard dependency, dawnlib is a soft dependency on LLL's thunderstore)

[carmine ibex]

That worked! Thank you very much!!

[crisp galleon]

Hey Paco, idk if this is something you’d be interested in and it’s something I had kind of forgotten about, but I was thinking it might be nice to have a flooded water size override in the ExtendedLevel like how we can resize the foggy weather volume. It’s not something I suspect many will ever use, but I know I’ve seen a few people ask if it can be resized because, as you can see in the picture it’s weirdly shaped. The ship is circled in red and to the one side it stretches out quite far but the other, not so much (it actually comes close to not fitting my map here lol).

[quiet stream]

i would love this personally

[crisp galleon]

I saw you mention the flooded water in your thread which reminded me to propose the feature again. I know I’ve seen at least one other person ask about it so yeah, if Paco’s interested in adding it in, would be nice.

(Also, Zeekerss, why is the flooded water Pac-Man ghost shaped?)

[whole mortar]

Lol

[whole mortar]

Could be neat though yeah

[flint nexus]

When changing config files and setting an enemy on a moon to have 0-100% spawn chance, does it also affect the probability that it will spawn vs nothing spawning?

I understand that at each spawn cycle, the system randomly selects between a list of entities, and entities that have higher numbers are more likely to spawn. But I also understand that each moon has a spawning curve where some enemies are more or less likely to spawn depending on the time of day.

So for example, if the only enemy that could spawn was a Forest Giant, and it was set to 95, would it have a higher chance to spawn during the day as a nighttime enemy, even if the moon has a low curve for night enemies early on?

Or does the number only affect the odds that it is picked amongst a group of other enemies in it's category?

[acoustic sonnet]

thats not how spawn chances work

its not a percent

[flint nexus]

Is it like putting names in a hat

[acoustic sonnet]

the number is its weight which give it a change to spawn, all enemy weights get added together and if you divide an enemy's weight by the total

thats its spawn chance

seperate addition lists for inside, outside and daytime

so I have 7 possible enemies

100 + 60 + 20 + 8 + 9 + 2 +1 = 200

chance is relative to the total

[flint nexus]

I see, so the one with 100 weight has a 50% chance to spawn in that case

[acoustic sonnet]

yeah itll be the most common of the ones on this list

there is more too it

but thats the basics

[flint nexus]

So does the weight affect something spawning vs nothing spawning per cycle at all?

[acoustic sonnet]

nah thats something else

thats spawn curve

[flint nexus]

Gotcha, that's what I was mainly wondering, I appreciate it

[acoustic sonnet]

seperate setting that in LLL at least you cant edit as a player

you can with lunar config tho

but imo its not worth it a lot of the time

its complicated

[flint nexus]

yeah I had looked at it, but it caused some mod conflicts so I decided not to

Thanks for sharing that though,, it helps.

[acoustic sonnet]

Lunar shouldnt cause any? I mean edit curves isnt worth it

besides with scarlet mansion but that is on their end

[flint nexus]

If you have scarlet devil mansion it makes some of lunar config's files not actually show up

[acoustic sonnet]

yeah thats not lunar's problem

its SDM

bc of how it registers its enemies

im pretty sure

[flint nexus]

I mean I understand, but my group wants to keep that interior so I cant easily remove it. There's workarounds to the spawn curve anyway so I will let it be unless we decide to get rid of sdm

[acoustic sonnet]

might work with SDM once the next update comes out, not 100% sure tho, its changing apis rn

but yeah curves are a nightmare

I mean look at experimentation exterior

"-7.736962E-07,-2.997 ; 0.7105482,-0.6555822 ; 1.005263,5.359401"

[flint nexus]

I cannot plot on a graph gg

[zenith flax]

animation curves raw in a text config is gross

[acoustic sonnet]

enemy spawns should be enough imo

[flint nexus]

Yeah, ive gotten around some moons by making some nighttime enemies have tiny chances of daytime spawning, offset by manticoils and locusts, but sometimes it appears on arrival lol...

I guess it's funny but it can be limiting

Some moons people make dont seem to spawn outdoor enemies till 11pm

[acoustic sonnet]

well nighttime enemies arent a seperate thing

daytime is really just stuff that spawns upon landing and really early

rest of the outside pool really depends on what curve a moon has

[flint nexus]

Yeah, its just that it seems like some people have the idea that they want their moon to only be dangerous inside rather than outside, so almost nothing spawns outside.

