Diversity

[keen light]

forgot biodiversity not diversity

[astral magnet]

it's fine

[light jasper]

@muted dove sorry for ping, just to be sure.
what's the difference between your Floppy Disc disabler on your ScienceBird Tweaks mod and the DiversityNoFloppy by Voxx?
(in case of wondering, I mean this one https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/v0xx/DiversityNoFloppy/)

[muted dove]

the floppy disk disabler part should be effectively the same, only differences are my mod doesnt require diversity as a dependency and DiversityNoFloppy also fixes some issues with the walker on certain custom moons.

so, go with DiversityNoFloppy if you have the choice between the two, I just have that feature bundled into my tweaks out of convenience (and because DiversityNoFloppy didnt exist when I started making it lol)

[light jasper]

gotcha, I was asking that cuz I wanted to install your tweaks mod, but I don't know if it could conflict or smth

[muted dove]

I ran a test with both my tweaks and floppydisdisabler so I dont think they conflict with each other either

[polar briar]

they won't, the intersecting part are just prefix patches that shouldn't conflict

[light jasper]

gotcha, I wanted to be sure ^^"

[desert sphinx]

Btw diversity seems to be making the version on the main menu show as v5 for some people, no clue why tho 😂

1. #help-and-troubleshooting message
2. #help-and-troubleshooting message

[somber shale]

what bugs are there currently?

[lean ibex]

don't know all of them, but i do know watcher has a glitch disabling the vent cover where it spawns (for custom interiors at least)

of course theres also the performance drop from the floppy disk reader but that can just be removed by DiversityNoFloppy

[astral magnet]

bracken personal space is still broken the same way it was pre-rewrite

where clients can't be taken and get softlocked until the bracken dies/the round ends

[lean ibex]

i usually have bracken personal space turned off so i guess i never noticed it

[astral magnet]

Some custom moons/interiors will cause softlocks with the sus doors the walker has, diversitynofloppy has a fix for that included

I think there's some bugs with the snare flea rework also but not 100% on that

[errant flume]

There is

[lean ibex]

what's the bug with snare flea

[astral magnet]

I think the snare flea just kinda. failed to block client vision/do anything to it? I'm not sure I wasn't the one who got snare flea'd

[muted dove]

there's also been some issues with people getting stuck in the ship upon landing (mostly a mod incompatibility issue), I can confirm these aren't fixed by diversitynofloppy

I've just stopped using diversity for the time being, the only thing I really want is the snare flea rework and even that has stopped working 😭

[thorny owl]

Seeing this error pop up from time to time. It's not consistant which is making it really hard to diagnose. Anyone know what's up? fix [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object Stack trace: DiversityRemastered.DiversityManager+<>c.<SetupRound>b__62_0 (DoorLock x) (at C:/Users/frien/source/repos/Diversity Remastered/Diversity Remastered/DiversityManager.cs:317) System.Linq.Enumerable+WhereArrayIterator`1[TSource].ToArray () (at <dab7f68612224ba3ae40f651d44f9d4c>:IL_0022) System.Linq.Enumerable.ToArray[TSource] (System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[T] source) (at <dab7f68612224ba3ae40f651d44f9d4c>:IL_001F) (wrapper dynamic-method) DiversityRemastered.DiversityManager.DMD<DiversityRemastered.DiversityManager::SetupRound>() DiversityRemastered.Patches.RoundManagerPatch.FinishGeneratingNewLevelClientRpc (RoundManager __instance) (at C:/Users/frien/source/repos/Diversity Remastered/Diversity Remastered/Patches/RoundManagerPatch.cs:69) (wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::FinishGeneratingNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager) RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__131.MoveNext () (at <bdf6a080e98a49fd84b92b24894f768c>:IL_0342) UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

[muted dove]

is this happening along with you getting stuck in the ship when landing?

[thorny owl]

Yes

[muted dove]

do you have the LC_Office interior installed?

[thorny owl]

Yes

[muted dove]

in my testing there seems to be an (occasional) incompatibility with diversity and lc_office, yeah

only when office interior generates

[thorny owl]

That's cool

[leaden slate]

I like the bracken anger when pulling the apparatus too tbh

[muted dove]

yeah the bracken rework is also great, the personal space is also awesome (when it works)

[leaden slate]

Never been a fan of the personal space but I like the rest

A big issue I have had is that even just being in orbit solo diversity makes me have 50fps less wich is kinda weird and insane

And the crazy thing is DiversityNoFloppy cuts my fps in half again wich makes even less sense

Simply adding diversity + the floppy mod reduces my fps from 170ish down to around 75

[azure wedge]

I read a little bit but have they posted any logs?

[desert sphinx]

don't believe so

[azure wedge]

I can't really help without any logs...

[errant flume]

@azure wedge 🤔

[errant flume]

@polar briar Is this another thing that could be fixed with your patch?

[azure wedge]

That's not an issue. Just a script I forgot to remove in a child. Won't cause any harm.

[errant flume]

Btw just a bit of a report but

Your mod breaks in lan

The speaker lines won't play when creating a lobby and a 2nd client could never connect

[red bay]

hi, the mod seems to be breaking Mazon and the ship is stuck in the loading phase forever

both mods on the latest version

[polar briar]

you need this patch https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/v0xx/DiversityNoFloppy/

[red bay]

thanks

[red bay]

I have downloaded it but now it's broken on Rorm
edit: most of the time it works, but occasionally it is broken for some reason

[desert meteor]

I realy like this mod but it makes my friends game lag way more

-# Hes on mac via crossover so not a very good pc :\

and idk wtf its called but the weird monster that makes my screen glitch is fucking terrifying bruh I hate it and love it at the same time

[astral magnet]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/v0xx/DiversityNoFloppy/ This should help a bit with the lag

It's mostly just the floppy reader that causes the mod's performance issues

[desert meteor]

tysm ill try

[astral magnet]

walker, and yeah lmao

[leaden slate]

tbh for me the noFloppy mod makes my game performance so much worse

never figured out why

it literally cuts my fps in half

[marble summit]

Walkler

[astral magnet]

walkler.

[cedar patio]

did you install it on a save that didn't have it originally? thatdid it for me

I had to uninstall diversity and reinstall them both together at the same time after the save saved without diversity

[leaden slate]

mh i cant remember tbh

i can try that tho later

[cedar patio]

yee also lethalsponge helped a lot withmy frames

[light jasper]

I love the Walkler

[cedar patio]

Is there a way to have the walker work on custom moons? I was having big errors and I read it was his interactions with doors on custom moons/interiors so I disabled him and it fixed it.

[astral magnet]

Diversitynofloppy should fix the big thing with custom moons but if it doesn't then idk

if you already have it then i'm not sure

[cedar patio]

I haven't tried the walker since installing nofloppy, didn't realize it also fixed that

[astral magnet]

yeah, it comes bundled with that fix too

[cedar patio]

Thank you for letting me know!

[opaque wind]

what does the floppy reader even do?

[lean ibex]

it was supposed to be that enemies would drop floppy disks

and it would be little lore pieces or something

but i never got any monster to drop a floppy

[opaque wind]

aw

[polar briar]

they do drop, but it's bugged and most of the time they appear in the middle of the ship instead

[opaque wind]

ah dang, that's stanky

I guess i'll get no floppy in that case

[astral magnet]

There's a few you can find just sitting outside on a few vanilla moons but yeah a few you'd have to get from monsters

The enemy drops were only from very specific circumstances, to my knowledge ||getting killed by a ghost girl would drop one||, ||one is guaranteed at the end of the bracken's personal space||, ||one can randomly show up in the walker stairs|| and ||i think there's one that requires the walker and its sus door to do its rare extremely niche thing i haven't gotten to happen for you to find it||

the moon ones were on ||experimentation, vow, adamance, dine and artifice|| iirc

The moon ones are the easy ones imo 💀

Apparently if you manage to get all of them the one you start with on the ship starts working

I have an inkling as to what might be on it but I haven't gotten it to work ingame yet since ||I don't want to pull the last one I'd need out of the void via imperium until I've experienced the sus door thing||

[astral magnet]

and yeah the floppies have always been kinda jank even setting aside the performance issues the floppy reader had

When I was seriously trying to hunt them we had an issue where they wouldn't stick after firing (and would disappear from their usual spots as well) (this includes the initial one) and only be findable again after getting fired again

[astral magnet]

One of these days

[crude dirge]

What does ||the odd door|| do anyway? I haven’t seen it do anything at all yet.

