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#[WIP] Hadal Laboratories (Underwater Dungeon Mod)
old cove
I'm so excited to see this release
we need some underwater moons to accompany this too, maybe a full diving suit along with it
similar in appearance to the super old diving suits that were made of like, bronze or copper or whatever they were made of
covert scarab
we need some underwater moons to accompany this too, maybe a full diving suit al...
Aquatis, Maritopia, and Atlantica are all aquatic moons
Lategame Upgrades has a diving suit item
warm musk
I think the sentiment was a completely underwater moon where something like the diving suit would either be extremely helpful or required for the occasion
old cove
Aquatis, Maritopia, and Atlantica are all aquatic moons
also, you know the little area at the bottom of maritopia? that could be turned into a diving area to an entrance
old cove
I think the sentiment was a completely underwater moon where something like the ...
exactly
warm musk
I think for a completely submerged moon it's be nice if it was like, starts you in a station and main doesnt need the suit, but like 2 of 3 fire exits for a map or smth like that effectively needs a suit for access
covert scarab
ic
old cove
Lategame Upgrades has a diving suit item
I've heard that lategame upgrades breaks like, every mod so I have been hesitant on adding it to my pack
covert scarab
ehh I'd distrust the opposite
warm musk
The concern I have is how it'll be handled cause I'd prefer it not acting like an additional hidden cost for a moon
old cove
ehh I'd distrust the opposite
I mean, even the other way around, still would be hesitant on adding it to my pack
old cove
The concern I have is how it'll be handled cause I'd prefer it not acting like a...
have a warning in the terminal indicating the amount of water or something
warm musk
Big mod that adds a lotta different facets, not surprised if any issues crop up
old cove
I suppose I could make a test version of my pack and put lategame in it just for testing purposes though
warm musk
When I used LGU I'd only use some pieces of it, like diving suit, wheelbarrow/cart, and night vision
covert scarab
The difference is that lgu is delicately constructed, mods like AC are not
old cove
The difference is that lgu is delicately constructed, mods like AC are not
I never mentioned ac
covert scarab
I know what you are 
old cove
I don't use AC at all
old cove
I know what you are <:lookie_lobes:834875055912517692>
0_0
covert scarab
then what are you complaining about? lgu causes no issues unless you have something like lethal utils player overrides or infinite sprint or similar
I'm going to go see primus this summer, good band
old cove
then what are you complaining about? lgu causes no issues unless you have someth...
oh ok! wasn't quite sure what was incompatible or not
covert scarab
is that part of the tour with pusifer and a perfect circle?
old cove
is that part of the tour with pusifer and a perfect circle?
no, it's the tour with coheed
covert scarab
ah, I'm seeing those 3 but i forgor when
warm musk
Guess I'm prob safe cause I don't got anything enabled that affects the player
old cove
not a big fan of coheed cause the vocalist sounds awful to me, but I'm excited for primus
delicate cedar
this still in wip? 💔
tulip haven
this still in wip? 💔
oof
covert scarab
yeah currently no artist afaik
native urchin
iirc it's less art related and more art-tech related
covert scarab
yeah, I talked with the dev, a lot of it has to do with making the glass be see through but visible on both sides
rustic goblet
Its not over yet
covert scarab
toe ban? In the hadal chanlle???
novel temple
Its not over yet
tolian my goat fr
spring flint
Its not over yet
Will it be comprised of hd assets or assets that fit LC's aesthetic?
ionic mica
@rustic goblet
here's one of the concepts
sorry havent had any time on personal computer, had to go right from work yesterday to gfs 😓
sudden lance
Will it be comprised of hd assets or assets that fit LC's aesthetic?
yea no offense to tolian but they tend to use stuff that doesnt really fit the game along with too strong of post processing
so all that I ask for is to not have that happen 
maiden crown
i think it's over yet
rustic goblet
i think it's over yet
why?
maiden crown
no reports of status at all
ionic mica
👀
obsidian falcon
🍿
rustic goblet
storm nebula
Tolian the savior
desert wind
low key bioshock vibes
old cove
lovin the look of this
stark surge
gg
fathom swan
im so rock hard now holy
random saffron
damn taking over hadal laboratories!?
tolian you have salvaged or taken in so many mods its insane!
warm musk
Tolian's deck of mods grows by the day
runic nacelle
@native urchin
torpid schooner
really reminds me of leviathan a custom zombies map in call of duty black ops
drowsy girder
really reminds me of leviathan a custom zombies map in call of duty black ops
No one remembers the og in WaW😭
warm musk
I don't recall there being an underwater-esc map among the WaW Zombie maps, the maps I remember were like uhh
- Some lil run-down building in the middle of nowhere
- An asylum
- A swamp
- Some big complex that has teleporters that link to different places
warm musk
Ahh that explains the discrepancy
Never played WaW on PC back in the day, only on consoles w
silk venture
yeah cod on PC used to be a wildly different experience than console
warm musk
I heard quite a bit of the BO3 modding stuff, didn't know it extended that far back to WaW
Makes sense that it does, I was just not familiar with it
rustic goblet
tulip haven
Glad to know you are still working on this.
It's looking great!
native urchin
Oh right new patreon post is out i forgot
Zeeekerss wants to add a underwater interior i think
Very window based
rustic goblet
Zeeekerss wants to add a underwater interior i think
time to speed up
stable gate
Zeeekerss wants to add a underwater interior i think
Spoiler tags 
ionic mica
we should just sell the mod to zeekers tolian 🤔
sterile blaze
Zeeekerss wants to add a underwater interior i think
liquidation only :troll
rustic peak
lol I can’t wait for you guys to see liquidation and it’s interior and btw there is no water there.
It def is very unique tho
autumn cave
This actually looks so cool, and so horrifying at the same time.
simple nest
I gotta interrogate you about how you got the hdrp transparency stuff working it's been a constant thorn in my side for multiple things
native urchin
what is liquidation?
zeekerss mentioned months back about how he noticed a big demand for a water moon
and the update after that had a unfinished level file called Liquidation
more recently he's implied interest in a underwater/glass based interior
I actually sent him some shots of this interior incase he was interested in reaching out to yall but he didn't respond
rustic peak
more recently he's implied interest in a underwater/glass based interior
zeekers copying all of our interiors, and weather conditions
jk
ionic mica
lol
ionic mica
zeekerss mentioned months back about how he noticed a big demand for a water moo...
ah i see thanks
simple nest
Yeah I know about that but every time the entire model goes partially transparent instead of just the parts with alpha, and then there's a bunch of weird draw depth issues
rustic goblet
i separated the glass from the entire model
echo ermine
you should have the transparent parts separated ideally
as far as sorting goes... that's never perfect and you just need to split up the parts that need to sort on top of each other
desert wind
this is what I did it for the dome on Arcadia as well
simple nest
guess I'll have to learn to do some proper model editing
echo ermine
I forgot to mention, if you really need to have solid parts connected to transparent ones (don't do this if you can avoid it though), then you can use alpha testing to make the opaque parts sort properly
still have to split up the stuff that needs to sort on top of itself though, unless you want only one layer to show, in which case you can do a depth prepass or depth write
both of those will make it so that other transparent objects may not display behind yours though
surreal meadow
Very quick and simple Angler concept someone could use (would also work for a Rush enemy naturally): upon spawning, it'll create a straight path down one route. The path could be long or short, but at minimum it'll have to pass through 3 rooms. It cannot deviate from the path at all through any means, and will despawn once it reaches the end of its path. Anyone caught within its path (lights will flicker in the respective rooms it'll pass through), they'll die instantly. The enemy would be incredibly rare (though paired with this map, could be more common here) and likely only spawn once per moon (again, could be multiple on this map)
Repeat the behavior for a Frogger/Ambush enemy, but it rebounds a random amount of times
rose sonnet
Hadal blacksite? PRESSURE IN LETHAL COMPANY?!?!
tulip haven
Hadal blacksite? PRESSURE IN LETHAL COMPANY?!?!
small curiosity, Zeal (the creator of Pressure) is keen to try this interior in Lethal Company
fleet dome
lol I can’t wait for you guys to see liquidation and it’s interior and btw there...
