Lethal Emotes API

[narrow wraith]

thats how i knew there was props in it

dont think you gave me the right timestamp this is just code and watching the emotes in game

[grizzled lava]

For which

Props?

[narrow wraith]

you said a better preview thing

no no

[grizzled lava]

Oh

[narrow wraith]

i wanted to see what you meant

[grizzled lava]

Well it's at 15:35

[narrow wraith]

the playable director thing ?

[grizzled lava]

Yeah

[narrow wraith]

it uses a timeline and plays it in the main scene

[grizzled lava]

You can just seek through your animation

Or move your audio around

To eyeball stuff

[narrow wraith]

thats cool

thats very useful for sync

oh but audio and animation has to be on frame 0 anyways

[grizzled lava]

Honestly no idea why this feature isn't talked about more

Yeah, it helps with lining up stuff

Gonna see if in the future we can let you just import a timeline though as I said in the video

But we just found out about it's existence like 3 days ago lol

[narrow wraith]

ah

i will use it for preview but i wont use it for timing

for now

well i will use it for timing but i will still cut the animation or the audio trim

i noticed a couple small issues with my emotes when playing with them xD

i will fix those later

[grizzled lava]

Imagine playing the game 💀

[narrow wraith]

first itme in a while

[grizzled lava]

I've done nothing but program for 2 months

[narrow wraith]

since my schedule didnt align with my friends

damn

[grizzled lava]

Can't get enough of it

Then again I've done basically nothing for the past year and a half so ...

[narrow wraith]

but i need a game object to use this function

so i need to see more off the tutorial i guess

oh i prob need a new example project

[grizzled lava]

I need sleep unfortunately but I'll answer any more questions when I wake

[narrow wraith]

np

its not important rn i will use the old school ways gn

[weary forge]

Are the emotes also silent for other players if you set your own volume to 0?

[narrow geyser]

Emote volume is local only

[rich egret]

found a bug where when I press random emote it still plays the previous emote over and over again (this happens when I land the ship)

[grizzled lava]

um

I've heard about this

isn't there a mod fixing the rng?

unless I'm crazy

[rich egret]

idk

[grizzled lava]

I'll look into it but like

it's pretty straightforward code, that can only be messed up if Random.Range isn't working

[rich egret]

https://cdn.gilcdn.com/ContentMediaGenericFiles/3c991c7c46f63a490e935a5cb268c137-Full.mp4?w=1920&h=1080&ia=1

i can try removing some mods that were just installed to see if it is causing it

[grizzled lava]

what would those be?

that would greatly help the process

[rich egret]

I installed lc sound tool

[grizzled lava]

if it only just broke for you

[rich egret]

and

customsounds

idk if that can break it

[grizzled lava]

was it working before you started installing stuff today?

[rich egret]

yes

it still works but it just stops working completely after landing

uninstalling those 2 to see if it affected it

ok now it broke kinda even more

its now repeating 2 emotes

[grizzled lava]

any other mods you installed recently?

[rich egret]

diversity and then thats it

i have a relatively small modlist compared to other ppl

ill send the clip to show the issue

[grizzled lava]

yeah it's diversity

:x

I'll look into why

[rich egret]

breh

https://cdn.gilcdn.com/ContentMediaGenericFiles/56a911fac119a2b996dcefcbee41b5c1-Full.mp4?w=1920&h=1080&ia=1

[grizzled lava]

I imagine it's setting rng to a constant value or something

closed source mod

why can't people be normal

[rich egret]

rip

diversity lagged my game anyways

[grizzled lava]

guess I get to dig through the dll

[rich egret]

through thunderstore source?

[grizzled lava]

dnspy

on it's dll

[rich egret]

ah

[grizzled lava]

aka

actually it might not be to be fair, could just be not very obvious

imma check with the mod dev before I continue this route

yeah, temporary issue

should be fixed soon™️

[rich egret]

awesome

[narrow wraith]

@grizzled lava reupload ?

sorry for alien language

[grizzled lava]

oh yes thanks for the reminder

I added some important text telling people to use unique file names, nothing else is different

making the old one unlisted

really just boils down to, you should make a unique folder name for your mod and put all assets in that folder, cause if two mods have the same file names, it doesn't load one of them

[narrow wraith]

i see

is there an updated example project ?

and if so where do i get that

found it

im missing something ?

oh its not important

nvm

also you prob should make a standalone tutorial for join spot too

im missing playable asset

[grizzled lava]

uhhh

[narrow wraith]

i loaded up the new project file

[grizzled lava]

let me clone it

[grizzled lava]

I probably will eventually, I kinda want to get a bunch of mini vids to put in the wiki for emotes to further help

but that is a huge undertaking

wtf unity

it just didn't remember the packages

[narrow wraith]

oh

so i need this ?

[grizzled lava]

well

you need a few things

I'm looking into it

[narrow wraith]

i see all this ?

i will just let you fix it first

then i redl it

the old school way is smooth and efficient for my needs rn anyways

do you have any way i can adjust the emote volume of specifc emotes without changing the entire audio file ?

since some of my audio is a bit too quiet

[grizzled lava]

not really, that kinda has to be done with the audio

basically every audio editor has a way to increase gain

[narrow wraith]

yeah but if i increased it too much it was like broken audio

so i stopped doing it

[grizzled lava]

wouldn't that happen in game too then?

[narrow wraith]

yeah prob

i think i know what i need to do

after some research

[grizzled lava]

think I fixed the repo, just testing really quick

I was ignoring the package manifest

in your case though, I honestly wouldn't recommend updating

since what you have works

[narrow wraith]

you mean i should use the old school way ?

[grizzled lava]

well the new repo isn't exactly new

just the one preview feature

[narrow wraith]

oh

[grizzled lava]

which you can just do anyway

[narrow wraith]

can you help me get the preview instead

xD

[grizzled lava]

wait

you're probably missing packages

[narrow wraith]

there isnt much harm to switch the repo for me though

[grizzled lava]

cause the old repo had missing packages

so no preview

yeah maybe just switch then

[narrow wraith]

its not like i need to change anything in the visual studios either

i dont think ?

[grizzled lava]

true

[narrow wraith]

ok i will swap

just let me know when you fix it

i will keep my old one as backup

if i need to fix something in them

now that i have more experience with unity i can keep my things more clean too

i also found out how to fix my audio

ez

now its louder and not skratchy

[grizzled lava]

[narrow wraith]

is there a mod to skip to lan screen

😄

i cant find one

useful for multi instance testing

also when you join spot emote and one player stop the other guy still does it shouldnt it stop together

😄

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ShaosilGaming/GeneralImprovements/

this mod lets you skip to lan

[grizzled lava]

yeah make sure to set
joiner.currentlyLockedBoneMapper = host;

use that when you are locking a joiner to a host

both joiner and host in this case are BoneMappers

[narrow wraith]

let me see

it is though ?

[grizzled lava]

oh then yeah

you can also reverse it after the joiner starts their animation

if you want either person to be able to cancel it

[narrow wraith]

yeah i want that

if 1 stop

both stop

[grizzled lava]

so then yeah

after the joiner plays an animation

host.currentlyLockedBoneMapper = joiner

[narrow wraith]

it needs to be in this right

[grizzled lava]

yes after the joiner starts playing

[narrow wraith]

so like this ?

joiner anim plays here

so i assume its like this ?

well like this

but yeah

[hazy dew]

URL please

[narrow wraith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfmFxi7_-Oo

accidently had timestamp on it

there you go

[weary forge]

Yesterday I played with my friends and I noticed some issues. Sometimes i as the host had ostrich legs for other players and for me other players (when not emoting) sometimes walked weirdly tilted backwards.

