Lethal Emotes API

[grizzled lava]

and press that

[narrow wraith]

i hit ctrl shift f

since im already selected on it

[grizzled lava]

I mean, you might wanna be a bit closer

but that's up to you

[narrow wraith]

ok it didnt work that well

why is he so far to the right

huh

[grizzled lava]

oh, I can see, you are in play mode still

[narrow wraith]

ye

[grizzled lava]

so the changes you made were reverted

when you left play mode

[narrow wraith]

i clicked pause

[grizzled lava]

right

[narrow wraith]

next to play button

[grizzled lava]

still in play mode

[narrow wraith]

how do i exit

[grizzled lava]

until you exit play mode

press the play button

[narrow wraith]

lmao

something like this

seems good

wait is it still in playmode

i unchecked the play

[grizzled lava]

unity should grey stuff out a bit when in play mode

yeah you are fine

[narrow wraith]

ok

its better

but still why is he on the right side

[grizzled lava]

just move the camera again

[narrow wraith]

oh yeah i need to add my new audio

since i remade it

woops

i made it better

but its flawless not yet

wait if i can get the audio from bo3

it would be easy

[grizzled lava]

that's some ripping magic

which people have done

so it's not magic

but I have no idea how to go about it so good luck lol

[narrow wraith]

i have the game

im scared of ripping it because its vac

ik how to rip it

i rather not

i will look at the emote and copy it manually instead

tbh it dont have to be perfectly synced

as long as its decent

the first whip is perfectly sync and nae nae

but the 2nd one

is desynced

fak

maybe i can loop it

this is how it is rn

i gotta take a break gonna play lethal with friends

ty for everything

[grizzled lava]

yep, glad to help!

[small ginkgo]

oh if anyone want to make emotes for this mod a good resource for animations could be vrchat emotes since they're both unity

vrcmods.com is a good resource that i use for emotes in vrchat

[red needle]

Yeah any vrchat emotes work, the unfortunate reality of vrcmods tho is 70% to 90% are uncredited mmd rips

Or other translated to humanoid asset rips so if you are someone who is big on providing source credit be thorough

[narrow wraith]

its actually what i used for both the emotes i made so far

[narrow wraith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iT2xylHXPE the animation is the problem with syncing the audio here @red needle any ideas how i can make it better

i replied to my attatchment

one thing the audio plays too long it might and after the first 2 it falls off sync

due to how the bo3 emote is made it might be better to find another source

[narrow wraith]

any idea on how can i fix this @grizzled lava or i need a new animation/motion

[grizzled lava]

I mean from my perspective, the audio you have already just needs to have the first second or two just cut off

what I would do tbh, is just pull up the audio and a video of your animation in vegas

since that's what you have

and allign the audio and then chop off what doesn't belong

[narrow wraith]

chop off audio only right

not the animation

[grizzled lava]

well

if you allign them

which one starts early?

[narrow wraith]

since i dont know how to do actually edit the animation

hold on im opening up unity

i kinda forgot

id say audio

is early

[grizzled lava]

well again

line them up in vegas

[narrow wraith]

yeah

i dont know what you mean with line them up as i can only edit the audio in vegas

[grizzled lava]

oh you don't have like big vegas

[narrow wraith]

i have this

[grizzled lava]

um

[narrow wraith]

im just looking at the audio in here and trimming it

xD

[grizzled lava]

you know vegas is primarily for video right?

[narrow wraith]

yeah

i have done multiple videos with it

[grizzled lava]

but

[narrow wraith]

i used to do youtube content

but its an animation

not video

huh

or do you mean the video i uploaded

with the audio ?

[grizzled lava]

isn't it the same animation as the one in this?

[narrow wraith]

it is

but the audio isnt in the game

its edited onto it

[grizzled lava]

oh

[narrow wraith]

in the video

xD

[grizzled lava]

well

you might just need better source material then

[narrow wraith]

i guess this can help me

but it might be better to find another one

its a popular dance surely its findable

brb i have to do something irl

[red needle]

I mean its just a matter of aligning the clip times, either add a delay to the start of your animation or cut off the beginning of your audio clip until it lines up

[narrow wraith]

i might have found a good way to do it either that or im scuffing it

we'll see

[narrow wraith]

how can i add delay my animation ?

@grizzled lava ?

unless ur busy

what am i looking at

[grizzled lava]

well assuming your animation is not designed to loop

you just move all of those to the right

[narrow wraith]

move what exactly

[grizzled lava]

by an amount

[narrow wraith]

i dont even know what im looking at

[grizzled lava]

these are all key frames

keys?

uhh

something

[narrow wraith]

oh

[grizzled lava]

I mean personally I would recommend offsetting the audio

cause that would be far easier

[narrow wraith]

well i cant make it work

with the animation

i dont think

the song just dont match

i can match 1 part of the animation then its slower than the animation

ive tried finding how to match it

[grizzled lava]

honestly

sounds like you need better source material then

cause you are only going to suffer more trying to square hole this animation

[narrow wraith]

yeah i think thats it

let me try to find a better animation

the animation is good but it wont sync to the song

found a good motion

but as always its vmd

found a guide on it

think i need blender for this

i think i need a model for doing this

every single file is just vmd when i download a motion

video music data i think is what it means

[grizzled lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zkffR7-6gU

idk this looks like it works?

[narrow wraith]

yeah but i tried clicking n

and its not working

i get a different menu

and i dont even have a model

ok i see how i add a model

but i still dont have one

cant i use him

xD

his guide is mega outdated

there is a addon i can use it seems

[red needle]

Yeah cats blender plugin

Is decent enough at porting anims to vrchat from mmd

There are a few options though

[narrow wraith]

do people just not use blender 4.0

i only see outdated things

nothing new

[grizzled lava]

blender 4.0 came out in november lol

[narrow wraith]

oh

error all day

is my version of blender the problem

i think it worked anyways ?

