Lethal Emotes API

[grizzled lava]

Curious

I'll make sure to fix that before the real update comes out

[crystal nimbus]

For example, the "Butt" emote from the "BadAss" mod

[red needle]

it is because of the contraints for the skeleton, there is a minimum overhead cost to doing complex emotes like this

[narrow geyser]

There were some pretty big logic changes that were done to help performance, so it's expected that we miss a few things.

That's why it isn't released yet

[crystal nimbus]

It’s okay, I’ll try to look at a lot more between our guys and notice the problems

We won't upload to Thunder or anything else.

We will simply create an archive and install it manually

And there it will already be clear what is missing, and so on.

But the work is already great, I'm really happy

I have a problem...

After emotions, I can’t log into the terminal

Even canceling the emotion doesn't help.

[grizzled lava]

will add that to the to-do

[crystal nimbus]

I can interact with the rest

no with terminal

Taking off and flying back to the planet doesn't help.

[narrow geyser]

Probably something broken with a patch we have

We've got a patch to disable emotes when entering the terminal

I guess it's something to do with that

But I'll have to check later when I can

[crystal nimbus]

Re-entering the save game doesn't help either.

I've seen this error somewhere before

When moving away from the screen, he used

[crystal nimbus]

When I left the screen, I again can’t interact with it

[grizzled lava]

uhhh, not seeing the terminal bug you got, could be a mod conflict or something

or something I fixed on my end already, not sure

[crystal nimbus]

I could post my build

But I'm not sure that you can find a mod that somehow conflicts

But there are options, everything related to TerminalApi

And in general with the terminal

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Just a guess, nothing more

[grizzled lava]

testing with the most recent DLL being added to your modpack code, wasn't having the terminal issue on my end, also fixed the issue with animations not ending from earlier

pushing out 1.5.1 to thunderstore

[crystal nimbus]

It's a pity

[grizzled lava]

no I think that's a good thing

[crystal nimbus]

Then I'll do without dancing for now 😭

[grizzled lava]

unless it still happens for you

[crystal nimbus]

oh, my translator translated it wrong

So I'll take a look

[grizzled lava]

yeah I would suggest testing with 1.5.1 once it propigates

if it still breaks lemme know

[crystal nimbus]

Okay 👌

I can guess which mods might break it

because I know them by heart

I will then test each of them separately

Maybe I'll find an incompatibility

Once I checked each mod out of 140 separately, found 7 unstable mods and 3 of which greatly reduced performance

[grizzled lava]

@ whoever is making the JKR emotes couldn't load an asset, + you should probably rename the assetbundles to anything else, such as jkr_animation and jkr_audio as to not conflict with other mods

[grizzled lava]

oh uhh

also

you didn't mark stuff as dmca safe/unsafe properly

(also you don't have to mark your package as deprecated and upload a new one, unless you needed to change some specific stuff with the core manifest package)

👀

[vagrant sapphire]

Hi, it's me. First of all, thank you for making the API. Secondly, I will do that tomorrow. I've been working on making the mod for four days in a row (currently playing Persona 3 Reload), but I'll fix it. Thirdly, I wanted to change the name of my mod, and sadly, I created another mod. I wouldn't be able to sleep with that in mind.

[grizzled lava]

totally fair, just making sure as I've seen a couple other folks before not realize they can update

but yeah if it was a new name then it be like that

https://tenor.com/view/gloop-gif-25555044

[vagrant sapphire]

Cool, I'll fix what you told me tomorrow. I still have some issues to sort out on my end, though. For some reason, the first time an audio plays for any of my emotes, there's a one-second delay, and they freeze sometimes mid-play, but only the first time playing them

[narrow geyser]

sounds like a you need to change the import settings for your audio clips

[narrow geyser]

specifically

these are our recommended import settings

[red needle]

I feel that, we all went on hiatus for a week or 2 after it came out to binge through it, I'm still trying to finish it up myself lmao

[narrow geyser]

I went on hiatus a week earlier to finish LAD: IW and then went right into P3R

[vagrant sapphire]

Hmm, that's strange. They were unchecked (they were when I assetbundled them). Okay, I'll fix that too

[narrow geyser]

make sure Load Type is set to Compressed In Memory

[vagrant sapphire]

Yeah, I was hoping I didn't forget anything so I could start my gameplay today, but I'll fix everything first tomorrow

[narrow geyser]

otherwise you may find yourself with inflated RAM usage

[vagrant sapphire]

I will, I must have missed that in the tutorial while I was speedrunning. Sorry about that

[crystal nimbus]

The problem with the terminal remains @grizzled lava

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[grizzled lava]

Can you also send a log file? I have a feeling it might be something specific

I'll take a look when I get off work

[narrow geyser]

Hmmm

[narrow geyser]

What language do you play lethal company in?

[crystal nimbus]

en

I'll check it a little later and send you a full report.

With magazine and video+logs

[narrow geyser]

Alright, was just curious, thought that maybe it could be a locale issue or something

[crystal nimbus]

I gave up Russian a long time ago, I had problems with it before

But now everything is fine

The problem here is something else

And to find out, I have to disable 160 mods one by one

Which is very difficult for me...

But I'll try to find out the reason

[narrow geyser]

I'll try to test for the issue myself, but send the log whenever you get the chance

[crystal nimbus]

I used to vacuum up mods like this and found 6 unstable ones

[crystal nimbus]

I have a problem with this

I use mods to hide console mod errors

I turn them off when there are problems

To check with your own example

excuse me for this...

But for such a large assembly, sometimes intervention is required

People accidentally touch the console and their game breaks

and if there is no console, everything is fine ^^

[crystal nimbus]

@grizzled lava

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kbLlDH1w6-huWWCwqxeHUkQcdeIvyxtD
Video report from the console

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This is the first test, with an error and stuff

You can watch (numbering, sequence of replays)

Now I will disable each mod and their libraries and look at the behavior

If I see something, I'll let you know

There is progress

I found the problem right away

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kbLlDH1w6-huWWCwqxeHUkQcdeIvyxtD
I disabled this kernel and all the mods associated with it, the console at least started to work and did not freeze, as in previous videos 1-3.
In video report number 4, you can see that sometimes when spamming emotions or something like that, the console screen moves away slightly, but still works.
When updating the lobby on video number 6, after numerous spams of emotions, the console works stably - there was no distance, which is very strange (perhaps the error is random and is also corrected when the ship flies back into orbit, but this is not certain) @grizzled lava

Therefore, I think the issue needs to be resolved with LLL, and only then further testing the main

I hope this somehow helps in solving the problem 🥺 @grizzled lava

[narrow geyser]

he's at work atm, so he may not be able to respond right now

but we'll take a look as soon as we get the chance

thanks for looking into it

[crystal nimbus]

I checked without this mod...

But I don't think much would change there.

[vagrant sapphire]

So, hopefully, I just fixed what was remaining. I'll be off sometime, but I wanted to ask if there are plans for more parameters on the API, like animation speed or input for loop points in music. Anyway, that's all. Thanks

[grizzled lava]

Loop points in music: not exactly, but you can feed in primary and secondary audio since that probably covers your use case? Primary audio gets played once, then the secondary audio loops forever

Animation speed: we found in the past in a couple niche cases, the animation speed needed to change dynamically, so instead of being a parameter for emotes, when your emote plays you can call (I can't remember the syntax properly but I'll look it up) bonemapper.setanimationspeed(1f) where 1 is normal speed

https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/wiki/Documentation#bonemappersetanimationspeed

SetAnimationSpeed

[grizzled lava]

yeah so, seems like something TF2Emotes is just not present, gonna see about a workaround from my end

without tf2 emotes, the terminal works fine, but I'll get a fix out

ah, yeah I think it's similar to the issue emotesapi had before, where there is something breaking in the NetworkManagerStart and I am going late so it broke my stuff by proxy

[crystal nimbus]

I never would have thought of it

What does LLL have to do with it then?

