[Deprecated] Advanced Company

[solid pivot]

But better not, having islands is weird since that one E guy

Who didnt kill himself btw

[arctic sonnet]

🤣

[solid pivot]

🤣

I would hate that superifical stuff so much

[arctic sonnet]

Just gib me a freshly built home, in a safe location, good enuf net, 'n access to all my essentials.

[solid pivot]

This is also the reason I never want to be famous or popular with my YT and Twitch stuff

I want some viewers, thats enough

Some cool people

But being famous makes you very lonely

[arctic sonnet]

I could literally live in a home the size of a 2-bedroom apartment happily. I don't get why people wanna live in a giant damn home o -o

[solid pivot]

As you never know if people are really interested in you or your fame

Nah, wont want to have a giant home xD

[arctic sonnet]

Who the hell wants to clean up near ceilings

[solid pivot]

Island with a small house is enuff :3

And fiber glass internet

🤷‍♂️

[arctic sonnet]

where the hell is this island

and how will you connect an entire fiber glass internet to the rest of the world

[solid pivot]

I would love to live on an island in new zealand tbh

[arctic sonnet]

I hear new zealand is pretty damn nice

[solid pivot]

If I were rich I could hire people to lay the cable for me

[arctic sonnet]

Switzerland 'n whatnot

[solid pivot]

And if its 100 miles

:P

Give a potatoe an island, a smoll home and good internet

And potatoe can live happily ever after

And a helicopter to fly in friends of course

[arctic sonnet]

hopefully potatoe no get hit by a hurricane or something

given the shit weather

[solid pivot]

:<

[arctic sonnet]

weather's going to shit

[solid pivot]

Then potatoe goes flyiiiing

[arctic sonnet]

get planted on another island

lol

[solid pivot]

xD

Another dream would be to live in the canadian countryside

like actually in a forest

with a log cabin

[arctic sonnet]

I been to canada once

in the summer

[solid pivot]

If I were rich I would do something like that

[arctic sonnet]

fucking beautiful

[solid pivot]

I dont get the appeal of big mansions

[arctic sonnet]

The streets were awfully clean in Canada... like - scarily too clean

[solid pivot]

big mansion, small pp I guess

[arctic sonnet]

you wouldn't even see anything in the drain paths

not even leaves

[solid pivot]

This would be enuff for me

[arctic sonnet]

so pretty ;u;

[solid pivot]

It is

[arctic sonnet]

the uh

foundation doesn't look stable - visibly

but that's probably fine

[solid pivot]

Just living out in the woods in my log cabin :3

Yea xD

[arctic sonnet]

like

excuse me-

[solid pivot]

I would probably also just build my own log cabin. Its not that hard tbh. Its a lot of work

You need a lot of time

[arctic sonnet]

and a lot of logs

[solid pivot]

But the principles from the architecture side of stuff is manageable

Its a pretty well known concept and easy to do

[arctic sonnet]

you need a lot of logs, the logging of logs, the logging of what you're doing

log log log

[solid pivot]

xD

Yea, would buy the logs of course

Felling that many trees, oof

[arctic sonnet]

Ez - just get an axe

[solid pivot]

xD

[arctic sonnet]

chop it down yourself

move the log yourself

[solid pivot]

And a lot of stamina

[arctic sonnet]

strip the bark yourself

[solid pivot]

Felling trees is hard work and dangerous too

[arctic sonnet]

check it, clean it, ez obviously

[solid pivot]

Dont wanna get knocked out by a tree 🤷‍♂️

[arctic sonnet]

I've seen many videos of people to attach themselves to trees/branches

and when they're chopping it while on the tree

they ragdoll

[solid pivot]

xD

[arctic sonnet]

like a gmod ragdoll

it's creepy to see a ragdoll irl

that's just the human body equivalent of: "well shit- I didn't plan this"

[solid pivot]

I would always prefer this over any big mansion

[arctic sonnet]

most of the time they climb down the tree or pick themselves off the grass somewhat unharmed

it looks so clean 😄

the heck

I've never seen or been near snow though - but I hear a lot of issues with it like snow buildup on a roof

[solid pivot]

yea :3

And because you usually want to isolate your home the snow wont smelt when you heat your home :3

So manual labor required if its too much

[arctic sonnet]

I wonder if like

a roof could flash-heat for a split second

cause it all to slide right off

[solid pivot]

With a home made of wood I would be scared by flash heating 🤣

[arctic sonnet]

all ye gotta do is make the bottom layer water and give the snow momentum right?

and it just slip

[solid pivot]

Maybe youll end up with a flaming hot house :3

[arctic sonnet]

I'm sure the cold temperatures will stop the fire - right? ;p

that's how thermodynamics works

[solid pivot]

So cozy

[arctic sonnet]

it's so cold, fire stops obviously

ok

but this is just the clean freak in me

[solid pivot]

so cold, heartless

Not cozy :<

[arctic sonnet]

How in the hell

do you clean

there

[solid pivot]

xD

Rich people today dont know how to live tbh

[arctic sonnet]

look - I can barely reach the top of that damn lamp

[arctic sonnet]

christ almighty

[solid pivot]

This was how kings lived in europe :3

[arctic sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[solid pivot]

Photo of versailles

[arctic sonnet]

I don't think I could sleep anywhere near this room

[solid pivot]

https://cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/madsack/7RRKX6CK5ZIUXZI456BVR6M23T.jpg

[arctic sonnet]

too shiny

[solid pivot]

The gardens are awesome too :)

[arctic sonnet]

that has to take ages to maintain...

[solid pivot]

Yea, you need staff for that :3

I mean its a castle

[arctic sonnet]

that damn picture alone looks like 30+ people minimum

required

[solid pivot]

It was the castle of the Sun King Ludwig XIV.

That fella :D

Some people might recognize this palace/castle from Venice :3

[arctic sonnet]

I do recognize it...

