Lethal Level Loader [Custom Content Loading API]

[zenith flax]

I'll see what I can do once more prominant fires are put out

[calm eagle]

We're all chefs here

[jolly cargo]

Is it just text?

Or is that why they don't register

[calm eagle]

So LLL is just counting the LE moons as vanilla bc they're present already, correct?

[low dock]

the majority of us are just users and not chefs but yes true
i mean i dunno i work in kitchens thats why it fucks me up

[fallow fern]

Am I just misunderstanding something, or is the LLL config in a different place from the other ones?

[zenith flax]

if i went to my closest, tagged all my clothes as "my current clothes", went and bought new clothes and tagged them as "my new clothes" that would be correct

if someone snuck into my closet and put new clothes in the day before...

[fallow fern]

I'm in the r2modman config editor and cant find it

Oh wait do I need to load into a lobby first

[jolly cargo]

🙄

just trying to figure out why modded moons dont appear

[zenith flax]

yeah gonna look into that

ohhh

ok i know why

[calm eagle]

That's fair! I'm used to picturing us all as modders bc this is the dev resources area lol

[low dock]

i just get in here cause i do lots of testing when i am active

so i can give some feedback and sometimes help while stuff is happening

oh and i like to learn

[zenith flax]

this can probably be fixed by the end of the day

[low dock]

lol i dunno i've seen such deep pain in every head chef i've ever known

[gaunt coyote]

V1.1.2 Testing
Skinwalkers still causing launch to hang

[tawny pier]

Sorry if this is a dumb question. I'm making a custom interior and I dont know too much about scrap spawns yet, but I know there are... 3 types? (General, SmallItems and TableItems)

Is it what this part refers to with the "ItemGroups"?

LethalLevelLoader now correctly restores references to base game ItemGroup's found in Custom DungeonFlow's

If so, what was the issue with custom interiors and their ItemGroups and how does LLL fix them?

[fallow fern]

Here's my log of opening a lobby and landing on an LE moon

I'm pretty sure all LLL moons are showing up, but not LE ones

Though I can still route to them

v1.1.2 btw

[zenith flax]

Need full log

[idle ravine]

The base game has a "bug" where it compares the data hash of the item groups instead of the actual data inside it, doesn't break anything on zeekers end since the reference will match but even if you use an identical item group the game won't consider it the same

Or if you use the ones from a decompile, they'll get included as a new data asset and be considered different

[gaunt coyote]

sorry discord is truncating it, will see if I can get this

[fallow fern]

Landing on Asteroid13 from Wesleys Moons works fine, but landing on Infernis from the same mod gets stuck on Random Seed

[low dock]

i am a chef tho i just dont make mods (yet) so that's probably a good point. most of us here have a thing

[gaunt coyote]

Skinwalkers Issue Logfile

[jolly cargo]

That would be lovely thanks

[tawny pier]

So how does that bug affect on a gameplay scenario? Scrap does spawn on custom interiors

[zenith flax]

Log please

[idle ravine]

There's a set of scrap that has no assigned type, which will just spawn on any scrap spawn point, but scrap with groups assigned will fail the comparison and fail to spawn (which also reduces the scrap count). The LLL change fixes that

[tawny pier]

Ohhh I get it. Good news then. I hope that helps with the scrap density since it seems to be a big issue with all custom interiors right now

[main star]

La Mao, modafukin moons are broke as shiet, time to wait the next 2 days for them all to update

[fallow fern]

Order of events in this log:

• Start game
• Open lobby on existing save
• Route to infernis, lands with no issues? its foggy
  • last time I routed to asteroid13 and then infernis and it got stuck
• Quit to main menu
• Delete file 2 and make a new save on it
• Route to infernis
• Gets stuck on random seed
• quit to main menu
• close game
  lemme know if you want this tested in another way

[zenith flax]

le and lecore or just lecore

[fallow fern]

LE and LECore

[zenith flax]

heard

[fallow fern]

its 3.0.6 of this modpack:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Easyidle123/Easyidles_Quality_Moons/

• 1.1.2 and CompanyExecutive which gives you 1,000,000 credits

[fallow fern]

Order of events in this log:

• start game
• make new save
• route to infernis, lands successfully
• goes to orbit and routes to asteroid 13, lands successfully
• goes to orbit and routes to infernis again, lands successfully
• goes to orbit and lands on infernis again, lands succesfully
• quits without saving (its day 0) and reopens the same save
• route to infernis, gets stuck on random seed
• at log lines:

