Diversity

[torpid geyser]

after some tests with only diversity resonance and imperium I don't have the same error as you, everything seems to work with the ghost girl

[errant flume]

I had Ghost Girl Isolation disabled when it happened

[torpid geyser]

This means that disabling this setting causes problems

I am also testing the bracken by the way, can you confirm for me what the problems are with the diversity bracken?

[astral magnet]

I think flashlight dimming is kinda wonky, and the rare voice line that plays when a bracken angered via appy/breaker kills someone doesn't play

Breaker anger might be busted, but I didn't test it very closely

Personal space seems(?) functional on a surface level for both host and client but I haven't tested all the death pits/the exit door

[errant flume]

Personal Space has the same desync issues it's always had in Multi where after a while it doesn't generate and the Bracken keeps hugging a player making them invincible

Also iirc I saw someone say you can't escape it rn

[astral magnet]

Pre sure the message on radar is host-only when looking at someone who's in there

[errant flume]

At this rate I would just remove the Personal Space feature

It's been broken since like

Diversity's inception

[astral magnet]

i think i'm gonna need an elaboration on that

you mean like if you're playing a while it just. stops spawning and you get the "fails to teleport people in there and softlocks" bug it used to have with clients?

[errant flume]

So everytime the Personal Space breaks, some player will become invincible from the start of the round like automatically

[astral magnet]

what

[errant flume]

Yeah it's not the most well done feature

[astral magnet]

jesus yikes

I assume still fixable just really difficult

maybe s1ck could figure smth out once he has the project?

[torpid geyser]

in relation to the personal space I noticed that it had a unique use if a player was brought after another into it he will not see the white eyes chasing him and the music

[safe bluff]

@vestal ore figure it out ty

[astral magnet]

Once he has the project

Not right now 😭

[errant flume]

I'm ngl I see s1ckboy probably just outright removing it if Chaos doesn't

since it's been broken for ages

It's not really a feature worth trying to salvage or fix imo

[astral magnet]

okay yeah that does sound pretty scuffed

I was under the impression bracken couldn't take anyone in there at all after bringing one person in there

[errant flume]

All due rspect to Chaos for trying to fix it constantly but yeah

[torpid geyser]

the apparatus which annoys the bracken works very correctly after solo tests

[astral magnet]

i personally don't see why not figure smth out

[errant flume]

it always ends up having the same Multiplayer issues, I think it's just meant for solo play or smth from a design standpoint

[astral magnet]

It's been an advertised feature of the mod since forever

[errant flume]

Idk

I'm just a bit bitter over the mod always being severely busted

[astral magnet]

i'm sure there's someone out there that likes the idea but can't use diversity for it because. y'know

[errant flume]

It's one of my favorite mods but then half of it never working just is like

Meh what's the point anymore

[astral magnet]

understandable

[errant flume]

Yeah it also is kinda heavy cus of GraphicsAPI

[torpid geyser]

I consider diversity as one of the main mods of my modpacks

[errant flume]

Which speaking of GraphicsAPI since it's messing with HDRP I'm surprised it was not updated

[astral magnet]

dunno if it's specifically graphicsapi or the custom passes diversity uses graphicsapi for

[errant flume]

I like it mainly for the Speaker guy anymore

[astral magnet]

but either way could use optimisation

[errant flume]

Ye

[astral magnet]

assuming that's possible idk shit about custom passes and graphicsapi's internals

[astral magnet]

understandable, lot of cool stuff in there even if it's kinda a 50/50 whether or not it works

[errant flume]

Yeah it's a good mod, I just don't like that it has so much wrong with it

Makes me sad

[torpid geyser]

I'll see even if I can't use all of them I would at least like to be able to play with the Bracken Revamp and the Walker

[astral magnet]

the day diversity is 100% functional no (major) bugs perfectly optimised will be a good day

[errant flume]

We got a fix for the Watcher soft locking the game, surprise ManualCameraRenderer.LateUpdate() errors every frame upon ye lol

[astral magnet]

idt there's anything else trying to do what diversity does so

[errant flume]

Ye

It's a really nice, unique mod

[astral magnet]

Yeah

[torpid geyser]

I don't know of any other mods that change vanilla enemies like diversity

[opaque wind]

i tend to prefer em that way so they don't become over bearing, but go for it

Oh nah I never heard any jokes about Bito or whatev, I was just being truthful to how I felt lol

Thanks for the compliments fellas

[errant flume]

Btw regarding yesterday, not sure what may have happened in the past that might have caused some rough feelings but I hope you know that I apologize and I have huge respect for the work you do, maybe it was about all the stuff in the past where I used to joke about Biodiversity not getting updated idk but I'd rather not have any bad blood between us honestly

Especially since at this point that's been well over a year at this point if it was due to that, I don't really like the person I was a year ago or the way I used to act back then and I've done a lot to improve myself and try and handle situations better cus I dislike how I was at the time a lot

[vestal ore]

bwa

[vestal ore]

If Chaos doesnt want to, I wouldnt do it either.

[narrow echo]

yo s1ckboy when the walker catches up to me for the 7th time (escaped stairs twice) i get a notif on my phone that i failed the semester and christmas is kinda soon can you fix my grades

[errant flume]

Maybe whenever you get the project you can properly fix it then

[vestal ore]

Thats more likely yeah

[vestal ore]

Your grades will be fixed asap, but Santa already booked you for being bad I cant do anything about that

[narrow echo]

[wise python]

Is Bracken Personal space broken? I didn't notice anything besides that only the first player that dies by the Bracken is send to the bracken space.

And red text is host only

[astral magnet]

Allegedly you can't escape it rn but I haven't gotten far enough to test this myself

Last I tested it before the current update it was escapable but the hud associated with the escape door was busted and wouldn't show

you had to mash e on the door to leave but the hud that indicated that was missing

[wise python]

I noticed a few times logs errors about the watcher and the walker.

[astral magnet]

also allegedly the personal space might fail to spawn in sometimes

[astral magnet]

also i feel like only the first person getting sent is intentional

[wise python]

It looks like a few vents only the host can see and even if you are a client you still can die for the watcher.

[astral magnet]

weird

[gray leaf]

Thats how it works

Only first player is sent

Everyone else dies

You only get one chance

[wise python]

Ghost Girl Revamp isn't working too?

Or is it a mod conflict?

[torpid geyser]

It working for me

Which feature dont work for you ?

[wise python]

Its working

Just asking

[wise python]

this option doesn't work. I put 0 and the bracken still could turn off nearby lights

[torpid geyser]

I understand that the majority of configs if you change the base values ​​it will not work

[mighty bone]

lmao

[thin oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-both-laughing-laugh-laughing-despicable-me-3-gif-12350846052468932881

[wise python]

my friend was able to survive the bracken space

normal gameplay

[astral magnet]

Huh

Maybe smth else was breaking it then

[wise python]

This time I didn't change max players count and the walker still log errors

I didn't notice anything until see the logs

[errant flume]

We have an update, this mod was not what caused the ManualCameraRenderer.LateUpdate() spam, it appears to be an issue with something else acting odd

[wise python]

This error is something about latejoin or morecompany

You are able to teleport the host from bracken space, clients are unable to be teleported while in bracken space

[wise python]

Hoarding Bugs carrying slimes around

[unreal yew]

"im movin this"

[crude dirge]

this happens in vanilla

hoarding bugs can push some monsters for some reason

[astral magnet]

yea, it's smth i've seen a bunch

i'd be concerned if slimes could still carry babies

[bold gulch]

ah yes the legendary slime+baby dance

[wise python]

I thought it was because of the scraps bc when I took one from the slime the bugs tried to attack me

[astral magnet]

maybe slime picked up one of their scraps or smth? idk

[narrow echo]

can they???

i remember this happening so i disabled the slime thing

but if thats fixed ill re-enable

[astral magnet]

They used to be able to, idk if they still do

[narrow echo]

doesnt beat whatever harbringer is doing tho

[Harbinger Scripts 1.0.0]: 1421.12 ms

[tacit belfry]

ogopogo is so big and fat

he takes long to load

Wait im fucking stupid

i thought that said biodiversity

someone throw tomatos at me

i was gonna say i wouldnt expect that from biod

@opaque wind yoy can kill me now mr biod

[opaque wind]

I was gon say....

