Welcome to Ooblterra! v2.0.0

[grim bridge]

the ol' shovel bug

wonder how batby's doing

[midnight sapphire]

Apparently it's not an issue with Batby?? I think

Wesley confirmed his scrap was just fucked due to his own issues

[grim bridge]

It likely isn't but as a programmer if I can blame the framework for my issues im going to do so

[midnight sapphire]

Fair

The day WTO is repaired is the day my modpack becomes a living hell (As if it isn't already)

@heavy siren

[obtuse raptor]

Approved

[grim bridge]

[midnight sapphire]

Omg hi Mack from OYH

[grim bridge]

huh I think she likes you

[harsh saddle]

So how do the Tesla coils interfere with electrical equipment?

Do they like send out signals that screw with electrical equipment?

[midnight sapphire]

I think she is, in-fact, d-[SPOILERS DETECTED, THIS USER HAS BEEN CARPET BOMBED /W ORANGE MAGIC BY THE OOBLS]

It got funnier with each iteration I had to keep on editing it

[grim bridge]

Alright, so, this requires a bit of explanation from WTO's source game. If you look closely at the model youll see two glowing orbs, one yellow and one indigo. On Ooblterra, these orbs contain magic, different types of magic depending on the color.

The indigo magic type allows objects to be picked up and held, that's what causes the rings to be suspended in midair and spin. The yellow magic is typically used to activate and deactivate objects, and does so by sending an electrical impulse to whatever is impacted by the magic bolt cast when someone uses it. The rings being suspended up in the air by the indigo magic are amplifying the latent power of the yellow magic, and creating a large electrical field that overwhelms any technology brought within to force it off

[grim bridge]

it's funny until the orange magic starts taking effect, anyway. then its horrifying

[midnight sapphire]

Nah, I'd win

[harsh saddle]

Ok

Sorry for the hypothetical here but if tulipsnakes were to hypothetically end up on ooblterra, would they adapt to the environment or die immediately?

[grim bridge]

ooblterra's air is about 84% dmt by volume. so the question is do they need to breathe actual oxygen

lethal company moons tend to have trees similar enough to earths that I assume their processes are similar

turn CO2 into oxygen, etc

ergo I also assume tulipsnakes need actual oxygen

so if so, yeah they'd likely hallucinate for a while and then die

[midnight sapphire]

The ice moons house dead trees, and Embrion lacks any trees at all

[grim bridge]

that is true, which is why I say if

I dont remember if the desert moons have them either

[harsh saddle]

Oh

Ok

[dull ore]

there's desert moons now?!!?!

[grim bridge]

assurance, offense?

I called those deserts but maybe thats inaccurate

[midnight sapphire]

Considering how fucked the natural entities in Lethal Company are, I wouldn't be surprised if the stronger tulip snakes adapt to Ooblterra quickly within a couple generations, considering entities like thumpers went from sharks to... thumpers, within 500 years

[dull ore]

oh no ur totally right

i havent played in ages

[midnight sapphire]

Zeekerss refers to them as desert moons, I think

Either desert moons, or wastelands

[obtuse raptor]

i don't think they have a name do they

[midnight sapphire]

The only moons that have official names are the forest moons (Aka Green Witches) and ice moons (Rend, Dine, and Titan)

[obtuse raptor]

is that even true

oh like the individual moons?

[midnight sapphire]

Yeah, Zeekerss' mentioned such in Patreon posts of his

[grim bridge]

its worth noting Ooblterra is extremely hostile to creatures that are not from it. Like "our bacteria will kill and eat your bacteria" sort of deal. Prot and Mack were extremely lucky to be able to stay there ||as long as they did|| (though hazard suits does genuinely help a lot), and more importantly the Moon Landing Creatures are extremely powerful to be able to sustain it

[midnight sapphire]

Artifice is a mix of forest & wasteland as Zeek said

[harsh saddle]

if the oobltarians were to become an invasive species on a different moon with the vanilla fellers, what exactly would happen?

[obtuse raptor]

artiface used to be snow or smth

[midnight sapphire]

So Experimentation is probably the said wasteland moon, since the two are brown, and the rest are desert, and the last just being amethyst, or desert if you're a nerd

[dull ore]

probably wouldn't be too different to human colonizing those planets tbh

[obtuse raptor]

did he actually cuz ik LLL has experimentation under Wasteland but that's something I made up

[grim bridge]

Oobl are extremely smart and resourceful, they are a very good analog to humans in this sense. they have language, weaponry, industry, etc. oh, and magic, too. so they'd probably be able to get them under control

[dull ore]

just with way more wildlife exploitation

[grim bridge]

^

yeah no they would most likely find ways to enslave the poor cryptids to their ends

[dull ore]

Oobls invented Pain Nexus Engines before they invented the steam engine

[harsh saddle]

i mean like, if they were to go to one of the base game moons, like titan or something

[midnight sapphire]

||Oobl's crippled-ass society:||

Old birds would probably curb-stomp them if they were to ever discover them

[grim bridge]

||Oh yes, all this being true if their society was still around||

[midnight sapphire]

They wouldn't, though

[harsh saddle]

oh wait a second

[midnight sapphire]

They don't leave the celestial bodies they're sent to, and I don't think any more are in production since Embrion has been abandoned

[harsh saddle]

fuck i mean if the enemies from ooblterra were to become an invasive species, not the people who used to be there.

[grim bridge]

Ahh

[harsh saddle]

my bad

[grim bridge]

depends on the creature

[harsh saddle]

just like all of them

or

the most common ones

[midnight sapphire]

Would the oobl enjoy working for the Company? Or would they have trouble since they can't use their indigo magic?

[harsh saddle]

idk

[dull ore]

lurkers would probably dominate pretty hard

[midnight sapphire]

Well, not really enjoy

Nobody enjoys it

[grim bridge]

Lurkers kind of would be the best fit

[midnight sapphire]

I mean like able to do the job

[dull ore]

like if a sample of a bunch of them were brought to a new planet lurkers would probably quickly become the dominant species. This is my conjecture but after the events of OYH they're kind of set to become the new dominant species as is

[grim bridge]

society wise, Oobl are extremely interested in the collective. defection/betrayal and such is a massive taboo for them, more than for humans. So essentially, "if their thought leaders willed it, they'd do it"

[midnight sapphire]

Que that one illustration I did of my oobl getting murked by a barber-

Like lambs to the slaughter

[harsh saddle]

do these go hard? Im making an emblem thing and these are some of the loading screens

[grim bridge]

with magic an oobl probably stands a very decent chance of meeting quota.

[dull ore]

i have not seen this that's funny as hell

[midnight sapphire]

And without?

[dull ore]

insanely hard (biased, i designed these areas)

[grim bridge]

Substantially worse. They are very large

[midnight sapphire]

Uh, let me find it... I don't have the original file anymore

[grim bridge]

red lighting 💚

but keep in mind even orange magic wouldn't work against half of lethal company's terrors

their single biggest advantage is being able to pick up scrap remotely

[midnight sapphire]

Ah here we go.

10-1: BLOODY LEAP TO SALVATION

[grim bridge]

Possession however is an interesting question

they wouldn't be able to possess, say a coilhead

but they could probably possess a spore lizard

and importantly, most LC monsters dont really care to attack each other

so if they managed to figure out possession on even the lesser creatures, they'd stand a pretty good chance

[midnight sapphire]

For balancing reasons probably

[grim bridge]

actually, a hoarding bug would be perfect for this. physically weak, but able to grab items

[dull ore]

HARD AS HELL

[midnight sapphire]

Only certain entities can attack each other because I assume it doesn't really affect the balance all that much

E.g. dogs and baboon hawks

[grim bridge]

Oobl scavenger teams would probably get in the habit of finding Hoarding Bugs and then possessing them to do all the collecting

[midnight sapphire]

Lazy bastards

Get these oobl some pikmin

[grim bridge]

it's how they were built ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Oobl invading earth would actually be extremely scary because i feel like they could possess human beings with little difficulty

[midnight sapphire]

They kinda remind me of HG Wells' martians in a way, due to their heavy reliance on technology, but in this case, it's magic

[dull ore]

if oobls got pikmin that would be awful LOL

exploitation to 11

[midnight sapphire]

TRUE

[harsh saddle]

who the fuck beartrapped my ooblterra!1!!!!!

