Diversity

[safe bluff]

you now have your materials in a folder, you can assign them texture or whatever and itll apply to your fbx

you can also change their shader

to whatever hdrp toon shader you have

idk what vrm is but you can just look up liltoon shaders if you dont have any

[azure wedge]

I love how there's 2 completely different conversations going on here LOL

[errant flume]

Does liltoon work with HDRP? Ideally I prefer Poiyomi and I don't think it works with it

[safe bluff]

i sent testaccount your model in a unity package so im pretty sure i have that somewhere

[azure wedge]

Both works

[astral magnet]

Yeah am pre sure they use poiyomi on their models

[safe bluff]

liltoon has an HDRP version/works with HDRP

[lean ibex]

I'm gonna assume that the walker dungeon doesn't run async like loadstone generation does

[astral magnet]

Yeah

[safe bluff]

poiyomi is just absolute garbage

[lean ibex]

Which would be why it freezes the game while it generates

[safe bluff]

if it only supports built in

which unity has abandoned a while ago

[errant flume]

Poi is actually better, it just doesn't support HDRP cus it's primarily for VRChat models and stuff

my VSFAvatars use it cus it's higher quality than liltoon

[azure wedge]

TO correct you, only a few features support HDRP. Not the whole shader itself. Also depends on which poiyomi shader you use too. Poiyomi toon doesn't AFAIK.

I think some pro feature does.

[astral magnet]

||all that freeze for a dungeon barely anyone on earth has seen ingame, love to see it||

[safe bluff]

of course only the paid version does lol

liltoon should be fine for what you want, it's very customisable

i use it for the duck

[azure wedge]

Yup. I made my own toon shader from scratch lol, works with HDRP and all.

[azure wedge]

IM SORRY

[errant flume]

Is there an easy way to get 1.8.5 into Unity since that one doesn't come with a Unity Package?

[azure wedge]

I thought I balanced the door correctly...

[astral magnet]

It's fine

I'm looking forward to actually being able to get in there LMAO

[lean ibex]

Would it be possible to get in contact with loadstone dev or someone to get it running async? Loadstones generation is really fast at least on my device, I'm sure it would help a lot (no pressure ofc)

[safe bluff]

1.8.5 wut

[errant flume]

of liltoon

lol

[azure wedge]

I have a few idea on how to optimize it though

[safe bluff]

did you add the very new FindObjectsOfType node into the update for that shader too

[errant flume]

https://github.com/lilxyzw/lilToon/releases/tag/1.8.5

[safe bluff]

oh just import it as a package

actually not that one

https://github.com/lilxyzw/lilToon.git?path=Assets/lilToon#master

that i think

go to your package manager and press import with git URL

and put that in

package manager

[azure wedge]

Instead of actually generating the whole thing within a single frame, I could generate the layout first, and the other seed related genration (The most important thing). THEN, actually start building the dungeon from the layout asyncronously.

[astral magnet]

Mayhaps

dunno how all that stuff works but might be better than doing it all at once

[lean ibex]

That would prob help

[azure wedge]

Yeah that means I have to recode my entire dungeon gen library ;-;

[astral magnet]

oh god

[errant flume]

Hmmm that seems to have not worked

lol

[azure wedge]

Having to fix one big issue is fine

Having to fix 734948709 small issues... God help..

It's easy, but soooo time consuming

[safe bluff]

you pressed that?

[errant flume]

Yeah it gave an error

[safe bluff]

what's the error

[azure wedge]

@errant flume You have git installed?

[errant flume]

No

[azure wedge]

Without git, git imports won't work.

[errant flume]

Ah

[safe bluff]

then just use the unity package

[azure wedge]

^

[lean ibex]

I would try to help but you definitely know more than I do about this kinda stuff

[errant flume]

Yeah 1.7.3 is prolly fine

[astral magnet]

Ah yeah true there's a lot of little things in the mod atm on top of that

[safe bluff]

though i cant really find where they put their unity packages

[azure wedge]

The diversity mod itself ia like... 40% of a game development itself....

There's so much going on...

[astral magnet]

for uh

[safe bluff]

oh latest package is on 1.7.3? that's weird

[astral magnet]

changes to vanilla enemies

[safe bluff]

just install git luni

[astral magnet]

2 new ones, one of which is so far removed from anything vanilla other mods can't detect it

[errant flume]

git-scm.com?

[astral magnet]

Annoying speaker guy

Ship cutscene

[safe bluff]

yeah that one

[astral magnet]

New cold open

PC that loads audio logs

[azure wedge]

ANimations, models, sounds, a whole AI from scratch, dungeon gen from scratch, and all the edits and all and bla bla bla...

[astral magnet]

Yup

[safe bluff]

if diversity is 40% coderebirth is nearing 100%

[astral magnet]

Epic shader vfx

[azure wedge]

I haven't seen code rebirth in a while

[safe bluff]

it's got a bit more content than the last tiem you saw probably

[azure wedge]

Trueee

[astral magnet]

Coderebirth's gotten a bunch of content and has a big update on the way adding even more

[safe bluff]

and i've been working on its biggest update for a good month or two now

[astral magnet]

Have been looking forward to that for a lil while

[astral magnet]

ACTUALLY SPEAKING OF WHICH

Extremely minor mod incompat

I think your shader stuff's breaking the shader stuff s1ckboy's moon lurkin does

for its gimmick

[azure wedge]

Oh?

[safe bluff]

lurkin doesnt use shaders

[astral magnet]

Incredibly minor because it's a gimmick moon but worth noting

[safe bluff]

uses custom passes

[astral magnet]

Okay custom passes didn't realise there was a difference

[safe bluff]

there is yeah

[astral magnet]

Lurkin is typically completely blacked out with white outlines around everything

Diversity breaks those white outlines and makes it impossible to see anything

[azure wedge]

Oh that, Yeah I helped him I think for that....

[safe bluff]

no that was me

smh

https://github.com/alelievr/HDRP-Custom-Passes we got teh TIPS effect from this project

and imported it into lethal

[azure wedge]

Yeah I know he DMed me about it. I helped him too c:

[safe bluff]

nuhuh

[azure wedge]

Yuh uh

Not for importing but the wonky stuff about passes

[astral magnet]

So I assume diversity does custom pass stuff too

[azure wedge]

And shader too a bit if I recall... not sure it been a while

[azure wedge]

Yuppp

[astral magnet]

I wonder how much is shader how much is custom pass idk the difference

[safe bluff]

he might have a shader somewhere idk, but the whole effect is just the tips custom pass

[azure wedge]

It's uhhh complicated but to be simple uhh

[errant flume]

You got a text editor you recommend for Git?

it's asking for one lol

[safe bluff]

uhhh, you can probably give it whatever, u wont actually be using git

[azure wedge]

Shader on materials you slam it onto a model, boom woah... Cool model! Passes are like instagram filters, but dissected into multiple step which you can alter to make even more instagram filters!

