More Suits v1.5.2

[fast dew]

if you wont can i have permission to upload it for personal use

[peak drift]

some people would prefer not having to do anything
so true

also, it wouldn't work. One mod can't install files in the folder of another, through r2mm/tmm

[fast dew]

wait so does r2modman not work with modpacks ?

[peak drift]

it does

how... is that related?

[dire falcon]

More Suits actually checks through the plugins folder for folders named moresuits, specifically so people can make their own packages and depend on it to load them

[peak drift]

oh nice. nvm then lol. retracted

[fast dew]

i missunderstood but it has been working for me so i was confused

[peak drift]

you want a package with shrek skin, I was saying another mod can't add skins to the moreskins directory, but modmaker says you can have multiple moreskins dirs and it'll find them

so, you can totally package it and upload and it'll work(with maker's permission)

[fast dew]

ah

[marsh light]

Seems to be fine for me, using the camera is pretty much how I'd percieve the skins on other players

[low ibex]

yo graelyth is a G

he used to do some nutters shit in VRChat so yeah he's got experience

[light spruce]

anyone can explain to me how i make my own suit and see it in front of me ?

[tawdry rose]

I assumed it would be a case of creating/editing a png of the suit you'd like and adding a JSON file to the advanced folder, but I can't see the suit in-game when I launch modded.

[dire falcon]

It should be that easy.

Create a folder called moresuits in BepInEx/plugins and put a .png file in it and you'll have a suit

[tawdry rose]

This is pretty much what I did, but the only suits on the rack are those in the MoreSuits folder (Skeleton, Slayer, Kirby, Luigi etc)

The CMD window does show an error when launching however:

C:/Users/Shia/AppData/Roaming/Thunderstore Mod Manager/DataFolder/LethalCompany/profiles/Default/BepInEx/plugins/x753-More_Suits/moresuits/!more-suits.txt
[Error  : Unity Log] Failed to read data for the AssetBundle 'C:\Users\Shia\AppData\Roaming\Thunderstore Mod Manager\DataFolder\LethalCompany\profiles\Default\BepInEx\plugins\x753-More_Suits\moresuits\!more-suits.txt'.
[Error  :    LC_API] Failed to load an assetbundle! Path: C:\Users\Shia\AppData\Roaming\Thunderstore Mod Manager\DataFolder\LethalCompany\profiles\Default\BepInEx\plugins\x753-More_Suits\moresuits\!more-suits.txt```

[dire falcon]

that error can be safely ignored I believe

[tawdry rose]

I thought so thx

[dire falcon]

can I see a screenshot of your moresuits folder?

[tawdry rose]

Can I DM? Can't post screenies here

[dire falcon]

@flint falcon I am requesting users to be able to post screenshots in #1169056298856362105

@tawdry rose your problem is that you're putting your files in the cache

the cache is not actually where your mods are

[tawdry rose]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-ventura-oh-my-i-forgot-gif-18512365

[dire falcon]

back out of the cache and go to your profile

[flint falcon]

I've switched on attachments for regular users

[tawdry rose]

I can help now.

Navigate to \Thunderstore Mod Manager\DataFolder\LethalCompany\profiles\Default\BepInEx\plugins\x753-More_Suits\moresuits, you should find all the suits the mod currently adds, including the Default suit.

I used the default.png as a base to create my own design. Use any image editing software (Photoshop, DaVinci, Paint) and edit it how you want.

Once done, save the completed PNG to the same folder above with whatever name you want to appear in-game.

The pinned message has more info on how to use Blender for more precision and to see the texture on an actual model.
https://youtu.be/pmsdI-xs8Pc

Hope that's accurate and helps

[light spruce]

thank you i'll save what you told me rn for later but the thing is with editing the png in paint i dont know which part is which its pretty confusing

[tawdry rose]

That video should help with that, seeing a 3D should be easier than painting blind onto a PNG file

[light spruce]

alright thank you

I was trying to find a video and I couldn't

[light spruce]

its kinda unclear where he got the 3d model from to put it on blender

[tawdry rose]

The download links are on the pinned message of this channel

There should be an original model and an enhanced UV model. Both FBX files ready to import into Blender

[light spruce]

oh alright yeah i saw them rn thanks

[bleak sinew]

OH My GOD THEY KILLED KENNY

i plan on making changes n stuff but i finally got it to show in game

[light spruce]

brother i'm struggling

[tawdry rose]

I've used Blender three times in my life, can't offer much help sorry

[light spruce]

yeah this is my first time using blender or anything 3d related

[bleak sinew]

i used blender for the first time yesterday , took me about 2-3 hours

im not good at drawing either so it didnt help

[plucky mason]

You guys will get the hand of it

Just keep trying

[light spruce]

im at this point rn

struggled to get to this progress

[bleak sinew]

👏

[light spruce]

ty

[bleak sinew]

the colors are so clean

[light spruce]

thanks but how can i put a logo on the torso

[bleak sinew]

howd you color it without messing up?? any tips?

[bleak sinew]

that im not sure of

[light spruce]

i colored the uv

[bleak sinew]

ohhh the png on the side?

[light spruce]

yeah

[bleak sinew]

makes sense

i just painted the 3d model which explains why mine looks bad lol

[light spruce]

yeah i tried that in the begining and it looked like ass lmfao

[marsh light]

You can create a stencil as a brush, upload the texture/image you want, then just position and paint over it. This video explains it pretty well imo: https://youtu.be/urUdMbO4E2c?si=-OD6SIT-nvsZ7a67&t=667

[light spruce]

alright thank you, but when im done with making the suit and all how do i export it to be part of the mod so i can use it in game

[marsh light]

You bake it, then there's an option to export the baked UV

If you follow the guide in the pinned messages here you should be sorted

[light spruce]

it doesnt say in the pinned message how to export and use it in the mod itself

[marsh light]

Have you baked it? It shows up as a finished UV map in the bottom left if you followed the steps correctly. From there you can click a button to export it and move it to the moresuits directory of the mod

[light spruce]

yeah im trying but its messing up the uv so im trying to fix it else i have to redo everything

[light spruce]

what file should i export it as

like what's the name

idk why its looking like that

[plucky mason]

@light spruce Turn extrusion to 2/3m

That worked for me

[light spruce]

where is that

and should i do it before or after the baking

[plucky mason]

before

[light spruce]

how can i undo baking lol

[plucky mason]

You just have to bake it again under a new image

[plucky mason]

also it's under baking --> selected to Active

[light spruce]

didnt work

[plucky mason]

You might have to play around with the value

Else you have to "extrude along normals" with the new model

@light spruce If your still having issues pass the new uv map
See if I can do anything about it

[light spruce]

alright how ccan i send you the uv i made

[plucky mason]

You got to save it and then send the image here on discord

I see your doing a different way for new uv maps
I use substance painter for that

[light spruce]

u mean like this or baked

unfortunately its baking it like that

[hardy shale]

Thats exactly what you want so it maps properly to the ingame model.

[light spruce]

so its supposed to do that?

[plucky mason]

Yeah

[hardy shale]

is it having colors bleed into other parts?

[plucky mason]

This is what I got

[light spruce]

its not supposed to have that many colors onto each others

[hardy shale]

hmmm

try separating the mesh (the airtanks and straps) in edit mode before baking
select a vert, ctrl+L , then P ,then hide the part

[glacial turret]

does anyone know if theres a download for the kirby suit that was posted a while back?

[light spruce]

yeah the more suits mod

[light spruce]

I think that's too advanced for me

But I don't need a JSON file for my uv file right

Because the other suits has it

[hardy shale]

no the json file is just there to edit/remove the normal & emissive texture.

the default normal texture is the wrinkley suit look so most people hide or make their own.

[light spruce]

ah alright

We did it boys

[plucky mason]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[plucky mason]

Speaking of that. How do I remove the normal in the json again?
I think that's the reason why bong bong face is mess up

[hardy shale]

just insert

"_NormalScale": "0.0",

[plucky mason]

oh

I guess that didn't work then
Some face image work while others don't

[hardy shale]

hmmm

here 1 sec

ok so this should use the emissive & normal texture, which is blank

hmm

your right

looks like there is another detail/normal texture

wait the face?

my b i miss read.

[hardy shale]

the face is misaligned because the game renders a low LOD (level of detail)model so the textures displace a little.

[plucky mason]

O

[bleak sinew]

yes its in the more suits mod along with i think 7 other suits? im not sure about the exact number

[plucky mason]

How do I stop it from displacing the texture

[hardy shale]

one solution would be to bake the texture on the games low level of detail model. but thats a little redundant.

another solution is for 753 to have the mod change image textures based on lod but .... augh

do we ever see the high detail model consistently ingame?

[dire falcon]

I was thinking LOD doesn't actually have any measurable performance impact and we could just get rid of it

someone would have to profile the game with / without LOD first to see if that's true though

[hardy shale]

so...

full crew

Bigger lobby ish

its...

ok

prob only an issue in ship.