[grim bridge]

now hang on a minute

those arent our beartraps

[dull ore]

yeah wtf lmao

[harsh saddle]

it's from code rebirth

[grim bridge]

copped our whole flow smh

[midnight sapphire]

I mean, ||Mack literally murked an fuckin' bear-sized oobl, and mind you the martians in the novel, despite Earth's harsh gravity to them, are strong enough to kidnap people, so this suggests that oobl on their own are weaker than these brain sacks with arms||

[grim bridge]

||To be fair, that Oobl was already in bad shape due to the literal war he was escaping from||

[midnight sapphire]

||I remember that, true, but it's still impressive||

[grim bridge]

||Oh no certainly. adrenaline can make us go fuckin crazy||

[dull ore]

||Oobl who's only reference for combat being orange magic bullets receiving the classic American beaten to death||

[harsh saddle]

speaking of which, me and a crew were on oobl, and we all fucking died because one of code rebirth's outdoor fellers fucking snagged every one of us because of the fog which they were hiding in

[grim bridge]

official developer comment: trolled

[midnight sapphire]

Who would actually win in a war against each other, anyway? The martians, or oobls?

(Mind you these guys have literal heat-rays)

[dull ore]

embarassed to admit i dont think anyone on the team has read the original story

[midnight sapphire]

Not surprised, the original novel is over a century old

[midnight sapphire]

Technically the truth

[grim bridge]

Most of Oobl technology is biomechanical, to be fair

facing a species that's extremely technologically advanced would prove difficult

again, a lot of their magic (their main weapon) suddenly becomes ineffective

[midnight sapphire]

Yeah, but reminder the martians got some of their fighting-machines destroyed by Victorian era equipment

[dull ore]

"you guys don't even have the Pain Nexus Engine for your trains? weird"

[grim bridge]

however. the power of belief is fucking nuts for an Oobl. Like, superhuman (superoobl, lol) feats are achieved by it

so their champions like oregten and the rainbringer could probably do some serious serious damage

[midnight sapphire]

Their heat-rays are powerful, and set things ablaze within a 2-mile length, but yea

...Except they're ||probably long gone, or at least I haven't seen them in the game yet. I've only seen the Oobl of Corruption||

[grim bridge]

||oregten is long gone. the rainbringer is a blank check that I will cash someday, probably)||

[midnight sapphire]

Cash someday? You fuckin' trafficking oobls??

[grim bridge]

no, that was the guy in map01

[midnight sapphire]

1000QuotaStare

[dull ore]

who tf is oregten

[grim bridge]

On Map02

in the mystical tower

there's a scroll that discusses him

not a major character or nothin

[dull ore]

ah ic

[midnight sapphire]

Isn't there ||a painting of him in the Extras?||

Or am I misremembering

[grim bridge]

yes there is, comes with the founder's edition

in the FBI doc

[dull ore]

i gotta read that eventually

lol

[midnight sapphire]

God my memory is so ass 😭

Why was I cursed with a McDonald's bag for a brain

[grim bridge]

blessing if you ask me

grass is always greener I suppose

[midnight sapphire]

If you water it enough!

Also depends on the species, I guess

[harsh saddle]

the planet bouta be screaming in agony when i land

[midnight sapphire]

Just because they're alive probably doesn't mean the thing as a whole is sapient-

[grim bridge]

maybe doesnt mean the thing as a whole is sapient

[harsh saddle]

So erm, what is this, this was in the trailer for your ooblterra game and I'm not curious

@grim bridge ?

[grim bridge]

hi hunter bot

thats the hunter bot

damn man I almost want to start porting OYH enemies into WTO again

but anyway if you download the demo for On Your Hands you will get to meet him :)

[midnight sapphire]

That fucking robot that I hate

[dull ore]

I love him

He's the first enemy I designed myself without direct direction from Skull

[harsh saddle]

What do they do

[midnight sapphire]

They wheel towards you like the shitty little piss babies they are

[harsh saddle]

Uhh

So they're just the locker?

[midnight sapphire]

I deadass ragequit from OYH trying to get the hunter bot's achievement, came back, then realized, "OHHH, THAT'S WHAT YOU DO"

I know I'm in the wrong but these guys can still rot in hell

[dull ore]

Lool

I only did the visual design !

I did totally come up with the idea for their game design too hahaha

[midnight sapphire]

Sending 1 billion wood-eating termites to Skull's dungeon rn

[harsh saddle]

Like explain in detail

Im confused

[midnight sapphire]

Play On Your Hands

[dull ore]

They just run up on you and attack you. The level they're in makes them nigh inescapable so you try to avoid running into the room they're in.

[harsh saddle]

a normal day in adamance

[midnight sapphire]

WHAT

HOW DID YOU GET THEM TO SPAWN THERE??

HUH

[harsh saddle]

imperium

[midnight sapphire]

Oh

Rip

[harsh saddle]

i just had the alien corpse behind me btw

[unique spire]

For me if someone grab the alien corpse It stays locked in their arms

[harsh saddle]

I spawned it in with imperium so that may have something to do with it

[unique spire]

Oh ok

[harsh saddle]

@grim bridge would there ever be a slight chance that the company would like transport some of the ooblterra monsters for like, testing purposes?

[grim bridge]

well, wanderers are extremely tasty

[harsh saddle]

anything else?

or like

just the wanders?

sorry im asking this random ass question

[grim bridge]

I dont know much about the company or their aims. other than to feed

[harsh saddle]

yeah sorry about the question, i just want to add enemies to sector-0 and asking to see if it would make sense.

[grim bridge]

Canon is a plaything do it anyway

[boreal mortar]

Personally, I've added Gallanermas inside and Eye Securities outside, and even various WTO scrap, including the alien corpse that spawns the Oobl Ghost.

[harsh saddle]

just like, would there be any possible way ooblterra scrap and or monsters could hypothetically end up on a different moon?

i get that cannon doesn't mean shit but still

it's just that itch i gotta get, knowing they could possibly end up on sector-0 in the cannon

[grim bridge]

given teleport magic, in theory yes

teleport magic has straight up sent itself to earth in oyh canon

a distance that even oobl cant travel via spacecraft

its extremely potent

[harsh saddle]

also wouldn't Gallanermas just be eyeless dogs but with less steps?

when spawning them outside?

[fallen sable]

I just got an idea

[boreal mortar]

Yeah, but I'm sadistic in my modpack, and I've also got the REAL eyeless dogs inside too

[harsh saddle]

damn

[fallen sable]

A monster thats like, a Nutcracker but its all like, Ooblterra styled and looks wildly different, he carries a laser shotgun or pistol instead of a double barrel shotgun

[boreal mortar]

Anyway, regarding where WTO stuff could end up

I personally would say it could end up on moons that are interested in researching things. Sector is a given, but I imagine Cosomocos might also be a good candidate

[harsh saddle]

@grim bridge im a bit confused on how the binding settings work

if it's set to WTOOnly, does that mean that specific thing can only appear on ooblterra, despite the level loader?

or like

do they just make it so that only things from ooblterra spawn?

i assume the latter

[grim bridge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Skeleton_Studios/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/wiki/2028-configuring-welcome-to-ooblterra/

see if this doesnt clear it up

[harsh saddle]

wait do your indoor enemies have to stay indoors or have the risk of breaking?

[grim bridge]

it depends on the enemy but yes its possible

[harsh saddle]

ok

sorry about these questions, it just that i tried adding some ooblterra enemies to a different moon along with some other guys, but they never actually spawn

same with scrap

[boreal mortar]

Well, the most probable reason might be because you're using the names as seen on the in-game tooltips. Try finding and using their internal names instead. This goes for both scrap and entities.

Note how the other entities are listed. Instead of Hygrodere, Thumper, and Eyeless Dog, there's Blob, Crawler, and MouthDog. Those are the internal names for those entities.

[midnight sapphire]

#1182523433221902376 message

Tl;dr: Don't worky rn

[midnight sapphire]

SECTOR: Laboratory
POPULATION: Inhabited
CLIMATE: 30°F Humid, unbreathable air. Flat terrain, composed of living organisms, containing a thriving ecosystem.
FAUNA: High number of dangerous fauna, as well as remnants from Ooblterra's native race. Remain highly cautious.

My custom Ooblterra description I did via CentralConfig

[midnight sapphire]

I just realized, lore question:

If LC's current year takes place in is 2500, then what the hell happened to the oobl? ||Why aren't they back up on their feet, and how is Prot still alive?||

Also, Runtime Icons is unable to render chemical jugs properly, but I'm not sure if that's an issue with it, or Ooblterra, and also eventually after some time, all cameras in the ship come to a halt, including the mini-map

[harsh saddle]

aw what?

why not?

[harsh saddle]

how exactly?

aparently you can't with LLL

[boreal mortar]

@harsh saddle I use LQ

I find it to be more versatile than LLL, and easier to use and understand

But opinions vary

It's been quite a bit since LQ last updated, but it still works rather well

[midnight sapphire]

IT WORKS WITH CENTRALCONFIG

PRAISE IMPULSIVELASS

It happened again WHY

Ooblterra is cooked, THERE'S A SECOND MOON LANDING ISTG

Vacula void mass is coming for their asses...