[safe bluff]

unity handles all that for you, you just need it's existencen

[errant flume]

I'll just tell it to use Notepad lmao

[safe bluff]

yeah u can always change it

[azure wedge]

WOnky explaination... hope you understand it LOL

[astral magnet]

Yeah I think I get it

[safe bluff]

a custom pass is quite literally a pass through what the camera sees

[astral magnet]

Shaders idk where you'd be using them but you'd probs be putting them on your enemies

[safe bluff]

a shader is an effect applied on a material

/object that owns that material

[astral magnet]

A custom pass would be like ||the walker's screentearing, or the hallucinations||

[safe bluff]

well

those probably use volume profiles

or something similar

idk what the hallucinations are but the screen tearing anyway

[azure wedge]

Erm actually a custom pass is a step you add to the whole unity graphic engine. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1232482248016527483/1315549329901223956/HDRP-frame-graph-diagram.png?ex=67ef6cc9&is=67ee1b49&hm=d024aec3f931f63389917654b2271a780c665d1b47a89ab6e41875c9b9035871&

LOL

[safe bluff]

nerd

[astral magnet]

Essentially ||a black-and-white blotchy filter over everything, temporarily||

[safe bluff]

yeah i'd do that through a volume profile

[azure wedge]

But yeah that's how unity renders their game in HDRP step by step in the image above.

[safe bluff]

which is also a sort of pass you'd apply on a camera

but has less control than a custom pass

[azure wedge]

Custom passes allows you to add a pass within this whole process, allowing you to alter the rendering.

[astral magnet]

icic

[safe bluff]

though i didnt know you could do animated volume profiles, if the effect did use a volume profile

im sure you can attach an animator and have it cycle through a bunch of images

i just never tried and it didnt seem natively supported like for sprite renderers and whatnot

[azure wedge]

Unity allows us to use the purple rectangle as places we can add those custom passes, depending the pass, one pass could completely override one depending their 'queue' in the whole process.

And the green ones too for certain conditions too if I'm correct.

Getting more technical here but that is also some uncharted territory for me.

[astral magnet]

||Though I'll note that I think it's a lil weird and out-of-character that the sus door's dungeon is completely plain white so it's highly likely while you're actually in there a custom pass/volume profile/? is applied to make it not just be plain white||

||looking at chaos' screen of it taken from outside||

[safe bluff]

the walls and whatnot are a shader afaik

[azure wedge]

Correct! You're smart. c:

[safe bluff]

oh are they not?

i remember you showing a bloody shader

[azure wedge]

Yee that's a pass c:

[safe bluff]

yeah yeah

[astral magnet]

Oh what's that about

||The red tinge when you've been going down the stairs a while?||

[safe bluff]

i would do that with a volume profile

[azure wedge]

Screenshots of it when I was working on it

[azure wedge]

Stairs are just plain material, no pass

[astral magnet]

||Looks low-key like the hallucination pass||

[azure wedge]

It is

[astral magnet]

oh damn

[azure wedge]

That was the WIP

Also about the dungeon genaration, My thing is quite fast...

Those are monstruosity it could generate...

[astral magnet]

Holy fucking bejeesus I could get lost in that for several ingame days straight

[safe bluff]

ingame days?

[errant flume]

I still can't add the package even after installing Git

[safe bluff]

i think you'd be there for an actual day

lol

[errant flume]

do I need to reboot?

[astral magnet]

Okay no fuck ingame days

An actual irl day

[safe bluff]

i think unity needs to reload

to register it

[errant flume]

Oh

Yeah I didn't relaunch the hub

LOL

[astral magnet]

And not just "for as long as I'm awake" I mean a full 24 hours

[safe bluff]

okay we get it you love the dungeon and u wanna stare into its eyes for a whole day

go flirt elsewhere

[astral magnet]

LOL

[errant flume]

That worked

[safe bluff]

noice

[azure wedge]

More... Imagine you were ther IRL. You'd get lost, walk the same path a couple times over and over. It'd take you many days I'd say....

[errant flume]

I also installed the latest UniVRM so I can do this much quicker now that I know what the issue was

lol

[azure wedge]

👀

[errant flume]

I thought liltoon didn't support HDRP for some reason

[astral magnet]

||How very walker of it to be that big||

[azure wedge]

Let her have her moment LOL

[crude dirge]

Lore accurate titan

[astral magnet]

LMAO

[azure wedge]

LOL

[astral magnet]

||But I fuckin hope it's not actually that big in the current release how tf would I reasonably leave then 💀||

[safe bluff]

i think you'd have performance issues with that size lol

generation isnt often the most important problem

[astral magnet]

||As it is the stairs already have you held up in them for most of an ingame day assuming default settings and that you're sent there immediately||

yeah probably LMAO

[azure wedge]

It's reasonable.... I think....................?

[safe bluff]

for those types of sizes you'd need to implement some better AI navigation

some of the tech open world games use

[astral magnet]

Uh

[safe bluff]

like local navmesh

[astral magnet]

Assuming there's monsters in that

[azure wedge]

No enemies can be found there... yet...

[safe bluff]

[astral magnet]

Okay so there's no monsters in that

Means it must be totally safe inside! :D

[azure wedge]

Yet is the keyword

[azure wedge]

No.

It isn't

[astral magnet]

I mean yeah I figured

[azure wedge]

||Your brain melts in there||

[astral magnet]

||Not a concerning thing to say whatsoever||

[azure wedge]

LOL

[astral magnet]

||but also very in-character of the walker for its dungeon to do that||

[crude dirge]

||The SCP-106 allegations are canon||

[astral magnet]

||I mean idk 106 prefers physical harm primarily||

[azure wedge]

||You're literally walking in his brain and thoughts sooo.... OOps lore revealed....||

[astral magnet]

||Oh fuck||

[azure wedge]

||His fears, his suffering, his agony....||

[crude dirge]

||Climbing down the stairs physically harms me||

[safe bluff]

so thats why its so dumb

[astral magnet]

||I mean considering what little I know of his backstory I'd expect his mind to be kinda just a smidge just a LITTLE BIT fucked up||

[astral magnet]

||actually yeah true, physical exhaustion||

[azure wedge]

||I mean he saw his daughter brutally killed sooooooooooooooooo.......||

[astral magnet]

||mmmmmyup he sure did||

[crude dirge]

Undertale Yellow

[azure wedge]

||We're not talking about the rest of the familly.......||

[astral magnet]

||Ffs don't tell me diversity did some of their totally ethical experiments being done for good reason trust us guys on them too ||

||Oh trust me it's SO ETHICAL and awesome you'll love it, they say as they shove a baby into a meat grinder and a manticoil flies out the other end||

[azure wedge]

Spoiler alert: ||The mother of the girl, AKA his wife, worked for Diversity, and personally conducted THEIR experiments.||

[astral magnet]

||What the fuck that's somehow worse||

[azure wedge]

Maybe I am the worse of them all... I created all of this to begin with....

[errant flume]

God HDRP Unity is so dark

[azure wedge]

Am I okay?

[astral magnet]

i mean I'm sure it's fine

I mentioned just the other day I like me some mildly fucked shit

[azure wedge]

HDRP environment really, don't bother.

[errant flume]

Okay time to find out how I take the hair off the model

[crude dirge]

If diversity stops updating then integrity got put in a psych ward

[azure wedge]

Welcome to the club

[azure wedge]

Which integrity?

👀

[astral magnet]

^ this one

presumably

[safe bluff]

yes the definition of the lit shader is that light affects it, you can use unlit if you want to be unaffected to light, the toon shader should have an unlit option

[azure wedge]

We're many to hold this name

[errant flume]

Ears are somehow part of the body lol

[crude dirge]

It stands true

[errant flume]

No idea what I do here

[safe bluff]

what're u trying to do

[azure wedge]

Yippieeee!

[errant flume]

Convert the hair to a cosmetic

Hair + the ears

[azure wedge]

Wait I shouldn't be cheering...

[safe bluff]

oh like in lethal

[crude dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-cat-gatito-crazy-insane-gif-4445261359056491120

[safe bluff]

uhh i have no idea how to create cosmetics in lethal, i dislike that its part of morecompany and i never looked into it

so you'd probably need to check with someone who's added cosmetics before

[errant flume]

Lmao fair

[azure wedge]

Who hurt me like that?

