More Suits v1.5.2

[dire falcon]

works in new update

[undone wing]

perfect, thanks boss

[cloud musk]

question, disabling suits is no longer working i have the !less-suits.txt there and even tried doing like adding to the disabled string but it still hasn't helped?

[rigid citrus]

Can some one make me two skins based off these characters? I'd do it my self but I don't really understand how to and I wanna surprise my girl with customs skins for her an I. It would me a lot to her and I. DM me if interested. Thank you. P.S. I just want the regular suit images that I can add to the more suits file.

[cloud musk]

:/

[dire falcon]

worked for me

[past sable]

@opal cairn @hot frigate @dire falcon Found out something interesting after importing fbxs with different UVs into unity. The original model has 8043 vertices while ones with updated UVs (mine and Mne's) have significantly less (mine with 6840 verts and Mne's with 5985 verts). Because of this, I believe any attempt to use a separate UV file will not work. As unity will typically tell me that one mesh has different amount of vertices than the UV text file contains, which is true.

I have had success with transferring UVs via a text file and a python script in blender, however because of the vertices discrepancy between different fbxs with different UVs, the same thing cannot be done in Unity

[cloud musk]

uninstalling and re installing fixed it for some reasson

[hot frigate]

1 second

[hot frigate]

FBX export may be causing issues

my model is 8043

actually.

8016 tris

not verts

very interesting

[opal cairn]

im assuming fbx export is optimizing/merging verts

[hot frigate]

where did you recieve the base game model?

[past sable]

The interesting part is that both models have the same verts in blender, but not when exported. ADDITIONALLY, when i applied my uvs to the default model in blender (like actually transferring them to a freshly imported blender model) I still get less verts in unity

[hot frigate]

im gonna mess with settings of FBX export

[past sable]

please do. if you can find a way to make the export match the 8043 that the original model shows in unity then that would be amazing

[hot frigate]

blender says my model only contains 3904 verts, yet it's more here, and is still under the OG model

[opal cairn]

not sure what i did but i exported the model and its 24k verts with 8016 tris lol

[past sable]

WAIT

[opal cairn]

let me re do that

[past sable]

That might actually be clutch no

[hot frigate]

whacky

[past sable]

was it 24048 vertices?

[opal cairn]

yes

wait no

24034

[past sable]

damn

unlucky

where were you seeing it? in blender or in unity?

that 24034 i mean

[opal cairn]

blender but i removed and reimported and its not that anymore

maybe i fucked something while testing

[hot frigate]

give me that in-game model rq

i wanna see some stuff

[past sable]

which one the original player model?

[hot frigate]

the one with the correct amount of verts

[opal cairn]

this one?

[hot frigate]

hmmmmmmmmm

[opal cairn]

importing that says 3904

[hot frigate]

alright, likely there's a situation

(ill fix my weird orientation on that model when you imported it) also, are we sure that zeekers used FBX?

im not sure of unity systems, if they act sorta like source and exclude file types. but I remember usage of glb in other engines

[opal cairn]

the glb i got from asset ripper

[hot frigate]

that's a great sign

when using glb i got 5824 verts

which is much higher than the og model's FBX and my model

[hot frigate]

it might just be impossible to transfer UVs (right now) but we'll need more information, currently we might just have a poisoned well; meaning we cant get the right answer with the current resources we have, I got some stuff to do, so I'll be back online tomorrow. have fun and stuff, and look into glb, it might help. ping me if you need something + here's my glb incase it's useful in the future.

[compact delta]

This is amazing, I'm gonna learn how to do this now that ik its not too complex

[compact delta]

omg i have no idea what to do lol

Is there a tutorial on how to do some of the basics for this kinda thing? I'm reading through a lot of the messages and its just got my head spinning a little bit

[worthy dock]

did you watch my video yet?

it explains a good bit of the basics

#1174822763186364486 message

[opal cairn]

way too good

[compact delta]

you are a god send

[dire falcon]

you got transparency working?

[opal cairn]

yep

[dire falcon]

nice

[opal cairn]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ViViKo/RaymanSuit/

[worthy dock]

lmao that's great

[opal cairn]

now time to post some oxygen packless skins

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ViViKo/CleanSuits/ cant wait to see other people have fun with transparency lol

you would need a exture that removes the parts of the tank

this config just allows it to not render those parts

if you dont use that it will jsut render black

[exotic halo]

🙏 ty for this

[opal cairn]

had a idea to do shoe only suit

but you cant see it on the rack lmao

[exotic halo]

how do I give em emission tho, I set it up so it should only make their top emissive just to test

[dire falcon]

Activating multiple keywords broke things for me and I'm not sure why

Other people got it working though so who knows 🤷‍♂️

[exotic halo]

whomst?!

[chrome lantern]

do mimics adopt custom suits?

[opal cairn]

i think this is my current road block for gettign translucent skins to work :/

[dire falcon]

yes but it seems mask zombies are a little buggy right now even in base game so it doesn't always work

[chrome lantern]

Ah, I see.

Thank you

[versed sandal]

Is there by any chance a mod (addon) that just disables the less-suits thing by default? Would be a lot easier to just add that to a mod profile than guide everyone through the config file.

[stiff grove]

Guys I created my model in Blender, how do I add it to the game?

[dire falcon]

Just use the config files. Nobody wants Thunderstore to be clogged up by "mods" that are just 1 line of text.

[versed sandal]

Guiding 10 tech illiterate people to modify a config file is no pleasure and kind of defeats the ease of using a modmanager in the first place. How about adding your default suits as a seperate mod? I do actually like your suits, and it's a shame that adding practically any other suit pack removes them.

[dire falcon]

r2modman has profile codes they can import that syncs all the mods and configs

if you're just downloading a modpack you're doing things the hard way

[versed sandal]

Oooh, profile codes actually carry over the config files? That is good to know.

[dire falcon]

Yeah it's actually just modpacks but better

[versed sandal]

Yeah, they also don't fill the store with pages upon pages of the same stuff.

[turbid canopy]

Blender

Bruh that message was so long sgo😭

[bronze wagon]

Missing Textures (or linked), detected!

help

[dire falcon]

the texture you want is Default.png which is in the mod

[bronze wagon]

sme problem even loc missing files

[dire falcon]

I don't understand where you're getting that error

[dire falcon]

oh it's Blender, good luck I don't know Blender very well.

[bronze wagon]

blender sucks qwq

[exotic halo]

click the material tab on the right

[bronze wagon]

sorry what?

[bronze wagon]

white for me

[exotic halo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnu2tMc0F1c click on the yellow dot on the right, change it to Image texture and add the defualt textures

[bronze wagon]

I HAVE TEXTURES but now i cant drawn on it

fixed

[bronze wagon]

how do you guys add a png on the face?

[exotic halo]

I use paint for that

draw a bright cyan/prupble line on the visor, llok at the left side and you will 3 pieces of the visor that has paint on em, open a copy of defult textures in paint and put a face on it there

[bronze wagon]

ok

[wheat laurel]

Hi, I found a Bug about Clothes. when you start a new game then die/quit the game, and the game is saved

For example, a Clown Clothes price = 90 can be worn straight away without having to buy it, and it appears on the Clothes Rack

[fallen fulcrum]

looking for this, thank you

[bronze wagon]

why does !less-suits.txt not work? it removes all the the suits instead of { Mario.png,Skeleton.png,Glow.png,Smile.png,Minion.png,Kirby.png,Knuckles.png,Luigi.png,Slayer.png }

how does tht work?