[Info   : Unity Log] clip index: 2; current planet: 46 Infernis
[Info   : Unity Log] Current ship ambience clips length: 12
[Info   : Unity Log] clip index: 10; current planet: 46 Infernis```
- wait a bit then quits save
- reopens save
- route to asteroid13, gets stuck again on random seed
  - at log lines:
```[Info   :LethalExpansion(core)] Moving 3 EntranceTeleport(s) to scene
[Error  : Unity Log] InvalidCastException: Specified cast is not valid.
Stack trace:
LethalLevelLoader.LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager.__rpc_handler_12573863 (Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour target, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader reader, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams rpcParams) (at <0ee8da500aa942f89ba9acde1681b0ff>:IL_007B)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers.Handle (Unity.Netcode.NetworkContext& context, Unity.Netcode.RpcMetadata& metadata, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader& payload, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams& rpcParams) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_004E)
Rethrow as Exception: Unhandled RPC exception!
UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers:Handle(NetworkContext&, RpcMetadata&, FastBufferReader&, __RpcParams&)
Unity.Netcode.ServerRpcMessage:Handle(NetworkContext&)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour:__endSendServerRpc(FastBufferWriter&, UInt32, ServerRpcParams, RpcDelivery)
LethalLevelLoader.LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager:GetRandomExtendedDungeonFlowServerRpc()
LethalLevelLoader.DungeonLoader:SelectDungeon()
LethalLevelLoader.Patches:InjectHostDungeonFlowSelection()
RoundManager:DMD<RoundManager::GenerateNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager, Int32, Int32)
RoundManager:__rpc_handler_1193916134(NetworkBehaviour, FastBufferReader, __RpcParams)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers:Handle(NetworkContext&, RpcMetadata&, FastBufferReader&, __RpcParams&)
Unity.Netcode.ClientRpcMessage:Handle(NetworkContext&)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour:__endSendClientRpc(FastBufferWriter&, UInt32, ClientRpcParams, RpcDelivery)
RoundManager:DMD<RoundManager::GenerateNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager, Int32, Int32)
<LoadNewLevelWait>d__115:MoveNext()
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)

[Info   : Unity Log] Now listening to dungeon generator status.
[Warning: Unity Log] [Dissonance:Recording] (05:19:02.034) BasePreprocessingPipeline: Lost 480 samples in the preprocessor (buffer full), injecting silence to compensate
[Warning: Unity Log] [Dissonance:Recording] (05:19:02.035) BasePreprocessingPipeline: Lost 480 samples in the preprocessor (buffer full), injecting silence to compensate
[Warning: Unity Log] [Dissonance:Recording] (05:19:02.036) CapturePipelineManager: Detected a frame skip, forcing capture pipeline reset (Delta Time:0.2128787)
[Warning: Unity Log] [Dissonance:Recording] (05:19:02.560) BasePreprocessingPipeline: Lost 480 samples in the preprocessor (buffer full), injecting silence to compensate
[Warning: Unity Log] [Dissonance:Recording] (05:19:02.561) CapturePipelineManager: Detected a frame skip, forcing capture pipeline reset (Delta Time:0.2345695)
[Info   : Unity Log] clip index: 9; current planet: 57 Asteroid-13
[Info   : Unity Log] Current ship ambience clips length: 12```
- Quit lobby
- Quit game

Not sure how relevant / useful this all is but hopefully there's good data

[old pebble]

love the amount of The Bear references in here

phenomenal show

[zenith flax]

https://tenor.com/view/put-on-a-smile-matty-matheson-bone-broth-brigade-oxtail-pho-smiling-pose-pose-for-the-camera-gif-26328120

[south hawk]

After the update, I don't see the moon from LE

[fallow fern]

I'd like my modpack to default to sorting / filtering by price, but I don't want the full moons list overriding someone else's modpack configs. Would this be an issue if i bundled the LLL config in my modpack? And if so, would it be possible to have the LethalLevelLoader core settings and the settings of the moons split into two configs at some point down the line?

[oblique summit]

Thank goodness I wan't the only one getting this error.

[south hawk]

Is there a priority in the config for demonstrating moons from LLL or LE?

[south hawk]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gloveman23/MoonPriceDisplay/
Use it

Although the sorting idea sounds interesting

But it’s better that they are sorted by complexity than by price

[fallow fern]

I'd rather they be sorted by price

right now they're not really sorted in any particular way

I could possibly sort by difficulty instead but more people seem to think price is the way to go

[fallow fern]

This is interesting, but seems redundant when preview price is a command

Bug
I've run the commands
filter last travelled
sort last travelled
preview last travelled
filter quota - note, pressing enter with this doesn't error or do anything but instead leaves all text inputted, which is strange
I'm aware not all of these commands seem like they should do something, just poking around
after doing all of these, entering "moons" seems to not do anything, even after exiting and reopening the terminal

here's the log. I landed on experimentation once before I started trying commands out
@zenith flax I understand this is probably low on the priority list right now, just thought I'd make you aware

Update: Even after closing the save and making a new one, the moons command is still broken

[south hawk]

My loading stuck on the very first card

018d875a-09ad-30c6-e9a0-daf0c74f517c

[zenith flax]

https://tenor.com/view/desmondpacito-cooking-chef-gif-12378159

[south hawk]

Harosh!

He's already cooking!

True mod chef, we believe in you

[zenith flax]

Do you think the issues regarding using a translation mod are resolved now?

Hard for me to check

[south hawk]

It seems like yes and no

I don't see the moon LE

[zenith flax]

oh yeah thatsa me issue

[south hawk]

But I can choose LE moons

I think the problem is solved

You are just a magician

[hushed sky]

@zenith flax so i shouldn't have march as a default if its buggy at moment cause it worked before

[zenith flax]

its probably fine?

i hate march man

its possible march might have some inconsistent results in simulate menu and maybeeeeee facility set to 600?

@fallow fern if you don't mind can you see if this fixes it (moons breaking from quota related stuff)

[hushed sky]

yeah i can't use march for some reason

[south hawk]

I want too!

[zenith flax]

oh no the lethal expansion stuff will work fine in that dll forsure 😛

[zenith flax]

wym

[south hawk]

Then I went to check with him

[hushed sky]

something about can't use specific cast

[zenith flax]

what does it look like when u simulate march and offense

[hushed sky]

i just get stuck at seed screen on march and offense is fine

[Error  : Unity Log] InvalidCastException: Specified cast is not valid.
Stack trace:
LethalLevelLoader.LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager.__rpc_handler_12573863 (Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour target, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader reader, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams rpcParams) (at <0ee8da500aa942f89ba9acde1681b0ff>:IL_007B)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers.Handle (Unity.Netcode.NetworkContext& context, Unity.Netcode.RpcMetadata& metadata, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader& payload, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams& rpcParams) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_004E)
Rethrow as Exception: Unhandled RPC exception!
UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers:Handle(NetworkContext&, RpcMetadata&, FastBufferReader&, __RpcParams&)
Unity.Netcode.ServerRpcMessage:Handle(NetworkContext&)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour:__endSendServerRpc(FastBufferWriter&, UInt32, ServerRpcParams, RpcDelivery)
LethalLevelLoader.LethalLevelLoaderNetworkManager:GetRandomExtendedDungeonFlowServerRpc()
LethalLevelLoader.DungeonLoader:SelectDungeon()
LethalLevelLoader.Patches:InjectHostDungeonFlowSelection()
RoundManager:DMD<RoundManager::GenerateNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager, Int32, Int32)
RoundManager:__rpc_handler_1193916134(NetworkBehaviour, FastBufferReader, __RpcParams)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers:Handle(NetworkContext&, RpcMetadata&, FastBufferReader&, __RpcParams&)
Unity.Netcode.ClientRpcMessage:Handle(NetworkContext&)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour:__endSendClientRpc(FastBufferWriter&, UInt32, ClientRpcParams, RpcDelivery)
RoundManager:DMD<RoundManager::GenerateNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager, Int32, Int32)
<LoadNewLevelWait>d__115:MoveNext()
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)

[Info   : Unity Log] Now listening to dungeon generator status.```

[zenith flax]

do u know what i mean by simulate

[hushed sky]

i don't think i do

[zenith flax]

go into terminal and go simulate march and simulate offense

[hushed sky]

oh gotcha

[crystal edge]

currently running 38 mods (iirc), simulated march just fine. routed and landed, seed loaded v quick

log not showing anything overly concerning, just the standard warnings

[south hawk]

Good sh**t!!!!

It works

[crystal edge]

going to try only running more interiors on march and see if i get any issues

[south hawk]

But my question is, what is the preview below? Some sort of sorting?

[fallow fern]

Sure thing

also, suggestion: "filter list" or "filter info" or something to view all available filters. some are easy to guess like "forest", but apparently egypt has the tag "egypt" and it'd be nice not to have to dig through every mod to find them