[solid pivot]

From Assassins Creed 2

[arctic sonnet]

ah

[solid pivot]

Sometimes when thinking about the rich history of Europe I feel bad for americans

[eternal mauve]

They all look the same

[half wasp]

pain

[solid pivot]

These were all pictures of the same Castle Versailles :P

[half wasp]

must be nice

[eternal mauve]

No whoops lol, I meant all the KINGS! Every single one looks exactly like the previous one

[solid pivot]

Those look vastly different (and were built between 1100 and 1900)

[half wasp]

ah yes america

[solid pivot]

xD

tbf, most european countries nowadays dont really differ that much

Modern buildings are just... modern

[half wasp]

this is unironically like 20 minutes from me

[eternal mauve]

I want castles like on the left side there :(

[half wasp]

It all looks the same

I want castles

[solid pivot]

xD

[half wasp]

we just build squares

[solid pivot]

This is vienna

[half wasp]

co we know how much to overcharge for square feet

[solid pivot]

xD

[half wasp]

this is where I grew up

[eternal mauve]

Too right of this picture is where the leap of faith takes place

[solid pivot]

I mean, many european countries have rich culture dating back thousands of years and many countries keep part of that intact as a cultural inheritance

Thats whats called "Altstadt" in big cities

Its basically "Old city" in english

The houses are kept intact like they were 100s of years ago

To keep the cultural meaning intact

[eternal mauve]

This is kind of harsh but Americas land just had natives on it

[solid pivot]

yea

[eternal mauve]

Amdy I hate to tell you but that’s not a castle shape

[solid pivot]

xD

🤣

You can see stuff like that in many places in europe

[eternal mauve]

That’s gorgeous

[solid pivot]

But there are also modern buildings in europe. Like a lot

But at least we keep some of the old stuff ^^

I mean, Disney built a fortune with european culture

Some would call it cultural appropriation nowadays

[solid pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/peepogiggle-gif-4018305763991603335

Snow White for example is a fairy tale originating from the southern lower saxony in todays Germany.

[half wasp]

not anymore

[barren rover]

Theres still native communities

[solid pivot]

The whole natives story is a sad one tbh. From both sides. Not a very great start to form a country :<

[half wasp]

Oh yeah? Yall ever heard of chrisopher columbus?

[solid pivot]

I wont pick sides in that story. It isnt my story anyway :D

[half wasp]

pain

[solid pivot]

I dont meddle with other countries and their history

I wouldnt be capable of doing so anyway. Lacking of knowledge

[half wasp]

we have very sad history

but so do many

[solid pivot]

I mean, monarchy waasnt that great

At least most of the time. Managing a land in other ways wasnt very feasible anyway

Without the internet or communication

But monarchs regularly abused their power

I mean... politicans today do so too XD

Those parallels....

Feudal systems were meant to manage big countries in a way to benefit all (but sadly the noble the most)

I mean, democracy is a better system overall

The story of Japans feudal system is very fascinating too btw

[hearty frost]

If you know, you know? 😉

[solid pivot]

Especially that they developed so similary to europes even tho they developed mostly independent from one another

Samurai are basically the japanese equivalent of Knights

But yea, Human history is full of awesome stuff but also a lot of suffering. Because humans are... well... humans.

Our own imperfection is leading to so much suffering :<

Anyway. AC running mostly good now?

[twilit rock]

AC seems to run fine on my 69 mods modpack.

[solid pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066

[twilit rock]

yes I tried my best to just be 69

[solid pivot]

Who is gonna make a mod pack with 420 mods?

https://tenor.com/view/peepogiggle-gif-4018305763991603335

[twilit rock]

Oh god

their PC must be beefy

maybe if I upgrade my PC one day. I'll make 420

[solid pivot]

And then the third movie. Return of the King with 42069 mods

🤣

[twilit rock]

though not enough mods for it to 420 really XD

[twilit rock]

LOL

[solid pivot]

69: The fellowship of the ring
420: The two towers
42069: The return of the king

[twilit rock]

LMAO

[solid pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

[twilit rock]

a whole trilogy

[solid pivot]

No emotes, so spam gifs

🤷‍♂️

:kekw: missing

[twilit rock]

lol

Honestly trying to find 69 mods that work well and is both hard and fun is challenging. for me anyway XD

some mods just don't mesh with others.

[solid pivot]

Thats how it is with modding

[twilit rock]

true that

One day I'll make my own mod. and watch all the mods I play with crash

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-laugh-kek-intensifies-kek_intensifies-gif-10111909

[ornate zealot]

I just do that nonconciously

It’s more difficult to fit that one last mod in to even it out

[twilit rock]

That's cool. i have to take into consideration the people I play with and if it's ok to stream and easy on their PCs. well as easy as that many mods go anyway

[ornate zealot]

I either find a mod that needs a dependency, making it 71

[twilit rock]

oof

yeah that's painful

[ornate zealot]

Or i just can’t find a good mod that i dont already have to make it 70

[twilit rock]

That's actually the main reason how I even found Advanced company XD

[solid pivot]

Only 25 likes left to reach page 1 of top rated

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-running-in-circles-pepe-spinning-spinning-pepe-gif-10951607057960614021

So if you havent liked yet 👀

[stiff galleon]

Will immediately do that after I got home

I will register a new account just for you

[arctic sonnet]

I dun has account .,.

[solid pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/sign-me-up-time-to-sign-up-cody-mcauliffe-gif-18269058

[arctic sonnet]

You right

@solid pivot

👍

[hearty frost]

https://tenor.com/view/better-tomorrow-starts-with-registering-today-vote-voter-voting-gif-17274857

[stark berry]

will round it

[arctic sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-26077231

[solid pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-stonks-stonk-jam-head-shot-hans-gif-21157324

[shell coyote]

hey potato

yesterday while playing

we had some issues

[solid pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-doge-coin-to-the-moon-crypto-cryptocurrency-gif-14563637

[shell coyote]

1- One guy said other guy bought carry bags but he also unlocked it

2-Other said leaving and rejoining causes xp to be gone

3- And their skills were shared except me

[solid pivot]

Did you read the pinned messages?

I need logs, otherwise I wont be able to help you

like at all

I feel very sorry for you but if you cant provide the bare minimum of information for me to help you

What should I do?

Cast a spell?

https://tenor.com/view/casting-spells-magical-halloween-witch-gif-12769129

[arctic sonnet]

Yes

[shell coyote]

hmm

[arctic sonnet]

BugFixacus

[shell coyote]

is the logs saved?

from the last session

[solid pivot]

See Github Issue Template, its stated how logs work there

[arctic sonnet]

your last 2 sessions are saved

as long as you haven't loaded the game up

you can fetch it right now

[solid pivot]

I need logs of host and affected clients tho

Thats the nature of a networked game

Only 2 people so far reported this happening. Feels to me like some mod conflict tbh.

By now I read the playerClientId from your PlayerController assigned by the game

So something f's that up

🤷‍♂️

[arctic sonnet]

oh

actually

what lost stated sort of lines up to something that affected once or twice in my runs

[shell coyote]

must be

if I were to share my modlist

would you give me some insight what mod may be it?