[red needle]

Can you provide a modpack code and some logs?

[weary forge]

018d1e27-e764-bfb8-70e5-96592e4845cc

[hazy dew]

Thanks

[crystal nimbus]

https://github.com/cmooref17/Lethal-Company-TooManyEmotes/issues/35
Does this have anything to do with you?

[grizzled lava]

it might, let me check

ah, yeah it's probably me tbh

[crystal nimbus]

What is tbh?

Is this problem being solved?

[narrow geyser]

"to be honest"

[crystal nimbus]

Understood

[grizzled lava]

fixed it, update coming out soonish

[crystal nimbus]

Wow, so fast... I should have written about it a week ago. 😂

[weary forge]

found something?

[grizzled lava]

oh, I think I fixed that

sorry forgor to mention

[weary forge]

are you talking to me?

[grizzled lava]

ye

I think the primary issue was using emotes from the other big two emote mods at the same time as emotes api emotes

which was causing bones to forget their positions

so now I just set it so like other emotes, ours cancel on other emotes playing

since that just makes sense anyway

[grizzled lava]

fyi to anyone making emote mods, I have recently pushed 1.3.0, which deprecates the normal

AddCustomAnimation.AddCustomAnimation(AnimationClipParams) in favor of

EmoteImporter.ImportEmote(CustomEmoteParams)

these two functions work almost identically, but some key differences are:

some parameters were renamed to make more sense and/or be more in line with.
I.E:
animationClip is now named primaryAnimationClips
_primaryAudioClips is now named primaryAudioClips

customName is now internalName, and displayName should be used instead

in addition, your emotes when imported with the new system, will have an internal name of
yourmodsGUID__internalName

this is what you will need to reference it too, don't worry if that seems weird, just try playing one of your emotes in game and look at the console, that's what you want to use now.

The primary purpose of this, and specifically why we made the change to the naming scheme is to allow for duplicate animations to coexist with no issue, before now if say a mod existed which adds the toothless dance, but then another mod also implements the toothless dance and names the file the same thing, whichever loads second will just not load at all. However with the mods GUID being appended to the internal name, duplicate emotes can exist no problem.

Again, the old system still works just as you know it, but any future features will only designed to work with EmoteImporter.ImportEmote(CustomEmoteParams)

technically speaking, as of right now, there is no reason to use the system except to prevent your emote from overriding someone elses or vice versa

so don't worry about rushing to fix this now unless you are affected by the duplicate issues of the original system

for reference

[grizzled lava]

I'll work on updating the wiki probably tomorrow, but as noted, not much is really different, just a couple of technical differences but the flow is ultimately unchanged

[nocturne dust]

im not sure if this is the right place to say this and im sorry if it isnt, but when i do random emotes every now and then there will be an emote that spawns an enemy

[grizzled lava]

oh fuck

I left in the debug stuff

let me remove that

[nocturne dust]

haha

i just put together a bunch of mods so i really wasnt sure

ty

[narrow geyser]

💀

[grizzled lava]

you can blacklist them for now, if you search spawn_

but the patch is being uploaded as we speak

[nocturne dust]

you legend

was not expecting a response this fast lmao

[grizzled lava]

#thunderstore-releases message

[crystal nimbus]

Some emotions allowed you to move slowly because of their peculiarity. Now there is no such thing, is there any way to get it back? @grizzled lava

[grizzled lava]

Is this specific to bad ass emotes or are other mods seeing the same issue?

[crystal nimbus]

Only for Badass fashion

The rest are not so important

[grizzled lava]

No I understand

I think I know why

[grizzled lava]

The other mods are good too :(

[crystal nimbus]

badass + more emotes + 200 emotions

This bunch is just a top

@grizzled lava For example, these emotions should automatically move forward - to fully convey the animation

[grizzled lava]

yeah

gonna make a quick patch

I changed how emotes get imported, and forgot to do the other step on my end

[crystal nimbus]

@grizzled lava
I'm just amazed at your corrections, there are so many of them. The guys and I worry every time we update the build of mods and look for bugs on their compatibility. As soon as we see from the top of the Thunder application that your mod has been updated, we bet on what exactly the update is: did the developer forget something or is it something global 😂

[grizzled lava]

99% of the time it's cause I forgot something

I try my best but I don't have the best testing methods

I really should set something up, but there is a lot to juggle

[crystal nimbus]

I am a tester to the core and bones, if possible

As soon as I find the bug, I'll go to GitHub in tears to point out the problem to the mod developers.

It's in my best interest that other people don't complain about my build that it doesn't work or has problems. 🥺

[grizzled lava]

yeah I get that, sorry about the confusion

BadAssCompany 1.1.2 is uploading now

and it's up #thunderstore-releases message

to be fair, this is the last major backend update we have planned for now, so the api itself should be pretty stable for now

[crystal nimbus]

Great! Thanks for the quick fix ❤️

👉 👈

[grizzled lava]

[digital jungle]

Hey, I'm the author of OpenBodyCams and I've encountered a little issue with your MoreCompany compatibility patch.

In my mod, I patch MoreCompany to spawn the cosmetics on the local player rather than deleting them as it does normally. However, I've found out that entering third person mode in LethalEmotesAPI also spawns the cosmetics on the player, but it appears to also delete the existing cosmetics. Is there a specific reason that needs to be done? If the CosmeticApplication component is already attached then it should be immediately usable, shouldn't it?

[crystal nimbus]

@grizzled lava We need you.

[crystal nimbus]

@grizzled lava Badass and API - the key for synchronizing dances does not work

[grizzled lava]

no particular reason, I did it because I was copying what was done for the masked enemy's cosmetic stuff

[grizzled lava]

https://github.com/notnotnotswipez/MoreCompany/blob/master/MoreCompany/MimicPatches.cs#L32

[digital jungle]

gotcha, I think it's not necessary to do that here, the player cosmetics can't change during the game so they shouldn't need to be refreshed like the ones on mimics

[grizzled lava]

right, makes sense

just fact checking with you, this seems to make sense to me, and works in game

just making sure that doesn't conflict with anything you have

[digital jungle]

I did work around the issue by just ensuring that my references to the cosmetics isn't invalidated before the body cam is rendered, but I was initially hoping to avoid the check but it's probably necessary to keep it

[grizzled lava]

yeah I'm still gonna get a fix out incase anyone else has similar issues with my old setup

[digital jungle]

yeah, that seems fine to me, although I would tend to avoid setting active to false since reactivating game objects is perhaps the slowest thing I can do in my camera callbacks

idk if that's what your disable function would do

[grizzled lava]

I never set it to false, but I found when the player first spawns in they are in fact set to false

my disable function does a bad, but the comment speaks for itself

everyone I've talked to has just said to put stuff on layer 23

I wish we had a better standard

since 23 is for invis enemies

[digital jungle]

I've been using forceRenderingOff in the renderers actually

but I may have to resort to that too if I see issues

[grizzled lava]

if I set forceRenderingOff, would that not break stuff like mirror mod though?