[grizzled lava]

possibly nothing, if they are "in the car crash" as you will (I know it's a poor analogy) they might not be the cause, but they also show up

for reference, this is the "car crash"

as you can see it still shows tf2 emotes and emotes api

however, as you can see, at least for tf2 emotes

it's basically impossible for tf2emotes to cause any issue, but it still hooks into that function so it shows up

my fix worked for tf2 though, so I'm gonna push that out

1.0.5 should fix it whenever that propigates

#thunderstore-releases message

[crystal nimbus]

Wow

By the way, is it convenient for you to work via video + console?

:3

I’ve been using this for a week, it’s a convenient theme

[grizzled lava]

this time? nah cause I was able to reproduce the bug easily, but honestly it's nice to have the video as an option, since that guaruntees the repro steps are laid out correctly, so I wouldn't stop the additional videos even if they aren't always needed

I wish I could convince people at my job to use videos in addition to repro steps >_>

[red needle]

so, sorry I never followed up on this, we were busy

The camera alignment issue is actually not an alignment issue as during emotes players are capable of looking up or down whenever they want so the only real alignment that can be done is for a vertical slice as shown by example in this photo

if we were to hard lock the camera to not allow any player control which would feel really un-natural and bad (we tested early on in development) then you would see exactly what is in the square.

Due to the nature of the "roll on X" being un-locked you must make some assumptions about the angle at which the player is looking vertically with your emotes.

[hazy dew]

Holly shit, it’s skibidi snake toilet

[deep inlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1111525952627933194/1203630945337344010/guyest_2.gif

[deep inlet]

ah, oky doki

[faint bane]

.

[narrow geyser]

.

[grizzled lava]

I feel this conversation on an emotional level

[faint bane]

discord wouldnt follow the thread i had to put a period so i could

cause i was gonna ask which script on your emotes api github actually does the emoting

[grizzled lava]

Are you looking for the part that performs the animations on the emote skeleton, or the part that copies the original bone locations to the emote skeleton's locations?

https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/blob/50754f7c44e9a04f482feb58fe81d051233f1361/CustomEmotesAPI/Core/BoneMapper.cs#L315

For playing the animations on the emote skeleton

https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/blob/main/CustomEmotesAPI/Core/EmoteConstraint.cs for moving the base skeleton transforms

if you're looking for the part that plays animations on the original animator

uhhh

we don't

[red needle]

Latelate update rigmapping my beloved

[faint bane]

it was a mix of both, but this is the one i was looking for, thanks

[faint bane]

could i ask how you managed to pull the player model with proper rigging? i tried to do it with the first person arms and it didnt come out too well

[narrow geyser]

Excluding the cleanup that @red needle did, we used AssetRipper and then exported the model + rig from unity using a GLTF exporter

[faint bane]

did the rig come out cleanly with the model or did you have to go through and manually make sure stuff lined up

and also which version of asset ripper, recently it got worse

[narrow geyser]

I used the latest version

[faint bane]

really?

[narrow geyser]

yeah the weird web ui one

[faint bane]

i can barely stand it

thanks for the help btw

[narrow geyser]

@red needle should be able to provide more info here in a few minutes

[red needle]

oh yeah

I did like tons of custom rig work, it was just the skeleton and weights when we got out

I made the IK myself as well

[faint bane]

oh, damn

good work

100% thought it was just fully ripped from the game

[red needle]

I may suck ass at even basic scripting but let me use blender and I'll cook a little

[faint bane]

lmao

i think i cooked?

idk if this is right

[red needle]

gigachad GLTF export user

[faint bane]

why are my bones not look like bones

[red needle]

change the bone model

uhh

lemme make quick clip

[faint bane]

under the gltf_not_exported?

yep

fix it, thank you though

[red needle]

yeah there

[faint bane]

fuck yeah holy shit this is perfect

[grizzled lava]

gltf masterrace

[faint bane]

thanks for all your help

[red needle]

fuck fbx, all my homies hate fbx

[faint bane]

one last question tho, you know any good tutorials for making IK

[red needle]

so

here is the neat part

[faint bane]

is it built in blender?

[red needle]

unless you are doing like tons of animation, blender has auto IK

for basic stuff

there is no IK poling so its a little jank but

granted, you will most likely need to do a smidge of touchup on your gltf skeleton export

[grizzled lava]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-its-as-simple-as-that-its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-gif-25871128

[red needle]

to make sure that the joints are connected

[red needle]

https://tenor.com/view/benefishial-beneficial-shrimple-grouper-clamplicated-gif-26440220

[faint bane]

tbh i dont think i need to do any

oh joints connected

maybe

ye

[red needle]

depending on what your gltf export and import settings are, some settings make none of the joints stay connected which is just as simple as clicking on each bone that needs to be connected and hitting "connected"

I had to do that with some of our gltf exports for various version of our rig

[faint bane]

i think they are connected

but

bcz hand moves with arm

but the lines dont line up, so im not too sure they do

[red needle]

they should be fine to hit connected, if you hit connected and something moves noticably when you hit it there is a problem

otherwise just hit crtl z

[faint bane]

yee connected fixed it

[red needle]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-gif-25512686

[faint bane]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

i should make funny first person animations no one else can see

[grizzled lava]

[narrow geyser]

make them randomly play so people think they're insane

[red needle]

from there auto IK should be good enough

also hitting "R + Z + Z" with all finger bones bar the thumb selected should give you a fairly natural automatic hand close

[faint bane]

i need a nice fireball holding animation

and a reference to how it'd look in game

that's the hardest

game rest position vs blender rest position

[narrow geyser]

so, if you include the unity camera when you do the gltf export

the camera will be included in blender

[red needle]

game rest position is still listening to zeekerss runtime IK

[narrow geyser]

in the correct spot

[faint bane]

would it be smart to just include the entire player rig you think?

[red needle]

it wouldn't hurt, you can always delete what you don't want from the blender scene

[narrow geyser]

it probably wouldn't hurt anything

[faint bane]

do the arms actually use IK? with zeekerrs i feel like he'd hand animate the arms moving up

[red needle]

ingame feet and hands use runtime IK that zeekerss animated in unity with

oh yeah

here is a real ik tutorial if you want to do more than basics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt3-mHBCoQk

[faint bane]

alright give me a second to re-do this whole thing so i can have a good way to animate in blender with

again thanks for all the help lol, im not good at modelling(yet)

[red needle]

no prob

[red needle]

oh yeah the one thing you shouldn't follow in this tutorial is the "delete 1 half of bones and mirror" step which is the first one

[grizzled lava]

I literally can only use blender properly because of @red needle's rig lol

[faint bane]

lmao

[grizzled lava]

ehh I can use blender

but animation properly

[faint bane]

i can barely use blender tbh

im just too used to unitys navigation

[red needle]

yeah you made that bitching puddi puddi model

[grizzled lava]

don't remind me

or do, it's funny

[faint bane]

what's the key to delete an object and every child it has? delete by itself just sends the children to the top of the hierarchy

probably googleable but i have no idea how i'd word that without getting put on a list

[red needle]

just rightclick and hit "delete hierarchy"

i

if you want to bind a key to that you can rightclick the rightclick menu button and assign a key to it

[faint bane]

i see why you had to do some cleanup

[grizzled lava]

wym that looks exactly like our rig?

[faint bane]

he's got that one fracture

its a compound fracture i think

[red needle]

needless to say I had setup a few hotkeys to do cursor bone snapping lmao

[faint bane]

lmao

im just gonna Pose mode -> press A -> bone connected

[faint bane]

you think i could just ignore the main player model and just focus on the arms?