Also just a general command to see acceptable inputs for filter, sort, and preview

unless that's already in the game

[hushed sky]

it works

i didn't know that was a thing

lol

[zenith flax]

new to this update

[south hawk]

But now https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gloveman23/MoonPriceDisplay/
completely ignored

[zenith flax]

elaborate

[south hawk]

Will have to delete

Or is it possible to create compatibility with it? The guys and I are comfortable

[zenith flax]

type preview price

[south hawk]

Oh shit, magic

[hushed sky]

the ship lands on simulate march and gets passed seed

[south hawk]

But who will know about this team?

Can I make it default?

I would then remove that mod

[zenith flax]

yeee but is bunker in the possible options

[zenith flax]

in the config yes

[south hawk]

good 👌

[hushed sky]

yep thank you batby gonna test other stuff then push update

[zenith flax]

but like

does march work

you said it doesnt

sir we didnt change anything 😭

[fallow fern]

are there any known broken commands? on 1.1.2 after trying a few things with sort / filter and tags i managed to make every command no longer work that previously was

[fading wyvern]

poor batbys brain is melting

[south hawk]

I just launched on March

I was given the generation by Scoopy

[zenith flax]

nothing is meant to break like that

does it still do it with that dll

[fallow fern]

I'm gonna check right now

I did enter some pretty dumb commands

like sort tag

sort filter

filter kept saying "this item is not in stock" after i did a few things

and sort was just "DATA CORRUPTED OR OVERWRITTEN"

[zenith flax]

Yee

[fallow fern]

Filter quota?

[south hawk]

I can't figure out the reason for the problem, why the "EJECT" command doesn't work

[fallow fern]

out of curiosity, what is sort tag supposed to be used with

[sullen coral]

Literally Batby's situation rn

Tested all the ins and outs of LethalLevelLoader, customers walked in with actual modules

Everything burst into flames

[fallow fern]

I remember hearing sort quota and sort run would be broken

[sullen coral]

some modules not LLL, but I digress

[fallow fern]

last travelled isn't compatible with this object for sort, preview, or filter

[fallow fern]

I haven't been able to recreate the issues I had, seems like it was fixed

Filter vanilla shows a bunch of LE moons, I heard that was known

in the readme, Vanilla is put as Preview, not filter

and Quota is put in Sort, not filter

I also can't tell what sort [tag] should be used for, or what filter quota is even doing

but it seems like things are working!

uhoh

all the LE moons show as 0 price

[zenith flax]

makes sense ty

uh ohs are fine but anything that needs fixing either needs to be fixed in the next 4 or so hours or in like 4 and a half days

[fallow fern]

yeah, right

looks like sewer, office, castle, bunker, and SCP are all working with simulate

only thing thats broken (and was throwing out errors in the log) was scarlet devil mansion

I'm gonna see if I can get the softlock on LE moons again

Yep

Landing on an LE moon, quitting to the menu**, and then trying again gets stuck on random seed still

[zenith flax]

log

[south hawk]

@zenith flax I need your eyes

To understand why the "eject" command does not work

But I guess this problem is related to GI or LLL or AC
But this is not accurate, one of them is an imposter

[fallow fern]

I think i landed twice, quit while landing the 2nd time, then reopened the save and tried to land again

when it was stuck on the seed, i waited for a couple minutes then quit to the main menu and closed the game

[olive sonnet]

I changed the sort and filter for the moons once, and now I cant see LE moons anymore

😧

where they go

[fallow fern]

what commands did you use?

and are you on 1.1.2, or the most recent dll sent in this channel?

I can try to replicate

[olive sonnet]

Im on 1.1.2

[fallow fern]

For me I couldn't see any of the LE moons in 1.1.2

[fallow fern]

try this

[olive sonnet]

Yea I see the moons now thanks

But prices still dont work :(

Im assuming this will be ironed out in the next couple of days

[fallow fern]

I think batby said they're gonna be gone for a few days after today (aka in 4ish hours)?

[hushed sky]

@zenith flax i figured it out i put the @ in the config pre setup and it didn't like that

[zenith flax]

ohhh right

yeah either add directly to your extendeddungeonflow or use my config parsing functions

or just use the auto config unless you wanna disable it

[hushed sky]

oh auto config does that sync with clients too ?

[zenith flax]

it does not 😔

but lll now has host only dungeonflow and dungeonsize selection

which helps

[hushed sky]

oh yeah that will help

[zenith flax]

but yeah if you wanna do your own config stuff you can choose to disable the autoconfig and/or use my functions

[hushed sky]

i like to customize 🙂

thanks again for the LLL its been great

@zenith flax do i just slap this in my script and it will setup the auto config want to at lest test it

public bool generateAutomaticConfigurationOptions = true;

[zenith flax]

its enabled by default

you can set it to false if you don't want it

[hushed sky]

oh

nice

[south hawk]

Same error on the latest version in ThunderStore

I checked again, this time I arrived on VOW

Waiting for update :3

[south hawk]

This helped me, but I'd rather wait for the official update

[hushed sky]

how do you have the config part of script setup

[south hawk]

There is no

Standard probably

I don't know

018d87b7-9e39-05fa-f3e1-0f9dfab73bac

I can only do this, the entire config is in the assembly code

[hushed sky]

oh gotcha will take a look

sorry miss understood sorry

[zenith flax]

yknow if everyone just stopped doing the things that cause issues we'd all have less problems

[south hawk]

I just disabled mods in my build, checking why the "EJECT" command did not work.

The imposter turned out to be LLL

[hexed mesa]

Yknow if everyone just stopped writing code we'd all have less problems

[south hawk]

You are so cool 😭

[fading wyvern]

if everyone just made everything in LLL and nothing else we'd be green

[south hawk]

I think so too, when I initially saw the LLL project

I thought everything, all the moons, there would be generations on it

And loot and so on and everything will work stably

But not if LE LE core and a bunch of other custom things that depend on them

for the first time during the installation days I suffered and sat only on LLL

Then I decided to implement LE slowly, and then I added 170 mods

And he began to find errors, correct them - create discussions on GitHub and it seems to be normal

[low dock]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[low dock]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-gif-27108854

[zenith flax]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/

Version 1.1.0.3

• Introduced initial support for LethalExpansion moons.
• Fixed oversight were Dungeons were not correctly being patched over multiple playthroughs in a single session.
• Fixed oversight were the LethalLevelLoader NetworkManager was not being created on subsequent playthroughs in a single session.
• Fixed an issue were the Terminal would break if filters reduced the MoonsCatalogue to one or zero listings.

lethal expansion route prices might still be 0 because of how lethalexpansion references their moons via selectablelevel.levelid

it's somewhat more of a problem on their end, at the very least i probably can't touch it until next week

[fading wyvern]

what does initial support mean, no need for Core?

[zenith flax]

apologies for any inconvenience

[zenith flax]

no you need core

i do stuff to specificially adopt them into LLL now

no more sneaking in

[fading wyvern]

ahhh

[zenith flax]

previous versions worked unintentionally because i setup things well enough lol

[fading wyvern]

we love hacky solutions

[sullen coral]

Ultimately with LE being deprecated moons should strive to change over anyways

But easier said than done

[fading wyvern]

especially now that we can start with documentation

[sullen coral]

If Kast doesn't get an update by the time LLL gets documents, I might port it myself

[carmine sable]

Honestly, can't wait for this, already want to start working in LLL

[young acorn]

1.1.3 is out for r2modman yippep

[hexed mesa]

@zenith flax dont forget the beautiful LLL setup tutorial i gave you

it honestly helped @maiden elm set it up, or at the least did something im pretty sure

[young acorn]

hope a setting is added to sort of hide the results from simulate (make the possible flows ambigious instead of directly saying the names of them)

preview command doesn't seem to work

[zenith flax]

?

[young acorn]

whenever i type "preview [something]" into the terminal, it just gives me [There was no action supplied with the word.]

[zenith flax]

what are you trying

[young acorn]

preview all and preview difficulty i've tried

[carmine sable]

you have a setup tutorial?

[young acorn]

actually it seems that none of the commands are working suddenly after i restarted the game? i was able to use sort price and sort difficulty before, now they aren't working

i will attempt restarting my game again surely that will work

[native drift]

Now I'm getting a strange issue where some of the levels won't register on the terminal; I have Atlas Abyss (LLL dependent moon) alongside Atlantica (LECore dependent moon) but whenever I type in Atlas, it wasnts to go to Atlantica no matter what

[unborn cairn]

That’s because lethal company usually uses the first 3 letters from the moon

or most things I think actually

[native drift]

before it wasn't an issue so 🤷

[unborn cairn]

you might have to type the whole name out

[native drift]

I tried, still no dice

[unborn cairn]

Rough

[native drift]

The terminal worked LLL 1.1.2.... but I had the issue where I'd get stuck at the Random Seed screen, now the terminal doesn't work but I could load into a level 😆

