Scoopys Variety Mod (formerly LethalExtension)

[rotund root]

so it seems fine(?)

if i see any issues i'll uh

be sure to let yall know

[nova lake]

interesting

[west gull]

still don't really understand how the interiors are chosen

[rotund root]

from my understanding its a percent change, but im not an expert

[west gull]

so 300 is about 50% you say? Does that mean on experimentation the factory rarity is like 300?

[timber basin]

Each moon has a weighted list of dungeons it can pick from, where the weight correlates to the odds of it being picked relative to all other items in the list

[west gull]

Do we have any idea about the numbers?

because I know that, but I can't really balance the rarity if I don't know the actual values

[sick relic]

U updated ur game right?

B.c it would just hang on loading seed

[rotund root]

Naturally.

[slow hemlock]

once LLL starts being used the numbers involved will be visable in console

[sick relic]

And scp map let me load but

Dont see the custom map

[timber basin]

Right now every vanilla moon except March has 1 primary dungeon weighted 300 with an alt weighted around 2 to 20, different per moon

[west gull]

except march?

[timber basin]

0-300 is the intended range of numbers, though it's possible to just ignore the cap

[timber basin]

March has the 1 guaranteed dungeon specifically for it to generate 3 fire exits

[west gull]

ok so march is always factory then

[timber basin]

Yeah, it's the only moon that can't have the mansion on

[west gull]

60 weight of the dungeon will put it was 60/360 or 1/6 of the time?

[slow hemlock]

i wonder if i should fix that

[timber basin]

Roughly, remember to take into account the other dungeon value too, plus any other custom dungeons added

[west gull]

yeah but the percent chances can be found with their rarity over the rarity pool times 100

wish the wiki had a table

I love tables

[timber basin]

Yeah so it'd be something like 60/374 or some weird value like that

[sick relic]

@nova lake so i got it working when i pull the lever and then it hangs on seed number

And then i quit

And rehost

And somehow it works

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nova lake]

just how i love my issues

inconsistent

[twilit moat]

it always breaks on first try and then all subsequent attempts work, interestingly that was only the case on custom moons, it refused to work entirely on the default ones

(speaking from trying with the scp dungeon but this is the same issue so)

[slow hemlock]

@sick relic post log

[timber basin]

I suspect the order of operation changes means our patches are only being applied after they're needed, weird it's only on modded moons though

[fleet mural]

@west gull Automod thinks your message is spam haha

[west gull]

I thought it was bc you can't say offense tbh

[west gull]

ooo batby's mod is out

I thought it was indev

@slow hemlock I'm guessing the config for setting interior rarities is not out?

[slow hemlock]

that will mostly be handled by the actual dungeon mods

for now

since you can set a rarity for everything you want to add

[west gull]

oh huh, I was under the impression a big part of your mod was easy balancing for the interior weights

[slow hemlock]

It is, but that can't be fully handled by my mod because it inherintly lacks the context of what your trying to do

I will have some broader config options soon

[hidden ridge]

is anyone experiencing some lag when playing in the dungeon

[west gull]

Is there a way for the interiors to be simplified into numbers? Either global IDs or the game counts them and the rarities can be set in a format of

Experimentation:
1.300,2.300,3.100,4.50
Where the whole number dictates its matching level/interior and the number after the decimal is the weight or something like this?

[slow hemlock]

i dont understand

oh

lmao

[west gull]

Because I'm thinking the issue is that the users won't know the names in code yeah?

[slow hemlock]

no in the config youll just be able to do something like "PlanetName (Rarity: 000), PlanetName (Rarity: 000)," etc.

[west gull]

Unlike in mc where dimensions and biomes have very to see names through commands like /locate

[slow hemlock]

the terminal?

[west gull]

Yes but how will you know the names?

Thats why I was saying it ay need to auto simplify to numbers and arrange in it an alphabetical order maybe?

[slow hemlock]

i mean you can just read off the >moons list

if that doesn't resolve it for people i can put it in the config dynamically maybe

[west gull]

wdym?

[slow hemlock]

when your ingame and you do >moons in the terminal

[west gull]

hmm do you mean just moons or is that a different command? I think it just says the moon names and not the interior names

[slow hemlock]

OH

i understand the issue now

you misunderstand

[west gull]

like is it just "factory" and "mansion" in code?

[slow hemlock]

In LLL the dungeon controls how its injected

[west gull]

I'm not understanding

[slow hemlock]

you don't need the interior names because the you can control what levels the interior spawns on from each interior

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191251273480155156/1193709969464373328/image.png?ex=65adb40a&is=659b3f0a&hm=fe98761313c21e5b363fbaea9bd665f6f5970874afd380e9abb1f86cde9b9df8&

eg.

[west gull]

yeah I am not good enough with code to understand that fully. I'm looking for an easy way to completely redo my own custom rarities for vanilla and modded interiors on each moon seperately

like scoopys has a config option for rarity but not per planet and it doesn't let you config the rarity for the factory and mansion which is what I'd like to do

[slow hemlock]

on the LLL version scoopys does have a config option for per planet rarity

to be honest I haven't considered a demand of tweaking vanilla dungeon flows

ill get back to you on that

[west gull]

LLL is your mod right?

[slow hemlock]

Yes

[west gull]

Is this outdated?

This Mod is Likely To Be Incompataible with LethalExpansion, Due To The inherit conflicts involved in changing the same systems.

[slow hemlock]

no

[west gull]

Ok yeah I am really not understanding since i thought you were saying that LLL changes the config abilitys of scoopys and I thought your mod was dependent on the code of scoopys

wait lethalexpansion is different hhhh

[granite flicker]

LE+ Custom Dungeons + Soloplay = Could be fine, very inconsistent sinec v47 dropped TODAY

LE + Custom Dungeons + Multiplayer = More than likely will break everything

LLL isn't really being used too much right now with custom dungeons and moons so we mostly need to wait right now

[nova lake]

people were in the process of porting to LLL (including myself) but then v47 dropped lol

[nova lake]

batbys mod is not dependent on mine, just using mine for testing

but yeah LLL significantly expands what is possible with configs, but it is still up to the mod creator (i.e. me) to implement it in the config of my mod

batby just provides new ways to inject your mod in more complex ways than before

[mighty tiger]

question, is it possible to make specific moons to be 100% guaranteed to be the dungeon?

[nova lake]

it will be soon

well never 100% technically like 99.9%

[mighty tiger]

ah. like hand sanitizer

[nova lake]

indeed

[mighty tiger]

we just have to specify the moons in config right?

[nova lake]

yep

i mean you can technically do it right now

[mighty tiger]

do we go by the names of the moon from within the terminal?

[nova lake]

if you specify the moon you want and turn guarantee to true, but will stop it spawning on other moons

[mighty tiger]

for instance, \"Castle_GroundsLevel,WateridgeLevel\"

[nova lake]

i know for now some people have had issues trying to find the correct moon name

[mighty tiger]

we're trying to do that but when we go into, say wateridge, we've gotten the regular factory

[nova lake]

try without level

[mighty tiger]

is there any place to find the correct moon name?

will try now

[nova lake]

not that im aware of, it's technically the 'internal' name

if moon creators used a consistent name throughout it should be fine to use terminal name

but i expect many didnt

you may be able to find stuff in the moon mods specific thread on here

[mighty tiger]

time to trial and error :)))

alright, it did not work.

[nova lake]

another thing that will be fixed with LLL

should be alot easier to match moon names

[mighty tiger]

what's LLL?

[nova lake]

batbys mod

about to update to v47 then i need to do some stuff probably then ill release

[mighty tiger]

we just went to v48

[fiery matrix]

is lethallib not broken for v47?