[red needle]

yeah you could but only the user would see their animations

how emotesAPI handles it is it just forces the first person arms to follow the full 3rd person model

so first person animations match exactly what other players see

or what you yourself would see if 3rd person was enabled

[grizzled lava]

the main "downside" to that is that your hands aren't always in front of your camera, if you want that to be a thing

[faint bane]

that's what i want

that's why im going through the problem of extracting the first person view model

[red needle]

yeah there should be no issue with that method

[faint bane]

i could definitely just animate the arms and plop them onto the main player and it'd work

[red needle]

however instead of screwing with the base games animator with animation overrides or whatver that nonsense is you can make your own "animation injection skeleton" for just the first person arms. This will keep broad animation compatibility with all other mods while saving you the pain of screwing with the base animator

i don't know your exact plan for executing the animations

[faint bane]

oh yeah that's what i was gonna do

[red needle]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[faint bane]

i was going to flat copy your guys' method(with credit)

[red needle]

credit is cringe stealing is based, pirate our code

[faint bane]

for the most part lmao, all i need is the arms to change since it's not full body animation

you will receive credit

i fucked up the order dammit

[red needle]

yeah thats fair, I'm excited to see what you end up making with all this

[faint bane]

hang on let me see if i can pull up the prefab rq

i need to make it a bit more emissive but im cooking

the player will hold a spell ball and when its cast they'll throw or do some kind of arm movement(to be determined) and itll spawn from their hand and go off

hm.

[azure plaza]

spammy

[grizzled lava]

just close your eyes

spam can't hurt you if you can't see it, it's not allowed to

I'll push out a fix in a couple minutes

[azure plaza]

woo hoo

you're amazing

[grizzled lava]

Well fix is ready, having to adjust some other stuff though but ya know

give or take 30 minutes to an hour

[azure plaza]

no need to rush

[velvet monolith]

Is it possible to have the emote wheel saved to the player data instead of the configs? Importing a new code overrides all the wheels it seems.

[narrow geyser]

We're looking into a solution for that

no ETA right now, but soon-ish

[narrow geyser]

I just finished implementing a similar thing for InputUtils, so I have a good idea on how to solve our problem here

[grizzled lava]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181970836693991556/1218801478941282304/Lethal_Company_ZwzXaC5U6Z.mp4?ex=6608fc54&is=65f68754&hm=76637cea02fb3907835e848454233c541b666831fb0d593ec5c98a0ed892cb3b&

prob releasing this sometime tomorrow if I don't suck

for reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkkS3kJAG7g

[grizzled lava]

Is out now, should work with custom models/VRM stuff, but lemme know if it doesn't cause it's doing some funky stuff

[faint bane]

hello, its me again, unrelated to the arms of the player, if i want to rip just the rig of something and have the bones still be bones and not just objects, is the process the same or is there something special i need to do

i tried with the bracken bones and it was just the empty indicator

[grizzled lava]

uhhh, hypothetically the process should be the same. Technically I ripped all the enemies with the old fbx method

[faint bane]

i figured it out

for some reason the gltb plugin likes to just spit out only a bin

bin is when i tried to do the whole hierarchy, animcontainer worked, only after i deleted everything in it

[grizzled lava]

Yeah, the exporter itself seems a bit wonky

But at least it works

[narrow geyser]

could you send a modpack code?

[unreal aurora]

no code sorry 😦

[narrow geyser]

creating a fresh profile doesn't give me any errors

not sure what's causing that for you

gonna need more details than a screenshot

could you send a log

[unreal aurora]

sure where do i grab the log?

[narrow geyser]

in the BepInEx folder

there should be a LogOutput.log

[narrow geyser]

ahh shoot

I know what went wrong

[unreal aurora]

yeah?? lol

glad you already know lol

[narrow geyser]

should have a fix out here soon

[narrow geyser]

got it, should be on the thunderstore soon

[faint bane]

im trying to understand your code, not making it easy X)

just trying to figure out how you actually assign emote constraints via the bonemapper, if its even done there

[narrow geyser]

the nonsensical variable names are all @grizzled lava s doing

don't quote me on this, but I think we set them up in Unity and package the prefab into an assetbundle?

https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/blob/048426361733fa4e7707c92bbe3974dcd72b4d8d/CustomEmotesAPI/CustomEmotesAPI.cs#L140

yeah that's what it seems like we do

also here seems important https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/blob/048426361733fa4e7707c92bbe3974dcd72b4d8d/CustomEmotesAPI/Core/AnimationReplacements.cs#L18

[grizzled lava]

I can get more info when I get out of my meeting, but it boils down to having the emote skeleton have the exact same bone names, and then matching them

[faint bane]

gotcha

what i did see is you get the root bone of the main guy(i assume) and spawn the emote skeletons root there

but im not sure how you're connecting the rest of the bones in code

[grizzled lava]

Ok so yeah, there is a bit of mess around, but it ultimately boils down to https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/blob/048426361733fa4e7707c92bbe3974dcd72b4d8d/CustomEmotesAPI/Core/BoneMapper.cs#L582

where it effectively loops through the base SkinnedMeshRenderers and checks their bones to the emoteSkeleton's SkinnedMeshRenderer and if the bone names match, it creates the emote constraint

there is a bit of extra code thrown in there to help it "guess" and be a little more optimized for standard models that don't move stuff around, but it really boils down to

foreach baseBone in BaseSMR
  foreach emoteBone in EmoteSMR
    if baseBone.name == emoteBone.name
      attach an emote constraint to baseBone with a source bone of emoteBone

[faint bane]

gotcha

i couldnt find the loop for some reason

[azure plaza]

Hello, could you people add a config to toggle certain enemies on and off for the EnemyInteractions mod?

[grizzled lava]

I mean, technically possible, if I might ask for any particular reason?

[azure plaza]

so only the masked emote

[grizzled lava]

I c

[azure plaza]

there is TooManyEmotes but I dont want to have to download 200+ emotes for that

anyway its just a suggestion

[grizzled lava]

shouldn't be that hard to get around too, I might get to it tonight or tomorrow

[narrow geyser]

it's not an unreasonable ask tbh

[azure plaza]

well if it happens, thanks in advance!

[whole vault]

Thank you for making this mod! I would like to ask if it were possible to add a config option to only emote while standing still? Some mods have done that individually, but I'd love to have it as a general option because I love the emotes, just not when running around inside the dungeons

[faint bane]

you are seriously a goober nunchuk lmao

[narrow geyser]

https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/issues/94

it's been requested a few times

tldr: we may eventually add an option for this client-side only

it's on the backlog of features right now

a host deciding option will probably never be made by us, however if someone else were to implement the feature, we won't stop them

[grizzled lava]

Hey at least that is purely a debug command

[storm wren]

im trying to follow the example project but the importanimation function doesnt want to accept anything

for some reason if i remove the [] around the first argument (even though thats definately not correct) the error just becomes

removing the brackets around both gives this

[grizzled lava]

Well, those are using the example helper functions I made which are in that same file, I suggest looking at them and even editing them to suit your needs better

[storm wren]

i tried that but the unedited ones give the same errors

[grizzled lava]

(sorry I'm not home at the moment so I can't do a deeper dive)

Try copying the code from one of the functions then and adjust that with what you have

Like copy the body of the function and paste/use that instead of the function itself

If that still throws errors then lemme know

[narrow geyser]

well, if you understand C# it may be better to look at how the helper function works

https://github.com/Wet-Boys/ExampleLethalCompanyEmoteMod/blob/29b14a001bdae09e084897e815d57ae4816a1e4b/Lethal Company CustomEmotesAPI Template Mod/ExampleEmoteMod.cs#L81

it creates an EmoteParams instance

that it passes to the importer

not all of the fields are required

[storm wren]

it still shows errors

[narrow geyser]

hmmm

do you have dotnet 8.0 installed?

the SDK

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/8.0

the [....(something)...] syntax is a C# language version 12 feature

which only exists in dotnet 8.0 and up

[storm wren]

yeah incorrect version is what i thought might be the problem but i didnt know which version the api was on or which i have

[narrow geyser]

you're on windows I assume?