[muted dove]

iirc it's something to do with ||the walker or its spawning||, not sure if it's fully/properly implemented

[astral magnet]

||ALLEGEDLY if you're insane enough with a walker active and getting the relevant hallucinations often enough the tooltip will change and trying to go through will take you somewhere new?||

||somewhere other than the stairs that is||

||The required amount of insanity must be STUPIDLY high though because well. i've never seen that shit||

||The door is also where you'll be teleported to when leaving the stairs but that's not the big thing||

||This is allegedly of course information is extremely scarce to nonexistent on this mechanic (to the point i could well be getting played by someone) and i'm only saying what i've heard, which could be VERY wrong||

[crude dirge]

Thanks!

[astral magnet]

np

Maybe you'll be able to see this shit ingame before I do 💀

[crude dirge]

I doubt it, my sanity never decreases because I have one friend which never goes alone and he usually ends up following me.

[astral magnet]

fair enough

[crude dirge]

It’s always a nice little reminder of peace and quiet whenever I hear ambient sounds :>

[astral magnet]

Though that's assuming the mechanic runs off vanilla insanity but it's hard to say

yeah

I think I got potentially close to triggering it last night but got fucked over because the walker was primed to take me to the stairs and I wasn't aware

[crude dirge]

Does the walker have his own sanity system? I’d assume it’s based on how long he’s been targeting you since he’s caught me twice without sending me to the stairs and I’ve been fine whenever walking through the ||suspicious doors||

[astral magnet]

No clue

[crude dirge]

I’m just going to say it’s based on vanilla insanity because I’m not bothered to think otherwise

[astral magnet]

||It's typically a set number of times he has to touch people before he's primed to take someone to the stairs, whatever you have that set to in config he'll touch people that many times then his next target after that he'll zero in on them for the stairs||

||I wouldn't be surprised if getting touched is a decently chonky dent to insanity that could aid that||

||I assume it runs off vanilla insanity because I've gotten the relevant hallucinations before ever seeing the walker/being told it's about||

||But I could be wrong||

[astral magnet]

||A curiosity I noticed with how that works is that typically you're able to intercept the walker before he's ready to send someone to the stairs and that counts as a touch+makes him disappear||

[crude dirge]

||My friend has had the hallucinations while following me around, he had been caught by the walker too. If getting caught does decrease sanity then you’re probably right.||

[astral magnet]

||When he's trying to bring someone there he will harmlessly phase through and ignore anyone he isn't targeting||

||+ he'll be noticeably and audibly faster if you're a non-target||

[crude dirge]

||So if he touches a player but he isn’t ready to bring them to the stairs does it increase the “touch meter” with a lack of better wording for the player that intervened?||

[astral magnet]

||The touch meter is global across everyone but yes||

[crude dirge]

||Oh interesting||

||You learn something everyday||

[astral magnet]

||The entire rest of your crew could be touched and if it targeted you next you'd go to the stairs even if you had no reason to be aware of the walker's presence||

||assuming default config of 3 and vanilla max crew size||

[crude dirge]

||That’s terrifying.||

[astral magnet]

kinda lmal

[crude dirge]

||I had it as 2 since I figured it was per player but I might increase it to 3 to make it more balanced. Usually though once someone finds the walker they just go back to the ship||

||If they’re it’s target atleast||

[astral magnet]

||Understandable, though from what I've noticed it seems to roll a new target every time it reappears||

[crude dirge]

||Oh good. That makes it quite balanced with larger crew sizes then.||

[astral magnet]

||Idk if that's based on anything, I think I heard it prefers targeting the sanest player?||

||could be wrong||

[crude dirge]

||Everybody in my group avoids it like the plague and just goes to a different entrance instead whenever they find it so atleast it’s successful in scaring them.||

My grammar is really crap today

[astral magnet]

||Understandable lmfao||

[crude dirge]

||Im not going to say I’m any different||

[astral magnet]

||I tend to see it as completely harmless not even an issue until I know it's primed, but that doesn't stop me from getting a heart attack every time I accidentally crash into one at mach 15 while it's on me||

[crude dirge]

||You are right to be fair. Probably can tell some people in my group that it’s harmless until it catches you a few times. I don’t think I’ve told any of them that yet so they just nope out as soon as they see it.||

[astral magnet]

||fair enough LMAO||

[crude dirge]

||Theyll continue doing that anyway but hopefully that means the walker will get a bit more screen time each session.||

[astral magnet]

yeah lmfoa

[crude dirge]

Thank you for the information about the walker though.

[astral magnet]

np

[crude dirge]

There’s not much about it online so I pretty much just thought he caught you twice and then sent you to the stairs the third time

[astral magnet]

Yeah, info's pretty scarce

on a lot of stuff the mod has

[crude dirge]

ChatGPT ahh message

[astral magnet]

lmfao

[crude dirge]

That couldn’t be more true. I saw someone once mentioned some corpse you can find outside or something to do with diversity and I haven’t seen it a single time nor seen it in the config.

I’m sure 90% of the mod is just not listed on the readme

[astral magnet]

That's to do with the outdoor floppy discs

Almost all of them have a corpse not too far away

[crude dirge]

Oh I see

[astral magnet]

||It's just the one on artifice that doesn't||

[crude dirge]

I play with DiversityNoFloppy so that checks out

[astral magnet]

Yeah i assume diversitynofloppy doesn't get rid of the corpses

[crude dirge]

Then I’m tone deaf or something because I have never seen one

[astral magnet]

or are basically right next to them

[crude dirge]

Glad previous employees are recording floppy disks before dying on the ground for the protagonist to continue the story

[astral magnet]

||You can try going left from one of the bridges on the way to main on vow into the lil grassy area if you want to see one of the corpses||

[crude dirge]

I’ll try it later and see

[astral magnet]

||Ik that's where I found one of the outdoor floppy discs||

[crude dirge]

Saying ||lil grassy area sounds super disrespectful when someone died there and I shouldn’t find it funny||

[astral magnet]

||Or in the shack on adamance where you find the name of artifice in vanilla||

||That one might be a lil more obvious||

[crude dirge]

WAIT LOL

||I have a friend that is obsessed with calling it his “home” and always goes in there whenever he has a key. He hasn’t joined in a short bit and not when we had diversity enabled but he’s in for a shocker||

[astral magnet]

LMFAO

oh that'll be hilarious

[astral magnet]

Yeah I just checked diversitynofloppy's source and see no mention of the corpses, and looking at diversity's source on thunderstore the corpses seem to be spawned in independently of the disks so that'll be fun

[opaque wind]

LMAO I've had that happen so many times recently

I've been playing solo a lot so the dude is kind of always there if I stay somewhere long enough

[opaque wind]

WAIT WHAT IS THE EXPERIMENTATION CORPSE I FOUND FROM THIS???

[astral magnet]

Yup

Like I said earlier the corpses are usually near/right beside every outdoor floppy disc ||except the one on artifice||

But with diversitynofloppy they're just kinda there

Iirc in the experimentation one's case ||that corpse is bisected and the disc would normally be found by the other half of that corpse on some of the catwalks above it||

[opaque wind]

Interesting!