[nova lake]

not sure

[fiery matrix]

when testing WTO on it the error I got was a lethallib one so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nova lake]

lethallib doesnt do a whole lot for my mod with LLL involved

i mean it still does my scrap

but LLL handles the dungeon gen stuff now

[fiery matrix]

oh huh I figured LLL depended on lethallib

neat

[nova lake]

so fingers crossed it just works lol

oh it does but it handles dungeon injection very differently

[fiery matrix]

ahh right yeah I guess that does make sense

[nova lake]

which is likely what broke with the new update

at least in my mind as someone who hasnt really looked at it very closely yet

[slow hemlock]

only because 1. it kinda feels weird if i didn't 2. i haven't touched any scrap related stuff yet so its kinda easy to just depend so people can assume anyone using LLL has LL

[mighty tiger]

so what is LLL?

like is it a mod you can install on thunderstore?

[slow hemlock]

#1193461151636398080

[sick relic]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1194065958277480498
someone posted it here

[sick relic]

I assume that gave the fix for scoopy and scp mod?

[nova lake]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/scoopy/Scoopys_Variety_Mod/ new version up, should appear in next 10mins or so

major notes are: fixed compatibility with new versions of lethal company, moved to LLL and added it as dependency, one new room, major performance improvements, more config customisability and fixed some common bugs

if you have a customised config you will need to change things but should be an easy switch

[fleet linden]

oo nice but moons are still in LE so i cant use this yet i dont think ?

maybe if i use LE core not sure

[bronze prairie]

I'd imagine LLL and LE are super incompatible but I don't know shit

[fleet linden]

i think so

[nova lake]

they are

LE moons will still be incompatible, some moons should be switching to LLL soon though

[granite flicker]

hmmm, I'm not currently able to get the dungeon to generate still even after the update. LLL is installed and I don't have SCP dungeon installed either.

I've set the guarantee value to true with vanilla moons but I haven't gotten the dungeon to appear on either Experimentation or Assurance

[slow hemlock]

do you have the bepinex log enabled?

[granite flicker]

it's currently up yeah, no idea what to look for yet though

[slow hemlock]

the LLL log will show you the dungeon selection data

[granite flicker]

interesting, I have LLL installed with the mod manager but it doesn't appear to be logging anything

for LLL I mean, all my other mods appear to log just fine

[prisma copper]

Maybe it has a config option

[granite flicker]

I don't see any cfg options in r2modman at the moment

[prisma copper]

I haven't tried it so idk just an idea

Do you have a mod that reduces logging

Or maybe how your bepinex config is configured to log

[granite flicker]

I did a second ago but I've since turned it off to try and relog it but even then nothing

I'll check Bepinex tho

[granite flicker]

Not entirely sure which log level I'd need to use to check LLL. I've never touched Bepin's config so as far as I know it's vanilla

I can delete it though and relog in a second

[prisma copper]

Yeah I don't think it's supposed to effect mods logs

Unsure

[nova lake]

do you have lethalexpansion installed?

[granite flicker]

nope

[prisma copper]

Also the config you get with bepinex when downloading the mod is different than the config you get after deleting it and regenerating the config

Different logging settings preset

Idk why xd

[prisma copper]

There is a bug in the mod manager if you disable and re enable mods too fast, that the mod gets permanently disabled

If you open the profile folder and go into plugins make sure any mods you're using don't have .old added to the end of the filenames

Alternatively just make a brand new profile to test

And redownload

[nova lake]

very odd, if possible i would delete the config and let it regenerate

the way i set up configs you shouldnt need to however

[granite flicker]

I did do it preemptively to get ready for the update but I can try again, one sec

[nova lake]

damn

[prisma copper]

You are on the latest update right? Didn't roll back?

[nova lake]

yeah i would try catch that log that batby said

[granite flicker]

yup, v47

[prisma copper]

Why'd I hear 48 was out

Haven't checked

[granite flicker]

my game does show v48 though I believe that's a mod correct?

(MC)

[prisma copper]

Oh yeah scoopy said on his modpage updated for 48 xd

[timber basin]

no v48 is the latest version, from a couple hours ago

[prisma copper]

Is it just a hot fix

[nova lake]

yeah should be good for 48

and yes

[granite flicker]

what specific log settings should I use to check LLL's dungeon gen?

[prisma copper]

Idk just set everything to max xd

I thought bepinex logging didn't affect mods but unsure

Could be another mod conflict? Did you try using the mod alone

[granite flicker]

hmmm, I did just get the 0.6.1 hotfix while testing and now I can seem to generate it

definitely no mod conflicts or errors, I guess it just didn't want to generate

I'll try enabling cleanerlogs in a sec to make sure it's not conflicting

huh, error seemed to resolve itself, weird

[worldly lotus]

what exactly is this mod incompatible with? what should i keep my hands from when using this mod? for example scp dungeon...?

[granite flicker]

SCP dungeon worked perfectly fine with it in v45, once they're both updated they should work fine.

as far as I know LethalExpansion is the only major incompatibility since this needs LethalLevelLoader and LLL conflicts with LE's dungeon and moon generation

[worldly lotus]

i thought lethalextension was the name of this mod before.. once i installed scoopys variety mod i got rid of lethalextension

[slow hemlock]

LethalExtension Expansion*

[worldly lotus]

oh right okay

[granite flicker]

yeh sorry about that I confused the words

I'll keep testing it but I think it should be fine now. If my mod setup works then the majority of people should be fine

[maiden sand]

hey, i just did some testing. i dont know if this is known yet, but either lethallevelloader or your variety mod is causing issues with lethalexpansion custom moons, it's making it so you cant see the moons in the moon list.

[prisma copper]

This isn't compatible with lethal expansion

I believe neither is lethallevelloader

[maiden sand]

it was working just fine right before the most recent update

[prisma copper]

Really

Probably breaks a lot even if you don't notice

[prisma copper]

Well it's probably because lethal level loader was just added as a dependency this update

And that's incompatible

[maiden sand]

mmh

[nova lake]

Lethal level loader won't be compatible with LE

[zenith vessel]

That's a bit close for a fire exit.

And I guess mimics don't work very well with the dungeon, considering it has unique fire exit doors?

Nevermind.

[prisma copper]

Dont think they spawn at all?

[zenith vessel]

They don't work with custom interiors period.

[prisma copper]

Yeyee

[zenith vessel]

Still think fire exits should look like fire exits on the inside.

[worldly lotus]

It still has to fit the castle-like theme
A red facility door saying FIRE EXIT doesnt really fit

[granite flicker]

I don't mind mimics not spawning on the map since I'm pretty awful at differentiating them anyways lol

[prisma copper]

A wooden door that says fire exit 😄

[worldly lotus]

right

[prisma copper]

Can't you tell it's a fire exit

[zenith vessel]

It does, just like it does in a mansion. It's not a dungeon that was never visited by a modern civilisation.

[prisma copper]

Because the window is lit up

[zenith vessel]

Why does it have modern scrap then?

Why does it have a fire exit at all then? Who built it?

[prisma copper]

Why is it on a moon?

🤣

[granite flicker]

Why do we use shovels if we have a spaceship?

[worldly lotus]

Whats the sound behind the wall?

[zenith vessel]

Point is, fire exits are consistent in base game.

Main entrance having unique model inside is fine though, that's how mansion is too.

[prisma copper]

Why do we live

[zenith vessel]

Just hit them lol.

[worldly lotus]

I actually like the blue torches
Once you know its supposed to be a fire exit its pretty clear

[timber basin]

I wanted to keep visual consistency with mine, custom fire exits are nice as visual flare

[zenith vessel]

I understand that.

[granite flicker]

I feel like an area that's a bit harder to navigate but offers safe fire exits as opposed to the factory is fair imho

[zenith vessel]

It's just my vision.

[granite flicker]

Since it can be configured to show up randomly

[worldly lotus]

thats fine

[prisma copper]

Could have unique torches beside the fire exits

Oh

You do xd

[worldly lotus]

it does xD

[prisma copper]

XD

Seems fine then to me xd

[zenith vessel]

Could you make fire exits match outside too then?

[prisma copper]

The main entrance doesn't match outside

[worldly lotus]

no. you would have to make exterior custom maps.

[zenith vessel]

Fire exits do though.

[prisma copper]

Wut

[zenith vessel]

They look the same on both sides.

