Lethal Level Loader [Custom Content Loading API]

[zenith flax]

Ye

Dats the whole cool thing

cuz i close em too

[tall kindle]

Ye I just never knew when you did it, that's honestly pretty perfect timing

[ember shore]

So my ancient pc might just encounter a "hiccup" when changing routes?

I'll see how bad it is when I get home.

Has anyone tested the new update with faster asset load?

[zenith flax]

Not hiccup

It’s done async

I prevent lever pull until everyone is ready

I’ve tried to test faster asset load but too many variables and natural inconsistencies for just one person to test so i kinda gotta let it play out abit

[ember shore]

And i am guessing on a seperate thread or no?

[zenith flax]

I think but unity is kinda useless when it comes to multithreading

[ember shore]

I'll test it later and if anything breaks I'll just give you a log

[zenith flax]

At the very least the game doesn’t stall while it waits

About to go to bed but anyone free to leave me logs and I’ll try and put out any fires tomorrow

[ember shore]

Yeah dw I'll be home in like 8 hours + testing will take more time so you'll be well awake by that point

[wet vortex]

holy based

can't wait to see how well this runs once the moonmakers get their assetbundles compatible

i sent a little thing for your hard work, not much but i wanted to support

[rich aurora]

Feature will defo get me to consider maybe adding in a few more mainstay modded moons into my pack with the less resources to handle them

Cause atm I kinda just, cycle a few moons based on feedback

[rough edge]

oo hot-loading bundles

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874214351052111895/1249381110056616068/4x5-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[final hedge]

How does this work (or not work) with Diffoz faster load assetbundles patcher? Is there any advantage/disadvantage to keeping that?

[hexed mesa]

@zenith flax wait did you never fix dungeon loading with
PatchedContent.RegisterExtendedMod(extendedMod);

[hexed mesa]

@zenith flax BATBY

[plush wing]

Sleepy.

[maiden valley]

another one

this happens randomly since the LLL update

[unique geode]

I'm worried now if I should revert it today or not and wait til tomorrow lol I see a couple mods are exploding

[acoustic sonnet]

what other mods blew up haha

ik scarlet and a bunch of old unupdated interiors

[unique geode]

Well Raphtalia is screaming cus Batby did an oopsie and Rebalanced Moons also seems to be nuked from what dopadream just showed

Hmmmm

[humble comet]

if youre in a hurry i think u should just revert

[true void]

I'm already seeing insane gains. My modpack used to make the game eat up 13gb RAM and now it only takes 3/4gb

[maiden valley]

Its not nuked

It does that sometimes

but you can reload the lobby and it fixes it

[unique geode]

Ah

[maiden valley]

its just like kinda annoying

idk it seems to happen on first host(?)

its super weird

I might have to add some code on my end to forcefully load the asset bundle before landing... which is annoying

[unique geode]

I think for my play session today I'll keep it downgraded til Batby can hotfix the issues and I'll check out the update tomorrow

Just to be on the safe side

[maiden valley]

yeye

I'm recommending that as well

but the performance gains are insane i cant lie

[north vigil]

any idea whats causing this? I havent touched anything in a good while so I imagine it's an LLL update thing

[maiden valley]

I genuinely have no idea but I'm pretty certain it's related to the scene hot loading stuff

[unique geode]

Ye I bet

[maiden valley]

i can't wait to see this get ironed out

[digital breach]

are you referencing this perhaps? #1193461151636398080 message

^

[plush wing]

List<ExtendedContent> serializedExtendedContents = new List<ExtendedContent>(extendedMod.ExtendedContents);
extendedMod.UnregisterAllExtendedContent();
foreach (ExtendedContent extendedContent in serializedExtendedContents)
{
    try
    {
        extendedMod.RegisterExtendedContent(extendedContent);
    }
    catch (Exception ex)
    {
        DebugHelper.LogError(ex, DebugType.User);
    }
}

In this step, extendedContent is null.

[north vigil]

do you know what I'd need to do to rectify the error? I havent touched my mod in over 2 months so a little rusty on it lol

[plush wing]

Which it could be fucked if it was expecting deep copying instead of shallow copying.

[plush wing]

Well, do you have any null entry in the extended list?

Like a null ExtendedItem, for example.

[north vigil]

I think there is one, but it never caused an issue before (and I don't know why it was null to begin with tbh, it doesn't exist anymore)

[plush wing]

Well, try removing it and see if it still causes issues.

[north vigil]

alright will give it a shot

[north vigil]

fixed part of it but still getting the dictionary error

my assumption is the new hot-loading means the dictionary held in LLL doesn't have my bundle stored on startup anymore as it's "not needed yet"

[plush wing]

Yeah, that code was commented out.

[serene light]

What got changed about asset bundles?

[plush wing]

Ergh, it wasn't pinned.

https://discordapp.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1193461151636398080/1329603437263982664

[serene light]

That’s peak

[north vigil]

ah, so how would I fix this then? apologies for the all questions
getting this error now

[plush wing]

Whatever you have in ReindogDLL.OnExtendedModRegistered where you try to access a field/method from is null.

[north vigil]

so I cant access the assetbundle that LLL has already loaded now?

[plush wing]

I believe it only loads it on demand now.

[whole mortar]

Thought it was just scene bundles that are unloaded though

[plush wing]

Though I had the idea it was only on moons.

[whole mortar]

I still load stuff from an ExtendedMod AssetBundle at runtime

[north vigil]

hmmm

[whole mortar]

How do you have it set up?

[plush wing]

If it loads, it's not through here, lol.

[rough escarp]

do moon makers have to make changes for hot-reloading to take effect or something?

cause i dont see anything different (yes i updated)

[plush wing]

https://discordapp.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1193461151636398080/1329603437263982664

[rough escarp]

yeah i was looking for that message

thanks

[spiral siren]

huh, is that after some moons updated to support it? I was under the impression that we had to give LLL a way to know that it could defer moon loading before RAM usage would be reduced

[true void]

I only had a couple updates, and most weren't moons. It seems as long as they only bundled the Extended mod and the scene for the moon, it's compatible, which a lot of moons already do

If they followed the updated AudioKnight tutorial, (to my knowledge) it should work with the hot loading feature

[acoustic sonnet]

from what batby said there are other fixes that increase performance, tho the moon updates will do a lot more

at least im pretty sure

[rough escarp]

still havent seen a difference ngl, could be that the moons i have didnt update for it

[acoustic sonnet]

most moons havent

id say in 1-2 weeks itll smooth out

[spiral siren]

I'm not sure if that answers my question, are you saying that it is moon updates that enable this?

[rough escarp]

100%

then how did reale have a difference yet i didnt 😭

[true void]

It all depends on how they did their assetbundles when they made their moon

[acoustic sonnet]

them updating enables the majority of optimizations

[spiral siren]

my understanding was that Batby had no way to detect compatibility with hot loading, so unless he included a whitelist idk how it would work so well so soon

[true void]

Hm, idk

[acoustic sonnet]

im being frank Ive only felt minor improvements

[true void]

I'll have to look again later to see which ones were being unloaded

[spiral siren]

there are more optimizations than just not having scenes in memory?

[acoustic sonnet]

only minor ones, im not sure how reale is getting so much better haha

[spiral siren]

huh

I hadn't heard about any other than that, I would be curious to know more

[rough escarp]

teach us your secrets reale

[true void]

Yeah so I think it just makes sure the assetbundles aren't dependent on each other. If that's the case, then it unloads them. All my moons automatically unload and I didn't change a thing

(Except for one that I updated an hour ago)

https://discordapp.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1193461151636398080/1329603437263982664

Just going off the info from the link in this message

[acoustic sonnet]

not really sure myself but id assume its just some bug fixes/code optimizations

[north vigil]

so how would I go about accessing my assetbundle now? using the assetbundleloader.assetbundles[]throws me this error now and manually loading my assetbundle throws an error that the assetbundle is already loaded

[spiral siren]

huh that wasn't the impression I got in DMs before the release, but maybe Batby cracked the code of detecting the dependencies

presumably the future optimization with the streaming bundles list will be to use that as a blacklist of bundles that don't need loading at startup or something

[plush wing]

@whole mortar seems to not have that issue so maybe do what they do?

[spiral siren]

or maybe what he was referring to in DMs was just about detecting it without loading it first, I guess I could have misinterpreted

if it can detect that though, it would make sense if you had immediate gains, since that setup for the bundles is what everyone should do anyways

saved black mesa like 100mb when I did it for the latest major update

[zenith flax]

Logs are not indicative of it working correctly. I cannot tell if it’s working correctly because when it doesn’t Unity just lies and says the bundle is unloaded but will never free it from memory

I try to unload every scene bundle given to lll

[zenith flax]

I have an event you can listen to, will show you when I get up

[spiral siren]

ohh so you load the assets you need, check which ones contain scenes you care about, create a map of those to reference in-game and then unload everything?

so every scene is "hot-loading" but some will have assets that are actually in the mod bundle instead of the streamed scene bundle?

[north vigil]

awesome thanks, please ping me when you do! Other than my mod shattering into a million pieces this seems like a great update

[zenith flax]

I know which to care about because they are streaming bundles with the .lethalbundle file extension. Yeah i have a whole “safe” wrapper class that holds certain pieces of info for bundles that i can touch when they are not loaded

[hexed mesa]

Batby!