[bleak sinew]

[plucky mason]

I guess their isn't a fix to this then
Probably have to add the face image on the OG model instead of the remake model idk..

[hardy shale]

Time to dig into the dlls to see why the Lod kicks in so early.

[dire falcon]

You probably won't find that in any DLLs, use Unity Explorer instead

[hardy shale]

ty.

[light spruce]

did your suit ended up working ?

[dire falcon]

@fast dew change !more-suits.txt to !less-suits, and update your readme (you don't need to move things into folders, my mod will load them as long as there's a folder named moresuits in your mod)

and !less-suits.txt signals to the original mod to not load the suits in the original folder

[fast dew]

oh okay ty

[fast dew]

do you mean rename !more-suits.txt to !less-suits.txt ?

a little confused

[dire falcon]

yes

[fast dew]

ok i see now !less-suits.txt on the bottom of your message lol

[bleak sinew]

?

[light spruce]

you said your suit was kinda janky and was asking about how to color it correctly

so im asking if it worked out with you

[bleak sinew]

oh yea i forgot abt that suit lol i started a new one and its way easier to do it the way you said

just need to the face and im done w it

[light spruce]

that's good to hear, show me the progress of it if u can

[bleak sinew]

alr

[light spruce]

i assume the mod manager updates the mods automatically

that's what it did for me

[fast dew]

i mean the mod i created update it on the website with the fixes (figured it out)

[bleak sinew]

its supposed to be a angry bird for my friend which is why its basically one color lol

[light spruce]

oh that idk

[light spruce]

nice its coming along

why dont you add like a different color belly just like the angry bird has

[bleak sinew]

was thinking abt that, thats what the 2 circles are supposed to be on his mask but its not that good

[light spruce]

yeah its not showing that much

maybe color them same color as the beak

[bleak sinew]

will do 👍

[hardy shale]

good news @plucky mason

the LOD issue is just with the camera mod

[plucky mason]

WHATTTT

LOL

Thank you. I guess I can't trust any camera mod now. lol

[marsh light]

Hey @dire falcon, I'm aware you have the option available to remove all suits from the original mod, but have you considered the possibility of being able to toggle which base skins are available? For instance, people playing my modpack use the Mario and Luigi skins often, but rarely use Smile, so an option to disable individual base skins to free up room for custom skins would be a welcome inclusion.

[dire falcon]

add the mario and luigi skin to your skin mod

then it'll still be enabled

[marsh light]

Are you fine with them being uploaded as standalones? That way it allows people to pick and choose what is available as a skin in the mod dependent on what they've included

[dire falcon]

yeah as long as it's dependent on More Skins that's fine

[marsh light]

Sound, I'll sort that out at some point in that case

Should I extend that out to every skin in the base mod with your permission?

[dire falcon]

Yup any of those should be fine

[lucid night]

Where I find the 3d models?

[plucky mason]

In pins

[lucid night]

thx

[dire falcon]

okay that ended up looking a bit spammier than what I thought you were going to do lol

you should probably make each of their icons a picture of the actual suit at least

[marsh light]

Yeah sorry if that wasn't clear. I can't think of another way that would allow users to disable individual skins without making a standalone for each one.

[marsh light]

And will do, this is just temporary so that the functionality is just out there. I'll use the renders of the suits other users have made most likely to keep it clear.

[dire falcon]

Generally this sort of thing would normally be done with a config file (if the mod supported it), which could be shared using R2modman's profile codes

[marsh light]

Another thing, I tried creating a standalone that includes !less-suits.txt on it's own in the moresuits folder but that doesn't seem to work. Does it have to be in the base directory of the actual mod?

Okay, it does work, but then ceases to work when you reintroduce another custom skin that doesn't have !less-suits.txt in it's directory

So with this setup, I'd only expect the two rightmost suits to appear, but that is not the case as SCP Foundation Suit doesn't contain !less-suits.txt. Weird.

Gonna deprecate all of those packages for now since they won't function as intended.

[dire falcon]

That's strange, I'll look into that.

I see my issue, there was a typo

I'm going to fix it but @marsh light keep the standalone suits deprecated. I'm going to add a config for disabling individual suits.

[marsh light]

Sounds good

[dire falcon]

Alright I've updated More Suits to v1.3.2, fixing a bug with !less-suits.txt and adding a config file to disable suits by name.

let's say you want several individual skins you found on Thunderstore, as well as Mario and Luigi from the original mod to be the only suits on your suit rack. You would go into the config and add the names of each suit besides Mario and Luigi from the original mod, then export your profile as a code.

Your friends can then import that code, and they'll have the same mods as you with the same config settings, meaning the suits you disabled are disabled for them as well.

[peak marsh]

Does only the host need to config the mods

[dire falcon]

Everyone in the lobby needs the same config.

[peak marsh]

🥺

Also when is fortnite jonesy suit being added

[agile valve]

Uh how tf do I get the Glow suit working? Only method I've found to work is just renaming it to another suit.

Like how do I add it separately?

[hardy shale]

it has a price in the json file,
either buy it in the store when it shows up or
remove the price so it appears on the rack by default.

[agile valve]

aight cool thx

[marsh light]

Great feature, works perfectly

[light spruce]

if i want to remove for example the minion suit and let's say skeleton how do i do that

do i just remove the png from the file ?

[little lark]

Does this work on a cracked ver of the game?

[marsh light]

You add Minion.png and Skeleton.png to the config file, separated by commas

[light spruce]

which one to be exact

[bleak sinew]

[tawdry rose]

No. Support the developer.

[plucky mason]

Hmm very odd copy and paste
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/trin/More_Suits/

[dire falcon]

Yeah I took it down since they didn't bother to modify the readme or anything

[still bloom]

i have tried extensively to make the mod work, i have bepinex 5.4.21
but the log states a warning that it's targeting version 5.4.22, despite evry single line of code saying it's 5.4.21 lol...

[plucky mason]

Don't use it @still bloom . It makes your model have low LOD

[still bloom]

do we have any other third person camera mod?

i am doing this for my girlfriend (she has motion sickness) 😭 i am actually gonna learn the library and code it ahah
(sorry for being offtopic))

[peak drift]

oof good jorb

all these peeps requiring something that isn't available through the manager are just pain

[still bloom]

yeah cringe

[plucky mason]

You either have to make more than one instance of the game or have a friend test it with you

[dire falcon]

The version shouldn't matter, it's just a recommendation based on what the mod was built with

[lucid night]

can someone turn this texture into the game's normal texture?

When I try it glitches

[plucky mason]

You need to convert the new uv map to the og one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmsdI-xs8Pc

[lucid night]

I've tried but coudn't do it

[hot frigate]

use higher extrustion

-Kycea (new name lol)

[hardy shale]

cage is gud too.

[lucid night]

tks

[bleak sinew]

feel like the red is too dark but idk

[plucky mason]

Looks fine to me

[bleak sinew]

Well it’s the official hexcode they use but it just looks bad

Maybe it’ll look better after it’s baked

[bleak sinew]

why does it look like this

i baked it like usual but half the face is on the back of the head

[plucky mason]

@bleak sinew That's because of the camera mod. It lowers the model LOD.

[bleak sinew]

Ohhh so it’s fine right?

[plucky mason]

Should be

[bleak sinew]

Damn I started changing my previous skin cause it looked janky lol

Ty tho

[fast dew]

did someone make a good gojo skin ?

[plucky mason]

Only slightly scuffed gojo skin
#1174822763186364486 message

[fast dew]

unlucky we need a good one

[light spruce]

Did it end up working with you?

[frank sky]

its not possible

[hot frigate]

👍

[bleak sinew]

Yea

[light spruce]

nice

[karmic mesa]

not checking this channel for 4 days will be my doom

[glass blaze]

how many damn suits do you have

[karmic mesa]

is for this

[glass blaze]

[bleak sinew]

You can take out the Kenny one it isn’t that good

I plan on redoing it today

[karmic mesa]

alright

[bleak sinew]

It’s just very sloppy cause I didn’t really know what I was doing lol

[light spruce]

what's that for

[glass blaze]

is for this

[fast dew]

i mean to some degree it is correctly looking clothes and his face propperly placed in the helmet

[karmic mesa]

I will not be able to update the suits for a while

My gpu fried the power supply cable

[exotic halo]

Don't ya have a phone lad? just use that simple as

[light spruce]

so he's going to update it with more suits?

also someone should make the red pyro from tf2 lol

[karmic mesa]

how should i do blender + photoshop on my phone lmao wdym

anyway plugged in the old gtx 650 maybe 50\50 runs photoshop well enough for me to get new suits into the doc

[zealous saddle]

yo guys, can someone explain how I can draw only on belts or only on air tanks in Blender? the texture map sucks, and I can't understand where the belts are on it. also when I use a brush to paint, the color spills onto other parts of the model (sorry if question is dumb, i've never retextured the models before)

[light spruce]

you can color it through the uv

[light spruce]

it should because im running a shitty ass lenovo

[zealous saddle]

can you please clarify how can i do that?

