SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [4.3.4]

[peak quartz]

yeah its probably ok for singleplayer but i betcha your friend will fall through the floor upon entering 🥲

yeah hope so

[tacit pier]

so this fix wont work for moons that have more than 2 fire escapes?

also what's the name of the SCP moon that we can put there? is it just 'Secret Labs'?

[golden venture]

secret labs without capital i believe

but if you put this you cant run LethalExpansion mod the mod that adds modded moons

they are not compatible

[tacit pier]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/HolographicWings/LethalExpansion/ this?

[north cobalt]

Yeah its either custom moons or custom interiors

[peak quartz]

i guess ill just make due with my shitty 1.3.6 debloated version untill a better fix is here 🥲

[errant sandal]

May I ask if the SCP facility is currently running stably on the Vanilla moons?

[peak quartz]

Pretty sure yeah, as long as you dont have LE installed (might work with it installed too havent tested)

[tacit pier]

where is this version?

[errant sandal]

Oh, darn it, most of my mods depend on LE.

[tacit pier]

ah found it

yeah that's the problem

[peak quartz]

ahh nice 😄 lethalexpansioncore should be the name

[north cobalt]

Yeh for me it doesnt even work without LE

naaah

im done hahaha

[peak quartz]

wtff thats really weird :/ you are using r2modman right?

[north cobalt]

No thunderstore

[peak quartz]

aaah

[errant sandal]

Many good scrap mods rely on LE (Lethal Expansion).

[north cobalt]

I have only the interiors loaded up

[peak quartz]

and you are sure you installed all dependencies? like hookgen, lethallib and bepinex

[north cobalt]

Yeah

[peak quartz]

damn 😒 you could give r2modmanager a shot if youd like, i doubt you have done anything wrong but its always nice to double check

[north cobalt]

If a mod manager cracks it all up imma

https://tenor.com/view/jody-high-roller-braces-silver-sharp-shark-teeth-gif-5409083

[peak quartz]

😭 😂 😂 😂

[tawdry aspen]

for the temporary the moon can only have 1 fire exit?

[peak quartz]

really handy for downloading mods tho, and you can always get the bepinex for manual install later with it

[peak quartz]

Yeah appearantly that would fix the void issue

as lethalexpansion struggles with several fire exits combined with interiors i guess

[golden venture]

correct

thank you for the reply

[tawdry aspen]

Ill fix it real quick

[golden venture]

if you want feedback on ur moon i recommend making a thread in #1169056298856362105

❤️

[peak quartz]

pretty sure he has his own discord channel, but this would be more organized imo 😄

[golden venture]

couldnt find it

[tawdry aspen]

I was going to make one for my next moon thought it was too late to do one now

[golden venture]

its never too late

there is still bugs with the level and this server has many people and you would get way more feedback this way i think

[peak quartz]

Definitely not too late, id be active there.

[peak quartz]

hope the mod manager works out for you 🙏

btw badhamknibbs sent me this yesterday if youd like to test the multiplayer aspects yourself @golden venture
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1184708473800364083

[north cobalt]

Nah its cooked i'll have to wait out untill this thing gets more updates

[golden venture]

oooo

[peak quartz]

Im sorry bro that sucks :/ ill see if i can make a working profile i could send you to test

[fiery radish]

@lofty canyon Hey! Just wanted to let you know that I found a potential issue with fire exit generation on the FoundationLengthOverride option, I set our group's value to 6 for a slightly smaller dungeon size on all moons as it felt a bit massive and i've gotten lost deep into it too many times, but I think this skips any sort of checks for the fire exit to generate in the dungeon?

[novel root]

If you try to enter the fire exit on a moon other than march does it say that the entrance is blocked by debris or collapsed in or something along those lines

[fiery radish]

Nah this wasn't on march it was on offense, fire exits have been working fine on the dungeon but yeah it gave the failure to generate message of being blocked, totally down to changing the FoundationLenghtOverride to a lower value as i've been playing with the dungeon in the group for a long time

[minor bay]

don't know if you figured this out already or not but you need to have mesh Read/Write on mesh import setting and apply

this is needed for DunGen to generate navmesh at runtime on those meshes

figured it out while trying to make my own tile set for lethal company with a friend which we will have one done soon

[peak quartz]

Hmm this is a task for badhamknibbs isnt it ? or is it a setting i can change in the configs? 🤔 im having these errors launching scpfoundationdungeon

[minor bay]

it is an asset thing in unity before bundling it shouldn't matter if those meshs aren't being used for
AI Enemy , Scrap Placement , or Hazards
so it might be a non issue

[peak quartz]

ahh alright! Thanks alot for the info i appreaciate it 😄 i had absolutely no clue so haha

[minor bay]

ye same here took me a day to figure out why enemies weren't moving and scrap was floating in the air lol

[peak quartz]

lmao typical coding id imagine 😄 xD interesting for sure

[minor bay]

[zealous pasture]

I've been reading since our last conversation Aluks and my brain explonato

This is so weird diffrent situations for everyone

[peak quartz]

XD ikr

it definitely is a mindfuck

[zealous pasture]

Me and my friends like for 4 hours try to fix this

[peak quartz]

i got a version to work tho with mp and interiors on wateridge/secret labs (fire exits will break upon second time entering moon im pretty sure xD)

[zealous pasture]

Yeah I read that

[peak quartz]

yeah i relate hard bro, used way too much time troubleshooting lmao

lemmeknow if youd like to try it yourself, can pm it 🙂

[zealous pasture]

Like the versions?

Of mods?

[peak quartz]

yeah the bepinex with the mods in it (i only use the bare minimum of mods)

mods with the versions i got to work*

[zealous pasture]

I'll try to do this tmr cause I'm in bed rn

[peak quartz]

alrightalright soundsgood 😄 hope it works for you and its not some weird shit where it only works on my pc lol

[zealous pasture]

Yeah me too

Wait so preety much the fire exits work on the 1st day, but on the 2nd day not?

[peak quartz]

Yeah to my understanding! i only tested one fire exit tho so im not sure if multiple will work first day

Also not sure if the fire exit will work again if you do a moon inbetween, but might be a possibility xD

[zealous pasture]

Atleast the main entrance works

[peak quartz]

yea true that 😄 and it worked 2 moons in a row

so should be a very not optimal temporary fix xd

and idk if i mentioned it but scoopysvarietymod also seems to work on wateridge (with the fireexit bugs ofc)

[zealous pasture]

Cause me and my friends we're like let's add some more mods to LC and now we're stuck in missery

[peak quartz]

hahahah relate XD

[strong frigate]

Very relatable

[minor bay]

also i would recommend having your own thread so you can continue chat about moon just put [WIP] Mod Name for thread

[peak quartz]

but seems like its mainly an incompatibility with the newer versions of LE, so id imagine all the other mods would work with it but ill test that later

[zealous pasture]

I just want for scoopys to work on vanilla it's fine, and scp interior on secret labs. We already made scoopys work.

Vanilla moons I mean

[peak quartz]

aah nice i see 🙂 but yeah scoopy should work on vanilla moons too, some other guy said that listing the moon names one by one with commas instead of typing "vanilla" made it work

[zealous pasture]

Huh interesting

[minor bay]

oh interesting

[peak quartz]

Yeah definitely interesting haha, everything is big confuse

[zealous pasture]

Alight im going to sleep bye

Aight*

[lofty canyon]

nothing about the setting should affect how fire exits spawn, is this with any other mods?

[fiery radish]

We only have a few that would possibly conflict, only thing I can think of is LethalExpansionCore but this is totally without LethalExpansion and we used it before any sort of changes to the settings, I've got a carefully curated pack that I test almost daily and play noting little differences with any mods that don't work with each other, this might just be an edge case but I wanted to report it as we've not had it before I changed the setting, feel free to have a look over the pack 018cdc18-1dc9-559c-6520-962165b5d9e4

[lofty canyon]

very likely LEcore

with the note that it's something happening after visiting a moon once that's causing anything LE to act up usually

at least from my testing

[inner acorn]

you can have both, just don't use custom interiors on custom moons

[lofty canyon]

even without them mixing there's still issues

cuz custom moons have to use existing moons to run on

[inner acorn]

so whats the fix for now can i have a quick recap please ?

[lofty canyon]

only real way to guarantee no issues is not having any custom interiors with LE (including core/otherwise)

or vice versa

[inner acorn]

i mean yesterday i had no issue by having custom interioirs only on vanilla moons, scp and scoppy were generating right, and i could play all custom moons on vanilla interiors

it doesnt work anymore or what ?

[lofty canyon]

the issues tend to be either A. only the host sees the dungeons, everyone else falls into the void, or B. fire exits breaking on subsequent visits for custom interiors

if you're lucky things might just work out, but there's never been any guarantee of compatibility

[inner acorn]

weird, i had the issue falling through the void when i had custom interiors on all moon, but as soon as i put vanilla in both scoppy and scp cfg files, i had no issues since

can anyone confirm that the "vanilla" command in scp cfg files work?

[lofty canyon]

dunno what you mean by vanilla command, if you mean just only vanilla moons in the config then the fire exit issue might still be present

for me at least I still get issues with LE on vanilla moons

[inner acorn]

i mean typing vanilla on the cfg of scp where you specify on which moon the interior can spawn

because it's not specified that the "vanilla" keyword is correct, unlike scoopy

[lofty canyon]

mine doesn't have that

[inner acorn]

huh?