[opaque wind]

||corpsey||

it would honestly be really helpful if floppies had a scan node lol

[light jasper]

afaik they have

[opaque wind]

hmm weird

I spent a whole day tryina find the floppy and nothing

[astral magnet]

||Yeah, like I said the floppy's near the other half of that body up above||

||on those catwalks you can see the shadow of on your screen||

||again assuming diversitynofloppy isn't installed||

[opaque wind]

OOH ||ABOVE?||

thats where I was gonna look last LOL

it makes sense thinking about it

||they don't got scan nodes btw @light jasper ||

[light jasper]

oooh

ok, my bad lol

[red bay]

any idea why Diversity keeps breaking moons even with the floppy removing mod installed?

[muted dove]

are you getting stuck inside the ship on landing? if you're using LC_Office, check if that interior is generating, that's something which I've found to cause it occasionally

[red bay]

ah

that would make sense

it happens on moons where Office can generate

though it seems it only breaks Rorm and Acidir every time the Office generates there, while other moons are fine with the Office generating

but that means I don't have to remove it entirely at least

[muted dove]

yeah it's definitely inconsistent, no idea what exactly is causing it either, since it still happens even if the Walker is disabled. only solution I found is just to remove one of the two mods

[polar briar]

It's because even if the walker is disabled it still does everything for its spawning, and skips it at the very end. I know why this happens, I will add a fix later.

[polar briar]

i couldn't reproduce this with lc office on mentioned moons, but it should be fixed in the new version of the patch

[red bay]

okay

[azure wedge]

Going to start migrating my projects on my other PC and work on some stuff soon.

[red bay]

nice

[opaque wind]

HELL YEAAAH

[orchid meadow]

Hello! I'm experiencing an issue with the ||Walker||
Upon making contact with the player and ||sending the player to the Stairs||, the cutscene plays as normal but when it ends I am stuck with the camera static overlay despite being able to move and interact with things. Moreover, the contact amount config doesn't seem to be applying properly as I have set it to 2 but the ||Walker|| still needs the default 3 contacts. If it helps, I think I noticed my vision clearing itself in the brief glimpse between pressing Quit and getting sent to the Main Menu.
Log Output file, modpack code, and a short clip will be added shortly. Footage taken with the vanilla Mineshaft interior having generated.

modpack code: 0195aaa4-891b-44b0-3d17-bf541a5c57de

Haven't noticed any particular issues with the rest of Diversity's changes

I will appreciate any help in resolving this bug, or having it looked at in the future versions of Diversity

[astral magnet]

Haven't had that issue with ||the stairs|| before, probs a mod conflict of some kind just looking at the clip but wouldn't be able to say what it's conflicting with

As for the config

||It's sending you to the stairs the third time it touches you with it set to 2, yeah? if that's the case that's (probably) intended||

||With the default config the walker will send you on the 4th touch||

[marble summit]

Mu

[astral magnet]

hi rodigo

[marble summit]

[astral magnet]

||The walker, after touching someone 3 times on the default config, enters a new phase for next time it shows up rather than stairsing its target right then and there||

||Once it reappears after 3 touches it'll be faster and beeline it to its target, ignoring any other players, and stairs them on contact||

||It's a lil weird how it's worded but that's how it is, if you wanted it to enter its stairs phase and stairs someone the second time it shows up you'd have to set that to 1||

[marble summit]

||Mu||

[astral magnet]

||hi rodigo||

[marble summit]

||you lost the game ||

[astral magnet]

||god fucking damn it||

[orchid meadow]

Ah, appreciate it. So that's applying properly then. Good. So that just leaves the overlay problem...
I do have ImmersiveVisors installed. It's the only mod which messes with the overlay, so perhaps that's causing issues
Having trouble getting the Guy™ to spawn right now, but if that's the source of the issue than it's a big shame! ImmersiveVisors is a one-of-a-kind mod on the LC mod database afaik

[astral magnet]

Maybe, I wouldn't be surprised since it's pretty old and in desperate need of an update

[astral magnet]

in the meantime I have a more tangible bug to report

||Going to the stairs and leaving seems to fuck up lighting for the rest of the session||

||https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/jUnlVoZg3TxPGzHME I have a clip of me going to the stairs where the effect is visible, have had it a few times but after seeing it a few times should probably report it finally||

||Everything gets brighter and it seems to screw up some custom skyboxes, I've seen the effect on detritus from distinctmoonvariety as an example||

||I think the stairs crank up the brightness so it isn't as dark in there but doesn't reverse it on the way out||

||I've tp'ed into the stairs illegally a few times and it's a lot darker when I do that so that's probs what's going on||

[astral magnet]

unrelated but I feel like speaker lines should be synced so everyone hears the same thing, i've had occasions where he'll pipe up about smth on one and and not on another, or say a different line

[azure wedge]

I can't really see the lighting issue... Is it for inside or outside? (I can see nobody is safe from the walker... LOL)

[azure wedge]

Yeah I could do that

[azure wedge]

Immersive visor breaks the post processing in diversity indeed. I could potentially fix this issue but no promises...

[astral magnet]

Probably both, I notice it most on the ship

But it might affect inside too

The ship isn't meant to be as bright at it is in that clip

[azure wedge]

I'll have to check myself, I'm about to join luni since I got some free time

[astral magnet]

oooh fun

you hf

[azure wedge]

Thank you! I'm going to check that lighting issue

[astral magnet]

gonna be nice to see that fixed, even if it's technically harmless

[azure wedge]

There's so many things to fix ;-;

[light jasper]

I'm happy to see you back :,]

I hope everything is ok there

[azure wedge]

Slowly but surely

[opaque wind]

swaggiest dev out there

[azure wedge]

Nahhh

Luni got more swag

Look at her

[opaque wind]

No rush w these things! The mod all in all is super stable, so don't sweat it

[opaque wind]

emo swag

[errant flume]

Emo?

[crude dirge]

Glad to see you back. Hoping you’re doing better! There’s no rush to get a move on so do things at your own pace and how you enjoy it.

[opaque wind]

the black bangs with the green gradient screaaaam scene girl/early 2000s emo LMAO

not a bad thing btw

[orchid meadow]

Perhaps you could make it so that the cutscene could be disabled in the config and just drop you down similarly to the Personal Space, since that feature works fine for my pack?

[azure wedge]

It's not the cutscene the issue but the post processing

If it's disabled the stairs will look... Bad and very bright.

[orchid meadow]

Ah, I see what's the deal here is. I was assuming it's just for the cutscene.

Oh well, I guess I'll have to pick between the two options for the time being. Thanks for answering!

[errant flume]

Hopefully when you join us later you can get sent to the stairs and experience it after escaping lol

[azure wedge]

Well after I wake up yeah LOL.

[errant flume]

I mean I'm also gonna sleep soon 😆

[azure wedge]

Ahh gotcha gotcha

[errant flume]

Yeah I don't start stream til 3 pm EST

[azure wedge]

Prob gonna wake up at 5-6 PM LOL

[errant flume]

Lmao

[long girder]

just wanted to confirm I also get this after ||the stairs||

[astral magnet]

Good to know it's not just a me thing

[azure wedge]

I will look into it

I have been working on some stuff about the mod now

[red bay]

is the watcher considered an actual enemy like any other that takes up power level?

I have it on 20 weight in the config but it never spawns, and I also cannot add it into the interior enemy spawn list with LQ (which may prevent it from spawning since I use it) because it's not in the list of enemy monsters

[leaden slate]

LQ itself doesnt break it but manualy adding it in LQ might mess with it?

