Lethal Level Loader [Custom Content Loading API]

[fading wyvern]

i finished my commission and planned to come back here and start a new topic to get back into it -

then got some lab results that were pretty scary

so im tackling major health issues rn

[tall kindle]

i hope its nothing too challenging, get well soon man

[fading wyvern]

kinda is

(for me) at least

[kindred bramble]

oh shit! Dude I wish you the best.

[tall kindle]

🫡

[fading wyvern]

so yeah unfortunately Egypt is gunna be not worked on at all for the near future

apologies tt

[kindred bramble]

1000% understandable

[fading wyvern]

i considered handing it off to someone but theres liscencing in the assets I own that does not allow distribution

so if someone wanted to re-buy some of those assets for themselves or create unique models to replace them they could take over

[merry marsh]

@weary apex Whenever you wake up you'll wanna see this

[kindred bramble]

Bad zac

let the poor man rest

[weary apex]

Woke up five minutes ago and I just want to say it sounds interesting

[unique geode]

Hope you slept well bud, I feel bad for what you're gonna find in your thread regarding Sanguine v.v

[weary apex]

I've already seen😂

[unique geode]

Yeah was it what I guessed? lol

[weary apex]

Yeah, I guess so

[unique geode]

Yeah cus he was the first to join the lobby and never left or rejoined or anything and got that desync

So all I could guess is you left the facility dungeon included somehow, for what it's worth he also said he saw Zenit when we went back in orbit after the first game 🤔 but Zenit has a high mansion spawn chance so I think it was probably just the game being weird

[weary apex]

Zenit has a slim chance of 30 on Facility

[unique geode]

That is true but considering he got the same desync 2 games in a row that would be some insane rng

But I guess it wouldn't hurt to check Zenit

XD

[weary apex]

@fading wyvern which assets are used?

[ashen cedar]

only solution ive had is downgrading it back to 1.2.2 which i can tell modmakers are doing as well (not downgrading but staying on 1.2.2)

also on 1.2.2 for some reason im not finding any of the modded interiors anymore despite them all having 150 ive only been getting facility despite having 4 modded interiors

nvm bodycams became a ship upgrade

stukk cant see the store though

[rain garnet]

does BepInEx Faster Load AssetBundles Patcher actually make a difference and is not causing any issue ? also why is it required right now ?

[ashen cedar]

not making a difference for me

[rain garnet]

mh o-°

[ashen cedar]

i think the terminal issues i was having were caused by terminal formatter which was supposed to fix the lll moons format but broke the store

[bitter pond]

What mod makes the terminal look like this?

[ashen cedar]

terminal desktop

doest effect the way text and the console is formatted though

[rain garnet]

i dunno about you, but on my side the annoying issue is when typing in the terminal it just dont scroll down for me to see what i type, and also i think there is not the audio when typing

and some time i have to reenter the terminal cuse i cant do shit

[ashen cedar]

with what?

terminal desktop?

[rain garnet]

nop

just an issue i have right now

[ashen cedar]

disableing terminal formatter fixed the store

still cant viewmonitor for some reason but i think thats fault of the twobodycams ill leave lll alone for now but im def not retrying 1.2.3

[rain garnet]

if i revert LLL, do i need to also revert mod that had an update just for it ? (like the interior mods)

[ashen cedar]

rn most interior mods arent even using 1.2.3

but if they are you would have to downgrade them too

also idk how but downgrading LLL broke alot of stuff for me and i had to load a previous version of the modpack i was on

for some reason

goining from 1.2.1 to 1.2.2 all of the interior chances became extemely low

and they only spawn on the vanilla free moons

[rain garnet]

oh, speaking of interior chance...

i had to go back to setting up the weight in the interior config for some of them cuse while doing it in LLL config was just not working

black mesa, bozoros, bunker and toystore

[ashen cedar]

okay good to know

bc rn the modded interiors are low as hell and half of them arent even appearing

[rain garnet]

you should make it so it shows the weight instead of the %

[ashen cedar]

okay

[rain garnet]

@ashen cedar well actually, i dont know what u did, but i have set it as % and still got both

is it terminal formatter work ?

[ashen cedar]

i took off terminal formatter bc it broke my store

like i couldnt see the stop items except for like 4 of them

also for some reason it keeps changing the config to this when i put all

which just disabled it

[rain garnet]

what setting is this ?

[ashen cedar]

the config for the interior i was using

on piggys office

it doesnt work so imma just try to figure out the LLL config

[rain garnet]

i suggest doing it in LLL for cozyoffice

[ashen cedar]

yeah because cozyoffice doesnt even have a custom config i think

i was talking about piggy's office but the config settings for that dont even work

[rain garnet]

wut

oh ye mb

this one too

[ashen cedar]

idk how it works ive been messing with a bunch of stuff but the config doesnt change anything and the interiors chance stays the same

[ashen cedar]

how would i increase the weight? this dont make any sense to me lol

oh is hte canyon wasteland tundra the terrain catagory

[rain garnet]

dungeon injection setting

[ashen cedar]

i never seen that b4

[rain garnet]

its the same as in the interior config

[ashen cedar]

okay thanks

[rain garnet]

dont forget to enable the config above

[ashen cedar]

yes

also some of them are simplified like this

[rain garnet]

those are residue of old interiors

whats the name of it ? i did have my pool interior change name so it did that

have to go into the file and erase those

[ashen cedar]

that was for pool rooms

[rain garnet]

ye

this is obselete

there should be another pool

[ashen cedar]

yeah they dont even have a dropdown for true and false

where do you reset them

would this be limited to only wasteland moons?

[rain garnet]

no it will put 300 to wasteland moon that dont have another specific weight

sry i had visit

[rain garnet]

just find it in the text file and delete the obselete part

[ashen cedar]

i reset the entire config

set all them to true

and i still dont see pool rooms or piggy office in the maps

also none of the modded interiors spawn in the modded moons (wesleys moons)

is it because i have everything on "values empty by default" on all of them

apparently setting their custom configs to zero for poolrooms and office fixes it

[rich aurora]

Interesting, I've like never messed with the LLL config itself aside from changing debug logs to report an issue yesterday, I do all my weight assignment on each individual interior config

[ashen cedar]

i fixed by adding the names of all the moons in manual list on lll or the custom list in its own config

[shadow idol]

Cant leave the company building on 1.2.3

Very cool

[high cipher]

Use TestAccount's fix mod

[jolly cargo]

OH?

I thought this was the LLL one

JESUS

[tall kindle]

uh u cant have that as a default value lol

it needs to be like, string int or float i think

i dont think theres much more

you'll have to parse whatever is given to you into what u want

[jolly cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/ascension-sponge-bob-gif-15077046

I just called the LLL stuff

now does it apply

now to wait for an enemy to spawn to see the in game list

I set it all to 69 on adamance

ok?

So most are direct

for some rason crawerl and blob are -1 and jester is -5

Do you know why batby? Lasso is -69 but like yeah

Ok so I need to exclude Lasso from the list as it does cause an offset where the last entry is booted

after manually removing it the butler now is included

still odd and random inconsistencies

[dreamy island]

so my ship is not taking off. at all.

[fading wyvern]

ill compile it all when i get on my pc

[fathom quail]

i ended up having a bunch of crashes yesterday even though it did fix the company building

switching to 1.2.2 removed all of the issues

[high cipher]

Even the random crashes? I'll have to try the same

[fathom quail]

using 1.2.2 fixed an issue of crashing in game and one when booting it up

i dont think i even saw errors when those happened, at least not the one booting up

[fathom quail]

Does something like this mean 50% chance to be the custom interior, 50% to be split between vanilla's weighting? And does it override the office mod settings?