[turbid canopy]

select belt object with L

then go into texture paitn and click this button

then you'll only be able to paint on selected faces

[zealous saddle]

Thank you so much bro

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1135924585527775232.webp?size=48&name=elegantcheems&quality=lossless

[light spruce]

When u go to texture painting
On the left you'd have the uv of each part of the body u color it there

[marsh light]

Death Korps of Krieg suit from WH40K for all you shovel enthusiasts: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamClark/Death_Korps_Of_Krieg_Suit/

[plucky mason]

Great skin

[carmine estuary]

made an amazon employee uniform

[bleak sinew]

redoing kenny rn should hopefully be done in abt 40 mins

[lucid night]

I corrected it

it's my school uniform

[bleak sinew]

the eyes look very weird to me idk

the rest of the suit is done ive been spending like 10 mins on the eye size smh

[vagrant patrol]

that ModSync mod would honestly be great if it worked with the suits folder to sync up the pngs, would be nice since security was a worry for him, so pngs being relatively safe should be a plus

[worthy dock]

a suit CDN system 👀

such an idea would need a lot of moderation

re: the pinned post, can someone explain why exactly there's two separate models? Why is one model being used for painting and the other for the UV? is that only for some particular scenario? can I just paint on the OG model?

[vagrant patrol]

eh, if you host your own stuff it shouldn't be that bad

[bleak sinew]

probably ask the person who pinned it

[plucky mason]

You can paint on the OG model but people who like painting on the UV map have a easier time with the remade model

Plus I can easier place a image on the visor rather than on the OG UV map

[worthy dock]

Interesting, okay. So something about the other model's wrap makes it easier than the OG model

[plucky mason]

basically yeah

[worthy dock]

I appreciate the info, helps clarify my confusion

[opaque oak]

Yeah, the OG models UV is horrific

[visual totem]

is there a limit on how many suit mods you can use ?

[exotic halo]

Suit rack just keeps growing

[marsh light]

Not really, but functionally it's until the suits begin to cover the item charger

[visual totem]

ah so the racks expand itself

[marsh light]

The actual rack doesn't change, the suits just start floating in line with the others once the limit has been exceeded

[light spruce]

They look fine to me

[marsh light]

Reupload of your mod? https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SapphosMods/More_Suits/ @dire falcon

[dire falcon]

Took it down

[bleak sinew]

yea i messed w them for like 30 mins ill bake it now

[light spruce]

nice

[bleak sinew]

the og model supposed to look like this?

[plucky mason]

Yeah no

[bleak sinew]

damn

oh well ill fix it after school

[elfin jetty]

how do i use blender to make a suti? i was just painting my own texture on paint originally lol

[marsh light]

Check the pinned message: #1174822763186364486 message

[worthy dock]

@marsh light you seem to have experience with adding other images onto the suit, are you doing that in Blender or purely externally? My issue for instance is wanting to place an image onto the back of the tanks, and the way they unwrapped makes it a bit difficult. Wasn't sure if there was some way to place an image onto the model in 3D space and have it automatically project onto the UV.

[marsh light]

The best way of doing it is to create a stencil brush with your image imported, and scale and position it either on the UV or the model itself, then paint it in using white

The tanks on the back in particular are weird, they aren't incredibly high quality on one half since there's less polygons I believe, so you may get an image that's half blurry depending on where you position it

this is on the skin I'm currently working on, I just stenciled these on

[worthy dock]

Nice, thanks, that might be the way to go then.

[marsh light]

Found this video a while ago if you want the specifics on setting up and positioning a stencil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urUdMbO4E2c&t=667s

[plucky mason]

I just use substance painter to add my images

[worthy dock]

I was just looking at that, having a hard time replicating exactly how he used the nuclear symbol, but I'm sure I'll figure it out

[marsh light]

ODST suit from Halo: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamClark/ODST_Suit/

[dire falcon]

Might look good with a normal map if you can make one

[marsh light]

Not really familiar with them

[dire falcon]

You could try this out
https://cpetry.github.io/NormalMap-Online/

Just take a black texture and paint white where you want all your grooves to be

[worthy dock]

Having this issue when baking

Would this be a model alignment problem?

I loaded in the two FBX files and left them in place

[plucky mason]

Try 3m "extrude along normals" on the new model

[worthy dock]

Thanks

[marsh light]

@dire falcon Another reupload, this time packaged as a modpack: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TeamFunni/More_Suits/

[worthy dock]

So weird...

[zealous saddle]

i don't really understand why we need a new model and baking, I just painted on OGModel and it works perfectly fine in game

[plucky mason]

It's mainly for people who prefer to paint on the UV map.
Plus it's easy to upload images on the model.

[still bloom]

i suck at anything artistic- and wanting to make a skin anyone wanting to help me out? I'll pay or something? ;n; just want it for when i stream the game

[peak marsh]

Just make it one color and slap ur logo on it or smth

[still bloom]

i was gonna get something a little harder then that tbh i dont really have a logo xD

[marsh light]

What're you looking to make?

[still bloom]

Just something to represent my character i use for my twitch

[marsh light]

Do you have any references or anything? That's typically a good starting point

[still bloom]

i have pics of him ye and the idea of what i want on it

[plucky mason]

Is it complex, or simple?

[still bloom]

it maybe a little complex for the wings on the tanks

[marsh light]

If it's paid I wouldn't mind making it for you, you can dm me

[keen geode]

Can someone help me put the suits in the actual game? I put the png files and json files but it's not working

[mortal cloud]

Please head to #help-and-troubleshooting for any help with modding your game. Please be patient as the employees are only human.

[dire falcon]

Go away bot

[keen geode]

stupid bot

[dire falcon]

Any .png's need to be in a folder called moresuits

optional json files go in the advanced folder inside moresuits

[keen geode]

Yeah thats what I did

Wait

Do they have to be Png's?

or they can be a different image such as JPG?

[dire falcon]

They must be .png files.

[keen geode]

Gotcha

Thats the problem

[dire falcon]

And remember that just changing the file extension doesn't make them .png files, they need to be saved as .png files in a program that can save .png files.

[keen geode]

Mhm

Im resaving them rn

Works!

[sturdy smelt]

I think i may have broken something, i installed MoreSuits then i installed the "1000 Quota Stare" suit and now i don't see any suits on the rack even after uninstalling the extra suit.

[dire falcon]

I'm not sure why that would be, any errors in the log?

[sturdy smelt]

let me check my log real quick

Heres the only reference to it in the log, doesn't seem to show any issues. "[Info :More Suits] Plugin More Suits is loaded!"

actually i found another that may be causing the issue

"[Warning: BepInEx] Plugin [More Suits 1.3.2] targets a wrong version of BepInEx (5.4.22.0) and might not work until you update"

Im running the BepInExPack v5.4.2100 from Thunderstore but r2modman isnt seeing any updates for BepInEx

[jaunty glade]

has anyone textured a suit in substance painter?

im tryna make one rn but its pretty hard

[jaunty glade]

im trying to use the polygon fill but it goes through to the oiither side

[hard lava]

So does anyone know what happens yet when you fill the rack? can you only have a certain numnber of suits at a time

also buying suits, are they always in the store and how do you get them once you pay for them, I assume theyre added to the rack right

[dire falcon]

They rotate per quota, and they go right to the rack on purchase

[elfin jetty]

so i did everything in the video

now how do i save the picture

anyone know?

[jaunty glade]

im trying to texture the thing and the uv is so bad

i saw the yt video on how to use the updated uv but it confused me more

im texturing in substance painter

[elfin jetty]

how do i save this from blender?

[plucky mason]

Use UV alignment to paint the UV without it going to other islands

[vestal sand]

So how would I go about getting the one on the left as a template? Tried to scroll up and ones similar to it are only 1024x1024, not the 2048x2048. I don't trust myself to use blender itself to edit like I could on something like Adobe or GIMP.

[marsh light]

Could use any of the .png files found in the MoreSuits directory, for example using Default.png as a starting point

Unless you wanted that specific template in a solid colour, in which case paint the model a colour that isn't default and export the UV using the Image button on the left pane

[vestal sand]

I could, but then getting rid of the black background is hard with other darker colors and the fact the suit I have in mind also users dark colors

[marsh light]

If you want, say a white background, I'd suggest painting the entire UV white, then painting the model black. There is an easy way to just change the colour of everything contained within the wireframe but I can't remember off the top of my head

[vestal sand]

How do I do it for coloring the BG in UV Editing? Sort of new on this blender thing.

