Lethal Things

[cursive oriole]

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.Object.Internal_InstantiateSingle (UnityEngine.Object data, UnityEngine.Vector3 pos, UnityEngine.Quaternion rot) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0000)
(wrapper dynamic-method) UnityEngine.Object.DMDUnityEngine.Object::Instantiate(UnityEngine.Object,UnityEngine.Vector3,UnityEngine.Quaternion)
UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate[T] (T original, UnityEngine.Vector3 position, UnityEngine.Quaternion rotation) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0001)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::SpawnEnemyGameObject(RoundManager,UnityEngine.Vector3,single,int,EnemyType)
RoundManager.SpawnEnemyOnServer (UnityEngine.Vector3 spawnPosition, System.Single yRot, System.Int32 enemyNumber) (at <066a7b7eb8c24d4facd1e255e669803f>:IL_0012)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::SpawnEnemyFromVent(RoundManager,EnemyVent)
RoundManager.SpawnInsideEnemiesFromVentsIfReady () (at <066a7b7eb8c24d4facd1e255e669803f>:IL_00BA)
RoundManager.Update () (at <066a7b7eb8c24d4facd1e255e669803f>:IL_001A)

[cursive oriole]

With LethalThings installed, I get this

[Info : Unity Log] Found enemy vent which has its time up: VentEntrance(Clone). Spawning Hoarding bug from vent.
[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.Object.Internal_InstantiateSingle (UnityEngine.Object data, UnityEngine.Vector3 pos, UnityEngine.Quaternion rot) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0000)
(wrapper dynamic-method) UnityEngine.Object.DMDUnityEngine.Object::Instantiate(UnityEngine.Object,UnityEngine.Vector3,UnityEngine.Quaternion)
UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate[T] (T original, UnityEngine.Vector3 position, UnityEngine.Quaternion rotation) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0001)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::SpawnEnemyGameObject(RoundManager,UnityEngine.Vector3,single,int,EnemyType)
RoundManager.SpawnEnemyOnServer (UnityEngine.Vector3 spawnPosition, System.Single yRot, System.Int32 enemyNumber) (at <066a7b7eb8c24d4facd1e255e669803f>:IL_0012)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::SpawnEnemyFromVent(RoundManager,EnemyVent)
RoundManager.SpawnInsideEnemiesFromVentsIfReady () (at <066a7b7eb8c24d4facd1e255e669803f>:IL_00BA)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::Update(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineRoundManager::Update?1879844064(RoundManager)
LethalThings.Patches.Debug.RoundManager_Update (On.RoundManager+orig_Update orig, RoundManager self) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/Patches/Debug.cs:121)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookRoundManager::Update?-519955244(RoundManager)

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.Object.Internal_InstantiateSingle (UnityEngine.Object data, UnityEngine.Vector3 pos, UnityEngine.Quaternion rot) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0000)
(wrapper dynamic-method) UnityEngine.Object.DMDUnityEngine.Object::Instantiate(UnityEngine.Object,UnityEngine.Vector3,UnityEngine.Quaternion)
UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate[T] (T original, UnityEngine.Vector3 position, UnityEngine.Quaternion rotation) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0001)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::SpawnEnemyGameObject(RoundManager,UnityEngine.Vector3,single,int,EnemyType)
RoundManager.SpawnEnemyOnServer (UnityEngine.Vector3 spawnPosition, System.Single yRot, System.Int32 enemyNumber) (at <066a7b7eb8c24d4facd1e255e669803f>:IL_0012)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::SpawnEnemyFromVent(RoundManager,EnemyVent)
RoundManager.SpawnInsideEnemiesFromVentsIfReady () (at <066a7b7eb8c24d4facd1e255e669803f>:IL_00BA)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::Update(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineRoundManager::Update?1879844064(RoundManager)
LethalThings.Patches.Debug.RoundManager_Update (On.RoundManager+orig_Update orig, RoundManager self) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/Patches/Debug.cs:121)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookRoundManager::Update?-519955244(RoundManager)

[cursive oriole]

I could really use some help finding out what mod's causing this bug if you have any idea what's going on

[visual prawn]

its probably lethal things

[royal lynx]

It's not?

He literally reproduced it without LT lol

LT just patches smthn there so it gets caught along in the error

[turbid thorn]

so im seeing that lethal things is not compatible with v60x

[barren jetty]

What are you seeing? The only problems I’ve come across are the weird item duplication thing when you pick up the utility belt, the rocket launcher loosing its ammo upon opening the save, and the flaregun getting stuck in the cabinet

But the last two have been there since before v62

[turbid thorn]

well those

also theres no official 60 update

excited to use this again! someday

[royal lynx]

Doesn't need recomping afaik

[manic wind]

wdym it works just fine

person above had that error both with and without the mod

[rugged yew]

Umm,rocket launcher and utility belt dont pop up in the store but when i type in terminal it gets offered..

What mod version should i run,game is v49

[still orbit]

I've had issues with the roombas before v60, idk if that's fixed

[royal lynx]

Do u remember what the issues were?

[restive zephyr]

isxus

[still orbit]

yup

this exact issue @royal lynx

[royal lynx]

Interesting, okay

[still orbit]

and no, It's not the interior, I was having that issue in the Facility

[royal lynx]

Ye, I'll look into the code for that while redoing stuffs

[visual prawn]

My b

[full magnet]

I was just thinking of something goofy with v62

Imagine this (mechanic spoiler):
||If every scrap on a moon for that day became Cookie Fumos or even Maxwells||

[pseudo karma]

i had it happen with the cookie fumo, it was fun throwing them at my friends xD

[neon whale]

Why are you on such an old version???

[long grotto]

[rugged yew]

Cuz it matches a modpack im using 😱😱😱😱

[rugged yew]

😱😱😱😱

[somber crown]

😱

[neon whale]

Just update everything.

You're gonna run into so many unfixable issues the longer you use old outdated versions.

[desert heart]

was the wheelbarrow and shopping cart removed?

those are from this mod right

?

[still orbit]

lgu

[tawny walrus]

they were part of LGU but now have their own mods along with one called Sci-Fi box

[desert heart]

thanks guys :D

[strong void]

What is the strings for the itemnames of the items in this mod?

like the internal name

[pallid lava]

Is it a mod feature or a bug that the rocket launcher is emptying all of its ammunition after loading the save? I mean, I am not shooting a single time, and it is empty after loading the save.

[hazy raptor]

it is a bug, tho we dont know when theyll fix it cuz its been a whilee since it happened
just make sure to use it right away after buyin if u think a run gonna take a few reopening lobby

[south cloak]

Is the boomba not working propoerly for anyone else? Sometimes I step on it and its explosion is delayed or doesnt explode at all

[spring gate]

yes

it seems to only work correctly when you're crouching

[royal lynx]

Which is super weird

[still orbit]

I disabled it until it gets fixed

[ornate hazel]

this mod is very incompatible with certain addons, as it deletes all the other items in the ship after reloading a save with this on

[merry ferry]

I don't understand how people have problems with the Roomba, any scale works on my end and the little things have killed me more than i would like to admit

[royal lynx]

i've noticed that before, likely a problem of a badly used LL feature, i think to fix it i just reloaded the lobby and it went back to normal, it didnt delete items it just cycled to the next item in the list of items available

[willow abyss]

(i've been doing daily creacher drawing challenges on the noita discord and today i made new arson lore)

[royal lynx]

goop

[hazy raptor]

gooper
man i miss noita, maybe i should play again i havent found the stuff in latest major update

[restive zephyr]

omg i love this

[hallow dew]

Utility Belt is not working with V64. I believe it's conflicting with the new Belt Bag.

[royal lynx]

Oof

[still orbit]

Still working on my modpack (v64B.3) :]

[hallow dew]

Oh, huh. Wonder what it could be then...

[runic oar]

Why can't I buy the rocket launcher?

[merry ferry]

it's age locked, or you can't afford it

/j

[runic oar]

Age locked?

what does that mean

[merry ferry]

it was a joke

[runic oar]

oh

[pseudo karma]

you need this mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SylviBlossom/TerminalConflictFix/

the rocket launcher conflicts with some other mod, when you type "rocket" the terminal thinks you are trying to filter moons by "rocky"

this mod will fix that

[fallow galleon]

Just checking, is this the mod that LOST comes from?

[royal lynx]

I think so yeah

Try disabling that if u can, I hear its buggy

[weary remnant]

What's Lost?

[royal lynx]

Buggy enemy that's alike the mask a bit

[manic wind]

buggy in 2 ways XD

[twin pumice]

Prob pirated

[turbid thorn]

you mean maggie?

[harsh bridge]

Are the darts meant to be gone? I haven't seen them in months

[pseudo karma]

for me they just kind of spawn in the middle of the ship and dont work properly.

[hollow osprey]

Hey I remember having issues with a modpack including LethalThings related log errors but I didn't debug it and the last update is 2 months ago...
is this mod still working fine on v64 ?

[royal lynx]

For the most part I hear stuff is fine

But ofc there's some buggy behaviour every now and again, apparently the mines don't always detect u now for some reason

[hazy raptor]

the boomba u mean ?