[prisma copper]

I think they're red outside

?

[zenith vessel]

I'm talking base game.

[prisma copper]

Yeah I'm talking the mod

The main entrance doesn't match

[zenith vessel]

Yes, it doesn't match on base game interiors either.

[prisma copper]

Doesn't it

On regular facilities

[zenith vessel]

Fire exits are 1:1 though.

So I'm just wondering if there's a limitation for outside doors.

[timber basin]

fire exits are built in as part of the moon not generated on the fly like dungeon fire exits

[zenith vessel]

Cool.

Thanks for clarifying.

[prisma copper]

Everything outside is from the moon

[zenith vessel]

Weird way to do it on the game's side.

[granite flicker]

The only critique I have is that there's no way to light torches inside/ change the lighting similar to the power box. Maybe a torch to find/ carry and that could improve lighting could help

[prisma copper]

They got one in the store called pro flashlight

[zenith vessel]

Only real critique I have is stretched hand interaction icon.

[prisma copper]

A torch with a short range glow that lasts forever would be cool to find tho

[granite flicker]

True but battery can only last so long and these halls are long and really dark. Ascrap or something like that could go a long way to help

[worldly lotus]

What exactly has been done to improve performance majorly (looking at the patch notes)?

[prisma copper]

FPS has been set to higher value

[slow hemlock]

The torches had some super high shadow distance settings hidden in the hdlightdata, aswell as some duplicate meshes on some props

[worldly lotus]

maybe also the reflection is a lil too much which might impact performance

[slow hemlock]

@zenith vessel LLL changes fire exit spawning so it spawns the right amount in the dungeon based on how many are on the moon

[zenith vessel]

Hm?

What's that in relation to?

[granite flicker]

Custom dungeon fire exit counts

[worldly lotus]

or maybe #suggestion just add client side graphical config for the mod. so everyone can configure how they want if thats possible

[slow hemlock]

na

However many EntranceTeleport components are on the moon decide how many spawn in dungeon

[west gull]

Ooo does this mean the rarities for interiors have a central config??

[worldly lotus]

this mod had a rarity config before as well if thats what you mean

[west gull]

Yeah but thats not very helpful for more than one mod that adds interiors and a seperate mod that controls all is great

[static girder]

its a game issue afaik

[slow hemlock]

Without depending on a solid ingame config editor api it’s just not reasonably viable to consolidate all dungeon settings into a single core mod

I’d love to

[zenith vessel]

LethalConfig is shaping up well.

[west gull]

Thank you

Oh wait I misread you haven’t coded that?

[slow hemlock]

I can’t code that

Theres inherently too many options for a string based config file

[worldly lotus]

@slow hemlock what do you think?

[zenith vessel]

Configure what exactly?

[zenith vessel]

It was toned down in last version, and it's not a reflection really. It's gloss, which doesn't really affect performance.

Either way, I don't see why a specific dungeon needs graphical options. Not to mention some of the stuff not being swappable at runtime.

[worldly lotus]

I just thought because the dungeon is pretty sophisticated in terms of objects, meshes, maps, textures etc
it might not run good enough for everyone. so the option would be cool

[zenith vessel]

Is it though?

[worldly lotus]

ye. me and my friends tested this several times and a few of them really have insanely good pc specs

we also noticed that when you look in the direction where the dungeon continues its much lower fps than when you look in a dead end direction

[zenith vessel]

Whatever affects that, you won't be able to change that without affecting the whole game. It's not like you can lower model quality or texture quality for just this dungeon through a config.

[worldly lotus]

okay i thought that might somehow be possible in some way

[zenith vessel]

Even if that's possible, you'd have stutter on entering/exiting the dungeon due to all the settings changing. Either way it's better to work on optimising the mod itself if it's an actual issue, than adding options like that.

[worldly lotus]

okay ._.

[zenith vessel]

I don't think it's the assets though. The mod is like 10 megs.

[worldly lotus]

"megs"?

[zenith vessel]

megabytes

[slow hemlock]

Nah

The dungeon is very poorly optimised. A majority of custom LC content will be until guides and standards develop

A lot of people will be fairly newish to Unity and HDRP is the finnicky deep end

[nova lake]

this should be improved in the latest update

[zenith vessel]

I see. Either way, it's not something that can be easily rectified with configs without affecting a lot of other stuff.

[coarse plinth]

Ahhh sucks to see modded interiors are not compatible anymore with modded moons, it was such a great combo
Any chance to see this fixed or it is definitely out of reach?

[nova lake]

They never really were, people seemed to constantly have issues, but will be compatible with moons on lethallevelloader

[coarse plinth]

Really..? We've been using Aquatis, Infernis and Orion modded maps, and ScoopyVariety + SCPDungeonGeneration for like 3 days and nothing game breaking happened, only the first time we loaded SCP interiors we had to restart but then nothing

[knotty harness]

My march breaks with the scp map, seed wont load.

[coarse plinth]

Yes, right now since the last Lethal update, but before this update everything was clean

I mean on our side, me and 3 other friends which i gave the duplicate of my own config and files

[coarse plinth]

Regarding LethalLevelLoader, who needs to make the .lethalbundle? The map modders or it can be done from their mod directly like converting the mod into a lethalbundle?

[midnight ember]

Dungeon still generates on custom moons despite the setting saying vanilla

[granite flicker]

I'm also curious about this. If we can simply convert .lem files that come with custom moons into LLL compatible ones I'd love to give it a try

I'd imagine we need to use LethalSDK at some point too, though not sure if we'd need the source files or not

[coarse plinth]

We're also trying to make things work out over the LethalExpansion channel

[runic solar]

is it possible to play with the Extension mod and with mimic mod _

[gentle compass]

I tried to edit the config manually for 'CastleDungeonMoons =' from 'vanilla' to 'list' (bcus I want it to spawn only on offense & march) but, after running game , it keep revert back to 'vanilla' again.

[rustic pendant]

Man the split between lethal expansion / core and the new LLL is stressing me out. Don’t know what to remove and use

[lone lodge]

is it a requirement or can we disable it

[opaque void]

For now I keep using expansion and disabled LLL and scoopys. But expansion is gonna fly out once moons are made with LLL

[crimson pilot]

i think interiors are more important than moons rn

so bye bye LE

[short swallow]

The core issue is you spend most of the day inside then outside

[rustic pendant]

Yeah for sure

I got used to using lethal expansion for modifying scrap spawning and shit, what should I use? Lethal quantities?

[lone lodge]

lethalvariables

lethal expansion has really shitty UI anyway while

configurablecompany

has much better UX and UI

[rustic pendant]

Much better than lethal quantities?

[chrome crater]

yes imo

you can also try LethalUtilities if you need even more control over scrap spawning but its all config no UI

[bronze prairie]

I thought LethalLevelLoader was going to replace the LethalLib dependency?

[zenith vessel]

LL is for interiors and items.

[bronze prairie]

Oh does LLL not have item support?

Makes sense

Oh lol LLL has LL as a dependency anyways

[zenith vessel]

LLL is for moons.

[bronze prairie]

And interiors

[spring loom]

Hey scoopy how did you fix this? Is it related to what layer the dungeon tile is on?

[shell jay]

Hi!! I'm having trouble, the game is softlocked here and i'm afraid the mod has a part of fault. Here is the log!

is the index OOB error normal...?

we've restarted the lobby, and it did it again!

[crimson pilot]

yikes!

looks more like its lethal level loader

and not this mod specifically

[shell jay]

youch! indeed. Weird...

[lapis sierra]

@shell jay do you have the SCP dungeon mod installed?

[shell jay]

yup!

oh wow

[lapis sierra]

that would be the issue then, needs to be updated still

[shell jay]

thanks so much!! we didn't really like it anyway

[crimson pilot]

yiiikkeeess!!!!!!!!!!!

[worldly lotus]

has the occurance of alpha walls in the pillar room been fixed yet?

[nimble ferry]

yep having the same issue and i've isolated it to either this mod or LethalLevelLoader probably just gonna have to iron out some bugs

[shell jay]

working!