[storm wren]

yes

[narrow geyser]

could you open a command prompt (windows 10) or windows terminal (windows 11)

and type dotnet --list-sdks and press enter

[storm wren]

i just installed 8

[narrow geyser]

ah

[storm wren]

so yeah looks like that was the problem

[narrow geyser]

hopefully re-opening visual studio should fix it

[storm wren]

sadly no

[narrow geyser]

💀

[eager cradle]

You need to set LangVersion to latest

in csproj

[narrow geyser]

if they copied from the template project

it should already be set to preview

which would support it

I assume Visual Studio is still using the previous Sdk

not sure how to tell visual studio to use a different dotnet sdk

you might need to look it up

[whole vault]

Alright thanks for the answer :)

[narrow geyser]

sorry if it's not the answer you wanted, it's just that none of us on the dev team want to implement the feature in which the host decides. once again the mod is open-source and we have no issues with anyone who wants to implement this feature, either as an addon mod or a PR

[whole vault]

I'm totally fine with it being a backlog priority for client-only. And there's a few mods that fit my criteria right now as well

[storm wren]

so deleted the old sdk to force the new one to be use, had to install visual studio 2022 because 2019 doesnt support version 8 and now it works

thank you

[narrow geyser]

np, glad you got it working

[grizzled lava]

I should probably add a note in the example repo mentioning that, I kinda overlooked that aspect when setting stuff up

Glad you got it worked out though

[half atlas]

Can someone help me with badass emotes not working with certain custom player models?

[torn terrace]

Hello, @half atlas, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[narrow geyser]

bad @torn terrace

[narrow geyser]

you're in the right place

[half atlas]

Oh good

018e77c5-4215-3709-5052-8fe1c9e9d6ca

My modpack code

I'm trying to get this model mod to work with it

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ScottyFoxArt/CompanyIssuedProtogen/

It just refuses to load this model whenever I have the emote api enabled

I'll send the error log

[narrow geyser]

alright, I'm taking a look right now

[half atlas]

Huh, strange. Even with emotes API disabled, the mod still refuses to load. I know another friends pack that has the Protogen model mod and it loads just fine, so I'm very confused

Disabling emotes API fixed the model last time I tested a few weeks back but now it doesn't work anymore

[narrow geyser]

weird, creating a profile using that code gave me no errors...

[half atlas]

Whaa

Could you see the proto in game?

[narrow geyser]

couldn't find it?

[half atlas]

The errors seem to appear after you open a lobby then return to the main menu

[narrow geyser]

not sure how to equip it

[half atlas]

It's on by default

It replaces the default player model

It's not a suit

[narrow geyser]

let me load again

[half atlas]

There's a mirror you can purchase from the terminal to see if you got it on too

[narrow geyser]

I see

it didn't replace the default suit

[half atlas]

Yeah, it's just not working at all for some reason

Does the Proto mod rely on model API? Maybe that's messing with it since it isn't integrated

[narrow geyser]

doesn't seem like it

seems like they are doing their own custom thing

[half atlas]

Try disabling model API

[narrow geyser]

of replacing every player with their model

[grizzled lava]

this model doesn't work in third person, that's kinda weird I think the GameObject's layer isn't set correctly. But with a more minimal testing setup it works "ok enough"

I don't have modelreplacementapi

[half atlas]

Oh, so it's working now?

[grizzled lava]

well again, this is with a minimal setup

[half atlas]

Oh okie

[narrow geyser]

like 4 mods

[grizzled lava]

yeah emotes, the skin, and some debug tools

nothing else

[half atlas]

At least we know the emotes aren't the issue

The model is just wonky

[grizzled lava]

well

it's implemented super destructively

it seems like it just overwrites stuff

not adding its own model

[half atlas]

Oh gosh

Wish someone could make a fork of it that was less destructive

[grizzled lava]

but it does work technically

realistically

[half atlas]

I love the custom facial animations

[narrow geyser]

well, it's closed source, so without permission, they'd have to make it from scratch

[half atlas]

Awww, unfortunate

[grizzled lava]

it was created (and last updated) mid December, which was before a lot of standards got popular

[half atlas]

Bad timing

[grizzled lava]

most things were still a free for all then

[half atlas]

Seems the creator is inactive everywhere too

[narrow geyser]

yeah, it's a conflict with modelAPI

tested it with the full pack

[half atlas]

Had a feeling

I suppose I'll just disable model API in the meantime

[narrow geyser]

mind you, you won't see the model in third-person

[half atlas]

Also might switch emote API to force first person

But gosh the camera movement on some of the emotes gives me motion sickness

XD

[grizzled lava]

you can turn the first person motion off

[half atlas]

You can?

[grizzled lava]

yeah I forget the name

lemme find it

[half atlas]

Imagine doing ROFL copter...

With camera movement on

[grizzled lava]

yeah there are like 3 ways

nothing -> head bobbing -> full lock

[half atlas]

I'll give it a look

Thanks for your help

I absolutely adore your monster emotes mod

So sillly

[grizzled lava]

glad you enjoy it lol

[half atlas]

I got an amazing clip from it

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1179578859478319155/1217966600976728194/California_Girls_Peeper.mp4?ex=660f2d4a&is=65fcb84a&hm=27205096117a863a85e51e72ac73110ffdb1a0f46778130db09c5d97f01e58db&

[grizzled lava]

oh

ok so the "None" option only partially works at the moment, never noticed that

we have a patch coming out in a day or two with global configs, I'll sneak it into that

[half atlas]

Nice

[grizzled lava]

currently the least nausiating option is head bobbing

[azure plaza]

loooool that happened to me today

[grizzled lava]

which isn't terrible but I understand if it's still a lot

[azure plaza]

they were dancing on my body

[half atlas]

Does seeing the model in the mirror not work?

Mine is invisible in the mirror

[grizzled lava]

I didn't check

but that makes sens

because for my third person method. I literally just take the culling mask of the spectator camera and use that (aka, you can see anything a spectator would) and that doesn't work

I assume the mirror works in the same way

[half atlas]

Oooh okie

Still seeing the proto mod spam errors after exiting a save file btw

Hopefully it can be ignored and it's still visible to friends at least

[limber wind]

So I'm trying to import my animation to Unity, I'm using the chadrig thing but once I apply the chadrigavatar.asset to my rig, the animation only works with the default unity model and the scavenger model stays stationary? Is this to be expected?

[grizzled lava]

Yeah I've noticed this on my end sometimes as well

It works fine in game though

I think it has something to do with having extra objects in the blender scene

[limber wind]

I've ported my emote to the game just fine. But for some reason my emote name seems to be appending my GUID to the front. Any idea why this happens?

[narrow geyser]

did you make sure to set the displayName field of the CustomEmoteParams?

[limber wind]

Hm I thought the internal name was enough. Seems like that worked though. thanks

[narrow geyser]

The internalName is more of a unique id for the emote

It should've been called that tbh

Unless nunchuk had a good reason that I'm forgetting about

[faint bane]

emoteGUID moment

[grizzled lava]

Well it's not a unique identifier because other people can use the same name. That's why I auto append the guid to the internal name, to guarantee it is unique

The only aspect that must be unique is in the scope of a single mod, no two internal names can be the same

[narrow geyser]

Alright, so I understand where you're coming from, but that's basically the same thing?

like it's still unique

it can't have a duplicate within the same mod

the XMLDocs should at least explain that

[grizzled lava]

It kinda do

[narrow geyser]

hold on, is internalName a required param?

[grizzled lava]

No

[narrow geyser]

it should really say, "Override the internal Identifier used to reference this emote in code, <bold>Not the Name Displayed in UI</bold>"

[grizzled lava]

<bold> 🤓 </bold>

[limber wind]

I'm trying to get a 2d beam effect to work as a prop in an emote. Right now I'm considering 2 methods and so far neither work.

1. Create a beam in blender with a particle sim. Problem is blender doesn't have a good way to import these to Unity and the only way is keyframing a 1000 particles as individual objects which is 😬
2. Import a 2D beam effect green screen mp4, apply it to a quad on a video player and chromakey out the green. This seems to look fine in unity, But problem is I can't really apply quads to timelines and video players don't work on it either. Any idea how I can work around this?

[grizzled lava]

I can't quite picture what you are doing but it sounds like you want https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/ParticleSystem.html

[faint bane]

line renderer?