[opaque wind]

its ok bro it's new years i wont kirll you

[tacit belfry]

ty benevolent afton

[wise python]

Vents can spawn behind shelfs from manor interior. So you can't see the watcher but the watcher can see you.

[thin oxide]

Alwayz Watching...

[chilly hearth]

this bug is still present

[gray leaf]

?

[indigo maple]

It got nuked off thundersore already. Guess someone was trying to take over it without permission.

[vestal ore]

DEMOLISH IT!

[indigo maple]

It has been slain by Hachiman and added to his trophy collection.

[wise python]

Is it intended for the centipede to be destroyed? After removing it from a player's head

[torpid geyser]

yes

i think

it always happen

[astral magnet]

destroyed?

I've never been able to see that mechanic in action but destroyed seems a bit much for prying a snare flea off someone's head barehanded

[indigo maple]

No thats never happened for us back when we ran the mod. But maybe it was a bug though and it was suppose to 😆

[astral magnet]

I do wonder what the intended behaviour is but being able to nuke the snare flea instantly with just a bit of mashing on your friend is a bit overpowered so i doubt it

Not the first time I've seen a wholeass feature be broken

reminds me of bracken walkie thing

[wise python]

I remember that it logged an error.

[chilly hearth]

Can this be fixed for next updates?
Random.InitState is used too much it breaks other mods, like Lethal Moon Unlocks Discovery mode, which selects a random list of 5 or (configurable) moons when creating a lobby, with this mod enabled they are always the same

i think it can be fixed by just using a local random number generator

[wise python]

He is already trying to fix the mod itself.

[wise python]

I will never understand the logic about this error from the walker

[wise python]

We didn't have morecompany. Maybe that problem is caused by latejoin?

[errant flume]

Disabling the Walker for now should fix this

All that stuff is for the Walker

[narrow echo]

@mighty bone could this ^ mess with weather algorithms?

im kinda fine with most other random things breaking but weather is important

[mighty bone]

it shouldn't, I've never been using Unity Random

[chilly hearth]

Not all seems, because per example in one function of voice lines, it uses Random.InitState 3 times

[safe bluff]

The screenshot is diversity editing the vanilla System.Random seeds

Iirc anyway

[chilly hearth]

Here: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/IntegrityChaos/Diversity/source/

The mod is great, i also hardcoded things sometimes, he was probably having problems with randomness and pasted a lot of it

but it should be easy to fix like mrov does

[astral magnet]

so speaker guy and the walker use it then

I guess in the former's case it's to randomise the lines? that prob explains why the lines tend to be different on each client tbh

meanwhile walker has the stairs he's using it for and apparently seemingly his mind too? based on it being called by diversity's dungeon generator thingy

[chilly hearth]

In the images i only showed 13 Random.InitState

There are 24 in total

[astral magnet]

oh god

[chilly hearth]

if you download the source you can see them all (The link i sent with the images)

[indigo maple]

Not sure if many people had discovered it but the Walker had another secret to him that sent players to another place that was a maze. Which would probably be the dungeon generator as it was pretty big and trippy. Was not easy pulling off getting sent there. I had helped him test the feature a long time ago, but I have never seen anyone actually talk about it after the remastered update dropped with it.

[astral magnet]

Yeah it's comically hard to get into

I tried poking about in there once it's interesting

but i did account for that in that message

"seemingly his mind too"

since that's what the dungeon's supposed to be

[indigo maple]

Gotcha, wasnt sure. Been a long time since ive messed with the mod i forgot that part.

[astral magnet]

fair enough

[narrow echo]

it might be the doors mechanic

[astral magnet]

Yeah

The doors are how you get into his mind

[narrow echo]

yes

[wise python]

Diversity breaks randomizer seed from butteryfixes and General Improvements

[errant flume]

Known issue

[wise python]

ah

[errant flume]

Bertogim made a recent report that explains what it’s doing if you scroll up a little

@chilly hearth Is it fixable by disabling the Walker and Speaker guy or are other things using too?

[chilly hearth]

I'm going to make a list of when Random.InitState is used

1. Line 1310 - Always runs in -> HarmonyPatch(typeof(RoundManager), "FinishGeneratingNewLevelClientRpc")

2. Line 1330 - Always runs in-> HarmonyPatch(typeof(RoundManager), "FinishGeneratingNewLevelClientRpc")

3. Line 2013 - Runs if BrakenPersonnalSpace and BrakenRevamp is enabled -> [HarmonyPatch(typeof(RoundManager), "FinishGeneratingLevel")]

4. Line 2141 - Runs if Voice lines is enabled -> Start() -> SetupGame() -> SetSpeakerLines()

5. Line 2143 - Runs if Voice lines is enabled -> Start() -> SetupGame() -> SetSpeakerLines()

6. Line 2145 - Runs if Voice lines is enabled -> Start() -> SetupGame() -> SetSpeakerLines()

7. Line 4131 - Runs if Voice lines is enabled -> [HarmonyPatch(typeof(StartOfRound), "ResetShip")]

8. Line 4133 - Runs if Voice lines is enabled -> [HarmonyPatch(typeof(StartOfRound), "ResetShip")]

9. Line 4135 - Runs if Voice lines is enabled -> [HarmonyPatch(typeof(StartOfRound), "ResetShip")]

10. Line 4193 - Runs if Voice lines is enabled -> [HarmonyPatch(typeof(StartOfRound), "Update")]

11. Line 11205 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> StairsManager.Start()

12. Line 11207 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> StairsManager.Start()

13. Line 11209 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> StairsManager.Start()

14. Line 11211 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> StairsManager.Start()

15. Line 11213 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> StairsManager.Start()

16. Line 11215 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> StairsManager.Start()

17. Line 11217 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> StairsManager.Start()

18. Line 11585 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> StairTeleporter.OnTriggerEnter -> StairsManager.SetFloor -> SetAnomalies
19. Line 11602 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> ... -> StairsManager.SetStairsLayout()
20. Line 11634 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> ... -> StairsManager.SetStairsObjects()
21. Line 11667 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> ... -> StairsManager.RollChanceBasedOnFloorSeed()
22. Line 11673 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> ... -> StairsManager.RollChanceBasedOnFloorSeedOnSetFloor()
23. Line 11679 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> ... -> StairsManager.RollChanceWithOffset()
24. Line 11685 - Idk if always or only is when Walker is enabled -> ... -> StairsManager.RollChanceWithOffsetOnSetFloor()

[errant flume]

The top 2 are probably for the watcher which is why it errors without the fix in NicheTweaks when the watcher is disabled

@thin oxide Just wondering if you can confirm this or not

[chilly hearth]

Idk the first 2 always run independently of the settings

[thin oxide]

not off the top of my head (I forgot), but i guess bertogim did

[sonic valley]

Anyone else have the floppy disk, computer, and posters just randomly decide to no longer appear, like ever? I haven't changed any configs and did a full reinstall + save wipe. No longer get the boot cutscenes on fresh saves either.

[sonic valley]

I'm gonna guess this is just Diversity being Diversity. Maybe I did change a config somewhere and it triggered some weird incompat. I just wanted to know why all of these things vanished suddenly, as how tf could posters & cutscenes be related.

But just learned I have to turn posters off anyway, so done that and added no floppy. Hopefully no other mod/config has screwed Diversity entirely, I'll have to test.

[narrow echo]

helo

yeah so diversitys kinda in life support atm

heres how you make the mod work properly, part of it at least

• disable posters. this breaks everything
• install diversitynofloppy. the floppy disk thing kills performance and is super bugged
• install nichetweaks and config it if you're going to disable the vent watcher, otherwise the game will softlock when trying to start a game
• keep an eye on the hydrogere & bracken revamps. if anything weird happens with those two enemies, or hydrogeres start moving maneaters, its those 2 you gotta turn off

diveristynofloppy also removes the computer

for that content youll just have to join the wait on an update

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231286447131328544/1458586374759383203/4554355345534.gif

[sonic valley]

Gotcha. I'm just trying to troubleshoot at the moment why the computer, disk, and posters suddenly vanished before anything was changed at all.