There isn't water on liquidation?
fleet dome
It actually very dry
You seen it?
lavish grove
the moon doesn't even exist.
rose sonnet
When a doors one is made eventually, make it EXACTLY like the game (with a few minor twists)
Will there also be a shop where we can buy scrap for research (new item that doesnt take up inventory slots)
fleet dome
Damn you’ve dreamed about lethal company?
rustic peak
Damn you’ve dreamed about lethal company?
I dreamed of liquation and its interior
grand helm
lol I can’t wait for you guys to see liquidation and it’s interior and btw there...
bro's source his dream
that shit is wild
covert token
Damn this mod looks lit af
covert scarab
Zeeekerss wants to add a underwater interior i think
bruh isn't he gonna take a hiatus?
did I miss the hiatus?
simple nest
I think he just has burnout from non-stop LC, he wants to work on his singleplayer game then come back and maybe work on it then
covert scarab
I get that but it doesn’t really seem like he stopped
simple nest
I haven't seen anything from zeekers after v64, unless I've missed something it seems like he's off it for now
native urchin
yeah he cookin dark place
rustic peak
yeah he cookin dark place
is that also a horror game
rustic goblet
hallow atlas
no shot you add the trenches of the (non descript presssure area) to this if so Pretty please make a lucy?
upbeat ledge
voice of the void?
wintry pewter
Damn that looks delicious
Hope this won't be as cumbersome to navigate as Hyperion Stayion and TeraSpace!
wind axle
ionic mica
naming this piece ||"OSHAViolationFan"||
ionic mica
Hope this won't be as cumbersome to navigate as Hyperion Stayion and TeraSpace!
hopefully the glass will make it easier to navigate while still being challenging
also sry forgot to disable @ 😬
ashen mural
naming this piece ||"OSHAViolationFan"||
ionic mica
fr
grand helm
Hope this won't be as cumbersome to navigate as Hyperion Stayion and TeraSpace!
Better pray harder then
elder stag
perfect for WesleysMoons Atlantica
covert scarab
Aquatis, Submersion, and Maritipia
indigo oxide
I'm still excited for this, even after months
rose sonnet
make this mod come with a raveyard interior
worldly garnet
more recently he's implied interest in a underwater/glass based interior
Never said anything about underwater
Just windows and glass
And let's just say a funky aquarium with glass walls does not bring any new gameplay
People keep saying it's an underwater interior
I don't understand
It'd make much more sense to have the windows WITHIN the interior
Have a monster see you from 10 miles away
Watch your friends get mauled through layers of unshatterable glass and be powerless to do anything about it
Etc.
rustic goblet
yum
ionic mica
imagine coil heads seeing you almost anywhere in the map lol
Tolian and I are still working away on the mod
raven ice
imagine this on Gorgonzola...
ionic mica
what
raven ice
modded moon, 130 Gorgonzola. cheese moon.
copper smelt
No way pressure interior
covert scarab
modded moon, 130 Gorgonzola. cheese moon.
Oh god imagine if they made the water a variable like Wesley did for the armory
Cheese instead of water there
raven ice
if only...
rustic goblet
Oh god imagine if they made the water a variable like Wesley did for the armory
that's a good idea
lost dagger
Any update on this mod? I'm still really excited for it
rose sonnet
Any update on this mod? I'm still really excited for it
i hope it comes with a minigame
copper smelt
lost dagger
I don't know what this is referencing or how this is supposed to be funny, but fuck it I hope it'll come with a minigame too
jovial ridge
I don't know what this is referencing or how this is supposed to be funny, but f...
thats the correct mentality!
tulip haven
I don't know what this is referencing or how this is supposed to be funny, but f...
A recent roblox game called Pressure, a Door's like game but in an underwater facility called Hadal Blacksite (not related to this mod) there's a popular monster called Pandemonium that has a Minigame when encountered
Really cool game btw, one of the best room design in Roblox
lost dagger
Makes sense, thanks for the info! Don't play Roblox though unfortunately
hybrid radish
is this still being worked on?
rustic goblet
brrrr
ionic mica
Cheese instead of water there
like fondue?
ionic mica
latest asset
I would say what it is but it'd spoil it 💀
I also finished the interior for the moon base landing pads
just helping tolian decorate the interior
stray heath
This gonna go so crazy
steep nacelle
i thought this was dead loll
steep nacelle
make sure the rooms dont has TOO much polygons i dont want my pc dying
but that looks really cool
i like the wires
ionic mica
its relatively optimized but yea it might not run on a potato
nowadays its mostly about textures and less about poly count, assuming poly count isnt out of control
ionic mica
anyone got sound suggestions for hadal labs? I already found some good ones but curious if anyone knows some secret really good underwater facility sounds
hybrid radish
If it's supposed to be an underwater base you could have an occasional monster growl outside the walls
Idk tbh
glad it's still being worked on though!
jovial ridge
anyone got sound suggestions for hadal labs? I already found some good ones but ...
@weary flame something you're interested in?
weary flame
anyone got sound suggestions for hadal labs? I already found some good ones but ...
I special in auditory effects, we exactly would you be looking for? Dm me
ionic mica
Oh i was thinking more like online resources, I'll definitely keep you in mind though I appreciate it 😄
I can send you what I've compiled so far online if you want
rustic goblet
hybrid radish
IS THIS A MOON???
woeful vigil
If this moon is covered with water then will there be special outside monsters such as 'ogopogo' from 'biodiversity mod'
nimble thunder
If this moon is covered with water then will there be special outside monsters s...
that'll be on biodiversity devs to make sure ogo works with it
ionic mica
would be cool
I wonder if the ogopogo already is designed to work with any body of water
hybrid radish
I wonder if the ogopogo already is designed to work with any body of water
tbh I think so\
jagged tendon
that'll be on biodiversity devs to make sure ogo works with it
Iirc Ogo spawns at the center of a placed water plane? So it really just depends where that center is. I think.
Don't take my word 100% on that.
nimble thunder
Iirc Ogo spawns at the center of a placed water plane? So it really just depends...
I believe that's right but at the same time he doesn't behave well on moons the devs haven't confirmed him to work on. I imagine they'd have to see how he performs on this moon and then let people know if he works here
jagged tendon
Oh my god the Soon(tm) interior has finally had a public release. 
I must be sleeping still.
stable gate
Holy shiiiit!
stable gate
@rustic goblet congrats! I cant wait to check it out when im back! 
Couple of questions:
- Could you do a version with lava instead of water for Volcanic tag?
- Whats version is it? Did you ran the patcher recently so its v68-9?
hybrid radish
<@638302035560759296> congrats! I cant wait to check it out when im back! <a:pik...
lava tag thing would actually be awesome to see lol
rustic goblet
<@638302035560759296> congrats! I cant wait to check it out when im back! <a:pik...
-
i have a lot of stuff i didn't add in the release, i'd be happy to add lava in the future
-
yep, i ran the patcher on version 69
sick swallow
- i have a lot of stuff i didn't add in the release, i'd be happy to add lava in...
I like the interior a lot but I'm getting 50 less fps on it.
rustic goblet
I like the interior a lot but I'm getting 50 less fps on it.
are there any errors in the console?\
sick swallow
no but this is getting spammed [20:14:18.4400751] [Info : Unity Log] FrontCollider
and it looks like when I run I get even less
but the interior looks really good
rustic goblet
no but this is getting spammed [20:14:18.4400751] [Info : Unity Log] FrontColl...
do you use the interior with the moon or not?
sick swallow
do you use the interior with the moon or not?
