[Deprecated] Advanced Company

[arctic sonnet]

THAT HAPPENS?!

[lost python]

[arctic sonnet]

I played on that map like 5 times!!!

[split mist]

Atlas is really fun and honestly the extra Masked is just interesting as long as you bring a shovel, and since it costs 300 I always save an extra 30 for it

[lost python]

it scared the shit out of me

[arctic sonnet]

what

[split mist]

Okay I need Infernis now apparently

[meager cradle]

Yeah it's intended to happen

[arctic sonnet]

Infernis is a beautiful map

[lost python]

Oh boy enjoy ||dodging giants|| in Infernis

[arctic sonnet]

I love feeding ||rocks|| to the boss

[lost python]

[arctic sonnet]

you know what the company boss would love?

not bottles, not soda

||ROCK AND STONE||

[lost python]

If Jeb cannot appreciate ||rocks|| then he failed his job

[arctic sonnet]

some might say... he gets his ||own rocks off|| when we sell that

[split mist]

Ducky is also an interesting moon ngl. A little plain but I don't dislike it

[hearty frost]

Ether is nice too ❤️ if not said already

[meager cradle]

🦆y

[lost python]

Oh I don't like Ether

[arctic sonnet]

gotta look that up real quick..

[lost python]

But it did seem interesting

[arctic sonnet]

what in the colorful mess is ether

[meager cradle]

A colorful mess

[lost python]

Now how do I balance the scrap value incentive for the custom moons i have

[split mist]

Also, has anyone else noticed some moons just randomly have the Christmas dropship still

[arctic sonnet]

For extra spice

[lost python]

what

none of my moons have that i think

or maybe i was not paying attention enough

[split mist]

Yeah it seems like most moons that use LE/LECore have it

[meager cradle]

I think it's a default for LE maps atm, there is a way to set it back to default on the map maker's end (see Wesley's maps as an example)

[lost python]

I'm gonna say this now though, ||Acidir has lots of scrap amount than Etern for some reason||

Despite the latter supposedly being post Titan

[split mist]

Also, fair warning, Atlas Abyss says its danger rating S but it really isn't in my experience

More of a B or A

Mainly Masked you gotta watch out for

Bring a shovel, you'll be fine

[meager cradle]

Give them a nice boop

[arctic sonnet]

And then they sprint past your hit and just snag you

[lost python]

Me when Assurance is D but it's harder than March/Offense:

[split mist]

Strafe sideways nerd

[arctic sonnet]

I swear

sometimes they sprint for 4 seconds

[lost python]

and most of my mansion spawns on early moons have been in assurance

[arctic sonnet]

other times they will sprint through 3 entire hallways

[meager cradle]

I have never seen Mansion in the free moons lmao

[split mist]

I just realized I'm an idiot, I'm sitting here trying to figure out if MaskedEnemyOverhaul's new compat with AC is working properly

[arctic sonnet]

I've seen it like 5 times total

[split mist]

I forgot to install MaskedEnemyOverhaul

[arctic sonnet]

2 times I've seen mansion was on experimental

which is apparently rare as fuck

[meager cradle]

Oops

[lost python]

well if you see the girl in experimentation, that means you should just close the game

[arctic sonnet]

this may be unpopular, but I find the girl to be one of the most balanced and fun enemies to go against

up there with bracken

[lost python]

Until Diversity mod comes into play that is

[arctic sonnet]

I recently had to remove diversity cause I don't know how it'd play with the other 60+ mods ;w;

[solid pivot]

Moon names will change slightly btw

[lost python]

change slightly?

[solid pivot]

but it will be consistent between weather and price stuff

I used different names for checking both

It will still log the names in the log

[arctic sonnet]

honestly you know what... diversity shouldn't.... fail....

I'mma re-add it and hope nothing conflicts with anything

[split mist]

From what I've heard Diversity is surprisingly compatible

But of course that isn't 100%

[lost python]

Haven't encountered problems with Diversity

[arctic sonnet]

other than the ||God damn ridiculous amount of darkness intensity... which makes it unfun||

[lost python]

Though my group just became insanely scared of the Ghost Girl now and they refuse to play chase with her :(

[lost python]

you can configure that

[arctic sonnet]

I know but jesus

defaultly it SHOULDN'T be like that

[lost python]

yeah by default it's lmao

[arctic sonnet]

what do they expect?

Everyone to have to buy flashlights early and suffer from the basic loot bug?

My first purchase is always a shovel

[split mist]

Well TME is working at least, just had a Masked man emote on me

[arctic sonnet]

Better to have the answer to half the enemies than to have light

[split mist]

And then try to take my spleen

[lost python]

wait

what did you say

MASKED CAN EMOTE?

[arctic sonnet]

Yup

with the overhaul mod

[split mist]

Yup, new feature of TME

[arctic sonnet]

that shit got me

[lost python]

holy fuck

[arctic sonnet]

no joke

[lost python]

[arctic sonnet]

I Rounded the corner

[split mist]

You don't even need Overhaul, just TooManyEmotes

[arctic sonnet]

said "is that a mimic? You fake?"

and they literally

emoted

and said "No, you're crazy"

[lost python]

[arctic sonnet]

I SWEAR

the skinwalkers mod has fucking AI

[split mist]

[arctic sonnet]

you can't say it otherwise

there's no god damn way in 3+ hours of playing

it chose THAT

as a response to me saying "You fake?"

[split mist]

My friends have just decided to constantly say "I'm a skinwalker!" whenever walking around

Which sounds like it'd be great to get the Masked to say it, but it isn't

[lost python]

I mean my friend literally heard the coil head that he was staring at, with my voice, say "that's fucked up" after spotting the bracken by the doorway he was staring at

[arctic sonnet]

omfg automod..

[split mist]

I had a pack of 3 baboon hawks say "Why are there so many baboon hawks?" in my friend's voice

[arctic sonnet]

My last message was auto-blocked 🤣

Ahem-

"I'm about to say the most generic [fun stuff] when I'm alone to [mess around] with my friends"

there automod - happy?

-w-

[split mist]

God I love Ouija Board as well, now I just need a Spirit Box item

That lets you talk to spectating players but with interference

[arctic sonnet]

I hated the ouija board

It needs to be a spirit box or some SCP-like grammaphone

because when I say like "What enemy is in there?" and they try to tell me "nutcracker"?

that damn board will take 2 ingame hours

just to spell the bloody thing out

the board's needle needs to move faster

like, 5x faster

[lost python]

I am enjoying the exorcism contract in LGU

[arctic sonnet]

I haven't touched the recent updates

is it gud?

[lost python]

oh it fucking is

they did the fixes already on most bugs iirc

so i have it updated now

[arctic sonnet]

how is the hacking one? Or bomb one?

[lost python]

we only did the exorcism and bomb one since we had no time left for game as a group

[split mist]

oh hey peanut

wrong place buddy

[arctic sonnet]

I loved this mod, until I realized how loud the damn concrete noise was...

The volume of staring at it and its movement needs to be toned down like 5 db

[split mist]

APPARENTLY THERE WAS A BRACKEN BEHIND ME

HE GOT STUCK ON THE DOOR

[arctic sonnet]

HEY - IT'S ME - GOKU

[split mist]

HOLY FUCK I ALMOST DIED

welp this is my life now, I'm not getting out

[wide zealot]

I'm not a fan of the Goku bracken mod tbh

[split mist]

[wide zealot]

It's too scuffed

[arctic sonnet]

I'm only not a fan of its death music

the rest is a joy lol

[split mist]

This is fucked

bro

go away

[lost python]

Hoping this doesn't increase further

[arctic sonnet]

just give him a stare for a little

[split mist]

I CAN'T CUZ OF PEANUT

[arctic sonnet]

This is mine ;w;

[lost python]

I am trying to just keep it vanilla + AC and LGU for the most part

[wide zealot]

I refuse to use LGU honestly

[lost python]

majority of the mods i got for sp profile are qol, scrap, moons, and fixes

[split mist]

uh so peanut can't get me on this barrel apparently

[pulsar tangle]

I'm at 80 D:

[arctic sonnet]

like 6-7 are moons, 3-4 are upgrade-related

[split mist]

oh great lovely

my favorite

[arctic sonnet]

a few meme ones are in there

fart reverb landmine, goku

at least 20 of the mods are QOL

[wide zealot]

I had over 60 mods then I cleared my mod list a bit cus some mods started breaking shit