[lofty canyon]

it doesn't support just putting vanilla as a moon config

[inner acorn]

u don't have this?

[inner acorn]

oh, so how can it be generated on vanilla moon on my games yesterday?

[lofty canyon]

yeah that won't do anything (unless there happens to be a moon called "vanilla")

[inner acorn]

because iim sure i got the scp interior on multiple vanilla moons using this yesterday

whithout any trouble even with fire exit

[lofty canyon]

that's quite strange given I don't handle that at all

                LethalLib.Modules.Dungeon.AddDungeon(SCPDungeon, LethalLib.Modules.Levels.LevelTypes.All);
                mls.LogInfo("Registered SCP dungeon for all moons. Compatability not guaranteed!");
            } else {
                string[] arMoonNames = configMoons.Value.Split(',', StringSplitOptions.RemoveEmptyEntries);
                LethalLib.Modules.Dungeon.AddDungeon(SCPDungeon, LethalLib.Modules.Levels.LevelTypes.None, arMoonNames);
                mls.LogInfo($"Registered SCP dungeon for the following moons: {configMoons.Value}");
            }```

[inner acorn]

very weird

so i should type every vanilla moon level by hand i assume

anybody have this already written maybe ?

[lofty canyon]

yeah, you probably want to exclude March though

[inner acorn]

uo @peak quartz you there

[echo dune]

(Sorry to keep hijacking your thread) if anyone with experience playing modded moons and dungeons here has issues with lethal company performance please let me know

i'd like to stress test something on lower end hardware

[inner acorn]

im not on a low end system but i sitl have dip under 60fps

[echo dune]

if you don't mind quickly zipping up your plugins folder for a minute, trying a new one it would be much appreciated 😄

i can dm you

[inner acorn]

@lofty canyon any chance that HideManagerGameObject set on true could affect this ? i think i had it on true

[lofty canyon]

no idea what that is

[inner acorn]

an option on bepinex cgf that affect multiple mod

[inner acorn]

too heavy bruv

[lofty canyon]

can't say I've ever tested or even know what the default is

[inner acorn]

HideManagerGameObject

If enabled, hides BepInEx Manager GameObject from Unity.
This can fix loading issues in some games that attempt to prevent BepInEx from being loaded.
Use this only if you know what this option means, as it can affect functionality of some older plugins.

default is false

[lofty canyon]

no clue if it'd affect anything

[inner acorn]

maybe worth a shot to look

anyway where can i find each vanilla moon true name?

[lofty canyon]

all vanilla moons' selectable level names are named "[levelname]Level"

you can see in the config description

[inner acorn]

what is tenebrous @echo dune ?

and i was saying that the zip is too heavy

[echo dune]

mmm fair

dw about tenebrous

not vanilla

[inner acorn]

but im dont think lost of fps is linked to your mod, i have bunch and play with hd lethal

[peak quartz]

yoyoyo

[peak quartz]

i iz here

[inner acorn]

yooo, so what's the situation rn how does your cfg look like?

[peak quartz]

yoo i got it to work on both host and player on my lan now 😄 i use LethalExpansionCore 1.3.6(debloated version), and put the modules from the OG LethalExpansion 1.3.6 into the same folder. And then i use Lethallib 0.9.0, hookgenpatcher 0.0.5 and the latest versions of SCPfoundationdungeon and secret labs 😄 (and i use scoopysvarietymod aswell)

i can send you the zip file if you want 😄

took way too long to figure out but finally it works lmao, but im pretty sure there will be other bugs as its lethalexpansion 1.3.6

[inner acorn]

yea thx why not, nice work tho

and what about if only want the cusotm interioir on vanilla moons am i good?

[peak quartz]

Yeah i think you can write each individual moonname in the config, ive heard that using the "vanilla" tag doesnt work for some reason lmao

but if you write VowLevel, TitanLevel etc i think itd work

ill send you the zip on dm 🙂

[golden venture]

ExperimentationLevel,AssuranceLevel,VowLevel,TitanLevel,RendLevel,DineLevel,OffenseLevel,

[golden venture]

@tawdry aspen unfortunately i tested with two lan clients and even on main enterance the 2nd client fell through the map only the host can play the level with LethalExpansion and SCP foundation mod

they are not compatible at all

even with scoopy variety mod same issue

it loads the original level

the other client has the actual level

[strong frigate]

me too please

[inner acorn]

onn a vanilla moon ?

[golden venture]

no its only broken in modded moons

[golden venture]

here is a image from scoopy variety mod with two lan clients host can see and load level, 2nd player cant see or load level same happens on scp level just dont have screenshot

map is Castle Grounds , Peach's Castle

both screenshots are taken in real time

[stray estuary]

make sure the config is the same for all clients, had the same issue and that solved it

[golden venture]

bro im running the game locally

?

botth clients are me

how could the files be different

the game is ran through a shortcut

[stray estuary]

i looked at the screenshots and didnt really read through, mb

[golden venture]

no problem

i dont think there is a fix for this problem

it works for me on every modded level as host

but with players it breaks for the other players

works fine on vanilla moons atleast

[stray estuary]

modded moons are all buggy af so that doesnt really surprise me, i havent dove too deep into em personally so im no help

sorry

[golden venture]

it will be fixed in the near future when IAmBatby releases his mod

the one that supports LethalLib instead

[lofty canyon]

yeah lethal expansions' method of custom moons is severely incompatible with how custom dungeons are implemented rn

[inner acorn]

yoo, what about the mesh read/write thing you guys werer talking about?

[lofty canyon]

the mesh readwrite stuff was a problem on my end, it'll be fixed in next update

pretty sure the only problem is that enemies won't enter the 914 room

[inner acorn]

oh i though it was a setting that we should enable or smth

and that's normal that when scp is generated on experimentation (for exemple) u can't use the fire exit right? @lofty canyon

[pallid sierra]

did you ever figure out what could be causing this? ive been running into it too

[lofty canyon]

if you're using lethal expansion it's expected

[inner acorn]

and what about MapSizeMultiplier, what do you recommend ?

[lofty canyon]

otherwise fire exits should work on any moon, though march doesn't work 100%

[lofty canyon]

-1 uses recommended value (balanced around Titan, which is 8). You can turn it down if you think the foundation generates too big, or turn it up (don't go too crazy though) if you're only using it on cheaper moons

I've found 6 to be good if you're wanting a small foundation on Titan, and for maps like Experimentation turning it to about 10 or so makes sure it doesn't generate a single hallway

[inner acorn]

i was talking about lethal enpension MapSizeMultiplier, but what about a good average to use for every vanilla map?

for FoundationLengthOverride

[lofty canyon]

I think 8-9 is generally good for all vanilla moons, though might have some weirdness on stuff like experimentation

[inner acorn]

thanks, and what about MapSizeMultiplier for lethal expension? should i change it ?

[lofty canyon]

assuming it works like basegame map size multipliers, 2.35 is what Titan is and what the mod is based around

[echo dune]

what number is this

like how is it being used

[lofty canyon]

dungen min/max length value

I just set the value to the same for both

[echo dune]

🤔

[inner acorn]

btw, any issue by using you mod with scoopy, lethal exp, AND coomfy dungeon? @lofty canyon

[lofty canyon]

same issues with lethal expansion as usual, I don't think there's any compat problems with coomfy but could be wrong

scoopy should be fully compatible

[golden venture]

@lofty canyon do i need a , after the last level input ?

from the description it didnt seem like i do

[lofty canyon]

pretty sure it doesn't matter

[golden venture]

i didnt test the last map but ik the other once works

is there a preset to set it to all vanilla maps except march ?

[lofty canyon]

not atm

[golden venture]

would be nice to have

[lofty canyon]

will prob be in next update

[golden venture]

just name it vanilla

and mention in description March is excluded and why

[inner acorn]

yo quick question, why some of the skins in your pack look cclean when looking at the png, but ingame its awful?

[golden venture]

i didnt make all the skins and im not sure why that is i guess its just the original model of the game being bad and not supporting those type of texture quality

[wooden zealot]

does anyone know of any mods that stop both the dungeons from spawning? (Have lethalexpansion uninstalled)

[paper condor]

both dungeons? do you mean like they're overlapping?

[wooden zealot]

sorry, scoopys and scp have stopped spawning for me but I haven't really changed my own modpack much

I recently uninstalled LE but that shouldn't be a problem yea

[paper condor]

you can tweak what maps and chances of spawning the two dungeons have in their config

[wooden zealot]

I felt like id see one like every other day a couple days ago but now seen neither in 50+ days of 100 weight each

[paper condor]

You can also turn on the guaranteed spawning to see if it’s your game or just the luck

[final ruin]

I have the dungen asset, does anyone know how it's seems to be configured in lc ?

[zealous pasture]

Wym by that?

[final ruin]

I have the asset (paid not extracted dll) but I haven't had time to look at it in detail. I wanted to know if anyone knew how it was configured for LC such as the fact that the dungeon is on several floors, the number of room assets used etc.

[zealous pasture]

@peak quartz you online? I would want you to send me the files if you can.

[zealous pasture]

NANNAHSNDA

WTF

IT WORKED on the 2ND DAY

wow

wait is it like

if I set it to 300 precent its still like not guranteed to spawn the dungeon?

bcs on th 1st day

the fire exits were broken even when the dungeon dint spawn

[untold cairn]

There's a separate option that makes it a guaranteed spawn.