[high cipher]

Those crashes have been happening to me lately. I'll try reverting back

[chrome notch]

weight 40 for all levels with the Vanilla tag and weight 40 for all levels with the Custom tag

[fathom quail]

Ah thanks, is there a way to modify the weight for all moons relative to any other layout? In the office mod config I believe I brought the weight up to 150 out of 300, but I'm not sure how weight is reflected in percentages especially per map. My goal is to probably bring it to around 40% on all maps if possible

[abstract bobcat]

Think of it as a pie chart tbh

[bitter pond]

Moons don't all have the same interior weights

[acoustic sonnet]

huh https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ricardoandren/PatchedLethalLevelLoader/

[unique geode]

Tf lol

I ain't trusting that XD

[acoustic sonnet]

idk what its talking desync fix anyways, just deleting the lll config fixes that

[unique geode]

Ye

[plush wing]

Oh

HAHAHA

That's my PR, lmfao.

[limber thunder]

The forks and fix mods sprouting all over Thunderstore aren’t great. Fortunately that also means there’s probably quite a few people willing to contribute.

How do we best get the GitHub pipes unclogged and keep effort for Batby to a minimum? Appointing some maintainers (to sift through issues and QA PRs) would be good, but can any of us be trusted? ^^‘

[rain garnet]

sry was busy, u found out ?

[fathom quail]

i just messed with the values, ~200 weight in the office config made all the moons ~35-40%

thanks though

[rain garnet]

u can use "simulate MoonName" in the terminal to see the weight u have

[jolly cargo]

batby do you know why Lasso man shows up as Lasso in your config and not Lasso man?

[empty trail]

Not really batby's issue I dont think. Zeekers just doesnt consistently name enemies and stuff

[young acorn]

any way to fix the game just not loading when you click online?

[bitter pond]

Some people reported that launching the game first with LLL 1.2.2 then updating to 1.2.3 in the same profile fixes that issue

[unique geode]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DiFFoZ/BepInEx_Faster_Load_AssetBundles_Patcher/ This also seems to work most of the time for that issue

[young acorn]

nope

[young acorn]

that uses a ton of filespace i think

[jolly cargo]

yeah I got it out by excluding "Lasso"

[sly citrus]

The ever present current LethalLevelLoader glitch has put me in dependancy hell
Using 1.2.3 just makes it fail to bootup the game when loading asset bundles (yes I've tried like 4 supposed other mods that claims to fix it)

But downgrading LLL to 1.2.2 makes it not find any lethalbundles at all

[urban narwhal]

this doesnt have its own fog?

[unique geode]

It depends on the mods you have really, and it puts the cached files in your native game directory

[fathom quail]

welp i just found out that there's a bug where you sometimes can't route to the company in 1.2.2

so i guess you have to choose what's less annoying

[high cipher]

that's where you install terminal formatter

[fathom quail]

giving that a go rn

ty

[jolly cargo]

oh ok so thats not just me

[remote quail]

uhhh

okay yeah so it's also not just me

how tf did this even happen???

[jolly cargo]

well it just fails to load is all

[remote quail]

like yeah

but i swear 1.2.3 was working fine yesterday

there's no way the dll just suddenly gets a bug like that

[acoustic sonnet]

Just swap back to 1.2.2 seems to work fine

[weary apex]

Okay

[fading wyvern]

||https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/utilities/dungen-15682
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/terrain/terrain-to-mesh-195349
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/characters/rock-and-boulders-3-45643
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/environments/fantasy/alien-sandstorm-desert-planet-egyptian-temple-ruins-210546
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/environments/dungeons/egyptian-tombs-with-pyramid-69718
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/environments/historic/egyptian-tomb-pack-104873 (cant remember if this one actually has any files left in the project but im pretty sure it does)
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/environments/fantasy/lordenfel-castles-dungeons-rpg-pack-175628
||

There's all of egypt's paid assets in use.

[merry marsh]

I was looking at those😭

[bitter pond]

What was the progress of the interior btw? Was it close to being finished?

[brisk schooner]

https://tenor.com/bTU7r.gif

[fading wyvern]

yeah sorry i forgot to add <>'s to the URL

[brisk schooner]

10,000 years punishment

[fading wyvern]

The people who were initially panned to work with me on it kinda ghosted when I started not working on it 24/7. There's five rooms currently. Entry, a Y hallway, descending stairs hallway, one 'regular' room and one apparatus room. I also have re-'skinned' vents and the big doors the terminal can interact with. There's various audio files that are NYI but are in the project like the stingers and the new apparatus audio.

Quite a few of the imported objects had to have their colliders changed and that took some time to get right

iirc the dungen generated properly and there was just a couple more rooms I would've added. But there wasn't proper LC implementation because at the time I last worked on it there was a bit of a pause in LLL and everyone was kinda doing their own thing, the ripper was getting updated, and people were trying to refine the DunGen process

so I was also waiting for that to clean up

but yeah I'd say, add 3-4 main 'loot' rooms, a straight hall and a curve/bend hall and it'd be done

aside from LC implementation

unless there was more stuff that was learned that im not aware of

[weary apex]

I have 4 of the 7 assets

[weary apex]

The only thing missing is three Egyptian

[fading wyvern]

👍 if you can get your hands on those i'd be able to transfer the project without breaking the standard unity asset store EULA

[weary apex]

Ok, I have two assets, the only thing missing is this one Egyptian Tomb Pack, does it make sense? I could theoretically do it myself

[fading wyvern]

yeah im not actually 100% sure if that last one is in the project

I think it was when I had scrap back in the LE version

or I might be using some of the textures but honsetly they're replacable if so

[weary apex]

I could redo these textures/models, they don't look too complicated

[vocal flame]

🤔

[wet vortex]

cannot leave the company building with new patch

this error is thrown when we pull the lever, and ship does not take off

[unique geode]

Known issue use TestAccount's mod.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TestAccount666/LethalLevelLoaderCompanyFixer/

[cedar raven]

What causes certain interiors to spawn way more than others? Because I had like 7 interiors in my modpack, and it was always the same 3 interiors that spawned (office, bunker, sometimes warehouse). Does the dynamic tag list take priority over the moon list one or something?

ah we had sewer once too, but cozyoffice, castle, mental hospital, poolrooms & liminal poolrooms all never spawned

and we visited at least 6 different moons and around 12 moons in total

[tall kindle]

idk if this is relevant to you, but i believe the way tags are made, its higher weights apply more than lower weights

e.g. if a specific moon is stormy, u have an interior to be 400 stormy and 200 that specific moon, it uses 400 not 200

that type of thing

[cedar raven]

I'd have to check. I ended up clearing the non-moon lists for now, but I haven't gotten the opportunity to try it out yet. For some reason, when I try the modpack solo, I get a variety of interiors, but in group it's always the same ones

though the weights of the dynamic tag lists were set really low so it shouldn't have been a huge problem

[little maple]

hey, the console always says this when starting the game:

[Error  : Unity Log] FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'LC_API, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies.
Stack trace:``` any idea on what could cause this?

the line before was "[Info :LethalLevelLoader] Adding ScenePath: AcidirScene"

but it also has happened with other logs directly before that error message

[plush wing]

And you're not using async logger?

[regal rune]

Don't know if anyone has brought this up. But tags on custom moons are a bit of a mess, and the vanilla ones while ok are a bit lacking. This only really comes up now because we have so many new interiors and moons that just keep piling up, and just telling an interior to go to "custom" can be a mess. And the dynamic tags are great for not having to do it all individually.
I'm suggesting either LLL or another mod add functionally to use a config to override what moons have as tags, as a quick fix if the authors of all the moons don't clean it up and make better tags.
Maybe I'm just being picky, but if I'm going to config this mess it would be great.