[narrow echo]

no idea

[sonic valley]

Perhaps it has something to do with turning on the global shutoff in JLL?

[narrow echo]

only thing i got in mind is you somehow had the config files or diversitynofloppy installed beforehand

but i doubt it was something weird like that

[sonic valley]

This'll bother me a lot with my OCD, I have to figure out the cause of that before anything else lol.

[narrow echo]

i suggest not looking too much into it

its a miracle the mod works in v73 and even before then

there are mods that break stuff the most unexpectedly too

the shrimp enemy breaks the ship monitor and suits for no apparent reason

if its not actively maintained i wouldn tmake a huge effort

[sonic valley]

Vent watcher has to be disabled to prevent soft locks?

[narrow echo]

nope

close tho

watcher has 2 issues

1. weights dont work, you cant change the frequency of watcher's spawning

2. disabling the watcher via diversity's config cuases a softlock whenever the ship lands, so you need nichetweaks

[sonic valley]

Ah, gotcha gotcha.

Update on my og problem: I just reset all my configs which I was planning to do anyway and the floppy/posters reappeared. So some config setting in some mod must've caused it.

I don't care enough to troubleshoot it, but I needed to know it wasn't diversity itself; well, it is, but you know what I mean lol.

[narrow echo]

congrats

[wise python]

Any news?

[solid raptor]

daily diversity news:
there is no news

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[astral magnet]

I assume chaos is busy as he often is

I hope stuff's going okay for him

[tacit belfry]

bio dingle is dead!!!

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-cat-cat-screaming-black-cat-meme-memes-2023-gif-5774825797503791230

[light jasper]

at least atm it is in a playable state

[gray leaf]

Oof

[bitter pumice]

Update is being worked on but is not priority

[errant flume]

I don’t think he’s working on the mod at all iirc, last I spoke to him he mentioned primarily doing lots of AFK grinding in Where Winds Meet and working on his game

[solid raptor]

why was that the first thing you mentioned him doing

https://tenor.com/view/neppico-gif-12490047082767817490

lol

[tacit belfry]

toler tole

[native wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/garten-of-banban-ghetto-smosh-kills-my-high-gif-13015230565470672659

[solid raptor]

[azure wedge]

I am alive guys. Like Luni said, I've been mega focused on the game. (And got addicted to WWM on the way LOL)

Boutta head to be but tomorrow I'm preparing everything to hand it over to s1ckboy

And I'll just leave this here...

[crude dirge]

If the diversity mod is so good why isn't it a standalone game?

[vestal ore]

https://klipy.com/gifs/crash-corps

[potent otter]

keep cooking chaos
your game surely'll be as peak as the mod itself is

[thorn drift]

how does the watcher work?

[native wadi]

attacks if you approach it's vent

i think it relocates after attacking?

[thorn drift]

how do i know which vent it is and also is there a way to counter/kill it?

[native wadi]

theres no way to kill it

just run if you see him

[native wadi]

it's eyes will be visible from the vent

[astral magnet]

You can hear it breathing also

If you don't value your life whacking it with a shovel has a chance of forcing it to relocate too

[crude dirge]

chance

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gambling-gambler-gif-572068894331490223

[astral magnet]

but you're probably safer just keeping an eye and ear out, or simply being sus of every vent and keeping a wide berth/running and jumping over

[potent otter]

mu? you're here? and not typing in spoilers?

||you lost the game||

[astral magnet]

bruh

[gray leaf]

||bruh||

[vestal ore]

GFDI

[wise python]

Vents can spawn behind shelves in the manor be careful too

[gray leaf]

omg poor leubes

[crude dirge]

They unredacted the diversity files

[azure wedge]

False, Diversity is very much redacted...

👀

[astral magnet]

man I can't wait to figure out the full lore I've already learned so much through the discs and conversations here

It's a shame it's all so out of the way I think it's dope

wait you're actively ingame and testing what

I can't wait to get my hands on it now that I like. stream stuff

It seems like it'll be a blast

[errant flume]

I don’t expect it to still be for a while yet tbh

Lol

[astral magnet]

Yea I wasn't expecting it to be anytime soon

Hell I kinda hope we don't get it until i'm at least finished college

[errant flume]

I’m glad to see progress being done though

[astral magnet]

so I have more time to play it

Yeah

[errant flume]

I mean how long is that though?

[astral magnet]

few months

This is my last semester

[errant flume]

You graduate this year?

[astral magnet]

Yeah

[errant flume]

Nice

Maybe you can stop being dead and we can play games again finally after that

Lmao

[astral magnet]

maybe

[azure wedge]

Woohoo Congrats!!

[azure wedge]

Yes some good progress has been made c:

[astral magnet]

Hell yeah

[crude dirge]

super excited for it

Will it have similar themes to the mod or is it just the name thats shared?

[azure wedge]

Same theme, same lore, but definitely a different game from Lethal company

[crude dirge]

Obviously wont release for quite a while but very excited for it

[azure wedge]

And s1ckboy has the project files and will be working on maintaining the mod for the meanwhile

[azure wedge]

I wanna release beta testing for it within late 2026

[astral magnet]

How different out of curiosity

Like I know it's multiplayer but that's about it

[astral magnet]

I assume obvs you couldn't include the lethal monsters but we get like. the walker and watcher and whatever other freaks of nature you're devising right?

[azure wedge]

A lil sypnosis I wrote for the meanwhile:

Diversity is a horror, co-op story driven game about the apocalypse created by a company called "Diversity". The reason behind it was never known, whether it was intentional or not. You managed to survive in a bunker owned by Bunk-Corp, an affiliate of "Diversity". All that matters now is your own survival...

[astral magnet]

:o story-based

I'm just hoping multiplayer won't dampen atmosphere too bad

[crude dirge]

Found this accidentally included in the diversity mod files. Big spoilers for the ending.
||The walker appears at the end and kills the big bad "John Diversity". He then says "What if the real diversity were the friends we made along the way?" and lets us leave.||

[astral magnet]

LMAO

lmfao imagine

[azure wedge]

LMFAO

[astral magnet]

this is like potential actual spoilers ||Isn't the walker's deal to avoid direct physical harm? Anything that results from the mental harm he specialises in is fair game but bro does not directly kill you||

||If anything speaker guy probably has the most beef with john diversity and the means to kill him but that likely already happened||

[azure wedge]

What if

I add fishing to the game?

LMFAO

[astral magnet]

lmao what

[azure wedge]

LOL

[astral magnet]

||Watch the fish be former diversity experiements too||

||They just chinese water torture them until they became fish||

||or smth like that idk||

[crude dirge]

i think there was a game that added a keybind to pull up a cute cat picture in your hand for people who found the game too scary

add that, or maybe like a cat photo item you can find and keep

[azure wedge]

Funny you say that, you'll see cat/cats in Diversity eventually...

[astral magnet]

||Tbh thalassophobia is a very real fear that exists my dumb idea could actually work ngl||

[crude dirge]

then have it be changed to something horrific when you inevitably get sent to the 900th pocket room

[astral magnet]

lowkey ||the walker would absolutely cause you to hallucinate that if he had access to you||

[azure wedge]

Yee also I haven't forgotten the monster idea that I came up from your biggest fear.... It WILL be in the game.... Sorry not sorry...