Did you ever fix the RegisterContentMod function thing

[zenith flax]

Dependency isn’t a problem because of assets being in the wrong bundle it’s a problem because i flat out cannot remove the bundle from memory

[spiral siren]

huh, like unity will just tell you no?

I didn't know it could do that

[zenith flax]

No it tells me yes

It just doesn’t do it

[spiral siren]

oh

silly unity

[zenith flax]

🙂

Which semi makes sense but is very difficult to gleem in runtime

[hexed mesa]

I patched my mod with new LLL version

But my dungeon is not being recognized

[zenith flax]

Oh that, Will look into today so sorry

Just woke up had pretty much no sleep yesterday

[hexed mesa]

Understandable, I will let this slide

[spiral siren]

uh oh

did you get a good night today at least?

or do you mean that sleep 😅

[zenith flax]

ive had like 8 hours over the past two nights 😅

btw if ur someone who found an LLL issue but didnt put it anywhere lll related u suckkkkkk

[soft eagle]

afaik there were reports of broken interiors here https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1189848033110798346 and https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1206390977674354738 here

[plush wing]

And people getting "blue screened" in the select mode screen (Online or LAN).
Already tried asking for logs but they just kindly ignored me.

[zenith flax]

yeah that one is interesting

the unloading of bundles does take time that doesnt exist otherwise but it shouldn't be stalling anything

[wet vortex]

got this where the level loader config thinks SDM and LC Office aren't installed, i'm assuming this is just cus they weren't updated with new LLL dll yet?

[zenith flax]

no i fucked up

no mods aside from borozos n sdm should have to update

and maybe reindog cuz he's doing weird shit

[wet vortex]

oh ok

[digital breach]

would it be out of the question to add a message to the menu screen indicating when bundle load is in progress & when it's complete? Kinda like cod's preloading shaders message

[zenith flax]

yeah i have that code in another project i can grab

but worth noting that it shouldn't be increased from previous

[whole mortar]

Already updated Bozo yesterday

[digital breach]

yeah I figure it's just slow hardware folks only now noticing their issues

[wet vortex]

i mean

i did notice on the startup screen it dropped to 2 fps for like 6 sec while it was unloading bundles

but i don't think thats a big deal

[crisp galleon]

I think https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1196943144009351258 broke too :(

the interior. idk about shrimp

[zenith flax]

itll all be the same problem

sorry for that everyone

releasing LLL updates that don't break any mods released since 1.0.0 is very hard

[crisp galleon]

All good. Assumed it was the same underlying thing, just figured I'd throw it out there if anyone was looking to keep track of which ones aren't working atm

[zenith flax]

@hexed mesa can you show me how your registering your stuff rn

think i know the problem maybe

or atleast i know a problem and im hoping it's only one

https://tenor.com/view/bigbird-one-of-these-things-is-not-like-the-others-gif-11251276

[hexed mesa]

@zenith flax https://git.touhou.dev/Raphtalia/SDM_LethalCompany_Mod/src/commit/d8deb1654bc46a92e545c93389346633b01af3d7/ScarletMansion/ScarletMansion/Plugin.cs#L133

[spiral siren]

wuh oh

so black mesa was probably broken too then

if manually registered extended mods were missing their flows anyway

[zenith flax]

depends how gave it to me

there's like 4 fucking ways rn cuz legacy

[zenith flax]

ty. pushing an update now that i dont think will fix yours just yet but looking into rn

LethalLevelLoader 1.4.1

• Fixed issue with older mods not being registered correctly
• Improved stalling during AssetBundle unloading on initial load

Give it some time to hit Thunderstore and such.

Issues w/ joining late and related are still being looked into
some interiors may still be having problems

i didnt actually test this one but the spirits told me its ok

[remote quail]

i have faith in the spirits

they wouldn't lie

that'd be silly

[spiral siren]

we are also using PatchedContent.RegisterExtendedMod() so presumably same issue?

come to think of it, @unique geode had issues with Black Mesa not loading.. would that be with the new update?

[zenith flax]

Probably, sorry

That’s next on the list

[spiral siren]

yeah no worries, just good to know the cause

[zenith flax]

I have like 5 more hours of dev and then unfortunately im away for 48 hours roughly

[spiral siren]

oh gog damn

well lemme know if I can help with anything then if it'll make it easier to get things stable before then

[zenith flax]

I figured better release yesterday than wait another 3 days to get it out so here we are

[unique geode]

Well hope to see the new update at least iron some stuff out, if there's still a few bugs it's okay I'm just glad to see you updating LLL at all and releasing peak stuff 🙂

Your return to updating the mod has been amazing, and your hard work and dedication is always appreciated

I know we don't always get along but I love the hard work you do

I'll be sure to just not do late joins tomorrow since you said late joins are a problem 🙂

[zenith flax]

found the problem

it's a really funny reminder that identifying a problem does not mean your assumption on the cause is correct

black mesa and SDM are loading in fine

the vanilla content tag importing is not running

so matching via content tags is failing

pain

i deserve that

[steady ingot]

Oof oh well at least you found it rather quickly

[zenith flax]

for inconvience ill add a feature for people

LethalLevelLoader 1.4.2

• Fixed issue with ContentTags failing to be applied to Vanilla content
• Added OverrideNoun value to ExtendedLevel, allowing authors to optionally modify the word used when accessing the level from the Terminal

@slim wind @digital breach incase relevant

LLL now uses this in ExtendedLevel

        public string TerminalNoun => string.IsNullOrEmpty(OverrideRouteNoun) ? NumberlessPlanetName.StripSpecialCharacters().Sanitized() : OverrideRouteNoun.StripSpecialCharacters().Sanitized();

[digital breach]

👀

I may find uses for this

[zenith flax]

from top of my head i can't imagine this breaking stuff on your guys end but apologies if something does come up

[digital breach]

no worries, i'm of the mind that anything that breaks is my problem not yours 🫡

[zenith flax]

Only stuff that should be a problem based on the reports i've been given right now are

-Sometimes lever is allowed to be pulled when it shouldn't (but doesn't actually do anything)
-A mix of re-joining pre-existing saves and/or mid-game joining of games causes hotloading system to softlock

[unique geode]

For the late join stuff, since Matty maintains Lobby Control I wonder if you and Matty can figure that out together

[zenith flax]

If anyone find the problem before me I'm more than happy to receive that help

[unique geode]

Yeah for sure I agree ^^ @feral pecan whenever you have a free moment if you can help Batby out with the late join issues it would be great

[zenith flax]

this code is fucked

[unique geode]

Honestly with an update this large I would have been surprised if there weren't any issues that cropped up. It's one of the largest steps forward we've had for modding in a while

[hexed mesa]

get your ass back here @zenith flax

i tested v1.4.2, my dungeon still not showing up

[zenith flax]

https://tenor.com/view/quagsire-blink-blinking-gif-25635243

black mesa worked 🥺

ill look again in a sec

just re-writing the entire networkbundle thing

[hexed mesa]

so you can verify that im not crazy

[zenith flax]

oh fuck me

ok

thank you

[hexed mesa]

what was issue?

[zenith flax]

you have no lethalbundles in your setup

we've had this issue before

[hexed mesa]

arent i like the only dude not using lethal bundles

[zenith flax]

theres a couple others

[hexed mesa]

and creating expendedmod within my code

cool so its not just me then lol

[spiral siren]

black mesa also doesn't use a lethal bundle for interior, is it diff somehow?

[zenith flax]

no but i had other mods with lethalbundles loaded

[spiral siren]

oh huh

[hexed mesa]

oh the same same problem before

[zenith flax]

its an order of execution thing

i dont fire an event i need to fire

[olive bear]

Hey batby I checked your github and your events for bundles finished loading don't seem to get triggered anymore. I was using AssetBundleLoader.onBundlesFinishedLoading as an entrypoint to load stuff out of bundles your mod loaded.

[zenith flax]

hmm, they should be

can you send me relevant code

[olive bear]

https://github.com/search?q=repo%3AIAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader onBundlesFinishedLoading&type=code everywhere this gets invoked is commented out

[zenith flax]

Ohhhh

Yup big oversight sorry

the individual ones are fixed but the overall one is moved somewhere else, ill fix that up for oyu

[olive bear]

thanks

[maiden valley]

poolrooms also dont

and it exploded in 1.4.0

[zenith flax]

it should tho

[maiden valley]

i mean

id love to do that

idk if its in his scope tho

[unique geode]

Does Poolrooms do the same thing SDM does?

[maiden valley]

umm

idk what sdm does but poolrooms doesnt use lethalbundles

it just manually loads the assets from the blank bundles thru code

[unique geode]

So Poolrooms is probably breaking for the same reason SDM is

[maiden valley]

prolly yeah

[unique geode]

Cus it's doing the same thing SDM does

It will be fixed next hotfix probably, Batby is cooking up a large hotfix atm

[maiden valley]

@zenith flax did you ever figure out why my mod has been occasionally throwing bundle errors when pulling lever
butterystancakes also had the issue when testing it
it seems inconsistent but usually happens when loading onto a save file already routed onto the moon for the first time after launching

idk if its like

only a me issue

or if its happening everywhere

this mess

[zenith flax]

see if it still happens next update

[maiden valley]

alr

its like

not a huge deal

u can just restart the lobby to fix it

but it is a bit annoying ig

[zenith flax]

LethalLevelLoader 1.4.3

• Fixed issue with onBundlesFinishedLoading callback not being invoked
• Re-wrote AssetBundle Hotloading networking to hopefully improve issues in multiplayer and pre-existing saves
• Fixed issue with custom content that is manually registered not being processed correctly

ah shit i just broke multiplayer one sec

[unique geode]

You got this Batby 🙏

[zenith flax]

LethalLevelLoader 1.4.4

• Fixed additional networking issues related to AssetBundle Hotloading

[unique geode]

[zenith flax]

@maiden valley should hopefully work now?