[zealous pasture]

yeah ik, but what I mean is its still not guranteed to spawn even if the precentage is set to 300? Since I dint get the dungeon on the 1st day, but did on the 2nd day even when the precentage was set to 300.

I think its the case here bcs I dint get the dungeon on the 3rd day

either

[lofty canyon]

the value isn't a percentage it's a weight, at 300 it's roughly a 50/50 chance

[zealous pasture]

oh ok

this makes sense ig

And yeah some of the fire exits on SC labs ar broken

[feral flame]

fire exits will be jank with LE

[zealous pasture]

Ik

[zealous pasture]

Anyways my friends are still falling trough the floor

[wise relic]

same problem

using custom moons?

[zealous pasture]

yes

[zealous pasture]

does this problem also appear in vanilla moons?

[final ruin]

if you have lethal expansion

and/or your friends dont have the same config settings as you

they will fall through the earth into the depths of hell

[zealous pasture]

I guess its the same with scoopys variety mod aswell??

[lofty canyon]

yep

[zealous pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[lofty canyon]

LE breaks interior mods

[zealous pasture]

yeah I just wont use LE

the SCP interior on top

[exotic hinge]

i just wonder what changed that broke it since only 2 weeks ago it was all working fine with LE and all the custom interior mods

[timid quiver]

LE updated the way it load moons on 1.3.9, there are ways to make it work again on vanilla moons but not on custom ones

[hard gale]

what about LEcore

[lofty canyon]

still breaks

[hard gale]

what about it breaks?

[lofty canyon]

depends on version, usually either breaks fire exits if you're lucky or everyone except the host falls through the world

[hard gale]

ohh thats the issue

the features LE adds are for custom scraps and moons right?

[lofty canyon]

yeah

[hard gale]

alr bet i dont need it

I thought these mods actually needed LE 💀

[untold cairn]

Funny how initially I preferred LE over LL. Now I hope that LL updates and people will switch over to it.

[hard gale]

what is LL?

[lofty canyon]

lethallib is getting custom moon support soon which will work with custom interiors

[hard gale]

oh lethallib

ok

nice

ty for the ingo guys

[final ruin]

I know the secret labs moon creator said they will port it whenever they can

[hard gale]

btw will these mod eventually add fire exits?

[final ruin]

my discord is glitching

[lofty canyon]

once the moon module gets moved over I'll probably make secret labs moon a default and have a specialized flow for it

[final ruin]

they have fire exits

[lofty canyon]

lethal expansion breaks fire exits as well if they aren't appearing for you

[hard gale]

was that an isue with Lethal E then
?

[final ruin]

yes

[hard gale]

oh ok

lets go

one of my friend really hated these things happening so now he can enjoy the mod

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-gaming-gamer-dance-jig-jiggy-gif-16548737736878595145

[lofty canyon]

yeah a shame that lethal expansion causes a lot of issues for custom interiors which has resulted in a lot of people asking why things break

LE has a compat checker as well iirc so I dunno why SCP facility/Scoopys hasn't been put there to let people know they don't work together

[hard gale]

yea

for me modded interiors are the bread and butter of modding, new moons are no that intresting because all your doing is going back to the same facility. Just harder

these mods actually add variety

[ocean prairie]

So, I need a TLDR version here, but through skimming, am I assuming that LethalExtension won't be the main dependent mod for SCP Facility anymore?

If so. (YES!)

[lofty canyon]

if you mean lethal expansion, it's never been dependent on it

[ocean prairie]

I did mean Extension. Then again, I'm forever confusing the two mods from each other 😅

[final ruin]

extension was just another interior mod that was renamed to scoopy’s variety mod

[lofty canyon]

well extension has never been dependent either

[hard gale]

does the map work on march due the 3 fire exits?

oh nvm I see the problems might occur

if more than 1

what are all the vanilla moons with more than 1 fire exit?

[lofty canyon]

just march

[hard gale]

ok would this config be fine?

TitanLevel,RendLevel,DineLevel,OffenseLevel,VowLevel

[lofty canyon]

and afaik it technically works, just that 2 of the 3 fire exits will give you the blocked message

[hard gale]

oh ok

[lofty canyon]

yeah that looks fine

[hard gale]

ok thanks, so it wont spawn on, exp, assurance, and march correct?

[lofty canyon]

yep

[exotic hinge]

nah it still desyncs with 1.3.8

[gritty girder]

I'd recommend LethalExpansionCore 1.3.6 and see if that works, the main LethalExpansion dependancy has so much bloat and has so many compatibility issues

[exotic hinge]

til theres lethalexpansioncore

[lofty canyon]

Lethal expansion core still breaks

[gritty girder]

Rip

[lofty canyon]

Problem is fundamental to how it handles custom moons

[zealous pasture]

Already tried my friends are still falling👍

[hard gale]

does this mod have the apperatus?

[final ruin]

no

[dense apex]

Is everyone using LethalExpansionCore and the same mods and config?

[golden venture]

its not posible to use it on modded moons only vanilla/base game moons

it works for the host

but not the other players

[hushed helm]

Will there be custom mobs in the future like https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1182523433221902376

In the future

That will be interesting to see

Or reskin of the mobs only if u get the scp dungeon

[final ruin]

Yeah like reskin the coilhead to scp 173

[zealous pasture]

Yeah

[dense apex]

Could you get me a copy of the mods/configs you're using (either an export from r2modman or a list of the mods with their version and a copy of the config folder)? And which moon does it happen on?

(I made LethalExpansionCore btw, trying to look into the issues people are having)

[zealous pasture]

I'm not home rn sorry

[dense apex]

No worries, you can send it whenever you have time

[inner acorn]

what's the real percentage value for FoundationRarity at 300? 50% like scoopy ?

[zealous pasture]

Yes

[zealous pasture]

Anyways

Everything that is mentioned here

[inner acorn]

really ? i feel its lower like scoopy always take the advantage and spawn more

[leaden pasture]

when I tested this kind of custom interiors on LE moons it worked (tried original, tried core, tried 1.3.6, all the jazz, but only worked on lan with my own clients lmao, the second I tried with my buds they fell through)

guess if we want stable mod interaction we just wait for lethalthings' implementation of custom moons and scrap

[zealous pasture]

And the configs for scoopys are not vanilla. I wrote each moon name like this: TitanLevel,DineLevel,OffenseLevel,(and the rest t1 moons)

For SCPdungeon Its set to guarantee and only to secret labs moon

Also no other additional modded moons were added other than secret labs except the ones that come with LECore

[red yarrow]

is there a way to choose which moons have a 100% chance to have the SCP Dungeon?
If there isn't, could there be an option in the config like FoundationMoonsList , but instead it decides which moons will have a 100% chance of the dungeon?

[inner acorn]

what do you mean scoopy are not wanilla.?

[zealous pasture]

Yeah same here. I hope one day secret labs and SCP dungeon together will be a thing😢

[inner acorn]

?

[zealous pasture]

Like

Uhhhm

CastleDungeonMoons config

I dint set it to vannila

[inner acorn]

why tho ?

because you dont want it on every vanilla moon?

or specific reason

[zealous pasture]

@peak quartz I forgot what was the reason can you explain him

?

[echo dune]

soons

[zealous pasture]

btw

Does scoopys fire exits break aswell with LE?

[timid quiver]

yes

[exotic hinge]

you absolute legend. ill try this later

[lofty canyon]

(give me some ideas for possible refine processes)

[fiery radish]

I have a few I can think of

Key <> Lockpicker
Axel <> Bolt/Sheet
Bottles <> DIY Flashbang
Flash <> Pro-F <> LaserPointer
Player > Death/TZP High/Heal?
Body > ???
Shotgun <> Shells
Stop <> Yield <> Shovel
Spraypaint <> TZP
Robot <> Apparatus
Cash Register <> ???
Gold Bar <> ???
Bee Hive <> ???

[lofty canyon]

a couple on the list are:
flash - [fine] > pro flash
tragedy < [one to one] > comedy
air horn - [fine] > clown horn

plus some player input interactions:
rough -> instant death
coarse -> 50% damage
1:1 -> change outfit
fine -> 2x stamina for remainder of moon
very fine -> a secret :)

it might also include a config to have custom item conversions for mod support

[paper condor]

Super cool stuff here!! How do you think this’ll work with other players in the lobby? It’s been a thing lately where people have been having host sync issues in their servers

[lofty canyon]

Should be fine, only host sync issues I know of are caused by either LE or mismatched configs

And config sync might come with the move to LLL

[paper condor]

Gotcha, can’t wait for this, my friends will love it

[lofty canyon]

I also think the custom 914 config should be implicitly synced

[tall jetty]

what abt luring monsters inside of it? at least coilhead

[sinful cloak]

anyone know non host kept falling in this map?

[lofty canyon]

Lethal expansion is the problem

[lofty canyon]

I think the first version will only have item and player interactions, then enemy interactions later

[sinful cloak]

isee

[dense apex]

Just a heads up, I have fixed the fire exit issue for LethalExpansionCore and I think I have a solution for the server not recognizing you are in the dungeon (which caused mobs to ignore you, lighting to strike you inside and whatever else it might have done) just need to do some more testing. This means the next update should be fully compatible with dungeon interiors*. I hope to have the update released today and I will let you guys know when I do

* No one has been able to provide reproducible circumstances for the falling into the void on LethalExpansionCore so until someone does I will put it down to a LethalExpansion exclusive issue, differing configs between the server and client or some other mod having weird interactions

[paper condor]

yeah i was just about to come back to say there should be more risk conditions like maybe an enemy coming out or something !!

