Mimics v2.7.4

[mint arrow]

As I'm about to rename my current interior name and create a new one too

[jagged hill]

That sounds like a better idea than trying to whitelist every interior

[steel karma]

For some reason mimics wont work for me

it worked before but everytime I try to go through a fake fire exit it just does nothing

[jagged hill]

Anything in the log?

[steel karma]

no

it does not say anything

and it breaks my other interacts

so I cant take off the ship or use the terminal

[jagged hill]

How big is the modpack?

[steel karma]

219 mods

but it was working before

[jagged hill]

Might need to just take out half your mods, check if it still happens, repeat if there's nothing in the logs.

[balmy seal]

got this error when trying to land on flicker (facility/factory interior).

Full logs

[jagged hill]

Unfortunately I have no idea how I'd figure out which variable caused that error

I'm pretty sure IL_0852 is around MimicsAPI.MainAPI.OnMimicCreated(component, doorway2);

[balmy seal]

i recently added a mod that adds a moon and interior then this happen. I'll just remove it

[modest verge]

I just had a bug where the fire exit didn’t show any signs of being a mimic, I tried opening it multiple times and it didn’t work, but then a mimic spawned on top of the fire exit?

So there was a mimic overlapping the pre-existing fire exit.

[jagged hill]

What interior was it?

Any errors in the log?

[modest verge]

Mansion. Didn’t get the log, unfortunately. I was quitting out and reloading a lot, which seemed to cause some issues (like door assets appearing in the wrong interiors).

[jagged hill]

if that's happening I don't think there's any reasonable way I can address it with Mimics.

[fluid sapphire]

How do i See differenz betwemm mimic and real

[bitter lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-doge-gif-24837098

Blunt trauma to the door

[jagged hill]

experiment

[fluid sapphire]

.. but i dont wanna die xD

[fluid sapphire]

Ahhhh xX

[jagged hill]

there's no real visual difference but the way it interacts with various objects / game mechanics can let you differentiate them

[fluid sapphire]

its just killed me

i hit it atk then i got eaten

xD

[spice whale]

Will the mimic ever be compatible with the mines interior

[cursive radish]

The mines do their fire exits a bit differently than the other two vanilla ones. I think they’d almost need like a custom version of mimics and perhaps their own spawning code but not certain on that.

of course I am not the dev so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jagged hill]

you're spot on, Mimics will likely not ever be compatible with the mines for this reason.

[polar rivet]

Do you think you’ll ever try playing with rendertextures and/or some sort or baked effect ever or probably just keeping this mod on life support atp?

[jagged hill]

I tried stencils and a few other things to work around these issues but in the end I couldn't find a way to set it up without sacrificing quality. I'd rather it only appear in certain interiors (which I think some monsters do in vanilla anyway so it makes sense) than be more common but have visible issues.

Specifically I couldn't guarantee that materials for scrap / monsters / materials wouldn't interfere with any solution I found, which kind of defeated the purpose of doing it for compatibility with other modded content anyway.

[balmy seal]

sorry for interruption. the mod I'm telling here is Tranquillity. removing it from the whitelist fixes the issue for me

[polar rivet]

For this at least I feel like compatibility is a two way street, if mods want mimics to work right they can play ball with material restrictions

[jagged hill]

ah yeah that's what the whitelist is for, so by default nothing breaks and the user can adjust it if they're willing to experiment.

[balmy seal]

i like their interior. sad that the mimic wont spawn there

[jagged hill]

What kind of interior is it? I don't see any screenshots on the mod's page.

Been looking for new interiors to try with my friends.

[balmy seal]

its a manor + facility hybrid

factory?

[polar rivet]

Check out generics interior for a clean vanilla feeling one

[balmy seal]

going in from the main entrance its mansion first then some stairs leading into factory/facility

[jagged hill]

that looks really promising

[balmy seal]

using that too! are the mimic fire exits can spawn there?