[astral magnet]

ah yeah true

I still feel like I gotta come up with more lines for that

lmao

whenever am able

Y'know actually it just occurred to me to ask

[azure wedge]

Well I am not at the point of the game yet

[crude dirge]

||Walker disguises a shotgun as a healing syringe/heal potion and watches you kill yourself accidentally.||

[azure wedge]

VA stuff wil be mostly at the end

[crude dirge]

||Or kill your team||

[astral magnet]

||What fear, if any, does the walker even represent? like. the other monsters lethal and otherwise are pretty clear-cut but the walker lost his daughter and went on the longest fucking hike slowly losing his mind to fucked up and evil monster transformation cocktail to get revenge, if I'm not mistaken?||

[astral magnet]

fair enough

[azure wedge]

||That... Very close to an ability of the walker... 👀 Not saying more than that...||

[astral magnet]

||yea I feel like that's a bit too forward he'd probably be a bit more extra/mental trauma about it than that||

[azure wedge]

||Who said a monster could be from one fear only?||

[astral magnet]

||Ohh makes sense||

[azure wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/escanor-gif-10507320087304996260

[crude dirge]

||He doesnt disguise the gun and just shoots you ||

[astral magnet]

||Too much shit happened to him for him to be just the one fear||

[wise python]

https://tenor.com/view/cadeirudo-dancing-party-hard-gif-11502959

[astral magnet]

||My read on how the walker is is that he wouldn't disguise the gun at all, just torment you until you shoot yourself or someone else anyway||

[azure wedge]

No comment..

I plead the 5th

[astral magnet]

yea fair lmao

[crude dirge]

||Makes you think your friend is a monster, giving you the means and the ability to "defend" yourself.||

[astral magnet]

||Tbh I think that was something that was discussed in the past, him bullying players into turning on their friends||

||This could be an extra layer on that?||

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/im-here-jigsaw-saw7-saw3d-coming-gif-21902171

||Hello, Sigurd 2. I'll happy let you go if you kill your friend.||

[astral magnet]

||nah he'd be more like. a nagging voice in their head||

||with maybe a sprinkling of the general sense of dread/anxiety he exudes naturally||

[crude dirge]

||"Heard he called you a bitch, I personally wouldn't let that slide cro. Shoot him it'd be funny." - Walker||

[astral magnet]

LMOA

imagine

💀

[azure wedge]

Throwback to when I posted this a while back:

Don't mind the file name LMAO

[astral magnet]

You posted that here?

had no idea

[azure wedge]

Yee at one point I did

[crude dirge]

Adding that to my ASMR playlist to help me sleep :p

[astral magnet]

LMFAO

[azure wedge]

LMFAOOOO

[astral magnet]

||"aw man this asmr is great i love sleeping in this stairwell"||
||"h o l y s h i t j u s t w a l k a l r e a d y"||

[azure wedge]

LMFAOOOOO

[crude dirge]

The stairwell should've made you walk upwards to increase torment tenfold

going up stairs is equivalent to thousands of years of torture compared to going down stairs

[azure wedge]

That should be for the way back...

[astral magnet]

||He already bullies the shit out of you idk if he needs to make the actual stair walking worse||

[azure wedge]

Goes all the way down, then sees a wall written: "Gotta go back to exit"

[astral magnet]

||Aren't the stairs too long for a human to feasibly go all the way to the bottom||

||like. canonically||

||Unless bro stole the fucked up evil diversity monster cocktail either their legs mind or both are gonna give out long before they get anywhere near that point||

[azure wedge]

Yuh

[crude dirge]

Y'know those really hard to climb ramps with water and stuff on game shows, why hasn't the walker made one of those yet

[azure wedge]

I mean like I said before... ||Couple entities can make it all the way down...||

[crude dirge]

the walker just standing on the side throwing balls at you

[astral magnet]

LFMAO

||Again he specialises in purely mental torture I don't think tossing balls would be ideal||

[crude dirge]

He makes your socks wet and puts lego on the stairs

[astral magnet]

||If anything he could probably make you hallucinate that?||

[azure wedge]

Makes you rock climb 100 miles

[astral magnet]

||Why stairs anyway what's stopping him from relocating to literally anywhere else||

||unless the stairs were where his comically long hike took place?||

[azure wedge]

He played these games before

LMFAO

[crude dirge]

||He just finished paying out the mortgage for it you must be out of your mind if you think he's moving.||

[astral magnet]

LMAO

[azure wedge]

||To be continued on Diversity itself...||

[astral magnet]

||oh boy can't wait for the "walker's moving truck" level||

||it'll be so peam||

[azure wedge]

Walker plays you a beautiful piano piece

I was actually playing the piano a bit earlier

I made this on the whim

[astral magnet]

sounds nice! i like

[azure wedge]

Thank youuuu

[light jasper]

SCP Redacted are back again :]

[crude dirge]

They released the walker files

█████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ Watcher ██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████ Island██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████

[astral magnet]

why are you noting that down

[azure wedge]

[vestal ore]

dont worry about it

[astral magnet]

okay understandable 👍

[halcyon violet]

Wowie.. this voice sounds familiar! 🙄

God.. reading through this chat and actually seeing you play your game on discord makes me hella excited for the future of Diversity, @azure wedge

[vestal ore]

Cant wait to see the official announcement one day for early access on steam 🔥

[vestal ore]

Yes I have the diversity files, unredacted

[errant flume]

Now fix all the issues and update it s1ckboy

Get to work

[vestal ore]

Gimme all the issues

[azure wedge]

I know right..? o.o

[errant flume]

They have been slowly reported lol

Idk if Chaos marked any of them down

[azure wedge]

Exactlyyyyy

[errant flume]

😅

[azure wedge]

I forgot to mention them

But there's a bunch of fixes done to the files I sent him already

[errant flume]

Ah neat

[azure wedge]

Yeeeee

Poster issue hasn't been fixed though

[vestal ore]

I know there was something about floppy disk

[azure wedge]

For that I just gotta remove the network object I forgot to remove on the posters...

[errant flume]

It was that you couldn't disable it and still required that mod that Voxx made, idk if he already added that

[azure wedge]

I was working on config to disable it

[azure wedge]

You can check in the config just to be sure. If it's incomplete go ahead and implement it

[vestal ore]

I’ll look at it on sunday been lookin thru stuff since you sent me the files just to get familiar dunno when i’ll do anything tho :p

[astral magnet]

Lemme think back on everything, please lmk if I missed smth/provide extra detail where I missed stuff

• Walker mind needs fine-tuning so that it's easier to get into without fudging configs to make walker manifest often and take ages to stairs you
• Relevant dungeon for above should be generated async because it causes freezing while loading into moons atp
• Watcher, unless already fixed by chaos, needs the testing thing turned off that guarantees it, and whatever's causing it to brick games by disabling it fixed
• Bracken unsure of the current state. Check flashlight dimming, light flickering, personal space on both host/client thoroughly, radar camera on someone in personal space, fix walkie voice line on kill with appy anger
• Ghost girl maybe optimise custom pass used for isolation effect
• Check hygrodere for jank with picking up items - does it still pick up babies?
• Check snare flea, i think that had issues at one point but idk what exactly
• Network speaker voice lines so everyone hears the same thing
• Optimise sound visualiser on floppy reader so it's not constantly computing even when not in use, also config to disable it
• Mod re-initialises rng in several places and breaks the rng of a lot of other mods. Maybe figure out where this happens and how to fix it

oh also

• Door into walker mind (the odd door) still spawns when walker is disabled iirc, if this is no longer the case then good but it should not persist in that scenario

• I've seen an extremely rare issue where the save file that determines if the mod's intro cutscene has been viewed or not can get corrupted and prevent the game from loading properly until it's cleared somehow. maybe get an error check on that?

Trying to think of any more I'll mention them if they occur

• obv the posters thing just for completion's sake kill the networkobject if not done already

• walker mind could use more content than a floppy disc but that's for after mod is fixed

Spore lizard and menu music are afaik the only things I can guarantee 100% work right

Speaker guy is fine too just needs networking imo

unless there's other stuff going on behind the scenes

maybe a line he never says or smth

He's among the things re-initialising rng so I wouldn't be surprised if that's causing something secretly

[safe bluff]

you forgot

and

[astral magnet]

ah yeah of course

i remember running into

like. ages ago

I should've mentioned it lmao

[errant flume]

The main optimization issues with the Ghost Girl, Walker Dimension etc are cus of GraphicsAPI replacing HDRP iirc, if there could be a way to not need to do all those shenanigans that would be the most ideal

Also there was the one issue Bertogim brought up as well right, where it was forcing tons of fields to be static or smth?