[grizzled lava]

looks like it worked

[narrow wraith]

new issue

vmd file not showing up

trying to import it

yeah the file just wont show up in software

thats great

[red needle]

I'm almost on my PC

So soon™️ I can truly use my expertise in blender elitism

[narrow wraith]

hahaha

im slowly losing my mind to all these issues

[grizzled lava]

the real solution is to just animate all your animations and compose all your music

[narrow wraith]

right

i have a banger animation and audio even for it but it just had to be vmd

😦

is there rlly not a tool for vmd - unity package

[red needle]

there are actually a few tools

to convert motion data

[narrow wraith]

very outdated

also very outdated

[red needle]

i see cats is a bit older

its been a while since we have converted vmds

let me look at some of the other systems we used

[narrow wraith]

vmd is what i got in 90% of my downloads ?

when i looked for motions

[red needle]

yeah vmd is the standard motion data for MMD

[narrow wraith]

either that or unity package bc of vrcmods

do you know why its not showing my vmd files in the import option ?

i mean i have cats but i dont think its running correctly as it gave a weird error

this

[red needle]

well yeah you might need an older version of blender

to use cats

cats would still work but you would need the right version of blender

[narrow wraith]

maybe its because of the model

what version of blender

[red needle]

well yeah

that model wont work

[narrow wraith]

i dont mind downgrade

can you give me a model to use

[red needle]

get an mmd model

[narrow wraith]

ive never done this before

[red needle]

actually send me the motion data so I can verify it works on current blender

[narrow wraith]

and what blender do i need

ok

[red needle]

and then I can walk you through it

[narrow wraith]

let me add you

since i prob cant send it here

[red needle]

https://tenor.com/view/fair-baron-zemo-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-fair-enough-seems-fair-gif-22912772

[glacial oriole]

is there an emotes mods with custom sound ?

[narrow geyser]

BadAssCompany, TF2Emotes, uhhh quite a few others

[glacial oriole]

thank you 🙂

[narrow geyser]

you can look at mods that depend on LethalEmotesAPI to find what emote mods exist for this

[glacial oriole]

true , i totally missed that

[grizzled lava]

well except for the 10 or so modpacks that are unlabled :/

[narrow wraith]

Thunderstore has a exclude feature

In the search filters

So you can disable modpack as an option

[narrow wraith]

oh you meant like this

well there is 287 packages that depends on it @grizzled lava

luckily you can do that

[grizzled lava]

oh how about that

[narrow wraith]

didnt work though

rip

i need to research for it

[grizzled lava]

right

cause they aren't labeled as modpacks

[narrow geyser]

yeah that's the problem

[narrow wraith]

this kinda worked

but not rlly

[grizzled lava]

that's missing a few real ones too

'

[narrow wraith]

i wish i knew what was out there

i have those two

[grizzled lava]

well if you look for stuff that depends on emotesapi

and just uhh

ignore the modpacks

I guess that's the best

[narrow wraith]

well ignore them with my own eyes you mean

as there is 200 of them

[grizzled lava]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gemumoddo/LethalEmotesAPI/dependants/

there's only a few

[narrow wraith]

why does it show 200 for me

what

[grizzled lava]

I only see this

I think it auto filters out labeled modpacks

[narrow wraith]

oh it lies to me

its not 200

i have every emote mod already then

xD

need to work on my own

i got some ideas

[hazy pebble]

most of them are in the modpacks tab

but they only go to that tab if they're labeled

[narrow wraith]

i want to make 9mm go bang with ui mama loli dance from loli kami

[narrow wraith]

ahh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srjLwgtcxYo

this

for reference

[stray summit]

one of the emote mods has it

[narrow wraith]

Unsaved Trash helped me a lot very greatful of that

no it has loli kami

[stray summit]

chikuwa

[narrow wraith]

not 9mm

its different

[stray summit]

o

[narrow wraith]

i use it already i want specifically 9mm

there is a duplicate emote as well between glizzy and badasscompany

the breakneck one

[narrow wraith]

also it uses the other dance not the same one

[grizzled lava]

yeah I noticed

[narrow wraith]

the song has 2 dances

[grizzled lava]

haven't been too worried about it cause like

they do the same thing

[narrow wraith]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A-M0zMeG_Ec this is the one it uses

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dSrAIw_slh4

and this is the other one

[grizzled lava]

same video both times

but I know what you are talking about

[narrow wraith]

did i send the same

[narrow wraith]

wtf

but i copied

bruh

ok i fixed it

[narrow wraith]

yes i found a rlly good motion

[grizzled lava]

Just gonna pin this incase anyone needs the info

As of LethalEmotesApi 1.1.15, you cannot emote in VR but there are no conflicts with any of these mods https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gemumoddo/LethalEmotesAPI/dependants/

I cannot pin messages

well you can search here anyway

but yeah works fine in VR, we just have no way of sending your VR inputs (yet) so you yourself can't emote but that is the only downside

[narrow wraith]

@grizzled lava

how do i rename it

its locked

[grizzled lava]

you can't rename it cause it's still bundled

is the overall fbx set to be humanoid?

before we continue it needs to be humanoid

[grizzled lava]

ok yeah

[narrow wraith]

but its giving an import error

[grizzled lava]

dw about it

unless something actually breaks

anyway

[narrow wraith]

and me and Unsaved Trash could figure it out

but it seems like it works

[grizzled lava]

click on the animation here

ctrl + d

[narrow wraith]

https://pastebin.com/BXHWh5mu

[grizzled lava]

that will extract it effectively

[narrow wraith]

pastebin of my errors btw

[grizzled lava]

I'm not reading all that unless it doesn't work

[narrow wraith]

xD

the animation the triangle file ?