[spice whale]

Sadly not

[steel karma]

[18:05:38.4793860] [Error : Unity Log] ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
Parameter name: index
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.List1[T].get_Item (System.Int32 index) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0009) Mimics.MimicNetworker.MimicAttackClientRpc (System.Int32 playerId, System.Int32 mimicIndex) (at <d951953ff26e47479705fcb20a09452d>:IL_00D5) Mimics.MimicNetworker.MimicAttack (System.Int32 playerId, System.Int32 mimicIndex, System.Boolean ownerOnly) (at <d951953ff26e47479705fcb20a09452d>:IL_0008) Mimics.MimicDoor.TouchMimic (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB player) (at <d951953ff26e47479705fcb20a09452d>:IL_0008) UnityEngine.Events.InvokableCall1[T1].Invoke (T1 args0) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0010)
UnityEngine.Events.UnityEvent`1[T0].Invoke (T0 arg0) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0025)
InteractTrigger.Interact (UnityEngine.Transform playerTransform) (at <bdf6a080e98a49fd84b92b24894f768c>:IL_00B7)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::ClickHoldInteraction>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::Update>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)

it does not let me interact after unless I pick up a item

here is my code 0194704d-b590-f705-10ce-9f5a5ddcd10b

[jagged hill]

that's interesting, I'll look into it later today if I remember

[steel karma]

@jagged hill its still happening [21:21:50.2582769] [Error : Unity Log] ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
Parameter name: index
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.List1[T].get_Item (System.Int32 index) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0009) Mimics.MimicNetworker.MimicAttackClientRpc (System.Int32 playerId, System.Int32 mimicIndex) (at <d951953ff26e47479705fcb20a09452d>:IL_00D5) Mimics.MimicNetworker.MimicAttack (System.Int32 playerId, System.Int32 mimicIndex, System.Boolean ownerOnly) (at <d951953ff26e47479705fcb20a09452d>:IL_0008) Mimics.MimicDoor.TouchMimic (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB player) (at <d951953ff26e47479705fcb20a09452d>:IL_0008) UnityEngine.Events.InvokableCall1[T1].Invoke (T1 args0) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0010)
UnityEngine.Events.UnityEvent`1[T0].Invoke (T0 arg0) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0025)
InteractTrigger.Interact (UnityEngine.Transform playerTransform) (at <bdf6a080e98a49fd84b92b24894f768c>:IL_00B7)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::ClickHoldInteraction>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::Update>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)

[spice whale]

im not sure if im remebering things wrong but i swear at one point in time the mimic was like jeb before getting it's own model

[steel karma]

whats jeb

[spice whale]

the company monster

[jagged hill]

That was the plan originally but I think my artist was fast enough that I had a model before I had the code

oh wait no it was a unity sphere

[spice whale]

huh

i thought at one point it was jeb that was being used

maybe it the mandela effect11!11!11!!1

[steel karma]

I'm getting this error now with the mimics. It lets me interact but once the interact circle fills nothing happens

[jagged hill]

Does picking up an item still fix it?

do you have any mods that add like a fake player or anything?

or anything that might increase the size of the player array

[steel karma]

I dont think so

[steel karma]

Here is my modpack code 019495ed-af73-c3d6-bd08-fca239e84d38

[tardy thorn]

I have the same problem ( interact with the door and nothing happens). I'm trying to figure out what mod it conflicts with.
But sometimes it works when you are near the door and when the mimic activates there's another fire exit behind it (and I think that's the problem).

[tardy thorn]

Find the problem, there is a conflict between Mimic + Control Company + some moon mods (Example Sanguine,Terminus).

Test done whit this test modpack: 0194a7d1-8a9a-88d4-3aad-886b6e96afc5

• Mimics + Control Company + Sanguine: give log error (see attached file) and the mimic door don't open, some time work but there is a fire exit behind a fire exit when the mimic door open.

• Mimics + Control Company + Sanguine Disabled: Works whitout problems, no log error

• Mimics + Sanguine + Control Company Disabled Works whitout problems, no log error

[jagged hill]

I'll give it some testing then see if I can fix it myself or if I should raise an issue with ControlCompany

[jagged hill]

I think it might actually be an issue with LLL and certain moons

[onyx panther]

I had an issue with mimics not working either but for me it was a whole different issue. When I disabled wesleys moons it was fixed but I have plenty of other LLL used moons. Why did it fix everything just from disabling this one thing? (Cause for some reason having that one thing enabled breaks all of my control company and ship windows and mimics. I STILL DONT KNOW WHY!)