[grizzled lava]

Global config has been pushed! Whenever you launch for the first time after installing 1.7.0, your global config will be created copying off of whatever profile you are currently on. This way you won't need to reassign emotes and settings whenever switching profiles, sorry this took so long

Also you can now use the join key to join any emote that doesn't explicitly have the parameter
allowJoining == false

previously this was exclusive to only emotes that supported full sync, but now it works on anything because that just makes sense

[grizzled lava]

local configs do still exist, but the default will use the global config

Relevant with global configs mainly, if you have emotes on your wheel that are not currently installed, it should look something like this

doesn't break anything, just lets you know that these emotes will not work

[grizzled lava]

Man this game is so boring, glad I got my phone with me

[faint bane]

0/10 no family guy

[grizzled lava]

[grizzled lava]

brainrot is going to be real

[granite star]

This is the best thing ever

I love brainrot

[faint bane]

you should make the other hand able to open another phone with family guy

[grizzled lava]

Enemy Interactions has those toggles now

mind you, it only prevents Enemy Interactions from causing enemies to emote. If another mod comes along and makes enemies emote for any reason that's out of my scope

[azure plaza]

thanks so much!

[grizzled lava]

Also for technical reasons, it only uses the host's config, because making enemies emote only for select players could cause issues in a few scenarios

[azure plaza]

All good. I prefer it when things are synced for everyone

[grizzled lava]

Yeah

On a technicality

Same with the slime

It's not really emoting

But ya know

[faint bane]

rare chance for the earth leviathan to grow arms and legs and start flossing

[limber wind]

how did you implement the video player?

[grizzled lava]

pretty much just "put video player on a plane lol"

• hyper compressed videos

like super hyper compressed

90 minutes of video -> 79MB lol

[craggy geyser]

I have just two questions, maybe I'm just missing something, but anyway. What does the "Use Global Settings" toggle do?

Second question, before when I customized the emote wheel it would update for my friends through the config they'd get from the profile code, but now that config doesn't seem to be updating for them. Did an update get pushed recently that altered the config?

[narrow geyser]

The global settings are stored separately from your profile config

it lets you keep a set of settings that won't get overwritten

disabling it will give you the old behavior, where the config is stored in the profile

[craggy geyser]

Ohh okay, thank you very much

[sleek copper]

Is there a way to disable movement while emoting? Love the mod but my players keep spamming them it in the facility and it is starting to become really annoying.

[half atlas]

What mod adds this?

[grizzled lava]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gemumoddo/Emotes2_And_Knuckles/

[red needle]

its always a good day when emotes2 gets to be shilled

[half atlas]

Gonna try it out next time I play. Thanks!

[azure plaza]

Hi can you add a config to set how long enemies can emote?

[grizzled lava]

I would like to hear more info on that. Because as it is right now, whenever emote devs setup their emotes with EnemyInteractions. They themselves determine how long said emotes will be playing for

Not enemy interactions

[azure plaza]

oh really? I always assumed it played it for however long the loop lasts

[grizzled lava]

yeah the emote devs themselves already are forced to specify that

[azure plaza]

well I'm only using the default emotes from BadAssEmotes which afaik is a depedancy

[grizzled lava]

It was a dependency for the duration of it being the only one that added enemy interactions, but since there are others now, it's all optional

For BadAssEmotes, I could look into it when I get the chance, no timeline on that though

My main concern with that would just be, config overload. Where most people will just see it and glaze over it all

but it is possible

[azure plaza]

alright

its just a small thing. I just wished that some emotes like the dead player ones lasted longer so that my friend would get confused

[half atlas]

Once monsters start emoting they never stop

[grizzled lava]

Define never stop

or was that more of a suggestion for when I get around to adding the config option

I think it was that

[half atlas]

They keep emoting even when dead

It's a bug, not a feature I'm suggesting

[grizzled lava]

o

oh

fuck

v50 is on the beta branch on steam

[red needle]

[grizzled lava]

#750645813771763723 message

[eager cradle]

(

[half atlas]

Should I remove the mod for now?

[grizzled lava]

it's in open beta, so unless you are playing that you should be fine

[faint bane]

https://discord.gg/zeekerss

[grizzled lava]

as for if it works with the v50 beta

uhhhh

[red needle]

Its time to get testing

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-goku-kissing-hop-on-hop-on-lethal-company-gif-186251863596980268

[eager cradle]

let's gooo

time to test

[grizzled lava]

working fine so far

[eager cradle]

also, changelog where 👀

[grizzled lava]

don't think you will need any update for emotes api

no changelog yet

boring ahh new moon

[velvet monolith]

Wait, enemies can emote?

[grizzled lava]

Yeah emotesapi supports all vanilla enemies (+ a few modded, I need to expand that a bit)

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gemumoddo/EnemyInteractions/

this actually makes use of them being able to emote

[velvet monolith]

Oh, but not with your emote mod

[grizzled lava]

?

[velvet monolith]

BadAssCompany?

[grizzled lava]

yeah badasscompany is what actually provides the emotes, for enemies to use

NekiymanEmotes also does as far as I know

[velvet monolith]

I see

So this could make masked emote also? Would be funny since with Mirage it's harder to tell, but emoting can confirm that your not a masked at the moment.

[grizzled lava]

yeah masked also emote

I'll be keeping an eye out, if anyone has issues with emotesapi on v50 pls lemme know

seems pretty stable at the moment though

[grizzled lava]

pushing this out in a few minutes

emotes api already works in v50, just adding the emote skeletons for the new enemies

from what I can tell, no emote mod devs will need to update at all, should just work™️

[eager cradle]

[16:58:18.8658947] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LcEmotes2AndKnucklesFeaturingDante.Emotes.EmoteRegistry.OnSpawnWorldProps (System.String animName, BoneMapper mapper) (at G:/LcEmotes2AndKnucklesFeaturingDante/LcEmotes2AndKnucklesFeaturingDante/Emotes/EmoteRegistry.cs:81)
EmotesAPI.CustomEmotesAPI.Changed (System.String newAnimation, BoneMapper mapper) (at <5ea6a76e68b64a939aa92612cba2c84f>:0)
BoneMapper.PlayAnim (System.String s, System.Int32 pos) (at <5ea6a76e68b64a939aa92612cba2c84f>:0)
BoneMapper.PlayAnim (System.String s, System.Int32 pos, System.Int32 eventNum) (at <5ea6a76e68b64a939aa92612cba2c84f>:0)
EmoteNetworker.SyncEmoteToClientRpc (System.UInt64 playerId, System.String animation, System.Int32 pos, System.Int32 eventNum) (at <5ea6a76e68b64a939aa92612cba2c84f>:0)
EmoteNetworker.__rpc_handler_1218916340 (Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour target, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader reader, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams rpcParams) (at <5ea6a76e68b64a939aa92612cba2c84f>:0)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers.Handle (Unity.Netcode.NetworkContext& context, Unity.Netcode.RpcMetadata& metadata, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader& payload, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams& rpcParams) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:0)
Rethrow as Exception: Unhandled RPC exception!
UnityEngine.Logger:LogException(Exception, Object)
AsyncLoggers.Wrappers.Unity.<>c__DisplayClass4_0:<LogException>b__0()
AsyncLoggers.Wrappers.Unity.<>c__DisplayClass28_0:<wrapCallback>b__0()
AsyncLoggers.Wrappers.JobWrapper:LogWorker()
AsyncLoggers.Wrappers.LogJob:Execute()
Unity.Jobs.JobStruct`1:Execute(LogJob&, IntPtr, IntPtr, JobRanges&, Int32)

hmm

[grizzled lava]

oooooh

[grizzled lava]

let me guess EladsHUD is installed?

It removes the hud healthbar guy, and I have checks in base emotesapi for this, but Emotes2 fucks with it a bit, and I didn't implement checks there as well

Fix for Emotes2 coming in a few minutes

[eager cradle]

yeah EladsHUD is installed

[grizzled lava]

yeah that's my b then. Kinda forgor to actually check that stuff

#thunderstore-releases message

just gotta wait on r2modman to pick it up now

[half atlas]

The stop current emote button isn't working for me for some reason

[grizzled lava]

The button on the wheel or the keybind?

[half atlas]

Button on the wheel

[grizzled lava]

Can you send me a log

[half atlas]

Output log?

