Lategame Upgrades

[steady trail]

Somebody mentioned that.

[warped shadow]

lemme try that tho interns worked on my test account, tho the disable setting for this mods interns is an actually issue

as it doesnt work

[warped shadow]

ok that worked

[steady trail]

I will look at the enabled thing.

When I'm done with other important stuff.

[warped shadow]

yeye

just good that you know

[wicked lake]

rubber boots and cargon kneejoints jsut straight up are not applying their speed reduction removals, there's no difference when in a sinkhole or crouching lol

[steady trail]

Works fine on its own

[turbid steeple]

do you think it could be an issue with a dependency?

[steady trail]

Doubt it.

[steady trail]

As in not one of LGU's dependencies.

[turbid steeple]

im just as confused as you. it does look like the only place that can write true to UpgradeBus.Instance.activeUpgrades["Running Shoes"] is in BaseUpgrade.Load(). however, i do see that commenting out

LguSave.playerSaves[id] = JsonConvert.DeserializeObject<SaveInfo>(Encoding.ASCII.GetString(json));

in LGUStore.UpdateLGUSaveServerRpc stops the problem from occuring. so, somehow, the stuff in playerSaves[otherPlayerId] is making it into UpgradeBus.Instance.activeUpgrades

and it doesnt seem to be LGUStore.UpdateUpgradeBus, because the log i added never shows up

[steady trail]

Ah, so it's probably a deserialization shenanigan I didn't ask for.

[knotty island]

are maneaters meant to not be hit by the discombobulator

[steady trail]

Hit or stun?

[knotty island]

well it appears they dont get stunned by it

to clarify

[steady trail]

While they were mature or baby?

I didn't check if they could be stunned or not.

[steady trail]

Yeah, so it seems it just stops it from leaping and nothing else.

Doesn't even have an animation when stunned, lol.

[devout prism]

[19:24:07.3193016] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
MoreShipUpgrades.Managers.UpgradeBus.Reconstruct () (at <3b212875abfd445d81fbe46b17552a62>:IL_002B)
MoreShipUpgrades.Misc.LategameConfiguration.PluginConfig_InitialSyncCompleted (System.Object sender, System.EventArgs e) (at <3b212875abfd445d81fbe46b17552a62>:IL_000D)
CSync.Lib.SyncedConfig2`1[T].OnInitialSyncCompleted (System.Object sender, System.EventArgs e) (at /home/runner/work/CSync/CSync/CSync/CSync/Lib/SyncedConfig2.cs:49)
CSync.Lib.ConfigSyncBehaviour.OnNetworkSpawn () (at /home/runner/work/CSync/CSync/CSync/CSync/Lib/ConfigSyncBehaviour.cs:95)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour.VisibleOnNetworkSpawn () (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0000)
UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour:VisibleOnNetworkSpawn()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject:InvokeBehaviourNetworkSpawn()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSpawnManager:SpawnNetworkObjectLocallyCommon(NetworkObject, UInt64, Boolean, Boolean, UInt64, Boolean)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSpawnManager:SpawnNetworkObjectLocally(NetworkObject, SceneObject&, Boolean)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject:AddSceneObject(SceneObject&, FastBufferReader, NetworkManager)
Unity.Netcode.SceneEventData:SynchronizeSceneNetworkObjects(NetworkManager)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager:HandleClientSceneEvent(UInt32)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager:ClientLoadedSynchronization(UInt32)
Unity.Netcode.SceneEventProgress:<SetAsyncOperation>b__37_0(AsyncOperation)
UnityEngine.AsyncOperation:InvokeCompletionEvent()

[steady trail]

Nice.

The prefab didn't spawn again.

[silver pendant]

is there a way to disable the landing thrusters because it made our ship so slow

[sturdy oxide]

Yeah in the config, which is named moreshipupgrades, disable the upgrade

[silver pendant]

like in the game? or the files

[sturdy oxide]

In your mod manager

You’ll see “configs” search for it and hit “edit config”

[silver pendant]

ty

[umbral imp]

Trying to do Item progression with custom scrap am i stupid or is it done a different way i have tried Apparatice as it show's by scan aswell or Apparatice as it show's when sold and none work i also tried with Flask

[steady trail]

Lower case should work for Apparatus.

Also I don't know what's the "@1" for.

[umbral imp]

Grabbed it from Apparatus Items but i see now that it has to be lowercase that fixed flask aswell thank's

[small dirge]

Popping in to make a light suggestion that Locksmith be a tiered upgrade where on the first tier, you get one try to unlock the door before needing a key, and increase the amount of chances you have with each tier (or optionally make it unlimited on the last tier like the way it is now). This way, keys and lockpicks would have more of a progression and maintain usefulness for longer

[gaunt fossil]

What if there was an upgrade that specifically reduced gunshot damage? Useful for prologing survival against turrets and nutcrackers

I can't tell you how many times I've died to some bs turret placement in solo

[humble panther]

sounds nice actually, something along of bulletproof

[gaunt fossil]

Yea I was thinking "bulletproof suit" would be a good name

[vague cove]

@steady trail Yeah can confirm, as the host, Landing Thrusters work great. For all clients, each day gets progressively slower when landing.

[steady trail]

#1178407269994594435 message
If you want to try it out.

[vague cove]

Oh cool if you're aware it's no big deal, I'll just avoid buying that specific item until it's updated

[steady trail]

I don't really have the time to test stuff now considering this month is when semester starts.

[vague cove]

EZ, just get old like me 😛

But yeah understandable 👍🏼

[steady trail]

Hm, people use overrideWeather.

I assume it shows clear in the moons list?

This maybe fixes the issue of showing the wrong selected weather.

[granite moth]

still rainy. it uses override weather to make clear into dustclouds

it was rainy when i landed

[steady trail]

Hmm

I will just make the override weather show first.

Plus it's only relevant if it's toggled on.

[cerulean sage]

What's your terminal mod btw, looks cool

[granite moth]

this is just weather probe

[cerulean sage]

Oh

[sturdy oxide]

Hey both times I pulled the apparatus last night I hit the glitch where I couldn’t interact with anything after

Vanilla moons and facility interior

Don’t know if it’s this mod but I don’t know what else it could be in my pack?

[wet pasture]

What upgrades where active

[sturdy oxide]

Very few like drop pod thrusters, malware broadcaster, and bigger lungs, maybe one or two more small ones

No back muscles

I guess I was thinking maybe something from the feature where the apparatus gives an upgrade but that doesn’t make sense since that would be on collection not pickup

Oh

The other bug which is just a bug in this mod

When anyone besides the host buys an upgrade it doesn’t subtract money, but it does give us the upgrade

I have “share all upgrades” to true

This is recent it wasn’t happening a few weeks ago

[steady trail]

It's fixed but not live.

[sturdy oxide]

Oh sweet looking forward to the fix

[thorny ferry]

also little thing but the upgraade that makes you move faster while crouched doesn't really work

[outer plaza]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/iFwd4JV3pFfy6j36l/d1337Op0rv0P?invite=cr-MSxzRnEsMjYyMzg4OTQxLA

there's an issue with the upgrade that makes the ship land faster that makes it become slow for all clients

only the host gets a speed increase, everyone has it decrease

and it got worse each round

[dense idol]

#1178407269994594435 message

[dry beacon]

Can I get help to translate to another language?

[steady trail]

It works on its own.

[stark monolith]

Has anyone had an issue with the terminal not working for clients? They have had to exit the terminal and re-enter it to do commands like teleport and intern

Not sure if it is this mod or something else that messes with the terminal

[vague pollen]

anyone in here also have experience with this mod?
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SillySquad/Selenes_Choice/
I wanna know if when you buy a random contract does it only get picked for the limited moon list Selene makes or all the moons

[sturdy oxide]

Yes it works

I use both and it always gives me a moon I have access to

[outer plaza]

ah cool

[strong jungle]

Hey i have a problem, i have the late game upgrade mod installed but no matter what i type in or search in console it says it doesnt exist. is this a conflict?
0191edf8-5112-ada3-8e3e-983ceb30180e

[drowsy blade]

two questions i have about this mod:

1. is it supposed to reapply sales to already bought upgrades (im using the "apply sales only to one purchase" thing) whenever i quit and make a new lobby?
2. why does the worldbuilding log for the beekeeper upgrade mentions circuit bee venom when they only seem to use electricity?

[steady trail]

1. I didn't really think of people constantly leaving the game. It should be fine on next release.
2. Because somebody wrote it as so. I don't have time for world-building text.