[jagged hill]

My guess is whatever breaks things doesn't happen 100% of the time, and you've just gotten lucky / unlucky that it didn't occur when something was enabled / disabled.

Or perhaps it's timing based and the timings were off because of an extra mod being enabled / disabled.

Right now, it looks like Sanguine has an issue where either Patches.RoundManager.dungeonGenerator or DungeonManager.CurrentExtendedDungeonFlow is unset when PrepareDungeon() in LLL is executed.

Sanguine + ControlCompany + Mimics and it's still working as intended 🤔

[onyx panther]

Just did a fresh save file, one that I enabled Wesley's moons. I was on March with the vanilla facility interior with 3 fire exits on, and I went to a mimic fire exit door, and it just didn't open. There is no chance it just happens all the time with that one mod enabled. It could just be entirely LLL, but I don't know from my experience.

With it enabled the door would sometimes open but with a 2nd fire exit covering it

and sometimes just wouldn't let me open it at all when finishing the circle

[jagged hill]

You have the full Wesleys_Moons pack?

[onyx panther]

correct

For some reason that one mod breaks almost everything for me and I still don't understand why

Cause I thought "Hey I remember this mod I should add it!" Then the moon pack broke it.

Let me try a fresh pack

COMPLETELY fresh pack.

lethaldev + control company + wesleys moon pack with all the required stuff + mimics

[jagged hill]

Okay I definitely just recreated the error on Sanguine with Wesleys_Moons and Control Company installed

[onyx panther]

I'm glad I'm not crazy about this then

cause I was wondering why all the mods started to break for no reason (cause before the big update with the moon pack every mod worked fine including yours around the time with it enabled)

[jagged hill]

My rcommendation so far is remove ControlCompany

[knotty marsh]

Wesley's Moons all use a unique script that Jacob made atm and I think Control Company doesn't like it, this isn't on Wesley to fix at the end of the day it's on Control Company

[onyx panther]

alrighty then!

[jagged hill]

I couldn't find a way to patch ControlCompany to work with Mimics and Wesley's :(

[balmy seal]

getting this error with combination of these mods

[jagged hill]

welp I guess it's not just ControlCompany

[balmy seal]

follow up 😊

got fixed in LI side

[jagged hill]

@last cargo any tips on how to fix this from Mimics side? I don't really understand the problem too well

[last cargo]

erm.. i think i fixed it already, i did testing... just havent released yet.. (see the DLL in the picture linked)

all i know is i tested with this pack (replacing with the DLL i shared in place of the LI DLL.. and all seemed to work fine
#1240985198485573743 message

but i dont use mimics or lethalthings, so let me know if anything is still busted.

sorry, this profile, forgot to send the code
0194c293-68bc-5e87-c33e-320f11b01b00

but yeah, from what i could tell, with default settings (except turning mimics up to 100 on max mimics) on all mods, everything seemed to work fine from my POV with that updated DLL (LI v0.4.4.1)

[jagged hill]

The issue seems to occur with some other mod combinations (Wesleys Moons + ControlCompany + Mimics) so I'm really not sure what the issue is.

Did you patch anything related to SetExitIDs?

[last cargo]

oh... does it.. i was told just LI + Mimics + LethalThings.

[jagged hill]

I see you're calling SetExitIDs early here

[last cargo]

so.. what i fixed... at my end,.. was this..

basically.. i was calling "SetExitIDs" early... this was breaking ButteryFixes "fire exit rotations" on the host (which made sense, as i was calling it a second time on the host.. and buttery fixes just flips you 180, so 180+180 = it changes it back..

with the DLL i uploaded (linked above) i fixed that.. and i used that to test with mimics + lethalthings..and it all seemed to work fine

all i did was make a manual implementation of "SetExitID" instead of re-running the vanilla method

what i will say is, i saw some WEIRD behaviour in 0.4.3->0.4.4 of my mod.

with 0.4.4 - this was broken
with 0.4.3 - this was fine

but the code changed before in 0.3.8.. so why it only broke in 0.4.4 i have no clue... either way seemed fixed now from changing that on my end.