[red bay]

I can't manually add it in LQ

[leaden slate]

for me both watcher and walker work while having LQ installed

[red bay]

it's not in the enemy list of LQ

[leaden slate]

right i confused it with the walker

still it should spawn just fine

i just died to it last saturday

[red bay]

it only spawned once before I started using LQ

we haven't seen it since

[leaden slate]

maybe just ... unlucky

in like 3 sessions ive only seen it once

3 x 5hours or so of playing

[red bay]

it's been months though and some of our moons have really low interior weights (which is 8-10% for an enemy with the weight of 20 to spawn)

[leaden slate]

i do kinda wonder if interiors can mess with it spawning

i think every time ive seen it it has been on vanilla interiors

[astral magnet]

Idk how the watcher is registered/classified internally, but it's not an enemy like the walker is

Probs since it needs vents interiors could probably screw with it yeah

[leaden slate]

well i have like 16 interiors or something installed but i think only ScarletDevilMansion and Tomb dont have vents and i still have only seen him once in facility and like 3x in mansion

would have to do some testing to confirm this tho, maybe tomorrow

[azure wedge]

To answer you, it uses my own AI script unlike LC's AI. So LQ can't detect it. And weight works as expected though the watcher has a unique spawn logic which has a lot of factors, like sanity, time spent, and level difficulty.

[astral magnet]

would that make it a thing of "it spawns like any other enemy and it places its weights in the indoor spawn pool but because of how weird and quirky it is it's technically not considered an enemy by imperium/other mods"?

I'm actually kinda curious now I thought it was some weird deal of "internally it isn't an entity or hazard, it's considered some kind of secret third thing"

[azure wedge]

It uses the same spawning method as the other enemy but a different logic. And since the enemy uses my own AI script, well other mods that does their stuff with LC enemies won't be able to do much with mine, unless they make a compatibility patch for it.

[astral magnet]

Strange

[azure wedge]

Yee I had to make my own ai because of vents 🫠

[astral magnet]

Yeah I figured with how the watcher works it wouldn't be able to use the same stuff as other entities

[azure wedge]

Yeee

Also I may or may not be working on another game for modding potentially

ALso Diversity work is progressing

[astral magnet]

Good to hear

Hoping it's going well seeing this mod fully up-to-date and functional is gonna be awesome

[astral magnet]

so wait if the watcher's technically an entity that makes me wonder

how much power does it take up

||Ik the walker doesn't take up any, i wouldn't be surprised if the watcher was the same||

[errant flume]

Whenever you update the mod I hope to see the Watcher have a vent again and to see the arm be hidden when it's hiding so you don't see it sticking out behind a wall lol, I notice when it replaces a vent the vent is never there anymore which makes it stand out like a sore thumb

since you see the eyes staring at you where a vent should be at lol

[astral magnet]

Yeah, the watcher hasn't really been a vent mimic for a while

The rest of its stuff works perfect it's just visuals

[errant flume]

the arm always sticking out ruins it lol

[astral magnet]

I think I've missed the arm sticking out somehow

Usually I only ever see the eyes

[errant flume]

But yeah if we get a solid Diversity update it'll be nice, I don't think I'll be touching LC again for a couple weeks at least though I need a solid break

I'm planning to branch out for a bit with REPO as well as potentially catch up on playing some other games I've been meaning to play

Speaking of Mu you better play REPO today

lol

[astral magnet]

assuming my friends aren't hopping on terraria again this evening lmak

[azure wedge]

:O

Terraria

[safe bluff]

and i wasnt invited, bad friend

[astral magnet]

Idm playing with you sometime just hesitant to mix friend groups

[safe bluff]

didnt invite me to terraria sooner, bad friend

[leaden slate]

i just noticed theres like a vent here, im not sure if vanilla has one too or if one of the ship mods added this but it would be funny as hell if the watcher could spawn there

also small typo in the mod description?

[left kelp]

that vent would be one of the "objects" that revealed again by 2 story ship by melanie (latest update)

[crude dirge]

There is a vent in the vanilla ship though too

Watcher can’t spawn in it sadly

[leaden slate]

Ye ik but it would be so funny

[azure wedge]

So I have some bad news...

I was recently working on Diversity earlier trying to fix the known issues with the mod, and I was hit with a power loss due to bad weather. I tried to go back and continue working and found out that the Diversity project got corrupted. The project was stored on my server where all of its data now got corrupted... I don't know what to do right now. I'll keep y'all updated if I manage to get the project back. If not then yeah...

[astral magnet]

oh that is

I've no clue how to respond to that

I hope you're able to salvage the project somehow that sounds supremely shitty and unfortunate

[gusty eagle]

Reminds me of that one time my Minecraft world got corrupted cuz of a power outage like 3 years ago

Power outages fuck stuff up

[red bay]

last time my whole OS got corrupted or smth and I had to reinstall windows

[gusty eagle]

If a power outage happens during a major update your entire PC can get bricked

Also a power outage made my wireless mouse stop working a couple months ago

[red bay]

how?

[gusty eagle]

Power surges

Because when power comes back on

They can happen

(which I had no idea was the case)

They can even damage PCs

[gusty eagle]

Its just no bueno

[light jasper]

@polar briar hello, sorry for ping, is there a way to solve this?

[polar briar]

well, idk how the files were stored, if there was only a local git repo and the files got destroyed - outlook is not great... depends on how they got corrupted

[marble galleon]

This is why we use git and remote tracking repos, people :[

[gusty eagle]

Repos? Like repo

[vestal ore]

My first repo was for repo

[marble galleon]

https://tenor.com/oEpgqZpZFgb.gif

[vestal ore]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-will-smith-smack-rock-gif-25260165

[safe bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-gif-4448408

[astral magnet]

the pikachu abuse

shameful

[red hearth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317620050982862968/1352087962321551433/s1ckboy-death.gif

endless suffering

[astral magnet]

lmao

[gusty eagle]

Wait guys

What if this is April fools

[crude dirge]

I’d like to think so but it’s just kind of too real for an April fools joke

[potent otter]

no it's christmas

[gusty eagle]

Some people go all out tbh

[vestal ore]

https://tenor.com/view/patrickstar-spongebob-funnygifs-no-thisispatrick-gif-5374126

[astral magnet]

worst patrick ever ngl

[crude dirge]

He’s trying his best

[potent otter]

not only bald, but demotivating

[gusty eagle]

Btw how do I do spoiler or whatever

[astral magnet]

Oh uh

you wrap your message in these ||

||like this||

||like this||

[gusty eagle]

|| alright so like does Walker do anything besides pull u into a stairwell or whatever ||

Oop

|| what does the weird doorway thing do ||

[light jasper]

||It has a small chance to distort your screen||

[light jasper]

||It's the escape point from the stairs||

[astral magnet]

||That's before tho isn't it?||

||I remember hearing if you're getting the screen distortions enough (i.e. you're insane enough) it'll take you somewhere new||

[light jasper]

||It still does that :]||

[astral magnet]

||Even when you're already in there?||

||oh shit||

[gusty eagle]

|| theres other enemies I think? what do they do ||

[astral magnet]

||Just the watcher, it's like a vent mimic, or it tries to be but it doesn't cover itself properly due to a bug||

||The rest of the mod's enemy-based content are changes to vanilla enemies||

[gusty eagle]

|| is there a mod that fixes the watcher? ||

[astral magnet]

||Unfortunately not :(||

[gusty eagle]

|| rip ||

[errant flume]

The only way we'll find out if this was an April Fools joke is if Chaos reveals it later

[gusty eagle]

We must wait until April 2nd

That will be the day of reckoning

[opaque wind]

skill issue

||or not depends on if you're joshing but i hope you are||

[gusty eagle]

[potent otter]

[gusty eagle]

I'm canceling this dude

He's never coming back

[potent otter]

[gusty eagle]

Not you

Bio-monty

[crude dirge]

Don’t cancel him he hasn’t released wax soldier yet

[potent otter]

oh I thought you gonna cancel integrity actually

[gusty eagle]

What

[potent otter]

fair enough
let's cancel bio-monty

[potent otter]

What

[crude dirge]

He hasn’t released floating ogopogi yet don’t cancel him

[potent otter]

floating WHAT????

[gusty eagle]

Dw we will cancel you to ❤️

[potent otter]

anything but floating ogoo

[crude dirge]

Language

[potent otter]

[crude dirge]

I saw that

[potent otter]

nuh-uh

[gusty eagle]

What did he say

🤔

[marble galleon]

[potent otter]

[crude dirge]

[potent otter]

I'm polite
you won't get me dirty

[azure wedge]

And this is why I say... April fools c:

[astral magnet]

oh so you didn't lose the project then?