[obtuse raptor]

imagine showing someone who's never played modded before this screenshot lmao

[midnight sapphire]

They would be like this probably

[fallen sable]

whats that mod that shows you scrap value on inventory slots

[midnight sapphire]

QualityCompanyFork

[fallen sable]

Thank you

[midnight sapphire]

Your'e welcom

[fallen sable]

WAIT DID THEY FUCKIN

PORT COOPERATE RESTRUCTURE STUFF???

[midnight sapphire]

?

[fallen sable]

like the

ah hold up

[midnight sapphire]

@zenith phoenix Oh my god, you have not seen ANYTHING yet

This is 1 scrap day Ooblterra...

On other note, I managed to balance Ooblterra into a Tier 3

Avg. scrap is $1800, and the highest it can go aside from 1 scrap days is about over $2000

I did this by making its most common scrap like literally garbage, shit you'd see from a Tier 1, and the custom scrap uncommon, but not rare

[past venture]

it's not much really. just the imperium minimap and ooblterra.

[harsh saddle]

LQ?

[boreal mortar]

Lethal Quantities

[harsh saddle]

does it work alongside LLL?

or do they conflict

[boreal mortar]

LQ works just fine, but I believe LQ will override whatever LLL has set up; it takes priority

[harsh saddle]

ok

[boreal mortar]

Although when you first boot it up, it creates a preset for each moon based on what parameters are already set, so I don't believe you need to go in and readjust anything immediately if you used LLL for this purpose prior, but I might be wrong

I had never used LLL for this purpose, only LQ exclusively

[fallen sable]

I can vouch

[harsh saddle]

can you help me out with this, the config is set for sector-0 still isn't working

01936699-abb4-aedc-52aa-64879b70521c here's the mod profile code

[harsh saddle]

@bleak prairie sorry for the ping but can you help me figure this out?

[bleak prairie]

Wrong thread though you're referencing a RosiePies interior

[harsh saddle]

this involves the ooblterra monsters

[harsh saddle]

not to rush you but have you got a clue on what the issue is?

[bleak prairie]

Working on someones modpack rq and then I will look

[harsh saddle]

ok

[midnight sapphire]

Even if the adult wanderers have no weight on an outside moon, e.g. Lithium, will they still spawn when a juvenile wanderer is killed?

[midnight sapphire]

Getting killed by a ghost player causes your camera to get stuck at one angle in spectate

[midnight sapphire]

Also, update to this: The entire ship straight up doesn't work when landed

Cameras/mini-map don't work, the clock stays in the ship, no scrap collection notification pops up, etc

I love this mod, but holy mother of bugs 😭 I know I can't complain though because one of your devs is on break

...Also, apparently the TimeofDay music remains in orbit, and we're still on 3 days despite completing a round of Ooblterra

[ancient tangle]

Is there any config option for this yet?

[proven helm]

Will there be a configuration of ooblterra enemy spawn weights, Or be its standalone thing. That way they can be used outside of the moon (just for fun and chaos)

[midnight sapphire]

FUCK YOU STEAM

[delicate mauve]

I never got to understand what the ritual room with chemical items was meant to be used for. I've been playing this mod since it got released and I still haven't figured out what am I meant to do there

[harsh saddle]

@grim bridge sorry for the ping but would it theoretically be possible to force enemies into WTO's enemy list so that they're affected by the bind to Oobl lab config?

[grim bridge]

good morning ooblterra thread

[grim bridge]

you can try it, I'm fairly certain that setting just uses the LLL list

[grim bridge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Skeleton_Studios/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/wiki/2021-oobl-laboratory/

check the section on "Frankenstein Rooms"

[delicate mauve]

ooo

[grim bridge]

You can move any enemy you want to any other moon OR change their spawn rate via LLL's config

[proven helm]

Ohh, are they only exclusive to spawn in oobl lab regardless of the moon?

[grim bridge]

binding them to the laboratory will do exactly this

but you can pretty easily play around with the config to make it act however you want

I will say though that Lurker Eggs and Enforcers kinda need the laboratory in order to work

[proven helm]

Yeah binding them to moons with laboratory on is the simpler way.. but i want them to spawn in any interior without having to mess with LLL's spawn configs ( in all moons each ) since that takes more time and had always been buggy to me

[proven helm]

Okay so with LQ I simply got them to spawn globally, pog

[harsh saddle]

Why the enforcers?

[grim bridge]

backend stuff

basically, their code wants to ||find "hide points" for them to wait at and currently thats a custom object that only exists on ooblterra tiles||

[midnight sapphire]

Are there any plans to fix WTO's remaining issues?

[midnight sapphire]

Also, unrelated question

What are the power levels of the WTO entities?

[ember prawn]

i know why the ship is broken on ooblterra, where the center monitor doesnt work and scrap isnt counted as collected when you walk in with it
its because audio reverb triggers need to be around the ships landing area, this same issue was recently fixed on the luigis mansion moon, and thats what the dev of it said they did to fix it

if im not exactly correct, you can ask them exactly what they did to fix it

[zinc pagoda]

daww, it likes you

[midnight sapphire]

Oh yeah? Go give them a kiss then, and see how you like it

[zinc pagoda]

i know how to deal with em tho

[harsh saddle]

Pro tip: if you have piggy's variety mod, 5 bullets from the revolver can take out an adult wander

[zinc pagoda]

if unmodified

[harsh saddle]

I'd imagine that if mimics were to be in the oobl lab, they would be replaced with a hunter bot from on your hands

[proven cobalt]

peak, peak

[polar verge]

[04:46:24.8802364] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Welcome_To_Ooblterra.Enemies.WandererAI.NearestPlayer (System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] List) (at F:/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/Enemies/WandererAI.cs:206)
Welcome_To_Ooblterra.Enemies.WandererAI+InDanger.CanTransitionBeTaken () (at F:/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/Enemies/WandererAI.cs:131)
Welcome_To_Ooblterra.Enemies.WTOEnemy.Update () (at F:/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/Enemies/WTOEnemy.cs:95)
Welcome_To_Ooblterra.Enemies.WandererAI.Update () (at F:/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/Enemies/WandererAI.cs:184)
this keeps spamming

[proven cobalt]

just started playing OYH, absolute peak.

[dull ore]

hell yeah :D

[proven cobalt]

idk if any of yall DO play it, but I'm stuck on the Grinder maze

[onyx pewter]

you basically walk around the maze and find the hints, then type them into the terminal in the safe zone

then once you have all the hints you can figure out the order in which you activate the switches

[edgy robin]

our first reaction lol

[dull ore]

hell yeah, glad y'all liked the looks :3

[harsh saddle]

Peak

[mental hamlet]

whats that ui mod youre using im curious

[silent anchor]

Looks like EladsHud

[midnight sapphire]

Is development on WtO over?

[dull ore]

I'll have to ask the big man but I believe so yeah. At least for the time being.

We're working on a game rn so we're p neck deep in that

[midnight sapphire]

Ah. Suppose they're working on their next game

I'll rob someone at gunpoint so I can get the funds to buy said game when it comes out :p

[silent anchor]

Anyone who has played OYH, what is the solution to ||getting the third rune? I'm truly lost and worried I might actually be softlocked||

[midnight sapphire]

Remind me, what that's again?

[dull ore]

in the Lurker nest right?

[silent anchor]

||A bunch of gallenarmas below a cubical room, with 8 buttons around it, rune in the center with 4 magic/key pillars next to it surrounded by glass||

I've been stuck there for an hour, unable to figure out what I'm doing. I tried leaving, but there's nowhere else to go

Except a road with an invisible wall 😭

[midnight sapphire]

I forgot myself, I'm sorry 😭

I'd have to be in the location again to recall

[dull ore]

Ah, you need to press the buttons of corresponding color together. So press one green button and then the other one. Then do that for every color. The colors of the buttons don't get revealed until pressed but they're mapped out in the middle of the room

[midnight sapphire]

OH RIGHT

Yes

[dull ore]

Sorry about that level btw

not our proudest work

[silent anchor]

I had them all linked, but nothing happened. Aside from opening the door and tunnel

[dull ore]

huh

ok that sounds like a bug

hold on

[midnight sapphire]

May I ask how to unlock the ||Dopefish secret||
I spent like 2 hours one day trying to figure out how to unlock it, but to no avail

Needless to say, it really demotivated me to look for secrets due to how long it was taking over the course of two days of trying to access it

[silent anchor]

I'd say the area has some issues, when I died or restarted, the board with the + signs never reset, which is why I'm worried I might have messed up my save

[dull ore]

no it's meant to save

[silent anchor]

Weird. So what happens when you link the things together?

Would the glass disappear?