Lol

[arctic sonnet]

I love me some QOL

[wide zealot]

so now my profile with AC is 55, without it is 57

I prefer the one with AC, just hope flip fixes the bug soon where reserved breaks when you die and resurrect back in the ship

[lost python]

My sp profile aims to be progression based

so this mod is honestly perfect

[wide zealot]

the flashlight toggle implementation is better than how other mods handle it tbh

[split mist]

[wide zealot]

I'm glad FixCentipedeLag is no longer needed, PathfindingLagFix added a better implementation that doesn't kill them outright with the latest update

FixCentipedeLag would also cause desyncs cus of that

[lost python]

anyone tried Celest moon

[wide zealot]

While I would see the Snare Flea dead my friends would see it stuck walking in place trying to run away

Lol

[split mist]

Okay can confirm, MaskedEnemyOverhaul cosmetics still broken when AC is installed
At least in singleplayer
Masked enemy had none on when encountered

Hmm, y'all like Etern and say it's good? I'm a little hesitant on ||Nutcrackers outside on a Desert level||, feels a little odd

[split mist]

I haven't tried Celest, but being made by the same creator as Orion and Aquatis, I have high hopes for it

[lost python]

I mean... ||Spiders outside of Infernis|| is also mind boggling

[split mist]

Yeah but ||spiders|| really like warmth IRL so it makes sense. As someone with several ||pet tarantulas||

[lost python]

Acidir has no special quirks aside from ||Masked spawning outside|| but god damn it has lots of loot

[lost python]

That's knowledge I did not know

[split mist]

In real life, many species much prefer extra humidity as well, but I mean, ||bunker spiders|| look like desert ||spiders|| not gonna lie

[lost python]

I wanna know how I can balance Celest in terms of scrap value with the custom moons that I have so yeah

[split mist]

Valid

[lost python]

what the fuck are the tier 3 vanilla moons cooking

[split mist]

Lmao

[lost python]

It's day 1 btw

[split mist]

Also, that looks like LethalExpansion's base terminal, I'd personally recommend using LECore depending on what else you're using

[lost python]

I have LECore

I don't have LE on my profile

[split mist]

Hmm

Odd

[lost python]

I think it's LLL that does the separation field

idk tho

[steep niche]

Could you share what are you putting in the AC Moon config to show in the terminal?
Gonna add some of these moons to my list

[lost python]

Sure

[frozen elm]

Does LECore meet the requirements of maps depending on LE?

[split mist]

It does, if you have both LE and LECore installed LECore disables LE

These are the ones I'm currently using but I'm uninstalling Ducky since its not quite as interesting as others on this list

[wide zealot]

Just like how AC disables MoreCompany when installed

[frozen elm]

Ahh I see

[steep niche]

Thanks

[split mist]

Currently looking at checking out Infernis, Etern, Acidir, Celest, and Budapest

[lost python]

@steep niche This is my current custom moons list for my Singleplayer profile. I am currently trying to balance the moon prices and scrap value based on their risk and reward

[steep niche]

Thanks, time to test

[lost python]

Another good thing about Infernis, Acidir, and Etern is that, they have custom scraps

per moon

so moon themed scraps pretty much, you won't see them anywhere but that specific moon

[split mist]

Ooh neat

[modern temple]

lol, who else was waiting for someone to make a mod like this? Someone has made a blink mod to add more horror when dealing with Coilheads. https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Orion/DontBlink/https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Orion/DontBlink/

The horror aspects of the game seem to be really getting dialed up of recent. Really makes having AC a must have mod.

[frozen elm]

Soooo am I a dummy, or can anyone else get AC's Item menu to actually apply custom pricing to modded items?

[hearty frost]

Got to use internal names

[frozen elm]

I thought I found them, but apparently not

[arctic sonnet]

In the config I had to tell core to not disable things so I could modify a few values 😓

[lost python]

Anyone knows what causes this to happen?

[wide zealot]

I think that's a vanilla game thing is it not?

[lost python]

Does it happen in vanilla? I haven't seen this kind of spam before

[wide zealot]

I thought so, I thought this was one of the logs that LogNeuter gets rid of but I could be wrong

[frozen elm]

This would be kind of nice, in MP its a little jarring to see a flashlight cone coming out of your friend's chests lol

[hallow mortar]

I agree with this idea

[eternal ivy]

That's how it is in vanilla though.

The beam I mean.

[hallow mortar]

Still would be a nice touch

[hard socket]

for a nice torch

[trim lily]

gettint error unity network config mismatch what does it mean?

[merry valve]

anyone know if peeper from lategame upgrades works with Advanced Company even if i have more company on as well?

[lost python]

You might have config conflicts with the host you're trying to join

[trim lily]

but i shared my list to them wtf

[lost python]

MoreCompany gets killed when ran with AdvancedCompany so it does not boot at all

[merry valve]

ok great, i just have it for the cosmetics

[lost python]

Yeah I encountered that issue as well for some fucking reason. Try to send your profile to them

[merry valve]

thanks for answering

[trim lily]

that what i did, which config could be the culprit?

[lost python]

Not sure

It could be a server side config or something

Maybe make them import your profile as a new profile instead of updating profile

and if it doesn't work, make a new profile code

if all else fails, i have no more idea

make sure no one uninstalls a mod or change any config to test if it works

[delicate robin]

not sure if advancedcompany is causing this issue but whenever we exit the the session then reconnect we (not the host) are unable to enter facilities and scan using right click and bepinex log spams this error (Everything works flawlessly when connecting for the first time or restarting the whole game)

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
Dissonance.Audio.Playback.VoicePlayback.get_IsActive () (at <71dd734e1ae34dcbb7fcdfa8af2afae2>:IL_0000)
Dissonance.RemoteVoicePlayerState.get_IsConnected () (at <71dd734e1ae34dcbb7fcdfa8af2afae2>:IL_0000)
Dissonance.RemoteVoicePlayerState.get_IsSpeaking () (at <71dd734e1ae34dcbb7fcdfa8af2afae2>:IL_0000)
AdvancedCompany.UI.DeathScreen.Update () (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/UI/DeathScreen.cs:114)
(wrapper dynamic-method) HUDManager.DMDHUDManager::Update(HUDManager)

i can share the full logoutput if need be

[lost python]

You need to restart your game whenever that happens

It frequently happens in our case as well, not sure if AC has something to do with it however

Edit: I read the log sent, maybe AC does have something going on

[hearty frost]

Dissonance VOIP is a vanilla issue I thought?

Especially when modded moons have lots of audio going on or you have mods with audio.

[delicate robin]

ahh thats unfortunate, i was thinking it might be some mod conflict but cant really see it in the logs

[lost python]

Dissonance.RemoteVoicePlayerState.get_IsSpeaking () (at <71dd734e1ae34dcbb7fcdfa8af2afae2>:IL_0000)
AdvancedCompany.UI.DeathScreen.Update () (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/UI/DeathScreen.cs:114)

I don't know what this is but it has AC on it so I think Potatoe can look at it when he's in debugging mode. Right now, he's in development mode

[delicate robin]

might be the skinwalkers? we have
AlwaysHearActiveWalkies
SkinWalkers
YippeeMod
WalkieUse
for audio mods but not sure ahaha

[lost python]

Do you have DissonanceLagFix by any chance?

[hearty frost]

With this I used to have a similar issue when using Coroner or RankEXP

[hearty frost]

I know Skinwalkers makes VOIP go nuts sometimes

[delicate robin]

nope, we dont have dissonancelagfix

[lost python]

hmm yeah we don't have skinwalkers either

but we DO have walkieuse

not sure how related it is

[hearty frost]

Is WalkieUse just a bind for when it's in inventory?

[lost python]

yeah

hence unsure if it's even related

[hearty frost]

Try disabling AlwaysHearActiveWalkies maybe see if anything improves @delicate robin

[delicate robin]

will try it out when my friends are up, but is there a way to run 2 lethal company clients on the same account so i can locally test it?