[royal lynx]

Ye

[merry ferry]

I've been thinking about this a while as people have had problems with boombas and mines but I haven't had any issues so I've been thinking about mods that are popular but I don't use, and my theory is Modelrepacement api is causing the issues.
I don't use custom models in my pack and I haven't had a single issue

Mines -> teleporter traps

[royal lynx]

Icic

[timid ether]

I found that running LethalThings with EverythingCanDie by TheFluff broke boombas for our group. Only after disabling all options in EverythingCanDie that modified boombas did they begin to actually function.

It may only be some options that broke them, but I didn't spend a ton of time trouble shooting the issue

[hazy raptor]

o really, which part broke again ?

[timid ether]

Boombas wouldn't explode when colliding with a player.

[hazy raptor]

ahh that one

[timid ether]

Sometimes they would explode, but not do any damage. They consistently kill other monsters, tho.

[merry ferry]

I don't run that mod either so could be that one as well

[long grotto]

Is LT busted?

[royal lynx]

not afaik

[pseudo karma]

no but a few small things dont work right, like the toy hammer floating 10 ft in the air when you place it down or darts phasing through everything if you throw them

[merry ferry]

You might have multiple mods fixing clipping, like GI, itemclipfix or other fix mods, try to check if you have multiple toggled on

[merry ferry]

Also darts haven't worked for some time

[pseudo karma]

im not really sure what mods fix item clipping besides mattys fixes, is there anything else in this list that does that?

[merry ferry]

It was the most recent update Matty pushed that seems to have broken some items floating

[supple burrow]

Boombas do no damage right now

[restive zephyr]

they're following one of the three commandments!

[timid ether]

Thou shalt not boomba?

[rigid jolt]

Hey @royal lynx we have got some issues which maybe comes from LethalThings.
When you buy stuff from this mod (sometimes also from others), the wrong item will be delivered.
I write it correct in the terminal, then the message comes where you have to confirm it - the item name is also written there correctly but you can actually see a difference in the price already if the item which comes instead has a different price.
Today we messed around a bit and finally were able to get utility belts with buying Remote Radars. All the items are somewhat swapped with each other. Vanilla items are not affected it seems.

Also when we started playing today we haven´t had that issue, it begun suddenly after several rounds and without changing anything. Then somebody told me he had that issue with the mod "mirrordecor", which I also had installed, so i dumped it, and after a restart it worked again. (same save). But again after some rounds of playing the same issue appeared. The same happened yesterday, also with a new savefile.
I talked to somebody with the same problem and that person also has LethalThings installed, there doesn´t seem to be any other mod we have in common and got installed recently.

Here is the modpack we are currently using:
019207ae-85e3-ad5b-932b-2463f652141d

I try to also drop my log in here.

Oh and btw. it´s not always the same item which comes instead, whenever I bought utility belts sometimes I got the hacking tool instead, sometimes the pinger and so on, it seems like it switches after a lobby restart, but not entirely sure tho.

[hallow dew]

So I'm still not sure why I can't use the Utility Belt, upon doing so I lose the ability to interact with anything until I restart the game.
This line is also constantly spammed in the console as well
[Info : Unity Log] grabInvalidated: False

[royal lynx]

Odd, can you post entire log

[hallow dew]

I would, if it didn't get spammed with that

[hallow dew]

Here's the most recent attempt. Played one moon to completion, and once I re-entered orbit, tried grabbing a Utility Belt, and the same thing happened. (Spammed the log with grabInvalidated: False again)

I would like to note: I have ReservedSlots and I have the Utility Belt assigned to a utility reserved slot, but this wasn't happening until recently.

[hallow dew]

@royal lynx I also just noticed that when I pick up the Utility Belt, despite it showing up in my inventory and gaining the extra slots, the item itself still stays in the world, meaning that if one manages to get on the ship, I basically have to condemn that area because accidentally picking it up basically botches the session and requires a restart

[royal lynx]

That... shouldn't be lethal things

[glad yew]

I've unfortunately seen people run into issues a lot with this mod off and on since the last update that got made for it v.v I've just been keeping it out of my pack as much as I miss it, I hope eventually you can finally take on updating the mod tbh

[cloud juniper]

Not seen that issue personally, and that was when me and alot of people was using the belt

[hallow dew]

I wish I knew what it was, then. But with such a massive modpack, it's just a guessing game now.
It's really only the belt that's causing issues. None of the other custom items, nor the entities, are misbehaving.

[cloud juniper]

well, the belt is Unique because it adds extra slots, so perhaps its a mod that messes with the inventory in some way?

[hallow dew]

Like I said originally, I have ReservedSlots, and also HotbarPlus, but I've had these two for ages and they've worked just fine

[cloud juniper]

Those are pretty stable mods

[hallow dew]

I just thought of something. Could a hotkey conflict cause any issues? For example, if HotbarPlus uses the same hotkey that the belt uses for different slots, would that cause the game to lock up because it wouldn't know what to do there?

[umbral pond]

Hello :3 if I was to restrict the creatures from this mod spawning during a Facility Meltdown, what would be the names of all the creatures I'd need to restrict? Me and some friends noticed that a bunch of weird creatures we've never interacted before spawn sometimes when we grab the apparatus and for us it's disruptive because we play with the creatures from this mod turned off since we generally prefer the vanilla roster of creatures & environmental threats.

We really like the decor and some of the gadgets from this mod and I've been missing the remote radar and hacking tool a lot in particular.

[glad flare]

Boomba, Maggie, Crystal Ray or you could just disable them

[umbral pond]

I did disable them. I think Facility Meltdown draws from the list of every available monster, because it also spawns Slenderman from FacelessStalker when the apparatus is pulled sometimes. You have to go into Facility Meltdown's config and build a blacklist of everything you don't want it to spawn when the apparatus is pulled, and if any mod you're playing with adds creatures you don't want to spawn during a meltdown, you need to add them to that list manually. That's why I need the technical/spawn names of the creatures. Are these the technical names or just nicknames?

[glad flare]

the technical names

[umbral pond]

Very cool, thank you 🫶

[lethal marten]

if there is one thing i miss from lethal things it's probably the flare gun

maybe the noita plushies too

[full magnet]

Flare Gun my beloved

Easily my favorite bit of gear out of all the ones provided

[young tree]

wait is thisod broken?

[oak sparrow]

Kind of?

For some people it seems to work, for others it doesn't

The only problem I've had with it is it's incompatibility with Piggy's Variety Mod's Revolver :c

[manic wind]

Piggys breaks many item animations aa of latest patch

[reef relic]

Guys but for now the other two entities in test are currently working? (Maggie and Crystal Ray)

[manic wind]

they are functional but really simple

[umbral pond]

what is thisod

[young tree]

I meant to say this mod 😭

[umbral pond]

ok 👍 sorry for pinging u over this

[young tree]

na you good, I don't mind pings anyways

[lethal marten]

what things are actually broken?

[pseudo karma]

off the top of my head, toy hammer just doesnt function properly at all, spawns 10 ft in the air and persists between trips to moons. darts fly through everything, glizzy falls through the floor alot of the time, the maggie enemy locks your view if youre freed while grabbed, and rocket launcher ammo is set to 0 if you reload a save

[small grove]

boombas also don't explode for some people unless they're crouched, right?

[cloud juniper]

Never seen that personally

[pseudo karma]

the boombas work fine for me but ive seen alot of people report that

[lethal marten]

mmmm

does setting everything's spawn weights to 0 work for fixing this? there's only one item i really want

[full magnet]

Setting an item/enemy's spawn weight to 0 effectively gives them 0 chance to spawn so theoretically should work

[pseudo karma]

it should work yeah, but if you have a mod that spawns enemies through unconventional means, like lethal presents or facility meltdown, it can spawn enemies from lethal things even if you set them to 0. you just have to blacklist them from those mods configs

[old ridge]

i think i saw a crystal ray during an infestation once with the weights set to 0 in config, those probably screw with that too

[cloud juniper]

i hate vanilla updates most of the time honestly
Gonna always need more mods to patch out or fix whatever nonsense comes out with the next one

[royal lynx]

afaik after like 8 hoarding bugs spawn, all enemys in the spawn pool get an equal chance to spawn

so yeah, vanilla does mess with it in that case

[pseudo karma]

that really sucks

just as i figured out why i was still seeing lost/maggie spawn in my game

[old ridge]

i tried fixing it myself by grabbing lq and just. handing it control over interior spawns everywhere since i assume this mod puts them on the moon regardless of their weight being 0

Which ordinarily wouldn't be an issue but ig even if the weight is 0 that's enough for it to count as being in the spawn pool?

[old ridge]

Since lethal quantities seems to see weight 0 and knows not to put them on there

Hacky way to fix it but ye

[lethal marten]

me when the game i like gets updated (it broke one specific mod that hasn't been updated in like months)

[cloud juniper]

🔥

[dire valley]

has this mod been abandoned? Hasn't been uipdated in a hot minute

[manic wind]

xu has the files but doesnt wanna mess with it until it completely breaks

[restive zephyr]

i haven't seen an update in a damn hot minute!

[manic wind]

since they got a bunch of other projects

[dire valley]

oh, xuxaolin's worked on this mod?

man he works on a lot of mods lol

[manic wind]

as far as im aware they "took over" from the og dev, tho hasnt been workin on it

[dire valley]

oh I see. Does he have access to the github and all that or is it a fork

or going to be if it hasn't happened yet

[manic wind]

the plan was to recoded it EVENTUALLY, tho rn its only under maintenance if it majorly breaks

if I remember correctly

[quaint basin]

Leafull thangs

[jagged osprey]

excuse me guys, is there any reason about this spam in the console? Is this normal ?
https://streamable.com/w5ymmj

[reef ice]

I've been curious about that as well

[royal lynx]

ill check

okay so the reason it happens is because the fish friend spawned

that guy's not supposed to spawn

[long grotto]

Fish-

[pseudo karma]

ive noticed both that and the lost spawning during infestations

[reef ice]

fish friend????