[digital jungle]

if you use a camera callback to set it and then revert it similar to my mod it wouldn't, but honestly I don't know how much overhead adding multiple callbacks for before/after camera causes

so perhaps it is preferable to stick with layers for now

[grizzled lava]

we really just need a "invis cosmetics" layer tbh

[digital jungle]

as I understand it, there are only two free layers in the game, which is quite rough

I used layer 31 for something only visible in the body cam, but even that may conflict with some mods for all I know

[grizzled lava]

bowomp

[digital jungle]

I was wondering about this, do you mean that the cosmetics spawn for the local player without my mod as well?

[grizzled lava]

just uhh, letting you know

[digital jungle]

I see, that's rough

all right, guess I'm switching to that layer as well lmao

[grizzled lava]

yeah... it's suffering really

[digital jungle]

really given that the game has so few unused layers I feel like it might be better if we could all just use the camera callbacks as long as it doesn't have a big overhead, but not sure if that'll happen

[grizzled lava]

and no, the cosmetics only come prespawned it seems like with a few mods like yours or mirror mod, with nothing but emotes installed, it has to create them the first time

[digital jungle]

maybe invis enemies is fine

gotcha, I would assume it must be the mirror mod then, mine starts the cosmeticapplication enabled

(with force rendering off at the moment, unfortunately)

[grizzled lava]

the main issue imo, is less that invis cosmetics get put on layer 23, and more than instead of switching them to layer 0, people are changing the cameras to render layer 23

[digital jungle]

right

for mirror mod I think that's fine probably? since it is only in the ship

not sure where invis enemies would appear

[grizzled lava]

and I think that is part of the mod itself, that oops, you can see the girl behind you

like I think that is intended

hmmm

[digital jungle]

ahh, so she stays where she spawned but invisible after she interacts?

[grizzled lava]

well specifically she stays invisible until she is hunting you

hmmm, wondering about an idea, obviously you have no control over this but I'm just spitballing

MoreCompany has a system where you as a mod dev can "create a request" to render local players cosmetics, and if there are any active requests, the local cosmetics are all rendered on layer 0

at any point you can tell MoreCompany you are done with the request, and if no requests are remaing, the local cosmetics get moved back to layer 23

[digital jungle]

that could work, I definitely think it would be good if MoreCompany was prescribing the way to show/hide the local cosmetics, but it specifically has to be something that Unity is happy to switch during the render pipeline rather than only the update stage

I had some issues with enabling/disabling the CosmeticApplication in the camera callbacks

[digital jungle]

ah shit, I just realized you're also recursively setting the layer for cosmetics

are layers not inherited? edit: answered this for myself, that's unfortunate though

[grizzled lava]

yeah I thought they were too honestly, but I found myself having to loop through all children and set their layer else it didn't work

makes sense I guess

otherwise the scene's gameobject would set the layer for everything

making layers useless

[digital jungle]

wait the layers would reset?

what was it setting them to and why?

[grizzled lava]

hm? which part are we referring to rn

[digital jungle]

this

[grizzled lava]

oh I meant that as a reason for layers not effecting children in unity

cause ultimately every game object converges into one parent

[digital jungle]

ah, gotcha

they could just make an "actual" layer of -1 indicate that it should inherit though

they have 2^32-32 possible values that could indicate the inheritance state lol

unless of course they use an 8-bit integer on the native side

I wish they had used 64 bits for the layer masks though, then we wouldn't be in this mess

[grizzled lava]

this just kinda goes out to whoever made DacneEmotesBundle (I think it's supposed to be spelled DanceEmotesBundle) cause I don't see a discord tag, please mark your songs as DMCA 🙏

if you ever search your mod up

[grizzled lava]

very important mod in the works

[crystal nimbus]

OMG

What kind of mod? Or is it a bug?

[narrow geyser]

new mod leveraging the emote api

[crystal nimbus]

Can I have a name? Or is it for testing?

[narrow geyser]

still in development

[grizzled lava]

Literally just set it up this morning

Well, enemies have had emote skeletons for a few weeks now but no one was doing anything with them so

[grizzled lava]

enemies can now default dance when you die lol https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gemumoddo/EnemyInteractions/

goes hand in hand with the fix for badasscompany to make it not eat 3GB of your ram lol

I need to get a hold of all custom enemy mods so I can give them emote skeletons

I know the herobrine mod exists, not sure what else really excluding mimics cause I don't think that will ever work since it's just kind of a blob for like 2 seconds and then it's gone

and as funny as it would be to make the doors dance, I feel that would just ruin the enemy as a whole

[crystal nimbus]

LOL

[hazy dew]

can you add your own dances?

[crystal nimbus]

they have a connection with Badass dance

You need to write there to add

[hazy dew]

I know, I mean from my mod. I have a mod with my dances

[crystal nimbus]

Например какие?

[hazy dew]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mertvybasein/NekiyManEmotes/

[hazy dew]

Аж на русском заговорил

[crystal nimbus]

Я и есть русский)

Есть же Badass
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gemumoddo/BadAssCompany/

Лучше бы с ними сотрудничал и внедрял туда эмоции

Поддержка больше с ними

[hazy dew]

Знаю, но мои анимации по больше части для своих

Простенькие анимки)

[crystal nimbus]

Ну круто чё

Только те анимации уже есть в том моде если не ошибаюсь

часть уж точно

[hazy dew]

Да я в курсе. Я их добавлял до того как они появились в Badass

[crystal nimbus]

а, ну тогда ок

[hazy dew]

В следующей обнове я из уберу, тк чтоб не конфликтовали

Буду добавлять что то новое

[grizzled lava]

Currently setup so emote devs can add their dances via a (probably soft but you do you) dependency

I'm thinking it might just make more sense for users themselves to be able to set it but idk yet

[hazy dew]

Okey, so, if it’s not a secret. can you tell me the principle of the mod?

[grizzled lava]

Like what's the point of the mod? Sorry I misunderstood

[hazy dew]

I want to talk about how the mod works

[grizzled lava]

Ah right

Well I'm currently walking to my car to drive to work so I can't give a super detailed explanation, but it really boils down to

Create a soft dependency on the mod within your own emote mod

Pick out your emotes that you want to add and either add them to
onKillEmotes
Or
intermittentEmoteList

But I can make a quick video on it once I get back from work

[hazy dew]

that would be nice

[grizzled lava]

Oh but for some info (sorry if this is incorrect I had to use Google translate lol) idk why you thought BadAssCompany added emotes you had when the last time it added emotes was before your mod released, but more importantly, with the new import system BadAssCompany uses, duplicate emotes can exist no problem as long as at least one side (in this case BAC) is using the new import method

So you don't need to remove any duplicates unless you feel compelled to

So what I made last night works on it's own principles, but yes it includes the masked enemies cause emotes API supports all the base enemies to emote (technically not really the slime but what are ya gonna do)

I wanna get to adding emote skeletons for modded enemies in the future as well

[hazy dew]

I just don’t see the point in having the kind of emotions that you have in mod. It's the same if I chewed your gum 🙂

[hazy dew]

@grizzled lava an error occurs during build
Error:

Could not find type or namespace name 'EnemyAI' (possibly missing using directive or assembly reference)

[grizzled lava]

Uhh, what did you change on your end?

Seems like it's attempting to load game files

Which theoretically you shouldn't need to do for just emotes

[hazy dew]

I added my emotes

[hazy dew]

damn, how can I add my emotes?

[grizzled lava]

Oh to the interactions mod?