And I guess I had tried to edit that

[acoustic sonnet]

to be fair I do think dangerous interiors are more fun lol

at least strictly talking vanilla monsters which most moons are basically design around

(since its hard to account for modded ones when designing unless its part of the moon)

[flint nexus]

for sure, I think so too, I mostly have a problem with nothing ever spawning if the map doesnt have some sort of obstacle itself.

But I agree that the interior enemies are usually more interesting, though I am very partial to baboon hawks

[acoustic sonnet]

honestly hard to make exterior enemy spawns fun with just the vanilla ones bc if you wanna make it hard your options are limited lol

and the main strong one(giants) are cancerous on many maps

[flint nexus]

Hard agree about giants lmao

its too hard to really know if they can see you or not.

[acoustic sonnet]

they are most fun on maps with blizzards that block their long range vision

[flint nexus]

But again its more the difference of nothing spawning vs at least a couple enemies existing

I do enjoy dogs with tulip snakes, because the tulip snakes make noise which alert the dogs to you

And baboon hawks stealing loot when they kill makes them sort of like loot bugs outside

[acoustic sonnet]

tulip snakes are a lot more ambient and are usually in daytime spawns

[flint nexus]

Yeah but in conjuction with other mobs they are interesting. I think mob interactions are fun. Like how blobs force you to move while nutcrackers make you try to stand still.

Or brackens with springs.

[whole mortar]

Sorta implemented

-# Don't look at anythin else, nothin suspicious going on

Also why is the flooded mesh 60k triangles 💀

I legit thought it was just a plane

[zenith flax]

wa

[whole mortar]

[zenith flax]

can it not just be a plane

[whole mortar]

I mean it can

It's also weirdly scaled a bit lol

[zenith flax]

like if it works 1:1 with just a standard plane i can let him know

i respect the scale lol

[whole mortar]

Ye I'm just about to test it lol

[brisk schooner]

https://tenor.com/cZYpHDcSZNy.gif

delicious tris

[whole mortar]

Tasty

[brisk schooner]

you should thank zeeks for feeding your graphix card

[whole mortar]

He provides heating for the Winter

[crisp galleon]

Oh I’m looking and I’m liking what I see

[whole mortar]

[whole mortar]

They be pretty similar

Except one is a plane and the other 60k triangles

[tall kindle]

While the flooded base game plane is rising, is it always statically up the y without any rotating of any kind?

I feel like there has to be a reason for it, you could try on a moon that has more bumps like assurance maybe

[fast geyser]

It has subtle waves, which requires topology to deform.
Technically it could be optimised by localising the dense geometry to the centre and having it follow the X and Z position of the local client, but idk how complicated that would be

[whole mortar]

I feel like waves could be done through shader too though

Mayhaps

[orchid lintel]

Yes, you can

[whole mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

Do let me know if there's any issues with the new stuff

[fast geyser]

There is an issue

[whole mortar]

Whar

[crisp galleon]

You must find it, Paco.

[whole mortar]

LR having to account for moon-specific replaced sound effects?

[crisp galleon]

Honestly I think they were just making a joke reply to this

[whole mortar]

Ye but I parried with an actual issue

[crisp galleon]

Ah

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[fast geyser]

Uh... Well I kind of already have to so this doesnt change anything

[whole mortar]

Ye that's what I mean

You'd replace em

Oh wait

I misread

[fast geyser]

I guess it could be cool to have the option to shift that to the actual moon dev

Or rather give them the option to account for LR is a better way of phrasing it

[whole mortar]

I did not read the 'to' in here, "Well I kind of already have (accounted for it) so this doesn't change anything"

Thought in that case you were referring to the overrides already working

[fast geyser]

Uhhhh... Well, I have to and already have in many cases. So both would be correct

[whole mortar]

But yeah SoundAPI would win if replacing stuff for a specific AudioSource (that I touch)

[fast geyser]

Speaking of

Can you tell that I really like this one

[rough escarp]

AAAAHHHHRRRRRHJGGGG

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-mr-boss-pim-impact-frames-supermonkeyball-gif-16057437007519815872

[whole mortar]

[rough escarp]

OKAY i've never done this before

do i just delete the old lethallevelloader from my editor and import the new version?

does it fuck up any existing scriptable objects?