[long grotto]

But yeah wtf is Fish Friend

and is there any way to get rid of it?

cuz earlier today after my "fish-" message

I got that console spam too

[reef ice]

I'm more interested in finding the fish

[long grotto]

im not sure if you can

can you?

[reef ice]

I have no clue

but I will try my hardest

[long grotto]

You got this

[reef ice]

thank you

[devout fox]

Just to clarify, the Flare Gun works as a weapon that can set enemies on fire, right?

[hazy raptor]

i dont remember it doing any of that
its only to aggro most enemy to it

to the flare

[devout fox]

Either way, I really hope it works on Forest Guardians.

[lethal marten]

it doesn't

[devout fox]

https://tenor.com/view/bladerunner-gif-21629246

[full magnet]

It'd make them a literal joke if you can just spend the lil bit of dough to get it, shoot at the giant, and boom they're toast

[devout fox]

Not completely toast, just a little crispy.

I was thinking they would make a good subgrade to the Shotgun if you can't get yourself a shotgun

[hazy raptor]

might as well get the rocket launcher

or get yourself some mod that can change the egg so it exploded 100% when u throw it

[buoyant lark]

Hello, i was wondering what are the chances of the Toy Hammer to kill when you hit someone ?

[long grotto]

Hey uh

is this mod still being "worked on"?

just curious

[manic wind]

by the og dev no

it was handed to Xu but she is on break but would most likely do hotfixes if the mod broke itself

she had mentioned doing a rebuild on LLL but that got held up by other projects

[long grotto]

Oh

Huh

least it still works

sorta

Buying the utility belt gives you something else

[devout fox]

Oh right... there's a weird thing about these items that forces all of them to shift incorrectly on the list of store items.

I noticed how they got priced incorrectly

[long grotto]

What do we have to but in order to get the utility belt?

[devout fox]

Because the prices belonged to something one entry up the list

[long grotto]

One up the list

Hmm...

whats one up from the utility belt

[devout fox]

Buy whatever is above and below the belt

I dunno because I have a couple other mods that ADD things to the store

[long grotto]

Oh

[devout fox]

And I disabled the Rocket Launcher

So maybe all will be well when you disable rocket launcher

[quaint basin]

When is safe things releasing

[hearty elbow]

Disabling items in the config doesn't actually disable them. Unsure if this is a mod Incompatibility or a glitch with Lethal Things 🥺

[manic wind]

mod is currently not being worked on

[hearty elbow]

Sadness

[restive zephyr]

https://www.makeship.com/products/staring-nikki-plushie

[minor nebula]

Antlers moment.

[restive zephyr]

Antlers Moment

[royal lynx]

apologies for the delay of months lol, this is officially on track

[glad yew]

🙂

[royal lynx]

people can keep track of progress here: https://github.com/XuuXiaolan/LethalThingsRemastered

after i get everything ported ill be taking a look at bugs reports on the normal github etc

[pseudo karma]

[humble tiger]

Wooooo let's goooo

[open marsh]

This is amazing!

[sharp fossil]

the things are officially gonna be lethal

[devout fox]

Will the Rocket Launcher finally kill Old Birds?

[royal lynx]

Probably, dunno if that's a bug, will see

[devout fox]

I mean the Rocket Launcher doesn't work at all, and it kinda breaks the store

[humble tiger]

lol???

[devout fox]

An explosive rocket is the only thing I can think of to kill a big metal monstrosity.

[barren thorn]

Did LethalThings stop working?

Is that why it’s getting remastered

I haven’t used it for a while

Or is it just that it’s been discontinued

It hasn’t been updated in 5 months

[devout fox]

The creator has disappeared for a while...

There hasn't been any notable updates for a long time

[barren thorn]

Damn

[primal dagger]

petition for rocket launchers to be dropped from dead old birds :)

or at least the ammo

[sharp fossil]

the original creator didnt want to update it anymore so its passed onto xu

the mod still works but has issues

which will prob be fixed

[barren thorn]

If I had a penny for every time a mod creator passed a mod down to Xu, I’d have 2 pennies. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice

To be fair Xu is a competent mod creator. I love redwood titan and driftwood giant <3

[restive zephyr]

eba.....

[royal lynx]

No but performance issues were noticed plus a lotta various bugs

[open vine]

did Lethal Things update? cuz this qt was not wearing anything before

[restive zephyr]

probably linked to time and was there in previous years

[royal lynx]

Yeah it's linked to time

[olive depot]

Lethal things was the first mod I downloaded

Glad it’s in good hands

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-lethal-company-cockroach-hoarding-bug-hoarding-gif-7231410573609158450

[empty crown]

The plan between us kinda died, eh?

[devout fox]

The eternally cosmic Tulip Snake graces us with its presence.

[royal lynx]

Ye

[empty crown]

Sorry about that btw.
I kept pushing you at the start and ended up doing nothing too

[royal lynx]

nah its okay, i was putting it off too and was mostly my fault for htat lol

[royal lynx]

@halcyon ocean maxwell pulling a zeekerss

[old ridge]

what's this about

forgot to declare the variable previously?

or

[royal lynx]

nah, doing FindObjectOfType is just expensive and unnecessary

but i dont think anyone should care really since its only done on Start but i got rid of it anyway

[old ridge]

ah okay

[halcyon ocean]

lol at least that's in start

[royal lynx]

TODO code:

• Arson+Dirty Arson ArsonPlushie
• Cookie Fumo CookieFumo
• Maxwell ThrowableNoiseMaker
• Glizzy ThrowableNoiseMaker
• Revolver AnimatedItem
• Gremlin Energy
• ToyHammer
• Rocket Launcher
• Flaregun
• RemoteRadar
• Pouchy Belt (unsure about this one)
• Hacking Tool
• Pinger
• Delivery Rover (unsure about this one)
• Boomba
• Maggie
• Crystal Ray
• Teleporter Trap

@wintry shale pin dis

[old ridge]

wait are you planning on properly implementing the maggie and crystal ray?

[royal lynx]

ye

[old ridge]

exciting

I wonder how they're gonna be when they're fully functional

[royal lynx]

i think they were working on a robot enemy too lol

would fuck with your radar it seems

seems like gremlin energy was intended to damage you and turn you into a blob lol

i wonder if people would be interested in me bringing that behaviour back

[humble tiger]

oh yeah ToyHammer the greatest ! so buggy but so fun !

[royal lynx]

it uses an old version of hte shovel script, which is probably why lol

[humble tiger]

it's really cool that you taking back the development of the mod, i really like lethal things so its great it will finally have a new version

[old ridge]

What was the toy hammer meant to do anyway

[royal lynx]

weapon with a 1% chance to one hit a player

and maybe enemy

[old ridge]

sounds funny

[royal lynx]

To be clear, the scrapped/unfinished behaviour was a blob spawning once you got killed by Gremlin Energy

[royal lynx]

@wintry shale pin this too thanks

[humble tiger]

Im pretty sure the shovel code for this is working fine. The problem is on the spawn part where sometimes it cant be grabbed or floats in the air

[royal lynx]

oh yeah it probably isnt te shovel code, but its not something i can rule out completely just incase, but i am changing pretty much everything backend wise so shouldnt happen anymore

[humble tiger]

completely expected, tbh i did the same with chillax

[barren thorn]

Would probably work best as a config option since I doubt it’s for everyone. I’m all for more scrap having actual world interactions like comedy and tragedy masks

It’s lore friendly too

[humble tiger]

I think a good idea for this mod would be to have a config to turn shop items into scraps to find inside facility, so much more fun

[royal lynx]

Already done code wise

[royal lynx]

Hmm yeah I can probably make it a config

[barren thorn]

If it’s not something you want to do that’s understandable. I just mainly think if it’s added at all it wouldn’t be a feature everyone wants

Since it wasn’t like that in the original mod

[humble tiger]

Nice

[devout fox]

I never really understood what Maggie and Crystal Ray were. Is Maggie supposed to be an enemy while Crystal Ray is a trap?

[old ridge]

Maggie, to my knowledge, was an enemy

basically just the masked but it just straightup kills you iirc?

idk

Crystal ray was cute and sounded nice but it couldn't move at all

Was another entity

Idk what that was meant to do

[devout fox]

I mean... The Masked straight up kills you too.

[old ridge]

Yeah but masked also turn you into another masked

I don't think the maggie (or "lost" i think is its name on the scan node?) does that

[devout fox]

I'd imagine the Crystal Ray is a trap that shoots a ray at a wall like some kinda kill gate.

Kinda like the Tesla Gate from SCP

[old ridge]

Can't imagine, last I saw it it was just this cute purple glowing manta ray thingy

[devout fox]

Oooooh, MANTA Ray

I get it now

[old ridge]

idk if i have a picture

[devout fox]

Hmm... so what's an aquatic animal doing out of water?

[old ridge]

I don't think it or anything from surfaced (which also adds a lot of aquatic animals/things) seem to care

[devout fox]

Will the Manta Ray shoot rays out of its tail?