[tall jetty]

decided to update and test out lethal expansion
cant even route to moons with it enabled anymore

nvm it was probably just core, disabled it and the issue went away
might have to do with it not being updated to the newest version and me being a dummy

teehee

with only LethalExpansion enabled

Ah nvm, i saw the update 1hour ago and thought it was the one fixing the issue, must've misread sorry

[dense apex]

It's out now (version 1.3.7), hopefully that solves all the remaining issues 🙏

I tested it on secret labs, orion and aquatis, if it doesn't work on some other moon let me know

[red yarrow]

Shovel - Rough > Nothing (destroyed)
Shovel - Coarse > Toy Hammer (Lethal Things Support)
Shovel < 1:1 > Shovel
Shovel - Fine > Stop Sign
Shovel - Very Fine > Nothing (destroyed)

Walkie - Rough > Nothing (destroyed)
Walkie - Coarse > Old Phone
Walkie < 1:1 > Walkie
Walkie - Fine > Walkie (recharged)
Walkie - Very Fine > Boombox (35% chance of destruction instead)

Flashlight - Rough > Nothing (destroyed)
Flashlight - Coarse > Laser Pointer
Flashlight < 1:1 > Flashlight
Flashlight - Fine > Pro Flashlight
Flashlight - Very Fine > Homemade Flashbang (60% chance of destruction instead)

Homemade Flashbang - Fine > Stun Grenade

Dead Body - Very Fine > Revival of that player (50% chance of destruction instead)

[polar yoke]

body - [any] > masked enemy
shovel < [one to one] > stop sign and others

[feral flame]

Jar of pickles - Any > Hoarding bug

[fallow ether]

You should add the scp lightbulb that takes all of the light away

[polar yoke]

if you're doing mod compatibility with it, then
toy hammer (lethal things) - [very fine] > enraged jester (90% chance of destruction instead)
toy hammer (lethal things) - [coarse] > clown horn
maxwell (lethal things) - [rough/coarse] > evil maxwell

[polar yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/shoebill-nah-no-nope-gif-26359978

[fallow ether]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sign-cant-stop-me-no-one-can-stop-me-gif-13921932

[inner acorn]

thanks for this, so what's the point of using your mod vs the og lethal expension since it also got updated today?

[dense apex]

Well the mod is reduced to the very core, it removes everything which is not necessary and just keeps the support for LethalSDK (which is what is used to make moons and scrap), this means the mod is much more compatible with other mods

[inner acorn]

oh isee, but does the og lethal expensioin mod fixe the same thing as you in the new update ? (mob bug, lighting inside, falling through ground ?)

[dense apex]

In short no, they tried to fix it but had to revert the change (it's being tracked under this issue https://github.com/HolographicWings/LethalExpansion/issues/20), their fix also did not do anything to custom moons (only fixed wateridge), I made sure my fix would work with all the existing ones without them having to update

[inner acorn]

im talking about today update not yesterday

[dense apex]

Yes

[hard gale]

just an idea for the future, you know how a lot of monsters are based of SCPs, it would be cool if you added the reskinned monsters as SCP varients but only for this interior/dungeon. For example there is the SCP173 coil head mod, it would be cool if you could use it, but its only used on this interior

if that makes sense

[timid quiver]

Does your fix work if I still have LE installed but overriden by LECore?

[dense apex]

It should, that's how I tested it at least 😅

[timid quiver]

Amazing, thank you!

[inner acorn]

could you explain the purpose of LethalExpansionCoreModules pls @dense apex ?

[dense apex]

It just contains the default modules provided by LethalExpansion though they are a bit outdated so just using adding LethalExpansion as a mod would be better, it was made before LethalExpansionCore automatically disabled LethalExpansion

[inner acorn]

what are these "modules" im not very familiar with this

[dense apex]

The wateridge moon and scrap LethalExpansion adds by default

[inner acorn]

thanks, an other quesiton, if i use lethal expension and your core, can i still have settings that LE add like "prevent mine to explode with object" ? or is it disabled by your core

[dense apex]

Everything from LethalExpansion is disabled

Don't know if there's a mod for that feature but I know some of the features are implemented by other mods

[inner acorn]

never saw one for the landmine object explosion but i can play without it

dumb question but when you launch the game with lethalexpension the cmd displays compatibility with other mods, but all of those which are not recognized will not have a "not compatible" line if they aren't am i right? @dense apex

sry if its not clear

[dense apex]

Yeah but LethalExpansionCore removes those messages entirely, they shouldn't show up at all

[inner acorn]

i was just talking about LE alone, that mean that i could have compatibility issues with some mods and that its not indicated, didn't know

[dense apex]

Yeah, that list is maintained manually by the creator of LethalExpansion

[inner acorn]

good to know, im testing my list with LEC and it seem that modded moons now work with custom interiors, at least on local LAN, nice work dude !

[fickle sky]

why everyone say shit breaks with LE? like i cant add new moons without that mod so how are you guys running it non broken?

[inner acorn]

its the custom interiors on MODDED moons that don't work with LE

your fine without custom interiors, some issues but at least you will not fall trhough the floor as a client

[fickle sky]

custom interiors? so like the scp dungeon?

[inner acorn]

yes

[fickle sky]

so how do i use that with the scp moon

[inner acorn]

by adding the new update of Lethal expension core by joakim that came out today

[fickle sky]

so just updating LE on the mod manager or is it another mod all otgether?

[dense apex]

Another mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/jockie/LethalExpansionCore/

[fickle sky]

ty ty

hopefully i can get expansion to work i manually remove the other two maps every time their trash

[inner acorn]

does your mod work good with coomfy dungeon?, because it was needed to enable a setting for compatibility in LE to work, but since i use your core i can't use the patch of LE right ?

therefore coomfy is not compatible?

[dense apex]

I was using it when I was testing and I didn't notice anything off, the core mod probably removed anything which made incompatible but if you find any issues let me know

[inner acorn]

how dare you waterridge is verry cool

[inner acorn]

will do

[fickle sky]

lol i only need the mod to run other shit i like the base ones it comes with i distaste

[dense apex]

the core mod removes it all for you :D

[fickle sky]

theirs only like 3 base moons that have the games real art style n no need for mods or to remove fog to make them look better

[fickle sky]

how so?

in config??

[inner acorn]

the map Ether is insane btw

[dense apex]

by default the core mod does not load any default modules, you have to enable them in the config if you want them

[inner acorn]

oh soo i can activate the setting for landmineExplosionObject in the cfg of the core?

[dense apex]

Only modules like wateridge, doesn't work for settings from LethalExpansion

[fickle sky]

gonna download if its trash imma at u for everything dumb on here lol

[fickle sky]

where do i find that i go in the config on r2 the core module dont pop up

[dense apex]

start the game once and it should pop up

[fickle sky]

so that config in the game

or the one in r2?

[dense apex]

r2

but the mod needs to load for the settings to appear

[fickle sky]

i did what is the config called i tried lethal expansion when i search n core n the whole name the config isnt coming up when i search definetly started the game with it on

[dense apex]

com.github.lethalmods.lethalexpansioncore.cfg

[fickle sky]

do i need this as well?

i just downloaded the core

[dense apex]

That's if you want the default modules from LethalExpansion, the ones which contain wateridge

[fickle sky]

ew no ok

[dense apex]

Like I said, disabled by default

[fickle sky]

where do i turn on the other moons

i got the config on which option

[dense apex]

From other mods? you don't need to do anything for that (they are always enabled), it's just the default ones that you can enable if you want them

[fickle sky]

so i have no need for the config then? no need to touch it

[dense apex]

Shouldn't have to touch it yeah

[fickle sky]

it said it loaded them anyhow even tho i dont have that other mod

[dense apex]

It loads the modules but doesn't add any content from them, otherwise you might get missing textures on some moons

[fickle sky]

on infernus map i cant find the door to even go in, any ideas?

[inner acorn]

anyone know if the moons name shown on the cmd when launching the game is the real internal name?

[inner acorn]

infernus? link

[fickle sky]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Magic_Wesley/Infernis/

awesome looking map could never find the door to go in lol

im on if ur down i got a code

[polar yoke]

how does that relate?

[inner acorn]

I will play later but maybe i will try this map il tell you if i find it

[south charm]

so if i want custom interiors to work on modded moons should i switch to the core and modules version of LE and that’ll make people stop falling through the floor? or did todays LE update fix that

[inner acorn]

you need LECore for modded interior on modded moon https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/jockie/LethalExpansionCore/

[dense apex]

Don't think it fixed it, you can use core and set LoadDefaultBundles to true in the config if you want the modules from LethalExpansion

[inner acorn]

anyone know how much does 300 value correspond ingame if you set it for scoopy dungeon and scp, does that mean that there is ~50%scoopy ~50%scp soclose to no chance of spawning vanilla interior ?