ah well, just gotta see if there's an update later today or tomorrow

I love the fast updates though, I'm usually used to older games where modders just pack up and leave so there's no real expectation for updates, I appreciate the creator's fast response 🫡

[south hawk]

What happened to the LE moons?

They've all become free

Is this how you take revenge on them? xd

[earnest turtle]

such a good moon, hyped for this!

@south hawk

[maiden elm]

Yeah that tutorial was pretty helpful

[south hawk]

How can I get the old prices back???

Why did they become free???

I select the moon - press enter - it is available

Although it should cost 900 for example

[earnest turtle]

Okay so I'm literally just a bystander, but the way I understand it is:
there is two frameworks at the moment for adding custom moons to the game. LethalLevelLoader and LethalExpansion.

the two are not completely compatible yet, you either use one or the other

LLL is more recommended, because it seems that that's the one that's here to stay

[tall kindle]

Yeah lethal expansion is practically deprecated

[earnest turtle]

eventually (hopefully) we'll have all the LE moons ported over to LLL

until then, don't use them

or only use them

[pearl orchid]

With updates to come, will it be a seemless transition for LE moons to LLL?

[earnest turtle]

if you want prices

[pearl orchid]

I'm currently avoiding any moons that use LE

[unborn cairn]

funny cus it’s out of date but some of the best custom moons to hit LC just dropped on LE 😭

[earnest turtle]

@south hawk I guess you could also subtract their prices from your balance when you're routing to them if there is a mod that allows for that

it's a goofy idea but probably works

[unborn cairn]

Late game upgrades let’s you force credits

or course that goes both ways tho

[earnest turtle]

wdym?

what's the other way?

[earnest turtle]

yea that works

[south hawk]

My player has

I have

Why is the weather out of sync?

[unborn cairn]

As in to like cheat

[earnest turtle]

oh yeah for sure

but then going to Kast for free is also cheating i guess

[south hawk]

hey, I'm here :с

[pearl orchid]

Could be a mod causing it

Don't have any idea as to which though

I've had it happen on very rare occasions
It's a desync side effect

[unborn cairn]

Such is true…

[earnest turtle]

Is LLL the mod that handles interiors as well? or is that a different one?

[tall kindle]

If you don't wanna go for free, just order a bunch of shovels or whatever until the price matches and let the dropping ship leave

[south hawk]

This is LLL

This didn't happen before

[south hawk]

What?

[tall kindle]

Kast costs 900 or whatever, just buy 10 of whatever costs 90 in the shop and don't collect the item

You don't need some cheat mod to force credits up and down

Just use the mechanics given to dump your money if you really wanna be fair

[pearl orchid]

I can't provide a solution

[south hawk]

I don't understand anything what you mean

The problem I have is that the moons have become free

Why should I buy anything?

???????

In the party, the "eject" command still doesn't work

[void sorrel]

is LLL still bugging with skinwalker?

[tall kindle]

the moons being free itself can't be helped right now, the easiest solution to pretend that you're paying for the moons is to buy stuff from the shop equivalent to the moons price and not picking the stuff up

[slim wind]

or not updating for now

[tall kindle]

^

[south hawk]

It’s like this, I’d rather roll back to the old version

[slim wind]

this line is just perfect

[tall kindle]

Someone else was going on about using lgu's forcecredit or whatever lol

[haughty olive]

is it safe to use lll v1.1.3? everyones talking about it being buggy

[south hawk]

Yes and no

[alpine heart]

is this possible?

[south hawk]

Did I need to remove the LLL config?

Because I haven't seen anything like this

[alpine heart]

idk maybe. this is in LLL's config for me

[earnest turtle]

I hope so, cause I want mine the same way

[slim wind]

this is the default one?

[alpine heart]

no, the default is only weather

[alpine heart]

it doesn't work

[slim wind]

🤔

check what happens using All

[void sorrel]

i see the section in my config

just added price to the display so i sure hope it works

[alpine heart]

when i do like #1193461151636398080 message , i get this

and the config changes to this

[alpine heart]

i'll try now

[void sorrel]

interesting how it changes to history when the default is weather

[earnest turtle]

I mean, it will display price, difficulty, weather and history as well

no?

[void sorrel]

all should show every option im sure.

[alpine heart]

no it doesn't seem that way

it looks just like i want it

[void sorrel]

tho id personally not want it showing vanilla cause in my map list one of the moons is modded but it thinks its vanilla

oh nice, shows price difficulty and weather

[alpine heart]

yup nice

[slim wind]

LE moons don't show up?

[earnest turtle]

lmao

[alpine heart]

they do. look at last moon in my terminal

oh shit nvm

[slim wind]

isn't secret labs on LLL?

yeah

[void sorrel]

yeah so is the custom dungeon for it

[alpine heart]

idk then. i don't use LE

[void sorrel]

aquatis is LE

i can run my pack rq and see if it shows up

and it looks like LE moons are showing up again

[strange trail]

so basically they show up but their prices will always be free if LLL is on?

[void sorrel]

aquatis was always free for me before so i cant really test that. otherwise ive got no clue

[strange trail]

gonna stay on old ver for now then

[earnest turtle]

I think this screenshot is relevant here

#1193461151636398080 message

[arctic matrix]

hi guys, my terminal isn't working with LLL 1.1.3, and 1.1.2 only lists vanilla moons but I have over 50 custom moons

should I try a different version?

[slim wind]

fall back below 1.1.0

[earnest turtle]

didn't even know there were that many what

[void sorrel]

My LE moons are showing up with the LLL moons now so it may have been fixed

[strange trail]

there's like 130 moon mods

[arctic matrix]

just dafis mega moon pack has over 20 very small simple ones

[earnest turtle]

and do you have LE disabled during that?

[void sorrel]

also if you go into the LLL config after an initial launch it has specific sections where you can input the cost so rather than free it will actually have the normal price

[earnest turtle]

or how do you make both work

[void sorrel]

I do not

I have both enabled

[earnest turtle]

Le, Lecore, and Lll?

[strange trail]

so you can set a price in LLL for LE moons as a bandaid fix?

[void sorrel]

seems like it from what i see in the config

[earnest turtle]

thanks I love you

[strange trail]

ya but if its not much to ask can you test if it works? 👀

[void sorrel]

sure give me a sec. ill make aquatis cost a specific amount

[strange trail]

pog

thanks a lot

[void sorrel]

for reference this is what im setting cost as before i go into game

usually its just 0 for that moon in the first place

[strange trail]

ya

[void sorrel]

next thing id have to check is if the seed hangup still happens on vanilla moons cause i want to use LLL moons with my buddy this weekend as well as vanilla and the skinwalker

[earnest turtle]

In what case does that happen?

[arctic matrix]

when loading a custom interior or vanilla?

[void sorrel]

it seems i have success

[void sorrel]

it was vanilla moons in general. like landing on Experimentation

[earnest turtle]

is unstable a difficulty level?

[slim wind]

nicee

[void sorrel]

yeah. its the peter griffon house moon which is always hell to go to

[strange trail]

hell yea

thanks again

[void sorrel]

oh cool skinwalker and LLL are playing nice again

[earnest turtle]

really? lmao

[arctic matrix]

how can you tell? from the console?

[earnest turtle]

I kinda wrote it off for being a meme

but I might try now

[void sorrel]

both the console and the fact that it actually loaded instead of getting stuck in a random seed loop

now im gonna see if i cant figure out a custom solution to that annoying assignments issue which isnt related to this channel

[zenith flax]

Skinwalker never had any issues afaik.

Was just the last thing being logged due to a seperate issue

[pearl orchid]

Yeah, I've never run into issues with it either

[void sorrel]

kept complaining about "folder does not exist" and for some reason it only happened on vanilla moons when LLL was installed/enabled

thats why im saying "playing nice" i already know it was LLL not skinwalker

[zenith flax]

Yeah, don't think that was necessarily an issue per say, a byproduct of other stuff not working

[void sorrel]

true. tho it strangely went away when i loaded the same pack with skinwalker disabled lol

like for me it actually loaded the world and didnt get looped

[arctic matrix]

LLL isn't compatible with Dafini-Dafis_Mega_Moon_Pack_Emporium-1.3.26 after today

it's a huge active custom moon pack.

when I try the 'moons' command, it doesn't work and I get this error:

Stack trace:
LethalLevelLoader.TerminalManager.RefreshExtendedLevelGroups () (at <2fc748f7d12e40a992508e15339e7772>:IL_0001)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches.TerminalLoadNewNode_Prefix (Terminal __instance, TerminalNode& node) (at <2fc748f7d12e40a992508e15339e7772>:IL_0017)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMD<Terminal::LoadNewNode>(Terminal,TerminalNode)
Terminal.OnSubmit () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_00EA)
UnityEngine.Events.InvokableCall.Invoke () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0010)
