Egypt (E_Gypt_Moon)

[gaunt flame]

over and over

every single time

[charred siren]

can you send log

[gaunt flame]

i dont have it anymore 😭

it overwrote

[charred siren]

Fair

[gaunt flame]

i will try to reproduce it

unless i get bored

[charred siren]

Can’t look into it without one

Take your time its chill

[gaunt flame]

i will atleast do 10 tests for each

[vale violet]

yeah batby and i are just collectin bugs today

and we'll go ham tomorrow

[charred siren]

Long loading times is semi zeekers/unity fault. I’m gonna try and reaxh out to him

would take him like less than a minute to improve it a lot

[vale violet]

yeah theres alot of optimizations LC can take

[charred siren]

naa its uh

[drifting niche]

The only bug I run across is going to Egypt skips 2 days

[vale violet]

that definitely shouldnt be happening

[charred siren]

AssetBundles don’t prebuild shader variants correctly

And cuz zeekers commited to terrain2mesh the basegame doesn’t prebuild any or the terrain related shaders

he just needs to select it manually

[gaunt flame]

im getting rlly long time without LE at all now wtf

this is why

[drifting niche]

I have not tested more than once yet so it might just be the fact it as on a old save

[gaunt flame]

wrong log

this

@charred siren

wtf who did i ping sorry

[vale violet]

yee thats what i thought was causing it as well

but batby assured me that wasnt it

[gaunt flame]

i cant even play the game btw

its frozen

😄

[charred siren]

placebo

[gaunt flame]

this is my life now

these were my mods

[charred siren]

it gets worse if you alt tab during it i think

[gaunt flame]

i did already

my pc is strong

it can handle it

i just cant tab into the game

its basically crashed

[charred siren]

its not relative to hardware in that sense afaik

[gaunt flame]

here is my log

[drifting niche]

@gaunt flame what is ship to multiplayer mod

[gaunt flame]

skiptomultiplayer mod = skip intro when opening game

[drifting niche]

Ah

[gaunt flame]

sends me to this screen

pretty nice

[charred siren]

The monomod stuff should be fine i think

the loading and harmless navmesh warnings are next on my todo list

[gaunt flame]

yeah sorry

i cant test this

its decdied to perma break itself now

[vale violet]

oo

theres a full crash

[gaunt flame]

i didnt do anything btw

0 alt tabs

just full on waiting

then it crashed

[charred siren]

yup ok

heard

[gaunt flame]

ima try a fresh mod profile

as the profile might be broken

if that dont work i give up

[charred siren]

Nah it won’t be on your sude

side

[gaunt flame]

unlucky

more march work for you

[vale violet]

we were getting inklings of it on our side

just thoughtit was fixed

[gaunt flame]

i want to try 1 more time since first time i loaded it on a new modpack it was instant load

no issue

it did hang for a while

but it didnt crash this time

i just had luck the first time i guess

as it loaded pretty much instant

no fire exit bug though

so cant figure that out

and its too unstable to be tested rn

lol now it loaded without random seed message

but super long hang

maybe 20s

[drifting niche]

mine works fine

[charred siren]

It’s gonna be dependent on hardware, current computer workload and other magic

[vale violet]

yeah my pc is very very high end

[drifting niche]

My PC has a 1050

[charred siren]

I have an idea to mitigate the issue though

hehehe

[drifting niche]

10th gen i9

@vale violet i will say your moon now takes the longest to load

[gaunt flame]

the fire exit bug was on Mansion interior btw

[vale violet]

yee we be experimenting with new stuff

[gaunt flame]

i have i9 12900k and 3090 gpu

its not about having good or bad hardware

[drifting niche]

018cfae2-3f47-0534-3b59-4e379eb3a1fc

[gaunt flame]

code dont matter

[drifting niche]

my code

[gaunt flame]

im testing only with the mod

its pointless

[vale violet]

ah so we all have good hardware

[gaunt flame]

any bad hardware testers ?

[drifting niche]

Also I run le, lec and lll

[vale violet]

[gaunt flame]

how long did it load

to get into the level

was it frozen

then eventually loaded

[drifting niche]

Like maybe a little under a min

[gaunt flame]

oh lmao

so yours are not fine

it takes me 30s to load the level

it should take 2s

[drifting niche]

It's not instant like other moons so it notable

[gaunt flame]

also 2nd trip to planet was normal load

that is the issue we are talking about

so yours is not fine either

[drifting niche]

@gaunt flame I mean I can load it without crashing or it getting stuck loading

[gaunt flame]

that was a 1 time thing

i only crashed once

every other time it loads

but rlly slowly

[vale violet]

yeah that was definitely a stress test sort of thing

[gaunt flame]

i will try booting with two instances with my modpack

to see if the fire exit bug is consistant with more than 1 player

when im hosting

[drifting niche]

@gaunt flame I thought you could not load it at all

[gaunt flame]

i see

[drifting niche]

Also I don't have any issue running LE, LEC, and LLL

Together

As a lot of scrap mods need LE and LEC

[gaunt flame]

i do not either

its just this level

[drifting niche]

@gaunt flame so the fire exit not working or do you keep getting sent to it

[gaunt flame]

the issue to be exact is a 1 time thing in a group of 10 people, i was host i went first in to the main enterance a lot of them stood outside it, i tped in and it put me in the fire exit exit location, not main enterance i go in and out talk to my friends asking where are you guys then i realise im the only one being sent to fire exit

and if i go in and out i always get sent to fire exit in that session

MAIN ENTERANCE - TP FIRE EXIT

basically

[spark cloud]

I feel like 120-200 credits to route would make more sense for how valuable the scrap is, but this is a really cool moon and it's nice to have another mid-game moon to play on so thanks for making this mod

[vale violet]

i had people complaining 200 was too high

but thank you!

[drifting niche]

I mean the moon spawns more scrap than march and offense right then yes

[vale violet]

obviously ill always keep the map priced

but how much price, is up for debate

120 isnt a bad option, i had 60 because then people can go there right from the get go, but at a risk of not having flashlights etc

[drifting niche]

Well if it spawns a lot of loot then 200 is good to me tbh

[solemn hare]

200 seems fair since you can't go to it on the first quota

[drifting niche]

I would say keep the low tire 2 handed loot low as for the most part there just not worth it

Make it so med tire loot is the most common

Followed by low then high

[keen phoenix]

a config would be nice to pick the price maybe?