[grizzled lava]

Yeah

[half atlas]

I'm using v50

[grizzled lava]

• a profile code if you have one

[half atlas]

Okie

[half atlas]

018ea113-a4bc-f491-14fc-2c76c7425915

[grizzled lava]

[half atlas]

Terminal is also blank for some reason

[grizzled lava]

I think that is LLL but don't quote me on that

might be a few things

[half atlas]

I got both versions in the pack

[grizzled lava]

the what now

[half atlas]

Both LLL in my modpack

[grizzled lava]

oh ALL?

[half atlas]

The fixed one and the other one

[grizzled lava]

o

I'll fact check myself while I'm at it

[half atlas]

Okie

[grizzled lava]

well

terminal is def breaking, but the stop button seems fine

let me do some digging in your log

hmmm, seems like on your end, the button wasn't even being "pressed"

as in there is no sign of it being used, correctly or in error form

[half atlas]

Whaaa

Why is it just broken for me lol

[grizzled lava]

great question

can you send me a video of it breaking for you?

[narrow geyser]

every copy is personalized

[grizzled lava]

I just wanna confirm how it's breaking

[half atlas]

There's not much stuff to record tbh

Literally just me using the emote and then clicking the stop emote button

[grizzled lava]

well more what I meant I guess

is the stop button highlighting for you?

[grizzled lava]

like it does here

also I disabled LLL + LLL fixed and their moons, seems like the terminal works again

[half atlas]

Oooh, I'm unsure if it was highlighting

I just turned my PC off though

[grizzled lava]

F

[half atlas]

I'm assuming it was highlighting since I could use emotes

[grizzled lava]

hmmmm

[half atlas]

Thanks for letting me know

[half atlas]

https://outplayed.tv/media/vYPYkY

[grizzled lava]

what.... it's even highlighting

I'm so confused now lol

can you send me the log file from that session?

also hypothetically, if you hover over a "none" slice and let go, does it stop your emote?

[grizzled lava]

@narrow geyser thoughts, opiniots?

for reference this was the last log output, which shows just nothing happened

@half atlas as a backup, not that this is a good answer, but if you check in the keybinds, you can bind something to cancel your emote. I would suggest using that while we take a look at it

[half atlas]

Alrighty, I'll bind it to something

[half atlas]

Selecting none also doesn't cancel the emote

I turned off my PC again without reading your last message about sending the log, but I assume the log is the same as the last one since I didn't do anything different

For reference, the cancel button just recently stopped working for me. I've been using emotes API for months without issue

[grizzled lava]

that's so weird, I almost wonder if "none" is not getting bound for you

if the manual keybind doesn't work that's what I'm going with

[half atlas]

I'll try the manual keybind next time I boot up my PC

[grizzled lava]

also whenever you are playing again, as a desperate attempt to make sure stuff is installed correctly, if you could do this, but for EmotesAPI not BadAssCompany

||sorry for turning you into the guinea pig :c||

[half atlas]

Sure, I could delete the cache and see

I didn't know it cached stuff

I'm wondering if I should just delete all of the cache for every mod

Is the cache necessary?

[grizzled lava]

I mean, unless a mod is acting up I wouldn't delete the cache. while it's not explicitly necessary, unless you need to debug something there isn't a whole lot of reasons to delete your cache unless you really wanna suck up that sweet sweet bandwidth

[half atlas]

Alrighty

[half atlas]

Still not working. I also tried binding stop emote but that didn't work either]

Log from that test

[grizzled lava]

wait

wait

this is really funny if this is the case

and I'm 99% sure that's the case now

@half atlas send me your local/global cfg file

or actually, it would be easier

let me show you what I wanna see

mind you this is an oversight I need to fix, but I think I have figured it out

I think you disabled the "none" emote

[red needle]

thats a thing you can do?

https://tenor.com/view/xd-meme-funny-emoji-gif-15406750

[grizzled lava]

That's probably your problem if I were to guess

because it has the exact same symptoms you are having

you can just re-enable the none emote for now

I'll uhh, fix that tomorrow

[red needle]

[half atlas]

Disabling the none emote does that?!

XD

You're kidding

It's working now lol

[narrow geyser]

None emote is how we cancel emotes

Huge oversight that you can disable it

Pretty funny though

[grizzled lava]

Yeah disabling emotes is only for if you just don't want to see an emote at all since you won't see others use it either. But yeah you shouldn't be able to disable "none" lol

[half atlas]

So silly

Thanks for the fix

Only thing I'm dealing with now is monsters not spawning

But of course that's not related to this mod

[grizzled lava]

F

[half atlas]

018ea773-b6f1-e5f9-1c1c-7ca279d96246

[small ginkgo]

idea for emotes and knuckles https://youtube.com/shorts/8k7_bz2lF2s?si=wJ4OT8OfiXObJUt3

[grizzled lava]

well, neither of the credits in UntitledEmotesPack are valid discord tags so I'm just gonna shout this into the void

you have an assetbundle called props, TooManyEmotes also has an assetbundle called props

as a result, only one can be loaded at a time, so I would recommend changing that bundle name to something more unique

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamOrnamentalFrFR/UntitledEmotesPack/

[grizzled lava]

guess I could also ping you @tender sinew, if one of y'all wants to change your assetbundle to be not "props"

[tender sinew]

Yeah, it wouldn't hurt. I'll likely push an update today anyways, but I could quickly rename it 👍

[half atlas]

Another stack of errors with emote api included in there

Terminal is broken

[narrow geyser]

is this on v49 or v50?

[half atlas]

V50

018ebf5f-21b6-2b08-39cb-d71d009c43bd

[narrow geyser]

what did you do to make the error happen?

[half atlas]

Just used the terminal

Another error

[narrow geyser]

that second one seems unrelated to emotes api

[half atlas]

Thought i'd include it just incase

[narrow geyser]

seems to be a mod conflict of some kind

testing emotes api on it's own, no issues occur

[half atlas]

I'll do some more testing

My guess is it's just some terminal mod messing up

[narrow geyser]

well, we do have some patching done with terminals

specifically to disable emotes when entering a terminal

so if I had to guess, it's probably a patch conflict

well

took a look at where the error shows emotes api

the error came from a regular hook method

which is even more odd

[half atlas]

Strange

[narrow geyser]

on the first screenshot

I need the error that's above the one from emotes api

could you send a full log?

[half atlas]

How do I send logs that aren't the latest?

[narrow geyser]

iirc bepinex only keeps the latest logs, so if you've already lost them, it's too late

[half atlas]

Aghh

[narrow geyser]

could try reproducing the error

and then send it

[half atlas]

I removed a few mods since then and it seems the error with emotes api is gone but i still can't use the terminal

[narrow geyser]

have you verified that all of the mods you're using are compatible with v50?

[half atlas]

Is there a list

[narrow geyser]

well, the official way of finding out, is to check the mod releases thread and see if it's tagged with v50

otherwise

the list isn't very big though

and some of the data isn't accurate

[half atlas]

Tried everything I could

Still the same error

[narrow geyser]

that error is just a text rendering issue

it shouldn't stop the terminal from working

if you have everything else enabled, does the error still occur with emotes api disabled?

[half atlas]

I don't think it's related to emotes api

once I touch the terminal, I can't back out and no commands work

[narrow geyser]

you might be better off making a post in the #1185732310700654732 forums.

[half atlas]

Okie

[grizzled lava]

1.8.0 is out, Keybinds are now a thing

big thanks to @narrow geyser for doing all the UI work so I don't have to

[hazy dew]

@grizzled lava Hi, do you have any desire to import the mod into Content Warning?

[grizzled lava]

I thought about it, tbh having to fiddle with Photon networking seems annoying + content warning already has a pretty solid emote system built in place. I'm not saying it will never happen, but I currently don't have much desire to deal with that unfortunately

actually it's much less "I don't have much desire to deal with that" and much more "I have other stuff I wanna do"

but ya know, LethalEmotesAPI is fully open source so if there is someone with coding knowledge they are always free to. Granted it's not as simple as "port it lmao"

[red needle]

Coding isnt hard, just hit a few buttons and make it work

https://tenor.com/view/hurry-up-judge-judy-time-is-up-gif-5267355

[grizzled lava]

I only work on important things here

[grizzled lava]

Just letting anyone know who needs to know, I'm currently testing v50 (not the beta branch) and stuff seems fine still

[grizzled lava]

Jerma Window is out now

[narrow geyser]

[grizzled lava]

new worst mod ever just dropped lmao https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gemumoddo/TulipSnakeFlashbang/

[versed obsidian]

Just wanted to ask if there is a way to extend the available emotes list, since I installed so many that mine doesn't show all of them 😅

Also, is there a way to auto-fill wheels or add emotes faster than using the drag-and-drop?