[opal cairn]

😂

[glass blaze]

that is cursed

[worthy dock]

is that one billion ants guy

[fallen fulcrum]

aww man, i cant make it translucent

[exotic halo]

how does he have even fewer polygons than normal

[opal cairn]

i tried all day a million different times

last config i tried { "_AlphaCutoffEnable": 1, "_AlphaRemapMin": 0.21686201, "_AlphaDstBlend": 1, "_DstBlend": 1, "_BlendMode": 1, "_CullMode": 0, "_CullModeForward": 0, "_DoubleSidedEnable": 1, "_ReceivesSSRTransparent": 1, "_Smoothness": 1, "_SurfaceType": 1, "_ZTestDepthEqualForOpaque": 4, "_ZTestGBuffer": 3, "_TransparentZWrite": 1, "_ALPHATEST_ON": "KEYWORD", "_SURFACE_TYPE_TRANSPARENT": "KEYWORD", "_MATERIAL_FEATURE_TRANSMISSION": "KEYWORD", "_ENABLE_FOG_ON_TRANSPARENT": "KEYWORD", "_DOUBLESIDED_ON": "KEYWORD" }

[exotic halo]

see what I’m missing Imma need some of that

[opal cairn]

yea i have a few suits thnat do wacky stuff like that imma release soon

[tropic mist]

I'll give the uv map importing a shot later once I'm back home. Even if the vertex count doesn't match it should be possible to reconstruct working uvs for the original model.

Alternatively you could just always replace the model with one that has two uv maps, and just make the material switch which uv set it's using. But I think unity has a limit to the number of uv maps a mesh supports, for future changes.

[past sable]

thats what im saying! should just switch the model out for the one with better UVs 👀

[tropic mist]

I'm saying specifically, uv1 with the og uv maps, and uv2 with better uvs

[past sable]

ahh yeah i gotchu

[raw forum]

Bless you, just updated a suit pack of mine with a new transparent outfit. its fire

[past sable]

@hot frigate @opal cairn found this explanation of how vertices are interpreted in Unity vs Blender. Basically, Unity always increases verts from what blender might show because it reads information multiple times for each vertex, as opposed to blender that sees that information as just 1 vertex. That is what is causing the count to change from 3904 to 8043 when looking at it in unity.

For the same reason, because you are changing vertex data by changing UVS, Unity interprets the vertex count doing its own thing, but you will get a different number than 8043 (the number of verts on the original player model). Consequently, any attempt to change uvs of the model or add a UVmap/channel to a model in unreal will not work since the program always looks to see if the model has the same vertex count as whatever file you are using whether it be another model, or uv coords in a txt file. And they will never be the same

[past sable]

https://discussions.unity.com/t/same-vertex-count-in-blender-different-vertex-count-in-unity/257221/3 link to where I found this

[past sable]

@dire falcon bit of a soft confirmation that you cannot apply different UVs to the player model via just a file that contains those UVs, as the vertex information for the model with better UVs will always be different than what the default model has. I know @tropic mist was working on a way to swap the model with one that uses a script to swap uv channels, which should still be possible, but still would require that the default player model be swapped with the model with the different UV sets

[tropic mist]

No I was planning on writing a Unity script to match up the new data to the old data and rewrite the uvs in a way that is correct for the old model, I'm back home now so going to work on that. As long as the new vertex count is equal or less to the original it should be possible

[past sable]

New vertex count is lower, let me know if u want me to send u my fbx with updated uvs

[tropic mist]

sure, I also got one from Mne

[hot frigate]

i bet if we just did this option he could add an option in the json (for better uvs)

[hot frigate]

?

[vapid portal]

Does More Suits work with More Company?

[short jasper]

yeah

[past sable]

whats the question lol

[flint falcon]

I just wanna know why you're drawing dongs

[past sable]

optimal layout

[flint falcon]

of course

[hot frigate]

same

[past sable]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[austere gyro]

Thanks for the reply but yeah that was a bit ago Haha

[tropic mist]

do you have an example texture to go along with these UVs?

Actually I can just export the uv map in blender as an example texture and uhh ... yeah it's not possible to swap only the UVs
Vertices get split in order to handle things like, hard edges on normals, or uv map seams. There's not going to be the same split vertices on the original as on the new one. You'd have to replace the model entirely to have new UVs which honestly should be fairly simple to do.

[past sable]

IM SAYIN!!! It was worth a shot tho i was learning unity as i went so i thought maybe i just was biting off more than i could chew but i think this confirms it

[hardy shale]

its time,

[worthy dock]

@obsidian robin #1174822763186364486 message this will help understand how to set up blender to paint correctly.

[obsidian robin]

Thank you, I'll give it a look soon

[hardy shale]

finally alpha textures,tysm.

[mighty axle]

Is this updated to the new version?

[zinc mauve]

Here's my custom skin if you guys want to use it.
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DumMello/DumMelloSuit/

[strong anchor]

hey @dire falcon i just put the fbx into substance painter but im having trouble importing the png onto it (first time using substance painter)

[dire falcon]

Good luck, I don't know substance painter very well either I forced my friend do to it for me.

[strong anchor]

nvm i figured it out, just imported it as a resource and changed the texture to that resource

[dire falcon]

I commend you for actually saying what you did to fix it for future generations 🫡

[strong anchor]

yup, but now its not letting me paint bc it says "mesh maps are not paintable" lmao

ill prob just install blender and try following the one tutorial if i can't figure this out

[strong anchor]

ok sorry im sending a lot but i figured out how to paint on the model and export it, i did this rq bc its 2am and i need to sleep but now that i kinda know what im doing i cant wait to have fun with this tmr >:) this thread has been a big help

[timber stump]

I love this so much can you send me the suit?

also to make the transparant suits work we just include the following in the json and make the texture file have an alpha channel?

{
    "_AlphaCutoffEnable": 1,
    "_ZTestGBuffer": 3,
    "_ALPHATEST_ON": "KEYWORD"
}

I am brand new to blender so I just don't know how people are painting the transparancy on the model.

[past sable]

@dire falcon not sure if you saw this so just wanted to @ you to keep you updated. If you ever wanted to swap the UV layout for the player character to make designing a texture more simple for people using the more suits mod, it looks like the only way would be to swap the playermodel with a different one with different UVs

[dire falcon]

Yeah I saw, decided to put it down to a lower priority now because I'm busy and it wouldn't be as simple as I hoped.

[past sable]

Gotcha. Makes sense!

[tropic mist]

It's as simple as bundling the model in an asset bundle, and then switching out the mesh and rebuilding the bones array on the skinned mesh renderer. Or just fix the bones once before bundling so you only have to switch the mesh at runtime.

[jaunty glade]

my mod is like broken. I keep reuploading it with a fixed file but it keeps going back to how it was before. like all of the folders just disappear and combine into the first file in my mod for my suits along with the read me, icon and manifest

[dire falcon]

It takes a few minutes for updates to appear on Thunderstore

make sure you're not just downloading the old version

[strong anchor]

how are you guys putting an image on the skins in Blender? i just followed the blender tutorial (i haven't used blender before) and i was able to paint on it and bake it fine. but now im wondering how to add images to it so i can put a face on the visor or whatever

[cursive lintel]

in blender if you select your brush, on the right hand side you can see "Blend" (should be defaulted to "Mix"), change that to "Erase Alpha" and you can paint away parts of the suit

[timber stump]

Sweet, I'll play with that more in a bit here thank you very much @cursive lintel

[strong anchor]

@cursive lintel im not sure if you could help, but im painting a skin rn and for some reason the brush is acting like its strength or hardness isn't at 100. like the color doesn't fill out the full cursor unless i click multiple times like its soft and feathered

but my brush strength is at 1 and im not finding any other options for the brush

nevermind i figured it out, it was the falloff!

[strong anchor]

@cursive lintel sorry i have more questions lol, 1- how can you add an image onto your skin, like a face on the visor? 2- is there a way i can paint specific body parts like for example the chest without the straps in front, or just single out the helmet, etc.?

[cursive lintel]

Watch this video: #1174822763186364486 message

[strong anchor]

ok tysm!

[strong anchor]

update after learning more

[wispy sun]

is it possible to make a skin transparent and emissive? ive been trying but cant get it to work..

[dire falcon]

I struggled with similar things myself

[wispy sun]

no prob, lmk if anything changes

[compact delta]

Is it easier to just make your own suit by redrawing on the stuff on photoshop and making it a model pack separately or would it be smarter to use blender? im fairly new and wanna try learning blender, i downloaded the very helpful video, but im just tryna think could this be done with something a little more familar?

[strong anchor]

hey i just started last night/today and it was fairly easy to learn blender

i did have some experience in photoshop/adobe illustrator so it kinda helped learn but nonetheless it wasn’t anything too complicated!

and you can get really clean stuff done in blender

[compact delta]

ight, ill have to give it a whirl sometime this week and figure it out. thanks for the advice!