[marsh light]

You can just pick a colour and paint the UV

[vestal sand]

Just having trouble filling in all the space to get that wireframe to show up. Filling it with bucket doesn't help as it would make strange other dots/lines appear

[wispy sun]

hey lois im in lethal company, hehehehe

[mystic lava]

Does the texture have to be 2048x2048 or could it be larger

[dire falcon]

I've never tested it but I don't see why larger wouldn't work

[austere gyro]

Alright so Im looking for a template to use for my custom skins. Does anyone have a good reference they are using for all of those, the really small bits included? Cause I would get substance painter to do it, but spending $150 just to make some skins is wild lol

[plucky mason]

The basic model?
It's in pins

[austere gyro]

No not the model, I dont have any reliable programs for painting on a 3d model. So I am looking for a reference for the flat image. Because as of right now what Im doing. I am filling in random spots with random colors on the “glow” file and putting the emission in the JSON file to the highest so I can see where that one part is on the model, I join a public lobby and look at someone wearing the skin, take note of where it was, and I leave.

[plucky mason]

Oh so you need the UV map

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[austere gyro]

Yeah pretty much, my problem is I dont know where everything on the map is going without going into a game and being a creep and just observing another player 😂. So I guess Ill ask this with the UV Map on the right, is everything in certain sections? Cause with what Ive seen everything is pretty spread out.

And Im sorry for the not too thought out responses and questions. Im at work right now and I work in an area that has Vice Presidents walking around observing constantly

[plucky mason]

Yeah it's okay lol
The new UV map is group ish together, and the links lead to a colored legend of what part of the UV islands is what

I tend to do the New UV map first then bake it to the OG map

Since you know it's easier to paint on

[austere gyro]

Ok sick. So next question, because I am not a 3D modeler in any sort… What program/process would be needed to “bake” the new map to the OG? Because you are right that looks way easier

[plucky mason]

You would have to download blender. Blender is free tho.

Their a video tutorial in the pins on how to bake from New to Old UV map

[austere gyro]

Ok sweet! Thank you very much for your help, I cant express how appreciative I am right now. If I do run into any road blocks when working on it, could I message you privately?

[plucky mason]

I guess, but you can always contact 753. He's the creator of More Suits.

[austere gyro]

Alright sweet! Thanks again! You probably just saved me loads of future headache

[austere gyro]

Alright new topic, new question, not about model texturing lol. Is there any way to make it so that some suits dont show up on the clothes rack, but you still get the texture for it when other people wear it?

[dire falcon]

not sure what you mean by that

[glass blaze]

think he means completely remove said suit so that it doesnt show up even if someone wears it

i believe you'd just have to delete the suit from the files no?

[austere gyro]

Sorry what I mean, is I want to remove the suit from MY rack, so that it doesnt take up a space. Though I would still like to have it in the file so I CAN see other people wearing it. Again sorry for the badly worded questions.

[glass blaze]

ah, i see

i believe theres a text file, you can add the suits name there and it will remove it from your rack

but you will still see it

just follow the 3 default suits added on the cfg file and remember to add the .png at the end of the name

make sure if it has a capital letter at the start of its name to also add it

so, lets say i wanted to remove the glow suit from my rack, i would type in Glow.png,

@austere gyro

should be in the config folder

unless you use r2modman, then you can easily go to 753's More Suits in the config tab and add it there

[pliant rock]

I have more suits downloaded and sent the same exact files over to a friend but he hosted and i cant see them...im kinda stumped on why i cant see them in the other lobby

[austere gyro]

Ok I think I get what youre putting down. I will have to look at it once I get off work. And yeah I am using r2. So I will look at that when I get home. Again, thank you everyone, yall are awesome

[glass blaze]

heres a small guide 753 left in here

[pliant rock]

we have the same config tho (we didnt do the code through thr thunderstorm i just loaded them in the local files) they match up perfect as I sent what I had. But do we need to use thunderstorm ?

[wispy sun]

is there a way to change the material for part of the texture? i.e. make the visor have a glossy material in game

[hot frigate]

look at my PBR textures, you'll need pretty good understanding of image editing and channel packing.

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I'm not very good at unity systems and these are weird implementations lol

[hot frigate]

I'm the creator of the better UV model, I can help you with literally anything in blender texture related.

[austere gyro]

Gotchu! Thank you so much!

[wet mica]

@dire falcon Is it possible to create a UI or a terminal menu to disable and enable suits that can be changed into?

[dire falcon]

It likely is but I don't think I'll be doing that in my mod

[wet mica]

I figured, just it sucks changing all the clothing to suit the group of players you play with.

[jaunty glade]

For texturing suits in adobe substance painter, how do I get rid of the lighting adobe adds to it? I tried just exporting the base color but its too dark

[timber pasture]

hi! this is going to sound stupid but I don't have any idea what i'm doing! Is anyone able to help walk me through this visually, or written baby steps lol? like written steps of how to do this through thunderstore? I made my own suits for myself and my friend group, I want to upload those specific suits on their own to thunderstore so my friends can just easily download the mod for the suits I made to use them instead of having to download all of the extra suits too, that we wont use. and ive never done anything like this so the written instructions confuse me

[wet mica]

Somewhere above, I think there are youtube tutorials

[timber pasture]

okay i'll dig, thank you!

[timber pasture]

I scrolled and might've missed something but didn't see any tutorials on uploading our own suits as a mod onto thunderstore, so for the time being i'll just do it manually

[bleak sinew]

the way i did it was by going to the thunderstore settings on your profile and click this

once you click it, itll take you to some folders click bepinex, then plugins,then more suits and then more suits again

after just drag the png where the others are and it should work

[timber pasture]

Yeah that’s how I’ve done it and had my friends do it but it’s tedious for every single one of us to have the same files that way, and I believe there is a way to upload just the skins I’ve made for us to thunderstore as a mod for them to download instead of manually moving files

[marsh light]

If you want to put it on Thunderstore for easy downloads, you have to make a zipped package that includes a manifest, icon, readme, and your own files for the package. Go here and skip to the manual creation section for info: https://h3vr-modding.github.io/wiki/creating/thunderstore/uploading.html

Your own files in there would be in the file path /BepInEx/moresuits/, throw all of your suit .pngs in here

[timber pasture]

thank you!

[worthy dock]

I'll be fixing up my Darnell Skin set, it's real busted but I've put in a lot of effort today to fix it

Just rushed too fast

Probably not skins relevant to anyone in here, but it has 200 downloads for some reason despite being entirely broken

[opaque oak]

Why would it need to be larger?

[worthy dock]

Higher detail

[mystic lava]

yeah like that

[worthy dock]

Is there a good solution for skin preview? 3rd person camera shows me transparent

[opaque oak]

But 2k is already so much detail

[worthy dock]

nah not on this piss poor UV

[opaque oak]

Or well, yeah

[worthy dock]

so much wasted space

poor unwrap

[opaque oak]

Still though bigger textures eat up more space and power, so just something to keep in mind

Part of why the fancier looking games are getting so bloated with like dozens of 2k-4k textures for one material

Seriously though, the texture files are nearly 2/3rd of Bladurs Gate 3's 125gb install size

[mystic lava]

yeah i just wanted to put a really hd face of my friend on one of the suits

[worthy dock]

I've learned from some people posting in here, so I am giving back with my own learnings in a 5 minute video that explains how to use blender to open the original model FBX and get painting, as well as explaining stenciling and how the select tool works a wee bit. Hopefully this helps others out as well to make more content.

[light spruce]

That's actually really helpful and someone should pin this video for other people to see and use as a guide
But I have a question
In the video that is on yt with blender for making the suit and coloring it the guy used two models old and new and he painted on the new one but baked on the old one
And I see here you painted on the old one and didn't use the new one at all

[bleak sinew]

[calm plinth]

the suits dont work 😵‍💫

I think it's because the images are in the wrong folder

since the json got moved to the advanced folder

[worthy dock]

What's your actual question?

[worthy dock]

I'll assume you're asking why I didn't use both. The reason they used both is to allow you to use a better uv wrap to edit, making it easier to edit in tools like Photoshop. I chose to instead just paint the original model directly and stencils to insert what I want versus in Photoshop

[frank sky]

Saitama

https://gyazo.com/eb08f4a6d9d2a0aadfb0c69fc2073dc2

[plucky mason]

@worthy dock I'm having an error trying to fill paint the hand via mask.
Plus massive lag. Probably relating to the amount of faces the hand has.

Is their something I'm missing?

[worthy dock]

uh no clue on that striping, that's super strange

I am a super noob with Blender, literally only used it for this lol

[marsh light]

The UV for the enhanced model has some overlay with the other hand which causes them to affect each other when you paint, I noticed this when I tried doing some individual patterns for each hand on a model, it's not possible

[plucky mason]

Dam

The price to pay for a nice uv map

[cloud ember]

With the more suits mod, can it work with bigger lobby mod?