[steady trail]

Uninstall Strange Objects and it starts working.

[stark monolith]

Could it ever be possible to make interns spawn in the item drop ship?

[drowsy blade]

wouldnt that mean certain death if dogs are nearby?

[stark monolith]

It can be certain death if interned into the interior too lol

[sturdy oxide]

You can just teleport them back right away

Tho they can still die before that

I play with interns free so I just revive them again lol

[lone rose]

Seems like this mod currently doesnt decrease the credits for purchasing character upgrades like better scanner

[steady trail]

Known to happen for clients.

[stark monolith]

Will quantum disruptor still work if I use longer day to change the default day length?

[steady trail]

It should as it only needs to know what's the length of a game hour.

[dry beacon]

There's a bug that doesn't reduce money when a team member buys an upgrade.

[lone rose]

oh so the host has to purchase?

[lone rose]

#1178407269994594435 message

[dry beacon]

yes.

[opal ivy]

is it host only

[steady trail]

For now, yes.

It's a problem with individual upgrades yes, but it will have to be that way til I can manage to update the mod.

[steady trail]

There's a release, you can check if your issues were fixed or not (and if new issues appeared)

[bold star]

Yo I like this change alot

[gusty flint]

Thanks, made it myself

[steady trail]

To see how it looks and if they want a different shade of green.

[lone rose]

yay u fixed the client purchase credits consumption

[bold star]

Looks very nice!

[bold star]

Great work!

[steady trail]

snorts

[bold star]

Thank you guys

[bold star]

Wait thought they helped?

I feel dumb now

Im gonna awkwardly leave the chat now

[steady trail]

I made it today so nah.

[bold star]

I see

Good job man

Sorry I got really fucking confused

I thought they helped with stuff 😭

[steady trail]

It's fine, they like doing that, lol.

[gusty flint]

lmao

sorry

[drowsy blade]

oh apparently the 'scan scrap' command includes everything inside the ship i havent picked up since the lobby was created

[steady trail]

Pretty sure that's vanilla being forgotten about putting those in the ship.

[drowsy blade]

the vanilla 'scan' command doesnt seem to include them though

[steady trail]

Pretty sure they do because I remember them being a nuisance when we were using it.

[dry beacon]

Is there an error where the rubber boots don't work? It's slow even if I buy an upgrade.

[steady trail]

Seems to be working just fine.

[dry beacon]

Looks like it's colliding with another mod. Let me check.

[steady trail]

Yeah, it's working.

[sturdy oxide]

Sweet thanks for fixing the client purchase bug! Dark green for maxed upgrade is a big brain change too love it

[steady trail]

1st, 2nd or what we have right now?

This is just to show you can't purchase due to lack of credits.

[gaunt fossil]

Also just to be clear, Quantum disruptor also slows monster spawning?

Actually that's a dumb question

[steady trail]

Because they are influenced by how fast the day goes.

[granite moth]

1st

[sturdy oxide]

If you want to further color code the menu you could have some distinction between

1. upgrades you haven’t purchased at all
2. upgrades where you’ve purchased 1 or more tiers but not the max
3. maxed upgrade

I don’t think that’s really necessary tho

I like 1st or what we currently have

[steady trail]

I'm just doing this because somebody wanted color change.

And also showing disabled upgrades but I find it unnecessary because if they're off, showing in the store would just clutter.

[sturdy oxide]

Yeah please do not show disabled upgrades in the store

[steady trail]

Same for coloring the warning text?

[steady trail]

WIP, still figuring out how to get back to this menu once you select one of these. (Once you select, it will show the typical store with the upgrades)

Done, just made the exit go back to this.

Seems to be working fine.

[sturdy oxide]

Hmmm are you sure that’s something you want in game not just in the config? I personally can’t see a use for switching between those in the same save

[steady trail]

It's either this or marking each upgrade.

[steady trail]

Plus it's not a matter of what I want. I have always been doing what other people want.

This was and still is always a hobby.

[sturdy oxide]

I didn’t mean “you want” as in the thing you want

I meant it as in “are you sure that’s the best design decision”

[steady trail]

I mean

There's only so much feedback I can gather.

And obviously I cannot satisfy everyone.

[gusty flint]

I'm satisfied

[steady trail]

I'm always open to suggestions, I just need them to exist.

[sturdy oxide]

I’m just asking what this is for?

[gusty flint]

[steady trail]

Somebody asked for a way to distinguish individual and shared upgrades.

[sturdy oxide]

You’re doing a great job and I love the mod I’m not trying to be critical

Ah so this is for the use case where people have “all upgrades shared” set to false, but some of the upgrades shared and some individual?

If this is what people who use the individual upgrades asked for then I’m sure I just don’t understand since I don’t use that feature anyway

[steady trail]

Yes.

It will affect nothing if all of them are shared or all of them are individual, it will do the same thing as before.

Though that way, you wouldn't know when joining a public lobby, probably.

[bold star]

Oooooooooooo, this is gonna be goooooood

[tawdry wadi]

I still really want a way for disabled upgrades to be truly disabled

So I stop getting nvg's and medkits from crates

[gusty flint]

@steady trail you'll probably have to feed the setupstoreitem in item manager the enabled config cuz LL doesnt correctly handle unregistering an item

you currently feed config to alterstoreitem in upgradebus

[steady trail]

So not register if disabled?

That sounds fun for network mismatch, lol

[gusty flint]

wdym?

[steady trail]

So I still register the prefab?

Just not the item.

[gusty flint]

oh, i mean i dont think i register the prefab either, see no real point in doing that, but idk if registering it will cause any problems, probably not

[steady trail]

If they have the same config, it won't.

However public lobbies would be more difficult to join, I guess.

[gusty flint]

i dont like working with the assumption that people dont have the same config :<

but u have csync i think?

so idk how that works

[steady trail]

That only works when you get into the lobby.

[gusty flint]

ah true

[vocal anvil]

not the same thing

[steady trail]

The issue here seems that the items that are disabled were supposed to not be in the item list but they still are.

[gusty flint]

issue kinda on me too but yea

[steady trail]

I mean

The SO doesn't really have anything to see if its enabled or not.

[gusty flint]

oh, true

and yea getting rid of it from that list would probably work?

buyableitemslist

[vocal anvil]

shouldnt ll just be fixed or am i tripping

[gusty flint]

yeah it'd probably be done from LL's end, i'd jsut have to ask hamunii later

but idk the exact details so not sure if they needed to still be in that list

seems like it was just missed i think

[vocal anvil]

does ll actually do that linq every time

[gusty flint]

to unregister an item? probably yeah

[vocal anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/soup-gif-21077818

[steady trail]

Oh, there's an translation of this.

And it's basically a reupload with different strings.

[gusty flint]

that's always fun to see

[steady trail]

I don't mind it, just curious on how they would have done the translation.

The way they did, they will be forced to update the mod everytime I update, lol.

[gusty flint]

rip lol

this is ur sign to update the mod

:4head:

wait

no

[steady trail]

I did that yesterday tho.

[gusty flint]

i miswrote my own joke

i meant to say

never update the mod

kill me

[steady trail]

Nice.

[inner glade]

thas ilegal

[meager depot]

when you disable the sigurd access upgrade in the config it still shows up on the terminal

anyone else have the same issue?

[steady trail]

Did you disable both?

Because there's also the last day one.

[meager depot]

thats weird, every other upgrade just has one single toggle for enabling/disabling it, why does this one have two?

[steady trail]

Person made it so

[meager depot]

you might wanna consider changing that if possible, I automatically assumed it was bugged

since the wording of both of them is also different

[inner glade]

those are completely different things

[meager depot]

have you ever heard of making a comparison

[inner glade]

i don't appreciate your tone

[steady trail]

When I have time to read their code, sure.

It was like.

three months ago when it was made.

[meager depot]

and I don't appreciate people assuming I get things wrong. every other upgrade in this config the first line always starts with being able to enable/disable it, sigurd access is the only outlier so I used a different upgrade as an example.

I know those are two different things, that is the point

[inner glade]

You’re asking for help on something. The assumption is that you’re getting something wrong. I apologize if I came off as condescending, but it’s bad practice to ignore obvious potential solutions.

[meager depot]

I already got my solution to the problem: disable both. I kept the convo going on how this could be improved since this is a mistake anyone unaware could make.

that is all, let us relax now

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-kinkytwt-michael-jackson-gun-stan-twitter-stan-twt-gif-8838448374497139850

[inner glade]

😃👍

[fervent matrix]

Dude this is garbage, We need Earlygame Upgrades, Not late! /j

[steady trail]

Cool.