[vale violet]

I can't configure what kind of loot spawns I don't think

@charred siren though idk if thats something we could look into

same with configurable price

[worldly quarry]

Hey, now that egypt isn't using lethal expansion, lethalexpansion's moons aren't showing up in the terminal, only egypt

[drifting niche]

@vale violet your doing fantastic work do you plan to add more custom scrap or just the head

[queen mesa]

Do you have LethalExpansionCore

[worldly quarry]

no, just lethalexpansion

we're currently playing but ill look into fixing it/getting both later

[vale violet]

When the DunGen update comes there will be a scrap overhaul yes

especially if I can completely customize what scrap is available or not

[drifting niche]

@vale violet hay can you tell @odd topaz how to move to LLL I figure you can help

[vale violet]

You'll need to download LethalExpansionCore, but there are some other issues with that mod that might conflict

[gaunt flame]

keep it 60 on released version

or make multiple uploads

[odd topaz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1147608357906174076/1194690080963575859/42B91449-9BDE-4E0A-96C6-0E2520C4E4B6.gif?ex=65b144d7&is=659ecfd7&hm=28b23b5acf6070186872787151ecf65240e0de506f468898d323fd6adca89993&

[gaunt flame]

as people rely on thunderstore or r2modman

my friends will not do things manually and 60 works perfectly for this map its the only map that costs 60 to my knowledge

[vale violet]

Batby and I are working together with LLL and moon conversions together - trying to make sure everything is ready and available for moons going forward

[gaunt flame]

will you eventually impliment control over moon prices Batby ?

so uploaders dont have to do make seperate versions themself

[vale violet]

I think when Egypt is finally (mostly) bug free I'll be happy to help @odd topaz in their conversion :)

[charred siren]

level and item dynamic injection/customisation options like the dungeon stuff will be added in the future yes

[vale violet]

you might run into more problems than its worth converting early atm

[odd topaz]

im so sorry i have so many moons 😭

[drifting niche]

I figured just thought you were the right person to ask since he don't know where to start on moving his moons to LLL

[vale violet]

You can at least start by making a new template unity project, getting the asset rip, going to your old LE moon project, unpacking your Moon prefab and moving it into the new project, and then removing all the broken LE scripts

that will at least prepare the moons for LLL

[odd topaz]

oh boy

[vale violet]

that was my exact reaction

BUT

BUT

[odd topaz]

i will once i push this update making a bad map not bad anymore

😭

[vale violet]

i'd recommend waiting

[odd topaz]

oh

alr

[vale violet]

because we're still working on LLL and stuff

[drifting niche]

It was not bad me and my friends loves hydro

[vale violet]

we might find better ways to handle things in the future

[odd topaz]

it could be so much better 💔

[vale violet]

and batby probably knows better than me anyway lmao

[odd topaz]

only one i like is devastation

[queen mesa]

Aw I really like icebound

[drifting niche]

@odd topaz well I can bata test your stuff

[charred siren]

the big pro of vanilla maps is that your unrestricted in what you can do and it lets you understand how the game actually works with what your content is

the big con right now is it's hard to explain how the base game works and how it expects your content to be like

the audioreverbtriggers are some of the stupidiest things in the world with how the basegame has them setup but once you know how they work their actually super powerful

[odd topaz]

after i drop update maybe you can help test some of my other stuff

[odd topaz]

how so?

[drifting niche]

I would love to

[vale violet]

I completely forgot I have D&D in an hour so I gotta run friends, please feel free to keep reporting bugs but I will be MIA for the next couple hours

[drifting niche]

Have fun

[odd topaz]

have fun lol

[charred siren]

its too hard to explain lmaoo

[odd topaz]

fair enough

[charred siren]

tl;dr the usepreset being -1 or not -1 pretty much decides if the audioreverbtrigger is two semi completely different things

[vale violet]

this

[charred siren]

yeee

[odd topaz]

weird

[solemn hare]

Egypt is making people crash when I play it with them, vanilla moons are fine

[odd topaz]

modlist?

[solemn hare]

018cfb65-0a2e-595a-b11c-7ab83e049961

Creating a fresh mod list with the v47 out, so I plan to add some more to it.

should be 25 mods

[charred siren]

will likely be solved next egypt update

[solemn hare]

kk, will disable it for now

[sturdy crane]

im trying to run this with lethalquantities, EGyptMoon and LLL, and lethalquantities throws an error only when EgyptMoon is enabled, but not when LLL alone is enabled. I checked through the unity explorer and it seemed like the manticoil prefab property of the manticoil EnemyType is null? does Egypt modify EnemyTypes?

[drifting niche]

so dont get terminal api by not atomic bomb it is what makes all custom moons not show besides Egypt

[drifting niche]

^

that might be why

[worldly quarry]

I don't have terminal api

[drifting niche]

@worldly quarry give me your code

[worldly quarry]

018cfac8-1c38-2269-f9b3-da358f2d2d9a

we also experienced a desync while playing; tried to go to aquatis, me (host) and someone else saw aquatis while several others saw wateridge

[drifting niche]

ok i will look into it just give me some time

[worldly quarry]

for now we're trying a new profile sans egypt and LLL

[drifting niche]

LE and LEC i dont have problems with so it might be somthing elses

you have a lot of mods so it will take time to import

[charred siren]

ok @gaunt flame @vale violet next egypt and LLL update should make egypt load pretty much instantly

[drifting niche]

@charred siren nice

[gaunt flame]

big

[agile kestrel]

anyone else getting stuck on the seed screen?

world loads and i can freecam around to see it but the screen is stuck 😦

nvm it was lethal quantities all along

[vale violet]

theres some other stuff that's causing that and it'll be fixed next patch

but navmesh just completely broke on our end and I can't figure out why

most of the other issues are fixed though

[agile kestrel]

after reinstall of lethal quantities old version it's fine

new lq isnt working seems like

[vale violet]

2.0.1 pushed, lots of fixes, but not perfect. There's a high likelyhood that the outside navmesh is fucked, but I'd rather the moon mostly work, not freeze/crash and break and have a slightly broken outside than have a non-functioning mod at all

2.0.1 will add LethalExpansionCore for compatibility reasons and no future versions will have this dependency, if you have mods that do not use LethalExpansion, feel free to remove the mod after updating to 2.0.1

[dull moon]

@vale violet is it normal that 2.0.1 doesn't include the bundle?

[vale violet]

wot

[dull moon]

it's 179kb 😭

[vale violet]

WOOPS

[dull moon]

haha just letting you know!!

[vale violet]

long day

[queen mesa]

bro wasnt kidding about that reduced file size in the changelog

[vale violet]

pushing

[astral belfry]

im sure it will load even FASTER

[queen mesa]

SO FAST

[vale violet]

pushed

[astral belfry]

[vale violet]

waiting for TS

does anyone still have 2.0.0

actually wait i have a copy

oh nvm no i dont

i think 2.0.0 was like 160MB?

2.0.2 will be 49MB

2.0.2 on Thunderstore website

im off to bed, i fully expect reports of the navmesh breaking for stuff like manticoils to pop up but

everything else should be working

eclipsed sun texture is still fucked i think but all other issues shouldve been resolved

[unreal lintel]

I'll check later if it still crashes when creating custom dungeon

[tribal ferry]

spam this is :)))

work landing but. when already landin spamming so much and make game lag

[queen mesa]

Waiter! Waiter!

More navmesh issues please!