[solid pivot]

I dunno most mods

I know like 0.1% of all mods

[arctic sonnet]

Log probably would do potatoe more than modlist

[solid pivot]

And when that happens

please instruct everyone to get their portable terminal out

and type debug

And screenshot the whole text

if necessary in multiple screenshots

[arctic sonnet]

but yeah, I had a similar instance. Perks would be shared between one player to one other one, someone would join late in the game and just nab a perk build from someone else who played since the beginning

[solid pivot]

I fixed that bug a couple of days ago

[arctic sonnet]

however a lot of this funkiness did happen when we had a run going, toggled the save-progress, loaded, left, and toggled it back on - and loaded 'n stuff. So that probably was already fixed o- o

should probably edit the pinned message about the debug thing

[solid pivot]

I need this info at least

[arctic sonnet]

so if I come across any bug that seems to F with AC perks/items/something

Logs + Debug snapshot(s)

into issues

o- o?

[solid pivot]

If its XP/perks sync, debug will be very helpful

[arctic sonnet]

would it be helpful if it's like... rocket boots failing?

[solid pivot]

From the view of all clients btw

no

Thats where the log is enough

[arctic sonnet]

ok, so specifically perk/xp/pocket-terminal

i wonder if there was a bug that prevented debug from being typed into the terminal...

how the debug would happen . ,.

[solid pivot]

🤷‍♂️

[arctic sonnet]

does the log get written into as the game plays

or only when the game crashes/quits

I was about to ask if it's possible when somebody types "Debug" into your terminal - if your mod could fetch the log at that instance and paste it to the desktop... but maybe that's outside your realm of possibility for a mod o, o

but it would sound convenient to have everything the debug command shows to appear at the bottom of some log pasted to the desktop so that both are in one file that someone could shove into an issue o -o

[stark berry]

what cmd is this?

[arctic sonnet]

"debug" in the pocket terminal

[hearty frost]

WhatToAvoid&StrangeHumansSalesPitch #Vol1.0.69 👀 🤣

[grizzled root]

wtf amazon

[hearty frost]

https://tenor.com/view/kekhuh-kekw-gif-20353604

[shell coyote]

still happens

[solid pivot]

👍

[shell coyote]

yea

just because of that I and 7 of my friends can't play it

its frustrating

[solid pivot]

I hope reading 3 step instructions is working for you

Wont be able to help you if you fail at that.

[shell coyote]

I'll just wait until you fix it somehow or someone does the thing

I cannot just gather 8 people again

to get that info

[solid pivot]

Then you will have to wait for....

forever basically

[vivid vigil]

Is there any way of getting the more company default cosmetics without having to decompile the dll

[solid pivot]

I need reports with logs, cant do shit otherwise

[shell coyote]

Im fr thinking to stay at the most stable version of AC forever

once I found it has no bugs w my modpack

[vivid vigil]

What isit

[shell coyote]

beats me

I appriciate the additions, but bugs cost us days of not playing LC

worth it? hell if I know

guess I can finally enjoy Palworld

[solid pivot]

I mean its not really my fault if you are not able to provide the necessary information...

Every mod author here will ask you for logs

How am I supposed to be a magician and scan your past game from my home?

[wanton salmon]

I mean, could just wait to update when ya see a major update comes out. It's usually that way for any mod or game. In this instance, him trying to figure out the error is like trying to find a needle in a haystack(or worse). At minimum would need like 2 or 3 of the logs involved to see what was common between them. But just saying the error but nothing in-game/coding for him to hone in on, just kinda sends him on a wild goose chase where he isn't making any progress on other bugs or his next addition.

[devout owl]

what bugs lol

i havent noticed any yet

[narrow sluice]

currently its going well

it was a mess the last few hotfixes yesterday and the day before that lol

[wanton salmon]

It's gonna vary from person to person depending on their modpack

[devout owl]

well i only have like 20 mods

[wanton salmon]

But not necessarily is it an issue of AC

[devout owl]

and everytime i update i just duplicate modpack

and add the things there

[rigid swallow]

;p;

[ancient sand]

I have 130 mods and 0 issues with AC, and if you have a bug you should replicate it alone with AC and provide the log it's easy but annoying to the end-user 😛

[devout owl]

get the skibidi mod

[barren rover]

LethalLevelLoader planet price glitch?

[ancient sand]

I have that one xD

I go for free everywhere, because i'm using and older version with that "issue" that for me it's better 😛

[barren rover]

What issue u referring to?

[shell coyote]

give mod list

[fair turret]

I have a problem where the price of the scrap on a planet are way too much like 12k how can i fix It?

[shell coyote]

now my friends cannot join lobby

this mod is driving me nuts

[hearty frost]

No please nuttin 😐

[barren rover]

Why not, an error message?

[shell coyote]

black screen

everything messed up

spams soundmanager:true shit

can't even read console

4 of my friends haves it

[barren rover]

Attach the log

[hearty frost]

@shell coyote Do you just want the modpack I just put together to play around with/test?

4-10 player lobbies I need to test. So you're free to have it.

[hearty frost]

Looks like you got too many UI mods on trying to align and make placements. Also have another inventory manager installed somewhere.

[shell coyote]

no I don't

[hearty frost]

Hotbar+, ReservedCore anything like this will break your UI/Inventory.

Lethal Things Utility belt also causes it.

[shell coyote]

I disabled it

[hearty frost]

and yes you do

You need to also remove config too not just disable.

[barren rover]

Send ur modpack code

[devout owl]

u have like 2 mods for ur

[shell coyote]

wdym remove config

[devout owl]

health

[hearty frost]

Of any mods that are not loaded/used.

[barren rover]

Config files from mods that arent loaded in are inert

[devout owl]

abd also why u got battery wit nun in hand

[shell coyote]

hell if I know

[hearty frost]

Because they fucked thier UI/Inventory Management 😛

[shell coyote]

Used to use Elashud thing

now I don't

[barren rover]

Eladshud is fine, i run it with my pack

[hearty frost]

Elads is fine...

[barren rover]

Send ur modpack code so we can see what mods u have installed

[devout owl]

lethalhaptics

[barren rover]

Thats crazy

[hearty frost]

Spill those beans

[trim lily]

any reason why huntdown is not compatible with AC since last update ? @solid pivot

#1186884307332108339 message

[devout owl]

AC doesnt have haptic support unfortunately

[barren rover]

No find out for yourself

[devout owl]

u might have to disable for it to run

😞

[barren rover]

huntdown is tiny in comparison thats huntdowns fault

[solid pivot]

You too have to create a Github Issue

There are no exceptions

[hearty frost]

Does any unity game have haptic support?

[solid pivot]

I am on my break anyway

enjoying FFXIV

[hearty frost]

Huntdown probs trying to override enemy spawns or something my guess?