[strong anchor]

np, good luck!

[sly hill]

Any body knows how to add custom suit when mod instal from thunderstore app? I dont have BepInEx folder

[dire falcon]

Open settings and there should be a link to your BepInEx folder

[sly hill]

ty

[fast dew]

wasnt there a youtube tutorial for this on how to make ur own suit

[dire falcon]

probably in pins

[fast dew]

cant find

just checked there

[dire falcon]

I can't find it now either

[fast dew]

i swear i saw one where they showed how to align a custom face even

[opal cairn]

ive managed something really dumb / funny with a edited version of more suits lmao

made it so users can input which shader the material should use and i found this

[opal cairn]

@dire falcon think its possible to have custom shaders in a assetbundle and load them ?

[dire falcon]

yeah that's easy enough

they need to be HDRP compatible I think though

[opal cairn]

yea i think my issue with not getting translucent to work is the fact that half the HDRP/Lit shader is missing

comparing unitys default HDRP/Lit to the one extracted from the game

[wind canopy]

Having issues with all suits that are all given a price tag becoming unlocked after re-opening a played save file

testing whether this is due to external suits or the mod itself

also there's no config file for this suit

ok it's definitely an issue with more suits

only using these two

and all available config files were set to
`{
"_NormalScale": "0.0",

"PRICE": "300"

}`
apart from glow and smile, glow already had a price and smile not there

also unrelated but it'd be neat to have a config option for the weight of one suit showing up as a randomly available purchase in the store, to make some suits more elusive

[dire falcon]

Okay time to take a look

[dire falcon]

This yours?
https://github.com/x753/Lethal-Company-More-Suits/pull/18/commits/a9d6bc2931ce50d45f3590191e74915168d69d60

[opal cairn]

yes

[dire falcon]

I'll accept it, was something I had been meaning to get around to eventually anyway

you wanna debug why we can't get emission and transparency working together next? :P

[opal cairn]

the external shader loading if possible (you said its easy) would be great

[opal cairn]

trust me i will figure it out

[fallen fulcrum]

here you go i guess, its literally just the uv with green color

{
    "_NormalScale": "0.0",
    "_AlphaCutoffEnable": 1,
    "_ZTestGBuffer": 3,
    "_ALPHATEST_ON": "KEYWORD",
    "_EmissiveColorMap": "G_Wireframe.png",
    "_UseEmissiveIntensity": 1.0,
    "_EmissiveIntensity": 10.0,
    "_EmissiveColor": "1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0",
    "_EMISSIVE_COLOR_MAP": "KEYWORD"
}```

@timber stump

[fallen fulcrum]

⠀

[opal cairn]

you can do that effect (all though its very fucked and ugly) by adding this to your config when more suits updates "SHADER": "Custom/Additive (Soft, Tintable)",

[opal cairn]

weird

setting _AlbedoAffectEmissive to 1 makes the skin not white

but the emissive texture isnt being used

[opal cairn]

im giving up on this for today lol

[dire falcon]

@tardy dragon Please test this, it may have a breaking change for Too Many Suits.

I added a config option Make Suits Fit on Rack that defaults to true, and it squishes the suits based on suit count.

[tardy dragon]

doesn't this make what I made obsolete?

And yeah that would break it, since I only allow 13 on the rack at once

oh and also how easy is it to actually select the right suit when they're all squished down?

[dire falcon]

that's why I only aim for a max of 20 suits

they're impossible to click if you have a ton

[pseudo siren]

theres a mod that adds suit pages

[tardy dragon]

lol yeah

Thats my mod

He's asking me to see if this breaks it

which it does, I already know it will

[dire falcon]

I'm aware, but this is meant to cover the case where you have less than 20 suits

[pseudo siren]

mb I just hopped in lol

[tardy dragon]

np

[tardy dragon]

well let me know the max you're doing or if its configurable by the user make sure I can get that value from my mod, that way I can change how my mod does it.

I can add support for this easily

[dire falcon]

[HarmonyPatch("PositionSuitsOnRack")]
            [HarmonyPrefix]
            static bool PositionSuitsOnRackPatch(ref StartOfRound __instance)
            {
                List<UnlockableSuit> suits = UnityEngine.Object.FindObjectsOfType<UnlockableSuit>().ToList<UnlockableSuit>();
                suits = suits.OrderBy(suit => suit.syncedSuitID.Value).ToList();
                int index = 0;
                foreach (UnlockableSuit suit in suits)
                {
                    AutoParentToShip component = suit.gameObject.GetComponent<AutoParentToShip>();
                    component.overrideOffset = true;

                    float offsetModifier = 0.18f;
                    if (MakeSuitsFitOnRack && suits.Count > 13)
                    {
                        offsetModifier = offsetModifier / (Math.Min(suits.Count, 20) / 12f); // squish the suits together to make them all fit
                    }

                    component.positionOffset = new Vector3(-2.45f, 2.75f, -8.41f) + __instance.rightmostSuitPosition.forward * offsetModifier * (float)index;
                    component.rotationOffset = new Vector3(0f, 90f, 0f);

                    index++;
                }

                return false; // don't run the original
            }

I don't know what decides which prefix runs first, but if yours does and returns false I believe mine won't be ran

[pseudo siren]

been tryhing to make a custom suit using lethal preview/gimp, just can't get the custom mask to line up right at all and the texture overall is just a big pain in the arse to work with

im sure thats a common issue tho

[tardy dragon]

I have a postfix

not a prefix

I wait until yours is finished doing its thing

then do my own

[dire falcon]

hmm, will the postfix run at all?

[tardy dragon]

its been fine this whole time

so it should run

[dire falcon]

makes sense to me

[tardy dragon]

it gets called after the original one is returned, which is when you do return false;

[dire falcon]

so yeah I'll release this when you've made sure your mod doesn't break from it

[tardy dragon]

is the max suit count being squished 20?

[dire falcon]

It squishes the suits if there are over 13, to a maximum squish factor of fitting every suit on the rack at 20 suits.

Which means any suit past 20 will be off the rack.

[tardy dragon]

Alright

[dire falcon]

so I'm allowing space for up to 7 new suits

[tardy dragon]

and is the variable for if this is enabled public?

[dire falcon]

public static bool MakeSuitsFitOnRack;

it's a config option

[tardy dragon]

so they can change the max suits value?

to like 400 for example

[fast dew]

why would you do this though

too many suits is like the perfect solution

[dire falcon]

woops copied the wrong variable

it's MakeSuitsFitOnRack

[dire falcon]

my group has 15 suits

[tardy dragon]

Okay sounds good, ill check if thats enabled and then change the max that can fit on a page to 20

[dire falcon]

we don't want to change pages just to access 2 suits

[fast dew]

can you atleast make it a config setting then

[dire falcon]

it is

[fast dew]

ok good

[timber stump]

honestly it'd be nice to maybe lessen the amount on the rack so it spaces them out a bit more

with too many suits that'd be nice

Since it seems people want either way, maybe make a config for it?

[dire falcon]

I think you could also just turn MakeSuitsFitOnRack off in my mod and add a config for suits per page to your mod

let people decide how squished they want them to be

[tardy dragon]

ehh its probably easier to derive the settings from More Suits

and better for the user

they only have to modify one config

[dire falcon]

you'll run into problems actually if you try what you said

[wraith marsh]

you guys figure out the suit sync issues? 🙂

[dire falcon]

my mod starts squishing suits at 14 up to 20

I fixed the price / save bug in mine

[trail cargo]

Is there a way to preview suits in-game alone?

[pseudo siren]

you can get a third person camera mod or the mirror mod

[trail cargo]

I tried using a freecam but your character model is rendered in low poly

[dire falcon]

if you need this to test here you go

[pseudo siren]

or you can use lethalpreview to preview a suit

https://callmemonamiral.itch.io/lethal-company-skin-preview-tool @trail cargo

[tardy dragon]

I mean if its enabled then I just make the max suits on each rack 20, if it goes over or under 20 there will just be another page with another 20 suits, or a single page with under 20 suits.