[astral magnet]

chaos in the psych ward after his own creations turn on him

[azure wedge]

All fun and game until Diversity Corp. opens nearby your place

[safe bluff]

i hate diversity

grr

[astral magnet]

||lolmao sign me up i think being a fucked up creature would be awesome /s||

[safe bluff]

especially when its biological

[azure wedge]

So much hate ;-;

[azure wedge]

Uhh... Are you okay?

[astral magnet]

I said /s

💀

[azure wedge]

Oh.

I stoppid

[safe bluff]

people dont know that /s is sarcasm

it reads as serious to some

i used to think it meant serious too

[azure wedge]

I'm blind

[astral magnet]

Isn't there /srs for serious

[safe bluff]

yes but who thinks of sarcasm

/j is what i do for joking

[crude dirge]

I hate it when my bio is diverse

[astral magnet]

yea fair

[azure wedge]

/div

👀

[astral magnet]

/j would work there also

[safe bluff]

/no

[azure wedge]

/yes

[safe bluff]

it stands for something

trust me

[azure wedge]

Does it?

[safe bluff]

no

[azure wedge]

...

;-;

[potent otter]

||█████████████||

[safe bluff]

it stands for gullible above your ceiling actually

[azure wedge]

Flashbanged ;-;

[safe bluff]

but i can break its knees if need be

[astral magnet]

lmfao

[vestal ore]

Wtf

[safe bluff]

dojo wen

[astral magnet]

||In all seriousness though if diversity was real we would all be fucked I don't wanna meet the walker irl ||

[vestal ore]

Never, Rodrigo ate it

[azure wedge]

Bunk-corp is seeking for your help

[astral magnet]

||He spooks me enough as it is ingame||

[safe bluff]

what a stupid statement

no wonder people die so often in horror movies

you're one of those who would die immediately

[astral magnet]

nah i'm built different

(i don't think i actually am)

[safe bluff]

you'd be too shocked looking at a zombie

[azure wedge]

If Diversity existed wouldn't I be the CEO... Wait fuck-

[astral magnet]

Oh god

[safe bluff]

"oh my god i cant believe this, it's a zombie, what am i gonna do" while being eaten

[vestal ore]

And you would be the one who investigates the noise and recommends splitting up Xu

[safe bluff]

i caused the noise, why else would we split up

[astral magnet]

I mean I doubt it'd be like that 💀

[safe bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241786100201160784/1356422008061034526/CodeBirthisDeprecates.gif

[astral magnet]

I have the common sense to fucking run

[safe bluff]

there's a reason i was banished

to teh dark realm

[safe bluff]

idk you seem pretty nonsensical

[azure wedge]

Beware of syringes..

That's all I'm gonna say

[astral magnet]

...wdym beware of syringes chaos

[safe bluff]

captain obvious

[azure wedge]

Don't worry about it....

[astral magnet]

I mean yeah obviously I'm not gonna inject some randomass chemical x into myself

[safe bluff]

mu were u planning on injecting any wild syringes today?

[azure wedge]

WHo said yourself...?

[astral magnet]

Again, common sense

[safe bluff]

well if someone attacks mu i doubt she has much of a choice

[astral magnet]

Yeah idk if I'm good in combat irl

[safe bluff]

"walker sir, have some manners, use a knife not a syringe"

[safe bluff]

i can protecc i did karate for like 8 years

[astral magnet]

I don't think the walker deals in syringes

[safe bluff]

idk who the syringe guy is i dont play this mod

[astral magnet]

||I. get the feeling whoever brought it into being did||

[azure wedge]

Karate against DIversity is like saying karate against the SCP foundation...

[safe bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/hwei-sebastian-int-noob-gold-or-silver-gif-15788893945194952515

i doint know what the pink text means

[vestal ore]

https://tenor.com/view/liven-wins-gif-1624006861868280302

[astral magnet]

Yeah bro gonna karate chop something I can't even see and can barely even comprehend

That isn't even corporeal

[safe bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-gif-4448408

[vestal ore]

https://tenor.com/view/cas-van-de-pol-jessie-james-james-jessie-pokemon-pikachu-gif-12159600905576543465

[safe bluff]

only karate thing you know about, the chop

[azure wedge]

The walker stands in between physical and 'hallucination' / spiritual you could say

[astral magnet]

I see

[safe bluff]

tell him to sit down

[azure wedge]

He isn't both but neither of them...

[astral magnet]

So not smth I could karate chop or whatever

[safe bluff]

standing too long is bad for the health

[azure wedge]

You could in certain condition, at the cost of your hand of course...

[astral magnet]

Oh so he's corrosive huh

Not beating the 106 allegations

[azure wedge]

Not even

[astral magnet]

Not even???

[safe bluff]

sometimes i wonder what happens at that brain of mu's

[azure wedge]

Imagine he takes you at the stairs right

[safe bluff]

im imagining

go on

[astral magnet]

Mhm

[safe bluff]

freaky fantasy so far but go on

[azure wedge]

But only half of you then he stops. What do you think would happen..?

[astral magnet]

Oh so he could just

sever a limb

[azure wedge]

Yeahhhhh

[safe bluff]

omg

[astral magnet]

by only half-taking me

[safe bluff]

the walker

its

[astral magnet]

That's fucked

[safe bluff]

a JOJO STAND

[astral magnet]

HAHAHAHA

[azure wedge]

NOOO

[safe bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hand-gif-27379829

the walker is in reality a user of the hand stand

[astral magnet]

I wasn't aware everything okuyasu slices out of existence goes to the stairs

[safe bluff]

he cuts space! it makes so much sense now

[azure wedge]

I don't wanna live through this ;-; Mom come pick me up

[safe bluff]

gosh you should've just told us it's a jojo reference

[safe bluff]

we dont really know where it goes

afaik anyway

[azure wedge]

Say hi to bob.

[safe bluff]

lol i remember that

[astral magnet]

Is that scuffed lil model to the side meant to be a camcorder

[safe bluff]

flashlight i think

[azure wedge]

^

[astral magnet]

||I remember you'd take out a camcorder in the stairs cutscene and then you wouldn't get to keep it||

oh that makes more sense

[azure wedge]

That isn't the mod btw

[astral magnet]

Yeah this looks more like the standalone game

[azure wedge]

But my actual game

Yeeee

[safe bluff]

where's the hot women

walkette

[astral magnet]

LMAO

[azure wedge]

No fan service

[safe bluff]

bad game

[astral magnet]

||didn't we just go over the fact she made the walker-||

i mean what

[azure wedge]

She?

[safe bluff]

who's she

[astral magnet]

||Okay, was part of the creation of the walker||

||Indirectly||

[azure wedge]

Who's she?

[safe bluff]

urmom

got em

[astral magnet]

||Uh. his wife?||

[azure wedge]

Oh right

[safe bluff]

i think his mom probably comes first in making a person

[astral magnet]

||or at least you said she was part of the experiments done on him||

[azure wedge]

For a sec I thought you meant me LOL

I was gonna be like

[safe bluff]

yeah same

[astral magnet]

LMAO

[azure wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/gender-bender-gender-mtf-anime-gif-22298021

Me ^

[safe bluff]

i was like, i know chaos is a bit quirky but i didnt realise he crossed

[astral magnet]

||xu made the walker read all about it||

[safe bluff]

i did yeah

so wait am i ||the wife|| now?