[dull ore]

it's supposed to lower the rune to you and let you pick it up yeah

[silent anchor]

Well that's bad

I think my save is bugged then

[dull ore]

Fuck I forget actually. I remember it's in the starting room in Map10 but I don't remember the exact sequence.

I'll forward all this to the big man but he's sleeping atm

[dull ore]

iirc this a known issue and this has a fix i think?

[silent anchor]

Hopefully. Unfortunately reloading the area from main menu and restarting doesn't seem to fix, not sure what might

[midnight sapphire]

Ye I know where it is, but I don't know how the access it

There aren't really any clues to it

[silent anchor]

You give it a goober

[midnight sapphire]

A fucking what

[silent anchor]

A goober

NO

[midnight sapphire]

Perceive

[silent anchor]

NO I DONT WANT TO REPLY I WANT TO EDIT

[midnight sapphire]

These oobls are really freaky huh..

[silent anchor]

:)

Actual awful typo

[midnight sapphire]

Are you being serious btw

[silent anchor]

Nah just messing around

[midnight sapphire]

Is this something I actually have to look for

Oh

Thought it was a 2-step secret for a sec lol

[silent anchor]

I've only discovered a secret in the church

Nothing other than that though

[grim bridge]

for anyone running into any particular issues with OYH, try switching to the previous-version branch on steam and see if it helps at all

we're pretty slowly investigating some things going wrong on 5.10 depending on hardware config, framerate, etc

[silent anchor]

I'll give it a try when I'm next on. Will reply if anything changes after I do

Aside from this issue though OYH has been really fun so far

[midnight sapphire]

Like the Goober from Grace?

[midnight sapphire]

OH MY GOD IT'S SO OBVIOUS I'M TWEAKING AT MYSELF

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

Thank you though!

[grim bridge]

dont feel too bad because from what I understand

this secret has been having issues on 5.10

it's possible you investigated this door and it was still closed

[grim bridge]

glad to hear you enjoyed it! I'd love to know your thoughts when the curtains close

if you want me to answer these questions more readily the game has a link to our skeleton studios discord

[grim bridge]

We are full steam ahead on Delta Perspective development

[midnight sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[grim bridge]

I have moved the person I had on maintaining WTO over to that for the time being

I may revisit WTO at some point in the future if I have cool enemy ideas

so it's "suspended" for now

thank you for your support :)

[midnight sapphire]

👍

[dull ore]

Sorry i suck shit at answering questions I was (until recently) just the visuals guy LOL

[midnight sapphire]

What about bugs, or will they remain until you revisit WTO as whole?

[grim bridge]

Yeah, exactly that

[midnight sapphire]

Aight

[onyx pewter]

im glad to hear you guys are making another game c:, i havent finished OYH yet, im pretty sure i got stuck on the exact same puzzle as geo, but its a really good game

[grim bridge]

unfortunately maps 14 and 19 were made under a pretty bad time crunch and so we're not super proud of them, especially compared to 04 and 09

[dull ore]

14 in particular we went through like 3 visions for lol

[grim bridge]

I suggest the same fix that I said to geo, might help

Im glad youve enjoyed it though

[onyx pewter]

oki, ill give that a try

[heavy siren]

i read that as ||dopafish..||

[midnight sapphire]

@zenith phoenix

[heavy siren]

nononononoNONONOONON

[midnight sapphire]

Oh I didn't even realize it was you, Nova

[heavy siren]

lol

[onyx pewter]

[silent anchor]

Before its suspension, could a tiny patch be released to make dead gallenarmas not grunt indefinitely? They're a neat enemy but, sometimes they die to something and they just, don't stop making noise

[silent anchor]

Will definitely give a full opinion once I finish it, whenever that be

[silent anchor]

Yep, this worked

[zinc pagoda]

btw, i should point out that every prop in the interior's main room appears to be in the item layer. the Terminal Gal's (Code Rebirth) item scanning feature highlights pretty much everything

[brave spindle]

hello ooblkind

is there any chance this mod is updated for the newer versions? it is more likely than not for this mod to have become unusable after the release of v73

pretty much anything with custom scripts and networking got fucked over and needs a (fairly quick) recompile

[polar verge]

all the enemies surely got nuked

[brave spindle]

yea

the interior may still work but I doubt it

[polar verge]

may wanna @ the dev

they are online

[brave spindle]

If you think I should

I didn't do it cuz I didn't wanna like... seem like I was rushing anyone but I suppose it makes sense

[polar verge]

it wouldnt hurt, worst thing he can say is no as, idk if hed check the thread as its been over half a year

since theyve been here

[dull ore]

I'm on the dev team, we've talked about what we wanna do. It's a bit tough cause most of our time is spent on working on our new game. I'll bring it up again on our next dev call tho

[polar verge]

nice, good luck on the new game btw

[brave spindle]

hello! just as a heads up, the mod is most likely broken in the new update. LC changed unity versions and so a lot of mods (enemy mods in particular) need- oh hello :D

won't @ OP then

[dull ore]

Oh yeah no we're aware it's wicked broke

[polar verge]

wasnt sure since plenty of devs come in and out of this place haha

[brave spindle]

I hope your new game comes out fantastic, I love your games' particular style, it's mad cool <3

[dull ore]

I forgot i have notifications on for here so i was going crazy trying to figure out where i was getting pings lmao

[dull ore]

thank you :D

but yeah no i will try to force the issue, it is sad for the mod to not work as is cause it's easily the most well known thing we've ever made

[brave spindle]

lol mb for the spam then

[dull ore]

LOL nah ur good

its a real issue

[grim bridge]

i did the same damn thing

I didn't know people still went here

I should probably update the listing to say Depreciated since that's ATM the mod's current status. I had assigned dee to upkeep but his talents are better spent on DeltaP at the moment

However I am entirely willing to spin up the project and try fixing it myself on the one condition that Unity doesn't nuke everything like it does sometimes

It'd have to be when I get home, so sometime next week

short answer is I will Maybe fix it, stay tuned

[brave spindle]

hopefully unity shouldn't fuck the project over when you update, but make sure backup that thang...

I haven't heard of anyone getting their project nuked from making the move, but juuust in case lol

[grim bridge]

to be clear it's not literally deleting the project. It just sometime fucks all the dependencies/references and i have to run the uh. the tool. I forgot what its called

but the tool only gets half of them so I inevitably spend another couple hours linting

[brave spindle]

I sure will 🫡!!! I was reminded of the mod yesterday when I was doing LC mod redesigns as an art exercise... and then I realized this probably didn't work anymore!! I was really heart broken cuz I'd just been able to take a good look at the Oobl ghost and it looks so fucking cool 💔

[brave spindle]

the patcher?

if you need help with anything there's a ton of people willing to offer you it in the dev channels, #dev-enemies #dev-interiors #dev-moons

and there's a bunch of resources pinned there, as well

esp for the recent networking fixes people have had to do for older mods

best of luck, hopefully the process of updating is not too cumbersome!!!

[dull ore]

i should lowkey just release the models at some point

[brave spindle]

ooo that'd be real useful lol

[grim bridge]

We can unlock the resources repo

[brave spindle]

my friend had a hard time discerning the shape of the wanderer for example, though I do like that aspect of the art style

[grim bridge]

though all of them, including the oobl ghost, are part of the Rainbringer's Extras dlc

[brave spindle]

I love me some weirdos

[grim bridge]

I threw the model in there even though it's not in OYH

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3019250/On_Your_Hands__Rainbringers_Extras/?curator_clanid=40958208

Steam

On Your Hands - Rainbringer's Extras

The Rainbringer's Extras is a free expansion for On Your Hands containing Old Builds, Models, Unused Assets, and more!

Featuring:

• "Alpha and Beta Builds" - Several old builds for On Your Hands across its various stages of development.
  …

im not sure if you are able to download this without owning OYH but if you can, you don't actually need the game EXE in order to access it

it's just files in a folder

[brave spindle]

oo neato

I'll look into that next time then, tyvm :>

[dull ore]

warning that i was learning modelling at the time so some of these models are genuinely atrocious LOL

wanderer armature my beloathed

[grim bridge]

laz I hope you know the old grinder is in there

[dull ore]

with the face?

[brave spindle]

I think @proven cobalt streamed the game wanderer is from while I was drawing the Gallenarma redesign, is it this one?