I tested again and I'm not getting that spammed but I still have 50 fps while I normally have 110 fps
spring flint
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Tolian/Hadal_Laboratories/
Aaand it’s all over my screen 😂
Clean up on aisle My Eyes
sudden lance
Clean up on aisle My Eyes
😭
rustic goblet
no but this is getting spammed [20:14:18.4400751] [Info : Unity Log] FrontColl...
can i get the log?
sick swallow
yeah one sec
stray heath
Personally I'm not having fps issues at all, but I did get myself stuck between tiles
This is banging though you guys cooked hard
More clear where I am
sick swallow
@rustic goblet I tested in a fresh save with no other mods and its fine
I think it was a mod conflict
compact sparrow
<@638302035560759296> I tested in a fresh save with no other mods and its fine
you mean the fps drop?
sick swallow
yeah
rustic goblet
More clear where I am
i will try to fix this in the next update
stray heath
Swag 🙏
rustic goblet
What are the loot tables in this interior like
i'll write it up later😅
compact sparrow
found some small bugs: a guardrail is missing a collider, the main door can't be scanned, and the dropship doesn't have music?
don't know if the last one is intentional
echo ermine
uh oh, I never blocked culling for Hadal it seems like
I'm surprised not to see people mentioning that yet lol
rustic goblet
found some small bugs: a guardrail is missing a collider, the main door can't be...
i'll fix it in the next update
compact sparrow
Do I post more moon related bugs here or in the tolian thread?
compact sparrow
Bet it’s the moon it comes with
ionic mica
are you having issues with the gordion abyss moon?
compact sparrow
Some small bugs
ionic mica
yee here is good then
it's early release so there's bound to be problems
but yea the more people tracking down bugs the better
native urchin
You guys should post in showcase and zeekerss server
warm musk
Looks like an overlapping tile bug
spring flint
tile u can get stuck
Love how one of the rarest ambient noisies played in that recording
spring flint
Wtf
spring flint
Insanity ambient
warm musk
It's like a loud blowing into a mic, except muffled
ionic mica
odd
warm musk
I didn't even know that's a "rare" ambient
I kinda don't pay attention to that kind of thing lmao
ionic mica
btw i think im the only one to run into this issue but make sure to use "gord" as the code to launch the moon, we'll have to figure out what to name it since the names overlap with gordion
the 'lore' idea behind that was to put the ocean moon on the same moon as the company building since it's an ocean moon
compact sparrow
Gordionabyss works too
ionic mica
icic
are mobs pathing ok for you guys? I think the smaller non glass metal sections are having pathing issues
steep nacelle
enemies spawn here and get stuck
that poor driftwood is scared of heights help him
compact sparrow
are mobs pathing ok for you guys? I think the smaller non glass metal sections a...
now that u mention it I did have some mobs get stuck
compact sparrow
that poor driftwood is scared of heights help him
no
thats what he gets
for not being ported to code rebirth
steep nacelle
not his fault for them being too busy with adding 700 gals
nova yacht
He should get ported and remodelled
And then someone can finally work on the cactus variant
steep nacelle
And then someone can finally work on the cactus variant
never!
steep nacelle
i doubt to see cactus anytime in the future
i dont think anyones willing to actually work on his concept, model and whatever at the moment
rapid pawn
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Tolian/Hadal_Laboratories/
Baseeed
nimble thunder
I just played on hadal to see how it plays, and while i get it's in early release there's a few things i think i should bring up
1: the lighting on some tiles aren't aligned, particularly on the 90 degree turns that are in opposite directions
2: i'm not sure if these doors are supposed to be openable? but for the time being they seem to behave like endcap rooms
3: there are some clipping issues with some rooms, which others have mentioned
4: some rooms have areas where you might get stuck, you'd probably want to put a kill trigger in those rooms or something (specifically the bottom area of the stair rooms)
5: every enemy that spawned while i was testing was stuck and couldn't move, which i think is from not having an applicable navmesh to use
issues aside i'm very impressed with what it is right now, and will be keeping up with its progress
very good job on this
spring flint
TURRETS CAN SEE AND SHOOT YOU THROUGH THIS?!
All three fire exits are blocked... Does this interior just not have fire exits?
spring flint
All three fire exits are blocked... Does this interior just not have fire exits?
@fallow wren
Aside from that, this is your most vanilla-like, and probably best interior. Please keep it that way.
ionic mica
who is purple
spring flint
Culling issue
spring flint
5: every enemy that spawned while i was testing was stuck and couldn't move, whi...
They're fine for me
Except for snare fleas
...and masked
nimble thunder
i also got the snare flea being stuck. the things i noticed were spore lizard (saw it stuck in the wall) and thumper (couldn't see it but heard its walking noise very slowly which meant it was stuck)
compact sparrow
doesnt look like they could fit through anyways
compact sparrow
i also got the snare flea being stuck. the things i noticed were spore lizard (s...
i heard the thumper slow walk too
fallow wren
who is purple
unimportant
spring flint
That’s certainly a way to degrade yourself lmao
echo ermine
Culling issue
culling will be turned off once I get the interior to generate so I can test the blacklist
CullFactory can't work with this interior
not as-is anyway, and I don't really want to rework it to handle the fog distance outside tiles rn
@native urchin sorry to ping you for this, but installing Hadal pretty much alone I'm seeing this:
[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.Object.get_name () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:0)
LethalLevelLoader.Tools.ContentRestorer.RestoreAudioAssetReferencesInParent (UnityEngine.GameObject parent) (at ./Tools/ContentRestorer.cs:104)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches.OnSceneLoaded (UnityEngine.SceneManagement.Scene scene, UnityEngine.SceneManagement.LoadSceneMode loadSceneMode) (at ./General/Patches.cs:550)
UnityEngine.SceneManagement.SceneManager.Internal_SceneLoaded (UnityEngine.SceneManagement.Scene scene, UnityEngine.SceneManagement.LoadSceneMode mode) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:0)
I'm assuming it's finding some reverb presets in the assets that are then destroyed by LLL upon being replaced?
not sure if this is something that needs to be fixed on the assets side or if it's an LLL bug
native urchin
@ionic mica bad
you don't need any of this door stuff
FloodWeather floodWeather = UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate<FloodWeather>(UnityEngine.Object.FindObjectOfType<FloodWeather>(true));
you can just do
GameObject floodWeatherObject = new GameObject("LabWater");
FloodWeather floodWeather = floodWeatherObject.AddComponent<FloodWeather>();
native urchin
not sure if this is something that needs to be fixed on the assets side or if it...
no clue why that's happening from glancing at code. it'll be on them though
echo ermine
are the reverb presets that survived the vanilla ones? how is it finding non-vanilla ones if this isn't an LLL bug?
I'm not sure how this would be prevented 
unless mods are not allowed to include any new reverb presets? (i.e. they have to be named the same as the vanilla reverb presets?)
maiden crown
can the moon be made seperate from the interior?
echo ermine
the moon isn't very big, I imagine it can just be disabled
maiden crown
i'd really rather they just be seperate mods entirely
native urchin
I'm not sure how this would be prevented <:thonk:842761533063036938> unless mods...
Bad initial answer on my behalf,
It'll be on them in the sense of figuring out what is and isn't custom content sucks and by nature of other mods not having this issue it will be on them to fix and not me 😛
Been a fat minute since i've messed with this but i'm guessing it's somehow a mix of the interior being loaded as a seperate non lethal bundle for some reason (they will want to change this) and their reverbpresets perhaps being named the same as vanilla ones?
echo ermine
I mean, from what I can tell, it doesn't seem to care about whether the reverb triggers are from mod content or not
doesn't Resources.FindObjectsOfTypeAll() find assets that are indirectly referenced by asset bundles? if so, I would expect any mod that includes any reverb triggers to cause this, but I don't know how often that would happen
it's also possible that the order that they are collected by TryScrapeVanillaContent in matters, since if the reverb triggers' presets are found before it hits a null, it shouldn't throw
native urchin
surely this isn't the first interior to contain reverb presets right
echo ermine
I mean, it doesn't seem like it should be all that common to need those
I would expect moons would be more likely to
and since those are in scenes, they are probably not found by LLL until after the scene loads, which never happens since the hook is in StartOfRound.Awake() from what I can tell
echo ermine
uh oh
well
I can let tolian know to remove the reverb triggers for now if he can find them I guess
maiden crown
you can see the moon above the entrance room
also main entrance doesn't use the vanilla main entrance model and has no distinction from the three identical doors in the same room
the elevator takes way too long and has no lighting
all the foliage looks kinda weird and doesn't really fit lethal company
dead ends shouldn't be doors
the stairs tile has no variety, it's just the weird crystal room
there's a floating light in the stairs tile
saw rooms colliding with eachother, was a dead end from a previous room with a fan and a tube going upwards
the cramped tile archetype feels way too rare. even on titan, it only generated 8 tiles (really small compared to the rest of the interior)
spring flint
Gonna be honest, how did Tolian think Hadal was in a good state to be released when it can't even generate fire exits 😭
Ohmygod
maiden crown
the gordion abyss description is really weird and broken?
the risk level is in the description instead of in the hazard level
maiden crown
not hidden
maiden crown
it might aswell be hidden because i had to try 10 different keywords to route to it
native urchin
Gonna be honest, how did Tolian think Hadal was in a good state to be released w...