[deep remnant]

Exits and entrances are desynced, for example;

I enter by the main entrance and end up at one of the fire exits of the scp dungeon.

like, there's not a single chance to actually spawn at the main entrance of the dungeon if I'm on egypt and the scp dungeon is loaded

[vale violet]

we have reason to suspect thats due to LethalExpansionCore

and isnt actually due to the moon

(okay actually bedtime now)

[void gorge]

Something's up with the map

I just updated to the latest version, definitely loads faster now but

I literally went straight as I left the ship, and after you go down the stairs at the start you just fall off the map

will do a quick vid in a sec

[worthy oxide]

same here just happened thats why i joined the discord to report this

[void gorge]

with the usual navmesh spam on console

[worthy oxide]

yeah i was trying to jump over it seems to be a hole there

[vale violet]

ahhh

fuck

thats my bad

ill have a fix first thing in the morning

[void gorge]

all good

[gaunt flame]

@charred siren are you sure about it being Core i thought it was either backrooms or interior mods

When you looked at my playerlogs

If you want this fixed i need to know what to tell Joakim

[void gorge]

I had the desynced entrances too on another moon (Ether), I don't have backrooms, I do have both interior mods installed though, but that moon uses a slightly modified mansion interior

[gaunt flame]

Yeah well we know the exact cause just not what mod

attatched to the suspected log, yeah

Generate floor and ceiling
Generate walls
Generate room
Generate walls 2
Generate inside 2
Failed to create agent because there is no valid NavMesh

Batby sent me this is the issue from my logs yesterday

the entrance teleporter bug is basically some other mod made it so the doors network spawned out of order in a weird way which caused my fire patch fix to think their was double the amount of doors on the moon

all roads leads back to march

[void storm]

i still have 2.0.0

but isnt it like

backed up on thunderstore?

[crisp dust]

It is.

[void storm]

Oh

sorry for the ping then i guess 😭

[vale violet]

morning everyone

[vale violet]

if batby said otherwise take what he said over me

gunna grab breakfast and ill have a collider fix pushed in an hour or so given nothing goes wrong

[gaunt flame]

gm

[nocturne wedge]

so we just fell through the sand right after the ship

[vale violet]

itll be fixed in an hour

[true sand]

Apart from falling through the sand my friends were telling me it was very laggy for them (I was the host and went fine for me)

[vale violet]

might be the navmesh spam, but hard to say, it wouldnt be the new terrain as the resolution is much lower

oh this might be more complicated

i didnt forget a mesh collider when i made the terrain

something else is goin on here

oh yeah, wtf is going on with this terrain

i believe i fixed it

and i mightve fixed navmesh too

i think i found the root of the problem

ah, nevermind, well, worms kill you through the terrain at least again

and you dont fall through the gorund

ill just post here for moon devs - when using Terrain2Mesh for your optimization, you need to set the mesh to Resolution and not Vertices and keep the normal as CalculateFromMesh

(also if you want your exterior to show up on the RenderTexture screen inside the ship, set the Layer of your terrain to Room)

pushing 2.0.3, gunna try and see if i can figure out navmesh today but

honestly i have no fuckin clue because nothing changed between a few patches ago and now

2.0.3 is pushed

[nocturne wedge]

so the ground works right

but monsters might not?

[vale violet]

yes

monsters are bork

[astral belfry]

did you fix the ground in this update

🥺

[vale violet]

yesh

[astral belfry]

oh goody!

[peak summit]

Extrem Lag spikes but only for clients not me the host

[vale violet]

yeah, the navmesh is broken

[peak summit]

Yeeaaah but it only really happens when you excess the treminal

[vale violet]

pain

[peak summit]

Wouldn't wanna be you

[peak summit]

actually that might not be true

[vale violet]

okay i did some testing and have a theory on whats up with the navmesh but wont know for sure til batbys back

[gaunt flame]

everytime i loaded the level even yesterday if it loaded without nav mesh spam i had stable 144 fps

the problem isnt the textures i dont think

[vale violet]

nah, textures are at 1024 and materials are all gpu instanced

[crisp dust]

Is ship not being able to leave a known issue/conflict?

[vale violet]

oh thats new, what's happening?

[crisp dust]

Must be a conflict.

[vale violet]

do you initiate the take-off lever and nothing happens, are there errors in the log?

[crisp dust]

And it's gone...

[crisp dust]

I was a bout to re-test it.

[haughty narwhal]

Whats the moon called for like, adding dungeon generation to it

[vale violet]

egypt

[novel owl]

has the progress for the new dungeon interior began?

[vale violet]

yes

[haughty narwhal]

cool

[novel owl]

nice is there screenshots?

[vale violet]

but currently is on hold while we're trying to fix the major issues with LLL

[novel owl]

oh ok

[vale violet]

i think i posted a screenshot a few days ago

\week ago?

[crisp dust]

What I did was land on it and then left as soon as I could. Ship started to leave, but when it reached a point where the doors were supposed to close, it just instantly went back to landing spot like nothing happened.

[vale violet]

woah

if you can get me the log for that itd be great

[crisp dust]

I can't reproduce it now for some reason.

And my terminal broke now, what is going on??? I didn't change anything.

[vale violet]

send me your modlist then?

oh if stuff is stil breaking then yeah, close game and send the log

[crisp dust]

I'll send it when I'll actually get the bug I was talking about initially.

[vale violet]

unlikely the moon has anything to do with the terminal

but somethings breakin over there

[charred siren]

https://tenor.com/view/indecisive-i-dont-know-not-sure-larry-david-gif-5682454

[vale violet]

[crisp dust]

Great, now everything broke on landing.

Okay, terminal breaking is a separate issue. Seems to be happening when I run 32 player lobby.

Actually it's happening with 8 too.

[charred siren]

what do you mean by terminal breaking

[crisp dust]

I press E on it and it's no longer usable. Nothing happens.

[vale violet]

You press E and you don't go into the terminal, just nothing happens?

[crisp dust]

Yeah.

Everything is fine on my testing profile though.

Ignore the terminal thing. Was me issue.

[vale violet]

ah okay

[crisp dust]

And now the issue is gone without me really changing anything. Sorry for bothering you.

[vale violet]

not a problem!

happens

[forest root]

Aiai :P

loaded into Stormy Egypt with a friend

[forest root]

can you pick up things?

[forest root]

oh, LLL is broken?

[vale violet]

no, egypt is the first major convertor from LE to LLL

so it’s the poster child of problems

[drifting niche]

@vale violet your doing a fantastic job so far

[forest root]

devs here are so crazy good

is insane

[gaunt flame]

is the level in a playable state now ?

or does the nav mesh error still happen sorry for annoying question

i will prob test it more on my own but not in a group yet

[vale violet]

not in the current upload but we have a local build that is very promising

2.0.4 incoming

actually i'll call it 2.1

nah nvm

2.1 is gunna be dungen

2.0.4 on thunderstore in the next 5-10min

On TS!

Should be on the app very shortly

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-the-clone-wars-fives-death-the-mission-the-nightmares-gif-17402131

me @ navmesh

assuming no major bugs pop up from 2.0.4, i'm gunna take a few days off for another project ive gotta work on and then pick up dungen next week

[crisp dust]

https://tenor.com/view/frankt-gif-23053238

[queen mesa]

[daring island]

As a software engineer myself I know this isn't only for community purposes but also for himself to know what he did to fix it in case it comes up again xD

[vale violet]

also for people who want to learn!

I know there are alot of moon-makers in here spying

bed time for me, have fun everyone!

as always feel free to bug report while im away

[daring island]

true forgot about that, not everyone does that unfortunately

[crisp dust]

I'll take overly detailed patch notes any day.