[hazy dew]

yeah

[grizzled lava]

Uhh, I'll be home in a bit, I'll test it out on an example mod to see what needs to be done

Could be something I missed

[grizzled lava]

full flow of me trying it on the base example repo, didn't throw any errors so I think you might have accidentally referenced the game in some way

oh I forgot in that video, but also make sure to declare a soft dependency

[hazy dew]

not found

[grizzled lava]

switch that to aaron thunderstore

[hazy dew]

oh, I'm sorry

[grizzled lava]

all good

it's not exactly well stated

[hazy dew]

i'm build

@grizzled lava By the way, after your update the bad ass animations not working

[grizzled lava]

oh?

like emotes just don't play?

[hazy dew]

yeah

[grizzled lava]

even in singleplayer, or specifically multiplayer?

[hazy dew]

singleplayer

[grizzled lava]

I just setup a new profile and it seems fine, maybe you need to update, one of the first versions after the emote backend change didn't work very well

[hazy dew]

maybe

[hazy dew]

yeah it works

[grizzled lava]

That's awesome

Glad it worked out

[grizzled lava]

real W decision

would get an omegalul out of me but we can't use emotes here :(

[hazy dew]

Why?

[crystal nimbus]

https://github.com/cmooref17/Lethal-Company-TooManyEmotes/issues/42
@grizzled lava Is this a problem due to BodyCam? @digital jungle

[crystal nimbus]

What could it be?

[hazy dew]

Ты уверен что проблема в боди камере?

[crystal nimbus]

Yes

Already solved the problem

@digital jungle and I tested everything

[hazy dew]

Замени на HelmetCamera, более простая и не конфликтует

[crystal nimbus]

No, it's a shitty camera

She eats up a lot of resources

Don't you understand?

[hazy dew]

Не особо, там можно снизить Настройки чтоб не съедало фпс

Лично у меня на с кучу модами на среднем железе не было жёстких просадов

[crystal nimbus]

well, stay with this mod)

[hazy dew]

Я имею виду что он менее геморный чем аналоги, вот и всё) Я не говорю что ты обязан ставить его, просто, советую его

А ставить или нет это уже тебе решать

[crystal nimbus]

)

[tender sinew]

Was bodycams causing this error spam? Do you have an idea on what the incompatibility might have been exactly? In the screenshot, it looked like the errors came out of my method.

[crystal nimbus]

You need to contact the developer of this mod

He has already released updates and there are no problems

But there's a problem...

I don't understand what exactly he's swearing at.

There were no problems in the game, he just swears at the cosmetics

In all cases

[crystal nimbus]

@digital jungle

[grizzled lava]

yeah idk, I think it might have been a temporary issue because as you said, with everything up to date it's no longer throwing errors like this

[shadow marsh]

Does this look like an Emotes API issue? Stack trace: System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T].get_Item (System.Int32 index) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0009) (wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::SpawnEnemyGameObject>(RoundManager,UnityEngine.Vector3,single,int,EnemyType) RoundManager.SpawnEnemyOnServer (UnityEngine.Vector3 spawnPosition, System.Single yRot, System.Int32 enemyNumber) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0012) SavageCompany.CoilEvent.Update () (at <565b69407cff4c4883746ac55e6718db>:IL_01A0) SavageCompany.GamePatches.RoundUpdatePatch () (at <565b69407cff4c4883746ac55e6718db>:IL_0018) (wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMD<StartOfRound::Update>(StartOfRound) (wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<StartOfRound::Update>?674841190(StartOfRound) EmotesAPI.CustomEmotesAPI.StartOfRoundUpdate (System.Action`1[T] orig, StartOfRound self) (at <736f2fd0ba9e44c3a1ffa4ea1a0e4ef4>:IL_0001) (wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<StartOfRound::Update>?1407469116(StartOfRound) (wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<StartOfRound::Update>?-1934108510(StartOfRound) LethalThings.Patches.Debug.StartOfRound_Update (On.StartOfRound+orig_Update orig, StartOfRound self) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/Patches/Debug.cs:221) (wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<StartOfRound::Update>?207253584(StartOfRound)

I've reached out to Lethalthings already

I've submitted a note to savage company, not sure if it is related to this mod or not

Goes apeshit in the log

I may have grabbed wrong snippet

Nvm, it's in that stack trace

[grizzled lava]

can I get a full log?

[shadow marsh]

1 moment

Discord is having a stroke

ok..

It won't let me upload

1 sec

This is most up to date log

[grizzled lava]

do you perchance have a mod list?

specifically a code

[shadow marsh]

Sure

018d47da-b82a-c3b7-b295-22ae7b46bb53

seems reproducable on landing specifically

OK, I lied
Maybe not on landing, but perhaps when masked are trying to spawn?

[grizzled lava]

yeah the error indicates enemy spawning

[shadow marsh]

I believe someone else MAY have indicated this to the dev of the mask mod

not looking at name of mod atm

[hazy dew]

@grizzled lava wanted to know something. The last line is responsible for the volume of the sound?

EmoteOptions.onKillEmotes.Add(new EnemyEmote("The Real Slim Shady", .8f));

[grizzled lava]

that's for how long it will play

in seconds

so you can use looping emotes effectively without enemies infinitely emoting

[hazy dew]

lol

[shadow marsh]

I reached out to Masked Enemy overhaul and they still got the same log errors without lethalapi enabled - I think it may be savage company

[crystal nimbus]

Sometimes any monsters taunt with a flash, it's so funny and weird...

I can't wait to see the config for each monster

[shy lichen]

SavageCompany trying to make spawns but getting conflicted by other spawning methods (I think)

[shadow marsh]

I've disabled Lethalthings, MaskedMod(s), EmotesAPI

Unless it's conflicting with AC?

@shy lichen

[grizzled lava]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gemumoddo/Emotes2_And_Knuckles/

new emote pack our team is slowly working on

primarily for stuff we have big drive for, not just stuff people request

[hazy dew]

will they not conflict with other mods?

[red needle]

You can have as many emotesapi packs installed as you want at the same time

[hazy dew]

damn dude you could have added those animations to the bad ass company

[red needle]

We wanted to make a separate pack that is dedicated to quality. Badasscompany although it has many quality emotes we have ripped or even animated ourselves, we wanted a separate pack for our emotes we animate and customize that go above and beyond

[patent fern]

?modder 151165627665612801

[torn terrace]

Added role Modder to tillytanker

Yay! @stray summit you've been assigned the modder role. Head to #role-picker to select which type of modding you're interested and active in.

[grizzled lava]

thanks for that, last I checked we couldn't pin messages

[grizzled lava]

oh ye, @patent fern @red needle worked on animations for this, and they desire the modder role, I think I'm supposed to ping you about that?

if not my b

[patent fern]

?modder 100291915672469504

[torn terrace]

Added role Modder to github.com

Yay! @red needle you've been assigned the modder role. Head to #role-picker to select which type of modding you're interested and active in.

[red needle]

[grizzled lava]

[patent fern]

[narrow geyser]

[stray summit]

https://tenor.com/view/rjumen-laugh-man-cool-nice-perfect-gif-23675313

[crystal nimbus]

Why does he mention the Emotes API?

What is this connected with?