So to be clear this is really rude actually
ionic mica
<@249969537066205185> bad
i just make the models 😭
maiden crown
there is no difference between the three decoration doors on gordion abyss and the actual entrance
native urchin
i just make the models 😭
i don't know who's still actively involved mans 😭
ionic mica
Gonna be honest, how did Tolian think Hadal was in a good state to be released w...
early release did you even read?
maiden crown
i don't know who's still actively involved mans 😭
i think tolian is the main once making the interior itself
maiden crown
early release did you even read?
to be fair fire exits are a kinda critical part of the interior
spring flint
early release did you even read?
I don't see anything relating to that on the mod's page, but it's still pretty rough
maiden crown
the interior on gordion abyss is really far to the side instead of under it like every other moon?
echo ermine
it released as v0.0.1, fair to assume there will be issues
native urchin
<@249969537066205185> bad
if that is the case then @rustic goblet
this still has door stuff from lethallib days that you can straight up kill, just make sure the doors are named right in the project like your other interiors
you might need to remove reverbpresets from the interior for now until i can fix something, apologies for that
spring flint
Aside from that, I got cool screenshots of deep-sea creachures
maiden crown
that's a barber/clay surgeon actually hope this helps
spring flint
The leviathans
Oh wait I forgot earth leviathans have leviathan in their name
That was supposed to be a Subnautica reference, but whatever
maiden crown
barbers don't appear in subnautica hope this helps
ionic mica
tolian is doing interior decorating and unity implementation im doing all of the tileset models and texturing
no one else is actively working on hadal afaik at least not directly
nimble thunder
Gonna be honest, how did Tolian think Hadal was in a good state to be released w...
my brother in christ its early release
spring flint
nimble thunder
this interiors been up in the air for almost a year we're just glad to have iut
ionic mica
theres always 1
spring flint
This was funnier in my head
compact sparrow
That tile is fire
stray heath
Oh yeah, this is definitely my favorite interior
I think I remember seeing the untextured demo for these
I LOVE those tiles, haven't seen em yet but it feels like something that came right from the base game
spring flint
Yuh
Agree
Is main's glass supposed to be black, or is AggressiveMaterialFix fucking shit up again?...
I'M CRYIG
Sigh.., why must you do this AGF
spring flint
Proud to be Expendable
tulip haven
does this mod adds a moon?
spring flint
Yes
ionic mica
yee just played it with my crew, pretty fun
tulip haven
what's the name of that moon?
ionic mica
still lots to add and fix, Tolian and I will probably take a break for a bit though once we fix a few things
Gordian Abyss
but the code is Gord, there's a conflict with the name since it's on the same moon as the company building
spring flint
I- huh??
There should rlly be more visual & auditory differences between glass and water in this interior...
Certain entities also can't go thru tiles
tall cave
does appear nav mesh links are broken
spring flint
Dude
Most scrap can't even be transferred out of the facility; it just phases through the elevator upon takeoff
What the genuine fuck, man...
I thought I might've been a little too rude earlier, but no, I have to disable this mod now because it's almost unusable
There's no way to take scrap out of the facility, and fire exits don't even exist in this interior either as an alternate method
fallow wren
let me just say
while i think shroud is being a little too bluntly harsh
i agree
when youre making something modded, especially a specific concept like an interior, you should check if things are broken or dont work, like navmesh, fire exits, etc
and while i understand that you can forget to test something, or not have time to properly test every little thing
for the former: its baffling to me how the fire exits not generating, and especially the fact the elevator doesnt work properly for transfering, is an issue i cannot understand how anyone misses
and for the latter: either get other people to do it, or make a disclaimer its not fully done yet
and no, saying it is a beta does not indicate this, it primarily indicates there is to be expected issues, but generally, not ones as major as the things broken about this interior
spring flint
let me just say
while i think shroud is being a little too bluntly harsh
i agree...
while i think shroud is being a little too bluntly harsh
No, lol
If something is a buggy mess, that's what it is, I'm sorry
native urchin
If something is a buggy mess, that's what it is, I'm sorry
Your not sorry
whatsoever
If your going to be some sort of an "honest asshole" just don't bother posting
native urchin
let me just say
while i think shroud is being a little too bluntly harsh
i agree...
its baffling to me how the fire exits not generating, and especially the fact the elevator doesnt work properly for transfering, is an issue i cannot understand how anyone misses
What mods have you developed?
spring flint
That's not an argument 😭
native urchin
I was asking them
fallow wren
batby
my point is, it is extremely easy to notice those two things, and some how, they were not
i dont need to develop mods to know this
native urchin
My point is funny enough it's not extremely easy to notice that in all cases. And you wouldn't know that because you have not gone through that process
a critic doesn't need to be a good cook to be a critique well
you both are genuinely terrible at critiquing things.
fallow wren
you have to play the interior yourself to know if it works properly or not before releasing it
are you saying just
dont do that
spring flint
Play Hadal Laboratories and tell me that you have fun playing it, and that it fits well into the gameplay of Lethal Company
native urchin
No I'm not, I'm saying your not entitled to be baffled at something you don't have experience in
native urchin
Play Hadal Laboratories and tell me that you have fun playing it, and that it fi...
I don't fucking care oh my god
if you don't like the mod, don't play it.
If you have suggestions or have found issues in the mod and you wish to communicate them, communicate them in a productive and kind manner
fallow wren
well in my case specifically, youre saying i shouldnt because i havent developed any mods
but if i did, i would play it in game myself, and missing the fact fire exits dont generate at all would be kind of silly
thats all im saying anymore
stray heath
native urchin
it's baffling how both of you refuse to even acknowledge your attitudes here
tall cave
This is why we never released any early builds. Tolian is probably painfully aware of issues. Easier to do multiplayer testing with mods on thunderstore (If I had to guess why its there). If you don't like it just don't play and move on. If you find some issues, document and report them. The sense of entitlement is crazy.
native urchin
Don't let a few bad eggs ruin the vibe. Ya'll doing great
fallow wren
look
im sorry
the interior looks fantastic, i really like it overall
im not criticizing the development of it, or trying to entitle myself, i was simply saying i felt like this was not playtested well, and was criticizing the playtesting, not the development
im sorry
native urchin
Ok but like
spring flint
native urchin
semi-respectfully
what value is in letting the world know you think this beta mod was not playtested well
spring flint
Maybe it's because of the mountains of bugs, Idk
Y'know, much like the base game itself
native urchin
I was asking them
fallow wren
just the fire exits not being there and the elevator not properly bringing loot up
when i said its not hard to miss it, thats what i meant
if you play it, you should notice that
native urchin
Your misunderstanding my question
I'm not asking if you think the mod was playtested well
fallow wren
oh
native urchin
I'm asking what value exists in you expressing that opinion in the way that you have
fallow wren
can i not just
say something
spring flint
No, you can't express yer feelin's, not around these parks
fallow wren
shush
native urchin
You absolutely can, Just like you can see someone in public, think the are unattractive and then go tell them that.