[maiden valley]

uwu

[zenith flax]

LethalLevelLoader 1.4.5

• Fixed issue where SpawnSyncedObjects in Tile Injection TileSets were not being network registered

@whole mortar 😡

[whole mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-emoji-disintegrating-emoji-disappearing-meme-21st-century-gif-24891417

[crisp galleon]

Not sure if you’d know anything about this but since LLL’s been updating maybe this was it. Just did a session on 1.4.1 and only I (host) could land the ship according to my friends. I can get logs if you’d like. Just not sure if Vanilla maybe changed something or if one of the recent hotfixes already might’ve covered that.

[zenith flax]

will probably be fixed now

i've tried to atleast

[crisp galleon]

Aight. We might play again in a day or two so I’ll let you know if it isn’t :)

[slow kraken]

I havent noticed any major issues, just the lever thingy

[humble comet]

why do i feel like the 20 failed generation thingy appears more often after 1.4.0

[zenith flax]

nope

[hollow rivet]

the new lethallevelloader update breaks your mod

[humble comet]

yuh it seems like some interior being sensitive with bigger map

[zenith flax]

Don’t talk here thanks

[weary star]

We played today and the lever isn't fixed, it wasn't letting anyone but the host land it. We also did some testing with removing a few mods to see and it's not base game, it appears to be LLL

[plush wing]

I don't understand that because vanilla doesn't let clients start the game when you first launch the lobby.

[plush wing]

[tall kindle]

add it to your project

[spiral siren]

it's probably a package no? is it not a dependency of netcode for game objects?

[plush wing]

You can kinda say that

[mellow flame]

Is it safe to implement the latest lll version into my project

[plush wing]

You can make a branch where you can implement and only merge with main when you consider it safe enough.

[mellow flame]

i havent even uploaded my project to github how do I do that

[spiral siren]

you can do it locally, but if you're not familiar with git it will take some learning

[tall kindle]

No idea honestly

[north vigil]

heyo asked yesterday but how would I go about accessing my assetbundle now? seems the old assetbundles dictionary doesn't work now and I have an item I load in using LethalLib as loading it in with LLL broke the store. I know I could seperate the one item into its own bundle and load it that way, but that makes more of a clutter imo, and I can't load the same assetbundle twice or I get an error

nevermind, fixed it by moving that code snipped to OnAssedBundleLoaded rather than OnExtendedModRegistered

also not sure if it's intended or not but OnExtendedModRegistered seems to get called twice now, at least for me

it's why I was getting the error telling me the key was already in the dictionary

easily fixable by just adding in a check to make sure its only loaded once but yeah, thought I'd let you know in case it's not meant to happen like that

[unique geode]

They probably have a mod like GI that lets clients pull the lever and that no longer works, but I doubt that is on LLL to fix tbh

LLL implements a whole new system and it likely just overrides whatever GI was doing lol

But yeah clients not being able to pull the lever before first landing the ship is definitely vanilla

[maiden valley]

this still happens on the latest version when loading onto a save already routed onto a moon xp

im assuming its because like

it doesnt account for the sceneselections thing that LLL has?

just a guess

but incase its relevant this is how the levels are loaded on my mod

ignore the vanillasceneevent stuff

thats for config

again; not a huge deal

reloading the save fixes it

this only happens on first lobby for some reason

[crisp galleon]

So it seems like there's been some work on old interior support and it does seem LC_Office is back to working, but I think https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1206390977674354738 might still be broken so something might not be fully fixed (Sorry if this has already been discussed). I can get a whole log but the segment where it happens is here:

[20:35:44.1787153] [Debug  :CustomStoryLogs] Added new log [RosiesMoons/routing] with ID [-1945026563]
[20:35:44.1787153] [Info   :RosiesMoons] RosiesMoons v0.0.1 has loaded!
[20:35:44.1787153] [Info   :   BepInEx] Loading [PoolRooms 0.1.22]
[20:35:44.1977704] [Error  : Unity Log] TypeLoadException: Could not resolve type with token 0100002f from typeref (expected class 'ParameterEvent' in assembly '')
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type)
BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:Start()
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipelineAsset:OnEnable()

All goes fine right up to that interior.

[unique geode]

This happens whenever a client joins when you're routed to a custom moon, even if you freshly reload the save.

[oblique spoke]

hi i'm a client, sending this in case it helps 👍

[unique geode]

@feral pecan Have you been looking into this btw? This might relate to the stuff Batby had mentioned regarding late joins

Workaround for now is to just route to a different moon

[ember shore]

Alright
Not sure if this is only specific to distinctmoons but it looks like if you route to a moon that comes from the same assetbundle as the one you're routing from, LLL will just unload the bundle and if you try to land you get hit with a softlock

And yes routing into a vanilla moon or a moon from a different bundle beforehand can be used to avoid the softlock

[clever bear]

Happens on Generic's Moons too

[digital breach]

double checking here just in-case, is there any easy way to get an extendedlevel's config properties? Trying to honor this [config item from LLL](#1180739684654121091 message) but not sure how to check it at run-time. It looks like all the config item actually does is remove the compatiblenoun from the route keyword https://github.com/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/blob/78dbaceecc915fe84552a57b1efb9eb47c7870e5/LethalLevelLoader/Tools/ConfigLoader.cs#L194

I'm not seeing something like TryGetExtendedLevelConfig unfortunately :/

I guess i'll try to write my own by trying to find all ExtendedLevelConfig instances at run-time

[north geyser]

where would the config for LLL be? because it's not in my config/bepinx files

[quiet stream]

it'll generate once you start up a save

[north geyser]

i have and still can't find it

[quiet stream]

otherwise it should just be in the config folder

[north geyser]

it's not for me whats the name of the file it self

[plush wing]

Are you sure that it's being loaded?

[north geyser]

i don't know tbh im new to modding this game

[plush wing]

Logs would state if it's loading or not.

[north geyser]

ok let me check'

Skipping loading C:\Users\dwadw\AppData\Roaming\Thunderstore Mod Manager\DataFolder\LethalCompany\profiles\solo 2.0\BepInEx\plugins\IAmBatby-LethalLevelLoader\LethalLevelLoader.dll because it's not a valid .NET assembly. Full error: Format of the executable (.exe) or library (.dll) is invalid.

so i dont think it is

no it not loading so how would i fix that

[zenith flax]

fix for mods using 1 bundle for multiple scenes tonight

[north geyser]

?

ok got it thank you

[plush wing]

Where did you download it btw? Through the mod manager?

[north geyser]

its was in my modpack should i reinstall it?

[plush wing]

Well somehow it got fucked to not be considered a valid .dll.

[north geyser]

yeah

[digital breach]

realizing I can't do this 😭

[north geyser]

BepInEx] Loading [LethalLevelLoader 1.4.5] i reninstalled it so i think its fixed

[zenith flax]

I’ll move it to a function in terminalmanager

(?)

[plush wing]

Yeah, now you should be able to see a config when you boot up a save.

[north geyser]

i have it now

this is all in here

[digital breach]

that would be gucci, or even if you just stored a static list of ExtendedLevelConfig I can get what I need. Just realized that they aren't attached to game objects so FindObjectOfType doesn't work for me

[north geyser]

but i need to join a lobby rq

i have this now and i know this is when a mod isnt working

[digital breach]

I was thinking of just postfixing your BindConfigs method to create my own list. But would def prefer not patching into LLL

[digital breach]

for help with troubleshooting your mod list I'd recommend going here and posting your logs https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1169069074572116041

[digital breach]

actually, I think this will work for the time being

basically doing the inverse of what you do when reading the config

still might be useful to expose the ExtendedLevelConfig class for each moon but that's up to you

[maiden valley]

regarding this, im going to try adding a postfix to manually fix this on my end

im thinking of doing a quickmenumanager.start postfix to iterate through the bundles and do TryLoadBundle() if the ship is routed to a vanilla moon already

[zenith flax]

I wanna fix on mu end

[maiden valley]

would you prefer me just not do anything

i can wait

i just wouldnt mind trying to accommodate

[olive bear]

heya batby. I spent a while trying to figure out what was wrong with one of my projects it seems like the lists of content in PatchedContent aren't populated anymore at the time that the bundles loaded event fires. (thank you for fixing that yesterday) PatchedContent.ExtendedLevels returns and empty list at the time of the event being fired. It seems like the new update populates these lists on first lobby load, which prevents some stuff from working correctly as it did before.