[devout owl]

what if i just dont like the color of my helmet lamp

[solid pivot]

Tatarus great endeavour :3

Gonna make that necklace for good Tataru

[devout owl]

make it pink like just for me

[barren rover]

rgb helmet lamp?

[shell coyote]

018d41aa-ebf3-1d1f-234a-592e8814f315

[shell coyote]

.

[solid pivot]

Dunno, need full log. Will look at that problem later, maybe sunday. Dunno tbh

Maybe the weekend after that

I will start Twilight Princess Saturday

And AC Rogue next week :)

[shell coyote]

this mods starts me to cold out from LC

[solid pivot]

So I am busy doing what brings more joy into my life

[shell coyote]

one update and we on hiatus for 5 days

[trim lily]

where can i find the github

[solid pivot]

instead of people complaining like there is no tomorrow not giving me any info I need

[barren rover]

huh?

[devout owl]

yeah u can customize it in the portable terminal

[solid pivot]

This is like: Why should I bother?

It doesnt give me any joy

[devout owl]

only i can tho, its my super power

[solid pivot]

:)

I guess if you dont want to provide logs, dont play with AC 🤷‍♂️

Keep your holy logs

[shell coyote]

Its not on my end

most of the times

[solid pivot]

its in the pinned messages @trim lily

[trim lily]

i have the fck logs, u just told to make a github

[solid pivot]

Dunno what else I should do

than put it into the pinned messages

🤷‍♂️

[barren rover]

#1186884307332108339 message

[devout owl]

the bracken keeps putting on bullet armor and equiping a shotgun what do i do

[solid pivot]

Enemies cant wear bulletproof vests

[devout owl]

nah he making fun of me in logs

[barren rover]

My game broke, please fix

[solid pivot]

This isnt possible at all :3

[devout owl]

hes talking to me in logs buddy

[solid pivot]

I will continue my great endeavour for Tataru now :3

Cheers!

[devout owl]

telling me to come to his favorite room

[barren rover]

@shell coyote Try uninstalling LCAPI and any of its associated

[vivid vigil]

imo the "I've heard advanced company has a lot of incompatiblities" message should just be a warning instead of error because it kinda mixes in with real errors

[shell coyote]

why

[barren rover]

Because ive had it cause compatibility issues before.. i said try it, if it doesnt change we can always try something else

[devout owl]

its just an easter egg lol

[hearty frost]

Hearing FF in german feels like a different game 👀

[vivid vigil]

yeah I know

[hearty frost]

Why have you got LC_ALPI installed?

[shell coyote]

hook gun, limited teleport charges and yt boombox

[hearty frost]

But... loooooore

[devout owl]

ac is kinda like a really compatible mod

so it shouldnt really be a warnin

[barren rover]

@shell coyote U have both lethal settings and lethal configs, which both do the same thing i think

[hearty frost]

1. stop using old mods. 2. use DiskJockey. 3. Remove LC_API

[vivid vigil]

it literally blends in with real errors

[barren rover]

Its a joke message because someone left a review on the AC thunderstore with that quote 😭

[hearty frost]

You shouldn't be having errors at that point of chainloading :/

[devout owl]

yeah but it funny

[hearty frost]

Only that one xD

[barren rover]

#1186884307332108339 message

see here

[devout owl]

its like 2 or 1 line of error

[shell coyote]

trying now

[hearty frost]

Bro wants to manage the settings manager that's managing settings ._.

[barren rover]

DiskJockey is so goated

[hearty frost]

^

It's the ONLY Boombox mod you should have lol.

And also people can play whatever they want without filling up a modpack with soundfiles.

[barren rover]

save more room for custom TV videos instead

[hearty frost]

Also you can even stream porn through it if you want to, if you're that kind of person :S

^

[shell coyote]

one mod wanted it

[devout owl]

yeah u prolly have a lot of mods that do the same thing as eachother

[hearty frost]

It being only 166mb is impressive tbh 😄

[barren rover]

U just gotta do some housecleaning for u modpack, remove redundant mods, and i bet it will start working alot better

[devout owl]

AC replaced like 10 of the mods i was using

[barren rover]

I have a python script that stretches to fit TV ratio and compresses them down

[hearty frost]

I remember you saying, it's so good

Always start your modpack with Advanced Company & General Improvements.

[shell coyote]

018d41b4-090a-c485-67e7-96e53a4049e1

current mod list

[hearty frost]

If you see a mod that does what either of those do, don't install it - really simple.

[barren rover]

Try to minimize the "realm" that mods occupy in ur pack. E.g. If you have a mod that messes with sprint speed, dont stack it with AC

[shell coyote]

problem is

about none of them clash anymore

its literally just stuff like buyable stuff, map, qol changes, skin, a sound mod

fair AI

[hearty frost]

Remove Fair AI

[shell coyote]

why?

[hearty frost]

I bet you got AiFix mods and also got other AI mdos on

mods*

Like why you needing QoL if GI/AC provement most of that?

Also to all, this is really an intruiging mod :3 https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Danos/LethalStats/

[devout owl]

also wym skin

[hearty frost]

First kind of public leaderboard in a way I guess or good way to keep record of stuff ;D

Funny to see how many people died to Gravity

[devout owl]

ac compat?

[hearty frost]

This is what it ends up looking like https://lethal.splitstats.io/r/aeniema

Works with AC yeah

[barren rover]

U still have like 2 config mods

[shell coyote]

018d41b9-1976-cee0-e58e-5c8905a9ed75

current version

down to 58 mod

from about 80

[hearty frost]

._. "Why my modpack don't work, everything works fine except it doesn't work".

[shell coyote]

even the slightest mod that I think it conflicts with AC, I destroyed

[devout owl]

im on my phone

😞

[shell coyote]

well, it used to work, BEFORE THE FUCKING UPDATE

check the modpack

see for yourself

wht else theres left

that conflicts w it

[devout owl]

send a photo of ur mods cuz uh

[barren rover]

they sent the code

[devout owl]

yeahh but im not home

[shell coyote]

got alternative for jockey?

[hearty frost]

Yeah just don't update things because there's an update? Should've kept a a backup.

[devout owl]

whats wrong with jockey

[shell coyote]

not alternaive

mb

tv

I mean

got tv youtube?

[hearty frost]

Are you good hommie?

[barren rover]

tv youtube no, but tvloader is a great mod

Theres a tv youtube mod

[hearty frost]

Yeah there's no loader like Jockey for TV that I know of

wait there is a youtube mod for tv? ._.