(for LI/Mimics/LethalThings, tho my familiarity maybe making me miss something)

[last cargo]

going back to this. uh.. what i was thinking for fixing me breaking another mod, wwas originally, to set my mod to check if the code had run before, and if it had run before... then to not run again, but i was suggested to duplicate the method instead (which i thought wouldent work).

basically..

bool alreadyRan = false;

private void patchMethod()
{
    if(alreadyRan)
    {
      return;
    }
    //my patching code
    alreadyRan = true
}

for my end it would have stopped SetExitIDs() from running a second time later.. but i think that wouldent have fixed things, but maybe applying it to your patch may help.. although.. if they are modifying the fire exits.. then maybe it wont help.

for wesley's moons, he uses 2 different things for the Entrances...

1 - a graphical object to represent the Entrance
2 - an invisible trigger BEHIND the entrance which is the EntranceTeleport

I found this out because i tried to use VISION of the EntranceTeleport to get masked to use them.. but, they couldent see wesley's

so thatmaybe why your getting issues with Wesleys moons, dont know about the interiors though.

[steel karma]

@jagged hill Is there a guide on how to add mimics if someone is making an interior mod?

[jagged hill]

No guide, but it basically comes down to:

• Make sure your fire exits are in a similar hierarchy to the vanilla first two interiors
• Make sure there's a cutout behind them that can be removed like the vanilla first two interiors
• Add it to the interior whitelist in the cfg (or add a patch in your mod to force it in)

[spice whale]

Do you plan on making an interior?

[steel karma]

no I was just asking so that I could ask interior creators and give them a video

[spice whale]

Oh

Ok

[steel karma]

@jagged hill Could you fix this, anytime someone emotes they can put their camera through the wall and see if its a mimic.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/FlipMods/TooManyEmotes/

[jagged hill]

that's not really something I can fix

[steel karma]

The emote camera will not go through normal walls

[jagged hill]

oh

hmm

[steel karma]

normal wall

Mimic wall

[jagged hill]

It looks like it'll still be slightly different no matter what

maybe I can make it eat you if you dance

[steel karma]

Yeah that would be amazing.

[simple yarrow]

Hey, I'm just wondering if this mod still works. I heard something of it not working with Wesley's

[buoyant plinth]

it's interior dependant, not moon dependant

[simple yarrow]

I know that, I was just seeing if the mod still holds up or if there are problems nowadays

[buoyant plinth]

devs effectively have to add their own compat, afaik

[buoyant plinth]

0 issues on my side

[cursive radish]

Yeah I don’t know if Wesley made his compatible but it works on the vanilla ones (well, not mineshaft), CabIn, one of the office ones I think is already listed in its config, and probably some others. Like Monty said, interior devs have to make it compatible (by basically just doing what the facility and mansion do tbh)

[jagged hill]

It just won't ever spawn on most modded interiors but it definitely adds a little spice to the original 2

[buoyant plinth]

it esp makes mansion a bit more unique

[spice whale]

Fun fact: mimics used to spawn on incompatible modded interiors

Or at least it spawned in the old war bunker interior

[simple yarrow]

I had mimics spawn on the scp facility before

Though it used the default textures and not the scp doors

[hasty osprey]

There’s a few interiors where they have the right spawn conditions yeah

But don’t work that well because of custom fire exit or too large of cutouts

[cursive radish]

Yeah, CabIn is kind of like that. The fire exits are the vanilla ones but I gave them a bit of a custom frame so when it's a mimic you can tell because the extra frame part isn't there

at least they can spawn and there isn't like a weird hole in the wall lol, so that's why I say that they technically work

[spice whale]

@jagged hill can i have a screenshot of the mimic's bestiary entry

too lazy to get it myself

nevermind

sorry

[jagged hill]

Everything good on the new patch?

[drifting flame]

not sure yet. I just re added to my pack as I pulled it a few months back to let everyone thing they were safe xD now I put it in and told no one.

[cursive radish]

https://tenor.com/view/ferass18-gif-7869831930024597864

[weary mica]

you sure?

you're lucky you always play too late for me

[drifting flame]

Lets find a day you can join!

Also can say no one has found the door yet D: I hope it did not break.