[hearty frost]

Not through steam no

[delicate robin]

might try some stuff later when i wake up, thanks thanks

[lost python]

You have to do some wizardry to do this

#1184708473800364083

[delicate robin]

thanks! will try this out

[hearty frost]

That's an awesome shout 😮 ❤️

You're a wizard

[lost python]

I don't know the details about it (since I haven't had a need to test multiplayer with myself yet) so if you got questions, ask in the thread itself

[quartz pawn]

The reinforced legs and climbing speed perks don't seem to be working

[hearty frost]

Are you using any other mods that alter those aspects like BetterLadder+

[quartz pawn]

No I tested it on a clean install

[trim lily]

getting this when trying to join or host, shared my list trhough code on R2, even shared as a file ,nothing work, and we have the same setting in

[eternal mauve]

Anyone know any common inventory slot incompatabilities???

I'm runnin my modpack and my inventory slot size just isnt setting to 4 (though ive configured it to do so)

the inventory slot perk just isnt working either (its not showing although its active)

[eternal mauve]

alright, i did a COMPLETELY fresh install and ive ran the game multiple times. What am i doing wrong?

config files just arent being created apparently

[opaque plank]

You can edit them in-game.

[pearl spire]

I’m pretty sure it’s already built into Skinwalkers

[wide zealot]

It is

[pearl spire]

Thought so

[pure jasper]

configs are handled entirely in game now. They're all in the screen that pops up when you start a lobby

[pearl spire]

It’ll be so much easier once Lethal Company has a more centralized modding scene lol

[pure jasper]

in the hosting settings, toggle to make sure xp is set properly, then if you want to start with 4 slots, you need to modify the json

[eternal mauve]

AH, damn cant believe I missed that! I thought it was just another way to edit the configs

[eternal mauve]

Oh crap wait, can I still share the mod settings with friends (without needing them to go do stuff in the files) if I edit the json?

[pure jasper]

pretty sure only the host needs to do it since it's host settings

[eternal mauve]

Oh dang, wait that means modpacks can't use advanced company to edit starting inventory slot size anymore.

Right @opaque plank ?

[opaque plank]

Ummm.

You can make presets on it.

[eternal mauve]

Will those save to modpacks?

[opaque plank]

I don't know, I haven't used this mod enough to give an answer.

[eternal mauve]

ASFFASNUSFNS

im so sorry 😭

shmicking pinged the wrong personnnnn

asashbsahbdhs

[eternal mauve]

@solid pivot i meant to ping you on this so sorry for the pings to everyone sjanjnhfsbhfbds

[vagrant gull]

yes you can

[flat tiger]

hey will it be possible to change some of the UI changes? such as the death screen, performance, the updated terminal, I like them I just prefer the vanilla one more

[eternal mauve]

how?

[vagrant gull]

just save the preset?

[eternal mauve]

it saves to the modpack?

[vagrant gull]

yes

ignore my pack name

[flat tiger]

boymoder commpany

[eternal mauve]

do you know how to change starting inventory size then? :P

Totally fine if you don't, I'll have to look through the files and figure it out myself

First time looking through mod files

[arctic sonnet]

I will not

Name: noticed

[vagrant gull]

    "inventory_slots": {
      "active": true,
      "base": 4.0,
      "change": 1.0,
      "prices": [
        1000,
        1500,
        2500,
        3500,
        5000,
        7500
      ]
    }```
line 328

its much easier to config in-game if you want

[hearty frost]

In-game when starting save, go to perks. Default is 300% = 3 slots. so for example 400% would be 4 slots

[eternal mauve]

ACK! sfasfhnf... thanks for that, I knew I was missing something.

[eternal mauve]

line 328? Is this referencing a specific file?

The json file I found had about 10 lines total (cause I didnt change much in the preset)

[vagrant gull]

BepInEx/config/advancedcompany/presets/server/Default.json

might be a different line for your config, idk if its consistent

[eternal mauve]

Possible!

Anyways sorry for the mess, should have tested out stuff/looked deeper a bit more before asking for help

[outer timber]

Got a mask with value of 187 on eclipsed titan. I mean yeah, weather multipliers but so much

[ornate zealot]

is there any other items that can go in the player's chest slot besides the bulletproof vest?

[valid flume]

no

[earnest estuary]

guys mods arent making configs like they are supposed to (eg., advanced company)

[brazen quail]

AC doesn't make configs anymore, change the settings ingame

[earnest estuary]

I want to change default player perks

to inv size 5 with my modpack

what was the damn need to do that

[patent turtle]

you have to generate it ingame
when you host a new save, use "Save as new preset" and give it a name.
it will be saved in:
BepInEx\config\advancedcompany\presets\server\Your_Preset_Name.json

[earnest estuary]

makes my life harder

lol

[brazen quail]

Host a game and the settings will come up

Then set those to default

[meager cradle]

Ah so that makes sense why it's ignoring my config setup, good to note

[wide zealot]

The removal of the cfg's was a good thing anyways, cus it used to default to the cfg and you'd have to manually select your cosmetic profile you saved everytime lol

[eternal mauve]

Learned something today, MoreEmotes isn’t compatible with AC?

[wide zealot]

More Emotes sucks anyways, it has animator conflicts and the dependency while nice can sometimes cause game desyncs

[earnest estuary]

is badass company a good replacement

i have them both running

[wide zealot]

I haven't tried Badass Company, I use TooManyEmotes though

[eternal mauve]

Damn that’s sad af, my group LOVES the signs :(

[brazen quail]

Currently having an issue with Advanced Company that for some reason is preventing me from using the Invite Friends button, I'm going to try disabling the BepInEx console and see if it's an issue with that

[meager cradle]

I use toomanyemotes as well lols

[earnest estuary]

Badass company is fuckin awesome

best emotes mod imo but can be buggy

[wide zealot]

Same, I hope flip adds a sign emote into TooManyEmotes lol

[eternal mauve]

How many emotes in too many though?

I liked keeping it simple

[earnest estuary]

is that a alternative or addon

[wide zealot]

Cus the issue with More Emotes is the sign emote doesn't have a bad word filter lol

So someone can get you banned on Twitch or something super easily

[earnest estuary]

look all i want more emotes is for the twerk

thats it

and the middle finger

[wide zealot]

Lmfao

[earnest estuary]

is there others that supplement

[wide zealot]

Sadly I don't think so

My group stopped caring for those emotes anyways and just started using the signs

XD

[brazen quail]

RubberRoss and co are currently developing an emotes mod that could replace a lot, we'll have to see

[wide zealot]

All More Emotes needs to do is push an update that fixes the animator conflicts

[meager cradle]

So if I edit the default preset in-game with the settings that I want for my group
Will that saved port over to whoever I send it do when I do profile sharing via r2modman?

Just asking to be extra sure

[outer timber]

Meanwhile twitch almost became new onlyfans

[wide zealot]

Yep

[meager cradle]

Coolios, I figured that was the case since the cosmetics already do that but wanted to ask to be sure

[wide zealot]

Yeah Twitch had that big moment where they showed how out of touch they are

Lol

[outer timber]

Question about the AC. Will dance and point finger be rebinded to F1, F2 instead of 1, 2 because 1-9 are quick switch slots or it'll be like that?

[brazen quail]

Yeah the Invite Friends button isn't working when I have AC enabled , probably a conflict of some sort but I'm not sure what would cause it

[wide zealot]

I always have them bound to that anyways

Cus I used Hotbarplus in my old profile

Lol

[meager cradle]

You'll need to manually rebind dance & point from what I recall, you can do that in-game as of v45 anywho

[outer timber]

Also it'll be cool if shovel weighted 8lb as in v49 by default. Yes, it takes 2 seconds to change the values but nevertheless

[meager cradle]

It actually did for one of the hotfixes for a brief moment, and suddenly this most hotfix reverted that fix

[wide zealot]

Probably was unintentional, but it's really not hard to fix it lol

[meager cradle]

Oh ye defo was accidental, but good to keep it noted so it can be fixed for the future

[echo bone]

I was looking at the config and I realized that the perk to deal more damage (Strong Arms I guess) is not there, is it intentional? How much does it increase your damage per level?

[eternal mauve]

Are you looking in config in files or in game?

(Cause the files are useless now)

And a lot of the perks have been renamed

[echo bone]

Config files. I was just trying to find it there because it says the values of the perks as opposite to the in-game config

[hallow mortar]

Config files are obsolete

Delete them all and use the in game config editors

[echo bone]

Okay but how much does the perk increase your damage?

[hallow mortar]

It tells you when you select it in the perk menu

[eternal mauve]

I had a really similar issue to yours and i think it just takes a bit more of a careful look at the simple-looking perk settings - everything that used to to be possible with config files should still be possible from within there.