If you are expressing your opinion that you think the mod hasn't been playtested well just to kinda think outloud, I would suggest thinking about how people can interpret those words
fallow wren
well my mistake was more so i didnt make it clear i wasnt talking about development
native urchin
No it was not
Your mistake is that you and shroud both provide unconstructive, rude feedback
fallow wren
i wasnt trying to do either, i tend to not really write in a more complex way, which yeah, can change how people view words
and sometimes i dont think about possible ways people can see it
like now
but yeah, im sorry
native urchin
I personally definitely appreciate that kind of response and I'd be surprised if the main team doesn't feel the same way.
It's totally fine to find objective and subjective issues in a mod and want to communicate that. Authors want to hear that kind of thing so they can improve their work and users want to see those improvements (that's why this mod is even public right now).
In order for both parties to get what they want though the communication that happens has to be productive, and the feedback constructive.
Being baffled at something not being tested and fixed or even the opinion that something wasn't tested well at best isn't productive information that they can take and improve the mod from and at worst it's pretty discouraging.
Knowing the fire exits are broken, how exactly they are broken and other pieces of context like what other mods were used and such is super productive as they can consider and work with that info
We all want the same thing here
fallow wren
i suppose part of me speaking was from how much low effort mods ive seen
i frequently check for new modded moons and the most recent ones that really impressed me was demonmaes
i mean resh is pretty neat, i feel that dev can get somewhere
i also really like quasara
but then theres stuff like gextradus
native urchin
Mods don't have to be good. They are free and come with no real expectations.
You'd be suprised how much effort low effort mods take
fallow wren
thats an interesting viewpoint
native urchin
I respect anyone who can get a moon out on the thunderstore
fallow wren
i have never thought of that
native urchin
And it's fine if you think their bad too! Your entitled to use the mods you want! But you don't necessarily have to express those views, especially directly where the author is.
Also while all of what's being discussed here really applies to mods of any quality, this mod is really high quality dispite any current issues
I genuinely did not think this mod was going to be released in any form to be completely honest
Not because of the talent behind the team by any means but purely the technical challenges involved in the very nature of a transparent interior
fallow wren
i didnt know tolian took over the project, thats how behind i was
mental vector
If something is a buggy mess, that's what it is, I'm sorry
bruh the whole point of a beta is to playtest and give constructive feedback/bug report. being rude isn't helping anyone
echo ermine
yeah, I don't think that Tolian was expecting anyone to pick this mod up and immediately play high quota with their friends on it lol
There's a lot of issues that have been described here that are either
- tricky to debug (without knowing the game inside and out or being able to read the base game and dependencies' code easily)
- take a lot of random experimentation to find
- caused by interactions with other mods that have previously assumed certain things about how modded content behaves
Also, transparency like Shroud mentioned is something that is to this day an unsolved thing in real-time rendering, so don't expect to never see glitches with regard to that. They can try to reduce the artifacts around that, but there's a limit to how well that can be done without totally killing performance.
Reporting issues is valuable. Finding these issues and then complaining that the mod is unusable is not useful.
If one of you wants to try making the LC elevator code work without knowing how that code works, feel free to try lol
steep nacelle
im really loving the current state of the interior
for an extremely wip interior im amazed
echo ermine
It's worth noting that the only reason why the Black Mesa elevators didn't exhibit the same issue was because I was there to debug the issue and figure out what was going wrong to cause items and enemies to phase through it
ashen mural
I tried this earlier and it’s so awesome! Been hyped for this since it was first teased months ago. Also, ||I appreciated the Gyo reference|| lol
native urchin
There's a lot of issues that have been described here that are either
- tricky t...
Also just in general the iteration time for testing can be pretty brutal depending on what your testing
echo ermine
yeah, we were kinda lucky with Black Mesa in that I spent like two weeks reworking the barnacle so Zac and Crab were forced to do a lot of testing waiting for me to finish lmao
and even after all that we still had some fairly serious issues at the last minute!
ashen mural
let me just say
while i think shroud is being a little too bluntly harsh
i agree...
It seems you fundamentally misunderstand what a beta is supposed to mean. In most cases, a beta should be near feature complete, and primarily needs testing done. That’s the condition Hadal is in rn
fallow wren
we already cleared up my statements
echo ermine
it's just unfortunate when this kind of thing happens, because it is exactly why some modders stop making mods
I don't want to see Tolian feel that way
he makes some good stuff
ashen mural
Also I didn’t run into a single issue when I played
idk if I was just lucky or what
I actually got a same scrap day too lol, had all air horns 
echo ermine
airhorn day 
steep nacelle
I actually got a same scrap day too lol, had all air horns <:giggle:967972837547...
i also did for my first time trying it
fallow wren
oh wait a second
forget every apology i made
the moon this mod adds copypasted assurances loot table
my day is officially ruined 😡
(please understand im joking)
echo ermine
better than what the loot table was for Black Mesa 2.0.0 lol
fallow wren
..what was it..?
echo ermine
which lasted for months
steep nacelle
my day is officially ruined 😡
forget your day!
i got 4 golden whoopie cushions from this interior 😈
my day is officially rich
echo ermine
most items on the same weights but with "industrial" stuff weighted higher, meaning everything was too got dang heavy and there were tons of two handers
fallow wren
so it was experimentation
echo ermine
well.. kinda I guess?
fallow wren
(please understand im joking)
this is how i could tell btw
we love the 111 spawn weight bottles
echo ermine
Blast of static ambient sound isn’t the nicest
are you talking about the vanilla dank fart sound?
I'm assuming that Tolian would have to make a separate ambience list if he wanted to remove that
ashen mural
are you talking about the vanilla dank fart sound?
No it was literally just a blast of loud static that lasted about a second or so
fallow wren
No it was literally just a blast of loud static that lasted about a second or so
thats a rare vanilla game ambient noise
ashen mural
Really??
ashen mural
I have 400+ hours and I don’t think I’ve ever gotten it wtf
fallow wren
ive heard it like 12 times and i hated every time of it
echo ermine
it's fairly recent afaik
fallow wren
afaik it can only play on exp, vow, offense, and titan
ashen mural
My bf and I thought our headphones/mic’s messed up bc it was that loud
fallow wren
i havent heard it anywhere else
actually i think i did on march once
but only once
ashen mural
Looked up a comp of all the ambient sounds, and yep that was it
Good lord
I’ve probably had it several times and just don’t remember
ashen mural
to catch sea bears ofcourse
pallid dawn
fallow wren
what about the sea rhinocerous
we need the protective undergarments for those fuckers
rose sonnet
Does this have any of the entities from pressure?
fallow wren
Does this have any of the entities from pressure?
its not the hadal blacksite from pressure
rose sonnet
Wait what
fallow wren
"hadal" is a sector designation no specific company in the world owns
rose sonnet
I am are have stupid?
rose sonnet
And are both underwater
ashen mural
Yeah
rose sonnet
Coincidence?
ashen mural
Yep
rose sonnet
ashen mural
Hadal refers to underwater
fallow wren
hadal sectors specifically refer to sectors built around or inside of bodies of water
rose sonnet
Hadal refers to underwater
OhOkSoIAmDumb
ashen mural
fallow wren
it is not a coincidence, but theyre not the same thing
ionic mica
gonna read up tomorrow but prob gonna move all mod discussion to our discord for dev so we can cut out peeps who like to shit on stuff
fallow wren
if i had to say anything else, the water on the moon needs sfx
i assume more darkened lighting will be done later, which i am excited to see
pallid dawn
is there supposed to be water in the starting room?
i be drownin before i can get to the elevator
native urchin
gonna read up tomorrow but prob gonna move all mod discussion to our discord for...
naur dw friend
would be better if those people either learn up or scare off than you guys scare off
if you guys aren't comfortable with communicating here that's not a problem that should be solved by not doing it here
stable gate
…Good morning ya’ll 
rustic goblet
woke up 5 minutes ago and i see it's time to get to bug fixing
stable gate
woke up 5 minutes ago and i see it's time to get to bug fixing
Same, same. Have fun ^^
native urchin
woke up 5 minutes ago and i see it's time to get to bug fixing
ill be up for another 5-ish hours hit me up if you need anything from me
echo ermine
oh yeah Tolian while you're here, if I understand correctly, items like to phase through the elevator
the solution for that is to put the colliders for at the very least the floor/ceiling of the elevator onto a parent object to the PlayerPhysicsRegion
so for Black Mesa's elevator we match vanilla and have this object contain the colliders that items will sit on:
stable gate
so for Black Mesa's elevator we match vanilla and have this object contain the c...