UnityEngine.Events.UnityEvent`1[T0].Invoke (T0 arg0) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0049)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.SendOnEndEdit () (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_000E)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.ReleaseSelection () (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_001B)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.DeactivateInputField (System.Boolean clearSelection) (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_00B0)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.OnUpdateSelected (UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData) (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_007C)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute (UnityEngine.EventSystems.IUpdateSelectedHandler handler, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData) (at <17de86d66286445fa95af59fa8fa644d>:IL_0000)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute[T] (UnityEngine.GameObject target, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData, UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents+EventFunction`1[T1] functor) (at <17de86d66286445fa95af59fa8fa644d>:IL_0067)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.EventSystem:Update()```

[iron quiver]

Break time?

[south hawk]

@zenith flax regarding free custom planets, will there be a solution? 😭

[void sorrel]

check the LLL config to see if the custom moons are listed in it. if they are you can configure the moon price

[south hawk]

So prices should be automatically adjusted there

[void sorrel]

this is what i did here for testing that

they are in some cases. if the prices are configured already just set it to true for that moon

if not just set to true and configure to the correct or desired cost

if the moon is missing from the config you may need to run the game so the config can update

[vagrant sundial]

Is there a fix for enemies spawning outside? This happens on LE and LLL moons. I use the Explorations modpack with LLL updated to 1.1.3

[void sorrel]

i think there is legitimately a mod just part of that pack doing it

i know there is one that does that for sure, whether its part of that pack or not i do not know

[vagrant sundial]

It didn't happen before LLL 1.1

[void sorrel]

im getting the mod pack rn to see if its part of it or not

they may have added the mod to the pack at some point

is the screenshot on pyramid?

[vagrant sundial]

I made the modpack, but issue just started happening today while i was testing for the next update which is pretty much just a fix with LLL

[void sorrel]

or egypt

[vagrant sundial]

egypt

[void sorrel]

oh lol didnt realize you made the pack

[vagrant sundial]

but it works on all the other moons for me as well in the pack

[void sorrel]

let me check your cfg rq

[fleet python]

🤯

[void sorrel]

think i found it lol

let me open mine in the correct section

oh boy

[vagrant sundial]

what is it

[void sorrel]

so i think you have to config each moon seperately for that fix

[vagrant sundial]

doesn't sound very fun

[void sorrel]

unless im reading this part wrong it looks like it decides what can spawn outside during the day

[vagrant sundial]

oh Daytime Enemies should be the circuit bees, the manticoils and the roaming locausts

[void sorrel]

should normally be ignored in the config unless you set it to use that config

[vagrant sundial]

I have to enable the config to change the planet price right?

[iron quiver]

Oh damn you’re the sf Desat Orion and Aquatis are peak

[void sorrel]

thunderstore keeps crashing lol

[vagrant sundial]

great that you like them!

[void sorrel]

this is basically what i enabled to get the prices working correctly if i wanted the override

where it says enable content configuration

it would have to be turned on for each moon you intend to modify with LLL's config

[low dock]

lethalquantities might be why im not having this issue but idk

do you have an issue with current LLL where you can't pull the lever when routing to egypt?

[void sorrel]

but the section that lists the outside enemy spawns is per moon rather than a seperate section

so im not sure where its causing the indoor enemies to spawn outside

[vagrant sundial]

The Daytime Enemies field is normally for Bees and Manticoils and Locusts. But LLL inserts the Inside Enemies into this field.

[vagrant sundial]

No i can visit the moons, its just that enemies spawn outside

[void sorrel]

looks like LLL needs one more update lol

I like i how i dont know anything about coding but i can figure out configs like nothing lol

just goes to show the power of good config setups

[wraith nova]

hey there, since i had been asleep while this whole LLL thing happened, has it been fixed to the point of no more problems, or do i gotta wait more

[void sorrel]

seems just one issue remains

indoor monsters spawning outdoors

[wraith nova]

that sounds kinda fun, unless you talk about infernis which allows bunker spiders outside

[strange trail]

well not fun when all inside enemies can spawn outside regardless of map

[void sorrel]

ye thats what currently happening

[wraith nova]

you prolly didnt play brutal company haha, eitherway, i will wait more then thanks for the info

[void sorrel]

ive played BC. 30 brackens chasing me to the ship was scary

[wraith nova]

hell yeah!

[strange trail]

oh wait

inside enemies spawning outside only happens if you enable the configs for like modification

oh man

[void sorrel]

which you need to do in order to get actual costs in place

they just need to correct the outside daytime section

[iron quiver]

Looks like we won’t see an update for a few days, unless it’s only a joke status

[wraith nova]

i will see what my savefile says

version 1.1.3 is broken right

if i dont update it wont break i think lmao

[void sorrel]

anybody know the default chance for specific enemies on vanilla moons?

1.1.3 is and isnt broken at the same time

[iron quiver]

Wait 1.1.3 is a thing?

[void sorrel]

its an easily avoidable glitch

just gotta deal with no enabling the content modification for each moon

[wraith nova]

then i wait until its fixed

[void sorrel]

or configure the correct enemy spawns in place of the indoor ones

[wraith nova]

could ask in support or help troubleshoot some people have spreadsheets

[void sorrel]

im tempted to make it so the outside of every moon spawns a bunch of masked lol

[wraith nova]

thats kinda what atlas did

[void sorrel]

i know

thats what gave me the idea

[void sorrel]

speaking of atlas, this is what my spawn settings in LLL for atlas is

[wraith nova]

ah, i keep spawns kinda vanilla

[void sorrel]

i usually do that too but i figure. its where the masked live so why not make it seem like only they can exist there

[iron quiver]

[wraith nova]

best part was finding shrimp on asteroid and it was hella dark

[iron quiver]

I have yet to find a shrimp 🦐 💀

[wraith nova]

their weight it verrrrrry low

is*

[iron quiver]

Yeaa

[wraith nova]

1-8 is not alot

[iron quiver]

Jesus it’s only 1-8??

[wraith nova]

second

[iron quiver]

That’s nothing

[wraith nova]

lowest possible

lol

[iron quiver]

💀

No wonder I’ve never seen one

I’ve set SCP 096 to 12 and I haven’t seen a single one either

[strange trail]

its fairly common on titan at least tho

scp 096 that is

[wraith nova]

300 is like verrry high

they dont use 100 as 100%

[iron quiver]

Yeah they’re weight

[void sorrel]

it is rather annoying that it isnt a 0-100 for percentage...

[iron quiver]

I think 300 is 50%? At least for interiors

[void sorrel]

rather than weight

[wraith nova]

300 = facility
1 = mansion

[iron quiver]

Lmaooo

[wraith nova]

and on the right is procent for both

[iron quiver]

Where does the last 20% go

[wraith nova]

i do use some extra interior thats why its not actually accurate but you can see it as 0.21 - 100

[iron quiver]

Or is it.. 80%/80??

I know that makes no sense but still

[iron quiver]

Ohhhhhh

[wraith nova]

yus

but to get original stats do the math of 0.27 - 100

99.73

[iron quiver]

Oh wow I’d love to be able to see a chart like this, it would be so much easier to set weights

[wraith nova]

oh i can give you all if you want there sjust some modded ones in there

just make sure to do - with mansion

[carmine sable]

Is there any way to start modding with Lethal level loader?

[iron quiver]

How’s Atlantica? I really like Infernis and Acidir, but I don’t want too many moons, so I only pick the best ones

[wraith nova]

Experimentation: Facility 99.73% - Mansion 0.27%
Assurance: Facility 99.44% - Mansion 0.56%
Vow: Facility 99.48% - Mansion 0.52%
Offense: Facility 99.71% - Mansion 0.29%
March: Facility 100% - Mansion 0%
Rend: Facility 0.72% - Mansion 99.28%
Dine: Facility 0.91% - Mansion 99.09%
Titan: Facility 88.48% - Mansion 11.52%

Atlantica is easy to walka round on, and when going inside it gives you an evil little floody area where water is inside the interior, so its hard to see things on the ground

but when you go down underwater the water itself just goes away

[spare pecan]

Spiders are already spawning outside in Infernis, the modder did this

Isn't it?

[wraith nova]

yeah its on purpose

same for etern where nutcrackers are outside

[spare pecan]

Okay i thought for a sec that a mod was fucking up with Infernis during all this time phew

[wraith nova]

the ai does fuck up alot

[iron quiver]

Interestinnng, so a bit like Oops all flooded?

[wraith nova]

i can give you a view in moment

[iron quiver]

Ayyy thank you!

[wraith nova]

startup always takes long haha

[south hawk]

In AdvancedCompany you can change the price of moons, but for some reason everything was set to 0 by default. I still can’t understand the reason for this, everything was fine before...

[iron quiver]

Makes me wonder if Outpost 31 is still in loading hell

[wraith nova]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1186884307332108339

[south hawk]

I know

I already wrote to them about this

[wraith nova]

Outside:

Inside:

atlantica costs 130

[iron quiver]

This looks amazing god damn

So it’s the perfect planet for the second quota

[wraith nova]

pretty much

has also nice items

[iron quiver]

I’ll test it and very probably add it