[dire falcon]

There's a mirror mod too that looked cool

[trail cargo]

How accurate is this to the game? i'm just trying to see if some details would be legible in-game

[dire falcon]

The default would become squished for your mod though, which I doubt is what people want if they're downloading something to give them pages.

[pseudo siren]

its accurate, it uses the same lighting

[trail cargo]

alright, i'll give it a try

thanks

[dire falcon]

I think it'd be best to just disable my option so it doesn't squish, and later implement the same thing if you want to let your users choose how many suits per page they get.

[wraith marsh]

yall should just combine your mods and make 1 mod with configs, that would be sick

[pseudo siren]

sorry anyone know how I can fix this?

[wraith marsh]

"AllTheSuits"

[dire falcon]

I want to leave it up to the user to download whatever mod expands the rack in whatever way they want. Some people might want pages, others might want to do it through the terminal.

[wraith marsh]

yeah i guess youre right. I didnt know people actually used the terminal for suits though lol

[tardy dragon]

@dire falcon Ima need like

40 suits

https://verity.femboy.services/free/vayf43w3.mp4

ion think its working gang

[opal cairn]

[tardy dragon]

@dire falcon I don't think ur mod is squishing them

[dire falcon]

If you're post fixing the same method it might just override it

so were they compatible as is before you changed anything?

[tardy dragon]

Oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have to actually copy the exact same system over

https://verity.femboy.services/free/g9y3eyfe.mp4

works

[wraith marsh]

looks beautiful

hopefully they sync :/

[tardy dragon]

@dire falcon all done you can release urs now

I have a working update

[dire falcon]

Okey dokey I'll upload in like 30

[tardy dragon]

ping me when done

[karmic mesa]

all things considered I don't think I'm not sure I need to update the skin list (I honestly just can't be bothered )

this seems like it solves the issue that I even created the list for - proper previews

added it to the top of the skin list in case someone stumbles onto it

thank you marbles

[dire falcon]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/x753/More_Suits/

More Suits v1.4.0

[tardy dragon]

done

[wraith marsh]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/darkstar/More_Suits/ wtf lol

darkstar

bad boy

crap, i installed the updates from both of you guys and i cant move my character lol

[tardy dragon]

🤨 huh

[wraith marsh]

i did install the new suit saver too, hold on

yeh im stuck in place lol and i dont see your pages @tardy dragon

[tardy dragon]

what in the world??

[wraith marsh]

found the problem

lethal expansion isnt working with it now

[dire falcon]

uh oh

[tardy dragon]

Whats that?

and is it my mod specifically or more suits?

[wraith marsh]

ill test real quick

[burnt vigil]

It's strange that mod, it's cool, but it gives more problems than solutinos

[tardy dragon]

Lethal Expansion?

[burnt vigil]

Lethal Expansion gives a lot of config options in the game, In addition to some changes to the SDK within the game to add new utilities, but many desyncs occur within this

also affecting the HUD

[wraith marsh]

still does it without "TooManySuits"

[dire falcon]

They get squished but they'll still go off the rack if you have more than 20

[wraith marsh]

no i mean, i cant move still

[dire falcon]

uh oh

and you can confirm going back to the previous version of More Suits fixes it?

[wraith marsh]

i can try

[burnt vigil]

The SuitSaver, TooManySuits and MoreSuits works perfectly now 👍

[wraith marsh]

[Error : Unity Log] MissingFieldException: Field not found: bool MoreSuits.MoreSuitsMod.MakeSuitsFitOnRack Due to: Could not find field in class
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent()
TooManySuits.Plugin:Awake()
UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type)
BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:Start()
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipelineAsset:OnEnable()

should i downgrade both mods to see?

i tried just the old MoreSuits and im having the problem still, no worries i will delete lethal expansion lol

[dire falcon]

test just More_Suits 1.3.2 and LethalExpansion

[wraith marsh]

ok 1 min

yep 1.3.2 works fine

[dire falcon]

now upgrade to 1.4.0

and send me your player.log

[wraith marsh]

seems to be working now wtf

i can move again

[dire falcon]

😵‍💫

[wraith marsh]

only thing different was i deleted the config for lethal expansion

and i deleted the modules from the lethal expansion

the custom moons

yeah everything is good now with TooManySuits as well

ok everything is back to normal, i just havent added back the custom moons and im not planning on it

[pseudo siren]

first suit in progress

getting the hang of it

[tardy dragon]

How'd you get the players model in unity? Mine either has missing scripts or missing materials

[pseudo siren]

this is blender

[tardy dragon]

Oh

🧠

[pseudo siren]

im using it to edit the texture file then bake it for the game off the tutorial in pinned

[trail cargo]

what's the lowest emissive intensity number? I'm trying to make a faint glow in the dark suit

[pseudo siren]

does anyone know how to properly bake the enhanced model onto the normal model? the YT video provided isnt great and the textures look all messed up on the OG model

[fallen fulcrum]

after using that shader, it doesn't look like a bunch of ants anymore 🎉

[opal cairn]

nice

[worthy dock]

that's wicked

[opal cairn]

i just submited changes to allow user made shaders

so shit is about to get wild

[fallen fulcrum]

is there a list of what shader we can use other than Custom/Additive (Soft, Tintable)

[opal cairn]

i used asset ripper to figure out what shaders are packaged with the game

the only other "Custom" one is Custom/LightningBoltShaderMesh

[dire falcon]

oh Tech instead of custom shaders why not load custom materials?

it's the same amount of work but easier to work with

[opal cairn]

or here me out

both

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-meme-markiplier-movie-thiccbraintime-gif-19517627

[dire falcon]

yeah but one's ugly code-wise :P

[opal cairn]

😦

[dire falcon]

writing materials at runtime isn't something people should do

they'll end up spending more time debugging keywords and passes that they should've just made the material in unity

[opal cairn]

that is very true

lets see if my dumbass can make this work

[dire falcon]

I believe it's a single line of code

well, in a loop

find each .matbundle in the moresuits folder, instantiate as material and assign to newSuit.material

[opal cairn]

ike 3 lines

like*

[karmic mesa]

send?

looks clean

[wraith marsh]

@dire falcon do you have any idea why my one friend cant see glowing suits? hes the only one that cant, and he has the same files as everybody else

we cant figure it out

[dire falcon]

That sounds odd. Are they the host?

[wraith marsh]

no i am the hose

host

[dire falcon]

Make them do a fresh install of their BepInEx folder, it could be a config or old version

[wraith marsh]

i have had him delete all of his stuff and copy min exactly but still

[opal cairn]

this suit is CLEANNNN

[wraith marsh]

hes the only one out of the whole group that has this problem too

[dire falcon]

you absolutely sure he didn't just copy the plugins folder and not copy configs?

[wraith marsh]

yes 100%

[dire falcon]

Have him send a log file I guess

AppData\LocalLow\ZeekerssRBLX\Lethal Company

player.log

[wraith marsh]

could it be a vcredist issue?

[dire falcon]

If so that'd be a surprise to me if everything else works

[wraith marsh]

yeh weird, ill get the log

[opal cairn]

@dire falcon https://github.com/x753/Lethal-Company-More-Suits/pull/22 better?

[fallen fulcrum]

same one as this #1174822763186364486 message, but with this json instead

{
    "SHADER": "Custom/Additive (Soft, Tintable)",
    "_MainTex": "G_Wireframe.png"
}```

@karmic mesa

[karmic mesa]

thx

king 👑

[forest radish]

how can i add custom skins to the more suits mod using r2modman?

[fast dew]

how do i get the suit to go back to the way it was before with too many suits

this is so compact and annoying

so many suits in such a tight space ew

[opal tide]

ask in the TooManySuits page since that issue seems more central to that mod

[opal tide]

go to the more suits page I am pretty sure there is a guide on it

unless you mean like download ones other people made in which case just download the mods through r2modman and they should get added provided you also have moresuits installed

[fast dew]

think its not actually

its because of the new update in more suits

he said he was going to add a config option for it but i cant find it

[opal tide]

try seeing if it has generated a second config

also make sure you have run the game with the mod enabled as that will cause it to generate the config and hopefully include the changes

[fast dew]

ive run the game multiple times today

but every advanced suit has a config

so finding the config im looking for isnt easy

[opal tide]

are you using r2modman or manual installs?