[azure wedge]

Diversity is safe yes

[astral magnet]

Thank god

[gusty eagle]

Yay

[astral magnet]

Can't wait to see that update then, whenever it comes out

[gusty eagle]

Can u fix the bugs with the walker or whatever it's called

[astral magnet]

Does the walker have any bugs atp?

[azure wedge]

It's going to come out in around 5 months

[astral magnet]

oh god that's gonna take a bit then

[azure wedge]

April fools...

[astral magnet]

Okay thank fuck

[azure wedge]

SORRY LOL

[astral magnet]

LMAO

[potent otter]

LMAO

[solid raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/zhouzhou-orange-cat-cat-with-orange-sleepy-cat-gif-14937184825975080647

[astral magnet]

Like off the top of my head there's the ||lighting bug after leaving the stairs||, uhhh

[potent otter]

https://tenor.com/view/spoon-cat-spoon-spoon-cat-cat-apple-apple-cat-gif-254879498273748

[astral magnet]

I guess ||the fact its scan node and radar pip don't disappear with it but that's a bit more minor||

[gusty eagle]

Uh the one where it soft locks with custom doorways right?

[astral magnet]

Oh yeah shit I forgot about that

[gusty eagle]

Lol

[astral magnet]

At the least that shouldn't be too big a deal to fix since diversitynofloppy's code is open source and he could check that pretty easily

[azure wedge]

I already know what to do without even going on the game and test it out

[gusty eagle]

Guys when is there gonna be a fan made liquidation moon

[azure wedge]

But of course I'll test it cause I ain't stoopid...

[gusty eagle]

🔥

[astral magnet]

Yeah fair enough

[gusty eagle]

It's actually insane when people don't test stuff before updating it

And how common it is with smaller games/mods

[astral magnet]

Only other technically not a bug ||would be to make the sus door easier to get its thing to happen that isn't you going there post-stairs, if not make a config for everything relevant||

[azure wedge]

That's why I opened a beta testing section in my server... Diversity is way too complex for me to test...

[lean ibex]

when i saw it earlier in this channel i was worried, anf then i remembered what day it is

[astral magnet]

I was worried also but it seemed a bit too real for april fools

[azure wedge]

Also there's 2 other games I might start to mod too eventually...

[lean ibex]

my logic was that nobody announces truly bad news on april 1st

[azure wedge]

And no it's not repo... I got burnt out from repo by overplaying it with friends...

[astral magnet]

understandable

which games if you don't mind me asking

[gusty eagle]

Saw a mod creater fail to fix a bug 3 times in a row

[azure wedge]

Odd remedy and Schedule I

[gusty eagle]

It was crazy

[astral magnet]

ahh

[azure wedge]

You mean me?

[astral magnet]

I've heard vaguely of the latter's existence

[gusty eagle]

Not you

Another one

Lethalcompanyvariables

[azure wedge]

I failed to properly fix the bracken neck snap at least 13 times now....

[gusty eagle]

Xd

Did u fix it uet

Yet

[astral magnet]

Uh

Judging by the fact that clients still get softlocked when a bracken tries to send them to their personal space

No

💀

[azure wedge]

Nuh... Bracken is not in my favor....

[gusty eagle]

Just remove personal space 🤑 /j

[opaque wind]

i was NOT falling for that shit chaos I know your conniving ass

[astral magnet]

Bunch of other bugs relating to that too to my knowledge, ||i've heard the escape button mash prompt was broken and noticed that the "THEY ARE PAYING THE PRICE" text was host-only as well||

[opaque wind]

skill issue all the way baby

(but fr though im glad nothing bad actually happened ;P)

[azure wedge]

Imma add the watcher as an obstacle in the personal space...

[astral magnet]

Oh my god that's evil

[azure wedge]

Hell yeahhhhh

[astral magnet]

same

[gusty eagle]

Bout to turn off personal space >:)

[azure wedge]

Well the April fools was actually half true

[gusty eagle]

Btw why is it called personal space

And not smth else

[azure wedge]

I did have lots of power loss yesterday when I was in bed

[astral magnet]

It's because it's the bracken's personal space, i guess?

[azure wedge]

Who knows my PC may be fried and I dunno...

[astral magnet]

Idk maybe there's lore explaining why and how the bracken has this corridor

[gusty eagle]

U should have unplugged it

[azure wedge]

I have power surge protection on all my plugs

[gusty eagle]

Oh

[azure wedge]

c:

[gusty eagle]

U will be fine

Power surges r no joke

They took out my 3 year old wireless mouse

[azure wedge]

Power surge protection got over surged...

Imagine

[gusty eagle]

Lucky it didn't take out my pc

[astral magnet]

||Since when was the plant able to speak, screw up electronics and teleport victims to a goddamn pocket dimension||

[gusty eagle]

Cuz the wireless thing was hooked up to the pc

[astral magnet]

||I bet diversity did some fuckin sorcery on it||

[gusty eagle]

And I still don't have power surge protecters

:)

[azure wedge]

The plant??

[astral magnet]

I mean

It's a fuckin plant critter

In vanilla at least

[gusty eagle]

Didn't you know we live on an apple?

That's on an apple tree

[azure wedge]

I have absolutely no clue whatchu talking about ngl...

[gusty eagle]

Me neither

[azure wedge]

LOL

[astral magnet]

i mean idk about this apple tree but i do find it mildly funny that the sneaky leafy boy from vanilla goes on its shadow monster man horror beyond comprehension arc with diversity installed

[azure wedge]

Ahhh well...

[gusty eagle]

Oh yeah

[astral magnet]

again, i blame diversity for this

||not the mod the group in-lore||

[gusty eagle]

I forgot the bracken has like leaves on its body

[astral magnet]

||they put chemicals in the water that turned the frickin brackens evil||

[azure wedge]

Look

[gusty eagle]

Most pointless spoiler:

[astral magnet]

||Look for all I know they could've as part of their weird fucked-up unethical experiments 🤷‍♀️||

[azure wedge]

||In the lore of Diversity... Everyone, every monster... Used to be human...|| <- big Diversity lore spoiler.

[gusty eagle]

Worst lore ever

[astral magnet]

||Y'know||

||I could've gathered that some were based on the floppy discs I've listened to||

||But everyone???||

[gusty eagle]

Ooooo

Im telling

[astral magnet]

||Like at minimum the walker, ghost girl, hesitantly bracken||

[azure wedge]

Yup everyone...

[gusty eagle]

|| Everyone is a bit much ||

[solid raptor]

bald mu oopid

smooooooth brain

because bald

[gusty eagle]

|| stop spoiling ur lore ||

[solid raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/consider-the-following-rabbit-bunny-pet-gif-26758967

[astral magnet]

Yes I messed up the spoiler but I fixed it

[azure wedge]

Remember the floppy in the bracken space?

[astral magnet]

||I had to cheat into it because the bracken room's fuckin broken but I've listened to it yeah||

[azure wedge]

||That's the bracken talking.||

[astral magnet]

||Holy fuckin bejeesus||

[gusty eagle]

|| can u post ghost girl floppy disks on yt so I don't have to drag one of my friends to play this game ||

[astral magnet]

||And I take it the child and father in the stairs floppy are the ghost girl and walker respectively?||

[azure wedge]

Too easyyyyy

[azure wedge]

||Yeppers||

[astral magnet]

||fuckin wicked that can't believe those two were related in more ways than one ||

[gusty eagle]

|| what if u make surviving ghost girl chasing you or whatever she does in this mod drop a floppy disks during solo?||

[azure wedge]

||The girl got utterly tortured and killed in front of the father.||

[astral magnet]

[gusty eagle]

[astral magnet]

||honestly skill issue on the dad's part he shouldn't have been bald /j||

[azure wedge]

||She drops a floppy when someone dies. For solo I haven't thought of anything...||

[gusty eagle]

|| ik she does ||

[astral magnet]

||Actually it occurred to me||

[azure wedge]

||WHAT? GLITCHED VOICED GIM BTW||

[astral magnet]

||Yeah he told me||

[azure wedge]

Damn poor glitched ;-;

[astral magnet]

||Look it's a meme to call him bald, ignore the fact I'm also bald||

[azure wedge]

Oh really?