[old ridge]

I had to find like. some old footage from when I was testing things and it accidentally spawned during a hoarder infestation when those were relatively new

But that's the creature

The tail doesn't look like the type of thing to fire rays/lasers

[barren thorn]

Not all sea creatures can swim, check your privilege.

[devout fox]

Ah I see. Looks as adorable as the Spore Lizard

[devout fox]

I didn't say anything about it swimming, just about being in water, CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE!!!

[barren thorn]

You’re failing to consider the fact some sea creatures might be allergic to water. This is a suppression of their rights!

[devout fox]

If they're allergic to water, they won't even survive to be called SEA creatures. That's just NATURAL SELECTION!

If you are a believer in evolution, you MUST acknowledge NATURAL SELECTION

You improperly label them!

[barren thorn]

Are you suggesting sea creatures that are allergic to water must die?

This is borderline EXTREMISM.

[devout fox]

According to all known laws of allergic reaction, they must, yes.

Must as in it's a natural occurence and cannot be stopped.

Your pansy-ism cannot fight the might of NATURE!

[barren thorn]

I am flabbergasted. I’m friends with many water allergic sea creatures

You’re out here wishing death upon all of them

[devout fox]

Then they are not sea creatures. They are just... CREATURES!

If you do not live in the Sea, you cannot claim the name

[barren thorn]

You’re next going to be saying since my ancestors who were born in Germany only account for 0.7% of my bloodline I’m not German.

This is an infringement on our rights as human beings and sea creatures

[devout fox]

You can only call yourself where you were born. If you're born in America, guess what? YOU'RE AMERICAN! Sure, you can say that your ancestry forms the basis of your genetic makeup, but if you believe in Evolution the way other people do, I can legally call you a monkey.

[barren thorn]

Did you just assume where I was born?

[devout fox]

I said "if"

Not necessarily a concrete fact

Just a hypothetical.

Checkmate.

[barren thorn]

I don’t mean that

I mean on the evolutionary scale

[devout fox]

I mean it's a fact that you're human, otherwise you wouldn't have the chromosomes necessary to figure out the English language and the social structure of a Discord server, let alone the entire platform and PC it's installed on.

[barren thorn]

I’m a person who gets into arguments about the rights of sea creatures on land calling me a monkey is an insult to all primates

[devout fox]

If you're 0.07% German and you wanna be called a German, then if you're human and you believe in Evolution the way other people do, then you could also call yourself an Ape.

[barren thorn]

I do not believe in evolution, but if I did you could argue I’m a microbe

[devout fox]

But sure, Sea creatures that can't physically LIVE in water should be called "sea creatures" just because of some genetic ancestry.

You cannot be a Sea creature unless you are physically born and designed to be in the Sea

Or at least born on a beach to walk into the sea like those dang turtles

[barren thorn]

Bruce is designed to be in the sea

He has fins and everything

You know he’s above that

Don’t discriminate him because he’s a flying fish from an unofficial mod in some random steam game

[devout fox]

But if you're somehow born in the Sea and at the same time allergic to the sea, how do you expect to survive after just being born in the water? You'd die on contact.

[barren thorn]

You might not be deathly allergic

[devout fox]

You have failed the genetic pool of your ancestors

You will suffer your entire life, whether in the water or not

[barren thorn]

I think I get the moral of this conversation

We remove lactose intolerant people from the gene pool

[devout fox]

If you must breathe water and be allergic to it at the same time, your entire existence has failed your family by pure chance.

Natural Selection will come for you soon.

And it will come very quickly

Survival of the fittest, and you are DEFINITELY not the fittest.

[barren thorn]

If the end of the world comes and the only food available is cheese crackers I’ll make sure to tell my allergic friends it’s just natural selection while they’re dying in front of me

[devout fox]

At the end of the world, yes we must select only the fittest humans to survive our human species.

Selecting any less and we would be doing the future of the world a dis-service by selfishly trying to preserve their life by some made-up virtue to make ourselves look better.

It would be a mercy to let them die quickly instead of forcing them to survive in suffering for much longer.

[barren thorn]

So what if the end of the world comes we shoot all allergic people point blank?

[devout fox]

Well that's a pretty quick way to do it.

[barren thorn]

Rather than try to preserve as many human lives as possible in the chance some people don’t make it

Besides the obvious ethical issues what’s the limit where the allergy is so insignificant we let them live

[devout fox]

People are bound to not make it anyways, might as well create a small controlled group of fit humans to be the genetic future like nature always intended.

[barren thorn]

It’s somewhat irrational if they can’t eat certain foods, or they’re allergic to bees

[devout fox]

Also saying "end of the world" is supposed to imply that we're all supposed to die anyways.

[barren thorn]

And the thing is although allergies are genetic some allergies can just come on naturally

[barren thorn]

End of the world does not necessarily mean the end of humanity

Could be renaming the world to something else, it’d be the biggest confusion for news articles

[devout fox]

Then what becomes of the world after this "end of the world"?

It wouldn't really be the "end of the world" unless the entire planet were to blow up or otherwise be destroyed.

[barren thorn]

Exactly the same but renamed

[devout fox]

It's still the world though, so it didn't really end. We would just reach some kind of extinction event like Higgs told us in Death Stranding.

Dang, maybe Higgs was right...

[barren thorn]

Dunno

If we stop calling it the world and call it the big rock it’s still technically the end of “the world”

[devout fox]

https://tenor.com/view/higgs-death-stranding-kojima-hideo-kojima-gif-27591197

[devout fox]

The big rock is still a "world" by classification if things are living on it.

[barren thorn]

You could argue the end of the world is referring to its name

[devout fox]

It would require all living things to die first before being classified as the end of the world.

[barren thorn]

Like the end of Vincent could just be you changing your username

[barren thorn]

The end of all life on earth and the end of the world is different

I’d argue that’s the end of the world as we know it

[devout fox]

That's an arbitrary argument, considering we already call Earth by numerous names and definitions. A "world" is a classification and cannot be changed unless you severely alter its form to re-classify it to be anything less.

[barren thorn]

Or the end of all life on earth

[barren thorn]

A world can also be a title

It could be stripped of that title, causing it to be the end of that title

[devout fox]

Title and classification might as well be the same here, and you strip it of its title if it fails to serve its function, which is to support life.

[barren thorn]

Before humans were around it didn’t have that title

[devout fox]

If life fails to be supported, it is no longer a world and all humans are dead.

[barren thorn]

The English language didn’t exist

Therefore it didn’t have the title “the world”

[devout fox]

So yes, it is also the end of humanity, one and the same.

[devout fox]

In any language, you can say it's the same if it still has the same meaning.

[barren thorn]

Technically that means the end of the world is whenever that word in the English language is used for the last time

[devout fox]

All languages are connected as long as you translate it.

[barren thorn]

Not if no humans exist

[devout fox]

Oh, so now our planet is being held together by a mere language?

[barren thorn]

Before humans existed it didn’t have the name

[barren thorn]

Title is different to the planets stability

But with the human ego, probably yeah

[devout fox]

You're arguing stupid semantics at this point and the joke is getting old. World, Welt, Gaia, Planet, whatever term you use, it will mean the same thing.

The end of the world, in ANY language, should imply that our planet can no longer sustain life, and therefore all organisms currently living on its surface or inside it shall die and cease to exist.

[barren thorn]

That is a meaning of it, but sentences can have multiple meaninngs

[devout fox]

You can translate that to any language and its concrete meaning should stay the same, regardless of your bogus semantics.

[barren thorn]

It can also technically mean it’s the end of that title

[devout fox]

Technicalities will fall apart in practice. Don't rely on technicalities. Only rely on what is practical, like breathing underwater while you are having constant allergic reactions in your body.

That's not very practical

That's SUFFERING

And that's a failure to design

[barren thorn]

Technicalities are not practical but they exist

[devout fox]

Hardly. They only "exist" as concepts.

But those concepts don't always help us

[barren thorn]

By that logic many discoveries wouldn’t have been worth discovering

[devout fox]

I only want to focus on what will help us in practice, and if you can't so much as touch sea-water without getting an allergic reaction, you don't deserve to be called a sea creature.

You have been demoted to "Creature"

Good day.

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-gene-wilder-willy-wonka-you-get-nothing-nothing-gif-5432076

[barren thorn]

As a human being who isn’t even a sea creature I can’t argue with that

It’s nearly midnight and I want my sleep

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241786100201160784/1320105654685532171/togif.gif

[devout fox]

Good, joke's over.

[hazy raptor]

all my friend who hold the drink all died from the temptation so i think thats gonna be nice to have

[opal cedar]

This is getting redone?

[royal lynx]

Si

I've started rewriting it a couple days ago, progress is in pins

[opal cedar]

awesome

[restive zephyr]

if what

[wintry shale]

Also before I forget pawsy has a pin feature now :3

[royal lynx]

oh nice

@wintry shale can you pin the results

[wintry shale]

I got you

I can’t

[royal lynx]

nuhuh u a server staff, u deffo can

i think

[wintry shale]

Not those discord messages

[royal lynx]

oh

damn

[royal lynx]

oh well i already wrote the scrapped behaviour for it a few days ago anyway

[wintry shale]

[wintry shale]

There you go

Just don’t look what got pinned and we should be good to go

[royal lynx]

lol

[granite harbor]

is anyone else having the issue where boombas don't activate when you step on it or is it just me

[open marsh]

I know other people have talked about something similar before

[devout fox]

I'm pretty sure my Boombas still kill things

[pseudo karma]

it seems to be an on and off thing, sometimes theyll work fine, sometimes stepping on them doesnt activate them

[granite harbor]

yeah, was playing around with it with my friends until it eventually decided to blow up, killing half the team lol

[hallow dew]

If you shoot the boombas with firearms, at least those from Piggy's Variety, they detonate as if stepped on.
Do with that what you will.