Thats interesting
echo ermine
since ours is square, we're also able to put the walls on that object, but I assume yours is a cylinder (haven't seen it yet), so maybe it's easier for you to just do a box collider for the floor (and maybe the ceiling if you can get on that)
fallow wren
it is a cylinder yeah
stable gate
I fixed elevators in another way
rustic goblet
since ours is square, we're also able to put the walls on that object, but I ass...
did
echo ermine
oh? then that's curious that they would phase through it
rustic goblet
oh? then that's curious that they would phase through it <:thonk:842761533063036...
now
echo ermine
ahh, gotcha lol
fallow wren
now
native urchin
it might be lost in a non @ message so repeating but if you don't mind can you let the main bundle be a lethalbundle and let lll pick it up rather than manually giving lll it
echo ermine
this guy is freakin fast 
native urchin
will let it load up async
fallow wren
also disable the gameobject for the ship landing so it isnt playing music while its landing
idk if thats actually a thing on the abyss, i just thought itd be funny to mention that
we really need that to be a sticker here
nova yacht
> its baffling to me how the fire exits not generating, and especially the fact...
I agree with you, but this one comment just reminds me of Matan asking that girl to name ten books lmao
Weird how the message shown in the reply doesn’t display the one I was replying to 😭
Also I remember LC office having the same issue with their elevator a bit ago
I think that was caused by LC_API tho
Maybe shroud has that installed
fallow wren
I agree with you, but this one comment just reminds me of Matan asking that girl...
qhar
nova yacht
wha
Which part are you confused about
Where the reference is from or the relation to what I replied to
This mod does break all elevators with scrap
I’m 99% sure
native urchin
that wasnt office's problem
fallow wren
its not this lol
nova yacht
I’m just trying to find small ways of helping, it’s the same issue in a different mod, maybe the cause from it in LC API is similar to the cause from it in hadal, idk I just woke up
native urchin
its not
nova yacht
Okieee
nova yacht
that wasnt office's problem
I know, it broke all elevators from every mod was my point, I just couldn’t remember what mod it was properly until now
I just remember my testing had something to do with LC office
I wasn’t in this server around that time so I was testing stuff myself
nova yacht
I like the interior a lot but I'm getting 50 less fps on it.
i get capped at 30 annoyingly
ionic mica
just caught up on reading, appreciate you purple
also batby wise af, comparing mod commenting to walking up to someone and calling them ugly is a good analogy heheh
sick swallow
i get capped at 30 annoyingly
I think it dungeon generation
when it was low fps I went down and there were tile sets that were clipping
like a tube would be going through the area where the elevator was
ionic mica
yee clipping is a known issue
hopefully it's not something i have to fix on the tileset models 😬
sick swallow
but its weird sometimes I get 50 fps other times I get 130
ionic mica
try and gather info on where or what happens when you get lower frames
ionic mica
also maybe check a resource monitor to see what computer component is taking a hit? not sure how helpful that would be but I imagine some things are CPU bottlenecked where others are GPU, not sure if LC ever can throttle most GPUs though 🤔
ionic mica
I wonder if the topside lobby is culled when you're in the facility, the exterior moon and interior top side lobby doesn't have custom colliders
sick swallow
I wonder if the topside lobby is culled when you're in the facility, the exterio...
this was with a modpack of 224 mods
ionic mica
💀
sick swallow
it could also be a enemy but I dont know
ionic mica
sick swallow
💀
the reason I think its dungeon generation was because I went through every mod
and none were causing it
it was weird
hybrid radish
This interior looks fire 🔥 lol
I haven't got to test it yet but it's beautiful from the ss I saw
rustic goblet
[20:14:18.4400751] [Info : Unity Log] FrontCollider
can i get a log?
sick swallow
can i get a log?
yeah give me a sec
sudden lance
gonna read up tomorrow but prob gonna move all mod discussion to our discord for...
without all due respect if you released it in a pretty broken state im not sure why you and batby are so upset about people pointing out bugs
sure they could have gone about it better but at the end of the day there giving feedback because they genuinely like the mod and want to see it in a good state so they are making sure the issues are made aware of. I doubt they would bother if they thought the mod was actually bad
ionic mica
dude can we just move on
everyone already agrees not to be an ass when giving feedback, that's the TLDR
also feels like you haven't read the full conversation
jovial ridge
Why is the dungeon underwater. I dont like underwater? 2/10
sick swallow
Why is the dungeon underwater. I dont like underwater? 2/10
So don’t play it
jovial ridge
So don’t play it
No, I have to play it
sick swallow
Then don’t complain
jovial ridge
Then don’t complain
The devs should obvously cater to me.
hybrid radish
without all due respect if you released it in a pretty broken state im not sure ...
probably upset because one if not two of them that was mentioning them where being very rude regarding it. Scroll up and you'll see what I mean 😭
ionic mica
pretty sure Tolian is aware
jovial ridge
A spicy bug report
ionic mica
heheh naw you're good it
hybrid radish
the bug reporters I mean
ionic mica
I'm working on the Hadal discord, you guys can find it on the R2 web page for hadal if yall want to join there
steep nacelle
nice
ionic mica
hopefully this doesn't come across as advertising, but it'll be more useful for organizing feedback and discussion than this thread
anyone know if it's frowned upon to advertise discords here?
sudden lance
dude can we just move on
whats there really to move on from its not like some big drama happened
was just a discussion on feedback for mods
jovial ridge
anyone know if it's frowned upon to advertise discords here?
#rules message
sudden lance
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1168745971237273651/11761684816...
tldr
sick swallow
I assume that means no discord links lol
You get timed out if you send one
ionic mica
rip
sudden lance
You get timed out if you send one
even if its to the server were currently in? trolley~2
sick swallow
Idk
ionic mica
probably automated
sudden lance
ye
probably the same bot as looking for players
meow
why did it pin 😭
and send it twice
jovial ridge
Lmao
sudden lance
sorry for accidental flood didnt expect that
ionic mica
all g
jovial ridge
Each trigger word it detects spawns a warning lol
jovial ridge
Humiliation ritual
ionic mica
lol i guess that's one way to cheese pins on
sudden lance
anyways back on the topic of the mod it does look very cool
one small piece of feedback I have is that the doors being deadends is kind of confusing as thats not what the brain is used to for interiors
ionic mica
yea I believe the plan is to have the doors openable, I don't think they will be endcaps forever
sudden lance
lol i guess that's one way to cheese pins on
the worst part is I could edit the message to anything I want @jade mesa you might wanna fix that 😅
ionic mica
at least that wasn't my intention, will have to see what Tolian has in mind
sudden lance
alr
spring flint
My only critque towards the current fire exits is that their lights should be red to keep consistency with the vanilla interiors, and that the entering/exiting sound should be changed a bit due to being immersion-breaking from just how different is sound design is compared to the base game's sound design. Aside from that, I still love this interior, and it's very well-made.
spring flint
I see why on my first point now.
I should've explored further before giving that, my bad.
Being able to see earth leviathans through the central window is so cool, please never change that. It feels like I'm observing marine life from within.
Anyways though, another critique I have is that the main entrance's exit door should identifiable from the identical non-exit doors here. Changing the main entrance's exit door light to green, and the rest to red would be good.
hybrid radish
My critique is that people 100 years in the past couldn't experience this epic interior
rustic goblet
Anyways though, another critique I have is that the main entrance's exit door sh...
i'll do that in the next update
spring flint
My critique is that people 100 years in the past couldn't experience this epic i...