[astral magnet]

Yea

[gusty eagle]

||why is he bald||

[astral magnet]

||He's not literally bald but he's not got a lot of hair on his head||

||He looks damn close to it||

[azure wedge]

Bald person said skill issue to another bald person... Once in a life time LOL

[gusty eagle]

|| is he like baldi with a single strand of hair on his head? ||

[astral magnet]

LOL NO

[azure wedge]

Baldi ;-;

[gusty eagle]

Missed opportunity

[astral magnet]

i mean i'm sure people have made the joke anyway

about baldi

[gusty eagle]

Lol

[azure wedge]

April 1st now becomes the Bald awareness day.

[astral magnet]

lmfao

Anyway I'm getting hella sidetracked

||So regarding the speaker and the comedian he once was||

[azure wedge]

Same lol

[astral magnet]

||Did. did diversity somehow cram him in there||

[azure wedge]

Oh he's the worst of them all

[astral magnet]

||just fuckin shoved him into that lil intercom||

[gusty eagle]

When diversity April fools update?

[azure wedge]

Oh no no no no he's way worse you can imagine...

[gusty eagle]

That just deletes all ur data and blue screens your pc

[astral magnet]

oh god

[azure wedge]

||Speaker man was the one and only successful experiment. He had over hundreds of painful experiments conducted on him.||

[astral magnet]

||Yeah that's what I figured||

[azure wedge]

||You could say he became an omnipresent being...||

[astral magnet]

||oh my god did they create a fucking god||

[azure wedge]

Mayhaps

Although he has some "restrictions"

[astral magnet]

||I was figuring if the majority of the people diversity touched ended up becoming the various fauna of lethal company and diversity that whatever their one success was ended up becoming smth else||

[devout ibex]

Hop on REPO, meow

[astral magnet]

Shut up evil pawsy

[light jasper]

don't scare me like that

[azure wedge]

You're welcome c:

||Speaker man is the reason of the downfall of Diversity Corp.||

[light jasper]

anyways, make backup if it EVER happens

[azure wedge]

I have plentyyyy

[astral magnet]

||ah yeah fair if i became god against my will my first instinct would be to smite the guys that made me that way probably||

||esp if it was apparently painful||

[azure wedge]

||yeah but doing so kinda released all the monsters out... Which made Lethal company.||

[devout ibex]

Hop on REPO, meow

[azure wedge]

I will send you to Diversity if you keep saying repo...

[astral magnet]

||Man I can't believe every single tulip snake I unceremoniously whacked off my head was actually a living breathing humanperson||

[azure wedge]

||Children...||

[astral magnet]

||Actually yeah true||

[azure wedge]

||Can't stop trying to find their parental love||

[marble galleon]

I feel like Pawsy isn't being annoying enough

[astral magnet]

||Wait that's actually kinda fucked up jesus moly ||

[light jasper]

so

If I say

Lethal Company

[devout ibex]

Hop on REPO, meow

[gusty eagle]

Make it respond to every message

[light jasper]

yeah

[gusty eagle]

Lethal company

.mm

...

[azure wedge]

I will break it...

[marble galleon]

it only works for cool people, meow

[devout ibex]

Meows evily

[gusty eagle]

Pawsy hates me

Lethal Company

[devout ibex]

Hop on REPO, meow

[astral magnet]

||"yea bro we're gonna do smth real cool and revolutionary"||

||"Cool sign me up but don't turn me into a marketable jack-in-the-box"||

||(clueless)||

[azure wedge]

||I can turn you into a loaf of bread.||

[astral magnet]

||I would rather not be turned into a loaf of bread||

[azure wedge]

Why not?

[astral magnet]

||Uh. i quite like having a mind||

[azure wedge]

A mindful loaf of bread then

[astral magnet]

||and the ability to move, and talk and do things any human person can||

||And not be made of wheat||

[azure wedge]

Bread shark mayhaps?

[astral magnet]

||regardless this convo has been fuckin ridiculous, makes me imagine that one "always has been" meme but like||

[astral magnet]

||"it was all people?" or whatever||

[astral magnet]

||Honestly kinda cute but if you use the same process as the diversity folks do I don't think that'd be fun||

[azure wedge]

Bread shark

No pain no gain

[astral magnet]

||Whatever that process is||

No pain no pain more like

But like

pain as in french for bread

[azure wedge]

...

I'm french Canadian and didn't notice the joke

[astral magnet]

lmfao

||But yeah no fuckin wonder the bracken and ghost girl and walker and shit seem so spiteful and keen on fucking up their victims||

||Actually wait shit that applies to the spore lizard kinda as well if we're viewing this under the lens of "it's people it was ALWAYS people"||

[azure wedge]

Yep now you're figuring it out

@astral magnet the tentacle in the Company building... I'll let you think about that one...

[astral magnet]

I didn't even think about that

||wait i assume the watcher is included in "it's all people?"||

||why does it look like diversity out of curiosity, it has the eyes||

[azure wedge]

||Yep I mean it also drops a floppy too...||

[astral magnet]

||Wait since when||

[azure wedge]

Since always

[astral magnet]

||I was trying to get it to drop a floppy a while ago and couldn't get it to||

[azure wedge]

Gotta smack it real hard

The non existent vent

[astral magnet]

||I've smacked it and it didn't drop anything, was I meant to smack it more???||

[azure wedge]

More yeah

It's based on chance

[astral magnet]

||Oh god that's gonna be Fun to attempt||

[azure wedge]

There's also a chance that uhhh

||He kills you instead.||

[astral magnet]

||Hmm yeah I remember hearing about that||

[astral magnet]

||okay but yeah this doesn't answer my question of why it looks like diversity||

[azure wedge]

Because why not? Mehehehe

[astral magnet]

yea fair

||White eyes in the darkness is a spooky motif and ig maybe it was coincidence, or diversity made it in their image somehow||

||or it took that image to spite diversity||

[azure wedge]

So much loreeee my brainnnn

[astral magnet]

||Actually yeah I just remembered the corpses you find outside near a lot of the experiment log discs and I assume speaker guy did all that?||

[azure wedge]

Not necessarily

[astral magnet]

Well yeah i assume it wouldn't be that simple

||You said he had restrictions||

||such as ig being confined to an intercom, forcing you to meet a quota while avoiding death by monsterified people, so you can feed also monsterified person oh god||

[azure wedge]

Huge powers always have some drawbacks

[astral magnet]

||what the fuck this is doing some Things to the premise what the fuck did diversity DO||

[azure wedge]

Lots of things...

Lots...

[astral magnet]

yeah clearly

[azure wedge]

When my game will be released... You be able to find out a lot about Diversity...

And face diversity too...

[astral magnet]

Oh shit that's gonna be fun to play through I bet

[azure wedge]

Yeah until then I have to find time to work on it...