[zenith flax]

Tags should not be user adjustable

If a custom moon doesn’t have sufficient tags feel free to hit up that dev about it

[stiff hull]

is there a way of making an interior available for all maps via dungeon injection? i have no idea what to put here lol

[lunar obsidian]

not sure if its been noticed, but figured i'd mention it in case, since the update that fixed being able to get to the company building, once you're there, you now cant leave, we fixed it by downgrading the mod to the previous update and still using the terminal formatter as the fix

[bitter pond]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TestAccount666/LethalLevelLoaderCompanyFixer/

And yes it is known

[lunar obsidian]

ahh thank youu

[empty trail]

All maps the same value? Or?

[stiff hull]

i mean sure, or I could just write a list with specific values per-moon. Idk how I would format the list or where to put it tho

[empty trail]

ah

Manual Level Names section is for moon names, its formatted like [MoonName]:[Number]

[stiff hull]

so this is valid?

[empty trail]

yeah seems like it

[fierce axle]

leave out the 13 from asteroid 13

it screws it up

[stiff hull]

oh ty

[jolly cargo]

Are the dungeonflows not saved as a list on the level?

trying to use my ConvertDungeonFlowListToString but I can't figure out how to get the dungeon flows for that Extended Level

[zenith flax]

saved? No

Theres a function in dungeonmanager

There isn’t a static list

As it can change based on stuff throughout the game

[jolly cargo]

h

[empty trail]

@zenith flax Is there anything breaking other than the company issue with 1.2.3? Since I want to know if it is stable enough to import into my project atm

I never go to the company when testing so anything affecting that wont be much of an issue for me

[unique geode]

Some people with fresh profiles can't load assets unless they use DiFFoZ's mod or do 1 game boot with 1.2.2 then upgrade to 1.2.3 but it's inconsistent

Otherwise 1.2.3 has been really stable

I'm not sure if there are any under the hood issues that Batby has found or not ofc

[empty trail]

ah idm about that either

Itd be a poor idea for me to use asset bundle unloader when testing xD

Dont want to bloat my PC storage

[unique geode]

Haha yeah as long as you've booted the game at some point with 1.2.2

You should be fine

It's just fresh profiles that have the problem for some reason dunno why

[fair vector]

help when i click online nothing happens then something like that pops up in the console any fix?

[unique geode]

Use Faster Load by DiFFoZ or downgrade LLL to 1.2.2, boot the game up once and then update it again

[regal rune]

Since no one seems to have mentioned going to dynamic and using like "Vanilla:100,Custom:100" works to add an interior to all moons.

Now does anyone know if putting a 0 with a specific level name will work to override and make a moon then not have that interior? Because I'm not sure specific level naming overrides dynamic, or if I'm getting the level name wrong.

[fair vector]

thanks it works

[unique geode]

Yw ^^

[regal rune]

Do we know how or why Faster Load is working? What is it breaking to make this work?

[zenith flax]

nomnom gave me a suggestion to a fix that wasnt tested enough

not implied to be a fault on their part

haven't had time to look yet but im assuming the lll assetbundleloader coroutines are dying due to the change

but faster load scoops up the calls in a way that safely finishes them

[unique geode]

@zenith flax no changelog? Or is TS just being slow?

[zenith flax]

eh day

will do probably

should fix the two big issues

[unique geode]

Hope so

[zenith flax]

nothing else

[unique geode]

😄

[unique geode]

Yeah cus besides the 2 large issues 1.2.3 was super stable

Now people don't need to fight with it anymore to make it work

XD

[zenith flax]

@limber thunder peeped the PR, overall looks good, really appreciate the effort.

Anything I should know? Gonna delete the scriptableobjectdrawer since I forgot that was even still in the project

[limber thunder]

Network Patching looks to still have an issue (as reported from the fork), I’m gonna look into that today.

Hopefully it’s just something minor like a build config change. Easy enough to confirm working at least.

[zenith flax]

when someone is someoning curious to know if 1.2.0.4 works in editor

@jagged arch i really just hit the

[empty trail]

Yeah i can in a couple most likely

[versed spire]

what does the new lll update bring?

version 1.2.4

[empty trail]

Fixes major bugs

Iirc

[versed spire]

does it fix the company building?

[abstract bobcat]

fixes being stuck on the launch mode screen (online/LAN) and being unable to leave company building

[versed spire]

o ok

finaly i can remove lll company fixew

it decreses my fps so much

[unique geode]

I did notice the Company Fixer caused some performance loss when in Orbit but not by much, I also noticed Immersive Visor has a few optimization issues if you like that mod unfortunately

[versed spire]

can anyone help me fix this?

i have terminal formATER, WHY DO THE MOONS APPER LIKE THIS?

caps

ll v 1.2.4

lll

anyone?

[unique geode]

Dunno it's working fine for me

[versed spire]

ok, so terminal formater now bugs out with lll🙃

or lll with terminal formater

idk

[vocal flame]

Pretty sure Batby mentioned that they broke TerminalFormatter 🤔

[versed spire]

GODDAMNIT

[unique geode]

It works for me though

[versed spire]

i was at school🥲

[unique geode]

[versed spire]

well

[unique geode]

@slim wind maybe look into why TerminalFormatter is breaking sometimes

[hoary fable]

so LLL 1.2.4 breaks terminalformatter?

[versed spire]

atleast now i can use terminal plus again

[unique geode]

No

[versed spire]

fr me atleast

[unique geode]

I've seen someone else have this issue before too and they said it started working after a game reboot

It seems to be random

[hoary fable]

that's odd

well, i haven't had any problems on 1.2.3 so imma hope it stays that way when i upgrade

[unique geode]

It will

1.2.4 just hotfixes the 2 big issues

[paper pasture]

Hello, since the 1.2.2 update, I no longer have no custom facilities. Does anyone have any idea why this is the case?

I exported my profile: 018f960b-94ad-18dc-9dae-df92e6493036

[steady ingot]

ooh 1.2.4 is out WOOT! any issues so far?

[vocal flame]

Liquidation suddenly works /joke

[steady ingot]

i want liquidation to be a thing ...

[vocal flame]

Me too 😦

[versed spire]

an issue

[vocal flame]

Oh?

[versed spire]

i had terminal formater and when update lll

it broke

i fixed it by deleting formater and reinstalling it

[steady ingot]

that worked?

lol

[versed spire]

ye

[versed spire]

u on brek?

[steady ingot]

the crazy old "have you tried unplugging and replugging it / have you tried turning it off and back on" never lets you down

[vocal flame]

on "Break"

Or on the verge of breaking 🤔

[versed spire]

noone cares

[steady ingot]

ehh "break" meanwhile working on 9 projects

tbh idfk how many projects im doing rn lol

[versed spire]

👍

[vocal flame]

Wth, you asked ._.

[versed spire]

i didnt

[vocal flame]

.

[steady ingot]

he thinks you corrected his grammar i think lol

[vocal flame]

._.

[versed spire]

true

[steady ingot]

but Testy was talking about my """"break"""" lol

[versed spire]

aahhhhh

👍

[vocal flame]

I'm not a grammar police - At least not on Discord

[versed spire]

ye me neither

[wanton drum]

I am getting kinda low fps do you think it is tied to the immersive visor mod?

[versed spire]

it ghas a bit of a bad optimization

i sugest u install this

[wanton drum]

uhh, is there any alternatives?

[versed spire]

this icreses a lot of fps

try it

[bitter pond]

Is this not on Thunderstore?