[zenith flax]

oh hmm

ok i will take a look at that

@maiden valley it should be my fault

but if ur doing weird shit to make it your fault id prefer to give you the right way now that im updating stuff

ideally if you could refresh me on what lll is missing sceneselection wise and/or how you'd prefer i handle stuff i would appreciate that

No promises but in general I do wanna network a lot more of LLL now that i am a lot more experienced in it

[maiden valley]

I have no idea if its the fault of the sceneselection stuff itself but like

im jsut assuming it is

because with my mod if you load onto a save already routed to the vanilla moon it doesn't load the assetbundle

im assuming that's because im running sceneselection stuff after LLL does its thing?

this is all i can really show you

i dont think im doing anything "wrong"

[zenith flax]

Heard chef

Also just in general if anyone has any smaller feature requests get them on github issues asap while i’m still in a LLL updatie mood 😛

also another no promises thing but just vibes is one of the potential fundable projects i might offer is a full remake of LLL's config stuff w/ lethal config support or something

i feel like people might be into that

[digital breach]

are ya looking at old ones too? #153 is a pretty small suggestion

[zenith flax]

heard

[tall kindle]

didnt see it mentioned, was teh store item list getting fucky or whatever happened with LLL store items on lobby reloads ever get fixed?

i know some people switch from LLL to LL when registering store items cuz of it

by some i do mean just reindog as a freshexample lol

[zenith flax]

Maybe I'm going crazy but I don't remember getting a consistent isolated report of it

I could be super wrong

Reindog was doing some weird shit I gotta help him out when i get the chance

[tall kindle]

it's been a while back and the logs are probably buriedby now but i think reindog was sending logs of it, but yeah

afaik the repro he got was just leaving and re-entering the save and then it'd be gone from the shop

[zenith flax]

alright i will look into it

[tall kindle]

tanks

[zenith flax]

oh and @maiden valley so sorry but poolrooms needs to be recompiled

i thought it was only borozos and scarlet

no code changes needed just recompile w/ 1.4.0+

oh and another thing im probably gonna add soon is a function & class that lets people easily setup network singletons

so you'll just make a class inherting from like

NetworkedManagerBase : NetworkBehaviour

and then tell me about it on main menu or smth

and it'll spawn and despawn every lobby

[maiden valley]

sure

[zenith flax]

will look into properlly later but i might have figured it out maybe

fingers crossed

[tall kindle]

[zenith flax]

enemies are chilling LLL wise right?

[tall kindle]

yeah didnt notice any problems when i was messing with that a while back

[unique geode]

scratch this @zenith flax we also had this happen when someone joined while hovering the Company so it's any moon, but like I said routing to a different moon luckily fixes it for now ^^

Definitely problematic if you're hovering a paid moon and someone joins though

lol

But it at least doesn't soft lock the lobby

[zenith flax]

As mentioned previously I am not looking into your reports

[gaunt hinge]

Oh yeah this is something me and S1ckboy ran into like an hour ago while testing some stuff
Don't have any logs to back this up myself rn though

[unique geode]

If you have Async Loggers in your test pack the SQLite might still contain the stuff needed, although idk if Batby would read it

[zenith flax]

are you sure homie

i don't think that list was populated at that time previously

LethalLevelLoader 1.4.6

• Added ExtendedLevel.IsRouteRemoved to indicate if Level has been disabled in the config
• Fixed issue with AssetBundle hotloading when routing from a moon to a moon contained in the same AssetBundle
• Added additional safety check when performing Audio related Asset restoration
• Changed ExtendedItem terminal registration to ensure accurate item Ids
• Fixed an issue with Locked ExtendedLevel's by setting it's accossiated TerminalNode.acceptEverything to false

@digital breach 2 4 U

[digital breach]

Ws, thanks 🫡

[zenith flax]

@gaunt hinge maybe this helps with that one thing

[maiden valley]

love the hustle batby

[zenith flax]

You should check if ur stuff is not broke

[zenith flax]

6 hours no reports is ideal so far

[whole mortar]

Bugs slumber when the dev is awake

[silent plume]

Bug report, custom settings in Dungeon Injection Settings - Manual Level Names List section for both Melanie Interior interiors are ignored entirely.

checked on both my own modpack and a fresh empty profile with only those 2+dependencies, tried to roll back LLL and Mel's interiors, nothing works so far

no issues with other interior mods either its just this one

[unique geode]

If even LLL 1.3.13 didn't work then it would be Melanie not listing a dependency, cus I know for a fact it worked for me with 1.3.13 at least

I just have no idea what she might not have included lol

[silent plume]

ig she will just have to check that when shes got time

[unique geode]

Any errors in your log about a missing dependency?

[silent plume]

wait...

omg

never mind

im just dumb

I just didnt tell the LLL to put any of the settings into consideration

sorry my bad

[unique geode]

OOF

[silent plume]

yeah

[jagged juniper]

Why was LLL doin' fine till like 3 updates ago and started actin funky, is this a new implementation?

[crisp galleon]

Custom content has always hogged RAM but recently there was an LLL update to unload moons from RAM until you orbit them. Basically, attempt at a big performance and optimization boost but with any big update there's almost always some issue.

[jagged juniper]

If you guys actually manage to pull that off I will love you

like I actually hate the amount of resources used

[chrome notch]

it's already done. that's what the update is

[fallow pagoda]

1.4.6 isn't working for me, but i'll try to see if it's an issue with another mod

i've got a modpack w/ only wesley’s moons/interiors

found the problem! apparently some other mod was effecting it, not sure which one though

[strange trail]

im not sure if that really works from the get go, from a quick boot of my modpack, it still uses around 16 gigs of ram on both versions before 1.4 and above

[crisp galleon]

Hmm… It does require moons to be set up a certain way but a lot of newer ones already are. I think I did have a difference but maybe not too much, though I wasn’t testing with a lot of moons.

[acoustic sonnet]

Moon mods need to be set up properly to use it

So a bunch need to update

To actually have a differance

[strange trail]

ah right, hopefully they wont take long

but from what im understanding, if a lot of moon mods do update, the small amount that didnt wont be that much of an issue then?

cuz thats still cool

[acoustic sonnet]

Ye, unupdated mods will work just wont have benifits

[strange trail]

nice nice nice, gonna wait for a week or two before I test again

thanks a bunch

[acoustic sonnet]

Tho keep in mind 16 gb isnt ideal(you had mentioned it above)

32 is best for having a shit ton of moon mods

Tho 16 is fine if you decide carefully what you got

[strange trail]

nah I know, I have 32, and the game does use either 16 gigs or above as it is already lmao

[acoustic sonnet]

Ahhh

[strange trail]

I use like, 3-4 large moon packs so ig its understandable

wesley, generic, altmoons and otherworldly moons

I shouldnt be surprised its so resource heavy I suppose

[acoustic sonnet]

Me looking back at my 100+ moons 😩

[strange trail]

christ

LOL

[acoustic sonnet]

I like mooning

[strange trail]

I would do that but like, I dont like seeing 27 gigs out of 32 used up even now, its kinda monka

I dont dare adding more than what I have

this one modded game is more ram heavy than hosting a 10 player AllTheMods 9 minecraft server

[acoustic sonnet]

I cant get my modpack for mc to not generate 1 cgunk per min

Idk why my pc hates modded mc

Like as soon as I add a few content mods

Chunk gen fucks

[wet vortex]

it also doesn't affect every mod iirc

atm it only works on moons so pretty much everything else that uses assetbundles will still hog ram (if i understand correctly)

[zenith flax]

Correct

Moons are scene based which by design are super compartmentalised which makes them easy to open and close

Stuff like interiors would need a lot more time and effort

[wet vortex]

scraps/enemies/hazards would probably be even harder right

[zenith flax]

Honestly easier but they are generally less size intensive

interiors would interest me because their the second of the two big fish

But also need to consider you only ever load up 1 moon but i’d need to juggle multiple interiors

its about two steam decks worth of labour lol

[wet vortex]

cus interiors are determined at the seed screen right

so if u were to do hot reloading it would have to be when the game is already loading the scene

[zenith flax]

The correct interior is decided on lever pull but i do know all the possible ones on route change. I’d either have to ensure every option is preloaded or find a safe way to secretly pre-predict the interior before you pull

[wet vortex]

so would that be along the lines of
level selected -> load all possible interiors into ram -> lever pulled (interior selected) -> unload interiors that weren't selected

unless you can predict which one it'll be?

[zenith flax]

@soft eagle taking the tiniest break but i have a bunch of unfinished work on a now “”scrapped””” 1.4.0 LLL including data tags that i’ll look at and see what I wanna re-implement. If I decide I don’t wanna do data tags rn i’ll def add that attribute for you

I think it was mostly working just a little tricky to convince unity to port over the pre-existing colour tags

God I wish i could do mod breaking changes

[zenith flax]

Yes but i’d preload on route change, before lever pull

[wet vortex]

gotcha

i imagine there is some way to get the information from the game which interior was chosen, and then prevent the generation until the bundle is loaded

[zenith flax]

Too many issues with that

I promise 😝

[wet vortex]

thought so

[zenith flax]

It breaks the rules of being an api (similar to simulate command) but I’ve been kinda pondering about adding terminal logs for interiors

[digital breach]

hey batby, I think I broke something in LLL's lever pull patch. Got this report today

[zenith flax]

Do you mess with the lever at all

[digital breach]

nah, I'll show you the relevant code that affects starting moon/constellation https://github.com/darmuh/LethalConstellations/blob/dcded4afd3bde176e1dc4c8fab6e2f71064affef/LethalConstellations/PluginCore/SaveManager.cs#L90

[zenith flax]

I’ll look later then

The lever code is kinda fucked i might remake it tonight

[digital breach]

yeah no worries, just figured i'd let you know. I took a peek at your patches and have a feeling it's NetworkBundleManager.AllowedToLoadLevel not getting updated properly but that's just a guess of mine

my code uses StartOfRound.Instance.ChangeLevelServerRpc to change the level

[zenith flax]

Ohhh you

Ok

Heard

[digital breach]

🫡

[zenith flax]

I also wanna add a feature that no one has explicitly suggested but something that should have been in LLL way sooner and will improve stuff a ton

🥰

[main ravine]

The ability to change the day length of moons properly no wayyyy

-# 😛

[young acorn]

what is the feature

[warped rose]

My group's still having issues with being unable to pull the lever in 1.4.6, even after a few restarts and waiting a long time

[zenith flax]

This might be ScarletDevilMansion? @hexed mesa does this massive error in here usually happen?