[sturdy oxide]

Lithium Batteries enters the chat

I hit the same issue with Sigurd Access lol I turned it off, still saw it and was very confused since all the other upgrades I turned off actually got turned off

[gaunt fossil]

Is there a way to remove the third upgrade on better scanner?

Leaving it blank didn't seem to work somehow

[loud radish]

better scanner does more than just incremental improvements. what i personally did is make the last tier an absurdly high number

[drowsy blade]

you could try setting it to the integer limit i guess

[fervent matrix]

Вы можете увидеть пример на видео, где я показываю кейс моего модпака.

sorry russian.

You can see an example in my video where i showcase my modpack

i use a lot the scanner there

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1285215067675295854

[sturdy oxide]

Same

I set it to 99,999

[jaunty harness]

in a new update did they get rid of the "extend deadline"

[gaunt fossil]

Moved to different mod

[celest heron]

I just found that there is an item progression mode, and I really like it. Would there be a way to add to the store screen what items need to be sold for each upgrade?

[steady trail]

It's displayed after you sell them to which upgrade they are associated when you check an upgrade. .

Under discovered items I believe.

Not sure if I have a picture around to show..

Hmm, doesn't seem like it.

[celest heron]

Ohhh, okay. Would there be a possibility to add an option to show it all the time?

[steady trail]

All the time?

As in having the info already shown?

Without being hidden before selling.

[celest heron]

Yeah, that would be awesome for my group.

[steady trail]

I can make it something like a config, I guess.

[celest heron]

Thank you, I appreciate it!

[fluid river]

Hi!
Is there a possibility to add a confirmation screen to scrap insurance before buying?

Also, I find it a bit strange that all other LGU commands (and their branches) have confirmation or a rollback option in case of just checking and/or typing error except this one. (I don't remember if Interns has a confirmation box or not)

Since these are commands that are no longer easily noticeable, I add it manually to the main screen, but I have received messages where people buy it by accident because they wanted to check what it does.

[steady trail]

Would this work?

Also no, interns doesn't have one from what I remember touching it three or four months ago.

[fluid river]

yeah

thanks a lot

[inner glade]

how do you get interns / scrap insurance?

i've never seen them in the lgu menu

[steady trail]

They are in their own mod.

LGU's README links to each.

And there's also a modpack which links all of them.

[sturdy oxide]

Used it last night, it does not

[inner glade]

these are the only links i see in the README

i don't see the interns

[steady trail]

Interns is still in LGU, yes.

The help command should still be lgc because someone wanted that.

I only half answered your question last time

[inner glade]

ok cool. thank you

[sturdy oxide]

You select a dead person on the in ship map and type “intern” into the terminal to replace them

Can set the cost to 0 in the config to try it out

[steady trail]

Got bored.

[inner glade]

:0

[steady trail]

Found funny thing tho.

Same item day only allows between 50 and 170 as scrap value.

[sturdy oxide]

Yeah I wish there was a way to remove this or at least the caps and weird multiplications it does since it’s balanced for vanilla

[steady trail]

Another one to not be bored.

[sturdy oxide]

Ooh that’s a good one

[loud radish]

need.

need.

NEED!

[steady trail]

Last one before I go to sleep now.

[loud radish]

good god...

@mint monolith ^

[tawdry wadi]

I already like the Jetpack as is tbh

It has a learning curve, I can imagine this might lead to some problems 🤭

[loud radish]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-fun-funonabun-gif-27069322

[steady trail]

I can also increase the max cap of speed if need be.

[granite moth]

why would you ever turn the acceleration up you're going to combust instantly

[steady trail]

Hm?

[grizzled dew]

the jetpack doesnt blow up when you get to a certain acceleration anymore

i think

[celest heron]

Not sure if this is a mod incompatibility or not, but one of our players used the "Extend Deadline" command on day 0 at the company and it wasn't using up our credits. So we could add infinite days.

I tried it as the host up in orbit and it took the credits out as expected.

[steady trail]

Right.

Because of the same thing of ownership being fucked.

[umbral bough]

whats the max nv range before epilepsy mode?

[steady trail]

Shrug?

The max Unity can handle without dying, I guess.

[gusty flint]

What range do u have it set to

Could be a farclipplane issue

[steady trail]

Apparently 2k.

With an intensity of 1k.

[umbral bough]

1 trillion

not sure what the units are

[gusty flint]

The highest u can do is like 350 lol

[umbral bough]

the default value is 2000

[gusty flint]

Hmm

Then it's not about far clip plane

Not sure what dictates max then

[steady trail]

Hope it's not buggy.

[sturdy oxide]

Dunno exactly the strategy you’d want to use for this but, there are various hoarding bugs added from other mods such as Kamikaze Bugs from Brutal Company and Hoarder Queen from Rosie’s moons. Any way these could be made to drop hoarding bug samples?

[steady trail]

I would need their internal names to start anything.

Either that or allow you to put names and associate a given sample to it.

Which I don't remember if it allows that or not.

[loud radish]

thank you for continuing to jack up my character provide fun upgrades ^^

[sturdy oxide]

Haha the 2x loot value is a lot of power

[loud radish]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-glasses-sparkle-gif-10669548

[sturdy oxide]

I do not believe it does. I was thinking about this, each sample could have a config field of enemies that drop that sample? But that seems a bit overkill since the only ones I can think of are Hoarding bugs and Forest Giants from Xu’s Giant Specimens

Also is there a Maneater sample? That could be another thing to add if not, I don’t remember

[steady trail]

It should have one.

[sturdy oxide]

Ooh great you’re the best

[sturdy oxide]

The wishlist for dropping hoarding bug samples:
KamikazieBug
HoarderQueen

[native carbon]

I really wish there would be less player-upgrades and more ship-upgrades. I keep disabling the new ones because I prefer the ones like the lightning rod, signal translator upgrade, malware broadcaster, etc.

[flint nebula]

What other ship upgrades do you have in mind? I think the reason player/tools get upgrades is because theres more room there to improve.

[native carbon]

Like teleporter upgrades, a ship medkit, better loud horn, etc

[cobalt flint]

not sure if its intentional but going off the changelog & whats actually in game Jetpack Thrusters displays the same description as Jet Fuel

[steady trail]

Where it says "acceleration", it's "maximum speed"

[cobalt flint]

theyre both saying acceleration for me

[steady trail]

sigh

That doesn't mean it does the same thing.

It's just a text typo.

[cobalt flint]

alrighty

[grizzled dew]

split pfp...

[cobalt flint]

🥪

[subtle glacier]

would it be possible for a configurable feature to be added that prevents teleporting newly bought interns back to the ship at least until they've made it back outside (or even made it back to the ship preferrably)?

[sturdy oxide]

Yesssss please we play with this rule among my friends but if I publish the modpack I need this

[steady trail]

?

The text seems too long.

Seems to be working fine according to what you want, now it's just a matter of setting when to clear the player.

[steady trail]

Both seem to be working fine.

[drowsy blade]

[Recent intern must exit the building/enter the ship first.]?

[humble panther]

v3.10.3 intern at titan with mine interior make people stuck at the void

[humble panther]

i hope this is toggle able cuz of that stuck at the void part

unless theres a better way to do this 🤔

[steady trail]

That's nice because supposedly interns always picks a spot where enemies can walk through.

So either there's a node that is miles away from the interior for some reason or there's navmesh going out of bounds.

[humble panther]

🤔

[dense idol]

I mean I've had times where I've spawned over a pit in vanilla facility lol

[sturdy oxide]

Enemies can jump over pits so it counts maybe lol

[sturdy oxide]

The ask for me at least is because I play with the intern command costing 0, so you’re not losing anything even tho it sucks in cases like these

That’s my use case at least. If I had it set up to cost money still I’d just teleport people because it’s too inconsistent otherwise to be worth spending anything. Even if it doesn’t teleport them into the void the odds of them making it out are seldom very good

[dense idol]

Yeah sometimes when interning in a mansion you can spawn inside a bookshelf, some of them being softlocks lol (same can happen with just an inverse tp)

[sturdy oxide]

Yeah I think all the same cases of getting stuck apply to the inverse tp

I’ve had the bookshelf one before myself

In vanilla facility you can also get stuck on top of the apparatus holder

[steady trail]

Just like that one time where I went into a locked room!

Three times!