[grizzled lava]

yeah

then control d

[narrow wraith]

ok

[grizzled lava]

that should make an animation not bundled with the fbx

...

send me the fbx lemme see

[narrow wraith]

okay

[grizzled lava]

can't even import it to blender to test

I feel like it might be cause file names have weird characters

or it's saved weird

[grizzled lava]

hey @vivid nexus just a question about advanced company, I'm looking to get cosmetics to show up when in third person, is there a function to call which would need a PlayerControllerB or something similar to show/hide cosmetics?

been sifting through the dll and nothing is jumping out at me yet

oh, probably coulda asked this in the advanced company thread

but I guess I already pinged you

[vivid nexus]

Are you using the Layer 23 fix? I can add your mod to the list which enable this fix. But I guess Lethal Emotes API is using their own AnimationController which will lead to problems with the upcoming MobileTerminal :)

[grizzled lava]

we don't override any animationcontroller

we effectively just change bone position + rotation

nothing else is touched

[red needle]

touching the animation controller is a cardinal sin for us

[grizzled lava]

also I haven't heard about this layer 23 fix

from what I've gathered, I really just need to access Show/Hide Cosmetics for the Player

problem is finding the Player instance

oh, I can just GetPlayer

I'm legally blind

[vivid nexus]

How do you show cosmetics for other mods like MoreCompany? Layer 23 is basically a culling mask. When going into third person you add layer 23 (which is usually not rendered) to the culling mask of the camera.

The cosmetics are not spawned for your own player if the Plugin.MirrorFound is not set so this method wont help :D

MirrorFound spawns own cosmetics and set them to use layer 23.

Same with equipment slots

[grizzled lava]

I just copied how they turn cosmetics on for mimics

which is to say, it ultimately just boils down to cosmeticApplication.ApplyCosmetic

for the culling mask

I set the camera's culling mask equal to the spectate camera's culling mask just as a catch all

[vivid nexus]

Let me see how TooManyEmotes is doing it :D

Yea, its adding the layer to the camera
emoteCamera.cullingMask |= 1 << localPlayerBodyLayer;

It creates its own camera tho

[grizzled lava]

right I get that

I'm setting the culling mask equal to the spectate camera's culling mask

so if something shows up there it will show up

[vivid nexus]

So probably it should suffice to do
camera.cullingMask |= 1 << 23;
And to remove it
camera.cullingMask = camera.cullingMask & ~(1 << 23);

I will have to look up which layers both cameras use. :D

But MirrorMod is using layer 23 for this stuff, so I might break compability with that then

[grizzled lava]

I feel like I'm being talked over, do your cosmetics render in spectate mode when someone dies?

[vivid nexus]

No, your own cosmetics are not even spawned as they would be shown otherwise :D

[grizzled lava]

no like

if you die

and are spectating someone

do you see their cosmetics

[vivid nexus]

Yes, afaik.

[grizzled lava]

ok then

so me setting the camera's culling mask equal to that spectate camera's culling mask

should work

if the cosmetics are enabled in the first place

right?

[vivid nexus]

To see your own cosmetics?

[grizzled lava]

yes

or specifically

the culling mask isn't the problem

[vivid nexus]

They are not spawned if I dont detect a mod I add compability for with the layer 23 thing. :) As I stated. I have to look up the different culling masks to create a solution which will work for other mods.

[grizzled lava]

I see

[vivid nexus]

What is the name of the spectator camera?

[grizzled lava]

PlayerControllerB.gameplayCamera.cullingMask

well

just PlayerControllerB.gameplayCamera I guess

I'm assuming this is the spectate camera in game

[vivid nexus]

Not SpectateCamera?

[grizzled lava]

wait

I missclicked lol

playerController.gameplayCamera.cullingMask = playerController.playersManager.spectateCamera.cullingMask;

is what I have

[vivid nexus]

SpectateCamera: 557389823
GameCamera: 557520895

Difference seems to be layer 17

I wonder if the mirrir mod changes the spectatecamera as well

If it does it would make all mods work together

The problem is tho that SpectateCamera unsets Layer 17. I guess I will incorporate the Layer 23 thing in my mod then and change the SpectateCamera accordingly so other mods copying the CullingMask from it will also work and compability with Mirror etc. is still given.

Then I dont have to decide if I want to spawn the players own cosmetics but only need other mods either to set cullingmask to include layer 23 or use the same values the spectatecamera uses.

I dont know why layer 23 was picked tho. Its EnemiesNotRendered. I guess it wont break stuff if only spectators can see that.

TL;DR: Will fix it in next version

[grizzled lava]

mk

thanks for the insight on it

[narrow wraith]

not bad

i might rework the audio a bit though

didnt rlly do much with the audio yet just ended it when animation ends maybe i should loop it

[grizzled lava]

hey thanks for this, that was literally all I had to do, I guess I was just confused because I suppose that is not part of the base spectate camera's culling mask, not sure what's up with that

I just kinda assumed setting the culling mask to the vanilla spectate culling mask was enough

evidently not

[vivid nexus]

[narrow wraith]

pretty good

Unsaved Trash carried me hard

[grizzled lava]

[grizzled lava]

working on an update for emotes, adding a way to "request" the healthbar to animate for literally anything, it will just copy what your player is doing

including with other emote mods

• a config option to just always force it to be on

[narrow wraith]

another emote finished

[long palm]

hihi, is there a way to fix lag on lower end pcs? or is it dependant on the emotes pretty much? my friends started lagging pretty badly using the badasscompany emotes,,

[grizzled lava]

You know I've heard this from a few people, but when running performance tests on our emotes, it's pretty minimal, are you running with any other mods?

[long palm]

im running quite a few, although its hard to tell cuz it only happens with my friends who tend to turn off clientsided mods like skinwalkers and such

ik its an entirely unrelated mod but it even happened with toomanyemotes for a while as well, so im wondering if its a general issue with emote mods?