[versed spire]

its thunderstore

[wanton drum]

i have every mod except dissonancelagfix

[versed spire]

idk

u can try

[wanton drum]

sure

thanks

[versed spire]

remember

[versed spire]

the more mods the less fps

thunderstore mod manager

its on the mod manager

[bitter pond]

More mods, more ram usage. Not necessarily less fps

[bitter pond]

Oh it's a modpack

[slim wind]

what happened this time

[wanton drum]

i have 104 mods currently but as far as i know they are not bad on optimization

[versed spire]

`i updated lll and terminal formater buged out, i fixed it by deleteing formater and reinstalling it]

101 mods fr me and 77 fps

depends on the mods

[slim wind]

just LLL?

[versed spire]

and other shit

101 in total

[slim wind]

🤷

with all due respect

but i cannot help you with "updated everything"

i know there's an issue with LGU and i'm fixing that asap

if anything other breaks, give me logs

[versed spire]

i fixed it so dosent matter

ok]

[slim wind]

great, how?

[versed spire]

deleted terminal formater and the reinstalling it

easy

[slim wind]

lol

[versed spire]

like sick boy said

[slim wind]

i'm not gonna argue with that logic

[slim wind]

it was not LLL

it was my patch for LGU

it's all working now

😇

[vernal grove]

yeah I've noticed that

I wish the creator would still update it

[spiral siren]

would not recommend the centipede fix mod, it kills them in situations where it should not

[versed spire]

o ok

that makes sense

i had situations where i found centepides fresh out of the vent and already ded

[spiral siren]

yup

if nobody is inside they just fall over

[empty trail]

poor bugs :(

[versed spire]

theyre a pain bro

[empty trail]

xD

[versed spire]

and u saying poor bugs

plus

its not the loot bugs

the centipides

were talking about

u really like those?

[empty trail]

xD
Yeah you right

[versed spire]

yippee bugs are some litl cutie pies

[empty trail]

@zenith flax
Literally one of the most unimportant issues, if and issue at all, but I thought I'd let you know anyways

The collision exit event is not named the same way the on collision enter event is even though they likely (?) do the same thing just reversed

Also, what are Tag comparisons & Tag filters in the case of these

[unique geode]

Aha

[weary apex]

what could be the problem?

[unique geode]

So it was your mod breaking Quantum Disruptor!!!!

@slim wind @plush wing lol

Mrov breaking your mod again WhiteSpike

JK I saw you hotfixed it cus it was on LGU's end XD

[empty trail]

@zenith flax Sorry for the other ping, but it does seem that those toggle route node properties for lethaltoolbox still dont function even with the working locked / hidden nodes

[unique geode]

I would guess LethalToolBox needs an update

🤔

[empty trail]

Yeah, batby was wondering if the lethaltoolbox node properties were also broken, so I was letting him know

It was a while back, but ig its nice to get that out there

[unique geode]

Ye

[empty trail]

On a side note, scene selection stuff seems to be working perfectly

[vocal flame]

Batby... The latest version of LLL...

[vocal flame]

Is the most cursed version in existence 😅

[steady ingot]

👀

[steady ingot]

oh lmao

[slim wind]

umm no

[unique geode]

Haha ik I was just messing with you

XD

[slim wind]

🙃

[unique geode]

It was going off of that lmfao

and then when you mentioned your mod was breaking cus of LGU I had to meme it

XD

[slim wind]

actually I'm not "changing" anything per se, I'm just adding my stuff after vanilla stuff gets processed

[tall kindle]

Thats a weird surname u got there

[empty trail]

Hmmmm, I wonder if I can try yet again to get something working for that stuff. I want to try and get this working in some capacity xD

[vocal flame]

We had multiple interiors inside each other.

Causing a lot of valves... And doors inside of each other.

Also a lot of lag 😅

Oh... And did I mention that basically ALL of the sound is gone? 😅

[empty trail]

in 1.2.4??

[unique geode]

On what moon?

I've had no issues

[vocal flame]

Yeah

[slim wind]

please no

[unique geode]

1.2.4 is just 1.2.3 with the 2 major bugs fixed

[slim wind]

power of customization

[vocal flame]

We also had a Meteor Storm on the company property xD

[unique geode]

@tall kindle Lmfao

[tall kindle]

I can read smh

[tall kindle]

That ones probably on me

You can see the disable code though

[slim wind]

if only there was a mod to prevent that 🤔

[tall kindle]

Idk why company is quirky with it

[slim wind]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/BetaWeatherTweaksBeta/

[unique geode]

@vocal flame what moon?

[empty trail]

Yeah itd be useful to know what moon and what interior(s?) tbh

[unique geode]

I remember someone mentioning that issue with Sector-0 but only Sector-0

[empty trail]

Yeah, thats why im worried T-T

[tall kindle]

Oh damn u made compat with the beta too?

[unique geode]

Double check you're not including the facility layout with Sector-0 btw if you can

DX

That would likely be the cause for it

[empty trail]

Doubt it but ill check anyways

[unique geode]

Yeah I know I haven't had issues with Sector but it doesn't hurt lol

[vocal flame]

Sector-0 and Affliction.

We didn't get to any other moons yet

[slim wind]

the combined/progressing stuff is not including your weather (yet), but I was too tired to edit Stable yesterday

[unique geode]

Affliction has been fine for me

🤔

[slim wind]

so all LethalLib stuff is working with beta atm

[empty trail]

asghttdfg why me whyyy T-T

Ill figure it out

[tall kindle]

Oh should I be recommending beta then?

[unique geode]

https://tenor.com/view/kanna-kamui-pat-head-pat-gif-12018819

[empty trail]

My components look fine though

for sector at least

[unique geode]

Yeah

[slim wind]

I mean, you could

I'm explicitly removing weather from company's building

[unique geode]

Yeah idk I've not had any issues with your moons Rosie

[empty trail]

& affliction, I have no clue why the interiors are duplicating like that

[unique geode]

I wonder if it's some other moon TestAccount has desyncing other things

Like the issue Tolian had where one borked moon would desync all his moons

[tall kindle]

Is that why the stupid things triggering there?

[empty trail]

Doubt it, moons usually just cause their own issues rather than issues with other moons

Unless like custom scripting

[tall kindle]

Weather is there on default?

[slim wind]

AFAIK all issues people were having are without weathertweaks present

[vocal flame]

xD

[slim wind]

OH YEAH

Company moon is a moon, after all

[tall kindle]

That's so stupid lol

I'd remove it myself, but that code in LL is currently broken (the remove code)

[unique geode]

I'm surprised you didn't build the mod on LLL tbh

[empty trail]

LLL doesnt have custom weather support rn I dont think

[tall kindle]

LLL doesn't have wearhers

Nor does it have a lot of what I need

[slim wind]

yeah

[vocal flame]

Does it surprise you when LLL is currently extremely broken? 😅

[slim wind]

that's why I'm trying to build my own solution

[vocal flame]

Ah yes xD

[tall kindle]

Okay not actually broken

I'm just not running it late enough

[empty trail]

Itd be nice if batby could get some LethalToolBox stuff out today, but realistically no, and I wouldnt want to force him to do anything.

Can someone walk me through making that toggle hidden / locked stuff work so i can get something functional for now? I'd appreciate any help given although I likely wont understand most of it xD

[tall kindle]

You're trynna make ur moon hidden at first?

[empty trail]

So essentially, I want a trigger on a moon to unlock another, eg Sector-0

Making it both unhidden & unlocked

I already know how to make it hidden and locked, but im not sure how to toggle those bools during runtime

[merry marsh]

@jolly cargo might be able to help with that

[tall kindle]

You'd probably need an actual script

The way im planning on doing it is through #1238174635510730762

[jolly cargo]

oh you just need to set it

is it the level you are on rn?

[tall kindle]

Most moon makers don't have a dll set up

So they don't have custom scripts that would just run

[jolly cargo]

oh?