[astral magnet]

Ik the stairs does some post-processing same with the hallucination/mind filter but afaik the ghost girl isolation pass is the main one in regards to being heavy?

Idk if it was that but I mentioned reinitialisation of rng

That was smth he mentioned

Idk if it's exactly that but it was an rng-based issue

[errant flume]

Yeah

[astral magnet]

I'm not sure exactly how graphicsapi works, I assumed it was just a means to inject the passes

[errant flume]

A config option to simply not play the startup video could also be neat, I know some people dislike that it’s unskippable and it really doesn’t give any important lore for the mod lol

[astral magnet]

maybe? It's not something I considered since the save corruption issue is super rare and it's a once ever thing unless you use the option to make it always play

[errant flume]

It’s cool to experience at least once but yeah I can imagine it being annoying to replay

[astral magnet]

But having a means to bypass it if theoretical error check fails could be nice

[wise python]

You can teleport the host from bracken space

Client doesn't happen that

[astral magnet]

like with the teleporter?

[wise python]

Yes

[astral magnet]

Afaik not being able to use the teleporter to leave places like the bracken space and walker stairs and maybe also mind was intentional

That is a weird issue ig add to pile

[safe bluff]

It replaces the hdrp asset iirc

Which, some people have complained about that causing issues before

[wise python]

Idk if its a problem but snare fleas will die when take out from a players head

And the red text only the host can see

[errant flume]

Yeah it’s what used to cause the weird lighting bugs after getting teleported to the walker stairs and sometimes it’s really heavy on performance

[astral magnet]

Yeah, I mentioned checking the radar message while someone's in bracken room in case that was an issue because i remember that being a problem

but wasn't sure if fixed yet

[astral magnet]

Oh damn

had no idea

Prob a less scuffed way to change the post-processing then for those effects

[errant flume]

With the Sponge shader it might not even be needed anymore, I think the main issue was that the vanilla post processing would get disabled so he essentially reinjected it in a sorta scuffed way iirc

I can’t say for certain though if that’s what it was, that memory happens to be rather fragmented and greyed out for me

[wise python]

A few vents only the host can see, and some vents can spawn behind shelves and boxes from the manor and mineshaft. And the watcher hand shadow can be see behind the vent.

[astral magnet]

ig add that to pile also

[astral magnet]

Understandable

[errant flume]

In other words, Skitts broke the mod and needs to get to work

[astral magnet]

what

💀

also "skies"

not what i'm called lmao

[errant flume]

Mobile typo I quickly fixed it

[astral magnet]

fair enough

[safe bluff]

Ok skies

[wise python]

Idk why some playthroughs never log this error or what causes it, but sometimes it logs this error about the walker.

[astral magnet]

ah yeah this is worth investigating too though idk what'd cause it

prob a conflict or smth idk

[azure wedge]

👀

[potent otter]

Diversity 👀
Lime the mod from lethal company

[safe bluff]

Hell yeah I love Diversity, that ogopogo guy is so good

[azure wedge]

O.o

[bold gulch]

cant believe diversity is real
cant wait to gamble in the casino with maneater

[azure wedge]

[thin oxide]

redwood fire

[safe bluff]

red...wood?

[potent otter]

Excuse me?

[vestal ore]

[azure wedge]

[tight coral]

[azure wedge]

[tight coral]

[azure wedge]

[tight coral]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-gif-18163260

[azure wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gun-gif-8510554628372069925

[tight coral]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-didney-lan-you-are-going-to-senator-armstrong-raiden-gif-24977640

[azure wedge]

[tight coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421950852557705298/1476265566162387086/petpet.gif

[native wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-jones-uzbek-gif-9108365450976190246

[restive cave]

Might be an obvious answer but does everything in this mod function?

[gray leaf]

No

[crude dirge]

Isnt there like a laundry list of things you need to disable for the mod to work?

Plus DiversityNoFloopy is needed

Chaos isnt working on the mod anymore from what I understand, instead working on the diversity game. S1ckboy is going to be the new maintainer soon :p

[astral magnet]

At minimum the most game-breaking things are the posters and the lack of the watcher

Former you can just disable latter you'll have to either deal with it being everywhere or get nichetweaks to disable it without breaking everything

But there's so much more of the mod that just does not work at all rn

with a side of it also breaks some other mods because yes

[potent otter]

Mumumu

[astral magnet]

hi kiszont

[potent otter]

Wrong

[astral magnet]

sorry i made a typo

kiszony

[potent otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1162580518148255756/1168364738674180116/attachment-8.gif

||lets talk in spoilers and insult ultrakill players||

||you lost the game||

[astral magnet]

||why???????||

||also bruh||

[potent otter]

||hehehhehehhehehhehehhehehehe||

[vestal ore]

Gdi

[potent otter]

Teehee

[safe bluff]

how'd you get a picture of my house

my bed is on the other side of that room

[azure wedge]

👀

[vestal ore]

what are you doing in my bathroom?

[safe bluff]

wow hi squatter

[vestal ore]

[astral magnet]

bathroom?

[vestal ore]

Whats wrong with my bathroom?

[astral magnet]

why's it got a generator in it

[solid raptor]

to generate the illusion of a bathroom

that's what powers all of diversity

[tight coral]

this is very

diverse

[solid raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-spinning-pillow-this-server-is-powered-by-this-cat-cat-powered-server-gif-24179228

[tight coral]

[astral magnet]

fear of being locked in a bathroom or smth idk

[azure wedge]

What did I miss..?

[wise python]

the illusion of a bathroom

[potent otter]

||losing the game, dw about it, nothing much was missed tho||

[thin obsidian]

Are there any known incompatibilities?
I'm making a modpack and it would be helpful to know, thanks. ^^

[crude dirge]

Breathe on this mod and it will crash your game

/j
A good chunk of this mods features are broken. I wouldn’t recommend using it for now

A fix is being made by a new maintainer (eventually)

[thin obsidian]

Good to know, i remember the personal space of bracken in the v69 is be completely broke. then, maybe is continue broken, is so sad this mod look so nice.

[thorn drift]

It works for me on the latest version

Same with the watcher and the other thing

[thin obsidian]

Ty

[thin obsidian]

Is DiversityNoFloppy still necessary?

[vestal ore]

For now yes

[thin obsidian]

Ok, ty

[weary maple]

What happened to your roles?

[wise python]

no nitro

[gray leaf]

No money poor leubes

[wise python]

Diversity breaks discounts too?

nevermind

[wise python]

This time the snare flea wasn't destroyed, but LostEnemyFix teleported it into the nearest navmesh.

[azure wedge]

I'mma just put this out here:

I am cooking some FIRE soundtracks for Diversity. (Of many genres too.)

[bold gulch]

someone out there : insert random anime song in chase scene

[vestal ore]

https://klipy.com/gifs/runaway-anime

[astral magnet]

lmao

[craggy marten]

Hey @azure wedge for some reason graphics Api causes like 20-30 fps drop

Even when diversity is disabled

I mean id imagine some fps drop would occur, but 20-30 is way too much

(Btw me and my mates love the new enemies u added, like srsly those enemies are the reason this mod is our favorite mod)

[gray leaf]

New....

Chaos is no longer working on the mod

[wise python]

its pikachu

[gray leaf]

S1ckboy is in the process of learning the mod

So he can maintain it!!

But will take quite a while

[crude dirge]

S1ckboy is picking up every sidequest to avoid working on dojo

Dojo will be added to DawnLib next update

[gray leaf]

Bro

At least dojo gets mentioned

Prison is so joever

[wise python]

Are you playing with diversity?