[whole mortar]

No

Don't delete it from the editor

If you delete it it'll delete its GUID and make a new one, so everything that was referencing it will be missing

[rough escarp]

yeaah thats what i thought

[whole mortar]

In file explorer, just replace the old LLL dll with the new one

[rough escarp]

[whole mortar]

Then it'll start recompiling scripts

[rough escarp]

this?

[whole mortar]

Yeah, but don't drop it into editor, as it'll keep the old one and add (1) at the end of the new one

Open that folder in file explorer and replace it

[rough escarp]

ic ic

tanks 🐟

[whole mortar]

[errant lotus]

interesting

the only error log that I've got related to LLL is this

[unique geode]

Means you got 2 of the same bundle included

[whole mortar]

Huh

I mean yeah duplicate bundles are skipped and the game should load fine

Not sure why it's not lettin you land

Do you have full log?

[errant lotus]

not possible :,]
I never download single moons

[unique geode]

If you have Kenji's Moons and the Taldor Saga both installed it will do it

Just use Kenji's Moons

remove the Saga

[errant lotus]

I only use Taldor Saga
No kenji's Moons

[unique geode]

Try using Ken's Moons instead then it should fix it

[whole mortar]

Oh wait this wasn't when booting the game?

Somethin went wrong with hotreloading I guess

[errant lotus]

It was one of the latest logs

[humble comet]

i dont remember LLL repeating this day 1 to 7+ in a single lever pull
is this right or somethign went wrong ?

[whole mortar]

Uhhhhh not sure what's goin on there

You should send full log

[humble comet]

here

[whole mortar]

Hmm what about a modpack code? I think you got some old mods that may be causin trouble

[humble comet]

019b397c-c1b0-e907-a855-eb765e52561f

[whole mortar]

There be a few pretty big issues with LLL v1.6.0 I am now aware of

I shall release a hotfix as soon as I can, but in the meantime people should downgrade to LLLU v1.5.6

[whole mortar]

That is indeed one of the issues

Happens with DawnLib installed

I fixed it already so it'll be fixed in v1.6.1

[crisp galleon]

Lmao what? How does that happen?

[tall kindle]

I'm wondering the same thing lol

[crisp galleon]

LethalShipUnloader

[humble comet]

i was wondering something feels missing this morning lol

[rough escarp]

sorry guys i was hungry

[past reef]

even without dawnlib this happens

at least with biggership

[whole mortar]

Some goofy thing with AnimatorOverrideController lol

I guess it doesn't like me checking if the ship's animator's runtimeAnimatorController is already an AnimatorOverrideController and swapping the landing/takeoff clips

[whole mortar]

I only tested without BiggerShip but yeah should be fixed too

[brisk schooner]

I played with a group for hours with the update yesterday and we didn't really have any issues

[whole mortar]

Weird

The ladder disappearing is one of the smaller issues though

[brisk schooner]

Well the ladder only disappeared for us in orbit

It was always there when landed

[whole mortar]

Ye that's vanilla

Ladder + some other stuff disappear in orbit

[brisk schooner]

then we didn't have any issues

We had to restart the lobby at some point and noticed the update so we all updated to 1.6.0 and just kept playing

[slim wind]

you broke my heart

[zenith flax]

oh the missing ladder bug again

thought the newer project patchers had that fixed or am i tripping

[tall kindle]

this is a thing? i never noticed it with my edited ship animations

[zenith flax]

i could be wrong but when i ran into this initially i was under the impression it was due to the patcher missing the first frame of ripped animations

and the first frame of the ship animations enable a bunch of gameobjects and stuff

[tall kindle]

super possible, though it depends on what animation that is, i've only edited landing and leaving (which, atleast currently, do not have this issue)

[whole mortar]

It's weird though

[whole mortar]

Seems fine after swapping the commented out code with what's below, but I dunno if it could cause other compatibility issues

Ladder does persist when testing LLL without DawnLib (and also likely without BiggerShip and stuff)

I did also try resetting the OpenShip trigger and firing it off again but it did nothing (since the ship was already landed/landing)

[whole mortar]

I did not realize requireOwnership is false by default for the Rpc attribute, so there was somethin of considerable importance being requested on the server per client in the lobby