[tall kindle]

Moons are just asset bundles

No code needed

[jolly cargo]

well if they give me specfics then I can probably help

its really just a case of setting IsRouteHidden and IsRoundLocked in code, you may need to put it in a somewhere mattering on what it is but that would be code

I don't think you can in change stuff on runtime from just an asset bundle?

[tall kindle]

Without the help of smthn that has scripts no

[tall kindle]

What would be the trigger exactly

[empty trail]

Eve StoryLog collected gives storylog & unlocks Sector-0"

Something like that

Storylogs dont work atm and I cant be bothered but yeah

thats the concept

But I want the script to be configurable so I can have another moon of mine be unlockable in a similar way

[tall kindle]

I can make a dll for you tmrw that makes story logs work and does the event you need, you'd just need to depend on the #1238174635510730762 mod and give me some information (like what model of a story log you want used, what text it has, where it is on the moon, etc)

[empty trail]

Ooo, im looking at this and it seems like I can add a storylog to a vanilla moon instead of having it on one of my custom moons?

[empty trail]

I'd really appreciate that! I suppose I could get a version out today where everything is working and get that special stuff out tomorrow with your help.

[tall kindle]

Yes

Anywhere u want, anyplace

Any custom model

And there's an event trigger so u can do stuff when the log gets used

[empty trail]

Woah

thats really neat

[tall kindle]

Ofc it needs more testing to make sure it 100% works, but afaik it does

[empty trail]

ye

So it is loosely prefab based?

[tall kindle]

Wdym prefab based

[empty trail]

uh

Idk how to explain

[tall kindle]

A prefab is just a Unity thing that can store components etc

[empty trail]

I forgot what I was trying to say xd

yeah mb

[tall kindle]

You feed this either a custom model or just use vanilla models

[empty trail]

Got it

This seems simple enough, maybe I could get this done myself, Ill try for a couple hours I suppose xD

One thing I dont know how to do though is make the DLL file, is there a good template somewhere?

[tall kindle]

I think xilos template is what people use for dlls

I personally do something stupider lol, so I won't even bother explaining, but try that

[empty trail]

xD

[empty trail]

Where is this?

[tall kindle]

Good question

Uh

[empty trail]

xD

[tall kindle]

@tired solar do you know?

[tired solar]

know what?

[tall kindle]

Where xilos template is

Mobile sucks so doesn't let me search

His template is what to use for making dlls right?

[tired solar]

https://github.com/Xilophor/Lethal-Company-Mod-Templates

[empty trail]

Thanks!

[tired solar]

there isn't really any special sauce, it's just a template for a C# project

but a well configured one

so other templates can be used, but Xilo's is the best

[tall kindle]

Icic

[empty trail]

How do I go about installing this xD
I need to properly learn these things someday pfft

[tall kindle]

You either need visual studio or visual studio code installed first

[empty trail]

thats good

I already have VS

[tall kindle]

https://lethal.wiki/dev/initial-setup
Then follow this

Where u install some stuff

[empty trail]

Thanks!

[empty trail]

So, I am having an issue and im not sure why

[tall kindle]

What is it?

[empty trail]

The references arent referencing xD

This is the issue ive been getting which has stopped me from going much further in this process

[tall kindle]

Hmm

Try reloading the app itself rq

Just incase

@safe flax is online tho :3

[safe flax]

[empty trail]

😅 Nope

It says it is unable to find the packages

But im not sure why that could be the case

[safe flax]

you for sure closed vs & reopened it?

[empty trail]

Should I fully restart it? Because I definitely closed and reopened

[safe flax]

like quiting it or minimizing it

[empty trail]

I quit it

[safe flax]

yeah ok, just making sure

[empty trail]

Ye np

[safe flax]

uhh

try building the project

[empty trail]

Alright

Also, it seems it cant find these ones in specific

[safe flax]

odd that it found one but not the others, considering LobbyCompatibility is on the official nuget repo and the others aren't

try typing dotnet restore in the terminal

also lets move this to #dev-general

[empty trail]

alrighty

[unique geode]

@kindred bramble I'm unsure why Sector-0 desynced for you

I tested it

it's fine for me

[kindred bramble]

Huh?

I do not remember posting this

[unique geode]

Oh it wasn't you mb

It was @vocal flame that had it happen

[steady ingot]

Wtf

[true drum]

Oh this was what was happening to me in Rosie's Gordion/Sect0 moon+interior back on 1.2.2

[empty trail]

Maybe it is S-0 Interior thats breaking

[true drum]

It might be generating weird? Ive yet to have it happen in solo but it happens consistently at leat with a group of 3 or more. 2 is inconsistent but it does happen

[empty trail]

Yeah & its incredibly old compatibility-wise. Its using LLL's backwards compat for old stuff as a last leg xD

I need to update it

[true drum]

Might be time to delve into that when yer able lol

[empty trail]

yeah

[kindred bramble]

@tall kindle Does LLL support adding hazards? Like the TP traps in Lethal Things?

or does that still have to be done with LethalLib?

[tall kindle]

afaik, LL

[jolly cargo]

batby what exacly does this mean
[Error :LethalLevelLoader] Removed: 43 SpawnableItemWithRarities From CurrentLevel: Experimentation Due To Invalid Properties To Prevent Errors.

I need to know what is invalid about the objects

[zenith flax]

probably rarity at 0

[jolly cargo]

hmm weird

only airhorn is considered valid, the others are rejected

newItem.spawnableItem = item; this should make it not null

hmm ig i should log the rarities then

ok yep the stringString.Rarity isn't null newItem.rarity = stringString.Rarity;

so the rarity isn't being lost

actually since it passes that, it proves that it is being added to the returnlist

so yeah the problem seems to most likely be that they are being falsely marked as being invalid

ill directly read the returnlist

ok so the returnlist does show all of the items as intended

is it just because level.SelectableLevel.spawnableScrap refuses modded scrap?

Is there like a list in ExtendedLevel that accepts modded scrap?

[zenith flax]

we can move this back in dev gen

[rain garnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1189301729905356824/1242270671954771978/8qptng.jpg?ex=664d3a38&is=664be8b8&hm=3a6edbf049dc5cd34012ecce6b9ffcff9ed8d6d75769d686dc300de5c483b7a3&

[acoustic sonnet]

hasnt happend to me yet lol

im scared

[rain garnet]

idk what it is, but now after departing from the company, were unable to reach orbit

game dont reach the save point

[merry marsh]

Do you still have LLLCompanyFixer?

[rain garnet]

nop

[unique geode]

It's not an issue with LLL from what I understand some people got LGU borked after the 2 recent updates, try regening your LGU config and set it up again from scratch

[true drum]

LGU?

Oh wait nvm im dum

[rain garnet]

borked ¿ can u give more details ?

[unique geode]

As in they got errors, and deleting and regening their config fixed it

[rain garnet]

i hope its just that

got bullied by my friend last night cuse of it

[weary apex]

It would be good to know if this asset is used at all

[unique geode]

Probably this, General rule of thumb atm is that interiors that haven't been updated for V50 have the potential to break things lol

[rain garnet]

which of them are not up to date ?

[unique geode]

Mental Hospital

Scoopy's

Sector-0

Mental Hospital is pretty stable despite not being updated but will have performance issues from time to time on generation

[rain garnet]

alright thx, imma disable them

[remote quail]

Yeah never had any issues with both mental hospital and sector-0

[waxen fog]

Story of my life rn

[jolly cargo]

@zenith flax Ok really high priority for api stuff imo, can you make it so that extendedlevel can hold LL scrap? I can confirm that extendedlevel can luckily hold LL enemies

when ExtendedLevel.SelectableLevel.spawnableScrap contains LL scrap, it will use up the scrap count for LL scrap but they do not make it all the way through, IE the vanilla log shows there is 100 scrap to spawn in the level and only 33 will spawn as 67 are LL scrap

[tall kindle]

i've seen LL items spawn in levels though?

well i havent played in a bit

do they not spawn rn?