[gray leaf]

Who are you asking

[wise python]

you 🫵

[gray leaf]

WHO'S YOU

[wise python]

Im Yu

[gray leaf]

Haii Yu im you

[astral magnet]

did chaos give s1ck lccutscene and graphicsapi also?

i thought it was just diversity

[gray leaf]

oh that idk

diversity does depend on them so if one of them is not working correctly

how could they fix it

[craggy marten]

Yeah, bc i noticed the fps issue seems to stem from. Graphics api

[craggy marten]

Ok, after further testing, i have deemed this to be an incorrect statement

[gray leaf]

Awww

:(

[craggy marten]

Yea, it might just be diversity itself

Which technically is good news because other mods depend on graohicsapi

[craggy marten]

Ok, so i can confirm that diversity itself is the issue

And the fps drop is usually between 10-25 less than without diversity

[wise python]

Its bc of floppydisck

Disk

Use nofloppydiversity

[astral magnet]

Less the discs more the reader

The floppy disc reader runs an audio visualisation thing CONSTANTLY no matter if it's actually needed in the moment or not

[gray leaf]

Less the disc, more the mod itself barely hanging

[astral magnet]

So yeah get diversitynofloppy and see if your fps goes back up @craggy marten

There might still be other performance problems (and problems in general 😭) but the floppy disc reader should be the main offender

for fps at least

[crude dirge]

i opened up the floppy disc reader and there was this short yellow mouse thing that said he was learning to fix it

i couldnt understand what else he was saying since he kept just saying the word "pika" over and over again

[craggy marten]

I already have it

[astral magnet]

Oh

[craggy marten]

Yeah....

[astral magnet]

Okay so it's something else then

I'm wondering exactly what now

[craggy marten]

I will still use the mod, but its a major drop in frames and should probably be looked jn to

019ce786-6ae9-93fd-22b4-bfdb31d9c9f2

This is the pack i use if the fps issues are only on my end

[astral magnet]

Afaik the floppy reader thing was found via someone doing a lil performance profiling

Idk how to do that magic myself it seems really annoying to set up

[craggy marten]

Diversity is disabled by default, so you will have to enable it to see the fps drop.

Any help is appreciated thx

[astral magnet]

not sure i'll be able to pick it out myself but if someone else is that'd prob be super helpful for s1ckboy when he gets to working on the mod

[safe bluff]

It's easy don't be lazy

[astral magnet]

okay yeah now i've found the tutorial you're right this doesn't seem too big a deal

Lemme

238 mods yikes

okay I'm seeing some potential issues with your pack even without running the profiler on it

Doorfix has its own problems right? I remember hearing buggy

Slimetamingfix might be either vanilla or another fix mod by now if it's deprecated

Correct if wrong

Yea you have butteryfixes, no need

rotate backwards seems like it'd be vanilla by now or otherwise unneeded? I've never seen that mod before

eh it's deprecated i wouldn't fuck with it

Betterbabies seems the type of thing v73 would've broken

wait

Yeah dynamicjestercrank is a known performance hog

[tight coral]

Well I mean

The Jester is cranking its hog

[astral magnet]

LMAO

[tight coral]

It only makes sense gurhehhee

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/575150885764726794/1465439300530471117/caption.gif

[astral magnet]

rest seems. fine?

tho I'll still profile with this anyway

once I set that up

[gray leaf]

Fps issues in this mod are well known and will get fixed when the time comes

Haiii

Hi mu

How u doiing

[wise python]

Enemies can't open doors bc of the door triggers changes

[astral magnet]

Yea sounds about right

Replacing fpts with fptsdebug on my end before I do anything

soo I may or may not have completely fucked it

The game booted okay into debug unity but i ran into fog of death presumably because of whatever the fuck happened here

I made sure to get the debug version of fpts so idk what went wrong

[safe bluff]

Right, give me a second

You don't have the right debug version of fpts

[astral magnet]

wtf

I got the latest version off thunderstore do I need to find it elsewhere?

[safe bluff]

Iirc thunderstore one was never updated

Just replace the dll

[astral magnet]

wow

Gotcha

yup doesn't seem to have errored this time, ty!

[safe bluff]

Wawawa

[astral magnet]

okay, that was a lie

smth else was freaking out

lemme double-check logs

[gray leaf]

Wawawawawawawawa

[astral magnet]

[Warning:InjectionLibrary] Skipping plugins\qwbarch-MirageCore\onnxruntime_providers_shared.dll because it's not a valid .NET assembly. Full error: Format of the executable (.exe) or library (.dll) is invalid.
[Warning:InjectionLibrary] Skipping plugins\qwbarch-MirageCore\SileroVAD.API.dll because it's not a valid .NET assembly. Full error: Format of the executable (.exe) or library (.dll) is invalid.
[Warning:InjectionLibrary] Skipping plugins\qwbarch-OpusDotNet\opus.dll because it's not a valid .NET assembly. Full error: Format of the executable (.exe) or library (.dll) is invalid.```
the fuck?

That seems like it'd screw smth up if mirage and its dependencies were clashing super hard with debug unity for some reason

Snowplaygrounds seems to be playing weird with this too

just profile it she said it'd be easy she said

i'm killing both mods

still getting fog of death

See "Script Serialization" page in the Unity Manual for further details.
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.Object.FindObjectsOfType[T] () (at <c39a522eee05469b8171a6cfeb646c59>:IL_0001)
Anomalocaris.Enemy.AnomalocarisAI..ctor () (at C:/Users/Cooper Lynn/source/repos/Anomalocaris/Enemy/AnomalocarisAI.cs:16)
UnityEngine.AssetBundle:LoadAsset(String)
Anomalocaris.Plugin:Awake() (at C:/Users/Cooper Lynn/source/repos/Anomalocaris/Plugin.cs:29)
UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type)
BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:DMD<BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start>()
MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition:Trampoline<BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start>?157589810()
AsyncLoggers.Patches.ChainloaderPatch:DetourStart(Action) (at ./Preloader/src/Patches/ChainloaderPatch.cs:42)
MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition:Hook<BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start>?1432087652()
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipelineAsset:OnEnable()```
what the fuck

ig i'm killing anomalocaris too!!! :D

nestfix????? 😭

does nothing work in debug?

Oh this plugin is not allowed to call this method in that place fuck you

shotgun roulette

fucking. piggy's variety mod

Look if I seemingly gotta disable all these mods just to do the one bit of profiling what's even the point what if one of those mods is the reason the fps drops were happening

what the FUCK is echo curse

maybe borked by new weatherregistry idk

fucking legendweathers yeah no screw this shit i'm not disabling that i'm just gonna open the pack again and pray

...

Yeah I uh. I think I'm leaving this one to a professional chief 🥀

idk how to get this to work

019ce805-9fc7-8750-bf7f-7f05adbe4afb This is what I have so far, with the dll for fpts debug replaced with the one xu gave further up

[safe bluff]

Lol

This is why I don't use imperium with my profiling pack

I literally cant

[astral magnet]

last log from trying to boot shit up

[astral magnet]

damn that bad huh lmao

[safe bluff]

It's just one script tries to do something it's not supposed to, errors out and breaks it

Same error you had basically

Best you can do is tell the Devs to fix it, it's a super easy fix anyway

[astral magnet]

When there's that many mods in the pack doing that shit it's like. man feels like whack-a-mole getting them all

[safe bluff]

Waiting for @gleaming jasper to push it :stab:

[safe bluff]

Also these warnings are fine

It's the errors from anomalocaris that are your issue

I wouldn't doubt if weather registry also does something it's not supposed to

[astral magnet]

ohh true

I'm gonna take a break for a second anyway then get back to bonking mods

[safe bluff]

Mrov codes how he likes, and doesn't really want to change that last time I talked to him about it iirc

[astral magnet]

until the pack opens

[safe bluff]

I haven't profiled in a while, but if new weather registry really is broken he's not gonna hear the end of it from me

[astral magnet]

this shit is doing wonders for my cortisol levels right now can't wait to go back to it /s

[gleaming jasper]

I have been summoned

tldr?