[peak marsh]

Yes

Why would it not

[balmy swan]

yes it work perfectly, even with 20+ players

[light spruce]

yeah that's what i was asking for cz when i did the other way i had some issues with the uv and baking

thanks for answering

[worthy dock]

no problem

I had way too many issues with baking, which is why I decided to just try it another way

[light spruce]

how can one copy a color in the texture painting phase

[plucky mason]

Eyedropper tool right where the color picker is

[light spruce]

what did u press to get that

nvm found it

ty

[plucky mason]

np

[light spruce]

any suggestion on what to put for the visor?

[austere gyro]

Hey does anyone have tips for aligning the og model and enhanced model together perfectly in blender to bake the texture? I dont know the best way to line up the models, my first attempt got very skewed and out of place textures and i thought it was pretty close to aligned

[plucky mason]

Leave the models positions alone and change the new model "extrude along normals" by 3m

[austere gyro]

Oh ok cool thanks!

[timber pasture]

hey, this is going to sound stupid but I dont know what im doing, I uploaded my moresuits mod with my suits I made for my friends to be able to easily download, and this is how I submitted it as a mod. but when I install it through thunderstore and use it, it doesnt work because theres no moresuits folder, its just all together in one folder. I can fix it manually after downloading it and it works in game, but how do I get the moresuits (+advanced) folder to already exist when I submit the mod?

when I install it, it just becomes this lol all mashed together (all the names are my suits)

[dire falcon]

put the moresuits folder in a folder named plugins

and put that folder in a folder named BepInEx

and then zip all that

[timber pasture]

like this? & then upload the BepInEx.zip as a mod to thunderstore?

[dire falcon]

no, icon manifest and readme should be outside the BepInEx folder

[timber pasture]

got it! thank you so so much!

[gleaming spade]

my suits aren't loading anymore and idk why, they were fine before I updated

oh I think I got it, it's because the folder name isn't more suits

[light spruce]

What do i have to do step by step from the beginning to have what Megan did so i dont have to send my friends the png manually for them the download it and put it in their files?

[dire falcon]

I should make a quick sample package for people to upload

[light spruce]

that'd be most preferable, or like a short video of how to do the whole process

[dire falcon]

Here's an example package on how to upload your own custom suits using my mod as a dependency. Simply add your .png files to the moresuits folder, change the manifest.json file to name the mod, and update the icon.png to a 256x256 picture of your suit(s). If you want to upload your mod again, just upload it with the same name but change the version number in the manifest.json

@flint falcon pin please

[jaunty glade]

I am unable to open the manifest and README files as it says its not a supported file type

[dire falcon]

use a different program like notepad

[jaunty glade]

for some reason it doesnt show the option "open with", hm

[light spruce]

when it tells you that there are no apps to run the file theres a button underneath that says more options

[jaunty glade]

usually

this is all i see for whatever reason

[exotic halo]

notepad++ got you covered

[jaunty glade]

how can i get it open

[light spruce]

what does it say when you right click on the file

take an ss

[jaunty glade]

open cut copy paste properties

[light spruce]

do you have notepad++ on your pc

[jaunty glade]

mine show up as adobe files

maybe cause its a zip file

it works for the other files in the plugin just not the mycustomsuits

[exotic halo]

yeah you gotta unzip it

[jaunty glade]

ahh ok

can anyone help me with another issue regarding lighting/shading on the suit texture i made?

For texturing suits in adobe substance painter, how do I get rid of the lighting adobe adds to it? I tried just exporting the base color but its too dark

[light spruce]

tbh i have no experience in that program, i barely started using blender a week ago else i wouldve gladly helped

[jaunty glade]

like i imported it to blender and its got all the insane amount of white lighting thats baked into the texture

texturing on blender is doodoo lol

[light spruce]

you have to take into consideration regarding the lighting you put on the suit that the game has its own sort of texture style that might mess with it or not interpretate what you're trying to do

[jaunty glade]

yea i dont want this harsh lighting

[light spruce]

Are u using the old model new model method?

[jaunty glade]

new

[light spruce]

Also cool concept btw

[jaunty glade]

tyty

something u cant do inblender

[light spruce]

True
You might be able to but it'd be tough

[light spruce]

I meant the method that's pinned in this channel

Where you grab both the old and new model

[jaunty glade]

yea

[light spruce]

If you hide the old model

Will it still have the shine

[jaunty glade]

the shine is in the texture map

[light spruce]

I see

[jaunty glade]

but if i turn it to base color mode it looks way too dark like this

[light spruce]

Yeah looks kinda scuffed

[opal cairn]

Has anyone gotten normal map textures to actually work ingame?

[jaunty glade]

do u use substance painter

[opal cairn]

i have someone else making the textures for me (yes they do)

[light spruce]

Maybe try using it in game see if it would still have that

[jaunty glade]

can u ask them how to export my textures properly for the game

cause this mod only uses single pngs

[jaunty glade]

and this is my issue

[light spruce]

You need to bake both models then export the uv image

[jaunty glade]

no im talking about the lighting tho

i know how to bake the new uv to the old uv

[light spruce]

nvm
Thought you were asking that

[opal cairn]

ive seen other suit mods try to use normal maps but they dont actually load https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TangoTeds/Escapade_Suits/

[jaunty glade]

can u show ur texturer this and ask them what i should do? this is the base color exported because the material export has too much shine

[opal cairn]

ill see what he says but hes currently offline

[jaunty glade]

kk ty

ok so i baked the dark base color texture to the old suit model and now the lighting is perfectly fine

not theres some random faces that are messed up

[light spruce]

Nice

That's what I was saying lol

How does it look like now

[jaunty glade]

made no sense but thank u

[light spruce]

Np

[jaunty glade]

it messed up the image

[light spruce]

Hide the old model and see

[jaunty glade]

i did

its messed up in the uv texture too

[light spruce]

Damn

[light spruce]

Maybe try to use something like 3d paint and use a brush to smudge it up a bit see if that works

or like a spray brush to add the blood again

[jaunty glade]

i just wish the 3d model and uv original version were usable lol

[light spruce]

yeah alot of problems with it tbh
That's why I chose to make basic suits for it lmao

[jaunty glade]

stamp tools working tysm,

[light spruce]

Nice

Well I'm off to sleep
Gl with it and show us how it looks in game when it works out

[worthy dock]

use stencil brush 😄

[opal cairn]

Would be cool to have the ability to disable keywords

[hot frigate]

I've done it

[opal cairn]

spent 2 hours doign random changes

turns out on mine normals dont work with emissive

[hot frigate]

this may be a real issue, but I did this in mine:

also @dire falcon
price broke my json?

[dire falcon]

Did it?

[hot frigate]

yeah not showing up in store at all

or on rack

[dire falcon]

The store rotates, it won't always show up

[hot frigate]

yeah I know, i checked 8 deadlines

and i have 3-4 suits using it

[opal cairn]

setting smoothness to 1 is soo goofy lmao

[hot frigate]

possibly, it has to be higher up on list? I'll check real quick just incase that's the issue

it seems like a similar issue occurs with normal and emissive maps

[opal cairn]

has anyone tried removing parts of the model using transparency

[dire falcon]

Did you check 8 deadlines, or did you start 8 saves? The shop rotation is always the same if you do it that way.

[opal cairn]

yea something is weird

i made normalscale 8 so it was more obvious which one is working

left vs right onyl difference is emissive

[hot frigate]

played the game normally and checked the shop for my items (and romantic table) every deadline

[dire falcon]

I've had issues making emission work with normal maps

[dire falcon]

And I can't think of anything that would cause this, any exceptions in your log?

[hot frigate]

remove this comma maybe

i'm just applying source logic to this lol

[hot frigate]

I'll check quickly

[opal cairn]

i noticed this before posting the screen shot and retested to make sure it was still the same case

[hot frigate]

alright gotcha

gonna check something really quick

maybe I have an idea

[opal cairn]

could it possibly be a texture size issue?

emissive is 4267x4267 and normal is 1024 for some odd reason hmm

[hot frigate]

try 4096x4096

[opal cairn]

yea i just thought it could be a power of 2 thing

[hot frigate]

yep

2048x2048 is the native resolution of the skin/original texture

and anything above that is basically redundant because of the game's shading and its render resolution

[opal cairn]

same situation

i resized all images to 1024

still breaks normals when adding emissive

[hot frigate]

hmmm

[opal cairn]

idk if you might wana try this or something (change images ofc) { "_NormalMap": "DrippyN.png", "_NormalScale": 3.0, "_Smoothness": 0.75, "_EmissiveColorMap": "DrippyE.png", "_UseEmissiveIntensity": 1.0, "_EmissiveIntensity": 10.0, "_EmissiveColor": "1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0", "_EMISSIVE_COLOR_MAP": "KEYWORD" }

[hot frigate]

alright so, sorry for wasting precious seconds, there was literally nothing in the log for the mod, and it turns out, when migrating all mods + files/settings to newest versions i forgot your mod by accident.