[verbal timber]

navmesh fix LETSGOOOOO

[sharp bolt]

Yeo just comin to praise how much I like the gameplay loop on this map

it's a steep enough walk to feel unease but short enough to know it's actually doable even with constant factors against you along with having options to choose which routes you wanna take from the facility back to the ship without it feeling like a forced route for players to take along with just constant optimizations, thank you for helping extend the life of this game!

I only ask that you add a weird apparatus room when you introduce the dungeon, since I've noticed that SCP and Scoopy's haven't added it yet

[tribal ferry]

FireExit and MainEntrance no Sync
also the Building still no fix :[, i'm inside Building

[charred siren]

Will be fixed as soon as possible

[tribal ferry]

From FireExit 1, you will Teleport FireExit1 Inside > then if you Enter FE1 Inside you will Teleport to FE2 Inside then when enter FE Outside 1 not 2
same like Main Entrance > FE 1 Outside > Main Entrance Inside > FE 2 Inside > FE 1 Inside > FE 2 Outside

^ this is get Teleported wrong Location

[drifting niche]

@vale violet the underside of your map was fun to explore you made some hellacious quick sand

[vale violet]

morning everyone

[vale violet]

which one is this?

[turbid marten]

I left egypt and went to the company building and it looks like the egypt map is merged with the company building. i am playing on a modpack (not lethal expansion/core)

[vale violet]

wot the fuck

can i get your modlist

[turbid marten]

this is offense. im assuming its just not unloading

how do i send a list? im assuming its a mod conflict

[vale violet]

if you go to thunderstore, settings, you can export profile as code

[turbid marten]

018d0442-6933-831b-3221-8c30824765a4 like so?

[vale violet]

yup perfect thanks

will take a look in a bit

[gaunt flame]

What da faq

[tribal ferry]

All Building Outside FireExit 1, 2

[vale violet]

oh, i know why

[shrewd yoke]

Yoo that looks great, it'd be cool if the sandstorm effect appeared as a weather on the desert moons in that way, like a foggy equivalent

[vale violet]

the sandstorm effect is just a volumetric fog

its just this + whatever the light settings i have are

[vale violet]

wait maybe not

[sturdy crane]

is there any reason why LLL or egypt creates copies of enemy types? Some of the enemytype's prefabs are null

and what is the Puffer_0 enemy?

[vale violet]

Puffer is the uhh

puffer lizzard

[sturdy crane]

oh

but why is it puffer_0? im trying to edit the mob spawning amounts with another mod but i dont know which ones to use

[vale violet]

it was an error on my part during the asset rip

i can actually fix that right now

[sturdy crane]

oh ok

[vale violet]

its because there are two monobehaviors called Puffer

one for the terminal keyword and one for the enemy

[sturdy crane]

but why is it an enemytype?

[vale violet]

because it stores this information

its a stub that the game then reads and replaces with its own logic

iirc

batby will know better specifics

[sturdy crane]

🤔

ok

[vale violet]

LLL is meant to replicate behaviors similar to how eva's Unity template behaves

where instead of re-coding the game, we have a bunch of stubs

that are empty

so when the game loads, it recognizes the name of a bunch of empty objects and goes 'i know what this is'

because otherwise, we'd have huge file sizes

for example in 2.0.2, Egypt's file size was 160MB, a huge chunk of that filesize was just having Enemy Prefab referencing the prefabs of each enemy

[sturdy crane]

😬

[vale violet]

so it'd load each one from my mod as opposed to the one from the game

so now that it's empty, it just sees the stub and loads the one from the game

Puffer will be fixed next patch, I forgot I made that error

[sturdy crane]

is LLL loading the stub, or is it the normal game doing that?

[vale violet]

should be the normal game but I'm not sure

[sturdy crane]

hmmm ok

so if another mod gets the enemy types, how does it know which one is the real one?

[vale violet]

could you be more specific

[sturdy crane]

like, normally if another mod uses Resources.FindObjectsOfTypeAll<EnemyType>(), it returns the vanilla enemy types, but when egypt is loaded, it returns the vanilla ones and the stubs from egypt

and they have the same name too

[vale violet]

oh its giving both?

gotcha

ill pass that onto batby

[sturdy crane]

yeah, thats why the unity explorer mod shows all of them

[vale violet]

though you might want to ask this in the LLL channel

i can ping you in there if youd like

[sturdy crane]

ok thanks, that would be helpful

i wasnt sure which it was since LLL didnt have this on its own

[vale violet]

yeah its technically moon-based but its due to how LLL handles things

[vale violet]

thisll be fixed next patch

the fireexit mainentrence sync is still a known issue

we know the reason behind it though

[forest root]

could I get a ping in there too plz? :P

[agile kestrel]

puffer0 is from diversity afaik

[vale violet]

nah it was an error from me

two monobehaviors with matching names

[verbal timber]

game crashes trying to go to EGypt twice in a row (regardless of surviving/dying the previous day)

[vale violet]

yeah i discovered this bug today too

[verbal timber]

do you need mod list? r2 client is not letting me export rn

[void storm]

Yep it happened to me when I travelled there the first time

It took up my CPU to 100% and i couldnt even open task manager 😭

I think it could be LE related since the new update

[verbal timber]

i didnt have core installed tho

nor LethalExpansionSDK

[void storm]

Because in the last update everything worked well

huh

[charred siren]

https://tenor.com/view/the-bear-tv-show-jeremy-allen-white-stirring-the-pot-gif-27412547

[void storm]

then I guess its something else

[charred siren]

Next LLL update will have far more stable custom moon support

There was a big oversight

[verbal timber]

yippee

[void storm]

A bit out of theme of this channel

Will there be any tutorials for LLL?

[verbal timber]

bahdam from scp dungen is making a guide right

[charred siren]

Yeah

[vale violet]

we’re working on stabilizing egypt then we’re going straight into making tutorial content for moons dungens etc

so a part of the reason dungen for egypt will take some time is because im not only making my dungen but im also going to try to make easy greybox dungen tools for people to make their own simple dungens with

to see how stuff works

[verbal timber]

thats nice

ty for the regular updates

[vale violet]

or i should say thats what im doing

batby does what batbys prios are

per their list

i go sleep now its 4am woops

[void storm]

Damn thats great to hear

Good luck with it

[queen mesa]

something EXTREMELY weird just happened

gonna post a clip

where do i pull the log from?

found it

[vale violet]

[queen mesa]

LMAO

i have no clue man

[vale violet]

i dont even see an error corresponding with it

wtf

it looks like the default scene camera was initialized and not the one for the player controller

[queen mesa]

strange

couldve been a one off quirk

[crisp dust]

This is what was happening to me too.

That was an issue with GeneralImprovements and Corporate Restructure, but it should be resolved now.