#1189688386701762732 message

[grizzled lava]

99% sure that's another case of us using that function for stuff, and that function is breaking at some other point, so we are in the stack trace

[narrow geyser]

Unfortunately IL patches kind of do that

It's unfortunate that so much is packed into PlayerControllerB

[grizzled lava]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Nunchuk/All_Emotes_API_Emote_Packs/

Just put this together, nothing really special, just contains all existing EmoteAPI emote packs, and unlike most modpacks, this is actually labeled as a modpack

because sending people https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gemumoddo/LethalEmotesAPI/dependants/ is getting worse and worse every day cause there is almost a full page of unlabled modpacks by now

[calm stone]

I'm having an issue where I can only load one emote pack at a time (badass company, broiilers, etc.)
I'm pretty sure the console is saying it's loading the other packs too, but only the emotes from the first pack loaded are available. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this happens? (how to fix it, or incompats that cause it?)

[calm stone]

Also ty for doin that, sometimes looking via dependencies is brutal. Now I just need all the emotes in one pack so I can actually load them! lmao

[grizzled lava]

so a couple of the mods which don't use the updated import settings that allow for duplicate emotes have conflicts to some extent

that being said, with a fresh profile with just these, it works fine enough

[grizzled lava]

did you have a profile code I could try? could be something else

[calm stone]

Sorry I don't, because of a few mods I used in the past I did everything manually to make it work. I'm overdue for making a profile code tho lol.
I also might be able to get a console log tomorrow.
Also ty!

[grizzled lava]

oh

if you are manually installing

make sure every mod has it's own folder

inside of plugins

like so

[calm stone]

OHHHHHH I see! Do the assets go in the assetbundles folder at all then?

[grizzled lava]

yes

like any mod you download

[calm stone]

So every dll goes in it's own folder like that, but every asset thingy goes in the assetbundles? Thank you!

I knew it wasn't an incompatibility, based on the logs it was like some weird loading thing.

[grizzled lava]

when you download a zip from thunderstore

take everything in that and put it in it's own folder

basically

[calm stone]

ahhhhhhhhhh like that, thank you for that lil video!

[grizzled lava]

new update out, fixes duplicate emotes from packs that use the deprecated import system from super breaking, now they will only kinda break

[small ginkgo]

best fucking mod thank you so much for it <3

[sour cloud]

hey, im trying to make some emotes for me and my friends, and im finding that the animations in game aren't line up properly compared to in blender and unity (eg, the hand aren't touching in game, but they are in unity)
is this something i can fix?

[red needle]

this is a me problem not a you problem, I bungled up the rig but will be releasing a new version of it that has the position data for the arms fixed soon™️

I have just been busy binging persona 3 reload so I haven't gotten it done yet

[grizzled lava]

well, the problem stemmed from the export missing a bone

and it just kinda cascaded from there

bottom line, I would hold off on doing intricate hand animations for the time being, we hope to get an updated model out sometime this week or so, which will map 1:1

[red needle]

I'll try to have the updated rig out by tomorrow afternoon

[grizzled lava]

HOLY SHIT

we stay winning

documented proof

that gltf export is better than FBX

as you can see the z-fighting everywhere, we finally have a perfect export of the model

only possible by switching off of the official FBX exporter

[grizzled lava]

1:1 model coming soonTM

fbx is a cancer on this world

change my mind

[red needle]

i cant because I agree with you

[red needle]

just a heads up it might not be released until some time tomorrow since we spent all day trying to troubleshoot rigmapping issues

[narrow wraith]

please let me know when its ready

[red needle]

will do, we have been working on it for the past 12 hours trying to get it hammered out as quickly as possible

[narrow wraith]

👍 gl and ty

[narrow geyser]

emote

[grizzled lava]

me too?

oh yeah

just an update on the better rig

[red needle]

[deep inlet]

(they are going insane, its okay) (as in snowjays deleted message)

[red needle]

oh yeah the new rig is basically done

[grizzled lava]

mostly working, just got some stuff to clean up, I think it's going to have another required step if you want the "super accurate" mode, aka I'll package in the Avatar that is used in the emote skeleton, because unity loves to just make slightly different Avatars every time you export stuff

[red needle]

unity my beloathed

[deep inlet]

(They've been trying for hours to get a prop to show up in one of our emotes, and it just doesnt show, so they've gone insane)

[deep inlet]

awesome

[grizzled lava]

oh

I need to sleep for work soonish

but just a sanity check

make sure you use HDRP compatible shaders

cause Lethal Company uses HDRP so non-HDRP shaders will not show up in game

[deep inlet]

"thats a crazy sanity check thing to say, thats crazy"

• them

[grizzled lava]

I'm gonna probably end up making a more in depth prop tutorial once I finish Persona 3 Reload

cause I kinda skimmed over it in the general tutorial

[deep inlet]

question when the new rig drops
will emotes have to be reanimated?

[grizzled lava]

most likely not, unless you have made precice emotes that work around the current limitations

everything will essentially move by a few inches

but for 99% of emotes I bet it won't be noticable

[red needle]

all previous emotes will work still however the point of this new rig is for precision emotes so like if you are doing naruto hand emotes or something it will actually show up properly in game

[deep inlet]

ah okay, nice

[red needle]

because currently there is inaccuracy in the translation to ingame as what has been seen prior

[deep inlet]

I only got like, one of those

[red needle]

oh yeah i forgot to reply to this, it will prob drop in the next like 8 or 9 hours or so

once nunchuk is back awake and we get the avatar properly setup

I'm just finishing adding all the nicities to the rig right now as that previous screenshot I sent showed but we need to make sure its still accurate to in-game once I'm finished

[deep inlet]

dayum

[deep inlet]

it shows up 🙏🙏🙏

[red needle]

that image got me so excited for what is to come

[deep inlet]

nah, you should be scared
(we are gonna add awful things)

or 1 awful thing

🚽

[deep inlet]

ITS DONE the insanity has ended

[red needle]

[red needle]

Whenever nunchuk wakes up and has time the new rig will be released like

hopefully in an hour or 2

We just need the avatar for it so it will always show up in game accurately

[red needle]

oh yeah

some features of the new rig will also be being able to see the first person view as we ripped the exact FOV and position from in game, and also being able to see the position an item will appear in the hand.

The orange highlighted cross empty in the 3rd screenshot is where items will appear. If you want to you can also animate it so you can move the held item around in game as part of your animation (like if you wanted the character to do an emote swinging or throwing around the current held item) although it isn't really documented how to at the current moment.

[deep inlet]

oh yeah, i was curious
whats the purpose of the bones that looke like fists?

[remote minnow]

does this mod have a setting where if you're emoting and you move the emote stops?

[narrow geyser]

not currently

and if we were to implement it, it would only ever be client choice to do so

host would not be allowed to override

and our stance won't change

[remote minnow]

i mean i like the mod alot but bruh the moving while emoting is kinda...

aight

[narrow geyser]

of course

if you want it, the mod is open source

[remote minnow]

nah bro i dont even know how to mod haha

thanks for replying tho

aight im out

[red needle]

the fist bone you can scale it to automatically ball the hand into a fist

you can still individually adjust the fingers, but if you want to move all the fingers as a whole you can use that to get a good starting position

also how the fingers are setup, you may have noticed already as this was a feature on the old rig too, is that when you move the root of a finger, the tip will try to follow its bend naturally

[grizzled lava]

@clear igloo @sour cloud just letting you two know since I know both of y'all were trying to get better hand animations LethalEmotesAPI 1.5.0 is out now. It contains the updated avatar which is probably as close to perfect I can get it with the humanoid translation layer. Similarly, with the new chadrig, what you see in Unity is what you get in game which is super important IMO. No animations need to be updated, because for the most part, the only change is the hands changing position slightly, but it's much much more accurate now. There is a slightly new system to import the animations from the ChadRig, which is important since you are copying the avatar I use for the emote skeleton itself

ChadRig 2.0.0 and the ChadRigAvatar can be found here https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/tree/main/ChadRigFolder

sorry it wasn't like this from the start, we genuinely didn't notice the discrepancies until the last couple weeks

[deep inlet]

damn thats crazy, ive only been doing it individually lmao

[red needle]

a good tip I have for getting natural finger bend when doing individual fingers is clicking just the root of a finger and then hittting R + Z + Z

this will rotate the bone on the "local" Z axis

the thumb is the only finger this trick doesn't work for due to the weird opposable nature of thumbs

[deep inlet]

I typically just have it set to individual origins + local
than rotate from the middle finger
:P

[red needle]

yeah that does the same/a very similar thing I believe, just through UI options

[deep inlet]

I assume bones have near the same names
So animations can easily be copied onto the new rig?