[vagrant pebble]

I'm always looking to fix bugs as they come up, anything in particular your group has noticed?

[arctic sonnet]

Which ones

[hallow mortar]

The entire advanced company config folder

Let it do a full reset and then only edit config in game using advanced company's menus

[trim lily]

hey, im having a strange issue when trying to host or join i get "unity network config mismatch", i shared the list twice with differents codes, also tried with sharing the list as a file. Client where on tunderstore me on R2, made them switch to R2, doesnt work either
Everyone have the same configs i checked, no way to host or join, weirdest thing is that they could join each other but not me, and after this, THEY shared to me the SAME list that I send to them (by generating their own code) and it worked, any idea why?

could it be my R2 profile buggin ? @solid pivot

[earnest estuary]

of badass company?

[vagrant pebble]

yeah

[trim lily]

any idea ? #1186884307332108339 message

[vagrant pebble]

oh I don't have any insight into advanced company

and it's closed source anyway so it's not like I could even check

[eternal mauve]

Codes don't actually save EVERYTHING in your version modpack. When you sent them a code, you sent them a version of your modpack without some kind of config/file edit error you must have made.

What manual edits to the code/configs did you make?

[trim lily]

error ? like what ?

i didnt edit anything special like only the ingame config like save in profile, removed vision enhancer, some weather multipliyer things like that

[solid pivot]

You are unable to use ILSpy? How are you modding then?

Blind?

[vagrant pebble]

I mean, I'm not gonna go through hoops like that to help someone who close sourced their mod

just my values tbh

[eternal mauve]

save in profile is probably it

[solid pivot]

Good that I add compability to closed source mods as well :3

[vagrant pebble]

same

[trim lily]

but when they check their ingame setting, since i shared them my list it was also set as save in profile like it make no sense,

[vagrant pebble]

but you just seem a tad annoyed that I don't appreciate mods being closed source

[solid pivot]

NetworkConfig mismatch is a vanilla unity error

you have different networkprefab lists

I stated so in the FAQ

[pure jasper]

Are any of these emote mods incompatible with AdvancedCompany?

TooManyEmotes
More_Emotes
BadAssCompany

[trim lily]

what does it mean?

[eternal mauve]

more emotes apparently is... unfortunately

the rest should be fine

[hearty frost]

It's sort of compatible, but will break some animation from time to time. So use at your own pleasure basically 😛

[eternal mauve]

sucks for me because I primarily play with friends using More_Emotes - getting them to play my modpack without those ones will be difficult

[solid pivot]

Make sure everybody is using the same mods and versions

[eternal mauve]

Does it break the animation permanently/force us to restart or anything?

[solid pivot]

I will add even more meaningful errors later

[trim lily]

but like how could it be different since i shared though R2 with multiple code, and also by sharing the direct file?

[hearty frost]

If it breaks you got to rejoin yeah.

But it doesn't break in sense of stopping you doing stuff, just messes up animations visually so far when I played with it.

[trim lily]

and i also manually checked the config/modlist its the same

[solid pivot]

Specifically telling you the names of those prefabs

Is this error consistent?

[trim lily]

and even more, after they added MY list as a new profile and sharing it to me as a new code, it work

[solid pivot]

Or can you try to connect multiple times and it works sometimes?

[trim lily]

yea 100% with this specific profil

[solid pivot]

So you have to wait for the next beta which will hopefully have the added feature to find the culprit

[hearty frost]

Few of us earlier recommended not turning on Profile saves for now, but I don't think they listened 😛

[eternal mauve]

I guess but ma friends have been using the emotes a lot so if animation breaks a lot that’s gonna hurt the game I think

[solid pivot]

Profile saves is causing this? Dont see how

To be more precise

FastBufferWriter fastBufferWriter = new FastBufferWriter(1024, Allocator.Temp);
        using (fastBufferWriter)
        {
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in ProtocolVersion, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in TickRate, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in ClientConnectionBufferTimeout, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in ConnectionApproval, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in LoadSceneTimeOut, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in EnableTimeResync, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in EnsureNetworkVariableLengthSafety, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in RpcHashSize, default(FastBufferWriter.ForEnums));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in ForceSamePrefabs, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in EnableSceneManagement, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in RecycleNetworkIds, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in NetworkIdRecycleDelay, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in EnableNetworkLogs, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            return Convert.ToBase64String(fastBufferWriter.ToArray());
        }

This is the stuff written in NetworkConfig

[hearty frost]

Someone was saying earlier that they made a profile and their friend made a profile and they couldn't join each other but when using default it worked again. If I remember correctly, but they said a maybe.

[solid pivot]

Some stuff is given as the same as the game sets it

EnableSceneManagement, RecycleNetworkIdle, NetworkIdRecycleDelay, EnableNetworkLogs etc.

[patent turtle]

I find deleting some mods from a profile can do it.
Because locally you still have the config file left over. As where a fresh imported profile will not.

[trim lily]

yea but even then , how could this make sense since, i share my profile to them, they can join each other but not me, then Reshare to me the exact same probleme with a new code, and then it work. Like if the initial cfg is "corrupted" in any way, would make no sense that by sharing it again to me it work

[solid pivot]

ITs even a bit more

using (fastBufferWriter)
        {
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in ProtocolVersion, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe("15.0.0");
            if (ForceSamePrefabs)
            {
                foreach (KeyValuePair<uint, NetworkPrefab> item in Prefabs.NetworkPrefabOverrideLinks.OrderBy((KeyValuePair<uint, NetworkPrefab> x) => x.Key))
                {
                    uint value = item.Key;
                    fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in value, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
                }
            }
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in TickRate, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in ConnectionApproval, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in ForceSamePrefabs, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in EnableSceneManagement, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in EnsureNetworkVariableLengthSafety, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
            fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in RpcHashSize, default(FastBufferWriter.ForEnums));
            if (cache)
            {
                m_ConfigHash = fastBufferWriter.ToArray().Hash64();
                return m_ConfigHash.Value;
            }
            return fastBufferWriter.ToArray().Hash64();
        }

And the key part is this

            if (ForceSamePrefabs)
            {
                foreach (KeyValuePair<uint, NetworkPrefab> item in Prefabs.NetworkPrefabOverrideLinks.OrderBy((KeyValuePair<uint, NetworkPrefab> x) => x.Key))
                {
                    uint value = item.Key;
                    fastBufferWriter.WriteValueSafe(in value, default(FastBufferWriter.ForPrimitives));
                }
            }

Thats where the mismatch happens

I recommend redownloading all mods

There might be an assetbundle which has mismatched versions

As NetworkObjectIDs in my mod rn are replaced everytime I reexport them

Havent fixed this yet

"Fixed"

I want it to be that way

[patent turtle]

I see ty for the explanation

[solid pivot]

So people are not playing with different AssetBundles

So, clear your mod cache, redownload the mods

And later I will be able to show you exactly which prefab had a mismatch

I can show in both logs a list of all network prefabs

[trim lily]

will try that, should i also redo all the cfg or can i copy paste them?

[solid pivot]

And how it came to a NetworkConfig mismatch

Cfg shouldnt have any impact as long as the mods in question are not deciding to add a NetworkPrefab or not depending on some values :D

I might have to create an own wiki page about that error

It happens a lot with other mods too

Like I mean A LOT

everytime you have "An error occured"

[hearty frost]

@trim lily Do me a favour, go into your appdata for LC and delete any mod folders.

to locate this ---- Press WinKey + R and type "%appdata%" then go to "C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\LocalLow\ZeekerssRBLX\Lethal Company"

[solid pivot]

Its basically NetworkConfig mismatch

[trim lily]

already done multiple times

even did a freshinstall of the game

i always do this after huge change /updates

[hearty frost]

Do it before making new modlist, and launching thunderstore. Also as Potatoe said. Clear the modcache.

[solid pivot]

I know that suffering from trying to play TheMostLethalCompany

Was redownloading the game and everything

removed Thunderstore completly

And this was at a time I didnt even know why the host disconnected me xD

[trim lily]

yea it was done before doing the list and R2 was off, only thing left is thee cache

but weird thing is that its a really fresh profile/list that i made yesterday

[solid pivot]

And this meaningful errors will in the long run be very helpful to troubleshoot.