-# RuntimeDungeon.Generate() 💀

It woulda still thrown an error in log with how I had it before (so I still shoulda accounted for it), but it wouldn't have caused as many issues lmao

[tall kindle]

unity handles stacking animatoroverridecontrollers, just dont worry about it

you're meant to nest em ontop of eachother

in a way, anyway

[whole mortar]

Yeahh not sure what AnimatorOverrideController is doin internally so I was worried about that

[brisk schooner]

solarized detected

[whole mortar]

[slim wind]

he he he

[whole mortar]

It be pushed

[whole mortar]

This is fixed btw

[tall kindle]

welcome to the club of breaking everything

[whole mortar]

I've done it before 💀

Uh

I think

[tall kindle]

yeah but now you've done it to a mod that most people use

[whole mortar]

Lol

We do a little goofin

[tall kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/monoca-monoca-towa-danganronpa-luckressi-monoka-towa-gif-728906515565366262

[zenith flax]

I remember that one time i broke leaving the company and that one streamer got really upset

[humble comet]

very koole thanks

[acoustic sonnet]

didnt he blame wesley or was that someone else lol

[whole mortar]

Legendary crashout

[crisp galleon]

I’ve only heard the stories

[fast geyser]

I havent even heard the story

[whole mortar]

-# Smol patch

Wanted to wait a bit in case any more issues showed up, but the content configuration stuff do be moderately important

[acoustic sonnet]

btw does LLL now override LLLU(bc some things still depend on it, since they still need to update)

[whole mortar]

Ye

Latest LLLU doesn't have the patcher plugin that made it so the first LLL isn't serialized

So now the first LLL is being serialized

[brisk schooner]

cereal

[whole mortar]

FixPluginTypesCerealization

[brisk schooner]

[flint nexus]

Does this patch return functionality to the dungeon size multiplier config? The notes said it fixed it "always being applied" but I have not gotten it to work at all prior to this.

[whole mortar]

Yeah I made them apply in v1.6.0

1.6.1 fixed a networking funny with it

[flint nexus]

Oh very nice!

[whole mortar]

1.6.2 fixed an ancient LLL oopsie lmao

It only started causing issues due to the values actually being applied

[whole mortar]

It was using Enable Content Configuration to also set the dynamic dungeon size stuff

It has been a thing since LLL v1.1.0

https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/commit/4a368abf12c99a1763acc0d8bab7a8fd2fd5a57c#diff-392e13deffb1a35505be80899354e4174ac0c63bf4d807ee6fad2c4c3624f46dR116

[flint nexus]

I had been wanting to use it, so this is great news, thank you!

[flint nexus]

I think I'm doing this wrong.

I'm trying to limit this interior to 1.4, but it's not changing:

The moon's base size is 3.25

[whole mortar]

Does it generate 3.25?

If you land it should say "Overriding size to 1.4" or somethin like that in the log

When the dungeon generates

[flint nexus]

Let me try from a fresh boot up and see

This is what I found

I left the dungeon multiplier in imperium blank before I went to the planet

@whole mortar

[whole mortar]

How do you have it in the config?

Like min/max and stuff for that interior specifically

[flint nexus]

The moon is set to black Mesa, but the dungeonFlow is set to Tower. I am trying to limit Tower specifically.

Should I show you Tower's config? Because I don't see a Moon specific dungeon multiplier config.

[whole mortar]

Yeah Tower's config

[flint nexus]

These are all of Tower's config

[whole mortar]

Hmm

[flint nexus]

I am forcing tower to generate, but I am not touching the dungeon multiplier in imperium.

[whole mortar]

Yeah it should work with Imperium

But uhh

What value does it generate if you try with Restrict Dungeon Size Scaler set to 1?

Just wonderin

[flint nexus]

I will reboot the game and try it again

[whole mortar]

Ye

I'm wondering if the description of Restrict Dungeon Size Scaler might be misinformation

Or rather not sure why it'd be overriding it all the way up to 4.875

[flint nexus]

This mustve been it because, even though imperium says 3.25

Visually, the interior appears to be much smaller when i free cam

But I'm unsure as why 0 would override to 4.8

1 seems to force it to the restricted size.