[weary mica]

It'd have to be a day where you could somehow play at minimum before my midnight (at best a few hours before) which I get mightn't be easy with your job

idk your timezone so lemme get a timestamp

[knotty marsh]

Same timezone as me I believe but idk, he does stream late though so it's fine if you can't ever join him

[weary mica]

Yeah okay so it'd be 5 hours behind me

[knotty marsh]

Maybe longer, I don't remember if he's on EST for certain

[weary mica]

i got the timestamp anyway, my midnight would be <t:1749078000:t>

[knotty marsh]

Yeah and that is the time he usually starts at if not later

LOL

[weary mica]

While I technically could play past that if I was already playing before that I'd rather not start past that LMAO

[weary mica]

and yeah

unfortunate

[knotty marsh]

I mean it's just how things be, he has a job that makes a certain schedule work well for him

[weary mica]

Yeah

don't blame him for it at all

[knotty marsh]

I was surprised you were vcing with Xu last night on her stream cus that was well past your midnight

lol

[weary mica]

Yeah that's fair, she mentioned she was live and I hopped on vc for a while for funnies after a bit

then time just kinda. passed

LMAO

I wasn't expecting to be there long

[drifting flame]

Im central, but over the weekend im off so I can plan an earlier lobby. I just got in the habit of late streams cause even if im home during the day im technically on call and could have to leave so I usually just wait till later to avoid that. Plus some days I end up having a much longer day than anticipated so when I do get home im just like nah I got no energy today. Ill dm ya

Also one of my players informed me they did find the mimic door, they were one of two people who knew I re added it so they knew how to check the door 😆 said they had one growl at him so he walked away and kept quiet

[weary mica]

honestly valid

[jagged hill]

Mimics v2.7.0

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/x753/Mimics/

Updated for v71 of Lethal Company (the lockpickers were bugged)

If someone could test online multiplayer and confirm everything works that would give me peace of mind

[drifting flame]

Told a player fire exit here, and he proceeded to exit and was devoured. 10/10 works well 😀 would send more friend that way.

Thanks for the update btw. Been one of my oldest and most favorite mods. Its a great one to rotate to keep people guessing. In fact I learned some of my players were still checking doors even though it had been gone for awhile this time cause they knew one day id sneak it back in 😆

[runic otter]

mimic update???

oh wait

is it a reupload?

seems like it

[signal bridge]

anyone else getting a bug where they repeatedly attack on mansion interiors?

[buoyant plinth]

ive had em activate on mansoin interiors at random I think, probably getting triggered by sound?

[karmic dome]

I think I got that same bug. I thought it was just mansion interiors for me, but then I noticed it happening on other interiors anytime there was a turret near them. Not sure if either of you have FairAI in your pack, but that's what it was for me.

[runic otter]

i dont recall having that issue, and i do not have fairai!!!

could fair ai be the culprit? lets find out

https://tenor.com/view/ben-deen-let's-find-out-crispiest-fries-discuss-hear-me-out-gif-46202971802719243

[karmic dome]

This was me testing it out in just a pack with FairAI and Mimics.

[runic otter]

angy door

[karmic dome]

It got me this great moment with the group though.
There was a turret nearby in that run too. Towards the back.

[runic otter]

ngl randomly activating mimic doors is kinda cool ngl, either that or having an anger meter

[karmic dome]

Yeah, I was torn on whether or not I wanted to keep it in.

[cursive radish]

Yeah, toned down some it could be cool

[zenith flume]

what mod adds the cool death screen thingy

and holy shit when was the mimic voice that loud i jumped outta my seat 😭

[buoyant plinth]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1390114237774434304

[runic otter]

It has always been loud hehe

[crystal delta]

I had a funny idea for how i think the mimic would look if he were an outside enemy waiting for his food

[runic otter]

Thats way too cute

[crystal delta]

exactly

but the funny part is that is throat can eject like a moray eel, explaining why the mimic looks like that

but the idea behind this guy is basically a creature that targets real fire exits AND the main entrance instead of making fake ones

[hollow hamlet]

Oh shit that sound awesome

You should make it

[crystal delta]

I might be able to model it but I can't code or animate at all lol

[hollow hamlet]

You could create a thread or ask to the code rebirth guys ahah

[runic otter]

he is a code rebirth guy

[crystal delta]

true

[deep turret]

Could you add compatibility with Lc Office double fireexit door?

[buoyant plinth]

office has to add it iirc?