[hollow dock]

How do i access the upgrades now? I was using this before but some of the namespaces were changed i think. MoreShipUpgrades.Misc.TerminalNodes.CustomTerminalNode[] filteredNodes = MoreShipUpgrades.Managers.UpgradeBus.Instance.terminalNodes.Where(x => x.Visible && x.SharedUpgrade && (x.UnlockPrice > 0 || (x.OriginalName == MoreShipUpgrades.UpgradeComponents.TierUpgrades.Player.NightVision.UPGRADE_NAME && (x.Prices.Length > 0 && x.Prices[0] != 0)))).ToArray();

[random mirage]

quick question

are both upgrades supposed to have the same description?

i think yall mighta copy pasted the description for the Jetpack Thrusters for the fuel

[burnt lake]

unintentional yeah

[dense idol]

Locksmith my beloved

Saves me so much when inversing or using tp traps

[steady trail]

No

[steady trail]

Well yeah, I have to copy from some upgrade to spare the keyboard mashing of the same thing.

Speaking of which, there's probably some missed copies that needed refactored due to it being 3 AM at the time.

And apparently someone is still having trouble with ship speed.
Why can't mods just let the calls happen, oh well. Time to find another function to patch that is between level generation and ship starting to land.

[turbid steeple]

how about This intern must return to the ship first

the context (hovering over the teleport button) implies that its related to teleportation, so we don't need to say it in the text

or This intern must first return to the ship

[vocal anvil]

location out of range ?

[sturdy oxide]

Your bad for not having the locksmith upgrade haha

[drowsy blade]

did a simple test and vanilla's scan seems to work fine while lgu's scan scrap doesnt (zed dog for reference)

[steady trail]

That still doesn't solve the problem that still considers the item in the facility.

[steady trail]

It was vanilla playthrough.

[steady trail]

Don't think people would understand that when trying to teleport someone out and was next to somebody else who they could teleport.

[steady trail]

Because items have three bools, two for checking inside of ship, one for inside the facility.
Scan uses the two while scan scrap uses the one.
And regardless of any use case, the two should reflect the state of the other and vice versa.

[drowsy blade]

is lvl 2 deeper pockets supposed to increase the two handed cap by 2 or 3?

[steady trail]

By 2 as in besides the 1 you get from vanilla, you gain additional two before considered two handed like usual.

[drowsy blade]

yeah but i can hold 4 two handed items

[steady trail]

And nobody messed with the config?

I'm just talking about default.

[drowsy blade]

never messed with the cfgs

[steady trail]

No idea.

Default max is three.

Just tested and it works fine on its own.

[drowsy blade]

...so apparently i have another mod thats messing with the two handed cap (even though i dont remember getting any), sorry lol

[outer plaza]

does deeper pockets work with maneaters?

[sturdy oxide]

Haha

[outer plaza]

I am curious, I want to be evil

[dense idol]

not anymore 😔

[keen shoal]

it would look like you ate him

[outer plaza]

did it work before and now it's patched?

[outer plaza]

yeh but I wanna grab it and take it out of the facility, fly off out of bounds and drop it off there

on my evil shit

[steady trail]

No, it would break its AI.

[outer plaza]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/346603145520087041/1276197287491538964/SaveTwitter.Net_GVHX15RXoAApby3_gif.gif

NOOO im so sad

[opal ivy]

can u upgrade the doors

[steady trail]

In what way?

[keen shoal]

there's an upgrade that makes the ship's door last longer, if that's what you're looking for

[indigo crescent]

Hi ! Can we have keyboard sound on the lgu menu like on the rest of the computer or is it technically hard to make ?

Also I was wondering if carbon kneejoints had an incompatibility with another mod since I get no difference between lvl 0 and max

[steady trail]

Nobody reported incompatibilities and it works on its own.
100% carbon means crouching speed is the same as walking.
Keyboard sounds would have to recheck the one where it would always scroll down the terminal to the bottom whenever you typed.

[indigo crescent]

Oh yes you're right it's the same speed as walking

It's actually just working my bad

So that means putting sounds in this menu would be painful ?

[steady trail]

It could be easy or it could be hard. I would have to read the code again.

[keen shoal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1239693595917811753/1274396524243062855/convert.gif

get upscaled

[wintry warren]

Hi, its me again. Any updates on the individual upgrades being shared to the host and all upgrades being shared when lobby restart?

are these the ones? Havent played the game for a while.

if so, what was the problem? (optional)

[steady trail]

All upgrades being shared on restart, I don't know.
The other thing was additional features I did not ask for.

[wintry warren]

ok thanks anyways

[wintry warren]

Update. Me and my budy tried again. This time the upgrades stayed on the individual player and everything worked untill we restarted where I got my upgrades as the host but my friend got his upgrades and mine.

progress since last time. Now only the restart problem exist, atleast half of it

where does the file save upgrades?

[steady trail]

When you exit the game.

As in lobby.

[wintry warren]

ye

my bad

exited the lobby

[wintry warren]

?

[steady trail]

Where?

In the save file of the lobby.

[wintry warren]

where the mod stores the information about what upgrades are bought on the savefile

[steady trail]

In the key labelled "LGU_SAVE_DATA" through the usage of ES3.

[wintry warren]

how do i find it

[steady trail]

Where it's readable?

Nowhere.

[wintry warren]

ok

in what .cs file can i find it

(looking throught the github)

[steady trail]

Where it executes the save logic?

Probably LGUStore.

[wintry warren]

cant see that key in UnityFIles\shipupgrades\LGUstore.prefab

[steady trail]

I didn't talk about prefab.

[wintry warren]

that is the only LGUstore i can se while using the search

my bad

im blind

[little gazelle]

hey so me and my friends keep having a "ship in motion" freeze as the random seed part when going to a moon is forever stuck at that point, i got this from the dc bot

MoreShipUpgrades.Managers.UpgradeBus.Reconstruct () (at <2e3c47b998be401c93eff7cdcc9b055a>:IL_002B)
MoreShipUpgrades.Misc.LategameConfiguration.PluginConfig_InitialSyncCompleted (System.Object sender, System.EventArgs e) (at <2e3c47b998be401c93eff7cdcc9b055a>:IL_000D)
CSync.Lib.SyncedConfig2`1[T].OnInitialSyncCompleted (System.Object sender, System.EventArgs e) (at /home/runner/work/CSync/CSync/CSync/CSync/Lib/SyncedConfig2.cs:49)
CSync.Lib.ConfigSyncBehaviour.OnNetworkSpawn () (at /home/runner/work/CSync/CSync/CSync/CSync/Lib/ConfigSyncBehaviour.cs:95)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour.VisibleOnNetworkSpawn () (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0000)
UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkBehaviour:VisibleOnNetworkSpawn()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject:InvokeBehaviourNetworkSpawn()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSpawnManager:SpawnNetworkObjectLocallyCommon(NetworkObject, UInt64, Boolean, Boolean, UInt64, Boolean)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSpawnManager:SpawnNetworkObjectLocally(NetworkObject, SceneObject&, Boolean)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject:AddSceneObject(SceneObject&, FastBufferReader, NetworkManager)
Unity.Netcode.SceneEventData:SynchronizeSceneNetworkObjects(NetworkManager)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager:HandleClientSceneEvent(UInt32)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager:ClientLoadedSynchronization(UInt32)
Unity.Netcode.SceneEventProgress:<SetAsyncOperation>b__37_0(AsyncOperation)
UnityEngine.AsyncOperation:InvokeCompletionEvent()

lmk if u need full log+code

[steady trail]

My prefab didn't spawn plus this would be when you join a lobby, not when landing.

[little gazelle]

oh

[arctic steeple]

@steady trail Think I may have found another issue with the Wheelbarrow. If you put it in the company cruiser for transport, there's a chance of the wheelbarrow getting stuck handlebar side in the wall if you let it go while too close to said side. Attempting to grab it results in just pushing the cruiser. Here's an image of what I'm talking about:

A mod like Cruiser Additions should be able to partially resolve this issue by being properly configured to move items into the ship when leaving a planet, but while you're planet-side this issue effectively renders the Wheelbarrow useless.

[lusty socket]

yo! quick question. It appears I can no longer see the advanced portable teleporter/ portable teleporter/ wheelbarrow/ helmet etc. in the ingame store. Is there any reason for that? They are enabled in the mod config

[steady trail]

They are in separate mods.

[steady trail]

I can try the same method I use in the scifi crate where I can just hide the deposit interact prompts when you're not holding an item.