[patent turtle]

Yesss
Pls

[hearty frost]

Theeeeee companyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[solid pivot]

:D

[trim lily]

should i fully uninstall R2 and thunderstore before redoing the list

[solid pivot]

Good question, never used R2

I basically deleted everything in %appdata%/Thunderstore Mod Manager/

Which will remove all profiles as well

Might be enough to

delete in DataFolder/LethalCompany/cache

[trim lily]

maybe that r2 is the culprit then, since when they Reshare to me (from thunderstore)the same list that i shared before (from R2) it worked

[solid pivot]

Weird

[trim lily]

and they could join each other instantly when i shared them my code (they were both on thunderstore)

[solid pivot]

I sadly dont know much about the differences of R2 and TS

[trim lily]

aight will try what you told me, thx for helping

[solid pivot]

No problem. I will see if I can add the even more meaningful message in next update

At least you might be able to get some mod name :3

[trim lily]

would be very helpfull

[solid pivot]

At least when its an item prefab I can try to GetComponent<GrabbableObject>() and give out the class name I found

So it would show SomeModName.ClassName

[hearty frost]

Would this be like a compatibility check? 😮

[lost python]

Oh hi Potatoe, do you know why this happens?

[solid pivot]

No, it will show you which prefabs mismatch

[trim lily]

btw isn't there a mod that tell you what you are missing when getting error? think i isaw smth like that

[hearty frost]

Ah still good though 🙂

[solid pivot]

Seems to be a problem with dissonance not creating a voice object?

[lost python]

For context, I am alone on this lobby

[trim lily]

are you using less than 4 player in setting?

[hearty frost]

There's a mod compatibility mod but that only says what mods are missing, not like anything else if I remember right

[lost python]

So Player 1 to 3 are unavailable

[solid pivot]

Yea, it will still try to create a voice

Error probably is above all of that

[lost python]

No, that creates a different set of errors

Hmm I couldn't scroll back up past that since it just spammed it a lot

[solid pivot]

Find the log file :D

[lost python]

was replaced 😭

I'll try to recreate it

[trim lily]

pretty sure i also had this randomly once or twice, restarting game/lobby fixed it

[hearty frost]

This is a vanillia error, or Bepin causes it. I wouldn't know but it's present with Bepin only installed.

No mods installed.

[lost python]

so it's a bepin issue

[solid pivot]

Or just vanilla

[lost python]

Damn

[hearty frost]

• Dissonance. It's all Vannila Error.

Is there a way to toggle a dev mode in vanilla game? to actually see? I've always seen this error regardless of no mods. But never been able to check in actual base vanilla.

[lost python]

I hope there will be a mod that fixes this because it does cause fps drops

[lost python]

uh try modded without mods i guess?

[hearty frost]

That's how I got console, with Bepin. I am talking a True dev mode.

[lost python]

Oh, not sure if you can do that

[hearty frost]

I always assumed it's not availble in public release, never been able to figure it out.

[trim lily]

just to be clear, if i delete the cache and profiles, then redownload the list from my previous code i should be fine right? like i dont have to redo the whole list downloading manually

[hearty frost]

The Code saves whatever you had in the list mods and configs

[trim lily]

yea but it will redownload every mod from scratch since the cache is empty

[trim lily]

I dont see how it could carry an error after reDl the mods, since they could join each other instantly from This same code

[hearty frost]

Would you say that the logging being saved to disk is causing the fps drops for you or something else?

[solid pivot]

I guees

Its only an educated guess

It worked for me with TheMostLethalCompany

[solid pivot]

Writing to disk takes CPU and blocks the thread in Unity

So yea, writing to disk will result in stutter and lower FPS

(When its a lot of text)

[lost python]

^

[hearty frost]

Just wondering if they just only log Fatal and leave everything else unsaved. Would it help 😛 Because log spews sometimes I guess

[lost python]

I once had a Player.log that's 100 MB

[hearty frost]

._.

why so smol

[solid pivot]

While playing vanilla I had one with over 500MB I think

So vanilla is a broken mess to begin with

[lost python]

it wasn't a long session but man

[hearty frost]

That's only thing I can think of, I reduced my saved log and it helped a little bit especially when I am hosting.

If I am not hosting, it ain't too bad

[solid pivot]

Have readded and adjusted my cursor menu ascii scrollbar :3

Need to add a lookahead variable tho

Now I add the total amount to the border at the bottom and the current credits top right :3

[ornate zealot]

is there a way to stop the small rug and dart board from showing up as Ship Upgrades instead of Decorations?

[solid pivot]

no

[ornate zealot]

dang

i guess that's alright

[eternal mauve]

is it because theyre designed to be permanent?

[solid pivot]

Always buyable

They use their LC API which enables to set stuff as decor

And rework the store seemingly

to let it show in the decor section

even tho its always buyable

so they are the ones fing around with the terminal

[eternal mauve]

oh I dont think Evaisas LethalThings needs LC API

[solid pivot]

I mean LethalLib

sorry

[eternal mauve]

K, k i see.

[solid pivot]

But disclaimer: HAvent looked at any code yet

[eternal mauve]

no youre probably right

[solid pivot]

oh yea

[eternal mauve]

❤️

[solid pivot]

I can however add a text check for item names

As a quickfix

quick maths

https://tenor.com/view/quick-maths-mans-not-hot-gif-11163522

They could however just add their decor to the rotation

But I know that their dev knows exactly: Its ACs fault

for not using LethalLib

[eternal mauve]

thats quite a niche lil compatability fix :P

cool that you do it anyway :P

[solid pivot]

Yea, I can make it configurable too

So if any mod comes around doing the same stuff you can just add it to a list

[earnest estuary]

1.the emotes dont cancel when getting out or back in planets or transitioning really, which causes bugs like placement of my arms or twisted arms
2. sometimes when I cancel emotes my torso is twisted and on my screen i look normal but to others im twisted, which also doesnt show my arms and such

[vagrant pebble]

well the first part of them not cenceling is intentional, not sure about the other stuff, were you playing with other emote mods? TME and More Emotes both touch the animator directly

[hearty frost]

Don't hate the stanky leg, love the stank leg ._.

[vagrant pebble]

I'll ping you in lethal emotes thread since this might go for a while and I don't wanna take up a different chat room

[hallow mortar]

friend in my game is unable to select perks

liek they pull up the confirmation prompt but but cant actually confirm

they for some reason were given extra carry bags even though they werent selecting it

and they cant select the confirmation prompt on the respec option

[hearty frost]

Did you create a profile and accidentally send it to them?

[hallow mortar]

wdym

i just sent them my r2modman profile

they gave me this error

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
AdvancedCompany.Perks+<>c.<Boot>b17_19 (AdvancedCompany.Network.Messages.Respec message) (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/Perks.cs:211)
AdvancedCompany.Network.Manager+<>cDisplayClass40_0`1[T].<AddListener>b0 (AdvancedCompany.Network.INamedMessage msg) (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/Network/Manager.cs:452)
AdvancedCompany.Network.Manager.Send (AdvancedCompany.Network.INamedMessage message, System.UInt64 clientID) (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/Network/Manager.cs:403)
AdvancedCompany.Terminal.Applications.PerksApplication.<Init>b18_11 () (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/Terminal/Applications/PerksApplication.cs:116)
AdvancedCompany.Terminal.Applications.PerksApplication+<>cDisplayClass19_0.<Confirm>b0 () (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/Terminal/Applications/PerksApplication.cs:219)
AdvancedCompany.Terminal.CursorMenu.Execute () (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/Terminal/CursorMenu.cs:31)
AdvancedCompany.Terminal.Applications.PerksApplication.Update () (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/Terminal/Applications/PerksApplication.cs:336)
AdvancedCompany.Game.MobileTerminal.Update () (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/Game/MobileTerminal.cs:377)
AdvancedCompany.Game.MobileTerminal.Update (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB __instance) (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/Game/MobileTerminal.cs:68)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::Update>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)

couldnt screenshot for whatever reason

[solid pivot]

Thats a respec message tho

[hallow mortar]

they still couldnt select respec though

like they hit enter on confirm and nothing happens

[solid pivot]

Error would have been way up above that btw

[hallow mortar]

they rejoined and it works now

[solid pivot]

There is a player sync issue

[hallow mortar]

weird

[solid pivot]

Thats why I ask for full logs

Cant do anything with the resulting error of an error which happened far above

[hallow mortar]

got thatd be a pain to get her to send me a log lmao

fair though

[solid pivot]

:D

I log a lot in the handshake by now to get that error fixed

[eternal mauve]

Potatoe I haven't really thought about it but could you possibly make whatever is messing with the animation optional or is the issue that you've replaced the animating system?