[hexed mesa]

did i

im serializing some things I shouldn't be

bad

but, weirdly enough, I was testing with my friends earlier and we didn't have any issues

[crisp galleon]

I would’ve joked about moon text on the front terminal scrolling but since another mod’s got that I’ll quit pestering Batby about it 🙃

[hexed mesa]

please try removing my mod (ScarletDevilMansion) and continue playing with your group, if it's fixed you can yell at me

[zenith flax]

it could be unrelated to the lever pulling it just seemed big enough to maybe be a problem

[hexed mesa]

lel

[warped rose]

It could have been a fluke because we stopped last night when the lever was broken, hoping that 1.4.6 would fix it today. We hadn't moved planets.

Routing somewhere else worked fine. If it happens again, I'll take off SDM and see if that fixes anything. Thanks.

[hexed mesa]

In case it was me, pushing a fix

[quiet stream]

patch mod out for that but this'd be goated asf

[main ravine]

this is more to tease batby instead of a real suggestion lol

[cold rapids]

random question sorry but is there a tag for modded moons?

like do i do Mod:300 or Modded:300 ?

[abstract bobcat]

Custom

[cold rapids]

thanks boss!

[crisp galleon]

I don’t think it’s SDM. Had it happen with my group. We’d disconnected to fix my mic issue and also to let someone else in then when we tried to land on a moon of mine we were routed to the game hung. Relaunching again it had the message of waiting for someone to load the moon. Routing off and back fixed it. Not sure if it’s related or not but they can’t land the ship anywhere, only I as the host can. I know I should’ve grabbed the logs but it just slipped my mind.

[sullen coral]

So what does a moon creator have to do, if anything, to be compatible and optimized when it comes to the new Asset Bundle system?

Also, unrelated note: are these supposed to say could not have been made? lmao

[abstract bobcat]

#1329604473667981443 message

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[sullen coral]

Got it, I think I follow, thanks Endox

I believe Sick and I have worked on this for Gorgonzola but not USC Vortex

[steady ingot]

gonna check later today

[rich hatch]

Hello, is LethalLevelLoader working atm? Whenever I try landing on moons it doesn't open the door and it doesn't let me take off again.

[crisp galleon]

It does work though there’s been some issues I’ve seen like only host being able to land and returning to a save you can’t land without first routing to a new moon then back. So perhaps there’s also another mod you’ve got that’s conflicting? Maybe post the mod profile code and/or logs.

[rich hatch]

Had trouble trying to figure out how to get the logs, but the code is 01948493-8bf3-3287-f4e8-22fe9d65f3d2. I trimmed down on about 30 mods since the issue started but I just couldn't find it, which is why I thought maybe it was the level loader

[acoustic sonnet]

intro tweaks

thats the issue

[rich hatch]

I'll test it out and see if that works

[acoustic sonnet]

It breaks LLL(the intro it skips is where LLL sets up its mods)

[slim wind]

oh no

don't use that

no

[rich hatch]

I uninstalled it but unfortunately I'm still having the same issue with the door not opening

[rich hatch]

I found the issue finally, it was the Lethal Posters mod

[steady ingot]

#general-chat message

actually encountered the issue tonight too, changed the moon to one of Wesley’s before he joined and with Imperium and couldnt pull the lever, had the reroute to another moon and back so we could go there. Also idk if this is a imperium + lll incompat but for him it was eclipsed while for me it was none weather. The second isnt a huge problem if it is, but the first is definitely a problem child since people are experiencing that in regular game session. You can imagine if a late joiner joins and they are trying to go to a high cost moon and the game just doesnt let them -> waste of money. Didnt see anything in the logs, tho I was the host. Sorry for the vague report, but Im also writing this half-asleep

[zenith flax]

logs would be nice if you have them and/or if you see it again

[crisp galleon]

Did you relaunch the lobby to let him in or was it through a mod that allowed late joining? In my case we’d quit and relaunched the save iirc and there was still this issue. I hadn’t really thought of if you’d been on a paid moon though for some reason but yeah that could be a bit bad.

Also, no Imperium.

[steady ingot]

It wasnt late joining, started a fresh lobby, changed the weather and moon, he joined -> stuck in orbit until we switched to another moon and back

We were testing things but I was changing moon before he joined basically, it shouldnt be a problem tho

[crisp galleon]

Got it

[maiden valley]

batby im sorry but

my issue has still not been fixed lol

[zenith flax]

Hesrd

Heard

[maiden valley]

do we vibe with this batby

[zenith flax]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-bee-meme-goofy-ahh-bee-meme-sus-bee-meme-smirk-smirk-goofy-ahh-pictures-bee-sus-gif-27636585

[smoky ocean]

I heard you dropped new LLL update

[zenith flax]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-basketball-shoot-gif-16307238

[autumn pollen]

LLL is catching up to LE in download count

this api is one of the most talented things to grace lethal company

[quiet marlin]

i was told to mention this here instead of the help and troubleshooting chat
ive been making a modpack for my friends to use and such and have been progressively adding more and more like, content like moons, interiors, and items
everything has been working fine aside from a majority of the interior mods that ive been installing, i probably have like 9 or 10 seperate interior mods and only about 3 are actually showing up regularly
i can link the pack im using if needed

the interiors that ARE working are Dantors Mental Hospital, Office Dungeon, and Slaughterhouse
Literally every other interior mod that I have doesn't work and the only consistent thing between them is that I think they all use lethal level loader while the ones that DO work don't (like the ones above), while the CastleGrounds mod by Realestudios or the mc stronghold map

Im not sure if im setting something up wrong but honestly I really wanna get these to work because the interiors look so sick, if I need to provide any more info just @ me

[acoustic sonnet]

you gotta set interior spawn chances

btw do not reccomend dantors atm

[quiet marlin]

whats up w/ that

[acoustic sonnet]

fairly unstable and laggy atm

and scrap spawns are buggy

[quiet marlin]

fair i was having issues

[acoustic sonnet]

for interios spawn chases you can set them in LLL's cfg

[quiet marlin]

that being said though atleast it was actually showing up hence using it as an example here

[acoustic sonnet]

or Lethal quantities or Central config

[quiet marlin]

i saw that when i tried looking up a fix but i couldnt get it to work right/ dont really understand what i have to do exactly

[quiet marlin]

what do these do

[acoustic sonnet]

they also let you ste spawn chances

[quiet marlin]

oh word

[acoustic sonnet]

all 3 work these 2 just have more options

[quiet marlin]

they work with LLL interiors?

[acoustic sonnet]

there arent any other interiors so yes haha

[quiet marlin]

oh yeha

whats easier 2 use

/ more user friendly

[acoustic sonnet]

here is the deal, Quantities is a lil obtuse and weird but easier overall to use, while central config is more polished but not beginner friendly

[hollow rivet]

I use lethallevelloader for interior spawn chances on moons and I use central config for scrap spawn chances. I also use central config for monster spawns.

[acoustic sonnet]

LLL cfg is inbetween

[quiet marlin]

trying lethal quantities rn but whats the way to change spawn chances in LLL?

in the config

i looked in the config earlier but couldnt find it but also im blind

[acoustic sonnet]

ye, you select the registered interior, enable content configuration for said interior, then set spawn chances

quantites doesnt use the cfg manager, it uses its own website

[quiet marlin]

yeah im seeing that

[hollow rivet]

For moon interiors you change this config in there "Dungeon Injection Settings - Manual Level Names List"

Which is just the moon name

[quiet marlin]

thats with LLL"s own config? or for lethal quantities? im just gonna use LLL's own probably

[hollow rivet]

Ex: Experimentation:100,Assurance:100,Vow:100,Offense:100,March:100

[quiet marlin]

oh wow i have to do it all manually like that

[hollow rivet]

Yeah

Its nice to use a spread sheet though

[quiet marlin]

i have mods that add like 20 moons im so cooked

[hollow rivet]

I got 81 😢

[acoustic sonnet]

you could also do Vanilla:100, Custom:100

[quiet marlin]

i have to add that for each interior though right?

soryr im a bit stupid

[hollow rivet]

Vanilla:(Number) sets the value for all vanilla moons and Custom:(Number) sets the value for all modded moons.

[quiet marlin]

oh nah i meant like, am i gonna have to specify for each interior?

[acoustic sonnet]

ye

[quiet marlin]

or is it just putting that in somewhere and it works universally

oh

😭

but just to clarify i can do this within just the LLL config file

[hollow rivet]

The config for each interior gets generated like this

[quiet marlin]

yeyeyeye im there rn

[acoustic sonnet]

120 moons + 55 interiors 😅

[quiet marlin]

how do u guys even run that LOL

[hollow rivet]

ez

[quiet marlin]

so just this but spam it for each interior right

[acoustic sonnet]

the new LLL update massivly improved performance haha

[hollow rivet]

Mostly optimizing

[acoustic sonnet]

also a gaming pc

[hollow rivet]

Yeah that will set everything to have a equal spawn chance

[quiet marlin]

ye word i have a 4060ti but with my pack sometimes i dip into the 40s

rarely tho

[quiet marlin]

ima try this and report back if it works or not

[hollow rivet]

I got a 3050 and somehow I get 90+ fps on my 222 mod modpack.