[grizzled lava]

I mean it could be a conflict but

#1187207551754977290 message

I ran pretty extensive tests, and our emotes don't really impact much at all

So if there is lag it could be a conflict but it's hard to say

[long palm]

oof yeah, i can see if maybe i can happen across a conflict if anything, i have no lag at all so i cant really speak on it myself too much

[grizzled lava]

Yeah I mean if one of your friends that was actually lagging wouldn't mind sharing a r2modman code, I can take a look, but it's kind of a vague question of what's causing it with every mod you add

[long palm]

ill see if i can have em send one in the morning, theyre relatively the same as mine tho aside from some better performance mod, but for whatever reason r2 is shitting itself so i cant export a code or a file

for now i have this if its any help, i was thinking maaaaybe it was the custom hud conflicting a bit? but i can only kinda guess

[narrow wraith]

i run this mod with over 80 mods and it runs stable for me its just about finding the right mods

also watch me whip nae nae finished

forgot to loop animation but easy fix

[narrow wraith]

another emote dont ask

[red needle]

You should really consider root motion for some of your emotes

As they travel rather far and get away from center view of the camera

[narrow wraith]

will it cause issues

i havent heard anything about root motion setting tbh

do you mean this

non of my emotes are forced third person either

i liked how scuffed hit or miss look though

[weary forge]

I experience a weird bug with lethalemotesapi. i found out its this exact mod through basic troubleshooting (enabling/disabling mods one by one). When i wanna access the terminal it doesnt zoom in on the screen. It just disables the ability to look around and when you type something, wasd still moves the character. After you leave the terminal you cant access it again
the weird thing is yesterday it still worked and since then i didnt update it or install anything else after that
ofc i updated other mods but i dont know what could have caused this

[valid bloom]

i joined just for this, glad to see im not the only one, did u find any way to fix it?

[weary forge]

no i found this issue like an hour ago

[valid bloom]

well, time to wait for fix update i guess

[narrow wraith]

the dev is asleep im pretty sure last time i spoke to him was at 08:43 am its 1pm rn

[narrow geyser]

It's 7:19 right now for us

[weary forge]

yea same time zone for me

[narrow geyser]

Anyways

Send logs if you've got them

[narrow wraith]

i am ready to release my mod but i dont know how to move it out of the example dll 😄

ik how to release it as the template dll but uhh

i might do that ive renamed the ingame group thing to my own instead of test mod and changed the folder in the code

[narrow geyser]

Looks like something @grizzled lava might have introduced in a recent bug fix spree

I'll take a look if he hasn't by the time I have a chance to

[thorny geyser]

is latest version broken?

[weary forge]

thank you

[weary forge]

seems like it
but it depends on the mod constellation ig
idk if its a mod conflict or something broken within this mod

[narrow geyser]

until we get another update out to fix it, please revert to the version prior to the issue

sorry for the trouble

[weary forge]

im never really sure if i can just download an earlier version through the thunderstore mod manager over a newer one.
im just going to install 1.2.0 over 1.2.1

[narrow geyser]

it should be fine to do so with LethalEmotesAPI at least

[weary forge]

just tried it with 1.2.0. still same issue

[narrow geyser]

try one more version back

I don't know when he did that bug fix

[weary forge]

so i will try 1.1.16 then

[narrow wraith]

yeah do 1.1.16

[weary forge]

1.1.16 seems fine

[narrow geyser]

good

at least I know where to look now

[mossy forum]

hmm.. finally done all but getting error '['

only here getting error

with [

[narrow geyser]

hmm I'll take a look in just a moment

[mossy forum]

give up :< idk why getting '[' letter errors kk

[narrow geyser]

@mossy forum what version of .Net do you have installed?

[mossy forum]

hmm let me check

i think 4.8

[narrow geyser]

you need .Net 8.0

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/8.0

grab the installer for windows

you probably want the "x64" installer

[mossy forum]

ok.

oh. getting build success.

and after getting error kk go to find channel who getting same problem kkk

oh i did

@narrow geyser Thx for help 😄

I never think about .Net 8.0 kk..

[narrow geyser]

no problem, in the future we plan on improving the tutorial and maybe provide an alternative way for making emote packs.

[narrow geyser]

could you tell me the steps needed to re-produce this issue?

along with a modpack file I guess

[weary forge]

well i didnt do anything specific besides entering the terminal
somehow i couldnt export the profile code: "Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'key')
But heres the file:

[narrow geyser]

were you playing with other people?

[weary forge]

no
i was in a singleplayer game

[narrow geyser]

LAN or Online mode?

[weary forge]

online mode

[narrow geyser]

was the issue consistent

as in you could re-produce it with a fresh save?

[weary forge]

everytime i entered the terminal and the issue appeared and then when i exited the terminal i couldnt go into it anymore (when lethalemotesapi was enabled).
i will try with a fresh save with version 1.2.1

[narrow geyser]

should really look into finishing up the diagnostics branch for LethalEmotesAPI

[weary forge]

also happens on a fresh save with version 1.2.1

[narrow geyser]

hmm

did you ever check if playing emotes also worked?

[weary forge]

i think so
i can test again with v1.2.1

[narrow geyser]

I was able to re-produce the issue

along with another one

playing emotes doesn't work either

seems to be a mod compatibility issue

I'm going to open up an Issue on our github with all the info I've collected from here

you'll be able to follow the progress on it in more detail there

[weary forge]

true

[weary forge]

can you send the link?