(in blender)

[grizzled lava]

I believe the only exception is the head bone is now called spine.004 (to match the avatar of the emote skeleton, which matches the names of the in game rig)

uhh, there might actually be some other name changes thinking about it, let me check

[red needle]

well the rig has a different bone order entirely as well in blender, you might have some luck copy pasting poses in blender but no promises on compatibility

blender sometimes just works for copying pose data if the names match but other times it just refuses. Again the old rig still works perfectly fine but it is imperfect in its hand positioning.

Keep in mind for when/if you play animations on enemies like bracken or other models it won't line up perfectly with positions on anything but the Scavenger

[narrow geyser]

to clarify on this because I forgot, we have a setting that devs set per an emote to lock player movement, TF2Emotes uses them for some of the emotes

[red needle]

yeah, locking the player in place is a creative decision for the dev of any given modpack to make. Our creative decision with BadAssCompany is to allow players the freedom to move if they desire to. If players don't want to move while emoting we determined that they can just hit the stop emoting button before moving

there are some emotes we decided were worth locking in place like "duck this one" and the one rune mentioned "Rancho Relaxo" under our TF2Emotes release

[hazy dew]

@grizzled lava Do you know if there is any add-on for blender for motion capture?

[grizzled lava]

I'm sure there is, but I've never looked into it

[red needle]

there are a few, it depends on the mocap system you use

[hazy dew]

@grizzled lava

[Error  : Unity Log] KeyNotFoundException: The given key 'OMFG Hello' was not present in the dictionary.
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].get_Item (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_001E)
EmoteNetworker.SyncEmoteToClients (System.UInt64 playerId, System.String animation, System.Int32 pos) (at <b51f6a370a694a1caf7be5f0658ecbb5>:IL_002A)
EmoteNetworker.SyncEmote (System.UInt64 playerId, System.String animation, System.Int32 pos) (at <b51f6a370a694a1caf7be5f0658ecbb5>:IL_0017)
EmotesAPI.CustomEmotesAPI.PlayAnimation (System.String animationName, BoneMapper mapper, System.Int32 pos) (at <b51f6a370a694a1caf7be5f0658ecbb5>:IL_004A)
EnemyInteractions.EnemyKillHooks.OnKillPlayer (System.Action`5[T1,T2,T3,T4,T5] orig, GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB self, UnityEngine.Vector3 bodyVelocity, System.Boolean spawnBody, CauseOfDeath causeOfDeath, System.Int32 deathAnimation) (at <435f99596b7745718ce2610027e7b6d1>:IL_00CD)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::KillPlayer>?-570545432(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,UnityEngine.Vector3,bool,CauseOfDeath,int)
MaskedPlayerEnemy+<killAnimation>d__102.MoveNext () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_03D3)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

Is it possible to solve this problem? The error appears after I am killed by an enemy with a mask and I get an error and I don't die

[grizzled lava]

well first off, I should update enemy interactions to safely handle missing emotes instead of breaking other stuff

but from your side, since you updated to use the new import system

all of these need to have your GUID + __ appended to it since that is how they are stored in memory now to avoid conflicts with other emote mods

so it would be "YourGUIDHere__OMFG Hello"

[hazy dew]

Damn it, I need to fix this right away

[grizzled lava]

Alternatively, what I would suggest insted of
"YourGUIDHere__OMFG Hello"

you can do

$"{PluginGUID}__OMFG Hello"

which will auto pull whatever you set PluginGUID to

[hazy dew]

thanks

[grizzled lava]

yep, sorry for not communicating that properly before

tbh it's been new, having people actually use emotes api lol

when I did this in ror2 there were only like 2 people ever who created emotes for it beyond our core team

I pushed out a fix for enemy interactions so that you will at least die properly when there is an error there, but yeah I would suggest hitting that ctrl + h really quick so that your emotes play properly

[hazy dew]

Yeah, it's working.

[deep inlet]

for animating in blender
I went to convert an old version of the emote to the new rig
changed all bone names on the (1.6.1) rig to line up with the new(2.0.2).
but the two rigs have a lot of differences.
mainly because the old rig was scaled to 0.2 (I think)
so positioning is completely off.

but, there is a chance im doing something wrong
or, i;ve misinterpurated instructions

[red needle]

There are a good handful of differences. Unfortunately if animations don't copy over cleanly there isn't a ton I can do :/

You don't need to use the new rig however, like if you are just trying to keep animation source files its fine to still have old versions of the rig, they still work they just don't show a 1 to 1 perfect representation of in game while animating

[deep inlet]

okay 👍

[deep inlet]

awesomeness
(is there a way to manually raise the camera. as it doesnt line up perfectly from blender)

[red needle]

I can take a look at it with nunchuk tonight to see how far off it may be

[clear igloo]

ayyy thats awesome I'll take a look!

[hazy dew]

@grizzled lava I would like to know if there is any way to reduce the time to play animation in EnemyInteractions?

[grizzled lava]

Make them more frequent or make them last less time?

[hazy dew]

Make them more frequent

In general, it would be more convenient to create a simple config.

[grizzled lava]

I can probably set that up later once I'm home, should be pretty easy

[red needle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamOrnamentalFrFR/UntitledEmotesPack/

new emote pack

[grizzled lava]

Guess I should remove the example before more mods just don't delete it

[crystal nimbus]

@grizzled lava

EnemyInteractions

[grizzled lava]

[crystal nimbus]

How will they dance without Badass Company?

Are there any dances built into it?

[grizzled lava]

no

[crystal nimbus]

oh, that's it, I see

I'm sorry

[grizzled lava]

but since it's not just us

I didn't want to force people to download BaC if they only for example, want Nekiy emotes

but yeah BadAssCompany and NekiyManEmotes both implement enemy interactions

I don't think any other emote mods do at the moment

[crystal nimbus]

Got it

In general, emotions eat up productivity a lot...

dropped from 200 to 140fps

[grizzled lava]

uhh

I can do another look into it

but I feel like we've narrowed it down pretty well

do you have a mod code you've been running with?

[crystal nimbus]

Yes, he's huge...

I'll finish a couple of tests now, I'll post an option

need to finish the report

[crystal nimbus]

018daa30-6d0a-c8d9-bf22-a500b7a299e1

With the API disabled and all the emotions attached to it - I had 220fps
With enabled it dropped to 160-170fps
-22% productivity

[grizzled lava]

those numbers, is that just you idling in the ship with no one else?