[azure wedge]

Xu is the actual dev of Diversity confirmed???

[safe bluff]

i'm the dev of all lethal mods

i just dont like to show it

[astral magnet]

lmfao

[safe bluff]

i maintain this community with my own two hands

now we just wait for the ego allegations

[azure wedge]

LOL

Xu can you make me some food?

[safe bluff]

as a manager and creator of everything

i delegate

[azure wedge]

Bob looking around

[safe bluff]

@astral magnet go make him food

[astral magnet]

||In all seriousness tho I do occasionally wonder what an irl encounter with a walker would be like||

[safe bluff]

what even goes on in your brain

[astral magnet]

||Obvs through the lens of him being in a videogame it's just "oh i'm wandering about all casual-like AH FUCK FHWJSISJSJS fuckin asshole jumpscared me AGAIN"||

Normal human things

I hope

[azure wedge]

||Eyes twitching, feeling something passing through you, your organs feels like they all been rearranged. Of course the immense sense of fear it gives. and more that fear would to do you.||

[astral magnet]

||Oh god that would be all kinds of disorienting||

[azure wedge]

First step would be when everyone else sees it and tells you about it, first step of the fear already starting, then the rising feeling of all of that happening as he approaches you.

[astral magnet]

Oh god yeah true

||And then eventually you get dragged into the ground and stuck walking down stairs for potentially hours even days on end||

[azure wedge]

||Don't forget the hallucinations and PTSD it'll give you for a WHILE||

[astral magnet]

||Honestly yeah that'd make sense||

[azure wedge]

Yeah anyone encountering him would be sent straight to the mental asylum..

LOL

[astral magnet]

lmfao

[azure wedge]

I am... starvingggg

[astral magnet]

yeah go eat, and then sleep isn't it 7 am for you

[azure wedge]

Get's an idea of a monster to do from that...

[astral magnet]

oh god

[azure wedge]

Shhhhhhhhhh

Blame life for that one

[astral magnet]

fair

[azure wedge]

Walker pls send me to sleep...

[safe bluff]

never with you

[azure wedge]

Wouldn't you like the walking telling you bedtime stories?

[safe bluff]

the walking is my favourite enemy

[astral magnet]

Absolutely not :D

[azure wedge]

:c

[astral magnet]

i mean idk knowing the walker he'd probably pick the most nightmarish story possible

and idk if i jam with fucked up shit that much

Or he'd forgo the story and just do his usual thing which would be worse

[azure wedge]

He could just bring you into those....

[astral magnet]

Y'know he probably could yeah

||I doubt the stairs are just smth that exists everywhere without his presence (technically as a gameplay concession they do but lore-wise)||

||makes more sense he makes that shit||

||Tangentially related considering the diversity bracken was born of more or less the same process that's probably how its hallway exists too||

[azure wedge]

||The stairs existed before him||

[astral magnet]

||before???||

||how tf does that work||

[azure wedge]

||If you remember, the walker isn't the only entity in there...||

[astral magnet]

||I. don't think I've seen this "other entity" you speak of the few times I've been||

||I know sometimes I get pretty harsh increases in static but I just go "idk what THAT is but I don't like it I'm just gonna ignore it and keep going"||

[azure wedge]

||The stairs have been created by something or someone...||

[azure wedge]

||The eyes in the wall... remember?||

[astral magnet]

||Haven't seen them||

||I might've spotted a weird crack but never felt safe to linger long enough to examine them closely||

||Static doesn't help if that's related||

[azure wedge]

||Yeah you can see the eyes in them sometimes||

[astral magnet]

||Huh. ||

||Well that's something to risk lingering a little bit to see if I can spot it next time I'm in the mental equivalent of a meat grinder||

[azure wedge]

LOL

[astral magnet]

||Actually on that note judging by the ominous bloody messages I assume lingering is generally frowned upon but I've no clue how much I can get away with||

[azure wedge]

Ohhh yeah those...

[astral magnet]

||I tried a smidge when testing the full length setting out of curiosity but didn't get any results||

[azure wedge]

||Those aren't written by the walker btw...||

[astral magnet]

||Written by the eyes in the wall I take it?||

||damn this other critter and the walker have been in cahoots this whole time and I had no idea||

[crude dirge]

||Survivors I’d assume||

[azure wedge]

Nope

[astral magnet]

||...or actually no even worse, maybe written by fellow employees?||

[crude dirge]

||People lost in the stairwell||

[astral magnet]

||Other randoms?||

||People diversity tossed in there for fun and profit?||

||Assuming they did that among their many crimes||

[azure wedge]

||The victims of the walker. imagine hallucinating so much that the walker's voice in constant repeat in your head makes you write what he's saying to you with your own blood.||

[astral magnet]

||He can do that???? ||

[azure wedge]

||He can do ANYTHING mind related||

[astral magnet]

||That's somehow worse than just "written by his past victims"||

[azure wedge]

||Imagine hearing "Keep walking" in your head by a horrifying voice over and over again veryyy loudly in your head. You'd be bound to lose your sh*t and get driven to insanity.||

[astral magnet]

||I would've originally thought the messages themselves were hallucinations not real brought into being via brute force repetition directly into the brains of people that were there before||

||God yeah I'd probably lose it why isn't that in game that sounds NEFARIOUS||

[azure wedge]

I thought of it but company workers are built different

JK LOL

[astral magnet]

No vas for it?

[azure wedge]

Not that it's just if technically if you were driven to that point you wouldn't be able to think rationally. Which brings this issue: How tf do I code "players being irrational"?

[astral magnet]

Yeaaah fair

[azure wedge]

Y'all are just very strong minded c:

[astral magnet]

||I mean you could still have the voice lines regardless but if they get loud enough you blink, suddenly take a ton of damage and the message is there in front of you||

[azure wedge]

I...

Just got an idea...

[astral magnet]

oh god

[azure wedge]

Oh boy wait a minute

I'm cooking

[astral magnet]

ohohohoh shit

||Probably more you could do to enhance that effect but idk||

[azure wedge]

No no no something completely unique and unrelated to any monster so far...

[astral magnet]

||Though typically the hud isn't visible in the stairs so suddenly taking damage might not have the same impact||

[astral magnet]

oh god what have i done

[azure wedge]

Thank youuuuuuuuuuu

[safe bluff]

mu is STILL yapping? damn

deserving of the yapperton title

[azure wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-yapping-aizen-expected-gif-13497537626694740557

[astral magnet]

i like the spooky mod

a perfectly healthy amount

[safe bluff]

never yapped this hard about coderebirth

[astral magnet]

trust

[azure wedge]

Only the mod, not me :c

[safe bluff]

yeah back off buddy

priorities

[azure wedge]

LMAO

[astral magnet]

Oh no you're cool too this convo and the one yesterday was a ton of fun

LMAO

[azure wedge]

It's okay dw I was only joking

[safe bluff]

i wasnt

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

the abuse mu puts me through

[astral magnet]

I mean I'm sure there'll be plenty to yap about regarding cr once it gets its update

[azure wedge]

Like you said.... Priorities LOL

[safe bluff]

i wonder if that means im high priority

[azure wedge]

Who knows..?

[safe bluff]

one can only hope

[azure wedge]

Bob is the highest priority

[astral magnet]

why is his eye so small 💀

[potent otter]

Dark Deception

[azure wedge]

ALso fun fact ^ bob's AI uses the SAME AI script I made for Divversity.