[cedar slate]

ah I was wondering what mod did that

[lofty canyon]

If you have both mods at 300 it's a roughly 33% chance for each (+ a very tiny chance for the alt layout of a moon)

[inner acorn]

so 33%scp 33%scoopy 34% vanilla interior ?

what do you mean alt layout

[lofty canyon]

All moons except March have both layouts (facility and manor) possible, just that they have 1 which has a weight of 300 and the other at a weight ranging from 2 to 20

Alt layout is just what the wiki calls the layout which isn't at weight 300

[inner acorn]

oh yea, so this is approximatly right "33%scp 33%scoopy 34% vanilla interior" ? or 17% vanilla+17% vanilla manor, u get what i mean

[lofty canyon]

Pretty much, with vanilla encompassing both vanilla layouts

[inner acorn]

got it

[lofty canyon]

So 33 for modded interiors, 32.9 for the primary layout then the last bit for the alt

Roughly

[inner acorn]

and last question and i think im done, does the name of moons you see in the cmd when starting is the real internal name for every moons ?

[lofty canyon]

I just log the moon names that are listed in the config if that's what you're talking about, if they're wrong they'll log wrong

[inner acorn]

i speak about some modded moons that don't tell the internal names in the cfg, so can i find them by reading the names on the cmd when the game start

[lofty canyon]

No clue, only way to know for certain is checking source code if applicable

[inner acorn]

because it work for your mod so i assumed, or maybe that the file "-name-.lem" is the real internal name

[fiery radish]

Just wondering, what was up with the spray paint on the custom dungeon walls? Was trying it out today on both this and Scoopy with no luck, is that a known thing?

[inner acorn]

i had this bug even on vanilla interioirs for a while so if you find ping me pls

[fiery radish]

Huh we were fine using it on vanilla, honestly wouldn't be surprised if that was another issue with LE, we're also playing with BetterSprayPaint so it's more consistent with drawing

[inner acorn]

i think i had not LE installed when i had the bug, like the paint would not stick to any surface

[lofty canyon]

Yeah known issue with no real known solution, it's a bit of a mystery what spray painting does that causes problems

[maiden narwhal]

spraypaint has vanilla issues but no reason why it should be worse on custom dungeons tbh

or maybe maybe not idfk

i've had issues getting it to stick in the facility for sure and spraypaint is a feature from this update therefore it probly hasnt had the bugs sorted out

[inner acorn]

yo, i started the game more than once but i still not see the cfg for core in r2 why ?

[maiden narwhal]

hmm im thinking

if that mod is doing anything with the prefabs themselves

then the mod wouldn't work on custom dungeons then right?

just a thought. maybe try removing it and see if the spraypaint kinda-sorta works like it should

[fiery radish]

Huh yeah I'll see if that does affect anything tomorrow but Knibbs mentioned it was a known issue, which makes me think it might be a red herring :(

[lofty canyon]

Yeah it doesn't work with vanilla paint

Seems like there's just something custom assets are missing right now to support spray paint, it's on the radar but not super high priority

[fiery radish]

Yeah it's unfortunate, I swear the SCP lab is an absolute labyrinth due to the lack of verticality, I've got lost a good few times and met a coilhead 😅

[fickle sky]

i had it flawlessly spawn every time i went to scp moon, now wont ever show the dungeon even tho i didnt change any of the mods, any reason why?

[inner acorn]

is this the real internal names for modded moons?

[echo dune]

no

[inner acorn]

any way to find it easily if the author didn't specified it ?

[echo dune]

cant think of any

[inner acorn]

is this normal that some of the fire exit are tsill broken when you are already in and trying to go outside ? @lofty canyon

[lofty canyon]

Nope, probably lethal expansion/core

[smoky forum]

Why are my friends falling through the floor?

[echo dune]

probably lethal expansion/core

[smoky forum]

more company?

[inner acorn]

yo i just thinked about it, but what happen if there is a third custom interior that release, since its already 33% 33% and 33 vanilla, what happen for the new third custom interiors ? @lofty canyon

[inner acorn]

you need to use lethal expansion core to fix this issue on modded moons

[lofty canyon]

Either config mismatch or LE

[smoky forum]

oooh o

ok

[lofty canyon]

For now configs must be identical, might be fixed in the move to LLL

[smoky forum]

so if i have lethalexpansioncore and exact same configs then the mod will work?

[inner acorn]

oh if you are not using lethal expansion then yea its a config issue

[lofty canyon]

No guarantees with lecore but it seems like people are having more luck with it

[echo dune]

very doable with how i do stuff but i haven't looked into how config syncing works

[inner acorn]

if you are using lethal expansion, you need to also add LECore but you dont seem like you play on modded moons

what about this @lofty canyon #1183889212978778173 message

[lofty canyon]

Oh yeah if you don't have any modded moons just don't get the expansion/core

[lofty canyon]

Assuming all 3 are weight 300 then it's 25% each

And so on and so forth

[smoky forum]

So, I selected some specific moons for the scpfoundaitondungeon to spawn on then will my friends need to select them too?

[inner acorn]

ok so its adding on top of another, its not like when the chance of spawn are taken its full for a new one

[lofty canyon]

Yep

[lofty canyon]

Yeah that's why the game uses weighted spawning for everything

[inner acorn]

just do the config then share you profile code

[smoky forum]

how would i export a profile on thunderstore?

or get the code

[inner acorn]

options /profiles / export profil as a code smth like that, then they import the profil from their profiles menus

[smoky forum]

aight thanks

[dense apex]

which moon?

[inner acorn]

SCP on christmas event map

[dense apex]

which mod and version are you using that has the christmas moon?

[inner acorn]

the standalone version christmas with LE and LEC

also i jsut found out that if you die your game crash

gonna test on a other map

[dense apex]

this? https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/HolographicWings/ChristmasVillage_Legacy/

[inner acorn]

yea

[dense apex]

what's the name of the map for config

[inner acorn]

idk i used "all" for both scoopy and SCp at 300 chance each

[dense apex]

that works too

looks like a problem with the map

[inner acorn]

yea also if you die on it your game crash idk

[dense apex]

The entrances aren't setup properly so everything takes you to the main entrance

I think LethalExpansion broke something with their moons the last update

even after they reverted the change

maybe using an older version would work

[inner acorn]

just gonna remove the map for now its ok

[neat spruce]

So my friend got fully desynced on the ducky moon, falling through the scp dungeon and all, so I added lethal expansion core, but now I can't see mod settings.

We entered through the fire exit.

[lofty canyon]

Lethal expansion (core or otherwise) is unsupported and often causes problems

[neat spruce]

Alright

[pallid sierra]

quick question, is there a way to get the scp map to only spawn on vanilla maps? like could i list them like this in the config or am i reading it wrong? thanks!

[lofty canyon]

Yeah this is fine, might wanna remove the last comma (don't know if that matters though)

[pallid sierra]

okay cool tysm i love the atmosphere of this dungeon you did a great job with it

[lofty canyon]

Also don't forget to make sure everyone's config matches if you're doing mp

[pallid sierra]

yep got that covered as i usually send my friends my profile code. i appreciate the help!

[smoky forum]

will enemies getting stuck on doors be fixed?

[lofty canyon]

yeah trying to work that out

[smoky forum]

Will any new rooms and hallways be added to generations in future updates?

[lofty canyon]

yep, after 914 and the port to LLL the plan was to have the HC zone to split the dungeon

[smoky forum]

Awesome👍

[polar yoke]

LLL?

[echo dune]

#1193461151636398080

[dense apex]

what mod settings? the one on the main menu? LethalExpansionCore removes almost everything from LethalExpansion to be as compatible with other mods as possible

[vapid moss]

honestly, this isnt a bug nor an issue just an opinion, which applies to both currently released interior mods

the big turnoff is in my opinion the lack of scrap spawnpoints compared to the vanilla two

it always feels like when me and my friends enter these that almost always less scrap spawns (higher value for sure though)

so maybe if there were more nodes(?) where scrap can spawn, would fix the issue of it feeling either empty or too large

I have no knowledge of LC modding so I can only really give advice from a player perspective 🙃

[tall jetty]

i have both the core and main mod, having the same issue

same configs and all

[dense apex]

could you send the profile code?

and only ducky moon or some other one?

[tall jetty]

well i only set it up for secret labs and tested on it

018ce9a4-c8dd-e12d-2855-97755814f160

for some reason on the third try we synced

[dense apex]

restarting the game? or leaving and going back to the moon?

[tall jetty]

nvm

we didnt sync lmao, my guy sees a solid wall

he jsust didnt fall through the map..

[inner acorn]

Are you using backrooms mod?

[tall jetty]

nope

but we narrowed it down to more company i think

gonna test it later to confirm it

[static yarrow]

is it incompatible?

[dense apex]

far from confirmed, I just couldn't reproduce the issue but I also had to disable MoreCompany to test locally

[inner acorn]

On at least one Map yea (Starlancer)

[static yarrow]

Oh is that a custom moon

[inner acorn]

Ye, a nice one

[signal plank]

when i was testing last night without morecompany i was still getting the desync bug - weirdly enough not on lan though, only online with a friend. plus whenever we went to wateridge it would literally just take him to christmasvillage too (but thats probably a coremodules bug)

[tall jetty]

hmmm

it desynced on secret lab for me

[signal plank]

this was on a fresh install with just lethalexpansion+core+modules, hookgen+lethallib, scoopys/scpdungeon, and the moons we tested it on

secret labs did desync for us too

the thing that mainly confuses me is it being fine on lan but not online, unless you need to fiddle with core to have synched loading again and i just didnt do that

[dense apex]

Hmm, maybe the issue is just in online mode, which is annoying. I have never been able to test online mode

[signal plank]

another weird thing was that on lan there was still some minor desync stuff like a giant fucking pumpkin x3 the map being on wateridge for the connecting player and not the host lmao

but the interior worked at least

[dense apex]

If it is the case that LethalExpansionCore only breaks online I find it interesting that LethalExpansion consistently breaks on LAN as well

[tall jetty]

oh i had that online but a long time ago

before the droppod unloading fix

[inner acorn]

wait so if the testing done in LAN with LEcore and whithout MC work, that doesnt mean it will work in a real online game ?