[astral magnet]

Apparently xu made a pull request about changing smth you did weird so your mod works in debug unity

[safe bluff]

Update imperium so I can use it while profiling thanks

[astral magnet]

for profiling purposes

[safe bluff]

I didn't make a PR but the changes were so simple we already talked about em and u probably did em

[astral magnet]

or i could be lying but still an issue

zoom is among the many mods breaking under debug unity apparently

See "Script Serialization" page in the Unity Manual for further details.
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.AI.NavMeshPath..ctor () (at <faa9705810b043f39075cb0d17951192>:IL_0008)
DiversityRemastered.Monsters.LongBoiAI..ctor () (at <fad1116f15204d3d8a42f4c34ec158c2>:IL_0019)
UnityEngine.AssetBundle:LoadAllAssets()
JLL.API.JFileHelper:SearchAllBundles()
JLL.API.Compatability.LLLHelper:LLLBundlesLoaded()```
OH WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT I HAVE TO DISABLE DIVERSITY

Y'KNOW. THE MOD I WAS TRYING TO CHECK FOR PERFORMANCE PROBLEMS IN THE FIRST PLACE

AWESOME!!!!!! SO COOL

[gleaming jasper]

maybe? I am honestly not sure
but if you made a PR that would definitely make sure its in the next update :3

[astral magnet]

...sorry trying to get profiling to run on this pack has been an experience

[safe bluff]

Did you push your changes so I know if it's been done

[safe bluff]

Loooooool

Following basic unity standards is not in the books for some of these mods

[astral magnet]

Hey at least I can profile

everything else

that isn't doing weird

in case maybe it's not diversity! :D

[gleaming jasper]

i pushed everything ive done for the next updsate to the development branch

[safe bluff]

Thanksies

I'll take a looksie later

[astral magnet]

i didn't even include the full error

i just saw LongBoiAI and was like

god damn it

[safe bluff]

So you have unity open now?

[astral magnet]

See "Script Serialization" page in the Unity Manual for further details.
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.AI.NavMeshPath..ctor () (at <faa9705810b043f39075cb0d17951192>:IL_0008)
DiversityRemastered.Monsters.LongBoiAI..ctor () (at <fad1116f15204d3d8a42f4c34ec158c2>:IL_0019)
UnityEngine.AssetBundle:LoadAllAssets()
JLL.API.JFileHelper:SearchAllBundles()
JLL.API.Compatability.LLLHelper:LLLBundlesLoaded()
LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundleLoader:InvokeBundlesFinishedLoading() (at ./Tools/AssetBundleLoader.cs:107)
LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedEvent:Invoke() (at ./General/EventPatches.cs:324)
LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundles.AssetBundleLoader:OnInitialBundlesProcessed() (at ./AssetBundles/AssetBundleLoader.cs:301)
LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundles.AssetBundleLoader:ProcessInitialBundleLoading(AssetBundleInfo) (at ./AssetBundles/AssetBundleLoader.cs:213)
LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedEvent`1:Invoke(AssetBundleInfo) (at ./General/EventPatches.cs:292)
LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundles.AssetBundleLoader:OnAssetBundleLoadChanged(AssetBundleInfo) (at ./AssetBundles/AssetBundleLoader.cs:189)
LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedEvent`1:Invoke(AssetBundleInfo) (at ./General/EventPatches.cs:292)
LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundles.<LoadBundleRequest>d__55:MoveNext() (at ./AssetBundles/AssetBundleInfo.cs:193)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)```
not like it adds much

[astral magnet]

Uh

I'm still going through logs and disablign shti

[safe bluff]

Lol

[astral magnet]

[16:25:23.8199799] [Error : Unity Log] UnityException: FindObjectsOfType is not allowed to be called from a MonoBehaviour constructor (or instance field initializer), call it in Awake or Start instead. Called from MonoBehaviour 'OgopogoAI'.
fuck my stupid chungus life

vermin is also doing this

openlib/terminalstuff seem wonky

so much openlib

lethalintelligence prob needs updated

okay let's see where we're at now once i reenable mirage

Finally got the game open and onto ship

Problem however

I uh. worry the brief guide I saw in dev-resources didn't actually go into detail on how to open unity things from where i'm at

because i got this

but no clue how to actually. open the profiler

@safe bluff

like there's docs but i'm too small brain to figure out how useful in my specific scenario

since they talk about stuff that would require me to have unity open? but like. in what project

I'm not opening my moon project for ts

or do i have to?

fuck it

[safe bluff]

Might as well

I usually already have the coderebirth project open

Probably just needs to be a project on the right version

[astral magnet]

am actively in process of doing that because i cannot be fucked to make another wholeass hdrp project for it

Got it

okay I should prob turn on deep profile

Not getting anything

I'm gonna fuck around and re-enable diversity because surely...

because idk if walker's been changed that much since revamp update and ik diversity was profileable before

[safe bluff]

No

[astral magnet]

?

why not

[safe bluff]

You need to setup stuff for that in the mod itself anyway

[astral magnet]

Ah fair

[safe bluff]

Just normal profiling is fine

Weird statement

[astral magnet]

Stuff seemed. fine? from what I saw

[safe bluff]

Mu is a profiler guys

[safe bluff]

What were you seeing

[astral magnet]

but that's with half the mods disabled including the one I was originally intending to disable

[astral magnet]

tbh i should've taken a screenshot

i'll do that again once am done testing this

okay yeah diversity's fine

It threw the error but not bricked

i'll be real i can't tell what am supposed to be looking for

[safe bluff]

Bring up the hierarchy

[astral magnet]

this?

[safe bluff]

Yeah

Sort it on total

[safe bluff]

The Update one, third one is probably what you wanna look at but overall they might all be getting contributed to by the mods

So just land and do whatever and keep an eye out for when frames seem high or spike

Then pause it and look at the profile dsta

[astral magnet]

Got it

Problem

It did not land

Parameter name: index
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T].get_Item (System.Int32 index) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_0009)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::SpawnScrapInLevel>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<RoundManager::SpawnScrapInLevel>?-1250560104(RoundManager)
Dawn.ItemRegistrationHandler.UpdateItemWeights (On.RoundManager+orig_SpawnScrapInLevel orig, RoundManager self) (at ./src/API/Items/.ItemRegistrationHandler.cs:107)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<RoundManager::SpawnScrapInLevel>?380776340(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::GeneratedFloorPostProcessing>(RoundManager)
RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__133.MoveNext () (at <83220f1fc337491eba19b3618ec61339>:IL_030D)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <c39a522eee05469b8171a6cfeb646c59>:IL_0026)```

It generated the seed and then softlocked

with this error

[potent otter]

mumumu

you're the best developer world has ever had

[astral magnet]

no 😭

[potent otter]

fym no

quit being modest

you made CR after all

[astral magnet]

i literally did not

Still struggling to see anything wrong but it doesn't help that smth is preventing ship landing

019ce838-179a-7b48-7d4b-e867f5f0e51b current version of code, w/updated fpts debug given by xu further up in thread

log

i can't be fucked to figure out what went wrong

[thin oxide]

I actually just gave this a go out of curiosity but i get the same error on this version regardless lmao

[safe bluff]

You replaced the right dll? Keep in mind this is the debug one

You can't launch through steam etc

[thin oxide]

Debug one didnt even download with a dll on thunderstore, so i replaced nothing

[safe bluff]

It should iirc

It's in like the patchers folder

Not plugins

[thin oxide]

oh okay this i what i get for being too used to opening plugins

wai

Zamn quite rare for me to actually crash straight to the desktop, almost never get that ever in lethal company on my end

but it did work im just in a messy 'testing pack'

it couldnt take it anymore

[safe bluff]

Lol

[native wadi]

[Debu

[azure wedge]

I missed a lot haven't I..?

[astral magnet]

Someone thought maybe new performance issue and I tried (and failed) to profile for it

fun stuff

maybe was one of the many mods i had to disable just to get onto the ship and then the ship didn't land, at which point i just gave up trying

Walker's doing a weird that debug unity didn't like - apparently you're not supposed to use InitializeNavMeshPath in constructor

or smth

Seemed harmless since I was eventually able to claw my way onto ship like I said but

yea

[wise python]

and frailty?