[runic otter]

Yes, but idk if the double firexit mimic has to be added by office or mimics

I would guess the office

[jagged hill]

I probably will not be adding any new types besides the default

[deep turret]

I asked that bc I saw a mimic remove a double doorframe from LC Office

[cursive radish]

Is that double fireexit door new-ish? Because iirc the mimic just replaces fire exits so if it's got a custom one now... compatability might not be that great anymore

[jagged hill]

Mimics v2.7.2

[half flame]

Could be an lc office issue since iirc the author needs to add mimic compatibility to their interior for this mod to work

[indigo pagoda]

the thing is, there "was" a compatibility before the big LCOffice update
(And IIRC, even before there was some small issues)

[half flame]

Yeahh and that double door wasn't accounted for was it?

[indigo pagoda]

and afaik in the config of the mimic mod, there is whitelisted LCOffice as a compatible interior

[half flame]

I haven't seen it before but deviating from the regular fire exit door was prolly a bad idea

I assume it's a remake feature?

[cursive radish]

It's been brought to my attention that ScarletDevilMansion has a custom fire exit. Somehow Mimics uses it instead of the red door. Is there something I can do to make my interior support a custom design for the mimics or was that something on SDM's side or something hardcoded into this mod for special compat?

[cursive radish]

oof. ok, well, perhaps I'll do it at some point

so it's that and it uses stuff in https://github.com/x753/Lethal-Company-Mimics/blob/87c097961217fa6ea87a1cd494d070642986ef8b/Lethal-Company-Mimics/Mimics.cs#L913C1-L914C1

interesting

[cedar wyvern]

any way to make mimics only spawn in certain moons?

not interiors, moons

trying to keep them to higher level places

[runic otter]

noup

[cedar wyvern]

:(

[runic otter]

:c

[deep turret]

?

GI has an option about being able to scan fire exits, and it has compatibility with mimics.

[red onyx]

We don’t like the question mark,,,

It makes mimic presence obvious

Plus just generally looks weird

It’d be nice if it could be optional without sacrificing not being able to scan fire exits

[deep turret]

Its probably GI that does that. And it checks if mimics mod is installed.

[balmy seal]

if you want what I do
I disabled that config on GI and installed ScannableFireExit by testaccount

[red onyx]

It is

But why did this guy tell me to ask the Mimics dev instead then 😭

Idk what’s going on man I’m just trying to ask a question and have it delivered to the right person,,,

[drifting flame]

Sorry I assumed it was something set up by this dev as it feels like it would be something from him not GI. Plus this dev is more active then the General Improvements dev at the moment. I think GI dev might be on a break again. I'd do the suggestion by the others or wait for 1 of the 2 devs to respond. Either way it is good practice to bring it to the attention of both if unsure whos actually making it happen.

@jagged hill do you know if its you adding the ? to fire exit scan nodes or GI?

[jagged hill]

You can scan fire exits?

[jagged hill]

I guess it'd be GI

[knotty marsh]

It’s GI I remember Shaosil saying he did that ages ago

[drifting flame]

Ah well I apologize then lol. I didnt think GI did that. I've also been running both for so long I don't really pay attention to the ? from scanning them lol.

[knotty marsh]

It's only if you use the fire exit scanning feature which I don't use since I feel it's kinda cheaty lol

[drifting flame]

I don't really mind it. Doesn't scan from across the map. Just when you're close. Helps people who are a little less experienced with the game. Typically too we have spray paint markings that lead the way anyways so 9 out of 10 times people really arent scanning for fire exits. Cheaty would be if you could scan them from halfway across the map lol.

Also on note with this mod it was in the past couple months I learned sound can trigger them too 😆 I never knew that was a feature till an item making sounds in front of one triggered it and jump scared the shit out of me.

[knotty marsh]

I very much didn't like how Better Scanner allows scanning through walls in LGU lmao, so yeah if you can't scan through walls it's fine

[drifting flame]

I think thats more on LGU as that was the intent of the upgrade. I keep forgetting about that upgrade when I play lol. Its so strong but I jacked its price up so high that I typically go without it unless I see a good deal on it.

Typically I go basic, Back Muscle, Bigger Lung, Running Shoes, and traction boots. Then Protien Powder for my big spending purchase as I like 2 tapping mimics.

[deep turret]

In this seed, every possible wall was replaced by a mimic.