[zenith flax]

it wouldn't show up in that imperium afaik as the code changes what value is used, not what value is set in the moon

[flint nexus]

That makes sense. That's the reason I used Black Mesa, so that I could visually tell due to it's much larger than normal dungeon multiplier.

I guess I misunderstood the tooltip in the config

But if it works, then great!

Still it remains as to why 0 added size in the override.

But if you didn't want any change, you probably would just turn off the functionality for the dungeon multiplier in the config for that interior.

[zenith flax]

the idea behind the option is that really moons shouldn't have that much control over interior size, as interiors are authored based on ideal/prefered generation sizing. The config options are meant to be like "hey if the moon is asking way too much or too little for this interior, let's figure out a compromise between the moons value and a value the interior is good with"

[flint nexus]

For sure, and I agree with the sentiment. Some interiors have much smaller/bigger tilesets than others.

[whole mortar]

It acting as a clamp just in general (with a value of 1) is fairly useful, but yeah that makes sense

Just still not quite sure of how it gets to 4.875 when trying with values of 3.25 for the moon and 1.4 for the interior, I'd expect it to be like somewhere in between those two values maybe

[flint nexus]

I tried it with values inbetween like 0.5 0.7 0.9 and it did seem to try to find a middle ground

So that is at least working.

[whole mortar]

Hmm yeah might be something with 0 specifically

[pine olive]

i'll need to reproduce and log it later, but 1.6.2 reintroduces a couple of previously squashed bugs.

1. Refreshing a lobby can reroll items if done soon enough after the first join.
2. Mostly noticable with RandomMoonFX, but pulling the lever can load the moon, but not the interior, thus not landing the ship.

i also noticed interiors generating incredibly small, but it seems that is of discussion rn as well

[whole mortar]

Check your settings for the dynamic dungeon size restriction stuff

If you have it enabled and there's a small value for min/max it'll just clamp the interior to that size

Those settings actually do stuff now

Also most likely why interior won't load, if it tries generating certain interiors at that low of a size

[pine olive]

so untick it to go back to what it was doing before?

[whole mortar]

Yeah

Or you can also adjust it if you think an interior's too large for instance

[pine olive]

noted

[whole mortar]

Can also do it through LunarConfig but yeah

[pine olive]

that just leaves the item rerolling

[whole mortar]

Yeah that I'm not sure

I'd need logs mayhaps

[pine olive]

i'll try and reproduce it tomorrow. done chuggin thru it for the night

[whole mortar]

But DawnLib should be handling item save stuff if you have it enabled in its config

[pine olive]

i think i disabled it

[whole mortar]

It's off by default though

[pine olive]

"off"

[whole mortar]

Actually you know what

I wonder if Botanic Appy had somethin to do with it

Probably shuffled some stuff after unloading

[pine olive]

hmmmmmmm

mebbers

[whole mortar]

I'll try repro real quick by just going to Kanie lmao

[tall kindle]

i dont think it'd be this for several reasons, but its 7am and i'd be typing a lot so i'll just let you try it out and find out

[whole mortar]

Yeah just a guess

Hmm yeah doesn't seem to be the case

[whole mortar]

Actually what do you mean by "if done soon enough after the first join"?

[pine olive]

load lobby. land on moon. die. quit game. reload lobby. SHUFFLE

[tall kindle]

Oh lobby reload shuffle

Paco you re introduced that back in there?

Well that's a stupid question from me

I guess send your modpack code pepsi man

[whole mortar]

💀

I mean I didn't touch anything save-related

[pine olive]

currently on 1.6.0 for the interior generation. i'll get something up tomorrow

[tall kindle]

If Paco wants to (I can't rn), log every item in the items list on like lever pull, reload lobby, log again, check the difference

[whole mortar]

1.6.0 is pretty bugged

Or uhh

There was a lot of gullible present in the update

[pine olive]

https://tenor.com/view/it-says-gullible-on-the-ceiling-it-didnt-say-gullible-on-the-ceiling-cat-look-down-gif-27030097

[unique geode]

Just uhhh Downgrade LLLU to 1.5.6 and LLL to 1.4.11

I may also do this for my lobby tomorrow since bugs are being reported

[tall kindle]

And if all doesn't work, you could try switching to DawnLib's, but it'd need to be midgame so it doesn't break your current save, so something like joining the save, turning the config to off (so turning it on), triggering the save through lobby control, and then it should be fine (I'm fairly sure anyway, but there's probably still some risk)