I'll be smarter next time i promise lol

[hot frigate]

yeah I had everything but the DLL and i dont know how I did that

[little iris]

is there any tutorials on how to make your own suits?

[dire falcon]

pins

[little iris]

oh sorry, and thank you lol

[fast dew]

wait why is it not posible i know you are good at making skins?

also what about naruto skin or Kakashi

[light spruce]

its not letting me upload the suits i made as a pack on the website

[light spruce]

can anyone lmk if i did the whole file thing correctly?

[wispy sun]

you zipped the folder, you need to zip all the files in that folder instead

[wispy sun]

this should work

[light spruce]

oh yeah thanks

but i meant to send it for someone to see if i did the whole process of creating my own mod so i can upload it on the website

but the thing is whenever i drag and drop the folder to upload it so ppl can use it it just sits there and doesnt tell me anything if its downloading it or not

i need to upload the zip file and not the file itself?

cz now i see it working and there's a bar indicating the upload

[wispy sun]

it looks good to me, i believe it should work

[light spruce]

keeps telling me invalid icon dimensions must be 256x256

even tho i made the icon.png 256x256

[wispy sun]

try with this

[light spruce]

alright works thanks

but when i download it on the mod manager it also downloads the original moresuits mod which is logical but how can i prevent the suits from it appear in game and onlu mine appear

the whole idea of making a standalone mod is to prevent other suits from appearing

[fallen fulcrum]

If you don't want the suits that originally come with my mod, add a file called !less-suits.txt to your moresuits folder in your mod

[light spruce]

yeah i already did that but its showing the suits from the original mod along side mine

[fallen fulcrum]

weird, i did the exact same thing with my skin pack and it didn't show the default suits from the mod

[light spruce]

thing is when you download your own mod it installs the original more suits mod

and you cant disable it cz your own mod needs it

[fallen fulcrum]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[light spruce]

can you show me the mods you have installed

[fallen fulcrum]

@light spruce you're uploading this right?

[light spruce]

yeah its already on the website

[fallen fulcrum]

i think you're missing a folder

im comparing mine with yours and i think you're missing plugins folder

[fallen fulcrum]

i tried downloading it, something definitely broke

[frank sky]

I mean its kinda possible but not the way you'd want

It'd come out scuffed

Coz of the helmet

[light spruce]

weird

[dire falcon]

You need to have the same folder setup as the example

that means folders BepInEx/plugins inside the .zip

and the moresuits folder goes in that

No

Get rid of MoreSuits.dll, that file shouldn't be in there

[light spruce]

like this

[dire falcon]

Looks good to me, go ahead and delete PlayerSuitTex2b.png in the advanced folder since you're not using it anywhere though

[light spruce]

alright done now i only need to know how can i completely delete the old upload i made on the website

[dire falcon]

You don't

You change the version in manifest.json and upload your mod again with the same name

and it'll overwrite it

[light spruce]

so it was 1.0.0 i make it 1.0.1 then upload?

and should i change the website url in the manifest?

its working now

[jaunty glade]

I'm sure someone else already asked this but is there a way to have more suits than the rack allows? If not, how do I make them rotate and how often can they rotate? I don't want some of the suits because I want to use my own but my friends have all the default suits enabled

[wet mica]

It isn't limited.

[jaunty glade]

Does it just go passed the rack?

[wet mica]

Also, you have to have a custom folder for the custom suits.

[wet mica]

Yes

[jaunty glade]

I haven'

I haven't made a custom folder I have it sitting in the mod itself

[wet mica]

13 is what the rack can fit.

[jaunty glade]

I haven't figured that out yet

[wet mica]

Well, technically, if your just using the base mod, you can just use the config file. (It isn't really recommended cause the custom suits will be deleted when an update comes out).

[jaunty glade]

So how does having my own file protect it from being deleted

[wet mica]

...

[jaunty glade]

I plan on making a mod for my suits to make it easier for my friends to enable and disable I just haven't gotten around to it yet

[wet mica]

It won't completely replace the folder with the updated stuff.

[jaunty glade]

ok

[dire falcon]

just make a folder called moresuits in the plugins folder and move all your suits to it

[jaunty glade]

sorry i know nothing about modding im dumb lol

okie

tysm

I am going to use your mycustomsuits file example and just change the names and delete ur white suit and then upload it as a mod if i can

Ok so if I'm understanding right.

1. Take My Custom Suits zip file you provided
2. Put it into BepInEx/plugins
3. In the manifest, change the name to "Julies_Suits"

[dire falcon]

basically, yup

just remember that if you zip it up again the folders need to be just like the folders in my .zip

meaning you need moresuits in BepInEx/plugins in the .zip

[jaunty glade]

does this work?

nothing else is zipped, is that just for uploading it to thunderstore?

I am trying to find how to upload the mod

[dire falcon]

You need to zip the files in the Julies_Suits folder

not the folder itself

[jaunty glade]

ah ok

[dire falcon]

why did you make a folder called manifest...?

ohhh it's the zip

yes rename it to your mod name although it doesn't really matter iirc

is that Windows 11? Those folder icons look so much worse

[jaunty glade]

yea windows 11

[jaunty glade]

i uploaded it, thank u so much! :D https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Irenic/Julies_Suits/

[still bloom]

ive got the moresuits in my BepIn Ex folder but nothing is showing up in game can anyone help

[jaunty glade]

the enhanced model is missing two screws on the back right side of the helmet

[hot frigate]

auuuugh, auuuuuugh

i wish i used a google drive link

shit has been annoying me for so long 💀

[jaunty glade]

huh

[hot frigate]

i cant fix it because I didn't use google drive originally, and discord seems to have no options for switching files out without links

[jaunty glade]

just make a whole new thing

[hot frigate]

yeah, issue with that is it's just annoying to do, I'l also like to fix some issues with the back tanks though, so @dire falcon if you want me to fix 2 minor issues with the enhanced model I'll do it, but I'll need to re-make the message with google drive links instead of simple discord ones.

[jaunty glade]

like put a new message with a new file

ah

i mean it doesnt bother me cause i can just repaint the tiny bit

[hot frigate]

it'll likely cause some large changes to the UV too

the back tanks are connected with vertices

and will need to be re-mapped

[light spruce]

i have a question, i made a new suit and i added it to the file i made and went in game but i dont see it in game

do i have to re-upload it to the website then it'll work?

[jaunty glade]

i think u only need to reupload for others to see it

[hot frigate]

I'd also like to include a small tutorial for texture painting so you get less people harassing this channel (and how to use the enhanced model)

[jaunty glade]

cause the more suits base mod i just stuck my pngs in there and it was fine

[jaunty glade]

i recorded 2.5 hours of me texture painting my bloody suit in adobe substance but i dont think a lot of people use that here

but blender texture painting is garbage

[dire falcon]

yeah feel free

[hot frigate]

yeah, i'm a procedural guy.

painting directly onto UV is fine though

[jaunty glade]

its not even that its blender doesnt have like any tools

atleast nothing useful to me

[light spruce]

yeah but i wont reupload yet till i can see that the suit is in game and functional which isnt

[jaunty glade]

yea

[light spruce]

so i was asking like why is it not working atm

[jaunty glade]

i wanna see my suit in game besides in the 3rd person pov from behind but my friends havent been playing recently lol. but 125 people downloaded it already so maybe ill get feedback

maybe test the suit in the 753 mod

[hot frigate]

i have paint, i have paint material, i have paint image, i have custom brushes, i really dont need more lol

only i dont use any of these because I just make procedural materials really easily lol; and if I do use these it's for a nice model for companies/dev teams

[light spruce]

anyone know why its getting baked that dark

[fickle fog]

bro i have no idea how to install it is there a video?

[hot frigate]

ENHANCED MODELS VERSION 1.0.2:

New stuff:

- Better Shoe UVs. (Change by: -Mne)
- Better Hazmat Tank UVs. (Change by: -Mne)
- Points-Of-Interest UVs. (Change by: -Mne)
- Better Geometry. (Change by: -Mne)
- Better UVs. (Change by: -Mne)
- Baking fix attempt #1. (Change by: -Mne)
- Perfect alignment. (Change by: -Mne)
- Template material. (Change by: -Mne)
- Better naming scheme. (Change by: -Mne)
- Custom Split Normals Data.

-- Community Fixes/Tweaks! --
- Fixed bolts on right side of helmet. (Courtesy of: -Julie)
- Fixed hand UVs, (overlap); (Courtesy of: -Liam)

QOL Changes

- Better naming for OG model. (Change by: -Mne)
- Template material for OG model (Change by: -Mne)
- Cleaner file naming. (Change by: -Mne)
- Better alignment. (Change by: -Mne)

Heavily recommended instead of using base game model! ^^^

DISCLAIMER: UVS ARE DIFFERENT, FINISH YOUR CURRENT SKINS AND THEN SWITCH TO THIS VERSION.