[barren rover]

but it runs off putting links in the chat, which in my experience is a little janky

I wanna push my modpack but i cant until this lethallevelloader cost thing is gone

[hearty frost]

I just share my pack with people instead of uploading, uploading means maintaing it and doing people who flood the site with modpacks D: haha

[barren rover]

i dont upload onto r2, i just share with a mediafire link

Auto install with batch script

[hearty frost]

oooo I get you

thought you mant actually uploading it to modmanager haha

[barren rover]

no, I just have like a 12 person group and it sours the game if i have to fix something while everyones waiting

Almost at 150 mods

[barren rover]

What does lethal resonance do

Im not noticing any different sounds

[hearty frost]

Overhauls all the sounds

[barren rover]

Is it noticable?

[hearty frost]

changes menu music/interactions too and queue sounds

they're very noticable

[barren rover]

hmm

[hearty frost]

Lethal Res is really nice, if you want something louder and crazier there's the Abyss pack

You should see if they're replacing audio at start of chainloader when starting game

takes like 10 seconds for it to do it

Like 300+ audio files I think

[solid pivot]

Fun part about "AC updated now nothing works" is always that most people also updated other mods at the same time

but then proceed to blame AC

Happened a lot with LethalLib

like 2 times

That they did an oopsie and people blamed AC for it

[barren rover]

People have too high of expectation for mod compatability with this game

think it will be like modding L4D2 or something

[solid pivot]

I am nearly finished with the necklace for Tataru. After that there is a weirdo named Hildibrand waiting for me 🤣

Better get those fine relics

[hearty frost]

I just don't understand how people think like chucking 100-200 mods in pack and keep constantly forcing updates within the pack is a good idea 😛 Especially when not even making a backup of latest working modpack ._.

[barren rover]

It sounds fantastic

had to restart once for CustomSounds to kick in

[hearty frost]

Ow yeah LC/CustomSounds needs a restart on first launch yeah 😄

[barren rover]

Does too many suits only support 5 pages?

I just added more suits, and yet, 5 pages

rack still full

Odd!

Nothing in config for it

[hearty frost]

I think TooManySuits has issues for it atm also check if your MoreSuit suit limit in cfg

[barren rover]

aah, i didnt know there was a moresuit limit

Trying 200 loaded suits 😭

Wowza

Theres no excuse for suits to use this much memory

[hearty frost]

Yeah there's a 100 default limit which you can change. Holyshit how much ram do you have for 13gb to be 18.5%? My maths bad. 64gb?

[stark berry]

bcs suit is in 2K

[barren rover]

32

[barren rover]

Still, 200 2k images isnt 14gb

A 2k uncompressed raw file is ~6MB

Not my problem though! i have more than 8gb

😭

[hearty frost]

Bro nearly got a suit for every day of the year xD

[stark berry]

suit loaded in ram after some process so they appear in rack suits, that's consume so much ram

[barren rover]

It shouldnt, theyre doing something wrong

[stark berry]

i already ask the dev, that's what he said

[barren rover]

odd

Its like a copy of every suit as a model is being saved into ram or something

[stark berry]

yeah

make 2d pic to 3d polygon

and saved in ram

[barren rover]

odd way, you should only need one 3d polygon in the ram, the texture is always applied in the same way

oh well

[hearty frost]

Do you have a modelapi installed? Emotes do some really weird stuff too

[stark berry]

https://github.com/x753/Lethal-Company-More-Suits/issues/25#issuecomment-1859054546

[barren rover]

Is emotes loading every single emote into ram constantly 😭

[barren rover]

Im afraid that some of the model replacements on the store are like 2 trillion polygon movie quality models

[eternal mauve]

Which emotes?

ME?

[barren rover]

moreemotes ofc

[hearty frost]

Yeah they dooo the iassac clark model is noice but yeah having like 10-20 of those starts eating the rams

[barren rover]

Its always a good sign when the "lethalcompany.exe is not responding" pops up briefly before loading into the ship 😭

[vivid vigil]

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
AdvancedCompany.Patches.LobbySizePatches.ReadConnectData (Unity.Netcode.ConnectionRequestMessage __instance, System.Boolean& __result, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader reader, Unity.Netcode.NetworkContext context, System.Int32 receivedMessageVersion) (at G:/Unity/AdvancedCompany/UpgradeCompany/Patches/LobbySizePatches.cs:916)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Unity.Netcode.ConnectionRequestMessage.DMD<Unity.Netcode.ConnectionRequestMessage::Deserialize>(Unity.Netcode.ConnectionRequestMessage&,Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader,Unity.Netcode.NetworkContext&,int)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkMessageManager.ReceiveMessage[T] (Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader reader, Unity.Netcode.NetworkContext& context, Unity.Netcode.NetworkMessageManager manager) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0076)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkMessageManager.HandleMessage (Unity.Netcode.NetworkMessageHeader& header, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader reader, System.UInt64 senderId, System.Single timestamp, System.Int32 serializedHeaderSize) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_00FF)
UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkMessageManager:HandleMessage(NetworkMessageHeader&, FastBufferReader, UInt64, Single, Int32)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkMessageManager:ProcessIncomingMessageQueue()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager:NetworkUpdate(NetworkUpdateStage)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateLoop:RunNetworkUpdateStage(NetworkUpdateStage)
Unity.Netcode.<>c:<CreateLoopSystem>b__0_0()```
 is that an issue on my side or not

[devout owl]

more emotes onky has 10 emotes tho

[hearty frost]

If you got Bepin console enabled, log freezes can freeze the game also for a second or two - why I disable console when not testing and actually playing 😛

[barren rover]

Is that in the bepinex config file? i never peeked in there

Do u know if winhttp.dll is something that i have to keep with my modpack?

[vivid vigil]

BepInEx.cfg -> Logging.Console -> ConsoleEnabled = false or something

[vivid vigil]

yes it's BepInEx's dependency

[vivid vigil]

nvm it was my friend using the wrong modpack

[hearty frost]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/fumiko/CullFactory/ - Nice new addition to my modpack :3

[barren rover]

Does it improve frames noticably?

Does it clash at all with custom dungeons?

[hearty frost]

30odd frame increase on a dense generation I will check custom interors now

I shouldn't imagine it would affect how a dungeon generates.

It also lets me get 80 frames in Genimedes xD

[barren rover]

not so much generates, my concern is some weird property with custom dungeons makes it think "distant" is like 4ft away and unrenders parts that shouldnt be

[hearty frost]

Ahhh testing lead to

This was for SDM

on Genimedes

[barren rover]

What is SDM

[hearty frost]

Scarlet Devil Mansion

[barren rover]

Does it effect gameplay in anyway or just spit out console errors?