[unique geode]

Honestly I'm not sure why he's not using DawnLib's item saving

[tall kindle]

Pepsiman does big long runs

[unique geode]

Ah fair

[tall kindle]

I imagine I was messing with the saving system a bit more than he was comfortable with at the time

[pine olive]

[unique geode]

That would make sense

[pine olive]

ill do testing tomorrow

sorry for the inconvenience. just had a long day

[unique geode]

Hey dw about it

[whole mortar]

Worry about it

-# /j

[unique geode]

Lacy says we should send you to the abyss paco

[tall kindle]

Nuhuh, crosses out your /j

[whole mortar]

sadcat

[lusty lagoon]

having an issue with a custom scrap that i have in a mod
the scrap is simply called "2", although called "twoTheItem" internally
trying to configure the moon where it spawns turns the scrap into binoculars by default (i don't think LLL likes having "2:2" as part of the list), and trying to use the internal name of the scrap (or maybe just any scrap LLL doesn't recognize) can make the scrap spawn on moons where it isn't supposed to spawn and has not been configured to spawn

in a lobby i was in today it was replaced with a scrap from a different mod when configured

[whole mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

Interesting name for a scrap item

[tall kindle]

Could this be related to the issue the other guy had where he had a Wesley's moons item on assurance randomly?

[lusty lagoon]

it probably is

another issue the scrap had was that it spawned on Playplace for some reason even though it wasn't configured to spawn there

should be easy to reproduce. just need to install this mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MBCollector672/cashmoney/ and this mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheGoose444/The_Playplace/
try to configure "ULTIMATE Cash Money TWO PLATINUM MOD OF THE YEAR Edition" and all the 2s will be replaced with binoculars
use the internal name (twoTheItem) instead of the display name (2) in the config and 2s will now spawn on The Playplace moon

they might even spawn on playplace already without doing any config changes i haven't tested that but it's likely

(and yeah the reason the scrap is called "2" is because the entire joke with the cash money TWO moon is the number 2)

[fierce chasm]

sort and preview commands and config dont work. typing 'sort price' dosent work and neither does changing the config to sort it that way either. does anyone else have this issue?

[fierce chasm]

the bar at the bottom dosent show up either

[whole mortar]

Oh I forgor to reply

[whole mortar]

Sorting require the thing in question to be displayed, so to sort by price it needs to show the price of the moons

So if you do preview price or preview all, then sort price will work

If preview price or all ain't working for you, then not sure but it's probably some mod incompat

However uhh

LLL update

-# @idle coral Took a bit but blacklist feature be pushed

[unique geode]

@wet vortex I tested, you can blacklist Starlancer's bundles too if you only want StarlancerZero

[idle coral]

Thank you, so much. I am now free from having my ram implode on me mid-game.

[glossy pecan]

So quite a few mods still claim LethalLevelLoaderUpdated is a dependancy, can I just ignore that while using the actual LLL?

[crisp galleon]

yes

[whole mortar]

@pearl mauve There be DungeonMatchingProperties for enemies

[lusty lagoon]

any word on this issue
is there anywhere to like more properly create an issue report other than just this channel or is it just not a priority/haven't gotten to it yet/whatever

[whole mortar]

Oh uhhh

So you see, LLL ignores all characters up until the first letter on an item's name

Keyword letter

So 2:2 is just considered <blank>:2 since there's no letter, which causes issues

Two2:2 would be fine, for instance

[whole mortar]

So yeah could rename it from just '2' to 'Two'

[pearl mauve]

joyous times

[lusty lagoon]

is the name "2" also what causes it to break other configs?

[whole mortar]

Prooobably

[rough escarp]

ship anims work now right?

just making sure

[whole mortar]

Mayhaps

[rough escarp]

is that a yes or no dude

https://tenor.com/view/eb-games-copy-that-stressed-nodding-gif-18013527765823155039

[rough escarp]

ill take that as a yes

hooray

[whole mortar]

Ye they should be applyin

[crisp galleon]

This is a beautiful landing sequence

[pine olive]

any idea why i get a flood of red and the black fog of death on lobby loadup with the latest update?
reverted to and tested with 1.6.3 and it works fine

[unique geode]

Seems Kiszony also had this issue but it's fine in my pack, some mod appears to be causing some sort of conflict I'd assume that you and Kiszony have that I don't

@whole mortar We got another one

@pine olive Maybe cus of this?