[astral magnet]

oh god

[azure wedge]

He's that smart

[astral magnet]

does he like hiding in vents

[azure wedge]

He has a whole vision cone and stuff

[astral magnet]

oh wow

[potent otter]

Damn

[azure wedge]

They way he can see is actually based on a camera where it analyze to see if a player is withing it's view

And dw Xu... I've hella optimized the whole system before you say something...

[astral magnet]

LOL

[azure wedge]

This system allows the ai's to have multiple 'eyes'

In this case, one smoll one in the back and a big one at the front.

[safe bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[astral magnet]

Chaos about to create a system to simulate the sight of a biblically accurate angel

[azure wedge]

Oh trust. It is

[safe bluff]

you're gonna like the lore you lore goblin, me and rodrigo spent a long time coming up with stuff that wont be finished with just this update

[astral magnet]

No yeah I bet

||Rodigo led me to a lil smth smth about jimothy and I'm beyond stoked for that||

[safe bluff]

yeah i saw, he couldnt help himself, that yapper

[astral magnet]

i mean can i blame him

sounds like it's gonna be fire

[safe bluff]

i can, smh

[azure wedge]

It only renders a few pixels rather than an image, enough for the script to check if there's a player in sight or not, it stops rendering if it's behind obstacles or out of range, renders at 2 FPS only, 1 FPS if withing range and not hidden behind anything.

[safe bluff]

mmmmm

[azure wedge]

And I tested that with 200 bobs and the game was fine. So I think it's good enough for the game.

There won't be 200 enemies in my game at once so that's unlikely to happen too...

[safe bluff]

ill mod it and spawn 2000 enemies

be better

[azure wedge]

Your mod won't last long..

[safe bluff]

its okay, mods only break when the devs make consistent updates

[azure wedge]

You'll have to deal with my coding too.... LOL

It's okay my code will be very neat

[safe bluff]

il2cpp game incoming

still pisses me off schedule 1 is il2cpp

[azure wedge]

I do my game in il2cpp

[safe bluff]

dead to me

[azure wedge]

I'm kidding LOL

[safe bluff]

smh

i figured lol

for the clueless mu

il2cpp is like encrypting the game's code after release

so it makes it a lot lot harder to mod

[azure wedge]

Though I can still mod schedule 1 not a problem for me mehehe

[safe bluff]

cuz the source code gets sent to C++ land, rather than the initially developed C#

afaik anyway

yeah yeah

i aint learning C++

not anytime soon anyway

[astral magnet]

ic

[azure wedge]

I think there are tools with melon loader that lets you use c#. Not sure if that's true feel free to correct me.

[safe bluff]

i think bepinex 6 does too

[azure wedge]

Oh?

I'd have to look at it

[onyx horizon]

scp dialogue

[astral magnet]

LMFAO

[potent otter]

Fr

This dialogue is so ██████ and ████

[astral magnet]

when the ||[REDACTED]|| is ||[DATA EXPUNGED]||

[onyx horizon]

██████ good

[gusty eagle]

❌

[vestal ore]

You need higher clearance

[azure wedge]

if anyone would like to help me out a bit, I'd like a lil recap on all the issues Diversity has so I can speedrun them.

[lean ibex]

i can do a quick check through diversitynofloppy's changes since that was basically fixing the bugs in your absence

[azure wedge]

Sure thing c:

[lean ibex]

obviously the floppy reader was causing lag with some expensive function call, but there was another FindObjectsOfType call running even with it gone (i think looking for floppies in general?)
it does fix two different types of softlocks caused by walker doors, not 100% sure what was causing them (also there was an incorrect application of walker door materials or something)
and an NRE upon being fired?

obviously @polar briar would be better to tell you than me

he might know some that werent fixed as well

[light jasper]

For more direct bugs:

• Watcher does not have a hatch.
• Watcher hand can be seen on thin walls in vanilla and custom interiors. Reported by @gray leaf
• Some good amount of Floppy Discs just teleports on top of the ship
• Bracken flashlight dimmer do not work correctly.
• Bracken (with Personal Space active) Softlocks on clients
• (not confirmed 100%) Bracken Snatch compatibility does not work correctly
• Sometimes the eyes on the bracken personal space doesn't kill you. Reported by @gray leaf

[azure wedge]

Bet thank you

[lean ibex]

what about the flashlight dimmer doesn't work again?

i just got it to happen yesterday

[leaden slate]

it worked just fine in my 235 mods pack, are there any other mods causing issues or something?

[gray leaf]

another thing tho not that important is the ghost girl hallucination thing bugs when you kill her

it just makes the screen black forever

[light jasper]

I mean it works, but when transitioning from flashlight with full light to dimmer light when approaching the bracken it breaks and causes a flicker instead of the original behavior.

[gray leaf]

sometimes you can see the Watcher hand behind the wall if the vent spawns on a specific position

[light jasper]

oh, yeah

let me add that to the list

[gray leaf]

sometimes the eyes on the bracken personal space doesn't kill you

[lean ibex]

oh gotcha

i thought a little flicker was intended

[azure wedge]

I'm going to overhaul the flashlight behavior at this point. Make it better c:

[light jasper]

good!

[azure wedge]

Also going to put this as a note to myself:

Fixes to do:

• Walker Door (Tested)
• Floppy Reader (Tested)
• Watcher Vent (Tested)
• Watcher Hand (Tested)
• Floppies
• Floppies After Fired (Tested)
• Flashlight (Tested)
• The Bracken Space (Tested)
• Compatibility with Snatch (Untested)
• The 👀 (Tested)
• The Girl
• Centipede
• Walker Scan Node (Untested)
• UI for Door and Centipede (Tested)
• Blob (Untested)

Configs:

• Walker Door
• Watcher Spawn Logics
• Generation of the ||Walker's 'mind'||
• Threshold of the ||Odd Door||
• Toggle Floppy Stuff

Additions:

• ?

[light jasper]

Oh, I think I know what's the "?"

Hope to see it soon :]

[azure wedge]

Oh the ? is just a place holder, Not sure if I'mma add anything to this patch specifically.

[light jasper]

ooh, my bad

gotcha

I'm glad you're focusing on bug fixes :]

[azure wedge]

Okay so-

Watcher vent never got imported into the files...

Unity... I blame you.

[gray leaf]

this is what i mean with the ghost girl

tho i guess this is more of a compat issue since you cant kill the girl in vanilla

[azure wedge]

Yee compat issue. I'll look into it though

[gray leaf]

oh wait so this mod is the one that adds the odd door thingy

ive been asking myself which one was it

cause it only says this door is odd but nothing ever happens

[azure wedge]

Happy vent noises.

[light jasper]

yay

[polar briar]

Also I think the centipede revamp doesn't work.
Most of the critical bugs were due to the fact that you make a lot of assumptions about doors and most of the stuff is run in prefixes which breaks level loading, I would add a lot more null checks and move the logic to postfixes if it's possible, so everything would still work even in case of an error.

Watcher's hand behind the wall can be removed with a shader, if you don't know how yet

I think there was also a problem with how you access materials on some game objects. You should use MeshRenderer.sharedMaterial(s) property because otherwise you make copies of assets which breaks static batching and reduces performance if done frequently.

[azure wedge]

Oh yeah the centipede I need to check this buddy. And yeah those assumptions are my bad ;-;

[azure wedge]

Yeah that part of the code wasn't supposed to even come up into the final product.... I forgot to comment it LOL

[light jasper]

oh, yeah!
Forgot the centipede (it only happened to me once and I forgor)

[polar briar]

Also for the future, publishing the source project on GitHub would also be nice

[azure wedge]

Yeeee that I know how

[azure wedge]

I would. The only reason it's not is that some code in there is closed source as it's also being used into my own game...