[crystal nimbus]

Yes

If you go out into the world

It's a little worse there

In the world I usually run if the vanilla generation of the complex

200-230

But with emotions 140-150

Weak PCs are not taken out at all

And it also works with CullFactor xD

[grizzled lava]

So on my machine,

without any EmotesAPI stuff, I get 75-85 fps when walking around the ship

and with the items in your pack enabled (so badasscompany, tf2, and toothless dance) I get 70-80 fps

with only EmotesAPI turned on and no emote packs loaded, I also get 70-80 fps

so there is some impact, which I can look into later

but like, it's really hard to tell from my end when it's only like a 5 fps average drop

so it's kinda hard to actually debug

[crystal nimbus]

I agree

Have you checked with my build?

[grizzled lava]

yeah that's what I used

so when I say "only emotesAPI"

[crystal nimbus]

Very strange...

[grizzled lava]

I technically meant your modpack

• whatever I changed from the emotes side

[crystal nimbus]

Then I don't understand anything

[grizzled lava]

also my CPU is kinda shit

which is probably why I get way less than you baseline

[crystal nimbus]

I have
⚙️ CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
⚙️ GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 4070 VENTUS 2X OC
⚙️ Motherboard: GIGABYTE B550M AORUS ELITE
⚙️ RAM: Kingston Fury Beast RGB (2x16 GB)

Perhaps the L3 cache decides

But I'm not sure what's the matter

I don't know many people with weak PCs.

I would like to have a tester with a weak car

To check everything

But there's no way

[grizzled lava]

Ryzen 7 3800x and a 3090 for me

so that's the main difference I would assume

either way

I can take another look into it once I finish persona

but I can't promise anything cause the margins are so small on my machine

it's hard to tell what's real and what is just "my cpu decided to run faster this time"

[crystal nimbus]

No big deal, I'm just trying to find any conflicts or underperformance

I spent 3 hours analyzing 140 popular mods

To check each one and write to 5 developers to optimize a couple of points

It's much better now

Late Game and Lethal Things are also annoying, as are possibly LLL and LE in RAM, but that's another story

[tawny eagle]

Hey what's up guys

I am looking for some advice/direction for custom player animations. I'm not really looking to create an emote mode, but rather, some custom animations that are controlled by player input.

[grizzled lava]

so, are you looking to use emotesapi, or are you looking to do your own thing, I can guide you in either direction

[tawny eagle]

Someone recommended using EmotesAPI but it would be nice to do my own thing. I just want it to be compatible with other mods and not break shit. Also, I have done some very basic game development in the past on Unity and I also have a little bit of experience with Java (pretty sure C# is similar to Java).

I don't really know what I'm doing at all but I'm trying my best to understand and learn this stuff. I already have a mod environment set up in VisualStudio and I was able to successfully add References and code mess around with some very basic TerminalAPI stuff.

When it comes to directly modding the game without an API, I am pretty lost. My idea is to create a controller that players can enable which allows them to throw punches. I want to add some fun logic and animations for the punches.

I would love to have some guidance or even collaborate with someone on this. I have a lot more of a refined idea (which I can go into detail if you'd like).

[grizzled lava]

well I'm not the best at teaching, so I'm gonna follow this up to a link to our github which you can look through at your leisure.

But ultimately what emotes api does (and you could do as well) is it has a seperate animator which is effectively a duplicate of the base animator (in this case, the scavenger) which has no mesh, but animates all the same. When setting this new animator up, you would want to create constraints which, when turned on, in LateUpdate, take the original bones, and position/rotate them to the position/rotation of your new animator's bones (you could do scale too but that is risky so I advise against it)

https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI

as an analogy, my favorite one is imagine you have a body inside of an iron man suit. under normal circumstances the body (the base animator) is what is moving around. But when you want your emotes to play, the body goes limp and the suit (your custom animator) is what is actually doing the moving, but in doing so, the body moves as well

the main advantage of this system, is that by moving the bones to where you want them in LateUpdate, you can effectively replace the base animator without ever touching it, which a lot of mods do and causes various issues

[tawny eagle]

It sounds like a fairly intricate system and could probably help me quite a bit. My only question is; does your API conflict with other emote mods like TooManyEmotes?

[grizzled lava]

nope

[tawny eagle]

good to know, thank you

oh, also, is this 100% required?

[grizzled lava]

like for the animation system itself, or for LethalEmotesAPI

[tawny eagle]

I just see that the API has InputUtils and LethalConfig listed as required. Just wondering if it is absolutely necessary to install LethalConfig in order for your API to function properly.

[grizzled lava]

It is, because otherwise people will get the idea that they have to restart for config changes

which they don't

genuinely curious, is there any reason not to have it?

[tawny eagle]

Honestly, there is no real reason other than keeping mod counts down for a modpack 😄

[grizzled lava]

well, the answer is technically yes because in code it's setup as a hard dependency, and while technically no it's not needed, it just makes sense from our view to benefit users and also remove all the questions I would get about "how do I change my settings for this"

especially since it has like

0 performance impact

[tawny eagle]

you have a fair point there

Oh, I do have another important question when it comes to animating. How would you recommend I set up a test environment to create and test animations on the player model?

[grizzled lava]

honestly, just a unity project with the player model in it lol

not much else needed

https://docs.unity3d.com/2017.1/Documentation/Manual/class-PlayableDirector.html

this can help with previewing animations though

[tawny eagle]

I used AssetRipper to pull some models and stuff from the game but I can't seem to convert and export them to FBX or anything like that. I am sorta new to some of this stuff

[grizzled lava]

fbx is cancer and should be avoided at all costs, unity has prefab to FBX exporter available but I highly recommend using a GLTF exporter instead

pulling up my project now as I forgor the name of what we used

[tawny eagle]

I tried to use the FBX exporter but for some reason, the context selection for "Export to FBX" was missing no matter what I did

[grizzled lava]

UnityGLTF

https://github.com/KhronosGroup/UnityGLTF

that's what we used

[tawny eagle]

Did you also use an asset ripping tool to access game files, if so, which one?

[grizzled lava]

AssetRipper same as you

[tawny eagle]

oh nice

what is the difference between this and the one without 001??

just a duplicate?

[grizzled lava]

uhhh

that's not what you want

afaik

[tawny eagle]

oh

[grizzled lava]

there should be just a Player prefab

[tawny eagle]

welp

one sec

uhhh

[grizzled lava]

see if you can find this one

[grizzled lava]

uhh

something is probably off

[tawny eagle]

hmm

[grizzled lava]

for starters

what is that + button

[tawny eagle]

I honestly don't know. I've never used AssetRipper before.

[grizzled lava]

hmm

you are on unity 2022.3.9f1 right?

[tawny eagle]

might be a bit out of date

[grizzled lava]

yeah...

you kinda need to use the same version lethal company is using

so 2022.3.9f1

[tawny eagle]

y'know, that probably explains a lot of my problems

just really annoyed at Unity rn because I checked for updates before I started and it said it was up to date lmao

So what happens if I have a version newer than what LC uses?