[narrow geyser]

I will

[narrow geyser]

https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/issues/90

[grizzled lava]

right makes sense

cause I changed the hud object

and the hud object can get deleted

oops

oh, well I have the checks already guess I just didn't fact check them :/

[grizzled lava]

oh, the answer was much more simple, I'm just stupid, I checked if the hud element got deleted but then just proceeded with my code anyway

[grizzled lava]

fix coming out in just a few minutes

sorry everyone who was affected, I probably shouldn't be making drastic changes like that at 3am

also fixing arms not working in first person cause I broke that too

@weary forge @valid bloom 1.2.2 fixes the issue, so sorry about that

it just got pushed so r2modman might take a few more minutes to get the update

[weary forge]

Gj man. Glad to hear that

[valid bloom]

Thanks!

[grizzled lava]

I don't see either of the devs in discord, but incase they are here and search for stuff made made:

Toothless Dance Emote and Lotosblume Dance both need to setup their folder structure like this so thunderstore doesn't break it when you download via r2modman (also please anyone using the emote template, actually rename your mod instead of leaving it as example mod name)

the reason for this is r2modman for some reason decides to unpack the first folder it finds

not really sure why r2modman does this, but you just have to work around it

cause if you don't it's dumping your files in one folder but your code is expecting an "assetbundles" folder

[narrow wraith]

oo more emotes

[elder nebula]

This is due to legacy compatibility issues

Before TS had any big manager there were a few mods that would have alternate versions of DLLs in folders, but installing them all would cause it to fail due to the mod already having been loaded
To prevent it as they all had the same file name, flattening was the easiest solution

[mossy forum]

hmm any easy way to vmd to unity?

[narrow geyser]

I think there's some tools to do so, but I can't remember if there are

I'll have to look into it

[grizzled lava]

@mossy forum hey btw, can you mark your songs as DMCA? I noticed everything you import leaves this as false

[narrow wraith]

oh i just noticed they used one of the same emotes i did 😄

so there will be a duplicate

this one

[grizzled lava]

that's how it be someitmes

the first emote mod beyond our own also added an emote BAC had

[narrow wraith]

yeah this emote is important for my friend group

[grizzled lava]

lol

[narrow wraith]

it has special meaning

so im not removing it

yeah i saw that

the breakneck

xD

[grizzled lava]

it's w/e

[narrow wraith]

true

maybe you can code something to stop dupes

like if dupe hide one of them

[grizzled lava]

there kinda is

[narrow wraith]

oh

[grizzled lava]

if two emotes of the same exact name exist, it ignores the new ones

[narrow wraith]

i see

[grizzled lava]

but these are named differently so they will both exist

which I think is perfectly fine

and preferable

[narrow wraith]

but custom name is freely so thats not likely to happen

[grizzled lava]

so people can choose

[narrow wraith]

yeah i dont mind it

personally

[grizzled lava]

we want to get a system in the future to allow even true dupes

but that requires a bit more work so we are putting it off lol

[narrow wraith]

true dupes ?

[grizzled lava]

as in, the name is the same

something along the lines of

and mod dev B also creates emote "test1"

now there is an emote named "mod A test1" and an emote named "mod B test1"```

but that's ignoring a few other complications that come with a system like that

which is why we haven't done it yet

but as more and more people start making stuff, it's becoming more obvious we need a system for it

[narrow wraith]

ah

[red needle]

yes you can use mmd4mecanim in unity
here is a link to the developers page for it
https://stereoarts.jp/

here is a link for the direct download. You will need to source your own pmd/pmx models and you will need to source your own motion data.
https://stereoarts.jp/MMD4Mecanim_Beta_20200105.zip

If you have motion data that requires a specific model or modded/addition non-default MMD bones then you will need to find and use a model that has those bones for the import to work correctly. Once the tool is used it should convert a pmx + vmd into an FBX file that can be turned into humanoid and used with the rest of the standard emote creation process.

If you use linux this addon will require a wine layer to work correctly. If you need tutorials or assistiance on how to use this tool I would suggest going to google/youtube/nicovideo/bilibili depending on your language as the existing tutorials will be far more effective at teaching you about this tool than I can.

[mossy forum]

All emotes on my build getting true

[grizzled lava]

Oh, guess thunderstore's decompiler is cringe then

[narrow geyser]

Why did you bother using it in the first place?

[grizzled lava]

Cause the source code wasn't available, and I trusted it enough to not just be objectively wrong

[rich egret]

do AC cosmetics work with LEAPI?

I remember not being able to see them in the third person view

[narrow geyser]

how long ago?

[rich egret]

Yesterday

[narrow geyser]

This bug should've been fixed already. Do you have a modpack code you can share?

maybe we had a regression somewhere

[rich egret]

nah I install all my mods manually

[narrow geyser]

when was the last time you updated LEAPI?

[rich egret]

I can try readding LEAPI and see if it still occurs

Yesterday is when I first tried it

[narrow geyser]

what version?

[rich egret]

Latest

[narrow geyser]

can I get a version number

[grizzled lava]

why not r2modman >:L

[rich egret]

Uh idk if thunderstore even lets you download older versions anymore so 1.2.5 I believe

gonna try adding it again and see if the issue still occurs

[narrow geyser]

if the issue is still occurring, then send logs

[rich egret]

yeah still occurs

I use a log stripper so idk if it will accurately log the issue but here

w/AC

mods in use

[grizzled lava]

hmm

seems fine on my end

might be specific to some of your cosmetics

since you aren't using r2modman for some reason

what cosmetic mods do you have

[rich egret]

Idk the specific cosmetic packs but I use like the most downloaded ones

[grizzled lava]

ok

well

[rich egret]

is r2modman really a big factor

[grizzled lava]

why not use it

[rich egret]

whats the difference between manually downloading and stuff

[grizzled lava]

is the better question

cause r2modman fixes most install issues people have

[narrow geyser]

our willingness to help you fix issues

[grizzled lava]

cause I don't want to have to sort through your mod list

when you could just send me an r2modman code

and I get your mod list + config

in seconds

[rich egret]

I see

[grizzled lava]

• it's easier for you too

like

[red needle]

and we know for a fact you are on all up to date mods

when you use it

[narrow geyser]

it's easier for us to find and fix issues when r2modman ensures that we have an exact copy of what your mod list and configs are

[rich egret]

I know I'm up to date because I installed almost all of these mods yesterday at the same time and I'm up to date with all the mods via the forum feature

[grizzled lava]

ok great

[red needle]

many mods update many times a day

[grizzled lava]

but a better question

[red needle]

so I know for a fact based on what you just said that you are most likely out of date for some fixes

[grizzled lava]

why not r2modman?