[polar briar]

There was some material/texture swapping stuff with walker doors as well, if I remember correctly

[azure wedge]

Yeah that wasn't supposed to be in the final product at all

[polar briar]

choose a restrictive license

but it's your choice, no pressure 😇

[azure wedge]

Hmm I could yeah, well until I release my game that is

[azure wedge]

I mean I kinda have no choice if you ever plan to become a maintainer at one point.

This....

What a great recomendation right there

[safe bluff]

there was a time my auto complete thought i only wanted to write scripts that involved the game Zort

so everytime i'd write a new class

it'd be like

"Did you mean CRZortWeapon?"

[azure wedge]

LOL

[azure wedge]

I would probably need someone for some testing eventually...

[gusty eagle]

"Just making sure" ahh shotgun

[light jasper]

let us know :]

[azure wedge]

You got a modpack you want to try it on?

[light jasper]

yup :]

[azure wedge]

Bet I'll let you know when then

@light jasper Also might need some help with sound stuff too eventually..

[light jasper]

oh, sure, let me know what do you want

[gray leaf]

i would like to test too! if it is possible

[gray leaf]

XD im taking no chances

[azure wedge]

Bet!

[red bay]

I don't know but honestly it should be a bit stronger or maybe turn off your flashlight once (you can turn it on again then or maybe add a config to not be able to use flashlights near the Bracken?) because if I use the normal or pro flashlights the dimming is so weak that I don't even notice it half of the time and it manages to sneak up on me

I only really notice that it gets dimmer when I use the elite flashlight

[azure wedge]

@errant flume I have some good news.

The floppy reader is officially fixed.

[errant flume]

Oh?

Nice c;

[azure wedge]

@light jasper I shall be ready for some testing in a couple minutes

[light jasper]

oh, sure!

[azure wedge]

We're ready for some testing. Are you in my server on Discord?

[gray leaf]

oh no im not sorry i didnt knew there was one

but im doing smth else rn so i couldnt help yall

[azure wedge]

Ahh gotcha alrighty

[fringe magnet]

I can help if needed, I have no idea about coding but I could try to test stuff by playing and reporting bugs. The thing that didnt work well for me was the performance in diversity, I have a very beefy pc and it still dropped hard specially when the ghost girl chased me, made no sense

[astral magnet]

If you're still looking into issues

I remember when I was trying to hunt floppy discs down that you'd lose them upon getting fired

This'd include the one you start off with on the ship

[azure wedge]

Ohh yeah that one too...

So many issues ;-;

[astral magnet]

Any discs you lose on firing wouldn't return to their original positions until you got fired again

Another random minor detail thing but isolation effects should probably hide items too

I remember seeing ||the walker hallucination|| once and could still see my friend's shovel and holstered reserved slot items

||I think it was the same deal with the ghost girl's one||

also what's this about "the 👀" lol

[azure wedge]

In the personal space of the bracken lol

[astral magnet]

ahh okay

[potent otter]

I thought it was the watcher

[azure wedge]

;-;

[astral magnet]

I assume that's an oversight that'd be pretty easy to fix

[azure wedge]

I fixed it actually

[astral magnet]

Oh shit

sweet

[azure wedge]

I did some texting with moroxide

With his pack

[astral magnet]

now I can be TRULY isolated by the horrors beyond comprehension YIPPEE

[azure wedge]

Bracken space works now...

[astral magnet]

Even better! :D

Oh yeah you don't have anything hygrodere-related in that list

[azure wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/izumi-parasite-manga-anime-mad-gif-21341361

[azure wedge]

Dammit...

[astral magnet]

I remember seeing here hygroderes could pick up babies

and go NYOOM with them

Probs another easy fix

Since the baby is technically a scrap internally

Shouldn't be too difficult to just tell hygroderes to ignore them when picking shit up

[astral magnet]

wait this is fully yeah?

||You tested the ominous radar message too right?||

[azure wedge]

I'm going to crash out

[astral magnet]

||Yeaaaaah that was host-only as well||

[azure wedge]

Oh

Might be fixed actually

[astral magnet]

||Maybe it was for the same reason as the rest of the bracken space yeah||

[azure wedge]

I need to verify it with someone though

[astral magnet]

Would gladly help if I was available, which unfortunately I am not :(

[azure wedge]

It's okay

[astral magnet]

and i assume regarding "the girl" that includes optimising her hallucination right? I remember hearing about that being kinda framey

[azure wedge]

I have to look into it too....

Blob fix is done

[astral magnet]

🎉

no more motherly hygroderes

||unless maybe in the lore they once were who fuckin knows wouldn't put it past diversity||

||God being turned into a hygrodere must suck||

[errant flume]

The thing is it wasn't framey unless the bug where you could see items from other players being near you was happening, if you were isolated no lag, but the lag would happen when around other players

[astral magnet]

Wait what

[errant flume]

Yeah

[astral magnet]

Oh so preventing items from being visible while isolated should fix it then

[errant flume]

Something to do with the players not fully going invisible and the items still registering floating and moving around might have caused it

[astral magnet]

Lovely

[errant flume]

Although no lag happens when you experience that from the Walker hallucinations so idk

[astral magnet]

Maybe the walker one's different

[errant flume]

Prolly

[astral magnet]

Or there's smth different about how the girl does it

[azure wedge]

They both are the same... I have to really look into it...

[astral magnet]

so maybe it is the shader/pass/whatever

no clue

Because I know they use different passes(?)

[azure wedge]

Probably I have no clue yet

[astral magnet]

Ah yeah smth else minor that idm waiting extra on a fix for because it'd guaranteed require a bunch of extra code

Speaker's voicelines aren't synced

He can pipe up on one end but not on another, say a different line on different clients etc.

Something like that I feel everyone should hear the same thing the same way at the same time

[azure wedge]

Yeah That was the time where diversity didn't have any networking done and syncing was literally unknown to me lol

[astral magnet]

oh damn

Fair enough

[azure wedge]

I could implement syncing though.

[astral magnet]

Might be worth double-checking syncing on the ghost girl's lines as well since other players can hear her if they're close enough to a hauntee with an active walkie

Or just. not let other players hear the ghost girl off someone else's walkie unless a mod specifically for that is installed

[azure wedge]

It's not complicated to add syncing really

[astral magnet]

Actually on another WAY more minor note (esp because there's probably a way better, mindscrewier way of handling this situation) ||you're able to use walkies in the stairs with zero repercussions atp||

||Like. if you happen to have a walkie on you when you're brought to the stairs you can use it and communicate with your team like nothing's wrong||

[azure wedge]

I'm make it f*cking explode-

Jk LMAO

[astral magnet]

lmfao

[azure wedge]

POV: the dev crashed out

[astral magnet]

||Nah making it explode is too easy, in the meantime just having walkie comms not work going into or out of the stairs (but otherwise pretend that it does but you'd get no response) should be fine||

||Though there was smth I thought of that'd be a lil more evil than just. no comms in or out of stairs||

||But it'd take a lot more time to implement||

||What if outgoing comms from the stairs worked fine, but it'd sound all distant and staticky and stuff||

||But ingoing comms would vary based on how much you tried to communicate outwards||

||Before you started trying to radio out it'd be BEYOND unintelligible though maybe you'd recognise your team's voice in bits||

||When you do start trying to radio out anything your team tries to say becomes less intelligible/more staticky/spookier/turns into just straightup the walker intercepting that shit to fuck with you||

[azure wedge]

I'll see what I'll do about it

Chaos sadly isn't in his prime anymore

[astral magnet]

Fair enough

[azure wedge]

So if I understood correct, after the first time being fired no floppies shows up in the ship right?