[devout fox]

Firearms? Variety?

Are you saying I don't need to murder an eyeball piloting a wooden mech to maintain my Second Amendment?

[hallow dew]

No, with this mod, you can either rifles and revolvers lying around, or even buy 'em from the Company. (Though acquiring ammo for said firearms... that's another story, Company don't sell that)
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Piggy/Piggys_Variety_Mod/

(Will also make some secure doors into insta-killing zapping gates that allow passage at all times, but only if you time it right)

[uneven wing]

@royal lynx no idea if you know this or not but two things I've noted that I'm pretty certain are linked to LethalThings:

1. There is a random artifact on the screen when in orbit (with the mod that allows you to see the moon/explore the ship while in orbit); I freecammed down with Imperium and the random artifact is a ToyHammer that's randomly floating there. Strange.
2. Flare Gun / Rocket Launcher ammo isn't maintained on saves that are revisited on separate playthroughs. Same save, we had ammo loaded for both guns, both guns were out on reload.
   No idea if either of these are reproducible or consistent, just mentioning my experience. Happy to test if needed at a later stage.

[hallow dew]

The second one I can vouch for, paricularly with the rocket launchers. To be fair, I think it's a bit dumb that rocket launchers have limited ammo before they become literally useless.

[humble tiger]

ToyHammer spawn was very broken thats not surprising

[uneven wing]

Assuming rocket launchers work as I imagine they should (powerful blast that almost instakills most things + ranged) I don't think that's too outrageous
But I saw earlier someone saying they don't always work as intended lol

[hallow dew]

I wouldn't know, I haven't used 'em

In a good long while at least

[uneven wing]

I've only been shot numerous times at the company building and I always end up charred and dead, so seems to work as intended for us 😂

Swear my group never uses them for actual monster hunting, just "heh kill my fellow players on Gordion" meme

[humble tiger]

ye this is why having these tools spawn as scraps would be better (xu said a config will be added to have that) so its perfect

[devout fox]

Hell Yeah

[slow hedge]

Hey is anyone else having trouble where they cant buy rocket launchers from the terminal

[pseudo karma]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SylviBlossom/TerminalConflictFix/

this will fix it for now

[slow hedge]

Oh sweet! Thank you!

[still orbit]

Hmm? Update?
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Evaisa/LethalThings/

[uneven wing]

😮 updated ammo!? Sign me up 😄

[barren thorn]

What exactly is broken with LethalThings in its current version?

[humble tiger]

À lot of things

[still orbit]

at least it's being fixed slowly :]

[humble tiger]

true

[desert heart]

does the boomba work now :(

[hazy raptor]

nop

[desert heart]

ugh

[manic wind]

wdym yeah he does

most the stuff in the mod isnt broken its just very poorly optimized

due to old untouched code

[hazy raptor]

no like they dont explode in my case unless i tbag them or something

they act more like a pet for me lol

[manic wind]

I havent had that

[hazy raptor]

i ended up using immortal slime instead for the job

[manic wind]

maybe me having fair ai somehow patches it?

it seemed to work on my end

[hazy raptor]

maybe ill try it sometimes later, who knows

i stop using it cuz my group too slow and everything died before my friend can see them lol

[uneven wing]

I've seen comments about it not working but I swear they work for me too in my pack, I'm running FairAI too so maybe it does affect it!

[devout fox]

As a FairAI user, I can testify to this. I've seen dead bugs and a dead Butler upon arrival.

[dusty heart]

oh god the butler bees...

[devout fox]

At least I got a cool knife

[stoic ingot]

Lethal things is the mod with the f1 spawn command right?

or am I wrong about that?

there was a mod where if you put in a series of inputs (up up down down.. etc) the host would get access to a command box

sorry if this wasn't lethal things

[uneven wing]

I don't think that's LethalThings. It adds some hazards, scrap, enemies and decorations, not really in the realm of cheat/dev tools afaik

[pseudo karma]

i think i remember something like that from this mod, dont remember how to access it

[stoic ingot]

I believe it is lethal things, looked up the code and it was evaisa who talked about using it

its the konami code

[pseudo karma]

ill probably try and see if i can access it later

[uneven wing]

Well, there you go
Been using LethalThings for ages and I've never known. TIL.

[pseudo karma]

huh, it worked

https://files.catbox.moe/4dmbgg.png

i completely forgot about it lol, heard about it but never tried using it

just dont try to do it when you first enter a lobby before landing, youll get spammed with errors and get softlocked lol

[uneven wing]

What was the sequence?

[pseudo karma]

the konami code, up up down down left right left right b a enter

then press f1

[willow abyss]

sorry reading back on this chat because i was just checking in, this was meant to be the AI for the delivery rover if you hadn't figured that out

it was supposed to be able to be tracked on the radar like a player

the trello has that info iirc

[royal lynx]

Ohhhh the rover was the robot

[versed gulch]

Anyone having issues purchasing items from this mod? terminal isnt recognizing the rocket launcher

[pseudo karma]

#1178456016254414878 message

try this

[versed gulch]

Oh i could have scrolled up a single screen, sorry!

[pseudo karma]

you're fine xD

[steady topaz]

bilka

[fading dove]

erm, a teleporter trap spawned even though i have them turned off

[royal lynx]

when'd you turn em off

[fading dove]

a while ago

I think there was an update since

[fading dove]

Unable to buy a rocket launcher also

[devout fox]

Welcome to the club

[fading dove]

😭

[calm tartan]

Idk if this is known but, store items disabled in the config only disable for the host, not clients, even if they share the same config values

[royal lynx]

The disabling of stuff was wonky in general tbh

Especially for store items

Never actually fully worked

[calm tartan]

Iv been desperately trying to find an external mod that lets me alter items in the store globally for all the mods I use, in hopes that would fix this, but

There’s ✨none✨

At least none in aware of

[manic wind]

How buggy is the latest release

[royal lynx]

It's fairly okay, there's a couple issues here and there with shop items when u try to disable stuff and some lag issue that got fixed by a mod zaggy made, but its okay

If you're gonna be installing it, you should download the mod zaggy maxe

[manic wind]

yeye had it just making sure beforehand, excited for the update melanie 😛

[royal lynx]

im better

[opal cedar]

what is it called

is it DisableLethalThingsDartScanNode?

[royal lynx]

ye

[open marsh]

I believe that is the one

[manic wind]

what does [05:02:54.0944010] [Info :LethalThings] Spooked by scary!! mean

[royal lynx]

thats the manta ray getting scared by an enemy iirc

[broken thicket]

I'm getting this [03:55:24.7420510] [Error : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
Stack trace:
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMDTerminal::SetItemSales(Terminal)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMDStartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay(StartOfRound,int)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineStartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay?101516164(StartOfRound,int)
LethalThings.MonoBehaviours.FatalitiesSign.StartOfRound_PassTimeToNextDay (On.StartOfRound+orig_PassTimeToNextDay orig, StartOfRound self, System.Int32 connectedPlayersOnServer) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/MonoBehaviours/FatalitiesSign.cs:34)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookStartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay?1148873088(StartOfRound,int)
StartOfRound+<EndOfGame>d__279.MoveNext () (at <bdf6a080e98a49fd84b92b24894f768c>:IL_03C1)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

[broken thicket]

@willow abyss

I got it again
[20:59:14.7929899] [Error : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
Stack trace:
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMDTerminal::SetItemSales(Terminal)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMDStartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay(StartOfRound,int)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineStartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay?372095160(StartOfRound,int)
LethalThings.MonoBehaviours.FatalitiesSign.StartOfRound_PassTimeToNextDay (On.StartOfRound+orig_PassTimeToNextDay orig, StartOfRound self, System.Int32 connectedPlayersOnServer) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/MonoBehaviours/FatalitiesSign.cs:34)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookStartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay?-1038436008(StartOfRound,int)
StartOfRound+<EndOfGame>d__279.MoveNext () (at <bdf6a080e98a49fd84b92b24894f768c>:IL_03C1)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

even with disabling all decor

[manic wind]

that person no longer works on this mod

[broken thicket]

who does

[manic wind]

Technically Xu but shes caught up in other projects usually

[broken thicket]

@royal lynx

[royal lynx]

until i look into it you can just disable the fatalities

sign

[broken thicket]

I did already, thats the weird part

it makes me stuck in orbit when I'm leaving the moon

[royal lynx]

im not sure then, other people havent been getting that error so i'd have to guess it's probably something else

[broken thicket]

I think it might have to do with discounts

[broken thicket]

It could be when it appears in the store it conflicts with this? https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/hrdbass066/DiscountSync/

[royal lynx]

no idea

[broken thicket]

just tested

its when I take a item into orbit

[royal lynx]

well it's definitely a weird mod conflict cuz there are people with lethal things that arent breaking by getting scrap

[broken thicket]

heres my code if you want to test btw 01950b74-abbb-f998-198e-2c3d22bc75e8

[opal cedar]

something in ur modpack causing conflicts

it doesn't happen for me and i have the fatalities sign enabled

[devout fox]

Heck, I even have the sign up on my ship, but for a while now, it's worked just fine. I think there's something going around that every modded player is using that makes them experience critical failure, but we might not know what it is yet.