[grim bridge]

and the old lurker. so we actually have 2 models that are UVmapped to their concept art instead of an actual texture

[grim bridge]

yep, WTO is based on OYH

[brave spindle]

ah do it IS from that game!!

dude that game looked siick I wanna play it sometime

[brave spindle]

oh my fucking god 😭

that is. so incredibly scuffed but I love it

[dull ore]

isnt the grinder still like that or did i retexture it

[grim bridge]

p sure it's still like that actually because when I had you draw the veins texture you had to just draw it over the concept art

[dull ore]

YEAH right

god lmao

[grim bridge]

OYH was made by a bunch of people who didn't know how to make video games yet. There are still several materials in that game that are world grid aligned because I just straight up did not know what UV mapping was

we learned a lot over the process, of course, but

some artifacts remain

[dull ore]

im p sure the wanderer armature like

to this day

still has 3 root bones

[grim bridge]

we'll fix it in the remake

[dull ore]

lel

[proven cobalt]

peak

[dull ore]

Also the Gallenarma were originally called The Gallen, but we would always make two fbx files for every monster. One for the mesh and one for the armature, appending -arma to the end of the armature file. Gallenarma just came from that. The problem with that is that seperating out the armature and the mesh into two seperate files made absolute no sense i genuinely do not remember why we did that lmao

[brave spindle]

I'm sure a lot of people I know would want to die after hearing that but imo that type of... "scuffedness" gives games like you guys' a particular charm that not many others can say they have

[grim bridge]

I've actually heard this before, a friend of mine used a pretentious japanese word for it

"wabi-sabi"

I told her she was insane but i guess she isn't the only one

though I've admittedly come around to some (note: not all) of OYH's flaws as just a sort of marker of where I was as a creative at that point

[brave spindle]

bugeyed

that is fucked oml

idk how scuffed this is by comparison but the first enemies we did for our mod had each body part have a separate texture instead of a single one with proper UV mapping

the ones w red circles on em are we ones we ended up using (no, we didn't use 7 different petal textures surprisingly)

[dull ore]

that's not too crazy, there are some legit reasons to do that

[brave spindle]

there really wasn't one behind this tho it was just like that cuz our modeller didn't know how to do UVs (and I didn't even know UVs were a thing)

this was another one where we did this for like, no reason

and "rootstuffs" is used for the world's least visible, most thin legs in existence

this is what they look like ingame. so like... there was 0 reason to even texture those

[dull ore]

lol

it happens :P

[brave spindle]

that's worth a lot tbh, it's a great way to measure improvement

but ye, im glad to see you guys still around! thanks for the nice chat, and good luck on your new game :D

[past venture]

what if it was goodbye to ooblterra...................

[onyx pewter]

[silent anchor]

is it possible that this mod will get updated to v73? Or should I assume the worst and remove it from my pack?

[fervent sparrow]

Remove until they return. Most likely its gonna take them a lot of work to fix everything up. I honestly fear its dead though.

[azure falcon]

not dead yet, "Hiatus" is what we're running with

we do still have it in the pipeline, it's taking a bit longer than we initially budgeted since there's still work to be done on our main project

but yes I do recommend removing it from the time being, and watch this thread or our discord where we'll announce when it's updated

sorry this is taking so long y'all, but it's definitely within the pipeline for this year and ideally before Q1 ends

[polar verge]

I mean unless im forgetting something id just be the enemies needing update netcode

tho yeah they have their main project rn

[silent anchor]

I'm just glad to hear the mod isn't abandoned

[grim bridge]

I will offer that if anyone is programatically minded and is interested, I would love to have a dedicated maintainer on WTO

[obtuse raptor]

update your mod with a license that indicates such will 😛

[grim bridge]

what do you recommend?

90% of my git repos are private I never learned this stuff

I remember there being a TLDR copypasta that went around a while ago that explains each one

[obtuse raptor]

https://choosealicense.com/

[grim bridge]

thank you

[obtuse raptor]

and yeah ideally make repo public and have it as the link on ts

preferred so if you drop off the grid you can do so knowing people have the option of picking it up

[novel kiln]

I hope that WTO get's updated soon, especially considering how unique it is.

[grim bridge]

as of saturday the programmer who was previously doing LTS on the mod has finally returned to the role

so we're at least on track for our Q1 2026 target for this mod to be compatable again

[brave spindle]

NICEEE

[novel kiln]

Also since I noticed it before I knew the mod was broken it's woth Mentioning that Ooblterra's Spawn pool and Interior were also triggering on Terra from Skelaahs Wild Moons, which I'd wager is a naming conflict.

[grim bridge]

we have some news coming very shortly everyone

[zinc pagoda]

[fallen sable]

[thick kayak]

Oh?? intriguing

[brave spindle]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G9r6YhCWcAAGdCg.gif

[onyx pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-eating-gif-25793804

[proven cobalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372358390491381830/1482401038349893832/hello-neighbor-nicky.gif

we await

[dull ore]

Just did some very promising testing 😀

[thick kayak]

Is Oobblterra making a return??

[zinc pagoda]

Deprecation Update

Ooblterra will be receiving no further updates!

After 17 years of upholding this mod, the red exclamation mark of glory is at last being placed.

(/j)

((dont hunt me down, i was only making funni))

[thick kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-movies-rule-iron-eagle-movie-target-lock-on-target-locked-on-gif-4429906002367928427

[novel kiln]

I nearly took that serious

[onyx pewter]

cant believe its already been 17 years 😔

[proven cobalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1389410323680989244/1483114005064192050/Evil.gif

[fallen sable]

hunts you down anyway for the funny

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1329287165732978689/1390935190238400562/silly.gif

[viral flint]

yep

very soon

[thick kayak]

oooooo

[dull ore]

so soon ™️

[viral flint]

Soon™

Soon©

[brave spindle]

I'M SOONING IT

[frail pumice]

LOL

:O

[grim bridge]

Welcome to Ooblterra Release Version [2.0.0]

Finally, with only a month before v80 releases. Oh, goddamn it.

Welcome to Ooblterra is now finally available for Lethal Company Version v73!

CHANGED

• Updated the map schema to reflect modern Lethal Company's map system

FIXED

• Fixed a persistent RECURRING, occasional issue where the Enforcer's texture would be pitch black instead of transparent while it was hiding
• Fixed an issue where the machine room's battery didn't insert properly rotated

KNOWN ISSUES

• Frankenstein Room beds will not change to say "Body Placed!" when a body is put on the bed. Multiple bodies can be placed down; the Frankenstein room will "revive" only the most recent player to be put on the bed.

This update along with future ones can be found on:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Skeleton_Studios/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/ . Please allow several minutes for Thunderstore/R2ModManager to update its list.

Welcome to Ooblterra! v2.0.0

everyone give a big grateful round of applause to @viral flint for taking over maintenance on this project

[viral flint]

ye pls complain at me for any future issues

[thick kayak]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOO

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[fallen sable]

NO FUCKING WAY

[polar verge]

looks like it was rejected bc of how long since last update

gonna wanna post of in #1229912303588212796

@grim bridge

meant to reply to you haha

[grim bridge]

aha

Yeah we were just trying to figure that out behind the scenes lol

[dull ore]

they don't want this getting out

[frail pumice]

its too powerful

[grim bridge]

Skeleton Studios will forever be 100% on starting some kind of fire at launch

[polar verge]

I assume this is prob to prevent hacked accounts uploading malicious stuff

[grim bridge]

fwiw, manually downloading the mod still works and gives the correct file

[ember prawn]

WHAT

[grim bridge]

bizarrely

[ember prawn]

hope your own separate game dev is going well btw

[grim bridge]

also how do I pin messages again

[grim bridge]

depending on your definition of well, it is

[frail pumice]

./pin-bot

[grim bridge]

thank you

[frail pumice]

pin and then the link of the message

[grim bridge]

should prolly unpin all the old ones

[ember prawn]

i know what im doing

give me like 20 min or so

[proven cobalt]

WOOOOOOOO

[dull ore]

[ember prawn]

buh

i guess i dont know

[ember prawn]

also nvm i forgot about the mod manager update period

but youll enjoy it skull

[grim bridge]

we have to deal with the package getting rejected, so we're also waiting on manual review

[ember prawn]

oh i see

[grim bridge]

interesting

[viral flint]

i made a post in there

[ember prawn]

yet they let random games probably made in like 4 hours get added

[viral flint]

sorry it took so long to get this all updated 🥺

[grim bridge]

come to think of it we're also now 2 for 3 on "manual review delaying a release and curbing the hype for it a bit"

[exotic temple]

https://tenor.com/view/update-delayed-lebron-block-update-block-lebron-lebron-james-block-update-releasing-3-2-1-gif-1010810542145176969

[polar verge]

blame robyn, she obviously owns thunderstore 😡

[grim bridge]

robyn always hated me specifically

likely something against skeletons

[polar verge]

meow

[dapper snow]

🐱 Meow!