[astral magnet]

||Hey maybe I even get details on their exact methods, which maybe I don't wanna know that really but not gonna stop me being curious||

[opaque wind]

Oh im still super excited about that :o

I remember you dropping a vid of it a while back on a server

[astral magnet]

Me even more so after that whole conversation

[opaque wind]

I haven't read the convo cuz i don't want spoilers and also don't wanna... steal lore by accident

[astral magnet]

yeaaa fair

[opaque wind]

cuz I know some of chaos' ideas will be seeded in my brain and I'll forget they're his POSAIJDIOSA

[astral magnet]

LMOA

[opaque wind]

the single thing I unspoiled already had shit I was planning so I'm treading carefully

[astral magnet]

Yeah understandable

[azure wedge]

Feel free to use them really

It's just ideas

[opaque wind]

well yeah, but I don't want Biodiversity to have lore too similar to Diversity, yknow what I mean

I like to feel unique heheh, even though your lore looks flames

[azure wedge]

Imagine I say that Diversity corp was made by a group of teenagers LMAO

[red bay]

||Snare Flea lore?||

[azure wedge]

Ahhh yesss his lore

||His lore is a bit similar to the puffer... Think of it as batman... They became their most irrational fear...||

But quite literally..

[astral magnet]

||scared of bugs huh||

||damn that has to suck||

[azure wedge]

@astral magnet What are you scared of?

[astral magnet]

Uhhh

[azure wedge]

Diversity or me aren't options

LMAO

[astral magnet]

LMAO

I'm not really sure

I don't have any phobias I can think of

[azure wedge]

Heights? Boom you became a sky scraper. Enjoy!

[astral magnet]

If anything I remember being easily spooked by the bracken in my early days playing lethal

But that was less the bracken's fault more

Oh I'm just vibin I'm not in danger

Turn around

[red bay]

wisdom teeth

[astral magnet]

Thing's right behind me

[azure wedge]

Backstabbed as a fear

[astral magnet]

Gonna get turned into a knife

[red bay]

Butler

[astral magnet]

More recently ||the walker's a more consistent heart attack, when it's on me||

||If it's not on me it's a mere curiosity I look at and go "wao look at him go"||

[azure wedge]

You became a monster who's head can turn 360, You also scratch your back so much till you bleed from your fear. And because of your fear you tend to put your back on walls, smearing them of your blood along the way...

[astral magnet]

||If it is I've no clue it's there and I inevitably crash into him at mach fuck and my instincts get sent into fuckin overdrive for a split-second and it's already gone and I'm like "fuck's sake AGAIN???"||

[azure wedge]

ANd that ladie and gentleman, that's how I come up with monster ideas.

[astral magnet]

What the fuck

[azure wedge]

BEcoming the fear of back stabbing

[astral magnet]

That is a genuinely terrifying monster idea

[azure wedge]

||You became a meatball with bunch of wisdom teeth poking out from everywhere. Ironically similar to some tumors LOL||

[astral magnet]

||sounds gross||

[azure wedge]

That's actually a real thing...

That tumors could have

[astral magnet]

Damn

[azure wedge]

And hair too

Yeah I spoiled it caus it's gross

Don't look it up...

[astral magnet]

In all seriousness tho you cooked with that thing ||i swear whatever you did with that thing's design/mechanics/whatever it never seems to fail at making me, even for a moment, think I'm about to fucking die||

[azure wedge]

Dw I scared myself too a couple times

[astral magnet]

lmfao it's that effective??

damn

[azure wedge]

Yeppers

[crude dirge]

Is there some sort of lore im missing about diversity? I haven’t used the floppy discs much

[astral magnet]

Uhh

Yeah go check the other floppy discs

[crude dirge]

Because that’s horrifying and gives ||upturned vibes||

[astral magnet]

||I've never played upturned what ||

[crude dirge]

Somewhat major spoiler:
||Theres a separate guy in charge of the hotel alongside Ik and he basically turned the place into a death trap. Except people can’t die in the afterlife so they essentially become glass panels, mushed down into a pulp or in the case most noticeable, horrifying monstrosities which you find in game.||

[astral magnet]

Ooookay yeah I'm saving that for when I eventually play the upturned

[azure wedge]

But you know what's worst than all of that?

[crude dirge]

It’s a really goofy and fun game, but the lore is really good

Like really good

[astral magnet]

I've heard nothing but good about it yeah\

[astral magnet]

After the entirety of the rest of that convo?

what the fuck are you about to say

[azure wedge]

No... The amount of suffering and pain in my light novel....

[astral magnet]

Oh yeah you mentioned rezero as an inspiration

which

Bodes well

having watched the first two seasons of the anime

[azure wedge]

Yeah my MC is uh...

Yeah he already lost his mind

[astral magnet]

Not a concerning thing to hear at all no sir

But I like me some fucked shit so lmk when that comes out

[azure wedge]

And very gore too...

[astral magnet]

yeaaaah again considering rezero not surprised

[azure wedge]

I'm making my DND campaing based on my novel too

[astral magnet]

Oh god that sounds like an Experience for everyone who's making characters for that

[azure wedge]

Yeah... New homebrew rules and all

Also the sheet for character is custom

[astral magnet]

damn

[gusty eagle]

Dont focus on something while leaving a moon

my eyes got hurted

[gray leaf]

hey question how does the snatchinbracken compat work?

after dragging you it then sends you to his dimension? or it just kills you and there is no dimension

bc playing with a friend we both got grab by the bracken but neither of us went to his dimension, he just killed us

[gusty eagle]

The bracken personal space is the one that sends you to his dimension

[gray leaf]

I know

Im talking about the diversity and snatchinbracken compat option

I have the personal space thingy checked on but it didn't take us there after dragging us

[astral magnet]

Might be the compat is broken atp, unsure

Or it's at least in part because of the personal space being broken but then you wouldn't die so idk

[gray leaf]

Mmm maybe, i know this mod hasnt been updated in a while so i guess ill have to decide on which one to disable

Nah i am NOT disabling diversity

[astral magnet]

Snatchinbracken's last update was longer ago than the last update to diversity

looking at it

I haven't tried running diversity with snatchin before so hard to say

[gray leaf]

I just wanted to try bc i knew long ago they werent compatible, you either use diversity or snatchin, but when i came back to modding i see in the diversity config a snatchinbracken compat

So i wanted to try it

[potent otter]

so you can install imperium, set up the config with snatchinbracken and diversity, spawn bracken, and check that out

[gray leaf]

😡

Nah imperium is so buggy for me

Almost half the option dont work

[gusty eagle]

Skrill skissue

[gray leaf]

[gusty eagle]

U should try to go to liquidation using imperium

It really works!!!

[gray leaf]

Really???

Im going right now!!

[gusty eagle]

(softlocks the game)

[gray leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[potent otter]

stuped

[gusty eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-we're-going-lethal-mimic-swarm-lethal-company-mimic-swarm-of-mimics-gif-3718220177263154162

This is actually liquidation!!

[potent otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1097128719631532072/87D52857-9762-4981-BDBB-01EC178D9526.gif

exactly

[gray leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/catto-gif-17643687004817745866

[gusty eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/sandy-dragging-patrick-spongebob-meme-stan-twitter-gif-13540379491638491213

Me to the physicsAPI mod

[gray leaf]

The bracken snatchin you to his space

If it just worked

[jade cloud]

Is there a name for the watcher so I can spawn it in? I'm using the imperium mod and I can't spawn it in at all because I can't find the name

[astral magnet]

The watcher can't be spawned in with or detected by imperium because it uses its own ai class that isn't based on the vanilla one at all to my knowledge

or however it works I think it was smth like that

Your best bet is to just set its weight to 100, minimise any other enemy spawns and pray

[jade cloud]

damn

[lean ibex]

why does this mod cause this log to be spammed during generation? it also freezes the game while this is getting logged until its finished

is it because of the walker trying to find doors?

[gusty eagle]

oh wait

if its just freezing until its finished being logged

thats smth different

the walker thing just softlocks ur game lol

[lean ibex]

huh

i mean i did just get a softlock on black mesa during the seed screen

i could see if removing diversity fixes that too

[gusty eagle]

diversitynofloppy should fix that

[lean ibex]

so removing diversity did allow it to generate but it was way slower and laggier

i'm suspecting something else is causing the black mesa issue specifically

lethal quantities is acting weird with it

[astral magnet]

I doubt this is the walker trying to find doors

My theory is that it's to do with what comes after the door, that it's generating that

If it's diversity

But hard to say as I've never been able to see the fruits of all that logging for myself :(

[azure wedge]

It's diversity. ||It's generating the room for that 'door'||

[astral magnet]

Yeah okay that's what I figured

was the most likely option

||still gotta get in there somehow it's driving me nuts that that lil bit of content's been out for 6 months and I still haven't managed to see it whatsoever||

[lean ibex]

why does it do that? is the special door different than the normal doors? like is there a reason it can't be applied after the normal generation?