[dense apex]

It seems like people are having that issue but I don't know if it's consistent, trying to figure it out

[inner acorn]

you want to test it rn with me ?

[dense apex]

aha, I think I understand the problem now. this observation was the key, thank you guys

[inner acorn]

?

[sour trellis]

Shotgun + Very Fine = Nutcracker (the shotgun comes loaded)

[inner acorn]

ok so after a real testing online, i can say that LethalExpensionCore did NOT fix the fell through the floor when entering cutom interior (scp and scoopy) on modded moon, neither with lethalexpansion alone @dense apex @lofty canyon @echo dune

weird thing is that its working on LAN testing with LEC, and not whith LE

[dense apex]

Yes I know the issue now, working on it

[neat spruce]

yes

[inner acorn]

I assume you already now but when it's working on Lan it's without More Company, maybe that's important

[dense apex]

MoreCompany has nothing to do with it, LAN vs Online was the problem, LethalExpansion had different handling for it

[inner acorn]

i don't get how the lan could affect it working on normal online

[tall jetty]

i have good news for you all secret labs fans

[inner acorn]

go on

[fiery radish]

I'm listening... Er reading

[dense apex]

he's testing the fix for LethalExpansionCore

[fiery radish]

I've not used core in a bit, is this the fix for the subsequent moon visit fire exit blocks?

[dense apex]

that should be fixed already

it's for non-host players falling into the void due to dungeon desync

[inner acorn]

exit seem to be fixed but the probleme is on custom interior on modded moons for clients

[fiery radish]

Correct me if I'm wrong, that was with custom moons using custom interiors with core right?

[inner acorn]

lmk if u need more help for testing

[dense apex]

yeah

[fiery radish]

Legendary, there was a couple moon mods I was up for trying but ultimately didn't want to because I knew the interiors were funky

[inner acorn]

u can still play them without modded interiors

[fiery radish]

Yeah that's true, I just really like Scoopy's and SCP, soon we'll have Hadal as well, ever soo thankful for the modders and their hard work

[untold cairn]

Interiors > Moons

No offence to any custom moon makers.

[inner acorn]

Both = best of 2 world, sooon hopefully thx to joakim

[inner acorn]

hadal?

[fiery radish]

I'm excited to see Taigon and More Moons once LLL is fully established, Generic Moons has been an eyecatcher too

[untold cairn]

Game has 9 moons and 2 interiors. I think we can live without moons for now.

Especially considering that most of the game is spent in interiors and most of the content is also there.

[fiery radish]

Underwater dungeon theme

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1191943294612156436

[inner acorn]

sure, but why not have both if possible

[inner acorn]

oh yea i heard about it, seem crazy

[untold cairn]

I'm not against that. All I'm saying is that new interiors are more importan IMO.

[fiery radish]

I like a good mix, right now I don't really touch Vow, Exp or V45 Titan cause I'm not fond of them, dungeons are definitely a big replay value hit, I feel SCP is in a really good spot excluding verticality and door jank right now, Scoopy's still has issues with turrets shooting through walls and lockpickers falling into the void

[lofty canyon]

as of the latest update the scrap spawn count lines up with what's expected, 1 or 2 might spawn in a ceiling which I'm working out but it's probably just map scale making it hard to find (which there's a config option for now)

[vapid moss]

ah okay

[untold cairn]

Is this quite stable when used without any custom moons?

[lofty canyon]

should be, only direct issues are scan terminal command not working and doors navblocking when they shouldn't sometimes

[dense apex]

I just released LethalExpansionCore 1.3.8 which fixes the desync issue in online mode

[untold cairn]

Is scan not working a limitation of LL?

[lofty canyon]

Don't think so unless scoopys also doesn't work

[sturdy imp]

hello, i posted an issue on github a few moments ago. it would be appreciated if you could check it out. i didn't know exactly where to post it 💀

[echo dune]

just a heads up, a new update to the basegame lethal company just dropped, it might be a little until things are fixed 🙂

[sturdy imp]

i also posted almost the thing in #1174678494417010718 for scoopy

oh you're right

[lofty canyon]

Saw that, not a bad idea, though after the move to LLL the fire exit problem might be a non issue anyway

[sturdy imp]

What is LLL and what is the fire exit problem? 😅

[lofty canyon]

The problem with March is multiple fire exits hence why it's recommended to not include it, but lethal level loader (LLL) has mentioned fixing that

So after I move this over to it it's fine to use on stuff like March

[sturdy imp]

Is that why you lose a lot of fps on march?

[lofty canyon]

Nah the issue is the dungeon currently generates only 1 fire exit vs the 3 on March

[sturdy imp]

Oh but my biggest concern is the performance 😅

I thought because march is large by itself so the dungeon generation will also be large is why i lose a lot of fps with custom dungeons

[tall jetty]

zeekeers broke the generation of custom dungeons on custom moons, now it only works if you reload the lobby

[echo dune]

huh

[lofty canyon]

That'll happen with updates, just got to work so will be a while before I can start resolving

[tall jetty]

its an infinite load unless you restart the lobby

then it starts working just fine

i've contacted the LE dev abt it already

[echo dune]

if you can replicate it could you send me a log from %AppData%/LocalLow/Zeekers/LethalCompany?

[tall jetty]

but no idea whose mod is actually breaking

[echo dune]

curious

[tall jetty]

oh yeah it has a 100% replication rate, wait a couple mins and ill do just that

[exotic cobalt]

Tysm for the compliment! 💙
The incompatibility between Starlancer and The Backrooms should be fixed now. I had moved the location of the level generation root early on trying to fix the "weather audio occurs inside" bug, then when I found out the actual issue I forgot to move it back to the default location

[tall jetty]

ok i cant actually find a single log there but i can make one with r2modman? will that suffice?

[sturdy imp]

Wouldn’t guaranteed dungeon blacklist be a temporary fix for LE desync? This way the user can blacklist some moons and keep some moons without custom dungeons for some diversity.

[tall jetty]

well it only works with a whitelist to start with

[dense apex]

Interestingly custom dungeons seem to be entirely broke on the default moons but only broke the first time on custom moons

[sturdy imp]

wait even the guaranteed option applies to the whitelist only?

[dense apex]

LECore fixes the desync issues

[tall jetty]

yup

whitelist is where
chance is how often

different options

[sturdy imp]

Wait fr? 😂

[dense apex]

yeahh

[sturdy imp]

Hmmm interesting ty guys

[inner acorn]

the update fix the falling through floor on modded moon?

[echo dune]

How?

[dense apex]

https://github.com/LethalMods/LethalExpansionCore

[dense apex]

yeah

[inner acorn]

youre a genius

[sturdy imp]

Oh damn you’re the author. I didn’t realize. Ty

[dense apex]

no problem no problem

[silk shuttle]

how to configure scp dungeon spawn rate?

[polar yoke]

the config

[silk shuttle]

its not showing up on the config in thunderstore

[silk shuttle]

unless im blind

[polar yoke]

have you scrolled?

[silk shuttle]

yes

thats the bottom

and top

pretty much

do i need to run the game first?

ima try that

[polar yoke]

yes of course you do

[silk shuttle]

lets see

[silk shuttle]

worked ty

[hushed helm]

Not working in v47

[inner acorn]

custom interiors on modded moon is working rn

[open agate]

also for scoopy?

[rough hamlet]

v47 broke my dungeon

[paper condor]

are you on a modded moon? cause mine works fine on titan

[inner acorn]

yea i add scoopy dungeon on v.47 with modded moon, not sure i played on SCP, you need the last update of LECore tho

[open agate]

cool thanks

[inner acorn]

just tested more and some modded moons get u stuck in the generating seed screen since the v.47 update, might be the author that need to update theirs map

but on atlas abyss moon i got the scoopy dungeon to work with no pb

[lofty canyon]

Might just use this as an opportunity to move everything over to LLL before adding 914

[inner acorn]

914 ?

also am i the only having an issue where you land first day on modded moon, go back in orbit, and its instantly deadline and u get eject'ed

might me more company 1.7.4, wasnt happening an hour ago with 1.7.3, or just some map that bug the deadline

[fair quiver]

I have a question! Do you think adding a SCP-087 (Staircase) would be a good idea?

More of a suggestion then a question 🧠 ❌

[lofty canyon]

Not sure how well it'd work given the reset trigger that's pretty close to underneath the dungeon, plus how the mechanic would work in general

[lofty canyon]

SCP 914

[fair quiver]

I see. Another question; do you plan to make any other dungeon mods?

Because dungeon mods are my favorite sub-genre of mod. Better than moons because of it's procedural generation!