[wraith nova]

so have fun^^

[iron quiver]

Have you tried Starlancer’s new moon?

It’s really interesting imo

[wraith nova]

they have a new one???

:O

[iron quiver]

Yeah! Imo better than Auralis

[wraith nova]

oh wow triskelion damn

[iron quiver]

I’d really like to start creating moons, but with LE getting deprecated and LLL lacking proper documentation, it’s really hard to get started

[wraith nova]

damn

were you gonna make star wars maps like the kamino moon?

[iron quiver]

I thought about doing that, but I have a different project in mind

[iron quiver]

Kamino would be pretty insane tho

[jolly cargo]

How do I make the interior enemies not spawn outside?

[wraith nova]

i mean anything people make is awesome if atleast its done by love

[iron quiver]

Constant stormy weather too

[sage cradle]

looks like LLL breaks enemy lists on custom moons now, which in turn breaks "brutal company minus" mod

downgraded LLL and everything works again

[iron quiver]

Everyone’s having this issue right now, let’s hope it gets patched with 1.1.4!

[sage cradle]

the error

[iron quiver]

Idk if Batby is really gone for 4 days tho

[wraith nova]

imagine dagobah

[iron quiver]

woa

[wraith nova]

swamp planet with foggy

[iron quiver]

I would need to hide Yoda as an Easter egg somewhere

[pearl orchid]

All the fleas there is hilarious

[jolly cargo]

Yeah I’m guessing the mod is loading the daytime and interior list in the same spot and therefore i don’t think you edit the interior either

[iron quiver]

Yeah indeed

[jolly cargo]

So if you remove the enemies there none then no enemies will spawn inside

[iron quiver]

I think I’ll roll back to 1.0.7

It’s either ultra hardcore or peaceful mode

[wraith nova]

for out of context mod ideas binder, how about you make a scavanger model with yodas head

[iron quiver]

Lmao yeah that’d be funny

It would be a great place to start

[wraith nova]

would be funny, and when you die its the lego yoda scream

[iron quiver]

oh my god

Stop giving me these magnificent ideas

[wraith nova]

i just dont have the power of skill to make anything, but my head is a good idea printer

[teal tendon]

The new version of LLL is incompatible with Intro Tweaks, when you have it activated, LLL doesn't load all the lethal bundles. For example, with Ganimedes only load the levels bundle and with egypt only the scene bundle

[iron quiver]

Oh that makes sense

Pain

[pearl orchid]

Saved me some headache, phew!

[teal tendon]

glad to hear that, I've been trying for a while to know what mod made custom moons not work

[pearl orchid]

For sake of clarity, if you disable introtweaks, the moons work as they should?
i.e, moon prices

[teal tendon]

I haven't had any problems with the moon prices, the problem with Intro Tweaks is that you couldn't land on the custom moons

[strange trail]

moon prices are an LLL bug atm im pretty sure

[pearl orchid]

That's what I thought

But noted

[iron quiver]

I’m almost shocked there’s only a handful of bugs after such a massive LLL update

[wraith nova]

haha

[jolly cargo]

Can you just like paste in the daytime enemies to fix the issue?

Because the interior stuff is there

unless the override doesn't allow you to remove enemies

[south hawk]

That's right, I completely deleted the config and installed everything again

At first I thought it was the AC that was breaking, but no

As a result, I had to set each planet its own price in the preset, as a temporary solution xD

[strange trail]

sure but that makes inside enemies spawn outside lol

[vagrant sundial]

Don't know the spawn weight of Daytime Creatures on all the moons

[jolly cargo]

you can look it up

Ok yeah you can add them but you can't remove the indoor enemies

[brave ore]

Does anyone have the 1.0.7 release of this mod ?

I can't find any link to download it

[iron quiver]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/versions/

[brave ore]

And since the 1.1.3 is kinda broken (moons not showing in the terminal and can't go to them) I want to try and use the prefered version for the moons mods

Thanks

[iron quiver]

You’re welcome :))

[hushed sky]

the moons are there just hidden i have tried on my more interiors and it work kind of tedious to remember moon name
also all values are set to 0 for custom moon route price

[jolly cargo]

h

I have the mansion at 0

Do I need to list all 0s?

oh ok so it didn't apply at all

because I have 60 for it

[rain garnet]

hipity hopity, ur mod is now my property
... please my good sir what is it ?

[jolly cargo]

facility

[rain garnet]

ehm

wah ?

i'm asking for the mod that shows dungeon generation weight u got there to be sure

[jolly cargo]

This mod

Like the mod this channel is for

[true void]

💀

[rain garnet]

oh

so its a new feature ? xD

holup im checkin the patchnotes

oh looks like i have miss alot of feature actually since its all hiden in sub patchnotes

would had thought those would be in a config file tho

hold on

no it is actually new, its just that i have heard that LLL did alot of mess with the update so i waited before doing it

tell me if i'm right to be sure i am not goin crazy o-° @jolly cargo

[hushed sky]

got the bunker interior working so that one should be a problem
just issue with LE Expansion
having LE Expansion Core is fine

[rain garnet]

have both

set so that core prevent the normal

(its just that other mod are dependant on it so idk if i can remove it)

[hushed sky]

you can just disable Lethal Expansion only but keep core and it works

i have the moons that requires Lethal Expansion and they still work

[rain garnet]

so no worries about that right

[soft violet]

yeah click the disable lethalexpansion only

[hushed sky]

yes it should still work just disable only the Lethal Expansion

[rain garnet]

so what the purpose of having it then ?

can also uninstall it right

[hushed sky]

i think so

[rain garnet]

its just that thunderstore get mad but yea

[hushed sky]

i would disable first then test before uninstall but it should work

[rain garnet]

to come back about LLL...
i have alot of message to read from today, looks like the update made waves, what is the short version ?

[hushed sky]

i think also because lethal expansion has its own stuff it adds and the modders want to make them compatible

[jolly cargo]

hmm when i type in Atlas abyss it redirects to atlantica

[hushed sky]

LLL added terminal sorting
added auto config
added more settings for devs to customized dungeon settings
made stuff easier to port from other Loaders like LethalExpansion and others
added auto detects synced objects and register and add to vanilla stuff back

this is a way to simulate the chance of interiors spawn

[jolly cargo]

oh wow I got a bajillion errors from trying to visit asteroid 13

[hushed sky]

yeah i need to add a way to separate asteroid 13 and the rarity

[true void]

cant you just put asteroid

[hushed sky]

it should work like that

i need to do a few test with that map

[rain garnet]

oh crap didn't notice i was in #1175883003474485369 ...
thougth i was in #1169056298856362105

my apologies

[iron quiver]

You are forgiven

[ashen arrow]

Does anyone know why textures aren’t applying to Terrains? It looks fine in Unity, but not in Lethal Company. I'm using LethalSDK.

[rain garnet]

The number one priority for me after the 1.1.0 release is to do a major pass on documentation on how to use LethalLevelLoader and to work on Unity Editor tools to streamline, simplify and empower development of Lethal Company modding as much as possible.
U mean this ? x)

(i anwsered the message just so i can go back up there quick)

[true void]

"after the 1.1.0 release"

[rain garnet]

yes yes

its just that i saw this when i wanted to start making stuff and was sad

well can't wait c:

[jolly cargo]

asteroid 13:rarity?

the 13 is part of the name I think

[iron quiver]

Yeaa the update came out yesterday we’ll have to be a bit more patient than that haha

I’d rather appreciate the massive amount of content we just got than already ask for more lol

[jolly cargo]

yeah, first lots of bug fixes

but then I have some little tweaks I'd like

[rain garnet]

i just recently thought on starting modding since i have time here while hospitalised, and with my knowledge of unity i thought i would be not that hard but was wrong. i really need those kind of documentation to start going

[iron quiver]

Yeah that’s very fair. I don’t think it’ll take too long, probably February? Batby cooks fast as hell

[pearl orchid]

So is there any other issues BESIDES modded moons that is broken with LLL?

Was doing some light testing, updated mods that change interiors, was curious if anyone found anything else

[iron quiver]

Well I’ve heard that interior enemies also spawn outside and disabling that just stops them from spawning altogether

[pearl orchid]

I don't use modded moons yet so I don't have to deal with any of those shenanigans

[iron quiver]

I haven’t tested tho

[pearl orchid]

Hmm, interesting
Wonder if that may be if you opt to edit moons using the LLL config

[iron quiver]

yeah that could be it

[full hornet]

Where were you when LLL was kill?

[iron quiver]

What

[errant lotus]

Latest version of LLL and Latest version of LE
Every time I confirm, this red message shows up

Complete Log (On a large Modpack)

[pearl orchid]

So far I can say LLL works fine with more inteiors, meltdown, scoopys (Probably mansion as well since it got updated)
I won't be testing LC_Office - Will wait for that mod to be updated

[pseudo heath]

found people mention this issue here: https://www.reddit.com/r/lethalcompany_mods/comments/1alksuv/mods_broke_game_possibly/

[errant lotus]

Also, It still doesn't show me the LE moons

[placid jolt]

Noticing issues just attempting to open the moons list (specifically on hitting enter), was wondering if anyone else was having this issue?