[rich egret]

I don't rlly have a huge mod list so it isn't hard to check

[grizzled lava]

like why do you manually install

[rich egret]

I just prefer manually idk why

don't like applications I won't really use on my pc

[grizzled lava]

well, I'm not testing on assumptions

so if you give me an r2modman code

I'll take a look at it

almost instantly

[rich egret]

I could try removing every mod except ac and leapi and its decencies and see if thats the issue

I don't really have much mods

[rich egret]

what kind of logs does r2modman produce?

to determine the issue other than instantly showing the mods and configs

[grizzled lava]

wait

ok how about this

cause I have a bet to make

and if I lose the bet I'll debug your mod as is

show me a video of you launching the game from steam

[rich egret]

is the bet showing if I own a legitimate copy of the game

[grizzled lava]

yes

so show me a video of you launching the game from steam

and show the issue occuring

in that video

and I'll deal with your annoying manual install setup

[rich egret]

i own a legit copy lol

[rich egret]

ok

[grizzled lava]

genuinely

I can't fathom a reason to not use r2modman other than it doesn't work with pirated copies

[weak fjord]

the funny thing is you can get r2modman working even if you pirate it 💀

[rich egret]

i can't be the only one who manually installs mods

[grizzled lava]

no, but 99% of the bug reports I get are from manual installers

[weak fjord]

why would you do it when you can do it with one click

and share it with friends with one click

[rich egret]

because im cool like that

[weak fjord]

💀

[rich egret]

ill get the vid tho

[red needle]

you aren't but devs need a way to reproduce and check these issues

[grizzled lava]

yeah like I'm willing to lose the bet here and deal with it

[red needle]

and the devs already checked and LEAPI works with AC cosmetics

[grizzled lava]

but like, debugging this is still going to be a pain

[narrow geyser]

I'm not spending 15-20 minutes sorting through the log+screenshot to fully re-produce the set up you have just because you don't feel like it

in that case

I don't feel like fixing your issue ever

[rich egret]

um

I think I fixed it lol

[grizzled lava]

...

[rich egret]

I deleted my cosmetic preset and then made a new one

[narrow geyser]

💀

[grizzled lava]

[grizzled lava]

[rich egret]

thank u for ur time....

[red needle]

I'll win a bet against you one day nunchuk

[grizzled lava]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2-tf2spy-spytf2-gif-19270816

[rich egret]

manual on top

[grizzled lava]

[mortal bane]

thought i followed everything pretty closely but when i try to build it fails, also got a bunch of errors and for the life of me i cannot figure out where i went wrong

[narrow geyser]

what's your csproj look like?

[mortal bane]

apologize for thunderstore i havent gotten to using r2mod

[narrow geyser]

thunderstore is fine too

is LethalEmotesApi installed in the profile?

[mortal bane]

yea

[narrow geyser]

what's inside the lethal emotes api folder?

[narrow geyser]

looks right so far

one more thing

uhh

[narrow geyser]

can I see what's below in this screenshot

[narrow geyser]

hmm, I don't see anything wrong

I'd say try reloading the project

Nunchuk recently updated the template today to have the emote api dependency handled without needing thunderstore/r2modman iirc

so if reloading doesn't work, you could try updating to the latest template

[mortal bane]

yeah tried reloading still getting errors

ill try the new template

[narrow geyser]

sorry, it's an ongoing process to improve the developer experience with creating emote packs

[mortal bane]

its good i understand

[grizzled lava]

yeah I'm actively editing together a much more in depth tutorial, but the repo is already updated

[mortal bane]

new template worked

[narrow geyser]

glad to hear it

[grizzled lava]

awesome, I'll have a tutorial going over it probably tomorrow, but it should be pretty similar to what the current video shows

[grizzled lava]

@fleet bay

do you have a r2modman code for the mods you were using?

[fleet bay]

gimme a sec

where would i send it

get

[fleet bay]

018d15bc-d57c-d742-285f-cc0b11768b2f

[vagrant sapphire]

Hello, I'm having trouble adding the LethalEmotesAPI and BadassCompany to my modpack. Each time I try to add them, it makes me unable to press ESC or move in the game. I can only emote, but if I leave my camera unmoved, it will start to spin while emoting. I've already tried using only LethalEmotesAPI,BadassCompany and Advance Company mods, and I disabled my other mods, but the issue persists. I've seen people say that Advance Company is compatible with LethalEmotesAPI, so that's why I'm asking here. If someone has encountered this issue before, I would appreciate any help.

[narrow geyser]

could we get a modlist code

[vagrant sapphire]

Yes this is the code: 018d1990-1ea8-7e79-2fe5-96c092e331ed

[grizzled lava]

should be, but there have been a few updates on both ends recently

[narrow wraith]

try hitting the windows key

this is a regular bug unrelated to the mods, unless something new came up

[grizzled lava]

I'm looking into it

[narrow geyser]

the logs suggest otherwise

[narrow wraith]

there is so much error

in those logs

idk i dont have these issues with lethal-emotes-api my own emotes and bad ass company

my console has 1 error only and its a non damaging once
my entire point was when im having weird bugs like i cant hit esc or something else clicking the windows button tends to fix them when loading in a bugged state

[grizzled lava]

broiiler ur not helping :x

[narrow wraith]

true

[grizzled lava]

I think you said so, but just to clarify, it breaks with just advanced company and emotes api/badasscompany installed?