[inner acorn]

ok so after a bit of testing, the freeze on seed creation or instantly deadline after day 1 is not caused by more company

its only on specific modded moon, either you get stuck on the seed, or u can get through the seed generation but go straight to deadline when you launch the ship back in orbit, (tested on springfield and waterridge)

hope this can help @lofty canyon

[lofty canyon]

Maybe, though I'm more focused on both this mod and helping get documentation/resources out so others can make their own

[fair quiver]

Probably a good idea. Being a breeding ground for other mods is pretty amazing to see especially since your the center of it.
And for being the person I am here are the last few room ideas:

• Abandoned research office room
• Weaponary room
• Room with tons of cameras that keep eyes on the facility
• A storage room with tons of boxes that has increased% of loot

[fast shard]

So excited for 914 to work, going to be so silly

[fast shard]

All the rooms in this mod are from an existing game, scp containment breach
Granted, the first three do exist in that game but the third is in Entrance Zone iirc and is basically a different tileset alltogether

[smoky forum]

is march broken with this mod???

[fast shard]

Shouldn't be, can you be more descriptive of your issue?

[smoky forum]

When I load into march with the mod the game freezes on the seed screen, but without the mod It works

[paper condor]

im pretty sure the fire exits on march break all modded dungeons

[smoky forum]

its just weird cuz it was working yesterday

imma just disable march from custom maps

[hybrid garnet]

I get this error when I try to land on Titan and forcing guaranteed spawn. I just freeze in the "Random Seed" message and eventually crashes the game

Stack trace:
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::GenerateNewFloor>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<RoundManager::GenerateNewFloor>?-1938682430(RoundManager)
LethalLib.Modules.Dungeon.RoundManager_GenerateNewFloor (On.RoundManager+orig_GenerateNewFloor orig, RoundManager self) (at O:/github/LethalLib/LethalLib/Modules/Dungeon.cs:180)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<RoundManager::GenerateNewFloor>?2120592708(RoundManager)
RoundManager.GenerateNewLevelClientRpc (System.Int32 randomSeed, System.Int32 levelID) (at <e5d196f7ae794822b7da8ac9e3f5a4fc>:IL_016E)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::__rpc_handler_1193916134>(Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour,Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader,Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers.Handle (Unity.Netcode.NetworkContext& context, Unity.Netcode.RpcMetadata& metadata, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader& payload, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams& rpcParams) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_004E)
Rethrow as Exception: Unhandled RPC exception!
UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers:Handle(NetworkContext&, RpcMetadata&, FastBufferReader&, __RpcParams&)
Unity.Netcode.ClientRpcMessage:Handle(NetworkContext&)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour:__endSendClientRpc(FastBufferWriter&, UInt32, ClientRpcParams, RpcDelivery)
RoundManager:GenerateNewLevelClientRpc(Int32, Int32)
<LoadNewLevelWait>d__115:MoveNext()
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)

[Error  : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
Stack trace:
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::GenerateNewFloor>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<RoundManager::GenerateNewFloor>?-1938682430(RoundManager)
LethalLib.Modules.Dungeon.RoundManager_GenerateNewFloor (On.RoundManager+orig_GenerateNewFloor orig, RoundManager self) (at O:/github/LethalLib/LethalLib/Modules/Dungeon.cs:180)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<RoundManager::GenerateNewFloor>?2120592708(RoundManager)
RoundManager.GenerateNewLevelClientRpc (System.Int32 randomSeed, System.Int32 levelID) (at <e5d196f7ae794822b7da8ac9e3f5a4fc>:IL_016E)
RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__115.MoveNext () (at <e5d196f7ae794822b7da8ac9e3f5a4fc>:IL_0076)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)```

[lofty canyon]

I haven't updated for v47 yet if you're on that version @hybrid garnet @smoky forum

[hybrid garnet]

ohhh, was thinking due to previous messages that v47 was automatically supported. thank you for letting me know, i haven't tried your mod but i'm looking forward!

[hybrid garnet]

hopefully i get a ping for when mod is updated

[golden venture]

v48 get with the times

[lofty canyon]

There's v48 already?

[hybrid garnet]

yes...

[thorn atlas]

For anyone wondering, SCP Facility and LethalExpansion do work together somewhat (fire exits still break) if all players have the same config settings. Players falling out of the world is a result of mismatched configs from what I've seen

[golden venture]

it works with LE Core not LE

[lofty canyon]

probably won't after the next update

[thorn atlas]

Is there a reason for that, may I ask? I assume presumably because of the moving to LethalLevelLoader?

[lofty canyon]

yeah

[thorn atlas]

I know the people who make internal layouts probably don't really like LethalExpansion because of the amount of bugs it has inevitably caused due to being the first one to delve into modded moons, but I am worried that all the people currently actively developing moons for LethalExpansion is gonna cause a rift in the development community if the compatibility issues aren't solved and instead both devs just agree "eh, they're incompatible", ngl.

Not blaming you for using the one that suits the SCP Facility, of course, just a concern of mine ^^;

Just hoping that the LethalLevelLoader dev attempts to make LethalSDK modules compatible instead of forcing everyone to change to his system I suppose

[lofty canyon]

unfortunately it's kinda inevitable, lethal expansion just does its own thing and doesn't really try to be compatible with anything in the efforts to be codeless

LLL is trying to be as vanilla compatible (in turn also improving general mod compat) as possible

also LE is a notably restrictive especially with items and whatnot

[thorn atlas]

I getcha, I do feel the LethalExpansion dev has made good attempts to make compatibility fixes thus far, as someone who's been using them for a good bit now, but I can understand the frustration as someone who has done modding for other games before

[lofty canyon]

yeah, if it's any consolation basically every interior mod being unified under LLL means compat on the LE devs end might be easier to work out since before it was a per-mod solution deal

[thorn atlas]

True, if they can work out a solution for their SDK moons to load modded interiors properly, then it fixes compat with all, not just one

Just gotta be hopeful for communication because I genuinely love some of the modded moons like Orion and would hate to see them abandoned because the community switches gears to LLL

[lofty canyon]

if worst comes to worst and it's an either-or situation, it seems like porting LE moons to LLL isn't terrible so some people might host 2 versions for each modloader (not great but still)

[thorn atlas]

Yeahhh, and the key word is some people lmao

[lofty canyon]

and it's not like interior mods can really go to lethal expansion cuz it doesn't have any custom dungeon capacity yet

[thorn atlas]

Yeah, which is the unfortunate thing as well, I do feel LethalExpansion would have eventually worked out custom dungeon capacity, but LLL got to it first

[lofty canyon]

tbf I rushed hard on custom dungeons (kinda just to say I had the first but also cuz I really wanted to get the ball rolling on them) and lethallib already had some rudimentary dungeon implementation stuff while LE was only just getting moons

[thorn atlas]

And also, goddamn did you pick the literal best custom dungeon to implement

[lofty canyon]

everything just lined up in my head, both randomly generated exploration in spooky facilities with roaming creatures

and having all the room assets done (but god was getting them out of the proprietary format a pain in the ass) was helpful as I'm no modeller

[thorn atlas]

One mod I hope to eventually see is a way to make monster skin mods spawn multiple variants, both randomly and map dependent. Would love if Coilhead spawned in the factory layout, Weeping Angels in the mansion, and SCP-173 in the SCP map, for example

Like I love the SCP-173 mod but it replacing the Coilheads entirely means I won't use it

Cuz Coilheads are too cool as well

WAIT OMG THE MOD DEV ALREADY MADE RANDOM POSSIBLE

Why did I not know this

[golden venture]

? source

[golden venture]

what mod is this ?

[thorn atlas]

SCP173CoilheadSFX by raydenoir

[golden venture]

ah

thats a goated setting never noticed it

[thorn atlas]

Ikr

[dense apex]

I am talking to the dev of LLL to make sure at least LECore is compatibility, I think it would be a shame if we split the community already

[thorn atlas]

Awesome to hear. As long as LECore works I don't mind if the full extent of LethalExpansion doesn't, as long as I can load Orion happily

[lofty canyon]

a compatibility layer to convert LE moon data to LLL moon data as a separate mod also isn't entirely out of the question

though that's beyond my scope

[dense apex]

I really don't think that should be necessary

[thorn atlas]

Hopefully not, but yeah, that could work if all else failed

[inner acorn]

yoo, should i update to the last version of lethal expansion if i'm staying on LethalCompany v.45 ? Like when a mod say rework compatibilty for v47, does that mean that it became uncompatible with older version?

[inner acorn]

am i dumb or the fact that scoopy dungeon now have a dependency with LLL make that you can't use lethal expansion, therefore not play on most of the modded moons?

[strong frigate]

You are correct

[inner acorn]

So why the hell would scoopy add this as a dependency so early 🤷‍♂️ like he could have made a branch during thé Time other map get merged to LLL

[final ruin]

lethal expansion was never compatible

it is now just even less compatible

[inner acorn]

It was, with LECore i could play every modded moon with every modded interior without any problem on v45

[final ruin]

thats lecore

not le

and also

[inner acorn]

Bro

[final ruin]

did you play multiplayer?

[inner acorn]

To use LECore you need Lethal expansion 🤷‍♂️

Of course multiplayer

Are you telling that LECore IS compatible with LLL @final ruin

[final ruin]

I never said that

and I wouldnt know anyways

[inner acorn]

Then that's what i Said, custom interiors was compatible with LEC, therefore lethalexpansion too

[final ruin]

it was as compatible as it could be

it wasnt fully compatible though

not that it matters

just download the old version of the mod then

[inner acorn]

It matter in thé sense that now you can't use the last scoopy update on most of thé modded moons since he removed lethalexpansion

[inner acorn]

Yea but the old version IS not comptable with latest lethal company update no ?