[dull ore]

this gif fucking rules lmao

[grim bridge]

im sure we'll get a lot of use out of this internally

[exotic temple]

[viral flint]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wait-waiting-cat-wait-waiting-cat-waiting-gif-9780709586447195996

[brave spindle]

YOU DA GOAT

[brave spindle]

it's ok!!! the fact it's updated is super nice so I don't mind the long wait time to get it back

[viral flint]

once we can get it fixed to not be rejected by thunderstore 😭

soon I hope 🤞

[brave spindle]

you just need to @ a mod in the rejected packages thread i think

[viral flint]

yuppp i made one before

[brave spindle]

either robyn or 753

sick sick

now we wait...

[viral flint]

now we wait 🙏

[brave spindle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/george-sigma-shorch-mewing-georg-Nl3TNvZJb6t23J172M

[viral flint]

you can manually download if you want to play right now though 😂

[green cliff]

this had me so excited up until i saw the hole in the map wasnt patched up and somehow its more glaring of an issue. really wanna love this moon but its been there almost forever lol

[ember prawn]

@grim bridge here you go, backgroundless renders of all the ooblterra monsters :)
(i forgot the lurker initially, its further down)

[green cliff]

it gives my crew conniptions that this is so close to being a good experience

[viral flint]

hole in the map?

if you can show me where that is I can fix it

[ember prawn]

yeah i have no idea what youre talking about

also i forgot the god damn lurker

[green cliff]

you just walk out front of ship, like slightly left. youll walk right off the map.

its been there for a long minute now

[viral flint]

alright, this latest release gets approved on thunderstore, would you be able to show me?

just a screenshot of where it is happening

[green cliff]

i can upload a vid rq, just lemme compress it

[brave spindle]

awesome as fuck

[green cliff]

like i said this has been here for a minute

[viral flint]

ah there's a hole out the back huh? alright

lmao

i'll be sure to have this fixed in the next release

thank you 🙏

[ember prawn]

this kind of thing is literally on a lot of vanilla moons

i wouldnt call this something that has to be fixed

not just cause of that, but why would someone go over here anyways

[green cliff]

that is such a bad excuse to have a hole in your map

[ember prawn]

it doesnt matter though???

like, this doesnt provoke laziness at all

you can find holes like this on vow, march, rend, dine, embrion, and artifice

does that mean zeekerss must fix those?

[green cliff]

thats not an excuse? if i go slightly off the beaten path and your moon has a hole in it like a poorly maintained wooden rollercoaster that should be a problem.

idfk where you got the lazy from

chill

[ember prawn]

im not upset

it just genuinely does not matter

[green cliff]

"im not upset" and you launch into that.

dev saw my report thats all i care abt lol

[ember prawn]

what about what i said indicated i was upset, in any fashion

all i did was explain to you that this shouldnt need to be fixed

what is your deal dude

[frail pumice]

☕

[ember prawn]

this is like, insanely funny

comedy (from lethal company) is leaping through my monitor

[brave spindle]

you can find em by flying OOB n stuff but this one's accessible via foot so I think it's fine to request a fix

and it's pretty close

[ember prawn]

never had an issue with them mentioning it in the first place

[brave spindle]

that's ok

[frail pumice]

Its not

MONTY ITS NOT

[brave spindle]

that's peag

[midnight sapphire]

OOBLTERRA IS SO FUCKING BACK

[proven cobalt]

"just slightly left"

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-the-hobbit-walking-gif-10203792676982047509

/j

we're so back this is so peak

imma leave some recommendations in a moment

[dull ore]

Fwiw I made the map and I would have rather not left ways to just walk off it lmao.

I thought I placed an invisible wall around to stop that from happening. Unsure if that broke or if I just missed a spot.

[viral flint]

you did put it there properly, but it got disabled because the wall would cause players to get squished to the back of the ship on fly in

[dull ore]

OHHH right

Is there a way to just reenable that when the ship lands

[viral flint]

absolutely is and this is what I'll do to fix it

[dull ore]

also these go hard

[proven cobalt]

recommendations/bugs:

• While it is a part of the aesthetic, the heavy green fog makes it somewhat hard to appreciate the moon's beauty in full since you can't see jack-shit anywhere loll, maybe turn it down a little bit?
• The path to main has been greatly improved, but the Fire Exit over the river is pretty rough. The jump is not possible when jumping to the exit and impossible to jump back if you have more than 40 pounds of weight
• The closing door mechanic indoors being so common is kinda a problem since they're unopenable. Making is so that after they get to a certain point they can be "lifted" with a long-ish interaction would help encourage travel further.
• Every time after the first time you land, landing on the moon later does not play the outdoor music themes, even after the quota is complete.
• bigass key icon lmao

also interior fog on this moon is actually dastardly

key

[dull ore]

is it not descriptive

[viral flint]

key

[midnight sapphire]

Is the custom Time of Day ost not working for anybody else on Ooblterra?

Is the clock also not displaying intentional ?

[ember prawn]

you have
mods breaking shit

both were working when i was making the renders of the guys

[midnight sapphire]

Fuck

We have no idea what it coul dbe

It could be LunarConfig lmao

[ember prawn]

its betterspraypaint

[midnight sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1480320139709649107/1486855146884305017/Memz-Sackboy_1.gif

[viral flint]

What mods are you using? I'll make a note to take a look at what might be breaking it

[midnight sapphire]

It's LunarConfig 😭

@golden adder CRAFTYYYY

Disabling Lunar fixed Ooblterra's custom footsteps, time of day, and clock

[golden adder]

Do you even have configure content on for it

[midnight sapphire]

Yep

[ember prawn]

the 4th thing is due to a vanilla game issue with how the timed ambience works i think

[midnight sapphire]

Had to remove the scrap from Generic Scrap from the mod, alongside Code Rebirth entities that force themselves on there

[ember prawn]

the game is supposed to play ambient tracks at 8 AM, 12 PM, 5 PM, and 10:12 PM

but this only happens the first time you land on a moon (AT ALL, not once per) in a save file

because zeekerss fucked up the code for it somewhere

[midnight sapphire]

Yeah, ButteryFixes fixes that

It's been so long, I forgot that was an issue, lol

[ember prawn]

also there is actually a way to use the fire exit without any equipment or problems with weight

theres a fallen structure to the left as you exit

which can also be used to jump to it

[midnight sapphire]

This is all we change about Ooblterra, by the way

[grim bridge]

to be clear, the fire exit is intended to have a couple of solutions:

• you can jump on the objects in the water, requires no equipment and works bidirectionally
• you can jump on top of the crates and then on top of the shack, running across its roof to get to the fire exit
• you can buy an extension ladder, which is long enough to cross the river, but requires you to be considerate with your timing/have a friend lest you get stranded on the opposite side after it closes

also, the closing doors will actually reset on the condition that the machine is found and activated

[midnight sapphire]

I'm curious, are they a dev of y'all's?

Haven't been in the SkullCrusher Discord for a while

[dull ore]

yes!

[midnight sapphire]

A

[ember prawn]

@viral flint
hi heres a list of issues i noticed

• ghost oobls dont seem to be properly attempting to attack players
• ghost players have no animations
• the painting decoration of the interior doesnt have its texture properly wrapped to the canvas, and you can see extra parts of the center on both the far left and right
• the unique spike trap can be set off again while its pressed into the wall from the back of it
• ghost players become clearly visible from far distances due to the games LoD system (idk if this is fixable)
• 5 million default footstep causers (minor, not very important)

[midnight sapphire]

5 million default footstep causers (minor, not very important)

Eh?

What?

[ember prawn]

most of the stuff of the moon and interior just have default footsteps

the feint wooden ones

[grim bridge]

do oobl ghosts not just move toward the player?

[ember prawn]

so they like
circle around them weirdly

[midnight sapphire]

That's intentional

[ember prawn]

and if you try to get close to one they dont do anything

[midnight sapphire]

At least for the interior

Isn't the moon footsteps a LunarConfig issue?

[grim bridge]

overlapping their hitbox doesn't cause you to take damage?

that's odd, that didnt show up in testing

[ember prawn]

no

[midnight sapphire]

?? They were working fine for me without it

[ember prawn]

this has always been a thing on ooblterra

[midnight sapphire]

Uh

[ember prawn]

i didnt say everything has default footsteps

[midnight sapphire]

If you're referring to the structures having wooden footsteps tied to them, then yes, that's intended

[grim bridge]

to be clear, the only footstep sound we've ever customized is the one for the planet

the squishy one when youre on the surface

are footstep sounds not otherwise determined by object type?

[ember prawn]

doesnt the main entrance room use different footsteps from default though

[grim bridge]

because im pretty sure we tag objects properly as metal, etc

[ember prawn]

no

[grim bridge]

possibly, im not certain

but I can go back and lint through all the tiles

[midnight sapphire]

Also, since Crafty is about radio silent rn, is compatibility with LunarConfig planned at all?