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LethalLevelLoader.TerminalManager.RefreshExtendedLevelGroups () (at <2fc748f7d12e40a992508e15339e7772>:IL_0001)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches.TerminalLoadNewNode_Prefix (Terminal __instance, TerminalNode& node) (at <2fc748f7d12e40a992508e15339e7772>:IL_0017)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMD<Terminal::LoadNewNode>(Terminal,TerminalNode)
Terminal.OnSubmit () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_00EA)
UnityEngine.Events.InvokableCall.Invoke () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0010)
UnityEngine.Events.UnityEvent`1[T0].Invoke (T0 arg0) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0049)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.SendOnEndEdit () (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_000E)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.ReleaseSelection () (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_001B)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.DeactivateInputField (System.Boolean clearSelection) (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_00B0)
TMPro.TMP_InputField.OnUpdateSelected (UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData) (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_007C)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute (UnityEngine.EventSystems.IUpdateSelectedHandler handler, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData) (at <17de86d66286445fa95af59fa8fa644d>:IL_0000)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute[T] (UnityEngine.GameObject target, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData, UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents+EventFunction`1[T1] functor) (at <17de86d66286445fa95af59fa8fa644d>:IL_0067)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.EventSystem:Update()

[marsh shard]

Ahem, dungen time

[hushed sky]

I am also working on documentation for how to make interior dungeons

[marsh shard]

Automod when I mispell a word:

[wraith nova]

1.0.7 might be stable until update right

[marsh shard]

Speaking of which can you help me later?

[hushed sky]

Got mine working just need everyone else to update to latest version and fix all small bugs

But I would say for now stay on 1.0.7 you would also need to revert MortInteriors to 2.1.0 aswell if you want cross compatibility still working till devs update maps

[wraith nova]

ahh makes alot of sense then!

[hushed sky]

Possibly at work currently and send dm with question I will answer when able

[marsh shard]

Yeah later ofc

[rain garnet]

weeeeeeeeeee

[jolly cargo]

(Current planet time)

[errant lotus]

Yep, I just noticed that

[umbral vapor]

please could someone explain what Require Matches On All Possible DungeonFlows does better? give an example

[jolly cargo]

I still don’t get that one either

Couldn’t get my dungeon rarities to work at all

[zenith flax]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/

Version 1.1.4

• Fixed an issue where inside enemies where being applied outside when using the automatic ExtendedLevel configuration files.

In the process of uploading to the Thunderstore

Ok now I'm actually hands off on this for now

[fallow fern]

yo isnt it like 6am for you?

[waxen fog]

something that has been happening to me too is when opening the game on anything newer than 1.0.7 its just a pure black screen

[zenith flax]

i have a flight soon 😄

[fallow fern]

oh lol

good luck and sleep well

[fallow fern]

I heard this was an issue with Skinwalker

[waxen fog]

dont have skinwalker

[zenith flax]

IntroTweaks may also cause issues

[waxen fog]

do not have that as well, tho i use general improvements which does skip intro

[zenith flax]

yeah that might do it

I didn't predict those kind of mods directly skip the loading of that scene entirely

One of those issues where I can probably handle it better on my hand but also mods ideally shouldn't be avoiding things that are meant to run in the basegame

[waxen fog]

100% get what you mean

im disabling the config options rn and then testing

thats crazy...

thats the issue

[zenith flax]

It's a fairly niche issue

[waxen fog]

trying to see if its just the skip intro or the auto select online or lan option

you can use the skip startup screen but not the auto select launch mode

[marsh shard]

I bought dungen and I love it

[waxen fog]

what are the actual issues everyone is complaing about today with LLL

[strange trail]

batby my beloved

[wild wing]

Only issue I have right now is custom moons being free

[umbral vapor]

here is a mod with 152 mods and everything seems to be working well, if anyone tries it let me know of any issues.

only issue is Office interior wont work on a map called Ether and alwasy defaults to mansion

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[waxen fog]

on latest ver

[wild wing]

yes

[waxen fog]

do yk what version that issue doesnt exist?

[idle ravine]

I think it's only LE moons that have the problem

[wild wing]

I gues it's fine 1.0.7 but I didnt test that one yet

[idle ravine]

I think 1.1.0/1.1.1 didn't but they had much more pressing bugs

[umbral vapor]

also another issue i have is, i have a moon called atlantica, and one called atlas abyss, i cannot select atlass abyss even if i type full thing it always routes to atlantica

[iron quiver]

CHAD

[wild wing]

Fun fact: you can fix the cost issue if advanced company is installed. Just ticking the "price" box fixes it

[iron quiver]

Thank you for the heads up 🤝

[errant lotus]

Ok, some good news, the Latest version of LLL (v1.1.4) now loads the LE custom moons (Through LECore, I need to try the latest version of LE)

[brave ore]

Does anyone know how to fix the planets costing 0 problem ?

[soft violet]

no fix for that at the moment. you'll want to downgrade if you need them to cost something

[arctic matrix]

yes I had to disable Dafis moon pack to fix this. LLL isn't compatible with Dafis moon pack since today's updates

[brave ore]

to what version pls ?

Also my game crash when I try to land on custom moons with LE

[soft violet]

1.0.7

LE does not play nice with LLL at the moment

[brave ore]

Oh that's for LLL

I meant LE

I already downgraded my LLL

[soft violet]

get rid of LE and get LEC

that should fix it

[brave ore]

mods that are said to work with LE work with LEC ?

[soft violet]

yep

[brave ore]

nice I'll try

thx

[wild wing]

you got Advanced Company?

with AC you can just tick the "price" box in the menu when hosting a game and that fixes it for the time being

[brave ore]

Sadly no

Too many features in one mod for me to include it

Would get out of my control and not be compatible with some other mods I have

@soft violet You're my hero LEC is exactly the mod I needed and was looking for, just the library and not all the features that overrides my Brutal

[soft violet]

👍

[arctic matrix]

am I crazy or did the new LLL version get rid of the nice print out of the dungeon weights when loading into a moon?

[zenith flax]

It did! I’ll probably add it back soon

You can use the simulate keyword in the Terminal for the same effect @arctic matrix

I will bring it back in the future for logging reasons though

[arctic matrix]

oh so that's what it was, that's even better thank you

[rain garnet]

oh phew

me too was crying

thats like the log i am looking at the most

[arctic matrix]

haha yea I really want all interiors to be the same weight because my friends and I just install a ton of custom moons and always go to a random moon so a random interior every time would also be nice

still trying to convince LLL to override all interior weights

[marsh shard]

@zenith flax Hey so what all should I download when setting up LLL?

[zenith flax]

not available for that level of support sorry

[zenith flax]

Keep in mind as of 1.1.0 only host settings matter for dungeon selection

config desync won’t affect random dungeonflow selection or the size it uses

[kindred herald]

sort quota/run what's that supposed to do?

[marsh shard]

Oh I'm sorry

[arctic matrix]

that's very nice. at least others now don't have to re-import when I change weights.

btw is it possible to quickly inject dungeons into every moon's dungeon pool maybe using an "all" tag? and also override the weights?

I would like every moon to have every dungeon with the same weight, but right now I'm not finding a way to override any moon's explicit dungeon pool or weights

or at least I don't want to write down every single moon's name into the LLL config file

[zenith flax]

use tags vanilla and custom

[arctic matrix]

oh I'll try, thanks

[arctic matrix]

so that works for injection but the moon's weights still take priority.

still close enough to what I wanted I guess, thanks

for whatever reason, most custom moons set the HauntedMansion weight to 1.. I really wanted to make it less of a rarity

[zenith flax]

1 is very low?

[arctic matrix]

yeah the default is 300

[unreal maple]

I'm having this issue with this mod

I'm thinking is that because I disabled it and now the ship lands

[zenith flax]

I’d need to see a log

[unreal maple]

How can I see it?

[hexed nacelle]

for some reason, planets that require LLL wont appear in terminal and not accessible. I can see LEcore planet but not LevelLoader

[arctic matrix]

what's an example of an LLL moon?

[full harbor]

Egypt

[hexed nacelle]

SCP, and even Outpost updated to LLL 40 minutes ago

[full harbor]

Egypt, Outpost, Ganimedes, Secret Labs, Atlas Abyss, Auralis, Triskelion

[marsh shard]

LethalMatt, have you gotten LLL setup yet?

[arctic matrix]

sounds like you need to google a general guide how to install mods using the thunderstore mod manager

[marsh shard]

Nono I'm trying to MAKE a mod

I have dungen

[old pebble]

you bet your bucket I did

[marsh shard]

I know how to download mods with thunderstore 💀

[marsh shard]

Could you teach me how to get ere all setup?

[old pebble]

yeah, do you have map experience