(and i guess why does it make the generation times so much longer)

[astral magnet]

To my VERY limited knowledge ||the new place you get taken to through that door under the right conditions is its own dungeon||

||Hence the additional bit of generation||

||In all situations except when you're on the way out of the stairs or when you're being mentally screwed up enough by a walker it's a normal-ass door with a suspicious tooltip but in the latter case it takes you there||

[azure wedge]

The moment I do the generation doesn't matter if it's before or after. Generation always cause stutter if I want to keep consistency when it comes to seed randomness with unity. And the issue with the door not spawning is just modded interior where their door's structure is different and when I try to look into it to add the new door well the mod just errors out and soft-locks the game.

[lean ibex]

Maybe I'm confused

It isn't the generation for the walker staircase right?

[azure wedge]

Nope.

[lean ibex]

It's specifically for the odd door?

[azure wedge]

Correct

[lean ibex]

And the reason it slows down so much is cus of syncing?

[azure wedge]

Nope. Lemme try to show you visually, hang on.

I had to dig up my screenshots but this is the closest thing I screenshotted while working on it. ||It generates another 'dungeon' beyond that door. Also there's more than what's displayed on the screenshot and bigger too.||

[astral magnet]

||Would make sense if it's generating in a similar way to how interiors are done in vanilla||

[azure wedge]

It's 70% similar I'd say.

[astral magnet]

||Typically I use loadstone to make vanilla interior generation smoother but I can assume loadstone wouldn't be touching the maze?||

[errant flume]

Floppy Reader is still the naughtiest thing you've coded lol

[azure wedge]

I knowwwww

[errant flume]

DiFFoZ finding that expensive couroutine it was doing recently XD

[azure wedge]

Yes I'll redo it...

[azure wedge]

Not sure on what lodestone does exactly behind the scenes...

[safe bluff]

I'll never forgive you chaos

[errant flume]

In other words I fucking hate HDRP

[azure wedge]

Nah you will

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

[astral magnet]

I think the main thing is making loading/generation asynchronous where it can

[errant flume]

I'm trying to update my cosmetic mod and trying to get my VRMs to load in a HDRP project has been pain, they don't wanna load the shaders

Idk how Xu managed to get it to work for Alex's model replacer

lol

[safe bluff]

Ive never seen zeekerss do worse, my standards were already rock bottom

[astral magnet]

Since typically the game stalls during that

[safe bluff]

They just work, I'd show but I deleted your model the instant I was done with it mo the ago

[errant flume]

I'm currently hoping converting the damn model to a fbx will allow it to work lol

[safe bluff]

Yeah do that

Get it into blender

Export as fbx

[azure wedge]

It would work for vanilla, The only issue is if both generation occurs asyncronously, they start clashing and the seed becomes completely fucked in a way. That's why I make the whole game literally STOP while mine is generating in order for it to not clash.

[safe bluff]

And enjoy assigning all 15 misnamed materials

[astral magnet]

I see

I'm sure there's some other way to prevent that

[errant flume]

I mean I'm amazed when I loaded it in Blender it instantly loaded all the textures

[azure wedge]

Probably, but I had it all planned for s certain date for thge event and all. So it was my best option.

[astral magnet]

Understandable

[azure wedge]

And like I said... My PC is mega beefy those type of lags I barely notice them ;-;

I need to nerf myself....

[safe bluff]

Blender auto assigns em, I'm sure unity can do the same but you're wanting to use toon shaders and I wouldn't know the shortcuts

[errant flume]

Yeah it explodes in Unity

I fucking am just not gonna bother

HDRP is garbage

[azure wedge]

Indeed

HDRP sucks

[safe bluff]

I blame your pc if you're crashing unity

[errant flume]

Gives me a legit headache cus nothing loads right in HDRP

Oh no Unity didn't crash

But I can't change the materials if it's a fbx

[safe bluff]

You can

[errant flume]

Nah it was greyed out

[safe bluff]

Just assign the materials on the material tab

Press the fbx

Go to materials

Assign your material

You can export all the materials embedded onto the model too

And it'll auto assign em

[errant flume]

Yeah when I clicked on the material it was greyed out

[safe bluff]

And put em in a folder for you

[astral magnet]

||Figuring out how to get the maze to generate async would be nice for performance though there's probably worse stuff impacting that atm, and my pc's decent enough that atp I mainly just care about trying to see that shit ingame it has eluded me for FAR TOO LONG||

[safe bluff]

Yeah cuz they're embedded

You needed to just press the button above the materials

This is not hdrp, this is just unity

And probably unreal

[lean ibex]

Oh what the

[azure wedge]

There will be some neat configs for ya next update about this new dungeon...

[lean ibex]

When does that appear

[astral magnet]

Uh

[lean ibex]

I've never seen it

[astral magnet]

||Door that looks odd||

[safe bluff]

It's so early in the morning you yapper 9000

https://tenor.com/view/toki-pona-mu-soweli-suwi-mu-mu-mu-gif-11394514942443429797

[astral magnet]

hi xu

lmao

[lean ibex]

Well yeah I've seen the odd door

[safe bluff]

Hi

[azure wedge]

Me being awake at 5:35 AM...

[errant flume]

Nah it's HDRP, I'm surprised noone has made a thing for VRMs to load textures with UniVRM yet, there's one for URP but not HDRP

[lean ibex]

I've never seen a separate interior on it

[errant flume]

Noone wants to support HDRP

lol

[safe bluff]

No it's definitely not hdrp

[azure wedge]

That's lame

[astral magnet]

||something something if walker is alive and you are sufficiently crazy trying to go through takes you there||

[astral magnet]

||smth like that||

[errant flume]

I can load my models fine with a standard 3D project though with UniVRM lol

[safe bluff]

the shiny button called Extract Materials

[lean ibex]

Hmmmm

[safe bluff]

i've already done it with janitor so it's greyed out since he has nothing embedded into him rn

[errant flume]

I love that they're all named as none

LOL

[safe bluff]

yeah cuz they dont have anything assigned to them

they only get assigned once you extract em

otherwise they're just embedded in

i dont think they're named none i think it's just there's no Remapped materials

[azure wedge]

That would be correct

[safe bluff]

when you extract em they become remapped and removed from the fbx

and put into whatever folder you extracted them into

[errant flume]

Ah

[lean ibex]

So I guess if it's skipping that generation it's bcus the walker is incapable of spawning on the moon?

[errant flume]

What do I change them to to fix it though?

[safe bluff]

you dont change anything, just press Extract materials and itll auto assign all the materials into your model and put them into a folder you can edit them in

[astral magnet]

The walker should be able to spawn on every moon if it's enabled/has weights set

[azure wedge]

Nothing to do with the walker spawning. Rather the door generation 'jamming'/erroring out

[astral magnet]

as in the act of actually choosing the door right

[azure wedge]

Yeppers

[astral magnet]

Yeah that's what that is

[lean ibex]

Oh

[errant flume]

Wait do I need to also use the VRM? I am so confused how I do this

[lean ibex]

So that's unintended behavior

[astral magnet]

Yeah

[lean ibex]

Ok

[errant flume]

I extracted them but I'm so lost on what to do after that

[azure wedge]

Yup that's a thing I need to fix, not too complicated to do so.

[astral magnet]

Atp diversitynofloppy fixes it but I assume that fix is gonna be implemented into diversity proper in the coming update

[lean ibex]

Weird that I never noticed it generating like that until like 4 days ago