[narrow geyser]

what? there shouldn't be a limit to how much the emote list can show

[narrow geyser]

not currently, we don't have any good ideas on how it would fill the wheels other than just generated wheels for every emote installed.

[versed obsidian]

Oh. I'll check for conflicting mods then. I thought that maybe I just had too many and had to reach a second page of emotes or something. It stops around G due to the sheer amount and I have to use the search to look up more emotes after that

[narrow geyser]

the problem with that, is that the current UI doesn't have great UX for manipulating a large amount of wheels yet

[narrow geyser]

that's odd, the emotes past G show up when searched?

could you send logs?

[versed obsidian]

If I look up emotes past G they seem to show up. Should I try to turn off mods that may cause conflicts and perform a clean install first or do you want the logs now?

[narrow geyser]

send the logs first

should help me narrow the cause

[versed obsidian]

Like this?

[narrow geyser]

yup

welp

found the problem

it's an issue on our end

going to fix it as soon as I can

can you send an modpack code so that I can test the fix?

[versed obsidian]

Sure, I was only testing out emotes since my old modpack was messed up and I was installing mods "slowly" now. Thanks for the help!

[versed obsidian]

018edd06-7b43-3cc1-b6ba-e37fc19e219e

[narrow geyser]

to keep you updated, I found the cause, I'm now looking into how to fix it.

it's an issue related to our old legacy (v1) emote importer

[versed obsidian]

Oh, okay! Thank you for the help and the info! 😄

[grizzled lava]

@versed obsidian fixed it in 1.9.1. It was an issue with legacy emote packs working weird with keybinds.

[versed obsidian]

Cool! Good to know. Thank you everyone for the help 😄

Tried the patch. Definitely fixed now 👍

[narrow geyser]

back-tracking a bit, is this related to how long it takes to open the customize panel?

[versed obsidian]

Uhh no, I don't mind having to press the customize panel if that's what you mean. I just wish there was a button to create wheels that added all emotes in alphabetical order for example, or a button/click that automatically added an emote to the wheel without having to drag and drop it

[narrow geyser]

well, I ask because when I tested your modpack, it took like 3-4 seconds just to open the customize panel

which is 3-4 seconds too long

[versed obsidian]

Oh, my customize panel opens quite quickly

Pretty much instant in my case

[narrow geyser]

huh

weird

[woven heron]

Regarding the json data for emote wheels, if I wanted to ship already configured emote wheels with my modpack, where could I find my local emote wheels' json string?

[grizzled lava]

uhh, for the local emote wheels, that's just in your config already. doesn't that get synced automatically with modpacks?

[woven heron]

So it is in the config but the emote wheel I created in-game did not update in the config even after closing the game.

[grizzled lava]

are you sure you weren't editing the global settings?

[narrow geyser]

hey again

it's global stuff again

sorry

[woven heron]

Hello again, this is another case of me editing global without knowing it existed lmao

Is there any way for me to get those settings over to local since I already configured some stuff?

[grizzled lava]

yeah let me find the global config location

[narrow geyser]

yeah

[woven heron]

Great, thank you

[woven heron]

Guess I'll ask the same question here, does it work like in InputUtils where it only overrides if you create your own settings? @narrow geyser

[woven heron]

Thanks

To clarify I mean global when I say "it"

[narrow geyser]

nah, this is either local or global

[woven heron]

Is that something I can change for the player?

[narrow geyser]

unfortunately not, but it's very easy to change when in game

[grizzled lava]

using global settings, is in of itself, a global setting

to prevent headache for people sharing around codes constantly and having to reset it

[woven heron]

Gotcha, I'll just have to let them know then

[grizzled lava]

yeah it's just the single checkbox they have to switch

[narrow geyser]

it's in the customize panel even

once they change that it'll stick

[grizzled lava]

or at the very top of lethal config, whichever is easier

[woven heron]

Question, if there are no Global settings defined (eg. a freshly generated config on first launch), does LEAPI copy the local config file into the global config? I'm in the mentioned directory and am removing the global config file to test a first-time experience, but every time I restart the game it regenerates including the values it had previously (which are currently identical to the local settings).

[narrow geyser]

yes

it copies the local into the global if global doesn't exist

[woven heron]

Cool, that solves my issue entirely then although I'm under the impression it won't sync again if I make further changes to the local config

I'd kind of appreciate an option in the (local) config to have the global config be respected or not so I can sidestep this issue entirely, but I understand implementing it that way causes other issues

[narrow geyser]

yeah, wre're looking into a way to make it so modpacks can specify not to have global enabled by default

[woven heron]

All good, ideally if I set this up right I won't have to make further revisions until one of the emote mods ends up adding new emotes, so I think I'm good for now

Thanks for all the help and sorry if I came off as kind of assholeish yesterday with that antagonistic comment lol

[narrow geyser]

it's fine

the criticism helps us figure out what we need to improve on

[grizzled lava]

hey @tender sinew and @lilac ice, just want your opinions on something I threw together today before I put more effort into it. Was looking into having EmotesAPI register y'alls emotes into itself only if your mods are already present. The end result would still follow the rules your mods have in place for the emotes since it is just calling your play functions. For TME specifically I would also make sure it checks for emotes being unlocked before they are allowed to be used.

The main purpose of this would be to allow further customization + allowing people to utilize all emote mods at once without having to juggle 3 different emote wheels.

I just wanted to hear your thoughts on this since, while I'm not technically consolidating your mods into EmotesAPI since it's just grabbing info from your mods if they are already loaded, I can understand if you would rather I don't

[lilac ice]

Fine by me, i was looking into doing the same thing a while back but didnt have time.

[tender sinew]

Yeah, you should definitely do it! I am about to pass out for the night, but let me get back to you tomorrow. I'll let you know anything related to if you can perform one of my emotes, and the conditions for adding them to the emote wheel, for instance if they are unlocked or not 👍

Edit: I didn't realize you posted a quick video. Honestly, it looks like it's already mostly setup. If I think of anything I think you might need to know, I'll let you know

[azure plaza]

where did you get some of these? they're really cool

the snake, sign, and flat one

[woven heron]

Snake is from TooManyEmotes, AFK sign is from BadassCompany, flat (Lights Camera Action) is from Emotes2 And Knuckles

On a similar note, has anyone made a More Emotes port to EmotesAPI or something like that? I’m mainly interested in using some of the emotes that aren’t otherwise available (specifically the middle finger, clap, shy, and salute emotes as those don’t appear to have equivalents on EmotesAPI)? Bonus points if it maintains the feature where using the emote twice throws out double middle fingers/faster clapping (or another emote for those if EmotesAPI can’t do that) and extra credit if it has the writable sign

[red needle]

I believe the AFK sign is from TME

[red needle]

I don't believe anyone has but with this system you will be able to call them via the EAPI wheel, though they will have the same bugs and issues that calling them normally via ME already does. With how EAPI works anyone could port the emotes over but we specifically didn't really wanna step on any toes with just remaking or yoinking a bunch of hand gestures from other existing mods.

[grizzled lava]

Hey just following up, I'm setting up the join key. In TME specifically, the current join functionality is effectively "interact with player in melee range to join", is that a design decision? EmoteApi's join system is just "join closest emoter regardless of distance"

Just trying to figure out how I want to set that part up

[tender sinew]

Yeah, give me a second. I'm in a meeting right now, but I'll shoot a reply in just a bit.

[grizzled lava]

yeah no rush, take your time

[tender sinew]

I can't imagine there would be a problem with using your current system for syncing emotes with a player who's performing a TME emote.
It would probably just make sense to keep your logic as it is so you don't have to worry about adding functionality for interacting with the player like my mod does.