[shrewd yoke]

@vale violet After dying almost instantly on our first visit to Egypt to water in flooded it appears the company building is now suffering the pharaoh's curse

[queen mesa]

AGAIN

LMAO

[vale violet]

im pretty sure this is due to the moon being loaded twice and upon leaving it only unloads it once (as it should)

[shrewd yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/curse-of-set-curse-of-ra-curse-pharaoh's-curse-sand-gif-770168623807474523

Yeah that would seem to be it, it follows us to space

[keen phoenix]

stuck on loading seed

loading in by myself works but with friends crashes

[vale violet]

yeah we have some issues with non-host clients double loading

[gaunt flame]

this map is voodo magic or something

it has like curses inbuilt to it

all roads leads back to march

[queen mesa]

i had this happen again on another custom moon strangely

restarted the game and loaded the moon again and then it worked fine

very weird

[charred siren]

Entrance and most of the other issues reported have been fixed, I just need to clean it up for release tomorrow 😄

[nocturne wedge]

What's the internal name?

[lunar hatch]

has the issue with rain not darkening the ground been resolved?

[spring torrent]

I swear our whole group gets lost trying to find their way inside on this moon, stoked to see the potential for custom interior though

[shrewd yoke]

Me and my mate died instantly upon landing, it was flooded and we mistook a pit for our path

[vale violet]

just follow the lights oO

[vale violet]

egypt

[spring torrent]

last time we played there weren't any lights afaik, it was an earlier version though

[vale violet]

ah yeah, that was a while back then

lot has changed since

[spring torrent]

we got lost, someone walked through a pyramid that wasn't a solid object and then we fell into pits

[spring torrent]

WOW, the lethallevelloader difference for load time is massive

[charred siren]

Higher or lower

[spring torrent]

Much much faster

[vale violet]

new wiki tabs added :)

[vale violet]

which includes this overview map!

as well as weight tables

[keen phoenix]

I feel like most people dont check the wiki tab you shiould make it more obv in the readme i think

[vale violet]

already lined up for the next update

[fringe storm]

This is so nice for my brain to comprehend

[torn hound]

Hi to anybody reading this, I'm a sound designer wanting to get more into modding for LC. I plan to help out with this project and I've been talking a bit with @vale violet about some potential ideas I've had. So I'm gonna share them here! I believe these could be realistic goals in the long term but for now only some may be achievable.

My proposal - aliens built the pyramids?!

LC already has campy conspiracy themes. So I think that leaning into the alien angle for the pyramids would fit perfectly. A take on the classic 'ancient alien civilisation' conspiracy theory.
I don't think everything should be spelled clearly for the player, but rather allude to a wider mystery. Make them ask questions! Of course there's the lore entries, but I'd like to suggest a few other ways that this could be done -

Ancient carvings/glyphs vaguely depicting past events, either on the walls or on big stone tablets. For example, a pyramid taking off from a planet or flying to another with alien figures disembarking (are our pyramids crashed spaceships??). It would also be fun to add actual hieroglyphics that the player could translate if they took the time. Words like "home" or "escape".

The rooms of the dungeon could be mostly inconspicuous corridors and dusty old chambers. But among them are some less common rooms with strange details. Old machinery, long since rusted up. What was it for? Maybe this WAS a ship! Metal paneling and strange circuitry hidden behind crumbling stone walls. And perhaps one specific idea that I had - a room resembling a tomb, where in the centre we have some sort of broken cryogenic pod, like a sci fi sarcophagus. What happened to its contents? Did something go wrong?
Custom scrap! An easy one. Wesley's moon mods do this really well, to give an example. It's an effective but simple way of world building. A mix of objects directly related to the environment and old artefacts. Here's a few examples -
Stone gears
Old circuitry
Ancient pendant (could have a use?)
Elongated alien skull (rare!)

Next, enemies and hazards. These would long term goals, I imagine. Just something to consider for the future when modding tools are better. Vanilla hazards such as mines and turrets could be given a new look, but it'd be fun to have other new traps. Perhaps moving floors or doors, dart traps etc. Something you'd expect in an Indianna Jones film, though perhaps with a more alien twist (yes I know Crystal Skull exists!)
That leaves one thing - a custom enemy. To be honest I don't have any solid ideas for this, but maybe it could be an old defense system, still active. Some sort of robot built from stone and glowing circuitry. Or perhaps it could be something totally different, a dangerous life form. Possibly responsible for the demise of the civilisation that used to live here???

Sorry for the heaps of text, I just wanted to put that out there. I'd like to hear any thoughts 🙂

[forest root]

atlas abyss got some cool heiroglyphic designs

[torn hound]

ah yeah with the masks

[forest root]

I dont believe we have the manpower/technology to adequately do these kinds of big ideas yet all at once (well sort of). Egypt right now is set to be the "innovator" of moons, we still need a new scrap API/tool-system-whatever for actually unique scrap, LethalLevelLoader is still being developed to perform well/be useful for making custom interiors (especially important when making rooms with unique abilities)... and the Moonsneer mod is the current innovator of enemy ai/modelling.

.
I know its a weird ask but if you literally come back with this exact concept like in less than two weeks there will be people with the capabilities of making this stuff real and organized :P

[torn hound]

oh yeah for sure, I realise that. These are blue sky ideas, I'm just throwing stuff out there

[forest root]

dang it i just realized i referred to us as we when i still haven't coded a brick

the people here are so talented

[torn hound]

lol I edited the "us" out of my message too, didnt feel right 😛

I'm just here to help

[forest root]

same!

[torn hound]

The scrap and carving texture stuff has been done before, I believe thats all doable. A new enemy would be a lofty goal

As for the room stuff I described, I was imagining that being purely a static part of the environment. So IK it's easy for me to say but I think that could be achieved

[forest root]

yeah for sure! be sure to check out the moonsneer, it seems to me like its going to be the first monster mod (which means future mods will be able to use its tools to make creature creation a LOT easier)

[torn hound]

Mm I've seen the thread, wasnt sure how far along it was

[forest root]

true but there seem to be a lot of bugs with interiors that might need to be fixed first.
besides that tho, the amount of stuff that is being developed now is crazy, which is why I could definitely see after two weeks, the amount of mods that will be doing this kind of stuff will shoot up, and making this kind of stuff will be way way easier

You could probably make it yourself if the concept garnered enough attention to get some assistance from others - just this mod has I think 3-5 people helping with it?

personally very excited for this hehe :P

[torn hound]

mhm. I used to be very active in Minecraft modding and seeing stuff here made me nostalgic for the early days of that. Though it seems to be happening much faster here!

[forest root]

Yeah! I think it might be because of how popular Unity + C# is now compared to java whatever people coded on back then

[torn hound]

Notepad and a spoon 😛

[errant fog]

It's a combination of factors for me personally. Lethal Company is a simple game in concept and in execution, so it's easy to come up with cool ideas on the spot and to implement them. I think that the slight jankiness of the game both graphically and mechanically also helps for new modders to get into developing stuff, cause you don't need to be an expert 3D modeller or coder to actually add stuff to the game without it looking completely out of place

[shrewd yoke]

Lethal Company is one of those really comfy games for me, pure dopamine, time management and a good bit of situational thinking

[torn hound]

mm for sure, I feel it was the same for MC. that was all developer assets and the game could be a bit broken. So it wouldnt matter if your mods were 😛

[vale violet]

2.0.5 inc

just to note - load times will be a bit longer from now on, no more mega fast load times, but it's more in-line with how LC actually loads their levels

on my end load times are about 5-6 seconds

this isnt due to errors or bugs, though.

2.0.5 pushed!