I believe it's technically his ballpark to fix, but then again, Ooblterra is very unstable with a lot of mods due to just how independent its features are

[grim bridge]

Dee's opened an issue about it on the git repo, so I assume it's on his radar

[midnight sapphire]

We need to do more On Your Hands fanart

Btw how is your other project going?

The new game

[harsh saddle]

what's this about a map schema?

[grim bridge]

We redid the map to add a countour map to the overworld, and tile highlights to the dungeon

since that's how LC does the map now

that changed somewhere between v68 and v73

[harsh saddle]

also hi this is my cool oble original character do not steal ill sue and kill and you the you

[grim bridge]

youre always welcome back in the skeleton studios server. in fact everyones welcome in the skeleton studios server. please join our server

in terms of next projects we've unfortunately decided to go back to square one. Delta Perspective development was having a really hard time and it was better for us to shelve it

[midnight sapphire]

I feel like we did something stupid there and left out of guilt, but yeah, sure

[midnight sapphire]

Ah

[grim bridge]

I'm really excited about our next project and im really excited to end up showing it off

[midnight sapphire]

Yipee

On Your Hands was a blast, we're excited for what y'all have next

Take your time tho ofc

[grim bridge]

as always itll be something well worth everyone's time and attention

I kinda want to start talking about it right now but im holding myself back

[fallen sable]

[ember prawn]

currently compressing a video

oh my fucking god why is my bandwidth genuinely degrading over time

[midnight sapphire]

The rot

[thick kayak]

I installed Welcome to Ooblterra! and when i landed VEGA gave some errors and it forever loaded, and when i removed VEGA, and landed lethalmin gave some errors and forever loaded, note i did not land on Ooblterra! at all

[ember prawn]

heres the painting thing i was talking about i guess

[fallen sable]

Shit and I was gonna re-enable it on my ultra modded modpack

I’ve had it disabled for months on end

But seeing these issues

imma wait a bit

[thick kayak]

I need to test with those 3

[ember prawn]

yeah i have to apologize if its overwhelming

guys its almost done compressing holy shit!!!

3 things shown in one video

oh and the really awesome thing about the specific floor i showed not having stone footsteps or whatever theyre called
this specific tile with the metal cart (btw no metal footsteps on that) with the exact same floor does have it

spike trap thing i mentioned

and the ghost player LoD thing

[brave spindle]

it's by tag

[brave spindle]

iirc metal tag doesn't work properly, it just makes the sound of the tag of the object below it

so if a rock is tagged as metal and it's above terrain that's tagged as snow, it'll sound like snow

also don't let the amount of reports overwhelm y'all ;P

I'm sure you're used to it since you've developed whole ass games, but there's nothing a few quick patches can't fix- esp when it comes to footstep stuff

[rustic shell]

i think its less the object below it and more so just hte previous object you were stepping on

[brave spindle]

oh is that how it works?

makes sense

in any case this guide by s1ckboy's pretty good

#dev-moons message

[midnight sapphire]

Dropships not only do not play their cruiser theme here, but also the wires connecting it and the Cruiser are missing texture pink

[midnight sapphire]

@viral flint Ping just in case this gets swept under the rug

Also, please reduce the hitbox sizes of trees and make flowers destroyable via the Cruiser. The Cruiser is almost unplayable here; it took me 'till noon to reach main, and that's with Ooblterra's slower time.

[midnight sapphire]

The texture for the Alien Corpse Part is also bugged a lil' bit

[midnight sapphire]

It's mainly the flower petals and tree leaves that're the worst offenders here...

[brave spindle]

there's some guides on how to make stuff destructible by cruiser

lemme find it rq

#1260335790731558952 message

read from here

[viral flint]

thanks for this

[brave spindle]

no problem!

[left silo]

just note that the parent tag matters as of v70

as this determines whether now to play snowmen breaking effects or tree break effects

this also affects stuff like my modded vehicles, as i do a tag check to check "is this object a tree" and if yes, damage the car, if not (i.e. snowman or other) don't damage the car

[viral flint]

@grim bridge is this texturing as intended or do we need to adjust it?

[grim bridge]

definitely wrong

[midnight sapphire]

This cargo crate on the left here managed to make our truck do a fucking flip 😭

We didn't get it on footage unfortunately, but it happened

[obtuse raptor]

amazing drawing

[midnight sapphire]

Lol, ty

Also managed to capture an enforcer doing something for once

Pretty sure their AI was broken previously, or at least almost passive

They made us jump in our chair to say the least

We were not expecting that, lol

[viral flint]

so small update is that we have a mostly(?) working version of v80 to work from, and I will start porting WTO to that in the coming days.
all bugfixes will start once the port to v80 is finished

oh right also @obtuse raptor I wanted to ask you a few things:

I had to apply a pretty big hack to LLL 1.6.8 to get WTO to load after the first attempt. I think something is wrong with LLL's caching of scene bundles, because it freezes on the LAN/Online selection after the second launch of LC. The first launch is fine. I can kick it out of this state with some ungodly code that eventually forces an AssetBundleInfo.TryLoadBundle() https://github.com/Skeleton-Studios/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/blob/b01e8b1dcc67cdc9eb2d051f63fbb21ebc16d837/Properties/Plugin.cs#L218
I want to check if I'm somehow doing something wrong with how I'm creating the WTO scene bundle, or if this is something that needs to be fixed on LLL's end

also a second thing, pls update LLL github 🙏 🙏 it's quite out of date 😭

[obtuse raptor]

I haven’t touched LLL in awhile, paco has been maintaining it

This might be a bad initial take but I’m assuming it’s on your end just off knowing a majority of moon mods do not need to do whatever that code is doing(?)

[viral flint]

I thought so too, but we don't do anything special with our scene bundle, and I tried to trace the issue through a decomp of LLL and it does seem to be an issue that the event to allow the main LC lan/online scene to load is not being fired.
I can provide a reproduction, and there also seem to be a few issues on LLL github that bring up the same symptoms

Also alright I can speak to paco about it - who were they on here?

[brave spindle]

@exotic temple sorry to lunx you but you've been mentioned and wanted to make sure communication went down about this ;P

[exotic temple]

Whar

[exotic temple]

I've been pushin to here for the moment: https://github.com/pacoito123/LC_LethalLevelLoader

[exotic temple]

Also I make it so scene bundles are skipped when loading at the start (since they will be hotloaded later), but does WTO need its scene bundle always loaded or somethin?

[viral flint]

Ill get a reproduction working after I get home from work.
WTO shouldn't need the scene bundle to always be loaded, so its possible im flagging something incorrectly somewhere

[exotic temple]

Yee no rush

Updating LLL to v80 anyway

[viral flint]

I wish you good luck 😂

[exotic temple]

Oh I mean it's interiors that are goofed pretty much

[viral flint]

alright, i have a cut down test here I can show you.

r2modman profile. I've removed all the WTO scripts from this and it literally just contains the scene bundle.

the first load resulted in this log, which loaded into the main menu correctly:

the second load does this, and is not able to get past the online/lan menu:

this is after it creates the scenebundles.txt file

if I delete that file, it loads correctly

the problem that appears to be happening is that the blocker that LLL puts in place to prevent the main scene from loading is never released, because an internal event is not getting fired.

LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundles.AssetBundleLoader::LoadAllBundles in this function, there's this block of code at the bottom (note: this is from a decompilation):

        if (requestedBundleCount > 0)
        {
            OnBeforeProcessBundles.Invoke();
            OnBundleLoaded.AddListener(ProcessInitialBundleLoading);
            {
                foreach (AssetBundleInfo info in Instance.AssetBundleInfos)
                {
                    if (knownSceneBundles.TryGetValue(info.AssetBundleFileName, out var bundleManifest))
                    {
                        if (bundleManifest.timestamp == File.GetLastWriteTime(info.AssetBundleFilePath).Ticks)
                        {
                            DebugHelper.Log("Skipping streaming bundle '" + bundleManifest.bundleName + "', as it will be loaded later!", DebugType.User);
                            info.Initialize();
                            requestedBundleCount--;
                            processedBundleCount++;
                            continue;
                        }
                        DebugHelper.Log("Found different version of bundle '" + bundleManifest.bundleName + "', it will not be skipped.", DebugType.User);
                    }
                    info.TryLoadBundle();
                }
                return;
            }
        }
        DebugHelper.Log("No Bundles Found!", DebugType.User);
        AllowLoading = true;
        OnBundlesFinishedProcessing.Invoke();

that return is the problem - it prevents OnBundlesFinishedProcessing from every being invoked if every entry in Instance.AssetBundleInfos hits the continue statement

and thus LLL just hangs forever

[exotic temple]

o

That doesn't run immediately, OnBundleLoaded gets invoked later

But yeah I can take a look at what's goin on

[viral flint]

ah but since no bundles get loaded with TryLoadBundle() the OnBundleLoaded event also never gets invoked

[exotic temple]

LLL v80 do be out but you still cannot patch project + LethalLib is not updated either

[viral flint]

yeah, this is slightly out of date code

[exotic temple]

Should be pretty much the same

[viral flint]

yeah minus the decompilation noise

though the logic appears to be the same from what I can see

[exotic temple]

If I had to guess it's probably somethin with how the moon is being bundled

[viral flint]

but basically if you just try and start with that profile 7z file I sent before, you should be able to see the problem pretty quick

[exotic temple]

Yeah

[viral flint]

even if this is the case, LLL should probably not hang if it can be avoided. forcing a TryLoadBundle does fix the problem too

though, I would like to know if I'm missing anything in the way I built the scene bundle, because I don't think I did anything special

[viral flint]

thank you btw 🙏

[exotic temple]

Oh wait there's just one .lethalbundle?