[quiet marlin]

yeah i mean most of the time im pulling like 100-110 but on some peter griffin moon it dips into the 50s and 40s like how

[hollow rivet]

Yeah its mostly moons that aren't optimized.

[quiet marlin]

yeah 😭

[acoustic sonnet]

total pack rn is 250 mods

[hollow rivet]

Damn

[quiet marlin]

damn wtf

[quiet marlin]

im not sure if im doing it wrong but i did this for a few of the interior mods and this is what the simulation thing shows in game

will it not show up here? or did i do smthing wrong

[hollow rivet]

send your modpack code

[quiet marlin]

alrighty

01948a59-3d6d-f489-dcd7-08701bc5a07e

[acoustic sonnet]

if you did this with quantities simulate isnt accurate

[quiet marlin]

i did it w/ LLL's own config

[hollow rivet]

You forgot to enable content configuration.

[quiet marlin]

facepalm

what application is that btw

im using r2 modman i thought that was the norm

whatever ur using looks a lot more user friendly than this 😭

[crisp galleon]

This is level names (so specific moons). There should be one for tags that you can do this in though

[acoustic sonnet]

gale mod manager

also has faster downloads

and less bugs

[quiet marlin]

switching rn

[quiet marlin]

im confused, was i doing it correctly ?

[hollow rivet]

Gale is 100000000x better

[crisp galleon]

“Vanilla:100,Custom:100” goes in the dynamic level tags list not the manual level names

[quiet marlin]

ohhhhhh

[crisp galleon]

Because those aren’t moon names, but they are tags

[quiet marlin]

should i remove it from the manual level names then, will that mess up stuff

yeah i understand now

[crisp galleon]

Yeah, should be fine to just remove it from there

[quiet marlin]

baller

testing now

shits working now, thank you guys so much genuinely i was losing my mind at this for like 2 hours

[acoustic sonnet]

will also say that castle and sewer are jank ask atm

they are getting a remake tho

[quiet marlin]

oh bet

[acoustic sonnet]

there are a lot of other great interiors tho(many much better than MC woodland mansion haha)

[quiet marlin]

any u reccomend specifically?

[quiet marlin]

i just cut that one actually 😭

[acoustic sonnet]

ignore poolrooms and scoopy's(broken), also ignore tartarosu(working but next update will make it actually worth using)

[quiet marlin]

damnnn what i just saw tartarus i thought that was so cool

[acoustic sonnet]

If you saw teaser for it then that stuffs not in the mod yet

it will be by next update

its mostly just a test rn

[quiet marlin]

nah i just thought the concept was cool

[acoustic sonnet]

as of public release

[quiet marlin]

i didnt see any teaser

still though

[shrewd gorge]

hey guys, potentially silly question, but in the config files what does "Enemy Settings - Maximum Inside Enemy Power Count" mean? is this like the max number of enemies that can spawn inside? Or how much damage they do? I'm not entirely sure.

[oblique spoke]

An extremely oversimplified answer would be the former but there's a bit more to it than that

Every monster has a power level that determines how much of that enemy power count it takes up

6 power would mean the power count would be maxed out at 2 thumpers (3 power each) or like

6 snare fleas

Once there's enough enemies to take up the entirety of a moon's indoor power no more enemies will spawn inside until one or more of them somehow gets killed

This is probably a shit explanation but y'know

some enemies count as more to that count than others

[nimble umbra]

@zenith flax what is new in LLL besides this hot load stuff?

something new in moon making?

new features?

[steady ingot]

#1329604473667981443

[nimble umbra]

i mean, except hot load

[steady ingot]

other than that nope at least not yet

[crisp galleon]

There's some override noun thing that I think is new, but I've not looked into it #1193461151636398080 message

[nimble umbra]

i was looking into custom footsteps or something

[rough escarp]

i wonder how many moons already adhered to the hot reloading shtuff

[steady ingot]

funny enough I havent

[whole mortar]

#1193461151636398080 message

I have taken a look at the inner workings of footsteps in vanilla

[nimble umbra]

💀

[whole mortar]

(It's not actually THAT bad, just really annoying to pull off custom footsteps from an API standpoint lol)

[rough escarp]

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bbb-b-b-bbut you are supposed to be the moon optimizer guy!

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-simpsons-the-simpsons-scary-gif-6382225295895828491

[whole mortar]

Yeah I was wondering if anyone's been keeping a list somewhere lol

Also kinda wish there was a way to tell if hot-reloading's implemented properly on a moon, other than looking at RAM differences I guess

[steady ingot]

[rough escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/remoovdgb-dog-loves-lettuce-gif-14648923

[shrewd gorge]

wow thank you so much! Finding info on this sorta stuff has been kinda hard lol. is there a way to see how much power each monster has?

[crisp galleon]

I think the Fandom wiki has that

Just like look up Lethal Company entities through a search engine

[shrewd gorge]

ahh I see. im stupid lol. thanks

[snow lotus]

does anyone know how to blacklist interior from spawning on a specific moon if the interior has Dynamic level tags list set to Vanilla:50,Custom:50? Like for an example I don't want any interiors other than *ZeranosFacility * on Zeranos? I tried setting the manual injection tag list to Zeranos:0 but that didn't work as higher values override the lower ones.

i really don't want to configure all interior weights manually for each moon 😭

[zenith flax]

i'll be looking into the current lll issues soon just need the tiniest break from staring at it, apologies for the inconvience

[crisp galleon]

All good. I’m pretty sure staring at code has diminishing returns when it comes to identifying bugs

[tall kindle]

@zenith flax disabled LLL on second clip where I couldnt immediately pull the lever, I could try this with a custom moon or provide logs if you need, it could also be one of like 10 other mods that got disabled in my debugging modpack cuz i disabled LLL lol

[zenith flax]

heard

[tall kindle]

almost forgot, if you need i could put it down as a github issue

[tall kindle]

[04:23:56.3599268] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Unity.Netcode.NetworkList`1[T].MarkNetworkObjectDirty () (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0034)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkList`1[T].HandleAddListEvent (Unity.Netcode.NetworkListEvent`1[T] listEvent) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_000D)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkList`1[T].Clear () (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0040)
LethalLevelLoader.NetworkBundleManager.ResetPlayerLoadStatusListServerRpc () (at ./Patches/NetworkBundleManager.cs:115)
LethalLevelLoader.NetworkBundleManager.__rpc_handler_4263354179 (Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour target, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader reader, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams rpcParams) (at <c93ee79cf5424e16b73157998e177a54>:IL_007B)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers.Handle (Unity.Netcode.NetworkContext& context, Unity.Netcode.RpcMetadata& metadata, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader& payload, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams& rpcParams) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_004E)
Rethrow as Exception: Unhandled RPC exception!
UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers:Handle(NetworkContext&, RpcMetadata&, FastBufferReader&, __RpcParams&)
Unity.Netcode.ServerRpcMessage:Handle(NetworkContext&)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour:__endSendServerRpc(FastBufferWriter&, UInt32, ServerRpcParams, RpcDelivery)
LethalLevelLoader.NetworkBundleManager:ResetPlayerLoadStatusListServerRpc() (at ./Patches/NetworkBundleManager.cs:114)
LethalLevelLoader.NetworkBundleManager:OnClientsChangedRefresh() (at ./Patches/NetworkBundleManager.cs:99)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches:StartOfRoundOnClientDisconnect_Postfix() (at ./General/Patches.cs:664)
StartOfRound:OnClientDisconnect(UInt64)
GameNetworkManager:Singleton_OnClientDisconnectCallback(UInt64)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager:OnClientDisconnectFromServer(UInt64)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager:DisconnectRemoteClient(UInt64)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager:Shutdown()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager:ShutdownInternal()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager:NetworkUpdate(NetworkUpdateStage)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateLoop:RunNetworkUpdateStage(NetworkUpdateStage)
Unity.Netcode.<>c:<CreateLoopSystem>b__0_0()

[04:23:56.3609455] [Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Reseting PlayerLoadStatus List!
[04:23:56.3614534] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Unity.Netcode.NetworkList`1[T].MarkNetworkObjectDirty () (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0034)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkList`1[T].HandleAddListEvent (Unity.Netcode.NetworkListEvent`1[T] listEvent) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_000D)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkList`1[T].Clear () (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0040)
LethalLevelLoader.NetworkBundleManager.ResetPlayerLoadStatusListServerRpc () (at ./Patches/NetworkBundleManager.cs:115)
LethalLevelLoader.NetworkBundleManager.OnClientsChangedRefresh () (at ./Patches/NetworkBundleManager.cs:99)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches.StartOfRoundOnClientDisconnect_Postfix () (at ./General/Patches.cs:664)
StartOfRound.OnClientDisconnect (System.UInt64 clientId) (at <bdf6a080e98a49fd84b92b24894f768c>:IL_030F)
GameNetworkManager.Singleton_OnClientDisconnectCallback (System.UInt64 clientId) (at <bdf6a080e98a49fd84b92b24894f768c>:IL_0143)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager.OnClientDisconnectFromServer (System.UInt64 clientId) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0235)
UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager:OnClientDisconnectFromServer(UInt64)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager:DisconnectRemoteClient(UInt64)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager:Shutdown()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager:ShutdownInternal()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager:NetworkUpdate(NetworkUpdateStage)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateLoop:RunNetworkUpdateStage(NetworkUpdateStage)
Unity.Netcode.<>c:<CreateLoopSystem>b__0_0()

saw these errors with someone in #modding-general , they have the full log in there

#modding-general message

[zenith flax]

thank you

[rough escarp]

hi higuruma

[serene light]

Do the asset bundle changes affect interiors, enemies and scrap or just moons?