[vagrant sapphire]

Yes, that's what I did. I disabled all other mods and left only Emotes and Advance Company, and of course, their dependency mods

[grizzled lava]

um

are your mods out of date by any chance?

[rich egret]

Can only 1 emote pack be loaded? tried installing badass company and broiler at the same time and it only shows 1 set in the menu

[grizzled lava]

they should both be there

you can test by using the search menu and doing @modname

[narrow wraith]

[rich egret]

screenshotted my 2nd monitor by accident

[grizzled lava]

neither of those are what you listed

lol

[rich egret]

oh wrong one

but apparently it is compat with badass so i was confused

[grizzled lava]

it is

[narrow geyser]

it is

[grizzled lava]

anything that uses emotesapi works together

[narrow wraith]

make sure you are running 1.0.9 + of my mod

[grizzled lava]

unless they don't rename their mod

[narrow wraith]

there was an earlier version where it had an issue but it was with chikuwacompany

badass company has always been compatible im pretty sure

[grizzled lava]

I'm thinking it might be something other than advanced company, but I'll do some more testing, cause with just badasscompany + advanced company the game works fine

[narrow wraith]

here you can see im running my own badass and glizzy all in 1

[vagrant sapphire]

I manually installed the mods, and then I installed the mod manager like one hour ago . The issue still persists

[rich egret]

weird

i can only use one at a time

[grizzled lava]

did you not give them their own folder

since you manually install

[narrow wraith]

i should prob include manual install instructions in my read me

[rich egret]

i just put the dll in the plugins folder lol

[grizzled lava]

yeah...

[narrow wraith]

oh

[grizzled lava]

every mod needs it's own folder

at least do that much

[narrow wraith]

i recommend using a mod loader like r2modman or thunderstore app as it installs everything correctly for you and has other pros and manual has mostly cons

[rich egret]

man all my mods work w/o folders

ill try giving it a folder

[vagrant sapphire]

I didn't change anything; I let the manager install the mods, but the issue remains the same for me

[grizzled lava]

for reference, this should work 018d199f-6663-f25a-a8a0-d7fe4133c022

[grizzled lava]

I was talking to f1eece

since they do manual installs

and as such run into problems like this

[rich egret]

ok so when I give it folders

now it doesn't show the emotes at all lol

I could try using r2modman but thats such a process yk

[grizzled lava]

is it?

[rich egret]

because then I have to redo all my mods and configs

[narrow wraith]

it autosetups everything for you its just download mods from an install button

there is 0 manual setup

you just click install on the mod

you can use other peoples profile code to get their mods or share yours to give your friends mods 10x easier

it even automatically links to lethal company when you select the game in the launcher

so you dont have to set the game path

[rich egret]

ik how it works i just have like a minimal setup so i don't rlly like downloading applications use for mods and stuff

[narrow wraith]

its a very small file

and uses almost no resources

[vagrant sapphire]

I'll try this. Thanks

[rich egret]

ill check it out

the reason why I like manual install is I can see what is going in my folder and what isn't

and I heard there were incidents of malware, etc slipping through thunderstore so me being the cybersecurity nerd its just habit now

[grizzled lava]

um

yes that happened

but you still downloaded mods right?

which is what was actually compromised

not r2modman

[narrow wraith]

you are downloading your mods from the same source what is the difference ?

you would get malware with the manual install too i check every mod i download manually before using it in the mod loader

also this hasnt been an issue for a while now as the thunderstore admins made an effort to make it safer

[rich egret]

ill switch to r2modman once im not lazy to reinstall and config everything

for the multiple emote pack thing ill just use stick to 1 for now since it will have to suffice until then unless there is some sort of way to do it manually and get it over with

[grizzled lava]

well either way, you need to do this

if you manually install stuff

[rich egret]

thanks ill try it out

[grizzled lava]

I suggest doing that for any mod that would otherwise have a loose dll

[grizzled lava]

for reference, I'm gonna keep looking into what's causing the problem, seems to be maybe a middle man or something, cause whatever is happening is causing Advanced company to throw errors like no tomorrow, and removing emotesapi from your pack specifically fixes it, but on their own they work together just fine

probably just gonna look at reinforcing my own code instead of making a patch

if that's possible

[vagrant sapphire]

Yeah, exactly. Weird. I'm going to try disabling some mods on this profile until I find the culprit . At least it didn't stop working after removing all mods and leaving the EmotesAPi and Advance Company mods alone again. Thanks for your help

[urban ridge]

what is key for that ?

[grizzled lava]

whatever your join key is

default is v

[narrow geyser]

should be 'V' by default

[urban ridge]

ok thx

[narrow geyser]

you can change it ingame

[grizzled lava]

I swear I'm going to make a mod to patch out boombox/tellivision controller from yoinking my console on startup

[grizzled lava]

yeah hardening was the answer, I just delay my stuff by a frame so anyone inserting stuff at the begining will never see my stuff and have their code get confused + renaming stuff to very clearly be for emotes.

working fine on my end, will get a patch out after I run through a few more test cases

@vagrant sapphire #thunderstore-releases message fix is out, should be on r2modman whenever it updates the cache

[vagrant sapphire]

I'll check that. Thank you very much

[narrow wraith]

@grizzled lava i think you broke the emote api ?

we are playing with friends and people cant see people emoting

this person is emoting

but its doing nothing

[grizzled lava]

I think something broke with the last release

[narrow wraith]

i can see some people emote

but not all

[grizzled lava]

wtf

[narrow wraith]

what is the current working one

so i can backtrack to it for now

1.2.6

[grizzled lava]

1.2.9 is probably safe

trying to figure out what broke

uhh

@narrow wraith

seems fine right now?

are you using other mods?