[opal cedar]

are you having the same problem they are

[devout fox]

Where the lobby totally freezes up and I can't leave? I only experienced that once but I haven't had that happen to me again yet.

[opal cedar]

if it happened in multiplayer, that's a known issue with LLL. the issues Jori is having seems like it stems from a bunch of mods that are either old, unsupported, or don't play well with other mods (from my look anyway)

[broken thicket]

Its not always, for some reason its random

I think it might have to do with discounts

[broken thicket]

I dont have old or unsupported mods?

I mean some are old but they are not borken

[opal cedar]

you literally do

[broken thicket]

like?

[opal cedar]

wait hold on

i think i mixed up profiles for a sec

there was someone else using a bunch of outdated stuff i had to help recently

[broken thicket]

All good, I still have a big pack so it could be a conflict.

My only thought is that since its a store item it could be conflicting with https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/hrdbass066/DiscountSync/

[opal cedar]

probably is that

buttery mentioned this

try turning discountsync off and trying again

[broken thicket]

I cant replicate it though

[halcyon ocean]

if you read the stack trace, you can see that this exception is not occurring in Lethal Things code

did you try disabling lethal things or did you assume that it was their issue because of the MonoMod detour showing up there?

also worth noting that Lethal Things hasn't been updated in over a month (with that update being a very minor unrelated change), and I would assume that this issue is much more recent than that

it'd be good for you to do your due diligence before pinging mod authors

[broken thicket]

I have not been able to replicate and I already stated before that it most likely a mod conflict.

[halcyon ocean]

it's almost definitely not a mod conflict though

the code that was running when the exception occurred was vanilla code, so you must have added/updated some content that was created incorrectly

that has zero to do with evaisa or xu

[broken thicket]

It might have been an issue with atlas. Shortly after this I was trying multiplayer and the game would not load, it would just stay on waiting for a crew. We figured out that it was a mod conflict between atlas and code rebirth.

I’m thinking that the error here was just a side effect of the other issue.

[junior falcon]

Hey I'm curious and I would like to try lethalthings but I remember there being a bug where if I disabled an item from the shop, the shop would dsync and if I bought something it would buy something else. Can anyone tell me if that's the only problem with the mod atm?

[royal lynx]

pretty much, download the mod by zaggy that helps with performance with this mod

[junior falcon]

Okay! I'll try it out

Does anyone know if it's possible to make it to where the teleporter traps don't effect monsters?

[pseudo karma]

that and the unused enemies can spawn during infestations, i think those are the biggest things

[junior falcon]

wdym, unused enemies? Even if I have them disabled?

[old ridge]

The maggie and crystal ray, they have weights of 0 by default

and yes, even with 0 weights

[junior falcon]

does anyone know of a workaround to prevent that from happening?

[pseudo karma]

what i did personally is install rngconfigurator and disabled infestations

[junior falcon]

is there a way to completely disable an enemy through a configuration mod?

I dont' like infestations but it's part of vanilla so I keep it. Eventually I'll add more events from some mods I found

[pseudo karma]

lethal quantities can, or something else like that maybe, but using that has caused issues for me

[junior falcon]

LQ has caused issues for you? I'm kinda worried since that's what I've always used 😭

[pseudo karma]

well main thing was it seemed to be incompatible with mirage, it didnt let mimics spawn when i had it installed

mightve just been a me problem i could never figure out

[junior falcon]

doesn't mirage automatically make the most amount of mimics spawnable 2? I thought vanilla was 10 so you had to change that to see them

idk, I haven't got around to mirage yet

[pseudo karma]

yee it does, but lq wouldnt let them spawn at all for some reason

[barren thorn]

ButteRyBalance reworks infestations

[pseudo karma]

does it stop them from spawning? i might just do that honestly

im not against infestations but those two enemies spawning isnt ideal

[lethal marten]

is this shop desync still an issue?

[barren thorn]

Yes

Probably should’ve clarified more LOL

Monsters no longer all have the same weight

If you check the wiki page for ButteRyBalance you can see the rest of the changes for infestations

Makes them more fun IMO

[junior falcon]

Thank you!

Also upon checking through the log thing, it seems vanilla infestations just put either the bugs or nutcrackers at 100 and the rest of the monsters at 1. But again, thank you! My modpack is coming along just fine!

[junior falcon]

Hey, it seems for some reason the dartboard and small rug wont' appear. I mean I know they are supposed to be in the ship upgrades section, but they aren't. Even with that mod alone they still don't appear. I can buy them though

[hollow osprey]

hey, for the longest time i've had a weird constant stutter on my modpack that is very noticeable when using a frametime graph, i sat down today to try to find it and turns out it somehow comes from this mod

this weird micro stutter goes away whenever you dont have control over your movement, for example, when on the terminal

[ember umbra]

install this mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zaggy1024/DisableLethalThingsDartScanNodes/

[hollow osprey]

many thanks!

[humble tiger]

this mod is more broken than emergency dice, and thats both funny and terrible at the same time
i would suggest waiting for the rework by Xu

[royal lynx]

It'll take a while since rodrigo is making me work quite a lot though lol

[humble tiger]

rodrigo bad

[stuck kraken]

Should I enable Maggie "Lost" and the Crystal Rays?

Or are they in WIP Hell?

[royal lynx]

WIP hell

[stuck kraken]

Do Crystal Rays move even? Cause I remember one in Wesley's toy shop spawning and it just stood there

[old ridge]

I don't think they do no

Pre sure the only thing they really can do is spam "Spooked by scary!" in logs, if that's even them doing that

[pseudo karma]

also the crystal it drops cant be seen by clients and can completely break your inventory lol

[royal lynx]

They can move, if they didn't at the time play your interior

[stuck kraken]

doesnt matter, had to remove lethalthings and immersivecompany because they were causing errors when it came to buying cruisers

is there a way to fix this

to be more descriptive, when i try to buy a cruiser i type cruiser and press enter, and nothing happens

when i restarted and uninstalled lethalthings, it worked

[gilded basin]

Is there anything like a standalone teleporter trap mod? It’s what I miss most about lethal things, but I’m hesitant to add lethal things bc of the bugs

[grizzled ether]

Wait, have I been handicapping my game performance by having this installed?

[gilded basin]

The dart board definitely causes lag without this fix: #1178456016254414878 message

[grizzled ether]

fuuuuucckkk

I've had that damn dart board glued to my wall just in case some random combination of mods solves the mystery of the missing darts

[gilded basin]

A friend said the custom scrap also made him laggy a while back, but idk if that was the actual cause of lag for him or not

[devout fox]

Any progress on the transfer of development and ownership of this mod?

[devout fox]

I am still using it and I just had to find ways around it, like disabling the Rocket Launcher that would break the store.

I also disabled a few of the scrap but the others still work.

Also wow, I never had the dartboard before, so I never knew about the issue of missing darts.

I spawned the rocket launcher itself with Imperium and it works fine, but when it's in the store, it breaks everything that comes after it in the list.

Notably price tags

Which means I got to buy a Cruiser for dirt cheap thanks to the Rocket Launcher breaking crap

[junior falcon]

I've had zero issue with store items. I was told not to disable any as that will dysync the store itme list

[pseudo karma]

yea disabling the store items has caused shop desyncs

[gilded basin]

Hence why I just want a standalone teleporter trap mod

[devout fox]

I usually just buy all the stuff myself while my crew does the bumbling around towards the dropship.

[long grotto]

What?

Having Lethalthings' store items enabled is exactly what causes the desync

[junior falcon]

Uh I haven't had any dysncs

[long grotto]

I have them all disabled and its synced up perfectly fine

no I know, you said that

but whoever told you that is wrong

[junior falcon]

That is weird. I swear it was the person who has ownership of the mod confirming what I said. Idk. Ctrl f and see. You might be able to find who told me

[pseudo mist]

I forked and modified a version that only had teleportation traps and rocket launchers, and I'm not sure if I could upload to thunderstore

[royal lynx]

the current mod works as is afaik so i dont think u can

[gilded basin]

You can still upload forks no?

[gilded basin]

It has an MIT license so you should be good so long as you credit the original author

I would love to have this 🙏

[royal lynx]

you can but why would you? the mod works fine, if it's just to split up features then it'd get taken down because all you're doing is reuploading the mod

[gilded basin]

I don’t want the other features and the bugs that come with them

[royal lynx]

the only bug im aware of rn is disabling shop items causes problems, just keep them in the terminal and ignore em

[gilded basin]

There are more bugs

[royal lynx]

like?

[gilded basin]

.