[astral magnet]

Mhm

And anything else you gathered disappears from where you originally found them too

[azure wedge]

Last thing I'm fixing tonight then I relax

https://tenor.com/view/heartcatch-precure-cure-marine-blush-melting-melt-gif-20290561

[astral magnet]

Hopefully not too big a deal to fix then

[azure wedge]

Well... I need to find the reason on how this happens. Gets destroyed but still spawned ;-;

[astral magnet]

how even

[polar briar]

I know there's already quite a lot of requests, but making the whole floppy disk/reader storyline thing removable with a config would be awesome as well.

[azure wedge]

Yeah planning to add that too c:

[narrow echo]

its a cool feature but my friends are just not into it lol

id enable it for solo, same as the speaker guy, but when its in a larger pack with friends im mostly looking for the walker watcher and bracken room + flashlight flicker

[potent otter]

For the gameplay aspect than for lore and audio replacements
I rather that too in solo and multi

[gusty eagle]

U can't even get one of them in solo 🤑

[narrow echo]

oh..

[astral magnet]

Yeah, unfortunately ||the ghost girl's floppy disc drops when someone dies to it so you'd either need a multiple lives mod or another player to get it||

||When I was hunting the discs it was as a duo so one of us could actually do the hunting the other could make quota/maybe find the enemies that drop them (though we never managed to get a single one of the enemy discs together unfortunately)||

||Was also helpful because if one of us died it wouldn't be as big a deal||

||(though most of the reason i was part of a duo for that was because he was the only other person i could play with at the time LMAO)||

||The other enemy discs would be pretty gnarly solo as well since three of them you have to survive the enemy-specific areas and ASSUMING THE INTEL OF A WATCHER DISC THAT I GOT WAS ACCURATE you'd need to gamble your life on whacking the fucker for a chance of getting it||

||Y'know speaking of which I think I fire up the game to verify that||

[astral magnet]

||If I can fucking find him||

||I'm having trouble getting him to spawn||

||I set his weight to 100 and was having a really rough time getting him to spawn for some reason, I've set him back to his default in case it helps||

||Yup find him almost immediately, is his spawning logic bugged with 100 weight maybe? 🤔||

||There's a chance he has weird behaviour around the mineshaft tunnel vents because i'm having trouble finding him again after whacking him once||

||yea i'm gonna try and reroll for mansion he seems to like mansion better||

||Yup, intel was real, watcher disc exists||

||Spawned half-wedged into the vent after chasing him around and whacking him a bunch in imperium||

||I get the feeling a pattern's forming with these 🤔||

||I've noticed diversity seems to have been treating all their subjects differently, and at least in the bracken's and watcher's case that might've played into what they are now||

||anyway i'm literally (for real this time) only missing the sus door disc now I'll go for that when I can actually feasibly get in there||

[azure wedge]

c:

[azure wedge]

||What about the golden disk from the ship though? c:||

[astral magnet]

||I mean that one goes without saying, I'm not gonna be able to load that until I get the sus door disc anyway so it doesn't count||

||I can assume what's on there tho||

[azure wedge]

Definitely a beautiful picture of me. Definitely...

[astral magnet]

LMAO

[azure wedge]

So what's your guess?

[astral magnet]

||When looking at logs I notice a disc labelled "Never Stopping" getting registered||

||Every other disc in that list that gets registered seems to correspond with the others you find outdoors/through enemies so I can assume that's the ship one||

||so it probs plays that song you made||

||maybe a cheaty way to guess but still||

[long girder]

there was also that lighting issue after being taken to the stairs I think me and someone else here was having

if it's not been mentioned already

here

[astral magnet]

I think it's come up yeah

Hopefully fixed in the coming update

[errant flume]

Mu you're bald

[potent otter]

[astral magnet]

bruh

[errant flume]

Not my fault you flooded the thread with spoilered text

lol

[potent otter]

not my fault either that you turned the thread into SCP classified logs

[astral magnet]

idk maybe i like being redacted

lmao

[azure wedge]

Bald mu

||REDACTED|| mu

[astral magnet]

lmfao

[azure wedge]

Recieved this today c:

[astral magnet]

Lot of very pretty dice

[crude dirge]

It looks pretty ||[REDACTED||

Seriously that’s actually quite cool though-

[astral magnet]

LMAO

Why would the dice be ||[REDACTED]|| though I don't see how they'd be relevant to diversity lore

[crude dirge]

That’s confidential. Sorry.

[astral magnet]

gdi i'm being GATEKEPT

[potent otter]

Cool

[potent otter]

Thanks to SCP foundation

[astral magnet]

||Diversity does also deal in anomalies canonically i think though their end goal was way different||

[azure wedge]

90% of the issues should be fixed at the moment for Diversity.

[errant flume]

If you get the new Beta out before tomorrow maybe we could try it tomorrow and you can join us

since we'll be playing with my redone pack tomorrow

lol

But that's just being hopeful

lol

[azure wedge]

Probably yeah

[pallid ermine]

Does this by chance include a fix for certain modded moons softlocking with it enabled?

[astral magnet]

Should

Don't see why it wouldn't

[light jasper]

would be good to know what moons softlocks with the mods to test it when it publishes

[astral magnet]

It was mazon that we discovered the bug on so you should be able to test it there

from moons of otherworldly oddity

[pallid ermine]

I can't remember all of them, but I do know Eve-M is one of them

[lapis pawn]

perhaps tonys moons

i have a lot of soft lock issues with those in particular

[astral magnet]

If tony's did weird stuff with doors then maybe

It was a thing with this mod's sus doors, if it ran into a weirdly-built door it'd explode and softlock on lever pull

But I'm not familiar with tony's moons so

[pallid ermine]

I can post a full list of the moons I have later, but it will take time to load them all cause there's like 40 or so

[pallid ermine]

doing this now but it may take a while, moons seem to take longer to load with diversity on. Hopefully I can get through all of them within a reasonable time

[astral magnet]

It's because ||there's another dungeon generating to do with a pretty niche mechanic||

||that i haven't been able to get into yet :D||

||There'll be configs to make that easier to get into in the coming update||

[pallid ermine]

I'm aware of it, but no idea how you're meant to get in. But seriously... that needs a toggle lol. It really messes with the load times, like, really bad

some of my tests as of now have almost hit a minute to load

[lapis pawn]

i had long ass moon loading times since forever

[gray leaf]

Same

Im used to wait ≈1 minute to play sometimes

[lapis pawn]

i think its because the game keeps having to regenerate every scrap item,interior,hazard and enemy from scratch?