[forest root]

What makes the load times longer?

(Will test once I get home)

(Or, what made the load times shorter before)

[mellow oracle]

Just want to say, this is the only new moon ive included in my modpack so far, its being actively supported, much appreciated

[charred siren]

Egypt uses quite a lot of MeshColliders, which provide accurate collisions based on the mesh but are relatively demanding. The longer load times are caused by all the initial physics calculations done at the start of the scene loading. The previous version of LLL turned them all off before creating the level and slowly turned them back on asynchronously to avoid the game having to wait for it to be done.

Now that LLL uses custom scenes for custom levels rather than putting a custom prefab in a vanilla scene, I can't access and modify the level at runtime before it loads. In the near future this will be a feature of my optional unity editor tool that will simply turn them all off right before assetbundle build so I can re-create the same effect 🙂

[forest root]

That is very very clever :P I see. But, LLL using a custom scene instead of a prefab on vanilla scene… do you know what that allows for/why it was necessary?

[forest root]

Solutions like these are what me love programming :P hehe

[charred siren]

i could go on a long rant about the stupid differences but tldr it's like sneaking into area 51 vs. just getting an offical pass

[forest root]

I guess that makes sense. But I’m assuming zeekers doesn’t have this solution in place for his moons right?

[charred siren]

the meshcollider stuff?

[forest root]

Yea, enabling the colliders one by one for efficiency reasons

[charred siren]

yeah vanilla doesn't do this. vanilla levels are a lot more optimizised in this context so it's not as big of a problem

i've thought about trying to mess with that though

[forest root]

Ahh I see. Is optimizing moons like how zeekers did less plausible with custom ones?

[charred siren]

possibly less juice to squeeze yeah

[tribal ferry]

this is moons get Stuck on Waiting Of Crew.
already waiting over 1 min still not done Waiting of Crew

[maiden geyser]

what other mods do you have?

[tribal ferry]

1 min 20 second done Loading....

[tribal ferry]

many ofc 🙂 69 mods

[astral belfry]

I have 117 mods

dont have that issue

ez

[tribal ferry]

y this is issue device

potato pc what u expect

ofc for Mid/High PC Fast

[astral belfry]

Well I think you should expect long loading times for a "potato pc" and lots of mods

[tribal ferry]

lol mods no problem

this is moons problem

Orion normal, Infernis Normal, Ethers Normal, Atlas Abyss normal

everything is normal loading

only this is long

[astral belfry]

yeah but egypt is built different

[tribal ferry]

save spot ( for sandworm ) + missing floor

and weird texture on sky

ok.... secret?

[vale violet]

zzzzz i hate this terrain collider thing

and wtf i thought i deleted that

ill push a quick fix for that 1s

[vale violet]

we're changing to a new style of loading with scenes and i dont think atlas abyss has shifted from prefab yet

[vale violet]

oh this isnt the terrain its a corrutped collider on an old ProBuilder mesh

i can fix this

[forest root]

do you actually load in in the end?

[vale violet]

pushing 2.0.6 now

[vale violet]

fixes all this stuff

Pushed!

[vale violet]

2.0.7 mini-patch pushed, some tiny fixes

[queen mesa]

how does the scrap and difficulty compare to other moons? is it around offense and march?

more towards rend?

[vale violet]

you can check the wiki for all the specifics,

its inbetween march and rend

with some variations

[queen mesa]

oh word

actual wiki content

[queen mesa]

unless im blind i dont see the inetnal name listed on the wiki

for applying custom interiors

[tribal ferry]

this is missing floor still not fixing.

[spring torrent]

[Warning: Unity Log] The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object '') is missing!```

[haughty narwhal]

I feel like one reason this planet is so laggy is because the land goes out SO far outside of accessible distance

It makes the mesh collider way larger than it needs to be, and has to calculate lighting all the way out there too

[shut barn]

this works for more interiors config

[queen mesa]

hm

cuz im trying to make scoopy's spawn on egypt and atlas and its throwing me an error

[astral belfry]

are you putting a rarity

[queen mesa]

i shouldn't need to I thought?

or do i need to when using the list functionality

[astral belfry]

when you use the list functionality

you need to

[queen mesa]

oh alright

yup you right

thanks

[vale violet]

youd be surprised - vanilla moons have terrain going even further

[haughty narwhal]

Yea but nowhere near as far. I have looked, it took me a bit to reach the end in freecam

[vale violet]

theres a plane in egypt but it doesnt have a collider

whereas the ones on march, experimentation do

they go way farther

[vale violet]

also as a plane itd have a box collider not a mesh collider

so itd be low impact

[haughty narwhal]

I assumed it was apart of the map's terrain mesh my mistake.

[shrewd yoke]

@vale violet Just a heads up our group played and I found a couple things, first the inside spawn deviation must be bugged, we had all monsters spawn instantly, in total 3 coilheads, 2 hoarder bugs, 2 snare fleas, 1 bunker spider and the ambient wind howling seems to stay where the ship spawns at the start of landing

[vale violet]

i actually discovered that as well when i played last night, we had a coilhead and a blob right at the entrance

im not actually sure if thats my fault or what

cause i havent touched the times at which they spawn

and could you clarify what you mean by the ambient wind?

oh is the audio 3d like if you move away from it it goes away?

[shrewd yoke]

Yeah on us we had it for SCP, which was pretty scary but sellbodies made it pretty profitable! And on my walk back the moon was dead silent, taking off as the ship got to the end I started hearing a wind sound that I think should be playing through the moon

[vale violet]

ah

okay

i know what i fucked up then

this stuff is really hard to test

[shrewd yoke]

Totally understandable, I like to report these sorts of things 🫡

[astral belfry]

wow this moon is cursed.. so cursed that I literally cant leave

Im trapped here forever

aaaaugggh

even in death the ship stays

(Im playing alone)

[vale violet]

sorry i cant tell whats happening in the screenshots

like you cant take off?

[astral belfry]

nope!

and only this moon

ok well i cant say only this moon since I didnt go to every moon

but all vanilla moons were fine

so was aquatis and orion

i didnt go to atlas abyss or secret labs

[vale violet]

could you send the log?

[astral belfry]

i think it was flooded with some pathfinding or something with ai error

im getting it rn

although I have a mod that cleans up logs

so

idk if that will remove anything important

[vale violet]

ah yeah it mightve

cause i cant see when you tried to take off or even when you landed

[astral belfry]

ill disable them and go back to egypt!

wow

that

may be

not helpful

[astral belfry]

(I sent the wrong file)

[split bridge]

My log with the same problem. Line 4162 is the error that occurred when I tried to leave the moon.

[vale violet]

can i get both your modlists

@split bridge @astral belfry

[astral belfry]

018d19eb-b9d0-0de8-8b0d-d22ed70119df

[split bridge]

018d19eb-3fe5-eb97-0b8f-f1072eda4b11

[vale violet]

tyty

[vale violet]

mkay yeah ive recreated the error with a modlist that shares 41 mods between you two

found it

Its GeneralImprovements

disable it and you'll be fine

@astral belfry @split bridge

[astral belfry]

that mod literally fixes so many vanilla issues tho

do you know why its happening?