Be nice and get yourself a TARDIS for them then~
hybrid radish
Be nice and get yourself a TARDIS for them then~
spring flint
If you enter the middle of the crystal containers tile, you fall into here.
rustic goblet
If you enter the middle of the crystal containers tile, you fall into here.
hmm better to remove the collider or make the collider bigger, hmm the first option sounds more logical🧐
spring flint
Why not make it glass, or is it glass already?
WTF LMAO
They thought they were sneaky...
rustic goblet
Why not make it glass, or is it glass already?
as an option, but i've already come up with a solution
spring flint
Fair.
native urchin
Anyways though, another critique I have is that the main entrance's exit door sh...
the opening valve rod thing could be yellow too
spring flint
The what?
spring flint
Mayb
jade mesa
Pawsy doesn't like you
spring flint
Pawsy can eat shit 😈
nova yacht
Pawsy can eat shit 😈
spring flint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwz6FZrgyRk
spring flint
Certainly among my worst Titan rounds yet...
rapid folio
rose sonnet
Certainly among my worst Titan rounds yet...
A turret? Hadal?
Raaa i cant stop thinking about the home of minigames
spring flint
qhar
rose sonnet
rose sonnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwIlzD39za8 <:agony:1199993438377091123>
This-
spring flint
o
spring flint
No it was literally just a blast of loud static that lasted about a second or so
OH MY GOD I JUST GOT IT RN
made me fucking freeze for a second
not to mention i've been consistently getting an ambience i've never heard before beforehand and afterwards
spring flint
not to mention i've been consistently getting an ambience i've never heard befor...
sounds like an unedited/deeper version of the masked's possession sfx
got it like probably more than 3-4 times
pallid dawn
No it was literally just a blast of loud static that lasted about a second or so
i hate that sound so much lol, ive gotten it too on this interior, it seems more common
whats even worse is one time while testing mods alone, i was on the ship and heard a girl say "hey" and immediately quit the game
turne out thats also a really rare sound that plays
fallow wren
"hey" is not as rare as the "mic blowing noise"
i hear that one like every 2 sessions
one noise ive heard multiple times i dont really see anyone talk about is "Insanity Alarm"
4:19 timestamp https://youtu.be/71P4GcCQul8?si=R8qNn_i6dKg5Y83p
i believe its mineshaft exclusive and the rarest noise you can hear of the mineshaft sounds
rose sonnet
whats even worse is one time while testing mods alone, i was on the ship and hea...
Isnt this a ghost girl noise
Also wait a female saying hey?
fallow wren
Isnt this a ghost girl noise
no it isnt
its a random ambient sound and means nothing
nova yacht
It’s just there to freak you out
nova yacht
https://tenor.com/view/pressure-roblox-pressure-roblox-imaginary-friend-roblox-i...
Someone needa make a ghost girl reskin
Of this
fallow bolt
4:19 timestamp https://youtu.be/71P4GcCQul8?si=R8qNn_i6dKg5Y83p
the one i find scary is the baby crying or the bug-like chirr chirr
i wanna use the chirping thing for a new enemy sound tbh
ivory hemlock
https://tenor.com/view/pressure-roblox-pressure-roblox-imaginary-friend-roblox-i...
omg pressure skin mod would go hard
just make bracken a png of pandemonium
fallow bolt
just make bracken a png of pandemonium
i think thumper should be pandemonium
they both chase on sight and scream when they see you
ivory hemlock
nah wall dweller fits most for bracken
fallow bolt
yeah
agreed
lootbugs are seabunnies but evil
giants could be candlebearers
maybe
Oh good lord how long have you been typing for or is it a bug…
ivory hemlock
ghost girl - imaginary friend
bracken - wall dweller
maneater - sea bunnies
coilhead - candlebearer/abstract art
thumper - eyefestation (both are sharks)
hoarding bug - squiddles
nutcracker - good people (couldn't really think of something)
forest giant - candlebrute??
barber - any node monster
bunker spider - puddle of voidmass different color + spidery..
hygrodere - puddles of voidmass
butler - divine
worm - bottomfeeder
jester - pandemonium
snareflea - parasite
spore lizard -
fallow bolt
oh.
ivory hemlock
got some ideas
fallow bolt
those would work design wise but they dont really make sense in some cases
jester and pande is cool tho
ivory hemlock
Squiddle might work better for barber
pallid dawn
i hear that one like every 2 sessions
huh, that was the only time ive heard it lol, ive never heard the insanity alarm though
maiden crown
ghost girl - imaginary friend
bracken - wall dweller
maneater - sea bunnies
coil...
spore lizard as the pressure game logo
rose sonnet
ghost girl - imaginary friend
bracken - wall dweller
maneater - sea bunnies
coil...
Nutcracker not good people, mimics good people mask (replace the masks model itself)
ivory hemlock
yeah but mask skins dont work since 90% of lc palyers use mirage
rose sonnet
yeah but mask skins dont work since 90% of lc palyers use mirage
True
But theres still the mask item
Also some suits for with a mod like it
Sebastian solace(both fish and human)
EVERY SINGLE expendable suit in the game
ivory hemlock
there is a nutcracker suit
hybrid radish
there is a nutcracker suit
?
hybrid radish
oh
ivory hemlock
uh
oh i think I know what happened
I had a gal from coderebirth enabled and I think she pressed the button to send the elevator backup which made me fall trough
yeah I put her back and it worked
also cullfactory causes a bit of flickering
nimble thunder
also cullfactory causes a bit of flickering
add this interior to the cullfactory blacklist
warm musk
Could've sworn one of CullFactory's recent updates already added this interior to the blacklist
echo ermine
it was supposed to
I wasn't able to test whether it worked 😅
if one of you has logs of loading the interior successfully I can check that I got the name right
I checked it with UnityExplorer, but CullFactory logs would tell me for sure
I would expect CullFactory to cause not flickering, but entire missing tiles in your vision through walls
copper smelt
Since people are talking about pressure here, I’ve already found ||candlebearer, candlebrute, sea bunnies, divine, and that guy in the water who follows you around.|| Are there any other monsters in the update?
I’d prefer not to hear what they are if there are any, just would like to confirm if I’ve found them all or not
spring flint
I’d prefer not to hear what they are if there are any, just would like to confir...
There's an Endless-exclusive entity that uncommonly spawns in it
You may have known them originally as the ||Death Angel||, as they were once admin-exclusive
copper smelt
Oh wait so ||death angel|| actually spawns now?
fallow wren
he has a new name
spring flint
Yeah, and their name now is the ||Harbinger||.
copper smelt
Did they change in any way at all? Or do they work the same
spring flint
Apparently, they were gonna be named Lady Death as some point, but they became separate characters.
copper smelt
And do they have a document
spring flint
Did they change in any way at all? Or do they work the same
They work the same, and their document is the same as well aside from their name change.
fallow wren
Yeah, and their name now is the ||Harbinger||.
guys is that a reference to this guy.....
copper smelt
Is the document like obtainable in the documents menu?
spring flint
guys is that a reference to this guy.....
I knew you would say that
spring flint
Is the document like obtainable in the documents menu?
I don't believe so, no
copper smelt
Damn
spring flint
||Harbinger|| isn't canon
At least I don't think
Might be another ||Glitch|| situation
copper smelt
So they’re still impossible to survive other than rushing?
spring flint
I'm not sure if they home in on you like og A-60, but if they work like Pandemonium themself, then you should be able to avoid them by staying out of their los
fallow wren
its possible to reach a state the devs would consider you "beat" it, but the minigame is still endless
copper smelt
I know they used to always move towards you
fallow wren
"beating" it requires reaching the 9th phase of the minigame
spring flint
its possible to reach a state the devs would consider you "beat" it, but the min...