Does it have like the ExtendedMod and stuff as well as the scene?

Actually I guess I can extract it to check

[viral flint]

that bundle contains literally just the scene

and whatever extra stuff that unity pulls in automatically

[exotic temple]

Oh huh

[viral flint]

everything else is in content

[exotic temple]

I do wonder if it could just be that it does not end in .lethalbundle lol

Probably not

I gotta downgrade game I forgor

[viral flint]

yeah i made the same mistake 😂

also downgrade LLL to 1.6.8

[exotic temple]

Yeah

[viral flint]

this is the asset bundle browser for it: (ignore the terminaldesktop bundle though)

[exotic temple]

Weird, on a profile with just WTO it seems to be fine:

[Info   :   BepInEx] Loading [LethalLevelLoader 1.6.8]
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] LethalLevelLoader loaded!!
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] evaisa.lethallibfound, enabling compatability patches.
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Config Level Set As: User
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] LethalBundleManger: Starting!
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] LethalBundleManger: Now Loading Bundles!
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Skipping streaming bundle 'lllscene', as it will be loaded later!
[Info   :   BepInEx] Loading [Welcome To Ooblterra 2.0.0]
[Info   :SkullCrusher.WTO] =======[WTOBase]: Loading CustomMoon/OoblterraExtendedLevel.asset...=======
[Info   :SkullCrusher.WTO] =======[WTOBase]: Loading CustomDungeon/Data/OoblLabExtendedDungeonFlow.asset...=======
[Info   :SkullCrusher.WTO] =======[WTOBase]: Loading CustomDungeon/Behaviors/ChargedBattery.prefab...=======
[Info   :SkullCrusher.WTO] =======[WTOBase]: Loading CustomDungeon/Behaviors/DrainedBattery.prefab...=======
... (loading assets)
[Message:   BepInEx] Chainloader startup complete
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] lllscene.lethalbundle Loaded (11.05s)!
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Finished Processing Bundles!
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] LethalBundleManger Recieved Group: Lllscene
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] LethalBundleManger Finished Requested Load
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Custom Content Processed. Unlocking Main Menu.
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] lllscene.lethalbundle Unloaded (8.22s)

Bundle is skipped from being loaded but it continues just fine

Although it's not really being skipped now that I think about it, it do load it lol

Weird

[viral flint]

ah

sorry yes this will happen

remove the WTO dll file

I added a patch for it that forces TryLoadBundle if it detects the loading freeze

https://github.com/Skeleton-Studios/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/blob/b01e8b1dcc67cdc9eb2d051f63fbb21ebc16d837/Properties/Plugin.cs#L218

[exotic temple]

Oh yeah I see

[exotic temple]

@viral flint I was half-joking with this but it does appear to work 💀

LLL do look for .lethalbundle for ExtendedMods to determine stuff to register

I'm guessing ExtendedMod was not being created early enough maybe?

You should bundle the ExtendedMod into a separate bundle that only contains that (and does end in .lethalbundle)

It be why moons typically have two bundles, one for the ExtendedMod and the other for the scene

[viral flint]

Yep

So its just content.lethalbundle?

[exotic temple]

Yeah it prooobably works

[viral flint]

Wow.. lol

[exotic temple]

Should also update references to content in the plugin, so it doesn't look for the older name

[viral flint]

Yep

Are there any changes to LLL you could make to make it robust to this maybe?

Just since right now it just freezes 😭

[exotic temple]

Uhhh not too sure actually lol

If it doesn't have .lethalbundle LLL doesn't look for it at all, so it can't throw a giant error for that

I do wonder if scene bundle being loaded at the start also loaded the other bundle or something 💀

Since the only thing I'm doing is skipping any bundles that I know are scenes (and should theoretically be fine to skip due to hotloading)

[viral flint]

Is it expecting to see both a scene bundle, and another bundle that contains an ExtendedMod asset?

Both with .lethalbundle extension

[exotic temple]

Sorta yeah

It's more of any bundle containing any ExtendedMod that should be registered, scene bundles are just a separate thing technically

[viral flint]

Mmm

[exotic temple]

I guess I could remove it from the scene bundle list if the name of the ExtendedMod doesn't match its bundle?

Lol

[viral flint]

Could you identify when you've got a scene bundle without an associated ExtendedMod asset?

Plus a warning print lol

[exotic temple]

I mean yeah

[viral flint]

Yeah something like this

Just to help identify what's wrong and prompt mod authors with how to fix

[exotic temple]

I'm surprised the ExtendedMod and stuff was being created correctly though, with only the scene bundle being directly loaded

Unless you were handling registering stuff through the plugin

[viral flint]

https://github.com/Skeleton-Studios/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/blob/b01e8b1dcc67cdc9eb2d051f63fbb21ebc16d837/Patches/MoonPatch.cs#L244

[exotic temple]

Ohh

[viral flint]

We call this on startup:

PatchedContent.RegisterExtendedLevel(OoblterraExtendedLevel);

[exotic temple]

I see then yeah

[viral flint]

Is that not how we should be doing it now?

[exotic temple]

I mean you can

But if the bundle ends with .lethalbundle it has its contents registered automatically

So yeah you can probably remove the calls to manually register content, assuming everything's listed in the ExtendedMod and stuff

[viral flint]

Alright cool

Ill do that for the next release

[exotic temple]

Also looking at the code for footsteps reminds me, you can probably look into DawnLib for some stuff: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamXiaolan/DawnLib/wiki

It does have working footsteps + stuff to mess with gravity

Don't need to convert the whole moon and stuff to it, though it does have a lot more configurability options just out of the box

[rustic shell]

if you dont convert the whole moon though you blow up :(

[viral flint]

Hey I wouldn't be opposed to it

Its only using what it currently uses now because thats how it was written originally

Like 2 years ago

[rustic shell]

if you do decide to do it lemme know what you think if there's stuff you like or dislike about it :p the workflows should be super similar though

[viral flint]

You're the author of dawnlib?

[frail pumice]

No i am 😈

(yes she is)

[rustic shell]

ye

[viral flint]

Owah

Im in the presence of royalty 🧎‍♂️

(I wanted to move to dawnlib after I got WTO functional again 😂 )

[rustic shell]

loooool

[viral flint]

Is lethal lib actively supported still?

[rustic shell]

yeah i maintain it, im just working on the patcher rn

your rpc diff didnt work so im still in that hell 🥲

[viral flint]

It didnt??

[rustic shell]

nope, i think it never errored for you because you didnt have the DunGen dlls

so those errors came first

[viral flint]

Hmm

Well I ended up with a working project though

[rustic shell]

dam, u sure u posted the full diffs then?

[viral flint]

Yep

[rustic shell]

it didnt seem like you did anything other than checking for new attribute

[viral flint]

Yes thats right, thats all it needed to get the Rpc stuff to work

[rustic shell]

huh, wonder why it didnt work for me

its just gonna end up being something stupid like im replacing the files incorrectly

its been a while since i worked on updating it when v73 came out so i've completely forgotten lol

[viral flint]

so what I did was

• move the unity project patcher dependencies into the unity Packages directory, applied the patch, opened unity (to generate the sln), closed unity, then re-built the sln with visual studio
• re-open unity, run the project patcher as normal from the UI inside unity
• click ignore every time it prompted me that there was a script error
• once the patcher finished, copy in the DunGen dlls
• ran the missing script repair a bunch of times to patch up all the missing dungen script references

[exotic temple]

Is it the funny thing where it says it's in both assemblies at the same time?

[rustic shell]

Unity Packages directory? rn they're in packagecache, where did you put em?

[rustic shell]

nah this is smthn else

[viral flint]

ahhhhh that's probs why it didn't work

[exotic temple]

Oh alright

[viral flint]

unity has a Packages directory that you can put dependencies in, so that they become buildable projects on disk

[rustic shell]

oh i see it, so how'd you use it?