[grizzled lava]

um

idk

just don't?

https://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2022.3.9

[tawny eagle]

gotcha lol

[narrow geyser]

assets you make in a newer version will fail to load in older versions

[tawny eagle]

I see I see

alrighty, got it installed and about to test it out

[grizzled lava]

probably that one

[tawny eagle]

For some reason, our assets look different

[grizzled lava]

if you open the prefab what's it look like

[grizzled lava]

uhh, not sure why yours has the map dot, but that's otherwise correct

honestly yours might be more complete

[tawny eagle]

So the way they set up the minimap dot is pretty cool. Looks like there is an object attatched to the player and it's modeled in 3d but renders in 2d on the minimap

[grizzled lava]

so once you have this installed, go into the prefab and remove the LOD group as it breaks exports

and then just right click it and

oh, you might need to remove all the broken scripts to enable saving

or fix them

but you are just doing animations so I would just remove them

[grizzled lava]

looks correct to me

[tawny eagle]

Which objects are required to be attached to a player to work on animations?

just trying to de-clutter

so whatever I can remove

[grizzled lava]

uhh, I feel like you already deleted the first person arms

so unless you didn't need those

...

[tawny eagle]

oh whoops

[grizzled lava]

I mean personally I don't use them

out of preference but uhh

[tawny eagle]

I will need them

[grizzled lava]

everything else is correct I think

[tawny eagle]

I did this and now I can't seem to re-import it into Unity

am I missing a step here?

[narrow geyser]

you copied the .blend file into unity?

[grizzled lava]

specifically

import it into blender

[tawny eagle]

ahh

gotcha

[grizzled lava]

then you can save that, and you will have a .blend file

[tawny eagle]

okay, thank you

[grizzled lava]

or whatever format works for you

[grizzled lava]

uhh, did you remove the LOD script?

[tawny eagle]

yes

and I removed the LODs

I'll give it another try

[grizzled lava]

did you get any errors when exporting from unity?

[tawny eagle]

if it doesn't work, would and of you mind providing the file?

[grizzled lava]

I mean

I guess we could have started with that lol

from what I've heard zeekers is cool with that

[tawny eagle]

the project goes into safe mode when opening now, wtf unity lol

[grizzled lava]

as long as you don't distribute his code

https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/blob/main/ChadRigFolder/UnsavedTrashs_ChadRigTM2.0.2_ScavEdition.blend

lol

it's already on our github

idk

I wasn't thinking earlier

oh

but

technically we don't have the first person arms since for our purposes we just have them match all the time

let me see if I can find a more unaltered model

[tawny eagle]

oh

thank you for helping me out btw

I'm desperately trying to learn all this stuff. I have some fun ideas

[grizzled lava]

uhhh

well

just checking my oldest thing made after doing the basic export from unity and I had already removed the first person stuff

so uhh

[tawny eagle]

I'll try everything again

and hopefully not mess it up

[tawny eagle]

I think I got it

[grizzled lava]

[tawny eagle]

Can I remove some of these attatched objects?

pretty sure I can remove ThrowPropPosition

[grizzled lava]

yeah probably

realistically anything you don't need

but I would save a copy now

as a backup

[tawny eagle]

hmm

strange

The metarig contains all the parts which are meant to animate, right?

because I can't get parts of the character to actually move. It just seems to move this

[grizzled lava]

um

[tawny eagle]

oh wait

[grizzled lava]

if you're making animations

do that in blender

just

save yourself the sanity

don't animate in unity lol

[tawny eagle]

thank you for the heads up

I am so used to other programs and blender is just so complex

I can barely move my damn camera around lmao

[red needle]

blender my beloved

[deep inlet]

good thing for moving the camera
press shift + ~
itll set you into an fps mode

(for blender that is)

[red needle]

I much prefer default blender camera operations

Alt middle click to define the center of rotation where you click

Middle click to rotate

Alt+middle click swipe to snap to nearest orthographic cardinal angle

Shift middle click to pan

Scroll wheel to zoom

All movement is done with middle click and modifier keys

And if you don't like scroll wheel you can Ctrl + middle click drag to zoom in and out

[hazy dew]

@grizzled lava how do I fix it?

[grizzled lava]

Uhh, not a lot to go on with that image, but it probably boils down to import settings

From blender to unity specifically

[hazy dew]

I fixed it by importing into fbx format.

[fallow scaffold]

Is there a way to auto-populate all available emotes onto the wheel? A config to perform that on round start or a button might be useful.

[narrow geyser]

not currently, may consider it in the future

for now random emote button exists + searching the emote list

not the same thing

but

I really need to get around to improving the UX of the emotes wheel + list

[lone wadi]

I have a question. How do I upload a modpack with configs that uses this without making it also upload my emote wheels?

[grizzled lava]

um, that's something we haven't really tackled, you could cut it from your config file before making the code and then place it back in, or just have whoever is downloading it just delete your wheels once in game, it's pretty quick unless you have like 20 wheels or something

granted, we have considered a clear wheels button/default wheels option, but none of that exists at the moment

[lone wadi]

Ah ok

Thank you!

[grizzled lava]

yep! sorry for not having a convenient solution :/

[red needle]

one day post UI update hopefully we will

[crystal nimbus]

What is the name of the mod that shows animation of movement, crouching in the HUD image?

Same as BadAss

But only the mechanics of movement, squatting and other things

I saw this mod somewhere, but I can't remember the name

[narrow geyser]

not sure, but LethalEmotesAPI has an api specifically for having the HUD mirror all of your characters movements

[crystal nimbus]

I saw it

I'm not crazy

The movement changed there - when the character runs or crouches

I thought it had something to do with the API

:с

[narrow geyser]

well it might be a mod that hooks into the api and just turns on the full character mirroring

but idk

[crystal nimbus]

I don't know either

I want to find him >.<

I will look for

[red needle]

That is a setting in lethalemotesapi

as long as nunchuk actually pushed the update that adds that setting

[grizzled lava]

Yeah that's just a toggle in emotes API to have that permanently on

[narrow geyser]

optimization isn't a lost art

Live/Current Release:

Optimizations Test Build:

[grizzled lava]

(higher framerate)

[narrow geyser]

(we clicked the "optimize mod" checkbox in unity)

[red needle]

when will y'all add this "stop lagging button" to the mod?

[narrow geyser]

whenever the next release happens

tldr:

• @grizzled lava made a method that was being called in the update event, less expensive.
• I replaced the camera that renders the HUD Emoter with a component that renders the SMR with a CommandBuffer, since cameras in HDRP are really expensive

[crystal nimbus]

ONG

OMG

Is this more productivity???

😯

[narrow geyser]

yes, it's more performance

we haven't released it yet

but we should be able to soon

[crystal nimbus]

My God

I want to test this already

Can I have an exclusive version?

[narrow geyser]

you can

[crystal nimbus]

I've been waiting for a performance patch for a long time, I thought the problem was in my build or something else

[narrow geyser]

we have automatic builds for our main branch

you can download the dev version from here:
https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/actions

click the one at the top of the list

that's under "main"

scroll all the way down

download the thunderstore package

[crystal nimbus]

Have not found...

[narrow geyser]

you will need to sign in to GitHub in order to see it

[crystal nimbus]

is there a direct download link?

[crystal nimbus]

I came in

[narrow geyser]

https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/actions/runs/7950242039/artifacts/1254697081

Let us know if you notice the improvements

[crystal nimbus]

Definitely, I'll check everything now, it's still downloading xd

Added these emotions and tested them on the latest API

It has become much better, as if I was playing without this mod

Minimum FPS eats 4-7

But it's not even noticeable

Great job

Tested on a large pack of Lethal Loners

Thanks again for the work, I’ll check it later with players of 4-8 people

The load will show itself better there

I have a question

@narrow geyser

TME has the same performance problem, I don't know why

And also

When the emotion ends or if it is not cyclical, I hang in this position - until I press "Stop Emotes"

😂