DOWNLOAD FOR MODELS.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18ShPqaV6U3FufVZLcnEv3DEd8xXEtfL4/view?usp=sharing

DOWNLOAD ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

TUTORIALS: (More Coming.)

https://youtu.be/pmsdI-xs8Pc

Extra Information_00 (Edit 00)

• Credit not required.
• Usage requires some previous knowledge.
• Requires baking

[plucky mason]

Thank you!

[worthy dock]

Does this bake easier/better?

If so I can make another video with baking similar to the prior video I uploaded in this channel, with some actual voice over and better explanations 😄

[light spruce]

judging from what i read i think it should have better baking and such

[hot frigate]

baking process should be easier for people that havent done it before and the models (should) have template materials. so if you wanna replace the admittedly shitty video I made go ahead!

[worthy dock]

I started working on testing it a few minutes ago, once I feel familiar enough, I’ll make a video. I just want to make sure everything is working how I’m expecting first.

I did upload one video in here already that shows how to use stencils with the original bottle, maybe I’ll make one video that covers both concepts

[deep gyro]

@hot frigate thank you for the models and tutorial! I was able to make a suit for a friend and it gave me a chance to learn how to bake textures :3 Here is how he turned out!

[light spruce]

The unintentional flip off 😂

[worthy dock]

There's a mod that adds that animation so probably intentional 😛

[glass blaze]

probably

[short jasper]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ST6/More_Suits/
looks like a reupload/ripoff

[harsh whale]

wasnt that the RAT mod someone uploaded?

[dire falcon]

Probably not? People reupload the mod all the time because they think they need to to get their suits in.

[wet mica]

Looks a lot like they just copied the whole folder without changing anything and then uploading it lol

[light spruce]

how can i put a change log on the website for my mod

[exotic halo]

into your README file

example

[light spruce]

alright thanks

[dire falcon]

you can also add a file named CHANGELOG.md

[austere gyro]

Alright everyone I have a couple questions, hopefully they havent been asked already so you are not restating info.

1. What is the max Emission level you can have for “Glow”

2. In the JSON file what exaxtly does the NormalScale Tag change? Is there a use for changing its value.

3. What different tags can I add to the Suits Object in the JSON file to add more style/functionality? I do know about the PRICE for the store and the Glow map, just looking for other things thag could possibly be used to spice up the suits a bit more

Other note: if the person who made the Santa Suit mod is in this server, your mod messes with the other mods, so something isnt coded right. Just so you know, no hate, just a critique

Thanks!

[dire falcon]

there's a link to the documentation in the readme

[exotic halo]

thats too many word in that article, could you explain mister numbers

[blazing crag]

Completely new to Blender, is there a better video showing newbies how to bake/use texture painting? I really just want the UV map for the new model and I could use my own software to paint what I want then there might be a way to upload that as the texture map? And does baking this new model make the texture I make on the new model stretch/remap to fit the og one?

I am lost. lol

I tried following the pinned tutorial for baking/texturing this but it goes way too fast and my workspace did not look the same when he got to the creating texture layer part. Using Blender 4.0.2

All want to do is crop art of my eyes onto the visor part of the suit really. When I used the OG texture map I noticed for Mario's face (I used as an example to help guide me) the sides of his head were cut and flipped/stretched.

[light spruce]

oh alright, thanks for the info

[light spruce]

i havent tried to do anything with the improved new and og model but for the visor idea what you can do is use the eyes art as a stencil and stick it onto the visor

use this as a refrence https://youtu.be/urUdMbO4E2c?si=rjMhEM7MFbw39UhY

[hot frigate]

for something like this, using the OG model is fine, really you only need to use the new model if you wanna do a re-texture that is very different than the OG, like different colors, materials. stuff like that; I recommend just using stencils and painting the eyes on. ^

• my video's not really a "first thing to do with blender" video

contact me directly if you need help with blender at all, i can help you easier there.

[blazing aspen]

anyone here able to make some suits for me?

[jaunty glade]

when I bake the new to the OG, usually only a few faces move around. but a lot of them did this time now that i used ur revised uv. how do i avoidthis

@hot frigate

[plucky mason]

@hot frigate Do you have the color ID to fill certain sections?

[hot frigate]

looks a lot like extrusion issues,

[hot frigate]

used to, it shouldnt be too hard to make your own, but maybe I'll add one just for those people that dont know how/want to

[plucky mason]

Yeah it isn't too bad to make

Also progress!

[hot frigate]

those are some nice textures!

[wispy sun]

ive noticed a uv mapping error while trying to use this, both the right hand and left hand are mapped on top of each other and this isnt the case on the in game model which makes it difficult to do any thing with different hand textures. hope you can fix this in the next version, thank you for all your work :]

[hot frigate]

?

one moment

i'm pretty sure they are seperate

but i'll check rq

[wispy sun]

this is how it looks for me if it helps

the blue is from the left hand

and the brown and copper is from my work on the right hand

[hot frigate]

yeah yhhh

that's stupid, idk how i didn't notice that, ill fix it

[hot frigate]

alright new zip contains new model, some of the UVs were moved around to compensate for my dumb-assery so be careful, most UVs are untouched though.

[wispy sun]

glad i could help out a little with this awesome stuff your making

[dire falcon]

@marsh light I've updated More Suits to v1.3.3, which has a config option for ignoring !less-suits.txt

[plucky mason]

Rip . I have to start from scratch again.

[sly hill]

I'll just leave it here

[hot frigate]

shouldnt have to unless you wanted to do something cool with the gloves

you could finish your skin and then switch because the only issue with the 1.0 was that the uvs with the hands were overlapping lol

[plucky mason]

If it's only the gloves then it's fine ish.

[elder prawn]

Hello. I still have the same problem as yesterday. Everytime i get my Suits mod from Thunderstore Mod Manager it removes my moresuits folder.

Can someone help me 😄

[mortal cloud]

Please head to for any help with modding your game. Please be patient as the employees are only human.

[dire falcon]

You likely used the wrong folder setup.

Make sure your package looks like that

[elder prawn]

Oh lord. U the best. Looking for this since before yesterday. Thank you

[marsh light]

Cheers for that, that's ideal.

[elder prawn]

Where do i find the original model FBX

[plucky mason]

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[hot frigate]

btw big thanks for actually reporting it, this was an issue with the previous version and nobody told me. :D

[wispy sun]

no prob, glad to help

[worthy dock]

Anyone know what strings are needed to disable the default skins?

Assuming they can go into the Disabled Suit List string

We hit an issue where the amount of skins we had exceeded to the point of being unable to charge anything (without bugging out or dying)

Oh, you know I just found too many suits

I'll just install that.

[wet mica]

There is a configuration file too

[serene venture]

who's got this suit and can it be a stand alone mod 🐥

[worthy dock]

@dire falcon reupload found https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Yoder/More_Suits/

maybe a whole channel for handling reports about stolen/reuploaded/ potential scams would help

Also while I'm here, what could I have possible done wrong with my skin mod that it would do this

[sweet pasture]

I assume it wouldn't even look good in game, but I thought it would be silly to make a PBR version of the minion suit. I am stuck at the point of integrating those textures into the JSON file. What would the JSON setup look like for a normal map, metallic map, and smoothness map?

[tropic mist]

That's just LC_API being stupid as usual

[hot frigate]

maskmap, it looks kinda like this

[hot frigate]

it does look pretty decent, just be careful with it, it's really annoying to deal with sometimes.

[sweet pasture]

Gotcha, do you have a picture of what your suit looks like? Just curious about it

[hot frigate]

i have these ones, they look a little different in game, because of annoying stuff with maskmap. but these are the only pictures i have currently

[sweet pasture]

yeah, very cool man! you use substance painter?

[sweet pasture]

i also didnt even think about it until just now, does the shader in game support metallic? or do i have to convert my stuff to specular

[hot frigate]

it supports metallic maps, the textures are all put in a channel pack btw.

[sweet pasture]

mask map has metallic, yeah

[hot frigate]

yeah yeah

[sweet pasture]

im slow, never worked with them before

[hot frigate]

did CPack system with another dude in godot, I don't like how unity has their materials set up

just personal preference but i still think they are annoying

[sweet pasture]

i've only ever messed with unity and i think it's probably the most annoying program i've used

i admittedly never used it for much else other than uploading vrchat avatars, but can't say i ever enjoyed the process

[jaunty glade]

@hot frigate Hey so I fixed the extrusion and it worked. However, is there a way to bake and not have to fix the texture after? because i'm having issues with colors bleeding into random islands and random bits texture just being completley messed up

[frank sky]

Ended up releasing my friend's suits as a thing in the thunderstore so people don't have to download it manually if u guys want it

it includes jogo, saitama, frieza, intruder and adds a lil glow to the combine elite suit

everytime he makes a new suit i'll add it in

[hot frigate]

example?