[jolly cargo]

yeah, may have been a recent thing

I can quickly go test if lll 1.2.4 lets it happen in general

[tall kindle]

yeah do that

if it doesnt allow it, you'll probably have to look at LLL's code and find out why they're being rejected an make a pr with teh fix

[jolly cargo]

yep, just LLL alone here

as you can see, it tries to spawn 100, 43 are rejected

[jolly cargo]

based on where that log comes from it is implying that the item itself is either null or that its rarity is 0

which is not the case

[rain garnet]

hey can someone explain to me how to use the config for interior size ? i tried to reduce the damn hospital but it didn't worked (or it did and the normal size is even bigger)

i put this

[jolly cargo]

This is the code that appears to reject LL scrap

[merry marsh]

Keep all the defaults for hospital, just change the size scaler to 0.8

[rain garnet]

i have trouble understanding the later option

[merry marsh]

I'm not sure I can explain it very well😅 the reason why hospital is so big is because the default size scaler value isn't being applied in the LLL config. It should be 0.8 instead of 1

[rain garnet]

mmh

imma try

[merry marsh]

Make sure to have the correct defaults for the min and max

[patent schooner]

what does 1.2.4 update . ,.

[azure ether]

bug with LLL making a moon pitch black-

Idk if it's LLL or just some weird bug

[lament nebula]

Would this fix the size issue with Mental Hospital until it’s properly updated?

[merry marsh]

Yes it should

[lament nebula]

Oh sweet

So I think that leaves the only un-updated interior with notable issues being Scoopy’s?

I’ve heard Dungeon is fine but Sewer has performance issues in v50

Actually wait I think I have a list

[jolly cargo]

Update: it appears that it logs it as such and "removes it" in that the scan command doesn't count it but the LL scrap is still placed I think, its not unplaced, its just unregistered and ignored by scan and logs

[lament nebula]

Bunker: Size Scaler -1 -> 3

Dungeon: Max Size 2 -> 1.5
Sewer: ? (Performance issues?)

Stronghold: ?
Woodland Mansion: ?

Mental Hospital: Size Scaler -1 -> 0.8

Sleep’s School: ?

Circus: No changes needed?

TeraSpace: ?

Sector-0: ?

[merry marsh]

Honestly I'd recommend just trying sewer and see for yourself, the performance loss for me is very miniscule

[lament nebula]

Eh I’m running a 3070 so I’m not the best benchmark

[merry marsh]

I only have a 1080ti😅

[lament nebula]

Also if there’s any other config changes needed that you know of other than those let me know lol

I’m adding them to the entities/interiors/moons sheet

[lament nebula]

Ahh

[merry marsh]

I don't have Teraspace and sector in my pack rn, waiting for both to be updated

[lament nebula]

So just added notes for Bunker, Dungeon, and Mental Hospital

Actually added “Performance Hit” to Sewer and “None” to Circus (as afaik it had no impact)

[lament nebula]

I thought the size options were like broken for mental hospital somehow

Or is it max size that’s broken

[merry marsh]

Just size scale value from the original config is not being applied to LLL, it's because he's using an outdated field from before LLL 1.2.X. Both min and max size values are being applied correctly, the scale size is not

Dantor is aware, I reported it to him in dms right after LLL 1.2 came out

I found this out because I had just implemented the same feature in black mesa and it also broke when LLL updated

[spring creek]

Can custom scrap not use the Jetpack hold animation? I'm finally porting my stuff from LSDK and "HoldJetpack" isn't working for the grab animation

[urban narwhal]

is this available? or is there a way to do it through just manally entering the mods and hopefullly if you update the LLL config knows to use these versions if this is wat is generated

[jolly cargo]

How does adding new tags work?

[zenith flax]

no

[jolly cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-cat-stare-cat-look-staring-cat-gif-2234218620804077902

I know what you are

[zenith flax]

you dont add tags

[jolly cargo]

yeah you do

You didn't add Cheese right?

[zenith flax]

you

[jolly cargo]

not you alone

[zenith flax]

for someone asking for help you sure seem to not want it

[jolly cargo]

🤨

Are you going to be honest with me?

[zenith flax]

im being honest

if your not the creator of the content

dont fuck with the tags

[jolly cargo]

Well, I AM the creator of this content

[zenith flax]

which is

[jolly cargo]

Configuration

[zenith flax]

I have no interest in helping you at this point

good luck with all that

[idle ravine]

Tags aren't a thing you make per se they're just part of the content

You could add new tags to things if you get a reference to the thing

[zenith flax]

yeah but for the thing their making

they shouldn't be fucking with tags

[jolly cargo]

Why is that?

[idle ravine]

What's the goal here?

[zenith flax]

their making a lethal quantities type mod

[zenith flax]

because the way they fundamentally work is a way for the author to define what their content is

which is not you

[tall kindle]

it's completely okay for you to use the content tags an author puts on their content

whatever you're doing, probably has a better solution that tags

than*

[jolly cargo]

Well no, the point is the tags

[zenith flax]

hey if your gonna ask me a question then tell me my answer is wrong

dont ask me the question

[idle ravine]

I don't really see why tag tweaking is necessary here, if it's about matching configuration just referencing by name would be equivalent and more useful

[jolly cargo]

What if somebody wants to tweak the tags of moons?

[zenith flax]

for the third or forth time

they dont

[tall kindle]

^ yeah

no user will want/should do that

you can config the shit out of a moon to the point its unrecognizable (really shouldnt mess with that also tbf), but dont touch the tags

[jolly cargo]

Eh, I don't personally need to since I don't care that much but some other devs have told me it they want it

[zenith flax]

which devs

[jolly cargo]

You don't need to know

[zenith flax]

??

[jolly cargo]

I simply add the content that is requested of me

[zenith flax]

to be clear if i had to the ability to remove you from this channel you would be removed

[idle ravine]

I'm more curious what the goal of tweaking tags of some bit of content could accomplish that just changing the config can't do

[jolly cargo]

Well, you could add enemies, interiors, and scrap by tag
Additionally a player may find another connection, whether a lore thing or observation and would like to make a new tag and apply it
Additionally, from my experience, I've only really seen one dev use tags themself, if you use the filter command on all tags you will rarely see anything but the vanilla moons

[zenith flax]

users arent meant to add tags

[jolly cargo]

You may not have created tags with that intention no
but it is purely logical to use them as anyone would use a tag in a game

[zenith flax]

no no

to be clear

i made it with the intention for them not to

it's by design

i'd appreciate if you don't waste my time because if you start doing that I can update LLL to restrict that further

[idle ravine]

I can kinda see some use of adjusting tags for mods that might not apply them correctly, though it feels a bit roundabout to be arbitrarily applying tags to things via configuration vs just doing the configuration

[zenith flax]

its stupid

lc modding community has a weird relationship with user configeration

not everything should be user configurable

[jolly cargo]

eh, people are just lazy and like spending less time playing with settings

[zenith flax]

if a mods content isn't tagged correctly, thats on the dev to resolve

[idle ravine]

Eh, can agree to disagree, I think user customisation is a huge part of modding and it's not just LC that's this way

[zenith flax]

if a scrap mods spawning values are shit, they should make them not shit

[idle ravine]

Minecraft comes to mind with user configuration

[zenith flax]

I think user configuration is a huge part of LC modding because previously developers we're restricted in how they could tweak their content, especially in regards to working with other peoples content

hence the entire dynamic tag based system

[idle ravine]

Fair that the devs should fix things but failing that or with an abandoned mod configuration can supplement things, like I can't handle adding every single 914 mod compat myself so I provide the tools for users to tweak to their hearts content

[tall kindle]

im fine with configs, but im not sure about users putting tags arbitrarily on things

if i handle my mod using tags, and some user just randomly starts applying tags and stuff goes wrong, the blame goes on me etc lol

[jolly cargo]

I'm pretty far out on the configurability side, as long as its not crucial to the functionality of something such as IDs, names, or just generally really important I think most things should be configurable

Or if its really complex

[tall kindle]

content tags can be crucial to the functionality of some things

thats the problem lol

[idle ravine]

Something like a defined tag pack might be of value, since besides the vanilla tags there's no good consensus on what tags should be used

[jolly cargo]

that is only an issue if they are removed no?