[hearty frost]

Ow that what just happened killed my fps and broke fireexits. But Don't know if it was Cull that caused it, log said it was SDM--Genimedes

[barren rover]

The error log you posted only has cullfactory in the stack trace

[hearty frost]

I posted 2 logs

[barren rover]

ya but the other ones outputs arent even marked as errors, just saying it failed to gen parts of the dungeon

[hearty frost]

CullFactory went nuts after SDM failed to create it's branches properly

Yeah which CullFactory needs to know distance to render.

[barren rover]

So either/or

Though i would bet that failed to generate is a natural process when generating the dungeons

[hearty frost]

Branches shouldn't fail to generate period 😛

Why I tested it against SDM because it fails often

As with scoopy 0 issue 😛

[ornate zealot]

I’m gonna have to test that with

Well

Basically ANY bodycam mod

Bc if that culls far away rooms, i’m assuming that the rooms are just gonna be invisible through the bodycams

Since you’re far away

[hearty frost]

Yeah it's been pointed out already about bodycams of which pipeline to use.

[ornate zealot]

hell, not even in the facility

[barren rover]

hm, i thought since it was under info maybe thats just it going "this fab doesnt actually fit here, put something else"

Can you test it with more-interiors

[hearty frost]

Yeah sure

[barren rover]

Does running in front of the company counter make the door open, ive never noticed that before

[arctic sonnet]

Yes

Running makes noise

[hearty frost]

forgot to post 120-150 fps for me

[arctic sonnet]

noise that creatures can hear like Mimics or Eyeless dogs

[hearty frost]

Any noise makes counter open

[arctic sonnet]

(Mimics being "Masked")

[barren rover]

So no errors or conflicts? just with the other interior?

[hearty frost]

There's none at all 😛 SDM just has a generation issue atm 😛

on certain moons

[barren rover]

And i assume this is only culling the bits that NO player in the lobby can see, so helmet cams function fine?

[hearty frost]

Well Helmet Cams has it's own view distance so I don't know how it would work all together with it - I don't use them. Also OpenCams perhaps most accurately player cam atm I think I could test it with it

[barren rover]

Opencams channel on here said something about issues with modelreplacement and cosmetics

[hearty frost]

ModelReplacement I don't know Cosmetics should have no issue 😛

I can see my self with cosmetics in all 3 cameras when I tried (internal, external & player cam)

Also in multiplayer.

[barren rover]

Whats the advantage over the OG helmet cameras mod?

[hearty frost]

it's 1:1 what the player is seeing basically.

[barren rover]

Can you adjust the quality and framerate like with OG?

[meager cradle]

Should be able to yes

[hearty frost]

Yeah

[barren rover]

sweet, ill have to check out culling and opencams

[hearty frost]

I'm on it now with HDlethal, about to see - forced lod to 2 as well to see how that affects it.

Getting warnings already from OpenCam

I'd imagine culling wouldn't be a problem with other cams 😛

But they already have their own viewdistance too

[barren rover]

They should just be placing a camera from the player point of view

[hearty frost]

Ow it's working suprisenly

[barren rover]

Depends on if culling's not-rendering is client-side or if applies to all players in the lobby

[hearty frost]

Nah don't use culling with cams I'd say atm

[barren rover]

U said it working though yea?

[solid pivot]

Tataru questline was very emotional 😢

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-emotional-damage-steven-he-emotional-damage-gif-23428142

[barren rover]

All my friends are playing Apex Legends cause of the FF collab

😭

[hearty frost]

Until I actually generated dungeon then camera made it go crazy 😛

[barren rover]

lmfao oh well

[hearty frost]

Was fine inside the ship 😛

I did also put LOD on 2 😛

[barren rover]

How are you testing? singleplayer?

[hearty frost]

Both but if it's not great in SP it deffo not gonna be any use in MP 😛

[barren rover]

Would you say opencams is more prone to incompatibility than the OG simple one?

[solid pivot]

Only way btw for desyncs with XP and perks happening is some mod F'ing around with allPlayerScripts variable

[hearty frost]

I haven't ran into anything that's not compatible with it myself but I usually will stay away from cam mods, makes game much easier and also impacts performance for some people 😛 Communication is key for survival 😄

[solid pivot]

PlayerControllerB playerControllerB = allPlayerScripts[assignedPlayerObjectId];

Because if this isnt set to the correct player controller it will desync

But it would also lead to heavy desyncs without AC anyway

[hearty frost]

Lethal Progression did some funk with me when I tried it but I don't remember it causing desync between players 😛 Anyway Emotes strike again with this sort of stuff? xD

[solid pivot]

I am basically thinking about say f you all to other mods in networking regards tbh

and just override the methods in its entirety

And wont let any other mod do stuff to networking methods

(For the connection part)

[barren rover]

Ive balanced it by increasing the tp cooldown lol, i feel its fair

[hearty frost]

That seems like a fair trade I guess 😛

[barren rover]

Know when to teleport easy, but can only do every 40 seconds

[hearty frost]

How would this affect stuff like CustomSounds with Network behaviours on?

[solid pivot]

If they do anything in OnClientConnect or OnClientDisconnect OnClientDisconnectClientRpc or OnPlayerConnectedClientRpc it would break that stuff

[hearty frost]

To be honest, it would be great if something could control everything networking wise instead of arguments between every line because something is trying to overrule each other 😛

[solid pivot]

Dunno why any mod which doesnt to lobby size patches would ever want to hook into those methods anyway tbh

[barren rover]

To play a little jingle when someone joins the lobby

[solid pivot]

OK, so wont patch it and wont fix the bugs those mods introduce 🤷‍♂️

So its either jingle or AC

[hearty frost]

Why you want a jingle when someone joins, they can just scream down the mic for you D:

xD

Jingle their nuts on mic or something 😛

[barren rover]

Tough decision

[solid pivot]

would be awesome for anyone with the xp error to finally give me screenshots of the debug menu

[barren rover]

Hm? the xp error?

[solid pivot]

That they have the perks of other players

This shouldnt be possible ever

[barren rover]

Has anyone posted steps to reproduce it?

[solid pivot]

Unless some mod seriously fs with the game

[hearty frost]

I've honestly tried a bunch of stuff to replicate what ever they were saying but I've had no luck 😛 Only way i've given other players perks is if I've saved the progress in profile instead and shared it but a bug version of this I have no idea.

[solid pivot]

That much that I think some people using MoreCompany and renamed the dll or anything like that

fing that big

[barren rover]

When you say you want the debug, ur just talking about the "debug" keyword in the portable console?

[solid pivot]

yes

From all players

[barren rover]

If i encounter i can get it

[solid pivot]

If all players have the correct client id, its an user error

and they shared their save

I guess I will rename the save to use .save ending

[barren rover]

If the save file text editable?

[solid pivot]

wait, the savefile has no extension

shouldnt get shared then?