I’d assume just moons but thought I’d ask anyway

[vernal girder]

1.4.6 breaks if players leave/join midgame. Rehosting fixes the issue.
The break is that the ship lever stops working.

Reverting to 1.4.5. fixes the issue so it's specific to 1.4.6.
It doesn't seem to be a conflict with other mods as tested with a minimal mod list and just LLL results in the same issue.

Root cause of the issue appears to be in an error thrown in ResetPlayerLoadStatusListServerRpc when a player leaves the game.

[zenith flax]

can i get that error

[crisp galleon]

Aren’t you not supposed to be able to pull lever until you’re orbiting or am I misunderstanding?

[tall kindle]

you're not supposed to be able to interact with the lever while it's changing levels

LLL (assumingly) makes it so you can interact and do the animation, but nothing else really

i accidently have the clips the other way around if thats whats confusing you

first clip is LLL disabled, second is enabled

[crisp galleon]

Yeah, I think that was it

[acoustic sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-silly-gif-5995970431905453935

Omg, hes optimized LC by making it made of cubes

[zenith flax]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1168656318345777313/1281803381307867136/matrix4.gif?ex=6792522c&is=679100ac&hm=5b21a96d08b9380184a490f8eefa8750fb14d1168ecf5494574ea5025fa8d321&
i mean

[crisp galleon]

MinecraftLevelLoader when?

(That's a nice picture)

[zenith flax]

curseforge would give me money so 🤔

think i'm a little late to that party though

[gaunt cedar]

hello gamers, me and my friends are using a modpack and whenever anyone (not the host) tries to land the ship, it says "must be server host."

can anyone confirm that it isn't this mod causing this to happen?

[zenith flax]

it might be this mod

[gaunt cedar]

we thought it might be imperium or something, we're going through rn to try and isolate it

thanks gamer

[crisp galleon]

If you must, you can downgrade LLL to pre 1.4.x stuff as that's when some big changes occurred. Though that one's not too bad.

(It's fine that I mention downgrading if they get a report in this thread, right Batby? I know you mentioned to me to not just tell people to downgrade without first getting a report made in here.)

[foggy siren]

Latest version of this mod sadly makes the game unplayable

You prob know this, but it makes it so you can't get past the online and lan screen lol

[crisp galleon]

See, I think there’s something more to it because I played only a few days ago and could get by

[zenith flax]

Should be fixed today

[foggy siren]

Really?

[foggy siren]

I'll try it, but I swear it doesn't work unless I downgrade it

[zenith flax]

as in future

[foggy siren]

Wait is it not fixed yet?

[zenith flax]

it is not

[foggy siren]

Aw shucks

[remote quail]

Whooooahhhhhhh

It’d be an understatement to say that that’s neat

[foggy siren]

Is the level loader fixed yet?

[zenith flax]

No sorry!

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-meeseeks-mr-hes-trying-at-least-you-tried-it-gif-13857889

[strange trail]

okay thats kinda wild, I tried my modpack again now that Lunar Lights and DemonMae's moons are updated to newest LLL and ram usage is already below 16 gigs

I wonder if it'll go below 10 if wesley, rosie and generic's stuff are also updated

thank you batby

[steady ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/mrmeeseeks-die-rick-and-morty-scared-golf-club-gif-8698171

[haughty moss]

I was getting stuck at the online/lan screen and I had a feeling it was gonna be this

I got stuck until I downgraded to the latest 1.3 version

[unique geode]

I haven't had any issues with that did you check for any errors in your log?

Cus it's most likely the resort of a mod causing a conflict somewhere

[haughty moss]

I didnt see anything stand out to me in the logs

when I click the button it just says waiting for lethallevelloader in the logs and nothing happens

[tall kindle]

can you send your logs j ust to be safe

[haughty moss]

wait I found which one it was

it was Nali Haven interior by DemonMae

wait the pack also has their unreal interior mod in it which includes Nali Haven

I guess the issue is having 2 of the same interior in the pack

[tall kindle]

yes

[haughty moss]

1.3 seemed to load fine with both though

and I feel like there should be a log message about this, or something

took so long to track down since one of the duplicates was added to the pack via a mod update

[unique geode]

I think the reason it soft locks that screen now is cus of the hot-loading stuff where it unloads bundles

If you were to have this on 1.3 it would throw errors and just break the interior

[rough escarp]

only rebalanced moons

[hollow rivet]

@zenith flax I know you don't want me talking here but just need to quickly ask, is anyone is having the issue where when somebody joins your lobby it says waiting for players to load moon, and to fix you have to route to another moon.

[rough escarp]

yeah, had that happen to me

[manic belfry]

still an issue

[quiet stream]

not sure if batby has the time to fix it, + he did a tooon of hot fixes when the update first came out so maybe someone else could make an itty bitty patch like the moon time multiplier one?

[honest blade]

Is it possible that we can get a scrap # multiplier in the interior configs, there are some modded interiors that I found it very hard to find the scrap in because the interior is so large, and I would like to be able to multiply the amount of scrap in it

[zenith flax]

feel free to delete this

[rough escarp]

just route to another moon then back

ez

forcecredits if needed

[hollow rivet]

?

[unique geode]

The issue here is that this is a workaround, and a proper fix should really hopefully come soon. I get Batby is a busy person and all but it's a bit odd to rely on having to use a mod like LGU to fix this, I almost wanna ask Whitespike to maybe make the Force Credits feature it's own seperate mod

[hollow rivet]

forcecredits fix the issue from the screenshot above?

[whole mortar]

Routing to a different moon and back fixes it, force credits is just to refund routing costs

[hollow rivet]

oh

[elder ether]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-with-red-scarf-dog-red-scarf-scarf-stretched-gif-27439095

[manic belfry]

🫢 oh boy really??

if only i knew that sooner

[hollow rivet]

Yeah but this is difficult for new players that don’t know this.

[spiral siren]

Was just doing a quick smoke test on LLL 1.4.6 in LAN to see if it would be reliable in my games with friends in 20 minutes with code 0194a3b4-1b44-c214-c237-78129d4729d3

1. Client A opens lobby with an existing save on first day on experimentation
2. Client B joins lobby
3. Client B disconnects
4. Client A routes to 13 Sierra
5. Client B joins lobby again
6. Client A observes that the lever continues to be usable during and after Client B is joining
7. Client A pulls lever
8. Client B gets an exception about SierraScene not being added to build settings
9. Client A gets stuck on LoadedStatus (1 / 2)

Can't seem to attach logs yet, Discord is dying

there we go, finally

[hollow rivet]

Was this the thing from the screenshot I sent

[spiral siren]

you didn't need to send that screenshot again

and also that screenshot tells me nothing about what you did

so I have no clue

[hollow rivet]

The thing on the lever

[hollow rivet]

[ At least one player is loading a custom moon! ]

[spiral siren]

that still doesn't tell me what you did

notice how I posted a step by step list of the actions I took?

[hollow rivet]

It was a little hard to replicate, but it’s when somebody joins you when your in orbit, then it says that making you unable to land, and to fix you have to route to a moon.

[hollow rivet]

I’m just saying is that the error you got

[spiral siren]

did you read what I wrote? it is literally the opposite of that

[hollow rivet]

Oh

Ok nvm

[spiral siren]

I can't imagine what I wrote is unclear, except for the fact that I didn't specify the time that I waited before pulling the lever (after observing the interact prompt was usable), which was probably less than 2 seconds

but not relevant to differentiate my results from yours

[hollow rivet]

Okay, I thought you got the same error I got because you mentioned how somebody joins the lobby then the lever become unusable.

[hollow rivet]

Oh wait just realising this now did you want it deleted because of the model?

[tall kindle]

Sometimes people remind me that life is a test of sheer patience and will

[rough escarp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/823965636812210216/1332193381652369550/Truth.gif

[nova obsidian]

I have an idea for level matching properties for extended scrap.

Would it be possible to implement a feature where it checks to see if a certain scrap exists as part of the level's default scrap pool? And if so, would it be possible to where if it does find the specific scrap it's looking for, it's rarity is set to the same rarity as the scrap it's looking for with a multiplier relative to the scrap's rarity?

To put it more simple terms,

let's say I have CustomScrap. I can set it to where it spawns in any level that has the BigBolt scrap.

And when the CustomScrap gets assigned to that level, it uses the same rarity as the BigBolt in that level, with a multiplier to change it's rarity relative to the BigBolt.

[spiral siren]

I said it was usable though

[zenith flax]

No because for the like fifth fucking time i do not wish you talk to you

[foggy siren]

Anyone still getting the Lethal Level loader online and lan glitch?