[crimson pilot]

if you have the scp interior installed too

disable it

it hasnt been made to work with lethal level loader yet

probably soon tho

[nimble ferry]

oh that would be it then

i did have both installed

[midnight ember]

bracken seems to have a difficulty pathfinding in this dungeon as far as i can tell

and can apparently go through metal bars

[strong gust]

lmao

[languid nexus]

Is it possible to have different rarity on specific moons? Like I want Titan to be a 30% chance, but I want Rend to be a 70% chance as an example

[lapis sierra]

Pretty sure you can do that in the config with the latest version

[strong gust]

In the config, you can set the whitelisted moons with chances like so: rend50, dine150
(Should be noted that 300 is like a 50% chance I think, at least from what it's said originally, unsure if that % can go higher)

[languid nexus]

IT's a drawing from a hat. 300 represents the number of entries onto the hat. The default interior is usually set to 300 in vanilla, with the alternate options being around 20. So 20 chances for the alt, and 300 chances for the primary.

So setting Scoopy to 300 gives it 300 chances too

so roughly 50%

[strong gust]

The analogy actually quite helps with my understanding of how it works now, so intend of any overrides it simply adds to the pool

[sick relic]

Does the new scoop update with new dependency work with SCP dungeon?

[maiden sand]

it works with scp dungeon

[hybrid hare]

I think default interior is always set to 300 in vanilla. I was trying to work out the probabilities yesterday and came up with something for secondary interiors like
experimentation- 1, ass/vow- 3, offense- 4, march- 0, rend- 5, dine- 7, titan- 69

So setting scoopys to 300 has between exactly 50% on march and 300/669 on titan

[strong gust]

So by that logic on something like March, it'd be a ~33.3% chance for Scoopy's if it's at 300, and you proceed to install SCP and set it to 300 too

[hybrid hare]

yep that's my understanding

[slow hemlock]

The mod authors will have to change their level to use the vanilla components and such rather than the LethalExpansion ones

[sick relic]

Not working atm and scp dungeon doesnt load

[maiden sand]

works just fine for me

[sick relic]

R u using the update scoopy?

Using LLL?

[maiden sand]

yes

[sick relic]

Can you enable force scp map

And set to all

And go to exp

[maiden sand]

yes

[sick relic]

B.c im getting this whenever i go to Expermental map when scp is forced to spawn on there

[maiden sand]

idk man

oh

now its not working

i restarted my game

[lapis sierra]

the issue is with SCP's dungeon mod, it hasn't been updated, nothing to do with Scoopys, LLL or LE

[coarse plinth]

Well let's hope map modders do really cares about reworking their maps without additionnal components, I know for sure that I wouldn't bother if I was a map modder, but well, i'm not one anyway 🤷‍♂️

[twilit moat]

LECore should work with LLL now

If you find any issues let me know

[coarse plinth]

@twilit moat Want me to test it out? or did you already push an update of LECore?

[twilit moat]

already out

[coarse plinth]

Trully heaven sent, thank you

[sick relic]

With recent update ti LL

Doesnt show error

Doesnt load scp map

Only show castle in the log

Scp kinda work without LLL and scoopy

[weary belfry]

hi im very confused as im trying to have only one single moon spawn the castle interior and the list option just isnt working in the config

[coarse plinth]

I can confirm, Aquatis (modded map) have Scoopy interiors spawned, amazing!

[lapis sierra]

there might be something wrong with the moon list config because it's Vanilla by default but it still spawns in custom moons for me

so maybe that needs fixing

[slow hemlock]

@lapis sierra what’s the matching results in the log?

[weary belfry]

alright so the paid setting is working however not the list setting

i would like the interior to only spawn on offense

[west gull]

wait batby, what prevents a mansion and factory rarity config like this? Just would fight other mods?

[weary belfry]

but cant seem to get it to work

im having issues with this specifically everytime i set it to list it just reverts back to the vanilla setting

[strong gust]

Question is how does it feel in a multiplayer setting, I'm looking to possibly have Scoopy's for Atlas Abyss or in the future Hadal Labs with Aquatis . < .

Atlas Abyss is slated to eventually be on LLL, so I have that to look forward to as well

[west gull]

how are you typing it exactly?

I assume it goes experimentation,assurance,vow,march etc like that

[weary belfry]

i put in list instead of vanilla

[west gull]

you may be adding spaces?

[coarse plinth]

That's effectively the question, but before all the mess and the v47 version of Lethal, it was working all fine for me and my friends for couple days straight

[slow hemlock]

Nothing as of now, seemed abit out of the dungeons intended control to remove other things rather than add but if theres demand for it I’m open for additions and changes

[weary belfry]

and in the CastleDungeonMoonlist i only have offense

[west gull]

well you can always have those be an lll config

[slow hemlock]

How would you want it presented?

[weary belfry]

this is how im trying currently

tried a variety of other things

the paid listing works like normal

offense stays while list reverts to vanilla

[west gull]

hmm

oh I know why

Example: rend300,dine20,experimentation13

[coarse plinth]

shouldn't you add the chances of spawn in the string?

[west gull]

you need to have the rarity after

[coarse plinth]

that's what i thought but i remained silent for a moment lol

[weary belfry]

trying that rq

[west gull]

so like offense:100 if you want it to be like a about 24-25ish% chance of the castle spawning

[weary belfry]

i want it to only be on offense lol

[coarse plinth]

more like 33% if i can be exact 🤓 lol

[west gull]

23.70-24.88%

Its additive rarities, think like a raffle

[dim jasper]

do modded moons have to use the internal name or the in-game name now? its just resetting to vanilla when i do the list thing too for those

[west gull]

there will be 300 tickets for the factory, somewhere between 2 and 20 for the mansion and 100 for the castle

[coarse plinth]

You're right

[west gull]

the percent spawn rate of a interior will be the rarity over total rarities times 100

[slow hemlock]

It’s a string.Contains() check so short of a typo whatever you give it should work

[weary belfry]

still didnt work

[dim jasper]

yeah im just having the same bug with it resetting to vanilla every time the game launches

[coarse plinth]

maybe try to set the config file as read-only?

[west gull]

May be a bug then

[coarse plinth]

not sure it will work but I had a similar problem of config file resetting on another game

[west gull]

I think the first thing to look at is if list is readable in the above setting

[low summit]

I had that happen to me but it turned out I wasnt editing the scoopyvarietymod config but the old lethal extension one

just incase

[dim jasper]

im on a fresh install so its not that

[weary belfry]

well im pretty sure i am editing the scoopyvarietymod config

[low summit]

im bout to do some testing myself

[weary belfry]

asi i type it in everytime

[coarse plinth]

i'll do the same than yall, using the list and listing moons to see

[dim jasper]

if i force the file as read-only would that possibly cause desync for connecting players though?

[west gull]

@slow hemlock Could you help with this issue? the config doesn't seem to accept "list", is it written incorrectly?

[weary belfry]

i now did the caveman method of
offense300,experimentation0,rend0,march0,vow0,dine0,titan0,assurance0
and it still didnt work

[dim jasper]

i think in the actual config it doesnt have "list" as an acceptable value

oepning it up in txt at least

[coarse plinth]

"CastleDungeonMoons" value was changed when i started the game, it got back to 'vanilla' while i set it as 'list'

[weary belfry]

yup same happens to me

[coarse plinth]

Same as yall

[weary belfry]

yeah that might be the issue

[midnight ember]

i think this whole setting just doesnt work, mine was set on vanilla and the dungeon still spawned on LE moons

[west gull]

yeah ok so list isn't an imput

[coarse plinth]

The third line specifies that 'list' can be used, though

[weary belfry]

yeah

paid does work

[crimson pilot]

doesnt really matter what the third line says

its wrong sadly

[coarse plinth]

yeah i know, just as all the other lines

[west gull]

@nova lake The "list" value for CastleDungeonMoons is not accepted

[crimson pilot]

maybe try titan

since

that seems

out of place

probably wont work tho

[weary belfry]

ill try still

[coarse plinth]

on my side i'll try to make a list directly on the CastleDungeonMoons, but unlikely to work

[slow hemlock]

If the config itself is resetting to a default that probably means it's on Scoopys end but let me take a look

[west gull]

We found the issue

[crimson pilot]

they figured it out

[west gull]

^

[crimson pilot]

“list” just isnt a valid option in the config for this mod

🦖

[weary belfry]

nope that sadly isnt it either

[coarse plinth]

making a list directly inside CasteDungeonMoons didn't work neither

so we gotta wait now

[weary belfry]

seems like it

[slow hemlock]

Yeah this might be a ball for scoopy

[weary belfry]

also titan just reverts back to vanilla too

[slow hemlock]

the way configs work via txt format like this makes it very finnicky on the development side

[weary belfry]

yeah will just have to wait until it gets fixed tried basically everything now

[radiant peak]

So I'm unsure if it's been asked but I'm having an issue where this mod takes modded moon names off the terminal but I can still go there I just can't see the names any ideas why?