[fast dew]

r2modman

tried to find it with config editor inbuilt to r2modman

[opal tide]

yes it should appear in there

[fast dew]

i found it

finally

its called 753_more_suits.cfg

[opal tide]

yes that is the mod makers name

[fast dew]

if i type more suits

it didnt show up

so yeah

this is the config option i wanted

solved ty

[opal tide]

no problem

[exotic halo]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Jester/Glowing_Skeleton_Suits/ just a recolor of skeleton

[runic ivy]

?

[wind canopy]

thanks

does latest update patch it?

[dire falcon]

yeah fixed in 1.4.0

[rugged wagon]

scuffedbob 0ff-centerpants

[dire falcon]

Do you have a mod that unlocks all suits by default?

[runic ivy]

I use lethalfashion, never had an issue before, now after the new update having issues

[dire falcon]

Yeah I'll have to make a compatibility patch

for now set your max suits to however main suits you have in the config

[sudden sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1169069074572116041/1184812471563845762/image.png?ex=658d5599&is=657ae099&hm=cce525f1bef42e8da8da8334b5d7b92772e8ca83baf32c83e75887b8faf9e09e&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1169069074572116041/1184812471895203930/image.png?ex=658d559a&is=657ae09a&hm=842a203106b53fc8ff68992af7edf70578711a38b6a08cbf17c08325191c4a4d&

i have the same issue as well, seems to be a conflict with lethalfashion i guess

[minor bramble]

^ same issue but I don't have lethal fashion or any other suits mod installed

[dire falcon]

should be fixed in 1.4.1

More Suits v1.4.1

[sudden sluice]

no more duplicate orange suits now, ty 👍

[opal cairn]

making transparent etc skins easier for everyone https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ViViKo/MoreMaterials/

[worthy dock]

Nice work on that, good solution!

[dire falcon]

next level modularity

[opal cairn]

[dire falcon]

@zenith wharf I deprecated your package, reupload it without the .dll file

[zenith wharf]

thought i removed it my bad

[dire falcon]

and make sure you add more suits as a dependency in the manifest

[zenith wharf]

it should be marked as a dependency in the new version? do i need to reupload it under a new name for it to change on the website?

[dire falcon]

no, under the same name so it updates the old package

[zenith wharf]

its updated on the website

the only version with the .dll is the old version (1.3.1)

i don't know how to remove that specific version from the downloads

[opal cairn]

you updated it wiht a older version number

[zenith wharf]

i recognised that and fixed it afterwards (i thought i could try to fix the version control because i initially uploaded it as v1.3.1 and it didn't make much sense)

[opal cairn]

as of 1.4.1 the dll is indeed removed

[zenith wharf]

i've decided to just roll with the punches so any changes to this pack will now just follow from 1.4.1

apologies for the inconvenience, i'm not the most experienced with thunderstore

[dire falcon]

It's alright it can be a little confusing

just remember that your version number can only go up

[zenith wharf]

👍 you got it

[stark topaz]

hi, how can i upload my mod suit to thunderstore? i simply just drag the folder but that doesnt seem to work

[zenith wharf]

you should turn the folder with all the files inside into a zip, then name the zip what you would like the mod to be called on thunderstore

if i'm correct it has to be only a .zip, not a .rar or .7z

[stark topaz]

ohh tysm !! :) i got it

[zenith wharf]

np!

[flint oasis]

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? I upload my mod to thunderstore but when i try to download, it shows me this

[dire falcon]

uh it might just take a few minutes to reach Thunderstore

[opal cairn]

why is this constantly a thing https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Aeclipse/EEM_SKINS/

copyt paste a bunch of suits they dont own into one mod instead of making a proper modpack

"Do whatever you want with this, they're not mine."

https://tenor.com/view/rage-broccoli-nuke-gachibrocc-gachi-gif-21547004

[stoic wren]

anyone know why all the suits turn into normal orange suits?

cant seem to figure out a correlation with any sort of incompatibility

[opal cairn]

are you on the latest version of More Suits?

[dire falcon]

Everyone needs the same files too, otherwise it might desync and show orange suits.

[timber stump]

I am so confused when I use "silly little company suits" it includes the !less-suits file to disable the default but itself loads a copy of those suits so I am hoping to figure out how to make just one set of those default suits spawn without just re-uploading their suits.

It seems that either I don't understand or the less suits file isn't working right. Most likely the former.

[dire falcon]

!less-suits.txt disables the suits that originally come with the mod, so the only suits left should be the ones from silly little company suits

[timber stump]

I will see if I was just being dumb and report back.

[dire falcon]

there's a config option that disables the !less-suits.txt check, make sure that's not on if you're seeing duplicates

[timber stump]

Okay I just confirmed i am not actually being dumb. When you load more suits and "silly little company suits" it doubles up the default ones even though they have a !less-suits.txt and duplicates of the defaults. I have the config set to false so it shouldn't be happening if I understand everything correctly? @dire falcon

[dire falcon]

I'll take a look and see what's up

@timber stump it's working as intended for me, could you post a screenshot of your /plugins folder?

[timber stump]

it's a bit of a mess at the moment but yes 1 sec

@dire falcon

[dire falcon]

It's possible another suit mod you downloaded has the .dll in it

you can either search through them one by one to find out which does, or get a tool like https://www.voidtools.com/ to search for "MoreSuits.dll" directly

[timber stump]

Possibly? I know the only mod that causes this behavior is the silly little company one. I had originally made this profile partially to figure out why I had duplicate suits. So I had been troubleshooting as i go along. I didn't think to look for the dll though. What would that do?

The only moresuits.dll files i have are the one in more suits and one in woogie suits that is disabled (but did cause this same behavior when enabled).

@dire falcon

I'll try uninstalling entirely then seeing if somehow it's the fact that that file is there despite being disabled with .old

That was not it, still doubles up.

I'll try a new profile with just the two mods.

Interesting, when it's just those two (and too many suits) it still works. I have no clue how this is happening then. Do you have any thoughts? for now I'll probably just keep them disabled and try to troubleshoot more later if you don't know what could cause it.

[dire falcon]

I'm almost positive there's another mod in there with a second MoreSuits.dll

[timber stump]

I'll search manually maybe it somehow missed it

[dire falcon]

if you used Everything it should've found it

[timber stump]

I just searched the folder for "MoreSuits.dll" and it came up with the two I mentioned above and then I troubleshooted and found that wasn't it

[dire falcon]

Windows search kinda sucks sometimes, you might find something manually then

[timber stump]

That's what I was thinking, and it's faster than re-loading the game a bunch or learning that indexing tool I need to play with later.

the dll would be in the base folder yeah no need to dig into the moresuits subfolder yeah?

[dire falcon]

most likely, but you never know with some people

[timber stump]

I've found mods that have the !less-suits.txt that don't need them but I doubt that's it

okay I finished manually searching, the only MoreSuits.dll is yours

should I just send you a code for this pack? It's just suits and one weird mod I made for my buddies that changes the posters.

[dire falcon]

I'll be honest I don't really have time to debug incompatibilities with mods I didn't make, if you figure out the exact mod that its causing the issue I'll take a look though.

[timber stump]

shoot, the only one I can think of was the one causing the issue when turned on. My easiest solution I think is to just make another re-uploaded mod and credit them.

[vestal sand]

Is there a PlayerTexture.png with a transparent BG? Want to modify the suit, but it also uses black as part of its color

[opal cairn]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ViViKo/RaymanSuit/

[vestal sand]

Not that transparent ;;;;

[timber stump]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ViViKo/ViViKoCosmetics/
@vestal sand The clean black suit removes the tanks with transparancy

[exotic halo]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Crab_imitation/JollySuits/ these ones also have transparent suits

[autumn topaz]

Im done with my first suit, did someone say LidlCompany?
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LucydDemon/Lidl_Company_Suit/

[opal tide]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Bren/More_Suits/

Another rip off to be removed

the github link still leads to x753's page as well

[vast nest]

is making animated clothing (like as a gif) possible?