[jaunty glade]

yea ill bake it again and record it

[flint falcon]

https://tenor.com/bf5Jo.gif

[plucky mason]

Try 3

next time

[silver bramble]

can anyone explain how to make the custom skins? put it in smooth brain terms.

[plucky mason]

Their multiple ways on texturing skins.
Try this method (you'll only need blender for this one)
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[fast dew]

suprised there isnt a luffy skin either i guess op is just mid

[wheat laurel]

Hi, I found an error when you add the price to the clothes. You cannot exit the terminal, press Esc/Tab

The price of the clothes comes out but the terminal has an error

[dire falcon]

I do need to revisit the terminal stuff but I don't know if it's my mod causing that error

[wheat laurel]

maybe because i add newterminal?. idk because when i add price the terminal get bugged

[forest radish]

is there a way to edit a skin in a 3d area rather than have to use the net thingy? or a fully labelled map so i can see what im doing?

[dire falcon]

All my mods work on the new version :)

[wet mica]

It worked for me, it must be something else breaking it

[wheat laurel]

yeah maybe, because i add NewTerminal :/

[timber stump]

Can someone please help me understand the part of the video where they set baking parameters? This is my first time using blender so it's quite a struggle but I am working my way through it slowly.

https://youtu.be/pmsdI-xs8Pc?si=k2BmU7zhC71kkBtd&t=49

This one

I am trying way too hard to learn blender just for this.

Okay I figured out that part but now I am really confused how I go about making my painting the actual texture file I've already made? I see it makes a UV map as I paint with the texture paint tool but I don't know how to make that tied to the image texture I already made in the previous instruction's steps.

[worthy dock]

#1174822763186364486 message maybe this video helps? I don't use the baking process, so it's a bit easier, and I gave actual voice instructions lol

I've been meaning to make another, better video but I'm working on a mod instead.

[past sable]

Hey yall! I have been working on getting even MORE polished UVs for the player model and I think I got it laid out pretty well! ill send a screenshot for it here but let me know what you guys think

[marsh light]

Looks really good, massive improvement on what the base game has lmao

[past sable]

Thanks! I tried to make the parts that are most likely to be edited like the face, chest, and tank labels the largest so they can be edited easier and more clearly

Although the real challenge for me would be to somehow integrate replacing the player model with this one while still having customizable skins but with the new model. especially considering i don't know how to make a mod in the first place 🧍‍♂️

[dire falcon]

While I could probably load in a second set of UVs, I'm not really sure what the best way to choose which set of UVs to use would be. Would the file need to have a certain name if it's using different UVs? Maybe an item in the JSON?

but then we'll definitely be getting tons of people who see others using the different UVs and try to use them themselves without whatever necessary flag, then not understand why it isn't working

[past sable]

well I was thinking since there are other mods that replace the character model like the amogus mod and other things like that, I would do the same thing, and then combining that with the exisitng more suits mod, and just applying it to the new character model (now replacing the old one)

[worthy dock]

Looks fantastic

[dire falcon]

I'm pretty sure you could just replace the UVs alone instead of going through all that messy stuff.

[past sable]

Unfortunately, I am pretty sure a model's UVs are tied to it, with no real way to separate UVs from the model itself once it is in a project. If there is tho that would be great, but I don't know of one

[dire falcon]

Mesh.uv should be transferrable

[past sable]

how would I get the mesh.uv file from my model in blender? My only options are to export as a png, svg, or eps file

[dire falcon]

You could probably export an fbx with just the UVs and non of the vertex data and pack it into an assetbundle in unity

[past sable]

The UVs are transferrable, but they still have to be tied to some kind of mesh. I could transfer them to something simple like a cube but the cubes vertex data would still have to be there. I may be misunderstanding you tho

[dire falcon]

Ask ChatGPT if you can export an FBX with only UV data and not mesh data in Blender.

[past sable]

i guess lol worth a shot

[shrewd bronze]

Is there an easy way to inject an image into the visor?

[past sable]

says there is no way with FBX unless you use some sort of third party script to do so, but OBJs do store UV mapping information independently, so that could be an option if the original playermodel is on obj as well

although all ive seen are fbxs

[dire falcon]

Just open the model in blender and save just the UVs as an obj then that should be fine

[worthy dock]

check out my video tutorial on using a stencil brush

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I used it for that a few times, worked out great.

[shrewd bronze]

This is exactly what i needed, thank you!

[burnt vigil]

I rejoined into a match and the suits bugged out

[worthy dock]

finally some variety

[dire falcon]

That's odd. Any errors in the logs?

and are you sure you saw the suits before, and nobody changed files since?

[burnt vigil]

yes, it's my modpack

there's no red log

[dire falcon]

I'm not too sure what could be causing that then

are you using a mod that lets you rejoin without restarting the match?

[burnt vigil]

yes, but no one joined post start

but if that's the case, i'll delete it

it's ShipLobby btw

[past sable]

alright after consulting chatgpt about doing this I cannot export the obj file with just the UVs and no mesh data. It suggested putting the data on a dummy object like a cube but after trying it out, it did not work as it was intended to

[dire falcon]

Could be another mod, either way I can't recreate this problem.

[burnt vigil]

We finished the match, if it happens again, i'll check the log

[past sable]

okay chatgpt was able to give me a script that sxported the uv data as text and another script in C# to input the data in unity

[worthy dock]

hell yeah

AI is great at silly tasks like that

[exotic halo]

Is it a old save?

[serene venture]

Can some one make neco arc as a suit?

https://tenor.com/view/neco-arc-neco-arc-fate-cat-gif-1748062773671823114

[tame nexus]

I don't even know which mod is the right one lol

Nvm found it

[tame nexus]

I'm using the models and bakin showed in pin, but i suck at blender so idk how to add pictures in the model

also when i make and bake the texture, do i just export it as png and it'll work ?

and do i need to add the pic in texture before the bakin ?

[jaunty glade]

Omg your amazing thank u

[jaunty glade]

Can u post this on YouTube so I can save it

[tame nexus]

This vid is actually super helpful, should be pinned

[haughty bough]

did you say check the pinned post for the original model? i cant find it. could you help?

[tame nexus]

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[haughty bough]

how do i save it as a suit and get it to my lethal company folder

lol i dont even know what folder.

plugins...

[tropic mist]

Even if you had just the UV you'd have to make sure they were in the correct order to be applied to the original player model, It would probably just be easier to swap out the entire mesh instead of trying to doing just UVs. But if you do want to support alternate UVs or entire models, a json entry like modeltype in the suit would probably be good

[noble swift]

once you have a custom suit skin how do you package it to test it/publish it?

[past sable]

After much research, the best I can do is export the UV layout as a .txt file containing coordinates. I was able to successfully apply this layout with a python script to the default model, overwriting its UVs in blender, but I have had no such luck in Unity or C#. I can send you the UV layout text file and the python scripts from blender if youd like. I am not experienced in Unity or C#, so you may have more luck than me in applying the UVs

[past sable]

I do still think the simplest way would just be to replace the playermodel with the one I have with different UVs and go from there, but if you can make the txt file work thatd also be nice

[worthy dock]

https://lethal.wiki/#/publishing-your-mod

[dire falcon]

package it like this

[noble swift]

Thanks, appreciate it

[past sable]

@dire falcon

[jaunty glade]

is there a way to order the suits in a specific order in my mod with my suits?

[opaque oak]

No no, you should def go through with that so we can have "more suits" for custom models too

[hot frigate]

@dire falcon V2 using original model so it's possible to copy the UVs

[opaque oak]

Also models can have more than one UV via the UVMaps

As for how you'd get code to interact with that, I haven't a clue

[hot frigate]

yeah, uhhh, me neither, but it very much sounds possible

i remember an accomplice doing it in Godot not too far back

[opaque oak]

I know game engines use it for like light bake maps, aswell as some fancy shaders for like overlaying detail on models and what not

[past sable]

would you mind sending me the model you have with the updated uvs as an fbx? I have been doing my own testing with the same model and my own UVs but am seeing a strange difference when imported into unity. I want to see if yours has the same difference or if I somehow messed my model up during the uv editing process

[hot frigate]

(for everybody else dont use this yet, it's gonna be released with information and a new tutorial)

[opal cairn]

@hot frigate @dire falcon maybe this can help you

uvs from the model mne posted

blender script used ```import bpy

def getUVS():
uvs = []
me = bpy.context.object.data
me.calc_loop_triangles()
uv_layer = me.uv_layers.active.data
for tri in me.loop_triangles:
for loop_index in (tri.loops):
uvs.append([uv_layer[loop_index].uv.x, uv_layer[loop_index].uv.x])
return uvs

print(getUVS())```

[uneven hornet]

@x753 so do you have any ideas how to implement this mod with... that one part of the new update?

[dire falcon]

I'm still playing the new update, I'll see soon

[undone wing]

does this work in the new update sorry

and is this client side or server

[dire falcon]

everyone needs the mod