[strong gust]

🤨
First I've heard of that issue

[radiant peak]

Yeah I don't know why. When I disable this mod the names come back

[slow hemlock]

do you have LECore

[strong gust]

Sounds like a pretty heavy-handed way to enforce that LethalLib/LLL doesn't play nicely with LE(base)

[radiant peak]

LECore?

Ah I found it no I don't\

[strong gust]

tl;dr it's LE but with the bloat disabled
It also fixes some of the inherit bugs found in LE maps (such as indoor lightning strikes and monsters only focusing the host) and seemingly some of the LE incompatibilities

[radiant peak]

Ok I'll try and see if it'll fix it

[strong gust]

I use LECore and I see all of the modded maps even with Scoopy's enabled

Like so

[radiant peak]

Ok gonna launch and see if it's fixed

That worked thank you both so much!

[strong gust]

No problem, only thing is rn is gotta wait for that hotfix to the moon whitelist in the config cause it's a lil borked rn

Also Atlas Abyss + Scoopy's actually works pretty well visually

[radiant peak]

I'll check it out

[coarse plinth]

You actually convinced me, i'll add it to my friends modpack :)

Ty for the heads up

[timber basin]

looking at the decompiled code, scoopy mighta did a typo here (logical AND instead of boolean AND, though i don't know how c# would handle it)

            }
            else if ((configCastleMoons.Value.ToLowerInvariant() == "list") & (configCastleMoonsList.Value != null))
            {

[nova lake]

Looks like the problem is I forgot to add list in the acceptable values for the config entry

Patching now rq

[nova lake]

okay patch is pushes

should solve list not working

[granite flicker]

Can you explain how to get LECore to work with scoopy's? Getting the same issue ArchNickel ran into with modded moons being invisible but I can travel to them

I have LE + LECore (disables LE=true) + Infernis and the moon doesn't show up in the terminal and doesn't load scoopy's dungeon even with "all" moons set

[rustic pendant]

whats the new update? @nova lake

[nova lake]

just fixes list in config

small blunder on my part

[knotty harness]

How do i select specific moons for the dungeon to be on in config settings?

is it still MoonnameLevel

or has it changed?

[nova lake]

its changed, details are in the config file

[tropic fog]

hey what does LLL do for this mod now that its a dependency?

[slow hemlock]

LLL handles the loading of the dungeon itself, vs. previously being handled by LethalLib

[tropic fog]

gotcha

[rustic pendant]

i have vanilla in the config

and its still spawning on modded moons

[cyan walrus]

When adding only the mods necessary for this mod to work im getting this error and not sure if I should be worried or not.

[slow hemlock]

thats fine

[dire cipher]

bro, this mod works????

because i trying but don't working

[cyan walrus]

yep check your other mods

[strong gust]

Finally got it to work under the new config, did this:
list for CastleDungeonMoons
then I did Atlas Abyss300, for CastleDungeonMoons list

[low summit]

case sensitive?

[strong gust]

Got it to spawn on Atlas Abyss, and none on the vanilla maps just yet, gonna see how far I can

[cyan walrus]

the config file also has a guarantee setting u can turn on to check if its working

[low summit]

I had atlas abyss300 and didn't see 3 days in a row but prolly just unlucky

[strong gust]

Unsure cause the terminal told me that atlas abyss300 worked but it didn't appear despite the guarantee

[coarse plinth]

@strong gust Could you try to land on March, just to test something

I can't seem to land on March, it just hangs on seed generation

[strong gust]

Certainly, I'll make that my next destination

[coarse plinth]

Either with guarantee or no, it gets me hanging on seed gen

[slow hemlock]

can i see log?

[coarse plinth]

This is the error on the log

I can land on Aquatis (Modded moon) though, but i did not get Scoopy interior yet again

I'm just waiting on Violet to confirm that they can land there, and if they can i'll refresh the config file once again and retry

[strong gust]

I'm hanging too, hmm

[cyan walrus]

u need another mod thats called lethal level loader

[coarse plinth]

Ah.

[coarse plinth]

Already got it

[coarse plinth]

Violet is also hanging on March, @slow hemlock

As we have different configs

i'll try vanilla setting on config and see if I can land on March

@slow hemlock I can land on March with "vanilla" config set

[cyan walrus]

yeah its working for me with vanilla settings on march

[coarse plinth]

Can you check if you get the Scoopy interiors Danny?

[dire cipher]

bro, not appears on monitor

[cyan walrus]

what settings u changed?

[cyan walrus]

this is a dungeon not a moon

[dire cipher]

how i spawn in?

[cyan walrus]

when u open a door u have a chance to see it

[coarse plinth]

@slow hemlock Updating you, with Vanilla setting set, I can land on march and i get the scoopy interior
When i set the "list" setting, March cannot be landed at all, either if it is set as a valid moon for Scoopy interior or not

[cyan walrus]

if u want it to be guarantee, then look at the config file and change this setting to true

[cyan walrus]

@dire cipher

[dire cipher]

ok i try

[coarse plinth]

The user Violet also cannot land on March while they do not have March on their "list", so even when using another config list it blocks it

[slow hemlock]

heard chef, march fix is done just waiting on some other stuff

[coarse plinth]

Thank you very much for your dedication, very appreciated

[steep egret]

do you know why when you set manually a moon for scoopy to spawn, when you start the game it revert to "vanilla" automatically, therefore making scp never spawn sisnce there is a conflict in spawn chance with LLL

[coarse plinth]

When did you download Scoopy mod interior? This seems like a previous version issue

[steep egret]

new version with new cfg

[dire cipher]

300 is value aways appears at open the door right?

[coarse plinth]

Weird enough

[cyan walrus]

no its a 50% chance

[steep egret]

around 50% on a map with one layout possible

[cyan walrus]

the flag i showed u is the guarantee

[dire cipher]

inclued items custom right?

[steep egret]

its around 33% for a map like dine for exemple (manor, factory, scoopy)

[cyan walrus]

the custom items have its own chances u can configure

[steep egret]

do you know why when you set manually a moon for scoopy to spawn, when you start the game it revert to "vanilla" automatically, therefore making scp never spawn sisnce there is a conflict in spawn chance with LLL

[cyan walrus]

u made sure u saved the file before u launched the game?

[cyan walrus]

also havent tested with scp yet

[steep egret]

i did it 3 times bruv

[coarse plinth]

I don't know why but your issue was something happening on the previous version of Scoopy, are you sure you got the version 0.6.2? One uploaded 2 hours ago

If you got the latest one, well sadly I think you'll have to try your luck waiting for the next update that shouldn't take very long to come i think

[steep egret]

yea i deleted the cfg and reinstalled the mod but idk

[nova lake]

send a screenshot of your config values before you open the game

[steep egret]

its literraly just ExperimentationLevel but i could send one if needed, was working earlier tho

[nova lake]

config values have changed, see new description above config

[steep egret]

i forgot about the "list" update gonna try that, btw since you are here, any way to find internal names of modded moons if they are not provided?