[dire falcon]

You'd have to write a custom shader and material in Unity

[vast nest]

ah okie

[dire falcon]

@opal cairn if you're familiar with flipbook shaders that's a pretty good custom material you could set up for people

although you'd be using a single texture split into X for each frame, so if you want 4 frames you either sacrifice 3/4 of your resolution or quadruple the texture size

[opal cairn]

already one of my plans

[opal cairn]

just a example but idk if i should require the people to use a custom properly to input horz & vert frames or figure that out in the shader itself

[opal cairn]

@dire falcon

[vast nest]

yoo that's sick

https://tenor.com/view/moonwalk-easy-mario-gif-13095393

[opal cairn]

someone please make that

[vast nest]

the mario star?

I'd be willing to try

[opal cairn]

gonna update MoreMaterials in a few mins

[vast nest]

I think I should have a template gif for star mario somewhere

found it

[opal cairn]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ViViKo/MoreMaterials/ updated

included example in the readme

[vast nest]

ah

so basically it just uses specific areas of a big image?

[vast nest]

wait so does the suit size matter when making it

[dire falcon]

yeah the game can only load so many 4k textures without slowing or crashing

so try to keep it default size where possible

[fallen fulcrum]

hey, was wondering if something like this is possible

[dire falcon]

yeah, you'll have to make a material for it in Unity and export it in a bundle like MoreMaterials does

[glass viper]

Hi hi, I've been trying to upload my own suit mod for a few days now but I don't know what I am doing wrong? I'd like some help, if possible.

I already have my suits and I thought I did everything right, but SOMETHING must be wrong.

[fallen fulcrum]

oof, i know nothing about unity

i guess i'll just wait for someone to make that material

@glass viper, is your file look like this? #1174822763186364486 message

[dire falcon]

this is an example of a custom suit package

[vast nest]

dude that would actually be such a cool material

reminds me of this guy

[vast nest]

ok so which direction does the material scroll through the textures?

is it random or does it follow a path?

[opal cairn]

Top left to bottom right

[vast nest]

cool

I figured it out

decided not to do the NES and did galaxy bc it looks better

[worthy dock]

poggers

[vast nest]

this makes me want to make a real star item

unfortunately I'm not too good at programming yet

[opal cairn]

cooler version of my animated skin lmfao

good shit

[vast nest]

ty

I just used transparency so it still looks like the original suit but with a powerup lol

[wise plover]

idk if anyone's done this but i really cleanly extracted the original suit texture without any color and made a template. you just fill tool the color layer

without vs with texture

and for photoshop non-havers, this should work in paint.net or gimp or whatever. the attached images are sorted bottom layer to top layer respectively, "diff subtract.png" should have a subtract blend mode (doesn't exist in paint.net, but difference works for most colors), "diff add.png" should have an add blend mode (aka linear dodge in photoshop, addition in gimp, additive in paint.net)

if you use this template and feel like crediting (not necessary but appreciated), credit me as brie-r

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/nona/Nona_Suits/
it's in use here. ok im done spamming

[timber stump]

This gets me so excited. I didn't realize the more materials mod made this possible thank you so much for your hard work.

[opal cairn]

i got bored

[vast nest]

What the

He got ingulfed

[fading jacinth]

minecraft creeper aw man

[haughty bough]

guys i created a skin but my face wasnt showing in the game, like just give up at this point

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-daddy-gif-5368681

[opaque oak]

Got turned into a victorian era subway bathroom floor

[hardy sundial]

IDK if this has been asked or not, but can you make an option in the config to have all custom suits auto-unlocked?

Or are they already?

[dire falcon]

I suppose I should do that. They're unlocked by default unless you manually set a price though.

[hardy sundial]

Paint 3D fill tool overrides the texture
That's what I've been using

Just copying and editing the main suit

This is a super cool mod

[timber stump]

Is it possible for you to add some way to allow for subfolders in the moresuits folder of a mod made for more suits? The intent would be to organize mods with a large number of suits.

[chilly pond]

Does anyone know why even with all dependency's installed, the tanks still show up in this mod?

[timber stump]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ViViKo/ViViKoCosmetics/

Try that version, the same suits are in there.

[chilly pond]

No dice

Still has the tanks

[timber stump]

No clue then, this is the place to find out though.

[chilly pond]

Figured it out, You NEED the individual one too, tho it's not listed as a dependency

[opaque oak]

@opal cairn Seems ya missed a step in your manifest file

[opal cairn]

I see

Fml

Rushed update I guess

Time to fix

[opaque oak]

The joys of "Finally, it's done! Time to get this out quick!" brain mush

[opal cairn]

wait

both my mods have it

hmm

ok yea i wasnt going crazy my mods are fine

[opaque oak]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ViViKo/CleanSuitColors/

Is the cleansuit model built into this one then?

[opal cairn]

It's a material from my more materials mod

And just textures with the tank cleared out

[hardy cairn]

Hello friends, I'm using the mod and for some reason glow suits aren't working for some of my friends.

took a screenshot, same suit, different POV

does anyone know what could be the cause, and how to fix? ty!

(we're using the same files)

[dire falcon]

Are you absolutely sure you're using the same, unmodified files?

[sacred robin]

^ I have noticed occasional issues where the suits that we wear don't sync properly, but rehosting usually fixes it. Happens pretty randomly, we typically notice as soon as we start and then rehost to fix right away

[dire falcon]

If it happens again try to get a log file from whoever isn't seeing something.

[opal cairn]

moonjuice 👀

[sacred robin]

techy

fancy seein you here

[opal cairn]

same

[sacred robin]

i've been dabbling in lc modding, still a noob and only made a fix that adds a single line of code lol

but my roommate got doom working on the terminal, gonna be collabing with him on some bigger stuff

[opal cairn]

nice

[hardy sundial]

DDPAT camouflage (I know it's prolly already been done)

[hardy cairn]

100%

cuz I'm sharing the BepInEx folder 😭

[wraith marsh]

We had the same issue with the suits

Finally fixed it

Using bepinex .21, more suits, and suit saver only.

And then the default config for more suits

Not using "TooManySuits"

So now everybody sees the glowing and all the suits sync fine for us. Also used the material thing from Viviko.

And only like 20 suits in total too

[proud violet]

if i join a lobby and theres a bunch default suits it just means i dont have the specific suit addon mod that the host has installed right

[hardy cairn]

do u think it could be this?

cuz I'm using

[wraith marsh]

im not sure but after i quit using it, i havent had the issues anymore

[opal cairn]

@dire falcon suit picker like the emote wheel type shit 🤯

[pseudo siren]

@opal cairn when I add suits for more materials do I put them in that moresuits folder?

tried adding a custom suit w json and it isnt working

[hardy sundial]

For me I just added a 2048x2048 pixel .png file where the other suit png files are and it worked fine

[uneven pollen]

Whenever I bake my textures I get weird spots like this. Is this a alignment issue, or did I mess up a setting for the baking process?

[opaque oak]

Do you think it'd be possible to have support for custom suit models? @dire falcon

[fallen fulcrum]

how do i export this so i can use it with more suits?

i dont see an option to export as .matbundle

[opal cairn]

First make sure you have the asset bundle browser

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/AssetBundles-Browser.html

Once you got that done

Click the material and in the bottom right it will say something about asset bundles. That's where you name it and give it a extension

[fallen fulcrum]

done

[fallen fulcrum]

this?

[dire falcon]

I still don't think it'd fit well into this.

[opal cairn]

Yes click the first none and click new and name it something

Then click the second none and click new and put .matbundle

[fallen fulcrum]

like this?

[opal cairn]

Exactly

And you need to build the bundle

Top middle ish area should say window. Click that then click asset bundle browser and then click build

[fallen fulcrum]

ayy

[worthy dock]

nice work

[opal cairn]

Nice

[timber stump]

Holy heck that's neat

be sure to publish that one

[opal cairn]

Makes me wanna make more materials

[hardy sundial]

All the normally orange suit parts are transparent

So you can pass your own pattern behind it

Oh yeah, and I made the tanks olive green

I made a few camos with it

[nimble zenith]

is there any reason tree_camoflage or Light Blue don't work? (apologies if it's the wrong place to ask)

[dire falcon]

are they png files?