(which would be fine)

[solid pivot]

???

So you are asking me to remove the portable terminal?

OK, its removed

And now?

Now you will ask me to level perks

[eternal mauve]

lmao nooo

[earnest estuary]

used to but I removed them.

[solid pivot]

I can add compability mode for other mods as well. Compability mode is crippled animations tho

[eternal mauve]

im just wondering how this mod competes with mods that change the animation system

[solid pivot]

But probably wont help when TooManyEmotes is also creating problems

[eternal mauve]

like MoreEmotes and the like

[solid pivot]

as I am using the same route then

I am replacing the animator when not in compability mode.

Because I aim at adding blend trees for swimming animations

Compability mode is using an OverrideController which wont support swimming animations nor typing on portable terminal

[eternal mauve]

for ease of use right? OooooOOOOOH i see how that would work then

[solid pivot]

ease of use? Its simply not possible otherwise

[eternal mauve]

damn you have so much planned for this its crazy

[solid pivot]

without a lot of shenanigans

[vagrant pebble]

isn't that extremely intrusive though? like won't that conflict with most other standard methods of animation replacements?

[solid pivot]

Compability mode at least gives you the portable terminal drawing

[hearty frost]

The Potatoe Plot :3

[vagrant pebble]

I know compat mode exists, but like

[earnest estuary]

oh yeah also

is the badass mod compatibile with advanced companies terminal

it seems broken

[solid pivot]

Whats the problem exactly with compat mode? MoreEmotes dont even have one and replace the animator in every Update

[vagrant pebble]

what? should be

we literally don't touch the animator

[wide zealot]

Forgive me for giving a small rant, but I hate IntroTweaks lol. It always breaks something everytime I try it, always. The only reason I keep wanting to add it to my mod pack is so it aligns the main menu lol

[eternal mauve]

whats that

[vagrant pebble]

I'm less saying there is something wrong with compat mode, and more saying that you shouldn't step further than that since it's liable to break stuff and confuse users

[earnest estuary]

oh yeah also why does LC_API not let me join other friends

i have to remove it

[solid pivot]

I step as far as I want :)

But thanks

[wide zealot]

It's a mod that causes more issues than it's worth tbh, half the time it'll cause the game to freeze on launch and you can't even get to the main menu

Lol

[vagrant pebble]

you don't seem to like to be reasoned with :/

[solid pivot]

Show me how you do layered blend trees with syncing first :)

[vagrant pebble]

sure

[solid pivot]

Looking forward to it

[vagrant pebble]

have at it

cause I actually open source my code

[solid pivot]

Layered 2D Blendtrees

[vagrant pebble]

we literally make our own animator, on top of the existing one to move the bones without actually interfering with what other people do https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/

which means you could theoretically put anything in that animator

and use it just fine

and if you want to transition out of existing animations, create a temp animation which can hold the existing place of the base animators spot, then merge that into your desired animation

if you wanted that as well

[solid pivot]

I know that, still missing support for 2D Blendtrees. I would have to code my own 2d blend trees when there is a solution with unitys animator

Or just use compat mode and tell people they wont get swimming animations when they use compat mode

People dont care anyway, its something only I as the dev of the mod care about.

Nobody ever asked me for swimming animations. Its a me thing

I like my mods to be polished

Which is the reason I added custom holding animations in the first place.

[vagrant pebble]

which personally, I feel creating issues which requires a compat mode to cripple it just to work with other mods, isn't polished

[solid pivot]

Intended play with AC is to only use AC

[vagrant pebble]

ehhh

[solid pivot]

Will forever be like that and wont change :)

[vagrant pebble]

that's not really the spirit of modding

but I guess you do you

[solid pivot]

Good that I am leaving modding :)

[vagrant pebble]

ok?

[earnest estuary]

ye

[vagrant pebble]

I don't know if that's a threat or not

[solid pivot]

No? It was communicated like weeks ago

[earnest estuary]

ye so im gonna do a test on badass and advanced

rq

[vagrant pebble]

you honestly seem pretty talented ngl, you just don't seem to get along with people really well

or at least don't like collaborating

[solid pivot]

I am just not willing to invest 30hrs of my life to get some silly emotes fixed

When I can instead add 3 new items in that time

Compat mode is good enough for now

[vagrant pebble]

well spoiler alert, a lot of people like "silly emotes"

[gloomy scaffold]

i have some other mods enabled with this, just to be sure, is it advanced company that only gives me 3 slots?

or do i need to che0ck my other mods

[vagrant pebble]

5.87 million downloads for just one of the mods

[solid pivot]

"Look, my mod has way more downloads than yours"

Silly argument

[vagrant pebble]

that's not my mod but ok

I was saying people actually like the emote mods

and a lot won't be willing to comprimise

[hearty frost]

@vagrant pebble tbh I dropped most emotes just to use AC :/

[solid pivot]

Argumentum ad populum.

But well, you do you, I guess.

Conflicting philosophies is a thing

Philosophies can co-exist

That you cant accept that shows a lot about you

[vagrant pebble]

yeah

me too dude

[solid pivot]

I am fine with my mod not being compatible with some emote modes

Its a downside of following different philosophies, same with ReservedSlots.

I aim at providing a full new experience

[hearty frost]

Fun fact actually I've been able to bug my shovel into my helmet slot, kinda neat ngl :3

[solid pivot]

Just by installing AC you will get a totally different and new experience, an extended lategame etc.

[hearty frost]

Please don't fix ._.

[solid pivot]

AC isnt meant as a small tiny mod

Its more of a partial conversion

[vagrant pebble]

I understand that, but I just disagree that it means it should come at the cost of other stuff

[solid pivot]

And when I have the time to work on compat, I do.

[vagrant pebble]

but I don't think we're gonna find any common ground on that

[plush fern]

Maybe I missed it but are you leaving modding to work on your own game Potatoe?

[solid pivot]

But asking me to implement 2D Blendtrees myself is a bit much tbh.

Yes @plush fern

Was communicated weeks ago

AdvancedTech is a crossover with the lore of my game already

1.1 will feature a story delving deeper into AdvancedTech :)

[vagrant pebble]

also on that note, like not to switch topics tooo far, but with your mod being close source it's just going to die after you leave modding cause no one will be allowed to upkeep it

[solid pivot]

I will maintain the mod

[plush fern]

Well I hope it all goes well for you! ❤️

[solid pivot]

Its just feature stop

[vagrant pebble]

I see

[solid pivot]

I see 1.1 as feature complete

At least for a while, while I work on my own game

Which wont have this animator stuff

As I will just buy and use Animancer.

They are doing what you are doing but they already have 2D BlendTrees etc.

[vagrant pebble]

personally, I would recommend a different engine for game dev at this point

unity has shown their hand

godot is based

[solid pivot]

Godot is slow

Sadly

I like the idea of Godot very much

[hearty frost]

Is Source an option?

[solid pivot]

And Unreal is too big tbh

And Unreal has no C# I love C# and I love the modability of C#

Managed DLLs are a blessing

[vagrant pebble]

yeah unreal is the worst cause mods are basically non-existant

[solid pivot]

They do exist but well...

Its complicated

[vagrant pebble]

yeah

[solid pivot]

My game will be built from the ground up heavily interfacing for modability

And source of my game will be available

With full documentation

I just feel limited by LC too much

[vagrant pebble]

I mean, it's an early access game

[solid pivot]

Well, I COULD replace the animator with Animancer

[vagrant pebble]

been out for what 3 months?

made by a single dude

[solid pivot]

but thats like investing $100 + a lot of work

If I invest money I can just start my own game. I am not even s ure if the Unity license would allow me to buy an asset and use it in a mod

[vagrant pebble]

uhh it might, arent' dynamic bones paid?

I know ror2 mods are free to use those

[hearty frost]

This is very true, I just hope he working on the audio stuff rn 😛

[vagrant pebble]

sadly I do not think we will ever get wwise or fmod 😔

[solid pivot]

When they are part of the game, you can use it, sure

[vagrant pebble]

oh

you meant buy it and use it in LC

I don't see why not

[solid pivot]

Isnt it somehow limited to the unity engine and publishing a game? :D

[vagrant pebble]

I've never bought a unity asset

[bleak frigate]

no disrespect but i feel in the end it wont be worth it because LC getting that spark of reputation is hard to get and rare. people will stay in LC even if there's a better alternative of it

[solid pivot]

Game would benefit a lot with Animancer as you can add animations with script

[hearty frost]

Something is needed otherwise it's so limited although considering the limitations the game still immensely fun. Do you think modders could make something that intrusive? I don't know if intrusive is right word but yeah, something on those lines for audio with a mod?