Thus I can put the grab prompt in the same place as the deposits.

That will probably solve that issue.

When I get the time to mess with this again, anyways.

[lusty socket]

How is that mod called? I was asking since the config for them is still in the "moreshipupgrades" config

[steady trail]

Should be the same names as the items.

Same for other mechanics like Extend Deadline.

Also the config doesn't clear dead entries by itself.

[tawdry wadi]

@steady trail Any idea what is erroring here when clients join a lobby?

This error is specific to clients

[steady trail]

Same as this one.

[tawdry wadi]

What prefab is supposed to be spawning that fails for clients?

[steady trail]

And the other two that posted here long before.

The store manager which handles network things.

[tawdry wadi]

fun

[steady trail]

Could be not spawning or the field is incorrectly initialized later.
Can't really see the issue right now.

[tawdry wadi]

I would guess it fails to spawn for clients, cus I've never had the error as a host

But idk for certain

[mortal berry]

Honestly, there should be like a contingency for if the Wheelbarrow/Shopping Cart handles get stuck in walls. Many a time, I have lost my Wheelbarrows and Carts because I dropped them while I was against a solid object facing away from it only to realize I couldn't get it back out...

[arctic steeple]

Hopefully WhiteSpike's proposed fix solves that issue then, Wheelbarrow's just too nice not to have.

[little gazelle]

just wanted to say my issue was feralcompany mod lol

[earnest ferry]

Hello my friend is also getting the black screen bug when joining and not me when im hosting. We don't know why but it stops when disabling this mod. Not sure if some incompatibility issue or something. Heres the profile code: 01924f50-376a-6425-3cc7-a66d0abe6d7a

My log (host)

Friend log (client)

[steady trail]

FixPluginTypeSerialization seems to die because HTTP request failing.

So anything that uses that will probably also die.

[umbral bough]

Whats the vanilla reach distance?

2 units?

+0, +1, +2, +3, +4, +5 reach

wait tf, it says 5 units in the code??

[umbral bough]

Also forgor but does this stack?

like is 4 people maxxed on it 2x?

Does Stimpack persist on death?

[burnt lake]

no and yes

[umbral bough]

thats not an answer

[fluid river]

yes

[umbral bough]

ok so if i have it so that everyone has 200 health then they respawn with 200 health right?

does it heal up to that between days as well?

[fluid river]

idk about revive inmatch like interns or other mods

but when leaving a moon, the dead player will revive with full health

[umbral bough]

what if they don't die

[burnt lake]

both of the questions u asked are yes or no questions

I was ignoring the 'question' that was just more clarification of what was meant

👍

[umbral bough]

oh that the bee effect does not stack?

or that it does

[burnt lake]

No, the hive value multiplier does not change per player, just based on the upgrade level

Though actually I don't know how it functions if it's not a shared upgrade

[umbral bough]

yeah thats what I'm wondering

[steady trail]

No.

[steady trail]

Yes.

[steady trail]

The same, only the host needs to know if theres any maxed beekeeper to increase the value.

[steady trail]

They still have their health topped out.

[steady trail]

Interns considers Stimpack, other revives would have to know if stinpack exists or not to give additional health on revive.

[steady trail]

I only got this when something went wrong with patching (while developing) but current version doesn't seem to have a problem with patches right now on its own.

[subtle glacier]

is there any estimate on when the update with the intern teleport limitations will be released?

[steady trail]

Not really.

[wintry warren]

Hi again, we still have the same problems that the upgrades dont stay bound tho the right player when relaunching the savefile.
We recreated the problem and here is our two logs.

I was the host
Prexii was player 2

mods installed LGU 3.10.3 + dependencies and Imperium
Only the setting to overide the all upgrades indiviual turned off in config

We made a new save
Bought upgrades (1 shared: hunter 1 lvl, I got Bigger lungs 1 lvl, he got strong legs 1 lvl)
Everything worked upgrades were separate (unlike 4 updates ago, probably)
We quit the lobby and started it again
I got the hunter lvl 1 and my Bigger lungs lvl 1 I bought
My friend joins and get Hunter lvl 1 (the shared upgrade), his strong legs lvl 1 and MY Bigger lungs lvl 1

last time we tested this bug I the host got all the upgrades. this time Prexii got all the upgrades instead of me

Any idea on what it could be? Thanks in advance

[steady trail]

I managed to make an update release today so it should have what you wanted.

I will go read more now.

[sturdy oxide]

I was considering if a shotgun damage upgrade would be good, so I was reading up on how the shotgun works:

An increase of 1 damage to the -2hp zone is way, way more impactful than an increase of 1 damage to the -5hp zone, obviously, so it might be a bit tricky to balance

[steady trail]

What about messing with range thresholds?

Increasing the red and orange areas while decreasing the green.

Damage numbers remain the same, just the "falloff" would be different to say.

[sturdy oxide]

Yeah another idea would be to just increase the range, like make the whole elipse longer

The thing I'm thinking about is like, players building familiarity with the weapon

If you mess with the range or thresholds it maybe makes that a bit less intuitive, like you get used to how close you have to be to 1 shot but then that range gets expanded with an upgrade, but then you lose and you start missing kills because you don't have the upgrade any more

Wheras with damage (like with the shovel damage upgrade) it's just "I need to remember the amount of damage I'm doing based on my upgrade level"

[steady trail]

I can do both the range and damage if needed.

The same I did with the jetpack.

[sturdy oxide]

Kinda different from building an intuitive feel for the range

Yeah I initially didn't realize that this is how shotguns work because I haven't used them much

My first thought was just "if the shotgun could do 6 damage instead of 5, it could 2 shot eyeless dogs", that's what inspired me to look into this

[steady trail]

Meanwhile shooting a player is just a cone, lol.

[sturdy oxide]

I know it's implemented so weirdly haha

And I think a bunch of people still use the mod that makes it shoot individual pellets

[steady trail]

Like yes, this make sense.

The whole -100 covers the entity shooting area.

[sturdy oxide]

Yeah of course you can hit your friends at 2x the range of enemies makes perfect sense

[steady trail]

They secretly have homing tracking to Company employees.

Thus why they have that extra boost.

[sturdy oxide]

[burnt lake]

i think it's funny

[sturdy oxide]

Yeah it's honestly not that unreasonable even. Say the super far range where it does -20 player hp is getting hit by like one shotgun pellet. One shotgun pellet hitting an employee would do serious damage. One shotgun pellet hitting like a thumper? Something tells me the thumper would be fine

[steady trail]

Both seem to be done.

I will take a look at teleporter and see if I can do something decent tomorrow.

sighs

[sturdy oxide]

I was thinking about the shotgun damage upgrade, what if you had one that affected the 5hp and 3hp zones called like “Shotgun Close Damage” and a separate one for the far called like “Shotgun Far Damage” or something

Idk if that’s too confusing for players tho

But balance wise I think that makes the most sense? I’m still not super solid on what’s right for it

[steady trail]

The fact that the enemies have like three health points doesn't help either.

[sturdy oxide]

Yeah exactly

Having the whole eclipse one shot hoarding bugs is a huge upgrade

Whereas adding 1 damage to the 5 and 3 hp zones barely changes any breakpoints

Having the 3hp zone hit for 5 is a big upgrade too, if that zone gets +2 damage it gets way easier to kill the ton of enemies that have 5hp

[steady trail]

- Implemented tier upgrade which allows the players to teleport with some items in their inventories according to the tier they are located.
  - The tiers mechanism is similar if not the same as the Hunter: you specify a list of items which is then separated by another delimiter to separate between tiers.
  - You specify either the names listed in the Company Store or the name displayed in the scan node (or their internal name stored in the ``Item`` instance of the game's code)

I'm going to sleep now, it's like 4 AM.

[sturdy oxide]

Ooh that’s a cool one

[misty plank]

so are you ever going to make the nightvision goggles individual like the blue helmet or is it gonna be linked to everyone forever

[steady trail]

Not sure, dilly seemed against and they were the ones that made the night vision.

[steady trail]

After some tweaking, you shouldn't have your inventory stuck or keep items after you die.

Still happens when you die while being teleported tho..

[steady trail]

No longer!

[steady trail]

@loud radish Did you mention something about silver bullets? I vaguely remember hearing it.

[loud radish]

allows you to kill ghost bitch

with guns

[steady trail]

I managed to patch it to do that (hoping it doesn't break anything else)

So yeah.