[nimble zenith]

yep

the tree camoflage is a straight download off the image above (apologie if they didn't want that i'm honesty trying anything to work at this point)

as proof

[dire falcon]

I would try opening it in an image editor and saving it yourself

also, make sure you're actually in the right folder

what's the folder path?

[nimble zenith]

i found out i had 2 so i'm not sure which one should be working, i put the images in both folders to anyway

[dire falcon]

if you're using r2modman to launch modded, neither of those are right :P

[nimble zenith]

oh, where would they be, i can't find a way to open specific files

[dire falcon]

replace cache in the 2nd path with the name of your mod profile

I think r2modman has a button in settings that opens your plugin folder too

[nimble zenith]

in the same folder as "cache" there was "profiles" that i completely missed

and it has them in there

[dire falcon]

that's the one

[nimble zenith]

thank you so much

[hardy sundial]

I've got no problem with it
Consider anything I send here yours for the taking unless I say otherwise

[fallen fulcrum]

tenor.com

[hardy sundial]

Question: why are the texture layouts different between the two models?

Can I not just use the OG model and draw on it?

Also does Blender have a colour picker in the texture paint mode?

[opaque oak]

Hmm, would ya know how someone else could add their own support then to work with moresuits?

[wispy sun]

that's the point of the new model, to make the texture easier to edit by having the uvs placed in spots that make sense

its hard to edit from the texture when everything is everywhere

[wispy sun]

there should be, it'll pop out when you change the color and look like this

[hardy sundial]

Thanks

[dire falcon]

Everyone uses a different way of selecting custom models so custom suits should be implemented within the model replacement mod as well. They can take code from More_Suits if they want but it's a simple texture load and swap so it should be easy enough to implement it with the rack / however they want.

[hardy sundial]

My PC just crashes while baking
Is my PC just bad or am I missing something?

Does my texture not showing up in layout have something to do with it?

[wispy sun]

hmm, press z and select material

it should show if your textures are working

[hardy sundial]

I can only see it in the Texture Paint tab

This is a simple one I made to better differentiate different areas

I realised I had my bake wrong
But when I repaired them it still ended up crashing the app

Not my PC this time though

[wispy sun]

are you comfortable with trying to fix this in vc with me?

[hardy sundial]

I would prefer not to

[wispy sun]

no prob

umm lets see if the materials are properly applied

one sec

[hardy sundial]

K

[wispy sun]

does your material tab look like this

with "tank" being your texture

[wispy sun]

ah

[hardy sundial]

How do I find "tank"?

[wispy sun]

so press the yellow dot next to untitled and click image texture

[hardy sundial]

Oh

[wispy sun]

then there should be an image drop down button and then click your texture

[hardy sundial]

Oh, here I go

Thanks

[wispy sun]

no prob, lmk if you need anymore help

[hardy sundial]

👍

[hardy sundial]

Why do both of my models have this exact same page?

Isn't the OG model supposed to have a separate image?

When I delete it from the OG it deletes it from both

[wispy sun]

so make sure you dont have both models selected, and all you want to do is make a new texture for the og model being 2048x2048

[hardy sundial]

I don't have both selected
But they both end up at this material

[wispy sun]

if you are still having trouble with this you can send me your .blend file and i can try and get it set up for you

[hardy sundial]

That would be nice

Maybe I can look at it after and make more sense of it then 😆

This is like one of my first times messing around with Blender

Sorry

[wispy sun]

its no problem, its a hard tool to learn

ah, they where sharing the same material

im just gonna test bake and see if it all works now :]

[hardy sundial]

Ohh OK that makes sense

Yeah I could tell they were using the same mat. but I couldn't figure out how to fix it

I just found the option

[wispy sun]

ok, so i was able to get it to bake correctly but the models arnt aligned enough so im just going to fix that and it ill send it back over

and just so you know the baking isnt always perfect (from my testing) as the models are slighting off from each other

[hardy sundial]

OK

Thanks

[wispy sun]

here you go!!

enjoy makin some cool suits!!

[hardy sundial]

Thanks :)

This means a lot

[wispy sun]

its no problem at all

I'm always willing to help out and support

[stuck shadow]

question where are people finding all of the models and textures

wanted to dable in it a bit since I atleast know myself some blender knowledge

[wispy sun]

so the models can be downloaded here

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and you can get some textures to mess around with by downloading the more suits mod onto your PC and just grabbing the textures in the files

[hardy sundial]

So my PC/app still keeps crashing
Do you think my PC's CPU just isn't cut out for this or am I still doing something wrong?
Could it have something to do with my running the Steam version of Blender?

[wispy sun]

hm, it wasn't much trouble for me so I think it might be your cpu

just to make sure, you clicked the new model and then Ctrl clicked the old one before baking?

so that they where both selected with the new model being the first one selected

[hardy sundial]

It is

I just tried it on the better PC and it worked fine

Albeit with artefacts

[wispy sun]

yeah, that's from the models not being perfectly identical

[hardy sundial]

Too bad

I can live with it

Shouldn't be too difficult to clean up in Paint 3D or something

[wispy sun]

I usually fix it by taking the image into krita or Photoshop and just coloring in the mistakes

[hardy sundial]

Yeah

Looks like I've got to get on our other PC to bake the textures when I'm ready to

Thanks again for your help

[dire falcon]

Your CPU is fine, sometimes software just breaks. Install a different version of blender, update some drivers, restart your computer, and things might just work fine.

[hardy sundial]

I'll verify integrity on Steam and try again

[opal cairn]

i gave up trying to add this a few days ago cuz i cant seem to fix the issue of the texture scale getting smaller/larger based on distanced to the player

[stuck shadow]

I mean I rock an i3 laptop and have for a while so your cpu not being able to take blender is somewhat crazy to me, also 753 is correct in softwares breaking, blender did that for me for like a week then stopped doing it

[hardy sundial]

Is it possible to import an image to here and drag it around?

[wispy sun]

I would recommend adding images through an image editor like krita, Photoshop, gimp, or csp

[hardy sundial]

I want the Mister Chief's mouth to spill off his visor and onto his helmet like in the original image

[fallen fulcrum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urUdMbO4E2c

[hardy sundial]

♥️

[hardy sundial]

Undoubtedly my finest work

[hardy sundial]

How do I make the brush have a sharp edge?

[cursive lintel]

@hardy sundial Select your brush and look for "falloff", there is a button you can press shown in this picture to make the brush "sharper"

you can also select the dropdown which says "Custom" and select "Constant"

[hardy sundial]

Thank you

[stuck shadow]

Mime (Wip? , thinking of what to add tbh)

[dull jacinth]

i want to be able to use emissions and normals even opacity. do you know what the limitations are for the shader meterial or how i would even go about that

[scenic sierra]

Whelp I tried to remake my fursona into the model design....

[dull jacinth]

My take on what i think the Employee Of The Month might look like at the end of the month

[worldly dune]

Can you publish it?

It'd love to add it to my collection if you could be so kind ^^

[scenic sierra]

Whoever was asking how to get images to project on. I got it working...

[hardy sundial]

Make the blood hand prints more spotty

I would love to use it

[dull jacinth]

Yeah ill clean it up and if I can figure it out ill definitely publish them

[dull jacinth]

Like less handprints or what? There's really only a couple. All the other stuff is just blood splatter. I plan to make 1 or 2 in-between clean and dirty suits as well from fresh clean suit to employee of the month

[hardy sundial]

Make so the hand prints aren't as solid
Like they dried and were starting to flake

[dull jacinth]

Ohhhh yah I can do that for sure. I'll probably do it after work. I'll try to get some published tonight if I'm able.

Any other changes or additions that might make it better?