I also see this in here, do you not have SoftMaskKiller or DiFFoZTweaks?

And then this is a big error from LLL

[pine olive]

noticed something very interesting. i have DemonMae's Dark World interiors installed. this is what it looks like on 1.6.3 in the LLL config
https://i.gyazo.com/fce82f82174fe87d2883bdfc57dded44.png

but when on 1.6.4, only one is there, but it's registered as "Dark World CH", and has default values

[unique geode]

@whole mortar

[pine olive]

launching with em disabled

[oak drum]

crash land repair ship soontm

[whole mortar]

o

[crisp galleon]

He flew too crazy. Broke LLL 😔

[whole mortar]

Hmm

[pine olive]

disabling didnt work. now disabling all interiors with numbers in their names

[whole mortar]

Yeah it should preserve numbers, weird

I be double checkin

[pine olive]

FOUND IT

gonna do one other tiny test to confirm

but i found the minimum cause

ok, so the number thing is a separate issue. only one of the dungeons will get registered

HOWEVER

[whole mortar]

(I did forget a thing )

[pine olive]

i found the red flood source

[whole mortar]

But hmm

[pine olive]

lemme link the mods

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/v0xx/SectorAlpha_Interior/
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/v0xx/SectorBeta_Interior/

the interiors use the alpha and beta symbols

[whole mortar]

o

It should also be keeping Greek letters lol but I'll double check

[pine olive]

i do know one of the errors thrown mentions something about an unrecognized character

[slim wind]

wtf

[crisp galleon]

Does this mean we can make Morvdonalds have the ship go through the drive-through?
(I have no idea if this is already a thing or if there is even a drive-through to use)

[whole mortar]

Lol

[whole mortar]

Pushed hotfix for this

Seems to be fine with Sector β now for instance

[pine olive]

https://tenor.com/view/shia-labeouf-clapping-theatre-gif-15313749163340250467

and the number issue?

[whole mortar]

I no longer ate those number

[whole mortar]

(Ye also fixed)

[pine olive]

good shit

thanks, man

[pine olive]

gave er a test run. works beautifully

[whole mortar]

Yippee

[unique geode]

How did you end up breaking this to begin with paco?

Glad to see it fixed now though

[unique geode]

Neat but this does not explain things goober

Unless you’re saying you chilled too hard and did a bit of gullible vibe coding in which case I can’t believe you would do that paco

Lmao

[steady ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-whos-sus-not-me-gif-7283757931826139493

[unique geode]

I'm kidding of course I know paco wouldn't do this lol

[whole mortar]

I was not aware of \p{L} to match letters of any language

Also one at the bottom was missing a \d to match digits, which means I ate those number

[unique geode]

oh lol

[brisk schooner]

[crisp galleon]

DawnLib has interior hot loading if I understand correctly. Are their plans for LLL to also support this? Just trying to figure out if I should swap my interior over or if I can just wait it out (am lazy).

[void cove]

@whole mortar @tall kindle
I'll post about it here since, from what i know, the simulate command comes from LLL but its a DawnLib incompat thing
When interiors are registered via DawnLib + LunarConfig as of their most recent updates, the command will only tell you the interiors of the moon you are currently orbiting
Like, if i am on Vow, and run simulate titan, which should tell me Titan's weights, it will just pull up Vow's weights but still say "Titan" at the top
In this example, first image is Experimentation's interiors, 2nd is titan's, and then 3rd is me running simulate titan on Experimentation

its a kinda minor issue, as once you orbit the planet the simulate command runs fine
The functionality is just unintentionally changed from being able to simulate any moon to just simulating the currently orbited moon.
Its also nothing to do with TerminalFormatter; disabling the node for it yields the exact same results from the command

Here is the code and log if you need: 019bcc9d-8d57-029d-f52f-14f703bf0eda

Byeah thats with LLL 1.6.5, DawnLib 0.6.3 and LunarConfig 0.3.2

[whole mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[tall kindle]

The problem kinda comes from the fact that the whole weight thing picks up the current moon you're on etc rather than a moon passed on, I'll see if I can change that but dunno

[whole mortar]