Basically where you're just stuck on the online and lan screen since your game takes forever to load

[crisp galleon]

No. It can take a while if you've got lots of moons and stuff I guess but it's not stuck there

[whole mortar]

Check if you have any duplicate moons (e.g. Asteroid-14 and Wesley's Moons, which already includes it)

I think it can get stuck on that screen because of that

[foggy siren]

Will dooooo

[zenith flax]

Sincere apologies for the delayed update, It is not without reason ❤️

[abstract bobcat]

i trsut you with my life here

i dont think i will be exaggerating like this again i think it was kinda weird

[foggy siren]

Dw man ik modding is hard

I tried it once

[foggy siren]

I don't have either one of those mods and it's still taking a while to load

[digital breach]

what do your logs say

[foggy siren]

I'll send em

Hold up

[digital breach]

specifically you're looking for stuff like this [Info :LethalLevelLoader] sector0assets.lethalbundle Loaded (6.29s)!

[foggy siren]

I did see smth like that

[digital breach]

hmm, just speculation from your logs but I wonder if BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundlesPatcher is hijacking the bundle loading process from LLL

specifically referencing this:

[02:26:09.6615533] [Info   :LethalLevelLoader] LethalBundleManger: Now Loading Bundles!
[02:26:09.7428236] [Debug  :BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundlesPatcher] Loading uncompressed bundle "starlancerwarehouse_-1532240264.assetbundle"
[02:26:09.7672514] [Debug  :BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundlesPatcher] Loading uncompressed bundle "standaloneblindpup_208291954.assetbundle"
[02:26:09.7822673] [Debug  :BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundlesPatcher] Loading uncompressed bundle "dungeon_cidom_-908636192.assetbundle"
[02:26:09.8379358] [Debug  :BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundlesPatcher] Loading uncompressed bundle "dungeon_guardia_-177730142.assetbundle"
[02:26:09.8542272] [Debug  :BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundlesPatcher] Loading uncompressed bundle "dungeon_bluemines_1824180888.assetbundle"
[02:26:09.8980040] [Debug  :BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundlesPatcher] Loading uncompressed bundle "dungeon_greenruins_-467961968.assetbundle"```

I'd try loading your profile without BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundlesPatcher and see if it's any better

[foggy siren]

Will do!

[digital breach]

and yeah, your lethalbundles look to be taking much longer to load [02:26:46.1546098] [Info :LethalLevelLoader] starlancerwarehouse.lethalbundle Loaded (36.44s)! [02:26:46.2647346] [Info :LethalLevelLoader] standaloneblindpup.lethalbundle Loaded (36.52s)! [02:26:46.4345888] [Info :LethalLevelLoader] dungeon_cidom.lethalbundle Loaded (36.66s)! [02:26:46.6831276] [Info :LethalLevelLoader] dungeon_guardia.lethalbundle Loaded (36.90s)! [02:26:46.9615320] [Info :LethalLevelLoader] dungeon_bluemines.lethalbundle Loaded (37.12s)! [02:26:47.0407482] [Info :LethalLevelLoader] dungeon_greenruins.lethalbundle Loaded (37.18s)! [02:26:47.3158434] [Info :LethalLevelLoader] dungeon_redapartments.lethalbundle Loaded (37.41s)!

but i'd guess that could also be a hardware diff

[foggy siren]

Hopefully not

Never really had this problem since the latest update

Of Lethal Level Loader

[digital breach]

[foggy siren]

Still doesn't work

GGS

0194a5a2-fbf2-821d-43f0-309f9a34fe66 (Here's my modpack if you wanna take a look 👉 👈 )

[digital breach]

are the moons/interiors you have updated for the LLL performance benefits?

if they havent been updated the load performance shouldn't have changed much iirc

[foggy siren]

Sorry man you kinda lost me here?

[digital breach]

you have a lot of really old mods in your profile (14-12 months old) I'd start filtering some of those out if I were you

[foggy siren]

I mean all my moons/interiors are updated fully

[foggy siren]

Hmmm

Can you list some

[digital breach]

the moons/interiors had to have been updated by the mod author recently to get the latest performance updates (they had to do some things to their bundles or something)

[digital breach]

I just sorted by last updated ascending* in Gale

suits should be fine but anything with code you prob dont want to be super old

[foggy siren]

Oh ic

[foggy siren]

Do you suggest I get rid of these mods?

Also honestly if you could tell me what this gale thing is maybe I can figure smth out here

[digital breach]

I suggest you try disabling some to see how your performance differs. But I'm not gonna tell you what to do lol

[foggy siren]

Fair enough

[digital breach]

like I saw you had "Skinwalkers" in the logs and pretty much most people use Mirage as the more recent, better replacement

[digital breach]

better mod manager app than r2 or the default thunderstore app https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1246088342458863618

[foggy siren]

Oh right yeah

[foggy siren]

Thanks!

[timber ridge]

im assuming ever since the update the clients cant go to a moon without the permission from the host, is there a way to unrestrict that?

[zenith flax]

its a bug

[maiden valley]

on lobby load, what do it mean?

[maiden valley]

oh wow jumpscare

[maiden valley]

@slim wind you ? disregard sorry

mb i thought this was LLL at first glance

[tall kindle]

we need whole log

[maiden valley]

gotcha

[tall kindle]

assuming this is the first error, which i doubt, then problem would be with LLL or something going wrong with the game

[maiden valley]

it is

i scrolled to the top, to get this

[tall kindle]

weird, are u able to replicate?

[maiden valley]

the rest is followed by spam

yeah

consistently

[tall kindle]

oh, what're the steps?

[maiden valley]

load a lobby

new save or not

[tall kindle]

huh, well seeing how this isnt happening to probably anyone else, i'd call it some weird mod incompat, batby might ask you to turn on the highest logging option and send logs

[maiden valley]

this is weird because i am just using my debug profile

that worked before i built my new pc

no clue whats going on

heres my log, i neutered it so it starts at the first error (which seems to be consistently immediately after LLL prints out the levels/interiors)

0194ab2b-4f38-4aa1-bb5e-70370f88cdcc

code

[tall kindle]

i think neutering makes it a lot less useful

[maiden valley]

i literally just cut out irrelevant information

[tall kindle]

ignoring any kind of assumption like "it's possible you missed an error", there could be important logs in place

[maiden valley]

i did not miss an error

[tall kindle]

yeah, and i said ignoring

it's a bit weird to neuter a log, where its whole point is to log, like neutering to the first error makes things a lot harder to figure out what the cause was

[maiden valley]

urgh why are you giving me a hard time about this :'(
here ill tell you what, if theres anything useful in this log compared to the last one ill give you 15 bucks dude

[tall kindle]

wdym giving you a hard time people log shit so they can tell when something has gone wrong 😭

[maiden valley]

yes and i included everything relevant to what went wrong

i know what i am doing

[tall kindle]

im just gonna agree to disagree

[maiden valley]

i won't do it again

[tall kindle]

just tried the mod code, found no issues on my end

i would reset your cache or smthn

[maiden valley]

wth

um

i hope its not my system :(

ill try

[maiden valley]

wtf

my new pc builds my scene bundle in less than 2 minutes 😭

it was like 5-17 minutes before

[maiden valley]

okay so i figured it out, the reason @tall kindle couldn't reproduce this is bc its caused by me updating the asset bundles locally, so theres something wrong with my extended levels or something i guess but i dont even know what to look for because this error is very vague

[tall kindle]

you're giving a null content tag somewhere

it might tell you which one is null if you enable batby's logging, but i dont know that for sure

[maiden valley]

weird

cuz like

i just went through all of them and i have 0 content tags

but its always been this way

so idk why its just now not working

[tall kindle]

i assume u dont have a local version of lethallevelloader anywhere?

[maiden valley]

oh oops disregard hehe

i double checked

[tall kindle]

lovely

[maiden valley]

yea idk how but march had a null one

idk where that spawned from

thank you for pointing me in the right direction

[tall kindle]

its alright

[maiden valley]

its hard to keep up with 9 levels now

[tall kindle]

thats how things be when u get into having a lot of content

coderebirth has me maintaining this rn lol

you get the hang of it eventually

and with decent organisation you dont think about it too much

[maiden valley]

woww

props lol

[serene pumice]

Can someone help me with this? https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1333690499558674432

[sharp hill]

how do you setup the bundles for an interior?

[nimble umbra]

does this feature even work?

[remote quail]

Pretty sure Kite uses this feature for Vacuity

[nimble umbra]

Any documentation on how to use it?

[remote quail]

No idea

But i’d assume you can just copy paste the vanilla ship landing animation, change the copy to your liking, then drag and drop it into those Ship Fly To/From Moon clip spaces

[nimble umbra]

Sounds reasonable but I have no clue how to make a preview of the ship itself xD

[remote quail]

You could ask Kite abt it

They could prob help with some stuff

[crisp galleon]

Put an asset label on an ExtendedMod with the lethalbundle extension.

Everything else is included because the ExtendedMod references your ExtendedDungeon (I think that’s what it’s called) which references a LevelMatchingProperties (to determine where your interior spawns) and your dungeonflow

[nimble umbra]

Who is he?

[errant lotus]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1243219877293199440

Synthesis, Vacuity & Zeranos Moons

[nimble umbra]

Thank you

[fervent aurora]

I am just wondering why the "must be server host" was added in 1.4.x? It seems like a change that most people would not want and also something that should be able to be disabled/enabled if the user wishes?

[north vigil]

it's a bug as far as I've seen from Batby

[fervent aurora]

Well I saw the code that causes it in the "NetworkBundleManager.cs"
line 67:
if (IsHost)
allowedToLoadLevel.Value = true;