[final ruin]

obviously not

[inner acorn]

So that Is really dumb then

Why rushing the change to LLL when most of the Map didnt get merged

That mean if you want to play on latest version of thé game you have to either not play with scoopy, or no modded moon, otherwise you stay on v.45, all of this because hé force us to use LLL to early

[final ruin]

because lll is better

[inner acorn]

Bro, seems like you dont get the point here juste read, i know lll is better

[strong frigate]

You have good points,

I’m with you

Too early

[inner acorn]

Exactly, like this only change break most of thé modded moon pack of people, juste leave us to chose for now

[strong frigate]

If you check LE core channel, they are working on a fix

[inner acorn]

Didn't know there was a Channel thx

[inner acorn]

On this discord ?

[strong frigate]

#1193705132081291275

@inner acorn

[inner acorn]

Thx sir

[hushed helm]

Did this mod update yet for v47

With the updated LLL

Wait im confused

Is there compability issue with Scoop and SCP?

[inner acorn]

yes not compatible for now since the autor of scoopy forced everybody to use LLL so early

LECore mod jsut made an update to make LLL and LE compatible again

[hushed helm]

But people in scoop said it compability im confused

Im not using custom moons

[inner acorn]

LLL is not compatible by default with Lethal expansion

and scp use lethal expansion so idk

[hushed helm]

Im not using lethal expansion

What

Scp isnt using lethal expansion

[inner acorn]

was talking about the moons sry

[hushed helm]

But this mod still need a update for v47

Getting frozen here

[inner acorn]

yes look like it

[tall jetty]

What happens if you quit the lobby then rejoin

[final ruin]

@hushed helm do you have scoopy’s variety mod and scp

[hushed helm]

Doenst work

[hushed helm]

Yeah

But this was a issue b4

Scoop update

For both plugin

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1194065958277480498

Is was that post

I just disable scoop

And still happen

Log without scoopy mod

[final ruin]

try disabling lethal level loader

too

[hushed helm]

I did

[final ruin]

nuh uh

[hushed helm]

I dsiable LLL firs tthing

B.c it disable all dependent

[echo dune]

It’s a current LethalLib bug iirc

[hushed helm]

Didnt they update lethallib?

[lofty canyon]

the update to v47/8/9 already broke the interior mods such that our individual changes would have broken LEcore support if we just solo updated anyway

[inner acorn]

scoopy dungeon is working fine rn with the lastest update of LECore

just so u know

[lofty canyon]

better to get everything unified now and the growing pains of that out of the way

[inner acorn]

eventually yea sure, sooner is better i assume

[lofty canyon]

in that case when I update to LLL SCP should also be compatible, since now we're both on the same architecture

[inner acorn]

i still have the issue off multiple days skipping at once when going back in orbit, or even straight to deadline from day 1, only on specific modded moon and its consistent, any idea what could cause this ?

[zenith oxide]

Yeah all moons + dungeons using LLL is better in the long run but I'll try testing with LECore to see how Scoopy's Dungeon and custom moons play off each other

[inner acorn]

seem ok during my test

[inner acorn]

tf i just set scp dun gen on everytime and it worked on modded moon ?

[hard gale]

is there a way to make the loot more commo

common

[inner acorn]

@lofty canyon seems like since all the updates if you dont set scp FoundationGuaranteed on true you never get it to spawn, any idea why?

[thorn atlas]

I've gotten it to spawn even with FoundationGuaranteed off, it just seems excessively rare for whatever reason

Will probably be fixed in the next update once LethalLevelLoader is compatible

[inner acorn]

yea looks like scoopy changed some things with update and make scp very very rare even at 300, also scoopy seems less consistent spawning at 300 too

[inner acorn]

what was you spawn chance for scoopy and scp when you managed to get scp interiro?

[thorn atlas]

I haven't used them simultaneously, it could be an incompatibilty

When I was using only SCP interior I got it to spawn occasionally at 200, though not frequently

And that was alongside LethalExpansion

[inner acorn]

not sure its incompatible since if u use both but set scp on FoundationGuaranteed on it work idk

[thorn atlas]

Yeah, so it may just be even more rare when using both

Since both are fighting for weight

[echo dune]

Scoopy uses LLL which hijacks the randomisation and because SCP is using LethalLib it may not be considered in that

[thorn atlas]

Hopefully this mod does something similar to Scoopy's in the next update when it uses LLL and lets you adjust the weight on a per-moon basis, would definitely help to be able to have it be guaranteed on moons like SecretLabs

[echo dune]

it will

Thats one of the big benefits of LLL

[thorn atlas]

Also

I have to ask

Batby?

[echo dune]

oh wow haha

[thorn atlas]

You're part of the tModLoader Discord too

[echo dune]

i do recognize that discord name

[thorn atlas]

Is this the same Batby? Lmaooo

Small fucking world

[echo dune]

it be like that

[inner acorn]

btw did anyone found a quick way to get all the internal names of moons that dont provid it ?

@thorn atlas

[thorn atlas]

Not as far as I know

Badham might have a solution though 😛

[lofty canyon]

config will be effectively the same for the initial transition version, might add per-moon in the one after

[echo dune]

for LLL planetnames should be a lot less picky, ill add a config option to dump them all in the near future though

[thorn atlas]

That'd be helpful

For modpack devs especially

as someone who is always the one who has to weave together modpacks for friends, your assistances are deeply valued

[echo dune]

oh also config syncing for planet stuff is near future too

ik how to do it just not #1 on the list

[thorn atlas]

Good, config syncing should help a lot with multiplayer issues since right now I effectively just have to send my entire config folder to other people

[inner acorn]

why dont u just use R2

[thorn atlas]

R2?

If you're referring to R2ModMan, it's cuz I don't really want to install something else that's just Thunderstore but more

[inner acorn]

huh? like u can also use thunderstore if u want but my point is that sharing your list trhough one of these will also share your configs

[zenith oxide]

yeah I like r2modman. very straightforward and it's really easy to sync with friends since they don't want to edit file structures/ .cfg files

[inner acorn]

can anybody manage to get scp spawning ? with fondationguaranted on true it never spawn anywhere i dont get it

[zenith oxide]

we likely need to wait for SCP to update to v47 when it switches to LethalLevelLoader, which should happen fairly soon

since Scoopy's dungeon also needed to update to v47 and both authors seem to agree it's needed moving forward

[inner acorn]

Yea it's gonna be smoother for sure, i was just annoyed that they push it so early since almost every modded moon still need Lethal expansion which IS not compatible with LLL

[zenith oxide]

LethalExpansion is not compatible, but LethalExpansionCORE is

since it removes the feature bloat of LE

[inner acorn]

Yea i know since a few houre LECore made an update to support lethal expansion + Lll

[echo dune]

I completely understand how you feel and it's been a big pain point in the process. At the end of the day some projects have to make the transition first

[zenith oxide]

Honestly the fact that we can transition at all and especially only two days after v47 is pretty great all around though

[inner acorn]

That's true we need to start Somewhere, at the end everybody should be happy

[analog crown]

Your insane. This blew my mind.

[lofty canyon]

very soon infact

1.5.0

• v49 compatibility
• Ported to LethalLevelLoader (with some generation tweaks and additional config options, multiple fire exit moons e.g. March are now supported)
• Added much more lighting to the start room
• Fix some navmesh issues in 914 room
• Additional navmesh tweaks to reduce occurences of scrap spawning in walls/in ceilings

(give thunderstore a min to refresh)

SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [1.5.0]

[zenith oxide]

hell yeah

[lofty canyon]

(do alert me if something explodes)

[zenith oxide]

I've been nonstop testing custom moons with scoopy so this'll get added in a sec too. Will notify if anything odd comes up!

[paper condor]

hey so does this fix modded moon to modded dungeon compatibility for clients?

[lofty canyon]

can't really confirm for any LE moons, if it works for scoopys it should work for mine though

and the LECore dev was working with Batby to have compat

[hybrid garnet]

thank you!!! can finally try it ❤️

[brave stag]

time to delete lethal expansion

[zenith oxide]

LethalExpansionCore is a suitable addon to it, since it turns off the bulk of LE's feature bloat and just provides maps with assets and scrap

[brave stag]

with that case

[zenith oxide]

I'm currently using LE+LECore+LLL and can load scoopy's on modded moons at the moment, pretty nice!

[brave stag]

no more fire exit problems?

[zenith oxide]

I haven't run into any though I haven't tested on march yet

from what I hear it shoooould be fine?

[brave stag]

so wait you have lethal expansion on?

just the debloat with it too

[zenith oxide]

yup

here's how it looks for me

took a bit of fiddling with reinstalling them but at the moment they've let the dungeon appear. rn it's not appearing but that's mainly from me messing with the config settings

[lofty canyon]

March (and any moons with unusual fire exit counts) should be handled now by the latest LLL update

[zenith oxide]

for clarification LECore literally just turns off a lot of the spawn rate changes/ moon+ dungeon generation/ random misc features of LE but keeps the core SDK assets available so moons with it as a dependency can still be used

since LE overwrites a lot of functions/ conflicts with a lot, so LECore just tells it to stop

[paper condor]

atm now im just trying to figure out the internal name to secret labs to start testing since "secret labs" isnt working

[lofty canyon]

That should be it