[zenith flax]

That’s a valid opinion! When you make your own API your free to express these values

[jolly cargo]

I don't really need an api since general enemy and scrap data comes from vanilla

[zenith flax]

then you dont need to edit tags! glad to hear

[jolly cargo]

You don't have anything against dynamic injections using tags yeah?

like x enemy should go on wasteland moons

[zenith flax]

thats literally how it works

[jolly cargo]

oh yeah, for interiors, I do it by name bc ✨ spreadsheets ✨

[tall kindle]

and added

or edited

suddenly, my redwood cant do a feature i implemented because someone changed the size tag, or someone added a conflicting tag, or other stuff

why would u even wanna mess with tags, its not like users themselves are able to see em

[jolly cargo]

the what tag?

[tall kindle]

have u looked at the tags?

[jolly cargo]

I only look at moon ones

[tall kindle]

what if theres a mod that looks for snowy tagged moons

and u removed that tag

and replaced it with smthn else

[jolly cargo]

oh thats not possible

[tall kindle]

cuz you're doing whatever u want with the tags

[jolly cargo]

tags can only be added

[tall kindle]

then what if my mod checks for MULTIPLE tags

like

if my mod checks for a snowy moon and does x, then checks for forest moon and does y

you cant just keep conflicting tags together either

[jolly cargo]

ic

I'm guessing this is for your giant mod?

[tall kindle]

no this was purely an example of how someone would use the tags

[jolly cargo]

ah ok

My mod is after everything else so that example would be compatible

[zenith flax]

if you mess with other peoples tags your mod is gonna fall into the group of mods i suggest people dont use

[tall kindle]

if all you're doing is labelling mods, tags is not the way to do it

no one even sees tags so i dont know why you'd do it like that

[jolly cargo]

alright then

[rain garnet]

stop fitting hoomans D:

[tall kindle]

did u change how this worked recently? @zenith flax

ah author name alone doesnt work, i needed mod name too

[kindred bramble]

@zenith flax

Sorry for the interaction that happened earlier. I would like to preface with the fact that I have no understanding of how tags work and one of the requests through @jolly cargo was to find out how. What tags exist? What do they do? Why do they do it? Who adds Tags? I also had a personal interest in using the tags in a spreadsheet.

I am working with ImpulsiveLass on brainstorming a Very Heavy Config mod. I had suggested the feature of removing tags. The reason I did so was specifically with the example of Rosie's Moons and the Tag'd addition of Hoarder Buglings and Hoarder Queens. Because this happened once I wanted to have a fix just in case it happens again.

Since I am creating a Heavily Modified mod pack I am constantly rebalancing, reimagining, or replacing how a dev intended things to operate. The more control I have the easier it is, and the more cool features I can add.

I never had the intent to force any information out of anyone, just learn, and if possible gain the ability to further configure my mod pack.

I am sad to see that there was some harassment and conflict over Tag's. I feel responsible for this situation. I would like to apologize on behalf of ImpulsiveLass and my ignorance.

Honestly, I do not even know if Tag's would be helpful in this config or not. There is no documentation and it has not been explained to me as of yet.

Regardless we do heavily rely on the help of others to create mods and content for Lethal Company, I do not want nor intend to burn any bridges or be avoided because of my actions or the actions of others.

Once again I apologize and I hope for our continued positive relationship.

[zenith flax]

you dont need to apologise

not knowing how things work is fine lol

my issue was people not knowing how things work then proceeding to tell me im wrong when i explain it to them

[kindred bramble]

May I ask what tags are how they work and if they pertain to me at all?

[zenith flax]

tags are what authors use to define their content

[kindred bramble]

Will tags override weights that I set in configs?
How are they applied?

[zenith flax]

you know how in the lll config you can use Vanilla and Custom

[kindred bramble]

ok yeah

[tall kindle]

is weight still picked by heighest weight in the list of things that can affect it

[zenith flax]

thats cuz every piece of content in the game (unless its via LL or LE) has the Vanilla or Custom tag

by default vanilla has these tags
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WO77KGJplIEC64qmBClOgfEEoFxrhMurCEqe9FKod8I/edit?usp=sharing

[tall kindle]

(also are Custom and vanilla usable in content tags or planet names?)

i remember i inject into planetname the custom and vanilla and they work, but didnt work enemies

[midnight valve]

I just come to say, thank you very much for your efforts in LLL and for update 1.2.4, I don't know if there are any major problems in this update, but in the time that I have played, everything has gone well for me.

I hope you can rest enough after this update and come back with energy, enjoy Balatro. ✌️

[midnight valve]

@zenith flax

[tall kindle]

lmfao

[zenith flax]

planetname is for planet names 😭

[midnight valve]

Oops, I had the wrong person earlier. XD

[tall kindle]

okay so THATS why it wasnt working before lmao, odd that it worked for items, ill have to recheck if im tripping and i did put it into content tag for items

oh yeah i am tripping

[zenith flax]

im not taking responsability for that one 😭

[tall kindle]

yeah for hte longest time i thought enemy custom tag didnt work lmao

[kindred bramble]

Hmm so I imagine this question is completely dependent on the dev and when code loads but generally, Should my configurations have priority over tags.

[zenith flax]

yeah i checked it out at one point and was just like "nauur this is fine lol"

[kindred bramble]

If tags add enemies and I do not have that enemy on my list will it be ammended?

[zenith flax]

all LLL stuff is done very early

mostly

[tall kindle]

tags dont auto do anything themselves afaik

[abstract bobcat]

whens Misc. tag

[kindred bramble]

oh?!

[tall kindle]

you'd need another dev to make use of the tag

they're JUST labels

pretty sure anyway

its not like batby rewrote the entirety of the enemy registeration system for it to make sense in vanilla using his tags LOL

[merry marsh]

So if the config mod loads after LLL, will the configurations from that mod take precedence over the LLL tags?

[tall kindle]

should yeah

i edit my item's spawn weights using tags

[kindred bramble]

Also I do not know if this was reported by Lass but when we were testing item weights it seems like the LLL item injection system did not add weights for LL items if manually specified. It loads All automatically, but you can not filter.

So using the Scrap Text box does nothing at least with LL scrap.

Vanilla scrap was fine

[zenith flax]

ll stuff idk

i dont support that

[kindred bramble]

Forgive me I am confused. Don't you have support for LL?

[zenith flax]

not since 1.2

[tall kindle]

i think stopping LL from exploding is about as good as we'll get

[kindred bramble]

interesting so this may not be fixed until everything ports to LLL then?

[tall kindle]

LL is still very usable though, map objects, weathers (until mrov releases api), ship upgrades and unlockables are still LL reliant

[tall kindle]

what even is the problem, i didnt get from what u said

[kindred bramble]

Sorry let me try to explain better

So lets say we want to set a Scrap pool for... Titan, we are going to set wesleys toy store interior as the only interior here.