[opal lotus]

does anyone know why this happens?
this happens when I start the ship into a moon (which doesn't work because of the error)

[bold gulch]

do u have poster enabled ?
do u have watcher disabled ?

[opal lotus]

I found it out
it was because I had watcher disabled, but got nichetweaks to fix it out

[wise python]

Integrity, did you give Frailty to sickboy too? Its a little broken (not only steam)

[vestal ore]

Nope

[narrow echo]

is there a list

cause idk how i wouldve ever known that mod did that lol

[astral magnet]

idt there's a list i just

heard somewhere

[safe bluff]

Me when I make things up?

[astral magnet]

i swear i heard it somewhere

it could be mandela effect and am thinking of smth else

but idk

[safe bluff]

Me when I make things up 😔

Schizo

[crude dirge]

JesterStompShake you might be thinking of

Which doesn’t hog performance anymore

[astral magnet]

Oh prob

thanks for correcting my accidental misinfo 👍

[crude dirge]

A really cool mod, makes me crap myself

I wear the brown trousers when going to rend just incase

[safe bluff]

Only took mu a year and a half to realise there's no more performance hit from jester stomp

Iirc I pointed it out back then

[astral magnet]

my bad for being out of the loop 🥀

apology

[crude dirge]

Sentenced to the brazen bull

[astral magnet]

WAIT WHAT

NO

[safe bluff]

You weren't even in the community when it was updated 🥀

[astral magnet]

weird

wonder where i got the info from then

🤔

[crude dirge]

do you need a hand in fixing that

[wise python]

Im not sure, but i think broken arms from frailty sometimes will make bepinex spam-log gamenetcode errors.

[wise python]

Bracken's Angertime doesn't seem to last 90 secs

so probably it doesn't work too

[astral magnet]

Out of curiosity is this when the bracken is angered by standard vanilla means (hitting it, staring too long) or by the means diversity added (breaker, which is currently broken, and apparatus)

because the means diversity added are what should be triggering it for 90 seconds

[wise python]

Only breaker and apparatus

I did a lot both and it looks like the angertime is the vanilla one

[quiet plover]

Ok but what is up with the doors saying "this door looks odd"?

[gray leaf]

If walker grabs you 3 times and you go through that door you will be tped to a diff dimension

Pocket

[quiet plover]

Cool!

[astral magnet]

pre sure it's based on a hidden insanity stat the walker has actually, seperate to the vanilla one

The same one that controls the intermittent visual fuckery hallucination it does

Afaik it goes up passively when you have the walker in your fov, are targeted by it or by a pretty big chunk when it touches you

When it's sufficiently high and you're actively experiencing one of those hallucinations that's when you can go through that door

good luck getting it that high in normal play tho, it's weirdly done in such a way that you're probably never gonna see it without config fuckery etc.

@quiet plover

[quiet plover]

I see, thanks!

[astral magnet]

np

[random pebble]

yeah no i was gonna ask like

has there been anybody that's realistically gotten either sent to the staircase or entered the door with their sanity that low?

because i reeeeeaallllllly want this dude to work

but every time he only really jumpscares the hell outta my friend that hosts the lobby

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1465766993108930735/1484626129624109366/MedalTVLethalCompany20260319154746109-tr-edit.mp4?ex=69bee954&is=69bd97d4&hm=94c360c172b67346336822033537cee2c93acd2adc998267161ce1cd8c7f681f&

[gray leaf]

Ive been sent to staircase a few times after messing with the configs

But door, never

[astral magnet]

The staircase is a lil easier to adjust for for a good experience but with defaults I doubt it

You have to adjust for either staircase or door

Can't easily have both

[random pebble]

yeah i'd plan on adjusting the configs to make it easier

[astral magnet]

🥀

[random pebble]

what do yall have for them if yall remember?

[astral magnet]

I personally prefer the staircase, the door is kinda

lame

on the inside

Lot of narrative potential based on what it is! but it's kinda lacking in stuff ||beyond just being a maze with a damage over time effect||

[safe bluff]

Isn't the staircase just a looping staircase

How does it get more boring than that

[random pebble]

idk what either place is but it's a new experience

[gray leaf]

Has a few scares and things

Iirc

[random pebble]

i'd rather have more stuff than the dude just appearing once in a blue moon to raise blood pressure for a good 10 seconds

i think messing with the lurk time is probably the key actually

idk if the touch amount actually does anything bc it's set to one but my friend still didn't get teleported

so i might set the amount back to 2 and maybe set the stair multiplier to a whole number?

we work off being naturally faster than regular lethal since it kinda feels like a slog without it so we'd be fine with extra length

[astral magnet]

Lurk time means time between it showing up/picking targets/etc.

[astral magnet]

Touch amount does actually do something it's just that it technically takes one more touch than whatever you put in there

Once it's touched as many times as that touch amount is set to next it shows up it will book it to its next target and take them to the stairs when it nabs them

[astral magnet]

stairs too long i'd make shorter personally

otherwise they're too long for someone to hypothetically leave on time

[random pebble]

ahhh i see

wait

oh damn so you gotta encounter the dude 4 times in a row on the same moon by default

just to get that staircase

[bold gulch]

in my experience with the default values
even if i get TP'ed to the stairs from start from finish of the day i never reached the door
i need to significantly cut the stairs length and lower the encounter count
could also be skill issue on my part idk

[sleek robin]

Quick question, do we know if Diversity isn't compatible with a specific mod

A normal 109 mod pack I have, I get perma stuck in generating a seed, went through disabling mods 1 by 1, it's Diversity

[bold gulch]

current 2 gamebreaking stuff is if the poster being enabled and watcher being disabled
dont remember if theres other

[sleek robin]

...

the way I have posters enabled and watcher disabled

LMFAO

That's unlucky

[thin oxide]

I beleive ship camera also does something not very wholesome

[sleek robin]

Ship camera?

[sleek robin]

So enabling watcher but setting the Weight to 0 made it spawn in still sadly

Am I stupid? I thought smaller weight = less likely

[gray leaf]

yes thats what it means but its broken

use nichetweaks to fix that

[sleek robin]

You're awesome, ty

[gray leaf]

no u :3

[thin oxide]

the ship cinematic right?

[sleek robin]

OH

[thin oxide]

im not crazy right that did have issues, i ended up not using diversity in the end...

so i forgot

[sleek robin]

I thought you meant like body camera mod or something

Like one that shows you around the ship

[thin oxide]

openbodycams is le safe

[sleek robin]

Ok yeah because I have that one

I use to mod LC a lot, but then the dreaded recent patch hit, and modding is so sketch

[thin oxide]

jus wait til what v80 is gon do..

[sleek robin]

Every mod you install is a gamble

😭

[gray leaf]

not if you trust

[sleek robin]

So this will just straight up fix Watcher? I can put him as Disabled?

Or Enable him but set his weight to 0?

[thin oxide]

yes

[sleek robin]

kk

ty

[plucky folio]

So how broken is this rn? I saw ppl mention the posters and watcher, but what's wrong with them?

[astral magnet]

Overall? extremely. in the case of specifically what you mentioned the posters break multiplayer when enabled, the watcher is a guaranteed spawn ignoring its spawn weights and breaks landing if it's disabled without the fix in nichetweaks

But there's way more that just does not work as intended

[quiet plover]

That’s sad tho

[pure shuttle]

Is there anything I should be careful of when adding this to a modpack? I’ve read a tiny bit of the stuff above, so I’ve decided to add niche tweaks, but I don’t really know what’s exactly wrong with it (seemed fine in testing, although I didn’t do much)

I’m planning on playing with my friends at some point

[gray leaf]

disable posters

only disable watcher if you enable the fix in nichetweaks

beware that most other features in the mod are either completely non functional or not working as intended

also expect longer loading times

[pure shuttle]

alright thanks

[gray leaf]

i really think the issues outweight the features

even tho this is one of my fav mods of all time

i cannot recommend it in this state