Oh btw (somewhat related), but due to DawnLib overriding the moons page, LLL's filter, sort, and preview stuff doesn't work

Not sure if you have anything planned for it in the terminal update you're doin for DawnLib, because uh

I assume you were doin it because LLL wasn't makin ExtendedLevels for Dawn moons before, so they weren't being shown in the list

But could do this to let LLL handle the page when present (at least for the moment while cooking a rewrite)

[tall kindle]

Hmm maybe I should let it overtake until then

[slim wind]

just when i did a manual override for it 😭 oh nevermind that doesn't impact my shenanigans

[whole mortar]

Ye TerminalFormatter overrides it

Both LLL and DawnLib's moons page

[slim wind]

it does from the latest version

[unique geode]

I actually really like what paco showed me of how LLL's works now, paco basically integrated the functionality of formatter's Moons page

[slim wind]

👀 what does that mean

[unique geode]

Not as nice as Formatter but yeah

It looks really good

[whole mortar]

I did not change it 💀

It's been like that always lmao

[unique geode]

Oh really?

lol

[slim wind]

that's how GI was formatting it since the god knows when

[slim wind]

💀

[unique geode]

I've used TerminalFormatter for so long I would not have known, I just remember LLL shrinking the moons list

XD

[whole mortar]

That I did change

[slim wind]

would you be interested in changing how ExtendedLevelGroup works and displays?

because in some cases the groups have 1 entry 💀

[whole mortar]

Hmmm

Weird

[slim wind]

try setting the filter to something

[whole mortar]

Or maybe it's hidden moons?

[slim wind]

oh could be

still

🤮

[whole mortar]

Mayhaps I could skip hidden moons in the grouping process

[slim wind]

i've had a few tries in changing the terminal systems altogether (specifically the implementation of filter/preview/sort for registering new types of options) but fuck me it was too hard

[whole mortar]

Lol

[past reef]

Does this mod overrides butterybalance interior changes?

[whole mortar]

Probably?

Depends on when it gets applied by ButteRyBalance

[past reef]

Can I turn off a vanilla interior? I tried to add only expanded facility and mineshaft for all moons pool and it got stuck on random seed.

[whole mortar]

Yeah should be fine to turn them off

Do you have a log of it happening?

Mighta been something being misconfigured maybe

[past reef]

Maybe its dungeon injection from lunar config i tried to do this too

For the maneater

[past reef]

Its DungeonInjection

[whole mortar]

o

[crisp galleon]

Sorry, but I just want to bump this question again.

[whole mortar]

Oh mb didn't reply to it

But uhh

It ain't somethin I'm actively workin on

Don't really wanna just yoink DawnLib's ways of doin it also

Though I will steal footsteps

-# At some point

[crisp galleon]

Understandable

[tall kindle]

so i did this for you but it kinda made some things not nice , LLL doesnt put all company moons at the top/give the selling price (if tagged properly) like in DawnLib, so uh, yeah

[whole mortar]

Hmm yeah it doesn't account for Company moons

[tall kindle]

it would be nice little UX improvement for the terminal

[tall kindle]

i think i have a dawnlib build with this fixed now, just gotta wait to let crafty get my changes so i dont just entirely break lunar config impromptu (it would currently break lunar config)

[void cove]

Oh awesome
I look forward to that and the unlockables price config working

[tranquil egret]

Wonder if it could be possible that when you type in simulate with no other keywords with it... it'll simulate the current moon you're orbiting.

...unless that's not possible to do?

[whole mortar]

Could do that mayhaps yeah

[void cove]

makes sense, would be useful

[whole mortar]

[whole mortar]

This now be a thing

[whole mortar]

This no longer be a thing

[whole mortar]

This still not yet a thing, but I now be skipping DawnLib moons for the level overrides

[whole mortar]

@crystal wigeon ⁨route n3vada⁩ should work now

@quiet stream @mortal ruin Scene selection multiplayer issues be fixed

[slim wind]

holy shit you did it

[whole mortar]

Also formatted the simulate page a bit

[slim wind]

i cannot be bothered to check if it breaks formatter 💀

[slim wind]

ooooh

👀

[whole mortar]

It should still get overriden by TerminalFormatter

[zenith flax]

I one point i wanted to pie chart the sim page

[slim wind]

oh jesus

[tall kindle]

That would be cool