Kind of like how that one kid beat Tetris lol
fallow wren
which no one has done yet
copper smelt
Guess it’s just something to find for myself though
spring flint
They do have a badge though
So you might have somewhat of an incentive to actually go out and look for them
copper smelt
I’ve seen the ||candlebrute and sea bunnies|| but nobody else in my group have
Am I right in thinking ||candlebrute can’t be frozen by light||
spring flint
Slowed, not frozen
copper smelt
Makes sense
When I found it I couldn’t so I just juked it until I got the keycard
I’ll need to get my group on for endless
And get them to find the ||candlebrute and sea bunnies||
I’m also pretty lucky since last time I was on I died to a trenchbleeder, been wanting to get that document
rose sonnet
Might be another ||Glitch|| situation
vale bay
what
spring flint
Glitch from DOORS looks like Jerma
rose sonnet
WHAT THE FUYCK
Idk man its the only gif of glitch that even somewhat makes sense and it doesnt
spring flint
I can see it
spring flint
lmao
tulip quartz
what are some moon weights that people are experimenting with? 🤔
fleet dome
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Tolian/Hadal_Laboratories/
👀
definitely gotta check it out
light aurora
This is probably already on your radar, but there's a TON of scrap that likes spawning in the floor
Generally in the more open rooms, but occasionally hallways as well
light aurora
I also found there was this glass that I could incidentally get stuck in but could not get out of, and the glass wasn't visible from the outside. It was also blocking a bit more of the dungeon behind it.
maiden crown
that's a room clipping into another
fallow wren
you know whats funny
this can happen in vanilla in mineshaft
sometimes one of those rooms that has a giant hole at the ceiling can clip into main entrance
maiden crown
that's been fixed
rustic goblet
that's a room clipping into another
DunGen…..
warm musk
I know RosiePies encountered the issue of overlapping generated tiles when working on Sector-0/Cozy Office, could ask her regarding it on steps to resolve it
ionic mica
in hadal it seems to happen a lot on the endcap pieces
when buck and I were working on the older version the solution we didn't want to have to use is to use flat endcaps to hopefully fix it
actually now that i think of it even the curved turning pieces can intersect
stray heath
Is it an issue with tile sizes or nah?
I would think if everything was scaled to fit a grid then in theory there should be no problems
echo ermine
it's because the doorways are less deep than the blockers
tile bounds are limited to being exactly on the depth of doorways
I was thinking about how this could be solved and what makes the most sense to me is to have a buffer space that DunGen makes sure is clear around the edge of a tile so that those deep blockers can exist without clipping
@dense hearth do you think this is something that would be appropriate for DunGenPlus to allow? if there isn't another solution I'm not thinking of
it's kinda tangential to anything you've done thus far I think, but could be useful for a lot of people I think
echo ermine
I opened a support request with aegon to see if they can help.
when was that? I would kinda figure this would require code changes or a bit of a hack to get working, so I don't really expect much from them
tall cave
when was that? I would kinda figure this would require code changes or a bit of ...
This morning lol
echo ermine
ah gotcha
well it'll be interesting to see if anything comes of that, but I have a feeling it won't
I don't know if anyone has tried that before though tbf
dense hearth
<@233999394490286080> do you think this is something that would be appropriate f...
I'm confused to whats being asked
Oh you mean that doorways have to be the ends of the tile bounds?
echo ermine
currently, yeah
I was hoping it was fairly easy to just expand the bounds used to test tile intersection by some value on sides that don't have doorways yet
I suppose it might be a bit trickier than I initially thought though, since that's a property of the TileProxy/Tile, you'd probably have to use a transpiler to replace the getter call or something
since I assume the bounds might be used in other places where that expansion could cause issues (though I don't know where)
just to be clear about what I'm talking about:
- Tile bounds have to match exactly the door position currently
- Blockers could potentially extend out instead to create a little cubby in place of the door
- Would be nice to expand the tile bounds in the direction of that door when testing intersections with other tiles to ensure they don't clip and trap people
dense hearth
If I'm reading this correctly, you'd like for the bounds to expand for it's potential popout blockers?
Actually let me draw this on ms paint
echo ermine
yee
echo ermine
I think so, but lemme draw a visual for Hadal's case to be clearer
the concave sections are quite a bit larger than your example which makes it a little clearer I think
but same idea I think, just not totally clear to me if we're talking about the same thing when the tiles are perfectly lined up
dense hearth
You either want two things, either
A) You want the position of the doorway to not be on the edge of a tile
B) you want the bounds to expand when an unused doorway decides to use a blocker that extends out of the tile's bounds
am i correct of what I interpreted?
echo ermine
ah, yeah, I was mainly imagining A, but either would probably work now that I think about it
dense hearth
can you not do something like
where the doorway is still at the edge of the tile bounds, but the "doorway" that's not aligned with the edge will spawn in different props depending on whenever it's a blocker or doorway
echo ermine
that was one thing I was thinking of, but I think it would require cutting up the assets
and probably also extending the hallways
currently the space between the visuals and the tile bounds aren't filled by anything if there is a connection, the tiles will just touch each other on the visual edge
dense hearth
i say that option above since I don't think it's possible to extend the tile bounds based on blockers
echo ermine
to connect them with the doorways extended out, there has to be a connector that extends it
dense hearth
it is possible to add extra variables so the doorway can spawn its blockers and connectors at different positions. but you can do that already by offseting the prefabs
echo ermine
yeah, I'm thinking the easier thing to do would be to change the tile bounds that are used to test for tile collisions
dense hearth
it is possible to add extra variables so the doorway can spawn its blockers and ...
I can at least add this feature and see if it helps you out
echo ermine
I don't think it does solve this
as it is, the tiles assume that they will be completely adjacent
so my idea was that if a doorway is unused and not currently being used for a potential connection, it would have its bounds expanded to accommodate the blocker
were it to instead cater to how DunGen works, it would require a connector:
as I understand it, adjusting blocker or connector positions would still result in this last example instead of the first
echo ermine
so my idea was that if a doorway is unused and not currently being used for a po...
to expand on this, why I see this working is because any doorway that is not already connected or trying to connect to a tile will accommodate the blocker so that if it doesn't create another tile there, it will have room to fit the blocker with no clipping
downside is, that kinda precludes the paths from connecting back into themselves, so I guess that to have the best of both worlds would require a lot more work
dense hearth
basically that, I can probably expand the bounds according to the blockers, but it would also mean that accidental intersecting doorways can't occur
I can work both in together, but that's a whole new algorithm all together
would you like me to instead of bound expansion to see if it's a good idea first?
also did branch-cap tilesets not work? it sounds like the solution to your issue
old parrot
echo ermine
branch caps should also work I think, but then it has to have local branches maxed out no? the branch length helps with making the branches look believable maybe, but it's a shame to take away the control of being able to limit the number of branches instead
dense hearth
Ahh I understand okay
echo ermine
would you like me to instead of bound expansion to see if it's a good idea first...
I guess it depends on what @ionic mica and @rustic goblet want to do, probably mainly Rhen since it would be more work for them to make connectors if we don't find a solution that takes the concave blockers into account
ionic mica
haven't caught up but yea I really don't want to redo any of the modules lol
echo ermine
dunno if it would necessarily be a redo, but more like a new tile that just covers the distance from the edge of a tile to the end of its cap essentially
@dense hearth oh also another reason why branch caps wouldn't be ideal is because it would mean that there would have to be a blocker that is just flat to use when tiles block the cap, could look kinda rough
dense hearth
understandable
echo ermine
@ionic mica for reference, this is basically the two options I'm thinking that you have assets-wise, where the first one would require no assets changes, but some changes to DunGen to get working, and the second would work with no DunGen changes but asset changes
ionic mica
reading now one sec
hmmmm
in your second example would you be able to walk between A and B?
echo ermine
yeah
echo ermine
it would just be a slight extension to the hallway
ionic mica
oh maybe im not understanding
echo ermine
technically B would also have the connector on the opposite side too
top case is when the tiles connect, bottom case is when A has no tile connected
ionic mica
I think I understand, so it basically needs a new tile piece for the situtation where it thinks it can use the dome but doing so would cause the intersection?
making a new tile piece like that wouldn't be too hard
echo ermine
that doesn't sound right no
ionic mica
I might be stupid then lol
echo ermine