I will be doing a version with decals and stuff under all the grime when I can come up new with decals and logos they would have

[hardy sundial]

I was going to suggest a less grimy version (you can barely tell there's orange under there 😆) but you said you were already gonna do that

I think the visor should be less clean

[dull jacinth]

Oh there isn't any orange lol the base of my suit is black

I could just swap it to the base suit from the game though

[hardy sundial]

Oh okay
I think it would be better with orange base

If it's too much trouble just forget it though

[hardy sundial]

Yeah I did too

I made MTN Dew

[dull jacinth]

Okay yeah thats easy to do i won't be off for another few hours but I'll post stuff in here later I can tag you if you'd like

[hardy sundial]

Please

And thanks :)

[worthy dock]

I have a video in this channel on how to do stencils in Blender if that's what you mean

still not pinned I guess

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[dull jacinth]

Pretty sure they are using substance painter not blender. Its planer projection its a method to project onto the mesh instead of the uv's

[worthy dock]

Ah understood

[dull jacinth]

didnt tone down the blood and dirt at all but switched the suits out for the og one well the straps and hoses and tanks are different but the base is super similiar

[dull jacinth]

Loving how Dirty and well worn its looking in game

[tardy dragon]

W suit

[scenic sierra]

So what all textures does it support. Is it only albedo or can we also replace normal map. Anything for metallic maps?

[scenic sierra]

yeah I'm using Substance Painter

[dull jacinth]

@scenic sierra from what I read on the more suits documentation you can use like all the maps but you have to convert them to json files or something, not entirely sure

Definitely everything except height maps it looks like, normals were bring weird for me.though so I haven't been using them, also hell yeah i was right about planar projection

[dire falcon]

It supports specifying additional textures as maps through the JSON file, but if you want anything more complicated or more than one extra map I recommend just building it as a material through Unity (which requires some setup)

[rigid mural]

i just used stencil brush

works well enough if you isolate the helmet glass

[silver mango]

So I have this but when i saved it as a png and put it in the game it looked all messed up. How to I fix that? Please help. 😭

[dull jacinth]

Thats not the right suit uv map

#1174822763186364486 message see the UV map on this one? Thats how it should look

[silver mango]

Do you know where i can download the right uv?

[dire falcon]

the correct UVs are on the original model

[silver mango]

Forgive me if this is a dumb question because im new to this, but is there a way to put that uv into blender?

[dire falcon]

https://youtu.be/pmsdI-xs8Pc
I believe this video covers baking to the correct UVs

[patent musk]

which one do i texture?

[silver mango]

I textured the colored model and then baked them together and it turned out great. (Shoutout to 753 for sending me the tutorial vid)

[patent musk]

alright thanks

i'll try later

[wide wren]

quick question what sections of the PNG file are for the face portion. I found one in the lower right but when i replace it its only a little square for the face and not the full face

[solemn depot]

Does anyone know what might have went wrong with my baking? I tried following the new model to old model video

and am i screwed or is this fixable

[patent musk]

my baking has defects too

[wispy sun]

try aligning the models better. go to layout, press z and click wire frame, zoom in and get those models aligned as much as possible

[solemn depot]

I think it's extrusion

#1174822763186364486 message

Found others with similar issues in here

It worked for me

[patent musk]

yeah think so, whats the extrusion target number?

its still a problem im not sure how to fix it

[solemn depot]

I set it to 3 as others have said 2/3 should work

It still gave me a few artifacts but they were minor things that I was able to fix in 2 minutes

[patent musk]

it doesnt let me paint over those artifacts

[patent musk]

I've figured out how, but there are some artifacts I can't find

[shrewd bronze]

Does the game actually use this normal that is included in More Suits? I know most suits just use _NormalScale 0.0 but im curious where the normal texture came from

[fallen fulcrum]

i think it just use normal from the game by default

unless custom normal is specified

[vast nest]

@opal cairn you think a metal material could be done?

I feel like that'd look cool

[opal cairn]

You can already make things look metallic

Without custom material

[vast nest]

true

[opaque oak]

Bit of a silly question, but does moresuits work client side?

Like, what happens if the host doesn't have it, but someone that joins em does?

What does the host see?

[scenic sierra]

Are we able to use custom normal maps? I don't want to wrinkle look for one of the ones I made. As I can make the custom normal myself in substance painter

[dire falcon]

host will get null refs and see orange suits

[vast nest]

making an enhanced luigi

I used this render for the face bc this render is hilarious to me

[meager rivet]

@dire falcon lobby does not restart when fired 😭

[dire falcon]

any evidence this is a More Suits problem?

[wraith marsh]

Not a more suits problem

[shrewd bronze]

99% sure i had this issue because of the compass mod. Remove that and it should work

[meager rivet]

nop

[wheat laurel]

problem not from moresuit. better every game u tested open console

maybe you have Latecompany/Shiplobby, that mod broken asf

[worthy dock]

so wild to me it's one of the most downloaded mods... two "competing" mods but only one actually works

[opaque oak]

Latecompany originally worked wether you were in orbit or already landed, while shiplobby was limited to just orbit

But then at some point LateCompany limited their own to only orbit as well, probably cause of how buggy it was when you tried to join when landed

[knotty cypress]

I'm having the strangest issue and idk why it is

When I run two clients on my pc and play LAN, both can see eachothers glow suits glow in the dark properly

But when I host a game online for a friend I can see his suit glow but he can't see mine glow

Using exact same modpack and r2modman code

And same suit

Why does it work in LAN but not online 😭

The only differences between the scenarios I can think of are that it's an online game Vs Lan, or that he has AMD GPU idk if that impacts it either

I'm guessing it's to do with online

Not using toomanysuits either

[knotty cypress]

I even imported the code into a new profile myself also to ensure we both had the exact same profile

And we both cleared the appdata game folder too didn't help

Not using latecompany or morecompany or any similar mods to those either

Never seems to work for weeks despite many different mod configurations

[meager rivet]

Shiplobby, that one works well for me.

[meager rivet]

This was if I'm not mistaken.

[wraith marsh]

Do you have TooManySuits mod?

[knotty cypress]

i tried with and without

[wraith marsh]

Ahh. I know I removed it when my buddy couldn't see the glowing suits

[knotty cypress]

and that fixed it?

[wraith marsh]

Also I added the material thing from Viviko

[knotty cypress]

yeah i have that

so its working for you fine then currently?

[wraith marsh]

Yeah it works fine for our group

[knotty cypress]

do you have a code you could share

so i can figure it out

for the modpack

[wraith marsh]

Everybody can see the glow and all the suits are in sync

[knotty cypress]

damn

[wraith marsh]

I also have suit saver

[knotty cypress]

yeah i tried with and without suitsaver

maybe another mod is causing problems

[wraith marsh]

I don't have a code because I do everything manually

[knotty cypress]

ah

[wraith marsh]

Do you have late company or ship lobby?

[knotty cypress]

did you change any of the configs away from default

nah i dont have them

[wraith marsh]

Nope just the default config from the latest of MoreSuits

[knotty cypress]

right

could you share the modlist?

[wraith marsh]

Yeah give me a few minutes

[knotty cypress]

like a screenshot of your plugins folder

thanks boss

[knotty cypress]

yoo insane thanks man

really appreciate it

[wraith marsh]

no problem! lol

[knotty cypress]

hope i can figure it out

[wraith marsh]

hope so too, this was annoying for my friend lol

[dire falcon]

I had this occur for my group for the first time today

no clue what could cause it either

[knotty cypress]

truly baffling

[wraith marsh]

are you using glow stick suits and the skeleton glow ones?

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SpookyDookies/Spooky_Dookies_Glowsuits/

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Norman/GlowStickSuits/

are you using these 2 together?

[dire falcon]

Even the base glow skeleton suit doesn't load emission sometimes, even without other suit mods installed.

[knotty cypress]

im only using spooky dookies glowsuits

[wraith marsh]

ahh ok just was curious

[timber snow]

Any idea why I can see suits when I host, but they don't appear when I join? My Bepin log throws this error:
(Partner and I have same mods, same load order, same versions)

[dire falcon]

Same config files? Same .png files in the moresuits folder?

Is it a new save file?

[timber snow]

Yeah, we ensured we were both using defaults. I tried reinstalling mods, reinstalling the game, and trying out new save files

Thought maybe it was the LateCompany mod, but disabling that had no effect

[dire falcon]

If you've tried all that out, I think all that's left is to try loading it up with just the MoreSuits mod, then add mods back until something breaks again.

[timber snow]

That's a good idea - will dabble with that and report back. Appreciate it!

[ebon grotto]

Can you disable default orange suit? At least so it doesn't show up on the rack.