[narrow wraith]

many

[grizzled lava]

I can take a look at your setup

pls

[narrow wraith]

we just changed to 1.2.9

[grizzled lava]

cause I got like 3 other people in the last 20 minutes saying stuff broke

[narrow wraith]

i can give you my mods though

[grizzled lava]

a profile code works

[narrow wraith]

018d1a4a-da5b-dbff-026e-5c9b4c09d888

this is the old profile code

[grizzled lava]

thank

[narrow wraith]

so i think this has the api with latest

where it broke

ive barely added anything new except for moons since last time it worked

[red needle]

the issue isn't with your pack, it is happening with BAC as well, its looking like it may be an API issue

[narrow wraith]

works fine for 1.2.9

we are all vibin now

what is this green message if you know ?

[grizzled lava]

[narrow wraith]

found a new bug if you emote while dying on a landmine and when you spawn in you will spawn in a wall in the ship while in orbit

[grizzled lava]

found the cause, working on a solution

#thunderstore-releases message

fixed

[narrow wraith]

ty!

[grizzled lava]

(something is still broken)

[rich egret]

is 1.2.9 just the most stable version

[narrow geyser]

for now

but 1.2.9 has incompatibilities with different mods :/

[grizzled lava]

yeah sorry

[rich egret]

is it compat with ac at least

[grizzled lava]

working on it actively

it is mostly*

there seems to be a middle man breaking something

but I couldn't nail it down

with just emotesapi and AC it works fine

[narrow wraith]

didnt run into any bad issues playing for some hrs with 1.2.9

[rich egret]

what is broken in the current version may I ask?

[narrow geyser]

uhhh

it's hard to explain

but sometimes one person in a group will have their emotes broken

[rich egret]

I think the only bug I encountered is the flashlight not working unless I do a random emote or smth like that

[narrow geyser]

but only visible to some of the other players

here's an example

only happens with a specific set of mods

[grizzled lava]

1.2.12 should be actually fixed for real this time

we tested with 3 people this time

so sorry about all of the confusion

[crystal nimbus]

I'm starting to worry about the developer LethalEmotesAPI and his mod 🥺

So many fixes in one day

[grizzled lava]

ehhhh

it was all oversights

stuff that I didn't change when porting this from ror2 finally came back to bite me

[crystal nimbus]

Should I be afraid of this?

[grizzled lava]

fuck

[crystal nimbus]

018d1b00-794d-968f-184b-22d9326d8c98

I checked it in the mod build.

[grizzled lava]

is this in single player too?

[crystal nimbus]

I'm alone, but I expanded the lobby to 8 to check compatibility and stuff

Maybe the problem is in MoreCompany?

[grizzled lava]

the problem is me

it's not some other mod

[crystal nimbus]

I just don’t understand much why and where the console is cursing, but I want to figure it out so I can write a clearer report on gihub

I apologize for giving you a mistake out of the blue. 😭

[grizzled lava]

oh, emotes work still though

hrm

no don't apologize for giving me work

[crystal nimbus]

I have 3 mods with emotions

[grizzled lava]

it's clearly broken somewhere

[narrow geyser]

I really need to update our build system to include the debug symbols

Would make things easier for us

[crystal nimbus]

And I hope that they will work stably, because toomnay is needed for masks, and more emotes by default, well, badass - where would we be without them?

[grizzled lava]

well

emotes seem to work at least so that's good lol

[crystal nimbus]

I'll be very grateful! I've been updating the Lethal Loners build for 4 weeks now and it's going to be great

[grizzled lava]

so I guess maybe be a little less afraid of the errors

[crystal nimbus]

Sometimes my game screen freezes if I minimize and check the logs often. I have no idea why this is, maybe because there are a lot of mods? Or the console doesn't upload, I don't know...

[narrow geyser]

Is it spamming the console with errors?

[grizzled lava]

nah just seems to be when importing the emote skeleton

not sure why it didn't do that with out tests earlier

[narrow geyser]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Well if nothing is broken

Then it can probably wait until the morning

[grizzled lava]

yeah I'm not gonna stay up over it

just gonna see if I can eyeball it

[crystal nimbus]

today I will get older with 4-6 players and try this modpack and test for errors

[grizzled lava]

yeah please report anything you encounter, I'm always down to get stuff working better

speaking of

so this right?

just a cleanup task

not really sure why it's failing

but should be genuinely harmless

so, gonna sleep on it, instead of trying to cram the fix in tonight

don't let my shitty programing distract you from this hot new hour long tutorial I did for Emotes API https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ6-ufji-Rk

replacing the old 10 minute "good luck lol" tutorial with this

[vapid ocean]

i somehow managed with that but this is v nice~

[grizzled lava]

Well it wasn't unusable, but it also didn't elaborate on anything

So I was quite unhappy with it

[vapid ocean]

i did scream into the void a few times

[grizzled lava]

Sorry :/

[vapid ocean]

rly appreciate the api tho. not uploading to thunderstore bc it's mostly mmd stuff but my friends are having a lot of fun!

[grizzled lava]

Honestly fair, glad y'all enjoy it!

[narrow wraith]

is there any reason for me to watch the tutorial ?
or do i know everything from it already

oh props could be useful to learn

[grizzled lava]

Also we found a better way to preview stuff

[narrow wraith]

in the game in unity ?

[grizzled lava]

Than that crap thing I sent you

In unity

Lemme find the timestamp

[narrow wraith]

yeah i meant game screen in unity

xD

[grizzled lava]

https://youtu.be/GZ6-ufji-Rk?t=15m34s

Props are at the very end, there are timestamps in the video though

[narrow wraith]

yeah i saw