or Unity experience

[marsh shard]

Duh,

I've made games, Not in HDRP

[hexed nacelle]

I updated LLL only and modded LLL planets disappear from terminal

[marsh shard]

I've used unity.

[old pebble]

cool cool, I'll inv to the content creation thread so we don't clog this chat

[iron quiver]

Damn i'd like to see that if possible @old pebble !

I'd wait for the documentation, but who knows when thats coming

[unreal maple]

I think is Starlancer the issue

[plush summit]

i cannot input moon names with spaces into the simulate command (atlas abyss)

[kindred herald]

you can do exactly that tho, no?

[arctic matrix]

what exactly did you do?

I added HauntedMansion for tags vanilla and custom with weight 300 but simulations still have it on rarity 1

[kindred herald]

Go into LethalLevelLoader.cfg. Go to section 'Vanilla Dungeon: 2. - Haunted Mansion (Level2Flow)'. Set content configuration toggle to true. Set this Dungeon Injection Settings - Dynamic Level Tags List = Vanilla:300, Custom:300.
I also cleared the other injection settings

[iron quiver]

How do you change that? I was about to say that all my modded moons have no possibility of custom interiors, as opposed to vanilla moons

amazing

[kindred herald]

Did you set this Enable Content Configuration = true

[iron quiver]

that would make sense

[arctic matrix]

let me try to boot up the game again just to recheck. if it's still not working then maybe the tags are case sensitive and I'm stupid

[zenith flax]

they shouldn’t be

[arctic matrix]

yea I dunno what's wrong

lemme try adding Vanilla and Custom then

[jolly cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/big-mcthankies-from-mcspankies-mcthankies-thankies-mcspankies-jimmy-neutron-gif-20611629

[arctic matrix]

my simulate experimentation still shows rarity 1, I'll see what it shows if I change simulate to Percentage, and then I'l try copying yours

[jolly cargo]

Require Matches On All Possible DungeonFlows

I still don't get if I should have this enabled or disabled to hand pick interiors

like for instance what if I only wanted like these 3 custom dungeons on this moon?

[idle ravine]

Hmm I should make a tool for LLL as a nice front-end UI for config editing since it seems like it's pretty verbose

[zenith flax]

I’m happy to/let someone else help get it supported in any major config api/ui mods

[jolly cargo]

There is all these, what if I strictly want to use the rarity by moon name? I couldn't get it to work for me

[unborn cairn]

if you do i will give you a big virtual hug thanks

[jolly cargo]

I was only using the manual moon list and had the others blank

[idle ravine]

I was thinking like a completely standalone app for tweaking the CFG file

[kindred herald]

That's working for me although I'm not using any LE moons rn

[zenith flax]

I’m not picky. I’m just running up into harmony limitations at this point

[idle ravine]

Maybe hookgen is something you'll need to look into

[jolly cargo]

screenshot?

[kindred herald]

I think you set it to false if you don't want any of the default dungeons to spawn just because the moon says so. So if you don't want facility on idk vow you need this. I'm not sure though

[zenith flax]

Keep in mind I’m also limited by needing mod managers to parse it too

if I don’t I’ll get a lot of reports about it

[kindred herald]

scroll up a little

[jolly cargo]

You just used the tags and left the others blank?

I'm guessing this is an example to show it works in different ways?
Titan:300,vowLevel:40,220. Assurance: 41, Egypt

[kindred herald]

Oh, yea that screenshot was tags. Sorry. In your case I set everything blank but the moon names. That's what I actually use, the screenshot was a test for setting via tag.

[jolly cargo]

I use Titan300 format

Do I have to specify 0 to not have it be on a moon?

I have it at 60 for assurance and it was 300

[kindred herald]

did u enable the first setting in the sectino of the dungeon?

[jolly cargo]

yeah

[arctic matrix]

omg thank you so much. I set this to False earlier because I understood it as the opposite of what it does.

after setting it back to True I'm able to override the weights when a moon has explicitly configured dungeon weights

seems that with False, the moon's own dungeon weights take priority over LLL config

[kindred herald]

Did you put Titan300 or Titan:300? @jolly cargo

[iron quiver]

I'm a bit confused why every moon appears twice in the config?

[jolly cargo]

Assurance:60

[jolly cargo]

Did you delete it?

[iron quiver]

Well I screwed up something in the configs because I use Moons in the terminal anymore

[iron quiver]

maybe

I don’t really know what I did anymore

[kindred herald]

hmm, can you make a copy of your config, rename to .txt and post it here?

What you're describing works for me

[arctic matrix]

you can't or can? are you using Dafis moon pack mod?

[iron quiver]

Nope I'm using my own modpack

[arctic matrix]

I'm talking about a mod, not a modpack

[iron quiver]

oh well no, I don't think i do

[arctic matrix]

the new LLL version is incompatible with this mod, it breaks the moons command

[iron quiver]

ah yea I don't have that

[arctic matrix]

but if you don't use this then it's another issue

[iron quiver]

it worked just fine before I changed LLL's config

[zenith flax]

That’s a mod pack

[iron quiver]

that's what I thought

I don't know how I created this mess

I'll try deleting and reloading

[jolly cargo]

Is this supposed to work?

[kindred herald]

so you're trying to set facility to 60 on assurance, yes?

[jolly cargo]

yes

[kindred herald]

Should be Assurance:60

[arctic matrix]

it doesn't look like a modpack

[zenith flax]

ok

It’s a modpack

[kindred herald]

I'll try that now since I haven't tried lowering default maps rarity yet

[zenith flax]

👍

[iron quiver]

Fixed it

[jolly cargo]

that didn't work

60, Assurance didn't work

[iron quiver]

why is every default value written differently and why is Egypt there lmao

[jolly cargo]

Assurance: 60 didn't work

could it be that the simulate command itself is broke?

[kindred herald]

examples of accepted inputs

[iron quiver]

oh

makes sense

[kindred herald]

might be. I can't get a lower rarity for default dungeonsflows to work either.

[jolly cargo]

assurance60 didn't work either

I'll try assurance 600

[kindred herald]

yea try that

[jolly cargo]

worst comes to worst I can jsut add a zero or 2 after my rarities, still can have the value as % in game

Nope

Why is there a Extralarge verion?

[zenith flax]

Zeekers

[jolly cargo]

what moons use that?

I never heard of it being a thing in the code

[zenith flax]

Don’t remember

Maybe titan?

[unborn cairn]

probably titan

[kindred herald]

that doesn't work either btw. I just tried it because I thought it's the one with diagonal hallways 😉

[unborn cairn]

if not maybe unused feature

[jolly cargo]

titan still just says Facility

[unborn cairn]

probably unused then

[zenith flax]

That’s because of me

[jolly cargo]

a

Ok so batby can you confirm I can do the config the way I am? Do I have to use all the catagories or can I them them blank?

[zenith flax]

I cannot confirm anything

If I don’t respond to something it’s because I can’t respond to it rn

[arctic matrix]

it's a single LEcore module that contains 24 levels. maybe that's why LLL's new 'moons' list is incompatible with this mod since LLL version 1.1.0

[jolly cargo]

You don't know how the config works?

[kindred herald]

@jolly cargo

[jolly cargo]

Didn't work for me

[zenith flax]

What moons does it add

[jolly cargo]

still came back 300

[jolly cargo]

Do you really just have blank in the other 3?

[arctic matrix]

with only this mod installed:

1. 41 Experimentation (Vanilla)
2. 220 Assurance (Vanilla)
3. 56 Vow (Vanilla)
4. 71 Gordion (Vanilla)
5. 61 March (Vanilla)
6. 85 Rend (Vanilla)
7. 7 Dine (Vanilla)
8. 21 Offense (Vanilla)
9. 8 Titan (Vanilla)
10. Bright Moon Cottage (Custom)
11. Chao Garden (Custom)
12. Kyoto (Custom)
13. Violence District (Custom)
14. E1M1 (Custom)
15. Happy Town (Custom)
16. Luke 78 (Custom)
17. Hyrule Field (Custom)
18. Silent Town (Custom)
19. Town Square (Custom)
20. Clock Town (Custom)
21. Mayhem Temple (Custom)
22. Peach's Castle (Custom)
23. The Moon (Custom)
24. Lobby (Custom)
25. Ganon's Castle (Custom)
26. Kokiri Village (Custom)
27. Egg Carrier (Custom)
28. Circus (Custom)
29. Outset Island (Custom)
30. Windfallfall Island (Custom)
31. Dragon Roost Island (Custom)
32. Gods Tower (Custom)
33. Pizza Tower (Custom)```

[unborn cairn]

jesus christo christmas

is that all from that one mod?

[kindred herald]

If what I posted doesn't work for you try setting this Require Matches On All Possible DungeonFlows back to true

[jolly cargo]

I'll try

[zenith flax]

Nah I’d need to see from like the modpacks list

Some broken ones might not be shown there

[unborn cairn]

it's probably just using the lethal expansion feature where you can include multiple moons

thats what wesley did

[jolly cargo]

That worked thanks

Still don't get the langauge on that setting

[zenith flax]

Wait what does the files inside Dafi’s emporium look like

Like if you download manually

[arctic matrix]

like this

just dafimoons.lem

[unborn cairn]

oh yeah he did do the feature

cus its only one .lem file

[jolly cargo]

intriguing, I guess it adds the facility to the larger one since there is none for it

So ig I don't need to imput 0s to remove

[zenith flax]

What does dafimoons do

[jolly cargo]

Also it removed the :

[arctic matrix]

it adds 24 moons

[zenith flax]

sorry

What does dafimoons.lem do

If anyone knows

[unborn cairn]

sewerflow

i think it might add 24 moons...

[zenith flax]

24 moons in that small of a file? 🤔

[old pebble]

24 trojan horses

don't take my word for anything

[unborn cairn]

well yeah it is possible

[arctic matrix]

it has basically PS2 graphics yea

[idle ravine]

Judging by the list it's a lot of low poly moons

Like n64 maps