[gray leaf]

Not from scratch but the moons reset everytime you go in there

Theres a mod now tho that changes that

Forgot the name

[lapis pawn]

i am not sure if it caches anything

thats what i mean

[pallid ermine]

My load times are usually short, with my modpack it's about 10-20s so it is a little longer but that's to be expected with 160+ mods. Diversity though, singlehandedly doubles-triples that load time, i dunno

[gray leaf]

Weird

[pallid ermine]

I'm still doing this by the way... an hour later, and still have several moons to check

[astral magnet]

||You have to have high enough insanity while a walker's present in the interior||

||Then the odd-looking door that appears sometimes will bring you there||

||A whole pile of rng and atp the required insanity is kinda high so||

||hence why i haven't gotten in yet||

[lapis pawn]

||is it related to text on random doors?||

[astral magnet]

||Yeah||

||It's the doors that're labelled "This door looks odd..." that bring you there when the requirements are somehow met||

[lapis pawn]

||i never even seen a single enemy from this mod lmao||

[astral magnet]

||Yeah the walker and watcher are kinda rare by default||

||esp in the walker's case because he likes to be relatively hidden||

[pallid ermine]

man that's really smelly

[astral magnet]

||so is the watcher technically but that's borked||

[pallid ermine]

i was wonderin what that was about and couldnt figure it out and just kinda gave up on it lol

[lapis pawn]

||also wiki part of the diversity page kinda sucks||

||so idk what they do at all||

[pallid ermine]

what the ||walker?||

[astral magnet]

Yeah it's kinda out-of-date

[lapis pawn]

very much so

[astral magnet]

I've expressed interest in trying to rewrite it but haven't gotten around to that just yet

[lapis pawn]

i didnt even know a thing for centepedes was added

i found my own way to counterplay them tho

[astral magnet]

yea fair

[lapis pawn]

by using lethal hands

because since i have LGU they are just perma stuck on my head

[astral magnet]

Fair enough

I'm pre sure the snare flea stuff is kinda brokey anyway

[pallid ermine]

good goodly lord

[pallid ermine]

2 hours...

anyways here's the results

yes i wrote this in GD, sue me

so thankfully only 2 moons here are messing up, I did notice Eve-M somehow loaded once successfully, so that one's a mystery to me

maybe it's a certain weather, i dunno

[pallid ermine]

oh i forgot some important details, for one this is with my 160+ modpack so without all these mods I'd say there'd be about 8-15s less to load probably, depending on the moon. I also have Loadstone downloaded

not sure if there's anything else I have that effects load time

[gray leaf]

thats weird tho, i have some of these moons too and im not getting that much load time

[pallid ermine]

as mentioned, I have a 160+ modpack here so the load time's are already increased by around 8-15s or so. Diversity alone about doubles the load time for me

[gray leaf]

still weird

[lean ibex]

do you have bepinex faster load assetbundles patcher

[pallid ermine]

yes

[lean ibex]

ah

then it really shouldnt be doing that

[gray leaf]

yeah

[pallid ermine]

not sure which ones of yours mess with the moons though

numbers aren't everything so it could be a variety of things

[lean ibex]

they put out an update a bit ago that allows it to work with diversity

[gray leaf]

yeah but that would mean that it is more of a compat issue

[pallid ermine]

not really, diversity itself is already bloating the load time, it's just worse if other mods are also making things take a little longer to load

[gray leaf]

so you are having this problem even with diversity alone?

[pallid ermine]

I don't really know at this point, I mean it's hard to say with so many mods

yes? Like, it's literally just that diversity has to ||generate a second dungeon on every moon||

[lapis pawn]

thats short lol

[gray leaf]

i love the effort you put on making this tho

[pallid ermine]

what's short

[lapis pawn]

load times

for me its always 2+ minutes

[pallid ermine]

uh

[lapis pawn]

if it doesnt soft lock

which it does sometimes

[pallid ermine]

are you running like a mega modpack or smth

I've never had a load time that bad

[lapis pawn]

231 mods

[pallid ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/creepypasta-pasta-creepy-gif-25082626

that probably explains it

[near blaze]

do you have any log files when softlock happens?

[pallid ermine]

Nothing that I could find of interest

the logs get spammed a lot when loading moons so it's hard to tell which error(s) are related

I can check again though

[near blaze]

can you send modpack code, so i could see mods overview

[lean ibex]

yeah, it would be nice if the walker dungeon could be turned off

though chaos said they would look into making it async to a certain degree

[pallid ermine]

I would if it was just a regular modpack but it's an unreleased project I'd rather not share yet

[20:03:35.6196996] [Error  : Unity Log] Can't destroy Transform component of 'ScrapIconMap(Clone)'. If you want to destroy the game object, please call 'Destroy' on the game object instead. Destroying the transform component is not allowed.
[20:03:35.6216983] [Error  : Unity Log] Can't destroy Transform component of 'ScrapIconMap(Clone)'. If you want to destroy the game object, please call 'Destroy' on the game object instead. Destroying the transform component is not allowed.
[20:03:35.7590034] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
DiversityRemastered.DiversityManager+<>c.<SetupRound>b__62_0 (DoorLock x) (at C:/Users/frien/source/repos/Diversity Remastered/Diversity Remastered/DiversityManager.cs:317)
System.Linq.Enumerable+WhereArrayIterator`1[TSource].ToArray () (at <dab7f68612224ba3ae40f651d44f9d4c>:IL_0022)
System.Linq.Enumerable.ToArray[TSource] (System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[T] source) (at <dab7f68612224ba3ae40f651d44f9d4c>:IL_001F)
DiversityRemastered.DiversityManager.SetupRound () (at C:/Users/frien/source/repos/Diversity Remastered/Diversity Remastered/DiversityManager.cs:317)
DiversityRemastered.Patches.RoundManagerPatch.FinishGeneratingNewLevelClientRpc (RoundManager __instance) (at C:/Users/frien/source/repos/Diversity Remastered/Diversity Remastered/Patches/RoundManagerPatch.cs:69)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::FinishGeneratingNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__131.DMD<RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__131::MoveNext>(RoundManager/<LoadNewLevelWait>d__131)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

This is what I got when loading Maritopia

[patent minnow]

I'm also getting that

Stack trace:
DiversityRemastered.DiversityManager+<>c.<SetupRound>b__62_0 (DoorLock x) (at C:/Users/frien/source/repos/Diversity Remastered/Diversity Remastered/DiversityManager.cs:317)
System.Linq.Enumerable+WhereArrayIterator`1[TSource].ToArray () (at <dab7f68612224ba3ae40f651d44f9d4c>:IL_0022)
System.Linq.Enumerable.ToArray[TSource] (System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[T] source) (at <dab7f68612224ba3ae40f651d44f9d4c>:IL_001F)
DiversityRemastered.DiversityManager.SetupRound () (at C:/Users/frien/source/repos/Diversity Remastered/Diversity Remastered/DiversityManager.cs:317)
DiversityRemastered.Patches.RoundManagerPatch.FinishGeneratingNewLevelClientRpc (RoundManager __instance) (at C:/Users/frien/source/repos/Diversity Remastered/Diversity Remastered/Patches/RoundManagerPatch.cs:69)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::FinishGeneratingNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager)
RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__131.MoveNext () (at <bdf6a080e98a49fd84b92b24894f768c>:IL_0342)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)```

[pallid ermine]

so it's a consistent issue, that's at least good to know

[near blaze]

from the Diversity code.

Looks like you have a mod that adds custom doors

[pallid ermine]

hmmm

[near blaze]

and diversity doesn't expect that

[pallid ermine]

maybe it's not Maritopia but the interior?

[near blaze]

custom doors that interior adds

[pallid ermine]

if this was also Maritopia, what interior did you have on it?

[patent minnow]

it wasn't, mine was adamance

[pallid ermine]

oh wow

must be the doors then

[patent minnow]

is the interior logged on the console?

[pallid ermine]

in my case I have Maritopia always set to generate LC Office, I think that one has custom doors so that might be it

[near blaze]

LLL should log it

[pallid ermine]

uhhh

[near blaze]

"Created day history..."

[patent minnow]

let me try again

but strangely, I have played with this modpack before, and haven't had any issues till today

but it was ~1month ago, so mods have updated

I do have LC Office though...