[loud radish]

you are a god

[steady trail]

I was just praying that the girl had collision detection to begin with because it would mean even more work.

[tawdry wadi]

An upgrade I will never turn on in my pack

[steady trail]

Kek.

[tawdry wadi]

I like the ghost girl being invincible

Sorry Pepsi

[loud radish]

a desire for my pack 🙂

[tawdry wadi]

It would break the game too much

[loud radish]

honestly, dont even need it for Piggy's. give the shotty some more utility

[tawdry wadi]

Piggy's is broken anyways unfortunately

But imo it would make more sense for a mod like Piggy's to have it

[loud radish]

tho id need to make sure it works with these 2 https://i.gyazo.com/c2244f526186ebe313afbd09cb150fe4.png

[steady trail]

Also the shotgun doesn't set a ID when hitting something.
So I have no idea if other ways of hitting will end up with the same ID as the shotty.

[tawdry wadi]

I don't think game breaking things should exist in a mod like LGU

[steady trail]

I highly doubt you can hit a ghost with a shovel.

I mean

Increasing damage is already game breaking.

[tawdry wadi]

There's a reason why I disable a handful of upgrades

XD

[steady trail]

Well yeah.

It's up to the user what they wanna keep or what not.

I just give them the options.

[loud radish]

i know sleight of hand doesnt work with one/both of these. just never narrowed it down...

[steady trail]

I never understood making a new shotgun class.

Might aswell just fix the vanilla one.

But okay.

[loud radish]

ill give it a try in my test rn

odd... it's neither of those

not puggy's

piggy's*

found the culprit

https://i.gyazo.com/ac3d136d554fb230ce48069b1aa315a8.png

dont know which end would need to be patched tho

[steady trail]

Yeah, it just doesn't let vanilla run.

[tawdry wadi]

Probably why this mod got removed tbh

[loud radish]

here's the thing

it's back

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/EnoPM/InfiniteShotgunWithReload/

[tawdry wadi]

@steady trail I believe I found the culprit for ShipWindows and stuff breaking

Looks like LCTarotCard explodes on lobby reload

[dense idol]

It got removed cause it was client side iirc

[loud radish]

think i found an alternative

alternative is a success

went the Ammo Tin route

now i just need them silver bullets .3.

[dense idol]

I can't think of anything that isn't either game breaking or I never use lmao

[humble panther]

im putting garlic, salt, and crucifix on my shovel

[sturdy oxide]

lol way too late for that

I would argue that being able to outrun forest giants with a full inventory of loot is more game breaking than being able to shotgun the ghost girl

Making the shovel hit for 3 damage

Doubling loot value and amount

I like the philosophy Spike has of, “add it if possible and people can disable it”

[steady trail]

These are essentially features which are locked behind a paywall that you can change both of.

And it didn't get banned from TS because host needs to have it, lol.

[tawdry wadi]

My pack has never been balanced where you can outrun forest giants for good reason lol

[steady trail]

At least you didn't accidentally put a default where you could one shot it.

At least I could see the upgrade was working.

[sturdy oxide]

I have Brutal Company Minus to add difficulty to counteract the power you get from LGU

And even so I have the run speed upgrades costing 4000,8000,12000,16000

[lone moth]

Does Midas apply to hives and stack with Beekeeper?

[mortal berry]

This is only with shotguns, right? Projectile weapons from other mods will not be able to do this?

[steady trail]

The patch is only on the shotgun.

[steady trail]

Different spawn mechanic so I don't think so

[mortal berry]

Ah, so the two guns in Piggy's variety wouldn't benefit from this, but what about modded shotguns, such as BCM's SlayerShotgun? (Has infinite ammo, no safety, used by a unique nutcracker)

[steady trail]

If it uses the same code used by the vanilla shotgun, yes. Otherwise no.

[mortal berry]

Seems like it might then

[steady trail]

I can always do the same thing I did with sleight of hand for other upgrades.

[zenith spade]

Hello, did you find any way to fix it ?

[earnest ferry]

Unfortunately no, we just gave up for now lol

I remember it was working like couples months back with everyone. Then we took a hiatus from the game and updated all mods after, and it stopped so idk really.

[steady trail]

Funny noises.

[umbral bough]

does a mod show the helmet/nv goggles?

like the wearable api?

[steady trail]

Show?

Like helmet should already show on its own.

NV I don't think so.

Without the API you mentioned.

[umbral bough]

interesting

what about hud?

[steady trail]

HUD?

Like you're asking who didn't make it so yeah..

I won't really have the answers to all questions about it.

[umbral bough]

well I was looking for one that did it but ig if most people did I can just search it

[subtle glacier]

that's awesome, thanks

[fervent matrix]

Is lgu compatible with lethal constellations

?

[steady trail]

In what way?

[fervent matrix]

Lgu have a upgrade that lowers the price

Its probably compatible but wanted to ask just in case

[steady trail]

If it doesn't mess with how core routing works in general, it should be fine.

[sturdy oxide]

Worst case you can just turn off the LGU upgrade

[low radish]

Anybody else encountering problems when doing the Exorcism contract? Party members keep exploding the pentagram despite using the correct item shown in terminal. Host placing the items seems to be just fine.

[sturdy oxide]

My party members did one fine last night. Are you sure they used the right items?

I was hosting

[low radish]

yes, we repeated the contract several times to make sure

[sturdy oxide]

Huh

[steady trail]

If you have the logs from that, I would appreciate.

Because I haven't touched contracts forever.

So if they aren't working now, they haven't before.

[low radish]

Where are the logs stored?

[arctic steeple]

< Your Mod Manager (i.e. r2modmanPlus-local) >\LethalCompany\profiles\Default\BepInEx

[low radish]

dang, I think the previous logs were overwritten because we were restarting the game multiple times.

We have a video clip of it happening though, would that help?

[low radish]

Asked for my party members' logs, I think this is the error message.

While this is the log when the Host placed the items on the altar:

[steady trail]

@mint monolith any idea what I need to mess with to not have this popup from MattyFixes?

[mint monolith]

from a quick look at the error i'd say your PlaceableSurface does not have a parent

which i should account for but i don't as it never happened on vanilla 😅

[steady trail]

Well, it is a flat surface laying on the ground. So if anything it would be parented to whatever the floor is, lol.

[mint monolith]

either to that or at least to the Environment object?

[steady trail]

I didn't check what the item class parents to when it falls off.

[mint monolith]

is it an item?

or it is a map piece

[steady trail]

What is a "map piece"?

Because it's a SpawnableMapObject which derives from GrabbableObject.

[mint monolith]

a room/map furniture/ground ecc... not too sure on how to call that category

wtf why is it an Item then?

[steady trail]

I don't know.

[mint monolith]

but anyways when spawned the parents of items is desynced in vanilla

for clients they all spawn w/o a parent

while on server they might be instantiated with a parent

[steady trail]

Okay sorry, I was wrong apparently.

For that particular pentagram, it's just a networkBehaviour.

[mint monolith]

you need to manually add and RPC to sync the parents

still same the NetworkObjects by default do not sync the parents

[steady trail]

Okay so...

[mint monolith]

if it never changes parent you can make do with the first two settings here

[steady trail]

I would have to open Unity to know the mess it is right now.

Okay so it indeed has the Physics Prop script.

I wasn't hallucinating when I was remembering how the contracts were made.

[gusty flint]

theres a problem with having a physics prop spawn as a spawnable map object?

[steady trail]

Don't think so.

It's just a funny mess to clean up.

[gusty flint]

lol what am i looking at

what item in LGU even is that

[steady trail]

A contract item.

Specifically the pentagram one.

[gusty flint]

ah

why is there an interact trigger?

[steady trail]

Because the prop is not grabbable.

So I would assume they just added the interact prompt there for whatever they wanted to do.

[gusty flint]

huh

should i ask why theres then a physics prop

lmao

reminds me of my hoverboard

[steady trail]

To fall to the floor?

[gusty flint]

so cursed

icic

[steady trail]

I think that's the only reason I can think of.

Because I'm seeing most if not all the fields not used so I just assume it uses its falling logic to not be floating when spawned.

I will try the two settings and see if it dies on its own first.

[mint monolith]

if it inherits from Grabbable or any other networked object in the vanilla game . thoose settings will actually cause issues

[steady trail]

Sadge.

[little gazelle]

that... explains so much

[low radish]

Same problem?