[barren rover]

Isnt the save stored in locallow gamefiles? i dont think r2 copies that over with the modpacks at all

[solid pivot]

If you dont set Save in Profile, yes

[barren rover]

My AC config file is 36,000 lines 😭

@solid pivot Would unequipped cosmetics contribute to ram usage?

[solid pivot]

yes

[barren rover]

Are they all loaded into ram regardless of whether they are being previewed in the cosmetics menu or equipped?

[solid pivot]

Yes, exactly like MoreCompany does it

[barren rover]

odd

[solid pivot]

and yes, some cosmetics are way too big

like 30MB assetbundles

with 5x 4096x4096 textures

stuff like that

[barren rover]

I just dont get how its like 14x the size of the entire modpack in ram

[solid pivot]

Because assetbundles are compressed

[barren rover]

Good ass compression

[solid pivot]

30MB are mor elikely to be around 110-120MB

[barren rover]

Is there a rough estimate to corerlate filesize to ram usage?

[solid pivot]

no

depends on file content

if you use ARGB32 as texture format it might get compressed from 100MB to 3MB

but in RAM and VRAM it will be the full 100MB

[barren rover]

Is there some tool to measure ram usage per mod or assetbundle in lethal company?

[hearty frost]

I'd just stop loading a bunch of loaders for TV/Boombox (use DiskJockey) and stop having 100-200 suits.

[solid pivot]

oh yea, movietextures tend to be huge

[barren rover]

haha

[hearty frost]

Indeed, they're massive 😛

[barren rover]

oh well

[hearty frost]

Like suits ain't toooo bad but boombox audio and ESPECIALLY loaders for TV shred through ram

[barren rover]

I think everyone has 16gb atleast 😂

[solid pivot]

Unity really isnt a video player

Better use middleware like binkw for stuff like that

Or add VLC to your game

and use VLC to render to d3d context

and add context via C++ code to unity

[hearty frost]

Could someone actually do that for LC? 👀 inbuilt VLC player?

xD

[barren rover]

Game wont crash if it runs out of ram right, just stutter?

[solid pivot]

https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc-unity

VLC already has a package for Unity

[hearty frost]

Game might lock up if you ran out of ram and/or crash.

[barren rover]

Oh well

[solid pivot]

Out of RAM can potentially lead to bluescreen of death

[hearty frost]

If you're out for long enough yeah, you'd get bluescreens pretty much 😛

[solid pivot]

I can very easily create an exe file in C# which will crash your PC to BSOD within 3 secs

[barren rover]

Goodluck everyone else 😭

[solid pivot]

And while it runs you cant do anything xD

Just create 64 threads and malloc the hell out of the ram

Happens too fast for windows to react correctly :3

windows will panic and BSOD

Which is the right way of an OS to handle this situation

[barren rover]

Epinephrine is to humans as max thread malloc is to windows

[hearty frost]

Spam AltF4 and pray xD

[solid pivot]

but yea, vlc unity is way more efficient

it streams videos instead of loading them completely into ram etc.

[hearty frost]

Actually don't even work these days because CPU's are so fast xD

Faster bluescreens yummy

[barren rover]

have it embed itself into the startup folder

[solid pivot]

VLC also has the advantage of supporting a lot of codecs

[barren rover]

Is the amount of ram the videos use proportional to the size of the video?

[solid pivot]

You can even watch twitch on it, without ads and stuff :3

but psssst

🤫

Twitch hates that trick

[hearty frost]

They all hate the tricks this year 😛

[solid pivot]

just listening to their rtmp output with VLC

big bad :<

[barren rover]

Lady on an airplane was staring at my laptop screen the whole time cause i was watching movies (that ive purchased and have a license to view!) on fmovies

[eternal mauve]

ooook

[barren rover]

Bros got the white console window

[eternal mauve]

@solid pivot id send a bug report but i have no idea what this is?

[hearty frost]

Bro how tf you got lightmode on it xD

[solid pivot]

1.1.0 Beta 9 Hotfix 6 (1.0.137)

• Fixed a bug which resulted in other mods being patched multiple times
• Fixed another source of potentially lobby desyncs

[eternal mauve]

i copied and pasted into notepad lol

wait

[hearty frost]

Ow that makes so much more sense

[barren rover]

NEW HOT FIX? 🗣️

[solid pivot]

If you want an instantly closed ticket, go ahead :)

[eternal mauve]

hehehehe :P

[solid pivot]

Why should this be anything weird?

Its a message about what AC did

Dont you want falldamage perk to work?

[hearty frost]

^

Although I am curios why it jumble up the changes like that?

[solid pivot]

Adding a * FallDamageMultiplier to different values related to calculating fall damage isnt out of the ordinary

[barren rover]

Is it applying multiplier to fall damage (hence the negative health like looking values)?

[eternal mauve]

I do! However it seems to me like it was trying to do one thing multiple times or whatever... and im in the midst of trying to figure out why my fall damage is severely increased

[solid pivot]

Because of stuff like that?

-48.5f * multiplier

-45f * multiplier

-40f * multiplier

[eternal mauve]

Oh!!! I see, so its multiplying damage for each kind of possible fall

[solid pivot]

damage?

fall height

else you would never die from falling by levelling just once

[eternal mauve]

I see

[barren rover]

is fall damage clamped?

[solid pivot]

you see how its calculated right there

🤷‍♂️

[barren rover]

ur right, i do

[eternal mauve]

I dont fully understand my own issue though, my fall damage is broken even though I dont think i changed anything in your configs (i only changed the percentage of change to be lower).

[solid pivot]

its either 30, 50, 80 or 100 (kill)

[barren rover]

Why like that instead of just multiplying distance by some constant?

[solid pivot]

I dont increase or decrease fall damage at all

[eternal mauve]

interesting, that means people with 101 health cant die from any height

[solid pivot]

I only increse the height you can fall from

As I stated, I do this because all other things would mean to make NO fall deadly

as you would always end up being criticall injured and heal

Only damage = 100 will kill

[eternal mauve]

makes sense

[hearty frost]

Actually if it's clamped to health wouldn't that mean the increased health from LGU make you immortal to fall dmg and leave you what's left from over 100?

[solid pivot]

If you have 30HP and get 80 Damage you wont die

You will have 5HP and be critically injured

[eternal mauve]

thats what i was thinking yeah.