[solid pivot]

@bleak frigate I dont really care tbh. I am not making this for money but because its a creative endeavour

I dont care about money

Like, at all

And when I have a game in the end

I can play with my friends

and have fun with

I am happy

I gave some people a fun experience with my game

Some people close to me

Worth more than any money tbh

[vagrant pebble]

I mean at the end of the day, the game wasn't designed with mods in mind, which is "fine". I mean it makes modding rough but I also think expecting a dev, especially a solo dev with little experience to make something robust for modders to use is unreasonable

and stuff like wwise kinda needs to be implemented from the main dev side

without being extremely hacky

and it's not really compatible with base unity audio so you gotta replace all of that

also limitations can be broken if you get creative enough with your code

[solid pivot]

I see, Wwise being free up to $250k? Might have a look at it then

[vagrant pebble]

although I do greatly miss wwise's feature to play a single audio in multiple points :/

makes audio syncing so much more annoying

[solid pivot]

Would you personally prefer fmod or wwise?

[vagrant pebble]

I have experience with wwise

and it's fucking amazing

not much experience with fmod, but I've heard it's pretty competent

[solid pivot]

Of course full audio suites are amazing :3 Unity is offering the barebone minimum

At least it does by now

There was a time without audio mixers

AudioSource only

You had to write your own mixers adding all audio sources manually

[hearty frost]

Is it weird to say, I don't think I've come across either one being used more than the other - do either one excel in an area or both exceptional across board?

[solid pivot]

Horrible times

[vagrant pebble]

that's kinda what I've seen as well, I have bias towards wwise but in general I think they are about the same based on general usage stats

Hi-Fi rush used wwise tho, so it's clearly the superior

[obsidian spoke]

Made a post about a mod bug and got sent here for some reason. :p

[solid pivot]

type rcketboots

I have a fallback in the current version

fallback wont be present in next version tho as you can buy stuff in the portable terminal then

[obsidian spoke]

It worked, thank you.

[solid pivot]

you can type anything close enough to rocketboots

rocetbots

for example

This will only work with portable terminal in the next version

As people shat on my mod for the changes it does to the terminal

So I give them their terminal back

[hallow mortar]

friend isnt able to see my headlamp light

[solid pivot]

Any more info?

[hallow mortar]

ill try to get a log from them and mine as well when wer'e done

same with the other person from earlier

oh huh i requipped it and now they can see the light

weird sync stuff i guess

[hearty frost]

Was literally about to say take it off and put it back on it's desync 😛

[lost python]

Yeah it also happens to headsets sometimes

[solid pivot]

very weird

Will have to add some more log next patch

[lost python]

It's just a spam of walkie toggle on but it does get fixed when you unequip and re-equip it

[hearty frost]

tbh I've seen stuff like it regardless of mods or not, even in vanilla i've seen some desync. Especially invisible shovels 😛

[solid pivot]

Yes, inventory managment is weird in vanilla

[lost python]

could just be a vanilla thing yeah

But at least i dont see the flashlights be turned on for someone but not others when it is dropped anymore

[solid pivot]

Oh, and I will soon take a break from modding anyway. Have to play the new FFXIV Patch :3

And finally start Twilight Princess for my YT

So many stuff in my life pushed back due to AC

[hearty frost]

New expansion actually looks insane

[solid pivot]

It does

Really looking forward to the new story arc they will start :D

Especially with Solution 9 and stuff

[hearty frost]

Pictomancer looking fun too

[solid pivot]

And we finally get a new Bozja! :D

Endwalker really missed a Bozja

[hallow mortar]

my vision went pure black now what the fuck lmao

[solid pivot]

And we still get an island sanctuary equivalent but like the ishgardian restoration a bit?

[hearty frost]

Open your eyes 😄

[solid pivot]

So more content than ever before in an expansion actually

[hallow mortar]

i cant!!!!

[solid pivot]

They finally listened to the feedback that we need MORE :D

[solid pivot]

I am not doing anything regarding vision

[ornate zealot]

hey is it okay if i post an idea for an item here?

[solid pivot]

of course but most likely wont be added unless I think its extremly awesome

Like I said, I will withdraw from modding

[ornate zealot]

i see

welp, worth a shot

btw forgive me for like the wall of text that's abouta be sent in like the next 5 sec

Since, iirc, there's no other item that can go in the player's torso slot other than the bulletproof vest, i came up with an idea for an item. sadly I can't make a concept sketch for what it'd look like, but that's fine.

Now Introducing:

The Electroshock Breastplate

The company cannot be held liable for injuries caused by this product. Please handle with caution.

Base Cost: 150

The Electroshock Breastplate is an item that the player can equip in their torso slot. It can only be used once before needing to be recharged.
While equipped, the breastplate will activate after the player takes damage from a monster/player that attacks them from close up.

When the Electroshock Breastplate activates, it'll stun the attacker for a short duration, as well as give the player a slight stamina boost, allowing them to run away from the threat.

This is meant to be used as an emergency last resort, if something like a spider, thumper, coilhead, etc. hurts you. Note that if a monster can instantly kill you, the Electroshock Breastplate will not be able to save you, as it only triggers once the player has taken damage.

Any criticism on this idea would be greatly appreciated.

[solid pivot]

Ill give it a maybe

as AC lacks body armour

[ornate zealot]

awesome

[hearty frost]

I was gonna suggest a ammo sash that stores and auto loads the shotgun other day but wasn't 100% feeling the idea 😛

[lost python]

Honestly that looks sick

The concept of it

[hearty frost]

Imagine how it could look too when it zaps and stuff, I have a soft spot for fx :3

[lost python]

Man I can't wait to fully play my singleplayer profile in one go after all the fixes from other mods

[ornate zealot]

i usually find myself buying like a zap gun or a stun grenade to save myself if something bad happens, but i usually never get the chance to actually use it ,or i use it in a situation that leaves me vulnerable afterwards

[lost python]

Whenever I find a homemade flashbang, I make sure to bring it with me in case any giant spawns outside

Because it is better than stun grenade against them

[ornate zealot]

yeah

it kinda sucks that i can never find one

[lost python]

I frequently find them

[hearty frost]

I save flashbangs for my teammates to be blind xD or they do same with me haha

[ornate zealot]

what moons do you usually go to?

[lost python]

That too

[hearty frost]

Yeah I find them all time in March and stuff

or Dine

[ornate zealot]

oh really?

[lost python]

Uh I go to Assurance/Vow at first quota (lucky if eclipsed cause AC weather multipliers)

Then immediately Rend

Or if I feel like not rushing, I go to a custom moon that is intermediate level

Like Aquatis

I usually find like 1-3 flashbangs

Early-mid

[ornate zealot]

only times i've found them are in lower-end planets, like experimentation and assurance, and i usually don't bother going specifically to those moons ONLY to get a homemade flashbang

[hearty frost]

I'd say same for me too, I mostly find them in the free moons but deffo got quite a few from time to time in paid/custom moons

[solid pivot]

I am really taking console layout to a limit xD

[lost python]

I hope I can learn how to mod in a new weather because I am itching to have a meteor shower weather

[solid pivot]

LIMIT BREAK

Heal LB3

[hearty frost]

[solid pivot]

Box is cut off because the panel is too tall rn but yea

Can add funny boxes to the border :D

[lost python]

So would the portable terminal only include your store items?

[solid pivot]

no, it includes everything

[lost python]

Even modded store items?