[little gazelle]

yes

[low radish]

Idk why party members are affected, we have the same modpack

[lament agate]

Hey, found a incompatibility regarding this mod and PizzaTowerEscapeMusic when paired with FacilityMeltdown:

https://github.com/Malcolm-Q/LC-LateGameUpgrades/issues/557

Figured I'd post it here as well.

[slim kayak]

this would purely be an issue with pizza tower escape music considering that the default meltdown music is disabled

[lament agate]

Gotcha, should I rename the issue for some better clarity?

[slim kayak]

bleh it should be fine

[lament agate]

sweet :3

[steady trail]

Hmm

I don't know what you want me to do, the logs state it played on both occasions you described.

Oh no, only after the escape, huh.

Still don't know, I never mess with sounds.

Much less on the apparatus itself.

[lament agate]

yeah idk what it could be, just very strange as bugs can often be

[steady trail]

And on fresh install, I have the music playing

No messing with the config besides adding the "Apparatus"

[lament agate]

interesting, let me try it again

[steady trail]

I guess I can now mess with meltdown config to put what you described.

Tho I don't know if I am able to hear anything at zero volume but we will see.

Hmm

[lament agate]

I just tried it again and I got it working 1 out of 3 times

with the pack I sent with the config changes

super weird

[steady trail]

I can try like five times and see if I get a fail.

So far, it hasn't.

[lament agate]

this is whats happening to me most of the time

[steady trail]

Yeah, no idea.

I'm not using Imperium so that could be one of.

Though supposedly it's a debug tool so it shouldn't mess with.

[lament agate]

hmmm

[fluid river]

It could be another mod that is making the conflict

[lament agate]

maybe, the reason I was thinking it was this was because when I disable LateGameUpgrades, it starts working again

Disabled the performance mods and I'm left with:

Lordfirespeed-OdinSerializer-2022.11.9
BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.7.7
xilophor-LethalNetworkAPI-3.3.1
giosuel-Imperium-0.2.7
BGN-PizzaTowerEscapeMusic-2.4.0
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.16.1
loaforc-FacilityMeltdown-2.6.20
Evaisa-FixPluginTypesSerialization-1.1.1
WhiteSpike-Interactive_Terminal_API-1.2.0
Sigurd-CSync-5.0.1
malco-Lategame_Upgrades-3.10.4

Disabled some more mods and I'm left with:

Lordfirespeed-OdinSerializer-2022.11.9
BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.7.7
xilophor-LethalNetworkAPI-3.3.1
giosuel-Imperium-0.2.7
BGN-PizzaTowerEscapeMusic-2.4.0
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.16.1
Evaisa-FixPluginTypesSerialization-1.1.1
WhiteSpike-Interactive_Terminal_API-1.2.0
Sigurd-CSync-5.0.1
malco-Lategame_Upgrades-3.10.4

...and I'm still reproducing the bug

[steady trail]

So yeah, all of them played the music.

[lament agate]

huh

and in PizzaTower config you have scripts set to Apparatus,Default?

[steady trail]

Yeah.

[lament agate]

hmm

I just tried it again with imperium and it worked when I walked around for a bit before grabbing it.

But I'm certain this persists even without Imperium since I only added it to streamline the process.

Nvm I think it's because I'm teleporting to it too fast.

Love it, the original pack that I found this bug originally works flawlessly, guess I just needed your magic touch :/

I'm assuming something might have gotten corrupted during a game I was playing which caused the music not playing in the first place

I apologize for taking up your time and any confusion, this is probably an compat issue with Imperium and Pizza, thank you for debugging

[sturdy oxide]

This is gonna be a bit of a reach but you recently added Life Insurance and it’s in the same vein: how about an upgrade that makes you not lose your loot when your team wipes/gets left behind?

[cerulean sage]

there's a one-time version of this called scrap insurance, it used to be in LGU but was split off a while ago

[steady trail]

There's an idea of having a chance-based one, I guess.

Some did this a while ago.

[sturdy oxide]

For that one you have to buy it every day I believe

I use KeepScrap but it’s got an edge case where if the ship gets launched but nobody survives it fails to keep your scrap

[warm sparrow]

I use ShipInventory which has an option to keep your scrap in the config and our very own mammaLlama's Lethal Company Enhancer for saving scrap that aren't in the inventory in the config, and has an option to have scrap 50/50 saved if you still want some lose for team wiping

[sturdy oxide]

Thank you I’ll check those out!

[cloud sage]

https://tenor.com/view/mao-mao-zedong-mao-tsetung-mao-smoking-smoke-gif-20640558

[warm sparrow]

Ship inventory is also fantastic at keeping performance when you have a lot of scrap since your game doesn't have to render models anymore

[main epoch]

Its a cool mod but I do like cluttering the ship with scraps

[warm sparrow]

I do too, but I like getting more than 30fps when walking into my ship lol

[cloud sage]

time to play the company's favorite game - HIGH QUOTA OR LOW SPEC?

[warm sparrow]

High quota, my specs are pretty high haha

and we don't lose scrap on wipe because I wanted to do high quota (We're a Duo on a hard moon)

[cloud sage]

raise ur fweaking paws if u fink dat QuotaRollover shld be a vanilla featore OwO

[sturdy oxide]

I’ve been strongly considering it. The only thing that’s been keeping me from it is the dependency on LethalConfig. I don’t need or want it, and I don’t want it messing with the configs I’ve edited. Am I just being dumb on this?

[warm sparrow]

LethalConfig only reads existing configs and allows you to edit them in-game in the main menu with a nice interface. I have it in my modpack and it hasn't touched anything I didn't touch myself.

[sturdy oxide]

Appreciate it

[fluid river]

You can Hide the menu option o their cfg

[sturdy oxide]

Yeah I’ll do that as well, I imagine if I don’t I’ll get all 9 of my friends asking what’s going on

Appreciate it, gonna try it out next session

[sturdy oxide]

All my homies love Malware Broadcaster

[steady trail]

"We just landed!"

[near mango]

I did not know that the traps exploding would actually affect players lol

[quick pagoda]

Yeah, I kinda blew up my homie as well once 😅

[outer plaza]

I blew my buddy up too on a really high quota round and it almost ruined the whole run LMAO

[granite moth]

why are there trees growing on triskelion

[sturdy oxide]

lol the turrets outside event (Brutal Company Minus) spawns trees too. It makes for some pretty nonsensical scenes but it’s also nice that it changes up the maps considerably.

[late ibex]

Is there a way to save LGU upgrades between savefiles? We happen to upgrade our modpack quite a bit and this requires us to start from scratch. TooManyEmotes have a general save that works, but from what I've seen LGU is saved-based. I'm not against manually adding\copying stuff before runs, but I'd like to know what to look for\copy-paste whenever we do. Thanks in advance

[steady trail]

The save is inside the game save file (as in the lobby one) so I'm not sure what you want to do, lol

I guess making a backup save would work

[late ibex]

I want to extract LGU upgrades and manually insert them on fresh-save Day 0 lobby (take LGU info from last save-create fresh save-exit game-edit savefile-enter with progression loaded) to create pseudoprogression with high-cost upgrades for me and my friends.

[steady trail]

Yeah, I'm not so sure you can do that as an end user.

[late ibex]

I see. Would you happen to know a way\mod to cheat a sum of money as a host? I'll manually pre-buy stuff on new runs in such a case... Or is it gonna be easier to do via starting money and edit THAT pregames to reflect needed money for grades

[steady trail]

You have forcecredits <newCreditValue> from this mod which is host-only incase something went wrong with credits.

[late ibex]

Ah, good

[sturdy oxide]

WhiteSpike two bugs

[gusty flint]

1 programmer two bugs

[sturdy oxide]

When I have the Efficient Engines upgrade and select a moon, it shows the original cost of the moon without the modifier applied. When I route to the moon it charges me the correct amount, though.

[gusty flint]

I've heard of this metaphor before

[sturdy oxide]

If I in the config change the number of medkits spawned to 0 for the Downed Operator Contract, we are unable to heal the downed operator even when holding a medkit. I changed it back to 3 and the contract works fine again. Does it only let you heal him with the medkits spawned in the level?

[steady trail]

Are you using something that changes how the terminal looks?

[steady trail]

Yeah, it only checks for items that are labelled as Medkits, from what I remember.

[sturdy oxide]

I don’t believe so

[sturdy oxide]

??? It’s the exact same item from your mod

[steady trail]

Hm?

I'm confused.

It should work with a medkit you bought from the store is what I was trying to say.

Because they're the same.