[cursive radish]

It feels like it could be a bug, but it also could be a cool really low random chance thing

[crystal delta]

minor inconvenience

also you can just set a maximum amount of mimics

[cursive radish]

500 mimics

[crystal delta]

https://tenor.com/view/there-is-no-hope-there-is-no-hope-gif-13610811744268717441

[deep turret]

Looks like I had set it like that.

the last one

[shell flame]

Is it me or are the mimics like very rtx

Compared to other lc monsters

[deep turret]

its you

[hasty osprey]

Mimics broken in v80

I imagine just from DunGen being updated

[Error  : Unity Log] TypeLoadException: Could not resolve type with token 01000037 from typeref (expected class 'DunGen.Doorway' in assembly 'Assembly-CSharp, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null')
Stack trace:
System.Reflection.MonoMethodInfo.GetMethodInfo (System.IntPtr handle) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:0)
System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.GetPseudoCustomAttributes () (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:0)
System.MonoCustomAttrs.GetPseudoCustomAttributes (System.Reflection.ICustomAttributeProvider obj, System.Type attributeType) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:0)
System.MonoCustomAttrs.GetCustomAttributesBase (System.Reflection.ICustomAttributeProvider obj, System.Type attributeType, System.Boolean inheritedOnly) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:0)
System.MonoCustomAttrs.GetCustomAttributes (System.Reflection.ICustomAttributeProvider obj, System.Type attributeType, System.Boolean inherit) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:0)
System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.GetCustomAttributes (System.Type attributeType, System.Boolean inherit) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:0)
Mimics.Mimics.Awake () (at <29e1e9616ae74573a26d2282b9905555>:0)
UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type)
BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:Start()
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipelineAsset:OnEnable()```

[knotty marsh]

KillPlayer function will also prolly need updated

[jagged hill]

Updated to 2.7.3 for v81!

Mimics v2.7.3

[west basin]

holy fucking shit

753

is this

what I think it is

v80 mimics?

[jagged hill]

no v81

[west basin]

Oh

my fault gang

BUT LETS GOOOOOO

[jagged hill]

v80 was beta v81 is the public one

[west basin]

Yeah

Zeekerss

updated

the game

too fast

brain can’t catch up

[jagged hill]

There's a non-zero chance there'll be a bug since it looks like some stuff could've been changed so keep your eyes peeled

[west basin]

I will

oh yeah did anyone tell you about Fire Exits getting mad randomly in Mansion interiors?

[jagged hill]

No, they do get mad over sounds though so is it possible someone was being loud?

[west basin]

Hmmm

No idea

Wait what are Mimics truly considered?

Hazard or Monster?

[jagged hill]

it's a weird mix

[west basin]

oh boy

waaaaaait

if its a weird mix

[jagged hill]

I implemented them before any sort of enemy APIs were available

[west basin]

…

FariAi…???????

https://tenor.com/view/reidsonm-gif-21586450

cuz

I play with them in my ultra modded modpack alone

and they still get mad randomly without me being even close

[jagged hill]

interesting

my guess would be a weird interaction with another mod

[west basin]

I mean I could like

record it for you

if you want

If I even get what I’d want on v81

I need SelectableInteriors on v81

so I can just

get it anytime

[jagged hill]

If you can narrow down which mod does it I can look into compatibility

[west basin]

Maybe I could send logz if it happens

I’ll be sure to go to like Dine or something

I have the free moons mod in it so

tho with v81 and naturally breaking a lot of mods

when it was v80 beta initially

Im not sure if it’ll even happen anymore

Who knows

[cursive radish]

if just testing, Imperium lets you set interiors

[sleek fox]

@heady surge found one spawning in the middle of a tile

v80

[jagged hill]

uh oh

[heady surge]

Is it his first day?

[sour wharf]

Seems like he did not get the memo to hide on walls

[jagged hill]

Might be related to the fact that I had to stop using Calculate Proxy Bounds or something

you can see the change in the most recent GitHub commit

[heady surge]

Still doesn't answer the question if its his first day of being a Mimic : P

[jagged hill]

It very well might be

[heady surge]

Now thats what I like, Modders with a sense of humor. It makes you human afterall.