Now let's customize the scrap, I only want Toy Items here. I add all the vanilla scrap, I go to each scrap mod and I add their tou scraps.

LL scrap does not generate. Gnarpy is missing from LT, Other scrap from other LL mods is missing as well. Only Vanilla and LLL scrap generates.

[slim wind]

weathers (until mrov releases api)

we're getting closer 🥺

[kindred bramble]

Keep telling yourself that. Soon you will have BetaBetaWetherTweaksBetaBeta, and then you will rewrite the mod again

[slim wind]

i fear the day

what's worse is i actually thought about doing that

[plush wing]

[kindred bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-im-watching-you-i-am-watching-you-wwe-watch-out-gif-25856329

[slim wind]

I'M NOT DOING THAT 😭

but the api is coming

[kindred bramble]

so is winter.

haha

[slim wind]

i hope I'll get it ready before that lol

I'm like 95% there

[reef perch]

Does anyone know how to make so mobs interacts with doors? 🥹

[tall kindle]

It's the door stuff in enemytype

[plush wing]

EnemyType has something related to doors.

[tall kindle]

Give it a value

Multiplier

[soft eagle]

Does anyone know if customs moons are all loaded into RAM? I have a couple and the game uses around 11GB of memory which is roughly their filesize in total... Is it possible to make them load on demand when the level is selected or is this problematic given how the game is implemented? I have no problems currently, but one of my friends has less ram and struggles a bit with our modpack.

[waxen fog]

yeah with my profile I have 180 mods and I know I have too many moons so two of my friends can’t even open the game because of their RAM

it’s very unfortunate

[unique geode]

The only time the game used a lot of memory for me was when I had TooManyEmotes installed

If you use the option to have them all unlocked or if you have them all it uses around 5gb of memory alone

[waxen fog]

me and my group have used that for awhile with the all emotes unlocked. I guess just recently we added more moons which made it go overboard for them idk lol

[soft eagle]

I've tried the game with that mod disabled after I saw your message in the other thread, but unfortunately I couldn't see such a drastic reduction in memory usage, only around 200-300 MB. Maybe I'll try again and run it for a longer time...

[unique geode]

If you add Faster load it'll lower the ram usage for moon and interior mods

At the exchange of more disk space used

[unique geode]

Idk why it used so much for me LMAO

Even with faster load it was hungry

[waxen fog]

Yeah I have that but still I guess my profile is too much for some of my friends

[unique geode]

[waxen fog]

180 mods doesn’t even seem like a lot to me really idk

[unique geode]

I have 172 and my pack is okay

[waxen fog]

yeah and im fine too with mine but i have 32gb of ram

wbu?

[unique geode]

Yeah 32gb but I have a friend who plays on a laptop without problems so idk

[waxen fog]

hmmm

I was thinking maybe tolian moons are kinda hyper realistic

some@of them atleast

might use a lot not sure

but if you have faster loading it doesn’t even matter does it? It’s going to storage not ram

[unique geode]

Spectralis probably would it's got the largest assets

Yeah

[waxen fog]

Then I have no idea wtf. It’s not the moons then

Literally have no cosmetics mod. Just the orginal more suits mod which has always worked fine

[acoustic sonnet]

cant even open game as in it crashes because if its on a black screen you just gotta wait and it will eventually load

[waxen fog]

Nah can’t even open cuz it crashes is what my friend said

I told him the same thing about waiting but it’s not that

Game just opens in task manager and immediately closes

[acoustic sonnet]

maybe his firewall thinks its a crypto miner of something

[waxen fog]

not sure

he can open vanilla fine

[acoustic sonnet]

I say it thinks it a crypto miner because of the high ram

vanilla doesnt use high ram

[waxen fog]

ah

yeah maybe I have a lot of unoptimized mods

[acoustic sonnet]

also ive seen some computers block the game because of mirage

[waxen fog]

interesting

[acoustic sonnet]

because of the mic stuff

[waxen fog]

I just randomly thought it might be this one mod I have AEIOU company or something

because it runs a service in the background

it makes whatever you type in the chat text to speech

[acoustic sonnet]

that mod causes a lot of issues from what ive heard

[waxen fog]

gonna have to tell my friend to try disabling that

I was thinking maybe wendigos voice cloning but idk

[acoustic sonnet]

that too probably

[waxen fog]

do you think if I send a dependency string of my profile you could maybe just do a slight glance and see if anything comes to mind about bad mods or etc?

[acoustic sonnet]

i guess idk

not an expert

[stone crest]

is levelloader still broken, or back to 1.2.1?

[brisk schooner]

:3 heck u, Dyno

[red stratus]

since when did that have a message like a group chat

[unique geode]

1.2.4 is stable lol

[stone crest]

so we can actually play the game unlike 1.2.3 and 1.2.2?

[unique geode]

Yes

[brisk schooner]

I think its just cuz forum posts are threads

[unique geode]

1.2.2 and 1.2.3 worked fine too but had some issues, the game was never not playable

1.2.4 is actually stable without problems though

[stone crest]

nope it was unplayable, couldnt go to the company on 1.2.2 , and then you couldnt leave on 1.2.3. that seems unplayable to me

[unique geode]

There were mods that fixed it

[stone crest]

i didnt know lol.

[unique geode]

Lol

[stone crest]

anyways are there any other glitches ill need a mod to fix with (i already have item smart save,)

or is it finally completely good

[unique geode]

Smart Item Saving isn't necessary with 1.2.4 unless you want it's additional features it has

[stone crest]

eh yeah i want them (also im too lazy to remove it lol), anyways thanks

[unique geode]

Lol all good

[spring creek]

Sorry to bother about this again, but I can't seem to figure out why this isn't working. Is there something wrong with the HoldJetpack animation for scrap?

[zenith flax]

no?

[zenith flax]

yes custom moons are loaded into ram at all times, unfortunately required due to how modding works with unity

[unique geode]

Well Faster Load aims to reduce ram usage and improve boot times with how it works

But yeah some mods it just doesn't it seems, like with TME using so much ram for me

[zenith flax]

faster absolutely

[idle ravine]

I assume it only reduces ram usage in the sense of no longer having to decompress since it caches it

[zenith flax]

dont know how it would improve on ram usage

[unique geode]

Probably this yeah

[idle ravine]

Not actually saving ram in use

[zenith flax]

i guess but that would only be initially?

yee

[unique geode]

I did let Flip know about the mod using so much ram and he plans to fix it so it only uses Ram when performing emotes instead of the game just caching them all in ram when you have them all unlocked XD

I could not believe it was using 5gb of ram

LOL

[idle ravine]

Simply tank it with 32 GBs

[unique geode]

Yeah I have 32gbs of ram but still not everyone I play with does

XD

I found out for the funniest reason and it was cus I disabled it after someone got the bug where they got sent to the Shadow Realm

[chrome notch]

maybe it's because you're always combative towards them and don't really try to answer their questions? i really respect you and your work, but the way you handle your interactions with that person is not professional at all. you aren't obligated to respond to or cooperate with anyone, either completely ignore them or give full answers, but what you're doing now only serves to egg things on

[zenith flax]

I understand out of context it might look a lot worse than it is but I promise I have given them a lot of time and support

[unique geode]

Yeah Batby actually spent a lot of time trying to help them over the past few days

[zenith flax]

months

[unique geode]

Yeah I saw you were very active with them over the past few days though before what happened last night, and your frustrations were valid cus they simply wouldn't listen to you lol

[chrome notch]

i have seen a lot of the context, i lurk in this server frequently, and i completely understand where you're coming from, but the only thing that's being done in those interactions is stirring the pot. like i said, you don't have to respond, and i suggest you stop if it's taking a toll on you or you feel they're being ungrateful