[sturdy oxide]

All that I can say

Is that if you set the config to spawn 0 medkits in the facility

It’s impossible to revive the operator with the store bought ones

We tested that pretty extensively

We did not try reviving him with a store bought medkit with spawning of them in the facility enabled tho, I can try that next time

[steady trail]

Ah no, it will not.

Because there was a weird issue two months ago because of another mod with also a medkit and toggling mine off would disable theirs.

So I changed the name.

Likely that I forgot to change the name in the other places.

[sturdy oxide]

Gotcha yeah that must be it

I’ll check on my mods to see if I have anything else changing the terminal

[steady trail]

I can check real quick if I can reproduce with what I got to see if I need to change the patching.

Hm no, it shows in the text correctly as well.

[sturdy oxide]

Huh that’s very strange. I definitely have not gone out of my way to get any terminal formatting mods, I’ll check if I have any that could be affecting it as a dependency

Would the mod Terminal API conflict with it?

Anyway that one’s not a big deal, probably something on my end and it doesn’t affect gameplay at all

The medkit contract one would be nice to get fixed tho so that we can heal the operator with medkits we have bought

[steady trail]

As in interactive?

That one doesn't mess with terminal nodes as far as I am aware.

[sturdy oxide]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/NotAtomicBomb/TerminalApi/

This one

[steady trail]

Ah.

I haven't read that one so I am not sure.

[sturdy oxide]

I can ditch it and see tho I checked the dependencies and realized it’s not essential in my pack

Thanks man appreciate the help debugging

[iron dome]

does Protein Powder's damage upgrade also apply to melee weapons added by mods or only vanilla stuff?

[steady trail]

If they use the same script used for vanilla's, yes. Otherwise no.

[steady trail]

I made an update, if there's any issues on boot after the update, tell me before I go to sleep.

[fluid river]

Time to wait 1 hour :,]

[steady trail]

Hue.

[loud radish]

ohboy ohboy ohboy ohboy ohboy

git ready to munch silver, ghost bitch!

thank you so much for providing this counter 😭

now i just hope it works with both BuyableShotgunPlus and HexiBetterShotgunFixed

wont be able to try til well after yer in bed

hmm... thinking about it, may not need the latter with the range upgrade .3.

[cerulean sage]

got this error spammed, in conjunction with an "infestation" spawn from huntdown. is this a huntdown or lgu issue? don't know if naturally spawned hoarder bugs get this error

[steady trail]

Did you disable contracts?

The IL code seems somewhere where contract logic would be.

Though if it's a manager that is null, that sounds there are more errors on top.

[storm gate]

hi!! i have LateGameUpgrades downloaded and it had just recieved a new update. however, when i go on the terminal none of the actions associated with the mod work, the terminal claims that there are no actions assosiated with them.
all my purchases from the mod also no longer function. i had started a new save to see if its any different and i had reinstalled the mod too, and it still doesnt work. i have closed and reopened the game and have yet to see improvements.

i play strictly solo!! any help is appreciated :D

[steel hollow]

did forcecredits command removed?

with the new update

[steady trail]

I didn't touch it, no.

[steel hollow]

it started to not work right after i updated the mod

[steady trail]

That just sounds the mod didn't load.

I will give it a look.

[steel hollow]

yeah.. sorry the mod didn't load

my bad

[steady trail]

Ah, I know why.

Accidentaly linked another mod.

If you download CustomItemBehaviourLibrary before I upload a hotfix, it should work.

[cerulean sage]

contracts are disabled yea

[bitter star]

So looks like the new update broke the terminal commands

[cerulean sage]

also im testing right now, forcecredits doesn't work, lgu doesn't work

[steady trail]

No, it just broke the mod from patching everything required.

I already know the problem.

[storm gate]

when i check my mod settings while in game, the settings for LGU do appear. visible assests such as the night vision goggles are present

[steady trail]

Like I said, if you download CustomItemBehaviourLibrary before I upload a hotfix, you shouldn't have that problem.

[steel hollow]

But I already have it

[cerulean sage]

i do have customitembehaviorlibrary

[storm gate]

i wasnt reading the messages above when i was writing mine. sorry 😅 i'll try it out right now!!

[steady trail]

Then what's the error when loading?

If you can't access the terminal commands, the mod didn't load.

[cerulean sage]

i'll stick my log in troubleshooting and see what it says

[storm gate]

its working!! :D

thanks 🙏 im so sorry to have bothered you if i did. dont stress about the mistake too much

[steady trail]

I don't.

I just need to know what is the other errors.

[steel hollow]

I can send the log if you want to take a look at it

[steady trail]

Sure.

[steady trail]

FixPluginTypesSerialization seems to have died.

[bitter star]

Sorry I can't see if you;ve answered this but what needs changed in the config to completly disable contracts and the events they spawn?

[steady trail]

I think you have a bigger problem.

Because what's complaining about is something it shouldn't not exist.

[steady trail]

Have you tried fresh profile?

I can't seem to replicate that on a fresh.

[steel hollow]

I will try

[cerulean sage]

set this option to false in config

[steady trail]

Ah, wrong guy.

[bitter star]

Ty boo

[cerulean sage]

my log of it not working, on new save

[tawdry wadi]

I genuinely wonder sometimes with all the upgrades being added to this and the config options never truly disabling some of them how much performance overhead this might cause in a larger mod pack lol

[steel hollow]

tried with only your mod

still doesn't

work

[steady trail]

And the logs of that?

[steel hollow]

sec

[steady trail]

Because I'm more interested in the logs where it has errors from this mod.

[steady trail]

Okay now if you put the library I was talking about earlier.

It should solve the error from that log.

I don't know what you need to do to fix the pluginType problem.

[steel hollow]

It has been like that for the past two weeks but it didn't cause any problem

not even fps drops

[steady trail]

If anything, only boot up.

[tawdry wadi]

Oki

[steady trail]

Oh so it tried to load.

Thought it died.

Hm, teleporter patch didn't work.

[steel hollow]

It works when i install the library on the fresh profile

but not on the modpack so i have to figure it out

somehow

[steady trail]

What else messes with teleporters?

I will just upload the hotfix for the other mod as other errors just seem patch conflicts.

[steel hollow]

enhanced radar boosters maybe

and general improvements

[steady trail]

Ah cool.

It removes the method I'm looking for.

So I would have to know if GI is loaded to get the method they replace it with.

[steel hollow]

disabling both of these mods made it work

[steady trail]

Then again, if GI removed the method I patched, the keep item upgrade won't work.

[steel hollow]

i see

[cerulean sage]

would turning off the keep items and teleporter upgrades potentially fix it?

[steady trail]

No because the patching happens regardless of the config.

[random hazel]

lurking as i literally just went to play and was so confused as to why the terminal wasn't understanding lgu lol

[steady trail]

I can't predict what you do with the config to keep removing and putting code back at runtime.

Right now, for the current errors I only need to look for the new method they replaced with.

Which means another assembly to reference, ergh.

[cerulean sage]

maybe i need to reimport this pack on a new profile

cus toomanysuits got broken now as well

[steel hollow]

yeah same here

[cerulean sage]

same issue i got

[steel hollow]

I actually disabled both LGU mods but

[tawdry wadi]

If you have OpenBodyCams it was the update for that that broke everything for me

[steel hollow]

still happening

[tawdry wadi]

Revert OpenBodyCams

[cerulean sage]

ohhhh

[steel hollow]

oh

[cerulean sage]

yea i just updated that

[steel hollow]

same

[cerulean sage]

i'll roll it back

[tawdry wadi]

Yeah new update is exploding

[kind falcon]

oh, so the whole update is just not working atm?

or is it just not playing nice with a couple things

oo reading backwards is difficult.... trying to find this fix people are talking about

[cerulean sage]

it's being a little inconsistent

one person was able to fix it by installing the customitembehaviorlibrary

but me and someone else already had that and still doesn't work

[kind falcon]

yeah I just tried that

[steady trail]

This should solve the teleporter patching problem.

I just don't patch when something removes the relevant method, simple.

[hybrid comet]

Had basically every kind of contract and its related loot spawn on a moon

[steady trail]

Okay!

[hybrid comet]

Can't access lgu related anything from the terminal

[steady trail]

That just means the mod didn't load.

[hybrid comet]

I'll see if a reboot fixes it maybe

[cerulean sage]

gonna try this dll and see if it fixes it

[steady trail]

It should, I didn't get the error posted here earlier.

If anything, it makes another one appear.

[kind falcon]

should I use this DLL WITH or instead of the normal mod