[slow hemlock]

the names in the terminal should work fine

the way the actual check works is it's

if (currentLevel.PlanetName.Contains(nameFromTheConfig) so it's not a direct comparison

[keen ridge]

Sorry if asked before but how do I know if modded moons will break with this mod, su h as infinite falling

[slow hemlock]

make sure your using LECore

[steep egret]

aight im dumb its working now, any idea why i can't get scp lab to spawn on any moons whatever the setting i use? like even with fondation guaranted on true and specified moon or all its not spwaning like ever

[keen ridge]

Ok thanks

[slow hemlock]

It's likely that LLL's dungeon injection system doesn't include dungeons that aren't from vanilla or LLL

[coarse plinth]

A space in the moon name isn't a problem right?

[steep egret]

i swear that 2 houres ago it was spawning, with LLL installed and LECore

[keen ridge]

These naming conventions get muddled quickly lol

[slow hemlock]

shouldn't be, let me know if iti s

[coarse plinth]

Should the end of the list end with an "," or it isn't necessary neither

[slow hemlock]

Not sure about that one, more of a scoopy question

[coarse plinth]

on the example in the config there isn't a finishing "," so i guess it isnt necessary or mandatory

[steep egret]

i think i saw badham from scp say that he is not sure if that matter the ,

[coarse plinth]

Alright, thanks then, by the way at the moment SCPFoundationDungeon isn't compatible with all this stuff (LECore, LLL, etc.) just gotta wait for Badham to update

Not sure if you were talking about this or another SCP mod earlier

[steep egret]

yeeea i know but i swear like 2 houres ago it sapwned multiple times

[keen ridge]

So maps that use LLL are compatible with this mod?

[timber basin]

there's some backend changes happening to LLL that won't affect scoopys but are for patching up compat with scp which hasn't been committed yet

[coarse plinth]

It's possible though, I managed to play with Modded interiors and modded moons together working well for days before Lethal v47 and it apparently surprised modders here

[timber basin]

those might break current SCP with LLL (not that it should really work to begin with)

[coarse plinth]

oh

[keen ridge]

Ah ok, its because on some custom maps it is random if I infinite fall at a entrance

That explains it

[steep egret]

are you planning to update scp ?

[timber basin]

working on it with batby

[steep egret]

it was happening before LEcore made an update, now its good everywhere

[keen ridge]

When was this update to lecore

[coarse plinth]

You both are amazing, thanks you very much

[keen ridge]

This problem was a few days ago

[coarse plinth]

LethalExpansionCore should be used instead of LethalExpansion now

[steep egret]

also i have a working version with both modded interiors working on modded moons if u want but its using V.45

[coarse plinth]

You can load LethalExpansionCore with LethalExpansion loaded without issue, LECore will load first

It should solve your issues

There was couple of Lethal Company update and it broke mods

[keen ridge]

So completely uninstall lethalexpansion?

[coarse plinth]

No you can keep it

Download the mod LethalExpansionCore, and install it

[steep egret]

its not that you "can" , its a dependency for LEC

[coarse plinth]

Didn't know it was dependent of it

[steep egret]

isnt it ?

[nova lake]

wont matter either way

[keen ridge]

Cheers, I will probably wait a few days. It seems the mods are being updated fast enough to all be compatible with each other

[coarse plinth]

I don't know i don't wanna say shit, so just keep both LE and LEC in anyway

[coarse plinth]

Yes that's the best thing to do

[steep egret]

you are right its not a dependency anymore so idk the best moove

[coarse plinth]

Thanks very much Scoopy

[steep egret]

nvm it is if you want modded moon so pretty much mandatory

[coarse plinth]

Joakim told me to add it on top of LE anyway

[keen ridge]

Thanks for this mod, love new dungeon environments

[coarse plinth]

So i'm following what the modder tells, hah

I feel like it's gonna be a mess when Zeekerss will decide to add new types of interiors, all the mods will probably break down again 😬

If he ever decides to tho

[slow hemlock]

nope

[coarse plinth]

Okay haha

[slow hemlock]

LLL will handle that fine 😄

[keen ridge]

Are there any mods I should uninstall that I had previously or am I good to just install LECore and everything auto update

[coarse plinth]

:)

[knotty harness]

whats in the new scoopys update?

[nova lake]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/scoopy/Scoopys_Variety_Mod/changelog/

[nova lake]

assuming zeekerss doesnt change a bunch of stuff lol

[slow hemlock]

stop

[nova lake]

watch him switch off dungen

to wfc

[dire cipher]

how i find the config of the mod, i can't remember

[maiden raptor]

Hi, lil help please.
when I make config like this
CastleDungeonMoons = list
CastleDungeonMoonsList = experimentation100
CastleDungeonGuaranteed = true
Castle dungeon is not guaranteed, I don't know if it even will appear
But when I make
CastleDungeonMoons = vanilla
CastleDungeonMoonsList =
CastleDungeonGuaranteed = true
It appears normally every time. So what am I doing wrong?

[dire cipher]

where i can find this

[maiden raptor]

r2modman -> config editor -> BepInEx\config\ScoopysVarietyMod.cfg

[hollow isle]

Since you accept suggestions
Make an execution room with a little gilloutine or noose in the middle of the room

[dire cipher]

the config don t appears on folder, i launch the game

[steep egret]

if you are using a mod launcher, just click out of config then reclic config, it has to "load" again

[nova lake]

@maiden raptor castledungeonlist rarities override other rarities, including guaranteed values

If you'd like to guarantee on a specific moon use experimentation9999 or similar

[nova lake]

Already on my list lol

[hollow isle]

Knew it lol
Are you planning on making any other dungeons?

More of a question

[steep egret]

didnt know u can go up to 9999

[maiden raptor]

got it. thnx

[steep egret]

so the "MoonnameLevel" format isn't needed anywhere now

[nova lake]

Yep don't need that anymore

[nova lake]

I believe i capped it at 99999

If you happen to need the dungeon 99.999% of the time instead of 99.99

[steep egret]

never too sure

[dire cipher]

somebody send the config archiver config of this mod

[steep egret]

just to be clear, that mean that 3333 is 33.33 % of spawn ? lets say on top of that u use 33% for scp and 33% for vanilla interior = 100 right? around this value

[maiden raptor]

So I still have 0.001 chance of not getting castle dungeon? Unacceptable!

[hybrid hare]

Setting it at 99999 only gives you castle 99.70% of the time at best 😢 Someone make a mod that lets you go up to 2.147 billion

[nova lake]

The value is like number of entries. Vanilla moons typically have their primary moon at 300, and secondary at 2-20. So if you set it to 300, you have approx a 300/620 chance of it spawning

But if you set to a very high number like 99999 you have a 99999/100319ish chance, which is approx 100%

So it's never guaranteed but highly likely

[slow hemlock]

pushed it back to next update so scp can update sooner than later but LLL is going to have a config option to scale down vanilla dungeons if a custom dungeon has chance of spawning

which i think people will like

[knotty harness]

for some reason when on march it guarantees the dungeon despite having it set to march0

[slow hemlock]

so if castleflow can spawn on the currentlevel and you have the config float set to 0.5f every vanilla flow that can spawn will have their rarity halved

[graceful whale]

So this is still showing up on modded moons despite being set to vanilla, and the config appears to be resetting itself back to vanilla

Yeah and seems to be showing up every time for some reason o.o

[slow hemlock]

can I see the log?

[graceful whale]

Layout showed up on both EGypt and Ducky

[slow hemlock]

Oh for LECore moons I have no clue how they are being handled

those configs probably wont be applied to them

[graceful whale]

Which is basically all modded moons atm

J/s lol

[nova lake]

just uploaded a new version using newest lethalleveloader and lethallib

hopefully fixes issues with march

no other changes

also if anyone is having config issues pls send a screenshot/copy paste of your config settings

[steep egret]

It was applying on v45 tho, would bé cool if you guys could find a way to make it work and auto find internal Moon level name also, would be sick

[graceful whale]

Mhm, cuz I know it was supposedly briefly fixed

[slow hemlock]

the issue is i don't know what custom moons are in the context of what LE puts in

on my side they are all vanilla moons

[graceful whale]

So would changing the setting to list theoretically fix it?