[royal lynx]

yeah, and a mod was made for it

to temporarily fix a feature until i can finish remaking the mod

if it's a fixes mod that's fine, but reuploading the mod doesnt seem like a good idea

[gilded basin]

Its not a reload if it’s “forked and modified”

[royal lynx]

it's not modified though, it just removes some features

im not john thunderstore so i cant policy what happens there, and im not the original creator so its not up to me either, but this is just reuploading of specific stuff someone liked in a mod

[gilded basin]

aren’t there plenty examples on thunderstore of mods just like that which are just a standalone features from other mods

[royal lynx]

i'd want an example because i cant think of any off the top of my head

and moons dont count

if someone tried separating my mod's features like coderebirth's into separate modules i'd get that immediately taken out because it's just reuploading/stealing lol

trust me i get the frustration of there having not been a fix upload of lethal things yet, and i do want to work more on it, but i dont have the time rn, the github is public for anyone to contribute if they'd like to too

[gilded basin]

Coderebirth doesn’t have an MIT license

[royal lynx]

i plan on giving it one at some point, and even with that license im within my rights in thunderstore to take down reuploads

because that's what they are, reuploads

[gilded basin]

Where are the thunderstore rules/tos?

I couldn’t find them before

[royal lynx]

uhh i forget to be honest, im just speaking from experience/being told when some people asked about it to the lethal company's thunderstore community manager

which is robyn afaik

[gilded basin]

Well either way, I’m sure it’s not hard to add a few features such as extra configurability that would justify the standalone mod existing in its own right

[royal lynx]

@vital forge read from here and lemme know what u think

[gilded basin]

Even if lethal things gets cleaned up and actively developed, I only want the teleporter traps anyway. It’s just less bloat to have a standalone mod. Like I think the weathers in code rebirth are cool and would love to have them, but I wouldn’t download the whole Coderebirth mod just for them (even though I could disable everything else in the config)

[royal lynx]

it (should be if not) up to the dev who made em not others, you're entitled to nothing in a mod, saying this in the most respectful way i can cuz i know itll come off differnetly

[gilded basin]

Right, and my understanding is that the license describes the devs policy on reuse

[royal lynx]

it does, but thunderstore would just be terrible to devs if it allowed anyone to repost their content because they wanted to

and there's hundreds of examples of mods trying to do that and getting taken down

[gilded basin]

I see why that could make thunderstore leave forked content up to the discretion of the original devs. Unfortunately we can only speculate about vague thunderstore rules because they don’t seem to be posted anywhere (not that they don’t exist)

[devout fox]

Having certain items enabled causes a shift in the entire list of prices.

[royal lynx]

i wasnt sure exactly what it was because i heard that, and i also heard that disabling any of them breaks the terminal but some recommend disabling em all?

[devout fox]

I recommend disabling the Rocket Launcher specifically because I tried buying it from the store and it just didn't work

[royal lynx]

that might've been LLL's filter thing lol

i remember rock tag

[devout fox]

https://tenor.com/view/mgs5-metal-gear-solid-snake-fire-why-gif-15219632

[open vine]

is it also known that a feature in another mods like wooden crates from code rebirth and "ghost dropship" from ghostcodes, shop items from lethal things still spawns even they are disabled

[royal lynx]

yes that's kind of a bug in LL not LT

but also kind of a bug in our mods not LT or LL

it removes em from the terminal but not the buyable items list

[open vine]

alrighty

[pseudo karma]

using terminal conflict fix is a work around for now

[devout fox]

I say Rocket Launcher because I looked all the way through the list of items and their prices, and the incorrect price shift began with the Rocket Launcher, only getting fixed when disabling it.

[pseudo karma]

hmm, personally i just enabled all the shop items and just ignore the ones i dont wanna use and i havent had price desyncs since

[devout fox]

So everything was the correct price it should be?

[pseudo karma]

mhm

[devout fox]

I guess it'll be worth checking out again.

[fierce condor]

crossposting the issue here as the Github looks unread: #1327068908129095700 message

[desert heart]

do boombas work yet?

or are they still broken : (

[azure panther]

they be workin for me

[devout fox]

They work. Now crank up their spawn rate and watch them go!

[manic wind]

they never broke?

[open marsh]

A while back some people were reporting that they didn't always explode when stepped on. But yeah, have not experienced the issue myself yet

[devout fox]

That could be a product of server lag

[desert heart]

it was from when the game updated, the boombas stopped working. i guess they were fixed

[open vine]

I don't know what happened and where to report this. the latest update of LethalLib is breaking my pack. cant even create a new lobby/save (stuck in fart room). Version 0.16.4 is fine for me

pack code : 0195cc6e-8fd2-4ec6-99d0-a0f8a89bfe5d

my pack is somewhat large sorry

logs if you need

[royal lynx]

Ah damn

I'll take a look soo

Soon*

Weird part is that it worked for me but ig something didn't like a change

[royal lynx]

While loading your profile

Lol

[open vine]

damn wtf 😳

[opal cedar]

lethalexpansioncore in 2025 😭

[open vine]

shh i know. its that there's the scrap mods that uses it as dependency. I tried to speak to the dev of that mods but they are not familiar with porting and such

[royal lynx]

is it normal that coderebirth cant even load in your pack because of a weird error with input utils?

[open vine]

hmmm coderebirth running normal I think?

cuz we sees scraps, gals, weathers, enemies from coderebirth on our regular game

[royal lynx]

doesnt load on my end, input utils errors out lol

[open vine]

I think I found the mod causing my problem. I believe it was LethalWashing (again 😭)

ye got no error and created a lobby just fine with LethalWashing disabled

sorry for the inconvenience 😭

[royal lynx]

it's fine i fixed the problem from LL's end lol

so i am rolling out an update

[topaz chasm]

I think I'm having a similar issue. I can't land or leave moons sometimes and have to restart the day, and the error I managed to see this last time is this one:

[18:38:06.8404198] [Error : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
Stack trace:
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMDTerminal::SetItemSales(Terminal)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMDStartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay(StartOfRound,int)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineStartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay?-1727988532(StartOfRound,int)
LethalThings.MonoBehaviours.FatalitiesSign.StartOfRound_PassTimeToNextDay (On.StartOfRound+orig_PassTimeToNextDay orig, StartOfRound self, System.Int32 connectedPlayersOnServer) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/MonoBehaviours/FatalitiesSign.cs:34)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookStartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay?1967287260(StartOfRound,int)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound+<EndOfGame>d279.DMD<StartOfRound+<EndOfGame>d279::MoveNext>(StartOfRound/<EndOfGame>d__279)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

[royal lynx]

I need the whole log, the other person had a different issue related to a separate mod

[topaz chasm]

I think the log file got replaced by a new one, when I restarted the game, this one doesn't have the errors anymore. But from the Github I saw someone had the same problem and they said you just have to buy the Fatalities Sign

Seems to be an issue when you die and respawn when leaving the planet if you don't have the sign

I'll send the log next time we play and it happens

[royal lynx]

Thanks

[stuck kraken]

the save file was corrupted

you basically added a mod that corrupted your save

[topaz chasm]

It's a new save though, no mods were added after starting it

[topaz chasm]

It happened again, here is the log file:

[broken thicket]

@royal lynx The game got stuck when I went into orbit, its sort of random.

I got this error relating to Lethal Things though

[20:20:47.3158554] [Error : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
Stack trace:
(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMDTerminal::SetItemSales(Terminal)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMDStartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay(StartOfRound,int)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineStartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay?-749942888(StartOfRound,int)
LethalThings.MonoBehaviours.FatalitiesSign.StartOfRound_PassTimeToNextDay (On.StartOfRound+orig_PassTimeToNextDay orig, StartOfRound self, System.Int32 connectedPlayersOnServer) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/MonoBehaviours/FatalitiesSign.cs:34)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookStartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay?1511713740(StartOfRound,int)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound+<EndOfGame>d__279.DMD<StartOfRound+<EndOfGame>d__279::MoveNext>(StartOfRound/<EndOfGame>d__279)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

[stuck kraken]

Why did LethalThings just start ignoring the config bruh

i told it do not enable the remote radar and it did anyway

[grizzled ether]

Just to be sure, it is the exact item you disabled?

The base game has an unused handheld mapper tool and I believe LethalThings adds both.

[stuck kraken]

yes

and the hacking tool

and the toy hammer

in fact the toy hammer i didnt even touch

it just still has it as enabled for some reason

[grizzled ether]

LT has two separate hammers for some reason (probably related to scrap/store item settings) so you can't completely disable it.

Sorry, I'm not an expert on this mod. Hope someone more knowledgable can help you out :(

[polar plinth]

how does the chance to become a lost/maggie config work? is it just any time you use a teleporter? do you have to have a snare flea on you? does it work on both teleporter types?

[royal lynx]

i wouldnt recommend enabling the stuff with maggie/lost, currently broken enemy that wasnt supposed to release

[opal cedar]

is this a harmless error

[real quarry]

How exactly do the boombas work? They don't seem to explode on contact unless you're crouched, but I had one explode earlier when I sprinted over it

[manic wind]

was this tried within the last week?

than they prob broke

bc they just work like moving mines normally

[real quarry]

They've never exploded on contact for me, I only just figured out they can explode when sprinted over

Originally I wondered if RandomEnemySize shrunk their collision box but they behave the same at 100% size

[manic wind]

RandomEnemySize and or v70 broke them

this mod does seem to just die whenever a new version comes out lol

try testing without RandomEnemySize

[vernal forum]

@willow abyss How would I go about removing the "Revolver" scrap item from your mod, not just removing it from the spawn table? I need this because it conflicts with the ID name for the "Revolver" weapon from the Piggy's Variety mod:

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Piggy/Piggys_Variety_Mod/

[open vine]

they are not the maintainer anymore
should be @royal lynx

btw just testing JP on mansion got this error

[royal lynx]

oh, gotta update JP

[vagrant stag]

If I dont have Maxwell soon I will cry

[long grotto]

Wait does Ross work?