I will assume you're looping over all of the players, and comparing the distances if they are performing an emote, and then choosing the closest player.

If you want to check if a player is performing an emote from TME, you could probably write something similar to this.
Not all emotes are syncable, but you can easily check if it is.

public static bool IsPlayerPerformingSyncableTMEEmote(PlayerControllerB playerController)
{
    if (EmoteControllerPlayer.emoteControllerLocal == null) // This should never be null, but just in case
        return false;

    if (EmoteControllerPlayer.allPlayerEmoteControllers.TryGetValue(playerController, out var emoteController) && !emoteController.isLocalPlayer)
    {
        if (emoteController.IsPerformingCustomEmote() && emoteController.performingEmote.canSyncEmote) // emoteController.performingEmote should not be null if emoteController.IsPerformingCustomEmote() returns true
        {
            return true;
        }
    }
    return false;
}

And if you wanted to finally sync with a player who is performing an emote from TME, you could write something similar to this.

public static void SyncWithPlayerPerformingTMEEmote(PlayerControllerB playerController)
{
    if (EmoteControllerPlayer.emoteControllerLocal == null)
        return;

    bool success = false;
    if (EmoteControllerPlayer.allPlayerEmoteControllers.TryGetValue(playerController, out var syncWithEmoteController) && !syncWithEmoteController.isLocalPlayer)
        success = EmoteControllerPlayer.emoteControllerLocal.TrySyncingEmoteWithEmoteController(syncWithEmoteController);
        
    // If success is false, that's okay. Nothing broke. It just won't perform the emote on the local player for whatever reason.
    if (!success)
        LogWarning("Failed to sync with TME emote controller. This is okay.");
}

Obviously those two methods are just an example on how you could do it, but you can implement this whichever works best for you.
I can't think of a reason why this wouldn't work with how you guys sync with the nearest player who's emoting, but I'll let you know if something pops in my head that you might want to know.

Also, if you were wanting to only add unlocked TME emotes to the emote wheel, you could do so by looping over this list. This list can update mid-session.

foreach (UnlockableEmote emote in SessionManager.unlockedEmotes)
{
    // Add to emote menu or something, idk
}

[grizzled lava]

cool, got it working with both emote mods now. But we've realized we are the only emote mod without gamepad support, so I'm going to at least partially rectify that before pushing this out

[austere hearth]

question: is it a known issue that some players can't see some others emote in multiplayer? like they will still hear the music playing but no animation. or could this be a conflicting mods problem?

[narrow geyser]

that's not a known issue no, it could be a mod conflict, could you send a modpack code?

[austere hearth]

sure this is the most recent one where we noticed problems: 018ee309-3c2d-412f-a3da-885197988f12

[grizzled lava]

Was it a constant problem or just sometimes?

[austere hearth]

constant but it was different for each player, like i could see player 1 and 2 emote but not 3 and 4. where someone else saw only player 2 not emote

[grizzled lava]

If you still have the log from that run it might help, if not all good

[austere hearth]

uhh never checked logs before, where could i find those?

[grizzled lava]

Uhh I'm on mobile at the moment let me see if there is an image

@narrow geyser get me an image

[austere hearth]

is this it?

[grizzled lava]

Yes

1.26 MB for a log file

[austere hearth]

is that bad? xD

[grizzled lava]

Probably just means something was spamming

[hazy dew]

@grizzled lava Hello, they wrote to me that my dances do not work on version 50. Is this due to the fact that I have not updated it for a long time or because your mod has not been updated for version 50?

[grizzled lava]

Uhh, you shouldn't need to update stuff on your end, I can take a look when I get off work

Do they have a profile code I could use when I get the time?

[grizzled lava]

yeah it's probably a mod conflict if anything so I need a modpack code. With just other emote mods it works fine

[grizzled lava]

As for this issue, I'm not so sure, testing locally with your profile and it seems fine so far.

Looking at the log you sent, there are only 4 emote at all, all of which are Recieved message to play none on client. Playing on Player (UnityEngine.GameObject) which just amounts to canceling the emote on the base player. I'm wondering if there was something else going on. Are y'all still playing on v49 by any chance or something like that?

[austere hearth]

no we played on v50, but i do think that log might have been from a test session and not the actual session where we played and had issues

[grizzled lava]

ah ok

well I'll be on the look out for the issue, if it happens again to y'all can you send me the log from that session?

[austere hearth]

will do

[grizzled lava]

[woven heron]

Debugging my modpack with a friend. I was able to start a game fine, but whenever my friend would join, he'd join into a black screen. I've determined the cause to be Emotes2 And Knuckles specifically as it doesn't occur when that mod is disabled (even if other mods that use EmotesAPI like BadAssCompany and TF2Emotes are)

Log file. The stack trace implicates ReservedItemSlotCore, but it was also implicating DiscJockey before I disabled it during troubleshooting. Appears to just spit out whatever is doing stuff on join

[grizzled lava]

that sound strange...

is it consistant?

[woven heron]

100% consistently reproduceable

[grizzled lava]

profile code?

I wanna test around with it

[woven heron]

One sec

[red needle]

Emotes 2 and Knuckle issues

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

[woven heron]

This code should be able to reproduce it, I haven't tried it with just Emotes2 enabled, but my testing methodology was to start with BAC, TF2Emotes, and Emotes2 disabled (so that only EmotesAPI was enabled). No issue, so I enabled BAC on next run. No issue, so I enabled TF2Emotes. No issue, so I enabled Emotes2, and the issue manifested immediately on someone joining the lobby.

018eea15-4a1d-e26e-fb8e-1b8ea18e2430

[grizzled lava]

yep that would uhh, that would def be us

not sure how that is happening mind you, because I've never seen that

I'll start digging

[woven heron]

Alrighty, thanks

Glad I caught this trying to show the emotes to a friend ahead of our gameplay session with other friends lol, would've been a pain in the moment

[grizzled lava]

yeah it's def some sort of conflict, as you can see by the window (from emotes 2) showing up. I just shot the first large groups of mods and it seems to work fine. I'll try and figure out the exact root cause though

[woven heron]

Alright, thanks again

Out of curiosity, what do you use to run two sessions at once?

[narrow geyser]

double clicking the LethalCompany.exe twice

LethalCompany doesn't use steam DRM

so you can launch multiple instances of it by launching the executable directly

[woven heron]

And that works with r2modman? Or are you dragging in the mod files manually?

[narrow geyser]

you need to manage the mods manually

r2modman requires steam

[woven heron]

Gotcha. I'll probably give it a try to help with solo testing since I wouldn't have caught this unless I coincidentally had my friend check something, thanks

[grizzled lava]

well it's down to two culprits

time to find out which

""culprits"" in heavy air quotes here

It's better spray paint

why is it better spraypaint?

maybe I am stupid, let's check

[woven heron]

It was 100% happening without DiscJockey, this wouldn't be the first time BSP broke something, apparently it causes the same type of bug with Rosie's Moons on v49

Now as to why it's disagreeing with an emote mod is beyond me but the mod also hasn't been updated for a long while

[grizzled lava]

well it's a conflicting NetworkId

and it's spraypaint, not discjockey doing it

[woven heron]

yep

[grizzled lava]

pulling up my unity project to see if I did a stupid with my NetworkId as well

[woven heron]

In any case I'll probably look around to see if I can find a reasonably updated mod that does something similar

[narrow geyser]

just randomize the NetworkId on launch

[grizzled lava]

I think

I'm doing something stupid

well maybe

I'm giving it a networkObject in code, not in Unity, I think that is a bad thing to do

we'll see

(I was doing a stupid thing)

sorry about that, will push out an update here in a couple minutes

really I think it boils down to -> we both assign a NetworkObject in code, which just gives it a networkId of 0, which causes conflicts

but if you do it in unity it's actually reliable

it's been fixed #thunderstore-releases message

[woven heron]

Thanks again, my friend went to bed so I won't be testing it ASAP but I'll let you know if we run into any further issues

[grizzled lava]

[woven heron]

I think I'll also be throwing this conversation over to Rosie since their mod experiences a similar issue

[grizzled lava]

where now?