Instead of vanilla?

Cuz rn the setting is changing itself back

[slow hemlock]

config resetting itself is a scoopy thing

next update i can maybe slide in a little thing to try and treat le moons less like vanilla

[graceful whale]

Scoopyyyy Q_Q

[nova lake]

Pls send a pic of your config settings, it resetting is a sign the settings are invalid typically

[graceful whale]

Okay, I'll try deleting and regenning it first

This is what I have atm

[nova lake]

that config works fine for me

when i change vanilla to list ofc

your definitely on 0.6.2 of my mod?

[graceful whale]

Yeah I'm thinking the issue is that vanilla isn't properly working on only vanilla moons rn

[nova lake]

that wont cause your config to reset

[graceful whale]

Fair

That might have reset before the update rn

[nova lake]

seperate issue, related to lecore/lethallevelloader

[Warning: BepInEx] Plugin [MoreMoneyStart 2.1.0] targets a wrong version of BepInEx (5.4.22.0) and might not work until you update
[Warning: BepInEx] Plugin [AdditionalSuits 1.1.3] targets a wrong version of BepInEx (5.4.22.0) and might not work until you update
[Warning: BepInEx] Plugin [ColourfulFlashlights 2.2.0] targets a wrong version of BepInEx (5.4.22.0) and might not work until you update
[Warning: BepInEx] Plugin [LetMeLookDown 1.0.1] targets a wrong version of BepInEx (5.4.22.0) and might not work until you update
[Warning: BepInEx] Plugin [Unlimited Sell 1.0.0] targets a wrong version of BepInEx (5.4.22.0) and might not work until you update
[Warning: BepInEx] Plugin [MoreEmotes-Sligili 1.2.2] targets a wrong version of BepInEx (5.4.22.0) and might not work until you update
[Warning: BepInEx] Plugin [KindTeleporters 1.0.2] targets a wrong version of BepInEx (5.4.22.0) and might not work until you update
[Warning: BepInEx] Plugin [Route Random 1.2.1] targets a wrong version of BepInEx (5.4.22.0) and might not work until you update
[Warning: BepInEx] Plugin [Backrooms 0.1.3] targets a wrong version of BepInEx (5.4.22.0) and might not work until you update
[Warning: BepInEx] Plugin [Scoopy's Variety Mod 0.6.2] targets a wrong version of BepInEx (5.4.22.0) and might not work until you update

this from your log is interesting however

considering there is no bepinex 5.4.22.0 im aware of, and my mod definitely targets 5.4.21.0

[graceful whale]

Yeah, that happens a lot for me and idk why

But doesn't seem to cause any issues

[nova lake]

yeah not sure whats going on otherwise

works for me on my local install which is just my mod + dependencies + unitybrowser and lethalcompanydev (you dont need these two though)

[hybrid hare]

Took me 7 tries and I recorded my alt+tab because I'm dumb but it worked for me (solo, online, aquatis with LECore)

Whether it breaks things in multiplayer is another story though

nvm I think I misunderstood the problem. Guess list + (vanilla moon names) would be a workaround for now

[nova lake]

Yeah to get vanilla moons at the moment that's your best bet if you have lecore

If the dungeon still spawns on Lecore moons after you do that then I'm even more confused than I currently am

[slow hemlock]

a proper config pass is fairly high on my todo list which will make this a lot better but figure rn time better spent on moon stuff

[fleet linden]

LEcore works very well for me with this mod

havent noticed any issues

i had it set to all and guranteed

with 2 clients

both clients had no problems would die to ais etc

no error in logs either

[fleet linden]

happens for me as well

[granite flicker]

I might be crazy, but does typing in one incorrect moon name in the list field cause the rest to not load at all?

I'm also curious if we need to seperate each with a space after each comma, since using the value
experimentation50,offense50,vow50,assurance50,atlasabyss300
doesn't appear to generate the dungeon at all on any the selected moons even with guarantee=true

[fleet linden]

you are inputting it wrongly no ?

it would be 50 experimentation etc

you follow the terminal ingame

unless its been changed recently

[granite flicker]

no I'm referring to the ScoopysVarietyMod.cfg

[fleet linden]

yes i know

[granite flicker]

per the CastleDungeonMoonsList listing:

Moons and rarities should be provided as a comma seperated list in the following format: 'NameRarity' Example: rend300,dine20,experimentation13

[fleet linden]

oh

you are asking him to change how it works

its not an issue you have

[granite flicker]

oh does it just not work right now?

[fleet linden]

since the way we would do it was e.g 13 Kast,

no it does

if you set all it works for me on all moons for example

even modded once

[granite flicker]

yeah I've gotten it to appear with all moons just fine, was just trying to specify it on certain moons and using gaurantee to test

since a dungeon on offense would feel weird

[fleet linden]

yeah to do it manually on each level its like the example i posted

and i think the base level you need to do the internal names

i think atleast unless it was changed ive only tried it on all for now

[slow hemlock]

the answer to this specific question is no

[fleet linden]

was it changed Batby ?

or is it still like 13 Kast,

[slow hemlock]

no no

[fleet linden]

oh wait LE core dont even display them like that

so im not even sure now

[slow hemlock]

the numbers arson is using is rarity

with LLL you get to define rarity per listing

[fleet linden]

oh weights

[slow hemlock]

ye

[fleet linden]

why isnt there numbers

in my levels

hmmm

do i just type Kast instead then ?

for scoopy variety mod

[slow hemlock]

yeah if you want

i dont know if it will be used

but thats how it would work

[fleet linden]

yeah since before it was like 13 Kast,

or internal base game level names

like experimentationLevel or whatever

[slow hemlock]

internal ones don't have Level btw

[fleet linden]

oh rlly

it worked that way in the past

for me

before LLL was even out

[slow hemlock]

prob cuz it was using a contains check

these are all the internal PlanetNames

[fleet linden]

is there config stuff to LLL as well

since you can set weights for spawn rarity

putting Kast worked fine thanks!

wait so does putting a number behind the level adjust its weight to spawn @slow hemlock in scoopy variety mod ?

atlasabyss300

like this

or do i have to do it somewhere else

[slow hemlock]

that is not behind

your example doesn't match the question?

[fleet linden]

?

i mean like this

[slow hemlock]

yeah

[fleet linden]

i see it in the description now

sorry

[slow hemlock]

no no its chill just got confused becasue you said behind with the numbers in front haha

[west gull]

Does anyone know if this mod loads atm?

[fleet linden]

my bad

[slow hemlock]

it does

[granite flicker]

it does

[fleet linden]

works perfectly for me

[west gull]

I keep getting softlocked at the seed loading

[fleet linden]

prob some mod compatibility issue then

[slow hemlock]

have you updated everything?

[west gull]

Yes

[slow hemlock]

whats the log looking like?

[west gull]

uhh where log again?

I'm in the steam

[slow hemlock]

ideally best log is C:\Users\Batby.000\AppData\LocalLow\ZeekerssRBLX\Lethal Company

with your username instead ofc

[west gull]

I do not have locallow

oh there we go it auto skips a few pages when you put in %appdata%

which log? I have about 20

player?

my guess would be these repeated lines?

"CalculatePolygonPath" can only be called on an active agent that has been placed on a NavMesh.
"CalculatePolygonPath" can only be called on an active agent that has been placed on a NavMesh.
"CalculatePolygonPath" can only be called on an active agent that has been placed on a NavMesh.
"CalculatePolygonPath" can only be called on an active agent that has been placed on a NavMesh.
"CalculatePolygonPath" can only be called on an active agent that has been placed on a NavMesh.

[slow hemlock]

player ye

nah those are vanilla lol

can chuck me the whole file

[west gull]

okie

dw about the rogue company thing that mod doesn't exist anymore

wait this file is totally different?

does it only show the lastest?