[solid pivot]

100 can instantly kill

[hearty frost]

GODMODE ENABLED from falldmg anyway xD

[barren rover]

Critical injury second wind lol

[solid pivot]

wait, it changed actually

All damage 50 or greater can kill

[eternal mauve]

so different things happen depending on the fall, its not really a matter of you changing the fall damage

[solid pivot]

20 likes left for page 1 top rated :3

[hearty frost]

MARKIPLIER WHERE ARE YOU >:D

[solid pivot]

I find this so funny

totally broken mod doing nothing more than 1 line of code and a bad attempt at syncing weather

[hearty frost]

Youtubers and Sheep People to blame for it tbh 😛

[swift merlin]

Does AC have a way to increase stamina regeneration?

[hearty frost]

People just follow trends like the masses 😛

[barren rover]

no

[hearty frost]

No. manage your stamina better >:D

[barren rover]

But stamina drain perk does effectively the same thing

[hearty frost]

Unless @solid pivot adds it in?

[swift merlin]

😿

[eternal mauve]

@solid pivot One thing though, without changing the base fall damage, I kinda got my knees broken after only stepping off the ship. Can this be caused by that issue? (cuz im 90% sure i have no other mods that change base stats)

[eternal mauve]

Adding a stamina regeneration perk would be very difficult to balance

[solid pivot]

Nah, I could deactivate it by standard

So you can decide between stamina usage perks or stamina regen

Or activate all and say f it all

Wouldnt be balanced then tho

[barren rover]

hm, super high speed, super bad stamina drain, crazy regen

[solid pivot]

Stamina Regen basically is both, sprint stamina and jump stamina in one perk.

[hearty frost]

It wouldn't be balanced at all, giving people who want the option though isn't a bad idea 😛

[solid pivot]

So yea, will think about it. Isnt hard to add

[eternal mauve]

do you think the inventory slot perk, as is, is balanced?

[solid pivot]

Actually its so easy I could do it rn in 5 mins

No

[eternal mauve]

damn

[solid pivot]

Not at all

You should limit it to 6/7 slots tbh

Thats what I think would be balanced :3

10 slots are way too much but some people wanted 10 slots

[eternal mauve]

thats what im trying to do yeah. its just a little difficult to tell what xp amounts would be balanced

[ornate zealot]

do the shoes just stop working forever once the effect wears off?

[eternal mauve]

mhm im pretty sure

theyre broken and fun but only for a little bit

[barren rover]

    "landing_speed": {
      "active": true,
      "base": 2.5,
      "change": 0.5,
      "prices": [
        50,
        100,
        100,
        200]

lol

[solid pivot]

change is subtractive btw

[eternal mauve]

yeah sorry but this! want to make sure this is correct

[solid pivot]

in that case

100% base is vanilla

[barren rover]

yes

[solid pivot]

so some other mod is messing around

[barren rover]

2.5 is 2.5x slower

[eternal mauve]

is that how you set it to be?

[barren rover]

yes 😭

[eternal mauve]

do you think its cool!!

i might want to do a similar thing, to have time to give each other a pep talk or something ::P

[barren rover]

I think its interesting, I like to encourage people to contemplate where to spend starting XP

i have everything undercut below vanilla values by default, with a cheap upgrade infront to bring it back up

[pearl badge]

my advanced company is messed up

it says perks on the moon page

and nothing else

[solid pivot]

Yea, I like people engaging with the configuration for perks :)

Its meant for you to create awesome rulesets

[barren rover]

I give 200XP, enough to bring stamina drain, sprint speed, jump height, and jump drain up to vanilla, or they could sacrifice one to get an extra (4th) inventory slot

[fiery glen]

i set it to where you have less then average abilities, like stamina and sprint speed, but give like 4000 exp up front

idk i just like it that way

[barren rover]

I did alot with the loot table configs

[solid pivot]

haha

The beauty of using a standardized data format :3

[barren rover]

Made it so easy to tune planets to exactly where i wanted for price/scrap value ratio

@solid pivot Is there gonna be another hotfix update anytime soon?

[solid pivot]

For what exactly?

[barren rover]

For anything, Im gonna pack up my modpack and if theres another update releasing in like the next hour or something i might as well wait for it to have most recent vers

[solid pivot]

I have stamina regen finished but didnt want to upload for a single feature

guess I could upload it and go to bed 🤷‍♂️

1.1.0 Beta 9 Hotfix 7 (1.0.138)

• Added stamina regen perk

I recommend to not activate it tho. Its activated by default rn anyway

[arctic sonnet]

not recommended cause it isn't bug-proof or somethin'? Or not balanced XP wise so it could be unfair? o- o

[solid pivot]

unbalanced

working like a charm

[arctic sonnet]

just set it to- oh well you already released it

[wide zealot]

Yeah I mentioned this last night

That when you have the stamina and weight perks maxed the default regen balances it

[solid pivot]

You're welcome

[arctic sonnet]

balance it to like - the final 5 levels of backpack

in terms of cost

[barren rover]

Activated by default, So we should deactivate it?

[arctic sonnet]

probably balance it

[solid pivot]

I recommend not using it or balance it

make it 5% or so

its 10% per level rn

6 levels

200, 400, 600, 800, 1200, 1500 cost I think

[barren rover]

1000xp for 20% regen boost, single level 😂

[swift merlin]

so fast? wtf

[barren rover]

Default value 90%

[wide zealot]

So if you disable it and set a specific value what would you recommend?

[solid pivot]

Ofc?

I have a solid foundation :3

100% tbh

[swift merlin]

ty so much!

[arctic sonnet]

I mean... 10% each... that's actually somewhat balanced-ish

[solid pivot]

I liked the stamina stuff as it is rn

[barren rover]

Fastest updating mod on the site

[solid pivot]

I have to test if stamina regen isnt too powerful xD

[wide zealot]

Okay got it ^^

[arctic sonnet]

actually... it depends on how the percentages work

[solid pivot]

I just know my codebase

and its pretty solid by now

[barren rover]

80% default value, 20% boost each time, 200, 500 XP 🤔

[solid pivot]

its a multiplier

100% is vanilla

120% is 20% faster

So if a full recharge of stamina takes 15s

20% faster means it takes 12.5s

[arctic sonnet]

hm .,. ... yeah... gotta be a tad higher...

[solid pivot]

formula being time / %

[arctic sonnet]

in terms of cost

[barren rover]

I think im gonna rebalance everything so that the player gets enough for exactly two perks, they are all one deviation below vanilla, must choose 2 perks to return to vanilla value

[solid pivot]

so 200% is time / 2

200% value is 7.5s

[arctic sonnet]

nb4 potatoe releases perks for jump delay reduction, height reduction, item-grab reach

[solid pivot]

Stamina regen is basically

Sprint time + 4s for standing still

Sprint time + 9s for walking

So if you have the perk for sprint time levelled so you can sprint for 30s

its 34s while standing still