I mean I know that sounds like a dumb question

but just incase

[royal lynx]

dunno

[long grotto]

Want me to test it?

I could also test JP & Pjonk if you want me to

I wanna be a helping hand

[royal lynx]

if you want to lol

i know JP doesnt work rn so ill recompile that later

[long grotto]

Wait he doesn't?

I'll be the judge of that

Imma hop on lethal right now

I'll send it in the d of ms

[waxen sandal]

For some reason charging metal doesnt strike the ship with lightning anymore

[forest sequoia]

Hey @willow abyss did u ever fix those wierd lighting changes caused by this mod? Its very apparent when looking in the main entrance. The lighting is wierdly fucked up.

Also can u make a standalone boomba mod?

[open vine]

👍

[humble tiger]

Dont use this mod my brother

[forest sequoia]

Why?

I mean i dont because of the lighting issues

But is there like some controversy or something?

[humble tiger]

It's ultra mega broken
And a remaster of the mod is in the works (slow yeah but this will come)

[forest sequoia]

W

Thx

[open vine]

i use it fine tho but yea wait for the remaster

[royal lynx]

screenshot/video?

[forest sequoia]

just compare the 2. go to main entrance while modded take pic, and then do unmodded and take pic.

[neon whale]

If reporting a bug to get something fixed please provide the evidence requested instead of telling them how to get it themselves. Sorry not trying to be rude, but posting evidence and logs tend to get better results and possible fixes.

Also i do support the request for a stand alone boomba. Why has this not been made yet??? Lol

[royal lynx]

maybe after coderebirth's update and its bugs get fixed ill finish this

coderebirthlib would be out by then too so things should be easier

[vagrant stag]

And whats the remaster gonna have

Hopefully its the same but just better coded

I want to throw cookie fumo

And Maxwell

[royal lynx]

yes it's the same but better coded

i havent worked on it in a while but i was also reviving incomplete/scratched mechanics occasionally

monster juice or whatever its called was initially supposed to turn you into a hydrogere but that code was commented out for whatever reason

[neon whale]

Not gonna lie I like the concept of this lol.

[vagrant stag]

Oh god lol

Can we have an option where it just kills you

I always love my head exploding

[open vine]

make the hacking tool have a long interaction (like Safes in coderebirth) instead of math 😫

[opal cedar]

If you can get the utility belt to add slots the same way mods like hotbarplus does (so it's compatible with literally anything else) that would be so awesome and cool

[royal lynx]

yeah itll definitely be changed to have the code from there if i can figure it out

[neon whale]

Lethal Things Rebirth Edition!

Not gonna lie ive been excited and afraid of what Xu will do when they remake this.

[small grove]

it'll have at least 24% more hoochi mamas

[pseudo karma]

it would be so peak...

[willow abyss]

its AI was extremely messed up when it happened outside and i couldn't be bothered to figure it out

it was throwing errors all over the place

[royal lynx]

oh lol, yeah that's weird

[willow abyss]

also bonus feature that was never done because no one wanted to rig models (or animate), i wanted to make it so if you gave the energy can to the cookie plush she would come to life, run around wildly and run into the nearest wall knocking herself out

[royal lynx]

lol that would've been funny, and probably pretty easy, ill bother my animator about it at some point maybe

[willow abyss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMGBJ5-V4is

[vagrant stag]

Oh hi evaisa

Thanks for making cool mod

[undone granite]

rare eba appearance

[stuck kraken]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/lynksdev/MetalRechargingUpdated/

use this insteaad

[waxen sandal]

Yeah, I was mostly looking for a manual way to activate the electric chair, sadly this one just causes an explosion instead of the lightning

[neon whale]

Zap gun....

[waxen sandal]

Yeah without that

[barren thorn]

It’s a good investment

[willow abyss]

when the things are peak

[vagrant stag]

You are spreading to every game

[small grove]

plushie that fucking kills you

[long grotto]

wait ur back!!

Yippeeee

[vagrant stag]

I do hope we see that lethal things update

I love Maxwell and the monster that kills me

[restive zephyr]

hi eba @willow abyss

[willow abyss]

hiii

[lethal marten]

this is the first time properly seeing footage of the game aside from clips, welcome back content warning

[small grove]

yeah it reuses a shit ton of physics stuff and sound effects

which kinda sucks cuz CW's sound effects lack soooo much punch

[vagrant stag]

Its still a fun game tbh

[small grove]

it do be

[minor nebula]

Arson (Mandatory)

[junior falcon]

I hear this problem where someone will buy an item from the shop and get the wrong item but it has yet to happen to me. Does anyone know the specific cause?

[pseudo karma]

the cause is having any lethal things shop items disabled

just leave them all enabled

[junior falcon]

I disabled the rocket launcher and it still worked? I tried it out like 15 mins ago

I'll try it out on a different empty save and see if anything changed in a min

[pseudo karma]

shrug, it doesnt always happen, i remember it being kinda inconsistent

[opal cedar]

mod goes haywire on kite's Zeranos after regenerating the dungeon

i turned off the handheld radar as well, and it still spams this error

[lethal marten]

👁️

[royal lynx]

still working on crlib 🥲, with that one's update and bugs finished ill be able to move on from lethallib and add content in a much better way than any other mod rn

basic todolist i have but there's slightly more things

[polar plinth]

is there a way to fully disable crystal ray and maggie? cause even with their spawn weights set to 0 it seems they still spawn under rare circumstances. idk what crystal ray does and he isn't really bothering anybody, but maggie tends to bug things out pretty hard when they get ahold of anyone and i'd like to avoid them spawning in the future

[opal cedar]

No

I think it was planned to have a killswitch for those two whenever this mod gets updated but god knows when that'll be

[hybrid finch]

is the bug known that when you drop the utility belt with items in it it softlocks your game for non host

ive had it happen a few times and its a little annoying

you're not able to interact with anything, drop any items, pick up anything

[glad yew]

Kind of a late response but some mods allow you to do -1 to disable enemies if 0 doesn't work, dunno if it works for the LT Enemies

[opal cedar]

i doubt this mod ever got advanced enough to use that

[glad yew]

Could test it

[glad yew]

Actually you can use LunarConfig to disable them

by setting the max count to 0

Or actually, if you look at a disabled enemy like the Prototax for example in Biod if you turn that off, just use the curves

[opal cedar]

doesnt that only work on natural spawns

[glad yew]

Possible

Can just use this curve to disable them

They can't spawn if their curve tells them to not spawn

the reason they spawn is cus by default they have a small curve that allows them to

[glad yew]

@opal cedar Is there anyway to fix the Boombas not working btw or do I disable them til the rewrite?

I noticed they couldn't explode lol

[opal cedar]

i dont use them ever

idk

[foggy gale]

brokey

[manic wind]

so is every other mod for the mostpart

for the time being

[brazen hare]

is there anything that works in this mod or not?

[hazy raptor]

need to go back to v72

[long grotto]

hope it gets updated

probably wont

but who knows

Otherwise

we need an individual mod of Maxwell and Cookie Fumo >:)

[hazy raptor]

theres a working maxwell mod no

[long grotto]

Is it actually working?

[hazy raptor]

solo yes, not sure about multi tho

[brazen hare]

i was thinking more about random teleporter trap and boomba

[empty crown]

@royal lynx weren't you planning on updating it?

-# If not, would it be okay, if I had a look?

[royal lynx]

sure you can take a look, i do plan on doing it later when im done updating dawnlib

[glad yew]

You should prolly let him look at what you've already worked on lol

[pseudo karma]

testaccount project number 134

[spice knoll]

Here to send love to the Axe in this mod as its the only thing making playing vanilla maps like Titan bearable

https://tenor.com/view/don-gif-9520776680112053549

It heals me that I can kill the fucking giants with it

[hazy raptor]

stock up on easter egg 🥚

[waxen lichen]

Would be awesome if this was updated

[waxen lichen]

Though with how absolutely catastrophicly destructive v73 was, i'll probably not be updating for a long time

[manic wind]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/joncnoj/LethalThingsFork

some forked it ig

[royal lynx]

ye i gave him some advice on things they need to do for optimisation and fixing

[still orbit]

tell them that te remote-radar doesn't work

[royal lynx]

yeah i figured they didnt do the netcode patcher bit lol

[still orbit]

nor rocket launcher

[royal lynx]

so most networked things wont work

[still orbit]

oof

[royal lynx]

@meager ridge if you need help setting up netcode patcher there's some stuff in #dev-general pins and you can also ask me if it doesnt work

[meager ridge]

i did the dotnet tool -g install and added the post build step

🤔

[deft wraith]

does this mod stil lwork in 73

[meager ridge]

are you using 0.10.8 or 0.10.9
only 0.10.9 was built with netcode 😓

[still orbit]

latest version

[meager ridge]

hmmm weird, i'll try to take a look

[meager ridge]

@still orbit got it to work, new version will be up in a few minutes 🙂

[still orbit]

testing rn

[meager ridge]

is your mod manager detecting the update? mine takes like 30 minutes to realize there was one, even when i manually refresh the modlist 😓

[still orbit]

working :]
Althought If I could ask for smth, maybe buff the hacking tool

It takes too long to just open a door lol

Oops
Found a bug

If you get teleported by a teleporter pad, the hud dissapears

[meager ridge]

are there any errors in the console window?