[queen mesa]

nooooo dude i cant get rid of generalimprovements 😭

the dev is super responsive on their github if you wanna bring up the issue to them

https://github.com/Shaosil/LethalCompanyMods-GeneralImprovements

[vale violet]

it might be an interaction between GI and LLL

[queen mesa]

oh really

damn i just got this mod and it has so many nice features :(

[vale violet]

the moon honestly is just using LLL for everything

otherwise its structured exactly like a LC moon is

so stuff that involves more complicated errors like that are related to LLL not the moon itself

[charred siren]

I'll look into it later tonight

[vale violet]

or rather i should say interactions with LLL

[queen mesa]

erm

i fell in

water??

and am not drowning

[vale violet]

which water

the jump puzzle or the other area

[queen mesa]

jump puzzle

[vale violet]

thats odd there should be drown triggers there

will look

[vale violet]

oh yeah

water trigger got fucked

ill hotfix that

[queen mesa]

hotfix? hotfix tonight king? hotfix when king?

[forest root]

chill :P let man cook

[queen mesa]

im just messin lol

i dont mean to actually rush

[forest root]

(ong wait can we please add a bot to the discord that replies to every rush comment with "let them cook")?

[queen mesa]

just gonna disable it for the time being

[queen mesa]

real

[vale violet]

sorry i got distracted with decals

trying to figure out why quicksand isnt rendering on custom moons

HDRP is a pain in the ass

[vale violet]

I'll push my fixes tomorrow but I'll be taking a short leave from EGypt as a comission I was working on just got pushed to high priority

please feel free to let me know about any bugs and I'll address major ones as soon as I possibly can

[charred siren]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-you-can-rest-now-sad-at-peace-tony-stark-gif-17658087

[mellow oracle]

I also got stuck on the moon, ship didn't leave after pulling lever

[astral belfry]

its general improvements

[spring torrent]

space pharoah's curse

[forest root]

Is it possible to disable whatever is going on there in GI?

[astral belfry]

Maybe

Maybe not

Kay just said it was general improvements

[queen mesa]

Batby said it would be looked into

[vale violet]

hey guys - please dont DM me regarding conversions from LE to LLL the process isnt fully ready

there will be guides provided by batby when its prepared

in fact please dont DM me unless you have a very specific question regarding egypt - even so i’d rather keep questions here

this is my personal and business Discord account I have industry on here so I’d like to keep my DMs clean and I don’t want to have to turn my DMs off

[forest root]

KayNetsua regarding conversion from LE to LLL ^. NO DMs

[rustic sierra]

don’t ping admins for that though

[forest root]

wait

[humble spruce]

moderators can pin messages as well, just sayin

[leaden condor]

i'll kill you

[forest root]

Gotchu, apologies

[forest root]

sorry

[modest stirrup]

this mod broke me and my friends games lol. idk why.. we ended up removing it and we were fixed

is there any mods egypt is incompatible with?

[vale violet]

define broke

[forest root]

do you have lethalLevelLoader, LethalExpansion and LethalExpansionCore?

[modest stirrup]

we were lagging so bad two people crashed & we couldnt pick up or drop stuff

[modest stirrup]

yep

most the mods i use require those, so

[vale violet]

oh thanks for the pin :)

[vale violet]

that sounds like older version behavior are you sure you were on the newest one?

[modest stirrup]

it was a few days ago, if its been fixed by now then dw about it, but we were playing whatever latest version it was on i think tuesday?

it was either monday or tuesday

i just hadnt had time to message abt it so wanted to send a message once i saw this channel in the discord

[vale violet]

hmm

that definitely sounds like a mod you have is conflicting with LLL in some way - the only known one is GeneralImprovements preventing users from leaving the moon

[forest root]

Is there a way to disable that in GI config?

[vale violet]

its impossible to know all compatibilities when people have modlists of 100+ mods these days

not sure, youd have to ask that developer

[forest root]

Alright I will

[vale violet]

i hear theyre very responsive

im not even sure what is causing the issue

[queen mesa]

They are. Batby said they were also gonna look into it at some point as well

[vale violet]

but batby mentioned they were going to look into it - but im not familiar with what GI even changes, if theres some sort of change even as small as how the player controller interacts with the ship it might break things

iirc LLL tries to deal with things directly related to the vanilla scripts so if a mod fucks with those it can break stuff

thats just me speculating

[oblique chasm]

Had the same problem loading a seed. Playing alone worked more than fine

I tried on Sunday I think

I wanted this to work because I use some new interior that have problems with LethalExpansion. In the future I'll try again and give some update.

[vale violet]

small push

fixes some colliders, audio, etc

fixed water triggers

[stoic violet]

I found a trello on the mod's wiki here: https://trello.com/b/UMBL8xqi/the-lost-civilization-project

seems like it's private though.

anyone know if thats intentional?

[vale violet]

[astral belfry]

hmm

this is weird

because atlas abyss uses LLL

and I just left atlas abyss

[charred siren]

Oh and it worked fine?

[astral belfry]

yea

egypt still doesnt

[vale violet]

thats odd

but yeah new patch wouldnt have addressed it

[short hamlet]

Im sure this has been asked plenty of times before, but i dont think you can search in specific threads 😦

What is the internal name of the Egypt moon? I want to apply a custom layout while yours is in development 😄

[shut barn]

"Egypt" is internal name

[sturdy crane]

EgyptSelectableLevel

[short hamlet]

I will try both of those, thanks 🙂

[shut barn]

this i how i have it in my more interiors mod

[charred siren]

no

any of the above options will work though

[sturdy crane]

hmmm ok

where is the internal name stored?

[charred siren]

in the planets selectablelevel

with LLL the check is very lenient

[sturdy crane]

i see

[charred siren]

idk what mod started the whole "internal level names are [Name]Level and/or [Name]SelectableLevel" thing but its not true haha

[shut barn]

ye wondered where that started

[sturdy crane]

idk either, but some of the first modded moons to come out had their planet name as some random words

[charred siren]

wym

[sturdy crane]

i think two of the moons that lethal expansion added had the same planet name, but different object names

i suppose properly created moons have unique PlanetNames now

the only thing that i might be worried about is if they have special characters or something

[forest root]

It’s for sure either Scoopy’s mod or SCPFoundationDungeon that started that

Ill check it in a bit

[stoic violet]

Did you get this working? I've been trying to get scoopy's spawn on egypt as well and haven't been able to get it working

Nevermind, just had to capitalize the E in Egypt

[empty thicket]

I have trouble loading this moon with 6+ people. next i use it ill try to get the logs

[stoic violet]

GeneralImprovements dev confirms the incompatibility will be fixed in the next release

[queen mesa]

🙏

Blessed be

[spare rose]

Testing out this moon and I pretty much immediately got softlocked by falling into the hole almost directly right of the front of where the ship lands

this hole specifically

it's to the front left of the first light you run into after leaving the ship

[thick wraith]

yeah i think i got stuck in that one too, just had to alt f4

[vale violet]

should be fixed next patch

[spare rose]

Another thing is that the lights might not be close enough/there might not be enough of them/there might need to be a rope connecting them, if the weather is duststorm it becomes very very difficult to navigate to the door if you're not familiar with the map, since you can't see the next light leading to the door even if you're standing right next to the previous one

compare to like Rend or Dine (forgot which it was, maybe both) where there are guide lights that lead to the door and there's a rope between them, and the lights are visible between each other even in inclement weather

[vale violet]

yeah i havent figured out how the ropes work

thats planned though

just not high priority atm

[spare rose]

Gotcha, just wanted to point it out since it's a beginner moon so I figure there should be some level of forgiveness for that

[vale violet]

dustclouds shouldnt be an available weather type by default though

so tbh i shouldnt be designing for modded-in weather types anyway

[spare rose]

Is that not a vanilla weather type? Do you know what adds it?