[hearty frost]

Actually nutty tbh ❤️

[solid pivot]

yes

[lost python]

That's nuts

[hearty frost]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-2088247993237804628

[solid pivot]

And dont forget, next Beta will add the question mark blocks

And the tactical helmet

Question mark blocks being a replacement for items from mods you have removed but are still in the savegame

Adding the mod back will readd those items :3

But it wont shuffle your items any longer

Making the lobbies of AC even more solid :'>

[hearty frost]

Tactical helmet giving assets the fit the company knows they deserve

https://tenor.com/view/twin-peaks-twin-peaks-the-return-twin-peaks-series-part16-kyle-maclachlan-gif-9683745

[solid pivot]

Total cost will now be red when you dont have enough items and the buy option will be greyed out :D

very sexy store

And yesh

I will remove the limitations of 12 items on a dropship

AdvancedTech doesnt have such limitations

Will remove items with maxamount 0 too soon

So if a decoration or upgrade was bought, it wont show up any longer

[lost python]

Omg

I wonder if no sell limit on the company building is possible too

[solid pivot]

People would complain I f around with game classes

[barren rover]

Is there an option to hide player-names?

[hallow mortar]

alright i got a FAT fuckin log from a long session. didnt get the others. i know i saw multiple AdvancedCompany errors zoom by at various points; you want it?

[solid pivot]

I dont see any reason to say no

Isolating the error would've been better tho but still

[solid pivot]

maybe I'll find smth

[hallow mortar]

its juicy

[solid pivot]

19MB is nothing :3

[hallow mortar]

how would i isolate the error?

[solid pivot]

Find a way to consistently reproduce it

[hallow mortar]

oh

[solid pivot]

and only doing this after starting the game

[hallow mortar]

actually

when i would select shit in the store

an error would always pop up it seemed

lemme test hollup

i think there were others though i dont quite remember

just random things in passing

got it

[solid pivot]

a bunch of AdvancedCompany?

[hallow mortar]

one sec

nah

just a handful

[solid pivot]

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
AdvancedCompany.Patches.InventoryPatches.UpdateFlashlightState (FlashlightItem flashlight, System.Boolean isHeld) (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/Patches/InventoryPatches.cs:244)
AdvancedCompany.Patches.LobbySizePatches.StartOfRoundSyncAlreadyHeldObjectsClientRpc (StartOfRound __instance) (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/Patches/LobbySizePatches.cs:88)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMDStartOfRound::SyncAlreadyHeldObjectsClientRpc(StartOfRound,Unity.Netcode.NetworkObjectReference[],int[],int[],int[],int)
StartOfRound.__rpc_handler_1613265729 (Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour target, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader reader, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams rpcParams) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_014F)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers.Handle (Unity.Netcode.NetworkContext& context, Unity.Netcode.RpcMetadata& metadata, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader& payload, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams& rpcParams) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_004E)
Rethrow as Exception: Unhandled RPC exception!
UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers:Handle(NetworkContext&, RpcMetadata&, FastBufferReader&, __RpcParams&)
Unity.Netcode.ClientRpcMessage:Handle(NetworkContext&)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour:__endSendClientRpc(FastBufferWriter&, UInt32, ClientRpcParams, RpcDelivery)
StartOfRound:DMDStartOfRound::SyncAlreadyHeldObjectsClientRpc(StartOfRound, NetworkObjectReference[], Int32[], Int32[], Int32[], Int32)
StartOfRound:SyncAlreadyHeldObjectsServerRpc(Int32)
StartOfRound:__rpc_handler_682230258(NetworkBehaviour, FastBufferReader, __RpcParams)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers:Handle(NetworkContext&, RpcMetadata&, FastBufferReader&, __RpcParams&)
Unity.Netcode.ServerRpcMessage:Handle(NetworkContext&)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkMessageManager:ReceiveMessage(FastBufferReader, NetworkContext&, NetworkMessageManager)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkMessageManager:HandleMessage(NetworkMessageHeader&, FastBufferReader, UInt64, Single, Int32)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkMessageManager:ProcessIncomingMessageQueue()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager:NetworkUpdate(NetworkUpdateStage)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateLoop:RunNetworkUpdateStage(NetworkUpdateStage)
Unity.Netcode.<>c:<CreateLoopSystem>b__0_0()

[Error : Unity Log] Error while syncing players' already held objects in server! Skipping. Error: System.NullReferenceException
at (wrapper managed-to-native) UnityEngine.Behaviour.set_enabled(UnityEngine.Behaviour,bool)
at AdvancedCompany.Patches.InventoryPatches.UpdateFlashlightState (FlashlightItem flashlight, System.Boolean isHeld) [0x00081] in F:\Projects\UpgradeCompany\Patches\InventoryPatches.cs:244
at AdvancedCompany.Patches.LobbySizePatches.StartOfRoundSyncAlreadyHeldObjectsClientRpc (StartOfRound __instance) [0x0002d] in F:\Projects\UpgradeCompany\Patches\LobbySizePatches.cs:88
at (wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMDStartOfRound::SyncAlreadyHeldObjectsClientRpc(StartOfRound,Unity.Netcode.NetworkObjectReference[],int[],int[],int[],int)
at StartOfRound.SyncAlreadyHeldObjectsServerRpc (System.Int32 joiningClientId) [0x00279] in <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0279

[warm hearth]

advanced company is so goated wtf

[hallow mortar]

fresh from a new save openeing the shop and selecting items

wait

did it not save the errors

oh nvm the expand view just doesnt show everything

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
TerminalPatch.LoadNewNodeIfAffordable_After () (at <d91f4862bdd34eedb04fca2d3bdbc226>:IL_0016)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMDTerminal::LoadNewNodeIfAffordable(Terminal,TerminalNode)
AdvancedCompany.Patches.Terminal.Submit (Terminal __instance) (at F:/Projects/UpgradeCompany/Patches/Terminal.cs:332)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMDTerminal::OnSubmit(Terminal)
UnityEngine.Events.InvokableCall.Invoke () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0010)
UnityEngine.Events.UnityEvent1[T0].Invoke (T0 arg0) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0049) TMPro.TMP_InputField.SendOnEndEdit () (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_000E) TMPro.TMP_InputField.ReleaseSelection () (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_001B) TMPro.TMP_InputField.DeactivateInputField (System.Boolean clearSelection) (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_00B0) TMPro.TMP_InputField.OnUpdateSelected (UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData) (at <9baa8119dbcd498f902c1a92f10843c1>:IL_007C) UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute (UnityEngine.EventSystems.IUpdateSelectedHandler handler, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData) (at <17de86d66286445fa95af59fa8fa644d>:IL_0000) UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents.Execute[T] (UnityEngine.GameObject target, UnityEngine.EventSystems.BaseEventData eventData, UnityEngine.EventSystems.ExecuteEvents+EventFunction1[T1] functor) (at <17de86d66286445fa95af59fa8fa644d>:IL_0067)
UnityEngine.EventSystems.EventSystem:Update()

[solid pivot]

Uhhh.... You do realize that "TerminalPatch" is none of my classes? :'D

AdvancedCompany.Patches.Terminal <- thats mine

I am just calling a game method to buy a node I've found

[hallow mortar]

huh?

all i know is i saw red and the name of your mod lmao

i know nothing else

[solid pivot]

Its what I said, its not an AdvancedCompany error

Yea, good practice for other mods, not defining a namespace to blame others

[hallow mortar]

so i got a mod that clashes with yours?

why is it referencing advanced company?

[solid pivot]

Its not?

[hallow mortar]

um

[solid pivot]

AdvancedCompany parses all text inputs into the terminal in an attempt to make all items buyable from all mods

[solid pivot]

Its higher up in the stack

OK, let me clarify

If you go into a house, and then enter a room, and kill somebody

Was it the houses fault?

The rooms fault?

[hallow mortar]

brother i just wanna figure out whats wrong

im not blaming you

😭

[solid pivot]

Will be fixed in next update

[hallow mortar]

im just trying to make sense of this

[solid pivot]

As I dont do anything with the terminal

At least my name wont be showing up

Error might still be there

[Info : Unity Log] Parsed word: flash
[Info : Unity Log] noun keyword: flashlight ; verb keyword: buy ; result null? : False
[Info : Unity Log] result: buyFlash

Indicates AdvancedCompany asked the game for a node it wants to load

And then just passes it on to the correct method as I have a fallback for "command not found"

[hallow mortar]

so is this error a nonissue?

i shouldnt track it down or anything?

[solid pivot]

You type "flashlight"
AdvancedCompany looks over its own commands, cant find it
Tells game someone entered flashlight and asks what node it could be
Games answers
And I proceed as the game would have proceeded afterwards :D

Its fine, its a nonproblem only because I wont do this any longer

In my local version this was all removed

[barren rover]

Isnt it?

It solved all of my multiplayer problems in my modpack