[jagged hill]

I'll look into the issue later tonight but I think the issue is the bounds checking code I replaced

[pulsar flax]

not sure if related but that tileset in the facility can have natural fire exits spawn now

[west basin]

Hey 753

I found somrthing

something*

really goof

[west basin]

FUCK

YOU ALREADY POSTED IT

GOD DAMNIT

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-crazy-crazy-cat-insane-cat-going-insane-gif-5752628082217795406

[heady surge]

THEY STOLE IT FROM ME I

So what was yours?

[heady surge]

THAT FIRST ANGLE LOOKS DAMN NEAR IDENTICAL TO MY SECOND SCREENSHOT

[west basin]

LUL

[knotty marsh]

I guess Mimics needs another update

lol

[heady surge]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[midnight eagle]

for me mimics mod would break mirage for some reason on v73(idk if the issue is still here)

[runic otter]

was a 3 mod issue

mimics mirage and brutal company

[jagged hill]

Mimics v2.7.4

Made a small fix

Please @ me if you guys find any more bad spawn locations after updating!

[midnight eagle]

yes you’re right

[steady wave]

is there a way to make mimics spawn on modded interiors?

[sleek fox]

there is a list on the config but

trust me

not worth it

unless an interior was designed for it (which besides SDM dont exist)

it will cause a lot of issues

[cursive radish]

CabIn did ok. I assume it still does. Now, because the fire exits there look a bit different they don’t blend in as well, but there’s no weird gaps or anything

[runic otter]

Ye ut whats the point if you can clearly see the differences hehe

[cursive radish]

some people are very blind

and it looks like devs can do something to change how mimics look (SDM does this). I want to do it one day, just haven't been able to

[west basin]

Check this out lmfao

I feel like this should be kept cuz its funny

[jagged hill]

ugh

[runic otter]

lol

[west basin]

Cmon ma- at least laugh a bit

Its funnnyyyyy

you gotta admit it is haha

[knotty marsh]

☠️

[steel karma]

@jagged hill
There is a cheat you can do with the emote mod

I think it has to do with the material of the fire exit compared to vanilla ones

[jagged hill]

I don't think I can do much about that one except I guess make them eat any emoters

might be something for the emote mod / another mod to implement

[steel karma]

Please do this, this would actually be so funny. lol

[west basin]

wait how tf did you move the utility slot?

[steel karma]

NicheTweaks

[west basin]

Oooooooooh nice!

Can you also have more utility slots or no?

[steel karma]

no but it lets you move it to the right

[west basin]

Still cool :D

[red onyx]

Why are mimics not compatible with mineshafts? :v

[sleek fox]

making mimics compatible with interiors aint easy

considering how long the "tile" is

it tends to clip into others

[red onyx]

It's been almost two years now, and there are tiles in which mimics wouldn't clip into each other... I think

Mineshaft generation got overhauled in v80, and I've seen less problematic-looking fire exits

At least a squizz would be nice since it's a vanilla interior

[sleek fox]

its not mimics clipping into eachother

[red onyx]

No

Mimics clipping into the interior I mean

[sleek fox]

its mimics clipping into other tiles

[red onyx]

Yes

[sleek fox]

anyways theyd have to change how mimics spawn then

bc they spawn in every place a normal fire exit can

and thats not happening since the mod is only being upkept and not added onto

[red onyx]

Unfortunate

[sleek fox]

only way I can see it happening is an addon

or a fork actually since MIT Licensed

[red onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1498527636920602696/1500682975715659796/Memz-Seal_1.gif

[harsh mica]

Wait in what interiors does the mimic even spawn in?

[sleek fox]

Facility and mansion

[deep turret]

Modded Compatible: only scarlet devil mansion

[harsh mica]

could it be that CIRCUS FACILITY also has compatiblity?

[sleek fox]

I dont think it had any NEW tiles so, maybe?

not by default tho

youd have to set it as a vailid spawn

[deep turret]

Its not about new tiles. If it has a wall that can be removed to replace a fire exit, mimics will be able to generate in that interior.

Of course you need to put the interior in that list

[runic otter]

Yes it has

Without needing to add it to the list

[west basin]

[deep turret]

Manor interior too

[runic otter]

Leubes interior

[west basin]

[cinder kelp]

dont you love these in maritopia