[vale violet]

moons have weathers enabled by default per moon

and i dont have DustClouds available to be chosen

the selection of weather is Mild (none), Rainy, Stormy, Foggy, DustClouds, Flooded and Eclipsed

and DustClouds is afaik not even used on vanilla moons

[spare rose]

These are what I most recently installed so it's probably from one of these, sorry to bother in that case

[vale violet]

im not sure - but if you see DustClouds as weather type its not added by Egypt

Egypt does have decently thick fog, but its not as strong as Dine Rend or Titan

• sunset lighting

[spare rose]

strictly speaking I'm not even sure if it was dustclouds but the visibility was very low and it didn't correspond to any other weather I've seen

So after taking a look I believe it was foggy, I got confused since the fog looks rather yellowish on this map

so my feedback above still applies, just for foggy I guess

(I also fell down another hole that probably should be instakilling me, I assume this is also fixed?)

[vale violet]

OH

woops

thats a silly mistake by me

forgot to set the box collider to a trigger

[spare rose]

When do you think you’ll be pushing out this update? Planning on playing with friends in like two hours or so and wondering if I should just disable the mod until this is fixed. No rush, if it’s not ready it’s all good

[vale violet]

pushing now

[spare rose]

Great, thanks!

[vale violet]

we have quicksand rendering on terrain

[empty thicket]

Will it be at all possible to try and enhance performance? This specific moon causes some connection issues when loading up with 6+ users. its dropped a few people who couldn't handle the load
sadly dont have any logs to prove it

[vale violet]

Uh, I need a bit more information than that - performance is a term related to stuff like a clients framerate, response time, etc

but if they're not loading in that's a whole different issue, and I'd need logs to see what's going on

else I've got nothing to work on

For all I know, there could be a mod that you have that's incompatible with LLL

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[empty thicket]

I can give you more information the next time i host lethal company and try the moon

We think it could be due to users tabbing out of Lethal Company, that seems to be a large factor to the client dropping

[spare rose]

Any idea why loading the map can take such a long time? It takes 30+ seconds easily for it to finish loading, showing the seed the entire time.

[vale violet]

depends on hardware - but its due to how many mesh colliders are present in the scene

im trying to cut them down as much as i can

or more likely its due to the high resolution of the mesh collider for the terrain

theres a strong chance in the future i will lower the heightmap resolution of the terrain

[stoic violet]

Not too much technical detail to add, but I notice this moon lags more than any other moon I've tested for me (not too terribly)

The lag is basically absent when looking mostly down

[vale violet]

yeah, likely due to the terrain res being too high

[spare rose]

From a first-timer's perspective (playing with some friends) fog is just not good right now, it's completely impossible to navigate to the entrance when the map is foggy during our first two rounds with it and we have no bearings whatsoever. At nighttime it becomes literally pitch black since there's pretty much no natural light at this point, which doesn't help matters

[vale violet]

yeah it sucks we cant figure out how zeeks did their fog settings because HDRP scripts break on assetrip

ive been wondering if they have two different fogs for day/night

[spare rose]

in any case I do hope you figure out that rope stuff and double check the light placement and all that like I left feedback for earlier because that'd definitely help with getting from the ship to the entrance in those conditions

[vale violet]

the rope stuff i found is just a bezier curve with an animator

which... i could do

bezier curves are a nightmare to deal with though

so ill put that on low prio compared to fixing visibility and lowering terrain res

[spare rose]

fair yeah

maybe a collision bug here

thank you discord for not embedding the mkv

try this

[vale violet]

oh yeah thats a left over

forgot to move that rock

[spare rose]

Is it possible to lower the occurances of fogginess? Not sure if we're getting unlucky but three out of four times it's been foggy, one time eclipsed

[vale violet]

thats just bad rng

[spare rose]

rip

alright well thanks for the help lol

[vale violet]

though itd be nice if we had weights for weather, i dont think thats part of how the game works

[spare rose]

Gotcha, I don't have any experience with that so I'm just spitballing

[vale violet]

testing lower terrain res & updated fog atm

[spare rose]

item pod appears to either not spawn near enough to the ship to be heard or just doesn't spawn at all, ordered some stuff in orbit and never heard it come down

I have a clip if needed

I did end up getting the notification about it leaving without being opened

[vale violet]

ah, the music broke

pog

just tested it myself

[spare rose]

Does that include the touchdown booster sound?

Because I didn't hear anything at all

[vale violet]

the fire and the thump was audible

but no music

[spare rose]

I didn't hear that on my end, I'll upload a clip momentarily

Uploading now, it's a big one so gonna be a sec

bug with the lake area that presumably already had water in it, while the weather is flooded

[vale violet]

the double water thing i actually dont know how to address

@charred siren any ideas?

[vale violet]

yeah thats odd - it should be audible from the ship for sure

the drop point is right there

but the music will be fixed next update

[astral belfry]

general improvements

idk if any of these were the reason

but the creator said the next update would fix incompatibility with egypt

and this is said update

[queen mesa]

DUB

turning that shit back on

fuck it was literally just uplaoded

imma test that this the moment it hits r2modman

[astral belfry]

yay update hit r2modman

[queen mesa]

testing now

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

it works :)

[astral belfry]

yep it sure does work

[empty thicket]

Still has major performance issues after the initial launch, even as a solo

[charred siren]

Yeah performance issues will hopefully be solved soonish. Egypt is a very intensive map and the trick we used previously is harder to implement as of right now

[marsh grove]

The moon loads quickly for the first landing, but subsequent landings have a huge freeze period.

My first landing was a modded interior, second and third were vanilla, so I don't think it's a problem with interiors. This is a clip of my second landing showing the freeze, me messing around with items, and then going into a vanilla dungeon

Here's my full log for the session

[empty thicket]

Valafi is better at being thorough on the reports

I just throw shit in the pack, he suffers

[charred siren]

Yeah to an extent its kind of a Unity issue? It’s very inconsistent

Very much heard though

[marsh grove]

gotcha, I'm just hoping that providing as much info as possible will help pinpoint the problem

[empty thicket]

(No, the terminal autofill does not cause us any noticable issues with the logs shitting themselves)

[robust trout]

Hey guys,
I have weird mod conflict that I'm facing in my mod with this mod. I'm working on a mod that allows the player to buy laser pointer (to do some cool stuff). When the player comes to the dropship and he try to open the delivery - nothing happen (and error is occurring):

@vale violet

Mod: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Anubis/LaserControl/ (Developing still on progress)
Laser pointer channel: https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1192080227241840640