[slow hemlock]

only the latest

[fleet linden]

why dont you use the modloader r2modman or thunderstore app it will simplify your life 10x

as it setup everything correctly for you and you can sync profile code with your friends

[west gull]

I use thunderstore, just not to play it

[slow hemlock]

@west gull update LLL

[west gull]

you just patched it?

[granite flicker]

yeah r2modman and play modded is an actual godsend

[west gull]

just got it again

what does r2modman do?

[fleet linden]

r2modman is a mod loader

you also open the game through it

it does not interact with ur steam files

so ur normal steam files stays as vanilla

[west gull]

hhh this is so funky

I think this is the real one?

[fleet linden]

but you can just click this button on any mod on thunderstore site if you have any of the loaders and it will install the mods for you correctly

you can config them easier here as well

[west gull]

I do that in thunderstore

[fleet linden]

and you can easily make multiple profiles

oh okay

if you use thunderstore app already its fine

[west gull]

I do not know what r2modman mod does, its just the edit configs but in the in game settings from my understanding?

[fleet linden]

its same as thunderstore app

just no ads

loads faster etc

no overwolf

[west gull]

oh huh

[fleet linden]

you can transfer your thunderstore app code to r2modman if you desire to switch

and you can also play with thunderstore app clients while on r2modman client

[west gull]

I probably will tbh

[fleet linden]

👍

[granite flicker]

yeah I was hesitant too but once I saw it had zero ads and could share codes with friends it's all I use

[fleet linden]

thunderstore app can also share codes

they are nearly identical clients

but the other client is there to support overwolf so they can keep the thunderstore site up

as its the sponsor

this is a confusing name

how would i input this lol

ether - (downtown) ?

experimentation50,offense50,vow50,assurance50,march50,rend100,dine100,titan150,kast350,

i want to add it to my list

[strong gust]

I'd try smth like Ether50 or something like that

[fleet linden]

i mean it has all that things in the name

let me just see if i can get it to work on that i guess

[strong gust]

I did this for Atlas Abyss and it basically guaranteed it for me
It didn't interfere with vanilla maps or any of my other 3 modded maps

I tried it with March first since I originally had an issue where it hanged until all the library mods updated

I can make a test profile and see which keywords work for the sake of documentation

[fleet linden]

hmnm it didnt work and also when i went into the main enterance its like rnging if it wants to send me to main enterance or fire exit on the level it didnt work on

wtf

i need to find out if its the level itself now

the ether level

[granite flicker]

Ether seems to be incredibly buggy for me too yeah

[fleet linden]

like if i went back in and out

[granite flicker]

also INCREDIBLY bad performance wise

[fleet linden]

it would tp me to either fire exit or main enterance location

my pc is rlly good but yeah i can tell it drops my fps a bit

it was still over 100

with 80 mods

[strong gust]

Got it to work for Kast

[fleet linden]

yeah works for me on kast too no issue

i need to find out if the teleporting to fire exit location is related to map or mod

as i dont want main enterance to send me wrong lol

it was like rnging which to use

[granite flicker]

I'm rocking a 4070ti and ryzen5800x but get around 20fps on that map

pretty nuts

[fleet linden]

seems like al evel gimick

you have a better gpu than me i think

i have 3090 gpu

and i9 12900k cpu

dont know anything about ryzen

if you have crazy fps drops it could be ur mods

[granite flicker]

it could be though I'm able to run every other map just fine

[fleet linden]

check ur console for errors

that usally causes fps drops

20 fps is a bit extreme

[granite flicker]

it could be, though I'm not really sweating it since I don't plan on running Ether and all the other maps run just fine

I call this the ostrich strategy

[slow hemlock]

@fleet linden LLL provides a fire exit assignment report in the log

[fleet linden]

why did the level give me a warning message on the thumbnail when loading it up

this map might have some custom gimmicks

[fleet linden]

oh okay

in this case it was prob the level

[slow hemlock]

@nova lake @timber basin i dont know where to put this but were so fucking back

code

        private void Awake()
        {
            ExtendedDungeonConfig castleDungeonConfig = new ExtendedDungeonConfig();
            castleDungeonConfig.BindConfigs(this, "Castle Dungeon");

            ExtendedDungeonConfig scpDungeonConfig = new ExtendedDungeonConfig();
            scpDungeonConfig.BindConfigs(this, "SCP Dungeon");
        }
    }

    public class ExtendedDungeonConfig
    {
        public ConfigEntry<string> dynamicLevelTagsList;
        public ConfigEntry<int> dynamicRoutePricesList;
        public ConfigEntry<int> defaultDungeonRarity;


        public void BindConfigs(BaseUnityPlugin plugin, string dungeonName)
        {
            dynamicLevelTagsList = plugin.Config.Bind(dungeonName + " - General", "Dynamic Level Tags List", "PlanetName: March Rarity: 50", new ConfigDescription("The Dynamic Level Tags List For This Mod"));
            defaultDungeonRarity = plugin.Config.Bind(dungeonName + " - General", "Default Dungeon Rarity", 100, new ConfigDescription("The default rarity of the dungeon.", new AcceptableValueRange<int>(0, 300)));
        }
    }

bepinex config result

[Castle Dungeon - General]

## The Dynamic Level Tags List For This Mod
# Setting type: String
# Default value: PlanetName: March Rarity: 50
Dynamic Level Tags List = PlanetName: March Rarity: 50

## The default rarity of the dungeon.
# Setting type: Int32
# Default value: 100
# Acceptable value range: From 0 to 300
Default Dungeon Rarity = 100

[SCP Dungeon - General]

## The Dynamic Level Tags List For This Mod
# Setting type: String
# Default value: PlanetName: March Rarity: 50
Dynamic Level Tags List = PlanetName: March Rarity: 50

## The default rarity of the dungeon.
# Setting type: Int32
# Default value: 100
# Acceptable value range: From 0 to 300
Default Dungeon Rarity = 100

this means we can use that little class container to standandize every dungeon config from my end

[fleet linden]

the driving train dropped my fps by 30 for a few seconds

[granite flicker]

yeah definitely putting that map in the no no bin for now

[fleet linden]

its not the levels fault

that i was getting tped to fire exit in main enterance

its mod related

but could be due to inputting the name wrong in scoopy variety mod as it was so confusing

i wont even use it on this moon

not sure why they did it like this

[granite flicker]

I assume he's going to add different landing zones in the future?

[slow hemlock]

you can look in the log and see

[fleet linden]

ok

but the log is changed

i disabled the mods to test it

its not the same log anymore

but if i dont put the level on the list it cant spawn on it right

[strong gust]

Ether - (Downtown)### works to spawn it
(Enter the spawn weight on the #)

[fleet linden]

thats how i did it i think no ?

well i didnt use capital

[strong gust]

I don't think it's case sensitive but I put it exactly as-is just to be safe, and it turns out to consistently work

Cause here it is in action

I just threw it in hastily with my normal group pack lols

[fleet linden]

try going in and out of the main enterance

and see if it eventually sends you to fire exit

[strong gust]

Where's the main entrance lol

[fleet linden]

that is it

[strong gust]

Oh

[fleet linden]

xD

[strong gust]

It consistently sends me between here and it seems a fire exit

[slow hemlock]

i'd need a log

[fleet linden]

send him log

mine is outdated

[strong gust]

Uh, how do I get that rq anywho, sorry for dumb question

[fleet linden]

type log in settings

then copy to clipboard

[strong gust]

Gotcha, so I'll need to close my game first to yoink that then?

[fleet linden]

no

you can copy it with game open i think

[strong gust]

Okay

[fleet linden]

but close it to be safe i guess

[west gull]

yeah just swapped everything to r2modman, didn't know it existed and yeah its probably better thanks

[strong gust]

Just closed my game, does this hopefully work?

[timber basin]

nice, so all the dungeon generation config related stuff can just be passed off to LLL when that's done?

[strong gust]

I'm thinking what they did for the Ether map is they did this:
They had a main entrance but removed the ability to interact with it
They set up a different spot that looks like a main entrance, but is actually a fire exit